Speaker 1: It was popping. This is your boy named bur liston
Speaker 1: I'm real Mike Rob and this is the R and
Speaker 1: B Podcast. And that was good man. I know you
Speaker 1: heard it together with your voice, which I was good.
Speaker 1: I sound like Oscar to grouch a little bit cook
Speaker 1: your monster TV dropped that beat man. Yeah, oh no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I had a long day, not really trying to
Speaker 1: go hi by my lady. I dress stop for man
Speaker 1: on the town town and now ain't going down. See now, baby,
Speaker 1: I got some stats for you and also real players,
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Speaker 1: on man, we got an old song, bro, and it
Speaker 1: never gets old, It never gets old. Eight Nate, welcome
Speaker 1: back your second What was this your second week or us?
Speaker 1: Your first week back? First week in studio? Man? Sorry, man,
Speaker 1: I know your voice a little messed up. I gotta
Speaker 1: get a surgery on my voice. Oh man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pray for you. Dog. You're all good is an outpatient.
Speaker 1: It's it's a day in, day out. I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got noduls on my vocal cords, so they got
Speaker 1: a scrape the nodules off my vocal cords. That sounds gross. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's over usage. Over usage. I mean, I've been
Speaker 1: working here. I've been I've been doing what I do
Speaker 1: in the podcast TV and I record the song. I
Speaker 1: see you recorded a song, dog, I mean it was
Speaker 1: I mean it was dope. But where where was? Why?
Speaker 1: How come I didn't know that a video was being shot?
Speaker 1: They let me? Let me help you out here. Let
Speaker 1: me know. I'm just saying, because Mike is we gotta
Speaker 1: do it right with it. What it's you on there.
Speaker 1: We can't just put you in there in the cameo.
Speaker 1: It's got to be set up. So this was like
Speaker 1: my name is and right, and the next single was
Speaker 1: gonna be like the Guilty Conscience. Yeah, t D Man,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're buttering me up. That's messed up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Dog, I mean, hey, may you get
Speaker 1: the start in and then we're bringing the big guns. Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Guilty Conscience. You needed to hype man's
Speaker 1: why your voice is gone. You had to hype yourself
Speaker 1: up and wrap andrew the ad libs all of that.
Speaker 1: That's my point. That's That's what I'm here for you, right, Mike.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna do it, all right, dog. I hey,
Speaker 1: look man, I'm here. You just let me know. You
Speaker 1: just let me know. Man, This is the R and
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Speaker 1: T D tell the people what they need to do. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: what you guys people need to do is check out
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Speaker 1: up on today's show, we got Shanika Dabney Henderson s
Speaker 1: D eight, NFL Network super Superior Producer. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking some draft moments and hard knocks. J J. Watt.
Speaker 1: Of course, Nates We've already talked about your new song, man,
Speaker 1: and look you left me out. Man, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: upset about that for a while. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna let you let you just get up out
Speaker 1: of here without that understandable. It's the R and B.
Speaker 1: So we we we're gonna we're gonna work it out, Mike,
Speaker 1: I got you. We gotta have that, man, we gotta
Speaker 1: have a TV. Do we get a beat before we
Speaker 1: go into the draft segment? Man? Oh, no rapping, No
Speaker 1: rapping voice protective voice protectives are beat though. Probably could
Speaker 1: rip it off. This could I could you could rip
Speaker 1: it off? Bro? Oh oh oh, so like doing the
Speaker 1: matrix like bending way back? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Watch what it does right here? Yeah. Uh, it's got
Speaker 1: to a days about rapt I know right, Nate, we
Speaker 1: can't have you wrap it down. He look, man, the
Speaker 1: draft is eleven days away. Uh tell us, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to the people. Man, how was the draft like
Speaker 1: at this moment? Draft? What was the process like right now?
Speaker 1: For those young cats? Man, it's uh, it's nerve racking. Mike.
Speaker 1: You remember, um, the first time I realized that I
Speaker 1: had a chance to be drafted was my junior year.
Speaker 1: I came out early, and I remember my agent saying,
Speaker 1: your life is about to change. And I'm thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean are you come out early? Bro?
Speaker 1: You came out early? Well? I led the nation my
Speaker 1: tune year, and I knew that I had to take
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity to make as much money as
Speaker 1: I can. And being in the White Conference at Nevadarino,
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, is it possible for me
Speaker 1: to get one hundred and thirty eight catches in one season? Again? No,
Speaker 1: At that time, it was second all time in the
Speaker 1: n C Double A. So my agent is like, look,
Speaker 1: you come out. You're a late first rounder, second rounder
Speaker 1: at the latest, third, and you'll be able to set
Speaker 1: up your family for a long time. Not only will
Speaker 1: you be able to set up your family, but you
Speaker 1: have a chance of really having a long career. And
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: There's no other reason why I would stay. So I
Speaker 1: went out and I declared for the draft, and there's
Speaker 1: all these teams saying, hey, well, you're one of the
Speaker 1: best receivers in this class. We're not sure about the
Speaker 1: competition level at Nevada. But what we do know is
Speaker 1: that you are a legitimate wide receiver and your versatile
Speaker 1: and some teams, I remember San Francisco in particular, said
Speaker 1: they were gonna give me in the first round. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking first round. Uh so when you so, look, when
Speaker 1: you thought about first round? Did you? Did you what
Speaker 1: you're thinking? Bl blink you already know. I was thinking
Speaker 1: to myself like, this was before that rookie cap and
Speaker 1: all that stuff kicking. So first round, if you got
Speaker 1: drave in the first round, you're making money. So for me,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all right, if I get drafted in the
Speaker 1: first round, I'm gonna be on some buy a mansion,
Speaker 1: a fancy car or Rolex. I'm young. I didn't come
Speaker 1: from a ton of money. You know. My mom and
Speaker 1: dad worked two jobs and over time was a necessity.
