Speaker 1: Donald. I'm very excited today. I'm very excited today to
Speaker 1: listen man hold on before we get it started and
Speaker 1: before we get into this. I'm so happy with all
Speaker 1: of the press that we're getting and all of the
Speaker 1: people that are listening to us and stuff. Thank you
Speaker 1: for fans of tuning in. This is really amazing. We
Speaker 1: certainly weren't expecting it. We just did press to Australia.
Speaker 1: I I we certainly weren't expecting this kind of reaction,
Speaker 1: not at all. And I did some press for Emergence
Speaker 1: today and they wanted to talk about the podcast and
Speaker 1: it was overseas those like in the UK and stuff.
Speaker 1: I guess we're are we playing in the UK? Is
Speaker 1: this true? All over the globe? You can listen to
Speaker 1: this and Stodd you can listen? Can you really listen
Speaker 1: to it? And Stod yes, you know. If you have
Speaker 1: a computer, you can listen to us right as long
Speaker 1: as you have I Heart. Wherever you get your podcasts,
Speaker 1: you can hear us. But we're a sponsor our plug
Speaker 1: is I heart so big? Shout out to my heart.
Speaker 1: I don't have it. We don't have a sponsor yet
Speaker 1: really yet we will, I guess, but I just want
Speaker 1: to say that, Red Bull, if you want to sponsor us,
Speaker 1: you should, because I just drank a full one and
Speaker 1: I am so hyped up right now. I'm so thrilled
Speaker 1: about our guest, so am I. I'm very excited about
Speaker 1: who we have on the show. At first, we should sing, Donald,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Seven stories about show we made,
Speaker 1: about a bunch of docs and nurses and jan stories
Speaker 1: around here are around here, all right now. You might
Speaker 1: know her as America's favorite Canadian. You might know her
Speaker 1: as uh second Becky. You might know her as the
Speaker 1: beautiful blonde that starred on the show Scrubs for many years.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Donald, you do the intro. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: boys and girls, cats, dogs, whatever you may be. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. The one and only Sarah Chaws
Speaker 1: s Hi, Sara. Don't worry, we'll add thunderous applause. It
Speaker 1: don't sound like you walked into a stadium. Yeah, Dan,
Speaker 1: can can you add the thunderous applause? Thank you? All right,
Speaker 1: here's Sarah Chalk Hi, Sarah. I even didn't know whether
Speaker 1: to talk because I didn't hear the thunder supplause. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe I was just getting a glitch in these
Speaker 1: fancy headphones. Can I see you guys? Like right now,
Speaker 1: I'm staring at the garage band screen? Can I make
Speaker 1: it small so I can see you guys? You gotta
Speaker 1: click on zom so, so Dan, can I make Can
Speaker 1: I hit the yellow button and make garage bands small?
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put it out there. You ruined our introduction.
Speaker 1: I don't want to edit it out. Dan, listen, now
Speaker 1: that Sarah has ruined the mag you want the fans
Speaker 1: to know that we've been on We've been on zoom
Speaker 1: for a half hour. Well, Sarah was getting technical support
Speaker 1: from Sarah literally had a Sarah had a technical intervention
Speaker 1: with our She was like, how do you start your laptop?
Speaker 1: And yet I've still felt I've never felt more proud
Speaker 1: are you than I do in this moment, Because okay,
Speaker 1: I just want to successfully. Jean Michelle is going to
Speaker 1: edit this out. Just give me one second. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit the yellow button in the corner, Dan and minimize
Speaker 1: garage bend so I can see Zack and Donald. Do it.
Speaker 1: Just do it. You don't even have to ask. I'm
Speaker 1: worried that Sarah is gonna call Dan for other technical
Speaker 1: help in her life. She's gonna be like, hey Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm signal, I have Dan email. How are you? I'm good, guys.
Speaker 1: I miss you. I miss you, and now seeing you
Speaker 1: on this zoom is making me miss you more. Where
Speaker 1: are you quarantining in Canada? I imagine, so I'm quarantining.
Speaker 1: I'm quarantining Canada. My sister and I have decided to
Speaker 1: quarantine our families together. So we have communally six children,
Speaker 1: three dogs, and a cat. Wow. How are you doing school?
Speaker 1: How school going? School's interesting? School is um Basicly, we
Speaker 1: have children between the ages of three and sixteen, so
Speaker 1: we'd only have so many screens and so much bandwidth
Speaker 1: to attend different online classes. So we've been kind of
Speaker 1: doing some of that and then some group classes. I
Speaker 1: my sister is a lawyer, so she's teaching law, so
Speaker 1: like really right things like you know, UM, lessons on
Speaker 1: the Rights of the Child, the United Nations Convention on
Speaker 1: the Rights of the Child. Next week's the Constitution, and
Speaker 1: I do equally important things like give them cartoons sides
Speaker 1: and they audition for cartoons. M you could give them
Speaker 1: a scene from Rick and Morty, and you guys could
Speaker 1: all play parts we have actually we've done We've done
Speaker 1: some some cartoons. We haven't reached Rick and Wardy yet
Speaker 1: because that's not appropriate for the four year old, and
Speaker 1: as it's sort of you know, tight quarters, we haven't
Speaker 1: gotten there yet. But yet, um it's pretty nuts. I mean,
Speaker 1: I were all quarantined together. I'm the designated grocery shopper,
Speaker 1: probably because of all my O C D tendencies. So
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, that's the most harrowing experience in
Speaker 1: my life right now, which is, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store. I have my own version
Speaker 1: of Ppe, which is like rating the drama eight prop spin.
Speaker 1: So I have like a tuk and sunglasses and I,
Speaker 1: you know, just put my hottie up and gloves on.
Speaker 1: Is a hat? It has a hat? Yes, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I what is it? To Sarah? Sarah, if you wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind translating your canadianisms as we go through the podcast.
Speaker 1: There are some non Canadians listening listen. Yes, the main
Speaker 1: the main ones really are two Garberrator Parcade and Seawall.
Speaker 1: What what's Garber? The garbage dipposal the garbage disposal? Got it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which happened to be the first thing that broke when
Speaker 1: I went when I came to Los Angeles and the
Speaker 1: landlord did not understand me. A parkade, a parking parking structure.
Speaker 1: Your Canadians doing very well, you've been studying. I'm just guessing.
Speaker 1: I'm playing a game called guests. The Canadian expression, are
Speaker 1: there any any parcade? Um? Seawall? What's a sea wall?
Speaker 1: The obvious? And then you have that thing with the
Speaker 1: gravy and fries. What's that called? But that's okay, I
Speaker 1: know about Putin's so good. Yeah, it's the gravy and
Speaker 1: the cheese kords on top of a of the fries.
Speaker 1: It's fries, but they take great pride in it in Canada.
Speaker 1: How's your guys quarantine going? Oh, it's amazing. How much
Speaker 1: time do you spend? Donald in that closet? Sara Donald
Speaker 1: tells his family that he's recording the podcast. Donald's family
Speaker 1: thinks he records the podcast every day and he's in
Speaker 1: the closet. But meanwhile, we do it a week. My
Speaker 1: wife keeps asking, like, Yo, how come when is the
Speaker 1: next episode coming out? You record so many of them,
Speaker 1: you're banking him him soon? Okay, see things that Donald records,
Speaker 1: like four podcasts a day in there. Well, I definitely
Speaker 1: do a lot of press. I'll be like, I'm doing
Speaker 1: so much press right now. You can set up you
Speaker 1: should set up your your your PlayStation in there. Donald.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how I get the TV in here.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. D damn Dans he knows, Dan, do
Speaker 1: it Dan really quickly. It says, Zoom would like to
Speaker 1: record this computer screen. Grant access to this application in
Speaker 1: security privacy preferences. Deny, no, no, no, no no, you
Speaker 1: don't want to record this, Sarah. Dan is out, He's
Speaker 1: not He's not there for your technical needs. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Let's get into Wait, before we
Speaker 1: get into the episode, Sarah, Donald and I have done
Speaker 1: this a few episodes now, and now that we have you,
Speaker 1: we wanted to ask you tell us about your casting
Speaker 1: process because as I remember, you were coming off of Roseanne,
Speaker 1: you were doing that particularly unique thing where you had
Speaker 1: replaced the Becky that was used before. Wasn't Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: I was like when that happened, so four years before
Speaker 1: and uh, and by the way, I was thinking as
Speaker 1: well as I was preparing for this because Sarah. I
Speaker 1: do a lot of research. I get really into this now.
Speaker 1: By the way, I found for you Scrubs fans out
Speaker 1: there and for us, I found a website called scrubs
Speaker 1: Wicky w I k I where it has like everything
Speaker 1: you ever want to know about Scrubs. Like I'm like, literally,
Speaker 1: whoever made that? It doesn't have everything. It doesn't have us, No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have us, but it has a lot of
Speaker 1: It has a lot of insightful information. And um, I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like they should not go to
Speaker 1: wiki scrubs Wicky. Yeah, but it has like it literally
Speaker 1: has like these are the fantasies in the episode. These
Speaker 1: are the girls name j D was called. These are
Speaker 1: It's like all break broken battles. Someone put a lot
Speaker 1: of work into it. Don get him a shout out.
Speaker 1: Shout out to you for putting all that work in.
Speaker 1: But we got it from here. Oh my god, Donald's jealous,
Speaker 1: all right, listen, um Donald that as you guys before,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Sarah, and I was thinking, is
Speaker 1: there another example other than Rosanne? Where and they just
Speaker 1: replaced the actress and had them play the same character
Speaker 1: and witched and was he still was he just a
Speaker 1: different Darren. Yeah, I think they just flipped him out,
Speaker 1: clipped him. Tell just briefly about that, because I find
Speaker 1: it's it's a very unique thing, and you've told me
Speaker 1: and Donald and I just wanted if you could just
Speaker 1: talk about what that was like really quickly because I
Speaker 1: think it's so interesting. Yeah. I mean I was sixteen
Speaker 1: when I auditioned, and uh it was Glenn Quinn, the
Speaker 1: guy who played my husband Mark. The audition was with
Speaker 1: him and he just made out with seven girls consect.
Speaker 1: We were all dressed exactly the same and matching pink shirts,
Speaker 1: and the whole scene was this like makeout scene where
Speaker 1: he's like baby baby camera and I'm like, get a
Speaker 1: job at the gas station, get a job at the
Speaker 1: gas stations, like baby baby, mimir And it was literally
Speaker 1: like every other actress that was auditioning was like twenty
Speaker 1: two living in Los Angeles. I flew in, they flew
Speaker 1: me in for the night to go and read, and uh,
Speaker 1: I just remember I was sixteen, he was twenty four
Speaker 1: and just thinking he is so handsome. How am I
Speaker 1: going to remember one line? And they said, we'll let
Speaker 1: you know in in a couple of days, and then
Speaker 1: they called back and they're like, Okay, come back tomorrow
Speaker 1: and read with Roseanne. Then I did, And then Tom
Speaker 1: Arnold called me at home a few days later, and
Speaker 1: he was trying to feel out whether I was going
Speaker 1: to leave the show to go to college, because I
Speaker 1: was younger then and still you know, at an age
Speaker 1: where I would do that. And Sarah go Good at
Speaker 1: the time had left to go to Gail and she
Speaker 1: was flying back to do episodes, and Lacy had left
Speaker 1: to go to Vassar, and so I knew right away
Speaker 1: that that's what he was asked. I could tell that's
Speaker 1: what he was getting at. I was like, he was
Speaker 1: probably not allowed to do that, right, So he was
Speaker 1: sort of tiptoeing around, baby, why don't you call what happened?
