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Speaker 1: on time on Target. I am your host this morning,
Speaker 1: Steve blas Or joining me. We have a very special
Speaker 1: guest with us speaking head said from Fox Nation. Also
Speaker 1: he's the co host of the weekend show on Fox
Speaker 1: and uh piece of ex military man. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: his his record speaks for itself. So let's jump right
Speaker 1: in the time is short for Pete today, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump right and Pete welcome to Software Pretty Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for taking the time to speak
Speaker 1: with us today. Steve, thank you so much. Thanks for
Speaker 1: everything you've done and appreciate everything soft Rep does as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you know, before we start, I have to mention
Speaker 1: one thing. I think you're you know, your courage is
Speaker 1: beyond question. But this week and I was watching on
Speaker 1: the weekend show and they replayed a clip from when
Speaker 1: you went through the uh the pain of giving birth,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Pizza braver man than myself. I'm
Speaker 1: only I'm glad that the ladies in our lives would
Speaker 1: have to endure that. Not Yeah, I was like I could,
Speaker 1: I would never do that on film. So that's off
Speaker 1: to you on that one. But jumping right in software,
Speaker 1: Bradio and Fox Nation is joining together. Uh, why don't
Speaker 1: you explain to our listeners what this is all about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really cool. So this is your your listeners had
Speaker 1: it's a huge veterans and military uh population. And for
Speaker 1: the week of May to May thirty one, So for
Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend, Fox Nation is giving away free subscriptions
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Speaker 1: free for a year. Absolutely, and you know that that's
Speaker 1: gonna be an excellent week. Uh. You know, we were uh,
Speaker 1: we've been working behind the scenes and you know, we're
Speaker 1: we're reviewing a bunch of the shows on Fox Nation.
Speaker 1: I think our listeners are really going to get into this.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about you for a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: what's so much going on in the news right now.
Speaker 1: As an ex military veteran UM who served in Iraq,
Speaker 1: you served in Afghanistan, you also served in Gitmo. You
Speaker 1: know what, what's your take on the withdrawal for you know,
Speaker 1: the U S troops in Afghanistan. It's a tough one, Steve,
Speaker 1: it really is. I mean, I the thing is, I
Speaker 1: served in Afghanistan about ten years ago, and the writing
Speaker 1: was on the wall even then of who who the
Speaker 1: real power base was in Afghanistan. It's a country with
Speaker 1: no history of central governance, no no national power structure,
Speaker 1: very tribal as everyone knows. But you can't really try
Speaker 1: to remake a country into something it isn't. And so
Speaker 1: I think for the right reasons, the United States and
Speaker 1: some allies you know, attempted to put together an Afghan
Speaker 1: National Army and Afghan National Police with a national identity,
Speaker 1: and ultimately the question is can that structure withhold the Taliban?
Speaker 1: And ten years ago the writing was already on the
Speaker 1: wall that Unfortunately, the Taliban are the real power brokers
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and they they they maintain, you know, the
Speaker 1: criminality and intimidation on the population, and the population ultimately
Speaker 1: is making a calculation. Do I side with the Taliban,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be here for a hundred years, or do
Speaker 1: I side with this new government that seems well funded
Speaker 1: now and is backed by the Americans. But what happens
Speaker 1: when the Americans leave? And and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I've said for many years we should wait for conditions
Speaker 1: on the ground, and how it kind of changes. What
Speaker 1: if conditions on the ground, What if the condition on
Speaker 1: the ground is We're never going to meet the conditions
Speaker 1: on the ground because it's just not the type of
Speaker 1: situation where you can nation build. So I support the withdrawal.
Speaker 1: I do. It's hard, it's it's it's time. It's time
Speaker 1: for the Afghan government and people to stand on their
Speaker 1: own feet. There's no good options right now, but we've
Speaker 1: done our part, and ultimately it's up to them, and
Speaker 1: we need to maintain enough of a president to deal
Speaker 1: with you know, El Qaeda two point oh. Should they
Speaker 1: ever attempt to do something like they did twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: but it's time to go. And I think it was
Speaker 1: President Trump that really set the op tempo for us
Speaker 1: to realize that. Yeah, and you know, basically, and I'm
Speaker 1: no big fan of President Biden, but you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, what position can he take at this point?
Speaker 1: I mean, the writing was on the wall, I felt.
Speaker 1: And we've been gradually with drawing troops and I think
Speaker 1: it's the right move to get us out of there.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the you know, the time frame
Speaker 1: and whatnot. That's the people way above my pay grade,
Speaker 1: but I agree with you. I think it's time to
Speaker 1: get out. Um. I wanted to ask you about, you know,
Speaker 1: the big thing today with our military listeners, you know,
Speaker 1: the great power competition with Russia and China. And it
Speaker 1: seems like the you know, at least from some of
Speaker 1: our you know, reading and writing that we've been doing,
Speaker 1: is it seems like that that area is starting to
Speaker 1: focus on Africa. Um. Do you think this is an
Speaker 1: area where the United States should be involved in? Well?
Speaker 1: I think we have. We have to reorient towards big
Speaker 1: power competition. There's no doubt. I mean, China is building
Speaker 1: a military specifically designed to defeat the United States of America. UH.
Speaker 1: And we've been spent the last twenty years in the
Speaker 1: Middle East retrofitting a military to try to fight counterinsurgency,
Speaker 1: in nation building, and what we really need to be
Speaker 1: prepared for is peer to peer conflict. And and they've
Speaker 1: been building, you know, they've got a navy larger than ours,
Speaker 1: they're building hypersonic weapons, they're weaponizing space. Um, all of
Speaker 1: the the the the digital aspects, the cyber aspects that
Speaker 1: they've developed, and then of course even old school stuff
Speaker 1: like chemical weapons and biological weapons, which you know, whether
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen escaped or not, they're responsible for it. And
Speaker 1: and they're they're they're they're playing around with with um
Speaker 1: horrific weapons of war that they conceivably would be willing
Speaker 1: to use if they think the time is right for
Speaker 1: them to replace the United States. It's scary times. And
Speaker 1: you mentioned Africa, what what in South America? I mean,
Speaker 1: China is very effectively leveraging it's it's soft so called
Speaker 1: soft power, it's financial weight, UH, to try to create
Speaker 1: spheres of influence with vulnerable countries who take Chinese money
Speaker 1: and then they're beholden to them ultimately, or they work
Speaker 1: with their military. If you think about big part of
Speaker 1: America's global strength has been partnerships UH in countries around
Speaker 1: the world. China is trying to do the same thing
Speaker 1: and build a power structure parallel to what the world
Speaker 1: has looked like under American dominance since World War Two.
Speaker 1: So we can't We don't have to be everywhere all
Speaker 1: the time. We don't have to be nation building in
Speaker 1: these places. But partnerships UH is important lest we give
Speaker 1: away entire continents to Chinese control, which is not good
Speaker 1: for freedom in the world. If ultimately freedom is what
Speaker 1: we care about. The communist Chinese don't give a damn
Speaker 1: about that, and they're just trying to build their power.
