Speaker 1: So is this the new norm? Is my question? Is
Speaker 1: the new norm that you come five minutes late to
Speaker 1: all of our sessions? It's three minutes. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. We have a very fancy We got a
Speaker 1: very fancy guest, and the very fancy guest sitting sitting
Speaker 1: alone in his closet, and you're what are you doing
Speaker 1: making a drink? No, I was about to get my
Speaker 1: g TS kombucher. Actually I was asking. I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask for like five minutes so I could get a GTCA.
Speaker 1: We're not five minutes five seconds. Today. I got a
Speaker 1: big old ship, a ship like, I got a real shipment,
Speaker 1: not like not that you know what interested Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: not that we're interested in advertising in your on your podcast.
Speaker 1: Ship man. I got that, yo. You know you got
Speaker 1: to talk about you got to talk about us every
Speaker 1: time you talk to start this podcast shipment. So I
Speaker 1: got that big as kombucha shipment. And I've already gone
Speaker 1: through two of them bad boys. You might Donald, we
Speaker 1: were on a call Kombuche has become us answer of
Speaker 1: the show, and we are on a call with with
Speaker 1: them and Donald and I genuinely drink it. So it
Speaker 1: was a no brainer, and and Donald's like, let me
Speaker 1: ask you something. Since we have the inventor of this
Speaker 1: on the phone, how many do you recommend I can
Speaker 1: have a day? And the guy the guys like, well,
Speaker 1: I think three is probably probably the max you want
Speaker 1: to have a day. And I was like, okay, good, good, good,
Speaker 1: So you might want to pace bro, They're gonna be
Speaker 1: gone soon. Man, They're gonna be gone. Listen, let me
Speaker 1: my wife, my kids. Oh it's a wrap. We have
Speaker 1: a very First of all, this episode is fucking hilarious,
Speaker 1: very funny episode. I laughed so many times. And I
Speaker 1: was on a text with the with Donald then Bill
Speaker 1: right before this and about something, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this episode one twenty is one of the funniest of
Speaker 1: season one. Yeah, easy, easy, And we're very handsome guests.
Speaker 1: Are you nervous? I put on a nice sweatshirt for him. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not nervous. He and I've worked a lot together.
Speaker 1: Actually we did Felicity together. We four scrubs and then
Speaker 1: after Scrubs. Uh, we did a little movie call Let's
Speaker 1: Kill Ward's Wife together and I played Ward uh and
Speaker 1: he directed, and so uh, you know, well, I get
Speaker 1: I get nervous every time I see Scott Fully because really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a straight man for the most part. But
Speaker 1: there are certain men that I get a little shy
Speaker 1: in front of, and Folly is one of them. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't want to play hide the peep with him,
Speaker 1: but I get a little I get a little jittery.
Speaker 1: Would you play? Would you play tip to tip? I
Speaker 1: don't want to touch tips. I just listen. I am
Speaker 1: secure enough in my in my sexuality to be able
Speaker 1: to say that I get a little, I get a
Speaker 1: little a flutter. Okay, I don't want to go tip
Speaker 1: to tip with Scott Fully, but I I do think
Speaker 1: he's uh, He's very dreamy to look at, and I
Speaker 1: I also really like him as a human being. He's
Speaker 1: a he's a very sweet man. Should we invite him in? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, I'm excited. Dan bring him in,
Speaker 1: Dan allow him in. We put him in a green room.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, man, just talking about you. You were yeah,
Speaker 1: Donald was saying that you guys have worked on several
Speaker 1: projects together. Not wait before we get into this, Let's
Speaker 1: make sure he's recording. Are I think I'm recording on
Speaker 1: here right the phone? Yes? Yes, many a guess I
Speaker 1: got this sub scuff fully, but there's something that tells
Speaker 1: me that you're going to do it right. Look so
Speaker 1: handsome looking at him? Look at him. I'm lookingna wait.
Speaker 1: I was gonna wait. I was gonna wait a beat
Speaker 1: to tell him he was handsome. Donald, you went right
Speaker 1: for it. Can I tell you this. I watched the
Speaker 1: episode not that long ago. I've watched it a couple
Speaker 1: of times since we talked about me being on this,
Speaker 1: and this is the first time my hair has been
Speaker 1: the same length as it was during that episode. And
Speaker 1: I have the pandemic to think it's got You got
Speaker 1: an intro. I don't think another man in nine years
Speaker 1: got the intro that we normally reserved for the beautiful
Speaker 1: woman walking in, with the slow motion and the fan
Speaker 1: and the literally angels going. It was a bit much
Speaker 1: and I was a little overwhelmed, and I think you
Speaker 1: can tell that in my performance. It was hilarious though.
Speaker 1: Eating Jello s I mean I remember them. I remember
Speaker 1: them coming to me saying like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to eat? I was like, that's a hospital, right, and
Speaker 1: they're like Jello. It is the way Sarah's character is
Speaker 1: so Randy for you in this I had forgotten, you know,
Speaker 1: we obviously Scott, we go back. We haven't seen these
Speaker 1: in twenty years, and so it's fun for Don and
Speaker 1: I because even though we're the stars of the show,
Speaker 1: we're watching it like a new being, like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a funny episode. And I had totally forgotten how in
Speaker 1: this episode Sarah is like really horny, frankly and riled up,
Speaker 1: like she's like she's she literally says, if I don't
Speaker 1: sleep with him, I'm going to kill myself, right, And
Speaker 1: then he says, she said she she'd suck on his
Speaker 1: foot or something, and he's like what they went? They
Speaker 1: went to a lot of links with this, between the
Speaker 1: sucking on the foot, talking about needing to sleep with me,
Speaker 1: begging me to ask her out do it, dropping stuff,
Speaker 1: and doing bizarre contortions, which, by the way, works for
Speaker 1: anybody out there. It was really funny though, because it's
Speaker 1: not something you often see on a show, like you
Speaker 1: always see like the man being like neurotic and frantic,
Speaker 1: how do I get her? And I'm I'm so attracted
Speaker 1: to her, I'm so horny, you know, and this I
Speaker 1: thought this was funny that Sarah. First of all, Sarah
Speaker 1: was very funny doing it, but she's so on a
Speaker 1: mission to get laid. Yeah, I am, you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: I had so many thoughts watching this. Sorry, You're gonna
Speaker 1: see my lights go on and nobody can see that
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna I'm in a closet where the it's
Speaker 1: got one of those automatic lights. You walk in and
Speaker 1: it turns on, and if I'm sitting here and not moving,
Speaker 1: then it's gonna go dark. That's the kind of fancy
Speaker 1: house that Scott Foley has. Everyone he has a light
Speaker 1: that turns on with Some people have the clapper, some
Speaker 1: people have light switches. Scott Foley has movements. One day,
Speaker 1: if you have the level of success of legendary actor
Speaker 1: Scott Fully, you could get one of these motion lights
Speaker 1: in your closet. I think all of your closets have that.
Speaker 1: Um No, I was so impressed. First of all, what
Speaker 1: a time capsule. These things are right, like not just
Speaker 1: the references, but everything you see. Like the TV you
Speaker 1: guys are watching in the beginning is an old vacuum
Speaker 1: tube television, you know, which you just don't see anymore.
Speaker 1: Plus you guys are talking about watching Iron Chef, which
Speaker 1: somehow has stood the test of time because I think
Speaker 1: it's still on. I think they're still making ye know.
Speaker 1: I think back then it was like Iron Chef was
Speaker 1: an import and now it's domestic. I don't know that
Speaker 1: there is there a domestic Iron Chef, yes, and yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was also it was also so impressive to
Speaker 1: me to see, you know, this is the we're getting
Speaker 1: towards the end of the first season, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: and you guys have your characters dialed in at this
Speaker 1: point already. I've been on a bunch of television shows
Speaker 1: where it's not until like end of season three where
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, oh, I know who this guy is.
Speaker 1: But you guys are dialed into a person like two
Speaker 1: from from Kelso to Cox to you guys to Sarah
Speaker 1: to like, it's amazing and being able to to jump
Speaker 1: into that, you know, it was such an interesting character
Speaker 1: that I got to play here. But but you're right,
Speaker 1: watching Sarah and that character totally go for it was
Speaker 1: such an interesting thing because you always see it from
Speaker 1: the other side, don't you. Yeah, And she's really fucking funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, we say this week, this is our twentieth
Speaker 1: episode of this Scott Fully, believe it or not, it's
Speaker 1: become a hit and we can't believe it ourselves. But
Speaker 1: this is our twentie one and I We've said it
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, but Sarah Chalk is so fucking funny.
Speaker 1: I mean this episode in particular. She is so fucking
Speaker 1: funny in this episode. She's so talented, she's so beautiful,
Speaker 1: she is so good at what she does, and she
Speaker 1: goes for it, man. And that's what I appreciated most
Speaker 1: about this show is that you know, there are things
Speaker 1: that you you would read on the page, you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: how am I going to do that? And everybody, to
Speaker 1: a person goes for it. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: really made this show successful and what makes it stand
Speaker 1: the test of time, even though we're still looking at
Speaker 1: old TV sets. It's a good Well, let's speaking of
Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about, Donald, but I
Speaker 1: think we should sing first, um and we Scott, I
Speaker 1: was about to say, speaking of successful, let's get into
Speaker 1: that successful theme song about six seven eight to do it? No,
Speaker 1: I like it off the song I would like Scott
Speaker 1: fully to encounter seven O five six seven eight stories
Speaker 1: I'm about sure. We made about a bunch of dots
Speaker 1: and nurses and Janitor said he's stories should get around
Speaker 1: you here are yet around here? M that's the first
Speaker 1: time in podcast st we've stopped the opening theme song.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, Donald, I didn't mean to question your
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. It's just excited about the v I
Speaker 1: P guest, and I thought, like, give him the honor.
Speaker 1: He was really excited to go for it. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not at all hurt in any way. You know
Speaker 1: you're we are we are, we are partners in this,
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to ever think I would
Speaker 1: ever question when it's time to sing the song. It
Speaker 1: was your harmony. Your harmony with that song is something
Speaker 1: that that my wife and I have had conversations about.
Speaker 1: We go for it, We go for it's really good.
Speaker 1: No listen to Scott. When we made this song, we
Speaker 1: were like okay, but I was like, well, how do
Speaker 1: we how do we do it now? How do we
Speaker 1: you know that we made the song, how we were
Speaker 1: both gonna sing all the lyrics? And Donalds like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: I got this, And he came up with all those harmonies.
Speaker 1: I was like, Zach was like, I'll just send you
Speaker 1: I'll send you my verse, I'll sing the whole song
Speaker 1: and I'll send it to you and you just sing,
Speaker 1: because originally we were going to do it where we
Speaker 1: split up the words, and he was like, I'll sing
Speaker 1: the whole thing and you just pick where you wanna
Speaker 1: sing and we'll have Charlie cut us in. And I
Speaker 1: heard him sing and I was like, I think he
Speaker 1: sounds amazing. The only way that this is gonna wor
Speaker 1: is if I just back him up with if I
Speaker 1: sing the whole thing too exactly exactly, this is good,
Speaker 1: but you know what's gonna what's gonna make it better
Speaker 1: if I do really if I do really showy harmonies
Speaker 1: over all of this, well it works and we are fans,
Speaker 1: so good job, right right? Of course, Donald, I knew
Speaker 1: you should go back to what I was going to
Speaker 1: say that let's obviously Scott's career. I'll do a little
Speaker 1: We got to go back a little bit. Scott. The
Speaker 1: first time I remember hearing about you was on a
Speaker 1: very very successful show, solely successful because of Donald's phase on,
Speaker 1: but I believe you were on it. Too. It was
Speaker 1: called Felicity. That's correct. Donald and I met for the
Speaker 1: first time one Felicity, and I remember being like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: the clueless guys here. That's what happens every time he
Speaker 1: walks into a restaurant. Of course, of course, but I
Speaker 1: also I mean Donald was great on that, and you
Speaker 1: were you. You had that, you were going through this
Speaker 1: phase where you were trying to be ripped. You were
Speaker 1: remember I think the first table read you came in,
Speaker 1: you were carrying like a three gallon Jerry can of water. Yeah. Crazy,
Speaker 1: the amount of water you would drink every day, and
Speaker 1: you were shredded and we'd play basketball in the parking
Speaker 1: lot out there. And actually I remember, I think you've
Speaker 1: been on the show off and on for a season
Speaker 1: or two, maybe three, and before Scrubs came around, right yeah.
