Speaker 1: And here he is America's favorite phase on Donald's Faison.
Speaker 1: What were you guys just talking about? We were talking
Speaker 1: about Oculus, but I don't want to talk about it
Speaker 1: anymore because we already gave them a seven minute ad today,
Speaker 1: did we give Okay, we can talk about it a
Speaker 1: little bit. Joelle tried. Joelle tried to gain the paint game. Joelle,
Speaker 1: howd it go? It was so cool. I really liked
Speaker 1: the star like thing. That was great. You can't see
Speaker 1: stars where I live in Los Angeles, but I'm from
Speaker 1: the country. We used to live where the corn grows,
Speaker 1: and I missed stars, and so I just spent like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and there just stargazing. And then I found
Speaker 1: out you could get like a dress bust, you know
Speaker 1: where they like pin all the clothes to it so
Speaker 1: that you can like design clothes with the light in
Speaker 1: different textures they have. So I made pretty dresses for
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes. Oh, I didn't know you could make
Speaker 1: make clothes. I gotta try that. Fun as hell. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, walking around in your own like design and
Speaker 1: some of the colors were like flash and do like
Speaker 1: pretty rainbow things. It's very if you were a Lisa
Speaker 1: Frank person. Enjoy this app. You can be your own
Speaker 1: Lisa Frank. I don't know who Lisa Frank is. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Okay. In the nineties, Lisa Frank made like
Speaker 1: trapper keepers and binders and folders, but they were all
Speaker 1: like neon tigers and elephants and dolphins, and dolphins were huge,
Speaker 1: just beautiful, beautiful stuff. But all the girls in the
Speaker 1: nineties had Lisa Frank binders and such. Oh got it? Hey,
Speaker 1: did you get more Instagram followers because I blew up
Speaker 1: your hot picture that you posted? I did? I think
Speaker 1: maybe a thousand more people, maybe a thousand. Yeah, that's wow,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. I was gonna I was gonna write
Speaker 1: something like, you know, only slide into your DMS if
Speaker 1: you mean business. But then I said, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: not en don't don't do that. Don't do that, don't
Speaker 1: do that. I was worried she'd get dick picks, so
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, let me just censor the uh. I
Speaker 1: don't you know what? You know what's interesting? Do you
Speaker 1: go through like all of your emails Joe my emails? Ye,
Speaker 1: not your emails, your your DMS. I'm sorry when I'll
Speaker 1: scroll through them, because sometimes people have very lovely things
Speaker 1: to say, and they're like, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: reach you. I just want to say, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so nice. Thank you. If you're
Speaker 1: sending me a picture, they're all blurred out. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they say. I can't see them. I don't
Speaker 1: look at them. They're probably there's a couple I've opened
Speaker 1: with you and been like, that's a screwed them and
Speaker 1: I don't want it. And you men, What is it
Speaker 1: with men sending dicks? I mean it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: obviously just the fucking power power thing. But I never understood, like,
Speaker 1: what do they think the responses they're going to get
Speaker 1: from sending a picture of their dick? I want to
Speaker 1: put it in my mouth. They're never gonna get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the one woman in the world
Speaker 1: or man who's responded mm, looks good, then you've ruined
Speaker 1: it for everybody, because people keeping a lot of people
Speaker 1: give me ship for eating popcorn yesterday. I'm sorry, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you edited some of it out, Danel, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had to cut some of it out.
Speaker 1: Some of it was very explicit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, Daniel. What happened to your webcam? Man?
Speaker 1: We don't need It's just it's not working right. I
Speaker 1: want the audience to know. I just want the audience
Speaker 1: to know the dann a very fancy webcam because he's
Speaker 1: missed her a computer guy, and we can't see him
Speaker 1: because it doesn't work. The woman's stream will look better.
Speaker 1: All it says. All it says is image edge webcam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're image I would tell you if you're out in
Speaker 1: the market for webcam, don't get an imaging edge one.
Speaker 1: Hey Daniel, do you want to plug your stream? Since
Speaker 1: I gave Joelle a shout out for for Instagram? What
Speaker 1: what is your streaming? What's your streaming thing? Watch you
Speaker 1: play stream on twitch at twitch dot tv slash dj
Speaker 1: underscore Daniel like my Twitter handle my stream on Wednesdays
Speaker 1: and Sunday nights seven pm onward. And what game do
Speaker 1: you play? Yeah? What game play? Everything? Playing a lot
Speaker 1: of the new season of Fall. Guys. There's a brand
Speaker 1: new GTA five Heist that came out today. I play
Speaker 1: a lot from that. That GTA Heights looks fire, looks
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't played I haven't played gt Granted,
Speaker 1: I haven't played GTA or Red Dead in about a
Speaker 1: year now since I got home and COVID happened. And
Speaker 1: you know, you can't. You can't just immerse yourself in
Speaker 1: these world worlds for hours when you've got you know, eight,
Speaker 1: a seven year old and a five year old running
Speaker 1: round of course. Of course, but there used to be
Speaker 1: a big GTA guy. He was addicted making scrubs. You
Speaker 1: were playing, dude, GTA got to well. I wonder how
Speaker 1: they're gonna address it with the ps what is it
Speaker 1: a five now? Yeah? And the Xbox what is it
Speaker 1: an Xbox, Xbox series X whatever the whatever it is? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's how many there's so many consoles. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to address that because the graphics
Speaker 1: and the fluidity of the original were always fire anyway,
Speaker 1: Like you could do everything and anything in GTA. You
Speaker 1: can fly, you can rob somebody. They even made it
Speaker 1: so you could rob banks and stuff like that. Like
Speaker 1: they it gets to it. It's it's high level, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, scum and villainy. Villainy. However, he's that scum
Speaker 1: and villainy. Yeah, it's high level. How do they address that?
Speaker 1: How do they address that with the new consoles? How
Speaker 1: do they make it? How do you make it more
Speaker 1: realistic than is the question? And and can you make
Speaker 1: it virtual? Like what would be fire for these games
Speaker 1: now is if what's the thing that they had in
Speaker 1: that movie when a boy jumped on a treadmill and
Speaker 1: could run in any direction if you could? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love them first of all that they do. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have things like like I know, they got the best
Speaker 1: I know you put like wheeled sneakers on and you
Speaker 1: and you walk around in this uh circle, rig right, Daniel,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, oh absolutely. What's
Speaker 1: it called? I think it's called like an omni omni track.
Speaker 1: You have like a little wasting that goes around you
Speaker 1: and then it's like a treadmill that just moves in
Speaker 1: any direction. They're very cool. That would be that would
Speaker 1: be a really cool but yeah, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you would That would be really cool if you could
Speaker 1: figure out a way to be actually jump into the
Speaker 1: universe like in Ready Player one. That's next. Obviously we're
Speaker 1: so far away from that. We're something we're that far
Speaker 1: away from it. I mean, just messing around with the
Speaker 1: oculus too. Now I'm seeing we're not far away from it.
Speaker 1: All right, we should get to the show because people
Speaker 1: don't want to hear another long VR conversation. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was. It's just so listen for all of you
Speaker 1: out there, I'm just saying, they've got the PS fives
Speaker 1: and the Xbox whatever it is. But I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that oculus. Man, all right, it's a very special show,
Speaker 1: you know what. Amazing. First of all, it's an amazing show.
Speaker 1: It's I may not know. I did not know how
Speaker 1: emotional I was going to get at the end of this.
Speaker 1: You hit me up and you were like, yo, h
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's it's My screw Up. Yeah. Should
Speaker 1: we have rating on? And immediately I was like, oh, snap,
Speaker 1: we're already yet the rating episode. Well listen, I had
Speaker 1: thought for since we started. Here's the thing about My
Speaker 1: screw Up. It's a lot of people's favorite episodes. It's
Speaker 1: one of the highest ranking episodes in terms of like
Speaker 1: the way they write ranked people, fans ranked things on
Speaker 1: TV dot Com. It's ranked I read it's tied for
Speaker 1: highest with an episode called My Lunch from season five,
Speaker 1: so it is a lot of people's favorite episode. We
Speaker 1: had planned to have Brandon on, We had planned to
Speaker 1: have Johnny on, but you know, between COVID and the
Speaker 1: holidays and our schedules, everything's all fa cocky. So I
Speaker 1: just said to to Donald, why don't we have Josh
Speaker 1: Raiden on? Because Josh Raiden, for those of you don't know,
Speaker 1: wrote the song Winter that plays at the end of
Speaker 1: the show, and that that song launched his entire career.
Speaker 1: It broke him. It broke him literally, it broke him.
Speaker 1: It turned him into the Josh raiding that Listen, Man,
Speaker 1: I remember going to see Josh. Wait, wait, let's save it.
Speaker 1: Let's invite him in, danil is he here? Save bringing in?
Speaker 1: Let's see what he looks like. Oh, funderous applause, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm thunderous. Applause. Joshu will write, Okay, okay, someone's had
Speaker 1: some coffee. Someone's had some coffee. He's barking. This is
Speaker 1: my first podcast. We have, we started, we'd already begune.
Speaker 1: We did a whole we did. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: you on the podcast. It's it's happening, all right, and
Speaker 1: we're back in everybody. We had a very interesting thing
Speaker 1: we edited out trying to educate a professional magician how
Speaker 1: to record himself. Josh, why do you call him a magician?
Speaker 1: Did you just call him a magician a musician? How come, Josh,
Speaker 1: you don't know how to record yourself? I remember called intelligent.
Speaker 1: We're so happy you're here, everybody. So, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: Joshua Raiding is my friend from Northwestern and he also
Speaker 1: he's my friend. He's my friend. I introduced him to
Speaker 1: Donald faz one Vegas trip. That's all it took, even
Speaker 1: before Vegas, though I met in New York. We met
Speaker 1: in New York, Dude, Jeff Sucker, I know we met
Speaker 1: in New York. Josh, you were there that night, back
Speaker 1: when you had a whole other life, man, back before
Speaker 1: you were a musician, back when you were dating another girl.
Speaker 1: Now now you're freaking a freaking I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 1: You're a playboy, dog, You're a true player. You're a
Speaker 1: rock star. Man. Do you know how hard it is
Speaker 1: to be single in a pandemic? Oh? I not feel
Speaker 1: for him, dude, he's doing this all alone. You can't date.
Speaker 1: And then Joel knows you can't date during during COVID
Speaker 1: and die. So yeah, but you could set up so
Speaker 1: much stuff and when COVID's over just played out, you
Speaker 1: can have You got the gift, man, you got the voice,
Speaker 1: and you got the guitar. That is all you need.
Speaker 1: I know, but that should be put on layaway and
Speaker 1: people out there. I'll be like, Okay, I will wait
Speaker 1: until two twenty twenty two to give up somebody's goods.
Speaker 1: One thing to be like laying foundation, Joel. I'm sure
Speaker 1: is laying some foundation, right, Joel, you're flirting too a
Speaker 1: little bit. I got the job done well, but I
Speaker 1: just I get the job done well anyway. So, Josh,
Speaker 1: you met Donald for the first time our infamous Big night.
Speaker 1: Josh was my great friend in New York and then
Speaker 1: I got Scrubs and we went through it all together.
Speaker 1: We went through the life change, right, Josh, I watched
Speaker 1: some pretty hilarious things. Yeah, and Donald Donald and I
Speaker 1: were instantly inseparable, and Josh was there with us through
Speaker 1: many an adventure. Listen, man, we're going to get your
Speaker 1: best friend become famous. Is a is a very interesting thing.
Speaker 1: And vice versa, dude, and vice versa. Oh, I mean
Speaker 1: when I mean when I say famous, I mean the
Speaker 1: kind of famous that we'd walked down the street New
Speaker 1: York and sometimes I would walk like, you know, ten
Speaker 1: feet behind Zach through the city just to watch people
Speaker 1: right after they pass him go, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: was Zach Brath. Oh my god's the guy from Scrubs.
Speaker 1: You know. It was so funny to watch people's reactions
Speaker 1: to see I just do that to myself in real time.
Speaker 1: It was cool just to piggyback on that, you know, Josh,
Speaker 1: at least I could say for myself. I remember going
Speaker 1: to like the hotel cafe or to like you know,
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, just the hotel cafe really and it
Speaker 1: being empty and it just being me, Zach, Mandy Moore,
Speaker 1: and Minka Kelly, and that was it in the in
Speaker 1: the audience watching you perform, and you would go on
Speaker 1: after like some other act and some other act, and
Speaker 1: then it would be just you and you'd get to
Speaker 1: do like three songs, and we'd wait the whole night
Speaker 1: for you to go up and perform. Dude, and that's
Speaker 1: you and now and then so and then so it
Speaker 1: blew my mind. And I'm gonna say this you know,
Speaker 1: it's great that you know, the music was on scrubs
Speaker 1: and everything like that, but there was still struggle after
Speaker 1: the music was on scrubs and people don't really know
Speaker 1: that shit. You know, the song was brought and everything
Speaker 1: like that, but you know, it wasn't like you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like an overnight all of a sudden instant thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's I'm still waiting for
Speaker 1: that big break. Well, Josh, tell everyone, do we ever
Speaker 1: count in? I forgot about six seven, eight stories about Sure,
Speaker 1: we made about a bunch of nurses stories. So gather
Speaker 1: around here, yato around here? Did you guys see that
Speaker 1: Josh Josh Rayden kaijacking the five secres. Usually the guests
Speaker 1: wait for permission, but no Josh. Longtime listeners, Ac tell everyone, actually,
Speaker 1: Josh is one of my few friends. Josh and my
Speaker 1: girlfriend's mom are the only people left in my life
Speaker 1: that's still listen to the podcast. Your mom doesn't listen anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't think my mom. Well, she might, but she
Speaker 1: doesn't mention it. Carrie Brothers mentioned I was on Mark
Speaker 1: Maron's podcast He Like Loved You on Mark Marron's podcast.