Speaker 1: So I do think it's an important thing to keep
Speaker 1: our eyes on. Absolutely I totally agree with that as well. Um,
Speaker 1: I have to ask you a personal question, how did
Speaker 1: you get into television? Was this strictly something that you
Speaker 1: had your eye on or or did it just happen
Speaker 1: by chance. Honestly, it happened by chance. I was in
Speaker 1: the military most most of my career in the National Guard,
Speaker 1: mobilized multiple times, and I ran a couple of veterans
Speaker 1: groups one was called Vets for Freedom, another one called
Speaker 1: Concerned Veterans for America for years and years, and because
Speaker 1: of those positions, I ended up finding myself on TV
Speaker 1: as a commentator around veterans issues, military issues, foreign policy.
Speaker 1: And one day, after years of doing that, you know,
Speaker 1: not for any company, did I did MSNBC and CNN
Speaker 1: and lots of Fox and all of that. Fox at
Speaker 1: one point said, hey, have you ever thought about asking
Speaker 1: questions and instead of answering them? And they gave me
Speaker 1: a shot to be a guest host on Fox and
Speaker 1: Friends Weekend, uh many many years ago. Now it makes
Speaker 1: you feel old, but it must have gone okay. And
Speaker 1: from there I've just done more and more and now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not anticipate I'd be wearing makeup uh or
Speaker 1: a living and now now I am. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: grateful because I do have a I do have a
Speaker 1: different background. I didn't come at this from a journalist perspective,
Speaker 1: from you know, local news, and those are all valuable assets.
Speaker 1: I just kind of went did my thing, you know,
Speaker 1: doing the types of things we did, loving our country
Speaker 1: and fighting for it. And you know, because of the
Speaker 1: passion that I have for the topics. I hope that
Speaker 1: translates and and and now I take very seriously the
Speaker 1: responsibility being one of them handful. I can't really think
Speaker 1: of other vets and military members in the national media.
Speaker 1: And so when when issues come up like China, or
Speaker 1: like the withdrawal from Afghanistan, or what's happening in Israel
Speaker 1: right now, I've done a bunch of documentaries about Israel,
Speaker 1: Battle in the Holy Land, Battle in the Holy City
Speaker 1: that are talking about the topics going on right now.
Speaker 1: I try I'm very intentional about trying to get it right,
Speaker 1: to try to get people to understand what the military
Speaker 1: face is, what law enforcement faces, having made some of
Speaker 1: those same split second decision with lives on the line.
Speaker 1: And I hope it brings an additional flavor to our coverage. Uh,
Speaker 1: certainly at times when when we're we're asking questions about
Speaker 1: who the enemy is, how you find them, what you
Speaker 1: do about it, and what's it like to be carrying
Speaker 1: that rifle and making that decision. And I get a
Speaker 1: lot of texts from a lot of guys that I
Speaker 1: served with and who I've got to know, because if
Speaker 1: I get it wrong, I hear about it. And UH,
Speaker 1: and and I gotta adjust fire. So it's it's neat
Speaker 1: to be in that position. Yeah, and I know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're talking about because a lot of the SF
Speaker 1: guys that I served with, you know, always tell me
Speaker 1: now now that I've become a quote unquote journalists, that
Speaker 1: I've onto the dark side. So yes, you know, I
Speaker 1: I and as you know, I definitely feel what you're
Speaker 1: saying there, and for yourself obviously it's in a much
Speaker 1: larger realm there, but I wanted so much cares a
Speaker 1: little bit because you mentioned Israel. I know you've been
Speaker 1: there several times, You've met um, you know Mr Netton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who what's your opinion of him? Oh, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of b B net and Yahoo. I think
Speaker 1: he has the interests of the Jewish people in the
Speaker 1: State of Israel at his core. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: another guy who's been on the battlefield, lost his brother.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's he knows what what it's like.
Speaker 1: He understands the I mean, he and so much of
Speaker 1: the Israeli people understand the existential nature they live in
Speaker 1: the surrounded by countries that want to kill them, that
Speaker 1: want to wipe them off. The map, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's it's fundamentally right of center culture. Everyone serves there.
Speaker 1: They get the fact that they have to fight for
Speaker 1: their very existence. And I think B B. Nett and yeah,
Speaker 1: who personifies that's the longest standing prime minister in these
Speaker 1: reels history. Sure, he's controversial, there's plenty of people that
Speaker 1: want to it. After if you think we have a
Speaker 1: fake news media in the United States, is rarely pressed.
Speaker 1: They don't even have a Fox News equivalent in Israel.
Speaker 1: It's all left wing UH television there. So he's up
Speaker 1: against the press corps that doesn't like him. Obviously, their
Speaker 1: parliamentary system is far more complex. But you know what's
Speaker 1: going on now, I think bodes hopefully bodes well for him,
Speaker 1: first for the state of Israel, but second of all
Speaker 1: politically is they're looking for someone that can take on Hamas,
Speaker 1: which is you know, so so well funded by Iran
Speaker 1: UH still committed to wiping Israel off the map, map,
Speaker 1: teaching their kids to hate Jews, and ultimately they probably
Speaker 1: would have won the Palestinian elections if they had been held,
Speaker 1: which is a scary reality. So they're they're at a
Speaker 1: tough moment there and it's yes. So far the Biden
Speaker 1: administration has said most of the right things, but the
Speaker 1: signals are mixed, and that that empowers Hamas to try
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the situation. Yes, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've actually met Mr. You know a couple of times,
Speaker 1: very briefly, but I actually did get to me him.
Speaker 1: He's a very impressive man. In fact, I I through
Speaker 1: Uh through a good friend of mine, I was introduced
Speaker 1: to his family. I met and was able to interview
Speaker 1: his brother on the third brother who led the raid
Speaker 1: on it, Tebby. We did a story on that, and
Speaker 1: he sounds exactly like his brother when he when we
Speaker 1: first got on the phone too to speak. I asked
Speaker 1: him if it was actually Benjamin, because they sound so
Speaker 1: much alike, and he laughed and said, now we don't
Speaker 1: say anything like I beg No, It's true. You know
Speaker 1: what the thing is, You know when you're in the
Speaker 1: presence of people that you know, when you're in the
Speaker 1: presence of greatness or in the presence of gravitas, and
Speaker 1: you can kind of feel it. I mean, that's how
Speaker 1: I felt sitting and meeting and interviewing bb net Yahoo.
Speaker 1: You can tell he understands the weight of the responsibility
Speaker 1: that he has absolutely so um Again a personal note,
Speaker 1: I know you once ran for it back in any
Speaker 1: political aspirations, especially with with how you know, I guess
Speaker 1: separated we are right now politically as a country, I
Speaker 1: can happily say no political aspirations. I'm quite happy, uh,
Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, and I'd like to think that
Speaker 1: in this contentious environment, you know, information operations, the media
Speaker 1: is as important as anything else. Everyone plays a role.
