Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Ye,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Uh this is this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun one. Um. No, I would say
Speaker 1: that you and I are at times rambunctious, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I wouldn't say we're scally wags or scoundrels.
Speaker 1: What do you think, you know? I've often fancied myself
Speaker 1: been a bit of a rapscallion from time to time,
Speaker 1: and then only because I'm incorrigible, you just can't take
Speaker 1: me anywhere. But now I don't think I may have
Speaker 1: in past life dipped my toe into the shallow end
Speaker 1: of the scoundrel pool, but I've certainly reformed long since.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we can squarely say neither of us,
Speaker 1: including super producer Casey Pegram, our scoundrels. I've always you know,
Speaker 1: before the word became politically charged, I liked to think
Speaker 1: of myself as a maverick based on that Mel Gibson film.
Speaker 1: It was it was like a card shark, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: it was a maverick. And when we were getting ready
Speaker 1: for this episode, I know out of the three of us.
Speaker 1: I can't be the only one who thought of the
Speaker 1: film Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Do you remember that one? I do.
Speaker 1: That's the one about the dirty rotten Scoundrels. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's a very student summary. Also, Steve Martin is like
Speaker 1: the one of the best banjo players in the world's fabulous.
Speaker 1: So it's Steve Martin. And who's his uh, who's his
Speaker 1: scoundrel cohort in that movie? I'm forgetting now. It's definitely
Speaker 1: not Mel Gibson. We've established that guy's kind of a
Speaker 1: maverick just right now, Ja, it feels like a Jack
Speaker 1: Lemon type figure. No, no, I'm just thinking of things
Speaker 1: dirty rutten. We must solve this show until eight? Is
Speaker 1: it Michael Caine? Michael Kaine? It's Michael Caine, but I
Speaker 1: don't even recognize them. It's Michael Kaine. I was looking
Speaker 1: at the poster and before I could read the text,
Speaker 1: I was just like, who is that? Yeah? I just
Speaker 1: I haven't just I don't remember anything about the movie
Speaker 1: except that there's a scene where Steve Martin pretends to
Speaker 1: have an eye patch and they they they're they're basically
Speaker 1: confidence men, and they go around you know, seducing heiresses
Speaker 1: and trying to con people out of their crown jewels.
Speaker 1: And and I don't know if a lot of people
Speaker 1: won't know this, but the recent uh movie starring Rebel
Speaker 1: Wilson and Anne Hathaway, The Hustle, is essentially a retelling
Speaker 1: of dirty, rotten scoundrels, with the the said scoundrels being
Speaker 1: played by women. So women can be scoundrels too. I
Speaker 1: think it's trying to, like, you give the word back
Speaker 1: to the people, you know, because you think it's like
Speaker 1: a scoundrel and we think of a dirty dog man,
Speaker 1: you know, but women can scoundrel it with the best
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, let's h Let's make sure that everybody
Speaker 1: is equally recognized in their ability to be a terrible person.
Speaker 1: Gargo Humans. Also just a shout out to the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine film about another um someone irredeemable character, The Jerk,
Speaker 1: also starring Steve Martin. It's classic. It can't go on said,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. We're not talking about Steve Martin
Speaker 1: for the show. We could do an episode on Steve later,
Speaker 1: maybe we can even interview him, But today we are
Speaker 1: talking about a man who is sometimes known as America's
Speaker 1: first notorious scoundrel. His name Dan Sickles. What did he do?
Speaker 1: What made him? You guys remember that you may be
Speaker 1: familiar with that cartoon sitcom American Dad. There's an alien
Speaker 1: named Roger, and there's just running joke that Roger has
Speaker 1: this alternate persona, a guy named Ricky Spanish, and he's
Speaker 1: and he's a total lothario. Yeah, he's a monster. He's worse.
