Speaker 1: It's Memorial Day. We're recording this today, Memorial Day. We
Speaker 1: should be at a barbecue together. Yeah, we should be
Speaker 1: eating ribs. We should be Wait, are you really trying wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me get this straight going. Are you
Speaker 1: really trying not to eat meat nowadays? I am a pescetarian.
Speaker 1: I'm trying that out. When did you become a pesctarian?
Speaker 1: I watched this documentary that really got me inspired about
Speaker 1: stopping eating animals besides fish. You sound like my dad.
Speaker 1: My dad is the same way right now. The documentary
Speaker 1: was it's called the Game Changers. Is that what it's called? Yes,
Speaker 1: game changers. So, but I've never done anything. I love burgers,
Speaker 1: I love I love all this shit. We all have
Speaker 1: eaten our whole lives. But we have all this time
Speaker 1: on our hands. Right, it's like an experimentation time on
Speaker 1: every front, right, Like you can experiment with you know,
Speaker 1: I've been experimenting with all sorts of things in my life.
Speaker 1: Is I'm sure a lot of people have. And one
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well let me just try this this
Speaker 1: during this time to only be a fish sheeter and
Speaker 1: I do feel better, I do feel healthier. Well that's great,
Speaker 1: but I know you're I know you're very meat passionate. Donald.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to stay away from the red meat.
Speaker 1: That's the hardest thing to stay away from. It's so tasty.
Speaker 1: So I've been trying to figure out different ways to
Speaker 1: cook a chicken, and I've been doing that a lot lately.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right. I do agree that too much
Speaker 1: meat is bad for you, obviously, because you know, cholesterol
Speaker 1: says something about that, blood pressure said something about that,
Speaker 1: heart disease, colorectal cancer says a lot about that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And that's when you eat too
Speaker 1: much red and meat, usually or processed foods. I'm having
Speaker 1: a hard time getting off of all of that stuff though.
Speaker 1: That's the problem I ad. I'm gonna tell you last
Speaker 1: night we had a fake burger. You had Beyond Burger.
Speaker 1: It wasn't one of the fancy ones Beyond. It wasn't
Speaker 1: beyond her Impossible. It was the only two names I know,
Speaker 1: and we just got it at a supermarket. It was
Speaker 1: a nice a nice brand. I forgot the brand, but
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I mean, once you put cheese on
Speaker 1: it and all the fixings and your spices, it's great,
Speaker 1: but once you put the cheese on it, you're no
Speaker 1: longer Presbyterian. Whatever it is that you're Pstarian. That's yeah.
Speaker 1: I can eat cheese. I'm just not eaven. I'm not
Speaker 1: eating meat. I'm not eating um. I'm not eating any
Speaker 1: form of meat other than fish. All right, we should
Speaker 1: we sing. You don't seem happy. I want you to
Speaker 1: get happy. You seem very happy. You can't sing unless
Speaker 1: you're happy. Donald, hold on, hold on, hold on you
Speaker 1: just you have a furrowed brow. I am very happy.
Speaker 1: First of all. Well, okay, well, let's let me see it.
Speaker 1: We're about to bring on Randall Winston, one of the
Speaker 1: most exciting people. I'm really excited, but I don't want
Speaker 1: him to see you. Better turn that motherfucking bearded frown
Speaker 1: upside down. I'm telling you something right now. Randall Winston
Speaker 1: is responsible for some of the most happiest moments of
Speaker 1: my life. So I can't wait to have him on. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then count these motherfuckers in six seven eight more stories
Speaker 1: about show we made about a bunch of docs and
Speaker 1: nurses said, he stead around you here, yead around you here,
Speaker 1: stand there he is? Why is he wearing like a
Speaker 1: gaming headset. That's the only hands that I can find.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're so nor You can play an
Speaker 1: Xbox later, buddy. We did we interrupt you from Call
Speaker 1: of duty? Or are you flying a chopper? Are you
Speaker 1: flying a chopper anytime soon? Oh my god, we're so
Speaker 1: excited to have you on the show. Yeah, we hear
Speaker 1: you just fly? Are you awesome? Yes? These are This
Speaker 1: is my son's gaming headset. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be I wish the audience could see. Randall is
Speaker 1: wearing a gaming headset. But if you don't play games,
Speaker 1: picture a helicopter headset, right, And he's in his beautiful
Speaker 1: garden and he's wearing his kids gaming and sets. Literally
Speaker 1: is it? Literally? Is a game? Lights up? I love it?
Speaker 1: I love it. How are you, man? How are you, Randy?
Speaker 1: I am fantastic. I mean, all things considered, I'm great.
Speaker 1: You know, congratulations on your pickup. Yes we did. We
Speaker 1: didn't get picked up, Randall, But don't worry about I
Speaker 1: didn't know you didn't get picked up. I'm sorry. It's
Speaker 1: all good. ABC decided not to go further with the mergence,
Speaker 1: but better news. ABC decided to go further with Mixed Dish,
Speaker 1: which is Randall's show. Now, let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: Randall your executive producer on the show. Now that is correct.
Speaker 1: Look at you man started at Randall. We gotta go
Speaker 1: back because Randall's career is on fay Go. And I
Speaker 1: think if for people that want to go into Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Randall is a really exciting case of someone that's on
Speaker 1: Fuego right now. Well, not only is it Fuego. I
Speaker 1: remember a video. I don't know how I saw this video,
Speaker 1: but it was a video of you pretty much manifesting
Speaker 1: your destiny, you know what I mean, saying this is
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I want to move to Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I want to be I want to be a big
Speaker 1: time producer. And you know, and you're very young in
Speaker 1: this video too. I don't know how I saw this video.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you starting it was. It was
Speaker 1: posted by a friend of mine. It was we were
Speaker 1: like it was our twenty first birthday or something like that.
Speaker 1: This is a girl who I met on the journey
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. We met at a rest stop in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and became life friends. Were on our way to
Speaker 1: come find our dreams and uh and she was very
Speaker 1: into documenting everything, and Donald, I can't belave you saw that.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Donald and I are very into well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Donald, I think you are. I'm very
Speaker 1: pro right now manifesting your shit and making everything happen.
Speaker 1: My friend, our friend, Amanda is missed like whiteboard and
Speaker 1: writing everything down. And actually I became friendly with John
Speaker 1: Legend's manager. I think I've told you this story Donald,
Speaker 1: who said that everything that John Legend has accomplished they
Speaker 1: put on a whiteboard when they were kids, like at
Speaker 1: a college, and they were like writing down, like they
Speaker 1: were laughing, like I don't know this many Grammys and
Speaker 1: cover of Time magazine and they were just like cracking
Speaker 1: each other up. And She's like, every single thing we
Speaker 1: put on that whiteboard happened. Yeah, John Legend got a egot.
Speaker 1: He's got well, Randall's gonna get a fucking egot, especially
Speaker 1: for his acting skills. Oh boy, here we go. No,
Speaker 1: we had to get into it because Donald called me
Speaker 1: out to Randall saying that I dissed his work as
Speaker 1: death in the show, and Randall texted me very upset
Speaker 1: about death. His work is death to being criticized. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I played the part that was required of
Speaker 1: death and um, I also you know death is not
Speaker 1: the only role that they played on Scrubs. You know.
Speaker 1: You also, well, we haven't gotten to the to the
Speaker 1: security guard yet. We he hasn't been introduced yet. The
Speaker 1: hook the hook had security. Oh I forgot that you
Speaker 1: were the hook handed security Leonard, who had Leonard? Leonard,
Speaker 1: who had tens of fans? Randall, how many episodes did
Speaker 1: Leonard do? Do you think? I don't know exactly how
Speaker 1: many episodes he did, but I will tell you this,
Speaker 1: all fans that wrote to me, so many people from
Speaker 1: Men's prison got some sort of treat assigned script or
Speaker 1: something from Scrubs. So you are you aren't able to
Speaker 1: You aren't able? You were able to do it and
Speaker 1: not get carpet tunnel, is what you're saying, because there's
Speaker 1: only like tens of them. Exactly, would you really give
Speaker 1: fan mail? Yeah? Yeah, I got like Leonard, not a
Speaker 1: not a lot, but we got more fan mail Leonard
Speaker 1: or death Leonard for sure. All right, let's go back
Speaker 1: to the beginning. Yes, let's start at the very beginning.
Speaker 1: I tried to do that with you manifesting your destiny
Speaker 1: but at some point things changed for you, Like you
Speaker 1: lived in New York for a little bit and then
Speaker 1: you moved to Los Angeles. Can you just tell us
Speaker 1: how it all started and how you got connected with Bill,
Speaker 1: and how this became and how this all trans send
Speaker 1: it into scrubs. Yeah, the truth is Bill and I
Speaker 1: met socially first. As a better of fact, on scrubs.
Speaker 1: We kept a graduation photo in Turk and JD's apartment
Speaker 1: and told everybody that was our graduation picture. But we
Speaker 1: really we we met on the basketball court. I had,
Speaker 1: I had an old so I had. I had driven
Speaker 1: out from the Midwest, you know, I trying to try
Speaker 1: to find my dream, got to Los Angeles, snuck onto
Speaker 1: all the lots in town, got myself a job, and
Speaker 1: I started creating my circle. You know, your chosen family,
Speaker 1: your LA family, and a guy who was my best
Speaker 1: friend who I lived with, a guy named Greg Malins
Speaker 1: who went on to run friends and how I met
Speaker 1: your mother and a bunch of other stuff. He and
Speaker 1: Bill had this Uh played in this Saturday game and
Speaker 1: invited me to play a few times. And that's how
Speaker 1: that was how I originally met met Bill. I went
Speaker 1: from working for a guy named Gary Dave Goldberg. That
Speaker 1: was my very first job. He's the guy who created
Speaker 1: Family Ties. Yeah. He was amazing. He was an amazing
Speaker 1: mentor and he had taken Bill under his wing. So
Speaker 1: so Gary is in some ways the reason that we
Speaker 1: started working together. And the first show we did together
Speaker 1: was a show called Champs. That was the first show
Speaker 1: we did together and Kevin Neelan was in it and
Speaker 1: it was it was DreamWorks very first TV show. So
Speaker 1: that kind of okay, just to so Kevin Neelan, who
Speaker 1: Zach remembers being at the first party we ever had
Speaker 1: scrubs upfront parties. Yeah, that's why Kevin Neelan was there, Zach.