Speaker 1: So I listen if someday down the road there were
Speaker 1: to be a situation where it made sense what I
Speaker 1: consider it, maybe, but I'm not. It's so liberating to
Speaker 1: not be thinking about it. And I'm glad I didn't
Speaker 1: win in twelve. Frankly, I wasn't ready. I talked about
Speaker 1: this on Fox last week. I would have been a
Speaker 1: terrible senator. So it's it worked. You know, all everything
Speaker 1: happens for a reason. God has a plan, and uh,
Speaker 1: I never would have foreseen where I am now doing
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And you know, plus politics is you've
Speaker 1: got to you know, raise money. It's it's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of junk that goes with it. So that we
Speaker 1: can skip if we're in the media. I'd rather watch
Speaker 1: you on TV on the weekend, to be honest, But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish being a politician on anyone right now.
Speaker 1: But we need and I think we have a dearth
Speaker 1: of leadership right now. I think too many people on
Speaker 1: both sides of the isle of putting party above the people.
Speaker 1: And you know that's that's that's just my opinion, but
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people feel that way. And
Speaker 1: we definitely need leaders today because we're entering into some
Speaker 1: contentious times. You know, we just mentioned Israel. They have
Speaker 1: all kinds of violence going on there and the Middle
Speaker 1: East doesn't seem to be calming down any and now
Speaker 1: you know we're moving on like you we just mentioned
Speaker 1: Africa that we all know the problems they're having in
Speaker 1: this hell down there. So and that's an area or
Speaker 1: our allies, the French, are working in. So it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like the world where having and is getting any easier. No,
Speaker 1: not even close. And either to your point about politics,
Speaker 1: I mean, who are the two most popular movement figures
Speaker 1: on both sides in the last couple of years. It's
Speaker 1: been Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. I mean, yes, I know,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden won the nomination, but that was a reflection
Speaker 1: of sort of older power bases ultimately, when you were
Speaker 1: willing to speak for the forgotten men and women. And
Speaker 1: I think Bernie's wrong on everything, but he certainly taps
Speaker 1: into a sentiment of people who feel like politics has
Speaker 1: left them behind. Um. And and Trump was rewarded for
Speaker 1: having the courage to speak up and say the things
Speaker 1: that you know we say and around our dinner tables,
Speaker 1: but no one will say openly, uh you, you gotta
Speaker 1: just say it and come out and stand for it otherwise. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad forces at work in our
Speaker 1: politics right now. Yeah. And just yesterday it was kind
Speaker 1: of surprising. I mean to see a letter written by
Speaker 1: you know, former flag officers as a US military calling
Speaker 1: out the direction our country is going in that that's
Speaker 1: never really been done before. No, I think we're an
Speaker 1: unchartered territory here, I really do. I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: you've got an entire party in the Democrats, effectively captured
Speaker 1: by the socialist wing. You've got new threads of curriculum
Speaker 1: being taught in schools and not just not just like
Speaker 1: you you know left wings schools in in in big cities,
Speaker 1: but in school districts across the country that are being
Speaker 1: taught that I don't know, if you're white, you're evil,
Speaker 1: and if you're black, you're a perpetual victim. And our
Speaker 1: country is founded in sixteen nineteen and is evil, and
Speaker 1: inherently you can't keep a country that believes its own
Speaker 1: people and its own country is evil. And so we're
Speaker 1: we're at that kind of moment where we're not getting
Speaker 1: closer together, we're getting further apart, which we've always had
Speaker 1: disagreements in America is far from a perfect country. But
Speaker 1: the idea was always to say, let's affirm those founding
Speaker 1: ideals and make them better, not reject them completely. And
Speaker 1: so when you when you see that complete rejection alongside
Speaker 1: politicians now with a lot of power, were totally untethered
Speaker 1: from reality and spending trillions and trillions and getting people
Speaker 1: hooked on the government benefits and not uh being willing
Speaker 1: to look for a job, that's a dangerous spot. They're
Speaker 1: not wrong, no, And um, I wanted to mention your
Speaker 1: your books. I know we're jumping around a lot here,
Speaker 1: but I know you time to show it with you.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to jam as much of information as
Speaker 1: we can in here. Uh. You know, you wrote in
Speaker 1: the Arena and American Crusade, which in the Arena was
Speaker 1: uh kind of built off the quote by Teddy Roosevelt,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite quotes of all time.
Speaker 1: But you know your latest book, American Crusade, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: tell our leaders, listeners, I should say, and readers, Um,
Speaker 1: you know a little bit about the genesis of what
Speaker 1: that book is about, because I think it's very important.
Speaker 1: It's about some of it has to do with my
Speaker 1: own metamorphosis, h and my realizations, even four years after
Speaker 1: writing in the Arena that the problem is is starker
Speaker 1: and deeper than anyone thought. And so the whole core
Speaker 1: of the book is about is ms, leftism, socialism, multiculturalism, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Islamism, all the genderism, all the things we're seeing,
Speaker 1: that racism, which is actually reverse racism when it when
Speaker 1: the left, uh is involved with it, and sort of
Speaker 1: understanding the depth of what we're up against. And then
Speaker 1: a call to metaphorical arms to say, we need every
Speaker 1: single person in the fight for America right now, because
Speaker 1: the left has been spent the last one years trying
Speaker 1: to remake the country, and I try to get specific
Speaker 1: about ways people can get involved areas in which we
Speaker 1: need the most UH reinforcements, frankly, and I think it's education.
Speaker 1: And Frankly, actually the solution spection of the book is
Speaker 1: about Israel and learning from the state of Israel and
Speaker 1: education and how the Left has captured that, taking it
Speaker 1: over and we've we've been paying for it ever since,
Speaker 1: not just in college with the lunacy there, but in
Speaker 1: K through twelve. So yeah, I there. They're definitely a
Speaker 1: one book meant to update the previous book. And I
Speaker 1: also wrote one with Fox called Modern Warriors, which is
Speaker 1: about um, you know, post on eleven events and some
Speaker 1: of the fifteen of amazing stories of what what what
Speaker 1: guys have done since nine eleven to protect our country.
Speaker 1: That is a perfect segue because I was going right
Speaker 1: into Modern Warriors, and you wrote the book and you
Speaker 1: also had a series on on Fox Nation and UH
Speaker 1: about Modern Warriors, and some of those stories that you
Speaker 1: guys did are fantastic, and I specifically wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you how UH enjoyable is that as a veteran yourself
Speaker 1: getting to hear all these different stories, getting to hear
Speaker 1: the different experiences of of guys who's who's period of
Speaker 1: service might be different from your own. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: a ton of fun. You know. The idea came twofold one,
Speaker 1: you know, interviewing these guys on Fox and Friends, and
Speaker 1: you're done after three and a half minutes, and you
Speaker 1: feel like, man, this could have gone for the three hours,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I wish I could tell the
Speaker 1: deeper story of what this person has to tell. And
Speaker 1: then the other one was one night I spent I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna have a beer, one beer with
Speaker 1: Rob O'Neil, the guy that shopped in Laden, And then
Speaker 1: three hours later and untold number of beers later, I
Speaker 1: stammered out of the bar, having heard the entire bin
Speaker 1: Laden story and every other story from his background, and
Speaker 1: I thought, man alive, that were the coolest things I've
Speaker 1: ever been a part of. Wouldn't it be cool if
Speaker 1: we could bring a little bit of that two people?