Speaker 1: He doesn't bring up this podcast anymore. But Josh Raydon
Speaker 1: often listens when he's hiking, as I understand it, right, Josh,
Speaker 1: I know Johnny still listens to the podcast. Actually cast
Speaker 1: your podcast for the Well, I've told you this, but
Speaker 1: I'll tell your listeners right when the world shut down.
Speaker 1: I live here in la as you guys do, and
Speaker 1: I live up in the hills, and there's all these
Speaker 1: like stone stairs that go through the hills. These secret
Speaker 1: stone stairs that I COVID got me so scared that
Speaker 1: I wanted to get in good cardiovascular shape because obviously
Speaker 1: the better shape you're in for a respiratory disease of yours.
Speaker 1: So I started running up and down these stairs every morning,
Speaker 1: and the podcast was the only thing that got me through. Well,
Speaker 1: that's great. We've had a lot of people say they
Speaker 1: exercised and inspired them, and that makes us very happy.
Speaker 1: I have to see because I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: you guys for so long until we like we formed
Speaker 1: a pod and then I could see you in like
Speaker 1: in our backyards are just our few, you know, tightest friends.
Speaker 1: But it was like I went like a good six weeks,
Speaker 1: seven weeks without seeing one single person, you know, just
Speaker 1: sitting in my house by myself and so listening to
Speaker 1: you guys talk, uh, you know twice a week was
Speaker 1: was just saved my life. Really, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: never talk about that type of stuff, being by yourself
Speaker 1: for six weeks, Josh, other than like, I guess face
Speaker 1: timing and how did you how did you cope with
Speaker 1: that when COVID first hit Joe, Well, you have your
Speaker 1: brother with you, right, yeah, Joel, because her brother Josh
Speaker 1: was totally alone. You were do loo basically. It's it's
Speaker 1: interestingly I finished my European tour. I was mid January
Speaker 1: to mid February this year in a different city in
Speaker 1: Europe every day, like hugging people, shaking hands, you know,
Speaker 1: meeting so many different people every day. Right when COVID
Speaker 1: was kind of like starting, but it wasn't a big
Speaker 1: thing yet, people were like, oh, what's this, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I got really sick for the whole month
Speaker 1: of that tour. I had this weird throat infection. So
Speaker 1: but it was before we knew really what it was,
Speaker 1: and then I finally just got over it. But it
Speaker 1: culminated in Italy in mid February, you know, which was
Speaker 1: one of the Hot Spots Wow, which is one of
Speaker 1: the hots Wow. Right then, I mean I was like,
Speaker 1: I had to postpone a show in Rome because I
Speaker 1: lost my voice and anyway, So I think I had it,
Speaker 1: but I don't really know. Everybody everybody has that story, right,
Speaker 1: everybody has that I think I had it. I don't
Speaker 1: have that. I don't. I don't think I had it.
Speaker 1: But Josh, did you get the anybody test? Or did
Speaker 1: it go away in the editor. I went into our doctor,
Speaker 1: as you know, we share a doctor, and I got
Speaker 1: the antibody's test, but it was like six months later
Speaker 1: and they were He said, we don't even know if
Speaker 1: these tests are going to give a false positive or
Speaker 1: pulse negative. We don't you know, anybody's my only last
Speaker 1: two or three months, you know. So it turns out
Speaker 1: I didn't have them after all that time. But my
Speaker 1: point I was making was that, right, I just finished
Speaker 1: touring this new album, all of it, and I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, I'm gonna go home and sit in my
Speaker 1: house by myself and write a new album and not
Speaker 1: see anyone for like three months, and then it's basically
Speaker 1: going to turn into a year and a half of
Speaker 1: not seeing anyone, but I did when we at least
Speaker 1: folded you into our pods, we can see you, We
Speaker 1: see you. You're gonna come over for Jesus's birthday. That's true,
Speaker 1: and neither one of you. You both are freaking yahweh
Speaker 1: is looking down on YouTube like, no, you're always down
Speaker 1: for us to celebrate a very nice Jewish man's birthday. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: Zach friend is not Jewish, and it is a huge
Speaker 1: Christmas lover and she's very into so we're gonna be
Speaker 1: very supportive of her first Christmas in La. I wanted
Speaker 1: to say that you give up your identity. You hate
Speaker 1: your own people. You two, you hate your own people.
Speaker 1: Josh is skimming over the fact that he didn't just
Speaker 1: get in respiratory shape. He got in the sickest shape
Speaker 1: I've ever seen him in. Yeah he he No, he's
Speaker 1: got the sea gutters, dude, He's got the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, Joe, she s headed, Okay, so what is this?
Speaker 1: I just want to know what is a sea gutter?
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it in front of Joel. Joel,
Speaker 1: can you take your headphones off from the go ahead?
Speaker 1: All right? Joel took her headphones off, it's they call
Speaker 1: him cum gutters and it's under the whoa whoa, under
Speaker 1: the abs right here, like like the v and and theoretically,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry earmums if you're in the car with your kids,
Speaker 1: but it's where the semen would would likely gather like
Speaker 1: a gutter. Okay, so all right, Joe, well put your
Speaker 1: head hold on hold on No no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no it wasn't. You don't necessarily
Speaker 1: have to Okay, she's a grown ass woman. You don't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be in shape to have. Yes, you
Speaker 1: do the kind of I have talking Brad. I'm telling him,
Speaker 1: Brad pennon fight Club, the vait he could catch it
Speaker 1: in all of it. He could catch it there, all
Speaker 1: of it. No, No, we're trading in this podcast. It's
Speaker 1: all just audio. Right, it's just audio. Show us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: show show Josh and show this see those look at
Speaker 1: this ship. Yeah you didn't know that. Donald, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. The last time I saw him he was
Speaker 1: kind of getting into dude. He looks like that now,
Speaker 1: thanks thanks to the podcast. What do you got the peloton? No,
Speaker 1: you got the stairs, you got stay, you got the stairs.
Speaker 1: More than that though you can't just high. I can
Speaker 1: get abs like that dog. He changed his whole diet.
Speaker 1: He changes. I don't know. I don't know where to
Speaker 1: where I would put a peloton in my house. I'd
Speaker 1: have to put it outside. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: do that, because then I could buy you in. Dog.
Speaker 1: What you're eating, you're not eating? He doesn't. He he
Speaker 1: doesn't smoke weed because it gives him munch. You stopped
Speaker 1: smoking weed? Yeah, I've been eating healthy. He's smoking cigarettes. Oh,
Speaker 1: I haven't smoke cigarettes in years. Good Josh was a
Speaker 1: big smoker. And ladies and gentlemen, he is proof that
Speaker 1: a hypnotist can work because he went to a hypnotist
Speaker 1: once and never smoked again. Right, Josh, it you know
Speaker 1: I didn't have a drag of a cigarette after that
Speaker 1: for about ten years. And then I went through a
Speaker 1: bad breakup with my ex girlfriend and started a little
Speaker 1: bit again. And then No, but the hypnotists work. Speaking
Speaker 1: speaking speaking a bad break He probably doesn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about his break. No but speaking a bad breakup.
Speaker 1: Let's just get into the song now, then, Ladies and gentlemen, paperweight, No, No,
Speaker 1: Donald and I have Donald and I share one of
Speaker 1: our favorite Josh Raids songs. We played it on the
Speaker 1: show Paperweight. That's one of our favorites. I remember, thank
Speaker 1: you for doing that. I listened to that episode. Now
Speaker 1: it's in so many movies, man, Josh's music. All right,
Speaker 1: we gotta go back. We're being bad interviewers here, we're
Speaker 1: jumping around. I got distracted by his sea gutters. Now, Josh, Josh,
Speaker 1: tell everyone the story. So, Josh, I mean, because you
Speaker 1: just just give everyone of a cliff notes version of
Speaker 1: your trajectory. Because you were a screenwriter in You're a
Speaker 1: screenwriter in Manhattan. With with you and I were became
Speaker 1: friendly being young aspiring writers in Manhattan. And then just
Speaker 1: give everyone some some some bullet points of what happened
Speaker 1: to you. Well, yeah, I was a struggling screenwriter. I
Speaker 1: had I was waiting tables and doing you know, catering
Speaker 1: gigs and things like that in New York, like starving
Speaker 1: artists sort of stuff. And then I'd go down to
Speaker 1: the cafe every morning, and you know, when I wasn't
Speaker 1: working some other gig and write screenplays. I had written
Speaker 1: like six features, and you and I would give each
Speaker 1: other notes. I remember the first incarnation of Garden State
Speaker 1: when it was called Largest Arc, and it was like
Speaker 1: sixty pages longer than what I'd ended up becoming. But
Speaker 1: I remember when you gave that to me after you
Speaker 1: had read a couple of mine, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was writing like big budget romantic comedies or you know,
Speaker 1: things that might maybe like a Will Ferrell or Ben Stiller.
Speaker 1: At the time, I was like, that would be great
Speaker 1: if I could get guys like that. And you gave
Speaker 1: me the Largest Arc to read and to give you notes,
Speaker 1: and I just remember thinking, this is like real, this
Speaker 1: is making me feel something. I'm not doing it right,
Speaker 1: and I just sort of felt like it sort of
Speaker 1: inspired me too. I had never played music in my
Speaker 1: whole life. I had never grown up playing music or
Speaker 1: taking any instrument lessons or anything like that. And so
Speaker 1: I was about to turn thirty years old, and I
Speaker 1: was struggling as an artist, and I just thought, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm doing these things for the wrong reasons. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to write these screenplays to sell them, rather than like
Speaker 1: writing what I know, or writing what I'm really passionate about,
Speaker 1: or making myself vulnerable in some way with my writing.
Speaker 1: And so I started playing guitar and learning a few
Speaker 1: chords and learned a few covers, and then I knew
Speaker 1: enough chords on the guitar after learning a couple of
Speaker 1: Dylan songs that I was like, well, I'm a writer.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll try to write my own song. And I
Speaker 1: wrote this song. Winter was the first song I wrote.
Speaker 1: And I remember we were sitting in You and I
Speaker 1: were sitting in my apartment in the East Village in
Speaker 1: New York, and you saw a guitar in my living room,
Speaker 1: sitting up against the wall, and you were like, I
Speaker 1: didn't know you played guitar. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't really play. I mean, I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: learning and learn a few chords and a few cover songs.
Speaker 1: And he said, we'll play me something like oh. I
Speaker 1: could never do that at the time. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: open my eyes when I was playing the song. I
Speaker 1: was so nervous to play in front of anybody anyway.
Speaker 1: So I made you turn around. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember it. I do remember that you said, don't
Speaker 1: look at me. Don't you look at me? Wow? And uh,
Speaker 1: And I remember this vividly. I played this song Winter,
Speaker 1: and you turned around and your eyes were like a
Speaker 1: little watery and it had affected you. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's cool. That nothing I've written, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of screenplays or paintings I painted or anything like that. Ever,
Speaker 1: I'd ever seen that kind of response from someone other
Speaker 1: than like my mom, you know, or dad or you know.
Speaker 1: And uh so coming from a dear friend, that was
Speaker 1: really cool. And it's sort of I don't know. I
Speaker 1: remember you said to me, I really love that song.
Speaker 1: You should probably maybe make a demo of it or something,
Speaker 1: you know. Scrubs and Bills, Bill and Christmas. They're always
Speaker 1: looking for music, especially the music that they can afford,
Speaker 1: because at the time it wasn't sinks. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: it as now. You wouldn't turn on the TV and
Speaker 1: hear a Stones song or a Beatles song or something
Speaker 1: like that. They were way too expensive. It was pre streaming,
Speaker 1: so people were still making money in the music industry,
Speaker 1: big legends. It was a good time for at the
Speaker 1: time we were making Scrubs was an amazing time for
Speaker 1: singer songwriters like Josh because, like he said, the big
Speaker 1: famous songs they might splurge a couple of times, as
Speaker 1: Bill did in this show and pay for a big song.
Speaker 1: But in Josh's you know, it was a great opening
Speaker 1: for a singer songwriter because they were they were they
Speaker 1: were moving and beautiful, but gettable and affordable. So essentially
Speaker 1: it was the gold rush for people like me. So
Speaker 1: we moved, all these musicians moved from New York out
Speaker 1: to LA where the music supervisors and the TV shows
Speaker 1: and the movies are made. And I'd play in this
Speaker 1: little place called though. Oh sorry, but I've skipped over
Speaker 1: this part where the most important actually, because it has
Speaker 1: to do with scrubs. So you said, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: make a demo of that song. So I went into
Speaker 1: carry brothers are their best friend, into his bedroom. He
Speaker 1: had a little pro tools rig on an old Mac,
Speaker 1: and I just played it live and then recorded a
Speaker 1: harmony over it. I mean, as demo as you can get.
Speaker 1: It's no mixing, no mastering, nothing like no, it's one
Speaker 1: take and sent the demo to you. You forwarded it
Speaker 1: onto Bill Lawrence and like, I don't know, like two
Speaker 1: three weeks later, I get a call from Bill and
Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, do you mind if I that song
Speaker 1: works perfectly in this episode? Do you mind if we
Speaker 1: use it? And And I was like, are you kidding? This
Speaker 1: is the first song he the first song you'd ever
Speaker 1: written that was only recorded just with a mic and
Speaker 1: a guitar on pro tools, no nothing else except for
Speaker 1: one pro tools back that it was like Carrie didn't
Speaker 1: have like a real studio. This was like a this
Speaker 1: is like a little rig we had. So the recording
Speaker 1: we hear in the show is just you and Carry's bedroom, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on a fifty eight mic, Like I mean, as basic
Speaker 1: as you can get, well, and then I'll take it
Speaker 1: from there. I just this this section. I remember I
Speaker 1: always was playing music for Bill and he flipped out
Speaker 1: over this. We I had no idea this would become
Speaker 1: such a popular episode, but it was obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: became enormous. And then everyone started searching for Josh's music.