Speaker 1: He wasn't there because he was a fan of the show.
Speaker 1: He was there because he worked with Bill and Random. Okay,
Speaker 1: well he may have been a coincidence, but okay, I'll
Speaker 1: hear you. Okay, Randall VvE Froze are you still there?
Speaker 1: And that was when we lost Random? Oh god, what
Speaker 1: are you drinking there? Mimos little Mimosa. Memorial Day? Yeah, buddy,
Speaker 1: I think about Memorial Day is it's just another weekday
Speaker 1: that you can rationalize. It's okay to drink early. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in this day and age, it doesn't feel any different.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend was like, it's Memorial Day. I'm like, how
Speaker 1: is that going to be different from any other day
Speaker 1: that we're living in hibernation? Right now, we can drink it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The kids don't have to get on zoom today. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get you have kids. They don't have to get
Speaker 1: on their zoom things. But but today is a it's
Speaker 1: a day where you know. My wife looked at me,
Speaker 1: it was like, you're drinking already, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's it's a Memorial day. Yeah, it's a Memorial Day.
Speaker 1: So did she then join you? No? She did not.
Speaker 1: She was like, you're an alcoholic. I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: be like, baby, it's a Memorial Day. And on that note,
Speaker 1: I'm going upstairs to do my podcast. Okay. Randall says
Speaker 1: he's resetting the WiFi. Oh god, that's that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: You know, we lost all the momentum of blowing this
Speaker 1: guy up. We're gonna have to regenerate it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to regenerate it. We're gonna have to regenerate our
Speaker 1: Randall blow up. He said, fucking spectrum. I just had
Speaker 1: my dad switch off of Spectrum for the same reason
Speaker 1: that shit is DoD Truck is bad. Dan, you don't
Speaker 1: support No, guys, I want you to listen. This is
Speaker 1: a very very technical man here and he's saying fuck Spectrum.
Speaker 1: So if you're choosing a provider, listen to Dan. The
Speaker 1: only way that I found that you get good internet
Speaker 1: service is if you just switched from provider to provider
Speaker 1: every year or so. Because they don't reward loyalty. There's
Speaker 1: no like your bill has reduced your services better. It
Speaker 1: just gets worse and worse and worse, and they want
Speaker 1: to keep getting new customers. So I have gigabit Internet
Speaker 1: a thousand megabytes up and down for seventy five bucks
Speaker 1: a month, which is the cheapest Internet I've ever had.
Speaker 1: And it's just because what are you using now? Dan?
Speaker 1: And all right, well, guys, you're hearing any year first
Speaker 1: that Dan really recommends AT and T. It's really about
Speaker 1: you can work the companies against each other if you're
Speaker 1: constantly quitting one and saying no, fuck off, you suck,
Speaker 1: and then they give you a better rate. So if
Speaker 1: you have the time, which you do now, you two
Speaker 1: can have fancy fast Internet like Dan Randall, welcome back
Speaker 1: the middle of blowing you up, and then you had
Speaker 1: to do a Wi Fi problem. All right, so let's
Speaker 1: get back into it. So you let's just jump to
Speaker 1: in the spirit of time, let's just keep this moving.
Speaker 1: You start work on Spin City with Bill and you
Speaker 1: hit it off. You become besties. You're partying around the city.
Speaker 1: Your young men in Manhattan go, how did you get
Speaker 1: from LA to Manhattan? How did that happen? Well, we're
Speaker 1: playing Donald no doubt man, the fight. If I could
Speaker 1: reach through this right now, Uh, you know what, it
Speaker 1: goes back to basketball. We came off the basketball court
Speaker 1: one night playing and uh, Gary and Bill pulled me
Speaker 1: aside and they said, you know, we just wrote this pilot.
Speaker 1: We send it to h We sent it to Michael J.
Speaker 1: Fox and they said, there's a character. The Mayor is
Speaker 1: named after you. I think your mother would be very proud.
Speaker 1: Had Mayor Randall Winston and ye By the Great Barry
Speaker 1: Boss work and with the show got We did the
Speaker 1: pilot in LA, but Michael was living in New York
Speaker 1: and said he would only do this series if we
Speaker 1: took it to New York. So that was the opportunity
Speaker 1: of a lifetime, you know, changed my life. I got
Speaker 1: the chance to to go to New York. Gary took
Speaker 1: a select group of people and uh, Donald, you know Sebastians.
Speaker 1: Do you guys know Sebastian Jan's we moved. We all
Speaker 1: went to New York with all excitement, like nobody was
Speaker 1: over anything. Everybody just was into going to the city.
Speaker 1: You were, I was. I think I was twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I think I turned thirty that year of But Bill was.
Speaker 1: Bill's a like a year younger than me, and um,
Speaker 1: he had like the first American expressed black card. And
Speaker 1: he would say, you know, Randall, go out and find
Speaker 1: us an after hours every Friday. So there'd be lines
Speaker 1: at these after ours clubs and they're like, you know, absolutely,
Speaker 1: we don't have any room. I'd be like, you got
Speaker 1: room now, motherfucker. Now I'd say, I'd say, I need
Speaker 1: two cases of champagne and a private room. And that
Speaker 1: was just the beginning. Right now, I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 1: Some of my favorite moments, some of the best moments
Speaker 1: of my life I've shared with you. Ran. You have
Speaker 1: been present at some of the most special moments, some
Speaker 1: of the most wildest moments. Some of the craziest moments
Speaker 1: of my life have been with you there. I love
Speaker 1: that everything, everything from partying in Vegas to marrying him
Speaker 1: and his wife and everything in between. Randall has been there.
Speaker 1: He has been there. How many people have you married, Randall? Uh? Seven?
Speaker 1: Teen successful couples? Donald? What? I what I say? I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta be serious, because everybody I marry stays together? Right?
Speaker 1: How many? How many people have gotten divorced? Zero? You
Speaker 1: got a good streak. I don't want people messing my
Speaker 1: streak up. Now, now, Randall, if I'm listening to this,
Speaker 1: I was preparing for this, and I thought, if I'm
Speaker 1: listening to this, and I'm interested in production, but I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about it. I see in the credits
Speaker 1: all the time a line producer, but I see exact producer,
Speaker 1: I see associate producer. I see all these titles. Could
Speaker 1: you explain to people that I have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the business what a line producer does? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it is. It's true that the TV credits are lousy
Speaker 1: with producers, and usually if the credit is line producer
Speaker 1: or produced by that credit is reserved for the person
Speaker 1: who is essentially responsible for keeping the train running on time,
Speaker 1: making sure that you've got the right crew people in
Speaker 1: the right place, making sure that the show is on budget,
Speaker 1: that it is getting delivered on time, not just within
Speaker 1: the time constraits of your time slot, but delivered the
Speaker 1: day that it's supposed to be delivered, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of soup to nuts. It starts with the prep which
Speaker 1: is as it sounds up, preparing on the show. When
Speaker 1: you first get a little bit information about the about
Speaker 1: the series and each episode, you know, you start to
Speaker 1: break it down with your team. You know, how many
Speaker 1: actors are we going to need, do we need to
Speaker 1: build sense? Are we going out anywhere? And what is
Speaker 1: it going to take? And I think that job at
Speaker 1: its best is a negotiator and a translator. You know,
Speaker 1: that's somebody who you know, oftentimes it was between I'm
Speaker 1: working between Bill on scrubs, between Bill who created the show,
Speaker 1: and the studio and the network, so that everybody's getting
Speaker 1: what they need and even when they're not speaking the
Speaker 1: same language, or or figure out what the best thing
Speaker 1: to accomplish what's in the script is can be accomplished
Speaker 1: within the box that's been built. Yeah, and the line
Speaker 1: bruisers also if you think about it the keeper of
Speaker 1: the purse in a sense that when you're directing or
Speaker 1: show running, you will often think, Oh, I think we
Speaker 1: should I wrote this big scene. It would be great
Speaker 1: to shoot it in this amazing restaurant. And then I
Speaker 1: want to get a crane outside that's gonna come down here,
Speaker 1: and then it would be cool if it was raining outside.
Speaker 1: This is when the line producer starts to sweat, when
Speaker 1: we start to go, wait, do we need rain? Right?
Speaker 1: Need rain? Every time? Every time Zach got a directing assignment,
Speaker 1: before there was even a script, come to need a crane? Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I don't even know what the fucking script says,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need a big ass crane. But so
Speaker 1: it's the line producer's job, almost like a parent, to
Speaker 1: be like, look us a dollar and you got your
Speaker 1: candy bar. You should have saved it, and you could
Speaker 1: have got an ice cream, yes, right, you could have.
Speaker 1: You could have one big thing or two little things,
Speaker 1: right right. And a lot of times it's negotiation, like like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know they're keeping her of the money. But in
Speaker 1: terms of money, it's not just the camera gear, but
Speaker 1: how many crew, how many extras. Are you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to afford are you gonna be able to do
Speaker 1: any overtime? All of that as off and the relationship
Speaker 1: I often have of the line producers, they see it.
Speaker 1: Think of it like a Chinese food menu, in that
Speaker 1: you're you're choosing from a myriad of things that you
Speaker 1: can have, but you can't exceed that budget. So if
Speaker 1: you do want a big ass crane, then maybe you
Speaker 1: can't have as many background at the wedding. If it's
Speaker 1: so funny that you say that, I oftentimes it crossed
Speaker 1: my career have literally made a Chinese menu for directors
Speaker 1: and again producers, you know, because you inevitably get to
Speaker 1: a point and Bill and I used to have, you
Speaker 1: know something back then it was it was like the
Speaker 1: thousand dollars deal, which was once we had locked the budget,
Speaker 1: he was not allowed to bring me any problems that
Speaker 1: cost more than a thousand dollars. Like I could figure
Speaker 1: it out, you know, if it was a thousand or under,
Speaker 1: but you know, you can't be adding stuff once where
Speaker 1: once we started rolling now on, back in the day,
Speaker 1: we would do a lot of overtime, which which now
Speaker 1: people don't really do anymore, right, I mean, on your
Speaker 1: jobs now, are people pretty much keeping it to twelve
Speaker 1: hours these days? It depends, really, I mean for the
Speaker 1: for the most part, yes, but a lot has changed.
