Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to Stephana
Speaker 1: never told you protection of I Heart Radio. It is
Speaker 1: time for another feminist movie Friday the first. Yeah, Yes,
Speaker 1: and we're starting it with one of my absolute favorite
Speaker 1: movies of all time, the nine classic The Mommy, Mommy.
Speaker 1: And by Samantha's insistence, the Mommy too, I feel like
Speaker 1: it has to be there. According to you, you're very
Speaker 1: very passionate about it. Yes, and the Mommy was a
Speaker 1: listener's suggestion, So thank you, Kayla. I always love when
Speaker 1: listeners suggests something that I love anyway, So it's like
Speaker 1: I get to just rewatch something that I already really enjoy.
Speaker 1: And she sent us a link to a blog post
Speaker 1: by Lee in a Red Dress that was really helpful.
Speaker 1: In all of this made a lot of great points
Speaker 1: about the kind of feminist take on this movie. We'll
Speaker 1: be getting into that later. Also. A recently, Ish watched
Speaker 1: this with co worker and friend Lauren Vogelbaum, and we
Speaker 1: kept saying how much Rachel Revices character still holds up.
Speaker 1: We kept being like, well, yeah, I feel like unlike
Speaker 1: a lot of the movies or TV that we watched
Speaker 1: from twenty years ago, twenty years ago. I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't hold up, and you kind of squirm and have
Speaker 1: to accept that it was made back when, even though
Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been made back when. And this one
Speaker 1: doesn't do that as much, so you're like, Okay, we're cool.
Speaker 1: We're cool. Although the second one a little less held up,
Speaker 1: little less. We'll sign up. Yeah. Well, I absolutely adore
Speaker 1: The Mummy. I it's one of six movies that I
Speaker 1: can quote the whole way through the Egyptian in all
Speaker 1: which I I have no idea if that's actually Egyptian,
Speaker 1: but I can say it similarly to how they say
Speaker 1: it in the movie. And I remember I had to
Speaker 1: campaign really hard to see this movie in theaters as
Speaker 1: my dad because he's like, I think it might scare you,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't. I said these were
Speaker 1: still my parents would go with me to PG thirteen movies,
Speaker 1: and I just I worked so hard to convince him,
Speaker 1: and then I was trying really really hard to hide
Speaker 1: how scared I was, because he was right. The Beatles,
Speaker 1: the scare of Beatles really scared me. And I think
Speaker 1: I had a crush on pretty much half the people
Speaker 1: in this movie at one point in time and I
Speaker 1: love the ride at Universal. It is so fun. That
Speaker 1: is a good ride. I hope they don't take it
Speaker 1: down because it's funny. It's like about the making of
Speaker 1: the movie right, and I'm not sure how much like
Speaker 1: the younger generation gets it, but right right, And it's
Speaker 1: definitely old Brendon Fiser. Two's definitely way back when Brendon
Speaker 1: Faser right because when you see him today it looks
Speaker 1: attle different. Has gone through a lot of stuff, unfortunately
Speaker 1: due and it's trying to come out of it on
Speaker 1: the other side. But it's definitely taking him a minute.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this, So it was
Speaker 1: prime Britain Fraser. I will say that, although I will
Speaker 1: say he was one of my first questions, not because
Speaker 1: of this movie, but because of movies like Incino Man
Speaker 1: and School Ties. Those two movies are the one things
Speaker 1: that made him for me. That's so great. I've never
Speaker 1: seen any of this, but I know the image like
Speaker 1: on the cover. So yeah. In Sino Man, my friend
Speaker 1: and I in high school we memorized that movie. We
Speaker 1: know all of everything to do with that movie. We
Speaker 1: even got the soundtrack to that movie. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: really into it. Oh wow, Oh yes, whoa. I know
Speaker 1: I've spoken before about my my New Year's tradition on
Speaker 1: this show whereight I very specifically choose the last movie
Speaker 1: I want to end a year on in the first
Speaker 1: movie I want to start the New year on. And
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I was in South Africa
Speaker 1: for work over New Year's and the last movie I
Speaker 1: saw was The New Mummy with Tom Cruise on the plane.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was not good. It was bad, bad, bad,
Speaker 1: bad movie to go out on. So when I got home,
Speaker 1: the first movie I watched in the New Year was
Speaker 1: the nineteen versions. It never had a desire to see
Speaker 1: the Tom Cruise version because I was like, what is
Speaker 1: this trying to make something that was like, yes, action filled,
Speaker 1: but also fun to just action watch Tom Cruise get
Speaker 1: hurt and hurt things. Okay, cool? Yeah yeah. And I
Speaker 1: mean the ending was pretty weird too, because they were
Speaker 1: trying to set up that whole like the new Universal
Speaker 1: Monster series. So it's like, clearly meant to be a series,
Speaker 1: but you just knew it probably wasn't gonna happen, so
Speaker 1: what yeah yeah, And also when The Mummy too, the
Speaker 1: Mummy returns, I keep saying, Mommy Returns. Let me get
Speaker 1: correct that when that came out, that there was this
Speaker 1: website for the movie, which I actually after we watched
Speaker 1: You've Got Mail, I got really into that for a minute,
Speaker 1: remembering those like old Remember when movies would come out,
Speaker 1: they would have these like websites and you can play
Speaker 1: games on them and stuff. Well, the Mummy Returns had
Speaker 1: one where you could see what you were. You would
Speaker 1: take this test in it would tell you what you
Speaker 1: were in a past life. And I got dune beetle,
Speaker 1: and I've never forgotten it. I have never forgotten it.
