Speaker 1: Third down and six right up the cut. That is
Speaker 1: Gibson and he is gone third of the ball game
Speaker 1: for the rookie Antonio Gibson. And that is a knockout
Speaker 1: blow here in Arlington, Texas. That was Antonio Gibson with
Speaker 1: the knockout blow in a ridiculous forty one to sixteen
Speaker 1: victory for the Washington football team, the first place Washington
Speaker 1: football team over the Dallas Cowboys. I'm Greg rose do
Speaker 1: I'm with Mark Sessler. This is like a surprise album
Speaker 1: drop um from a band no one really needed any
Speaker 1: extra music from. But who cares. We're on Thanksgiving. We're
Speaker 1: delivering it to you too, Mark, and we're gonna hit
Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson COVID news later in the show. But
Speaker 1: let's just start talking about this one. Um, Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you know a guy you've always loved. Spending Thanksgiving with him,
Speaker 1: I'm sure is a lot of fun for you. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't top it. So let's let's start
Speaker 1: right there. But um to Cowboys, because you know, we
Speaker 1: felt this uh hope around them. I think it's a
Speaker 1: group that they could be the team that emerged from
Speaker 1: this division and uh, you know showed some life down
Speaker 1: the stretch and I I personally just ignored Washington um
Speaker 1: the entire time, and they look like the better team.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminded me at the end of last
Speaker 1: week's game when I thought the Cowboys defense looked tired
Speaker 1: against Dalvin Cooking the Vikings down the stretch, and they
Speaker 1: looked tired again today and Gibson um set it off.
Speaker 1: But it felt like a doomed operation or one with
Speaker 1: lingering questions right out of the gate for Dallas. On
Speaker 1: that opening field goal drive. You lose Cam Urban at
Speaker 1: left tackle and look at let's Cam Urban is replaceable
Speaker 1: to some degree in life. But Zach Martin out at
Speaker 1: right tackle and he returned with crutches, um and you know,
Speaker 1: on the sidelines, So you know that just that changed
Speaker 1: I thought everything for Dallas to some degree. And you've
Speaker 1: got you know, Zeke Elliott, who they're not giving the
Speaker 1: ball too on fourth and one, which was a questionable
Speaker 1: fourth and one UM scenario to begin with, and I
Speaker 1: thought it impacted the entire offense. Dalton was under under
Speaker 1: pressure and I thought he threw the ball pretty well,
Speaker 1: but um, it just became too much for the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when those injuries happened, I kind of thought, well, Washington
Speaker 1: should win this game, and then I thought, even if
Speaker 1: they don't, Dallas isn't gonna get it done this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, that looked like Zack Martin is out for
Speaker 1: the year, and at some point it's just like it's
Speaker 1: too much. And you know, I picked the Washington to
Speaker 1: win this game. Not that my picks have been particularly
Speaker 1: good this year. It had been mediocre, but I do
Speaker 1: think this one was good. But they do look like
Speaker 1: the same team each week. I thought Alex Smith maybe
Speaker 1: had maybe his worst start of the year today and
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. And these two teams weren't that mismatch.
Speaker 1: But there's sort of like a toughness to them where
Speaker 1: they show up. They give you a hard effort every week.
Speaker 1: They almost never get blown out. They're always in these games.
Speaker 1: Their defense is better than average for sure. And I
Speaker 1: think your boy Scott Turner, who you to be with
Speaker 1: the Browns, used to be with a lot of teams North.
Speaker 1: Turner's son has done a good job. When you watch
Speaker 1: them week after week, like you see guys are open
Speaker 1: and you see young players like Antonio Gibson, that's a
Speaker 1: third round Pick who I've loved watching. He like has
Speaker 1: so much power, didn't even need it today. You just
Speaker 1: kind of saw the speed. And then Terry McLaurin like,
Speaker 1: you have some young players Monte Sweat who gets the interception,
Speaker 1: Chase Young has done his things, so it's like all right,
Speaker 1: like you're trying hard and you have some young players.