Speaker 1: You know, we did for a big chunk of that show,
Speaker 1: our true single camera show, which is almost all shows
Speaker 1: have more than one camera rolling at a time now,
Speaker 1: so you can get more work done within the hours
Speaker 1: you can get you know, for those who do people
Speaker 1: know that between single and multi like usually on the
Speaker 1: single camera show, you're getting one angle at a time,
Speaker 1: shooting one actors close up and then you turn around
Speaker 1: and get the other actor. And the more actors in
Speaker 1: a scene, you know, the more times you're turning, And
Speaker 1: if you have multiple cameras, then you can get multiple shots.
Speaker 1: But on a show like Mixed Dish, you know, or
Speaker 1: you know, American Housewife or any show that's kind of
Speaker 1: a family, you know, family shows opposed to community, you're
Speaker 1: up against kid hours. So those shows in particular are
Speaker 1: held to a pricter standard hours. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I love it when kids are on the
Speaker 1: show now and you're working the show because you're not
Speaker 1: going past twelve hours, dude, you might not even do
Speaker 1: eight hours that day, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 1: love it. I did so, I did Emergence this uh
Speaker 1: this last year didn't get picked up ABC. Thank you,
Speaker 1: but you were by the way, you were great in
Speaker 1: that show. I think we should pour some out for
Speaker 1: emergence of rest in Piece of Emergence. But I remember
Speaker 1: we had two very young ladies on the show, and
Speaker 1: they were in school, and once they showed up to set,
Speaker 1: we had the clock was ticking. We had eight hours
Speaker 1: to get them done or they would they turned into
Speaker 1: a pumpkin and so and so. I used to love that.
Speaker 1: It would be like the kids work in the day.
Speaker 1: They'd be like yeah, and I'd be like, great, that
Speaker 1: means I'm done before you know, I'm done before the
Speaker 1: sun goes down. It's when the kids weren't working that
Speaker 1: you were like, oh my god, I'm gonna be here forever. Right,
Speaker 1: kids on there, you can make it right right. You'd
Speaker 1: be like, I can make that eight o'clock movie tonight.
Speaker 1: Randall Um, you and I always got along so well.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the relationship between a director and a
Speaker 1: line producer could be contentious because the director feels like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're taking away you're not you're not working with me,
Speaker 1: you're not making it, you're not helping me realize all
Speaker 1: the things I want to do. Of course, the lion
Speaker 1: producer has a stressful job. You're like, dude, you're killing me.
Speaker 1: You're so over budget. What the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But but when when the two are friends and they
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, let's work it out, then then then
Speaker 1: it never gets contentious. But of course sometimes with when
Speaker 1: people don't get along the line producer and the director
Speaker 1: don't always like each other. Well, I think that it
Speaker 1: has been to the great benefit of my career in general.
Speaker 1: Part of it is just I think the way that
Speaker 1: I like to work is that the goal is to
Speaker 1: be symbiotic. Like you know, when people think that it's contentious,
Speaker 1: it is contentious, but you know, we're all rowing in
Speaker 1: the same direction. You want, you want a great show.
Speaker 1: You want and comedy is in particular, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I think about the episode were talking about today, but
Speaker 1: your episode when you when you go into the puddle
Speaker 1: and you see do you say sea monster? It was
Speaker 1: not a sea monster, rand that a man see named Julian. Julian.
Speaker 1: I love that you said ce monster. What was the
Speaker 1: sea monster's name. So that's a perfect example of that
Speaker 1: script had so much in it, um but that was
Speaker 1: the biggest joke in the show. And you know, we
Speaker 1: had to call the city and get digg alert and
Speaker 1: it was the first time I got to use a
Speaker 1: jackhammeron We're like digging holes in the parking Latin creating
Speaker 1: a swimming pool that we were gonna have to fill in.
Speaker 1: But but the question was, you know, is this one
Speaker 1: of the funniest things in the script. What what are
Speaker 1: we what are we going to give up or combined
Speaker 1: so that we can keep that and that trusting relationship,
Speaker 1: you know, with with with the actor, with the director,
Speaker 1: with the writers, you know, builds that thing that you're
Speaker 1: talking and ron and Ronald you're the kind of person
Speaker 1: that was like so on board. You'd be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we have to figure out we have to
Speaker 1: figure out a way. I know, yeah, because I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that gag, which involved building two different small
Speaker 1: swimming pools to code because the city was not going
Speaker 1: to let anyone not do it to code, was one
Speaker 1: of the most expensive gags and scrubs history, as I recall,
Speaker 1: Yes it was, Yes, it was very expensive. But that
Speaker 1: you're that's you're right, Zach. That's a very important point.
Speaker 1: If you have a line producer who's game, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I can figure this out. If you work with me,
Speaker 1: we can figure this out, you're gonna get some of
Speaker 1: the best stuff. Of course, it was so weird about
Speaker 1: Randall was he wasn't you know some of these guys
Speaker 1: and gals are sitting in office and they're rolling your
Speaker 1: eyes when you walk in. Randon was out there with
Speaker 1: the jackhammer, being like, I can't believe we're building the day.
Speaker 1: Totally true. All right, should we get into the episode.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the episode. So Randall, this one is supersized.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Very rare. Most episodes thus far
Speaker 1: in the show have been twenty two minutes without commercials.
Speaker 1: This one is twenty eight, which is a big leap
Speaker 1: to supersize. Right, It was a big It was a
Speaker 1: big issue at the time, this show with the pizza
Speaker 1: clock as we as we called it. But the network
Speaker 1: was very contemptous about this episode and they did not
Speaker 1: rerun it again in in uh certainly not that season,
Speaker 1: and I don't think for years because being supersized and
Speaker 1: it's a It's a very thoughtful episode, you know, very
Speaker 1: emotional goes inside where are where the characters are? And
Speaker 1: I think at the time, you know, we were still
Speaker 1: in season one and they wanted it to just to
Speaker 1: be you know, more j D falling. Yeah, right, they
Speaker 1: were like, what are you doing this weird documentary style interludes?
Speaker 1: I mean, where's j D running into a wall? And
Speaker 1: you know, but it's a great episode. I just want
Speaker 1: to say. Um written by Gabrielle Allen and directed by
Speaker 1: Lawrence Trilling, who became one of our favorites early on.
Speaker 1: He then went on to do UM Pushing Daisies and
Speaker 1: Parenthood and I just googled now that he's on Goliath.
Speaker 1: But super talented guy. I think Lawrence Trilling and I
Speaker 1: did Felicity to gain you did you? Did? You? Did?
Speaker 1: Do we ever on Alias? Done? No? I was never
Speaker 1: on Alias. Okay, well he also did Alias, but yeah
Speaker 1: he directed UM, Young Donald phaseon and Felicity. Here's a
Speaker 1: really great guy, really fun, good director, and Gabby gotta
Speaker 1: love her. There's a good team, great team and UM
Speaker 1: and I just thought there's a lot of style of this.
Speaker 1: So so there became this convention a few conventions. There's
Speaker 1: the pizza clock thing if you look down at the
Speaker 1: pizza guys, in case you didn't notice, the idea was
Speaker 1: that it was mimicking a clock. And so as the
Speaker 1: episode is cutting between that one night of Saturn and
Speaker 1: I in bed, and then back to the a few
Speaker 1: weeks that follow us trying to date, whenever, it cuts
Speaker 1: back the pizzas trying to look like a clock from
Speaker 1: that night. So there's that sort of gag, the timeline
Speaker 1: shake up, and then there's these documentary style shaky cam
Speaker 1: grainy film as though we're all being interviewed for a
Speaker 1: psychologists project on why people become doctors? Right, all right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought that was the next episode. But okay, no,
Speaker 1: that's my bed banter, and beyond that's intercutting Sarah and
Speaker 1: I and our big epic fuck fest for lack of
Speaker 1: a better term, I gotta tell you something, man, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't miss that. Let's go back how you said
Speaker 1: the word, and now I'm gonna now we could talk
Speaker 1: about it. I guess I missed those days. I missed
Speaker 1: the days when it was just sex all day, you know,
Speaker 1: before kids, when you could just bone all day then
Speaker 1: go out to dinner that night and then bone some more.
Speaker 1: My wife and I, you know what, we gotta make
Speaker 1: an appointment now and it sucks it in your eye.
Speaker 1: Cow dude, I'll be like, it's you think it's a joke,
Speaker 1: and a lot of stand up comics have made this joke,
Speaker 1: but it's real. You'll be like, how about sex Thursday?
Speaker 1: Can we do Thursday? I'm having my hair done right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no no no. The kids got zoom all day.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be exhausted by eight o'clock. There's no way.
Speaker 1: And Ozark comes on. I gotta watch Ozark. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman is stealing your sex night. Jason
Speaker 1: Bateman is fucking it up for me right now. I
Speaker 1: hear the shows. I hear the show's great, but damn you,
Speaker 1: Jason Bateman. I just wish he would get through the
Speaker 1: show already. I just missed those days. I missed the
Speaker 1: days where it was like and I granted, I love
Speaker 1: my children and and and I love having them in
Speaker 1: my life, but I just missed the days of freaking
Speaker 1: waking up boning, going to Hugo's to get breakfast or brunch, right,
Speaker 1: brunch whatever it is coming back home and being like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Well, we haven't fucked
Speaker 1: in like five hours, we might as well fuck again.
Speaker 1: Perfect Donald, I am sitting outside looking longingly at my
Speaker 1: blackout shutters and how were you to use them so much? More? Right?
Speaker 1: Just like crank it dad, black out the bedroom and
Speaker 1: and do what you gotta do right them days is
Speaker 1: over them? Days? Is you guys are really doing a
Speaker 1: great ad for having children right now? No, you should
Speaker 1: do it. It's great, it's wonderful as you both drink
Speaker 1: your white claw now. Elliott has said in previous episodes
Speaker 1: that she's never had an orgasm, and she said that
Speaker 1: she doesn't like sex. So is j D the first
Speaker 1: person to not only bring her to orgasm but show
Speaker 1: her the wondrous world of epic sex days? I'm sure
Speaker 1: you would like to think so I think. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: not Jad Donald, I'm Zach Braff, but I'm character of
Speaker 1: j D. Probably was good in bed well, you know,
Speaker 1: in the beginning of it all, JD was kind of
Speaker 1: a sucker when he's like he almost let her walk
Speaker 1: out of the house, and she was obviously very much
Speaker 1: into JD. Well, I don't know, dude, I disagree. I
Speaker 1: was watching it with fresh eyes and I was thinking
Speaker 1: I couldn't read where she was was she like hey,
Speaker 1: I should go? And then you know, you know what
Speaker 1: that's like back in the day. I hate that shit.