Speaker 1: Probably yes? So then I said I was like, no, no, college, gross,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. And I knew I would go to college,
Speaker 1: but it was the Rose Angel was a big opportunity
Speaker 1: for me, and I knew that. You knew you were
Speaker 1: going to lose the job over it. So you're like college, college, vomit,
Speaker 1: and I I just did it on the side, And
Speaker 1: so so I got the job. At the craziest part
Speaker 1: of the story that I actually hadn't remember and we
Speaker 1: were talking about recently was they called me and told
Speaker 1: me I had the job, and I went to a
Speaker 1: party that night. So I'm into this like little high
Speaker 1: school in Canada, and I get this phone call that
Speaker 1: I was going to replace Becky, and I told a
Speaker 1: couple of people and it's spread around our high school
Speaker 1: pretty fast. It sounded like a lie. I mean, it
Speaker 1: doesn't like I'm going to replace Becky on the Rosann Show.
Speaker 1: The Rosantio was the number one show at the time.
Speaker 1: It sounded fake. And then I get a call the
Speaker 1: following week and it was the Rosanteo saying, we're getting
Speaker 1: cold feet about recasting Becky, so we don't know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. So we're gonna hold you for
Speaker 1: four months. We're gonna give you ten grand to hold you. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, I've never heard of money like ten
Speaker 1: tho dollars. I thought to do nothing, like just to
Speaker 1: sit here for four months while you make a decision.
Speaker 1: And then the other half of me thought, like my
Speaker 1: ass is grass and school, like they're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: in four months if we're actually going to do this.
Speaker 1: So I had to kind of wait brought that money,
Speaker 1: so you should have brought that money to school. And
Speaker 1: just for those of you who don't know, this is
Speaker 1: called a holding deal holding fee. Excuse me what I
Speaker 1: fanned my face with my holding view and then uh,
Speaker 1: and then I know, and by the time you converted
Speaker 1: to Canadian dollars, it was obviously a whole different situation.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, it was a crazy It was a
Speaker 1: crazy experience. I was a baby and I had no
Speaker 1: idea what I was doing, and I just watched like
Speaker 1: Roseanne and Laurie Metcalf and Sandra Bernhardt and sad Or
Speaker 1: Gilbert and John Goodman and Johnny Galecki and this like
Speaker 1: ridiculous list of comedians and um, it was kind of
Speaker 1: in awe and a little bit terrified. And then after
Speaker 1: two seasons, they you know, gave everybody hugs by, like
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys after hiatus, which is the break
Speaker 1: that you take between seasons for anyone listening, it's that
Speaker 1: weird term. And uh, then I get a phone call
Speaker 1: saying Lucy's coming back to play Becky and apparently I
Speaker 1: said I want to talk to Roseanne for closure. I
Speaker 1: don't remember doing that, but apparently what I said, and
Speaker 1: so I did, and then UM and then they called
Speaker 1: me like six episodes into the following season and said,
Speaker 1: come back this week. Darlene is getting married in an
Speaker 1: episode and can you come down and be Becky? And
Speaker 1: I was like it went and they said tomorrow. So
Speaker 1: Lacy had just Leazi had just changed her mind and
Speaker 1: she left. They didn't tell me, they just said can
Speaker 1: you come back tomorrow? And I said, well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to college up here now and uh, and I'm doing
Speaker 1: this UM movie of the week where John Ritter, interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: who played obviously your dad on Scrubs, I was doing
Speaker 1: a TV movie with him up here, and I said,
Speaker 1: so I can come on. I can come on Friday
Speaker 1: night for tape night. So it was the craziest day.
Speaker 1: I remember. I wrote an ocean off the exam at
Speaker 1: like six thirty in the morning, went straight into the
Speaker 1: scene with this pregnancy belly. I just remember ripping the
Speaker 1: pregnancy belly off on the way to the airport and
Speaker 1: got to l A and they had a car waiting
Speaker 1: for me with hair and makeup in the car. Did
Speaker 1: my hair and makeup on the way to the live taping,
Speaker 1: and the taping had already started and I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: anyone since I'd been fired, and they were like, hold
Speaker 1: these flowers, say this, stand here, do this. You got
Speaker 1: to you know, the point where Roseann would take questions
Speaker 1: from the audience, and that somebody said, why do you
Speaker 1: keep switching Becky's back and forth? And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Chalky from now on, And that's how
Speaker 1: I found out I had the job back for the
Speaker 1: last year and a half of the show. Wow, that's insane.
Speaker 1: I really think, Sarah, that is a that is a
Speaker 1: story that I never heard of another actor having. That
Speaker 1: is just if you're if you're I mean, when do
Speaker 1: you ever see or hear something like that happening to
Speaker 1: an actor. That's just insane. Well, we as we all know,
Speaker 1: Sarah has the craziest luck in the history of like
Speaker 1: just everything happens to Sarah. We touched on that a
Speaker 1: bit in an earlier episode, how you would come in
Speaker 1: on Monday morning and you would have a story that
Speaker 1: was like nothing else we had ever heard, and it
Speaker 1: happened every week. Honestly, I still feel like sometimes I
Speaker 1: need to call you guys, because I'm like you you
Speaker 1: would not believe what just happened to me. Lately, it's
Speaker 1: mostly at the grocery store. I mostly want to call
Speaker 1: you after I leave the grocery store and be like,
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and be like, Okay, do I
Speaker 1: get there the produce box bottom self and all the
Speaker 1: products drops in the main aisle where everybody's standing. That's
Speaker 1: the wound behind me, costs little in front of me.
Speaker 1: I mean that is every day. You just couldn't believe that.
Speaker 1: Every Monday morning, you would be like, you are not
Speaker 1: going to believe what happened to me this weekend? And
Speaker 1: then and then we'd be like, yeah, right, and then
Speaker 1: it would she would go into a story that was
Speaker 1: like that's the most insane thing I've ever heard. That's
Speaker 1: just this weekend, right, And also it would be so
Speaker 1: crazy that I'd be like, there's no way she can
Speaker 1: make this up. I mean, it is incredible how similar
Speaker 1: I am with Elliott. Okay, well, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: audition process. Talk about That's a good segue into talking
Speaker 1: about getting scrubs now, because what was what was the
Speaker 1: auditioning process? When I read finally came around to getting callbacks?
Speaker 1: I was I was reading with you. So you were
Speaker 1: were you the first person cast? Doll and I were
Speaker 1: cast together. My audition process, I had just moved back,
Speaker 1: like after the Rosanto, I moved back to Canada for
Speaker 1: four years and then my best friend had finished film
Speaker 1: school and she wanted to produce and I wanted to act,
Speaker 1: and there's you know, there was just at the time
Speaker 1: not as much filming in Canada as does now, and
Speaker 1: I um creatively was like, Okay, I'll go back and
Speaker 1: give Ellie another try. We had a we got a
Speaker 1: six month sublet and we moved down. We didn't know anyone,
Speaker 1: and we never had any plans. And so this one
Speaker 1: night we had plans. We were going to a show
Speaker 1: and I get this. I had two auditions and my
Speaker 1: you know for the next day. And normally, so type
Speaker 1: A I would have canceled my plans and spend every
Speaker 1: second that existed between getting the sides until going into
Speaker 1: the audition working on it. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, funk it, I'm not canceling, you know, on Jen,
Speaker 1: We're going to go to the show. And I got
Speaker 1: home and it was midnight and my audition was at
Speaker 1: nine am, and the other audition was at noon. My
Speaker 1: Scrubs audition was at nine am, and I I opened
Speaker 1: the script and I started reading it, and I swore
Speaker 1: every page. I was like, fuck, gosh, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is so good. And every page I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, this is like the thing I've ever read.
Speaker 1: Oh funk. I want this job so badly. I want
Speaker 1: this part of it. And so by thirty I like
Speaker 1: sitting there with having read the script and with these sides,
Speaker 1: and I love the show. I love the writing. I
Speaker 1: love the part so much. So I thought, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: skip the other audition. I won't read that one. Whatever
Speaker 1: that is goes in the garbage. And I read with
Speaker 1: dead b and Brett the Cash instructors at nine o'clock
Speaker 1: on a Friday morning, and they said, okay, can you
Speaker 1: come back at three to read with Bill's sign. And
Speaker 1: then one of our one of Jen's and my very
Speaker 1: very good friends husbands was in town for work and
Speaker 1: he had come over to visit us, and so him
Speaker 1: and Jen, Aaron Brindle and Jen read the read the
Speaker 1: sides with me, and so we just kept like running
Speaker 1: them and then I went and and audition with Phil
Speaker 1: at three. Auditions were like ten days later because they
Speaker 1: were still casting other people to go to studio and network.
Speaker 1: So then we did studio and then network. So there's
Speaker 1: four auditions and I were the same thing. I remember
Speaker 1: that about Sarah because the last two auditions we were
Speaker 1: there together. I remember that, and you wore the same
Speaker 1: jeans with the big gass belt and it had a
Speaker 1: big belt buckle. Am I right, Okay, I know the
Speaker 1: belt you're talking about. I went through a very big
Speaker 1: belt buckle collecting phase, so I had this old vintage
Speaker 1: leather belt and then I would switch out like a
Speaker 1: like an old Coca Cola belt buckle or like so
Speaker 1: I did wear not a lot, but in my memory,
Speaker 1: I don't know we could both either. I have no
Speaker 1: idea which one of us is right. But in my
Speaker 1: memory what I wore was I wore black boots that
Speaker 1: the heel, black pants and a tight black tank top.
Speaker 1: Because when I first moved to l A and I
Speaker 1: would go on these auditions, I remember I went out
Speaker 1: for an air and spelling during these like plaid funky
Speaker 1: bell bottoms that I thought really cool in this like
Speaker 1: vintage T shirt. I thought that I like super excited
Speaker 1: about the South, and I walked in and there were
Speaker 1: ten girls and they were all wearing tight black tank
Speaker 1: tops and tight black pants, and I thought, Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. Here, got it. I remember
Speaker 1: the jeans being blue. I do remember them being I
Speaker 1: thought they were tight as fun too. I remember being like,
Speaker 1: damn Jesus tight. I was the same. I was the
Speaker 1: same way, not with the tight jeans, but I the
Speaker 1: second I started getting callbacks, I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not washing this. I want my pheromones. I want
Speaker 1: my pheromones on it. I'm I'm not jinxing this thing.
Speaker 1: And I would get like another callback and be like
Speaker 1: not changing not I mean, I was just so towards
Speaker 1: the end, I remember I was like doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: I did that. When I would get up, I would
Speaker 1: sit in the chair, have a coffee. I would go
Speaker 1: to the treadmill do thirty minute. Like I had a
Speaker 1: whole regiment. I would listen to the same few songs
Speaker 1: before I went to the audition. I had a ritual.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what they were? Uh? Definitely Madonna. One
Speaker 1: of mine was changed by blind Melon. I love it?