Speaker 1: So modern warriors is this idea. Let's get you know,
Speaker 1: four guys in a room who have done amazing things
Speaker 1: for the country, get him a beer feeling comfortable kind
Speaker 1: of you know, shooting shooting the ship, and let them
Speaker 1: let them go and let's hear their stories, and let's
Speaker 1: hear how they feel about service and sacrifice and rules
Speaker 1: of engagement and the wars that we're fighting, political correct this,
Speaker 1: all that, and let it go. So the series has
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun to put together. In fact,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a special episode of it for a
Speaker 1: Memorial Day scaring as well, where I'm sure we'll mention
Speaker 1: the promotion of bets and military able to get Fox
Speaker 1: Nation for free for a year. It's been neat to
Speaker 1: meet so many of these guys and tell their stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do uh a special edition on that.
Speaker 1: We're writing some stuff that's already getting ready to be
Speaker 1: published on that show as well. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you about one specific episode because you mentioned Rob O'Neil.
Speaker 1: There was him and Eddie Gallagher and a couple of
Speaker 1: other There was an SF Colonel Umu and Scott Many,
Speaker 1: Scott Man, and there was a guy from the Ranger Beat. Uh.
Speaker 1: It seemed like the wine and booze was flowing really
Speaker 1: well on at least on their part during that episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't, but once the cameras are off, it flows
Speaker 1: even more. Uh. Yeah, that's that's the point though, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've in with guys you served with, you
Speaker 1: have a couple of beers, you start chatting and the
Speaker 1: real stories flow right the ones you're you're you want
Speaker 1: to hear, and the honesty, the unvarnished side of it.
Speaker 1: That was a great group. We've had a lot of
Speaker 1: the one we just did. We just filmed at the
Speaker 1: National Veterans Memorial and Museum in Columbus, Ohio on the
Speaker 1: rooftop there with with four just amazing dudes and uh folks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it is, and it's immediately. It's amazing how
Speaker 1: quickly everybody connects, you know how this is in the military,
Speaker 1: Like none of those four guys had served together specifically,
Speaker 1: but all the experiences were the same. From a Green
Speaker 1: Beret to an Army ranger, the two Navy seals to
Speaker 1: a you know, I'm just an Army infantryman. Pretty you're
Speaker 1: immediately connecting on on on on the on the service aspect.
Speaker 1: So you guys are at Fox Nation are going to
Speaker 1: continue to uh to film those. That's that's gonna Oh
Speaker 1: that's great because I love those I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of those now, because like you said,
Speaker 1: once you get the guys in the room and they're
Speaker 1: surrounded by other vets, so then the guard comes down,
Speaker 1: like you said, and you could sense, you know, especially
Speaker 1: that one episode we were just mentioning. You know, as
Speaker 1: the episode went on, it seemed like they got more
Speaker 1: and more relaxed, and the better the stories were coming up,
Speaker 1: for sure. Oh yeah, that's great. I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: So I know you did the seal swim a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago in the Hudson River um and you
Speaker 1: you freely mentioned how you struggled with that. Are you
Speaker 1: doing it again this year? Oh? Man, are you're trying
Speaker 1: to break news here? I don't know. Uh So two
Speaker 1: years ago I did it and didn't. I needed a
Speaker 1: little bit of help from a jet ski to finish
Speaker 1: because I couldn't get past the current UH. Last year
Speaker 1: I was able to do it. I finished the whole thing,
Speaker 1: even though it was a mile longer than the year
Speaker 1: before because of UH. One of the entry points was
Speaker 1: was changed in the local or the exit points was changed.
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I I want to we'll see
Speaker 1: if I gotta get the training in this summer if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, because without training, those currents eat
Speaker 1: you alive. I'm telling you I I spent twenty five
Speaker 1: minutes from the Statue of Liberty and didn't move, and
Speaker 1: I was swimming as hard as I could. And that's
Speaker 1: how that's how strowing the current is. These Navy seals
Speaker 1: are animals. Uh, the way they swim, I'd like to
Speaker 1: we'll see, I hope. So it's been a fun thing
Speaker 1: to do, and why not make it a third Well,
Speaker 1: I was such a great swimmer and Special Forces they
Speaker 1: put me on a mountain team. So, uh, hats off
Speaker 1: to you, Pete for even attempting that. So uh, you
Speaker 1: know that's uh, you know, I wouldn't want to swim
Speaker 1: with those dudes. They they're very good at what they do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just look like like a fool, But I do
Speaker 1: my best. Hey, that's it's all for the for the events.
Speaker 1: So no, I hope you get a chance to do
Speaker 1: it this year. But you know again, I saw on
Speaker 1: one of the shows where you mentioned, you know, having
Speaker 1: some issues there and one of the seals helped you
Speaker 1: out a little bit, but pulled me through the water. Yes,
Speaker 1: I noticed on the you know one the modern vets
Speaker 1: A vets show. Excuse me, you have a couple of
Speaker 1: tats and uh, I saw the cross rifles, which next
Speaker 1: a cross arrows is the best, uh, you know tattoo
Speaker 1: there is. But is there a favorite of yours? Oh man,
Speaker 1: Probably the first one that I got that my wife
Speaker 1: and I designed. It's it's a cross with a sword
Speaker 1: in the middle, and it's based on Matthew ten thirty
Speaker 1: four and the idea that when Jesus said, I didn't
Speaker 1: come to bring peace but a sword, and of course
Speaker 1: he meant that sort of when when you when you
Speaker 1: truly believe and you truly invest, it's not going to
Speaker 1: be easy, but you're doing it for uh, for for
Speaker 1: the King of kings. So that's that one. Right on
Speaker 1: my forearm is the one that's most special. Right next
Speaker 1: to it is a tattoo I got in Bethlehem for
Speaker 1: one of the is one of the Fox Nations specials
Speaker 1: I did called Battle in Bethlehem about the birthplace of Jesus.
Speaker 1: How to be You know, Christians are being pushed out,
Speaker 1: but one of the last Christian, the old Christian tattoo artists,
Speaker 1: the only tattoo artist in Bethlehem gave me a tattoo
Speaker 1: that says Jesus in Hebrew, and that was a pretty
Speaker 1: cool one to get. I think it's the only interview
Speaker 1: I've ever done while getting tattooed, So that's cool. You know,
Speaker 1: of all the times I've been to Israel, I've never
Speaker 1: seen a tattoo shop there. Well, that's not really a thing,
Speaker 1: it's not so it, but but for Christians who go
Speaker 1: there on a pilgrimage, they often want to get a
Speaker 1: small cross tattoo. And so he has been doing that
Speaker 1: for years. And uh, we found out about him through
Speaker 1: the media and went and interviewed. The scary part was
Speaker 1: he really couldn't talk freely. He talked freely with me
Speaker 1: off camera, but not on camera because uh, and we
Speaker 1: spoke on camera, but he had to be very careful
Speaker 1: because he's faces such intimidation from Islamist groups. They're even
Speaker 1: just to exist. M hm. Yeah, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: funny because you mentioned the cross tattoo. I know this
Speaker 1: wasn't on our list of questions to talk about, but
Speaker 1: you know, just last week we had the nationals Day
Speaker 1: of Prayer and I was in a National Day of Prayer.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mention God wants unbelievable. It's uh, oh, it's it's indicative.