Speaker 1: But the thing is he didn't have any songs. He
Speaker 1: only had one song, right Carry. I remember Carry when
Speaker 1: it was airing. Carry's like, you need a MySpace page,
Speaker 1: you know, so if people search for you or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I didn't. I was even more computer or literate
Speaker 1: back then, although nothing's really changed, and so Carry set
Speaker 1: up my MySpace page. It was or a little website,
Speaker 1: which is a picture of me and a link where
Speaker 1: you could just listen to Winter the demo. And it
Speaker 1: was really cool because Bill told me afterwards, and you
Speaker 1: told me afterwards that after the show aired, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: you guys were on NBC then before you had switched
Speaker 1: to ABC. So the NBC website crashed after the episode
Speaker 1: aired from so many people around the world trying to
Speaker 1: find out where to get that song or whose song
Speaker 1: that wasn't. Oh my god, well there goes screenwriting. I'm
Speaker 1: moving to LA and become a musician. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: got goose bumps when you told me that. Just now
Speaker 1: that was That's such a great story. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and it's just like it's like when Susan
Speaker 1: Boyle came out and sang lay miss. You know, everyone
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, but I hear I didn't
Speaker 1: hear what you said. I didn't. I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: get this Susan Boyle. Susan Boyle was that. I know,
Speaker 1: I know who she is. I just don't understand how well.
Speaker 1: It was so moving, and it was one of those
Speaker 1: moments where I'm very moved, as I'm sure the world is.
Speaker 1: Because these shows are so popular. When someone comes out
Speaker 1: and it's Susan Boyle and you're not expecting it, and
Speaker 1: they have a voice that makes you just your jaw
Speaker 1: drop and you clutch your head like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: where's this woman been. It's so moving she can perform
Speaker 1: like that. And I'm just saying it was it reminded
Speaker 1: me of Josh being like, he's he's thirty years old.
Speaker 1: He was he hasn't sold a screen play. He was feeling,
Speaker 1: he was going through a bad breakup, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden his entire life changed because he wrote, has
Speaker 1: had the courage to write his very first song, and
Speaker 1: the talent well, and also happened to be best friends
Speaker 1: with a guy who was the star of a TV
Speaker 1: show looking for music. So I mean, it's a combination
Speaker 1: of as most people will tell you in the entertainment
Speaker 1: business is it's a combination of of talent and work,
Speaker 1: but also who you know, and of course of course
Speaker 1: but but but but you know it, all all those
Speaker 1: things line up. Of course, access is key and and
Speaker 1: but but still, Bill wouldn't have even listened to four
Speaker 1: seconds of my friend and shitty song, you know. Well,
Speaker 1: I will also say that even after that episode aired
Speaker 1: and we're talking about. It wasn't like this overnight thing
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden I was like a rock star.
Speaker 1: It was like, man, I remember, I mean it was
Speaker 1: brick by brick still, I mean sixteen sixteen years later
Speaker 1: and it's still like your music industries gets hurt every year,
Speaker 1: but you are able to make a living as an artist,
Speaker 1: and so you are blessed as we all are in
Speaker 1: that way. And in normal times, Josh tours all over
Speaker 1: the world, so you should always look where what's your website?
Speaker 1: We'll get your plug in now, Josh, what's their website
Speaker 1: to search for where you tour and ship? Well? Uh,
Speaker 1: Joshua raidin dot com and raiding'spelled our A d I N.
Speaker 1: That's correct. And then what do you do? Josh? You've
Speaker 1: been doing this. We're gonna talk with the episode. Everyone
Speaker 1: stop freaking out. Josh, what are you're doing? This interesting thing? Now?
Speaker 1: You're doing sort of private home concerts. How do people
Speaker 1: find out about that? On my website? You can you
Speaker 1: can see it. It's just a link. That's It's a
Speaker 1: company called Topeka Live that started after when this pandemic started.
Speaker 1: It's just some guys I knew that started this company
Speaker 1: to help musicians kind of engage with their audiences all
Speaker 1: over the world and play live through these Zoom shows.
Speaker 1: So I've been doing that a lot this year. So
Speaker 1: you can like have at you could have a Zoom part,
Speaker 1: like if your friends all love Josh, you could have
Speaker 1: like a Zoom party and Josh all you hire Josh
Speaker 1: to comply. Or you can even just have a salt
Speaker 1: song with your with your lover. It's a bunch of
Speaker 1: different options, and it's it's been very It's I might,
Speaker 1: I might get paperweight for me and Donald Donald? Do
Speaker 1: you want us? You want us put that with me?
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool because the company a portion of every zoom,
Speaker 1: whether it's a serenade that's like one song and you
Speaker 1: get like a chat fifteen minutes, or it's like a
Speaker 1: forty five little minute mini concert you get like six songs,
Speaker 1: you request the songs whatever we chat. You can do
Speaker 1: like six different windows of zooms of people all over
Speaker 1: the world. If you have how much for you to
Speaker 1: show your sea gutters? Is that? Is there an option
Speaker 1: for that option for that maybe just for for for
Speaker 1: Zach and Donald. Wait, hold up, do you have only
Speaker 1: fans Josh? Do I have what only fans. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what that is. Okay, you need to get you
Speaker 1: again with fans. You need to get you only fans
Speaker 1: back right away. I was gonna say, but what also
Speaker 1: is cool about this Topeka Live is that a portion
Speaker 1: of every thing that people purchase goes to this really
Speaker 1: cool charity that helps families get out of poverty. So
Speaker 1: it's like for everybody, that's really awesome. But you need
Speaker 1: to get an only fans. Yeah, we want everyone's everyone
Speaker 1: wants to see. Only fans will allow you to show
Speaker 1: nudes and let let all your fans really enjoy all
Speaker 1: of you. If you gotta show, if you gotta show
Speaker 1: Sea gutters, if you gotta show Sea gutters, get you
Speaker 1: only fans. All right, let's talk. Donald. Are you ready
Speaker 1: with your summary? Josh, We're gonna let you sit in
Speaker 1: because you're a VIP guest as we discussed the episode. Donald,
Speaker 1: as you know from being discussed the episode, am I
Speaker 1: allowed to talk? But yeah, of course we want your input. Okay, Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: let me get my tire, I stop watch recent and
Speaker 1: go Carlos keeping her last name. Turk's mold is alive.
Speaker 1: Doctor Clock's blames Jay deep for the death of a patient,
Speaker 1: and Elliott's Bunyan is nightmarish. This episode is a lot,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to summarize in thirty seconds. Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: and Tara Reid are back, and all of our character
Speaker 1: storylines blend together and intertwine. Other than the obvious, one
Speaker 1: storyline really stood out for me. Who are we when
Speaker 1: we show ourselves to the world? Are you your true self?
Speaker 1: Or do you hide behind a persona? It's always a
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise when you get a positive reaction from a
Speaker 1: negative person. Kelso storyline really softens you up before the
Speaker 1: big reveal at the end of the show. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Forty six seconds for that one guy making the graph
Speaker 1: every day of how long Donald is one guy can
Speaker 1: lick my my my, But but he's not. It's not
Speaker 1: a negative thing, Donald, he just is. He's just doing
Speaker 1: an artful graph of help. Yeah, but the way you're
Speaker 1: the way you're using him to criticize me makes me
Speaker 1: want to tell him to eat a Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: that's sometimes or a guy just making a graph. All right, listen,
Speaker 1: it's a legendary episode, guys. I gotta say in in
Speaker 1: my eight point five years on this show. This is
Speaker 1: the one that people bring up most to me. I think, right, Donald,
Speaker 1: would you say that I get this? I get this
Speaker 1: one a lot in the musical episode, It's like it's
Speaker 1: like the sixth sense? Is that the right? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think that Bill, that Bill has said that was an inspiration.
Speaker 1: Obviously it is the because once you see it happen,
Speaker 1: you get it automatically, like you see when it all
Speaker 1: goes down. We are watching it now, watching it right,
Speaker 1: watching it now. Therst time you watch it, you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily pick up on it. I have to admit, I
Speaker 1: don't think i'd never gone back. Like Donald and I
Speaker 1: have said, we never we never really We'd occasionally watched
Speaker 1: these when I don't know about you, but I would
Speaker 1: watch them maybe when they aired, and then I eventually stopped,
Speaker 1: and I obviously saw cuts of the ones I directed.
Speaker 1: I would probably seed them all up until nine, but
Speaker 1: I never saw them again. And so this one, now
Speaker 1: watching knowing what you know about Ben is really interesting.
Speaker 1: It's really fun to watch. I reckon if you're not
Speaker 1: watching these as we go back, if this would be
Speaker 1: the one to do it, because once you know the
Speaker 1: Ben reveal, it's fun to watch it and knowing what
Speaker 1: you know it really is because when it happens, you
Speaker 1: automatically know exactly what JD's talking about. First of all,
Speaker 1: JD's kind of like a real cavalier about time too.
Speaker 1: But also I was gonna say that I didn't. I
Speaker 1: had trouble with the fact that jds cavalier. Through the
Speaker 1: rest of the episode, he's kind of like joking around
Speaker 1: and meanwhile his heroes best friend just died and he
Speaker 1: was at the helm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it so
Speaker 1: that was that was really interesting to me. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a I know they have to throw a misdirect
Speaker 1: into in there somehow. I guess this is the way
Speaker 1: to do it, because if you're a if JD's affected
Speaker 1: by this uh screw up, then we know that something
Speaker 1: it's more than just you know, we think we'll think,
Speaker 1: we'll know it's more than just the old guy that died.
Speaker 1: It's it's got to be something bigger. It's really masterfully done.
Speaker 1: Directed by Chris Kotch and written by Garret Donovan and
Speaker 1: Neil Goldman. It's it's all the writing and direction are
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. So let's go to the top. Yeah, this aired,
Speaker 1: by the way, on February twenty fourth, two thousand and four. Wow,
Speaker 1: just if you want to sixteen think about think about
Speaker 1: your life sixteen years ago, sixteen years ago. What were
Speaker 1: you doing in February twenty fourth, two thousand and four, listener,
Speaker 1: The divorce was like in effect, like I was in
Speaker 1: a we were we were in courtroom times. I was
Speaker 1: this is like, this is like we are doing it
Speaker 1: now this I had moved out by this point. My
Speaker 1: film came out. Garden State came out in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four after this, though, Yeah, it was I think
Speaker 1: fall or or must have been octobersh or maybe the
Speaker 1: summer was this. This was our biggest season two, right,
Speaker 1: I think season two is the highest ranked. I don't know, Joel,
Speaker 1: can you look that up for us? What was the
Speaker 1: highest rank season? I believe I read on on scrubs Wiki,
Speaker 1: by the way, Scrub's wiki. You guys know, I always
Speaker 1: talk about it, but it's it's got a lot for
Speaker 1: this episode. If you're into that sort of thing, if
Speaker 1: you want to do a deep dive on interpretations of
Speaker 1: all the every day of so many moments that I
Speaker 1: don't even know if Bill thought of or Kneel and Garrett.
Speaker 1: But there's like, why is that poster behind Ben? It
Speaker 1: must mean that anyway, Mickhead more important than anything. Mickhead
Speaker 1: has his first line, Donald thanks nurses Pinoza. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: doesn't say, that's it, and then he walks away. That
Speaker 1: was his audition. That was his audition pretty much. That
Speaker 1: was like, can you deliver this line? Now? We know
Speaker 1: the characters just come back from huff huffing paint rehab. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from paint which she'll never do again, which she'll never
Speaker 1: do again. Well, he looks pretty healthy, you know, he's
Speaker 1: just back from huffing paint rehab. And then he and
Speaker 1: and he's but he's he's pretty back to being a
Speaker 1: doctor's He looks like he's all right. He says, thanks
Speaker 1: to Nurse Espinoza. Pretty well. Does does people know? Do
Speaker 1: people know that that's Mickhead yet? Have people put two
Speaker 1: and two together? Like we know because we know Frank
Speaker 1: and we know that he played Mickhead, right, But has
Speaker 1: the audience put two and two together yet? Has the
Speaker 1: audience said, oh, that's the Mickhead character. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we talk about Mickhead. I don't know that they know
Speaker 1: that that's Mickhead, that that's Mickhead. Because when I realized
Speaker 1: that that was Mickhead, and I'm on the freaking show.
Speaker 1: Right when I realized that was with Mickhead was when
Speaker 1: he tried to kill his wife's later way later, adding
Speaker 1: paint relapse. Something must have happened, right, God, huffing paint
Speaker 1: is a joke, bizarre addiction. How did that happen? Who
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna spray all this paint in this bag,
Speaker 1: all right, We'll put it in this bag, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try and breathe all of the paint in the
Speaker 1: bag into my motherfucking knows, Yeah, and I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna breathe and breathe and breathe and breathe and breathe.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what happens. But it's what motherfucker was
Speaker 1: just sitting there like it's one thing to get you high,
Speaker 1: but to be like, m let me go get some
Speaker 1: fucking blue, right, I need more paint? All right? So
Speaker 1: Joel just told us in the chat that season two
Speaker 1: is the highest rated, followed by season three. So your
Speaker 1: wife's not taking your name. Now, this happened in your
Speaker 1: real life because your wife didn't take your name. Did
Speaker 1: that upset you, Well, it was kind of like a
Speaker 1: sabotage thing with me. So with this, she's telling him
Speaker 1: way before the wedding, so there's like a cushion he
Speaker 1: could He has an opportunity to be like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, or he can say you
Speaker 1: know what, he can get over it and I will.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go turking. We'll go through it
Speaker 1: with my wife. We were at the courthouse signing the
Speaker 1: license and I'm like, Donald Faison and her name is
Speaker 1: gonna be Casey, and she goes cob oh shit. And
Speaker 1: I was like and I was like, no, but this
Speaker 1: is the marriage part. We're going Casey Phazon, this is
Speaker 1: the courthouse, this is the time in the place. And
Speaker 1: they're like, no, we're gonna she was like, she was
Speaker 1: like cop. She's like, but what I will do is
Speaker 1: I'll make it so that if I do decide to
Speaker 1: change it, we don't have to go through all of
Speaker 1: this legal legal paperwork and stuff like that. It's like
Speaker 1: once it's like a one sign thing, and then she
Speaker 1: can change her name, like to change your last name
Speaker 1: after the marriage thing. It's like this whole big thing.
