Speaker 1: Hi, guys, what you're trying to get into a day
Speaker 1: of Shoot, what you're trying to do? That's a ring
Speaker 1: tone right there. That's a fire soong, by the way.
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, since I told them our
Speaker 1: listeners about it and you remind you about it, I've
Speaker 1: been singing it NonStop. It's like, you know how you
Speaker 1: usually get like a summer hooky song in your head.
Speaker 1: My summer hookie song in my head is what you're
Speaker 1: trying to get in. I damn wrong. That's amazing because
Speaker 1: twenty years ago your summer song was turned me inside out.
Speaker 1: So I can't speak because you're everywhere when I Branch
Speaker 1: knows how many shoutouts she gets on this podcast. Yeah
Speaker 1: she should know because she's not alone. Oh I I
Speaker 1: think Michelle Branch must be aware that how many times
Speaker 1: over the years I've spoken about her. Do you think
Speaker 1: Michelle Brandt gives two ships about us? Do you think? Yes?
Speaker 1: I think Michelle brand likes any people that are talking
Speaker 1: about a song she wrote twenty years ago. I hear that, man.
Speaker 1: I know what happened to her. She joined so she
Speaker 1: she I think she got married, had kids, joined a
Speaker 1: band doesn't mean she gave up her musical. She did.
Speaker 1: She was. She's in a band right now. It's her
Speaker 1: and another young lady and they do they do music together?
Speaker 1: Would they do? As long as they cover every do me?
Speaker 1: They do? Very they do? Uh? That very good. Casey
Speaker 1: put me onto them because you know Casey works in
Speaker 1: music sometimes. And she put me onto them and was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: she's dope. She joined a band. I rocked. I rocked
Speaker 1: out to her in my trouble. You know, I've be
Speaker 1: thinking about putting my my, my, my sort of girl
Speaker 1: pop workout list on the on on on the web,
Speaker 1: so people can do that ship, do that ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it needs that. Yeah, people listen. I can never
Speaker 1: find a workout playlist that suits my needs. A lot
Speaker 1: of people clearly agree with you on on rap and
Speaker 1: hip hop because if you go on like the standard
Speaker 1: playlist sun iTunes or wherever, they're all like that and
Speaker 1: and like hits one is all like stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: listen to do you don't listen to the Wu Tang.
Speaker 1: I don't listen to No, I don't listen to wotang.
Speaker 1: Do you know who? But you know who method Man is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course he was in Garden State. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: But you know he's in that. You do know that
Speaker 1: he is in a band with about twelve people. Can
Speaker 1: you name poll the Wu Tang members. There's Woo, there's Tang,
Speaker 1: there's clan. I'm gonna say some names and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, I've heard of them, of course,
Speaker 1: A dirty bastard. Of course I've heard of him. He was,
Speaker 1: he was, he died, right, Yes he did. Yeah, I've heard.
Speaker 1: I can picture him. We hung out with him one
Speaker 1: night and you spell it r z A. I know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we hung out at Chateau. He came through and kicked
Speaker 1: it with us that night we were hanging. You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to talk about Chateau on this actually, so let
Speaker 1: me take that back. But you know, what happens at
Speaker 1: the chateau is supposed to stay at chateau. Right now,
Speaker 1: you can't be dropping Shateau things. I hung out with
Speaker 1: Drake at the Shotsau. Wance you see, look at you
Speaker 1: spilling the beans? Okay, go ahead? Who else? Riza O
Speaker 1: d method Man, method Man, ghost face killer. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: heard of him. I can't picture his face. I can't. God,
Speaker 1: you God, I don't know you God the jisa, I
Speaker 1: don't know the jis. That's the genius. Uh inspector deck.
Speaker 1: There you go. Wow, there's a big band. A lot
Speaker 1: of people in this band. Oh yeah, it's a huge band.
Speaker 1: You really like their music a lot? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I smoke on the mic, like smoking Joe Frasier, the
Speaker 1: hell raizor raising hell with the flavor, terrorizing jams like
Speaker 1: troops in Pakistan, swinging through your town like a neighborhood
Speaker 1: spot and man so um TikTok keep ticking. Come on now,
Speaker 1: you don't know nothing about the boot tang came yo
Speaker 1: m e t h o d man m e t
Speaker 1: h o d man. Hey, you get off my cloud.
Speaker 1: You don't know me, and you don't know my down
Speaker 1: you don't notice. No. I have a question though, when
Speaker 1: you when you have a big like rap supergroup like that,
Speaker 1: are there they all dirty? Baby? I got your money,
Speaker 1: don't you worry? I said, Hey, yeah, that's before you
Speaker 1: go into another song. I have a question. Do they
Speaker 1: all take turns like I'm gonna wrap now? All right
Speaker 1: now you're up, you wrapped now that kind of thing
Speaker 1: like like like they take turns well, some of them
Speaker 1: have like a connection. So you remember run DMC growing
Speaker 1: up right, Yes, yes, yes, the Adidas my Adidas, Right,
Speaker 1: those two had a connection. So when they rapped, they could,
Speaker 1: when they rom they could bounce off of each other.
Speaker 1: Some people it's like you and I, how we have
Speaker 1: a good uh how we have good chemistry? Same thing
Speaker 1: with rappers, and you look for when you're a rapper,
Speaker 1: you look for that person that you have chemistry. Drake
Speaker 1: and Future have really good chemistry together. So they do
Speaker 1: a lot of records together. Um, and so it's the
Speaker 1: same thing you know, uh in in the Wu Tang
Speaker 1: because it was so big, the woo was so big,
Speaker 1: there are little tiny groups withinside the sub groups within
Speaker 1: the woo. Right, So ghost Face and uh ghost Face
Speaker 1: and Ray Kwana Chef, that's the one I forgot to mention.
Speaker 1: I should have put Ray Kwana. He got the best.
Speaker 1: He got probably the best bill for Cuban Links is
Speaker 1: probably the best Wu Tang record in my opinion. It's
Speaker 1: got so many good songs on it. Anyway, Ghost Facing
Speaker 1: Ray Kwan do very well together and on record, they
Speaker 1: bounce off of each other very well. So they are
Speaker 1: uh now, who's your favorite if you had to pick
Speaker 1: one member of the Wu Tang clan that's like your
Speaker 1: favorite rapper in the group, the Jessa, the Genius, I
Speaker 1: like him a lot. I liked O d B a lot.
Speaker 1: I like I like Meth Method man, I like I
Speaker 1: like all of who To be honest, are they ghost face?
Speaker 1: Got somebody? Still life? The world's normal? Do they still tour?
Speaker 1: I hope? So it's a lot the egos. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Man, how do you do that?
Speaker 1: How do you that's like? Look, the Jackson five couldn't
Speaker 1: stay together and they were brothers. How do you do
Speaker 1: when we go on the road eventually touring this show,
Speaker 1: I feel like your ego is gonna sore like an
Speaker 1: eagle out of control. It depends on if they you're
Speaker 1: gonna have demands you're gonna have in your rider. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be all sorts of rules, no eye contact. It
Speaker 1: all depends on how loud they applaud for me. If
Speaker 1: they applaud for you louder than they applaud from me,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'll fall into a little you know,
Speaker 1: I'll back into it going applaud for me more than
Speaker 1: they applaud for you. You damn right, man, I want
Speaker 1: my bus to be bigger. Yeah, we're gonna measure up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have the same bus. Listen when Dan, We're
Speaker 1: gonna bring Dan and Joel and Dan's gonna bring his
Speaker 1: thunderous applause button so we'll be able to augment whatever
Speaker 1: the crowd does. We'll be able to augment the audience.
Speaker 1: You ever, We'll look at an award show and you
Speaker 1: hear the applause on an award show, and then you
Speaker 1: look around and no one's clapping, like like like no
Speaker 1: one in an awards show is paying attention, so that
Speaker 1: they'd be they'd be like a third of them clapping,
Speaker 1: so they just augment all this thunderous applause. Well, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be what Dan is doing for us when we're
Speaker 1: on tour with this show. So before we before we
Speaker 1: start the show, Dan, I'll be like, all right, so
Speaker 1: I need some thunderous applause from you guys, okay everybody,
Speaker 1: and now I need some laughter, need some laughter, and
Speaker 1: gonna bring it. No, bro, He's just gonna bring it.
Speaker 1: It'll be, it'll be, it'll be a buttony. Well, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's gonna bring it. Dan always brings it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan's gonna bring it, dude, he's gonna bring it. Of
Speaker 1: course he brings it. Apause, I think we're probably gonna
Speaker 1: play arenas and um and we're gonna and we're gonna
Speaker 1: need to do sound checks at these arenas. If we
Speaker 1: play arenas, imagine that. Imagine we go to London and
Speaker 1: what's the big arena too, and we play the O two.
Speaker 1: That would be the best day of my life. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something right now, London, make it happens.
Speaker 1: Let's put it out there, like I'm sure. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we're gonna be playing like theaters, but in reality, let's
Speaker 1: secret it that we sell out the arena for fake
Speaker 1: doctor's real friends. That would be the best. That would
Speaker 1: be the best night of my life. Listen, you gotta
Speaker 1: put ship out there. I gotta put outrageous ship out
Speaker 1: there and and make it come true. Remember I told
Speaker 1: you about the white board. You get a white board
Speaker 1: and you write the most outrageous ship you want to
Speaker 1: have happened in your life, and you look at it
Speaker 1: every single day. Who'd you say, did that? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of people in my life and
Speaker 1: told me this. But the great anecdote I referenced on
Speaker 1: the show was I'm friends with John, the Legends manager,
Speaker 1: and they her name is Ty and they went to
Speaker 1: high school together. And she said when he first started,
Speaker 1: they got a big white board and they were putting
Speaker 1: them out. They were like, let's be outrageous, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, cover of Time magazine, like this, many Grammys.
Speaker 1: They were like sitting there laughing about the outrageous ship
Speaker 1: they were putting on this whiteboard. And she hern to
Speaker 1: me and she said, every single thing on that white
Speaker 1: board happened, and uh and and she said that now
Speaker 1: I do white boards with all my clients and and like,
Speaker 1: you know, so anyway, it's about manifesting. It's about making
Speaker 1: shit happen. I have a white board in my bedroom
Speaker 1: and I'll some something's on there are like goals I have,
Speaker 1: and something's on there are like outrageous. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: we're not gonna sell it, Arena, but I'm saying you can,
Speaker 1: you can, you know, put that ship on the board.
Speaker 1: It could happen. It happened for John Legend man. The
Speaker 1: dude's got egot. He got the egot let's make it happen. Dude, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we have to bring John Legend. If it was
Speaker 1: like if we opened for John Legend, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's call Legend. Yeah, man, listen, the guy's got an egot. Okay,
Speaker 1: so put your egot on your board. I believe in
Speaker 1: it because you look at the board every day and
Speaker 1: even your subconscious brain, your mind is going, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: find a way to work on that today. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make that call I I'm afraid to make. I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, some for some people, it's fitness. They're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I just looked at that white board
Speaker 1: and I gotta get on the trap bill today. I
Speaker 1: promise myself. I like this. I'm gonna I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: the white board in my in my bedroom, white share
Speaker 1: with Casey and gonna be like, baby, let's put the
Speaker 1: most outrageous on this board. I'm telling you listeners, this
Speaker 1: is the you know, Burnet Brown very popular. This is
Speaker 1: our Burnet Brown moment. This is our self help motivational
Speaker 1: moment on Fake Doctor's Real Friends. You can make anything happen. Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: I love this, I love this. I love you. I
Speaker 1: love that we did this together, the four of us
Speaker 1: and our and our listeners. What do you make that
Speaker 1: ship happen? Let's do it. I have a sweatshirt on
Speaker 1: today because of those Bieber things. No, it's Mickey Mouse,
Speaker 1: you know, my my, my forty something crisis is is
Speaker 1: being managed by just getting lots of tattoos. Nice. Good
Speaker 1: for you, man. I was always afraid to get tattoos
Speaker 1: because my father hated them. And when my sister died,
Speaker 1: I got her name in Hebrew on my on my arm,
Speaker 1: and my father kind of like was okay with that
Speaker 1: because it was, you know, meaningful and it was Hebrew.