Speaker 1: That is about enough. In the NFC East these days,
Speaker 1: their schedules pretty tough moving forward. But I think them
Speaker 1: and the Giants are kind of the two teams to watch. Well,
Speaker 1: it's almost it's a nice surprise if it's the two
Speaker 1: teams we never would have that we counted out so
Speaker 1: thoroughly back in the summer. And on the on the
Speaker 1: Scott Turner front, you know, a keeps leave of course
Speaker 1: called him just young Turner. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: he knows what his first name is, but they really
Speaker 1: was with him on some teams. I think I think
Speaker 1: he just personally knew him. Yeah, but they logan Thomas
Speaker 1: the way was used that just showed like um an
Speaker 1: air of creativity by Washington. Uh. There was the one
Speaker 1: very odd play where Alex Smith um shifted out from center,
Speaker 1: had the ball and put it underneath like J. D. Mckinstics,
Speaker 1: but basically from behind, and they showed that um that
Speaker 1: a Ron Rivera team had run the same play with
Speaker 1: the Panthers back in two thousand eleven. So they really
Speaker 1: did a bag of tricks. And on the flip side,
Speaker 1: I thought that the bones fossil um fake punt was
Speaker 1: a huge turning point in this game, and they had
Speaker 1: to be gutsy your seasons on the line, but Washington UM,
Speaker 1: as Troy Hickman noted, was so well prepared for that,
Speaker 1: and I think that they just looked like a Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera type team when Ron Rivera type teams are looking good, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was forty one to sixteen. That felt
Speaker 1: very misleading despite the injuries. You know, it was entering
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter they I thought they would win this game.
Speaker 1: But then it gets crazy because really because Washington started
Speaker 1: three times inside the Dallas thirty five was two turnovers
Speaker 1: on downs. One was that fake punt, which is one
Speaker 1: of the worst fake punts we've scene. I mean, they tried,
Speaker 1: it didn't work the fourth and one you mentioned it's
Speaker 1: just been a tough it's been a tough season for
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. Right when the Cowboys pull you in, then
Speaker 1: they break your heart. That's what they usually that's what
Speaker 1: they usually do. And looking at their schedule, I don't
Speaker 1: see a lot of wins. Washington has only one more
Speaker 1: division game. That's there. That's their um I guess problem
Speaker 1: when you look at them moving ahead, they will not
Speaker 1: be favored likely in a game until maybe Week seventeen
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, which could be for the division, whereas
Speaker 1: the other three teams they get to play each other.
Speaker 1: But I'm done with the Cowboys. You're done. I'm done
Speaker 1: with that game too. We don't need to, we don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you if you enjoy Jr. Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones looking disappointed, If you enjoy like Tony Pollard looking
Speaker 1: like the better Cowboys running back for like the month,
Speaker 1: like for like a month straight at least I feel
Speaker 1: like he's better than Zeke, then you enjoyed this game.
Speaker 1: Let's let's move on to the late afternoon game or
Speaker 1: the early game. Look at Duke Johnson toss us at
Speaker 1: back and why don't put us four for the touchdown?
Speaker 1: Are your kidding? I mean, this is unbelievable. Just silencing
Speaker 1: the fans here, but this is outstanding. You know how
Speaker 1: many plays or run like this right now out in
Speaker 1: the backyards of America on Thanksgiving Day? Not as many
Speaker 1: as usual, Jim, unless you're with your family. Because because
Speaker 1: of COVID, I used to do a little Thanksgiving football
Speaker 1: with the with the friends. It was pretty much the
Speaker 1: only day of the year I would say I would
Speaker 1: play tackle football. Occasionally there was snow on the ground,
Speaker 1: the ground was often frozen, and I was easily the
Speaker 1: smallest um person among my friend groups. It wasn't always
Speaker 1: that much fun, but kind of fun. I mean we
Speaker 1: like I I had a neighborhood gang of kids that
Speaker 1: picked up tackle football very early. And there were these
Speaker 1: three brothers, the McCarthy brothers. And every day I get
Speaker 1: home from school, like I'd be home and get home
Speaker 1: at like two thirty. By two thirty five, they're on
Speaker 1: the phone. They're like, get up here, now we're playing.