Speaker 1: But if you sign, if you do a couple of
Speaker 1: things while you're there, you can make it a little
Speaker 1: bit less strenuous to change your last name. So she
Speaker 1: dangled it. She dangled it in front of me to
Speaker 1: keep me from saying, we'll fuck this shit. I'm not
Speaker 1: want to get married in oh shit. She's like, no, no no, no, no, no, wait,
Speaker 1: before we before you get all upset in all puffy chest,
Speaker 1: here is what I'm going to do for you. There's
Speaker 1: a possibility that i'll change it later. I'll make it
Speaker 1: so that it's not a problem for me to do that. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, h I complicated, right, No, I like that
Speaker 1: old tradition. I understand why women are more of a
Speaker 1: more over it like why you don't own me? Why
Speaker 1: am I taking your fucking name? But I think that
Speaker 1: there's I guess there's. It's one old school tradition I
Speaker 1: really liked. But it's not it's not up to the
Speaker 1: man anymore. It's very calm. I have quite a few friends,
Speaker 1: as you know, I spend a lot of time in
Speaker 1: Sweden over the last twelve thirteen years. And yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: from I know a lot of Swedish guys. There are
Speaker 1: friends of mine that got married and took their wives names. Wow,
Speaker 1: we heard them correctly, don't yea. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: start calling me Donald cop Donald Cop. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you Donald Cob from now on. Already
Speaker 1: already got already got a white person's last name. I
Speaker 1: don't need another white person. I feel like another white
Speaker 1: person's last name name. Are you fucking kidding me? What
Speaker 1: about That's that sounds African to you? What about Frankie Fair?
Speaker 1: That just means we came from the same plantation, Joshua
Speaker 1: Raydon Come on now, come on now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: On now, they don't notice y'all don't know Wait hard
Speaker 1: on now, how come they ain't no black Washington. How
Speaker 1: come they no white Washington's? How come they know white Jefferson's.
Speaker 1: You know a white Jefferson? You know a white person
Speaker 1: with the last name Jefferson. I don't know a white
Speaker 1: person with the last name Washington, white person. I know?
Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is that? I don't know? Pason
Speaker 1: could have been like a made up I didn't I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. I know, I know what you're
Speaker 1: saying about slaves taking their master's names. There's a phase
Speaker 1: on North Carolina. Where do you think my ancestors parked
Speaker 1: when they got when they got taken from Africa. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I didn't know. There's a raid in Poland,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where possibly my name comes from.
Speaker 1: It is very possible that you are that one of
Speaker 1: your Radinsky or Radinovich, you know something. I always imagine
Speaker 1: my name was longer like Braftberg or Brafowitz or but
Speaker 1: you could probably there probably is a town or something
Speaker 1: like that. There is somewhere where your name originated. And
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a person. It's like the right, am
Speaker 1: I correct me if I'm right? It sounds like about right. No,
Speaker 1: Like all my grandparents have unfortunately passed away, so I
Speaker 1: don't really have a great resource to find out where
Speaker 1: my relatives are from. But I think it's probably Polish German,
Speaker 1: like I I imagine, like you know, somebody like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm making up a name, but somebody like Jason York
Speaker 1: was from York in England back in the day, and
Speaker 1: when having to describe himself, I'm Jason from York and
Speaker 1: then he became Jason York, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I imagine that's how the shit probably happened. So all right,
Speaker 1: well we learned that JD has a Piniona helmet. And
Speaker 1: not only does he have a Pinona helmet, he had
Speaker 1: his own SpongeBob SquarePants costume, which he says was a
Speaker 1: gift from me to me. Yes, yes, can I Why
Speaker 1: does JD have? How many times has JD been hitting
Speaker 1: the head? He is a helmet that's specifically for pinata parties, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he that one. There was that one time or
Speaker 1: several or maybe twice and he's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I gotta get my bona helmet. So so here's an
Speaker 1: interesting Ben is back. He's not treating He's not treating
Speaker 1: his cancer. As we told you last time Brendan was on.
Speaker 1: He was actually he is a super big photographer and
Speaker 1: had all sorts of really cool cameras and this one
Speaker 1: for those camera geeks out there, He's got a polaroid
Speaker 1: back on a on a Holga, which is something I
Speaker 1: hadn't even ever seen before. I had to google that
Speaker 1: it was a real thing. But Holga is a very
Speaker 1: cheap plastic camera that people love because if you put
Speaker 1: film in it, it takes really cool interesting it has
Speaker 1: a plastic lens. It's really cheap. And then he put
Speaker 1: a polaroid back on it, which you alaber. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get the moments because people know I love cameras and
Speaker 1: they're not that expensive. It's a great gift. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't have any money, and I know you're like cameras. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got like forty holgas. If you want one, I'll
Speaker 1: give you one back for Hank. It's kidding. And then
Speaker 1: so the polaroid back is is it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, and then I googled. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they don't even make that film anymore unfortunately anywhere. That's
Speaker 1: just a moment for the camera geeks. And anyway, my
Speaker 1: point is is that later on Ben says I'll take
Speaker 1: pictures until the day I die. Wow, And then the
Speaker 1: second he first appears and as a hallucination, he no
Speaker 1: longer has the camera ever again at all at all. Wow.
Speaker 1: I didn't until you said that. I didn't even I
Speaker 1: didn't put that together. I got that from Scrubs wiki.
Speaker 1: I have to there's a few things that were cool
Speaker 1: that I didn't even know, and that that was one
Speaker 1: of them. This is some sixth cent shit, I'm telling you, man. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: the obvious thing is that no one, no one sees
Speaker 1: Ben other than Cox because once he's dead, And when
Speaker 1: you go back and watch, it's really clever. How how
Speaker 1: Chris Cotch directed all of that. It's very very well done.
Speaker 1: There's a whole interaction with Sarah where he's pretending to
Speaker 1: be a public mass. Amazing physical comedy by both him
Speaker 1: and Sarah. And then when she walks away and he's
Speaker 1: still holding onto the string, imaginary string and he falls
Speaker 1: off of the counter amazing physical comedy by Brendan Fraser. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brendan was so good in this episode, so good, so good.
Speaker 1: He's just so freaking charming. That guy he is, he
Speaker 1: is and and and I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. The doctor Kelso storyline is so important for
Speaker 1: this episode. It's so important because it's the hard, this
Speaker 1: hard character who softens at the end, right, And when
Speaker 1: he softens, that's when we as an audience also are
Speaker 1: let in on the big reveal that Ben's Ben's dead
Speaker 1: and he's been dead for a while, and that I
Speaker 1: personally feel like I don't think that would be as
Speaker 1: impactful if you don't see a journey throughout the show,
Speaker 1: because there is no journey throughout the show in this
Speaker 1: other you know what I mean, there's no journey. Ben's
Speaker 1: there in the beginning and he's dead. There's no journey
Speaker 1: for Cox Cox. There's nothing for Cox really to accept
Speaker 1: other than the fact that his that his best friend's
Speaker 1: dead and everything. There's no journey for him. There's no
Speaker 1: journey for jd. There's no journey for anyway. The only
Speaker 1: person that has a journey in this is Kelso and
Speaker 1: his Kelso, and Kelso's journey is so important that it's
Speaker 1: it has to land at the end for Ben's death
Speaker 1: to be even more impactful. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I do is it the first time Kelso's shown any
Speaker 1: heart at all? Because there's a moment in the closet
Speaker 1: where Judy says it's been a hard week. Now. The
Speaker 1: audience first time through assumes that's solely because she's arguing
Speaker 1: with you about stuff. They don't realize that she's also
Speaker 1: processing this death. And then then we know Kelso also
Speaker 1: is processing this friends with Ben, but you know he
Speaker 1: shows he I mean to me it was the first
Speaker 1: time he showed real humanity at all. Right, And it's
Speaker 1: so important for this, for this moment to land at
Speaker 1: the end, because now he softened everybody up, He's given
Speaker 1: everybody the he's he's made it, so everybody is a
Speaker 1: relaxed Oh, this is a great ending for scrubs where
Speaker 1: I feel fuzzy inside. And so then when you get
Speaker 1: punched in the gut that we're at the we're at
Speaker 1: a funeral at the end, and Josh's song starts to play,
Speaker 1: it's even more impactful. But it's because of Ken's storyline.
Speaker 1: It's because of Kelso's storyline and how well he plays
Speaker 1: it at the end, the end, the closet with Carla,
Speaker 1: it's so so I wanted to mention that Randall Winston's
Speaker 1: credit comes up at the exact moment that Leonard the
Speaker 1: security guard is mentioned. Wow, so someone cleverly timed it.
Speaker 1: So just as we're talking about Leonard the security guard
Speaker 1: and his afro and his hook hand, Randall's credit comes up.
Speaker 1: Because have you ever done that? What timed it? So
Speaker 1: when your name comes up a specific no usually key
Speaker 1: or music key or a you know whatever, a music
Speaker 1: note or whatever, whatever well I'm going in style was
Speaker 1: the first time a first feature I directed that had
Speaker 1: the full hundred piece orchestra score. So I think when
Speaker 1: my card comes at the end, directed by I made
Speaker 1: sure that there was a hundred piece orchestra flourish because
Speaker 1: like in some movies. In some movies, like you'll see
Speaker 1: like in Eddie Murphy movies are great for it, Like
Speaker 1: the beginning of The Golden Child, there's all of this
Speaker 1: montage stuff and then when Eddie Murphy shows up, you
Speaker 1: see Eddie Murphy, like he turns to camera just like
Speaker 1: a sitcom damn Near and he had the big smile
Speaker 1: on his face, and it's like Eddie Murphy the Golden Ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I wonder. I wonder,
Speaker 1: like even even when directors or well music people, when
Speaker 1: they when their title card comes up, do they put
Speaker 1: a little spruce in it? Maybe, you know, maybe subliminate.
Speaker 1: The credits are added so much later after you've locked
Speaker 1: and and there's and there's a there's an order that
Speaker 1: everyone has to go and just per contracts, So it
Speaker 1: would be pretty tricky to do it after the fact
Speaker 1: unless you planned on doing it. I don't mean I
Speaker 1: don't mean to imply that they cut this to Randall's picture.
Speaker 1: I just mean it probably was close, and then it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, if we fledget a
Speaker 1: few seconds, it'll because in the beginning of scrubs, for
Speaker 1: those of you never I mean, I don't think we've
Speaker 1: ever discussed this. They have to do all these opening
Speaker 1: credits because you know, I mean, that's that's just part
Speaker 1: of the rules, the contracts, the guild rules and everything,
Speaker 1: and they can be distracting. So there's times when they'll
Speaker 1: pause them for a few seconds if a joke is
Speaker 1: playing out to not upstage the joke, and then they'll
Speaker 1: bring them back in and it's just very subtle. The
Speaker 1: audience wouldn't really notice it. So I'm just saying they
Speaker 1: may have fudged it a little bit, so it timed
Speaker 1: out perfectly. As he's mentioned, Carla hates Turk's mole his
Speaker 1: tickle button. Yeah, I imagine that's a lot of people's
Speaker 1: first reaction. I remember one time I was at my
Speaker 1: best friend's house we were kids, and her dad kept
Speaker 1: looking at me like really weird, like staring really hard
Speaker 1: at my face, and I kept looking back at him like, hey,
Speaker 1: is everything okay? And he kept staring so hard, and
Speaker 1: finally he was like, I'm sorry, man, but what the
Speaker 1: fuck is that on your face? Oh? My god? And
Speaker 1: I was like what He was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is that on your face? You got some shit on
Speaker 1: your face? What a dick? He thought was food or something.
Speaker 1: He thought I had like doo doo oh on my lip.
Speaker 1: It feels a little bad. I want to hug a
Speaker 1: baby dude, who live donald? I laughed so hard at
Speaker 1: that moment. Oh, really, you weren't upset. I would have
Speaker 1: been upset. No, I was old enough. I was like sixteen.
Speaker 1: It was that embarrassed. Later it was like, it was like, dude,
Speaker 1: what do you You've known me my whole life and
Speaker 1: you don't You've never noticed this before. He's known me
Speaker 1: before puberty. He knew me before everything, and he never
Speaker 1: noticed that I had a mole off. It's embarrassing, though, though,
Speaker 1: don't you think, like, were you always awkward around that guy?
Speaker 1: From then on, I would feel so like cringey. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. Man. When I arrived in Northwestern, I
Speaker 1: had just done Manhattan Murder Mystery one scene. As I
Speaker 1: think I mentioned before, I was Woody Allen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was their son, and this kid I was always a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. I really liked him. And we
Speaker 1: were walking and he's and we start talking about manhatt
Speaker 1: murder mystery, and he said, supposedly that kid who plays
Speaker 1: the son goes to school here, and I kind of chuckled,
Speaker 1: and he went, I didn't really think he was that
Speaker 1: good though, And it was clear he hadn't seen the movie. Dude.