Speaker 1: I see. I mean, you've come out on top. That's
Speaker 1: the good news, I guess. So you're not a dune beetle. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: Proud of you, Thank you, Thank you, Samantha. I have
Speaker 1: not a doug beetle. You're not a dung beetle. Proud
Speaker 1: of you. Thanks for being here about Yes, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Mummy and all the dung beetles. So the
Speaker 1: Mummy is a nineteen ninety nine, twenty two years old
Speaker 1: we are old American adventure movie and remake of the
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two film. And it starts, Yes, Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: and Rachel Weiss, and it's written and directed by Stephen Summers.
Speaker 1: Apparently there were all kinds of issues while they filmed
Speaker 1: it in Morocco, like snakes and sandstorms and yeah no
Speaker 1: thank you, but I think that's also how they play
Speaker 1: into the ride. But when the movie came out, it
Speaker 1: was a financial success, which is why we have three
Speaker 1: of them. The credits were so so on it, but
Speaker 1: the audience obviously, like us, really love it. Do you
Speaker 1: know there's like a cartoon series two, so is there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stun I think it is something
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen some series came out, So yeah, people
Speaker 1: really really dug it. It's funny because a lot of
Speaker 1: reviews I was reading of it, like recent reviews said,
Speaker 1: you know, the c g I isn't great, but it
Speaker 1: holds up. I think it holds up pretty There's clearly
Speaker 1: this is obviously for the first one, Scorpie King is
Speaker 1: like notoriously one of the worst c g I things ever.
Speaker 1: But in this one. Yeah, so the plot I could again,
Speaker 1: I could just quote the whole movie. I could do
Speaker 1: the sound effects, I could do it all. But I
Speaker 1: know that you don't want it, so I won't. It
Speaker 1: opens in ancient Egypt, and we learned that an Ox
Speaker 1: in the Moon the Fair his mistress, is having an
Speaker 1: affair with its high priest Emo Tep, who spoiler alert
Speaker 1: is the Mummy. On one of their forbidden praise the
Speaker 1: pharaoh catches them making out and they both kill him.
Speaker 1: The guards are hammering down the door to get in,
Speaker 1: so an ox in the Moon convinces Emotep to leave,
Speaker 1: telling him to use his abilities to resurrect her. So
Speaker 1: he does uh and before the guards can arrest her,
Speaker 1: an ox in the Moon kills herself, Emotep and his
Speaker 1: presteeler body and take it to the lost City of
Speaker 1: the Dead Hamlinatra. Emotup begins the ritual to bring her back,
Speaker 1: but is interrupted by the Magi, who are the pharaoh's
Speaker 1: bodyguards before he can complete the ritual. So as punishment
Speaker 1: for this, Emo Tep is sentenced to the Honda, which
Speaker 1: is a punishment so horrific it's never been used before. Basically,
Speaker 1: he's mommified alive, his tongue has cut out, He's wrapped
Speaker 1: tightly in bandages, put it in a sarcophagus, and buried
Speaker 1: alive with those flesh eating beatles. A curse is placed
Speaker 1: on him too, for good measure that if he's ever
Speaker 1: brought back, he would unleash the seven plagues of Egypt
Speaker 1: and you know, like destroy everything. So to top it off,
Speaker 1: the Magi are sworn to guard him to make sure
Speaker 1: no one brings him back. So cut to the early
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, American Ric O'Connell played by Brendan Fraser leading
Speaker 1: some soldiers in the midst the battle at the sites
Speaker 1: of the ruins of how A Naptra. He also meets
Speaker 1: his Weasley acquaintance Benny. We all know, Benny, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get yours. And as the battle goes on, Rick realizes
Speaker 1: that's something supernatural going on, warning him away, and he
Speaker 1: makes off into the desert under observation of the Magi.
Speaker 1: Then we jump to and we meet e V played
Speaker 1: by Rachel Weiss, who is the daughter of famous Egyptologists.
Speaker 1: She's a librarian, but she wants to follow in her
Speaker 1: parents footsteps. However, as maybe opens, she has once again
Speaker 1: been rejected by the prestigious Bimverge scholars, and she has
Speaker 1: one of the best worst intros ever in my opinion.
Speaker 1: While she's precariously balanced on a ladder trying to replace
Speaker 1: a book on the top shelf. The ladder falls into
Speaker 1: the shelves and it's a domino effect knocking over all
Speaker 1: these huge shelves of books just go askew. There's papers everywhere,
Speaker 1: so good. Then we meet her screwp brother, Jonathan, who
Speaker 1: shows her an ancient key he quote found akse tool Jonathan.
Speaker 1: It takes EVI to a jail to meet the person
Speaker 1: who stole it from, because she recognizes immediately like this
Speaker 1: might be something special. And of course he stole it
Speaker 1: from none other than Rick O'Connell, who is scheduled to
Speaker 1: be hanged. O'Connell promises to take them to Hominoptra if
Speaker 1: they can secure his release, and this is after he
Speaker 1: grabs EV's face and kisses her. Of course, she's able
Speaker 1: to cut a deal with the warden and O'Connell is
Speaker 1: freed in the nick of time. So if they go
Speaker 1: to Homonatra. You know, so they introduced Alex in the
Speaker 1: second one, Yeah, the kid by having the domino face
Speaker 1: with the pillars, you know, they link a little bit.
Speaker 1: So our intrepid crew sets off for Heminaptra and and
Speaker 1: Evie is taken, of course with O'Connell's new cleaned up
Speaker 1: look as would I be. On their way, they encounter
Speaker 1: a group of cockey Americans. Those those nasty Americans as
Speaker 1: also making their way to Haminatra. Would the cut with
Speaker 1: the help of O'Connell's old front of me Biddy as
Speaker 1: a vis ruminating about the kiss between her and O'Connell.