Speaker 1: How does it? How is a melon? Blind? It will
Speaker 1: make no sense? Donald is the name of a very
Speaker 1: popular band. You might like their music. Let's circle back
Speaker 1: to se our audition process. I feel like probably, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing that Babies Got Back was another one of the songs. Wow,
Speaker 1: that really got you. Do you want to tell them
Speaker 1: your Baby Got backstory? Yeah? I was very impressed that
Speaker 1: you knew. I didn't know that song as well as
Speaker 1: you knew that song. For grad parent event, we had
Speaker 1: to do talent for the parents, and kids got up
Speaker 1: and played the violin and the piano, and ten of
Speaker 1: my girlfriends and I got up and danced and we
Speaker 1: had a whole routine. It was a bit sexual. I
Speaker 1: think that was kind of odd for the talent show.
Speaker 1: I think all of our parents were probably, like I
Speaker 1: asked them, I should like, what did you think when
Speaker 1: your child was up there at grad parent event? It
Speaker 1: seems like a very odd How old were you guys?
Speaker 1: We were in grade twelve, which is Canadian, right, so
Speaker 1: you're about to graduate. We were in grade twelve, which
Speaker 1: is Canadian for twelve grade. Yeah, So any who uh
Speaker 1: listened to my songs the hold BC lot and in
Speaker 1: the quarant clean up, I did find my sides from
Speaker 1: the Idit Little Visitors pass up save both of those.
Speaker 1: But I remember being in the parking lot and just
Speaker 1: like seat back in the car and lying there, and
Speaker 1: someone told me to do this. I've never told anyone this,
Speaker 1: but um two, visualize yourself walking into the audition, visualize
Speaker 1: the whole thing playing out, and visualize yourself walking out
Speaker 1: and it going really well. And um so I remember
Speaker 1: sitting in my car NBC parking lot, closed my eyes
Speaker 1: visualizing the whole thing. And then um and then Donald
Speaker 1: and I were in there together with some other Turks
Speaker 1: and some other Elliotts and some other j d s
Speaker 1: and and we basically all took turks going in and
Speaker 1: then they came back out. And then you go back
Speaker 1: in with this person and read together. And then they
Speaker 1: pair you up and you read together. And it was yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty nerve cracking. Let me ask you a question. Did
Speaker 1: you know any of the young ladies that were auditioning
Speaker 1: for your role? I knew both of the guys that
Speaker 1: were auditioning for Turk. I knew And not only did
Speaker 1: I know them, I knew them well too, Like I
Speaker 1: hung out with one of them, uh and we used
Speaker 1: to play a lot of basketball together. And then the
Speaker 1: other one we did a bunch of movies together, or
Speaker 1: we did a movie together, but I would see him
Speaker 1: out at the club all the time. Was it Denzel?
Speaker 1: I wish it was Denzel. I wish I could be
Speaker 1: like Deel, I got it, you Dzel, Denzel, this one's mine.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Sorry, buddy, You'll bounce back. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: So was that weird to sit there with kind of
Speaker 1: buddies or yeah, you know, it was very it was
Speaker 1: very weird, and it was It's also one of those
Speaker 1: things where it was like, you know, if one of
Speaker 1: these guys get it, I'm gonna freaking I'm gonna lose
Speaker 1: my ship, you know what I mean. Like as much
Speaker 1: as I love you guys, and as much as you
Speaker 1: know I have root for you guys, I want this
Speaker 1: so bad. I want this so bad I could I
Speaker 1: could taste it. Both very successful have gone on to
Speaker 1: do other things. I just really wanted Chris Turk bed Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you got it. I mean, so when you're sitting
Speaker 1: in that for people that are listening, when you're sitting
Speaker 1: in that position and you're going to suit, you're going
Speaker 1: to network, you don't have the part yet, and you
Speaker 1: sign a six year contract. They call it five plus one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, but isn't that six years?
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a contract lingo for. Don't tell them
Speaker 1: it's six years. We're gonna call it five plus one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five plus one. So you signed five plus one. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's always such a feeling of I mean,
Speaker 1: you're twenty four and you're thinking, wow, until I'm thirty,
Speaker 1: and in any other scenario that would kind of take
Speaker 1: your breath away. In this case, I was just like, yes,
Speaker 1: for the love of God, please a hundred years of
Speaker 1: doing this, Like there was no there was no two
Speaker 1: seconds of thinking about it. Was like I'm desperate and wow,
Speaker 1: if it could ever go, I would be grateful for
Speaker 1: as many years as it would go for. And that
Speaker 1: feeling of just complete signing that and so hopefully that happened. Anyways.
Speaker 1: Then Bill called me, uh the few ardly that day
Speaker 1: or it was the next day, it was very soon
Speaker 1: after the audition was either later that day or the
Speaker 1: next day, and I couldn't believe it. I think we
Speaker 1: all probably after reading that script, kind of felt like
Speaker 1: it was really something special and had the possibility of
Speaker 1: I mean, you obviously you never know, but the chance
Speaker 1: to go for a chime. As you know, Sarah, I
Speaker 1: did not read the script before we shot the pilot.
Speaker 1: I didn't read the script until the table read, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's what happens, dude. I didn't
Speaker 1: know it was a freaking dope pilot until my agent
Speaker 1: was like, dude, this is like a really big pilot.
Speaker 1: I never I never knew the trivia that you didn't
Speaker 1: read the script until the table read. I did not
Speaker 1: know that. Remember the Titans, I didn't know what happened
Speaker 1: in the script until the table read. I remember we
Speaker 1: did the dude, I just listen. I just knew only
Speaker 1: my stuff this. I was a kid, I was young. Listen.
Speaker 1: There would be times when we be shooting scrubs where
Speaker 1: you know, the whole script wasn't out yet, and you know,
Speaker 1: because the writers were behind, so we would we'd get scenes,
Speaker 1: but Bill would sort of explain what was going on,
Speaker 1: and you know, you shoot out of order. So we'd
Speaker 1: be like Monday morning, you know, time to rehearse, and
Speaker 1: Donald and I are like standing on a table and
Speaker 1: he whispered my amber, like, yo, yo, why are we
Speaker 1: standing on a table? He had no idea what was
Speaker 1: happening in the script. All right, we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: quick break, be right back with the legendary Sarah Chuk
Speaker 1: and we're back, and we're back. Sarah, tell us about it,
Speaker 1: just really quickly, really quickly. Before I tell you, I
Speaker 1: need to tell you. My favorite example of Donald not
Speaker 1: having read the c was during the auditions in the
Speaker 1: show when you're like, I can't remember what but we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be auditioning, and Neil and Sam Lloyd are
Speaker 1: auditioning you, and like, I remember you walked in and
Speaker 1: you you know, We're like, oh, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: could you read the actual script? You're like, I think
Speaker 1: I can you know, come up with a dance for that?
Speaker 1: And you know how to come up with a dance,
Speaker 1: and you just came up with on the spot, and
Speaker 1: you're such a fucking good dancer. You came up with
Speaker 1: this unbelievable dance to poison. And then like, my kids
Speaker 1: are all obsessed with the fact that it's the Fortnite
Speaker 1: dance now and they watch the Fortnite character do it. Besides,
Speaker 1: and they've all tried to learn it. We've tried to
Speaker 1: learn it. I can't learn it. I don't think I
Speaker 1: could even do it again. Listen, so that I just
Speaker 1: want to say the billing off what Sarah said. That's
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Sorry Sarah, that is the best example.
Speaker 1: Donald hadn't read the script and everyone loves that dance.
Speaker 1: People talk about it. It's the Fortnite dances everywhere. Donald
Speaker 1: literally showed up and was like, you want me to
Speaker 1: do what now? And he had to and he totally
Speaker 1: improvised that dance on the spot. Well, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of years of you know, I was a huge
Speaker 1: new edition fan, a huge Bell Bib Devot fan. I
Speaker 1: still am a huge new addition in Bell Bib Devot
Speaker 1: fan uh and Bobby Brown and Ralph Tresvant, all of them. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I had been dancing like that my whole life, pretty
Speaker 1: much since I was like and since ninety two, I
Speaker 1: was doing dances like that. And so when they were
Speaker 1: like we want you to dance to poison, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I know, I know some steps
Speaker 1: that I could do to that to everybody else, because
Speaker 1: I remember I was late that day. Everybody packed the
Speaker 1: room that day, and I know the pressure was on me,
Speaker 1: but I was like this is this is something that
Speaker 1: I do all the time. Now, there are other times
Speaker 1: where I didn't prepare when we were doing the show,
Speaker 1: and it cost us like hours of filming Donald. Remember
Speaker 1: I was I was directing once and Donald had a
Speaker 1: paragraph of medical jargon, like a really hard a paragraph
Speaker 1: you would anyone would have to practice a lot because
Speaker 1: it was like fast medical jargon and like five sentences.
Speaker 1: And I was directing and just Donald could not get
Speaker 1: it because he hadn't even looked at it. It's not
Speaker 1: something you could do on the spot. And I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're directing a scene, you normally start
Speaker 1: with the widest shots and then you start moving into
Speaker 1: closer and closer angles. And I was like, Donald, we
Speaker 1: gotta move on, dude, I don't worry. We'll cut it together.
Speaker 1: We cut it together. By the time we got to
Speaker 1: like an extreme close up of Donald's face, like eyebrowed
Speaker 1: a chin, he finally got it. And if you watched
Speaker 1: that episode, like Donald does the whole monologue and a
Speaker 1: shot that's like this type, because that was finally the
Speaker 1: only time you ever got it. Those days are over,
Speaker 1: by the way. Just anybody who's looking to hire me
Speaker 1: for any thing. Yeah, I am not like that anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't worry. I'm sure no. No casting directors are
Speaker 1: directors are listening to our podcast. But what Zach was
Speaker 1: saying about, you know, getting the script sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: as the season would get towards the end, and the
Speaker 1: writers were so taxed trying to crank out these scripts
Speaker 1: that were so funny. I remember one morning we got
Speaker 1: to work on a Monday morning and it was the
Speaker 1: week that my character had the voice over, because each
Speaker 1: of our characters had a voice over for one time,
Speaker 1: and they didn't have the script out yet, but we
Speaker 1: had to start shooting something, and so they said, we're
Speaker 1: just going to do a long kind of steady cam
Speaker 1: shot following you through the hallways, and I just want
Speaker 1: you to change your face around to go with different
Speaker 1: emotions and things you're going to write. So just you know,
Speaker 1: you're walking and you're thinking, like a little bit happy
Speaker 1: and you're a little bit sad, and then you're thinking
Speaker 1: about something not for two hours, just me and a
Speaker 1: steady camp like that's funny that they probably had to
Speaker 1: eventually write to your expressions because they were changing, because
Speaker 1: then they didn't and the camera didn't want to cut away,
Speaker 1: so it's like, okay, wait, she's about it. Got a
Speaker 1: second of seriousness and then a smile, so like we
Speaker 1: needed one second sentence and then it's something to smile about,
Speaker 1: and then looking a little nostalgic and all right, should
Speaker 1: we go into this episode? This is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite episodes. This is one of my favorite episodes of
Speaker 1: the whole nine years. It really is special and I
Speaker 1: want you to know I haven't seen it in in
Speaker 1: twenty years, and I got goose bumps multiple times watching it.
