Speaker 1: Hey, Fucker's what up? It's Christina Hutchinson and Karen Fisher.
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Speaker 1: on Luminary. Uh. This week's guest is Michael Rappaport. You've
Speaker 1: seen him on A Typical, You've heard him on his
Speaker 1: Luminary original podcast. I am Rappaport. He's a friend of
Speaker 1: the show, a stand up comedian, just an all around
Speaker 1: amazing person. Uh. So you can listen to a clip
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Speaker 1: an athlete, like I always try. I'm not a sports fan,
Speaker 1: but I think, like I watch a lot of sports
Speaker 1: documentaries and like, this is the mentality I want to
Speaker 1: put in a comedy. That's the discipline you have to
Speaker 1: put in. Do you love yourself? Ha ha? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love myself. I definitely, yeah, I love myself. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I'm like I think I'm very fair with myself.
Speaker 1: You know, there's things that conditional. Yeah, but yeah, is
Speaker 1: that a standard question you guys asked? No, I just wanted.
Speaker 1: I was curious because it seems like you do, but
Speaker 1: I want of men, I don't think do or don't
Speaker 1: even really think about that question. I yeah, And also
Speaker 1: I mean this has been are encouraged to think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny that you asked that because I was like
Speaker 1: up all night. You know, I'm going through some things,
Speaker 1: but like some real things, not some like you know,
Speaker 1: baby things. Um and uh, I was just thinking, like,
Speaker 1: how what a disservice it it was? It is, you know,
Speaker 1: during a time of emotional need, that most people don't
Speaker 1: love themselves. And I was able to think of like that.
Speaker 1: I wasulous, Like, so loving myself is my secret power.
Speaker 1: I'm not even that talented. I just like myself and
Speaker 1: I truly mean that. It's like being funny since I
Speaker 1: was a little kid. So that's really the only talent
Speaker 1: I have is like confidence and trying to help instill
Speaker 1: it in others. That's all I got. Nothing else. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty funny. You know that's fine. You didn't the face
Speaker 1: like but it's fine rent the runway, um, but so
Speaker 1: uh so I was trying to think of, like how
Speaker 1: like that's like my my burden to bear. He's like
Speaker 1: other people not loving themselves, and how that can hold
Speaker 1: you back if you're someone who loves loves yourself, no
Speaker 1: matter if you don't care what they think of you
Speaker 1: or not their their ship still gets in your way
Speaker 1: and you have like knock them down basically. And I
Speaker 1: was able to think of like maybe three people I've
Speaker 1: met in my entire life who I can truly say
Speaker 1: have a deep self love for themselves. And I don't
Speaker 1: even like all those people, but I but I respect
Speaker 1: them because I recognize that they have that and so
Speaker 1: whether or not we get along is not the problem.
Speaker 1: But they don't create any burden or barrier for my life.
Speaker 1: And it's like so slim and like even with dating
Speaker 1: people like that is one of the main things I
Speaker 1: look for. But men are especially good at tricking you
Speaker 1: into thinking that they love themselves, and then you don't
Speaker 1: find out to like a year in like they can
Speaker 1: do a great they start hating you for loving Yeah,
Speaker 1: because this is somehow I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: part of you fucking Verry sneaky. A second, yea second?
Speaker 1: How do you find out that they how do you
Speaker 1: come to the um for someone who talks as much
Speaker 1: as we think? How do you come up with the uh,
Speaker 1: the the the idea or the answer or the conclusion
Speaker 1: that somebody or a guy specifically in a dating situation
Speaker 1: doesn't love themselves because the like so many onion begins
Speaker 1: to you know, peel itself. Now we're all the best
Speaker 1: version of us at the top. Yeah, but so a
Speaker 1: guy show starts showing real early the behaviors to like,
Speaker 1: especially with it with being a woman, you know, in
Speaker 1: a position where you can experience a great deal of success.