Speaker 1: The boat they're on actually get attacked by members of
Speaker 1: the Magi, which they don't want. They're not aware of
Speaker 1: who they are, and they make a narrow escape, switching
Speaker 1: over to Cable's and it's the O'Connell's turn to be
Speaker 1: impressed with Evie's new clothes and looks right. So as
Speaker 1: the sun rises, Homnachra is revealed like no longer these ruins,
Speaker 1: but fully restored, and these groups race to the Americans,
Speaker 1: and our heroes race to Homonatra to see you can
Speaker 1: get there first, and Evie with yeah. After few run
Speaker 1: ins with the Americans, you know, like O'Connell stole some tools,
Speaker 1: they get to ev They fought over dig site. Ev
Speaker 1: realizes that they can go underneath the Americans and dig
Speaker 1: up through there to beat them to This book that
Speaker 1: they both want this berry. There are this treasure that
Speaker 1: they both want this berry there, so while doing so,
Speaker 1: they find a sarcophagus of a still quote juicy mummy.
Speaker 1: The Americans, on the other hand, find the Book of
Speaker 1: the Dead after setting off a booby trap protecting it,
Speaker 1: and they also find some ancient jars holding organs, which
Speaker 1: they divide amongst themselves. Big mistake. And this is where
Speaker 1: one of my most quoted lines of all time. Check
Speaker 1: over on movie Krush wants asked me, like, what's a
Speaker 1: movie thing you say a lot that you think no
Speaker 1: one gets. It's this beware of like us. And every
Speaker 1: time she says that, she said in that manner exactly, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then exactly and then you can't see her, but
Speaker 1: she's definitely doing the fist of the air. Yes, she
Speaker 1: does that every time as well. Just go ahead and
Speaker 1: that so yeah, then that g I attacked their camp.
Speaker 1: They're back to warn them away, giving them a day
Speaker 1: to leave. The ward dies by the way by a
Speaker 1: scara beetle because it goes inside of his skin, drives
Speaker 1: him mad and he runs into a wall with his
Speaker 1: head first. So you know, Evie gets really drunk and
Speaker 1: flirts with Rick while who of course flirts back, and
Speaker 1: also a great line quote you're wondering, what is a
Speaker 1: place like me doing a girl like this? Of course,
Speaker 1: but then she passes out right as she's about to
Speaker 1: kiss him, and he does the okay, And the following
Speaker 1: night Evie steals the book because she can't help it,
Speaker 1: which is the Book of the Dead from the Americans.
Speaker 1: And he's a professor, right, he's not an American though,
Speaker 1: who is? He's English, He's he's an Egyptologist. He's English,
Speaker 1: so there's like one non American Indiana. He knows what
Speaker 1: he's going forward is for the same like intellectual properties
Speaker 1: as where they're all looking for treasure. And she has
Speaker 1: the key uh and uses it to open it, and
Speaker 1: she dumbly reads it out loud accidentally bring him back.
Speaker 1: Imo tip, Yes, good job. Chaos and us locust the
Speaker 1: sense on them scare beetles, swarm people and stripped them
Speaker 1: of their flesh. Evie falls down a trick passage where
Speaker 1: she sees the shambling mummy who called her a nux
Speaker 1: on a moon, and Rick finds her. She was in
Speaker 1: the face, but as they flee, they don't see him
Speaker 1: rise back up and then, by the way, right before
Speaker 1: the mummy takes the eyes of one of the Americans
Speaker 1: for his itself. Yeah, and just just note in case
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this, at this point, he's like a mummy,
Speaker 1: like there's skin hanging off of him. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just like a corpse walking around. And yeah, this part
Speaker 1: with the American where he takes the eyes. Friends of
Speaker 1: mine that have glasses or have trouble seeing, they always
Speaker 1: tell me the scene is terrifying because he breaks his
Speaker 1: glasses down in the dark tombs and he can't see him.
Speaker 1: He sees this shape and thinks that somebody's gonna help him,
Speaker 1: and then it's some mommy, he takes his eyes right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say that except last night and then watched
Speaker 1: it again and I was like, but wait, his glasses
Speaker 1: are way too thin, especially way back when, because I
Speaker 1: have horrible eyesight, and y'all, when I say I have
Speaker 1: to get those special duty glasses where it thins them out,
Speaker 1: it's literally hundreds of dollars to make it thinner, because
Speaker 1: if not, I would have the bottle of cat glasses.
Speaker 1: There's no way his hout sight was that bad. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when they turned to is a point of views, like
Speaker 1: there's no way it was that bad. Like he may
Speaker 1: have had trouble seek for sure, but it would have
Speaker 1: been that bad. Those glasses were way too thin. Maybe
Speaker 1: his night vision there was nothing about night vision on
Speaker 1: those glasses, and he couldn't have seen in the first place.