Speaker 1: First of all, we don't even know if Jill Biden
Speaker 1: wrote it. Uh, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he delivered it, and he should be aware enough to
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. I mean, it's indicative of where
Speaker 1: the modern Democrat Party is. They've tried to strip God
Speaker 1: out of their party platform multiple times, only to barely
Speaker 1: eat it in. And you've got a real condescension to
Speaker 1: people of faith from the elites and in the media. Um,
Speaker 1: we're already a racing God from so many parts of
Speaker 1: our culture. Uh. But who are you praying to if
Speaker 1: not to God. I'm a national day of Prayer. So
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty pathetic and sad to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. But you know that's again that's just from
Speaker 1: my opinion. But I'm sure you agree with that, Pete.
Speaker 1: I know that. Uh. You know, time is short with
Speaker 1: you and we had to get you out by a
Speaker 1: certain time, so we're right up against that. I wish
Speaker 1: I could sit here and shoot the breeze with you
Speaker 1: all day, but I know you're busy. We want to
Speaker 1: thank you all for joining us today. Um, you know
Speaker 1: from softwarep everyone here at soft Rep. Thanks you. Thanks
Speaker 1: for all you do for our veterans community and and
Speaker 1: keep going with you know, uh, especially that I love
Speaker 1: that show Modern Warrior. Keep doing it. We'll keep doing
Speaker 1: it Fox and Friends on the weekends and and uh
Speaker 1: we'll be definitely tuning in. But thanks again for joining us.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thank you, Steve, my pleasure. Thanks
Speaker 1: for all you guys do. Okay, m hmm, well we're
Speaker 1: back here on Software Radio. We hope everyone enjoyed our interview.
Speaker 1: Although it was a little short. We we crimmed a
Speaker 1: lot in there with Pete Heggs. And right now, uh,
Speaker 1: joining me at the mike is soft Repson. Sean Spoots
Speaker 1: are managing editor, and we're gonna explained to you listeners
Speaker 1: out there why Pete was on the show and what
Speaker 1: we were talking about with Fox Nation, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into all of every before we do. Sean, welcome
Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Thank you, Thank you, Steve. It
Speaker 1: was really fun. That was that was a good interview.
Speaker 1: Um Pizza Pizza, great guy, nice job, nice job on
Speaker 1: that nice jove on that Scoopy almost got an out
Speaker 1: of them. He's gonna run for pretending for the scoop.
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get an exclusive there.
Speaker 1: You know, he seemed to hesitate for a second. But uh,
Speaker 1: now that was great. I mean, you know, hey, Sean
Speaker 1: Pete is a great guy, you know. And uh, that's
Speaker 1: why I figured i'd lead off with asking because we
Speaker 1: all know, I mean, his bravery is not even in question.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was an infantry guy in Iraq, Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: he worked in GIDMO. But for him to go on
Speaker 1: on live TV and hook himself up to a machine
Speaker 1: like he was giving birth on Fox and Friends on
Speaker 1: the weekend, that's so I said, hey, man, you get
Speaker 1: my vote, so hats off to you. Yeah. Really, no,
Speaker 1: I always I've always enjoyed watching my flox and kind
Speaker 1: of watched him sort of like coming too his own
Speaker 1: there on the channel. So I never remember doing that
Speaker 1: maniac feel swim saying cost to hutch stuff in the yard.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, headwaters cold and it's hard, the current strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah he he mentioned that, and you know that's uh,
Speaker 1: that is not a swim for the faint of heart.
Speaker 1: So no, no, not at all. Um. But we're here
Speaker 1: to talk about you know what we've been seeing here
Speaker 1: on Fox Nation, which is the the reason for this
Speaker 1: show this week. Is this really great offer that they
Speaker 1: are making during this week of Memorial Day. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a year free of Fox Nation for active duty
Speaker 1: and veterans. Um It's really easy to sign up for.
Speaker 1: I don't know why anybody wouldn't. It's a free year
Speaker 1: of Fox Nation and you could probably spend that year
Speaker 1: just trying to watch all the stuff that's that's on
Speaker 1: this on this service because it's it's really really good
Speaker 1: stuff it is. And you know, it's again to reiterate
Speaker 1: what Sean was just saying, Fox Nation is free for
Speaker 1: one year or all military members and veterans if you
Speaker 1: sign up between Monday and Monday, May thirty one. So
Speaker 1: there you go. I mean, I think that is outstanding.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've been going through all the shows
Speaker 1: and we reviewed quite a few of them. Our listeners
Speaker 1: out there for software, they're going to see reviews on
Speaker 1: all these shows and these were just some of the
Speaker 1: ones that we picked out that we believe that you
Speaker 1: will like. But as Sean was just saying, there is
Speaker 1: a plethora of shows on Fox Nation you can like.
Speaker 1: He said, I think you could spend uh a month
Speaker 1: watching something different every day. Yeah, I mean not only
Speaker 1: a plethora, but a lot of them. Yeah. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: some of the stuff I really ended up liking is
Speaker 1: binge watching. In fact, was the Patriots Allman Act that
Speaker 1: that has Bill Benny's to be in the Secretary of
Speaker 1: Education under the Reagaan administration. And this is a you know,
Speaker 1: these are like these two minutes on this day in
Speaker 1: history kind of vignettes and they're very interesting and I'm
Speaker 1: a history buff like you, and there was stuff in
Speaker 1: there I just never knew, you know, like they called
Speaker 1: Miami the Magic City was born in reason Miami. I
Speaker 1: never knew that, but that that was the nickname for Miami,
Speaker 1: was the Magic City. So all of these things, these
Speaker 1: a little two minute vignettes are about about things in
Speaker 1: the American in hisstory we don't even know about sometimes
Speaker 1: and the passion that you start watching on these can't stop. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's definitely something you want to check out. And
Speaker 1: there's like three hundred and sixty five of them, so
Speaker 1: you'll be you'll be buried in them. Another one is
Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlson stuff. He's got these in depth reports
Speaker 1: that are on this show are really good. They just
Speaker 1: didn't one on the A R fifteen, which was really
Speaker 1: good as a demystifying kind of coverage of what the
Speaker 1: A R fifteen is and how it's used. Um, it's
Speaker 1: it's very very interesting to watch. And if you're somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't know much about firearms and you want and
Speaker 1: out that, it really takes some of the mystery as
Speaker 1: they are fifteen why it's the most popular rifle in
Speaker 1: the country. So that's that's definitely one to check out
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and you know, the one that really
Speaker 1: struck home with me is one not as you know, uh,
Speaker 1: one of the shows that I reviewed, and The Hero Dogs.