Speaker 1: I hate that shit. Why to test? Why I gotta
Speaker 1: be tested for? How come you can't just be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe this was a mistake. Was it
Speaker 1: a mistake though? Or did we you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I remember saying to my wife when she was
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, like, you know, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is if this is working out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and her being like, you don't
Speaker 1: you know for a second, this is the best thing
Speaker 1: that's ever happened to you. What do you mean you
Speaker 1: don't know if this is working out? Like that was
Speaker 1: real talk. The fact that Jad almost had her out
Speaker 1: the door before he was before she turned around and
Speaker 1: was like, yo, just say you want me to stay
Speaker 1: and stop being a sucker, stop being a a little
Speaker 1: punk about this. Just say you want me to stay,
Speaker 1: and I'll stay and we can go have sex again.
Speaker 1: And then he's finally like will you stay? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for that though, because I almost will.
Speaker 1: But don't you remember back in the day when you weren't,
Speaker 1: when you weren't in such a long term relationship, When
Speaker 1: something's new and you're kind of insecure about it, You're like,
Speaker 1: did this person have as good, if fun as I did?
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one who put I
Speaker 1: don't want to put my one. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the one who puts myself out there and and
Speaker 1: and gets dissed. Like you're you're You're in a very
Speaker 1: vulnerable state. You're like, I kind of like this person,
Speaker 1: do they like me? You know? Well, Dan Jay, do
Speaker 1: you the character just wasn't he in the friend zone
Speaker 1: a couple episodes before that? Yeah? Yeah they were. They
Speaker 1: were friends zoned. Yeah, like, uh, maybe seven episodes before
Speaker 1: he gets friends zoned and then he um and then
Speaker 1: we gotta go to break. We'll be right back with
Speaker 1: the legendary Randall Winston. Randall Winston is guy. We're very excited.
Speaker 1: We're very excited. Randall's here. We're talking about sex. JD
Speaker 1: and Elliott have an epic epic twenty four hours of
Speaker 1: sex um and it seems that JD has found a
Speaker 1: way to bring Elliott all the way to the Promised Land,
Speaker 1: because she seems to be really enjoying sex. Well, the
Speaker 1: fact that they have it like six or seven times
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. And she even brings up, I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: a vagina transplant. Yeah, she says, she's sending a vagina transport,
Speaker 1: which is a very funny fantasy. Cutting to the guys
Speaker 1: running through the Go Go Go Cook. It's the cooler
Speaker 1: and the cooler. Randall was that they should have done
Speaker 1: the song Vagina in a box. Randall was vagina transplant
Speaker 1: something that anyone was worried about getting through the censors,
Speaker 1: because it seems pretty pretty risque to have a vagina
Speaker 1: in a box. Yes, I remember there being like some conversation,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember whether it was whether it was
Speaker 1: a lot of criminas. But the great thing about Scrubs
Speaker 1: was that there was always something else to point out,
Speaker 1: like you know, another red herring. I was like, we'll
Speaker 1: have agin in the box, but he says dick three
Speaker 1: times two pages later. We'll get rid of that. And
Speaker 1: so part of Randall's job was was being um Bill's
Speaker 1: liaison to the studio. I mean, like, listen, guys, it's
Speaker 1: just one vagina in a box. We're not gonna have
Speaker 1: vaginas in boxes every week. And and the and the
Speaker 1: great thing about about the uh, the working with the person.
Speaker 1: There was a woman I can't remember there was if
Speaker 1: this was Sandy Christmas, it was this Sandy Christmas. It
Speaker 1: was this very sweet woman who used to have these
Speaker 1: conversations with So I get on the phone and she'd
Speaker 1: be like, now, Randall, I back to vagina in the box,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, And then you later say, penis
Speaker 1: you know do we have to have all of that
Speaker 1: in the show. Yeah. And what's funny, the ll often
Speaker 1: give you the laughten give you a sheet of all
Speaker 1: their objections and it's a negotiation, and then even when
Speaker 1: you get it through, they'd be like, Okay, we're fine
Speaker 1: with the vagina in the box, please do not show
Speaker 1: a vagina in a box. Like even shit, You're like, really, guys,
Speaker 1: you had to write that on the paper, like you
Speaker 1: think we were gonna cut two a vagina on for
Speaker 1: NBC in the box. And sometimes they say sometimes they
Speaker 1: say stuff and you're thinking, oh damn, you're weight dirtier
Speaker 1: than I thought. That is not what we meant this
Speaker 1: is a true story. We had to go into VAFCS
Speaker 1: visual effects and adjust donald scrubs in a particular scene
Speaker 1: because they thought we were seeing too much of a
Speaker 1: Bob oh Donald. That is how we do it, Dan,
Speaker 1: how about thus we do it. Let's have some thunders
Speaker 1: to pause, a pause from my junk, and then Dan,
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind put up mmm? That was I
Speaker 1: used to do a looma at the time table reads,
Speaker 1: and most of my yes inspired me to just go hmm.
Speaker 1: Whenever a nurse Roberts couldn't be at the table read,
Speaker 1: Randall would would play her, and his favorite part was
Speaker 1: doing her speaking of speaking of Aloma. Holy cow, she's
Speaker 1: amazing in this episode, very funny. Every one of her
Speaker 1: lines lands hard. You know what I mean? White boys?
Speaker 1: Uh you mean it was a secret. All of that stuff,
Speaker 1: everything that everything that she said in this episode, I
Speaker 1: laughed out loud. Now let's get ridy into it right away,
Speaker 1: you know. Let's you know, the janitor sees Aloma and
Speaker 1: she sees him, and she looks at him like, get
Speaker 1: the funk out of my way, and Randall, Bill is
Speaker 1: still hanging onto his his his dream that the Janitor
Speaker 1: was only seen by JD in season one, and we
Speaker 1: are Donald and I are detectives that are quickly proving
Speaker 1: him wrong in every other episode. Yes, yes, I was.
Speaker 1: I never bought into that he was a figment of
Speaker 1: Jad's imagine it's mister Snupple elephagus. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I remember he had because there's some episodes later.
Speaker 1: I remember an episode I directed where he has a
Speaker 1: group of benchmen played by our Grip team, you know,
Speaker 1: and they survey are all and with him? And isn't
Speaker 1: his his his side? He has two sidekicks, Troy and Randall. Right, yeah, Randall?
Speaker 1: I remember Randall played by Martin, played by Martin Martin,
Speaker 1: who was also in Oz the Great and Powerful with
Speaker 1: Me and who was also in Pirates of the Caribbean. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love that Caribbean. Let's talk about Collico Vision, which
Speaker 1: comes up at seven twenty one. Did you have Collico
Speaker 1: Vision either one of you? I did not. My friend
Speaker 1: had Callico Vision, and I remember Collico Vision being so
Speaker 1: awesome because the video games looked exactly like they looked
Speaker 1: in the arcade. So if you had Donkey Kong, it
Speaker 1: looked like Donkey Kong from the Arcade. I thought that
Speaker 1: was the first and had first. Do you remember that game?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember the Smurf Well, if you
Speaker 1: are interested in video games, please go on. I'm sure
Speaker 1: on YouTube they can play you the theme music from
Speaker 1: Smurfs on Clico Vision. And that jam was fire? Was it?
Speaker 1: La la la la la la la la la la.
Speaker 1: Come on? That was the dope. Shit la la la
Speaker 1: la la la la la la la la. Let me,
Speaker 1: let's put it this way. If jay Z can make
Speaker 1: a song from Hard Knock Life, yes, dude, do that
Speaker 1: again and I'll kick in my b bocks. We got
Speaker 1: a jam half sa hey la la la la la
Speaker 1: la la la la la la la la la la
Speaker 1: la la la la la la la da. And you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to line that up with some delay. But
Speaker 1: we I think it's fire and I think we can
Speaker 1: beat a Hard Knock Life. You you did me that
Speaker 1: donald On set you to do Transformers as a dude.
Speaker 1: Ate Neil Diamond, Neil Diamond singing Transformers. I thought I
Speaker 1: did it already, but if I haven't, if you missed it,
Speaker 1: do it. Transformers more than meets the eye, Keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going, face the battles to destroy the evil forces
Speaker 1: of the Decepticons. But I mean, Neil Diamond's your best impersonation.
Speaker 1: You also do a pretty good uh, I don't know, Well,
Speaker 1: you do a better version of Aaron Neville than I do.
Speaker 1: I mean, here, I minds trash that maybe, yeah, yours
Speaker 1: is way better than mine, way better than mine. There
Speaker 1: you go. That's the extent of our impressions. Collego Vision
Speaker 1: great game system. I felt like a baller because I
Speaker 1: had it, and you know, I remember that control was
Speaker 1: like it was like a long rectangle and then there
Speaker 1: was a circle on the bottom. Yeah. Not to be
Speaker 1: confused within television, which I didn't have, or in television.
Speaker 1: Wow was it in television? It was Colliko Vision start
Speaker 1: with the Atari twenty six hundred. I remember that everybody
Speaker 1: had that. Yeah, and then there was Cliquo Vision. Go ahead, Randy,
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy with the gaming heads that
Speaker 1: you weigh in. But this makes me send one hundred
Speaker 1: years old. I am currently doing a puzzle during COVID
Speaker 1: that is all of the original video games, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's I need that puzzle. We got a van
Speaker 1: Go Starry Night, and we are not even getting anywhere
Speaker 1: near to starting it. But I feel like if it
Speaker 1: was the old game consoles, you haven't had it done already.
Speaker 1: I'm sending to you. There's an alf mentioned in this show,
Speaker 1: loved Alf. I was a huge fan of Alfox. What
Speaker 1: do you doing? Al the puppet from out of space
Speaker 1: who loved to eat cats? I remember being a little
Speaker 1: kid and the trailer teaser for alf came on and
Speaker 1: I remember being a little kid, my first film critic going,
Speaker 1: that looks so stupid. Cut to me loving alf like
Speaker 1: having alf stuffed animals? What was not to love about alf?