Speaker 1: That's true, That's what I saw. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: because I'm so aware, like I just recently bought some
Speaker 1: war glasses and I had to pay an extra fee
Speaker 1: to make it not you know, bottom of like it's
Speaker 1: really sad yea anyway, but yeah, so I just I
Speaker 1: think he's his asset was not as bad as I
Speaker 1: love this. I love when you see a movie with
Speaker 1: anybody with certain profession and after they leave there like, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It's definitely like anything see what
Speaker 1: the social work involved or in like school law and
Speaker 1: when i'm you know, juvenile detention stuff. But that's not
Speaker 1: how that goes, but you know whatever. By the way,
Speaker 1: when this is all happening, he stumbles on Benny, who
Speaker 1: can speak Manya languages and starts praying to every god
Speaker 1: there is, and Window says, oh, you're speaking the language
Speaker 1: of my slaves. He assumes that he could, you know,
Speaker 1: serve him, and so promises been he a fortune if
Speaker 1: he helps the Mummy regenerate, which of course involves killing
Speaker 1: all the Americans and retrieving the jars. And because he
Speaker 1: is Benny, he says, of course, yes, yes, please, let's
Speaker 1: do this. Yes, yes, So now the Mummy and has
Speaker 1: got a little psychic Benny a henchman. Now that's better.
Speaker 1: So Evie refuses to leave. Like they fled the scene
Speaker 1: and they're back in the city. They're back in Cairo,
Speaker 1: I believe, but there like, Evie refuses to leave until
Speaker 1: she can put a stop to the curse, despite Rick's
Speaker 1: attempts to convince her otherwise. Um and more and more
Speaker 1: of the plagues are starting up. The water turns into blood.
Speaker 1: They're slaves in the sky. Darkness descends, even though it's
Speaker 1: the middle of the day. The Mummy arrives, kills one
Speaker 1: of the Americans, kisses Evie while she is asleep, again,
Speaker 1: calling her an ox in a moon. Rick arrives and
Speaker 1: scares him away with a cat, because you know cats
Speaker 1: regardings the underworld in Egyptian mythology, and the group meets
Speaker 1: up with a member of the magi artist Bay and
Speaker 1: the egyptologist at the library Evie works at, who also
Speaker 1: works with the magi and they realized that the Mummy
Speaker 1: is planning on using ev as a sacrifice to bring
Speaker 1: back his beloved an oxon a Moon. Ev is able
Speaker 1: to correct a mistranslation to learn the location of the
Speaker 1: Book of the Living, which should be enough to destroy
Speaker 1: the Mummy, and it's a Bimbage scholar mistranslation, so that's
Speaker 1: a powerful moment. But the Bummy corners them after killing
Speaker 1: all the Americans and fully regenerating himself, so now he
Speaker 1: looks human, and Evie agrees to go with him in
Speaker 1: order to save the rest of the group. Right, So
Speaker 1: Rick and Jonathan and the Magi art at Bay Sexy
Speaker 1: self made their way to Hamanaptra, fight their way through
Speaker 1: the Mummy, fight priests a half, resurrected a sun of Moon,
Speaker 1: and the Mummy himself, and succeed in killing him thanks
Speaker 1: largely to Evie's wits, and escape the collapsing city. Of course,
Speaker 1: then Rick and Evie kiss after they're like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't get anything out of that. That didn't get
Speaker 1: any treasures, and Rick says, oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: And they right off happily ever after, of course, until
Speaker 1: the second one of comes roight. Yeah, that's always a
Speaker 1: funny thing when a movie and so happily after ever
Speaker 1: but then you know there's a sequel, so you're like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I give it sometimes, yeah, sometimes. And I just wanted
Speaker 1: to put it in here because every time I watched this,
Speaker 1: I think that this Even as a kid, I remember
Speaker 1: like Evie's armpits were so well shaved, and I was like,
Speaker 1: did women do that back then or did they get
Speaker 1: that close? Like I don't know, but every time that
Speaker 1: sticks out to me, that's true. All right. So that's
Speaker 1: the Mummy, And now I guess we should talk about
Speaker 1: The Mummy Returns, the Mummy Too. But first let's pas
Speaker 1: for a quick break for word from our sponsor, and
Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsoring. Okay, So, yes, the Mummy
Speaker 1: Too or the Mummy Returns as it's actually, honestly, I
Speaker 1: love all of the Mummy movies. I know they're not great,
Speaker 1: not all of them are winners, but yes, I love them.
Speaker 1: And I just really wanted to make any watch this
Speaker 1: because she refuses to do so, and honestly, I would
Speaker 1: have chosen to do the third one too, but I
Speaker 1: thought it maybe too much for her to handle, so
Speaker 1: I gave gave it up. But I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: Russell long Gently and Michelle Yow. There's some of my
Speaker 1: favorite actors and I really do love who they are
Speaker 1: and the fact that they are part of this franchise too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and okay, So Samantha was very adamant that we watched this,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually not even sure why I'm so resistant
Speaker 1: to it, but so I watched it last night. I
Speaker 1: kept putting it off and putting it off, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I guess I'd better watch it. And
Speaker 1: then after it was over, I checked the outline and yeah,
Speaker 1: we so this was happening. We're recording it the day after.
Speaker 1: And I had a moment because Samantha hadn't added anything
Speaker 1: to the outline about the money returns, where I thought
Speaker 1: she had played a prank on me and tricked me
Speaker 1: into watching it, and I was like oorried by the
Speaker 1: way it was done. But I did have a moment
Speaker 1: of like, what if I just deleted all that part
Speaker 1: she put it in about the mommy too and just
Speaker 1: moved on, I would have been furious. So, like last night.
Speaker 1: I was fuming, even though for all I knew you
Speaker 1: were going to we were going to talk about it,
Speaker 1: but even the possibility, right, it would have been a
Speaker 1: good break. But fortunately for everyone around, it's not a prank.