Speaker 1: He's a monster. But Dan Siggles is kind of like
Speaker 1: a Ricky Spanish. How did he get here? What are
Speaker 1: we talking about? And how does he help us avoid
Speaker 1: romanticizing America of days past? It's a good question, man,
Speaker 1: And I want to start with a reading from this
Speaker 1: fabulous piece PBS article. I just love the way they
Speaker 1: sum this up, because this is very true. We sometimes
Speaker 1: assume that people today are naughtier than those of yesteryear,
Speaker 1: that morals have decayed the point of rotting, that lovers
Speaker 1: are less faithful, politicians more corrupt. But to name at
Speaker 1: least one strong counter argument to such supposed decline, there
Speaker 1: is Daniel Sickles, a nineteenth century congressman, friends to presidents,
Speaker 1: civil war general, not to mention as well, a notorious philanderer,
Speaker 1: a corrupt Tammany Hall politician, an embezzler, a cold blooded murderer,
Speaker 1: and the officer who almost cost the Union victory and
Speaker 1: perhaps the most pivotal battle of the Civil War. A
Speaker 1: real pos this guy, and also a fabulous piece of
Speaker 1: writing from SuDS. Sure. Yeah, that credit goes to Dennis
Speaker 1: Gaffney who was the author of that piece. Uh So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy is a pos. Uh. This being a family show,
Speaker 1: I proposed that we we make it a running thing
Speaker 1: where we try to find different definitions of p O S.
Speaker 1: So let's say, um, what you're talking about, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say point of scoundrelity. So so okay. So Dan is
Speaker 1: born Daniel Edgar Sickles, October, New York City. We know
Speaker 1: of one of his first low life moves that occurred
Speaker 1: when he was a teenager. He was accused of stealing
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks that had in uh given to him
Speaker 1: by a guy named Peter Cooper. Peter Cooper is a
Speaker 1: philanthropist and according to The New York Times in their
Speaker 1: wonderful article the man who got away with Everything, Peter
Speaker 1: Cooper was like Saint Lee. He was the most beloved
Speaker 1: dude in New York City. Uh. Sickles parents put up
Speaker 1: with him a lot, you know, and it's just like
Speaker 1: a boy's will be boys thing. And they sent him
Speaker 1: off to home in Manhattan, the household of Lorenzo da Ponte.
Speaker 1: And they were hoping that this that Dan would soak
Speaker 1: up some culture, that he would maybe turn his young
Speaker 1: life in a more productive direction. Um. But it didn't
Speaker 1: work out the way they had hoped. Yes. In fact,
Speaker 1: some very salacious rumors began to swirl that Sickle had
Speaker 1: seduced DuPont's adopted married arnor Maria Cook Baggioli. Uh, and
Speaker 1: to boot, had blackmailed her husband. So a cup holder
Speaker 1: and a blackmailer. It gets worse, it totally gets worse.
Speaker 1: And then not too terribly long after, he would go
Speaker 1: on to seduce Maria's fifteen year old daughter, m hmm uh, Teresa.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm out to his credit now, not really,
Speaker 1: not at all. Now, he did make an honest ish
Speaker 1: woman out of her by bringing her before the Roman
Speaker 1: Catholic Archbishop of New York, John J. Hughes Uh to
Speaker 1: be joined and wedded. You know, acrimony, let's call it
Speaker 1: be only because she was like super priggers right right,
Speaker 1: like visibly third trimester territory. Uh. The New York Times
Speaker 1: sums it up this way in their article, saying, these
Speaker 1: auditionous by getting what set the path out of Sile's
Speaker 1: life willful nearly to the point of madness. He was
Speaker 1: nonetheless able to win over at astonishing number of men
Speaker 1: and especially women, thanks to his good looks, dashing manna
Speaker 1: and pension for grand gestice Wisely, he decided to become
Speaker 1: a lawyer since it was unlikely he would ever go
Speaker 1: very long without being holed. Didn't a court just the
Speaker 1: shade on this thing. So all this stuff in his
Speaker 1: childhood aside. He does go to college. He attends the
Speaker 1: University of the City of New York eighteen forty six.