Speaker 1: I visited the alpset you did? I remember? Yes? Now?
Speaker 1: Was it raised up so they could have a puppet tier? Yes?
Speaker 1: And it was like it was It wasn't at a
Speaker 1: real stage. It was at a warehouse in Culver City?
Speaker 1: Is I Paul Max Wright, who was who played the father,
Speaker 1: who was an accomplished theater actor and Shakespearean actor and
Speaker 1: genius act all around, fucking hated it. I think that's
Speaker 1: part of the lore is that he absolutely hated doing
Speaker 1: a puppet show. Um, now, did you did you watch
Speaker 1: all the Alps we were religious Elf? Because there's there's
Speaker 1: episodes I met I mean, I'm not ready to do
Speaker 1: the rewatch podcast, but there's a there's a very special
Speaker 1: ALF where I would I remember mostly as crying during
Speaker 1: ALF Alfred to visit the girl in the hospital. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, tonight on a very special alf.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they would do you remember when
Speaker 1: they would like back in the day, for those of
Speaker 1: you who were too young, they when there was a
Speaker 1: sad like on Scrubs. We had sad episodes all the time,
Speaker 1: but on old school sitcoms they would always warn you,
Speaker 1: like tonight on a very special Silver Spoons, the ricker
Speaker 1: will the Ricker will kill a deer. We recommend and
Speaker 1: they would go, we recommend parents watch with their children.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that for sure? But on Scrubs, if
Speaker 1: it was sad, we just would play the theme song
Speaker 1: a little fun. So there was silver Spoons when the
Speaker 1: record killed a deer, there was different strokes. When Dudley
Speaker 1: got molested by the bike shop owner, remember that. I
Speaker 1: do remember that, and everything happened to Dudley or Arnold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know what happened on ALF but
Speaker 1: I don't know if they made the announcement, it must
Speaker 1: have been serious. I don't know special episode of Alf
Speaker 1: Alf learns to touch himself. Oh boy, oh boy, but
Speaker 1: you can't handle it. I used to have an alf
Speaker 1: stuffed animal and uh, oh, never mind. That made it
Speaker 1: sound like I fucked the doll. I didn't. I just
Speaker 1: I just it did sound like you were about to
Speaker 1: say it sounded like you were about to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I sucked the doll. Did Alf have a tail? I
Speaker 1: don't know. No, no, no, he did not. I don't
Speaker 1: think so well. Can you please look up a Alf
Speaker 1: had a tail? Alf did not have a tail. You're
Speaker 1: feeling really confident about that. You didn't see. You didn't
Speaker 1: see Alf's ask that much. Okay, let's talk about how
Speaker 1: well Johnny does in this episode. Yeah, in the monologue,
Speaker 1: the monologue section, everybody's great in the oh, Joel, what
Speaker 1: you look? Your face lit up? Alf does have a tail? Bullshit? Sure, Donald,
Speaker 1: you fucking liar. I just don't remember Alf the long term. Listen.
Speaker 1: It's like a dog's tail, and it only because you
Speaker 1: can see him like he's looking out the window in
Speaker 1: a single shot. Listen, but I want to see if
Speaker 1: the album. I barely remember episodes of Scrubs. How am
Speaker 1: I supposed to remember Alf. Oh, he does have a tail,
Speaker 1: so I have a memory. I think what I was
Speaker 1: trying to say with stuff animals, I used to pull
Speaker 1: Alf's tail through his legs to make it look like
Speaker 1: it was Alb's penis. Oh my gosh, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: Sonny is good in this episode. Yes, he's not only that.
Speaker 1: Before we do that, let's go back a little bit.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Kelso's actual name was Kelso Kevich. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that comes up again. But this is
Speaker 1: the first episode where he introduces his wife's name, Enid, right,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was just very interesting that, you know,
Speaker 1: he changed his name to fit in, to be to
Speaker 1: sound more American, so I said of Kelsanovich, it then
Speaker 1: became Kelso. I think everybody um did, including Donald Fhazon
Speaker 1: and Judy and Sarah. Everybody was great in these monologue sections.
Speaker 1: They were It was kind of a cool. It's funny
Speaker 1: because that documentary style became very common and shows like
Speaker 1: The Office and a Modern Family that we're doing sort
Speaker 1: of the shaky cam documentary style was not a style
Speaker 1: we did on Scrubs. But because of this segment, I
Speaker 1: don't know why the interviewer was so hookey jerky with
Speaker 1: the damn camera. I mean, put the fucking thing on
Speaker 1: a tripod and calm down. But it was the interviewer
Speaker 1: was making like his own shaky cam TV show. But um,
Speaker 1: I thought everyone it seemed like the mandate was that
Speaker 1: they were not going to have cuts in them. They
Speaker 1: would all be long takes and yeah, and I thought
Speaker 1: everyone did a really nice job in those scenes. Do
Speaker 1: you recall it. They prepared us for that, because the
Speaker 1: fact that I knew my lines like that was very
Speaker 1: weird yourself. I'm watching it, I'm like, they're gonna cut soon,
Speaker 1: because there's no way I remember all of this. We
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot, and uh, we knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be one take. If I remember correctly, those
Speaker 1: are half the monologues that we did. I mean, part
Speaker 1: of the reason why the episode is so long is
Speaker 1: because those chunks. And I remember Johnny c I feel
Speaker 1: like he was disappointed because there was another long, uh take.
Speaker 1: You know. So even though this episode is what do
Speaker 1: we say twenty four eight twenty eight, I think the
Speaker 1: editor's cut was closer to forty. Yeah, and there's a
Speaker 1: really cool section later on where Donald and Judy or
Speaker 1: side by side and they're still not cutting, so they
Speaker 1: were able to time out. I don't know, was Judy
Speaker 1: in the room reading with you? Donald, do you remember? No?
Speaker 1: That was They gave us earwigs, I think for that
Speaker 1: because your wig, if for those who don't know, is
Speaker 1: a tinier piece that goes in your ear that you
Speaker 1: that you can't see the camera can't see. I remember
Speaker 1: rehearsing it with the voice track. I think they recorded
Speaker 1: Judy first. I could be wrong, though, I think they
Speaker 1: recorded Judy first and then I went in after her
Speaker 1: to record. The timing of that was perfect because you
Speaker 1: you know, you had to stall, so you were like
Speaker 1: thinking and then you took a sip of your water
Speaker 1: and like it totally looked natural, but it was. It
Speaker 1: was well done by by Larry Chilling trilling Man. That
Speaker 1: was one of the That was one of the highlights
Speaker 1: in my notes that I wrote. You know, this was
Speaker 1: his first episode to direct for us, and we gave
Speaker 1: him a pretty you know, you guys gave him a
Speaker 1: big randall and you and Bill gave him a pretty
Speaker 1: big episode to produce. I wondered if it was ever
Speaker 1: like yo what money do I get to make this
Speaker 1: go easier for me? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm guessing he was told that it was going
Speaker 1: to be a long one because um, right, Randall? Or
Speaker 1: was it was decided after the fact? Um, it was
Speaker 1: decided after the fact. We didn't know it was gonna
Speaker 1: come out, but we knew from timing the table read
Speaker 1: that we were up against it and that we didn't
Speaker 1: want to make cuts in those you know, soliloquy pieces,
Speaker 1: you know, directly to the camera. For some reason, I
Speaker 1: feel like production was there was just a lot of
Speaker 1: talk about the pizza clock, like getting the right angle
Speaker 1: and how much pizza to take out. And you know,
Speaker 1: we were we were in that bedroom for so long,
Speaker 1: which was a tight set. Yeah, and Sarah and I,
Speaker 1: you know, we were friends, m and we really loved
Speaker 1: each other. But that was a very bizarre thing to
Speaker 1: have that much fake sex all over one set for
Speaker 1: many days on end. Well, yeah, not just that you
Speaker 1: guys were very much in each other's face. I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you, you guys made out a lot
Speaker 1: in this episode. Yeah, how awkward was that for you? Um?
Speaker 1: I think it was, you know, you always hear actors
Speaker 1: talking about, Oh, it's you know, it's all very you know, choreographed,
Speaker 1: and it's not weird at all. It is weird. You know,
Speaker 1: there's everyone standing around, you're making out with your good friend. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it was. It was bizarre. I remember
Speaker 1: being because also a lot of most times it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a quick makeout scene. It's a TV show, you know,
Speaker 1: That's that's all it ever is. And this was like,
Speaker 1: you know, wrestling around and groping each other and for days.
Speaker 1: So it was weird face to face and not only
Speaker 1: face to banoca. Donald, you gotta have Banaca. We had
Speaker 1: a boom man named Kevin. Was his last name Rynald
Speaker 1: Do you remember? I can't figure it right now. Kevin
Speaker 1: Tiers also hires the whole crew everybody, so he should
Speaker 1: really know Kevin's last name. Um, but Kevin used to
Speaker 1: see that we all used to have banoca. This is
Speaker 1: like back in the day. Is still that we had
Speaker 1: like spray the aerosol banaca, and uh we made a
Speaker 1: joke like, oh, it'd be great because the boom mike's
Speaker 1: right over your head. We're like, it'd be great if
Speaker 1: there was a boom if there was banoca on the boom,
Speaker 1: because then we can just reach up, pull the boom
Speaker 1: mike down and grab it off. And the next day
Speaker 1: we show up and he had velcrowede a banoca to
Speaker 1: the end of the boom mic not not the mic itself,
Speaker 1: the stick and pole and n Kevin santy, thank you
Speaker 1: and uh and and literally he wasn't just a joke.
Speaker 1: He kept it up there for like months, and whenever
Speaker 1: you need a banocha, you just reach up, grabbed the
Speaker 1: boom pole, pull it off to a spray. They'll grow
Speaker 1: it back and stick it off. I used to go
Speaker 1: crazy with the banoca because I felt like, maybe if
Speaker 1: I spray enough in my mouth, the aarosaw and the
Speaker 1: freaking mint will get me high enough. When your weed
Speaker 1: was wearing all, so Donald, this weed had worn off
Speaker 1: and he was on set too long. He's like, let
Speaker 1: me try and get high on boca. I remember one
Speaker 1: day Randall came into the room. Randall, tell me if
Speaker 1: you remember this, and you were like Donald and we
Speaker 1: were on set, and you were like, Donald, wake up.