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to you. You had done the
Speaker 1: pilot and you were telling me about it and you said,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's really funny. It's from this
Speaker 1: young writer. Uh. He did Spin City and we got
Speaker 1: a good group, and I saw the pilot and it's
Speaker 1: really funny. I think it's gonna take off. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, good for you. Let's keep playing basketball.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we had a lot of conversations just about
Speaker 1: work back back then. Also, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how knew you were to the game, but you had
Speaker 1: been working. You did you had done Felicity, you had
Speaker 1: done Scream too or was it Scream three? I've done
Speaker 1: I'd be for Felicity. I had done Dawson's Creek, which
Speaker 1: was sort of my introduction to the what back then
Speaker 1: was the WB, the now defunct WB World, Um, which
Speaker 1: was felicit your first big leading part. Felicity was my
Speaker 1: first big leading part. Yeah, yeah, And and you know
Speaker 1: it was it was really the uh the springboard that
Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful for it that that allowed me
Speaker 1: to be a part of your show and sort of
Speaker 1: everything that's come since. And um, and when you guys,
Speaker 1: are you guys still friendly? Um? The three of you,
Speaker 1: the three of you, the Love Triangle, We're not not friendly. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Donald where you're not like having
Speaker 1: him over and and and and putting his putting his
Speaker 1: kids in a bouncy castle. No, I'm I'm We're not
Speaker 1: like that. But but we got together last year four.
Speaker 1: It was the twentie reunion of Felicity, UM, which was
Speaker 1: amazing and we got so many people together. We went
Speaker 1: to the U A t X, the Austin Television Festival,
Speaker 1: and I think they screened an episode and we all
Speaker 1: sat on stage with a bunch of people ask us questions.
Speaker 1: There was a moderate It was really great. Was the
Speaker 1: first time we'd all been together in you know, seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen years. Wow. Yeah, it was really really fun. Man.
Speaker 1: And I, you know, I'd always said I don't think
Speaker 1: you know, they talked about doing reboots, and I always said,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can do a reboot of Felicity
Speaker 1: because it was so specific to um, not just that
Speaker 1: time in a person's life when we were all so
Speaker 1: much younger, but to that period of the world of
Speaker 1: our existence. And I sort of changed my mind, um
Speaker 1: after being with him, because I I just missed him
Speaker 1: all so much, and I remembered the feelings that I had,
Speaker 1: both good and bad, and I sort of yearned for them. So,
Speaker 1: if you know, you, I think we have an exclusive
Speaker 1: right here on the on the Fake Doctor's girl friend
Speaker 1: Scott Folly is willing to do a Felicity reboot. Everybody
Speaker 1: that would be interest around again. It wouldn't be enough.
Speaker 1: Could Donald be on to I would only supported my
Speaker 1: character lives. My character lives, So it's a possibility, UM,
Speaker 1: I only supported if you get to come back. It
Speaker 1: would be very interesting to see if everybody is uh
Speaker 1: still friendly from the cast in the show, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you guys were in college together,
Speaker 1: and you guys all lived together kind of sort of,
Speaker 1: and you guys all dated each other, but it was
Speaker 1: college and usually you know, I didn't go to college,
Speaker 1: but I don't have a lot of fringe from my
Speaker 1: you know, early uh that I still hang out with
Speaker 1: from my early twenties and I still hang out with.
Speaker 1: So it would be really interesting to see what happened
Speaker 1: after you guys all left in YU. I remember when
Speaker 1: there was a controversy when Carrie Russell cut her hair,
Speaker 1: like people lost their minds, right, yeah, And I remember
Speaker 1: being like, I remember, I remember I didn't watch the show,
Speaker 1: but I remember being like, are people really up in
Speaker 1: arms that carry Russell hair? People were up in arms
Speaker 1: and it was it's to this day. I think the
Speaker 1: thing that UM people talk about the most when they
Speaker 1: talk about the show, and the interesting thing is that
Speaker 1: it was scripted like she cut her hair on the
Speaker 1: show and somehow it it gained traction. Is this urban
Speaker 1: legend that she did it on her own because she
Speaker 1: was angry or wanted to change or get away from
Speaker 1: the character. We cut it. You actually see it in
Speaker 1: season two of the show, her cutting her hair, and
Speaker 1: I thought she looked um more beautiful with the short
Speaker 1: hair than she did with the long. But you know
Speaker 1: that people just loved it. I'm just just making up
Speaker 1: that people loved her hair so much that they were like,
Speaker 1: how dare you? It was a lot of hair too.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of hair, I'm assuming, as I recall,
Speaker 1: she had beautiful, curly, long hair, and people were like,
Speaker 1: dare you enviable hair? Yeah? Yeah, it looked like she
Speaker 1: had been growing it since birth. That's how beautiful the
Speaker 1: hair was. Russell was on our show. She was a
Speaker 1: love interest of mine. Is that right? On scrub? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: she did a couple of episodes, just like, well, you
Speaker 1: did way more episodes. Your character tracked four yeah the end.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, Scott, you did way more. But uh, you
Speaker 1: do me a favor and look up how many she did.
Speaker 1: But she did too. Yeah, oh, Donald, you know that
Speaker 1: that's cool. So no, she's talented and great. And we kissed,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean on the show. I think we kissed.
Speaker 1: Maybe we might be lip guarantee. I would guarantee that
Speaker 1: you remember whether you kissed or not. No, I know,
Speaker 1: I remember being very excited that she was a love interest.
Speaker 1: But j D didn't make out with all his love interests.
Speaker 1: Joel will look it up for me. Did j D?
Speaker 1: But anyway, Scott, we might be lip cousins. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: We're definitely weener cousins. We're definitely weener cousins. Donald and
Speaker 1: I were touching and talking about touching tips just before
Speaker 1: you came on, but not in real life. Donald, with
Speaker 1: Sarah in the character, I think, I hope that's the
Speaker 1: only crossover. I don't think we had any real life crossover, Scott, fully,
Speaker 1: and I hope not because the woman would have clearly
Speaker 1: preferred you. I don't know about that, although you know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of how dare you? You know how handsome
Speaker 1: you are? Listen, listen, listen you to be handsome? You know, listen,
Speaker 1: I know that all of your supporters are out there
Speaker 1: right now. You know, just you probably would you know,
Speaker 1: quite a few downloads to our podcast. Just you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's very kind people. Oh your Scandal crew? Hey girls,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing that? Something else in common, and that
Speaker 1: is we've all had ABC canceled our shows in season
Speaker 1: one episodes. I only got I only got ten, Scott,
Speaker 1: how many did you get? We got thirteen? Thank goodness,
Speaker 1: and a trip to Prague? Right. So for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, um, because I guess not enough of you
Speaker 1: knew enough. Scott was on a huge budget action series
Speaker 1: that shot in Prague. He moved his whole family there,
Speaker 1: which is no, um, small deal because you have two children, right,
Speaker 1: I have three children. They were three school over there. Um.
Speaker 1: And it was not a by no means a simple
Speaker 1: show I was about. I was going to direct it,
Speaker 1: but then I had a conflict. But it was a
Speaker 1: huge budget epic sort of James Bond comedic James Bond
Speaker 1: action show that Bill Lawrence uh six Degrees of. Bill
Speaker 1: Lawrence was the show runner of. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was amazing. The pilot was unbelievable. I couldn't believe the
Speaker 1: scale of it. It looked like it it looked like
Speaker 1: a giant feature. Um. Thanks man, and and you were
Speaker 1: so good in it, and but anyway, I was, as
Speaker 1: I was preparing for today, I went all three of
Speaker 1: us were at were stars of ABC and then got
Speaker 1: a new ABC show that only went half a season.
Speaker 1: H Man. It was just and it's still heartbreaking. My
Speaker 1: wife and I had a conversation about it a couple
Speaker 1: of nights ago where you know, she was like, I
Speaker 1: wish we were still in Prague. You know, we just
Speaker 1: we were so fortunate. And you know, that's one of
Speaker 1: the great things about and one of the reasons I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to talk to you guys today because you know,
Speaker 1: Scrubs for me was it started out as just a gig,
Speaker 1: right coming in, doing something fun, doing something different, and
Speaker 1: it has morphed into the relationships that I've made from
Speaker 1: it have have sustained a lot of what I do,
Speaker 1: and it's it's made me happy. The people that I've
Speaker 1: gotten to work with and gone on to work with
Speaker 1: because of Scrubs have been great. And like you said,
Speaker 1: Bill Lawrence was the showrunner of of Whiskey Cavalier and
Speaker 1: we were over in Prague together, and you know, without Scrubs,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have happened. And I think he really showed
Speaker 1: that you were really funny. Scott. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I think that with your other shows that you've known
Speaker 1: for um, you know, whether it be Felicity or Scandal. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously people know that you as a as
Speaker 1: a as a great dramatic actor, but I think on Scrubs,
Speaker 1: Bill really gave you a chance to be hilarious. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite moments of of of of Shawn's character
Speaker 1: was in the script. I say this to Scott all
Speaker 1: the time and Bill all the time that it literally
Speaker 1: said in a script Sean forlornly rides a dolphin. And
Speaker 1: then when I saw the shot of you forlornly riding
Speaker 1: a dolphin, I thought he fucking nailed that. He literally
Speaker 1: maybe he really the best screen direction of my career.
Speaker 1: That's how I would sum up that shot is Sean
Speaker 1: forlornly rides a dolphin. Oh thanks man. I will look
Speaker 1: before I will say this, though, I knew you were
Speaker 1: funny from when we did Felicity together, when No went
Speaker 1: off the rails and went a little bad ship crazy,
Speaker 1: and you got to explore this character who was kind
Speaker 1: of by the book and did everything by the book. Uh,
Speaker 1: refined himself and I remember doing a bunch of episodes
Speaker 1: where they were looking for you and we finally found you,
Speaker 1: and you were like, you were completely out there, And
Speaker 1: I remember not being able to hold it together when
Speaker 1: we were doing the takes because you were so funny.
Speaker 1: So I knew you were funny way before we still
Speaker 1: before you came on Scrubs. Oh thanks man. I um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think Zach you overstate my my my
Speaker 1: talent by saying I'm a great dramatic actor. I think
Speaker 1: I'm passable. But Donald, that was. That was a bizarre
Speaker 1: like Season three Tangent where my character Noel decided to
Speaker 1: change his name to Leon, literally just reverse the letters
Speaker 1: in his name. They put like a weird wig on me,
Speaker 1: and so I had like blonde tips on my hair.