Speaker 1: And yes, we are going to talk about it very
Speaker 1: briefly though, because we are mainly going to focus on
Speaker 1: the original. But I just had to put a very
Speaker 1: quick SYNOPSI so we can all bask in this glory
Speaker 1: of the sequel. Sure, all right, So like the first movie,
Speaker 1: we have the opening scene that begins with a legend
Speaker 1: of the Legend of the Scorpion King played by the
Speaker 1: one and only the Rock, Dwayne at the Rock Johnson,
Speaker 1: who I believe this is one of his first acting Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I that was one of the first things I
Speaker 1: texted Samantha last night was while the acting is, he's
Speaker 1: improved a lot, I'll say. And yeah, So he the
Speaker 1: Scorpion King became the Scorpion King by giving his soul
Speaker 1: to the god A knew this, who takes him after
Speaker 1: giving him victory over his enemies with the help of
Speaker 1: his armies. So there's just like the Scorpion King will
Speaker 1: rise again with the army of the dead thing, and
Speaker 1: then we cut to the O'Connell's Vicken Evelyn Evie with
Speaker 1: their son Alex, and yeah, there's still getting into mischief
Speaker 1: by digging up things they shouldn't. Yeah, archaeologists that keep
Speaker 1: taking things up, and it is really funny because it
Speaker 1: plays on the whole how many mummies and dead armies
Speaker 1: and things can we raise? And they seem to have
Speaker 1: just accepted this, I guess. So they discover a new treasure,
Speaker 1: the very slid of a new Bosh, which is a
Speaker 1: huge mistake. And as they discover it, they also learned
Speaker 1: that there's a trap that for anyone who removes it
Speaker 1: too late. Did they see the inscription saying like, don't
Speaker 1: open this warning you? And we cut do like waters
Speaker 1: from the nile rushing into their dig site where they
Speaker 1: almost drowned, but by chance, their son, who is trying
Speaker 1: to protect the site from some shady thieves, breaks through
Speaker 1: the wall, releasing them. And yeah, that's the pillar scene.
Speaker 1: That's very reminiscent of how we meet Evie in the
Speaker 1: first one, right, and poor kid, I really like him,
Speaker 1: but his acting is on par with the rock as well.
Speaker 1: Just go in with that out there all the while
Speaker 1: ev is having visions as if she was present during
Speaker 1: the time of parah I was able to know where
Speaker 1: everything is mysteriously as if she's been there before. Cut two,
Speaker 1: we see crew of the Bad Guys and digging up
Speaker 1: the mummy Imo Tep and the crew was led by
Speaker 1: the reincarnation of Emmo Tep's love, a Nux on a moon,
Speaker 1: who like a v is able to know where things
Speaker 1: are without being there before. And of course they bring
Speaker 1: him back to life and tried to retreat the bracelet
Speaker 1: from the O'Connell's so that Emo Tip can have command
Speaker 1: the army of a Nubis to take over the world.
Speaker 1: Unbeknowns to all the adults, Alex has actually put the
Speaker 1: bracelet on and started the journey of the Bracelet that
Speaker 1: will lead them to the Scorpion King. Why does everybody
Speaker 1: want to rule the world with these armies? I don't
Speaker 1: want to tell me. Also, just just note faris that
Speaker 1: he is the one that an Oxydo Moon Emotep killed,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the vision's Evis having. Alex is
Speaker 1: then kidnapped by the Mummy and the bad the bad Dudes,
Speaker 1: which lead all of them on a journey to get
Speaker 1: to the location with Scorpion King, and we couldn't have
Speaker 1: a good mummy adventure without magi artist Bay. He returns
Speaker 1: Evie's brother Jonathan Um and this time we had that dirigible.
Speaker 1: Of course I was like, oh my god, flown by
Speaker 1: an old friend of Rix is he and some shrunken
Speaker 1: heads pigmy mummies to the mix. We also discover that
Speaker 1: not only do we have the reincarnation of an Oxida Moon,
Speaker 1: but Princess Nefertiti, which turns out to be Evy from
Speaker 1: a past life who was the daughter of Pharas set Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah again an Oxida Moon and imotup kills him and
Speaker 1: she she witnessed that from like a balcony away and
Speaker 1: she is the protector of the bracelet as well. I
Speaker 1: guess we should also say Rick is apparently some like guardian.
Speaker 1: Meant to look that up, but yeah, somebody he is
Speaker 1: the guardian of He's like part of the magi think. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: some brotherhood of swords because he has a tattoo doo
Speaker 1: as they say, And yeah, this is where my whole
Speaker 1: dumb beetle past life test comes from. So as they
Speaker 1: arrived to get Alex back and try to stop Scorpion King.