Speaker 1: He is admitted to the bar. He becomes a lawyer.
Speaker 1: He's still a blackguard, he's still kind of a heel,
Speaker 1: but now he's got he's got a law degree. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he's also active in the Democratic Party. And he's
Speaker 1: still sleeping around like crazy right big time. He's what
Speaker 1: he's what, he's what today we would call a himbo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is the modern version of Lithario. That's exactly correct.
Speaker 1: Then in eighty seven he decided to enter into a
Speaker 1: long desired career in politics. Um, and he won a
Speaker 1: seat on the state legislature. And he was carrying on
Speaker 1: during this time a relationship with a New York escort
Speaker 1: named Fanny White. Uh. There were also rumors that he
Speaker 1: brought Fanny White to London with him on a diplomatic
Speaker 1: mission while leaving his wife home in New York and pregnant. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's some rumors about him that we know aren't true.
Speaker 1: They're a little bit too larger than life. Uh. But
Speaker 1: let's let's talk as politics here. Because he won two
Speaker 1: consecutive terms in the New York State Senate like he
Speaker 1: was good at this eighteen fifty six and eighteen fifty seven. Well,
Speaker 1: I think one would argue that a serial seducer and
Speaker 1: a like a long time politician probably share similar skill sets.
Speaker 1: You know, what is politics if not like seducing your
Speaker 1: constituents into believing in you. Well, there are some politicians
Speaker 1: whould disagree, but I think there are many people who
Speaker 1: would note that there is a macavellio in aspect to it. Right,
Speaker 1: So absolutely, and I'm I'm I'm so oversimplifying the case
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, if you can talk
Speaker 1: repeatedly women into sleeping with you and convincing them that
Speaker 1: you're like a good guy, Uh, then perhaps that skill
Speaker 1: would also serve you well, you know, in in politics. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a valid observation. There.
Speaker 1: He was set to go on being just kind of
Speaker 1: a slimy dude in the political sphere of New York.
Speaker 1: But he entered national politics, and he served as a
Speaker 1: congress person in the House of Representatives from eighteen fifty
Speaker 1: seven to eighteen sixty one. There were people who had
Speaker 1: not heard of Dan Sickles until eighteen fifty eight, Uh,
Speaker 1: when he rose from being you know, just kind of
Speaker 1: like a well known scalawag to an infamous figure in
Speaker 1: American politics. No earlier, we said that he was associated
Speaker 1: with the Tammany Hall machine, um, and that's how he
Speaker 1: got his post in US Congress. The story started when
Speaker 1: he was censured for bringing a sex worker onto the
Speaker 1: floor of the New York Senate. It was also kind
Speaker 1: of a man of ill repute because he had married
Speaker 1: that fifteen year old we mentioned Teresa. He had married
Speaker 1: her when he was thirty three and she was fifteen. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I keep throwing off my mouth a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: do you think he had a reputation at this point,
Speaker 1: ben like like a broadly speaking or is this just
Speaker 1: like the way history remembers him, because surely these, many
Speaker 1: of these acts would have been considered a scandal for
Speaker 1: an elected official, right, Well, that's that's the thing. Um.
Speaker 1: It's not as if everybody was a paragon of perfect ideals.
Speaker 1: But but I think his shadow was starting to catch
Speaker 1: up to him. That makes sense. So, uh, he was
Speaker 1: elected to Congress after coming to Washington and being welcomed
Speaker 1: into their like innermost elite circles. Um. And then he
Speaker 1: became dear friends with Philip Barton Key, the son of
Speaker 1: famed Francis Scott Key of that weird song that that
Speaker 1: seems to represent America and some Yeah, and I've never
Speaker 1: quite understood the imagery in that one. And if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I believe there's a verse to that song
Speaker 1: that's more than a little bit racist that gets removed
Speaker 1: for popular repetition. Right right, So without doing that verse,
Speaker 1: I know that the star Spangled banner itself is said
Speaker 1: to be the key was inspired by seeing a single U.