Speaker 1: And they would bully you into They were delightful, but
Speaker 1: they would bully you into plane. So it was five
Speaker 1: days a week. Next might have been one of the
Speaker 1: only days that that I didn't have to get you know,
Speaker 1: pulled into that. But that drag that shows that you know,
Speaker 1: I'm someone that played the game. I have that, Um
Speaker 1: it was we were more of like a street hockey, basketball,
Speaker 1: uh and baseball kind of crew, and I guess we
Speaker 1: were just a bunch of whimps in the Western mass area.
Speaker 1: The Texans won this game, by the way, forty one
Speaker 1: to five. This is how you know Dan Handas isn't here,
Speaker 1: Like he wouldn't go this far into the recap without
Speaker 1: even getting to the game. But let's be honest, these
Speaker 1: were two teams that aren't going anywhere. They're both four
Speaker 1: and seven now on the year. I'm glad the Texans
Speaker 1: won this game because I feel like they've been a
Speaker 1: better team than the record showed all year. I don't
Speaker 1: even think this is one of the Shawn Watson's like
Speaker 1: better half of the games he's played this year, and
Speaker 1: yet he ends up with four touchdowns three eighteen yards.
Speaker 1: That's how bad the Lions defenses, and that's how good
Speaker 1: their passing attack is, even even without um some injured
Speaker 1: wide receivers like they they are tough to stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't have Rendal Cobb or Kenny Stills, but I
Speaker 1: mean got healthy Brandon Cooks and a healthy Will Fuller
Speaker 1: or the pair I'd much rather have and I mean
Speaker 1: will Fuller they must have. I mean, obviously they dug
Speaker 1: deep into the Lions Panthers tape from a week ago
Speaker 1: and d J. Moore embarrassed that secondary too. And you know,
Speaker 1: Jeff Okudo was fried last week. He wasn't on the
Speaker 1: field this time around their first round pick, but catches
Speaker 1: for Fuller of forty thirty eight thirty seven yards, Cooks
Speaker 1: had a twenty seven yard or Duke Johnson had a
Speaker 1: thirty three yard catching run. So big plays in wide
Speaker 1: open spaces against the Detroit's defense that this was meant
Speaker 1: to be Matt Patricia's staple um, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: interesting because Deshan said, like this is basically it is.
Speaker 1: It is very Patriots esque and what he did to
Speaker 1: the Patriots last week and what he did to the
Speaker 1: Lions today, um lowers the que rating on the Patriots
Speaker 1: experience on defensive And Matt Patricia faced some tough questions
Speaker 1: after obviously and kind of refused to go there about
Speaker 1: his future. But right, I mean, it just seems like
Speaker 1: this when these things to happen on national television, that
Speaker 1: engine gets cranked up a little bit. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna hide every Lions team at one o'clock
Speaker 1: Eastern on Sundays. This was We all witnessed this car crash.
Speaker 1: This was. This was very similar to the first game,
Speaker 1: now that I think about it. That trick play kind
Speaker 1: of ended it with you know, a little chicanery gets
Speaker 1: it done. It felt closer than than it really was.
Speaker 1: Towards the end. It had the JJ Watt pick six,
Speaker 1: just like Mantes sweat where he jumped up and caught it.
Speaker 1: I thought that was nice. Like J. J. Watson on
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving twice in his life and he's done something memorable twice.
Speaker 1: He had like a monster game against Detroit eight years ago,
Speaker 1: which he talked about. And I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: this is it for Matt Patricia Um whether maybe even
Speaker 1: by the time we tape on Sunday, we'll be doing
Speaker 1: our big preview show tomorrow Friday, in like twelve hours.
Speaker 1: You ready for that? Mark? I mean, I my, I'm
Speaker 1: contractually obligated to be ready for it, but I kept
Speaker 1: a lit on it today, so we're having fun. Um.