Speaker 1: Eb is killed and then brought back to life through
Speaker 1: the Book of the Dead, of course by Alex. She
Speaker 1: fights a Knox in the moon while Rick is fighting
Speaker 1: a really ridiculous looking c g I up the rock
Speaker 1: as a scorpion king. I'm not exaggerating when I say
Speaker 1: this consistently comes up on list of the worst c
Speaker 1: g I at a time, especially from like a big
Speaker 1: budget movie. I think it was like I remember seeing
Speaker 1: this either in the theaters I can't remember, but the
Speaker 1: audible laughter to seeing him come out of the wall
Speaker 1: or the doors or the cave, and we were all like, what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy like appears out of nowhere, that kind of
Speaker 1: top he was ahead of the British Museum and he's
Speaker 1: sort of like top goon. Yeah, he sort of appears,
Speaker 1: and then the Scorpion King rips him into five pieces,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why is what he's got to
Speaker 1: show strength? Yeah, they were trying to They're trying to
Speaker 1: show what you could do with his little scorpion limbs. Again,
Speaker 1: if no one's seen this, this is essentially the rock
Speaker 1: with the scorpion bottom right, he's the top half is
Speaker 1: the rock, but it's all c g I is all
Speaker 1: badly c g I, And at this point in time,
Speaker 1: there's really no excuse about how bad it was. Why
Speaker 1: it was so bad. I'm sure that people working on
Speaker 1: it would argue if you think so, I've seen But
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, like we've seen so much better. Why, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're working things out back then. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, she made the Mummy noise noise. So
Speaker 1: as these fights are going, Evie races in, so does
Speaker 1: the Noxia Moon. See they're kind of loves in this battle,
Speaker 1: although Emo Tep is really throwing Rick under the bus,
Speaker 1: which I get, but yeah, whatever. So Rick is able
Speaker 1: to kill the Scorpion King, and Emo Tep and Rick
Speaker 1: are both like hanging precuriously over this chasm of dead
Speaker 1: soul essentially, and they're trying to pull them the these
Speaker 1: souls are trying to pull Rick in Emo Tip down
Speaker 1: and the whole place is collapsing. Evie runs in and
Speaker 1: saves Rick, while Anoxy the Moon abandoned Inmo Tip and
Speaker 1: Emo Tip is so heartbroken he lets go and presumably dies.
Speaker 1: Who knows. Anyway, they escape, an Oxy Moon gets eaten
Speaker 1: by the scare beetles but Evie and Rick and Jonathan
Speaker 1: all the crew escape via dirigible. Did they ever explain
Speaker 1: how they fixed it and got the gas? He found
Speaker 1: something I shouldn't ask any questions, is he is? He
Speaker 1: came through? Um? Yeah, So they escape and again happily
Speaker 1: ever after until the next one comes along, I guess.
Speaker 1: And there's a third one, And in this one, we're
Speaker 1: not going to talk anything, but I had to mention
Speaker 1: it because I love it so much, just the fact
Speaker 1: that they are now wealthy people. Yeah, and they're no
Speaker 1: longer digging there, now retired, and they're both very bored.
Speaker 1: And yes, Rachel Weiss is no longer there. It is
Speaker 1: now Maria Bellows. So it's not Mummy three but the
Speaker 1: Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, which by away got
Speaker 1: a one star rating. We only talked about the finest films.
Speaker 1: And also twelve percent on Rotten Tomatoes, the lowest we've
Speaker 1: ever hit because Hocus focused in practical magic. We're like, okay,
Speaker 1: twelve percent on that, but three of the Google users
Speaker 1: like it, so hey, hey, okay, sorry. So anyway, all
Speaker 1: of that is say, they kind of jump into a
Speaker 1: new one where Alex becomes an older archaeologist and is
Speaker 1: digging in China and finds the Dragon Emperor and his
Speaker 1: vast army in the Phils. Whatever, I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: do it, but it's fantastic because I do love again
Speaker 1: those Asian actors, and I think they're fantastic and to
Speaker 1: see them for just to split second is delightful. But yes,
Speaker 1: there's a ridiculous in this, like yoh, I don't know
Speaker 1: how Rick O'Connell could possibly beat in combat gently but
Speaker 1: okay the Dragon King who was also magical and knows
Speaker 1: a lot of martial arts, but hey, who cares? Right?
Speaker 1: Who cares? But yes, that one is also a franchise.
Speaker 1: But the Mummy is no longer imotep. They've now moved
Speaker 1: on to China. Kind of finished as this child a
Speaker 1: little bit, but whatever, still a delight to me, a
Speaker 1: delight and worth one watch. But I'm not a second
Speaker 1: one to talk about. But I just have to throw
Speaker 1: that in there. Yeah, I've only seen it once and
Speaker 1: the only part I early remember is when it zooms
Speaker 1: in on should be Rachel Vice and it's like it's
Speaker 1: like I'm a whole new person or something. Her line
Speaker 1: an English an American actor with not great English accent
Speaker 1: say she's a whole new person, which is true. That
Speaker 1: was one thing I noticed when I watched The Mummy Returns,
Speaker 1: because I think I've seen that like two or three
Speaker 1: times before, but it's been I mean since it came out.
Speaker 1: It was it was like a classic action sequel in
Speaker 1: the sense that everything was way bigger. And Rick O'Connell,
Speaker 1: like I love him, but he was doing things where
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, you've really up to your game.
Speaker 1: You caught the knife like over here, you're doing all
Speaker 1: kinds of stunts. I'm very impressed. But right, and also
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about the side of the
Speaker 1: there was a whole franchise of The Scorpion King. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Oh boy. That was also a one and
Speaker 1: done for me. But if you're looking for a laugh,
Speaker 1: the Scorpion King. So all right, now that we've gone
Speaker 1: through the plots of these and we didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about some themes, but first we're gonna fausse for
Speaker 1: one more quick for word from responsor and we're back.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Sponsored. So I did want to put a
Speaker 1: disclaimer in here that maybe I should have put it
Speaker 1: at the top, but whatever, neither of these movies, or
Speaker 1: I guess none of these movies if we're going to count.
Speaker 1: The third one would be a movie that pops into
Speaker 1: my head if somebody asked me, like, name a feminist movie.
Speaker 1: Like if I was trying to list feminist movies, I
Speaker 1: might get to the Mommy, but it would be way, way,
Speaker 1: way way down the list. But then, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I have some trouble thinking of feminist movies when people
Speaker 1: ask me. So I don't know, but it's definitely not
Speaker 1: something that I would come to mind for me until
Speaker 1: the listener suggested it. The first one doesn't pass the
Speaker 1: Bechdel test, I don't think. I don't think the second
Speaker 1: one does either. Not that that's the end all be
Speaker 1: all of feminist movies, but of note, um, and there
Speaker 1: are definitely some problematic things in all of them, but
Speaker 1: there are some excellent feminist elements to particularly in the
Speaker 1: character of Evie. So let's start with her, and I'll
Speaker 1: be focusing on the first one. So Evie is a
Speaker 1: really competent, smart, funny, determined, adventurous, charming, and decisive character.