Speaker 1: S Flag still flying over Fort McHenry at daybreak. That's right, Ben,
Speaker 1: And in fact, originally the song was called the Defense
Speaker 1: of Fort McHenry and h you know, sorry, we're getting
Speaker 1: off on a little tangent here. It's just starting to
Speaker 1: jog both of our memories that we actually did an
Speaker 1: entire episode on this um. But it is a lyric
Speaker 1: that is left out that report that that basically, uh,
Speaker 1: it represents the deep root of slavery in American culture.
Speaker 1: Let's just leave it at that. Oh, I mean we
Speaker 1: could say it on air. The line that you're not
Speaker 1: going to hear is no refuge could save the hire
Speaker 1: ling enslave from the terror of flight or the gloom
Speaker 1: of the grave and the star spangled banner and triumph
Speaker 1: doth wave or the land of the Free and the
Speaker 1: home of the brave talking about the hutsman of putting
Speaker 1: slave and then land of the free not not not
Speaker 1: more than four lines apart. Yeah, not to mention that
Speaker 1: slave fixes like is basically used to fit that rhyming
Speaker 1: scheme slave, grave, Wave, brave. He was in a hurry,
Speaker 1: definitely in a hurry, but nonetheless he and and Sickles
Speaker 1: became good friends and Daniel, I'm sorry his son rather
Speaker 1: became good friends. And Daniel often asked his pal Key
Speaker 1: Daniel Sickles uh to be his wife's escort to social gatherings, um,
Speaker 1: whenever he had to work late. This is a fellow
Speaker 1: congressman by the way, or you know, he had like
Speaker 1: a girl on the side as well. So this was
Speaker 1: like very much part of the culture of being like
Speaker 1: a politician as well. It seems this whole idea. It's
Speaker 1: almost like in the mob, you have your like your wife,
Speaker 1: and then you have your guma you know, I guess,
Speaker 1: And in politics in these days, you had your your
Speaker 1: your wife and then you're like side girl. So Key
Speaker 1: and Teresa became friends and then pretty quickly that turned
Speaker 1: into romance and then uh, the soap opera begins. Because
Speaker 1: despite the attempts to keep their affairs secret, uh, it
Speaker 1: became common knowledge in their social circle in the elite
Speaker 1: social scene of New York City, both Dan and his
Speaker 1: wife Teresa had other affairs. They were sleeping around left
Speaker 1: and right, you know. And I will say, uh, no judgment.
Speaker 1: I think everybody, every single relationship is a foreign country.
Speaker 1: So if they had some kind of open arrangement. That's
Speaker 1: that's up to them. But Dan also had a reputation
Speaker 1: for visiting brothels, which is you know, as we know
Speaker 1: is is probably not safe from a hygienic perspective at
Speaker 1: this time. Weirdly though, how weird is the misogynistic double
Speaker 1: standard here, you guys. Uh did people care about Dan's
Speaker 1: affairs and dalliances? No? Uh, they were more scandalized that
Speaker 1: Teresa would dare to have an affair because he did
Speaker 1: makes him a cuckled. Of course they were. This was
Speaker 1: hows how it was. Men were never blamed. It was
Speaker 1: always the women who were ashamed and had to carry
Speaker 1: that like you know, scarlet letter situation. And here's the thing,
Speaker 1: Sickles had a reputation like it was a known thing
Speaker 1: that he liked to visit brothels around d C. But
Speaker 1: it was only teresa affair that got people all bent
Speaker 1: out of shape. In the nineteenth century, a wife's affair,
Speaker 1: like you said, Ben turned her husband into the the
Speaker 1: worst thing could turn a man into a cuckold. Even
Speaker 1: though now it's used in like fetishy stuff. That's a
Speaker 1: different story, um, and undermine in the eyes of this society.