Speaker 1: So for me, like my concept of having new money
Speaker 1: was buying new things. Obviously at thirty four, I think
Speaker 1: differently now, But I was twenty one, like new one
Speaker 1: when I got drafted. So um, I was sitting at
Speaker 1: home first round went by, I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't expect to go so I wasn't that mad. The
Speaker 1: second round went by. I wasn't upset about second round
Speaker 1: going by, was more upset that other receivers that I
Speaker 1: felt like I was better than when now there's guys
Speaker 1: that went before me that were legitimately better than me,
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson and Boding Monsters phenomenal careers. And then third
Speaker 1: round came by. I was sleep like upset, sleep likes off.
Speaker 1: I want to watch this. So I laid down my
Speaker 1: phone rang I think I got a flip on cell
Speaker 1: phone at a fliph on cell phone and uh, They're like, hello,
Speaker 1: it's this nip bro. So I'm like, yeah, um my
Speaker 1: mom and dad are They're looking at me like what's
Speaker 1: going on? Who's that? What's that? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you doing. This is Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Vikings. Are you ready to be a Viking?
Speaker 1: And I said, uh, yeah, yeah I am. He said, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't sound so excited, young man. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I just took a nap. He said he took a nap,
Speaker 1: turning felt draft and I was like, yeah, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: about that. He's like, well, let's it's time for you
Speaker 1: to wake up. You want to be a Viking and
Speaker 1: I was like cool. At that moment, that's when everything changed.
Speaker 1: What's up with your story, dude? So you know me, man,
Speaker 1: I people didn't know what position I was gonna play.
Speaker 1: Running back, quarterback, defensive back. I mean I backpedal for
Speaker 1: teams everything. Um, I knew I was gonna be a
Speaker 1: role player or whatever. All I asked is that they
Speaker 1: watched me throw the ball. So at my pro at
Speaker 1: my pro day, man, I threw the ball. I ran routes,
Speaker 1: I did running back stuff, I did receiver stuff. I
Speaker 1: backpedal for some people, I didn't. I did the entire
Speaker 1: nine man. So you know, for me leading up to
Speaker 1: the draft, not only did I not only was their
Speaker 1: anxiety about where I was gonna play, like whether with
Speaker 1: state I was gonna play in, but it was also
Speaker 1: anxiety about what position I was gonna play Because people
Speaker 1: don't understand man Cepenn State, Man, great university. You know,
Speaker 1: love all my experiences there. Um, I never practiced at
Speaker 1: another position other than quarter back. And I practiced a
Speaker 1: little bit at whide receiver my junior year when I
Speaker 1: left the team and receiving, but I've always practiced that
Speaker 1: quarterback And just the Thursday or Friday before the game,
Speaker 1: they said, you're playing this other position. You're playing running back.
Speaker 1: And I had to go adjust. Or you're gonna slop,
Speaker 1: you're gonna start the slot receiver. Or you're gonna return kicks. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna return punts. I mean all of that, man.
Speaker 1: And Uh, it was tough because I just didn't know.
Speaker 1: It was the unknown. I had went to the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: had the forty niners. Um they called coach Uh. I
Speaker 1: played against that their coaching staff. Their coaching staff had
Speaker 1: no idea they wanted me. Um. And I remember I
Speaker 1: had a little get together at a hotel in State
Speaker 1: College because that's why I was training, and all my
Speaker 1: people from Richmond came up. You know. That's when the
Speaker 1: first three rounds was on the first day, you know.
Speaker 1: And I didn't get drafted at all. Oh dude, I
Speaker 1: had just bought a car. Just drove the car off
Speaker 1: off the showroom floor, Nate. It was two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: Um uh Tahoe Chevy Tahoe. Yeah. Man. At the time,
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing my think brand new. It
Speaker 1: was two thousand and six, it was still brand new, right,
Speaker 1: Just drove it off, right, and I'm thinking, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to pay for this truck. I had
Speaker 1: no clue. I had no nowherewithal no, you know, nothing
Speaker 1: understanding of the other rounds and finances and all that.
Speaker 1: I just saw it. Hey, yo, I didn't go. I
Speaker 1: didn't get draft to have all these people show up.