Speaker 1: And then when he used away, like, I realized that
Speaker 1: so much. Even though I was in my forties, I
Speaker 1: still was so nervous about what my father would think.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, it's time to
Speaker 1: tattoo the ship out of myself right on. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a sleep soon. Well, I know about a sleep,
Speaker 1: but where do you want your face? When I get it?
Speaker 1: I was thinking my left aariola. I was thinking your
Speaker 1: face for sure. I mean, what if I did you
Speaker 1: on my pictoralis major and then listen and then your
Speaker 1: mouth was open, but then in your mouth was my
Speaker 1: left Gariola. That's weird. That's weird. I prefer you just
Speaker 1: got my face on your face, like you took my
Speaker 1: face and tattooed it on your face. He just had
Speaker 1: a whole episode about this stuff. No, I didn't say
Speaker 1: on his whole face, like my face on his cheeks.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't black face. If I jumped
Speaker 1: out on my face, Joel, can you imagine all you
Speaker 1: can see, all you can pick up his him painting
Speaker 1: my face on his face, and he wouldn't be face
Speaker 1: off chats, but like a tattoo four man. No, it
Speaker 1: would be an outline, Joel, Joel, it would be an outline.
Speaker 1: Joel's like now managing all of our black face issues.
Speaker 1: She's like, guys, sounding like that might be black Fred, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I got to chime in here. That sounds like it
Speaker 1: might be black, Joelie would be an outline. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be like colored in. It would be it would be
Speaker 1: an outline of Donald's face. Well, I would just want
Speaker 1: it on your cheek or on your forehead. You know.
Speaker 1: By the way, the guy who tattoos me told me
Speaker 1: that we were talking about all these young kids that
Speaker 1: are getting tattoos on their face and how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 1: And he said that he's really surprised that any of
Speaker 1: these artists are doing it because there's sort of this
Speaker 1: unwritten code amongst tattoo artists that you would never put
Speaker 1: a tattoo on a on a young person's face, and
Speaker 1: and because for obvious reasons, and he said, um, and
Speaker 1: and now that there's this fad of it happening, he
Speaker 1: thinks that're all just doing it for Instagram fame, because
Speaker 1: these kids are often, um, you know, famous people, and
Speaker 1: they're doing and saying, fuck it, I'm gonna get my
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of fame. But you know, I get these
Speaker 1: young people that are all tattooing the shut of their faces. Dude,
Speaker 1: you might not be able to get the money later,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, get the money now if
Speaker 1: you can. That's that's the that's the yolo man. You
Speaker 1: only live once. You know, you would tattoo a child's face. Donald,
Speaker 1: I'm not, First of all, I am not a tattoo artist,
Speaker 1: so I'll never have to put myself in this situation.
Speaker 1: You just told these guys and tattoos, someone's face. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that the reasoning behind it is this, dude, do
Speaker 1: you you don't listen. If scrubs didn't happen, you don't
Speaker 1: know what you would have done to make them to
Speaker 1: make ends meet. If you're acting, if you're acting and
Speaker 1: directing stuff, you know what I mean? You could have
Speaker 1: gone into a business that you might not be proud of.
Speaker 1: You might be Instagram model right now, the air and
Speaker 1: a thong talking about you. I love how these girls
Speaker 1: the Instagram influence people. He took like a little time
Speaker 1: off for COVID and the Black Lives Matter movement, and
Speaker 1: now they're all back, fucking tushes in the air, selling
Speaker 1: tea on some yacht and abisa. Oh god, yolo. Nobody
Speaker 1: says yolo anymore. They don't know TikTok dancing. I've been
Speaker 1: inside so long, I have no idea what the kids
Speaker 1: are saying. They're all on some old guy's yacht doing
Speaker 1: a TikTok dance. But you know what, they must have
Speaker 1: put that ship on a white board. Imagine that was
Speaker 1: on the white board. Imagine that's the white board. You
Speaker 1: want to be. That's their fucking white board. I want
Speaker 1: to be on a yacht, having somebody paid for it,
Speaker 1: making that Instagram money. That's what's up. That's what's there.
Speaker 1: It is. Go for yours, listen. That's what I say
Speaker 1: to everybody and anybody out there who has dreams and
Speaker 1: they want fame. As long as you don't disrespect nobody
Speaker 1: or hurt nobody, go for yours. Man. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you can try and go for something that's contributes to
Speaker 1: society in some meaningful way, sure you can on yourself
Speaker 1: later on. You got to everybody has something to say.
Speaker 1: I miss you so much at her, I miss you
Speaker 1: so much more. Dude, should we get into the show?
Speaker 1: Tom capitals here today. I'm so excited to count us
Speaker 1: in seven stories about a show we made about a
Speaker 1: bunch of dots and nurses. And Jan said, stories. So
Speaker 1: get around here? Are ya around here? What a show?
Speaker 1: What a show we have today? Donald, it's a really
Speaker 1: good episode. And the hilarious Tom Kavanaugh is here. We
Speaker 1: have so much to say. Let's just get in, Dan,
Speaker 1: allow him into the room. Here he comes. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him in years. I haven't seen him in years.
Speaker 1: Tom call applause, Damn thunders that there's applause. Look at
Speaker 1: how handsome here, it's like, look at here, growing look
Speaker 1: at him, like, look at the mirror. It's that's that's pandemic.
Speaker 1: You got the pandemic face going on? How you did
Speaker 1: get more handsome with age? Tom Cavanaugh? And I can
Speaker 1: say that because people think we look alike. This is true.
Speaker 1: I can say likewise, my friend, look at you guys,
Speaker 1: My goodness, grads um, so good, so good to see
Speaker 1: your faces. Holy. Are you living in Canada or do
Speaker 1: you live in the US? Still? Well, I live in
Speaker 1: New York, but I film a show in Canada, and
Speaker 1: when the pandemic hit, I stuck it up north. Hi, Joel,
Speaker 1: I'm Tom by the way. Yeah, I'm nice to meet
Speaker 1: you in person. I listen. I listened to you guys,
Speaker 1: so I've sort of been familiar with Do you know
Speaker 1: how to watch your show? Right? You know? I watched
Speaker 1: your show. I don't know that, but I know you
Speaker 1: have like twenty seven children, so I figured maybe in
Speaker 1: there in that demo somewhere. But now he's not watching
Speaker 1: it for his kids, he's watching it for so for me.
Speaker 1: I love the flash, dude, are you kidding me? Gotta
Speaker 1: dynamite cast Donald is your target Ammo, Tommy, watch all
Speaker 1: of this stuff. W is a bunch of teams? How
Speaker 1: does how did listen? Man? Are you fine? Is this
Speaker 1: the only wis? Listen? Man? Is this the only wells? Now?
Speaker 1: Are you the only well? Is this? Is this the
Speaker 1: final Wells? Because the Moti Verse, the crisis happened, and
Speaker 1: everything happened, and you know, there's only what like four
Speaker 1: earths five earths now in the whole arrow verse, and
Speaker 1: now Supergirl lives on Earth one with you guys, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. My point is, My point is, let
Speaker 1: the man speak to no, no, no, keep going really excited.
Speaker 1: I really do love the show. I really can love
Speaker 1: the show. Now you and Cisco Ramon together, I love
Speaker 1: Wells and Cisco Ramon. I love the whole thing. So look,
Speaker 1: my question is, are you the only Wells left? Now
Speaker 1: that you've gone off and you've become pariah and everything
Speaker 1: like that? Is this the only wells there is? Here's
Speaker 1: what's ridiculous about doing the show a superhero, a show.
Speaker 1: I run into people like like you, and I just
Speaker 1: I'm so inferior with my knowledge. I'm like, you know more,
Speaker 1: you know more than me, and I'm not exaggerating. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to play Donald like. I understand by listening
Speaker 1: to you that you have a better grasp of the
Speaker 1: whole thing than I do. I feel like, as you
Speaker 1: guys know, when you do a long running television show,
Speaker 1: if there needs to be another Wells, there can be
Speaker 1: another Wells. I thought, yeah, absolutely, here's the thing. Can
Speaker 1: you explain Donald? First of all, catch your breath now, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're embarrassing us in front of our guests. Listen, this
Speaker 1: is this is exactly what I did to George Lucas
Speaker 1: Man is exactly what I can get too hot. And
Speaker 1: by the way, when this show is over, he's gonna
Speaker 1: take a nap because he's gonna get woozy. He gets
Speaker 1: very amped up and then he gets woozy. This is
Speaker 1: This is all the fans out there who were wondering
Speaker 1: how I keeek out when I when I meet or
Speaker 1: talk to people that do something that I'm like holy
Speaker 1: shit about. This is it right here? I can't breathe
Speaker 1: right now, sweating. I know I have a sweatshirt on,
Speaker 1: but I'm sweating under here alright, But calm down now.
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, Tom is on
Speaker 1: the Flash. And as I understand it, with the c
Speaker 1: W superhero shows, you bounce around to the other shows
Speaker 1: in the same universe, right, that's all. They're all under
Speaker 1: the Greg Berlandy umbrella. I'm g the golden boy of
Speaker 1: Hollywood that used to bea Bell Lawrence is now Greg
Speaker 1: Berlanti and Ry has he has a four shows on
Speaker 1: the air. By my very first job, Tom Calvin Well
Speaker 1: first lead in the movie was Broken Hearts Club, Greg
Speaker 1: Berlandi's first movie. That's tremendous, and um and now and
Speaker 1: and and he we went to Northwestern together and he
Speaker 1: now he's like, has the most shows on television of anybody.
Speaker 1: You and I when we were talking about doing your podcast. Uh,
Speaker 1: the text that came up right next to that text
Speaker 1: the last time we talked, I can, I can I
Speaker 1: read a text that you as long as it's not
Speaker 1: like you up, it's quite we It's like four in
Speaker 1: the morning and I'm hammered you up. It's solid comedy.
Speaker 1: It's uh, you say, um, tell Berlantia want to do
Speaker 1: a cameos reverse Flash's brother. I say done. You say,
Speaker 1: totally unbuild though a surprise, but I'll need special powers.
Speaker 1: I say make a list, power list, nothing with heavy hammers.
Speaker 1: That ship is boring. You say laser eyes please, I
Speaker 1: would say those are free. That sounds great. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a miss. Why did that never happen? I
Speaker 1: feel like now I've done this and I know that
Speaker 1: don't wants to be on board. I feel like now
Speaker 1: it's now. Now you're forcing his hand because you're putting
Speaker 1: it out to the public and I was going to
Speaker 1: have to hire you. I we were talking about white
Speaker 1: boards and putting manifesting your destiny onto white boards. This
Speaker 1: is on my white board. I'm putting it out there
Speaker 1: right now. I want to call BERLANDI and I had
Speaker 1: to call him about something else. Um, but I'm want
Speaker 1: to call BERLANDI and say, listen, Tom said I could
Speaker 1: be on the show. Yeah. I had that kind of ball. Yes.
Speaker 1: I spoke to Tom. He said, like, hang on a second, Tom, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got He's got so many he's got so many shows.
Speaker 1: He's like Tom, Tom Tom Tom. He's like, I know
Speaker 1: he is, I know who he is. And then he
Speaker 1: called he calls to his secretary. Do we still do flash? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But by the way, how funny would that be if
Speaker 1: Donald and I came on. I mean, I don't. To
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't. I don't get breathless about this
Speaker 1: superhero stuff like Donald, but he really loves it. So sorry,
Speaker 1: I digress the point, you should do it. I know.
Speaker 1: The other thing you should do do you should figure
Speaker 1: out knowing it as you do. You should figure out
Speaker 1: what the what the role is that you want because
Speaker 1: I know what role I want, you want, I want
Speaker 1: to listen. I'm gonna put it out there. What do
Speaker 1: you want to hope you guys kind of opened it
Speaker 1: up when Arrow ended, and I know, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if you guys are allowed to touch it. You kind
Speaker 1: of touch on it in Star Girl. But I think
Speaker 1: Green Lantern needs to be in this you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Joel is a Joel is a big fan
Speaker 1: of this world too, and there's so many there are
Speaker 1: so many that are in the Lantern Court. And I
Speaker 1: know that you know. And also size doesn't matter when
Speaker 1: you're a lantern. You could be tiny, you could be why,
Speaker 1: you could be right, come on, man. Anyway, My point
Speaker 1: is I think that's one character that would be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, uh to play. You know, they entered
Speaker 1: there's so many people in the d C universe. But
Speaker 1: if I had a choice and they were willing to
Speaker 1: do it, I would love to be Green Lantern. And
Speaker 1: I think that's really special. And dear to Greg, so,
Speaker 1: I think that's great. You're making this happens. And the
Speaker 1: Green can the Green Lanterdy, he can be anything, he
Speaker 1: could be any. Look, I'm playing yellow. I'm wearing yellow
Speaker 1: super suit. And sorry, Tom, for those of us who
Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm sure of our listeners don't know,
Speaker 1: can you just explain in in non superhero terms, what
Speaker 1: reverse flash means? There is there a young guy flash. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a good looking It's kind of like when we
Speaker 1: did Scrub, Like a good looking, handsome guy is the lead,
Speaker 1: and then they cast this guy is his brother Bell
Speaker 1: Lawrence have lost a bet somewhere. So basically a young guy. Tom.