Speaker 1: It was the strangest thing. But thank you, Donald. That was.
Speaker 1: It was at least a little chance for me to
Speaker 1: stretch myself in that character. Now. Did J. J. Abrams
Speaker 1: run all the seasons every season? Yes? Every season. He
Speaker 1: was um gone a little bit on season four on
Speaker 1: our final season because he had started a show called
Speaker 1: Alias and so was sort of doing his time between
Speaker 1: both sets. But he was there the whole time. Why
Speaker 1: was really fortunate? Um, you know, obviously no one knew
Speaker 1: that J. J Abrams will become J j Abrams back then.
Speaker 1: You know, you like, do you like Donald occasionally put
Speaker 1: it out there that you're open to being in any
Speaker 1: Star Wars franchises that he's Can I tell you it's been.
Speaker 1: It's been like if if I was ever any Gunberg Grunberg.
Speaker 1: He keeps getting all the love. I mean, where the
Speaker 1: fox happening with Donald and Scott Foley. Grumberg and J.
Speaker 1: J Abrams have been friends since they were three years old.
Speaker 1: Like they were best friends in elementary school. They made
Speaker 1: you know, crappy movies together on their Super eight film
Speaker 1: cameras when they were kids. Uh, they were best man
Speaker 1: at each other's weddings. Look, I think JJ knows just
Speaker 1: by the fact that I'm an actor, but I would
Speaker 1: like to be in Star Wars. Got to be but
Speaker 1: I would, Yeah, of course I would love to. And
Speaker 1: I you know, every time he signs on to direct
Speaker 1: a new one, I sent him a text like, Wow,
Speaker 1: way to go. You're not gonna see your family for
Speaker 1: a while. Might want some friends around. Um, So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how to take it that he hasn't cast
Speaker 1: me in. You know, you always there's the old story
Speaker 1: that you know someone likes working with you, if they
Speaker 1: if they hire you again and again and again. And
Speaker 1: I've been I've been fortunate with Bill that that that's
Speaker 1: happened multiple times. JJ not so much, you know, build
Speaker 1: a director, giant tent pole movie. I mean, what's going on? Bill?
Speaker 1: Do you remember he was gonna do Fletch? He went
Speaker 1: eight script for Fletch and I went and I met
Speaker 1: with him, I read with him and there was a
Speaker 1: whole long Mirraormax story that goes with it. But but
Speaker 1: he was on his way. Man. I thought he would
Speaker 1: have been great at that. I know we really need him.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is interested. He loves TV so much.
Speaker 1: But I think for all of us, we would like
Speaker 1: Bill to become a studio tent pole filmmaker. If he
Speaker 1: doesn't mind anymore. They do. There's a couple coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're saying July. They're saying like the end of July
Speaker 1: things are gonna pick. You're saying that Chris Nolan movie
Speaker 1: is coming out no matter what. Tenant right, That's what
Speaker 1: I've been hearing. And then uh, I mean, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: change their mind. But I read something on on the
Speaker 1: interwebs that said they're still saying July, which assumes that
Speaker 1: people are going to be willing to go to the
Speaker 1: theater in July. I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems pretty ballsy to release like two million dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's not much money,
Speaker 1: but I think sci movies for that for for in July,
Speaker 1: but something filming already, like they're filming in certain Joell
Speaker 1: just said two five million and July seven teeth, that's
Speaker 1: coming up five million dollars. That's that's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how you spend two hundred and five million dollars. Well,
Speaker 1: I would think, like when you have to double the
Speaker 1: amount of theaters because the theater is only gonna be
Speaker 1: at half capacity just because of social distancing, in order
Speaker 1: to like they're just darning enough theaters out there is
Speaker 1: the production budget, so they're gonna put like a hundred
Speaker 1: million into releasing it. That is Ah, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. That is a lot of money. But I
Speaker 1: asked my but then you ask yourself how much did
Speaker 1: it cost to make Endgame? And all of those things.
Speaker 1: Those things look like they cost half a billion dollars. No,
Speaker 1: but when you've got a built in marveloniens, this movie
Speaker 1: has no uh mega celebrities in it at all. I
Speaker 1: mean no, I know Chris Nolan is his own enterprise.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I get it, but it's got
Speaker 1: to be the most amount of money spent on an
Speaker 1: original script. Uh wow, Scott, you're not supposed to read
Speaker 1: the producer. No, sorry, did the same thing, Sarah. Sarah
Speaker 1: did the same thing. Scott Donald and I are the
Speaker 1: hosts of the show. You, as a guest, ignore my
Speaker 1: producer's notes. Well, now you know what I was doing
Speaker 1: was pretending that I actually knew the budget. Sarah. We
Speaker 1: had Sarah on and Joel was like, you know, Joel
Speaker 1: always gives us little things to help the conversation along,
Speaker 1: and Sarah just starts reading him like, Sarah, that is
Speaker 1: not for the guests. The fact that you needed little
Speaker 1: things to help the conversation along with Sarah for ten
Speaker 1: years is amazing. No, but I said, I said, Sarah,
Speaker 1: what happens if Joel is running like this is so boring?
Speaker 1: Help her along? You know, like, don't read those Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna put a piece of tape above my No. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm kidding, Joel. Joel would never write Scott
Speaker 1: Foley is so boring. Don't worry. Um, she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the first one. And even all I was saying was
Speaker 1: that Chris Nolan, I get is it's his own entity,
Speaker 1: and I get that everyone is going to see this
Speaker 1: movie because he's a fucking genius. But I wonder if
Speaker 1: it's the most amount of money ever spent on a
Speaker 1: on a on a piece of material that isn't already
Speaker 1: established a piece of intellectual property like Marvel or James
Speaker 1: Bond or the like. You know what I'm saying. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a lot of money to have
Speaker 1: to spend on something and it not work, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah. I mean just it's just the amount
Speaker 1: of money it has to make in order for it
Speaker 1: to be successful, is just. And especially with what Scott's
Speaker 1: saying is that the talk is that the theaters are
Speaker 1: only gonna be half full, so you can have most
Speaker 1: distance from me from each other. So then you need
Speaker 1: double the amount of screenings. Um, you know that's going
Speaker 1: to work. What would be really interesting is Okay, so
Speaker 1: Trolls World Tour was supposed to come out in theaters
Speaker 1: and it didn't make it to theaters because of the
Speaker 1: whole COVID thing, right, and so they released it on
Speaker 1: UH digital, the digital platform, but you had to rent it.
Speaker 1: You couldn't buy it. You could only rent it, and
Speaker 1: your rental lasts for about, you know, twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much money Trolls World Tour made, because
Speaker 1: the model is there to put movies out, well, at
Speaker 1: least right now, if you if you really want to
Speaker 1: watch uh and they haven't really experimented with like big
Speaker 1: blockbuster movies, but if you really want to watch a movie,
Speaker 1: it's fine to watch it at home. I understand they
Speaker 1: need movie theater money because popcorn all of that ship
Speaker 1: theaters and everything. But I wonder what Trolls World Tour
Speaker 1: did for Joel if can we find that out? I
Speaker 1: wonder if even I wonder if it's even published. Um
Speaker 1: so seventy seven million Trolls World Tour did, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, that would be that would be
Speaker 1: you're saying, is that the first weekend or is that total?
Speaker 1: That would be so when you rented, because I haven't
Speaker 1: done this yet, when you rent with this new model
Speaker 1: where you rent the movie for twenty four hour? What
Speaker 1: is what did what did Trolls cost you? I love?
Speaker 1: I love the two dads. No like bucks? Ye oh
Speaker 1: yeah please. I looked at my wife. I was like,
Speaker 1: we're spending twenty bucks on this. Yeah, alright several times too,
Speaker 1: so they how much? Think how much money you've got
Speaker 1: enough the phase on because you guys are renting it
Speaker 1: multiple times. But it costs more if we went to
Speaker 1: the movie theater though, because it would be twenty bucks
Speaker 1: each person, you know what I mean. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, plus popcorn and all of that stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they get money for the popcorn, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I wonder if that's a new seven
Speaker 1: million is a lot of money to make. It's a
Speaker 1: new model. They've been talking about it. I think it's
Speaker 1: a it's an interesting way to go to tell what
Speaker 1: people are going to start doing. I mean if because
Speaker 1: I don't you know, Spike Lee said the other day
Speaker 1: he's not going to the theater until there's a vaccine,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of like, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: might agree with that. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: my wife's not leaving the house till there's a vaccine,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's and that's your choice, right, It's yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a lot to do with that. Donald, your
Speaker 1: wife is your wife more hardcore than you about this?
Speaker 1: Because Donald's definitely more hardcore than his wife. No, my
Speaker 1: wife is anxiety written out everything. She is terrified not
Speaker 1: just that we're going to get it, but that we're
Speaker 1: all going to die from it when we get it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, mind you none of us have pre existing conditions.
Speaker 1: She has made five hundred masks and donated them and
Speaker 1: giving them the friends. She is all over this, and
Speaker 1: I still can't leave the house. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: My wife doesn't like me right now because I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it started off like this. Maybe maybe in May, honey,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe in May. Okay, Well we'll see
Speaker 1: about May, and then May's come around. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe June, and she's like, June is here, motherfucker, Like listen, July.
Speaker 1: When July comes around, I promise you, baby, we're gonna
Speaker 1: scope out the situation and if it's all good, then
Speaker 1: we can go outside. Well, Donald and I got invited
Speaker 1: to go on there's this really popular YouTube show called
Speaker 1: Good Mythical Morning and and it's it's a hugely successful show.
Speaker 1: They do it in a normal time to do what
Speaker 1: every excuse me every morning? And uh, we got an
Speaker 1: invite to do it at the end of July, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think you have to go in person.
Speaker 1: They're not doing on on on zoom And I was like,
Speaker 1: I think and we were just talking about this before
Speaker 1: the show, like and the July we could probably do
Speaker 1: that right And we don't know. I mean, we're both
Speaker 1: having the conversation, but in our heads is like, are
Speaker 1: we gonna be going to do a talk show? And
Speaker 1: the July is that seemed like are we gonna wear masks?
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand how it's gonna a lot of
Speaker 1: talking face to face too. I mean, you know, everybody's
Speaker 1: got an opinion. Minus I think it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: You know, at a certain point, don't don't you have
Speaker 1: doesn't life have to go on? I mean it does
Speaker 1: and I know, but but but but but choosing life
Speaker 1: will go on, But choosing to go into like making
Speaker 1: choices that are like I'm gonna go sit in a
Speaker 1: movie theater with a bunch of people that might be coughing,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go into a tight elevator or a restaurant.
Speaker 1: I mean those choices. I don't know. I might we
Speaker 1: might hold hold off on those. We gotta go to
Speaker 1: a break because that's what we have to do, because
Speaker 1: this is a real show that has brakes and ads
Speaker 1: and ship. Scott Fully, this isn't like show. This is
Speaker 1: a show. You guys have supporters, now, yeah, we have,
Speaker 1: and we have real fancy ones too. Um and here
Speaker 1: here's something, here's some of them. Are ever do that?
Speaker 1: I do that? I don't. I hold off to see
Speaker 1: who's gonna do it. We're like that. You guys don't
Speaker 1: enjoy this because of the delay, nothing we ever do
Speaker 1: is in sync. So we sometimes asked Dan to in
Speaker 1: post to make it seem like we know how to
Speaker 1: sing at the same time, Can you guys give me
Speaker 1: a minute to run and grab my notes? And yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't don't don't don't take a deuce, dude, We
Speaker 1: got Scott Fully here, Scott Folly, I would never deuce
Speaker 1: on your time. Okay, thank you. His minute is the
Speaker 1: equivalent of him learning learning his lines on scrubs. This
Speaker 1: is what glad you know. We talked a lot about this.