Speaker 1: Do I need to splash cold water in your face?
Speaker 1: And something? Wake ass up? Where you hire you something? No? No,
Speaker 1: no no, no, no no no. But in my mind
Speaker 1: I was like, they know, they know, because you were
Speaker 1: taking too long to get to set. No. The only
Speaker 1: time I took a long time to get to set
Speaker 1: was when Grand Theft Auto Vice City came out. And
Speaker 1: I remember one time they were trying to get me
Speaker 1: the set and I was on my way out the
Speaker 1: door and Randall's pushing my door in as I'm pulling
Speaker 1: it and I was like hi, and he was like,
Speaker 1: get up stairs, Randall. You had to be bad coup.
Speaker 1: I had to get up the grip, yeah, grabbing people stem.
Speaker 1: I remember sending a PA to your house one time, Zach.
Speaker 1: Somebody had to climb over the fence to get you
Speaker 1: to like wait. It was a really bad moment. Know
Speaker 1: what happened was the pound. What had happened was the
Speaker 1: power went out. The power went out in my in
Speaker 1: my on my street or my neighborhood, and so the
Speaker 1: alarms didn't go off, and also the phones didn't work,
Speaker 1: and so I woke up to a PA knocking on
Speaker 1: my window, and which is the worst site. If you're
Speaker 1: an accurate it's like the most horrible feeling. And I
Speaker 1: remember getting to set really late, and Bill looked at
Speaker 1: me and he's like, no, no, don't worry, we'll split
Speaker 1: the fifty grand. I think during scrubs I had a
Speaker 1: real moment of peace about producing, which was I gave
Speaker 1: up on the idea of everything being okay for more
Speaker 1: than five minutes at a time, because nothing's ever always okay.
Speaker 1: It's like, and nobody comes to my door to be
Speaker 1: like everything's great. It's like, you know, somebody took my candy.
Speaker 1: We don't have any film. You know, somebody's late. Did
Speaker 1: we ever run out of film? Um, we came, We
Speaker 1: came close. We used a lot of short ends one
Speaker 1: particular week because part of the reason that we were
Speaker 1: able to fly under the radar financially, and one of
Speaker 1: the reasons that that show was one of the last
Speaker 1: shows to be on film is because we shot on sixteen.
Speaker 1: We shot Super sixteen, not thirty five, So we cut
Speaker 1: our production costs, you know, by a lot. But we
Speaker 1: made a great print. I mean we we showed that
Speaker 1: show on a d GA in the g GA screening
Speaker 1: room and it held up. So yeah, but those of
Speaker 1: you don't know, this was one of the last shows
Speaker 1: still being shot on film, especially sixteen millimeter film probably
Speaker 1: at the time. Probably nothing is right now I would
Speaker 1: I would guess unless it's like a big budget feature
Speaker 1: on Netflix or something. But most people don't do that
Speaker 1: anymore anyway. And it's one of the reasons why people
Speaker 1: always ask how come there's no blu ray and high
Speaker 1: resolution sixteen by nine version of the show. It's because
Speaker 1: when we made it, we didn't and we were done
Speaker 1: with it. No one anticipated all this streaming stuff, so
Speaker 1: it was never like uprez to be four K video, right,
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't cut the film and then and
Speaker 1: then we do it, and some of the film that
Speaker 1: we used you can't even get anymore. A lot of
Speaker 1: the flashback scenes I think, I think you'll see it
Speaker 1: in season one are shot on something that was called
Speaker 1: reversal film, which was like from the Vietnam War. You
Speaker 1: could had this look of yeah, that's why they they
Speaker 1: have a specific texture those. In fact, there's different clearly
Speaker 1: a different film stock being shot for these interview sequences,
Speaker 1: because they're very grainy and have a different color sort
Speaker 1: of palette than the show itself. Did you when did
Speaker 1: we switch When did we switch over to chip? Then
Speaker 1: when did we switch over to digital, because I know,
Speaker 1: what did you do it in season nine? It would
Speaker 1: only be in season nine. I think it was before
Speaker 1: season nine, to be honest with you, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean because because it was talked about so much shows,
Speaker 1: because the NBC had made this mandate that everybody was
Speaker 1: going digital. But then when they looked at our numbers,
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, keep doing what you're doing. Like
Speaker 1: I think, I think maybe in that season nine we
Speaker 1: went digital, like I honestly can't remember off the top
Speaker 1: of my head. I remember that. I remember that that
Speaker 1: was very interesting when you would see them changing mags
Speaker 1: or somebody getting the film ready for the day and
Speaker 1: having to put the film in a mag so that
Speaker 1: it could fit on the camera and reaching into this
Speaker 1: like bag. It looked like a bag, is what it
Speaker 1: looked like. Well, it was a picture like a miniature
Speaker 1: camping tent that like that would fit on a desktop,
Speaker 1: and it was blacked out so that they could put
Speaker 1: their hands in there and not expose the film while
Speaker 1: loading them of camera magazines. Right, I used to I
Speaker 1: used to be like, I remember when we switched over
Speaker 1: to I guess it was season nine where we switched
Speaker 1: over to Chip and I remember being like, this is
Speaker 1: the easiest thing in the world. Why didn't we do
Speaker 1: this before? Like we could do takes for days and
Speaker 1: days and days. All I remember all my fuck ups,
Speaker 1: every time I missed a line or forgot a line
Speaker 1: and everything like that. I remember being like, how much
Speaker 1: how much more room do we have on the mag
Speaker 1: before before you know what I mean, before we're out
Speaker 1: and we have to and we have to change the
Speaker 1: mag again, you'd have eleven you'd have about eleven minutes
Speaker 1: on on a sixty milimeter magazine and uh and and
Speaker 1: you'd be like trying to trying to get it, and
Speaker 1: be like, how much more how much more fun we
Speaker 1: got before we roll out? I got it? I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta let let's go. You can go forever. Now
Speaker 1: you'd be like, don't cut, don't cut, we gotta cut,
Speaker 1: we gotta cut. We only got like nineteen feet all right?
Speaker 1: Five cut? Um. When I say to Sarah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: need a stool sample, not for medical reasons, my robot
Speaker 1: needs food. Um. I made that up, I'm proud to say.
Speaker 1: And Sarah cracked up at it, and um, it's so
Speaker 1: random and weird, But I love it. Okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: feed my robot pooh pooh, your roboties pooh, patient, pooh,
Speaker 1: patient pooh. For the robe all comes down to pooh.
Speaker 1: And I laughed out loud when Sarah is seventeen o four,
Speaker 1: Sarah is making fun of my laugh because she's like
Speaker 1: already over me, and she's like, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: is so funny that she does. There's a funny impression
Speaker 1: of you, because I mean that laugh. Is got a
Speaker 1: lot of genuine laughs with the silly JD laugh all
Speaker 1: through the season. Yeah. I feel like that's how every
Speaker 1: I think that's how every relationship should be. What you
Speaker 1: see is what you get, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, unfortunately what you see and what you get
Speaker 1: sometimes you think you want it, and then eventually it
Speaker 1: makes you want to kill the person, which it turns
Speaker 1: out to, which turns out to be with Elliott and
Speaker 1: j D. She loved the laugh in the beginning, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love it so cute. And then at the end
Speaker 1: of the show she's like, fuck that laugh, dude, laugh
Speaker 1: like that again one more time, I dare you. It's like,
Speaker 1: say what again again, motherfucker, Say what one more time?
Speaker 1: I know I hear you. Isn't that so sad though?
Speaker 1: When a relationship goes sour and all the things you
Speaker 1: thought were so adorable you now just fucking hate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my life back in the day. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: got such potential. We have some guests here, uh, Randall,
Speaker 1: So we have a guest that come on the show. Randall,
Speaker 1: I know that you don't listen to the podcast. So
Speaker 1: Randall listen to the podcast? He does, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah he does. Because somebody was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: they talked about you on a podcast the other Yeah,
Speaker 1: that means that means that Randall was told by someone
Speaker 1: and he went and listened to one. He was like,
Speaker 1: oh they got a podcast. Hut that out o, somebody's
Speaker 1: on a podcast. Friends. I was like, oh, nice, man,
Speaker 1: I got shut out. All right, we're gonna go to
Speaker 1: a break and when we come back, we'll have our guests.
Speaker 1: So Randall, um, when we do the commercial breaks and
Speaker 1: the song comes back, it doesn't have them. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of our fans like to add their
Speaker 1: own m that's part of Barbara. Barbara and Robert are twins.
Speaker 1: One of you is a doctor. God, things are getting weird.
Speaker 1: You guys, two different women have entered and they appear
Speaker 1: to be identical twins in different parts of the world.
Speaker 1: Where you guys calling from, I'm calling you from UK
Speaker 1: belief and you're so you guys. Are you a doctor?
Speaker 1: Yes I am, Yes, I am, but I'm not working yet. Okay.
Speaker 1: I had some problems for coronavirus which delayed some technical issues. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: And then Robbie, what about you? Are you a doctor too? No? No,
Speaker 1: I got do waited in law last February, So you've
Speaker 1: got a lawyer and a doctor while your parents must
Speaker 1: be very happy, very proud. Yeah. And last time we
Speaker 1: saw each other was at the beginning of March when
Speaker 1: I brought Bobby to the airport to take her flight
Speaker 1: to go to the UK and move there. Also, we've
Speaker 1: been apart for a long time. You must miss each other, Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. That's why I also asked you
Speaker 1: to do this meeting in because I knew that it
Speaker 1: was very important to her. It is important also for me.
Speaker 1: But she had a very rough time, so oh well,
Speaker 1: we're here to cheer her up. I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: you called in because not only do you have the
Speaker 1: legendary Donald Fazon here and he's always funny. You have
Speaker 1: Randall Winston who was our line producer, but you may
Speaker 1: know him as Leonard the security guard. And also he
Speaker 1: played Death. And you know, we've gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: questions for Death our Instagram pages. So finally you can
Speaker 1: ask Death any question you have. Oh that's wonderful. Thanks you.