Speaker 1: When you insult your looks, you insult my looks, I apologize.
Speaker 1: So you're a handsome you look like real pit to
Speaker 1: me when you when you when you came on, I
Speaker 1: thought we got I thought we got Tom Kavanaugh. Why
Speaker 1: is Brad Pitt on the podcast? That's what that's what
Speaker 1: you thought? Okay, sorry? What is the reverse flash? For
Speaker 1: those of us. So he's the he's the Joker to
Speaker 1: the Batman, a Lex Luthor to the He's the bad
Speaker 1: guys that we have. A young fellow, Grant Gustin plays
Speaker 1: the Flash and the arch Enemy is the reverse Flash.
Speaker 1: He wears a red suit, and I play the arch Enemy,
Speaker 1: the reverse Flash of art On. I wear a yellow suit.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of it. Are you doing lots of
Speaker 1: stunts and fighting? Yeah? Yeah, can you imagine it's crazy?
Speaker 1: You know that bucket list that you have as a
Speaker 1: as an actor, and you want to do this theater,
Speaker 1: You want to do this show. You want to do
Speaker 1: something like you want the white board. Yeah, the white
Speaker 1: We started, we started the show time before we came on,
Speaker 1: talking about just manifesting things. A boy putting on a
Speaker 1: white board and staring at it. And it was weird
Speaker 1: to be in your green room and not have the
Speaker 1: speakers going, I'm like, I wonder what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: We were talking about you, we were talking about manifesting,
Speaker 1: and then you well, that's exactly. That's a great that's
Speaker 1: such a great call. This is one of those things
Speaker 1: I never would have expected to do a superhero show,
Speaker 1: and it's a you know, in terms of a bucket list,
Speaker 1: it's it's so fun. Yeah, you guys look like you
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun on it, and it has
Speaker 1: no end in sight. On your show, it has no
Speaker 1: end in sight. I mean, I just feel like they
Speaker 1: Greg Berlin keeps adding more and more to this, to
Speaker 1: this world, right, I don't know if they're all they
Speaker 1: all must be successful because they all keep going. I honestly,
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I never would have thought. I
Speaker 1: think when they started a number of years ago, they had, uh,
Speaker 1: they've done super you know, what was the Superman show?
Speaker 1: And um, and then they did the Arrow and Arrow
Speaker 1: I think did well. And then but when we started flash.
Speaker 1: You you guys, you guys all know how it is.
Speaker 1: We started flashing, I said to my wife, well, doesill
Speaker 1: be canceled? And seven So I'll go up to Vancouver
Speaker 1: from New York and we'll shoot and then it'll get canceled.
Speaker 1: Because even at that time I had done two shows
Speaker 1: for Greg and both of them had been canceled relatively quickly,
Speaker 1: because that's just how it goes. And so I didn't
Speaker 1: foresee it, you know, I just I never expected to
Speaker 1: go and this thing seemed to go. And even when
Speaker 1: you say there's no end in sight, I still expect
Speaker 1: that you'll just get the call that hey, so we're done.
Speaker 1: You just never know. For those who not in the
Speaker 1: entertainment story, we just we just never know. You know.
Speaker 1: You get you get a show like Scrubs and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this could go six episodes and then it goes nine
Speaker 1: years or you know, or or you know, Donald's did
Speaker 1: this show, um and it won a season, And I
Speaker 1: did a show one a season. You just you just
Speaker 1: have every single time, it's a roll the dice, no
Speaker 1: matter you know, no matter how many good ingredients there are,
Speaker 1: you just never know. Yeah, and most of the time
Speaker 1: the numbers are it's gonna get canceled. It's not going
Speaker 1: to go, especially now more than ever, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's there's so much content. How the hell does the
Speaker 1: something fine eyeballs? You know, when you're on you're on
Speaker 1: the classic old school true network. You know, um, you
Speaker 1: guys do twenty four episodes a season. Do you know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be able to do something? Most
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember I did a show called The
Speaker 1: Excess right after Scrubs. Right of course, we did ten
Speaker 1: episodes a season. That was it For an actor. It's like, wait, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, let's I want to be I want to
Speaker 1: work all year round if I possibly can. It was
Speaker 1: really weird to work ten episodes and then have all
Speaker 1: of this time off until you came back and did
Speaker 1: another ten or you would do what we would do
Speaker 1: thirty and they would just chop it up into episodes.
Speaker 1: It was like you never really find you never really
Speaker 1: find a pace or a footing. It's like, well, how well,
Speaker 1: how long have we going? We've only got to do
Speaker 1: ten twenty two? You guys seem to you know, you
Speaker 1: live in Canada right now? Ye? Yeah, Vancouver, Vancouver, Canada,
Speaker 1: coniferous jewel of the city. Have you guys been I have.
Speaker 1: I love that town top. I think it's a beautiful city.
Speaker 1: I love it there. I was there when the sun
Speaker 1: was out and it was magnificent, and then I was
Speaker 1: told that it's not always like that, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would if I would like that rainy
Speaker 1: it's a yeah, it's a it's a question of takes,
Speaker 1: like when the sun shines, is no finer place. I
Speaker 1: don't mind the rain, but I think if you were
Speaker 1: somebody that didn't like rain and preferred like seasons and snow,
Speaker 1: then this city would not be for you. But it
Speaker 1: really is. It really is a coniferous jewel of the city.
Speaker 1: And are you mostly on stages and such or do
Speaker 1: you go out and shoot on locations? And it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's almost follows a pretty regular schedule where we do
Speaker 1: a lot of stage work early in the week and
Speaker 1: then we do all this the stunt stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: it's always you know, so Thursday, Friday nights, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be we're gonna start you know, five pm, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna go all night and we're gonna like, you know,
Speaker 1: have the guy run up a building and fight a
Speaker 1: monster and then like we're gonna come back and win.
Speaker 1: You know. So you kind of you kind of you
Speaker 1: kind of have to stay in shape for this thing.
Speaker 1: Like you're you're asked to do way more than you
Speaker 1: expected to do when you started. Huh. It's a blessing
Speaker 1: and a curse, you know, because the other thing is
Speaker 1: too as you guys know to like, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: older than you guys, but there's a there's a thing
Speaker 1: where you when you were a young actor, you could
Speaker 1: be vain, but you wouldn't really matter because you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna look fine, you know. And then you get a
Speaker 1: little bit older, and then your coach, the people you're
Speaker 1: acting with, your co actors are twenty you know, and
Speaker 1: they're fantastic. And then there's you, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: he looks great in the suit. And then you can't
Speaker 1: really be on the donut diet while you're on the suit,
Speaker 1: so you kind of have to keep keeping in shape,
Speaker 1: you know. And so it's you hang out with Jessel
Speaker 1: Martin a lot. Jesse is a legend, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: coming from the either. He's just he's amazing. He's got
Speaker 1: this thing sucks because he's the captain. You know, he
Speaker 1: can he working with a hat and an overcoat. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry too much of it, you know.
Speaker 1: Like he's just like he's kind of like he runs.
Speaker 1: He basically is the beating heart, you know, runs the show,
Speaker 1: the center of you know, reason, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's got a great job and appreciate it. So
Speaker 1: tom Um when ed when the show ed, I want
Speaker 1: to talk to about that. When it came out, I
Speaker 1: was an unemployed actor and my mom called me a
Speaker 1: very very concerned that I that I that I had
Speaker 1: gotten a lead in the TV show and not told
Speaker 1: her because she didn't understand why why I was on
Speaker 1: billboards all over the country. And it is I mean, no,
Speaker 1: it is, I mean she she she obviously sucks that
Speaker 1: it was not me, but she was like, there is
Speaker 1: a young man. He was on every billboard in town
Speaker 1: and he looks a lot like you. And I remember thinking, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom, that's that's not me. Uh yeah, I'm still
Speaker 1: still trying to get some auditions going and uh and uh.
Speaker 1: It was really humbling because I was like that fucking
Speaker 1: guy who looks exactly like me as a as a
Speaker 1: hit show leading role on NBC. Now, no one's ever
Speaker 1: gonna hire me. By the way, Dak Sheppard, who also
Speaker 1: looks like us, so told me this. He was like
Speaker 1: when I was, when I was, you know, became famous
Speaker 1: and was all over the place, he was like, well,
Speaker 1: how is this gonna suck my career? Because I look
Speaker 1: like that guy and that guy's already working And so anyway,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about ED and and
Speaker 1: tell us I imagine that was your big break, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you worked a bunch, but that
Speaker 1: was your first your own show, right for sure? I
Speaker 1: mean first off, Das and you have done quite well
Speaker 1: for yourselves. Worked out, right, Romano, guys, so was right, Romano,
Speaker 1: Yes it worked out. It didn't work out, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I had done. I'm Canadian, and um, I had I
Speaker 1: moved to New York City and I think eighty nine
Speaker 1: to do Broadway. I did like a decade of theater
Speaker 1: um and um, I absolutely loved it, absolutely how to
Speaker 1: present and loved it. And then I had done a
Speaker 1: small guest spots for literally for ten years on ABC NBC.
Speaker 1: Back then it was like just the four, right, and
Speaker 1: I've done a show called Providence and then. But I
Speaker 1: had no idea of the profile that you guys enjoyed
Speaker 1: on Scrubs because the shows, A lot of the shows
Speaker 1: that I've done, when they were television shows or series.
Speaker 1: I've done a couple of series in Canada, they were
Speaker 1: Canadian shows, um, And there's no cross border pollination between
Speaker 1: the two countries. Um. In other words, you'll shoot a
Speaker 1: show in Canada and you'll do ten episodes. But everybody
Speaker 1: in Canada is watching Friends. You know, I was watching
Speaker 1: these who's watching these Canadian shows, Well, it's it's different.
Speaker 1: In Canada. There's a federal mandate for these television shows,
Speaker 1: so they do them um and some of them are
Speaker 1: quite quite good. And there's not a there's not a
Speaker 1: mill the way there is behind um the entertainment industry
Speaker 1: in the States. Up in Canada, it doesn't you know
Speaker 1: what part of the ethos of the country is like, well,
Speaker 1: let's not get too big for ourselves then, you know,
Speaker 1: and so and in the States it's very much the opposite,
Speaker 1: like let's see how we can build up and how
Speaker 1: big we can get. And why that, uh, why that
Speaker 1: ethos is good is that you know, you you if
Speaker 1: you're working as an actor, you're working largely because you
Speaker 1: love it, because a lot of the attention, at least
Speaker 1: back then. Now it's different because everything can be found.