Speaker 1: I thought he was doing a bit, but he wasn't,
Speaker 1: and it told we weren't really able to ever recover. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was clearly, dude, he hadn't seen
Speaker 1: the movie though. No, I think he'd seen the movie.
Speaker 1: There's no way he'd seen the movie and not recognized you,
Speaker 1: though I don't. I just don't. Maybe I didn't have
Speaker 1: the same haircut and he just didn't put two. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It was so cringing and awkward that
Speaker 1: our friendship died a quick death. Oh, dude, that's nothing.
Speaker 1: I remember sitting in a movie theater freaking behind two
Speaker 1: ladies watching Wait and Exhale, and there throughout the movie
Speaker 1: talking about how much they love the movie. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is such a great movie. I'm quiet behind them, just
Speaker 1: enjoying the ride with them and everything like that, laughing
Speaker 1: when they're laughing, and then I come on screen and
Speaker 1: my scene's over and they go, yeah, I don't like him.
Speaker 1: Though the movie's good, he is not. And I remember
Speaker 1: being like, oh, and that's when you just fade right back,
Speaker 1: and that's like real time trolling, real time trolling, right
Speaker 1: in my face. It happened in my Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right. On that note, we're gonna go to break
Speaker 1: and we come back. We're gonna have a guest who,
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have questions for Josh Raiding, will be right
Speaker 1: back after these fine ones, and we're bae. Bring him in, Donald,
Speaker 1: I mean, bring him in, Daniel, no problem, Josh, you're excited.
Speaker 1: It's your first guest caller on the Scrubs Rewatch program.
Speaker 1: Lena is joining Lena. Lena. Ladies and gentlemen, give it
Speaker 1: up for Lena. Lena, Lena, Lena. Everybody rad that's the
Speaker 1: Joshua Radon Lena. Hi, Hi, Lena, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 1: That's Donald, Phazon, Joel, Monique, Joshua, Raydon, Daniel's and a
Speaker 1: broken camera. Lena. If you're ever in the market for
Speaker 1: a webcam. Do not buy the Imaging Edge webcam. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Apparently the Imaging Edge webcam is really expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't Ever if I would, if I had
Speaker 1: the time, I would go on Amazon and give it
Speaker 1: one star. Well, my webcam was about forty nine dollars
Speaker 1: and it's doing great. Well, maybe I do send good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look great. Do you notice how Lena we're able
Speaker 1: to see you. Yeah, Daniel's webcam didn't come with that feature.
Speaker 1: Oh and hear that, Daniel. Yeah, you guys need merch webcams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have every merch thing that is known to man.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell fake Doctor's Real Friends webcams, but they're
Speaker 1: not coming with them, not gonna We're not going to
Speaker 1: source them from Imaging EdgeCAM Edge web I I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to get my hands on the onesie, so I
Speaker 1: have to wait on the webcam when restock to Joel,
Speaker 1: do you know I'm working on that. But I'll give
Speaker 1: you guys an update. No idea we had. We we
Speaker 1: kind of thought it would be funny. We thought we
Speaker 1: ordered six hundred because we were like, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people listening to this all over the world. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we'll sell six hundred eventually, and and that won't
Speaker 1: be too many to order. And they were gone in
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, all of them. Yes, I can't even
Speaker 1: get one for my for my for my family, my wife.
Speaker 1: The seame of it is, we have a PJA day
Speaker 1: coming up at work? And where do you work? Where
Speaker 1: do you work? I'm a nurse. Oh shit, it got real.
Speaker 1: It just got interesting. Where where you working at? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I'm working for the largest healthcare organization in western Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: So anyone from Pittsburgh will know exactly who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's where I work. Oh, so you're going to be
Speaker 1: one of the first to get the vaccine. So I'm
Speaker 1: in home care. So the vaccine will go to the
Speaker 1: acute care staff first in the hospital. That started yesterday
Speaker 1: and actually my organization was the first to give it,
Speaker 1: and then home care will be the second round. Okay,
Speaker 1: so February, I hope, sooner than that. They're sitting by
Speaker 1: the end of January. Okay. Yeah, when you stay at
Speaker 1: home care, do you mean you care for people in
Speaker 1: their homes? Correct, So we take care of people who
Speaker 1: either came out of the hospital. So are COVID patients
Speaker 1: who come out of the hospital. Really they're really deconditioned,
Speaker 1: so they really take more therapy than nurses. But what's
Speaker 1: also happening is that we are so understaffed in the hospitals, understaffed.
Speaker 1: In home care, we're running out of beds, so unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they're having to send patients home from the hospital faster
Speaker 1: than they should. So in home care, we're now taking
Speaker 1: care of people with central lines, chess tubes, chemo, and
Speaker 1: so we've become an extension of acute care. And so
Speaker 1: we're taking care of people trying to keep them out
Speaker 1: of the hospital so that hospital beds are open for
Speaker 1: the patients who really need it. So you're providing care
Speaker 1: at how in the home? Yeah, how do you? How
Speaker 1: do you staff a team large enough to take care
Speaker 1: of all of the people that you're sourcing now out
Speaker 1: of the hospital because they're running out, Well, they have
Speaker 1: to stretch it some way. How are you stretching it
Speaker 1: right now? So it's funny that you ask that, Donald,
Speaker 1: And if I really figure out the right way to
Speaker 1: do it, I'm going to write a book and I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a trillionaire. And then I won't have
Speaker 1: to be a nurse anymore. But here's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So I'm a supervisor. I actually am in the office
Speaker 1: money through Friday, making sure that the nurses get the
Speaker 1: ppe they need, that all of the patients who need
Speaker 1: to be covered are covered. If we have to prioritize.
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's picking who gets seen and who
Speaker 1: doesn't get seen. So I'm also coordinating with the hospitals
Speaker 1: to say, no, we're not taking anymore. You need to
Speaker 1: find another home care. It's not a safe discharge. You
Speaker 1: need to keep them. So then on the weekends, I'm
Speaker 1: going out and seeing patients. So we're all just doing
Speaker 1: the best that we can. And it's scary because our
Speaker 1: pacient list is growing and our staff list is shrinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was seeing something today in LA that there there
Speaker 1: there are people that are waiting in ambulances because there's
Speaker 1: just there's no beds and LA is running out of
Speaker 1: ICU beds, so they had people. There was something I read,
Speaker 1: I think it was on Deadline about how they're literally
Speaker 1: just the ambulances are pulling up and just holding people
Speaker 1: because they just think there's a backlog. What are you
Speaker 1: guys doing there. So I'm in Pittsburgh and we locked
Speaker 1: down Saturday morning. We went back on lockdown, and they
Speaker 1: were saying, don't have a stroke or a heart attack
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh because there's no ICU beds left, and that's
Speaker 1: a really scary thought. So in home care, what we
Speaker 1: are doing to help is if we can keep them
Speaker 1: out of the hospital, we are so if that means
Speaker 1: that we get telehealth, or we get a social worker,
Speaker 1: or we get family involved, we're trying to critically think
Speaker 1: and keep them out of the hospital. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I went about three weeks ago, patient was
Speaker 1: discharged from the hospittle Friday night. I went in Saturday morning,
Speaker 1: and I sent them right back to the hospital. So
Speaker 1: it's just knowing what can I handle in the home,
Speaker 1: what do I need to send back to the hospital.
Speaker 1: It's getting the doctors on the phone and trying to
Speaker 1: think and talk and figure out what we can do.
Speaker 1: Because in home care, you're you're in the living room.
Speaker 1: There's no X rays, there's no blood work, there's no
Speaker 1: doctor that I can grab and say, hey, what do
Speaker 1: you think? It's just a nurse standing in a living room.
Speaker 1: So we're doing the best we can with the resources
Speaker 1: we have. Our health system is huge. They have their
Speaker 1: own insurance, they have their own long term care facilities.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to think out, can we just get
Speaker 1: this patient on telehealth and open them, open up a
Speaker 1: nurse for another visit. Is this somebody who just needs
Speaker 1: to go back to the hospital as much as I
Speaker 1: hate to do that, So we're just doing the best
Speaker 1: we can. We're critically thinking trying to get the patients
Speaker 1: who can stay out of the hospital what they need,
Speaker 1: and then get the patients who need to be in
Speaker 1: the hospital into the hospital. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And if you could, let's say you're
Speaker 1: in a position like you are right now, where you
Speaker 1: you speak to thousands and thousands and thousands of people
Speaker 1: across the world, what would you tell them in terms
Speaker 1: of from your point of view, what's the best thing
Speaker 1: they could be doing to keep themselves healthy. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I might actually start crying right now because an opportunity
Speaker 1: that every nurse wishes they could have right now. Wear
Speaker 1: your masks, even if you think it's stupid and it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, What if there's a one percent chance that
Speaker 1: you could protect your parents or your children or the neighbor.
Speaker 1: If there's a one percent chance that we are all
Speaker 1: right and you should wear your mask, then why risk it?
Speaker 1: So wear the mask. Only go out when you have to.
Speaker 1: If you do have to go out, be really smart
Speaker 1: about it, Like I said, use that critical thinking and say, okay,
Speaker 1: what can I outsource what? What? Maybe I can ask
Speaker 1: my neighbors what they need and just one person can
Speaker 1: make the trip the healthiest of us. I understand it's Christmas.
Speaker 1: I understand it, Tonic, I understand it's eed. I understand
Speaker 1: that all of these beautiful holidays are happening and that
Speaker 1: you want to be with your families. But this is
Speaker 1: It's not a normal year. And the best gift that
Speaker 1: you can give to the world right now, including your
Speaker 1: own family, is to stay home if you can. And
Speaker 1: if you can't be smart about it, be really smart
Speaker 1: and really think it through. And if you don't believe it,
Speaker 1: but there's a one percent chance we're all right, then
Speaker 1: why risk it? Yeah? Beautifully said? Beautifully said, and right
Speaker 1: from from someone on the front lines. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys all hear me and Donald talk about it, because
Speaker 1: we lost a friend and Josh lost a friend as well.
Speaker 1: But but I think people are just used to hearing
Speaker 1: it now and they roll their eyes. So to hear
Speaker 1: it from from a nurse who is on the front
Speaker 1: lines and seeing it day in and day out, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. All right, any questions, I feel silly
Speaker 1: to segue to this because you have a question. We
Speaker 1: anything scrubs related anything, Josh. Yeah, So if I have
Speaker 1: the opportunity for too, I'm gonna ask a scrubs question
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna ask a non scrubs questions. Okay, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Josh. Josh is just happy to be here.
Speaker 1: He's happy to be eavesdropping. Wait, if you know any
Speaker 1: nice women I found like a Jewish mother, if you
Speaker 1: know any nice women in the LA area. He's wonderful,
Speaker 1: he paints, he sings, Pittsburg. I'm available. Oh Josh, you
Speaker 1: got a beautiful nurse right here for you. But I
Speaker 1: don't think I was crazy, though, Yeah, I was a
Speaker 1: crazy And also I just don't think Pittsburgh is going
Speaker 1: to be where Josh plants his roots. But listen, and
Speaker 1: I understand, but I don't. I'd be lucky to have you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. He's also a charmer Lena and nurses. Being
Speaker 1: with the nurse is one of those things that you
Speaker 1: hope you never need, but then if you suddenly do,
Speaker 1: you're so glad they're there. I would I think that's
Speaker 1: great to be with a nurse because you can because
Speaker 1: I'm always like, what's this thing? What is this? Is this?
Speaker 1: Am I gonna die from this? Josh and I am
Speaker 1: the same doctor and we am and he's retiring actually,
Speaker 1: But the thing I loved about him is like, if
Speaker 1: I howked up a lugie, I could send him a
Speaker 1: text of it and I'd be like joining antibiotics and
Speaker 1: he'd be like, yes, and that's gross. Yep. I get
Speaker 1: pictures you can't imagine, you know, some people worry about like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a dick pick. I can't like
Speaker 1: about to say, gettures pops up on my phone? What
Speaker 1: I get texted? Oh my god, we were talking about
Speaker 1: Joel getting lots of inappropriate pictures. All right, what's your question?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Oh my god? Are you talking about online
Speaker 1: dating Joel? Yeah, I've gotten Yeah, I would like to
Speaker 1: discuss this. Okay, let's be let's be respectful and tactful.
Speaker 1: She's a she's a classy woman. Absolutely, which apple you want?
Speaker 1: Is it the tender that you're getting? All these in
Speaker 1: I tried to do it right, and I went like
Speaker 1: from match dot com, I pay the money and everything,
Speaker 1: and you you upload pictures, you describe yourself, and you
Speaker 1: put this nice little narrative like, listen, I'm very busy.
Speaker 1: If you need a lot of attention, don't bother to
Speaker 1: talk to me. This is what I'm looking for. And
Speaker 1: then just the DM start and there will be things
Speaker 1: out of like I had one that just said, I
Speaker 1: bet you taste great scary screechy violins on that cow.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I could do that. I don't know if I met
Speaker 1: I think, don't you when you hear tales about how
Speaker 1: gross fucking men are, don't you? Aren't you? Just like
Speaker 1: I'm just always so, I mean, I know about this,
Speaker 1: but we men don't get sent I don't get I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want and and and please don't start,
Speaker 1: Please don't don't want to hear these But when I
Speaker 1: hear these tales, I don't. I just can't believe how
Speaker 1: fucking gross men back dick picks aren't even the most shocking.
Speaker 1: That's not the it's the stuff they say to you.
Speaker 1: I don't get any of that stuff. Like I go
Speaker 1: through my dms like looking for the ship, like let
Speaker 1: you see. No, I don't want to dick pick. I
Speaker 1: want to see what my fans are saying to me.