Speaker 1: I played much Mouth from Yeah, you did play much
Speaker 1: Mouth from Freaking the Fat album up. Yes, different, you
Speaker 1: had three different parts. Randall, you had that big as
Speaker 1: helmet on your head too, all right, So let's get
Speaker 1: out to it ahead, ladies, ask a question. I would
Speaker 1: like to start because I am in a theater company
Speaker 1: as well, so sometimes we argue about the best ways
Speaker 1: to perform. You know, when you have to feel in
Speaker 1: character and you have to feel what your character is
Speaker 1: feeling in order to act. So I was wondering whether
Speaker 1: sometimes you had some difficulties with that and to make
Speaker 1: a very strange scene you couldn't really feel what JD
Speaker 1: or Turk or Beth or leonards. Thank you for including Bobby,
Speaker 1: Thank you for including him. My pleasure. So if you
Speaker 1: had to find some strange way to perform, I thought
Speaker 1: about this question when I was listening to your podcast
Speaker 1: last week and Donald said when he had to memorize
Speaker 1: the line you need the surgical council, so you had
Speaker 1: to make a song about it. So if my question
Speaker 1: is not about memorizing things, it's more about like acting
Speaker 1: the feeling. Yeah, uh, you know, let me let Letard
Speaker 1: go first. When I strapped on the arm. You know, here,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You you work hard. You work so
Speaker 1: hard to try to feel everything, and that's what comes
Speaker 1: with being an actor. You're gonna work hard hard and
Speaker 1: you've ever worked in your life to try to feel it.
Speaker 1: But when the camera rolls and you don't feel it,
Speaker 1: you better act the shit out of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it still has to be made. So you're going to
Speaker 1: work your hardest to try and feel the emotion and
Speaker 1: find the emotion and pinpoint what it is that you're
Speaker 1: You know, you'll make notes and you'll do all of
Speaker 1: that stuff, but there comes a time when you're doing
Speaker 1: it where all of that preparation and stuff isn't helping,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so when it's not helping,
Speaker 1: it's time for you to act the shit out of it,
Speaker 1: and that's just how it goes, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say there's times when it's really just natural, and
Speaker 1: then there's times where it feels forced and you don't
Speaker 1: feel present. You can see the cameraman and you can
Speaker 1: see the crew, and your stomachs growling because you're hungry,
Speaker 1: and you know, you had an argument with someone in
Speaker 1: your family and all these things that happen in any job,
Speaker 1: and you and you're in your head and you're distracted,
Speaker 1: and the trick with acting is to always be as
Speaker 1: present as possible. The goodness about acting on film and
Speaker 1: tell television is you really only need to do it
Speaker 1: in spurts because you're you're you're trying to shine for
Speaker 1: your other actor, but also when the camera's on you,
Speaker 1: when it's on when you matter what the shot is.
Speaker 1: When you're doing a play, you have to maintain that
Speaker 1: for two hours and seeing real But with with film
Speaker 1: and TV acting, the real challenge is to get it
Speaker 1: in spurts enough so that it will cut together and
Speaker 1: be believable. Um but but yeah, it can be really
Speaker 1: it can be really challenging, especially when you're there's so
Speaker 1: much distraction. You know, there's phones ringing, and there's a
Speaker 1: helicopter overhead, and you're upset about something in your private life.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's a real challenge to do
Speaker 1: everything you can to be present in the moment. And
Speaker 1: when you can't be present, that's what that's what acting is.
Speaker 1: Then you fake it till you make it, fake it
Speaker 1: till you make it. Now, Randall, when you were playing Leonard, um,
Speaker 1: did you did? You didn't? Didn't Leonard have a love interest?
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh, yes I had. It was a scene.
Speaker 1: Yes she was? Or uh? And wasn't she a fellow
Speaker 1: security yard or no? No, she was she maybe she
Speaker 1: was a candy striper or something. I just oh, Robbie
Speaker 1: knows she was an old intern. Yes, Robbie, take me
Speaker 1: to task. That was I had to h open mouth
Speaker 1: kissing her. Um. That was specifically requested by her. Was
Speaker 1: it in the script? Um? Yeah, that parts a little foggy,
Speaker 1: But you know, I think Robbie's question, how did you
Speaker 1: maintain being president in the moment when you were kissing
Speaker 1: the senior citizen? You know what, Robbie, I should have
Speaker 1: been listening and I've been listening to her. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were listening to her mouth. Okay, ladies, good question. Yes,
Speaker 1: go ahead with another one. Donald left he was so
Speaker 1: offended by that question he left. Okay. So my question
Speaker 1: is we watched Scrabs a lot of time, and the
Speaker 1: first time we watched it we were just teenagers, and
Speaker 1: so we watched it in Italian. So I wondered, have
Speaker 1: you ever listened to yourself dubbed in other languages such
Speaker 1: as Alien or Spanish or Japan. Yes? Yeah, I hate
Speaker 1: how they dubbed me in Spanish and Italian and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I never have a deep voice. I'm always like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I prefer your voice. You know what's funny is that
Speaker 1: in most countries, when you become a known actor, they
Speaker 1: picked the same actor to always do you. So if
Speaker 1: Donald's in one, if he's in Scrubs and then he
Speaker 1: goes off to do another film that's not even doing Scrubs,
Speaker 1: it's usually the same actor being Donald. And I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate that that one person is like, oh no,
Speaker 1: was he playing in this? Oh don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: I did him on Scrubs. I got this. So to
Speaker 1: Donald's to Donald's dismay, that voice will always be his voice,
Speaker 1: That pisces me off man. Um, yeah, I have. I've
Speaker 1: heard myself in almost so many voices traveling around, especially
Speaker 1: when the show was on NonStop. We traveled around the
Speaker 1: world and you turn on the TV and there you
Speaker 1: were speaking German. It was very funny. I remember then
Speaker 1: there was a thing where we had Germans in the
Speaker 1: show Herman the German right with the with the balloon thing.
Speaker 1: And then I remember in Germany they had to change
Speaker 1: where they were from because it made no sense that
Speaker 1: their language was different, like you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: like you think about it. If the show has a
Speaker 1: character that speaking of the language, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden the show's dubbed into that language, they then have
Speaker 1: to switch that person's language, so it doesn't it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think we made them Belgium. Yes, I think you're right. No, Randall,
Speaker 1: how do you feel as being dubbed as Death and
Speaker 1: Leonard as long as my fan base? Did you ever hear?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard yourself dubbed in other languages? Randall?
Speaker 1: I have not. The good thing about dubbing Death is
Speaker 1: that you don't see his mouth moves, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: look bad exactly. I prefer subtitles but they don't. They
Speaker 1: don't do that. A lot of countries just dub it.
Speaker 1: I don't prefer subtitles. I do not like subtitles. You
Speaker 1: don't you rather be dubbed? Yeah, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: very poor reader. So having to read subtitles does your
Speaker 1: poor screen? Does your dyslexia? Um? I've never asked you
Speaker 1: this before, but does that make you less likely to
Speaker 1: watch subtitled films? Uh? No, you know, a good movie
Speaker 1: is a good movie, no matter what, even with a
Speaker 1: learning disability, even if it is written on the screen.
Speaker 1: My dyslexia isn't so bad that I can't keep up right.
Speaker 1: I just never asked you. I wondered if you if
Speaker 1: you said a fuck, it's be a pan the asked
Speaker 1: for me to read these subtitles or not? No, I
Speaker 1: prefer I would. I would prefer not to read. I'd
Speaker 1: prefer to listen to a dubbed mix. Right, got it?
Speaker 1: Do you guys have another question? Oh? You're giving them
Speaker 1: three am because they're separated sisters. They're separated sisters. This
Speaker 1: is the first time they've talked to each other since
Speaker 1: in March. Right, they're using us. They don't care about scrubs.
Speaker 1: They just want to, you know, get on our zoom
Speaker 1: and talk to each other. I did a show back
Speaker 1: in a day called Free to Be a Family, and
Speaker 1: we did a space bridge to Russia. And this is
Speaker 1: like our space bridge between the UK and Italy. So
Speaker 1: was that like free to be? Was that like free
Speaker 1: to be you and me? Yeah, it was free to
Speaker 1: be you and me. We're we're gonna have to send
Speaker 1: free to be you and me, so day, we're free
Speaker 1: to be. I could say it in Russian mowglib we
Speaker 1: wheat ea et et eya mowglibeat noisen joy. Right, Wow,
Speaker 1: we're free to be you and me, You and me,
Speaker 1: we're free to be a family. I only know a
Speaker 1: little Russian from the Billy Joel Collaped album when he
Speaker 1: played and he said Manyaza vote Minnie Joe, and the
Speaker 1: crowd went crazy. I know that because I got to
Speaker 1: rap We're free to be you and me with the
Speaker 1: Fat Boys. There a lot of people don't remember the
Speaker 1: Fat Boys, but one of them was an amazing beat
Speaker 1: boxer and he beat boxed while I rapped. Anyway, So
Speaker 1: if you guys, do you guys ever answer any any
Speaker 1: any calls on the Scrubs phone that we're from out
Speaker 1: of the country. No, I never answered. When we did
Speaker 1: this episode with Call Turk and we had cal Turk,
Speaker 1: we had to get a real phone line, and Bill
Speaker 1: thought it would be I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: you or Bill Randall, but said, you know, rather than
Speaker 1: do a five five five number, let's get a real
Speaker 1: number and have it all ring on a cell phone.
Speaker 1: And so the cell phone was in the Scrubs production
Speaker 1: office and it would just ring all the time. And
Speaker 1: when you were randomly just walking through and you had
Speaker 1: a minute to kill, you just answer it and talk
Speaker 1: to fans because it would just ring NonStop, right stop
Speaker 1: for like five years. And we got the map. We
Speaker 1: put pins in it, you know, every time we would
Speaker 1: get calls. Yeah, that was cool. It was all over
Speaker 1: the world. All right, ladies, one last question, go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I started to reach watch the show
Speaker 1: as well during this quarantine because my boyfriend was with
Speaker 1: me and he never watched Scrubs before, so I wanted
Speaker 1: to rewatch it with him, and we watched it on
Speaker 1: Amanton Prime and I noticed the thing that you mentioned
Speaker 1: sometimes in the podcast that they changed a few songs,
Speaker 1: especially one. It really pissed me off they changed it.
Speaker 1: It was the one in the second season when j
Speaker 1: D and Elliot kiss again and they start again and
Speaker 1: it's dreaming of you of the chorale, and I was
Speaker 1: so waiting for that scene, and when it arrived, the
Speaker 1: song was a different one. So I was so pissed off.