Speaker 1: But back then, you know, you were you were doing
Speaker 1: the same stuff we would do on scrubs that you'd
Speaker 1: come to set and there's all the you know, the crew,
Speaker 1: and there's the people and it's and it's great and
Speaker 1: you love it. And then you leave set and it's
Speaker 1: still the exact same experience. It's just that you're not
Speaker 1: going to Radio City Music Hall and doing the upfront, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and so, but it's nice and it's to
Speaker 1: range way because you understand that, oh, this is this
Speaker 1: is what I love to do. And by the time
Speaker 1: I got ED, like you know, fifteen years later, it
Speaker 1: was I was aware enough that it was still the
Speaker 1: same experience. And so even though suddenly, like you say,
Speaker 1: there was like billboards plash it all over the place,
Speaker 1: I was readily aware that, you know, that that was
Speaker 1: all that that thing get ripped away and it's semi superficial,
Speaker 1: and so I think that was a nice little I
Speaker 1: don't know what it would be like to have your
Speaker 1: face plastered all over the place when you're in your
Speaker 1: mid twenties. I think it would be a I think
Speaker 1: it would be a tough fight. We we didn't get
Speaker 1: a big billboard by y NBC didn't go They certainly
Speaker 1: went all in. Whoever made the billboard decision for ED
Speaker 1: went all in. And by the time Scrubs came on,
Speaker 1: they were like, dude, remember a few years ago we
Speaker 1: shot our billboard budget on ED. We have no billboard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that, because that's why that's why
Speaker 1: you guys didn't get that big bill. What was funny
Speaker 1: is like I remember when the when Scrubs started, how
Speaker 1: just how much of a splash it made. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you can remember, and it's not lost on you. How
Speaker 1: like big a deal that that was, Like that show
Speaker 1: was so important, it seemed at the time it was
Speaker 1: bizarre for us because also, you know, we compare it
Speaker 1: to now, you know, the amount of people watching a
Speaker 1: single TV show just doesn't happen anymore, especially live, um
Speaker 1: we really even at all, but let alone live when
Speaker 1: it's airing. So it was a completely different era. And
Speaker 1: that's that would watch at our worst, at our worst
Speaker 1: TV shows. Now if they got our worst numbers right, yes,
Speaker 1: they would be considered hit shows, you know, I mean yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: now a tom Um was was ed written for you?
Speaker 1: Or did you audition? No? No, no, they didn't No, No,
Speaker 1: that was again that was NBC. They didn't want me
Speaker 1: um at all, Like we had to. They went through
Speaker 1: I think a year of casting known people and um,
Speaker 1: you know, better humans, you know, and then well, you know,
Speaker 1: just just some people that who aren't in the entertain industry. No,
Speaker 1: they'll often try and get a known star, that's right,
Speaker 1: and if that doesn't always work out for the reasons,
Speaker 1: and then they go, Okay, well let's start to read
Speaker 1: people that aren't famous yet, and which is when this
Speaker 1: is how people like the two of you. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean exactly exactly. It's exactly how both Tom and
Speaker 1: I got our parts. Exactly. I was like the third
Speaker 1: I think, the third round or so of doing it.
Speaker 1: The only reason I have that job. I remember how
Speaker 1: generous you were at Bill's um we had the party,
Speaker 1: and he was you know, you were like, you were
Speaker 1: just so gracious about because you're clearly incredibly talented, and
Speaker 1: yet you had to wherewithal to say, I owe so
Speaker 1: much to to this guy. And I had the same story.
Speaker 1: There's uh Robernette and John Beckaman who ran the Late
Speaker 1: Show with Letterman. Were those are the guys that are
Speaker 1: the reason I got the job, As those guys said,
Speaker 1: this is the guy, and and you know, they managed
Speaker 1: to have enough stock that people would listen to them.
Speaker 1: And without without somebody standing up for you, sometimes you
Speaker 1: just it just doesn't you know, it doesn't go your way.
Speaker 1: Those people are the only reason I got that job.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many times you auditioned? I know
Speaker 1: I auditioned once in Los Angeles, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: how it is when you're like, oh, that that went well,
Speaker 1: you feel good about it. But I was also like, okay,
Speaker 1: it was pilot season and it was like one read
Speaker 1: during the day, but it felt good. And then then
Speaker 1: they called me to to have the the sessions that
Speaker 1: they do, they have a studio session in a network session,
Speaker 1: and um, it was very It was like and this
Speaker 1: is uh, I hope this isn't boring. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to talk about but they we went and we had
Speaker 1: to do it. It It was at CBS at the time.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if you guys know
Speaker 1: that show. That was CBS not NBC, and and CBS
Speaker 1: ultimately I didn't think so they got picked up at CBS,
Speaker 1: and then CBS ever aired the show, and then a
Speaker 1: year later NBC picked it up, which is weird. So
Speaker 1: that never happens. Never happened. Every time you make a pilot,
Speaker 1: it's always such a bizarre thing, both when I've been
Speaker 1: in them or when I've directed them. You put so
Speaker 1: they put so much money in, they put so much
Speaker 1: work in, and then a network chooses what they choose,
Speaker 1: and then the discards are like they have like the
Speaker 1: smell of shit on them. No one will touch them,
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's like, what someone just spent six
Speaker 1: million dollars making this pilot. You could look at it
Speaker 1: and maybe recapt maybe you could recast some things. You
Speaker 1: could you could reshoot half of it. Whatever, Why are
Speaker 1: you throwing it all the way? It's so it's always
Speaker 1: a bizarre waste of money to me, because there's there's
Speaker 1: there's diamonds in the rough that no one is so
Speaker 1: this situation is very rare. That then another networking Wade mane,
Speaker 1: we'll take it. I don't know that it ever happened
Speaker 1: before with CBS. I think from what I the only
Speaker 1: reason that that happened was again because Robert net And
Speaker 1: ran The Letterman Show. It was because Leediman had such
Speaker 1: a big he was such a big paycheck. He's such
Speaker 1: a big entity at the time. That was the only
Speaker 1: reason I think that that that card. If a producer
Speaker 1: didn't have that card to say, that would probably have
Speaker 1: never never happened. But when I went into to read,
Speaker 1: you know estensively the thing was a comedy with heart,
Speaker 1: and so you know, you know, you know how these
Speaker 1: It's so funny how these things change. So I went
Speaker 1: in to read. I was solid and funny in the
Speaker 1: room and made them laugh. And then normally, okay, the
Speaker 1: job is yours, this is at the network read. But
Speaker 1: then somebody, you know, twenty five people in the room,
Speaker 1: and somebody starts going, but but what about this this
Speaker 1: I don't like this about him? And then that sort
Speaker 1: of you know, the next thing, you know, you had
Speaker 1: it and then you don't have it. And I remember
Speaker 1: Rob and John came out and robbed was. He had
Speaker 1: this real serious face and he's like, look, so they
Speaker 1: don't know if you can. They don't know if you
Speaker 1: can do straight drama. So uh, even though it was
Speaker 1: a comedic scene about a guy finding out that his
Speaker 1: wife is leaping with a mailman, and uh, they're like,
Speaker 1: you just need to do that scene again and throw
Speaker 1: out all the comedy and play it like, you know,
Speaker 1: play it like a Shakespeare tragedy. I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and I went in and did that and you know,
Speaker 1: just completely straight as possible, and they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: he can. He can do that too. It's so amazing.
Speaker 1: Exact same speech I got pretty much really fucked up,
Speaker 1: pretty much when they weren't say Donald legit sucked out.
Speaker 1: He didn't say he sucked up. You know I didn't.
Speaker 1: When I were auditioned for Scrubs. I got real big
Speaker 1: in the audition because it was a comedic scene, and
Speaker 1: I got real big and animated, and Bill had to
Speaker 1: come out and be like, dude, tone that ship down, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's funny, as you know, like I think sometimes
Speaker 1: an executive, here's another executive speaking, goes I better way
Speaker 1: in as well, you know. So suddenly they're like he's big. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's too bad, Yeah, he's too bid. Suddenly becomes thing
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh no, if if actors, only if
Speaker 1: actors who have yet to be in one of these
Speaker 1: rooms only knew how oh my gosh, the tight up
Speaker 1: you're walking to try and get a fucking roll, oh dude,
Speaker 1: and how it just it just falls on one person
Speaker 1: being like I don't don't know what if, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you didn't have the part anymore,
Speaker 1: and you want the part for a second. Right, I've
Speaker 1: been in the room and watch somebody destroy it, like
Speaker 1: kill it, come in and destroy it, and then someone
Speaker 1: else come in and do a really good job, but
Speaker 1: not destroy it. And and I saw the first person obviously,
Speaker 1: and one person in the room was like, well, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not sure that they actually look like
Speaker 1: the part. You know what, You're right, they don't necessarily
Speaker 1: look like the part. And all of this doubt happened,
Speaker 1: and the person that crushed it did not get the role,
Speaker 1: and the person that just did good got the role
Speaker 1: because there was to this. It's crazy. I was once
Speaker 1: working on something and this girl came in and uh,
Speaker 1: she was young, you know, she was like a young
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner type. She was really pretty, she was early
Speaker 1: twenties and super ex appressive and funny, and I thought
Speaker 1: that she should get the part. Another girl came in,
Speaker 1: very very funny. Well he could have done it too,
Speaker 1: but but I I preferred the first girl. I thought
Speaker 1: she was better. One of the executives goes regarding the
Speaker 1: first girl the young Jennifer Garner type, but she goes,
Speaker 1: she's very expressive. Should we worry about her wrinkling early?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, now, mind you, this is like a twenty
Speaker 1: early twenties something, your own girl, and she's very pretty,
Speaker 1: and um, the not only is that the most ludicrous
Speaker 1: thing you can ever imagine other human being saying, but
Speaker 1: in your mind, the show is gonna go so many
Speaker 1: years that that she that her her her wrinkles that
Speaker 1: come from her being expressive, We're going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the most ludicrous thing I've ever
Speaker 1: heard him a whole it's appalling. The other part of
Speaker 1: it is actors can act, you know, and so so
Speaker 1: I don't have many times so like you've done a
Speaker 1: thing and then like, yeah, the feedback is, yeah, we
Speaker 1: wanted a little bigger. It's like, say that ship, why
Speaker 1: don't you let me do the whole audit? Listen? Man,
Speaker 1: why did you let me do the hold audition that big?
Speaker 1: Then if that's the case, somebody in the room could
Speaker 1: have said, hey, you know what, I love your choice.
Speaker 1: You could be diplomatic about it. I loved your choice. Listen.
Speaker 1: Can you tone it down a little bit this time?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That never happens anymore, dude.
Speaker 1: I do remember though, back in the day when I
Speaker 1: was going out for auditions and it would be like
Speaker 1: somebody who was from the urban or from the streets
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and you'd get the can you
Speaker 1: can you spice it up a little dog and you
Speaker 1: can't something? Can you can you? Can you put a
Speaker 1: little sauce on that? How would they say it? Like?
Speaker 1: What's the worst face? One would say that, can you
Speaker 1: spice it up? A little bit? Spice? And you'd be
Speaker 1: like what I had a producer say to me once
Speaker 1: about a script. She goes, you know, she was an
Speaker 1: old lady. She goes, you know you could go black
Speaker 1: with it, and I go, okay, Yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: there's no reason. She goes, you know, they're doing their thing.
Speaker 1: She did that jest. You guys can't see the gesture.
Speaker 1: I mean she's sort of rocked back and forth. She goes,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're doing their thing. It was one
Speaker 1: of the most all created things I've ever witnessed. I go, okay,
Speaker 1: so you want them to do their thing? I got it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, should we get it? We have to
Speaker 1: take a break, probably break, and then we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into the episode. All right, we'll be right back with
Speaker 1: the Tom Kavanaugh ever bad. So we always talked about
Speaker 1: how everybody met Bill and how you came to this show.
Speaker 1: You wound up doing the show for several seasons, lots
Speaker 1: of episodes you might have. You must have been one
Speaker 1: of our most recurring guest stars. I don't know that,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you I was always hugely grateful
Speaker 1: to get the call. I sort of feel like even
Speaker 1: being on this podcast is sort of like I've sort of,
Speaker 1: like I was telling your producers, I've sort of like
Speaker 1: gloamed my way on by, like you know, that's somehow
Speaker 1: this got put out there. But I also felt that
Speaker 1: same way about Scrubs, Like I don't really do Scrubs,
Speaker 1: but I sort of like piggybacked on the back of
Speaker 1: their success. And I've been basically a parasite this whole time,
Speaker 1: and I'm so so grateful for it because people loved
Speaker 1: you on the show. Tom. Sorry, it's funny, how like no, no,
Speaker 1: but it's funny. How like when you like ed isn't anywhere,
Speaker 1: you can't find it anywhere. Most of this a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that's harder, harder to find. And I would
Speaker 1: say Scrubs is the thing even though you know you
Speaker 1: guys were you get all. You guys did such a
Speaker 1: great job and I did nothing. I still get recognized
Speaker 1: all the time from I hear people all the time.
Speaker 1: I want to say, hey, little brother, or they remember this,
Speaker 1: remember the bathtub episode. I remember this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I was like ninety years ago, and people
Speaker 1: are still like, it's still resident, it's on comedy Santo.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's it's lovely to be associated with
Speaker 1: your success. Well, people really loved you on the show.