Speaker 1: I didn't get drafted on that Saturday night, man, I
Speaker 1: cried bro. I mean, dude, it heard because I could have.
Speaker 1: You know, I took a couple of visits um to
Speaker 1: a couple of teams in Miami, Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh had
Speaker 1: traded their second round pick for two threes, and I
Speaker 1: just thought for sure I was one of those third rounders.
Speaker 1: And the next morning I'll sleep, I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna even wake up for the draft,
Speaker 1: and and it woke. You know, the draft was early
Speaker 1: the next day. I'm pissed. I had twenty three miss
Speaker 1: calls from a four or eight number. I'm like with it.
Speaker 1: I had still I hadn't even turned on the television yet.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on. Something like, man,
Speaker 1: whatever it calls again, I pick up. It's Mike Nolan.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Scott mcclaud those guys. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick you pretty earlier today. I said whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: Wait wait, you said whatever. If you was gonna pick
Speaker 1: me while you give me yesterday, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I had all these people show up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know, but again, I still had
Speaker 1: no clue that I mean a fourth rounder, Bro, that's
Speaker 1: a that's good money. That's good money. That's it's a
Speaker 1: good bit and it's a good pick. Right. So they
Speaker 1: just said he said, I remember Scott laughing, Scott mclau laughing. Hey, Mike, Mike,
Speaker 1: look just turn on your television. Man, I'm gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna get off the phone with you. Just turn on
Speaker 1: your television. Because you know they had they had at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Man, we had eight dinner together, we
Speaker 1: had hung out. I mean, they knew exactly who I was.
Speaker 1: They knew I was a no nonsense type of guy.
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna tell him exactly what was
Speaker 1: on my mind. And so I hung up, you know,
Speaker 1: by a peace, took a shower. I look out, I
Speaker 1: heard it. I think it was I forget who it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't a commissioner. It wasn't Paul Tackling,
Speaker 1: but at the time it was like the assistant commissioner
Speaker 1: or whatever that they did the second day and they
Speaker 1: called my name, and I'm like, oh, with a hundred
Speaker 1: pick I'm like Mike rob Oh. And then the first
Speaker 1: thing I did was I called my agent. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. And for my far listeners out there, this
Speaker 1: lets you know, like kind of the background and some
Speaker 1: of the guys that come into the league where we
Speaker 1: come from. Right. I had no idea of my finances
Speaker 1: or money. The first thing I did was called my agent, Like,
Speaker 1: what's that signing bonus? Gonna look black? Hey, seriously, I
Speaker 1: needed to know the difference between third round, in fourth
Speaker 1: round and fifth round? Was it my signing bonus? I
Speaker 1: think my signing bonus? Uh was like for yeah, four
Speaker 1: and some change like forty five. And I was rolling.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was rolling in money, man, And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, they just gave me after hold up,
Speaker 1: but after taxes you didn't take on no obviously, ast
Speaker 1: how are you doing? We we just got joined, but
Speaker 1: we just got joined. Oh say yo, we get a
Speaker 1: woman's opinion on some of these topics. Damn Henderson is
Speaker 1: in the building. But but but checked this out, man, seriously,
Speaker 1: no concept of finances And look, I'm I'm gonna digress
Speaker 1: a second man. Okay, I went to my Penn State
Speaker 1: this past weekend. I through an event. Um I've introduced
Speaker 1: my foundation to state college, our signature program where where
Speaker 1: we basically created a fantasy football learning platform for high
Speaker 1: schoolers the middle schoolers. But anyway, I came back and
Speaker 1: it was our two thousand five. They did a little
Speaker 1: reunion and did a little something was coming back, right,
Speaker 1: they announced us during the spring, the spring football game
Speaker 1: and all of those things. And Bro, first of all,
Speaker 1: I've seen guys that I hadn't seen in over ten years. Okay,
Speaker 1: but one thing I left there thinking about one thing
Speaker 1: that was on my mind heavily. Bro as I as
Speaker 1: I adapted and Bro hugged all my guys. Right, that
Speaker 1: was a quarterback, that was you know, it was my team.
Speaker 1: I felt I felt personally responsible for those guys. Right,
Speaker 1: every person was doing well, making money, succeeding in life,
Speaker 1: CEOs or or or or part of the part of
Speaker 1: the financial sector. Um UM teachers, UH, football coaches, all
Speaker 1: influence and the impacting young people. Right, And as I think,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I hope all the football players
Speaker 1: that listened to us are listed R and B podcasts.
Speaker 1: You have to play this game for more than just finances,
Speaker 1: because that's what made me think about it. You have
Speaker 1: to play this game. You have to go for a
Speaker 1: deeper impact though. And I think about coach paternal or
Speaker 1: my my, my head coach in college, and he had
Speaker 1: a grand experiment right there. We're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: play football, right, and in school is gonna mean something.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get degrees, right, and you're gonna be impactful
Speaker 1: in society. And I'm just it's crazy. I come back
Speaker 1: ten years later and you see everybody, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: We want to Orange both finished third in the country, boom,
Speaker 1: top of you know, guys got drafted all of that. Right,
Speaker 1: you come back ten years later and everybody I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: everybody is doing well off. That's awesome. That's awesome. So
Speaker 1: my bad, my bad, my bad. Shneika, how are you
Speaker 1: what's going on? Tired? You're tired? I mean I'm tired.