Speaker 1: It would have undermined his masculinity. Another horrible thing he
Speaker 1: could do. Uh. And all while a husband's affairs were
Speaker 1: simply just whatever, like nobody cared. It was understood that
Speaker 1: men gonna be men. Um and they were. This was
Speaker 1: even they were like gossip columns at the time. Uh.
Speaker 1: And one particularly well known gossip columnist called key quote
Speaker 1: the handsomest man and all Washington society. Uh and he, uh,
Speaker 1: you know this is this is this is like basically
Speaker 1: the takeaway from what how he was seeing the handsomest
Speaker 1: man in all Washington society, ineligible, non bachelor but whatever.
Speaker 1: Um and and they had like little signals, right Ben, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So their d C dalliances were well known. One reporter
Speaker 1: said that he would signal Teresa by waving his handkerchief
Speaker 1: on the street, and then they would meet at an
Speaker 1: abandoned house that was just like walking distance from the
Speaker 1: actual White House. And Teresa is on record confessing, I
Speaker 1: did what is usually for a wicked woman to do.
Speaker 1: I don't think she sounded so arch when she said that. However,
Speaker 1: this is not a sustainable thing. February fifty nine, Sickles
Speaker 1: receives an anonymous letter and he confronts his wife, Teresa,
Speaker 1: and he forces her to write a confession. And then
Speaker 1: three days go by and he sees his former friend
Speaker 1: Key outside of his house waving his handkerchief the signal
Speaker 1: for the affair to, you know, resume. And he went
Speaker 1: into a state of rage. And he was like, that
Speaker 1: villain is out there now making side lines. So he
Speaker 1: grabbed not one gun, not two guns, but three guns
Speaker 1: and ran outside to confront this guy because he is
Speaker 1: a hypocrite. Uh. He shot his wife's lover in full
Speaker 1: view of the White House and he screamed, you scoundrel,
Speaker 1: you have dishordered my house. You must die, because it
Speaker 1: apparently wasn't okay for other people to have affairs just him.
Speaker 1: So Sickles did with his drawn pistol, fire several times
Speaker 1: at Key, and he hit him once in the leg
Speaker 1: and once in the hand. He kind of just winged him. Uh.
Speaker 1: Key made a mad dash for Sickles and gripped him
Speaker 1: by the lapels and two men had a good tussle
Speaker 1: on the ground rolling around um and and this was
Speaker 1: all being gauwcked upon by the elite who lived in
Speaker 1: this part of of Washington. This is in a very
Speaker 1: fancy part of the city. So Sickles gets to his
Speaker 1: feet finally after breaking away from Key, and fired a
Speaker 1: second shot. Yeah, and you're the growing. Key also had
Speaker 1: a weapon. I guess you could say he pulled the
Speaker 1: only thing he could. He had on his person a
Speaker 1: pair of opera glasses, and he threw those at Dan Sickles.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine trying to menace somebody with a pair
Speaker 1: of opera glasses. That's the most genteel thing anyone could
Speaker 1: ever be holding. There's nothing less threatening than a pair
Speaker 1: of opera glasses. A monocle. A monocle is half is threatening.
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. But but you're you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: This does seem like an hilarious scene. But then Sickles
Speaker 1: fires again. Key is against the offense. He's pleading for
Speaker 1: his life. Don't kill me, don't kill me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Sickles points a gun at the center of his old
Speaker 1: friend's chest. He fires, Key staggers away a few feet,
Speaker 1: and then he dies. Sickles looks around. At least a
Speaker 1: dozen people have seen him do this, because he's shouting
Speaker 1: in the street beforehand and during uh he runs away,
Speaker 1: but then he eventually surrenders the police. A few hours later,
Speaker 1: he's charged with murder. He's taken to jail. Yeah, isn't interesting, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, not too terribly long in history before this,
Speaker 1: something like this would have been considered legal if it
Speaker 1: had been a duel agreed to by both parties. Right,
Speaker 1: But this was not that because only Sickles was armed
Speaker 1: at least, you know, legitimately armed, whereas he you know,
Speaker 1: was essentially helpless aside from his pathetic attempt at you know,
Speaker 1: brandishing a pair of opera glasses. So yeah, he gets,
Speaker 1: he gets, he gets taken away. He does indeed get
Speaker 1: taken away. Uh, he's locked up. But he's also a
Speaker 1: former congressman, so that that gives him some special privileges.