Speaker 1: They really um. You know when when when Donald and
Speaker 1: I talked about having guests on UM, a lot of
Speaker 1: people um asked for the Tom Kavanov but um, but
Speaker 1: wait a second, sorry, go back to what Donald asked,
Speaker 1: how did you come about? How did it come about?
Speaker 1: Did you know Bill? Or was it the obvious that
Speaker 1: people thought he's on NBC he looks like Zach that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. No. I I think I had been
Speaker 1: uh friendly with Bill, and we weren't We weren't friends
Speaker 1: before we sort of became friends throughout, but we had
Speaker 1: you know, had spoken and gotten along UM and he uh,
Speaker 1: he and his wife had always been like quite a
Speaker 1: friendly and generous and stuff. And so I think it
Speaker 1: must have been him saying, Okay, I know Tom. I
Speaker 1: I have a friendly relationship with him, and so this
Speaker 1: seems like a natural fit because of how we how
Speaker 1: we look, I think you run into people and you're like,
Speaker 1: I would like to work with this person again, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That happens occasionally, and it almost
Speaker 1: never happens. I think all your intentions are always great,
Speaker 1: and yet you're still trying to have a job and survive,
Speaker 1: and so sometimes it's quite quite difficult, given you know,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to repatriot again. So um, I think
Speaker 1: I think maybe we got along and then he was like,
Speaker 1: oh this is this could be a nice little one off,
Speaker 1: but then it end up being more, which is tremendous
Speaker 1: because you're really good on the show. Man. Also, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I we talk about this all the time and remembering
Speaker 1: the shows. This is one of we talked about it
Speaker 1: so much that it's become a Bingo's one of the
Speaker 1: Bengo questions, Like somebody made a Bingo sheet, and on
Speaker 1: the Bengo sheet it says they'll talk about at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, if they talk about not remembering the show,
Speaker 1: you get a letter, right, And this is one of
Speaker 1: those moments because I really didn't remember this episode that much.
Speaker 1: I knew the first episode I'll remember you want is win? Uh.
Speaker 1: John Ritter passed away and then you out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, you know what, I'll come in
Speaker 1: and now and that this one that's not this one,
Speaker 1: that's not this one at all. That was another significant
Speaker 1: one that was such a again, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have because you're there, you
Speaker 1: have no basis of comparison for for you people. You
Speaker 1: guys were like all your all, your all, Your group
Speaker 1: was such a welcoming you know. It's it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: because when you go through, you know, thirty years of
Speaker 1: this stuff, it's not always you know, it's not always
Speaker 1: a group like that, you know, and I obviously don't
Speaker 1: know all the inside stories and stuff because I would
Speaker 1: just come in and out. But but being in a
Speaker 1: place where you felt welcomed and um encouraged and uh,
Speaker 1: the idea is that that you guys. I can remember
Speaker 1: laughing so hard at the stuff you guys would do
Speaker 1: that wasn't in the script, knowing that you would do
Speaker 1: this stuff verbatim as it was in the script, knowing
Speaker 1: that you would get your blows, your chances later. And
Speaker 1: I thought, this is incredible, this this environment. I remember
Speaker 1: use act doing one of I've seen like the actor
Speaker 1: who played Ross Keeller, David Swimmer run into a he
Speaker 1: had an open laundry door and he like hits his
Speaker 1: head on it and falls over there. That's one of
Speaker 1: the most solid modern day platfalls. And you did one
Speaker 1: to do a glass door that was like we're just
Speaker 1: we're just watching, you know, we weren't sitting by the monitors.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I remember thinking this and this
Speaker 1: is like years ago. Remember thing is I could watch
Speaker 1: him do this all day every time. You didn't get
Speaker 1: tired of it. You can't do it every time you
Speaker 1: did it. It was like it seemed like that in
Speaker 1: the last I wanted to get it right, you know.
Speaker 1: I I so enjoyed doing the physical comedy and and
Speaker 1: I would get competitive just with myself wanting to be
Speaker 1: wanting to wanting to make a really good one. And
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that was a bit of my
Speaker 1: that was my sport if you will try to be
Speaker 1: good at it. I remember one time in one of
Speaker 1: the episodes, you jumped out and I just improvd monster. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, the funding about the show, as you
Speaker 1: were just saying, was there was such a vibe of
Speaker 1: just safety, that is this is a safe environment, go nuts,
Speaker 1: do be adventurous. You know, Bill will tell you, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously get do it is written, but he'll tell you
Speaker 1: if he wants you to bring it down. But I
Speaker 1: was just watching this your first episode, and you were
Speaker 1: making such bold and such tricky which is tricky because
Speaker 1: you know, we bound the show, we're regulars, we're there
Speaker 1: all the time. We had we had kind of built
Speaker 1: up that comfortable nous for a guest star to come
Speaker 1: on and be like, all right, I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: bold character. I'm gonna make bold choices. I was really
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with you just watching it back,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing if you do it like on
Speaker 1: your fifth episode. Here you are is your first time
Speaker 1: on set, your guest star of a of a show
Speaker 1: that's that's really popular, and you you came up with
Speaker 1: this character that which was nothing like your character on
Speaker 1: ED and was just bold and funny. But it was
Speaker 1: probably a lot to do with, like I say, just
Speaker 1: being around a place where people are like, hey, have
Speaker 1: have fun, enjoy I think I think it it just
Speaker 1: bears repeating that your show is such a such a
Speaker 1: place where you know, you welcome people to do that
Speaker 1: very thing you're talking about. I remember also being so impressed.
Speaker 1: I'm started to talk on about it, but it just
Speaker 1: it just seemed like remember season six coming in and
Speaker 1: doing something, and I remember thinking, I remember watching on
Speaker 1: different shows I've done, how you know people buy into like, well,
Speaker 1: how what what's our place in the universe of television?
Speaker 1: Like are we popular? Are we? You know? Are we
Speaker 1: getting enough attention? And um and I think you guys
Speaker 1: probably had you know, the NB why don't they promoting
Speaker 1: us all that kind of stuff. But but I remember
Speaker 1: coming in on season six and watching you had settled
Speaker 1: into this thing like this is us and this is
Speaker 1: for us, and it was such a smart and intelligent
Speaker 1: way to understand that life is fleeting, this is fleeting,
Speaker 1: and so let's just all be for this show. And
Speaker 1: when you when you come from a different place and
Speaker 1: you come into that, influenced me for the rest of
Speaker 1: my career to go, this is really what you want.
Speaker 1: People who are having each other's backs, who are for
Speaker 1: each other, who want to just do this scene right
Speaker 1: now as best as they can, and what more is that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of doing a scene, really well, how fucking funny
Speaker 1: are you stealing the lab code and going in to
Speaker 1: attend to a patient. That ship was hilarious Mr before.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's get into this uh recap?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sorry, so Tom every episode Donald will sum
Speaker 1: it up. He has thirty seconds I time? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so Donald, hold on getting my stop watch up. He's
Speaker 1: been crushing it lately. He's gotten a little cocky. Uh
Speaker 1: uh and and and and ending early, which I don't like.
Speaker 1: I like you to fill your time now this might
Speaker 1: go over. Okay on your mark, get set go. J
Speaker 1: D's brother Dan comes to visit. He recks havoc on
Speaker 1: all of j these relationships. J D wishes his brother
Speaker 1: would just grow up. Turke and Cocks are beefing again,
Speaker 1: this time because both have good arguments on why their
Speaker 1: departments are better at saving lives. By the act break
Speaker 1: j D and Turk our shame Turk of himself, j
Speaker 1: D of his brother. For Turkey, it takes a lesson
Speaker 1: from an unexpected person for him to regain faith that
Speaker 1: he's doing his job the right way. For j D,
Speaker 1: it's him learning and understanding that not all people are
Speaker 1: built the same. Some people are content with who they are.
Speaker 1: How far did I go? Over. It's thirty six, but
Speaker 1: you had some funk ups, and I think the audiences
Speaker 1: will give you. I thought it was amazing. It's well done.
Speaker 1: It's well done. I think when you were hurt, I
Speaker 1: don't think you werehearsed this time. Sometimes he's just freaking
Speaker 1: We're an hour into the damn show. I expected to
Speaker 1: do that. We didn't know that Tom calvan I was
Speaker 1: gonna be so interesting, and I didn't someone's gonna be
Speaker 1: this interesting. So you're saying we were gonna get into
Speaker 1: the show early. You're saying is that you were hearsed
Speaker 1: right before he went on the air. And now you're rusty,
Speaker 1: and that was rusty. If you give me another chance,
Speaker 1: I bet it's better. No on here again. Good job.
Speaker 1: You know what we'll you know what we'll have, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm speeding up a little bit now. We can't do
Speaker 1: well done though. That's that's the episode to remind Tom.
Speaker 1: We did this as a service to people who want
Speaker 1: a brief reminder of what the episode was Tom. Tom
Speaker 1: comes to visit me. He's been driving a car across
Speaker 1: the country as a for for three and uh. He
Speaker 1: has no fear of Dr Cox, which is just mind
Speaker 1: boggling me, and I'm squirming. I'm squirming as he meets
Speaker 1: Cox for the first time and is fucking with Dr Cox. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be the best day of my life. If
Speaker 1: I went to my brother's job and he had a
Speaker 1: loss that was bullying him, and I could freaking and
Speaker 1: I know that no matter what, he's got to get
Speaker 1: bullied anyway, I'm gonna fux some ship up. Then how
Speaker 1: about this work. You gotta mess with my little brother.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna mess with you. You remember, I think
Speaker 1: I remember on the day Tom even being nervous in
Speaker 1: real life that because I was so you know, Johnny
Speaker 1: was Johnny and I we we were versions of our
Speaker 1: characters and and we would just play that. Now you
Speaker 1: came in as an alpha fucking with him, and I
Speaker 1: think I think I recalled even on the day being
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable. But it sure he didn't. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he didn't because nobody in that hospital, in the real
Speaker 1: world or on or in the world of the show
Speaker 1: fucked with him, and he had gotten quite comfortable with that.
Speaker 1: And now here's someone who looks just like me with him.
Speaker 1: But that was great. And then so the let's talking
Speaker 1: about that Rickles moment. That was pretty funny. That ship
Speaker 1: was hilarious. I love the fact that the reason why
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen is because he here's Bambi and you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't want you to call me bamb
Speaker 1: before the rest of my life with La La. And
Speaker 1: he walks in, and he goes, and you know, and
Speaker 1: and and we find out just before he walks in
Speaker 1: that the guy's got to live and that the surgery
Speaker 1: was everything was a success. And the first thing Tom says,
Speaker 1: Dan says is it was touching going for the yeah.
Speaker 1: And then he goes, you got out. We gotta look
Speaker 1: out for those little rickles and he goes he's like
Speaker 1: the kids there, and then I go, okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: When you go, damn it, bammy, I'm busy to find
Speaker 1: a good nurse these days. The shot was really funny
Speaker 1: by Michael Spiller. When you when you turn around, I'm
Speaker 1: always a sucker for the quick turnaround. Damn it, baby,
Speaker 1: give me a second. Yeah, I'm busy. Hilarious And now
Speaker 1: my nightmare would be my brother coming and flirting with
Speaker 1: someone that I had feelings for um and let alone
Speaker 1: also your friend. I mean This is like always awkward
Speaker 1: when you have a friend that's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this guy's ever happened to you were like, you
Speaker 1: broke up with someone and then you see your friends
Speaker 1: starting to like and you're like, what the fuck? And
Speaker 1: and and I just I felt for j D as
Speaker 1: you as you and Sarah are walking down the hall
Speaker 1: and flirting, and it's awful. It's so fucking mean. It's awful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's me, by the way, it's me on both parts.
Speaker 1: It's mean on, it's mean on. I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: have a brother. You guys those two characters had a
Speaker 1: had a brother competition thing obviously, but the fact that
Speaker 1: Elliott was so willing to just like dive in and
Speaker 1: be all like Gigy, that was so cruel. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was mean. It was like, ah, he's so funny, and
Speaker 1: he's not really that funny, but he was just being
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, no, that's okay, you just uh
Speaker 1: And then the idea that wait, this is actually happened.