Speaker 1: You're tired. I feel like I just I feel like walking.
Speaker 1: Just walking with this baby makes me feel like I
Speaker 1: played a super Bowl every every so look, just just
Speaker 1: so you know, I took a biologist sex class and
Speaker 1: college school me okay, and I had to wear a
Speaker 1: pregnancy suit around campus for a day. I felt, I
Speaker 1: feel you feel I feel you, Nate. I'm telling you, bros,
Speaker 1: how many months were you I was not? I was in.
Speaker 1: I was in my last time. Yes, I was there.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't bend over the top of my shoes,
Speaker 1: none of that. I had to get coaches to help
Speaker 1: me all of that. Bro, it was bad. I had
Speaker 1: Ashley needs the other day. I ain't even know. I know,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. Walk around, got to my destination,
Speaker 1: put my feet up, and I was like, now, somebody
Speaker 1: could have told me something something because they know I
Speaker 1: can't see. Well, look, man, let me get you all thoughts. So, um,
Speaker 1: we're in l a Okay. They put off a huge
Speaker 1: trade last week, huge straight all right, um put coming
Speaker 1: up to the number one pick. They're also going to
Speaker 1: be on Hard Knocks this season. I have my own
Speaker 1: views about Hard Knocks because you know, I like Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks honestly, right, I love it. I feel as a fan,
Speaker 1: you love it, right, But I don't know, Nate, if
Speaker 1: you were a player trying to make the team, would
Speaker 1: you want all your business? I don't care like that.
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, because when you get there, I've gotten
Speaker 1: a call. Hey may bring. But if if you're established,
Speaker 1: if you're established player, it doesn't matter. Your brand becomes
Speaker 1: bigger's if you're an established player. But come on, man,
Speaker 1: how many of these guys on these teams out of
Speaker 1: fifty three guys are established players? Yeah, all of a
Speaker 1: lot of guys are interchangeable. Now, see I look at
Speaker 1: it like this, man, I look at it like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm making in trouble for saying that. But I
Speaker 1: don't care. And she gotta get your opinion on this. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm jumping all over the place. I feel like since
Speaker 1: guys are making more money, right, guys are making more money.
Speaker 1: You see guys like Megatron, see guys like Marshawn. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got fifty something million. I was in the bank.
Speaker 1: Why would I keep on banging myself up? Right? So
Speaker 1: I feel like you're gonna see guys exit in that way.
Speaker 1: But then you look at the bottom of the league, right,
Speaker 1: the guys who are in the league four and five
Speaker 1: years right when they try to get that second contract.
Speaker 1: It's easy. It's more it's economically better for a team
Speaker 1: to just draft another rookie. So where did those guys come?
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. And I know we got
Speaker 1: we jumped back and forth from l A or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Most of the team are guys
Speaker 1: that are interchangeable. I don't know if hard knocks would
Speaker 1: be great for those guys or would it be a distraction.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just that's just me. I would
Speaker 1: think though, and I don't know. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: a player, but I would think that there has to
Speaker 1: be an attraction to the celebrity of it. It's show business,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's the part of being an athlete now,
Speaker 1: is the show business side of it. Now. I don't
Speaker 1: think i'd want to be the dude who's like getting
Speaker 1: cut on TV and crying. But but if you bring
Speaker 1: it and you say you want to have a part
Speaker 1: in it, that goes along with everything. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Come on what you think listen. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: When I was in Detroit, UM, we were on the
Speaker 1: list to have hard knocks in Detroit, and UH coach
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, our head coach, denied it. He said, nah,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to focus on winning. We uh,
Speaker 1: we got a young team and we have other things
Speaker 1: that are more important as a vet on the team.
Speaker 1: I was disappointed. I was building my brand. I just
Speaker 1: started my clothing line. I thought to myself, I'm about
Speaker 1: to take advantage of this opportunity to make my name,
Speaker 1: my brand, my post career um even bigger than what
Speaker 1: it already is. But then I talked to other guys
Speaker 1: like Matt Stafford, Calvin Johnson. They said, no, we don't
Speaker 1: want it. I didn't, I don't want it. Calvin doesn't
Speaker 1: like attention. Matt Stafford is a guy that just wants
Speaker 1: to play ball. So I think it was a mixed
Speaker 1: bag of individuals that I love the idea, and other
Speaker 1: guys said, no, we don't want to be on blast
Speaker 1: like that. We don't. We're already magnified when you have
Speaker 1: hard knocks in your building, cameras everywhere and not just
Speaker 1: at the facility. The main stars like Calvin and Sue
Speaker 1: and and Stafford, they got cameras in their cars. So UM,
Speaker 1: I understand the mindset. But for me to your point, Mike,
Speaker 1: if guys are contemplating leaving this game early and take
Speaker 1: advantage of the dollars, then they want to have that that,
Speaker 1: you know, shine on them. So if you retire seven
Speaker 1: eight years into it, which is you know, not necessarily
Speaker 1: a long career, but some would say you retire early
Speaker 1: if you're still capable playing, then this could build your brand.