Speaker 1: He's got some juice in the city there he is. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: So many people came by to convey their well wishes
Speaker 1: that he was able to use the apartment of the
Speaker 1: jail keeper to entertain his guests, who were high level
Speaker 1: federal officials, members of Congress, and so on. Then President
Speaker 1: James Buchanan did not personally visit, but he did send
Speaker 1: Sickles a nice note. Uh. Sickles got several prominent politicians
Speaker 1: to be his defense attorneys, including one man Edwin M. Stanton,
Speaker 1: who would later go on to become Lincoln's Secretary of War.
Speaker 1: Oh and he was allowed to keep a weapon in
Speaker 1: jail just to have Wait, why that's that's like to
Speaker 1: defend himself from being shanked or something, or just like
Speaker 1: as a special privilege, he was able to have a
Speaker 1: concealed weapon in jail. Well, we don't know whether they
Speaker 1: were opera glasses, a monocle, or a gunn fair, one
Speaker 1: would assume it was the very least appointed stick. Yes,
Speaker 1: one would assume this sensational murder. His front page news,
Speaker 1: it's all anyone can talk about. The New York Herald
Speaker 1: says it is a tragic affair, and they say that
Speaker 1: it is the prominent topic of conversation in homes, in
Speaker 1: public everywhere everywhere in the city. Uh, we know that
Speaker 1: Sickles gave interviews with the press where he's not saying
Speaker 1: he's not guilty, he's just justifying it. He's like he
Speaker 1: dishonored me. So boom boom boom. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: time when honor, at least perceived honor ment a whole
Speaker 1: hell of a lot more, perhaps than it means today.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. Maybe I'm just bummed
Speaker 1: out about our times currently, But yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: certainly was. You know, you would you would literally, you know,
Speaker 1: challenge someone to a duel for for you know, attacking
Speaker 1: your honor and reputation was very, very important, even though
Speaker 1: as we know, these men did terrible, terrible things behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. But you dare not accuse them of such, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: just you know, blaming on the women. It's their fault.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this became a massive hullabaloo. Uh. The tragic
Speaker 1: affair produced a great sensation, said the New York Herald.
Speaker 1: In the streets, the law courts, public houses, private dwellings,
Speaker 1: and in fact everywhere. It was the prominent topic of conversation.
Speaker 1: Even President James Buchanan took sides in the sensational case.
Speaker 1: I know where my my read is morphing, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna roll with it. He sent a letter of support
Speaker 1: to the imprisoned Congressman. Sickles told one paper, he has
Speaker 1: this autoed me, and we could not live together on
Speaker 1: the same planet. Harper's Weekly judged the outcome they called
Speaker 1: the trial. They said, this is how it's gonna go,
Speaker 1: they said, the public of the United States will justify
Speaker 1: him in killing the man who dishonored his bed. WHOA,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry dishonored his bed. Yeah. They weren't even at
Speaker 1: that house. They were at a different making a case
Speaker 1: on a technicality and joke. Uh. Even though Sickles did
Speaker 1: admit to firing the shots that killed Key. Uh, many
Speaker 1: folks were kind of on his side, Yeah, because they
Speaker 1: felt like his masculinity or his manhood were under attack.
Speaker 1: And also again he had a lot of juice. He
Speaker 1: hired no less than eight different attorneys to represent him
Speaker 1: during the trial. One of them, John Graham, spent two
Speaker 1: entire days in court. On his opening statement defending Uh
Speaker 1: Sickles the scoundrel. Uh, he quoted a fellow to kind
Speaker 1: of justify sickles action, saying that adultery was evil and
Speaker 1: this is really interesting. He said that discovering the affair
Speaker 1: had rendered Daniel Sickles temporarily insane. This was a new concept.