Speaker 1: Will you please say that when he comes back or
Speaker 1: not learning his lines? I should say no, he's he
Speaker 1: claims he's turned over a new leaf. But I think
Speaker 1: that's just because he's worried that potential directors and showrunners
Speaker 1: might be listening to the podcast and won't hire him.
Speaker 1: So he has this whole thing where he says that
Speaker 1: he's he's turned over a new leaf and now he
Speaker 1: learns his lines. Well, how it's a pandemic. That's his
Speaker 1: new leaf. There's nothing to learn. I know. He also
Speaker 1: said he quit weed, but I think that I will
Speaker 1: ask him if that's if that's lasted. Why is your
Speaker 1: wife's Instagram handle the mean Chick? She seems like such
Speaker 1: a nice person, does she Well, I don't know where
Speaker 1: that well, but every time I've hung out with her,
Speaker 1: she seems delightful. She is delightful her her She's Polish
Speaker 1: and her last name is domin Chick or Domean Chick,
Speaker 1: which sounds like the mean Chick. So every time someone
Speaker 1: has has a hard time pronouncing her name, she just
Speaker 1: says it sounds like the mean chick. So that's oh,
Speaker 1: I thought there was. I thought it was like a
Speaker 1: thing like, look, you might think I'm nice, but I'm
Speaker 1: a bitch. No, no, no, she's she's an asshole. But god,
Speaker 1: I love her. And she had a good part on
Speaker 1: your show too, didn't she. Yeah, then I forgot did
Speaker 1: she have a recurring or something? She had a she
Speaker 1: had a recurring role, And that was sort of one
Speaker 1: of them, one of the caveats I had when I
Speaker 1: was when I was talking about shooting this show in Prague,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, you guys want me to
Speaker 1: move over to Prague for a year. And I got
Speaker 1: a wife who's a working actress, I got three kids,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put in school, like I can't ask
Speaker 1: her to stop. And Bill was like, she could be
Speaker 1: on the show, you know whatever, those bills a good salesman.
Speaker 1: He's like, I just I just discovered who our new
Speaker 1: recurring role is. Yeah, you know, but that it was.
Speaker 1: It was it was a smart move on his part
Speaker 1: and and ours. Actually, you know, shooting over in Prague
Speaker 1: was um obviously much better for the budget. The tax
Speaker 1: breaks and the cost of doing business over there is
Speaker 1: substantially lower. So and and just the production value. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a shot in the pilot. By the way, if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen the show, go see it, even even
Speaker 1: if you just watch the pilot, because you'll be be
Speaker 1: impressed by the scope of the damn thing. I just couldn't.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a pilot, was really well done,
Speaker 1: and I was I was gonna go direct one. I
Speaker 1: was sort of intimidated. I was like, how many days
Speaker 1: you get to shoot these episodes? Because it was just
Speaker 1: we were so excited to have you over there. Man.
Speaker 1: We were so bummed when it when it fell through,
Speaker 1: and I know you got a big I got a
Speaker 1: big gig. I got a part in a good role
Speaker 1: in a movie with Christopher Walkin and my actor crush heart.
Speaker 1: Couldn't say no to that. As much as I wanted
Speaker 1: to come to Prague and Boss Scott folding around to
Speaker 1: save the show and I know she's that episode would
Speaker 1: have would have been the thing. No, But I can't
Speaker 1: wait to work with you again because I think you're
Speaker 1: fantstlastic Donald. You're so amazing in this episode. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get into the episode. Let's get the episode. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very good episode. You know we Adam Burnstein
Speaker 1: directed it, who directed our pilot. We've told you and
Speaker 1: he's a very very funny talented guy. Eric, very funny writer,
Speaker 1: and played tennis with him after this episode. You're a
Speaker 1: good tennis player. Isn't that a bit of trivia about you?
Speaker 1: That is a bit of trivia about me. I'm I
Speaker 1: can hold my own. I'm not great, but I can
Speaker 1: hold my own. That's what. That's what people who are
Speaker 1: really good say to be modest. You're really good. I
Speaker 1: think can you beat Bill? No? Yeah, Bill is really good.
Speaker 1: Bill is really good, although although these days I don't
Speaker 1: know he's gotten older. Bill. Um, you know, Bill and
Speaker 1: I we don't we all play together because it's just
Speaker 1: not fun for for either one of us. But we
Speaker 1: we often hit. Um, we've, we've, we've we've vacation together
Speaker 1: and we would like each hit with a pro on
Speaker 1: separate courts because I'm I just can just get by,
Speaker 1: but I love it. And Bills is, like, you know,
Speaker 1: played college, is really good. Um. But he would play
Speaker 1: these young pros and try his ass off too, but
Speaker 1: he would keep up with them. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was he was impressive. Yeah, no, he's
Speaker 1: he's good. He and I have gone out to hit
Speaker 1: a few times. And we have a tennis program named
Speaker 1: Christian Catholic who was a pro for a while and
Speaker 1: sort of hits with a bunch of people around town,
Speaker 1: and and we we both play with him. But Bill
Speaker 1: is very talented, as by the way, getting back to
Speaker 1: the episode, was Mr Winberg. He's a very good tennis player. Uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta say that. What I want to start to
Speaker 1: say is that you know, we're watching these episodes, Scott,
Speaker 1: and they're all Some of them are great and some
Speaker 1: of them are just okay, As as happens when you
Speaker 1: make a hundred and eighty two episodes of something. I
Speaker 1: have to say this one is particularly really fucking funny
Speaker 1: one quite a few times a bunch. Not only do
Speaker 1: we have Scott's hole and Sarah's ark, which is hilarious,
Speaker 1: but the janitor fucking with me and and telling all
Speaker 1: my patients to get surgery is so funny. And everybody
Speaker 1: every episode he talks to everybody Bill, you know, as
Speaker 1: you know, Bill has held on to this, uh this
Speaker 1: lure that in season one the Janitor only spoke to
Speaker 1: j D, and and if he was debating whether as
Speaker 1: we went forward, if if the Janitor would be just
Speaker 1: be a figure in j D's imagination. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: episode episode one twenty. He must have been like it
Speaker 1: because the Janitor talks to everybody. The Janitor is real.
Speaker 1: He's given advice, He's given medical advice to people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was really funny. Um, let's get into it. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm your beach. Very funny. Yeah, this was This is
Speaker 1: the beginning, well not the beginning of Scrubs being a musical,
Speaker 1: because we had Judy and Sam sing together. But this
Speaker 1: is the beginning of big product musical productions. Though in
Speaker 1: Scrub we're all dancing in the hallway, Yeah, singing on
Speaker 1: a on a made up fire escape. Yeah. This was
Speaker 1: our homage to West Side Story, and we clearly didn't
Speaker 1: have the rights because we're very clearly tiptoeing around it
Speaker 1: being a West Side Story spoof. But it is a
Speaker 1: West Side Story spoof. I loved it. I love the
Speaker 1: musical theater references. I thought, you know, I was, I
Speaker 1: was sitting there watching this trying to think of the
Speaker 1: sort of the theme, and you know, they talked about competition.
Speaker 1: But but whether it's whether it's you, uh j D
Speaker 1: and Turk or Cox and Kelso, like it's it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily comptian, but there's a power struggle happening here with
Speaker 1: all these characters, which was really interesting to watch. And
Speaker 1: I thought the you know, we're not obviously not there yet,
Speaker 1: but I thought that the resolution, especially when it came
Speaker 1: to you guys storyline, was a great one. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is about it's about I guess that's the theme
Speaker 1: in in in the two main story, I mean not
Speaker 1: the two main because you and Sarah on one, the
Speaker 1: Cox Kelso one and the meat Donald one is competing
Speaker 1: with your peers. And you're right, it is the first
Speaker 1: time we get into all these games that Donald and
Speaker 1: I would play over the years. Uh, these stupid, these
Speaker 1: stupid little challenges. You know, what was the one with
Speaker 1: hide the the saltine and all the many things, but
Speaker 1: this was the first tower finger. Yeah, and they're all
Speaker 1: very they're all named in a very Bill Lawrence way,
Speaker 1: you know, like steak is just called steaks like it's
Speaker 1: just but but even what Cox calls the nerve coffee Nurse,
Speaker 1: like it's it's so simple the way Bill names things,
Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. By the way, a little bit of
Speaker 1: trivia coffee nur. I don't know if you know this
Speaker 1: is uh Matt Tarsus beautiful wife, Katie Tarsus Matto, Matt
Speaker 1: Tarsa Scott fully. Yeah, I know Matt, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was his wife. Matt tarses Is was one
Speaker 1: of our great writers on Scrubs and he created along
Speaker 1: with me Are our ABC show that didn't work Alex
Speaker 1: hanc and uh, he's a great human being and has
Speaker 1: a beautiful wife. And I stopped and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's Katie Tarsa is um playing coffee nurse. She was great.
Speaker 1: And I texted and I said, your wife is so
Speaker 1: beautiful in this episode and he said yes, And I said,
Speaker 1: I enough, What do you got? Do you got anything else?
Speaker 1: This dude is fu Hilary. What's the name of the
Speaker 1: gentleman who played miss Red Stoler? Is his name? So
Speaker 1: this guy, I gotta tell you, if you are a
Speaker 1: director or a filmmaker or a showrunner, you need to
Speaker 1: hire this guy because every sentence he said, I laughed
Speaker 1: out loud, out loud. I remember laughing when we were
Speaker 1: making the show and him doing this. The lines in
Speaker 1: the Chicken that hit had me going for days. He
Speaker 1: takes the funniest he takes the funniest stutter and I
Speaker 1: tried to write it down because the word what he's
Speaker 1: trying to say is no, you said chicken. But when
Speaker 1: it comes out is he goes, no chicken, And like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can't write that in the script.
Speaker 1: That's just an actor coming up with something funny. It
Speaker 1: was hilarious. He's been around for years. He's that character
Speaker 1: actor guy who just pops up and he slays every
Speaker 1: time you see him. He's got such a dry sense
Speaker 1: of humor that is innately watchable. There is this there's
Speaker 1: this type of really funny actor. They're often called character
Speaker 1: actors that like Fred that can that and Bill would
Speaker 1: hire lots of them on the show over years, and
Speaker 1: he jokingly would call him his assassins. And Bob Condannon
Speaker 1: is another one, and they would just come on and
Speaker 1: they would have like a few lines, but everything they
Speaker 1: said was was monny and uh. And I just want
Speaker 1: to say to Fred and anyone who knows Fred, every
Speaker 1: single thing you said on this episode made us laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he came back to later on not you know, seasons later. Actually,
Speaker 1: I I thought he would be somebody who would come
Speaker 1: back into the hospital over and over again. I think
Speaker 1: when this was, when this episode was done, I remember
Speaker 1: telling Bill, like, you gotta have that guy back. You
Speaker 1: gotta have him. He should be a regular. He's hilarious.
Speaker 1: He was really funny. Yeah on the treadmill. Yeah, one,
Speaker 1: you look great. You got that young you got that
Speaker 1: young body where the shoulders haven't really caught up yet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where they're like huge, your
Speaker 1: shoulders like so high and everything. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. When you're like a baby, what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: you start growing lats and ship Anyway, Uh, when making
Speaker 1: that the fall, was that you or was that the
Speaker 1: same question asking you to do it? The fall was me? Um?