Speaker 1: Most of the plans she comes up with them on
Speaker 1: her own, quickly, and under pressure. I also really appreciate
Speaker 1: as she's just sort of she's really quick to anger
Speaker 1: or to be happy, like she's just yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: fiery or so, I don't know. I like it. She
Speaker 1: is feminine in a dress and with her long hair,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't hold her back. She still has a
Speaker 1: lot of agency and in a flip, her brother Jonathan
Speaker 1: is the mess up in their family. Although it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny because, especially in the beginning, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's this vibe where I guess she thinks she's the
Speaker 1: screwup in the family, but compared to Jonathan, she's definitely not.
Speaker 1: Evie is the one that gets to I'm notch at first.
Speaker 1: She's the one that I had to stop the mummy
Speaker 1: after she brought him back, but she accepts her fault
Speaker 1: in that she's the one to correctly translate something from
Speaker 1: the Bembage scholars that that they had messed up, and
Speaker 1: this is all after they consistently rejected her. She's the
Speaker 1: one that helps Jonathan translate an Egyptian inscription that saves them,
Speaker 1: and this is while she's being attacked and strangled by
Speaker 1: an ox Sooner moons mummified half alive corpse. You know,
Speaker 1: there's that distracting And I love her reaction when Jonathan
Speaker 1: accidentally drops the Book of the Living into that pool
Speaker 1: and as the city is collapsing, she stops and it's like,
Speaker 1: what have you done? They have to drag her away
Speaker 1: because she's just so passionate about these things. She's a scholar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Evie generally serves as the leader of the group. Obviously,
Speaker 1: she's the one that that's like, we need to go
Speaker 1: dig here instead of here, Let's do this this way.
Speaker 1: And Rick is the muscle, you know. Even in the
Speaker 1: second one, she does the same thing. She leads them
Speaker 1: towards they need to go, and she's like, here, you know,
Speaker 1: start working. And then he uses the bigger tools because
Speaker 1: of course he's something and he's comfortable in that position
Speaker 1: and comfortable following her lead. The only time Rick takes
Speaker 1: the lead is during physical situations or obviously when Evie's
Speaker 1: not there, and he he pretty much listens to her
Speaker 1: and trust her, follows her lead without complaint, and when
Speaker 1: they do disagree or argue, they do as equals. So
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, yeah, And I mean it is funny
Speaker 1: because she is the leader and often, especially in the
Speaker 1: second one, which again I hadn't seen a very long time,
Speaker 1: but he's like, are you do we have to do this?
Speaker 1: And she's like, she's just so adventurous and passionate about
Speaker 1: these things, and he's kind of resigned to Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess. And I would argue that the first movie
Speaker 1: especially is driven by her, and Rick just follows her.
Speaker 1: I think she You could make a good argument that
Speaker 1: she's the main character. At the very least. They kind
Speaker 1: of share that role of main characters. Um and even
Speaker 1: when Evie is the damsel in distress in the in
Speaker 1: the first one, it is by choice to give the
Speaker 1: group the best chance of success. She's not the passive victim.
Speaker 1: She is not cowed during her imprisonment. She does use
Speaker 1: her femininity to kiss Imo Tep and distract him from
Speaker 1: killing her friends. She threatens in box Binny, which I
Speaker 1: do love. That seems she's like always He's like, no, no.
Speaker 1: She helps her brother translate the inscription while she's being attacked,
Speaker 1: and she's the one that reads the passage that renders
Speaker 1: the Mummy as mortal and allows Rick to kill him. Right.
Speaker 1: And then the second one, they do blame her for
Speaker 1: killing Mo Tup and that's why they kidnap her, because
Speaker 1: they won't revenge against her. They could care less about Rick.
Speaker 1: They obviously blame her, as they should, as well as
Speaker 1: the fact that when you look at the second one
Speaker 1: is her and a Naxana Moon, who are the protectors
Speaker 1: of pretty much the realm, whether it's the racelet or
Speaker 1: the Pharaoh. They protect and they are chosen to protect
Speaker 1: and fight, So it's kind of interesting to ticket that.
Speaker 1: And and yes, she actually gets to fight a little
Speaker 1: bit in this one where she has some sword play
Speaker 1: and play. It was size even of course it was
Speaker 1: very obvious it wasn't her during those scenes. Was still
Speaker 1: nice to think on um and of golf. Of course,
Speaker 1: we could also talk about the constant use of white
Speaker 1: women with dark hair for characters like Nepfortini and Cleopatra,
Speaker 1: but that's a whole other conversation because she's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a lineage of that in English as well, from
Speaker 1: what I understood from the first one, right, her mother
Speaker 1: was Egyptian and her father was English. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: whatever they know, we know all know. This has to
Speaker 1: be a stretch to tie things together perfectly. To bring
Speaker 1: it to one. But yes, in both movies that she
Speaker 1: also saves Rick, whether she saved him from the gallows
Speaker 1: or she saves him from the pen of hell obviously,
Speaker 1: so she is the hero in both of these things.