Speaker 1: That's how it really does hold up. I was about,
Speaker 1: there's some really great moments in this show, in particular
Speaker 1: with you, Sarah. This this you know, I I looked
Speaker 1: at this show when I first when we first did
Speaker 1: this show, I was like, oh wow, we all get
Speaker 1: a chance to shine here. But this was a moment
Speaker 1: I feel like for you and for Judy as well,
Speaker 1: where you guys. You guys really crushed this episode. Like
Speaker 1: it's really fucking good, Like you two alone, you you
Speaker 1: and Judy alone, Like really, I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but you guys start off on a you know, as adversaries,
Speaker 1: and by the end of it, your friends and that's
Speaker 1: for half an hour. To be able to tell a
Speaker 1: story like that's very difficult to to to start two
Speaker 1: people off his enemies, especially when the narrative so far
Speaker 1: in the show has been you guys not getting along.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, it really is a testament to
Speaker 1: how good you are as an actress that you guys
Speaker 1: were able to not only bring the funny, but bring
Speaker 1: the drama and then also bring the connection so that
Speaker 1: the story tracks all the way through. And I just
Speaker 1: wanted to give you props on that straight up, right out,
Speaker 1: you know the bat. And also it was so early
Speaker 1: on in the show too, it was episode four, and
Speaker 1: so for us to be able to jump in and
Speaker 1: tell such a good story, it's really a testament to
Speaker 1: how good First of all, Matt Tarsa is Holy ship,
Speaker 1: what a good writer. Matt Sarsas wrote it. And we
Speaker 1: should also say that this was the first episode not
Speaker 1: directed by Adam Bernstein, and it was the first episode
Speaker 1: directed by Mark Buckland, who really added a lot of
Speaker 1: cool style. You know, we've spoken about how Adam Bernstein
Speaker 1: really developed the language of how the camera moves and
Speaker 1: scrubs and how you could do some trick shots and
Speaker 1: how there was a lot of creativity. The camera was
Speaker 1: a character in the show, and Mark Buckling, I think
Speaker 1: with this episode, really took that and ran with it
Speaker 1: and added a lot of a new language to to
Speaker 1: the way the show was shot. And Bernstein, Um, it
Speaker 1: should be said, directed the Baby's Got Back video in
Speaker 1: case anyone out there does not know that that that is.
Speaker 1: That is beautiful trivia there for you Scrubs fans. Sarah
Speaker 1: can do the full dance and knows all the lyrics
Speaker 1: the Babies Got Back And coincidentally, was it sir mix
Speaker 1: a lot? Yes, it is sir mix a lot. Music
Speaker 1: video was directed by Adam Bernstein. There you go. That's
Speaker 1: not on your scrubs Wicky, Right, thank you told you, wicky, Wicky,
Speaker 1: we got it from here. Well, first of all, Donald,
Speaker 1: thank you for saying all those nice things. I felt
Speaker 1: the same way about you guys. Like I was like going, like, wow,
Speaker 1: Donald's ack fucking nail in this episode and it's like
Speaker 1: we just started, like we were a few weeks in.
Speaker 1: It was that fourth episode, but was the third one
Speaker 1: that we shot in that chunk you know, separated out
Speaker 1: from the pilot, and like I feel like Bill had
Speaker 1: told us a long time ago that he didn't he
Speaker 1: say to the network, We're gonna set it up one
Speaker 1: out of every three patients die here and you're kind
Speaker 1: of waiting the whole episode to find out who it's
Speaker 1: going to be, and then they all die. I feel
Speaker 1: like he said that in the network and they said, no,
Speaker 1: you can only have one patient die, and he said, no,
Speaker 1: it's going to be all three. But we have to
Speaker 1: do that. We're coming out of the gate right now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna show the audience that this is what the
Speaker 1: show is. And all those years on Scrubs, this one,
Speaker 1: for me absolutely is the one that stands out whenever
Speaker 1: I think of the show as being the one that
Speaker 1: really shows the responsibility that's put on these young, young,
Speaker 1: young doctors. I mean, my little sister isn't her first
Speaker 1: year right now of being a real doctor. What a
Speaker 1: crazy time in the world to be doing that. Um,
Speaker 1: and I can't believe her stories. I can't believe what
Speaker 1: level of responsibility that they're given right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'll be at work on set
Speaker 1: and I'm on lunch, and I come back from lunch
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, she's just been doing CPR
Speaker 1: on someone for thirty minutes, trying to save them, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I was just in here and makeup
Speaker 1: touch ups and they took the same curl and recurled
Speaker 1: it again to make it curly like it just it's
Speaker 1: such as it takes your breath away. Really, what the
Speaker 1: decisions young doctors have to make? It? Do you think
Speaker 1: your sister was inspired by you? And it's interesting, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of younger sisters might be inspired to
Speaker 1: that their older sister was a real doctor, But because
Speaker 1: she grew up with you playing this character, do you
Speaker 1: did she think that that inspired her at all? Oh?
Speaker 1: I tried to get my Remember, I'd say to my
Speaker 1: family like, hey, guys, like, did you see you know
Speaker 1: I was so excited about the show. I've like you've seen.
Speaker 1: They were like, well, we t voted because it's on
Speaker 1: the same time as twenty four But that Jack Bauer,
Speaker 1: Like what he did? You know? They I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's thirteen years younger than me, and I
Speaker 1: would like to think that I had that kind of influence,
Speaker 1: But really she came out of the womb a doctor.
Speaker 1: I mean she the stories are crazy and yeah, she
Speaker 1: she was just so interested in medicine from such a
Speaker 1: young age and really so calm under pressure, like I remember,
Speaker 1: just just responsible. I mean I remember we went on
Speaker 1: a road trip and she'd had her license for maybe
Speaker 1: two weeks, and my dad was like, so she's gonna drive, right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, Dad, I've been I've been driving
Speaker 1: for thirteen and a years. He's like, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: so she's gonna drive right. Like she just is just
Speaker 1: a much more responsible human. But it definitely has been
Speaker 1: interesting just rewatching a couple, Like just last night, we're
Speaker 1: watching a couple of early episodes and thinking them, thinking
Speaker 1: about them just in the context of of her and
Speaker 1: and this one in particular, because it's pretty it's pretty unbelievable,
Speaker 1: as you know, you see j D and Elliott and
Speaker 1: Turk and the pressure that is on them and just
Speaker 1: all of all of it, like trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, what, what calls they can make on their
Speaker 1: own and when to go for help. Here's a little
Speaker 1: bit more Scrubs trivia. Your a little sister taught my
Speaker 1: eighteen year old, when he was probably nine to ten
Speaker 1: months at this time, how to walk. That's right on
Speaker 1: the third floor of the hospital right in between our
Speaker 1: dressing rooms. That's so crazy. And now she's an adult
Speaker 1: and she's taking care of patients. Wow, is she on
Speaker 1: the front line right now? She is. I think about
Speaker 1: her mostly every minute. We can pots and pans every night,
Speaker 1: all of us, and my three year old is broken
Speaker 1: a couple of measuring cups because she gets so into it.
Speaker 1: That's very what you do. It as like an honor
Speaker 1: to the healthcare workers. Yeah, so it's it's really cool. Actually, everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody goes out on there on the everybody goes outside
Speaker 1: at like seven o'clock and just eggs the pots and
Speaker 1: pans and screams and cheers. Oh. I like that. I
Speaker 1: want my neighborhood. I want my neighborhood to do that.
Speaker 1: I I we need a primal scream started. It's so cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just seguing back to the show, I want to just
Speaker 1: say that, Um, you'll hear us at a minute seconds
Speaker 1: there's there's really cool steadicamp shot that really kind of
Speaker 1: sets up the tone of the show. You'll hear us
Speaker 1: talk about the word stead came a lot on on
Speaker 1: this and if you don't know what it is, it's
Speaker 1: a it's like it's a way of mounting the camera
Speaker 1: on a on an operator's body so that the operator
Speaker 1: can move around and the camera just feels like it's
Speaker 1: floating around. And it's something that was used extensively on
Speaker 1: the Scrubs set as we traveled on the hallways. But
Speaker 1: I pointed out, as I was talking about Mark Buckling
Speaker 1: and director's style, how I like this sort of way
Speaker 1: he's introducing that this episode is going to be about
Speaker 1: the three of us, where the camera starts on me
Speaker 1: and then it and then it goes to Sarah and
Speaker 1: it never it never cuts, and then it goes by
Speaker 1: the children, then it comes up to Donald as he
Speaker 1: comes into the room, and and uh, I just thought
Speaker 1: that was kind of an early example of something that
Speaker 1: we did ended up doing a lot of of of
Speaker 1: sort of moving around the hallways without cutting a lot. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: if I don't know if you guys noticed about the
Speaker 1: hospital is really dark in this episode. Yeah, the lights
Speaker 1: aren't on really everything's you know, it's very very dark
Speaker 1: in this episode. Not only that, here's another thing it's
Speaker 1: jumping ahead, but is one of the first times where
Speaker 1: Kelso isn't the bad guy on the show. Also, what
Speaker 1: I've noticed is that when we're dealing with something like
Speaker 1: that's as powerful or as strong as death, it's us
Speaker 1: versus the hospital. If you've noticed that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the it's the cast verse versus death.
Speaker 1: And in this one, Kelso gives is a mentor in
Speaker 1: this one. He gives really good advice in this one
Speaker 1: to j D. And he's not the obstacle. He's the
Speaker 1: one that's actually trying to help solve the problems in
Speaker 1: this Now, if you watch other episodes, he's never really
Speaker 1: liked that, you know what I mean. He's always he's
Speaker 1: always the bad guy. This was the first episode, well
Speaker 1: obviously the first episode in the run, but this is
Speaker 1: the first episode that I can remember where I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: Kelso was on board with us this whole time. I
Speaker 1: like what you pointed out to about the lighting because
Speaker 1: traditionally in in half hour TV comedy everything so he's bright,
Speaker 1: there's like this unwritten rule that for it to be funny,
Speaker 1: it's out of you bright. And and again just challenging
Speaker 1: some of the conventions. In this episode, both John and Wood,
Speaker 1: the cinematographer, and Mark Buckland did things like have have
Speaker 1: it been in dark rooms, you know, having some of
Speaker 1: the dramatic moments like an I see you later happened
Speaker 1: in in you know, at at night or or or
Speaker 1: at sundown, which I thought, was I agree, that was
Speaker 1: something I hadn't I had noticed that was this is
Speaker 1: the first time they did that. Yeah, it carries on
Speaker 1: throughout the series two Yeah, at two six we meet
Speaker 1: Katherine Juston playing Mrs Tanner. Now she is such an
Speaker 1: was she has since passed away, but it was such
Speaker 1: an extraordinary actress. And I remember she had just done
Speaker 1: a very high profile run on the West Wing where
Speaker 1: that character had passed away as well, and I remember thinking, well,
Speaker 1: is that going to be odd that she's coming onto
Speaker 1: our I mean, I'm glad she's coming on because she's
Speaker 1: a wonderful actress, but having just played someone else who
Speaker 1: who died. I think. I just remember that being in
Speaker 1: my head, like she had just done such a hope,
Speaker 1: high profile moment on on West Wing. Um. But then
Speaker 1: the second I started working with her, I I just
Speaker 1: felt in awe of her, of her talent. That was
Speaker 1: the furthest thing from my mind. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: moments in the episode when she says, are you a
Speaker 1: good doctor, and you say it's probably too soon to tell, Like,
Speaker 1: I do you feel like it's such a such an
Speaker 1: example of how the show walked that line of like
Speaker 1: you're just on the edge of your seat and you're
Speaker 1: crying and then you're laughing. And there's a few moments. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of moments that I laughed my ass.