Speaker 1: So sometimes i'll scroll through it and it'll be some
Speaker 1: of the stuff I'm like, oh god, that's heart wrenching.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I shouldn't have opened this. Why did
Speaker 1: I open this? And then some of it, it's like
Speaker 1: some of it's like yo, man, fuck you man, Yo,
Speaker 1: your your your podcast is shit. Man. All y'all do
Speaker 1: is talk about shit on the right and on you
Speaker 1: for you like you shit on the left. Y'all know
Speaker 1: you know you need to be newscast train right. I'll
Speaker 1: get I get a lot of that with the red
Speaker 1: siren emoji. I'll tell you to make a nurse blush.
Speaker 1: You have to you gotta really, you gotta really put
Speaker 1: it out there. And some of the messages I've gotten
Speaker 1: have made me blush. I have yet to get one
Speaker 1: of those messages. I'm very happy that I've yet to
Speaker 1: get one of those messages. I'm just having yet to
Speaker 1: get one of those messages. The real question is, well,
Speaker 1: not there's many questions I have about this, but when
Speaker 1: you're asking how crazy men are, which is totally true,
Speaker 1: it's it's insane. But I have female friends that have
Speaker 1: told me things like that before, have stories like that,
Speaker 1: and all these inappropriate messages, and you're like, my first
Speaker 1: thought was, okay, so you're a guy who goes on
Speaker 1: a match dot com and sends these inappropriate pictures or
Speaker 1: messages wherever, Like, is there are you sending those to
Speaker 1: like one hundred women hoping it one time it works?
Speaker 1: There's it has to be this. It has to be that.
Speaker 1: It's like fishing. They're they're hoping that they can't one.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, if it's let's say it's one
Speaker 1: out of five hundred, woman actually responds like are you won?
Speaker 1: You won? We spoke about this earlier, that one women
Speaker 1: woman is ruining for every other woman every especially if
Speaker 1: it happens like in the first week or the first
Speaker 1: you know a couple of times you try it where
Speaker 1: you're like, here's a dick pick and you get the
Speaker 1: response like, wow, I can't I know if that would
Speaker 1: have happened to any they'd be like, I'm doing this
Speaker 1: for the rest of the night. You watched that that
Speaker 1: last Amy Schumer stand up special. But she had a
Speaker 1: great She had great advice for women who get dick pics.
Speaker 1: And she said, if you get a dick pic, send
Speaker 1: back a picture of a bigger dick. When he when
Speaker 1: he responds, what's this, you just go, oh, sorry, I
Speaker 1: just thought we were sending pictures of cool dicks. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think. When you get a text,
Speaker 1: you have time to think of the response. You don't
Speaker 1: have to be really clever, really fast. So it gives
Speaker 1: you the opportunity with to come up with something great.
Speaker 1: So I had a guy, and feel free to censor
Speaker 1: this if you'd like to. But I don't say his name.
Speaker 1: We don't want a sense or anything. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't remember his name, one of a thousand who. I
Speaker 1: opened it up and it said when's the last time
Speaker 1: you got ben over and made come hard? Oh? And
Speaker 1: it was all misspelled, which is super hot. And so
Speaker 1: I respond to ask your brother. I think he wrote
Speaker 1: down the date. Wow, Okay, it gives you time, like
Speaker 1: I got it. I to have some coffee, think about it.
Speaker 1: How do I want to respond to that? All right?
Speaker 1: As fun as that is, Lena, I don't know that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't. I mean, if I wouldn't engage, not to
Speaker 1: be paternal. I don't think you should engage because they
Speaker 1: can be scared. Okay, Oh yeah, I was about to say,
Speaker 1: you gotta I'm gonna say, Lena, you're such a You're
Speaker 1: a nurse, You're a very beautiful woman. I feel like, Joel,
Speaker 1: we could if you want, we could put your well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to encourage it. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to if you're in the Pittsburgh area, how can
Speaker 1: what do we do? We can put your Instagram on
Speaker 1: our show notes or something you can that's gonna I'm
Speaker 1: trying to help everybody calm down, isn't We're not We're
Speaker 1: not even that fixed your life yet. We haven't even
Speaker 1: gotten The show is gonna be so fucking long. But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, Lena, I don't want to
Speaker 1: encourage that behavior, but gosh, I wish I could set
Speaker 1: you up with someone. Oh no, that's fine. I'm so
Speaker 1: busy right now. Okay, you're busy business. What's your question?
Speaker 1: Can handling COVID man have some romance. Everyone's got time
Speaker 1: for the a little bit of romance. All right, go ahead, Lena, Sorry,
Speaker 1: what's your question? So my question is for Zack and Donald.
Speaker 1: So let's say that somebody says, I want to make
Speaker 1: a movie about the making of Scrubs, how it came
Speaker 1: to fruition, behind the scenes. What young actors now are
Speaker 1: playing YouTube in your mid twenties. Oh wow, good question,
Speaker 1: great question. Well, I would play myself, obviously, I mean black,
Speaker 1: don't crack, you know. Yeah, so I think Ben Platt
Speaker 1: would play me. Oh that's a good answer because I
Speaker 1: like so it would be me and Ben Platt pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yea and more musical episodes two. Ben Platt has a
Speaker 1: beautiful voice, so I would sound even better when I
Speaker 1: sang and and I think he does. I saw him
Speaker 1: and Jeremon Hanson and he and obviously he's playing a
Speaker 1: a very different character. But but there were a lot
Speaker 1: of JDI isms that I liked and saw and respected.
Speaker 1: I think he's very talented. Donald's come out a kid,
Speaker 1: the kid from Stranger Things. Man, that's my dude. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: although he's a teenager, you need to be he's getting
Speaker 1: he's getting he's almost eighteen. Man, boy got mustache and everything.
Speaker 1: Now he's growing up. Okay, he's getting taught. There you go.
Speaker 1: There is your scrubs behind the scenes movie cast right there.
Speaker 1: All right, what's your next question? You said you had
Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, so I'm actually working on my doctorate
Speaker 1: and nursing. Sorry, Joel, this is not the question I
Speaker 1: told you, but I promise it's pc. Okay, you were
Speaker 1: on your doctor and nursing. That's so awesome. Do not
Speaker 1: apologize to me. And you don't have to love. You
Speaker 1: don't have to censor yourself. You know we liked anything inappropriate.
Speaker 1: I'm my doctorate project is on decreasing the stress in
Speaker 1: our frontline managers, so the managers who are between the
Speaker 1: patient care staff and the executive managements. So these are
Speaker 1: our frontline managers. So my question for all of you,
Speaker 1: especially right now, is what are you guys doing to
Speaker 1: decrease your stress? Drinking lots of pino noir, going outside.
Speaker 1: I like going. I broke my toe. I was if
Speaker 1: you listen to podcast, you know I was cycling a lot.
Speaker 1: The peloton was a great source of leaving stress for me.
Speaker 1: I broke my toe. So I'm a little on time
Speaker 1: out with exercise cardio. But I've been going to the
Speaker 1: dog park. We have a big dog park near us,
Speaker 1: and I love I get endorphins when I go and
Speaker 1: watch my dogs print around the dog park, and I
Speaker 1: don't know those are and those are my first ones
Speaker 1: that come to mind. What about you, Josh, We know
Speaker 1: that you're you're hiking. Hiking. Yeah, I like walking around
Speaker 1: in nature as much as I can and reading and
Speaker 1: you know, just just getting through it, basically getting through it.
Speaker 1: Lost Donald, What happened to Donald? It's like your question
Speaker 1: dropped out, Daniel will deal with that. Joel, Joel, what
Speaker 1: is your answer to the question? It was like doing
Speaker 1: Christmas things. It's like, which sounds crazy, but like you
Speaker 1: have to go all over the place, and like it
Speaker 1: was like researching with a friend and then like calling
Speaker 1: shops to see how we could do it safely and
Speaker 1: is like in the spirit of giving back, And it
Speaker 1: was like it was a great way to like both
Speaker 1: like physically get myself out of the house because I
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an anxious person. I have ah D
Speaker 1: and it like going outside a pre pandemic. Well, like
Speaker 1: I have social anxiety post pandemic, being inside so much
Speaker 1: now it's like just going to my friend's house is
Speaker 1: like four or five times much higher. I'm so anxious.
Speaker 1: So having like a goal something to do, a partner
Speaker 1: that I know has been safe throughout this whole thing
Speaker 1: to go do it with it's been like the greatest
Speaker 1: dress reliever. And then now I get to send people
Speaker 1: packages and they were going to open them on Zoom,
Speaker 1: and there's a whole like giving back like aspect of
Speaker 1: it that I'm just really excited to participate in. So
Speaker 1: Christmas season for the wind, I agree that, you know,
Speaker 1: there is I am having a lot of fun buying
Speaker 1: presents for people and and and then we took a lot.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of joy in decorating the house
Speaker 1: and getting I've never done a real full out Christmas
Speaker 1: because I'm Jewish, or at least I'm not. I'm secular,
Speaker 1: but you know, we just never did it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: congrats on your Christmas tree. Yeah we went all out.
Speaker 1: We went all out, and uh, it's it's fun. I'm
Speaker 1: having that is, you know, decorating the house and making
Speaker 1: it all super cozy has been has been a source
Speaker 1: of joy how's it going with Donald there, Daniel? He
Speaker 1: has not responded, well, Daniel, what do you do to distress?
Speaker 1: What do I do to destress? You know, I am
Speaker 1: a big fan of electronic music. I really like biking,
Speaker 1: riding my bicycle, and so there are times usually after work,
Speaker 1: usually laid at night, I would say around ten pm.
Speaker 1: I have a very flat neighborhood, and so it's also
Speaker 1: very quiet at night, not a lot of cars. So
Speaker 1: I'll throw it in my helmet, throw on some headphones,
Speaker 1: turn the light onto my bike, and I will just
Speaker 1: do laps around my neighborhood, blasting drum and bass in
Speaker 1: my ears and just going as hard as possible and
Speaker 1: letting the music just like plow through me like I'm
Speaker 1: in an action film. I always feel like I'm being
Speaker 1: chased by like the bad guys in the Matrix. Whenever
Speaker 1: I'm like biking around my neighborhood just listening to super
Speaker 1: super fast electronic music. I come home. I'm exhausted, I've
Speaker 1: sweat dripping all over me, and I just feel, you know,
Speaker 1: alive and released and just like loose and it's it
Speaker 1: feels great. It feels great. I would think that that
Speaker 1: would I mean, that sounds awesome, but I would think
Speaker 1: that would amp you all up. You'd come home like
Speaker 1: all like, there's definitely a degree. It's also I really
Speaker 1: try to do that when I am really trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of stress. So I'm already kind of tensed
Speaker 1: up and ready to go and working it out. Yes,
Speaker 1: gets my heart rate going, but also it just helps
Speaker 1: me release that stress. So while there's still like a
Speaker 1: worked up heart rate and stuff, there's a much more
Speaker 1: turned down mental state that's like, Okay, we are released
Speaker 1: from this, we are done, and now we can just
Speaker 1: move on with the night and go take a hot
Speaker 1: shower and you know, have a glass of something and
Speaker 1: go to bed. Yeah, how about you, Lena, what do
Speaker 1: you do? You? Cut? You? I mean you you're writing
Speaker 1: this dissertation, right, is that what it is? So when
Speaker 1: you're a nurse, you're it's called a scholarly project and
Speaker 1: it actually lasts the entire five semesters of doctor at school.
Speaker 1: So I've just completed my first semester. So all I've
Speaker 1: had to do at this point is just come up
Speaker 1: with the idea and turn that in and say this
Speaker 1: is the background of why this is a problem in nursing.
Speaker 1: I haven't got to the actual like getting it approved
Speaker 1: or putting together the actual study design, and I think
Speaker 1: and then actually having the experiment I think will be
Speaker 1: the really stressful part. But so for now, the stressful
Speaker 1: part is So I'm a I'm a mom, I'm a
Speaker 1: full time doctorate student, and i'm a single mom of
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a nurse. I'm a doctorate student, and
Speaker 1: i'm a single mom of two active teenage girls. A
Speaker 1: lot on your plate. So I'm busy, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry to interrupt you, Daniel, he's waiting
Speaker 1: to be let back in Donald. There we go, Oh,
Speaker 1: there he is, right, Stop talking about him, Stop talking
Speaker 1: about him. Hearing you what happened? Not a good signal
Speaker 1: in that closet. Yeah, I can't tell you what I
Speaker 1: do to relieve stress. That's all that's my business. She's
Speaker 1: a nurse, and it's very healthy, right, but it's normal.
Speaker 1: It's normal, right, it's normal. Right, it's normal though, right,
Speaker 1: it is normal, Lena is not It is probably abnormal
Speaker 1: for a forty six year old man to have the
Speaker 1: libido of a sixteen year old, right, No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's shaking her head. You're normal, that's a normal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I told you. I told you and my
Speaker 1: wife that shit. But nobody wanted to listen to me, Lena.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to listen to me. Everybody is like, no,
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you. There's something wrong with you,
Speaker 1: and there's something wrong with your insides, and you need
Speaker 1: to see therapy. You need to see therapy. You need
Speaker 1: to go talk to somebody about your freaking libido. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe Lena can. Maybe Lena can give you a note
Speaker 1: for Casey that says this is perfect prescription to Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let me go get a hold on No no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, no no no, come on.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about fix your life. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we can fix your life, but if there's
Speaker 1: any way we can, you missed donald. She's got two
Speaker 1: teenage daughters in addition and as a single mom in
Speaker 1: addition to being a nurse. So she's got a lot
Speaker 1: of doctor student. Yeah, kin, a doctor, you got a
Speaker 1: lot on your plate there, right, How can we fix
Speaker 1: your So this is I just want your advice. This
Speaker 1: is what I really need from you guys, because you
Speaker 1: are artists and you understand what this is like. Being
Speaker 1: a nurse was never my dream. I actually went to
Speaker 1: college from musical theater and then got pregnant, had to
Speaker 1: get a real job with health insurance, went to nursing school,
Speaker 1: probably because of scrubs. I'm not gonna lie the times
Speaker 1: up and uh now I'm I'm a mom and I'm
Speaker 1: a nurse. And so I did a lot of community theater,
Speaker 1: and then that wasn't an option anymore because I was
Speaker 1: too busy. So what I did was I sat down
Speaker 1: and wrote a book. I wrote a fiction. I sort
Speaker 1: of just wrote my own fantasy world that I got
Speaker 1: to escape into since I couldn't be an actress anymore.