Speaker 1: I was. I was terrified about this. This was the
Speaker 1: scene in the script that had me the most nervous,
Speaker 1: and and for ridiculous reasons, Like there is something about
Speaker 1: watching people run on screen that you can look the
Speaker 1: the gate, your gate. You can look like an idiot,
Speaker 1: or you can look okay. You know, like if you
Speaker 1: you see people run on screen, you're like that's a
Speaker 1: weird run and it's it's quick and easy to judge.
Speaker 1: So I was very nervous about that. Um. But I
Speaker 1: also felt that the here far be it from me
Speaker 1: to be a writer, but I felt that the scene
Speaker 1: needed like a button at the end. It didn't, it
Speaker 1: didn't come together quite right. And I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I've thought about doing it, and in the scene,
Speaker 1: I just halfway through the first ticket decided to do it,
Speaker 1: and everyone flipped out like we didn't even like, They're like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Oh my god, what happened? Guys? Can
Speaker 1: we get a medic in here? Sometime? I was like no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, it was a bit. It was a
Speaker 1: big guy. That's pretty courageous of you to do a
Speaker 1: a unscheduled, almost proudfall on a treadmill running. That's advanced Scott,
Speaker 1: thank you, my friend. Well, I pride myself on physical comedy,
Speaker 1: although I never get to do it my wife aside
Speaker 1: from at home, and my wife is sick of it. Um,
Speaker 1: but it was it was Unfortunately they liked it after
Speaker 1: they calmed down and I had to do it, you
Speaker 1: know seven more times? Right, Well, good thing you survived.
Speaker 1: I liked it because you were such a good ying
Speaker 1: yang for for for Sarah, because you're both sort of
Speaker 1: goofy and nervous and neurotic and uh, and it was
Speaker 1: just so she's doing all this ridiculous stuff and you're
Speaker 1: seemingly holding it together and then you she looks away
Speaker 1: and you trip on the treadmill. I thought that was
Speaker 1: really funny. Thanks man. It was you know, finding it's
Speaker 1: always a hard thing when you first come onto a show,
Speaker 1: even even though you guys were in your first seasons.
Speaker 1: Is the twentieth episode, and so to try to establish
Speaker 1: a character amongst all these other characters is a really
Speaker 1: hard thing to do. And and Sarah and I talked
Speaker 1: about it a bit, and uh, you know, I think
Speaker 1: what we came up with her sewan and worked ultimately.
Speaker 1: You know, he got a little more confident as this
Speaker 1: the show went on in his episodes got there. But
Speaker 1: but it was fun playing this sort of nervous, neurotic
Speaker 1: uh somewhat insecure. Um, kid, it was really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your your your character arc throughout the show is it's
Speaker 1: really it's very interesting because you do start off, you
Speaker 1: and Sarah are pretty much the same character. You're just
Speaker 1: a male version of her, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you developed this confidence, right, and then you lose this
Speaker 1: confidence all of a sudden when she breaks up with
Speaker 1: you out of nowhere, you know, when you grow the
Speaker 1: beard and he rides a dolphin. They had me doing
Speaker 1: some strange things, which I hope we get to talk
Speaker 1: about in future episodes. Looking where I am inviting myself over.
Speaker 1: You know, Scott, you are so good for our ratings
Speaker 1: that we are going to have you back. I hope
Speaker 1: you'll come back on episodes you have nothing to do with.
Speaker 1: I would love to just to make fun of people.
Speaker 1: Know we're already you're you're we're already inviting you back
Speaker 1: because we have to talk about Sea World. Uh and
Speaker 1: uh yeah. I would like to say that I know
Speaker 1: Younger supports SeaWorld, but at the time, we were happy
Speaker 1: to go to the Sea World. I remember being so
Speaker 1: piste off because I couldn't go. None of my scenes
Speaker 1: were at Sea World. Straight. Let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: Y'all are all going to San Diego to hang out
Speaker 1: for a night in San Diego and ride dolphins and
Speaker 1: I gotta stay back at my fucking hospital. I was it,
Speaker 1: But this was all before we all saw the documentary Blackfish,
Speaker 1: and yes, and now we don't. We don't go there anymore.
Speaker 1: And now we we we we encourage people to not
Speaker 1: go there anymore. But before we were all, uh, before
Speaker 1: we before we do, before we were animal woke and
Speaker 1: and Scott, you you did get to forlornly rid a dolphin,
Speaker 1: which is one of the coolest things anyone could ever
Speaker 1: do in their career. The things that I got to
Speaker 1: do on this show were still some of the highlights
Speaker 1: of my career. I mean, between writing on the dolphin, uh,
Speaker 1: doing this Betty, the seal bit. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember this, but I had like a phone call
Speaker 1: with Sarah and I turned my head and the seal
Speaker 1: turns his head towards me, and I look away like
Speaker 1: it sticks its tongue out of me. I got to
Speaker 1: be like a like damn close to a killer whale
Speaker 1: and a beluga whale, and it was It was a
Speaker 1: really amazing experience and I'll never forget it. I think,
Speaker 1: how sad that whale was, Scott, while you were acting
Speaker 1: with it, I had no idea it didn't let on
Speaker 1: you gonna get me up for that one. Scott's I
Speaker 1: had no idea. I did not know it. Didn't say
Speaker 1: a damn thing. I would have been I would have
Speaker 1: had his Listen, we're we're trying to buy it back
Speaker 1: with some karma now by saying don't support it any longer.
Speaker 1: So there you go, there you go. All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk about let's talk about when he goes I love
Speaker 1: when he goes, um, what do you eleven with? With?
Speaker 1: With Hoffner, I go, he goes, what are you serving
Speaker 1: for dinner the night? And I go, That's that's not
Speaker 1: really my area. He goes, I'd like chicken. That guy
Speaker 1: was great. He like just chicken, chicken, chicken. So I
Speaker 1: was I don't know where. I don't know where in
Speaker 1: the show that is. But I want to talk for
Speaker 1: a second about YouTube singing on the fire Escape, which
Speaker 1: was a I loved it, and I love the musical
Speaker 1: theater references and and those are something that UH find
Speaker 1: a home throughout the life of this television show. But
Speaker 1: the smile that you had on your face, Zack, that
Speaker 1: we were unable to hide, made me rewind it two
Speaker 1: or three times to be like, is he just smiling
Speaker 1: because he's singing? Or no, no, no, he can't hold
Speaker 1: back his latter Scott, I had a Phantom of the
Speaker 1: opera beach towel hung on my wall as a child.
Speaker 1: I'm very aware this was me living my best life.
Speaker 1: It was someone your Seinfeld moment, someone your Seinfeld moment,
Speaker 1: unable to hide your smile. Someone was paying me well
Speaker 1: to hold Donald and sing musical theater to him. I
Speaker 1: was like, how couldn't life get better than that? It
Speaker 1: was fantastic and I appreciated you not being able to
Speaker 1: contain your show. Getting a getting a lead in a
Speaker 1: TV show was was enough. Now you're letting me seeing
Speaker 1: a love song to Donald on a fire escape. Come on.
Speaker 1: It was great. And by the way, the way you
Speaker 1: guys did the dancing in the hallway, everybody looked professional
Speaker 1: like everyone well obviously everyone that wasn't the lead was
Speaker 1: a dancer. And I'm going to say, this is the
Speaker 1: best I've ever seen Sarah dance. Also to to Sara
Speaker 1: can dance, Sarah, she can't sing, but she can dance. Dude.
Speaker 1: She was on fire and this ship, Dude, like I've
Speaker 1: seen Sarah dance, and Sarah dances like you know, Sarah, Dad,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna doces like she dances. Well, she knows her.
Speaker 1: She has her little thing she does which is adorable.
Speaker 1: But she this she was doing like full on you know,
Speaker 1: Broadway choreography. Yeah, dude, but Rob Maschio, Rob Maschio, did
Speaker 1: you know? I wonder if Rod musical theater. I bet
Speaker 1: he did. I bet he did. We should have a
Speaker 1: section where we go to Rob U. No, we should
Speaker 1: go to Rob and now we go to Rob. No,
Speaker 1: he's like a correspondent Rob. Yeah, going to Rob live,
Speaker 1: very successful realtor now at the beach Scott. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know that. So when you're ready to
Speaker 1: buy your beach house, you better use Rob Maschio. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be ready to buy my beach house for
Speaker 1: a while one, but I'll use him when I do. Yes,
Speaker 1: I encourage anyone. We always like to give Rob shout outs.
Speaker 1: You can get Rob on Cameo and you can pay
Speaker 1: him a nominal fee to send you a video where
Speaker 1: he high fives your friends. So go on Cameo and
Speaker 1: hire Rob Maschio. And of course, if you're looking for
Speaker 1: real estate on the West side of Los Angeles, we
Speaker 1: encourage you to uh to hire him. I'd like to
Speaker 1: go on cameo and have him and pay him whatever
Speaker 1: it costs just to watch him run line by the way, Scott,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I don't know what's your birthday, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna send you a cameo from Rob. Oh that's great coming,
Speaker 1: Oh it's coming. Oh yeah. I hope Rob will give
Speaker 1: it to me for free. But if not, I'm willing no, no,
Speaker 1: no camera. I'm gonna donald. Don't you think we should
Speaker 1: hire Rob to get send Scott fully a high five cameo?
Speaker 1: I think that would be the best thing ever. And
Speaker 1: if you have to share it too, you know you
Speaker 1: can get Really my brother loves baseball more than anything,
Speaker 1: and they have like old school you know, they have
Speaker 1: sports players. Is that what you call them? Sports? Sports players? People? Sure, athletes, Yes,
Speaker 1: they have athletes, sports players. They have famous sports players
Speaker 1: and uh and bad guys. But some of them are
Speaker 1: like you. I don't know if you like Lenny Dikestron enough.
Speaker 1: You've heard Lenny Extroward Stern lately, but he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's gotten a little wacky. And I was thinking
Speaker 1: about getting Lenny dikest from my brother to like send
Speaker 1: him a message. Are you guys on that YouTube cameo.
Speaker 1: I'm not on there, but I I occasionally scroll it
Speaker 1: because there's some people that I think would be very
Speaker 1: funny to hire for other people. Yeah, um and uh
Speaker 1: and so I've I've thought about it. But like, like
Speaker 1: I saw Olivia Wilde I follow on Instagram and I'm
Speaker 1: friends with her, and she she loved that that documentary Cheer.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw Cheer, but one of
Speaker 1: her friends hired all the kids, all the kids from
Speaker 1: Cheer on there, hired every single one of them to
Speaker 1: send her birthday messages. And so for her feet on
Speaker 1: her birthday was all the kids from Cheers sending her
Speaker 1: birthday messages. I thought that idea. So there you go.
Speaker 1: You can. It's a great gift idea. There you go.
Speaker 1: I'm giving giving Cameo a shout out, although Donald and
Speaker 1: I are not on there. Um have you guys, Have
Speaker 1: you guys ever met anyone that's as competitive as these
Speaker 1: guys are on this show that just you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you are competent. You think I'm not in life, but
Speaker 1: sports wise, you are when it when it comes when
Speaker 1: you were putting possible back in the day. When it
Speaker 1: comes to playing sports, against anyone, absolutely, regardless of what
Speaker 1: it is. I want to win. By the way. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know anybody in life that's like
Speaker 1: that other than Bill Lawrence. I was gonna say law
Speaker 1: other than Bill Lawrence. Bill is the most competitive person
Speaker 1: I know in real life. Where you where it's like
Speaker 1: you can't walk, don't walk faster than him, He's gonna
Speaker 1: think it's a race. This is probably why it's in
Speaker 1: the script, because we have I have a funny Bill
Speaker 1: Lawrence walking story. We were in um We took a
Speaker 1: trip from Prague when we were shooting Whiskey Cavalier over
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam. And if you guys have never been there,
Speaker 1: it's a huge bicycle culture, right, everyone rides bikes around.