Speaker 1: Like how many how many players are you more familiar
Speaker 1: with because of Hard Knocks? That's a lot. Aren't guys
Speaker 1: doing their own reality now anyway? There snapchatting there, put
Speaker 1: they make on Twitter. You don't have to be on
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks at this point to have your own reality show. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you bring up you bring up snap I know
Speaker 1: you guys heard of J J. Wat. You remember J J.
Speaker 1: Watt doing this his social media stuff he posted during
Speaker 1: his you know, a video of his workout dunk Kobe's
Speaker 1: last game? Right? Uh? You think JJ doing too much? Man?
Speaker 1: I mean you think you're doing too much. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. What happened? Let me go you in
Speaker 1: right here? So doing Kobe's final game where you're dropping sixty,
Speaker 1: Everyone's watching j J. Watt goes on Snap and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to watch Kobe. I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: like Kobe. So it's like dj J, come on, we
Speaker 1: know you're working hard. And then just yesterday with the
Speaker 1: you know, the weather situation in Houston, he posted, you know,
Speaker 1: a snap of him being at the facility working out,
Speaker 1: and like, j J, we get it, bro, you're a
Speaker 1: hard worker. I mean didn't even look at him on
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks last year though. I mean, you don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. I know you work hard. I know you're
Speaker 1: doing everything, but it's it was dramatic. I'm like, zoo, snap,
Speaker 1: you know I'm this guy. I mean it was like
Speaker 1: rocking the freezer. I didn't see. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he posted a snap. You know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of saying, hey, well I'm not watching. That's kind
Speaker 1: of alright, j J. Relax, everybody get yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, from a woman's standpoint, how how do you
Speaker 1: view J J Watt? Listen. I think it's like that
Speaker 1: friend who we all have that I have, who's like
Speaker 1: at the gym or running or whatever, and on Facebook
Speaker 1: or whatever, you gotta see a picture every five minutes
Speaker 1: of the gym, Saltie, like, that's what I feel about. Look,
Speaker 1: I get you. Your body is banging, it's tighter, are
Speaker 1: doing it boo? But I know too much. You know
Speaker 1: more than I need to I ever needed to know.
Speaker 1: We get it, yeah, man, And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I know. I think JJ is probably the most dominant,
Speaker 1: dominant guy, dominant defensive player in this league. But does
Speaker 1: he really have to have his persona grow anymore? I mean,
Speaker 1: does he have to? Does he have to be the
Speaker 1: one promoted because it's already there. Your thing is over promotion.
Speaker 1: Though you're right, he's not gonna lose from it. He
Speaker 1: can't lose from it, and it isn't necessarily like negative, right, right,
Speaker 1: he's doing it in a way. But when you heard
Speaker 1: when you nate, you just heard that he posted a
Speaker 1: snap during the Kobe's last game, we already know how
Speaker 1: Kobe is seen amongst athletes. Right, your first reaction was,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's a different era now. I mean,
Speaker 1: social media is the biggest tool in vehicle for you know, stars,
Speaker 1: and you would think, oh J j W, you're established,
Speaker 1: you don't need to do that. But once you get
Speaker 1: on that path of promoting yourself, it's hard to jump off.
Speaker 1: So I get where he's coming from. You just gotta
Speaker 1: be a little bit more selective. But like Shinika said,
Speaker 1: it's not negative, so I can't be too mad at it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Nate, or so hold on Anna
Speaker 1: flip for a second, right, because I gotta put you
Speaker 1: on the spot dog. And we had a discussion about
Speaker 1: this last week. You promised we was gonna have somebody
Speaker 1: on the shoulder this week. Oh yeah, let me check
Speaker 1: my text message was gonna have somebody on the shoulder
Speaker 1: this week. Man, Well, Nate's checking his sex though. The
Speaker 1: question about j j O. People say that's what makes
Speaker 1: him him, right, like it's that part of his sona,
Speaker 1: that's what makes I mean, this is a guy who
Speaker 1: you know, didn't necessarily have the you know, the highest
Speaker 1: rated high school collegiate playing career, and then now he's
Speaker 1: the best defender in the game. Like maybe that's inspiring
Speaker 1: somebody like, oh wow, look how hard he works and
Speaker 1: look at the level he's at, So maybe you know
Speaker 1: for those Yeah, some people called out Ray Ray ray
Speaker 1: Lewis in his day for doing too much and obviously
Speaker 1: it was in a different way. And you know, ray
Speaker 1: Lewison do no wrong to me, but there are some
Speaker 1: people out there he thought that Ray Ray was too
Speaker 1: much with it. How did you guys feel about that,
Speaker 1: that Ray was too much? Yeah, to hear a good
Speaker 1: friend of mine though. Man, it's tough, but look Ray,
Speaker 1: he's a legend. Man. It's hard to say anything bad
Speaker 1: as going too much, but but I do, and I
Speaker 1: have heard guys on this team. I have her tell him.