Speaker 1: This is happening. That is happening. You know. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love the how he realizes it's happening out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: You turned day tonight that was great. And then they
Speaker 1: start totally making out and then and then they popped
Speaker 1: back to reality. And then in reality, I yell, stop
Speaker 1: your stop your stupid laughing. It makes you look like
Speaker 1: a whore, and you're like kidding, just the worst thing
Speaker 1: you could say. And then the way I did it
Speaker 1: was like vomiting it up, like I couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: hold in the rain. You you skewed it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: laughing it makes you look like goodness, grace. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: must have been tricky to shoot up. We must have
Speaker 1: done the first part and then come back. We did.
Speaker 1: We did. Then we came back at night and Sarah
Speaker 1: had this idea, we're both chewing gum to like spit
Speaker 1: the gum out, you know, and then like, you know,
Speaker 1: have the all the one, two, three, four chewing gum
Speaker 1: like throughout the whole scene or would you you both?
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you're an actor, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna make out with someone, you want to have fresh
Speaker 1: minty breath. Was it? I think she? I think she no.
Speaker 1: I think she added gum later on because there was
Speaker 1: one of two things. One is like you kissed the
Speaker 1: person in they have the gum that you had in
Speaker 1: your mouth not great or you know, pu pu and
Speaker 1: I think she. We realized we could have a we
Speaker 1: could double down on the comedy moment by spitting our
Speaker 1: gum out. Before used to happen. We used to have
Speaker 1: banaca on set, not not just for remember you guys
Speaker 1: had you guys had them. You also had the yeah
Speaker 1: does give you heartburn? Can't give me heartburn? Yeah? Both
Speaker 1: both Donald and I would have too many and they
Speaker 1: would give us heartburn. But the old school aerosol spray bannaca,
Speaker 1: which is my favorite. We started having it just from
Speaker 1: we had kissing scenes and we didn't want to have
Speaker 1: bad breath for our scene partner. But then it became like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all friends in all up in each
Speaker 1: other's faces all day long. We're like, let's make a
Speaker 1: rule everybody, we don't have bad breath, and so we
Speaker 1: would like just be spraying it NonStop. I remember it
Speaker 1: became how many can you spray in your mouth? And
Speaker 1: I burn his mouth like tin under the tongue, just
Speaker 1: for ships and giggles. That's Eventually our boom operator vel
Speaker 1: crowded one to the boom and uh and we called
Speaker 1: it Boom knocka and we'd be like Kevin boom knocka
Speaker 1: and he would just dip the boom down. We pull
Speaker 1: the off off the mic. I was on deltrow and
Speaker 1: then and tach it back up. That's great a right there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We thought he was gonna do it for like a
Speaker 1: day as a joke. It was up there for years,
Speaker 1: the same sat canister, hopefully hopefully changed out. Um. I
Speaker 1: like when at five four when when Cox goes, well,
Speaker 1: people please stop calling me and looks goes, hey, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. How's it going. I'm nuts? He had
Speaker 1: another one in there was like I don't have time
Speaker 1: for pity or something like that. We're uh right, when
Speaker 1: he's talking to Johnny Castle. Oh yeah, I wrote that
Speaker 1: down too, and um, why does why does well? First
Speaker 1: of all, when you scare me in the shower? Hilarious.
Speaker 1: That was the first of many scares we did, like
Speaker 1: ten We did ten. Do you remember that? We remember?
Speaker 1: I remember waiting, waiting in the thing behind the curtain
Speaker 1: and like thinking of this, maybe this one will do this,
Speaker 1: Like there was we had like five or six different ones,
Speaker 1: and I think the first one was really terrifying for you.
Speaker 1: I remember that it's funny. I just put two and
Speaker 1: two together that I guess we bought the clear shower
Speaker 1: curtain that's in the opening of the show, right, because
Speaker 1: wasn't there a clear shower curtain when you scare me? Yeah? No, no,
Speaker 1: that isn't the shower curtain that it's opaque when I
Speaker 1: come out because you don't see me. And then right
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's clear. I thought, I have
Speaker 1: I have because you have you guys have that runner
Speaker 1: earlier on. Yeah, we're shopping for a clear shower curtain.
Speaker 1: And then, um, where is it? It is? Uh five
Speaker 1: thirty two. I'm just curious because they'd be funny if
Speaker 1: we uh we happen to keep the shower Yeah, it's clear, goodness,
Speaker 1: how could it? How can you act bought it? We
Speaker 1: actually bought it. There you go, Okay, look at that continuity.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean I got air, dude, you scared
Speaker 1: the shoot out of me, and I mean in real life,
Speaker 1: and I think that the character. But I obviously had
Speaker 1: a nice juicy map behind me because I like literally
Speaker 1: flew up. Yes, it's solid, solid Zack Graft special. It's
Speaker 1: good stuff. I laughed when Earn makes her own Halloween candy.
Speaker 1: She says, she's dressed the first of all, and she's
Speaker 1: dressed like raggedy Ann And uh, there's like this bowl
Speaker 1: of popcorn and homemade lollipops and she says something like,
Speaker 1: if you want name brand stuff, this fist is packed
Speaker 1: with nuts or something. This episode, uh, was actually written
Speaker 1: by Tim Hobert. I believe was he with us the
Speaker 1: first season or he came in on second him was
Speaker 1: not their first season, no, but he's a very funny writer.
Speaker 1: So this is his first big episode. This is first
Speaker 1: episode of the season then, and also Mike Spiller's back
Speaker 1: as our director. This is the first episode in which
Speaker 1: I read on scrubs wicky. Uh, this is the first
Speaker 1: episode that you're ever called Gandhi by Dr Cox. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Sarah's sister is actually one of the interns in this episode. Also,
Speaker 1: when coxes, I mean when Kelso is doing rounds in
Speaker 1: the beginning, So just when when when Kelso pulls he
Speaker 1: hates the costumes and he pulls some cat ears off,
Speaker 1: and that's Sarah's sister, not not her younger sister. Obviously
Speaker 1: that's not it's her older sister. And then I noticed
Speaker 1: that Johnny Castle Uh playing Doug. He takes off the clown,
Speaker 1: knows and kisses it. And I remember on the day
Speaker 1: thinking that was so random and funny. But I have
Speaker 1: no idea why he does it. It's very weird. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I know exactly takes the clown that Kelsel says, take
Speaker 1: that costume when he takes the nose off and he
Speaker 1: looks at it and he gives a little kiss before
Speaker 1: he puts, which is just so weird and amazing. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he did it, but yeah, the scene
Speaker 1: between you and Johnny c when you win the bet
Speaker 1: is like, to me, that was just such classic Scrubs
Speaker 1: because it's it's good in the in and of itself
Speaker 1: with the comedy is just hilarious, Jessie, when you're celebrating
Speaker 1: and it kind of goes on, then it goes on,
Speaker 1: then it keeps going on, which I personally it's funny.
Speaker 1: Then it's sort of maybe not funny. Then it's really
Speaker 1: funny because you just keep doing it. You do the
Speaker 1: backward while and it's just all the different beats of
Speaker 1: your comedy there just like I had me laughing, and
Speaker 1: I've forgotten the scene and then and then there's then
Speaker 1: there's that other level where he's like, yes, which is
Speaker 1: what that's what your show did so well, where it
Speaker 1: was like you have the great comedy and that could
Speaker 1: just on another show that would just be enough. And
Speaker 1: then it's like there's a hammer a gravitas that still works.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It ends with the ends with you, like
Speaker 1: with a legit serious moment considering this information. It's great,
Speaker 1: no matter, Joel, and you just look like you freaked
Speaker 1: out about something. Gina Price Pryflet heard a thing I
Speaker 1: did and I love her. Sorry, Okay, wait what happened?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, wait what happened? I think you're Since you
Speaker 1: distracted the show, you're gonna have to share what happened.
Speaker 1: Gina Price Prithelett It is an amazing director. She doctor
Speaker 1: loved basketball um and she just has any movie out
Speaker 1: on Netflix called oh my Gosh, The the Old Guard
Speaker 1: Black Lady who's been working for a very long time,
Speaker 1: and I love her. She used to write on Felicity,
Speaker 1: like season one of Felicity she wrote, and then she
Speaker 1: went on to right, but what ha been that made
Speaker 1: your face light up? Because I thought it was Tom's
Speaker 1: use of the word gravitass acknowledged my existence. I get
Speaker 1: so excited. Oh congratulations. What did she say? What she like,
Speaker 1: you're one of the articles you've written or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did a pod talking about the new movie and
Speaker 1: she was like this was so great. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's always good to be, don't. I
Speaker 1: just want the listeners to know from my point of view.
Speaker 1: Tom said the word gravitas, and Joel's face lit up
Speaker 1: and she started like doing the hand thing where you
Speaker 1: might cry, And I'm like, wow, Joel really loves the
Speaker 1: word gravitass. She had better reasons to celebrate, better reasons
Speaker 1: to celebrate. I'm glad to hear it wasn't gravitating either.
Speaker 1: The old guard plug. That's great, that would be. That
Speaker 1: would be the funniest shit ever. But she just loves
Speaker 1: the word whenever she whenever she hears she has to
Speaker 1: fan her eyes. Gl I love that Donald you're bragging
Speaker 1: about having two singles in your wallet. You say hello Mrs.
Speaker 1: When he gives you the funny Jackson to the Washington Brothers.
Speaker 1: Right now, you guys get nice and acquainted and and
Speaker 1: mamallet you're dancing. There was so funny man. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of I had a lot of fun doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I did. It's it's really weird, you know
Speaker 1: how things change. Because everybody did a Michael Jackson impersonation
Speaker 1: back in the day, everybody did it. I can't recall
Speaker 1: the last time I've seen Michael Jackson impersonation very very
Speaker 1: long time. Now, you probably if we were doing the
Speaker 1: show now, you probably wouldn't be doing so many Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson's Now. I love a Growing Pain shout out for
Speaker 1: those of you who were too young to know. Growing
Speaker 1: Pains was a very popular sitcom and starring Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 1: And uh when when I when when we all go
Speaker 1: to lunch, I say, oh, no, I'm trying to defend Dan.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he he he lives with my mom, but
Speaker 1: he's got his own area. He's like Kirk Cameron when
Speaker 1: he lived the garage with Boner and Kirk Cameron had
Speaker 1: a friend in the show named named which made no sense.
Speaker 1: Why was his friend named Boner? Everyone knows what his name.
Speaker 1: His last name was the Bone and his dad's name
Speaker 1: was Sylvester. But then you run, you yell out to
Speaker 1: the room Boner. Everyone, come on, everyone, it's too low
Speaker 1: hanging fruit boner. You guys didn't hear what I said.
Speaker 1: His dad's name Will was Sylvester and his last name stabone.
Speaker 1: Sylvester stabone. Yeah, do you know the Growing Pains theme
Speaker 1: instead of Sylvester Stallone Sylvester stabone. You know, I get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: it just wasn't that funny. I guess. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: thought it was hilarious when I first hearted the show. Kids,
Speaker 1: Wait a second, Boon, your dad's name is Sylvester stabone.
Speaker 1: And then he turns back and looks like Mike goes,
Speaker 1: who know what? Joe, please sing the theme song for Donald?
Speaker 1: Do you know the same song? Tom? Tom? You might
Speaker 1: not know this, but Donald can sing song. If you
Speaker 1: tell me how it starts, I could sing it. Show me.
Speaker 1: That's my aga. Okay, so I got it. Don't waste
Speaker 1: another the man It on your crying and we're nowhere
Speaker 1: near the end. Her best to be again? Oh okay,
Speaker 1: he started too high. As long as we got each other, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the world hanging right in our heads, baby,
Speaker 1: rain or shine all the time, We've got each other,
Speaker 1: sharing the left love, sharing the laughter. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to release an album tom of Donald to show that
Speaker 1: the show that did every season they did a different
Speaker 1: version of that song. Oh really. They also at some
Speaker 1: point they had a baby and then they were like,
Speaker 1: the baby's boring. In next season, she's gonna be five.
Speaker 1: And they also had nobody else aged, but the baby
Speaker 1: was all of a sudden five. They also like fostered
Speaker 1: a kid for a little bit. Who was young Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, was young young Leo's first show, I believe, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was his first, but there's
Speaker 1: really cute. I've seen like when they do like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, remember who this little boy was. I've seen
Speaker 1: like his first interview. I just love being an actor
Speaker 1: and I'm just happy to be with these guys. And
Speaker 1: it was really cute. And now look at him. Donald
Speaker 1: has a little Leo crushed. Tommy comes up almost every episode.