Speaker 1: So we're walking down the sidewalks and wherever you wherever
Speaker 1: you are, you're inundated with these bicycle bells ringing constantly
Speaker 1: telling you to get out of the way, and you
Speaker 1: don't know where they're coming from, and you're looking behind
Speaker 1: you and you're always stepping off trying to get out
Speaker 1: of the way. And we were walking down and there
Speaker 1: was nobody around us. It had to be two in
Speaker 1: the morning. We've just seen uh, raiding concert in Amsterdam,
Speaker 1: shout out every show, even the out. My wife was
Speaker 1: he you know, Bill was like, we're gonna go flat
Speaker 1: Amsterdam and go see him. And he does this song
Speaker 1: and my wife was like, oh my god, he to
Speaker 1: sing only you. So of course in the middle of
Speaker 1: his thing, he's like and for Marika, only you, and
Speaker 1: she's like tearing up. I'm like, I think he's making
Speaker 1: fun of you, babe. He doesn't want to sing the song. Um.
Speaker 1: But we're walking back to the hotel and there's you know,
Speaker 1: it's dead, it's two in the morning, and they are
Speaker 1: all these bikes parked along. Nobody's riding bikes, but they're
Speaker 1: all sort of chained up along the sidewalk and we're walking.
Speaker 1: Bills a couple uh steps ahead of me and I
Speaker 1: ring one of these locked up bikes bells. He damn
Speaker 1: near went to his knees. He was so afraid. He
Speaker 1: had such a PTSD. I've never seen Bill like, oh god,
Speaker 1: stuff like he I don't think we'll ever go back
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam because, um, all right, we wanda together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Donald and I went to amstam together. That was dangerous.
Speaker 1: Care I don't know if we can tell any of
Speaker 1: those stories. I don't think we can. I know they
Speaker 1: want to hear it. We have some good time. Did
Speaker 1: you guys have a good time in Amsterdam? It was
Speaker 1: the best, the best. Yeah, I mean it wasn't Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that kind of good time because we
Speaker 1: were I was with work people. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it was that kind of good time. We tried God's
Speaker 1: let Us and it was delicious. Oh Jesus, they got
Speaker 1: you didn't have one of those what are those? This
Speaker 1: is before God let us? This is before God's let
Speaker 1: Us was legal in California. We were really Yeah, they
Speaker 1: really like it over there, you know. Now we had
Speaker 1: it was a moonpie or there's something like that over
Speaker 1: there that you eat and it just recks you. Um.
Speaker 1: Oh I wish, I mean, I wish I would have
Speaker 1: known enough. No, this is a real show. Now, we're
Speaker 1: not just two guys doing this out of their closets.
Speaker 1: We have to go to advertisers. We'll be right, we'll
Speaker 1: be right back. We're back. I'm looking at I'm looking
Speaker 1: at both Scott Foley and Donald Phazon in their closets.
Speaker 1: Scott's asked to continually wave his arm to make his
Speaker 1: lights go. I wish we were recording the video of this,
Speaker 1: because it would be the light was We'll start putting
Speaker 1: them out. We'll start putting one, all right, bring them in,
Speaker 1: Joel and Uh and Dan adjust the mike for Donald's
Speaker 1: Oprah introduction because you know it can get loud. Donald,
Speaker 1: please adjust your mike for the Okay, I'll back up
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's okay. Worried about it. No, he's ready.
Speaker 1: He's a professional. Donald. Here comes Jenny. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: give it up for Jenny pul Star. I think it's Pulston.
Speaker 1: Is it Pulston? Jenny, Yes, that's correct, that's what I said. Hi, Jenny,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fake Doctor's Real Friends. You picked a very
Speaker 1: good day to be on because we have a very
Speaker 1: funny and handsome guest named Scott. Fully you might know
Speaker 1: him from the show Scandal. Felicity Whiskey, Foxtrot, Scrub Whiskey, cavalier,
Speaker 1: h H. Scott, brutal Scott Scott. Do not flirt with Jenny. Okay,
Speaker 1: she's there, got all the flags behind her. She looks fantastic. Jenny,
Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you calling in from? So?
Speaker 1: I live in Canberra, Australia. Canberra is the capital city
Speaker 1: of my fine country on the West coast. Yes it is,
Speaker 1: Scott Scott showing off that he knows it's on the
Speaker 1: West Coast. I lived in Australia, Jenny, I know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Wait when did you live in Australia
Speaker 1: as a kid? I lived in Sydney for four years
Speaker 1: and snive's Sydney is it? Is? It near Perth? But
Speaker 1: it's near Melbourne, Melbourne, But no, it's on the West
Speaker 1: coast of Australia. This is so embarrassing. I want I
Speaker 1: want everyone to know that the American public school system
Speaker 1: spends very little time on geography. I think it was
Speaker 1: like two weeks in seventh grade or Australia. Yes, Um, Jenny,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Do you have
Speaker 1: a question for for any of us? You can ask
Speaker 1: us anything, ask us anything. Yeah. I just want to
Speaker 1: just say I, UM started watching your show when I
Speaker 1: was in my early twenties, Um, like you guys were,
Speaker 1: and it really resonated with me. Then I just started
Speaker 1: my career. I had a mentor um, you know, learning
Speaker 1: to do things on your own without a safety net.
Speaker 1: And then I watched the series again a few years
Speaker 1: later when I had my children and they were babies
Speaker 1: and I was up in the night. I put it
Speaker 1: on UH, and certain episodes resonated in a different way
Speaker 1: because I was UH and researched every school holidays, UH,
Speaker 1: and there's something new that pops up that's um, you know,
Speaker 1: based on an experience that I've just had. It just
Speaker 1: makes me think of, you know, something different. So I
Speaker 1: just wanted to know, with your experience of the last
Speaker 1: twenty years, what advice would you give to your younger
Speaker 1: selves now? Oh man, you mean I mean people are
Speaker 1: our characters. Yeah, people. While while making the show, I
Speaker 1: wish I could have been more present, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I hate to jump in front of you, Scott,
Speaker 1: but I gotta get to this right away. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I was so uh not there. Let's say, when we
Speaker 1: were making that, I was very much worried about being
Speaker 1: out and about I was more interested in what came
Speaker 1: with what came after work than what came with work
Speaker 1: back when we were making Scrubs, And I wish I
Speaker 1: could have been more present at UH when it came
Speaker 1: to doing my job back then. That's the one thing
Speaker 1: that I look back and say, you know what, I know.
Speaker 1: I I know I had fun, and I know I
Speaker 1: enjoyed myself. I wish I could have experienced all of
Speaker 1: that while making it. Yeah, my actually is similar in
Speaker 1: a sense that you know, I think we took it
Speaker 1: for granted that this would happen all the time. That
Speaker 1: is to say that, you know, we've spoken this on
Speaker 1: other podcasts before, that these really special friendships would would
Speaker 1: be on every job we did. And and um, I think,
Speaker 1: and we've discussed before. You know how we've all done
Speaker 1: gone on and done these other jobs and some some
Speaker 1: are successful, some are not, but still to this day,
Speaker 1: the bond that we all had that comes across on
Speaker 1: the screen. I think it's the reason people really one
Speaker 1: of the reasons, of course the writing first and foremost,
Speaker 1: but another reason was that the love that you see
Speaker 1: between these characters was real. It was it was you're
Speaker 1: we're watching people who genuinely cared as much about each
Speaker 1: other in real life as as they did as the
Speaker 1: characters did on screen. So I think that I think
Speaker 1: I took that for granted. I was a young actor.
Speaker 1: This is my first big job, and and I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what it's always like to be on a set.
Speaker 1: Everyone loves each other, everyone wants to hang out on weekends,
Speaker 1: even after we've worked all these days. And oh my god,
Speaker 1: the scripts are always hilarious. And and it took so
Speaker 1: many years to be like, oh no, this is a
Speaker 1: diamond and the rough. Not only the writing staff that
Speaker 1: Bill assembled was just the dream team. I mean, they've
Speaker 1: all gone off to be hugely successful on their own night,
Speaker 1: but but also just the bond that that the seven
Speaker 1: main characters of Us had um was was something I
Speaker 1: haven't really ever seen again. Um, whether I'm an actor
Speaker 1: or a director, it's just it was just so rare um.
Speaker 1: So that's what I think too. It's a similar answer
Speaker 1: to Donald. Now, Scott's been on three and in my opinion,
Speaker 1: three very successful shows. I'm interested to hear how he
Speaker 1: might not, he might not have an answer related to ours,
Speaker 1: those not to ours, But yeah, but I'm I'm interested
Speaker 1: in hearing if it was like that for each one
Speaker 1: of those successes, you know what I mean, Like Felicity,
Speaker 1: you know, I think, just directly answering your question, I
Speaker 1: think I for me, looking back, if I had to
Speaker 1: do it again, I would I would try to relax.
Speaker 1: I think I was holding on really tight. It was
Speaker 1: very important to me. I didn't I didn't go to college.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do anything else. This was my
Speaker 1: only shot. Really, Like, if I wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: a working actor, I'm be digging holes. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what else I do. So I was. I
Speaker 1: was really uptight and nervous about making sure I got
Speaker 1: it right and and really focused on work. And I think, I, uh,
Speaker 1: if I had to do it again, I'd take a
Speaker 1: breather and um, be more like Donald, but not not
Speaker 1: that far. Not that far, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like we were. I was young and wanted to be
Speaker 1: successful and was working towards a goal. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: at a certain point you got to sort of stop
Speaker 1: and smell the flowers too. Did you guys all get
Speaker 1: along on Scandal? We did? You know? I was hoping
Speaker 1: that I was hoping to get some clickbait going. Here's
Speaker 1: no man, I've been I was looking for ever since
Speaker 1: I've done Scrubs. I was looking for a show that
Speaker 1: had a similar vibe, a similar friendship, not just in
Speaker 1: front of the camera but behind it. And I found
Speaker 1: it on Scandal and we still keep in touch. I
Speaker 1: get text where I have a group group text chain.
Speaker 1: I get something multiple things daily. Uh, we vacation together?
Speaker 1: Could I join that text? Scott? If you have something
Speaker 1: to offer, I'd love Do you know I have a
Speaker 1: long history with Tony Goldman and uh, I know you do, yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm I love that man a lot. And he
Speaker 1: directed a movie I was in called The Last Kiss,
Speaker 1: and we've stayed friendly over the years, and I I
Speaker 1: just think he's a very very special human being. I
Speaker 1: wish he was the real president. I wish he was
Speaker 1: the real president. I think we all wish someone else
Speaker 1: was the real president right now. Sorry, Jenny, that's not
Speaker 1: that's what you're getting. You don't have to bring an
Speaker 1: Australian into our political situation. Jenny. Do you have another
Speaker 1: question for any of us? Yes? I do, um because
Speaker 1: I want to look out for my fellow Australians. I
Speaker 1: just want to ask, why do you think Dr Cox
Speaker 1: tapes to Jackman? You know, this is a question that's
Speaker 1: been asked so often and we never answered it. I
Speaker 1: think we're going to throw it to Bill. But my
Speaker 1: theory is that Cox, who was such an alpha competitive
Speaker 1: guy was jealous because at the time Hugh Jackman, when
Speaker 1: we were making the show, it was right at the
Speaker 1: time with Hugh Jackman exploding and becoming a megastar who
Speaker 1: was not just your average megastar. He was doing everything.