Speaker 1: That's like, come on down a little bit. To imagine
Speaker 1: if Snapchat and Instagram was at its height when to
Speaker 1: our owns was playing. You want to talk about a
Speaker 1: guy who, uh, he captivated everybody when there wasn't even
Speaker 1: a vehicle for him to promote himself. He was using
Speaker 1: just normal day to day TV, local news, and he
Speaker 1: was making you know, NFL Network Sports Center every single night,
Speaker 1: and everybody thought, man, you're doing too much. But his
Speaker 1: brand is built and on top of that, he was
Speaker 1: a monster on the field. So for me, I feel like,
Speaker 1: just like Shnika said, there's no such thing as over promotion. Now,
Speaker 1: there such thing as over saturation. People can get. Over
Speaker 1: promotion is just building your branch continuing, you know, every
Speaker 1: single day, trying to promote yourself so people can buy
Speaker 1: into whatever you're selling, whether that's your sneaker line or
Speaker 1: your your clothing are just your your personality. But over
Speaker 1: saturation is people getting too used to you and turning
Speaker 1: you off because you're always in your face, in their face,
Speaker 1: like promoting yourself in a wrong way. And that's my opinion,
Speaker 1: crossed into the over saturation territory towards the tail end
Speaker 1: of his he did he did? And also what the
Speaker 1: thing about Ocho? His his numbers telled off to the
Speaker 1: thing about to Yo. He put up numbers everywhere he went. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't like him too much, but if you threw
Speaker 1: them the ball enough, he was gonna win games for you.
Speaker 1: And I think Ocho that that's kind where he messed up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. His his his actual play
Speaker 1: dropped off. And if you're gonna be promoting yourself and
Speaker 1: putting yourself out there like that, first and foremost we
Speaker 1: play football, Yeah, you better have a product, you better
Speaker 1: be out there putting put putting yourself out there like that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think that's still close to
Speaker 1: being the same thing. Nate, No, I really do. Man,
Speaker 1: if you're putting yourself out there is and that's saturating.
Speaker 1: If you over promoting yourself in't that saturating it? No, No,
Speaker 1: because you can. It's all. It's all about brand building anyway.
Speaker 1: You know what I what I try to tell these
Speaker 1: young guys when they come out is, um, this is
Speaker 1: a small window of time in your life. It seems
Speaker 1: like it's forever when you're in it. Mike. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're playing in the NFL, you're like, this is
Speaker 1: the beginning and this is the end. All. I love
Speaker 1: this sport. But what we have to tell these guys
Speaker 1: is the light at the end of the tunnel is
Speaker 1: small when you first get in, but then towards the
Speaker 1: end it gets bigger and brighter, and then eventually you're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm I'm out this tone it's over. I
Speaker 1: can't jump as I run as fast, I don't have
Speaker 1: the same following. So when you're in it, take advantage
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. The league will forever sell your image.
Speaker 1: The NFL. We signed our rights over right, they have
Speaker 1: our images forever. So they got your highlights, Mike, They're
Speaker 1: gonna run them until they can't run them anymore. The
Speaker 1: super Bowl you went to and what you guys did,
Speaker 1: and you pumping up the team and being in the huddle.
Speaker 1: So what I thought halfway through my career is if
Speaker 1: they're gonna sell my image, keep making money off of
Speaker 1: my image and my videos and my highlights forever, even
Speaker 1: when I'm dead, then I have to I have to
Speaker 1: grab every single fan, every single following while I'm innute.
Speaker 1: And if I can take that out of the league
Speaker 1: when I'm done, then I can benefit from it. And
Speaker 1: that's how built the things that I have. You know,
Speaker 1: I created Lying Blood when I was in Detroit because
Speaker 1: I'm a Leo and I played for lines and majority
Speaker 1: of the people that buy that brand, our fans that
Speaker 1: follow me when I was in Michigan that sd It
Speaker 1: also helped him create the videos, the wrapping and all
Speaker 1: that that he has on YouTube. One of feels YouTube
Speaker 1: right now that I'm not in. I'm not even in
Speaker 1: the video. How did you feel about that? Biggest stuff
Speaker 1: off just been through very you. You weren't even down, Mike, Listen,
Speaker 1: It's all good, It's all good. Next segment, next segment.
Speaker 1: I don't even try to apologize mate a t D.
Speaker 1: We will drop a beat before we do that. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, and I was saying, like he's got to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. We can just have him
Speaker 1: sliding for a cameo. It's got to be set up right.
Speaker 1: We're trying to do your service, mic Rob. I think
Speaker 1: that's problem. You know what I'm saying. Why it was
Speaker 1: a little Willie was here. That what I'm saying. Won't
Speaker 1: you wait a couple of days? You're helping us out?