Speaker 1: I love Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, so um, the last one
Speaker 1: of my favorite actors of all time. One of our
Speaker 1: last episodes ended with Donald talking about trying to dock
Speaker 1: with no no no no no no no no, that's
Speaker 1: plane later break. We gotta gotta guess, we gotta go
Speaker 1: to break. We gotta guess, guys, what about that? Wait?
Speaker 1: We should we should go to break, guys. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after Donald docks Leo. No, no, no, what
Speaker 1: did he say? What was that? Now? I did not
Speaker 1: say I wanted to dock with Leo. I just said
Speaker 1: I thought he was a great actor. We went to break,
Speaker 1: We went to we we gotta I think we need
Speaker 1: to clarify this because I don't want it out there
Speaker 1: in the ethos that somebody that I'm walking around telling
Speaker 1: people I want to dock with Leo because that ain't
Speaker 1: was happening here. Okay, that ain't was. Donald does not
Speaker 1: want to dock Leo. Everybody, Yes he does. We're going
Speaker 1: to break. Wait what all right? Now we're back tom.
Speaker 1: We take a caller here on this show and Joel
Speaker 1: curates them. There are zillions of people that email her
Speaker 1: and try and send her payola. Uh and she it's
Speaker 1: all accepts all the money. She accepts all the money,
Speaker 1: all the money. Send you sending money to Joel, do
Speaker 1: it the right way. Don't send like sending the real deal?
Speaker 1: How we feel? I thought, if you don't get picked,
Speaker 1: but money does help. But you know, cash is a
Speaker 1: little crass. What you can sell sending baskets? Cash is
Speaker 1: crist I don't know if I ever said that before,
Speaker 1: but I was Cash's crass. Cash is crass. Send a
Speaker 1: woman a wine basket or or some of God's lettuce.
Speaker 1: She'll take either one. O cush is preferred. Who do
Speaker 1: we have to for the Tom Kavanaugh? Who Who's America's
Speaker 1: favorite older brother? We have Christina Christina? Hello, where are
Speaker 1: you calling from? Christina? Kirsten and these Christina, Um, you're
Speaker 1: an ear nurse, we heard, so that means you're gonna
Speaker 1: get even more respect than the average caller. We give
Speaker 1: our colors a lot of respect, but e R and
Speaker 1: nurse gets top respect from Thank you? What's it like
Speaker 1: right now? You guys are in Houston's it sucks? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's the status? I I think I had heard that
Speaker 1: Texas was legitimately running out of ICU beds. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we tried to ship out a critical patient the other
Speaker 1: night and couldn't get a hospital that could take him
Speaker 1: in Houston. We tried to fight him out because we
Speaker 1: didn't have a specialist for it and could not find
Speaker 1: a hospital. It's tragic. It's tragic. My God and people
Speaker 1: need to hear from people like you on the front lines,
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people, you know, as
Speaker 1: we've talked about on the show, Donald and I lost
Speaker 1: a friend and uh, and I think people like you
Speaker 1: who are on the front lines, people like us who
Speaker 1: have lost a loved one, we are seeing him. And
Speaker 1: Dan was was explaining something on the show. I thought
Speaker 1: that was really really land with me that unless you're
Speaker 1: on the front lines and the seeing it, you can
Speaker 1: kind of live in this sort of dream world where you,
Speaker 1: you know, you're just you know, obviously, I know people
Speaker 1: are suffering, they're not working, and the kids aren't in school,
Speaker 1: but it cannot it's a little bit out of sight,
Speaker 1: out of mind. Whereas someone like you who's seeing this
Speaker 1: every single day, um, it must be just very very
Speaker 1: traumatic for you. That we also see what COVID does
Speaker 1: to people to write what and and and and a
Speaker 1: lot of people that's something that Americans don't see. We
Speaker 1: don't see the uh, what's what's left up people after
Speaker 1: COVID has ravaged their bodies and uh and and you know,
Speaker 1: recked haboc or rect habit on their organs and stuff.
Speaker 1: So h it's just a it's a slave in the
Speaker 1: face when we're risking our lives and then people are
Speaker 1: on here saying it's a hoax or that it's a yah.
Speaker 1: It's just frustrating because we don't have any reason to
Speaker 1: lie about it, right, I know, but we see that.
Speaker 1: But we see that. I see even in our comments
Speaker 1: on on Instagram. I don't know you saw this. Donald,
Speaker 1: people were like, uh, enough of the mask talk. You're
Speaker 1: becoming like every other show. And I wanted to like
Speaker 1: throw my fucking phone at the wall because I was like,
Speaker 1: our friend just died, so there's gonna be some COVID
Speaker 1: talk where I fucking ask. But um, anyway, I I
Speaker 1: we we thank you for for I just think there's
Speaker 1: nothing more noble than than being a nurse. And and
Speaker 1: there's extra cherry on top for doing it in the
Speaker 1: e er because the things you must see. And I
Speaker 1: want to thank you' all real quick for the video
Speaker 1: that y'all did with you know, Patrick Harris thanking all
Speaker 1: the healthcare workers. It did not get enough props, but
Speaker 1: it really meant something. I thank you, thank you, thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: So let's switch to something more like our Our main
Speaker 1: mission is to make people giggle at bit. Do you
Speaker 1: have any questions for for us about Scrubs or anything
Speaker 1: could be about the Flash? I don't know. My first
Speaker 1: question is, what's the craziest thing A fan has asked,
Speaker 1: joll Oh, my gosh, have you ever signed anyone? And
Speaker 1: then they saw them again and they were like, I
Speaker 1: turned your signature into a tattoo. Yes, I've had that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and people get tattoos to you? Is that weird? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just talking about this yesterday. Uh, there's some really
Speaker 1: weird tattoos of me out there. And and also I
Speaker 1: actually like the ones some people have tattooed U lines
Speaker 1: from Garden State that we're meaningful to them of film
Speaker 1: I wrote, so I that I think is really cool
Speaker 1: because my something I came up with was meant enough
Speaker 1: to them to put on their body as a as
Speaker 1: A as whatever mantra if you will. But what I've seen,
Speaker 1: like like the weirdest faces I've made on Scrubs where
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, like screaming out of fear, like
Speaker 1: actually in this episode with Tom where I'm like screaming
Speaker 1: out of fear, and I've seen that on like someone's thigh.
Speaker 1: Um Donald, I saw a tattoo of you that that
Speaker 1: look like you. It looked nothing like me. It looked
Speaker 1: like Charles Barkley. You're on my back and it looked
Speaker 1: like Charles literally now you know, as a kid, I
Speaker 1: was a big fan of Charles Barkley. But it didn't
Speaker 1: look anything like me. It looked literally like Charles Barkley.
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing that's ever happened to me. I get
Speaker 1: a lot of people asking for it to eat. Yes,
Speaker 1: that happens to you a lot because they think you're
Speaker 1: very strong and they don't know I can hold a
Speaker 1: lot of people up there. Yeah, but it's it's donald.
Speaker 1: You do. Let a lot more people mount you than
Speaker 1: I would ever listen. If you are brave enough to
Speaker 1: ask me, I will most likely oblige now that you shouldn't,
Speaker 1: he said, most likely find print. That being said that
Speaker 1: the fine print, Tom is like you must be under
Speaker 1: a certain amount of weight before trying to please as
Speaker 1: to all permission. Don't do it in front of his
Speaker 1: children or his wife. Fool bitch shop you Well, the
Speaker 1: fine print is the fine print truly is like it
Speaker 1: has to be a special occas and you can't just
Speaker 1: be out of nowhere like you walk down the street
Speaker 1: and like, let's eagle, and that's not gonna happen. It
Speaker 1: has to be you know, it has to be something
Speaker 1: like if I'm at a conference and it's you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and they got to catch you, you're
Speaker 1: not woozy. Yeah. So that's the one thing that that's
Speaker 1: the one thing that that's pretty weird is that being
Speaker 1: asked to eagle. It's like, really want to jump on
Speaker 1: my back? You feel that comfortable right now to walk
Speaker 1: up to me and asked me to give you an
Speaker 1: and and ask me to give you a piggyback ride? Tom,
Speaker 1: have you ever had a weird fan moments? I bet
Speaker 1: some of your young Flash fans have asked for something odd.
Speaker 1: I think just what you were saying earlier, I think
Speaker 1: it really tests your metal as an actor when somebody
Speaker 1: suddenly unveils a tattoo of you on them, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think the reaction they're looking for it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's great, wow, you know, but really your reaction is yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you really gotta you gotta try and
Speaker 1: cover that as best you can because they've got you know,
Speaker 1: permanent ink on their bodies. Of course, you naturally, you
Speaker 1: naturally assumed they're going to regret it. You think the
Speaker 1: next day, you don't think you're gonna end up seeing
Speaker 1: it ever, But yeah, of course it's going to be
Speaker 1: a massive regret. Well, we talked before you came on
Speaker 1: to about how I'm gonna get Donald on my face?
Speaker 1: Joel Joel. Joel reminded us that I should not attempts
Speaker 1: to shade it in at all, because I listened. I
Speaker 1: listened to your episode. Of course, Yeah, Joel, you guys
Speaker 1: were very well. Joel just came on in a moment
Speaker 1: of nervousness, being like, guys, guys talk. Here's the voice,
Speaker 1: here's the voice of reason. Please listen to the voice.
Speaker 1: I assured Joel that would be silely an outline of
Speaker 1: his beautiful face. How many people have sent you in
Speaker 1: apple Tini in the bar? Oh that's a very good question. Um,
Speaker 1: that's happened to bunch. I gotten sent a lot of
Speaker 1: apple tinis. They don't I don't like apple, just be honest,
Speaker 1: it's very sweet. It's sugar, I don't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: understand it. If you're if you're young, or if you're
Speaker 1: if you're out for a night and you want to
Speaker 1: have a funny cocktail. But I just think that if
Speaker 1: you shouldn't get trunk on them because they are so
Speaker 1: filled with sugar. Day. I'm one of the owners of
Speaker 1: a restaurant in New York that I'll give a plug
Speaker 1: to now called the Mermaid Oyster Bar, and it's seventy
Speaker 1: nine mcdougalld if you'd like to check it out when
Speaker 1: the world reopens. But they do they serve oysters at Yes,
Speaker 1: they have the sixteen different types of oysters. I love
Speaker 1: that you just said, do they serve oysters at this
Speaker 1: oyster bar? He was starting to see if it was good,
Speaker 1: he'd be a good friend and trying to like tell
Speaker 1: us more about this. You probably want to know about
Speaker 1: our lobster roll. Donald, Do you have a lobster roll?
Speaker 1: We have lobster roll in Manhattan. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: right now. Really. Yeah, My point was that the owner
Speaker 1: told me that, He's like, do you have an idea
Speaker 1: why people keep coming in and ordering apple tini's that's funny?
Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know, but can you make them?
Speaker 1: He's like, no, we're not making appletinis, but just people,
Speaker 1: just tell your fans to stop ordering when we were
Speaker 1: young and they were tasty, though, I don't know. Do
Speaker 1: you like them, Christina? A little sweet for me? A right?
Speaker 1: Do you have another question for us? Christina? Um so
Speaker 1: scrubs one. What is your most memorable scene that you filmed?
Speaker 1: Heavy question? Good question? Wow? Um, well Tom can go
Speaker 1: first because he's the test. He's got less because he's
Speaker 1: only did It's easy. It was just, you know, I
Speaker 1: loved almost every scene we did for comedy. There was
Speaker 1: one where the three of us were um part bunnies
Speaker 1: where we did the fart stuff. Yeah, we're goofing around
Speaker 1: the thing, and that we had to we're eating breakfast
Speaker 1: and then we had to go. I had to go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and it just became this long running
Speaker 1: I'll be in there for one minute, two minutes, five minutes,
Speaker 1: ten minutes, one minute, um. And then the other one
Speaker 1: was just the John Ritter uh stuff. To have been
Speaker 1: like a part of that with with you guys, was
Speaker 1: you know it was? It was meaningful. Certainly the bat scene,
Speaker 1: the bad type scene was a little less fun than
Speaker 1: you might expect. At one point, John c Riley is like,
Speaker 1: by no, you're sitting in about too probably of your
Speaker 1: own urine, and I think that was probably closer to
Speaker 1: the truth, so less fun. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, it's one thing that I hear a lot,
Speaker 1: you know about the captain bubble beer or whatever the
Speaker 1: heck it was called. Anyway, So you guys, that's enough.