Speaker 1: And as everyone who knows me knows, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: huge dog lover. I think dogs says a you know,
Speaker 1: definitely man's best friend. But this show, I mean, they
Speaker 1: had some uh working animals on there that you know,
Speaker 1: it's not just military dogs. There was dogs of work
Speaker 1: with the police. There were dogs that work with fire
Speaker 1: that was um, you know, one of them was a
Speaker 1: yellow lab. And the story will bring I'm telling you
Speaker 1: guys right now our listeners out there, that that story
Speaker 1: about the yellow apple bring Tess ees. Um, it was
Speaker 1: really really well done. And of course they it starts
Speaker 1: off you can't talk about hero dogs without talking about Cairo,
Speaker 1: who was on the modern rate. But there were so
Speaker 1: many others in you know, like Cairos Handler told us,
Speaker 1: and in that show, you know, Cairo's story didn't beginning,
Speaker 1: and and with the bin Laden ready he was a
Speaker 1: hero long before that and he was actually wounded in accident.
Speaker 1: That that one I really liked. And of course the
Speaker 1: show with Pete Modern Warriors just absolutely fantastic when he
Speaker 1: had the special Ops guys on there, a couple of
Speaker 1: Navy seals, green beret and a Army ranger. That was
Speaker 1: probably my favorite episode. And you know, Pete was saying
Speaker 1: that that was a fun one for him as well.
Speaker 1: Brandon Webb I got one a lot too. I understand
Speaker 1: that there's a new episode coming out for Memorial Days,
Speaker 1: so um, I always look forward to those as well.
Speaker 1: I really liked the idea of history coming to us
Speaker 1: in the voices of the people who participated in You know,
Speaker 1: for a long time history books were written by historians,
Speaker 1: and now because of the way the modern media technology exists,
Speaker 1: now that now the stories can be told by the
Speaker 1: people who were there, who were the participants. They don't
Speaker 1: have to be writers, they don't have to access the
Speaker 1: publishing houses, um. They can get in front of the
Speaker 1: camera of the moderator like Pete and tell their stories
Speaker 1: in the very real way. An example of that is
Speaker 1: one of the documentaries they had one Approximation that they did,
Speaker 1: a really really good one about the Battle of Muga
Speaker 1: Tissue And one of the things I liked about that
Speaker 1: is that it was the story with the participants of
Speaker 1: the battle being interviewed, and they got the right people
Speaker 1: to talk about that battle as well, and they didn't
Speaker 1: use any reenactors. They had enough combat footage to actually
Speaker 1: move that story without going with any kind of reconstructive
Speaker 1: re enactment kind of stuff in that in that documentary,
Speaker 1: which I think made it really good, and it's a
Speaker 1: very nice, tight narrative. You come out of that thing
Speaker 1: really with I think a better understanding of how that
Speaker 1: battle went, and then maybe even you did from a
Speaker 1: movie like Black Hawk Down, I think you actually got
Speaker 1: a better narrative out of Out of the Battle of
Speaker 1: Moga Tissue um as a chronology and how it all worked.
Speaker 1: Then then you really even get with that Hollywood blockbuster
Speaker 1: Moy which is a phenomenally was like one of the
Speaker 1: best world movies ever made. But but the documentary is
Speaker 1: is really really good. Do you like the sports coverage too,
Speaker 1: I know that they do a lot. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: having covered the NFL and being uh able to you know,
Speaker 1: work with the New England Patriots at times. And one
Speaker 1: of the guys I really really admires Jim Gray. And
Speaker 1: Jim Gray, you know, his his show on Fox Nation
Speaker 1: Talking with Goats, And it's not the you know, like
Speaker 1: the movie you know, the Men who Talked to Ghosts.
Speaker 1: This is talking about you know, talking with the greatest
Speaker 1: of all time in different sports. And you know, he
Speaker 1: did one with Tom Brady, he does one with you know.
Speaker 1: It just goes on and on and on. And Jim
Speaker 1: Gray is one of the best sports interviewers because he
Speaker 1: has that he has that manner about him that I
Speaker 1: really admire because he can talk to somebody and actually
Speaker 1: be friends with. He's friends with a lot of the
Speaker 1: people that he's interviewed and given tough interviews with, guys
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali's family
Speaker 1: still talks about Jim Gray, like he's a member of
Speaker 1: the family, and these are the kind of shows that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get on Fox Nation. And that to me
Speaker 1: was a really really good one. Well one of our guys,
Speaker 1: you know, um, Matt loved the lower organ stuff about
Speaker 1: the boards that that was. I've had a chance to
Speaker 1: watch that, and it's it's really it's not coverage you'll
Speaker 1: seeing any other network. No, nobody's doing anything is in
Speaker 1: depth on on what's going off the board in terms
Speaker 1: of the crisis of it, like she asked. And that
Speaker 1: lady is absolutely fearless. I've seen her reporting for years
Speaker 1: and there is she's like unstoppable, um, almost almost crazy
Speaker 1: in terms of the commitment to get into a story. Um,
Speaker 1: I've seen her get roughed up a few times trying
Speaker 1: to cut the story. I mean she's in Egypt. In
Speaker 1: Egypt that it got scary. I mean what happened to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you have talked about somebody wants to get
Speaker 1: a story that bad. I mean that is you almost
Speaker 1: watch it just because you know there's nobody who's committed
Speaker 1: to trying to get into it. Have you watched any
Speaker 1: of the Secret History stuff that's really good some of them. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to watch those. I I watched
Speaker 1: some of the Fox Outdoors. Um. Yeah, I've watched some
Speaker 1: of Lara Logan stuff. As you know, you just mentioned,
Speaker 1: um that's a great series or some good stuff in there. Um.
Speaker 1: And and then I think you mentioned it earlier or
Speaker 1: you might have. You may have mentioned it before we
Speaker 1: went on. We were talking about the The Alley of Sin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's part of their crime reporting um section. And that one,
Speaker 1: that one you have to watch. Don't watch before you
Speaker 1: go to bed, because it'll give you, it'll give you
Speaker 1: a nightmares. It's about it's about you. Remember the mcbucke
Speaker 1: preschool trial back in the early nineties is out in
Speaker 1: California where they roped up all these people on these
Speaker 1: trumped up false accusations of child molestation and they you know,
Speaker 1: put people in prison, and then the all thing came
Speaker 1: apart and they had that let all these people out,
Speaker 1: turned out they were completely innocent. Well, they ended up
Speaker 1: doing this again. The same thing happened in this town
Speaker 1: in Washington, stay small town where they allegedly found twenty
Speaker 1: nine thousand instances of child sexual abuse, and this ring
Speaker 1: of pedophiles and all turned out to be nonsense and
Speaker 1: none of that was true. And this is like a
Speaker 1: six part series that I just couldn't turn away from.