Speaker 1: They also still follow her footsteps in the second one,
Speaker 1: and she even has her maternal instincts as a drive
Speaker 1: and a push for this one as well to get
Speaker 1: her son back. So yeah, you know, she she's the
Speaker 1: main character. I would agree with that. Yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: think so. She's the leader for sure, absolutely. And I
Speaker 1: did wanna talk about the relationship aspect between ev and Rick,
Speaker 1: because Rick is clearly attracted to more than just her looks,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunately kind of rare in these adventure action
Speaker 1: adventure movies. He gives her the tools that he stole
Speaker 1: because he knows that she's passionate about what she does
Speaker 1: and good at what she does, and he wants her
Speaker 1: to be able to lead them and find what she
Speaker 1: wants to find. And Rick doesn't pursue romance with her
Speaker 1: like most male characters from these adventure movies do. Um,
Speaker 1: he isn't showing off for her. He's just kind of
Speaker 1: this consistent, capable, respectful kind tender and in the way
Speaker 1: that he follows her and respects her. Um. That's really
Speaker 1: allowed in male characters in this genre. Um. And also
Speaker 1: you do see, like as we mentioned when we were
Speaker 1: doing the symnopsis, you see Eve kind of pining after him,
Speaker 1: which is rare to like normally, it's just like it's
Speaker 1: the guy's perspective and he and she's just over the
Speaker 1: moon about him and so smitten with him, and it's
Speaker 1: very one dimensional. But in this she's like, it's equally.
Speaker 1: You can tell that they're both charmed equally by each other,
Speaker 1: which is nice and yeah, pretty pretty rare for this
Speaker 1: genre really, especially at that time, right. And it does
Speaker 1: continue in the second one. You do see them build
Speaker 1: on that, on this trust and uh like loving and
Speaker 1: care and being on this equal ground and having their
Speaker 1: like areas of expertise right where they trust that their
Speaker 1: partner to handle this part of it or this part
Speaker 1: of it, and the very accepting of each other, I
Speaker 1: would say, right, I think, yeah, in the second one,
Speaker 1: you definitely see the relationship of them compromising because they
Speaker 1: do still go on adventures. They do go on dangerous
Speaker 1: site digging, but she gives in by saying let's not
Speaker 1: go to the next one now, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: stay here. And of course they also have to add
Speaker 1: that the Bembridge scholars have been begging her of course
Speaker 1: for them now, so that did equal out. We do
Speaker 1: get to see all of that. You see the conversations
Speaker 1: they have as parents, but at the same time still
Speaker 1: being madly in love. So of course they have the
Speaker 1: one up that one as well, so it is good
Speaker 1: to see that type of relationship. We also see Jonathan
Speaker 1: still being a rake, as they would say, I've been
Speaker 1: watching Bridger danni'all. It's is sleeping that language is sleeping in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you see that as well, and I
Speaker 1: found that really of course on par like with everything else,
Speaker 1: his greed and his playboy acting, I guess. But it
Speaker 1: is also fun to see their relationships still intact and
Speaker 1: him being pretty childish still and them kind of taking
Speaker 1: care of him. Yeah, troublemaker for sure, and I did.
Speaker 1: I did appreciate that you get to see Evie and
Speaker 1: Rick separately as being I would say, good parents are
Speaker 1: very caring parents, like protective, so you do like it's
Speaker 1: kind of understood often that you're going to see the
Speaker 1: mother and those maternal instincts, but you did with Rick.
Speaker 1: You really saw him being protective and the paternal protective
Speaker 1: instincts too, so that was nice. And yeah, you do
Speaker 1: have the comparison of because this whole thing starts with
Speaker 1: a Knox, Suda Moon and Amo Tep trying to be together,
Speaker 1: although I guess now after the second one you could
Speaker 1: argue that Anoxia Moon really wanted power and ultimately and
Speaker 1: that moment and the end of the second one where
Speaker 1: Evie and Anoxiner Moon are watching there, their husband's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm anox Moon is married Tomoti,
Speaker 1: but you know, lovers in danger and Evie decides to
Speaker 1: save Rick and Anoximon flees. I always thought that part
Speaker 1: was interesting, that there's like which one is the true
Speaker 1: love and that you, you know, you still have this
Speaker 1: sort of an Oxymon throughout is kind of painted as
Speaker 1: this power player who's got something else going on, which
Speaker 1: is pretty common among female villains. Right. The thing is,
Speaker 1: like the first one, she was not the villain. She
Speaker 1: was definitely someone you felt sorry for because we don't see.
Speaker 1: What we don't see is that the pharaoh is kind
Speaker 1: of evil, like he keeps her as a slave essentially,
Speaker 1: like he calls her protector and we talked about that.
Speaker 1: But essentially she has no choice because we know that
Speaker 1: her body paint is to show her purity, that she
Speaker 1: would only be touched by him, and so she was
Speaker 1: in love with another man. So it's kind of a
Speaker 1: sad story in itself, but at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: don't become a mommy and kill everyone else the moral
Speaker 1: of the story. That's not cool. The moral of the story.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think we could end on that. Thanks
Speaker 1: again to the listener who suggested this and the blood
Speaker 1: post lean in Reddress. I know that that blog post
Speaker 1: was written after another podcast really tore into this movie
Speaker 1: for not being feminist, So we're just presenting a different
Speaker 1: point of view. We know it's not the most feminist.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not the most feminist, but it is enjoyable
Speaker 1: and there are some things to take away from for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and like I said at the top, Evie
Speaker 1: still holds up. Evie is still a pretty great character.
Speaker 1: So if you haven't seen it, we highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: Samantha recommends the other two as well. Go for it.
Speaker 1: Just go ahead and enjoy it. Enjoy I get your
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