Speaker 1: And I felt really good about it. I was really
Speaker 1: passionate about it. I was very excited. And then eighteen
Speaker 1: rejections later from agents, I had somebody who said, I'll
Speaker 1: take a look at it, but you have to cut
Speaker 1: out roughly forty thousand words. So I said, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I have all these
Speaker 1: people who have read it, they love it. I've read it,
Speaker 1: I've edited it. I don't want to take any more
Speaker 1: out of it. I'm going to self publish, right So
Speaker 1: I got the website, I got the TikTok, I got
Speaker 1: seventy five hundred followers on TikTok, I put a little
Speaker 1: teaser about the book. Everyone seemed excited, and then I
Speaker 1: really started looking at self published, and I thought, if
Speaker 1: I really want to do this, I need to get
Speaker 1: a kickstarter, but I don't have the time. I don't
Speaker 1: We're gonna be your grit kickstarter because we're gonna look
Speaker 1: your website, what's the name of the book, and how
Speaker 1: do people find out about the book? So I guess
Speaker 1: my question was do I go for it or do
Speaker 1: I shelve it? But it sounds like you're saying just
Speaker 1: go for it. This is a place where dreams come truly.
Speaker 1: We shit, we tip pig, we pick up, we go
Speaker 1: to the store, we go to Staples, we get white boards,
Speaker 1: we get erasable markers, okay, and we take those markers
Speaker 1: to set board and and we write down our dreams
Speaker 1: and goals. Why do you have like a why do
Speaker 1: you sound like a preachro something? I like it because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Lena there. She needs to get
Speaker 1: up off her ass, go to the white bull and
Speaker 1: pick up erase a pin to the b and right
Speaker 1: down to wants to self publish our own book. Write
Speaker 1: it down, all right, reverend, Reverend, Reverend, there's so many
Speaker 1: babies on latching right now, so many babies aren't eating
Speaker 1: right now. But I'm super excited. All right, Well, Donald's right.
Speaker 1: We we really believe that you can manifest. We're big
Speaker 1: believers in manifesting from the white board. It sounds like
Speaker 1: it's already on your white board and you're about to
Speaker 1: get the biggest plug you you could ever get. Which
Speaker 1: is so funny you say that, Zack, because the way
Speaker 1: that I got on this podcast is that I'm a
Speaker 1: witch and I wrote a spell and I did a
Speaker 1: spell to get on this podcast. That a big That
Speaker 1: was a big right angle turn. By the way, much
Speaker 1: like much like this episode, there's a reveal at the
Speaker 1: end of the Caller, She's a witch. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to ruin Joel's big, big twist, but yeah, I'm a witch,
Speaker 1: and that's how I got myself on here. And so
Speaker 1: just like you said, Zach, I wanted to manifest this happening.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Are you really a witch? Because some
Speaker 1: people really are and really, which so that's my alt
Speaker 1: right behind me with your whiteboard right above it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make jokes or anything like. No,
Speaker 1: don't make jokes because I'm not religion. How do you
Speaker 1: how do you practice and science at the same time.
Speaker 1: How are you able to do? Donald? That's such a
Speaker 1: good question, very good question. Donal. Weed must be wearing off.
Speaker 1: It's such a good question. So no, the weed is
Speaker 1: kicking it. You thought that you thought I took a
Speaker 1: break because the computer went down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: need to go smoke some reeds. So yeah, something tells
Speaker 1: me you dropped out of the zoom it right right
Speaker 1: around the time when you needed a fucking it. I
Speaker 1: dropped out right around four twenty. That's dropped out. Yeah
Speaker 1: all right, So Lena, we can't go down a giant
Speaker 1: witchcraft world. But Donald, that's a great question. How do
Speaker 1: you reconcile spells and science? So the human body is
Speaker 1: made up of energy and electricity, so is everything around us.
Speaker 1: And if you go all the way back to the
Speaker 1: pagan belief, back back, back back back, their belief was
Speaker 1: very much about manipulating the energy that is around us,
Speaker 1: that all the energy is. We're all connected, all of us,
Speaker 1: and they believed in honoring that. So if you very quickly,
Speaker 1: to make this super super quick, if you look at
Speaker 1: the rivers of chi that are drawn out by the
Speaker 1: Chinese back back back back, it actually lines up with
Speaker 1: the nervous system. So way way back before we even
Speaker 1: had science, people knew that there was something greater than
Speaker 1: all of us, that we were all connected, that by
Speaker 1: caring for the earth, we were caring for ourselves. For
Speaker 1: caring for each other, we're caring for ourselves. And so
Speaker 1: I think there is a room for Western medicine and
Speaker 1: Eastern medicine. If you want to manifest something in your life,
Speaker 1: ZAC you actually save us a lot on the podcast.
Speaker 1: You have more magical thinking than you probably realize. But
Speaker 1: if you want to manifest things, you're manipulating the energy
Speaker 1: around you and you're creating it to happen. However, if
Speaker 1: somebody in front of you goes into respiratory, just dress
Speaker 1: and drops. You don't want to burn incense. You want
Speaker 1: to care for them. And that's that we were lucky
Speaker 1: that we were able to understand Western medicine but still
Speaker 1: hold on the Eastern medicine. So I do believe that
Speaker 1: there is a place for both things. But I do
Speaker 1: think that when it comes to things like creating what
Speaker 1: you want in life, that there is a way to
Speaker 1: honor that and honor the things around you. And I
Speaker 1: think that my job is a nurse honors all of
Speaker 1: the people out in this world. It cares for life,
Speaker 1: and because of that, I get a lot of abundance
Speaker 1: back in return. I'm very lucky in that sense. But
Speaker 1: I do think that there's room for everything. I think
Speaker 1: that all of us can be in harmony, and that
Speaker 1: includes Western and Eastern, so that includes magical thinking as
Speaker 1: well as science. If that makes sense. Yeah, I mean sorry,
Speaker 1: it was really quick. It wasn't It makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. It's like, you know, it's believing in religion
Speaker 1: and also believing that science it can exist with religion
Speaker 1: as well, and I totally get it, absolutely absolutely so.
Speaker 1: If you're sitting at the bedside of somebody who's dying,
Speaker 1: of course you're going to pray for them, but you're
Speaker 1: also going to want the doctor to do everything they
Speaker 1: can to try and keep that person alive. And that's
Speaker 1: where I really try to honor both things. Well, we
Speaker 1: hear that, We hear you, and we respect you, and
Speaker 1: we respect all religions and belief systems. So wait, so
Speaker 1: tell everyone how to do you do you got a cat?
Speaker 1: I just want to know. Do you have a cat?
Speaker 1: I do? Is it a black cat? No? You are right?
Speaker 1: And its name is Sebastian? All right? And the interest
Speaker 1: of and the interest of episode line? Alright, how do
Speaker 1: we how do we are out of time of Lena?
Speaker 1: But tell us how to find your book? Tell everyone
Speaker 1: how to find your books. Yeah, so if you want
Speaker 1: to find my TikTok, I'm all nurse all the time.
Speaker 1: All my information is on there. And my website is
Speaker 1: uh Lena l E n A NASSERI and a z
Speaker 1: as in zebra a r ei dot com and you
Speaker 1: can find all the information on there. And I guess
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a kickstarter, so watch for it. What's
Speaker 1: the title of the book. But what's the title of
Speaker 1: the bight Shift. It's about a night shift nurse who
Speaker 1: becomes a vampire night shift. That's well, you know, you
Speaker 1: know how we do because we got a little story
Speaker 1: that we like to talk about about a doctor who
Speaker 1: becomes a vampire. And his name is doctor Acula. Nice Donald,
Speaker 1: you like it. There's a lot of sex in the book.
Speaker 1: It's very sexy. There's a lot of what sex, sex
Speaker 1: sex Donald could use it. Wait, hold on, I'm sorry, Lena,
Speaker 1: I think you have me confused for someone else. Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: apologize I I I can't even continue this with a
Speaker 1: straight face. All right, I'm very interesting. You've been an
Speaker 1: awesome guest. Thank you for being a frontline worker and
Speaker 1: for all that you're doing, and and please stay safe,
Speaker 1: and thank you for coming on. You're an awesome guest.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, very thank you to be Well,
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll be right back after these
Speaker 1: fine words. There were so many chapters to that call.
Speaker 1: That was a big that was that was truly. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's Joel. Did you know she was going to drop
Speaker 1: the witch bomb at the end? Hell? Yeah, Why do
Speaker 1: you think I picked her? I was, sister, let's do it?
Speaker 1: You were? You were? You were probably like, what's she
Speaker 1: gonna start talking about the witches? Which I was worried.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna get in there. Well, she had a
Speaker 1: lot to say, and she's very interesting. But I thought
Speaker 1: that Donald thought that she was kidding. And that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait, I didn't think she's kidding
Speaker 1: because she's like she has all her witch gear behind her.
Speaker 1: I didn't think she was of like frontline work and
Speaker 1: nursing and dating. And then all of a sudden she's
Speaker 1: so also, yeah, I'm a witch. And so your book
Speaker 1: is about the book is a sexy book about a
Speaker 1: nurse vampire. I mean that woman in America. I'll doorly Lena,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, yeah, you should go on that pitch
Speaker 1: that pitch thing. What's the pitch thing on Twitter? Joel
Speaker 1: pitch thing on Twitter? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: I thought you might know about it. It's like when
Speaker 1: writers pitch their ideas and they they like. It's like
Speaker 1: they they put out like a byeline or not a byline.
Speaker 1: They put out like a one sentence thing about what
Speaker 1: the plot of their thing is, and then they hope
Speaker 1: that publishers or agents respond to them. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Yes, they do. It's called a
Speaker 1: Twitter pitch. It's sometimes thrown by different publishing companies. Is
Speaker 1: according to Google, sometimes just sort of ramped up where
Speaker 1: people are like, hey, just go for it. I guess
Speaker 1: agents do it sometimes too, but it's sort of it's
Speaker 1: called like pitch mod or something. I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: like there's days where it's like, hey, everybody gets pitch
Speaker 1: mod and I'll be pitching my new book and anyway,
Speaker 1: I digress. So, Donald, what's up? Brother? We should we
Speaker 1: have a surprise for everybody, and that is that when
Speaker 1: we're done with our show, Joshua Rayden is gonna sing
Speaker 1: and perform Winter Live for all of you, which is
Speaker 1: a pretty nice treat, Donald, don't you think you know?
Speaker 1: I was hoping for a concert the whole episode. I
Speaker 1: thought that's what we were going to do. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize we were gonna, you know, talk about the show.
Speaker 1: And I think Lena was going to be that interesting,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But you know, okay, she
Speaker 1: she spoke my language, obviously. Yeah. I think it's only
Speaker 1: right that if we have josh on the show, of course,
Speaker 1: that we ask him. He could say, he could decline,
Speaker 1: he could say no, I wouldn't have had him on.
Speaker 1: I just want to go through a couple more things
Speaker 1: I love in the show. Before Josh sings gay Chicken along.
Speaker 1: Gay Chicken was funny, you and I used to actually
Speaker 1: play gay Chicken. Yeah. I uh, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: tough one to win, you know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: always wins that one. Well, I'm willing, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: kiss you, because you're willing to make out. If you're
Speaker 1: willing to make out, if you're willing to make out,
Speaker 1: then you're always the winner. I wanted to say. Leonard
Speaker 1: playing playing gin and smoking a cigarette in the hospital
Speaker 1: using his claw hand I thought was funny. I think
Speaker 1: it's hilarious that JD slept with both Sullivan sisters. Right,
Speaker 1: I've had sex with both Sullivan sisters, I laughed. I
Speaker 1: mean shower shorts. Did you think that shower shorts was
Speaker 1: in this episode? I didn't. I didn't know it was
Speaker 1: in there. And also this went on into a different
Speaker 1: television show, didn't It didn't. It's become your Arrested Development character.
Speaker 1: Didn't your Arrested No no no, Because in Arrested Development
Speaker 1: they have a running seam where never nude David Cross
Speaker 1: is a never nude. He's never naked. He wears Jeane
Speaker 1: shorts underneath all his clothes. Josh Raiden loves that show,
Speaker 1: and I was lucky enough to be on that show
Speaker 1: as a fellow never nude. So yes, I guess that's
Speaker 1: that's wise that you're saying there is overlap and that
Speaker 1: both JD and my character and Arrested Development do not
Speaker 1: shower fully nude. We're a fucking never nude. That it
Speaker 1: was hilarious. Portion DROSSI goes, you're a fucking never nude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so funny. I got to be a never
Speaker 1: nude and shower shorts for the man who has nothing
Speaker 1: to hide but still wants to That is one of
Speaker 1: the funniest jokes. And it's got a wallet. It's got
Speaker 1: a shower short that had me rolling the shower shorts
Speaker 1: with the with the wallet that zips back and when
Speaker 1: he pulls it and it zips back, and where does
Speaker 1: it smack him? That's what I want to know. As
Speaker 1: no in the ass, I do a little jump. Okay,
Speaker 1: you and your male talking. Your male talking is hilarious. Dude,
Speaker 1: your mole, your mold, what does it say? It says
Speaker 1: that you know that's my voice. And I actually did
Speaker 1: the puppet for that too, for the mole. As we
Speaker 1: operated the puppet, I operated the puppet for the mold.