Speaker 1: When j D goes to the park to meet up
Speaker 1: with her and he's like, you gotta get your ass
Speaker 1: back to the hospital, and then he's like, is that
Speaker 1: some moores? And then they cut away and then they
Speaker 1: cut back and he's still chastising her, but now he's
Speaker 1: got chocolate all on his lips. Yeah, j D was
Speaker 1: not going to pass up a s'mores moment. Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Do you think he could have felt a
Speaker 1: big cake? J D was not. J D was trying.
Speaker 1: It's perfect j D thing to be like really trying
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously with s'more's chocolate over Alliver's lips
Speaker 1: and they're One of my favorite laughout low moments is
Speaker 1: when Donald is doing the workout video, which is foreshadowing
Speaker 1: the Poison Dance a little bit, because you're dancing in
Speaker 1: the very same room and and a little bit and
Speaker 1: some and some sweet moves that I guarantee you we're
Speaker 1: not in the eighties workout video, but like she had
Speaker 1: such energy and work. Dude. The Women League of Women
Speaker 1: Voters called and they want to know where to send
Speaker 1: your membership. Sarah tell us about I'm a tell us
Speaker 1: about I'm a Chunky Monkey from Funkytown because I remember that,
Speaker 1: and I just was like, who wrote that? That is
Speaker 1: the most random thing in the world. I guess Matt
Speaker 1: Tarsis or who knows. But was the idea that you
Speaker 1: were just testing out? Elliott was just testing out that
Speaker 1: she could say anything in front of a woman. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I think so, Yes, obviously to Carla's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of trivia in this episode because
Speaker 1: we we introduced characters that from that moment on weren't
Speaker 1: on the show anymore. Like I remember Layla Lee, she
Speaker 1: plays the surgeon in the room with Dr Wynn and Turk.
Speaker 1: She was really good. I had the same reaction. I
Speaker 1: was like, what happened her? She was, yeah, So I
Speaker 1: do know the story. I remember we were filming and
Speaker 1: it was a couple of episodes in and she was
Speaker 1: gonna come back as my nemesis. And she was saying
Speaker 1: how she had just got this part on a television
Speaker 1: show that was gonna take her out of California, or
Speaker 1: not out of California, but out of the Los Angeles area,
Speaker 1: and she was gonna go do that instead. And I
Speaker 1: remember being like, but what about us? What about what
Speaker 1: about what we've got going? This is so funny, And
Speaker 1: she was like, you know, I'm a guest star on
Speaker 1: this show, but on the other show I would be
Speaker 1: a lead. And so she went and took the other job.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, remember what the show was.
Speaker 1: It was Tremors. It was a syndicated version of Tremors,
Speaker 1: and I remember it ran for a while and I
Speaker 1: and the dad from Family Ties, I think is on it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I just remember watching that scene which
Speaker 1: will get too later in the episode, and and you
Speaker 1: guys had such a funny banter that that's spoofing of
Speaker 1: of a couple driving together. And then I had the
Speaker 1: same thought. I go, oh that that that young woman
Speaker 1: was so funny. What happened to her? And I guess
Speaker 1: she got her own show at the time. She got
Speaker 1: well Yeah, she got a job and went on to
Speaker 1: do other things to other people of Scrub's lore who
Speaker 1: were introduced in this episode UM seven fifty nine very quickly.
Speaker 1: If you watched Danny Rose killed assistant, that obviously became
Speaker 1: pretty sure on the show. He walks by in the
Speaker 1: park and he has tankers and tankers was what a
Speaker 1: big bulldog that he? Yeah, and I just we have
Speaker 1: to talk about the legendary Mike Schwartz, who plays his
Speaker 1: very first appearance, very first appearance. A lot of times
Speaker 1: we're watching these episodes and I forget that some of
Speaker 1: these people were introduced so early. So Mike Schwartz was
Speaker 1: one of the writers on the show, very funny comedy writer,
Speaker 1: and he plays the delivery guy, the ups guy if
Speaker 1: you will that uh is first they established him giving
Speaker 1: something to Kelso and then later he comes and delivers
Speaker 1: the ton of bricks to me. He is he We
Speaker 1: had so many laughs with that guy. Huh oh my god.
Speaker 1: He's constantly doing bits and making us all laugh. Like
Speaker 1: he walked by him in the hallway and he'd be like,
Speaker 1: what's that, let's Jay crew. He would do this. He
Speaker 1: would do this bit that I don't know why it
Speaker 1: was so funny. But he would go he would pretend
Speaker 1: to call off to someone that wasn't there, and he
Speaker 1: would and he would do a bit where he was
Speaker 1: pretending that they were asking him who made his shirt,
Speaker 1: and so he'd be reaching for the tag he be what,
Speaker 1: oh hold on, let me Oh yeah, it's Jay Crew
Speaker 1: And it was so stupid, but he was talking to
Speaker 1: no one and you would laugh every single time, every
Speaker 1: time in the world where you tap him on the
Speaker 1: shoulder and be like, We ended up putting that in
Speaker 1: the show. Definitely. He went on to be the was
Speaker 1: he the drummer for the for the air band that
Speaker 1: same episode that we were talking about. He liked his
Speaker 1: character like a later episodes we learned that his character
Speaker 1: like speed metal right and and and that his character
Speaker 1: was a big time like drug addict and everything like
Speaker 1: then was always I and he was very lonely. But
Speaker 1: that that bit about that was his bit where you
Speaker 1: if he no one touched him, so if you ever
Speaker 1: did graze his shoulder, he would cad coddle his own
Speaker 1: shoulder because he was so low. He was so lonely
Speaker 1: and lacking of touch, lonely, this guy in the world
Speaker 1: and then Randall Winston is introduced as Death. Randall Winston
Speaker 1: was our line producer on the show. And uh, for
Speaker 1: those who don't know, a line producer is the producer
Speaker 1: that really is handling the sort of the daily money
Speaker 1: of things, really like the guy with the spreadsheet being
Speaker 1: like we can afford that, we can't afford that. And
Speaker 1: he was a very he was he is a very
Speaker 1: tall man. How how tall would you say? He is?
Speaker 1: Six seven or six six? Yeah, and so he he
Speaker 1: was established early on as as death and death throughout
Speaker 1: the whole run. Yes, And some of you are too
Speaker 1: young to know that what this joke is about. Connect four,
Speaker 1: but Connect four was was a game from but I'm
Speaker 1: saying they didn't have the cheesy ad. She's the add
Speaker 1: in the eighties was a brother and sister playing and
Speaker 1: the sister wins and the brother goes pretty sneaky sis.
Speaker 1: Remember that, you guys can look it up on YouTube.
Speaker 1: And so that's why we were spoofing that old eighties
Speaker 1: ad where I go pretty sneaky Death. But you gotta
Speaker 1: do the lead up to it is I win where
Speaker 1: I don't see it right here diagonally, pretty sneaky sis,
Speaker 1: Pretty sneaky Sis and Randall is. His main belief was
Speaker 1: that it's not a party unless both hands are in
Speaker 1: the air. So we had the most incredible rap parties
Speaker 1: and shows. We had great parties man and Randall and
Speaker 1: Randall is like some of the highlights of every part,
Speaker 1: like the some of the best party highlights that I've
Speaker 1: ever experienced involved Randall. Fortunately for us, the guys ending
Speaker 1: the money for the party really loved the party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had some good parties. I'm sure there's episodes where
Speaker 1: they were like, you don't need that set, we're throwing
Speaker 1: a party. Why Johnny sees um home space looked very
Speaker 1: sparse because we needed to go to us Why God,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about that. How Johnny see. They
Speaker 1: didn't get around to Johnny sees a building, Johnny Sea's apartment.
Speaker 1: It was just a hospital set. But I think Randall spearheaded.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that like we got to we got to
Speaker 1: go on a that crazy, amazing trip everybody to Vegas.
Speaker 1: We had to do like they were able to kind
Speaker 1: of combine a press event with the Scrubs wrap party,
Speaker 1: and so they organized it so like our whole cap
Speaker 1: went to Vegas altogether. Because that will never happen ever.
Speaker 1: In Never Again, I doubt any show is taking their
Speaker 1: whole company to Vegas to throw a batch. Those those
Speaker 1: of the old days. Yeah, when we got to shoot
Speaker 1: a whole season in the Bahamas with the whole critize episode,
Speaker 1: Sarah may have stayed and shot a season. What is
Speaker 1: the season? Donald? I want to know the sports question,
Speaker 1: and I want you to be honest. Yes, did you
Speaker 1: know what the quote unquote catch was? Absolutely about it.
Speaker 1: It's a famous thing that sports people know about. Absolutely
Speaker 1: so Joe Montana. It looked like he couldn't throw it
Speaker 1: to anyone in this game. Now, granted I don't know
Speaker 1: who who uh they were playing, so when we're talking
Speaker 1: about it in the show, I didn't know who they
Speaker 1: were playing. But he found Dwight Clark in the end
Speaker 1: zone and it was you know, it's one of the
Speaker 1: biggest catches in history. As a matter of fact, it's
Speaker 1: a part of a commercial, like a Gatorade commercial or
Speaker 1: something like that. And that's how I first heard about
Speaker 1: it because I wasn't a big football fan growing up.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't become a football fan until later
Speaker 1: on in life. But yes, I didn't know when we
Speaker 1: did the when when they referenced the catch, I knew
Speaker 1: exactly what it was, Okay, good because I didn't know
Speaker 1: because I I don't know anything about sports. If like
Speaker 1: everyone who's into sports knows, oh, the catch, it's called
Speaker 1: the catch. Well, I mean at that time it was
Speaker 1: called the catch. I'm sure since then they're like Eli
Speaker 1: Manning and Mario Manningham they have uh, you know how
Speaker 1: he found him on the you know, running down this
Speaker 1: it's it's I didn't know when or where the catch was,
Speaker 1: but I had heard of the reference before Donald tell
Speaker 1: us about the bowling thing, because I was laughing at this, going,
Speaker 1: what are those what are those pins? Like? What is
Speaker 1: that supposed to be in the hospital? Those scie things.
Speaker 1: First of all, this this is a testament for how
Speaker 1: immature Christopher Turk was. So the kid says to him, hey,
Speaker 1: it's the catch. Turk turns around, goes, yeah, I'll watched
Speaker 1: the catch with you, and within fifteen minutes he's bowling
Speaker 1: a kid down the hospital hall. Like, how did this
Speaker 1: kid convince Like, that's how weak willed Chris Turk is.
Speaker 1: How in the hell did this kid convince him to
Speaker 1: put him in a wheelchair and push him down the
Speaker 1: hall into a bunch of I guess they were recycling bins.