Speaker 1: Oh I would just go ahead on My best man
Speaker 1: can't be in town for the wedding. But I'm just
Speaker 1: going on, you get another best man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's kind of a saw a good name.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Here we go. Before we
Speaker 1: get to her new segment, it's not a new segment.
Speaker 1: Were doing it for a couple of couple of shows. Now,
Speaker 1: Mike Rob, tell the people what it is or no,
Speaker 1: all right, what's going on TV? What you got for
Speaker 1: is this week? I have two on ours this week?
Speaker 1: You want to start off with Earl Thomas, my man
Speaker 1: dressed up as a king crown and all at his
Speaker 1: own wedding. To look what Nick's got with her day
Speaker 1: talking there we go. I like, he has a crown already.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like we're gonna do it alright.
Speaker 1: That's that's all I like. So the question is, was
Speaker 1: that a good look like Shanika right now with the
Speaker 1: crown over with my man, Earl Thomas potentially stealing the
Speaker 1: spotlight away from his bride, So you can't tell us
Speaker 1: it's not it's not still in the spotlight. I think
Speaker 1: I think, Nate, you said, you said it perfectly on
Speaker 1: Total Access last night. You're setting up, You're letting them know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm your king. I'm gonna try to protect you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I can um to be there
Speaker 1: for you. I'm gonna serve you, all of that type
Speaker 1: of stuff. And I thought, you know, I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool. It's a it's a message. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many kids he has, but I know he has
Speaker 1: at least one. Um, he's the king, she's the queen.
Speaker 1: And he walked down that aisle saying, listen, this is
Speaker 1: royalty and we're building something special here and we have
Speaker 1: royalty in our blood. And you know, to be honest,
Speaker 1: being a young African American athlete, you're trying to set
Speaker 1: the standard because there's a lot of misconceptions. You know,
Speaker 1: people have these perceptions of you know, guys who make
Speaker 1: it big and have money. And I think he's trying
Speaker 1: to dispel that and say, you know what, I am
Speaker 1: a king and you know, not to get too deep
Speaker 1: on us, but we're weren't cut from that clause. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where a lineage is. So um you know, I
Speaker 1: love it. So if I had to decide, uh yeah
Speaker 1: or not, I'll say yeah. I like his approach and
Speaker 1: his mindset, and it's sending a huge message to a
Speaker 1: lot of people that need to hear if your man
Speaker 1: came down, I'm gonna give my own man or not
Speaker 1: on it. But I'm gonna give him an or not.
Speaker 1: But but for all Thomas, I think it works, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, I think he's big personality,
Speaker 1: and I think that all goes with him. I think
Speaker 1: he owned it personally. Why why why it just wouldn't
Speaker 1: have worked. Why would look like a straight clown? You
Speaker 1: would have looked like a straight clown. Damn. But Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: he had the swag to go with it. He was
Speaker 1: feeling it. You know. I'm just trying to picture Mike
Speaker 1: because he Mike did walk down the aisle at our wedding,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to like picture him with Nahou. He
Speaker 1: would look up your guy, he would have looked and
Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable, and it wouldn't I got you. I I thought, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you yeah, okay. I'm all down for her,
Speaker 1: you know, like the whole royalty thing. But the pictures
Speaker 1: I saw his Brian wasn't necessarily dressed up as a queen.
Speaker 1: She looked like she had a regular, you know, wedding
Speaker 1: gown on. You know she should you know, shouted the
Speaker 1: Tierra rockets and everything. That's what I'm saying. She had
Speaker 1: that look going to She just naturally looked you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. She didn't need all that extra Who
Speaker 1: didn't let me need to pick it up? And not
Speaker 1: because we're bringing so much on our wedding day, you
Speaker 1: all need some extra flare? Yeah, you're right, all hear that?
Speaker 1: All right? The second one in this show is all right.
Speaker 1: We also Odell Beckham's video dancing at Drake's house. Rob
Speaker 1: gren Kelsey was also out there. Apparently Steph Curry was
Speaker 1: out there shooting in Drake's backyard. So I'm asking you guys,
Speaker 1: did you guys ever hang out with celebrities or not?
Speaker 1: I didn't really hang out. I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: i've met him. I've met some celebrities, I mean Odell
Speaker 1: and Rob and Steph gather at the same time. But
Speaker 1: Odell took a photo of Rob. Then there's another video
Speaker 1: of Odell's dancing with his homeboys, like dance choreography type stuff,
Speaker 1: routine and every song I umping up and I didn't
Speaker 1: read that. Yeah, he had a corey. It was a choreograph. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he jumped in and he did he cartweeled into the video.
Speaker 1: I'm not even jumping Mike, what are you laughing about?
Speaker 1: Just say he cartwheeled in the video? He did. I
Speaker 1: gotta go look at this when I can't imagine this
Speaker 1: looking dope. I just can't imagine that dope, all right? So, um,
Speaker 1: is Odell dancing too much like what we don't like? He? Oh,
Speaker 1: there was really good A lot of things. He can
Speaker 1: play baseball, he can pitch, he can hit. Um, he's
Speaker 1: a hooper, he got hops. I've seen him punk. He
Speaker 1: kicked like a forty yard field goal. Um, he might
Speaker 1: be one of like the most versatile athletes. He got swag,
Speaker 1: got the hair, and he could dance. Is he come?