Speaker 1: And we are too. Yeah. So I it's wondering whether
Speaker 1: you have some one song or two that you really
Speaker 1: really like and you're attached to it in you know,
Speaker 1: in one scene of Scrubs, and you would really be
Speaker 1: angry if someone changed. Wow. Good question. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: anytime Josh Raden did music on the show, if that
Speaker 1: got taken off of the show, I would be very upset.
Speaker 1: One because Josh is a is a very close body
Speaker 1: of mine. And two his songs it seems like were
Speaker 1: made for the episodes of Scrubs, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Zach and Josh had a thing
Speaker 1: where Zach would be like, yo, I need you to
Speaker 1: write a song about this, and he'd be like, I
Speaker 1: got it. No. But I mean the example that comes
Speaker 1: to mind the same thing with me is is Robbie
Speaker 1: is Josh's song because you know we've told this on
Speaker 1: the podcast before, but when he wrote that song Winter
Speaker 1: that played at Benefracker's character's funeral, you know, that was
Speaker 1: the first song you'd ever written, like he didn't have.
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, oh my god, this is amazing. Where
Speaker 1: where's your album? He's like album. It was the only
Speaker 1: song I a rim, So that one was particularly special
Speaker 1: to all of us because Josh was our friend. He
Speaker 1: started playing guitar late in life. He wasn't someone who
Speaker 1: played as a kid, and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: with the thanks to Bill putting him in the show,
Speaker 1: his career blew up and he traveled, you know, when
Speaker 1: the world is not under lockdown, he travels all around
Speaker 1: the world. And you guys should see him when he
Speaker 1: comes to Italy because you'll you'll recognize a lot of
Speaker 1: his music that was in Scrubs. Another person I wanted
Speaker 1: to just mention was Colin Hay who was really special
Speaker 1: to the show. And yes, now we're trying to get Branda,
Speaker 1: I need your help. By the way, the fans are
Speaker 1: all listening, Yes, I need to get Colin's information because
Speaker 1: we'd like to have him on for the episode he
Speaker 1: was on in season two. Okay, I can go to
Speaker 1: whatever I had as my last contact. But Colin was
Speaker 1: a real friend of the show and fun and funny
Speaker 1: and had a good sense of humor about himself. There
Speaker 1: was a song I think it's in this season, the
Speaker 1: Christmas episode and Donald you are running and we play
Speaker 1: center Man. Yeah, that song feel it was super powerful
Speaker 1: in the episode. And and we were all disappointed when
Speaker 1: songs got changed out, particularly in those first couple of seasons,
Speaker 1: because we were sort of like the bastard step child
Speaker 1: over there and like always held to a very strict,
Speaker 1: low budget number. We licensed a lot of songs not
Speaker 1: for forever. You know, when you licensed the song may
Speaker 1: have something called in perpetuity and all of the media
Speaker 1: that is now known or yet to be figured out,
Speaker 1: and you can keep the song. And so this one
Speaker 1: and two the music wasn't licensed that way, so we
Speaker 1: had to make some of those decisions about which baby kill.
Speaker 1: I always assumed it was that I didn't know. What
Speaker 1: you're implying is that as the seasons go on, you
Speaker 1: then did shot started doing contracts that would cover streaming,
Speaker 1: but no one knew what streaming was at the time,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So like the first couple of seasons, the
Speaker 1: first couple of seasons, if the licensing has run out
Speaker 1: and I didn't renegotiate or sign on to continue the licensing,
Speaker 1: the network automatically just changed the song. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: I actually had to sit with music editor and music
Speaker 1: licensing for like a week or so after the seasons
Speaker 1: were over in the summertime to figure out like what
Speaker 1: songs were. Oh. I always wondered who was who was
Speaker 1: putting these songs on. We've we talked about that on
Speaker 1: the podcast that you don't listen to, But we always
Speaker 1: wondered to what intern, what intern somewhere is choosing these
Speaker 1: like second best songs. It's it was an exercise and
Speaker 1: killing babies like everything. It was great. But they're like,
Speaker 1: they're like, you absolutely cannot have all of this. You
Speaker 1: know what do you want to safe? Right? You're not
Speaker 1: gonna have Center Man forever. Um, all right, ladies, we
Speaker 1: have to move on because death has to take his
Speaker 1: kids swimming and um. But thank you. I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: you're I feel sad that you're two sisters that are separated. Um,
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Is there anything you want to say to
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, is there anything you want to say
Speaker 1: to each other while everyone's listening. It's a free call. Ye.
Speaker 1: We actually rehearsed it before we take a picture with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah. Let me just get fresh for you.
Speaker 1: Let me get fresh. Here we go. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you lady so much, thank you, be safe so much.
Speaker 1: We sa nineteen o nine in the Bowling Alley. Two
Speaker 1: people on the left side of the screen spike the lens,
Speaker 1: look directly into the camera. I'm not sure. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the Bowling Alley. Is that not the day when our
Speaker 1: prop man got stuck under under Yes, it is. Retrieve
Speaker 1: the ball that it reached it. It was proper set. Patrick,
Speaker 1: my name Patrick Bolton. It was somebody who we laughed
Speaker 1: at much longer before we helped them. It was because
Speaker 1: I think the thing came down on him and we
Speaker 1: thought it was hilarious. It was like a cartoon yourself's legs.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly somebody was like, oh my god, we
Speaker 1: should probably take get him out of there. I remember
Speaker 1: he wasn't with us very much longer after that either,
Speaker 1: though he was not. He was soon after he hid
Speaker 1: rowdy in the ceiling. He went to that guy. That
Speaker 1: guy went to, uh Jimmy Kimmel. Ah. Okay, So anyway,
Speaker 1: two people at the bowling AUTI looked right in the lens.
Speaker 1: If you're interested in your in your new hobby of
Speaker 1: finding people who spiked the lens, Donald you say, my
Speaker 1: baby knows how to knock him down. That was funny.
Speaker 1: My baby does know. Not. That was a lot of
Speaker 1: fun I don't Okay, like most episodes we've watched so far,
Speaker 1: when watching this, I didn't remember any of it, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was the cutest thing. I thought Turk
Speaker 1: and Carla was so cute and so on point for
Speaker 1: the joke when j D's like, you know, couples go
Speaker 1: through this, this is what happens. Name showed me a
Speaker 1: happy couple. And then the way you see Turk and
Speaker 1: Carla enjoying themselves. Yeah, yes, that was wonderful. And they're
Speaker 1: so sweet together. I mean you just you just love them.
Speaker 1: And then especially of course when you cut to the
Speaker 1: documentary footage thing and they're, you know, and they're being
Speaker 1: so adorable and both saying how much they love each
Speaker 1: other no, and you're rooting for them yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and not necessarily for Elliott and j D in this episode.
Speaker 1: Even though it starts software you're rooting for them, you
Speaker 1: can tell once it gets to the bad times, you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: these guys really aren't good for each other. Went sours
Speaker 1: so quick though, very well, you only have a half
Speaker 1: an hour to tell the story. No, I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: in the world of the show, they dated for like
Speaker 1: two weeks and then they were like, this isn't working.
Speaker 1: But I think there was a point sasion by Bill
Speaker 1: because he wanted you know, he didn't want to have
Speaker 1: that protracted Yeah will they won't they the friends thing,
Speaker 1: you know, and then he ended up doing it anyway. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: but that's because it works well even at the end
Speaker 1: of right, but even at the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: you say, she you know that they're do I think
Speaker 1: it'll work? Yeah? I do. And Jad's right. Jad's right.
Speaker 1: It does work. It just doesn't work at that moment
Speaker 1: in time. Yeah, in the long run, in the in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, these two are meant to
Speaker 1: be together. Sad though, I was. I was sad watching
Speaker 1: it that the two people who love each other who
Speaker 1: can't I'm just a sucker for unrequited love and love
Speaker 1: that cannot be. And here's two people that we want
Speaker 1: to be together but they can't. But that's when Harry
Speaker 1: met Sally. Like you said, that's that's when Harry met
Speaker 1: Sally all over again, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: that's such one of my favorite that's first of all,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan.
Speaker 1: But that story is great, you know. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of Fiona apple Lyric when she says, only kisses on
Speaker 1: the cheek from now on and in a little while, lonely,
Speaker 1: they have to wave no, no, baby, all right, if
Speaker 1: I need you, I'll just use your simple name. Keep going.
Speaker 1: Finish it. Only kisses on the cheek from now on
Speaker 1: and in a little while, will only have to wave.
Speaker 1: That's so fucked up. They only have to wave. Hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Hey? I remember breaking up with someone
Speaker 1: and then going to give them a kiss and they
Speaker 1: gave me the cheek and being like, yeah, that's probably
Speaker 1: where what I should We should probably gets on a
Speaker 1: cheek from one oh yeah, and now I just wave.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say is that when
Speaker 1: I liked how Judy a her delivery and also the
Speaker 1: writing when she she ends the documentary section, and she
Speaker 1: says he seems to like who I am, and I
Speaker 1: just thought that was so sweet, Like, you know, all
Speaker 1: bullshit aside, it seems like he genuinely likes who I
Speaker 1: genuinely am, and I just thought that was really pretty. Yeah, man, Randall,
Speaker 1: you've been a phenomenal guest. Thank you for having I
Speaker 1: feel like we're one step away from getting in your
Speaker 1: car with you, so we want to let you go.
Speaker 1: We should you just promise us you'll come back, and
Speaker 1: do you come back? Randall? I feel like you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a fan favorite because delight here Randall. Randall, you
Speaker 1: use a washcloth in the shower? Uh? Yes, Okay, Randall's black, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you this. I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: you this. All black people use wash cloths. We have
Speaker 1: hotan right, Randall, We love you. You can count us
Speaker 1: into our theme song. Thank you everybody for listening to
Speaker 1: Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Randall count us in three two one. No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't listen to show. He does. He does listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast, doesn't listen to out He's just been outed,
Speaker 1: you guys. He doesn't listen to the podcast. Six seven
Speaker 1: eight Stories show we made about a bunch of docs
Speaker 1: and nurses and a janitor who loved me. I said,
Speaker 1: here's a stories nevere all should go. So gather around you.
Speaker 1: Here are gather around you, Here are Scotch me watch
Speaker 1: shows at the time. Mm hmmm