Speaker 1: He could see everything, he could see, and he could dance,
Speaker 1: he could host award shows, he could be an action star,
Speaker 1: he could be a dramatic star. He was you know,
Speaker 1: it was he was everywhere and he was doing everything
Speaker 1: and everyone liked him. It wasn't, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of stars become polarizing. He wasn't everybody. Everybody loved him.
Speaker 1: This dude could just dude could host the Tony's and
Speaker 1: then stabbed somebody up as Wolverine Man. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like just after one eight. So I think, um, Jenny,
Speaker 1: that's my guess is that Cox was the character of
Speaker 1: Cox was jealous of this handsome, you know, muscular man
Speaker 1: who could do anything and everything and people just loved
Speaker 1: him and endored him, and so he was jealous of him.
Speaker 1: But let's ask Bill, because that's a good ask Bill, Bill.
Speaker 1: The fans have been asking for many years. And now
Speaker 1: a very nice woman from Australia has asked, and the
Speaker 1: we just had to get the answer. Why does Dr
Speaker 1: Cox hate Hugh Jackman so much? Look, we love Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 1: When we were trying to come up with who Dr
Speaker 1: Cox hated for no reason, I think we thought it
Speaker 1: was important that we came up with somebody that everybody
Speaker 1: loved and that could do everything. I mean, who has
Speaker 1: anything against Hugh Jackman. He's Wolverine, you know, he's in
Speaker 1: action movies. He's apparently a lovely guy. He's handsome, he's
Speaker 1: like People Magazine sexiest person. Uh. He can sing, he
Speaker 1: can dance you five seven eight, slid that one in. Uh.
Speaker 1: He starred in The Music Man on Broadway and that
Speaker 1: Peter Allan thing. He's just two damn talented. My buddy,
Speaker 1: Scott Folly is there, Scott torture them, Jenny, I hope
Speaker 1: that worked for you. Yes, five six seven eights No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what most people only Bill usually gets the
Speaker 1: song when he says it. But because Scott least so
Speaker 1: darn charming, Dan hit the button again. It couldn't control them.
Speaker 1: Sick of it. Let me let me control my home,
Speaker 1: tiny little universe. Please, Jimmy, I'm going to give you
Speaker 1: one more question. Uh yeah, yeah. My other question was
Speaker 1: what's your proudest moment from being on the show performance?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I really enjoyed doing the musical theater the
Speaker 1: the musical episode. I had a lot of fun doing that.
Speaker 1: Growing up, I did a lot of musical theater, but
Speaker 1: not at that scope or that level. And a lot
Speaker 1: of the people that you know, we're in Scrubs the musical, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw later on in La La Land or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that made me feel really good, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I danced with some of the some of l A's
Speaker 1: best dancers and stuff like that, and got to perform
Speaker 1: with some of l A's best uh. And you know,
Speaker 1: as you know, everybody comes here to make it in
Speaker 1: the industry, and it felt good to be amongst Hollywood's
Speaker 1: elite dances and being able to dance with them. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed that. I'm very proud that I'm going to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I think I'm proud of that episode two.
Speaker 1: And also I'm really proud of you know, it was
Speaker 1: really underappreciated, I think, but we did this um sort
Speaker 1: of Princess Brian homage episode. Um that was a fantasys
Speaker 1: and and sort of a medieval thing and it kind
Speaker 1: of it was I believe it was during the writer
Speaker 1: strike season and uh, the season ended early and and
Speaker 1: we didn't know if the show was coming back, and
Speaker 1: it was. It was sort of presented as the season
Speaker 1: finale and possibly a series finale because no one knew
Speaker 1: if he were coming back, and so it kind of
Speaker 1: got treated like, oh, what does that have to do
Speaker 1: with scrubs or ending the show? And but I really
Speaker 1: am proud of the directing work I did on it,
Speaker 1: and uh, and I think it looks really pretty and
Speaker 1: and uh and it was a huge scale for for
Speaker 1: some myself. Scope was huge. Yeah, it was. It was big,
Speaker 1: and we spent a lot of money and I think
Speaker 1: it looked like it and a lot of people worked
Speaker 1: very hard on it. And then it sort of got
Speaker 1: underappreciated because people were like, please tell me, that's not
Speaker 1: the series finale, and I was like, no one meant
Speaker 1: that that was the series finale. But I thought that
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah, I love that episode. I remember, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jenny. All Right, we have to uh to
Speaker 1: move on, but thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show, Scott. Do you want to say anything Jenny
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. I'd like to thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the show too, Jenny. I I hope
Speaker 1: forgive me for for getting into this, but I hope, Uh,
Speaker 1: everything's everyone's okay now that you guys have those terrible
Speaker 1: fires and we were all sort of thinking about you
Speaker 1: over over on the side of the world. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad you guys are better. Yeah, it's been a big,
Speaker 1: very difficult year, but yeah, we're all getting there. Because
Speaker 1: Scott's message was nicer than mine. So I would like
Speaker 1: to say that I hope everything's okay. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1: That's what we call it, Calbert joke. Everybody all right,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jenny, Thanks for everyone on. Thanks very sweet,
Speaker 1: very very sweet. You know, j D is a rat.
Speaker 1: Hold up, let's get into this. J D is a
Speaker 1: little bitch. He's a rat. He is a rat. When
Speaker 1: I go and tell on you though, how funny is
Speaker 1: that fantasy with me on Johnny's lap, he goes, Who's
Speaker 1: he goes, who's my big boy? Hi? Hi? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: was great. I love that. I love that they show
Speaker 1: you the two the two sides of you know, when
Speaker 1: something bad happens, they show you the two sides. They
Speaker 1: show you the one that runs right to the principle
Speaker 1: and it's like and and cries to the principle, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and he did this. And then they show
Speaker 1: the other person who runs to the principal and freaking
Speaker 1: tells the principal off. John C's character. Cox is the
Speaker 1: dad that goes to the school and beats up the
Speaker 1: bully for fucking with his kid, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: beats up twelve year old boy with his son. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna touch about something like that? How about this?
Speaker 1: Go tell your dad, don't tell your dad. The Dr
Speaker 1: Cox smacked the ship out of you, and it goes
Speaker 1: it goes south. But it was very interesting to watch
Speaker 1: the two dynamics, like one guy, one guy is a
Speaker 1: complete rat, And it was funny. I didn't even see that.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see that interpretation of it. But that's
Speaker 1: smart that that is exactly what happens. It's it's the
Speaker 1: two sides of a coin of how you deal with
Speaker 1: the situation. Yeah, anyway, why would why would Turk even
Speaker 1: promise to side with me? I mean, he's a really
Speaker 1: good doctor. We know that he's not gonna go not
Speaker 1: not It's almost ridiculous that he wouldn't even say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't worry, I'll back you up. He's gonna come
Speaker 1: in and give his honest analysis. Right. Well, I think
Speaker 1: he was. I think Turk was trusting the fact that
Speaker 1: you had done your job, and you know, you were
Speaker 1: literally calling him in for favor or just just tell
Speaker 1: this dude that he doesn't have anything to worry about.
Speaker 1: And then when Turk looked at it, he's like, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, right, if you gotta you gott I look
Speaker 1: at it like, you know, if there's any if there's
Speaker 1: a slight chance that Turk gets the opportunity to operate,
Speaker 1: he's gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna operate. Right. I think
Speaker 1: that's the real thing. Obviously taken from Obviously this is
Speaker 1: all inspired by what we were told by real doctors
Speaker 1: that the surgeons are more apt to be like let's
Speaker 1: cut him up. Yeah, let's get it out, let's do it,
Speaker 1: let's do our let's do our thing. And um, I
Speaker 1: love at twelve fifteen when when when the janitor is
Speaker 1: is giving my patient advice and he's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with surgery, and I go he's a janitor and
Speaker 1: he goes, but he he seems confident again. The guy
Speaker 1: did not say his sentence that I didn't laugh out
Speaker 1: loud at its very funny. How about Sarah All dolled
Speaker 1: up for Scott Foley at five beautiful? How lucky was I?
Speaker 1: And my stupid big overcoat too big? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Did you not have a fitting? Do you remember it
Speaker 1: was like that? Only the only thing I can chalk
Speaker 1: it up to was that was just what people were
Speaker 1: wearing back then. But it seemed really big, that was huge.
Speaker 1: It was the rmany baggy looked back then. Do you
Speaker 1: really think it was style or just fit wrong? Because
Speaker 1: you're you're you're supposed to be playing this like heart
Speaker 1: throb and and there there you are. I mean, you
Speaker 1: should be looking like in a nice outfit. I have
Speaker 1: to think it's it was style or else someone. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's you know, no less than three people but maybe
Speaker 1: thirty people on set who should be like, hey, he
Speaker 1: looks really stupid in that. And it must have been
Speaker 1: It must have been the style, because that jacket would
Speaker 1: it came down to your knees almost, and it was huge.
Speaker 1: It was like a doctor's smuck, A monster just ridiculous. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought Sarah looked beautiful moment, and then I think
Speaker 1: she looked beautiful even after. I know, even it was
Speaker 1: so funny. She's covered with a puke and blood and poop. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: they did a really good job with her. And that
Speaker 1: was it was. And then you guys, you guys get
Speaker 1: into that really funny, awkward poop conversation. They cut, they
Speaker 1: cut to Judy. It's so funny because you guys are
Speaker 1: awkwardly flirting about poop and you cut the Judy's dead
Speaker 1: pan face. Well, you know, and then right after that
Speaker 1: there's a there's a great moment where the nurse has like,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Sarah and Judy are talking. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody noticed. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: And then one of the nurses walked by and says, hey, poopy,
Speaker 1: which I thought was just hilarious. Alma, yes, I'm really
Speaker 1: I'm really noticing, and all these years later that many
Speaker 1: of a Looma's lines are are moving. She's always walking,
Speaker 1: always on the move. Hey poopy, we can slaughter into
Speaker 1: someone else's shot. But that was very funny to you.
Speaker 1: Your whole conversation on how you took a poop. Sure,
Speaker 1: not here, but not here before, but before earlier I
Speaker 1: was down there. I think, you know, we we we
Speaker 1: delve into their relationship Peper in other episodes, but I
Speaker 1: think that's really the foundation for them. You know, poop
Speaker 1: is the foundation. It's a house built on poop. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the relationship didn't last long, and we know
Speaker 1: pop depends on what you had, but it should not
Speaker 1: have built their house on the foundation of pop. What
Speaker 1: about fourteen twenty when the janitor goes, look, I'm just
Speaker 1: a genitor. I don't know much, but I know you
Speaker 1: need surgery. How did he get in that room? How
Speaker 1: he was that the was that the beginning of the
Speaker 1: speech where at the end of it he grabs a
Speaker 1: newspaper and goes back into the toilet. Uh no, that's
Speaker 1: the different that that was jus. That's before he starts
Speaker 1: going like, that's the that's the most moment with my patient.