Speaker 1: Now you had enough time. I've stalled, well enough, I feel,
Speaker 1: and now you guys have the tarmac ready. We um.
Speaker 1: We answered something similar to this recently, but I wonder
Speaker 1: if it's the same answer for you Donald, go ahead,
Speaker 1: well the Star Wars, Oh yeah, you're right. Uh. Also, uh,
Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to do an Indiana Jones situation in
Speaker 1: someone's colon It was a lot of fun doing the
Speaker 1: whole opening to Raiders of the Lost Dark and side
Speaker 1: of someone's colon um and then uh, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, one of my favorite scenes. It's a song
Speaker 1: but Zack and I singing everything comes down to pooh.
Speaker 1: Still to this day is one of my like I
Speaker 1: watched that, uh with a smile, And I can't watch
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that I do, but that's
Speaker 1: one thing that I've done where I'm like that was
Speaker 1: that was fucking a great time shooting that. Yeah. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite times was repelling across the fake city
Speaker 1: street on the Universal back lot, on the episode where
Speaker 1: Donald and I go on a quest to find Molly,
Speaker 1: Heather Graham's character, and uh, we repel across the street
Speaker 1: and then nail the wall and I fall into a
Speaker 1: bunch of garbage and then I get up and she
Speaker 1: looks at me, and I act like I'm surprised to
Speaker 1: see her, and I go, Molly, you're doing here? That
Speaker 1: was just the most fun because you know, do you
Speaker 1: remember how you got the to repel across the rope
Speaker 1: which I pulled your shirt off? You know, You've pulled
Speaker 1: my gown off of me. I have a gown on it,
Speaker 1: or it wasn't a shirt, yeah, And I go and
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, I pull it off and you gasp
Speaker 1: and then you're shirtless. And then I turned it turned.
Speaker 1: I turned into a thing to repel across the street.
Speaker 1: And then and then I go Molly, and she goes,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you just see Donald in the background dropped down
Speaker 1: into frame naked. So that was just so fun because
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't always Yeah, as I've said before,
Speaker 1: on the podcast. That episode was like so epic. We
Speaker 1: didn't always do episodes that were that big. And there
Speaker 1: we were like taking over the Universal back lot to
Speaker 1: do that scene, and I was directing and and it
Speaker 1: was just funny. I remember just laughing my ass off
Speaker 1: that that night. Um, all right, well we gotta go
Speaker 1: because our show is going so incredibly long. But Christina,
Speaker 1: thank you and and and all sincerity. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for for what you do and for for everything,
Speaker 1: for being on the front lines for us. Can I
Speaker 1: just seat y'all to give a quick shout out to
Speaker 1: my best friends that are super jealous right now. Of course,
Speaker 1: Preston and Nikki Yo, Presston, Nikki, it's down a phase
Speaker 1: On and and Zach Brof. Sorry, what's happening, y'all? What's
Speaker 1: happening y'all? What's happening? By Presston and Nikki and by Christina.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you, Christina. Now listen,
Speaker 1: it's not beneath us. It scrubs to do a fart
Speaker 1: joke every now and then, and uh, and your family
Speaker 1: loves to fart. Dorian's love to fart. By the way
Speaker 1: we were, we were we were lucky enough to have
Speaker 1: the late John Rittard to a fart joke on on
Speaker 1: the show before he passed away, and now we have
Speaker 1: the great Tom Kavanaugh honoring us with a fart joke.
Speaker 1: We we sprinkled him around. That was sprinkling him around.
Speaker 1: Good analogy. Your reaction is tremendous. It's like it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's a man who can't escape. It's emilar It is
Speaker 1: so horrible though, when when someone um is flatulent in
Speaker 1: a car and you don't have control of the window,
Speaker 1: isn't it just a horrible, horrible moment of life. I
Speaker 1: think an airplane is worse, but yes, airplane. Everybody's staring
Speaker 1: straight ahead, and the moment on a plane where you like,
Speaker 1: you don't want anyone to think it's you to react,
Speaker 1: you have to go. I always put my t shirt
Speaker 1: over my nose so people know, like, oh, he's reacting,
Speaker 1: it's clearly not him. It's just like when you go
Speaker 1: into the bathroom after somebody took a ship and on
Speaker 1: the airplane, and then you gotta come out and face
Speaker 1: all the people. I'm sure we've talked about we have,
Speaker 1: we talked about that horrible thing, and especially when you're
Speaker 1: in the public eye. You don't want someone to be like, Dude,
Speaker 1: I was on a plane and Tom Kavana crying the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile you're thinking, like, no, mother effort. That was the
Speaker 1: guy before me. I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would be that upset, but okay, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: an anxiety of out when I go into a bathroom
Speaker 1: and it's been just rocked and then I come out
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I didn't do that. That was someone
Speaker 1: before me. I think you should do some anxiety about
Speaker 1: public restrooms period. Dude, do you think you put toilet
Speaker 1: paper down on the seat? Listen, man, we could go
Speaker 1: to the movies the whole family. Back when going to
Speaker 1: the movies was a thing. We'd be at the movie
Speaker 1: theater if I and the movie could be five minutes
Speaker 1: away from starting. If I feel even the slightest bit
Speaker 1: of a bubble in my guts, We're going home. I'm
Speaker 1: not shipping at a movie there. You're poor kids. What
Speaker 1: do they do They cry on the way home, your
Speaker 1: kids home because you had to poop. Listen, we remember
Speaker 1: I remember one time going to a club and getting
Speaker 1: to the club and being at the club, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know about to dance and it was lit that night,
Speaker 1: and feeling a bubble in my guts and being like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going home at restaurants, so you
Speaker 1: never you never pull in public. I try my hardest
Speaker 1: not to pooh in public. I have a phobia of it.
Speaker 1: It's uh, I don't know, man, Do you keep your
Speaker 1: outings to a concentric circle where you can make the
Speaker 1: get away if you have to know? There's been times
Speaker 1: where I was like, yeah, I gotta do something, we
Speaker 1: gotta do something. Do you have friends? It's just something
Speaker 1: about the public. A public restroom is I used to
Speaker 1: have that for some reason. I was a kid. When
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I had it. I got over it.
Speaker 1: But one thing I can't do is if if it
Speaker 1: were in the men's room and there's and there's a
Speaker 1: line of stalls, I cannot poo if someone else is
Speaker 1: in the stall. I have to wait until the stalls
Speaker 1: are empty. I can't hear next me. I just can't
Speaker 1: sit next that. But also I can't sit next to
Speaker 1: the person and they're like farting and you hear them
Speaker 1: like I can't. It's too uncomfortable for Mehrd, you gotta
Speaker 1: hand it to them for their effort. You really don't
Speaker 1: really have to go, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be that guy. Man, I've been. I've been in the
Speaker 1: bathroom where another man did that. And I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I was very young and it was me and we
Speaker 1: were doing a commercial. It was a basketball commercial. What, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a basketball commercial. Jealous, I know we should
Speaker 1: talk about basketball. You have to come back on because
Speaker 1: we need to talk about our NBA Entertainment League days
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Time time were you already since
Speaker 1: we since you're well you heard this, Dan, you heard
Speaker 1: this right? So I was invited, So that's what you'll
Speaker 1: be back. But we were filming a basketball commercial and
Speaker 1: I was very young and one but I wasn't young
Speaker 1: enough where my parents had to be there. But there
Speaker 1: was one kid who was very young and his dad
Speaker 1: had to be there and his dad would play basket.
Speaker 1: We were playing like we were all doing this, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the commercial. So we were all playing like full courts
Speaker 1: on other basketball courts and we would play with his
Speaker 1: dad too. And we remember going to the bathroom, me
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other dudes. We were going to
Speaker 1: take a leak and the dad was in the bathroom
Speaker 1: and was having a real hard time pooping, like the
Speaker 1: type of ship like I don't know, like the type
Speaker 1: of stuff where it's like, oh god, damn ship. Why
Speaker 1: it's always bah was happy. That's the corn. That's the corn.
Speaker 1: That's the corn. The corn people are might be eating
Speaker 1: when the listening to this. Okay, we'll cut that out.
Speaker 1: We'll cut out the corner. No, I want to leave it.
Speaker 1: I like, okay, alright. Anyway, My point is, I remember
Speaker 1: when he came out of the bathroom, the shame on
Speaker 1: his poor son's face because we're like your dad, blowing
Speaker 1: it up. And I think that's where my phobia comes from.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy. And when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, my mom took me into the stall
Speaker 1: with her. You know, I was of an age where
Speaker 1: she was obviously not leaving me alone, and a woman
Speaker 1: was really farting a lot as she was going pooh.
Speaker 1: And then we came out to the sinks and I
Speaker 1: apparently turned to the woman and pointed to my mom,
Speaker 1: that's the lady who was farting. My mom says, like
Speaker 1: to this day, that's the most embarrassing moment of her life.
Speaker 1: All Right, um the gorilla by the way, Donald, I
Speaker 1: literally looked. I looked down in my notes and I
Speaker 1: thought that was really funny reveal. Yeah, I thought that
Speaker 1: was very I think Ken was ever in the suit. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great question. Is a great question.
Speaker 1: Let's ask Bill that. Let's ask Bill, because Bill, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you want to say hi to the Tom Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I did notice some of the
Speaker 1: fans were missing you and you're sabotaging our show by
Speaker 1: the secret numbers? So Bill, um, was Ken Jenkins ever
Speaker 1: in the guerrilla suit? And also say hi to Tom Kavanaugh? Bill, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Um? Question number? Ken Jenkins in that
Speaker 1: guerrilla suit? I seem to recall is what I love
Speaker 1: about Ken, you know, trying to be respectful of actors,
Speaker 1: was like, of course, Ken, if you want to be
Speaker 1: the guy in this suit, you know, we and I
Speaker 1: think he cut me off and said, Bill, if it's
Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna see me, I don't care
Speaker 1: if I'm ever in that grills. So I do not
Speaker 1: think Ken Jenkins was ever in that thing? Um? Pretty sure? Uh?
Speaker 1: And uh I respect him more for it. Also got
Speaker 1: to say man uh not only one of my favorite
Speaker 1: guest stars on the show, but an all time good
Speaker 1: buddy Tom Kavanaugh. Hello, sir, Hi Tom? Hey, how you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't mean to steal this podcast, but it has
Speaker 1: been way too long since we've seen each other. Has
Speaker 1: been a has got to be at least like for
Speaker 1: like five or six or seven or eight. Thank you
Speaker 1: turn season two, Dan get a new you need a
Speaker 1: new trick? Trying to hijack our show? You know, speaking
Speaker 1: of tricks, the janitor never does his trick. I was
Speaker 1: I was asking. I was about to ask that it's
Speaker 1: a writing it's a writing flow off. Bill? Sorry, what
Speaker 1: was that about? Since you just tried to hijack our
Speaker 1: show by saying the numbers, I will tell you, even
Speaker 1: though now you can't reply that you know you're fucking up?
Speaker 1: Or Tim Homer, Timber sucked up? Somebody up? Why do
Speaker 1: you lay in the The janitor is gonna do a
Speaker 1: trick and he never does. I think it's a mislead
Speaker 1: for him being in the gorilla suit, but but he's
Speaker 1: he's like twice Ken's height, so that doesn't really work.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, um, do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: how great it was to have Tom Kavant on the podcast. Dude,
Speaker 1: you have to come back. You've already said you will.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna force your hand. That was That was a
Speaker 1: classic misplay on your two guys parts. Here you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys like, hey, Tom, come back. It's like he's obsessive.
Speaker 1: Joel is gonna be like, hell, he doesn't even He's like,
Speaker 1: he just come back, come back? Okay, can I come back? Dude?
Speaker 1: We have some stories you and I we've played a
Speaker 1: lot of basketball together. And so the next time you're
Speaker 1: on next episode, you guys will talk sports ball. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: talk hoops and then you can come back the later
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