Speaker 1: The mold was my bow and my hand in the mold. Well,
Speaker 1: the mall was very funny. I don't know why the
Speaker 1: mall wasn't a recurring character that I would have thought
Speaker 1: the moll would have come back, but I guess not.
Speaker 1: I don't know why Bill didn't ever bring the mall back,
Speaker 1: but that was great. Elliot's Bunyan at the end, when
Speaker 1: the doctor sees and the nurse passes out, you know
Speaker 1: whenever these whenever a nurse is like a not a
Speaker 1: normal one of the regular like background nurses, and you
Speaker 1: just know she's going to be a stunt woman because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't recognize that woman. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden she took a big fall
Speaker 1: when she fainted it and I was like, oh, she
Speaker 1: must have been a stunt woman. That was funny. That
Speaker 1: was very funny. She must have been a stunt woman
Speaker 1: because it was a perfect fall too. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: the word was piance. We should talk about this the
Speaker 1: whole show before Ted the lawyer has lost one of
Speaker 1: his band members, is threatening to quit, and the show
Speaker 1: opens up even with it, You'll always be a worthless peon.
Speaker 1: You're nothing more than a worthless peon and then he
Speaker 1: turns to you know, after Ted hangs up, the phony
Speaker 1: turns to Kelso. When he goes, doctor Kelso, my band,
Speaker 1: the Worthless Peons has just lost a member. I think
Speaker 1: this must be the moment that we learned the name
Speaker 1: of the band the word yea, it is because they
Speaker 1: are all worthless peons. I mean that's how they all
Speaker 1: work at the hospital and feel like their their peons
Speaker 1: to everybody. Yeah. And then also Carla talking about how
Speaker 1: she's a candy bar. The Espinoza is a candy bar,
Speaker 1: and then Ted asks her does the Espinoza have nugata
Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah, that was funny. I thought I
Speaker 1: thought he was doing that like as a sexual thing,
Speaker 1: like trying to be like trying to flirt. No, he
Speaker 1: just likes No, I think he's trying to flirt. I
Speaker 1: think it's a flirty flirt. Let's let's get to the
Speaker 1: cemetery where it all goes down. Eighteen forty nine is
Speaker 1: when we see the first shot of the cemetery. And
Speaker 1: you know, this has been like the most common meme
Speaker 1: that's ever been sent to me. Though, where do you
Speaker 1: think we are? A moment that happens at nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 1: I got goose bumps. I have to say when when
Speaker 1: it happened, even though I knew it was coming. It's
Speaker 1: just a really cool sixth cents reveal. Yeah, and well
Speaker 1: acted by John C. McGinley. Also yes, and the whole
Speaker 1: episode well yeah, Zach, absolutely absolutely, you know what, I
Speaker 1: know you need it so absolutely I don't need it.
Speaker 1: It's not about me. Johnny's incredible in this episode, and
Speaker 1: especially at the end when he's crying, it's very moving.
Speaker 1: He's very good at it. And and watching them all
Speaker 1: sit Jordan, Danny and Johnny's sitting watching the funeral as
Speaker 1: he's you know, lowered into the ground and everything like that,
Speaker 1: I was wondering, who's going to be the one to know,
Speaker 1: because you forget these things, Who's the one Like I
Speaker 1: was wondering, does Danny lean on Jordan? Is Jordan's gonna
Speaker 1: lean on Cox's Cox? You know? How does this? How
Speaker 1: does this end? Because there needs to be a moment
Speaker 1: that you know, this family can you know, grieve together
Speaker 1: because we're not really you don't really see it, you
Speaker 1: just see you know. And this is a very strong
Speaker 1: and stone Wall fan like, these guys are very mean
Speaker 1: to each other, and I was like, where's the break?
Speaker 1: Who's gonna break? And when Jordan grabs Cox, that's the
Speaker 1: first one. But then when JD puts his hand on
Speaker 1: Cox and he's willing to accept, he's willing, and he's
Speaker 1: willing to receive the love from well, he's gonna receive
Speaker 1: it from Jordan, but to receive it from his from
Speaker 1: his colleague, from his work buddy. Very powerful moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very moving. And Jordan's character isn't someone who's going
Speaker 1: to emote, and sob and Johnny sees you think isn't either,
Speaker 1: but he just finally lets go and she looks over
Speaker 1: at him, and it's very moving. It's beautifully done. I'm
Speaker 1: so we're very blessed and lucky to have the Josh
Speaker 1: here who's going to sing live for you and Josh,
Speaker 1: are you ready? Is everything tuned? Is the capo set?
Speaker 1: I know all the lingo Well, I just want to
Speaker 1: stay one last thing before we get into the raiding situation.
Speaker 1: Josh Man, I didn't get to finish this earlier. I
Speaker 1: remember watching you in Hotel Cafe me many more, Mega,
Speaker 1: Kelly and Zach Braft the only people in the place
Speaker 1: us and the bartender and you and the sound guy.
Speaker 1: That's it flash cut to you at the Troopadore the
Speaker 1: first time you played at the Trooperdoor Fire. One of
Speaker 1: the best moments of my life to this day. To
Speaker 1: be able to say, to be able to say, I
Speaker 1: knew you when this was freaking a whimsical idea and
Speaker 1: now look at you now. It's it's always it always
Speaker 1: makes me smile to walk into an auditorium and hear
Speaker 1: you perform, and then not only that, to watch the
Speaker 1: people listening to you, like I've seen a thugged out dude,
Speaker 1: like somebody that looks like the dude that was on
Speaker 1: the skateboard with the with the with the ocean spray,
Speaker 1: seen somebody like that at your concert doing exactly what
Speaker 1: he's doing to the Stevie Nick song, singing and along
Speaker 1: to the Fleetwood Max song. I've seen that, I've seen
Speaker 1: I've seen you touch people like that, and it's just
Speaker 1: so powerful to see. So without any further doo, y'all,
Speaker 1: I've said enough. Joshua. All right, here's josh Raiden with
Speaker 1: with Winter, the first song he ever wrote. I should
Speaker 1: know who I am. I know I mark the record
Speaker 1: stand somehow cannot under your name is the splenter inside
Speaker 1: me while I'm wait. I remember the sound of your
Speaker 1: November Downtown, and I remember the truth I worn December
Speaker 1: will you. But I don't have to make this mistake,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to stay this way. If only
Speaker 1: I've made the walk, that's all and cleared by now.
Speaker 1: Your voice, it's all I hear somehow calling out winter.
Speaker 1: Your voice is the splenter inside me while I waited,
Speaker 1: and I remember the sound if your November Downtown. I
Speaker 1: remember the truth. I want December with you. But I
Speaker 1: don't have to make this mistake, and I don't have
Speaker 1: to stay this way. If only I wad I could
Speaker 1: have lost myself in rough blue waters in your eyes,
Speaker 1: and I miss you still. I remember the sound off
Speaker 1: your November Downtown. I remember the truth. I warm December
Speaker 1: with you. But I don't have to make this mistake,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to stay this way. If only
Speaker 1: I wait, m YEA wow you want with That's so beautiful, Josh,
Speaker 1: Thank you. When I hear that song, I go, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I know the guy who who wrote and
Speaker 1: sings that. It's just such beautiful poetry. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: It's very kind and thank you for starting my career.
Speaker 1: Well I I if it wasn't me, it would have
Speaker 1: been somebody else. Well, you never know. Josh. Remind people
Speaker 1: how if they want to do this this thing, they
Speaker 1: can book you uh to play to my website Joshua
Speaker 1: Rayden dot com R A D I N and you'll
Speaker 1: see it right there. It's very simple. I change the
Speaker 1: website so it's very simple. It's it's top Joshua raidin
Speaker 1: dot Topeka Live. You'll see the link. You'll see all
Speaker 1: the options and which the money goes to. But you
Speaker 1: can have Josh play for your loved ones, maybe even
Speaker 1: maybe even you know this as a holiday gift for
Speaker 1: someone and back when the world reopens and concerts everything again,
Speaker 1: make sure to go see Josh play live. Travels all
Speaker 1: over the world. It's very popular in Europe, right Josh.
Speaker 1: Josh is like Bruce Springsteen and Sweden not very popular
Speaker 1: of Sweden. No, I have a small cult following coup
Speaker 1: of people who know my songs from medical shows. But
Speaker 1: that's very no. And and Josh, that's that's that you're
Speaker 1: you're exactly You're You're you're what are you being here
Speaker 1: just being dismissive of yourself. You're being self deprecating, Josh Donald,
Speaker 1: you're still here with us? Well I'm here though. Can
Speaker 1: we can we just have Donald admit to everyone that
Speaker 1: I did not mess up my own song? Okay? Fine?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what you're waiting for? He came
Speaker 1: on the podcast? So look all right, So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Remind you were you
Speaker 1: did mind listeners? What was said? I said that he blew.
Speaker 1: He messed up his own song. It didn't mess up
Speaker 1: his own song. You messed it up by not singing
Speaker 1: the whole song straight through, like you forgot some words here.
Speaker 1: I didn't forget anyone. This is the thing. But I
Speaker 1: will say this the stairs. Well say that has happened.
Speaker 1: And I know you've been talking all day. Moment, Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, let him have his moment. I'm running the stairs.
Speaker 1: When the podcast started listening to this thing, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you start talking about me and how
Speaker 1: you asked me to play your your in Casey's first
Speaker 1: dance at your wedding, and you asked for one of
Speaker 1: my songs, and it was you asked for the song Paperweight,
Speaker 1: which at the time, I went for about eight years
Speaker 1: or something without playing that song live. It was too painful.
Speaker 1: I wrote it with my ex and when we split up,
Speaker 1: I just decided I didn't want to play anymore. Now
Speaker 1: I play it, it's been whatever, it's been time you
Speaker 1: would has played it together yet? No, No, we haven't seen.
Speaker 1: We haven't hung out in years and years. I would
Speaker 1: love to see that. Oh we should get that on
Speaker 1: the show. That would be dope, but I would for
Speaker 1: sure either way. What I'm saying is, you asked me
Speaker 1: to play a song of mine called they Bring Me
Speaker 1: to You, and so I did. But the live version
Speaker 1: of that song is a different version than the recording. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, because you have a female singing with you
Speaker 1: and it's just so much different production. But when you
Speaker 1: solo acoustic life, So you have to remember, I'm running
Speaker 1: the stairs listening to your podcast and I hear you
Speaker 1: do your Oprah voice of like that he fucked up
Speaker 1: his own song, and I'm like, I spit out my water.
Speaker 1: I started laughing. So and then of course I texted
Speaker 1: you right afterwards. I'm like, what are you talking about it?
Speaker 1: Right away you were like, first of all, I did
Speaker 1: not fuck up. I just want the audience to know that.
Speaker 1: Donald asked Josh to sing him and his wife's first
Speaker 1: song in his wedding and then made fun of him
Speaker 1: on front of thousands of people because he didn't like
Speaker 1: the version. Josh sang, it's me, it's me, all right,
Speaker 1: we've gone two hours, don't know. We don't entertain you.
Speaker 1: I know, right, I just but ye that being said,
Speaker 1: But I do love and I love you too, that
Speaker 1: being said though. Man. At my wedding, when we were
Speaker 1: sitting up in Zach's house getting ready myself, Josh and Zach,
Speaker 1: Josh sits down and he starts drumming on the guitar
Speaker 1: and uh just start singing. And he writes a song
Speaker 1: at my wedding. And I then hear the song maybe
Speaker 1: like a year later on a plane ride to New York,
Speaker 1: and I remember hitting him up and being like, dude,
Speaker 1: that song you wrote at my wedding is playing on
Speaker 1: the plane and it's the one where it's like it's
Speaker 1: a wedding, it's a freaking love song, man. And I
Speaker 1: can't remember I remember, but it's like if you go
Speaker 1: something like, I'll find you something. Come on I haven't
Speaker 1: played that song and forever. You wrote that at my wedding,
Speaker 1: and so I have to find it now so that
Speaker 1: Daniel could play it out if you laid it down,
Speaker 1: josh right. It's available to an album called of mine,
Speaker 1: called wax Wings, called Daniel. It's on wax Wings. Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody. The onesies Joelle told me are are restocked
Speaker 1: on twelve eighteen. If you want to give the love
Speaker 1: of me and Donald on your body, and thank you
Speaker 1: to Daniel, Joelle, Lena, our guests. And here is Joshua
Speaker 1: Raden with the song Donald, just beautifully, because what's the
Speaker 1: call when we're together? When we're together, y'all? Basteg an
Speaker 1: sky and the water fire at nights, no pleasure without sacrifice,
Speaker 1: the shore and the ocean, the moon sun, one way
Speaker 1: without the other. Had boat done? Now? I believe you
Speaker 1: what's supposed to be supposed to be you and with
Speaker 1: you forever because we're the bestgether a with you forever.
Speaker 1: You are the only one, and we've just been done.
Speaker 1: The waiting roachs and fall on my shore. Your glass
Speaker 1: is empty, our purse and more I left the table
Speaker 1: lack of mus give any time to search for you now.
Speaker 1: I believe you what's supposed to be supposed to meet
Speaker 1: you and me. I with you forever, cause we're the
Speaker 1: best were together. I with you forever. You are only one,
Speaker 1: and we've just been gone one down nowas to reach
Speaker 1: to the sky that I come to. If you forget,
Speaker 1: I do my best to try to remind you. I
Speaker 1: with you forever, cause we are the best when we're together.
Speaker 1: Forever you ady one, and we've just been gone with
Speaker 1: you forever with you forever you are one, and we've
Speaker 1: just become