Speaker 1: They fired Steven mary Uchi. I I saw um after
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving loss with almost an identical record in his
Speaker 1: tenure to Matt Patricia. There's a new ford running the
Speaker 1: team that's taken over that she hasn't really talked too much. Um,
Speaker 1: but this feels like maybe it's time. And if it's
Speaker 1: not this week, UM, it'll be later in this season
Speaker 1: or immediately after the season. They have no juice, they
Speaker 1: have no luck either. It's like a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: They didn't have Goladay or or Swift. And I am
Speaker 1: convinced before we move on from this game that Romeo
Speaker 1: Cornell is going to be their head coach next year
Speaker 1: because of um our boy Jack Easterby, who you and
Speaker 1: I have both really embraced. I believe that the way
Speaker 1: for him to keep power is to not shake up
Speaker 1: things too much. He knows Romeo like it's all Patriots.
Speaker 1: It's like, give us like one more in between year
Speaker 1: you keep Romeo. The second I saw Ian Rapp report
Speaker 1: reports something about how they're worried they might not be
Speaker 1: able to fly in people for coaching interviews because of COVID,
Speaker 1: I'm like that you're using that as as excuse. You
Speaker 1: got fifteen people in the stands, you can't do a
Speaker 1: coaching interview. It's gotta be Romeo care now because they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep winning some games. They they're not all easy games.
Speaker 1: But Romo was trying to sell us on that the
Speaker 1: Texans aren't totally dead, and I thought, you all for
Speaker 1: one more week. He's right, just because they have so
Speaker 1: many Division games left they have They have two Colts
Speaker 1: games and the Titans, and in theory, if you swept
Speaker 1: those three games, you could be in so next week
Speaker 1: if you you know, you can at least get ready
Speaker 1: for that Colts game and think you're kind of alive.
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of like the classic Berserker team
Speaker 1: that we discussed though that like record or not. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not making the playoffs and they're changes ahead. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to deal with the Texans at all, and
Speaker 1: they are. They are cooking on offense. You're so right
Speaker 1: about Cornell because it's just about you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want a strong voice that comes in and in the
Speaker 1: first move is Jack Easterby is UM sent on an
Speaker 1: airplane to the Caribbean. Uh No, he wants to stick
Speaker 1: around Um and he he wants to be the strongest voice.
Speaker 1: So you hire the weakest coach. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that's krannell Um along with right, that's no one
Speaker 1: that can like take him in a in a power
Speaker 1: move lad. And to Romeo's credit, they are four and
Speaker 1: one with him, and so they have they have won
Speaker 1: games with him. It's partly because the schedule got easier
Speaker 1: and they were just super unlucky with that early in
Speaker 1: the year. I would want to do this. He's the
Speaker 1: like he was having fun. According to Tony Romo, he
Speaker 1: was like having a blast that he was getting to
Speaker 1: do this one more time. But maybe that's only thinking
Speaker 1: that it might be ending soon. All right, this podcast
Speaker 1: would be ending soon if we didn't get like a
Speaker 1: huge news bomb dropped right before we taped. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: has COVID nineteen and um that would indicate he's not
Speaker 1: gonna play on Sunday against the Steelers. You know, since
Speaker 1: we last recorded a podcast, that game was postponed. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if you guys are listening to this show, you you
Speaker 1: know that until Sunday at one with Mike to Rico
Speaker 1: on the call on like a one o'clock game, that's wild. Uh.
Speaker 1: And now it's gonna be Lamar Jackson on the bench
Speaker 1: and Robert Griffin the third starting that game against the
Speaker 1: Steelers if they play the game, which I don't think
Speaker 1: we can totally assume at this point. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't. I really wonder what the league office, um,
Speaker 1: how they measure each of this, because there's a you know,
Speaker 1: a slew of teams impacted. Um, it feels like the
Speaker 1: Corona announcements are coming every three to four minutes at
Speaker 1: this point. And you have mark Ingram out, you have
Speaker 1: Dobbins out. They accounted for like a hundred and like
Speaker 1: I think twenty of other hundred and twenty nine rushing
Speaker 1: yards a week ago. You've got Gus Edwards, but you
Speaker 1: take Lamar out and like a r G three is
Speaker 1: um over Ye I get that large three is sort
Speaker 1: of like the in theory you could run a similar
Speaker 1: type offense, But every time RG three has come on
Speaker 1: the field, that offense looks broken to me. No, we
Speaker 1: don't need to do like a whole new like preview.