Speaker 1: It was so horrifying because you can't help but identify
Speaker 1: with these people who were like falsely accused and their
Speaker 1: wives destroyed, and anybody who spoke up and said, look,
Speaker 1: you know this is bad they didend up getting charged too.
Speaker 1: It was there was a pastor in a church who
Speaker 1: was saying, look this isn't this is bad what we're
Speaker 1: doing and this is wrong. Next thing you know, he's
Speaker 1: being charged, which was horrifying. And I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go through the ending of the thing, but it does.
Speaker 1: It does end up working out pretty well. But it's
Speaker 1: an example of just how awesomely terrifying the power of
Speaker 1: the state can be when it's directed at someone and
Speaker 1: then and the government has been very careful about pointing
Speaker 1: it's awesome power and authority at at people because it's
Speaker 1: so hard to turn it around once it's been directed
Speaker 1: at it. It's almost you know, they say, you can't
Speaker 1: take a bullet back after it's fired, and it works
Speaker 1: like that with these things too. Once they get on
Speaker 1: the direction that there are it's almost impossible or then
Speaker 1: to stop, and it just keeps going and going and
Speaker 1: going and going, and the dozens and dozens of people
Speaker 1: in their lives world by by these false accusations and
Speaker 1: the worst accusation that you can literally have leveled against you. Really, um,
Speaker 1: and you just h it was awful and it's and
Speaker 1: it didn't happen in New York or Chicago or so,
Speaker 1: it happened in this little town where this whole thing happened. Well,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think this sort of power could exist and
Speaker 1: be put to such abusive needs, but but it didn't.
Speaker 1: And it's it's a really it's a really hard thing
Speaker 1: to watch because you're just like a mix of anger
Speaker 1: and and frustration and what were they thinking? Is that
Speaker 1: there anybody to say stopped? This is ridiculous? I mean
Speaker 1: it was. It's really something to watch. It's very very
Speaker 1: well done. I think that it's called Valley it set.
Speaker 1: So if you if you haven't seen it, or if
Speaker 1: you have, make sure you mentioned the comments here on
Speaker 1: the podcast. But I was, I was very moved by
Speaker 1: what I saw that it was like angry too at
Speaker 1: the abuses of government authority there, but on a lighter note.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about destination Chernobyl. So you know me, we
Speaker 1: talked about this. I love documentary series, I mean I
Speaker 1: really do, and this one, I'm I'm big Chernola happening
Speaker 1: while I was still in the military, and that was
Speaker 1: a big mystery about what was going on because of
Speaker 1: course it's the Soviet Union and they lie. But this
Speaker 1: this takes you to Chernobyl and walks you through the
Speaker 1: actual town and Propriat brings you basically right up to
Speaker 1: where the reactor containment vessel is that they built around
Speaker 1: this huge French come it's like the largest movable man
Speaker 1: made structure on the planet. He spent like a billion
Speaker 1: dollars on or something. But it's really it's really interesting
Speaker 1: to go there with cameras now and see the sort
Speaker 1: of ghost region in the Ukraine that Chernobyl and represent
Speaker 1: now in the world. They talk a little about the
Speaker 1: environment there, said it's had some very weird environmental effects,
Speaker 1: like there's no birds. There's no birds, so there's you
Speaker 1: have those all those beautiful forces. No birds, Well it's
Speaker 1: because there's no trees that grow berries, so there's no
Speaker 1: stuff and them to eat. And apparently even bugs have
Speaker 1: really returned to the area. They're they're missing birds. So
Speaker 1: it's like it took this weird ecosystem that's growing and
Speaker 1: there's still stuff that's five It was wolves, an elk
Speaker 1: and be huge deer and all this other stuff boxes,
Speaker 1: but there's like pieces missing from the ecosystem that was
Speaker 1: caused by the intense radiation. I mean, I can't remember
Speaker 1: what the number was, but it was something like five
Speaker 1: hundred horosiam bombs. It was the equivalent of it was
Speaker 1: like it was like hitting this town with five hundred horosiampoms,
Speaker 1: which is an unbelievable amount of radiation. It's amazing. It
Speaker 1: isn't just a big smoking whole. Still um, nature and
Speaker 1: life is pretty amazing the way it comes back, but
Speaker 1: it comes back different. You know, everything's got his DNA
Speaker 1: altered over there. And then there's actual tourism. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I would go. I'm not sure actually respect radiation.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to visit a lot of places,
Speaker 1: but you noble, it's not it's not at the top
Speaker 1: of my bucket list. Well, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would trust the Russian decimeter to tell me how
Speaker 1: much radiation I had gotten exactly. You know, you're fine.
Speaker 1: You and I are close to the same age, so
Speaker 1: we grew up in that generation where you know, I
Speaker 1: still kind of think of them guys as our enemy. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I know we've turned into our grandfather's right old cold
Speaker 1: warriors now, but back then it was our grandfathers couldn't
Speaker 1: stand the Japanese and the Germans. Yes, I will never
Speaker 1: own a Japanese car, you know that kind of thing. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. We do get like that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we got our Russians. You can't trust them, you
Speaker 1: can't trust them, which I don't think anyone would really
Speaker 1: disagree with us on anything. No, especially the way things
Speaker 1: are going today. But another really good show, and it's
Speaker 1: been popular around other platforms to Dynasty, it's now Ucination. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you like that show? You're a fan of that.
Speaker 1: I've I've never been a big fan of it, but
Speaker 1: you know, I've watched bits and pieces of it through
Speaker 1: the years because your flippants for the Down and you
Speaker 1: see it on and these were guys who are just
Speaker 1: you know, good old country boys, and they figured out
Speaker 1: a way to make themselves extremely, extremely wealthy. So they
Speaker 1: were doing Yeah, they had a business that was duck calls,
Speaker 1: calls they made. They made duck calls. They're big duck hunters,
Speaker 1: and it turned into a thing. It took off as
Speaker 1: a business and they were you know really and then
Speaker 1: they got the show and the family itself is so
Speaker 1: entertaining to watch that you just can't turn it away.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, don't start watching it, because then you
Speaker 1: won't be able to not watch it. That's my attack
Speaker 1: because if you you get two or three episodes and
Speaker 1: you're just like, Okay, Ileana, what's kind of go want next?
Speaker 1: What happens with Willie? But you know I'm gonna happen
Speaker 1: what happens up to that last show? Yet Duct Tunis
Speaker 1: has been all the time, Like I didn't know even
Speaker 1: that so many seasons they had, but they're all on there.