Speaker 1: In course, it's a it's a concept that to this
Speaker 1: day gets kind of the eye roll. Doesn't have been
Speaker 1: Like temporary insanity is almost something relegated to like the
Speaker 1: realms of satire and comedy, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I'm wrong there, but certainly insanity is
Speaker 1: a thing that that. But but temporary insanity really feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, almost the equivalent of in the heat of
Speaker 1: the moment or a crime of passion. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's incredibly rare for people to successfully plead insanity,
Speaker 1: you know. But they're relying on the jury sympathy rather
Speaker 1: than the letter of the law. So Graham says, you know,
Speaker 1: it may be tragical two and that is the word
Speaker 1: these So maybe tragical to shed human blood. But I'll
Speaker 1: always maintain there is no tragedy about slaying the adulter her.
Speaker 1: And then they went on to attack the character of Teresa.
Speaker 1: You know, they went on a smear campaign against her
Speaker 1: in court, calling her a sex worker, calling her a murderer, uh,
Speaker 1: saying that she longed for her husband's death. Uh, and
Speaker 1: she didn't care how it happened, whether he died by
Speaker 1: poison or was stabbed or was shot. They called her,
Speaker 1: they called her horrid filth like they weren't really pulling punches.
Speaker 1: They were trying to make her look like a terrible person. No,
Speaker 1: and God, this guy is a real piece of work.
Speaker 1: He Sickles himself tried to cast himself as the quote
Speaker 1: avenger of the invaded household, meaning like the scorned man,
Speaker 1: the cuckolded man. His wife m was portrayed as complete,
Speaker 1: completely immoral harpy, and the key deserved to die for
Speaker 1: what he had done. The judge is not buying this,
Speaker 1: by the way, thank god is. He speaks the jury
Speaker 1: on April. Then he says, look in regards the temporary insanity,
Speaker 1: Dan Sickles learned of this affair, and then there was
Speaker 1: a gap in time before he killed Philip Keys. He
Speaker 1: spent three days plotting this attack after receiving that note.
Speaker 1: So just remember that that doesn't seem very temporarily insane
Speaker 1: to me. The judges implying the jury deliberates for about
Speaker 1: an hour and they say Dan Sickles is not guilty
Speaker 1: by reason of temporary insanity. It's just like a legal
Speaker 1: drama on television. The packed courtroom burst into applause. More
Speaker 1: than a thousand people leads Sickles through the streets in
Speaker 1: an improvised victory parade. That's not how courts are supposed
Speaker 1: to work. Yeah, you know, Ben. I had to do
Speaker 1: a little digging just to kind of see how often
Speaker 1: the temporary insanity arguments you know, actually flies, and it
Speaker 1: is not very often. Um, like there's one, Um this
Speaker 1: is are a few modern examples, but you know, Sickles
Speaker 1: is definitely on the list. Um John Hinckley Jr. Who
Speaker 1: took a shot at President and Reagan um and also
Speaker 1: injured some police in secret service. Uh he he got
Speaker 1: off on a a temporary insanity plea. Also remember Lorraina Bobbitt, Yes,
Speaker 1: who d man She also robbed her husband of his manhood,
Speaker 1: if you'll recall, we don't have to get too into
Speaker 1: the details. And then she threw his manhood into a bush.
Speaker 1: She got off on a temporary insanity police too. I
Speaker 1: had no idea. And Bobbitt survived, of course he of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know his manhood did not or did they
Speaker 1: find it and put it back on? I believe. So yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's nice. Um, it's maybe a different episode, but uh,
Speaker 1: but you're right. Yeah. As I said earlier, the temporary
Speaker 1: insanity plea is very difficult to get through court h
Speaker 1: but it works for sickles. This is the first successful
Speaker 1: temporary insanity plea, and various papers of note are not
Speaker 1: super cool with it. The Tribune and says this is
Speaker 1: a most mistaken and most mischievous verdict. They say it's
Speaker 1: carrying the country backwards. Here's the thing, though, the jury,
Speaker 1: even though the jury said they was not guilty by
Speaker 1: reason of temporary insanity, they probably didn't buy that defense.