Speaker 1: We actually will on our TV show, which um, if
Speaker 1: you guys want to check out, will be on Saturday
Speaker 1: morning on NFL Network and so um we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the new match of then. But it's crazy. I I
Speaker 1: tend to think the NFL, uh is gonna do everything
Speaker 1: they possibly can to play the game. UM. But Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter literally one minute ago as we're taping this, said
Speaker 1: that four more Ravens players. I assume that Lamar was
Speaker 1: one of those players, and another staff member tested positive,
Speaker 1: so they've got I would say, you know, the most
Speaker 1: serious outbreak since that Titans one, uh, you know, five
Speaker 1: six weeks ago, maybe the most serious the entire season.
Speaker 1: They have officially suspended UM, the strength and conditioning coach,
Speaker 1: which reportedly UM was not following protocols in terms of
Speaker 1: mask wearing and and being in close contact and other things.
Speaker 1: They didn't announce it as a suspension. They just said discipline,
Speaker 1: but other reporters have said it is a suspension. So
Speaker 1: that is a mess, and it's too bad this Thanksgiving. UM,
Speaker 1: these games which I still enjoyed watching because Walker loves
Speaker 1: like he loves watching a game with me, and it's
Speaker 1: rare that I'd be so distracted. So I still had
Speaker 1: fun today. And we got to tape this three hours
Speaker 1: earlier and get it out to our listeners three hours earlier,
Speaker 1: so you know, that UK crew they can get it
Speaker 1: right now. But before we go, Mark like I was
Speaker 1: happy to watch the games with with the walker to
Speaker 1: go out, Jim nance on you. Let's let's end on
Speaker 1: a positive that we can't go covid. Uh, let's get
Speaker 1: Let's do the traditional the thing my mom made me do.
Speaker 1: Letus do we really had to do this and say
Speaker 1: one thing we're thankful for this Thanksgiving one thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I'll say I'll do two quick
Speaker 1: things because I think, like, um, you know, it's been
Speaker 1: we've we've felt it with every episode it's been the
Speaker 1: obviously everyone knows it's been the weirdest year of all time. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of stress behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Um for everyone who has families, or if you don't
Speaker 1: have family and you're just not able to live a
Speaker 1: normal life. I'm just thankful for the moments that our
Speaker 1: family has been able to kind of band together and
Speaker 1: have a laugh. Um. It's not I don't think that
Speaker 1: I would pick our family structure as the group that
Speaker 1: should be spending seven time together all the time. But
Speaker 1: I mean, just based on you know, seven months of experimentation,
Speaker 1: I would suggest it's maybe not the way to go.
Speaker 1: But I'm really proud of my kids for hanging in there. UM,
Speaker 1: and my wife and I think for to do this show,
Speaker 1: and a couple of times that you hear from our
Speaker 1: listeners that say, like, you know, life is so up
Speaker 1: and down, but thank you for still um caring about
Speaker 1: this and and creating a diversion at a time would
Speaker 1: be easy to bail on a diversion that I am
Speaker 1: thankful for the type of listeners that our show has
Speaker 1: versus if we worked on some other random show. I
Speaker 1: it's UM, there are a special crew and so they've
Speaker 1: actually helped a lot to hear what they have to say,
Speaker 1: and so that is UM. I say that ironically that
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I mean, yeah, that's that's very well said.
Speaker 1: I won't I don't even need to repeat it because
Speaker 1: it's all UM so true. Like and especially if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this show Thanksgiving, whenever you're listening to, whether
Speaker 1: it's Friday, Saturday or whatever, you're you're the die hard.