Speaker 1: Is that what they were supposed to be? I think so,
Speaker 1: because to me they looked like cardboard tubes. That someone right,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that it was a recycling but but like,
Speaker 1: how did this kid convince him and the rest of
Speaker 1: the floor, Like Chris Turk walked out the room and
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is what we're going to all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him in a wheel chair. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I just started. I know, I just started
Speaker 1: as a doctor here, but I'm gonna roll a patient
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair down the hall. If you're a new doctor,
Speaker 1: don't try that at work, please. Well, that that was
Speaker 1: and that was the great thing about the show. Also
Speaker 1: is that he was held accountable for it, you know,
Speaker 1: uh Kelseo right away. And this is where Kelseo mentors
Speaker 1: kind of also like, we're not here to make friends,
Speaker 1: We're here to treat these patients. Dude, be a doctor.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the park Sarahy reference that already,
Speaker 1: but I remember feeling really bad at nine minutes and
Speaker 1: thirty seconds slamming that little girl's face into the cake.
Speaker 1: That was hilarious. I wish I could do that to
Speaker 1: my kids sometimes. It was funny. I mean it was
Speaker 1: funny on paper. When we got there and she has
Speaker 1: that cute little face, and I was like, so, you
Speaker 1: guys really want me to jam this girl's face into
Speaker 1: a cake. And they're like, yeah, you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: You can't just like fake it. You gotta do it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, and I talked to her. I
Speaker 1: was like, sweetie, are you okay with this? And she's like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be funny. And I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: here we going. I just jammed her head and it
Speaker 1: felt really nice. Yeah, Sarah can attest to this. She
Speaker 1: has children. As much as we love our children, sometimes
Speaker 1: you want to just send their face into a cake,
Speaker 1: especially going to be quarantining for the near multiple multiple
Speaker 1: days months. If I had the opportunity and I knew
Speaker 1: my wife wouldn't be piste off at me for doing it,
Speaker 1: Rocco's face would have been slammed into a couple of
Speaker 1: its birthday cake, into many a cake. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: put that out there right now, and might need to
Speaker 1: go bake a couple of cakes. Were break and we
Speaker 1: come back. We have a caller. All right, we're getting
Speaker 1: good at that whole break thing. Joel Um. We're very
Speaker 1: lucky here on this show, Sarah Chalk that we get
Speaker 1: to take a call or once an episode. And here
Speaker 1: she is. What's your? What's your? Alexis Torres? Donald just
Speaker 1: gave you an Oprah intro election. I was looking for
Speaker 1: your name. And the good thing about zoom is it
Speaker 1: just says it right there, Alexis Torres, plumbly right there
Speaker 1: on the bottom. Don't ruin the woman's hearing she's in quarantine.
Speaker 1: I'm actually in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania right now in the house.
Speaker 1: My family has a steakhouse nearby called the Glass Lounge. Oh.
Speaker 1: I haven't gone there yet, but it's awesome. When you
Speaker 1: go there, I I want you to tell them I
Speaker 1: sent you. If you're in there, if you're in that area,
Speaker 1: go to the good It's gonna be a wild buddy,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild. Oh yeah, not now, obviously, but
Speaker 1: you know when when this nightmare is over, go check
Speaker 1: out the Glass Lounge. Yeah. I will definitely go for
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. And do you have a question.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be Sarah Chalk focused. It doesn't
Speaker 1: just because she's want to understand human and she probably
Speaker 1: knows the best person to talk to it. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Not just kidding, UM, I have actually technically
Speaker 1: question for all of you guys, Um, if you could
Speaker 1: switch roles with anyone in the series, any character, who
Speaker 1: would it be and how would you play their character?
Speaker 1: Would it be different than how it was originally played?
Speaker 1: Or that's a very good question. Go first. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it meant that I could have Donald's dancing skills?
Speaker 1: Was the fantasy? Was that fantasy that Sarah and I
Speaker 1: were making out and I was making out with you
Speaker 1: because she was you? My god, I can start off
Speaker 1: where you guys are making out and then she's like
Speaker 1: you fantasize about kissing Turkis now, didn't you? And then
Speaker 1: I made up with Mandy Moore as myself. You were
Speaker 1: Mandy was dressed up as herself. Many was just herself
Speaker 1: and you were dressed up as me. I think, right,
Speaker 1: I think that was a really beautiful moment and television
Speaker 1: history right there. To make out to make out with
Speaker 1: Judy in the pilot. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we just
Speaker 1: watched that where you made out with the model girl.
Speaker 1: Is that the pilot or is that the second episode?
Speaker 1: Was the second episode? But so you'd like to be
Speaker 1: Donald if you could be anybody else, is what you're saying. Well,
Speaker 1: if I can do that fucking poison dance or rowdy,
Speaker 1: that would be pretty low about It's a very good question.
Speaker 1: I guess, um Ill it's funny because you don't want
Speaker 1: to pick. You want to have some screen time, right,
Speaker 1: you want to pick one of the seven, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna have some good screen time. I think I would
Speaker 1: choose Johnny c just because, um he had such amazing
Speaker 1: and they just knew how to write for him so
Speaker 1: amazing well, and he he was just uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that I just love the all the material
Speaker 1: they gave Johnny. So I think that would be a
Speaker 1: really challenging fun part to even attempt to do walking
Speaker 1: around in banana hammock. That's who I was going to pick.
Speaker 1: If I could pick anybody, I guess it would be
Speaker 1: Mashi uh because if I could get but like we
Speaker 1: we teased, we used to make fun of mash you
Speaker 1: about running line and everything like that. But I had
Speaker 1: such a hard time learning my lines back then that
Speaker 1: I probably it probably would have suited me to play
Speaker 1: mash to. You know, the first thing, like the first
Speaker 1: step to a solving memorizing your line style is to
Speaker 1: actually just do it, or to read the script, actually
Speaker 1: read the script. I love how you're always like, I
Speaker 1: just have such a hard time and rossing lines. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: you've been playing PlayStation in your pressing room. That's all
Speaker 1: I looked looked at it. Yeah, okay, right, do you
Speaker 1: have another question? Another question? We're gonna answer a better one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your question sucked. That's what I just said. You like creative,
Speaker 1: it was, it was thoughtful. I think you're spectacular and
Speaker 1: I love Harrisburg, but I think you got a better
Speaker 1: question than you. No, I don't know. No, Now you
Speaker 1: gotta ask, um, what was something that you were super
Speaker 1: proud of back then that you did. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: a scene or a specific joke or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But then now since you guys are doing the rewatch
Speaker 1: and you've seen it, now you're kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: that wasn't as good as I remember a question. As guests,
Speaker 1: you have to go first. Jesus. The pressure, I feel like,
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, like you're like, I feel like interesting enough.
Speaker 1: I was just freaking amazing. I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 1: thought you were amazing. Like the early stuff a little
Speaker 1: bit hard, harder to watch. I feel like I learned
Speaker 1: so much on the show. I feel like I learned
Speaker 1: so much from Bail, I learned so much from the
Speaker 1: rest of the cast. And I feel like it's so
Speaker 1: different watching those earlier episodes and eight years later, certainly
Speaker 1: with Elliott to the character changed a lot. Like in
Speaker 1: the pilot, we even did reshoots, she was much harder
Speaker 1: and much you know, there was she was a bit
Speaker 1: more of a beach in the in the in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and then and then we actually did a couple of
Speaker 1: reshoots so soften her. And then I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the line between me and her started to blur. It's
Speaker 1: the first part of your question, what were you the
Speaker 1: most proud of? Certainly, interestingly enough, it's this is definitely
Speaker 1: one of those episodes like when I think back on
Speaker 1: the eight years, this is the first one to pop
Speaker 1: into my mind about just the kind of show that
Speaker 1: that Scrubs was, and and um, and then in terms
Speaker 1: of things to do differently, well, that's just I mean Sarah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you could have done everything differently. I
Speaker 1: wish that I could go back and um and have
Speaker 1: a chin, because this episode starts with the least flattering
Speaker 1: view of my non existent chin, and and in later
Speaker 1: episodes I would I would look at the director and
Speaker 1: be like, bro, don't shoot me like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing the best I can with what
Speaker 1: I have, but that's not the angle I want for myself.
Speaker 1: And and Bill, I don't know how many listeners know this,
Speaker 1: but Bill would like to add things that were actual,
Speaker 1: real physical attributes and write them into the show. So
Speaker 1: characters would be named by their physical attributes. So like
Speaker 1: the guy with the beard is beard for say, because
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and so so for me, my character,
Speaker 1: you know, you had to say lines like short hair
Speaker 1: gives me pig face, which is not untrue, um and
Speaker 1: uh and or there was one where I had my
Speaker 1: characters like, yeah, chin hairs back because I have this
Speaker 1: mole where three hairs grow out of it. And so
Speaker 1: that was actually written into the show. By the way,
Speaker 1: my son said to me a few years ago, completely seriously.
Speaker 1: He's like, Mama, I have terrible news. And I said
Speaker 1: what and he goes, you're growing a beard. So so
Speaker 1: there were definitely moments of the show where he just
Speaker 1: had to go okay, all in the name of comedy
Speaker 1: and so air out my biggest insecurities. And you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of how it worked too, like Bill would
Speaker 1: come up and he would watch us, and this is
Speaker 1: not common for every you know, creator of a show
Speaker 1: to come up for every single rehearsal. He would come
Speaker 1: up from you know, to the to the set from
Speaker 1: the writer's room. In the writer's room was in another
Speaker 1: wing of the hospital. He would tweak a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: He would say, I actually don't love this blocking. I
Speaker 1: think how I had it in my head was X
Speaker 1: Y or Z and um. And he would he would
Speaker 1: he would tweak our performance and our jokes to to
Speaker 1: the point where, like a lot of times I think
Speaker 1: actors like don't like a line read. And I just
Speaker 1: had so much respect for him. I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just if you've got some way in your head, just
Speaker 1: you know, tell us we'll do it right. Yeah, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, Alexis. Are you gonna give her?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna give you the Oprah? Goodbye? Send off?
Speaker 1: As well done. Let's say goodbye to Alexis Torres plan.