Speaker 1: But why why you gotta ad and he can dance?
Speaker 1: He didn't know? You know what I'm saying because we've
Speaker 1: seen him dance, or what I'm saying, is he dancing?
Speaker 1: Look if he was just like doing the robot, I
Speaker 1: mean he could. He has good dance moves. So I'm
Speaker 1: entertained by it. I'm entertained by it. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: so if there's like a link, he says, Odell, dancing again,
Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna I'm gonna look at it. If
Speaker 1: it was whack, then I'd be like, all right, Odell,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I mean it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what you think this man dancing? You know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say or
Speaker 1: not just because like I've seen him dance plenty and
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. But at this point it's like, man, O'Dell,
Speaker 1: like just relax on a breakdance and you know I
Speaker 1: love everything else though, oh just trying to save it. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, why he got why everything gotta
Speaker 1: be why I gotta be a lot of posted dances.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could dance just you know, you know
Speaker 1: you because he's got Yeah. I think he's proud of
Speaker 1: his dance. And here and here it is like you
Speaker 1: knew the new generation knew like you know, fans of
Speaker 1: that there did not like back in the days, a
Speaker 1: challenge beating old start doing a whole one, right, That's
Speaker 1: how we fended down Michael Jackson in the bad video.
Speaker 1: That's what's about to happen there. I would say this though,
Speaker 1: just like we talked about earlier with social media, um O'Dell,
Speaker 1: he is building his brand in a phenomenal way. And
Speaker 1: there's and there's a demographic that wants to see him dance.
Speaker 1: There's just like there's a demographic that won't see him play.
Speaker 1: There's also people that just they love the social side
Speaker 1: of what deal. They don't even care that he's a
Speaker 1: good I'm not gonna lie. My kids love it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they love everything. My son the other day was like, hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: I want to grow my hair out and die at
Speaker 1: the tips. That's exactly what my kids said. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can do it, I said, because old deal. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, of course, I get it, and I respect
Speaker 1: that he's having an impact on my child. That's a
Speaker 1: little Nate. His name is little Nate, and he's he
Speaker 1: wants to look like a little old deal and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. And again, he's not doing anything negative.
Speaker 1: He's just dancing. So and that house so like, who
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to dance? He had a waterfall in the background.
Speaker 1: Who I mean, how come you to? I can wait
Speaker 1: and get it. Invite now, I don't know. I am
Speaker 1: Canadian too, I should have got damn. You know. I
Speaker 1: was watching the video and I was like, I saw
Speaker 1: del dance. I'm like, okay, I know he could dance.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm like looking at the landscape, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: that crib is crazy bananas. I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: would like to kick with at Drake's house. You would
Speaker 1: of you know, I'll try to get a deal over
Speaker 1: your name, like I'm trying to get signed Ovial Nate.
Speaker 1: That sounds kind of smooth. Ovio Nate. What is a
Speaker 1: New Balance? Yeah, Ovio Nate? Where didn't where did the
Speaker 1: New Balance name come from? Uh Man's a curious n B.
Speaker 1: You know his Nick Burless and New Balance is nb UM.
Speaker 1: When I first started rapping, which was like high school,
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, like, because I like lyrics, I'm
Speaker 1: cut from like that type of hip hop cloth hip
Speaker 1: hop cloth, and I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring a new balance to the game. I don't
Speaker 1: do the whole like just spit gibberish and make it
Speaker 1: rhyme with a nice beat, like I want to say
Speaker 1: something that's clever and you gotta like either or why did?
Speaker 1: I'll be like yo, that was kind of that was
Speaker 1: that was tight. So I was like, Yea'm gonna bring
Speaker 1: a new balance to the game. And uh, that's how
Speaker 1: I came up. That's dope name. I'm gonna saw calling
Speaker 1: you new bounding new bound After that, I gotta listen,
Speaker 1: though I did. I was just checking my Instagram and uh,
Speaker 1: Snoop came in shout out on his I g to
Speaker 1: that he did he Snoopy here wrapped up chilling. He
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, Nate, you did your thing, like shout out,
Speaker 1: that's dope. That's I'm I'm on cloud nine right now.
Speaker 1: BRONC hit me up like crazy. Can you hit him
Speaker 1: up and ask him who presses his hair because I'm
Speaker 1: just looking for something saying it's always laid. Just ask him.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you. I'm gonna trying to get a collaboration.
Speaker 1: I think he'll do it. You know. That's that's the
Speaker 1: O g Willie like Willie and it's here at the network.
Speaker 1: That's his board. Don't we gotta clip tod We gotta
Speaker 1: clip from it from the Instagram. Shout out to Nate
Speaker 1: Burglers and that rap you did to recap the season
Speaker 1: on the NFL channel. That was dope. But that was hard.
Speaker 1: N B New Balance, that was hard this season recap
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