Speaker 1: We're putting this show out for you, and we love
Speaker 1: being regular UM, and we appreciate it. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for the service industry workers. I know that
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm like pandering, but I went to pick
Speaker 1: up my um turkey and not turkey. Actually we we
Speaker 1: ordered some brisket today and Amica is cooking at turkey
Speaker 1: separately brisket in a bunch of sides, like she cooks
Speaker 1: some up. We also pick up some stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: take a little bit of the loadops, since I'm obviously
Speaker 1: not helping, that's the way to go. And it was
Speaker 1: like this huge operation at this nearby place that's great,
Speaker 1: and like there's all these crazy lines and there's these
Speaker 1: jerk wads that are like complaining about their having to
Speaker 1: wait in the line that we pre ordered from while
Speaker 1: there's literally like five people in the parking lot and
Speaker 1: it's like extremely well running. They have twenty people working
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving passing all this stuff out, and all I'm
Speaker 1: thinking is like, you can't tip these people enough. And
Speaker 1: there's these jerks who are like complaining, saying, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cancel my ord because they're like waiting twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: And you just see this attitude in the in waiters
Speaker 1: and everyone working in the restaurants who are keeping us
Speaker 1: fed and everything. That's the last thing they deserve. They
Speaker 1: deserve our thanks, just like the medical people and everyone
Speaker 1: else that's forced to like be out in the world
Speaker 1: and working for us there. So shout out to the
Speaker 1: restaurant industry everyone else. Ricky, let's bring you in here.
Speaker 1: Are you still there? Yes, on your dick before we go.
Speaker 1: Why don't you give us a comfortable environment. You're in there,
Speaker 1: and you're thankful for it too. Yeah, I'm thankful for
Speaker 1: my dog Thor it's his birthday today and my family.
Speaker 1: I wish I could be with them. Yeah, that's too bad.
Speaker 1: We're sorry. I'm sorry. That's true. But you know you're
Speaker 1: with you, with your girl, and you're with us, Erica,
Speaker 1: you can never leave us. I can't wait. There was
Speaker 1: one thing you did not answer though, Erica. Um, like
Speaker 1: dog years. I don't are those Is that a real Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's six in human years, but dog years, I think
Speaker 1: it's seven years per year, so he's like kind of
Speaker 1: getting old. He's forty too, He's he's somewhere between me
Speaker 1: and Mark in years. Why did they have a sin
Speaker 1: for because I think their body like progresses faster. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just a weird human thing to do because we
Speaker 1: we feel bad that they die quickly. So for some
Speaker 1: reason we have to like make an adjustment. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really make it comforts us, and and it's just sort
Speaker 1: of sad they live. You know. It is one of
Speaker 1: the bummers about having a dog. I had a dog.
Speaker 1: I love dogs and cats, but you know, they die
Speaker 1: pretty quick. I kind of wish like a dog's literally
Speaker 1: five hundred for five hundred years where they seen like,
Speaker 1: oh that's this was George Washington's dog at one point.
Speaker 1: Now it is our dog. That that's one of the
Speaker 1: pluses we have a turtle. Shout out to seaweed um
Speaker 1: our pet. Uh. You know they live awhile in the oven.
Speaker 1: I don't care about She was like, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to think thor. I just thought would be the
Speaker 1: quickest thing I can do to get out of here. Alright.
Speaker 1: Turtle when I was five, but he ran away, so
Speaker 1: that I got turtle. I've got seaweed right now. You know.
Speaker 1: Underrated animals. Turtles, they they last, they've been around. They're smart.
Speaker 1: Good move naming an animal after a plant. It wasn't
Speaker 1: my naming. Um. That's it for us. We will be
Speaker 1: back with our preview show though on Friday. It will
Speaker 1: be up um mid afternoon East Coast or early afternoon
Speaker 1: West Coast. We're taking it as early as we can
Speaker 1: and we'll get it out to you. Thank you all
Speaker 1: for listening to this little surprise drop until Friday. See
Speaker 1: yeah m