Speaker 1: You get a car, You get a car, You get
Speaker 1: a car, Alexis, we cannot give you a car. I
Speaker 1: know it's okay. I can't go anywhere anyway, anywhere, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: going state. When this is all said and done at
Speaker 1: the Glass Lounge, all right, thank you so much, Alexis. Alexis,
Speaker 1: you guys. One of my biggest regrets in the history
Speaker 1: of Scrubs is that I flinch right before those bricks
Speaker 1: fall on me. And I remember Bill being so disappointed
Speaker 1: in me because there were like four takes of it
Speaker 1: and I flinched every time. But it's pretty tricky to
Speaker 1: not flinch when you know a bunch of I know
Speaker 1: that they're not real bricks, but it still was noticeably uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I mean it would be pretty hard not to, especially,
Speaker 1: I feel like all that ship like, even if it
Speaker 1: was like a major prop fall or something, once you've
Speaker 1: done it once, I feel like our best chance out
Speaker 1: of the gate is on your first take, because the
Speaker 1: second you've done it, once you know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: you know the feeling of it. Maybe you like tweak
Speaker 1: something a little bit in your shoulder and then it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's around. But this was early on in
Speaker 1: the show and I and I and I was I
Speaker 1: was really loving doing physical comedy, and I always love
Speaker 1: physical comedy, referenced John Ridder. I mean when I grew
Speaker 1: up on Threes Company, and I just thought that John
Speaker 1: Ridder was the funniest person I've ever seen, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be like him. And Bill was giving me
Speaker 1: lots of love for my physical comedy. And this was
Speaker 1: the first moment where he like called me in the
Speaker 1: editors and he's like, dude, you flinched on every take.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, you blew it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I let Daddy down, fucking blew it. The
Speaker 1: first time I was called up by by Bill after
Speaker 1: he left the editing room was you guys will remember
Speaker 1: the ah we had been so lucky to get nominated
Speaker 1: for an Emmy and we were going and we were
Speaker 1: excited and I got to borrow this fancy dress and
Speaker 1: the stylist I've never had a stylist before, and she said,
Speaker 1: so you need to go get it and I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: get a tan and she said, okay, go get a
Speaker 1: spray tan, and so I said, okay. So I think
Speaker 1: the Emmys were like on the Sunday and so on
Speaker 1: the friday of work. It might have been well before that.
Speaker 1: It might have been well before that. It might have
Speaker 1: been like maybe five days before or something like that,
Speaker 1: because because we did the whole okay, okay, So I
Speaker 1: get to uh, I get to the tanning booth and
Speaker 1: it's like that fucking episode of Friends where Ross becomes
Speaker 1: a nine instead of for three because it keeps spraying
Speaker 1: stuff at him. He doesn't turn around and sprays again
Speaker 1: and spray to get So I get in there and
Speaker 1: you watch this little video and you put this cream
Speaker 1: on your hands and you got to spin around and
Speaker 1: do these weird poses. And I had like negative five
Speaker 1: minut to get this done before going to set. And
Speaker 1: I put a hairnet over my face so that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't tan my face, and then I ripped that off
Speaker 1: and then then keep spraying. And so I get to said,
Speaker 1: and I'm tanned, and then you were you were full.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not yet, not yet, because what happens with
Speaker 1: this spray tan is it develops over time. And so
Speaker 1: I was in the makeup chair and then my makeup
Speaker 1: and we're doing these scenes and then as the day
Speaker 1: goes on, I'm just getting like more and more and
Speaker 1: more tanned, and instead of actually tanned, it was just
Speaker 1: more and more and more orange. And so Bill comes
Speaker 1: harder than any special effect we've ever done on the show,
Speaker 1: Harder than the Exacts head explode um in the fantasy
Speaker 1: sequence is going to be making you look less like
Speaker 1: a new bloompa. You were like, we're trying to float
Speaker 1: filters in front of your face because we can't color
Speaker 1: time it and just jack out, like we can't just
Speaker 1: wind the knob and take out some the color because
Speaker 1: we keep doing it. You're in a scene with Donald
Speaker 1: and then McDonald white. Dude, I'm gonna say something right now.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember when it happened. I remember you
Speaker 1: being on set, and I remember saying to you, did
Speaker 1: you change something? Did you do your hair is different
Speaker 1: or something like that. What's so definitely I remember, just
Speaker 1: like kids in a in a family, the three of us,
Speaker 1: whenever one of us was in trouble, I was always
Speaker 1: so happy when it wasn't me, and you just be
Speaker 1: like you just be on set, just kind of bouncing
Speaker 1: around like somebody's in trouble and it's not me, and
Speaker 1: Sarah is freaking orange. It was so embarrassing. It's like,
Speaker 1: were laughing the time I got the braces on the
Speaker 1: inside of my mouth. We're laughing about that. When Donald
Speaker 1: showed up with braces and he would like so Bill
Speaker 1: and nobody couldn't even notice exact same thing. Oh God,
Speaker 1: did you just have to go get him taken out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right off? Yeah, dude, Yeah, he made me get him
Speaker 1: taken out. I got busil line in like season two.
Speaker 1: Everybody made so much fun of me, but I had to.
Speaker 1: I would like, I had to take him out like
Speaker 1: right before take but you're supposed to wear likeween like.
Speaker 1: It was just a disaster. I just remember Donald. It
Speaker 1: was so funny watching him try to sell the bill
Speaker 1: that the braces. Nobody was going to notice those braces
Speaker 1: on the inside of his teeth. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna love this. Nobody's even going to notice. And
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be great for my It's gonna
Speaker 1: be great for my teeth. I remember I went I
Speaker 1: went home that night after the spray tan and I
Speaker 1: had to scrub every ounce of my body. I just
Speaker 1: my face and my body. I just was like taking
Speaker 1: spolt to it. And then I did a movie in
Speaker 1: Hawaii last year and the person wanted us to do
Speaker 1: a spray tans So Lauren Lapkiss, who plays the lead
Speaker 1: in the movie, and I was supposed to spray tans
Speaker 1: I said, I I've actually had a couple of really
Speaker 1: bad experiences with spray tans. I don't recommend it. I
Speaker 1: think it's just reacts with me the bad orangey way.
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, no, no, we have like the
Speaker 1: best people in Hawaiiy're gonna come. They're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. So I come down the next morning.
Speaker 1: The woman comes to rough tell him like four sprays
Speaker 1: you down. I come down the hair and makeup trailer
Speaker 1: and they are freaking out there, like your legs are waring.
Speaker 1: And then Lauren last hasn't seen any of this preamble
Speaker 1: two balks, and she's like, who loves the sprint? And
Speaker 1: they're like, Sarah, quickly go back at Joe, tell take
Speaker 1: some salt, scrub, scrub it all off, get it all
Speaker 1: off quick. I'm like, okay, I'll be right back, So, Sarah,
Speaker 1: I don't think sprays hands are for you. Do you
Speaker 1: burn when you get into the sun? Uh, she's very pale.
Speaker 1: Look at her like, how bail she is? That was
Speaker 1: the other joke on this movie. The reason why I
Speaker 1: would literally, in between in between scenes, I would be,
Speaker 1: you know, completely covered up to the point where we
Speaker 1: would go out at night. No, everyone else would be like, chalk,
Speaker 1: do you have your sun screened on? Like I just
Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about the scene. But the dramatic scenes, Sarah,
Speaker 1: I think you're acting is really good. Here at three
Speaker 1: there's this awesome scene where you and Judy where Judy
Speaker 1: comes to get you and you're at the soda machine.
Speaker 1: I think this is a really really good acting on
Speaker 1: your part. Was this your Was this the first big
Speaker 1: monologue for you on the show? I thought you were
Speaker 1: going to say. Was this the first time that you
Speaker 1: put in your iPod and listen to Josh Raden? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that what you did? You're giving Josh Rayden? Or
Speaker 1: was it? What was it? I will remember well, don't
Speaker 1: don't take away her, don't take away her, Josh Raiden,
Speaker 1: plug Donald, Josh Raiden has gotten enough plugs on this
Speaker 1: show is that is that? Is that who you used
Speaker 1: to get to make your eyes to make yourself emotional
Speaker 1: in eyes tier up? Well, I was still young, I
Speaker 1: mean at that point. Now you know, as you grow
Speaker 1: older you have many more experiences you're from. But I
Speaker 1: used to use an iPod and I would play sad
Speaker 1: music and kind of get into the mode. I don't
Speaker 1: not then that scene was kind of it was very
Speaker 1: early on. It was enough. I mean I remember just
Speaker 1: shooting it and it was was it. Babies got back.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's something about the lyrics. You you can
Speaker 1: see if you look very closely, if you stop freeze
Speaker 1: the frame, you can see my hips just kind of
Speaker 1: booty is shaken a little bit. Yeah, I know. Josh Raiden,
Speaker 1: let's give a plug man. He obviously was a soundtrack
Speaker 1: to many things. I delivered my children to Josh raid
Speaker 1: If you're gonna, if you're gonna deliver your children and
Speaker 1: that's coming up, we recommend you use the musical stylings
Speaker 1: of Joshua Raydon. Josh Rayden sang the song at my wedding.
Speaker 1: Their first dance was and he fucked up the song tremendously,
Speaker 1: he did, But I love him Oh my god, he
Speaker 1: didn't even remember the song. I got the video, which
Speaker 1: got which which song of it was? It was? It
Speaker 1: was which song of him? No, it was moon Pours
Speaker 1: through the Ceiling tonight embraises us with line and it
Speaker 1: was perfect for the uh, for the moment, the rest
Speaker 1: of my life, cake this night. Whoa yeah, and only
Speaker 1: the heartaches have given me side they bring me to you. Right,
Speaker 1: fucked it up the he fucked up the whole song. Dude,
Speaker 1: I wish I could could say opposite of a plug. No,
Speaker 1: it was due. He didn't listen. It's not every day
Speaker 1: you get somebody like like him to one perform at
Speaker 1: your wedding, also to do it for free, so that
Speaker 1: he also performed at Ellen's wedding. I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they paid him. I didn't have to pay him.
Speaker 1: And for that alone, And thank you, Josh Rading. You
Speaker 1: are one of my heroes. Kevilie Donald didn't ask me
Speaker 1: to sing at his wedding. By the way, has the
Speaker 1: worst voice in the world. America. Let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: America and all other nations listening, don't ever let Sarah sing.
Speaker 1: Windows break photographs. These are what this what's happening in
Speaker 1: my house? The windows going? I was conspicuously absent in
Speaker 1: the musical episode. And also remember when when the when
Speaker 1: when Daryl Hannah and Splash says her name, That's what
Speaker 1: happens when Sarah say, I guess we haven't covered that
Speaker 1: yet that you guys didn't ask me to help you
Speaker 1: record the opening song? Can you imagine? Do you like
Speaker 1: our song? I love her song? Yeah, Charlie Pooth wrote
Speaker 1: the music and Donald and I were for the Donald
Speaker 1: and I were the lyricist. What We wrote the melody too,
Speaker 1: and then sent it to him, Well, the melody is
Speaker 1: right kind of credit for melody. Melody was us Charlie
Speaker 1: Pouth's producer and and and music writer, and you and
Speaker 1: hired the lyricists. But we could also we also need
Speaker 1: to give a little shout out to sitcom shows from
Speaker 1: back in a day, like the Jefferson Someone said on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I thought it was it was right. It said it's
Speaker 1: a mix between the Brady Bunch theme and the Jefferson's theme. Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. I thought that was really perfect. Sorry,
Speaker 1: do you find yourself singing our theme song? When you're
Speaker 1: in your house and quarantine. It's it's you know, I
Speaker 1: I've actually learned that. I I've got learning the guitar
Speaker 1: of the ukulele actually, and I'll send you guys a
Speaker 1: clip of me singing, and you know, I'll leave it
Speaker 1: in your hands. Put on my show. My girlfriend caught
Speaker 1: me on the treadmill listening to our theme song and
Speaker 1: laughed at me, not with me, at me. You're proud
Speaker 1: of it. You're proud of it. Things I noticed about
Speaker 1: the show, about this show ahead, I had no idea
Speaker 1: that I bopped that hard in the hallway. And when
Speaker 1: I say bob, I mean like I had the straight up.
Speaker 1: My walk is legendary. Strut. Is it like a stress?