Speaker 1: What they were really thinking of is the more Victorian
Speaker 1: morality that Key had it coming, and that even if
Speaker 1: you are a dude who is sleeping around, if someone
Speaker 1: sleeps with your wife, you are right to attack them
Speaker 1: to take revenge or to kill them, unless that's just
Speaker 1: like what you're into, man, you know, yeah, it takes
Speaker 1: all types, I guess. And so after the trial get this,
Speaker 1: Sickles stays married to Teresa, and he says, I shall
Speaker 1: strive to prove to all that an airing wife and
Speaker 1: mother may be forgiven and redeemed. I'll say it, what
Speaker 1: a day, God, what absolute hypocrite. And just oh, just
Speaker 1: the the gas lighting of it all, you know, just
Speaker 1: the public shaming of it all, the absolute lack of
Speaker 1: self awareness of it all. Uh, it just kind of
Speaker 1: makes it makes your stomach turn. But you know what
Speaker 1: Sickles Cowardice and uh and uh and Despicable Behavior has
Speaker 1: many chapters, to the point where we have decided, uh
Speaker 1: to make this a two parter um. And you know,
Speaker 1: the next chapter of Sickles Despicable Existence really is a
Speaker 1: completely different world. So we've gotten through the adultery, We've
Speaker 1: gotten through the trial of the century. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: leave it here, uh and wrap and then and then
Speaker 1: rejoin the story already in progress next time. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime, UH, gird yourselves, ridiculous historians. This guy continues
Speaker 1: on his irascible journeys. I we want to thank everybody
Speaker 1: for tuning in. Of course, big big thanks to Gabe
Speaker 1: Luzier are search assistant, big big thanks to uh super
Speaker 1: producer Casey Pegram Casey. I'm sad that this is just
Speaker 1: an audio show for now because the lighting on you
Speaker 1: looks really good. Thanks Ben. It's uh. I'm here with
Speaker 1: some natural light by the window. The sun is going down,
Speaker 1: so it's getting dramatic over here. Is it the Magic Hour? Casey?
Speaker 1: Is it the Magic Hour? Terence Malick? That's right, And
Speaker 1: of course also thanks to Christopher Hasiotis. Thanks to Alex Williams,
Speaker 1: who composed that slapping Bob you here at the beginning
Speaker 1: and end of the show. Who else? Oh, yes, that's
Speaker 1: slapping Bob. Indeed huge thanks to Jonathan Strickland, a k a.
Speaker 1: The Quister, who I think we're neck and neck with
Speaker 1: now in terms of the rankings of our our rivalry
Speaker 1: are kind of Nemesis scenario. I believe you're correct. I
Speaker 1: believe you're correct. So everything uh hinges on his next appearance?
Speaker 1: Did you say Gabe already? Yes? Good? Well, let's say
Speaker 1: it again. Gabe Lousier, the man, the myth, the legend.
Speaker 1: We keep talking about it. We really need to hit
Speaker 1: him up and get him back on for a guest
Speaker 1: spot because he is a delight. That last episode we
Speaker 1: did with him about the guy that drew Psychedelic Cats
Speaker 1: is honestly one of my favorites in the history of
Speaker 1: the show. I agree to disagree. No, I'm gidding. It's
Speaker 1: a good one. Uh so it's a good one. Check
Speaker 1: it out. You haven't heard it? Um? Yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Gabe. Gabe, if you're listening, uh, come
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Speaker 1: not that bad, not as bad as Dan, oh god,
Speaker 1: not by a long shot. We'll see you next Tomeflix.
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