Speaker 1: But then we then we cut around to him going
Speaker 1: to all of my patients around the entire hospital, telling
Speaker 1: them and they all need surgery. You have to That
Speaker 1: is hilarious and neel so funny that I'm having surgery
Speaker 1: right now. Oh that was that was great. I'm having
Speaker 1: surgery and I'm loving it, and I'm loving it. It's
Speaker 1: a bizarre infomercial. And then Donald, what do you say,
Speaker 1: Let's get you out of your skin. Let's cut you
Speaker 1: out of your skin. I'm having that. Girl did a
Speaker 1: great job. I'm having surgery right now and loving it.
Speaker 1: You know, the writers always have always done a good
Speaker 1: job on this show of um of finding really subtle
Speaker 1: gender specific moments that, uh, there's something that and I
Speaker 1: think Bill takes a lot of it from Christa. You know,
Speaker 1: there's moments where he's like, there was a character at
Speaker 1: one point in the show. I don't remember what season
Speaker 1: it was, but a woman talks about chewing on her
Speaker 1: thumbnail until it bleeds with the side of her thumbtail bleeds,
Speaker 1: which is a very specific sort of woman thing. And
Speaker 1: there was a moment in here where Judy says, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm not sure there's a cat heaven,
Speaker 1: Like I don't tell Turkey sometimes cry because'm not sure
Speaker 1: there's a cat heaven. Like I thought that was a genius,
Speaker 1: really subtle gender specific moment this period of what you're saying, Scott.
Speaker 1: Then they cut to Sarah and the look on her
Speaker 1: face is like, there's no cat heaven. Do you mean
Speaker 1: there's no cat heaven? It's a really really it's a
Speaker 1: really subtle moment, but they cut to Sarah's face as
Speaker 1: though she's just heart like for the first time there's
Speaker 1: no cat haaven, like she's just had Santa Claus room
Speaker 1: for I thought it was great, man, I thought it
Speaker 1: was really small and delivered it beautifully. The amount of
Speaker 1: times I'll run into my wife and be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: why are you crying, She's like, never mind, and you
Speaker 1: know it's because she's not sure if there's a cat
Speaker 1: heaven something ridiculous like that. Um. At seventy one, Sarah
Speaker 1: bumps into Colonel Doctor and uh, I just was exciting
Speaker 1: because you know, Colonel Doctor didn't always get a lot
Speaker 1: of foreground time, but he got a little foreground moment
Speaker 1: Coleman's Law. I didn't. I didn't even see that. That
Speaker 1: went completely over my head. I missed that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: even in the scrub's WICKI uh, and I love about
Speaker 1: We call him Colonel Doctor because that's what we thought
Speaker 1: his name was, but because it's eventually revealed that his
Speaker 1: name is coleman Slaw um, it says in the Scrubs
Speaker 1: Wicky like Sarah bumps into Coleman's Law, the Scrubs Wicky
Speaker 1: the Scrubs Wiki is so is so accurate that they
Speaker 1: call Colonel Dr Coleman. That's awesome. The patient in bed
Speaker 1: is Richard Wells. Yes, very he was our best first
Speaker 1: a D first a D and U p M. Also
Speaker 1: he went on to be r U p M later
Speaker 1: on when Scott Harris and Franklin got better to should say,
Speaker 1: for those of you don't know, A first a D
Speaker 1: first assistant director is the man or woman who was
Speaker 1: sort of running the set making sort of the one
Speaker 1: calling out saying, okay, here we go, we gotta move.
Speaker 1: Really you think about in theater like the stage manager
Speaker 1: but keeping everyone moving along uh and uh and sort
Speaker 1: of the team leader. So the director can ideally focus
Speaker 1: on the creative aspects of things. Well, the first idea
Speaker 1: is usually the bad guy. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1: The first idea is the one that you come to
Speaker 1: with all the problems you don't necessarily, Yes, well, Richard
Speaker 1: Wells was so great at his job and one of
Speaker 1: the best first A D s I've ever worked with.
Speaker 1: And um, and I forgot that he did a cameo
Speaker 1: and here he is as as one of my patients
Speaker 1: that finally finally says he'll he'll go the medical routes
Speaker 1: solely because the janitor has told him so at the
Speaker 1: end of the episode. Also also, Richard Wells directed a
Speaker 1: few episodes of Scrubs. Also uh there, he did a
Speaker 1: lot on the show. He wasn't just the A D
Speaker 1: when he came. I was bummed though, when he when
Speaker 1: he decided to become a u p M and he
Speaker 1: was no longer on set, because can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question? What is the u p M? The u
Speaker 1: p M is a production manager unit production manager, handling
Speaker 1: the organization of everything up. If you need a crane,
Speaker 1: the u p M is the one often calling the
Speaker 1: rental house and saying, we need a crane on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Who's bringing it? Timmy and John the line producer kind
Speaker 1: of underneath the line producer, organizing anything and everything that
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of of a production. Scott, you
Speaker 1: you switched to eating, I see, well when I switched
Speaker 1: to my damn things running out of batteries and I
Speaker 1: can't hear a thing now, But yes, it's my anniversary.
Speaker 1: So my wife made me these things when I got
Speaker 1: to eat him before I come out of my closet,
Speaker 1: unless he's gonna say, like, why didn't you eat the
Speaker 1: cookie I made you? How many? Thanks so much? Years years? Wow? Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: And I was excited. You know. I thought I could
Speaker 1: just listen to your explanation of line producer versus U
Speaker 1: p M and no one would notice. But I forgot that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone tuned out when I started describing a
Speaker 1: U p M. All right, listen, we did it as
Speaker 1: uh as Howard Stern says, we've said it all Um,
Speaker 1: this has been really fun, Scott, did you have a
Speaker 1: good time. I loved being here. I love seeing your faces.
Speaker 1: You know, we haven't we haven't had the chance to
Speaker 1: see too many people recently, so it meant a lot
Speaker 1: to me. And it's uh, it's meant a lot to
Speaker 1: me to be a part of this have been a
Speaker 1: part of this show. I look back finally on it
Speaker 1: and consider both of you good friends of mine. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on. Well, we miss you, dude.
Speaker 1: I gotta thank you. Yeah, I miss you, man, I
Speaker 1: I uh, I gotta tell you, you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about it all the time. I ran in the chip
Speaker 1: vote voting uh chipper, yeah and uh. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta we gotta get together again. And
Speaker 1: this was what I thought this was back when we
Speaker 1: thought this pandemic would last about a month and a half.
Speaker 1: And it's uh. You know, I I'd love to get
Speaker 1: out and play golf with you again once this is
Speaker 1: all said and done. Man, we'll find the time and
Speaker 1: I'd love to watch you defeat Bill and tennis if possible, Well,
Speaker 1: if we'll find out when he's injured, and then we'll
Speaker 1: go out and play because I can't because I can't
Speaker 1: beat Bill in any sports. I I often try and
Speaker 1: find people that can beat him so I can just watch.
Speaker 1: I'm game. Hey, you know I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you remember this before we go.
Speaker 1: You know, Donald and I have had the chance to
Speaker 1: work together, not just on on a bunch of things,
Speaker 1: but you and I aside from Scrubs, and this is
Speaker 1: something I regret very much after doing. I don't know, however,
Speaker 1: meant two or three episodes in the first season, you
Speaker 1: wrote a short film about robots. May probably I love
Speaker 1: robots and you sent me the script and I was
Speaker 1: busy doing something else, so I couldn't do it. But
Speaker 1: I've always regretted not being able to work with you
Speaker 1: as a director on something you wrote, and that was
Speaker 1: That's something that's still something I look back on. I
Speaker 1: totally remember it. It was I can't remember that. I
Speaker 1: I vaguely remember it too. I was trying to to
Speaker 1: start directing things because I had gone to some school
Speaker 1: and I was and I was doing scrubs and it
Speaker 1: was so amazing. But of course in my mind as
Speaker 1: a as a young go getter, was thinking, I gotta
Speaker 1: start making stuff. And I wrote that a wacky short,
Speaker 1: and I asked you to be in it. But thank
Speaker 1: you for almost saying yes. Yeah. I absolutely would have
Speaker 1: said yes if I wasn't able to, but I, um, look,
Speaker 1: I love both you guys and and will hopefully work
Speaker 1: with you, uh until we die on different things. I
Speaker 1: made a really cool short film recently, Scott that you
Speaker 1: should check out. It's called In the Time It Takes
Speaker 1: to Get There, And I guess I've taken this opportunity
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to that short, So if
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, check it. Out, it's got the
Speaker 1: time it takes to get there. Yeah, it's got a
Speaker 1: Alicia Silverstone, Donald's old co star, and it's got Florence Pugh,
Speaker 1: the very exciting young actress Oscar nominee, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: really good and it's on YouTube and you can go
Speaker 1: watch it. It was Adobe had this contest where people
Speaker 1: college kids could design a movie poster, and the winning
Speaker 1: movie poster design using photoshop. The prize was that I
Speaker 1: would write and direct a short film inspired by the
Speaker 1: movie poster. Oh yes, you know, I saw an article
Speaker 1: about that. Anytime I see your guys names in the
Speaker 1: in any sort of press, I check it out. And
Speaker 1: I saw an article about this, so I will definitely
Speaker 1: check check it out. I recently want a webby for
Speaker 1: it um which is a which is a cool web award.
Speaker 1: But check it out. Nobody cares. Oh my god, everybody
Speaker 1: could see Donald's face when he says that right now
Speaker 1: with his hands on his head. I wish everyone could
Speaker 1: see my face right now, because I'm successfully need to
Speaker 1: feel sad. You're not, but you look like you're sitting
Speaker 1: underneath the way. I want you to know that I
Speaker 1: knew everybody listening would be like, oh, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for him to say nobody cares Sean. I'm the only
Speaker 1: one and you've said it multiple times, Donald has I'm
Speaker 1: the only one who never said those nobody cares Zach.
Speaker 1: But the problem is you said them to begin with,
Speaker 1: and not a day goes by where someone either personally
Speaker 1: or on social media doesn't comment or say nobody. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could say a happy birthday to my lovely wife
Speaker 1: of thirteen years or happy anniversary of thirteen years, and
Speaker 1: I'll get six nobody cares Sean's well, and it makes
Speaker 1: me equally happy and fucking I rate all right, I
Speaker 1: get it, man. Well listen, we we we got bills
Speaker 1: saying five six seventy on this podcast and I post
Speaker 1: something on on Instagram and every other comment is five
Speaker 1: s eight. Well, I mean you were You texted me
Speaker 1: are you ready to come on? And I think I
Speaker 1: just wrote back five six seven eight and your response
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, okay, we get it. Listen, guys, you've
Speaker 1: gone an hour and a half. Uh, this has been amazing.
Speaker 1: We love the fans, Thank you for listening. We hope
Speaker 1: we're making you laugh a little in these crazy times.
Speaker 1: That's our hope you can email questions to scrubs I
Speaker 1: heart at gmail dot com. Please follow Donald on Instagram.
Speaker 1: He's very envious of the amount of followers I have. Dude,
Speaker 1: you have like one million, one point three million. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, I have six hundred thousand and two. Well,
Speaker 1: listen to Scott. I follow you on Instagram. But it's
Speaker 1: you can follow Scott fully two and look at how
Speaker 1: handsome he is and and that's it. We love you, Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. By j Sees bories about
Speaker 1: sure we made about a bunch of docs and nurses
Speaker 1: and the janitor who loved me. Here I said, here's
Speaker 1: the stories netee should know. So gather around you. Here
Speaker 1: are gather around you, here are expect me watch your
Speaker 1: winds and time. Mm hmmm