Speaker 1: It's like a but it's like so over the top, dude,
Speaker 1: it's so over the top. It's like George Jefferson when
Speaker 1: he was This is exactly like George Jefferson. It's like
Speaker 1: so heavy. It's like, yo, dude, why are you going
Speaker 1: so hard with that? And your inspiration? Do you remember
Speaker 1: who your inspiration was? It's always Sherman Hemsley. Sherman Hemsley
Speaker 1: always I wanted to say something about the scene in
Speaker 1: nineteen O seven, There's the I had this dramatic scene
Speaker 1: with Katherine Juston and it was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever had the balls to go to Bill because I
Speaker 1: thought I did a good job. And then he showed
Speaker 1: me an edit of it and he had taken out
Speaker 1: some of my dramatic pauses. And it was one of
Speaker 1: the first times in my acting career where I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta go talk to him, because
Speaker 1: he's making me look like a bad actor. He's he's
Speaker 1: taking out the pauses like you because you know, the
Speaker 1: show had to be cut down to twenty two minutes
Speaker 1: or something, and I remember Bill going like, dude, there's
Speaker 1: no time. It's twenty two minutes. There's no time for pauses.
Speaker 1: There's no time for dramatic pauses, and um. And I
Speaker 1: think in the end he put he put a little
Speaker 1: bit back, but it was like it was when she goes,
Speaker 1: are you okay? And then I go, I'm scared and
Speaker 1: and and then when I saw it edited together for
Speaker 1: the first time, I was like, are you okay? I'm scared?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that makes me look really bad.
Speaker 1: And this is a thing that actors, I'm sure I
Speaker 1: know as a director feel all the time sometimes when
Speaker 1: you look and go, why did you cut me like that?
Speaker 1: Like on the day, I thought I was doing a
Speaker 1: much better job. But if you take out that pause
Speaker 1: and cut to me like like that, I don't look
Speaker 1: as good as I want to be. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys had that feeling throughout the show sometimes.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, you know, you we we would tell jokes
Speaker 1: sometimes and jokes wouldn't make the show, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'd have moments where we thought, you know, we were
Speaker 1: crushing it and then only to see you know, the
Speaker 1: editors and Bill decided to use the reaction shot instead
Speaker 1: of your actual you know, instead of your before right,
Speaker 1: or the joke's just completely gone right. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that scene that you're talking about, Zack. It
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite ones in the in the
Speaker 1: episode when you know, she tells you to go and
Speaker 1: live your life and you're like, you know, uh huh,
Speaker 1: I'm just starting on a few things and you go
Speaker 1: up to the thing and you're kind of pretending it
Speaker 1: I don't want to go, and and then it's always
Speaker 1: you know, my father, who passed away recently, always always
Speaker 1: would reference this moment in scrubs that he thought it
Speaker 1: was so incredibly moving, the idea of a of an
Speaker 1: older woman comforting a young doctor about death. And and
Speaker 1: he said, I just he you know, he was, He's like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that before. And and and
Speaker 1: when I'm just watching it this time, I just remember
Speaker 1: how much he would always reference that because it was
Speaker 1: so so beautiful, that the sentiment that the j D
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to deal with death yet, but here's
Speaker 1: this older woman who's ready to go and she's the
Speaker 1: one comforting him about it. I just thought that was
Speaker 1: beautifully written somehow managed to also be funny in parts.
Speaker 1: That was what I couldn't believe, Like when she's just
Speaker 1: like everybody dies, No they don't, right, No, they don't,
Speaker 1: right the Schifel to the Miifel Tower, um the Miiful Tower.
Speaker 1: That that being said, that whole, the whole list thing,
Speaker 1: especially with the way things are right now, that whole
Speaker 1: list thing got me to thinking, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't have any regrets in my life or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but there are certain things that I still
Speaker 1: want to do, you know what I mean. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're in quarantine and it doesn't seem like,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't feel like we're gonna get out
Speaker 1: of this anytime soon, you know what I mean. Not
Speaker 1: to sound more bid or dark or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but when j D brings up the list and she's like,
Speaker 1: I've done all of those things already, it really made
Speaker 1: me think, like, well, you know, when this is over,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that I get out and I
Speaker 1: live a lot more than I did before, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's interesting. I mean, this quarantine thing,
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it gives you perspective and and
Speaker 1: and I've just been feeling focusing on gratitude a lot
Speaker 1: because I just think that, like when all this is
Speaker 1: so insane, and it makes you focus on how lucky
Speaker 1: we are and what we want to appreciate in life.
Speaker 1: You know, they just the simple things like being able
Speaker 1: to go to a restaurant with friends and laugh and
Speaker 1: have a drink. And I don't know, it's interesting you
Speaker 1: say that, So have you made a list? Don't are
Speaker 1: you making lists of things you want to I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start a list. I know. A lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do with my kids and making sure that they
Speaker 1: get to experience a lot of the things that I
Speaker 1: didn't experience when I was a kid, when I was young,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Uh, I try to do
Speaker 1: that now, but I feel like maybe I need to
Speaker 1: go a little bit overboard, and then you know, I
Speaker 1: have my wife tell me we need to dial it
Speaker 1: back a little bit. We're going too far, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, Uh, there're certain things that my
Speaker 1: kids have never done that and that's because I don't
Speaker 1: do it, you know what I mean, And I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to do that to them.
Speaker 1: I want them to have that experience in that adventure.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's it's also because
Speaker 1: we don't know when this is over. We don't know
Speaker 1: how long we're gonna be doing for, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be short. Obviously. It sounds like tend a vaccine.
Speaker 1: Who knows, Who knows how long this chunk of our
Speaker 1: lives is and what it looks like and whether it
Speaker 1: opens back up. I feel like it's impossible. It is.
Speaker 1: It is and has trite as It's like trying to
Speaker 1: be in the moment and trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: like the rare times with them that I have now
Speaker 1: that are so hard to get in the like in
Speaker 1: the every day you think about how much time you
Speaker 1: spend in the car driving them to activities, doing whatever,
Speaker 1: and when work takes over and that becomes though all consuming,
Speaker 1: and I feel like as much of it is that
Speaker 1: that we can squeeze out just here, like just sitting
Speaker 1: with them. Like I was reading something the other day saying,
Speaker 1: you know, people are worried about their kids getting behind
Speaker 1: an education. What if they actually came out ahead? And
Speaker 1: I thought that was such a cool way to look
Speaker 1: at it, Like, kids, this is going to form who
Speaker 1: they are and who they become. And what if they
Speaker 1: what if they actually start to appreciate the small things
Speaker 1: that we're starting to appreciate right now instead of just
Speaker 1: the grind of everyday life. And what if they actually
Speaker 1: learned to do meaningful chores at home and learn the
Speaker 1: value in that and learn how to you know, actually be.
Speaker 1: You know, the only thing I worry about with all
Speaker 1: of that is their social skills when this is all
Speaker 1: said and done, you know what I mean, That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I worry about. But yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: got this kid reading, you know, she's on site words,
Speaker 1: and we're trying to get her to read and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and we're working with matth and all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. But at the end of the day, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's something special about being around other children
Speaker 1: their age to interact with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's so true. I know my heartbreaks for only kids.
Speaker 1: Who are you know, having to go through this right
Speaker 1: now with no no kids to play with. It's really hard.
Speaker 1: The show ends with Hallelujah by John Klee, which has
Speaker 1: been covered by lots of folks. Um. I thought this
Speaker 1: was a particularly beautiful rendition and uh again, I think
Speaker 1: it was the first real time I noticed the show
Speaker 1: ending with a with a sweet, somber, uplifting song in
Speaker 1: a beautiful way, cutting to the montage and I got
Speaker 1: road Town. I got goose bumps when we when we
Speaker 1: all three whip our heads around, Um, yeah, revealing that
Speaker 1: we've all it's not one in three in this case,
Speaker 1: the odds of have fallen, so we've lost three of three.
Speaker 1: I got goose bumps up and down my arms at
Speaker 1: that moment. I thought that was really beautifully done. Absolutely
Speaker 1: so shocking when that happens, right like, as a viewer,
Speaker 1: I think you're not expecting that you're kind of waiting
Speaker 1: for that statistic that they set up at the beginning,
Speaker 1: and then we end the show and this is and
Speaker 1: this is what I was saying a few episodes before, Sarah,
Speaker 1: you weren't here for this, but it's really important for
Speaker 1: doctors to be able to pick themselves back up after
Speaker 1: something like this happens. And you know, it's also very
Speaker 1: important that this happens to these young doctors at an
Speaker 1: early time, so they do know how to set up
Speaker 1: boundaries and do know how to set up walls to
Speaker 1: help them be professional. It's tragic that it has to
Speaker 1: be death that does it, but yeah, you know, to
Speaker 1: lose someone you care about and then show up the
Speaker 1: next day at that job, it's it's very difficult. I
Speaker 1: can't I can't imagine it. I find it difficult to watch,
Speaker 1: and it's very difficult to experience, I would imagine. And
Speaker 1: that was that, and that piece of it so cool
Speaker 1: that the show kind of owes that right after, with
Speaker 1: you know, Churk going back and introducing himself to the patient,
Speaker 1: Jad taking the time to go beyond the grass, Elliott
Speaker 1: kind of figuring out how to take charge, and that
Speaker 1: was kind of cool too, Johnny, these conversation with Elliott
Speaker 1: when he says you made the right call, you did,
Speaker 1: and she says, I know, and I don't. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember that. And when I saw that, you know, just
Speaker 1: sort of having her take that confident position. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was really powerful. I was really powerful. I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: um listen, guys, we did it. We did I'm so
Speaker 1: glad Sarah we had you because we wanted to have
Speaker 1: you on this one. Because we all keep saying, this
Speaker 1: was a very special episode for all of us, and
Speaker 1: thank you for for coming on. And I hope you
Speaker 1: know we're having fun doing this. I hope that Donald
Speaker 1: and I both hope that you'll come as as as
Speaker 1: many times as you're willing to and and rewatch the
Speaker 1: show with us. I loved it. It was so fun,
Speaker 1: so fun to do. Um, so is that a yes?
Speaker 1: Was that a yes? That was a very non chemical,
Speaker 1: very odd that is that is? I'm in you? Just
Speaker 1: you can know where I am. Guys not doing anything?
Speaker 1: How do you say good how do you say goodbye?
Speaker 1: And Canadians? Sh I think it's goodbye bye? Wait? Is
Speaker 1: it something like that's French? That's well, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them speak friendship that Donald. That's some
Speaker 1: Bilingo country here, guys, is it? Yes? On that note, Donald,
Speaker 1: if you'll lead us in song? Uh? Why Donald? Why
Speaker 1: I can't I lead us in song? Sorry? You can
Speaker 1: lead us in song? Um we will now, Donald Connaisson,
Speaker 1: please one two. I prefer it when you count down
Speaker 1: like Debbie. Okay, you got big dreams, you want you
Speaker 1: take the monologue. This time of fame costs, and right
Speaker 1: here's where you start paying. Stories about show we made nurses,
Speaker 1: the stories netball should go. So gather around you here,
Speaker 1: I'll gather around you here. I'll just excretch for you,
Speaker 1: watch your wis and then d M h.