Speaker 1: So if you haven't seen any one to revisited, it's
Speaker 1: all their Unflexnation, which is which is pretty cool stuff,
Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff. We you and I we've watched shows
Speaker 1: on that network before, so I didn't realize the breadth
Speaker 1: and depth until I really started to look into it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's a lot of stuff here,
Speaker 1: a lot of nuggets um a lot of even some
Speaker 1: of these small shows, some of these small documentaries. I
Speaker 1: loved the paintball when they did Paintball Nation that was
Speaker 1: that was like great fun show to watch. Um from
Speaker 1: about the history of this game with one of these
Speaker 1: teams that's been around since like the very beginning, like
Speaker 1: going back into the eighties. I played. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you had that kind of stuff recreationally available to
Speaker 1: on our any basis. When I was a youngster back
Speaker 1: in the Navy, we weren't allowed as a rescuer, weren't
Speaker 1: allowed to play any contact bots, we weren't allowed to
Speaker 1: play football or any that stuff. Because you're working up
Speaker 1: to a deployment, you get hurt, you can't go. So
Speaker 1: they would court martial you for unnecessarily hazarding government property
Speaker 1: with your broken shoulder playing football. So they had paintball
Speaker 1: guns in Norfolk and we go running around the woods
Speaker 1: with these single shots paintball guns and shooting. It was
Speaker 1: great fun. And this is back in like Chief four
Speaker 1: five and now it's like a sport. Is millions and
Speaker 1: millions of people who play this. It's great recreation. And
Speaker 1: I played paintball with my son for about seven seventy
Speaker 1: years and then played with a team of veterans and
Speaker 1: was really it was great fun. It was it was
Speaker 1: very very fun times camping within the field and playing
Speaker 1: these games and shooting at people. Everybody gets up afterward
Speaker 1: and they're fine, but it's a real a drunk rush.
Speaker 1: It really is a lot of fun. But this, the
Speaker 1: story about this paintball team is really fun. But then
Speaker 1: um going all the way from the nineteen eighties. These
Speaker 1: guys were called them astro Blasters, and they they've been
Speaker 1: a team forever and then he takes them up to
Speaker 1: Chicago to these national championships. But it's a it's fun
Speaker 1: to watch. It's a's really kind of an interesting thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the other smaller shows that I like is
Speaker 1: is involved with different years in the calendar. It's called
Speaker 1: Who Can Forget? And uh yeah, yeah, Who Can Forget?
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty nine and they're talking about Woodstock Abbey
Speaker 1: Road with the Beatles, the first moon Landing Easy writer
Speaker 1: Charlie Manson and chap A Cuittic all happened in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty nine. I think my favorite one was though, So
Speaker 1: that was that was a good one, But I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know with Ali North and you know, yeah, Ran
Speaker 1: Contra and all that. What do you what do you
Speaker 1: remember about the moon lighting? Where were you in the
Speaker 1: follow out of moment? You know, when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I was enthralled with this, you know, NASA and the
Speaker 1: entire space thing. I think, like every other kid back then,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an astronaut. And you know, back
Speaker 1: then you were plugged into ABC because um now I'm
Speaker 1: forgetting his last name, Jules somebody used to be the
Speaker 1: science reporter for ABC, and oh I just had it
Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue. Now it's just gone.
Speaker 1: But did the launch it well then, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But on ABC, yeah, I mean, you know they take
Speaker 1: it through and I remember glued to my parents television, said,
Speaker 1: watching the guy's land on the moon and then you know,
Speaker 1: watching Neil Armstrong go down. I mean, those were incredible days,
Speaker 1: you know, and the technology you has increased so much
Speaker 1: that you know, the computer that was on board those
Speaker 1: guys landing on the moon had one megabyte of memory
Speaker 1: right yourself from right now. It was more powerful than
Speaker 1: everything nast I had in nine. Well, I was nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty nine. I was just I was an elementary school
Speaker 1: kid and remember being woken up out of bed by
Speaker 1: my mother with my sister who had some people over
Speaker 1: at the house, and they were all cuddled around like
Speaker 1: a thirteen inch black and white television side and I
Speaker 1: didn't know why I was being looking up, and she said,
Speaker 1: they're going to walk on the moon. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: And I went outside because I thought I could see it.
Speaker 1: I figured it was like I thought I could see
Speaker 1: the moon. I could see him walking. I had no
Speaker 1: idea how big it actually was. And I'm being brought
Speaker 1: back inside to watch. Why would you go outside because
Speaker 1: I thought, I aren't they gonna walk on the moon?
Speaker 1: Can you see them? And then I watched it, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was marveling. Now, as an adult, imagine
Speaker 1: that we flew to the moon and everybody here in
Speaker 1: this country was watching it on a thirteen inch black
Speaker 1: and white television side. You know, they went to the
Speaker 1: moon and we watched it on a little cathode ray
Speaker 1: to t V. A thirteen inch television is in is
Speaker 1: in the back of your suburban now, you know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's hanging up in a minivan. It's not even
Speaker 1: it's not a TV back then. That was like you
Speaker 1: were playing some money out for television. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of It was a lot of money. And no though,
Speaker 1: who can remember threes? That's who can forget thres? Those
Speaker 1: are really good. But what about Nixon was really good too,
Speaker 1: because I remember, yeah ninety four with the whole Nixon thing.
Speaker 1: And again I remember, you know, because I was at
Speaker 1: school then, and you know, we're seeing it on the
Speaker 1: nose play out every night, and we're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the heck is going on. And you know,
Speaker 1: you you grow up believing nobody in our government does
Speaker 1: anything bad. It's people in other governments. Then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they can get the bad rap. Too soon? Is that
Speaker 1: too soon for me to say he gets a bad rap?
Speaker 1: So well? No, he did some amazing stuff, I mean them.
Speaker 1: He signed a permitive he signed permitive action in the law. Um,
Speaker 1: he was the guy that also he and Henry Kissinger
Speaker 1: did that did that thing where they spoke China away
Speaker 1: from the Soviet Union, which was which was really something. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if opening up China was such a
Speaker 1: good idea and retrospect look forward, but he took an
Speaker 1: awful lot of pressure off the United States militarily by
Speaker 1: getting China and Russia to look at each other as
Speaker 1: adversaries instead of allies, especially after of what had happened
Speaker 1: in you know, places like Korea being nound Southeast Asia.
Speaker 1: So he was he was pretty pretty smart technically minded, um,
Speaker 1: but he but he had some but he had some
Speaker 1: other problems. I've read some stuff and that whole Watergate
Speaker 1: thing it was about about him being par annoyed about
Speaker 1: the election being stolen from and they went into that
Speaker 1: Watergate hotel to look for evidence that the Democrats were
Speaker 1: trying to pull some kind of flim flam in that election.
Speaker 1: And boy did come back by him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wasn't directly involved. He just knew about it after the
Speaker 1: fact and didn't say, okay, guys, sorry, you know what,
Speaker 1: he did this in my name. Can't do that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to, you know, have to catch a loot.
Speaker 1: But instead he tried to He basically tried to cover
Speaker 1: for him, and that's what killed him. History has forgotten
Speaker 1: that he wasn't directly involved, and he was involved in
Speaker 1: as an accessory after the right thing obviously would have
Speaker 1: been the sound case. He can't go breaking into hotels
Speaker 1: to try and find out, if you know, the election
Speaker 1: fraund going on, which is kind of interesting give in
Speaker 1: the last election we had same kind of the same
Speaker 1: kind of issues come up. There wasn't there wasn't a
Speaker 1: Watergate break and it was a breaking into Congress basically.
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