Speaker 1: So one of the one of the key factors that
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with yourself or one of the dead giveaways,
Speaker 1: and I should say, is that you are not able
Speaker 1: to someone you supposedly love. You are not able to
Speaker 1: enjoy their success and like truly congratulate them on their
Speaker 1: six says. It makes you feel less. That's that's one
Speaker 1: of the dead giveaways for I got you, I got you,
Speaker 1: And you'll find that out until you're already in it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm married, this is second time I'm married, but
Speaker 1: I would you say, I said, I know, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I always prided my wife by the way it is
Speaker 1: heavily search yeah, right, always pride of myself when I
Speaker 1: was in the dating world. Yeah, of snorting, eating the
Speaker 1: way I eat, and picking my nose right away to
Speaker 1: try to let you know, this is what you're going
Speaker 1: to get the bat okay, like have your nose huh
Speaker 1: you flick it on the wall? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, it's because it's also has to do
Speaker 1: with being a Jew, and it's flem. It's flem. It's
Speaker 1: I will accept this as an answer. That's learning about
Speaker 1: my people anyway. But but but I don't know those
Speaker 1: things are those things are just little laser made that's
Speaker 1: not really like, that's not that's not a huge deal.
Speaker 1: And then it gets so much worse downhill. So you're
Speaker 1: just like this is the hill and now we're going
Speaker 1: down with it. Like, what are you're like as far
Speaker 1: as interacting with your partner? What are your most difficult
Speaker 1: qualities to deal with? In your opinion? Got an you
Speaker 1: look to burden yourself. I mean probably just moodiness. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a hard one. Yah. Yeah, I've gotten way better
Speaker 1: at that so many people are mooding. Moodiness is hard
Speaker 1: for me. I'm saying, that's hard for me to deal with.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just like the general I'm like the
Speaker 1: same general kind of bad mood all the time. But
Speaker 1: it's predictable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you that. I
Speaker 1: understand that. I've definitely gotten better with that. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: gotten way better with that. Um shit, um, I mean
Speaker 1: all the regular things. I mean, you know, there's as
Speaker 1: you I hate to say it, but as you get
Speaker 1: a little old, like it's just like it just you
Speaker 1: just slow down a little bit. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: like when you talk about sports, they'll go, oh, they're
Speaker 1: able to see the game. The game slows down. I swear.
Speaker 1: As it's just like in the last five or six years,
Speaker 1: especially when you have kids and ship like that, you're
Speaker 1: able to see the game a little better, so you're
Speaker 1: able to see yourself a little better and also see
Speaker 1: your tendencies a little better. When I was younger, like,
Speaker 1: and I'm just talking about like fucking ten years ago,
Speaker 1: five six, maybe like ten years ago, you know, just
Speaker 1: temper and you know, just moody and and and just
Speaker 1: you know, maybe selfish and you know, all the all
Speaker 1: the all the good ones classic, but you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm listen, I'm a fucking I'm a I'm a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm a lot. I'm a lot. And also what does
Speaker 1: that mean? I mean, yeah, you feel things and you
Speaker 1: act on them. Yeah, but that to me is you're
Speaker 1: human in your body, like you you you don't ignore
Speaker 1: your own feelings, can we that's sexy? And then you
Speaker 1: get get the person home and then exactly exactly that's
Speaker 1: all those things that you could fill in different I'll
Speaker 1: thost things, but I definitely feel like I've gotten, you know,
Speaker 1: way better and slow down a little bit in terms
Speaker 1: of my reaction period that I think that's like like
Speaker 1: if I have an Achilles heel, my uh, emotions and
Speaker 1: reaction has been my achilling when you say like third
Speaker 1: grade emotions, reaction that's been like my achilles here, like
Speaker 1: that's like like my my thing. And and when did
Speaker 1: that start? Like you out the back? My mother told me.
Speaker 1: And I used to resent this when I was younger,
Speaker 1: since we're in like the psychotherapy kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: like my mother, when I was like nineteen, you like
Speaker 1: you came out like this, you came out like this
Speaker 1: in like, you know, through my twenties, I'm going to
Speaker 1: therapy and then I'm like, you know, trying to have
Speaker 1: what's the conversation when you sort of not confront them,
Speaker 1: but you have like an intervention, not to interven you,
Speaker 1: but you you sort of want to have like a
Speaker 1: conversation with your parents, you know. But whatever that there
Speaker 1: was a term to it, and my mother and my
Speaker 1: father were both like, yo, you were a fucking pain
Speaker 1: in the ass. You were a fucking pain in And
Speaker 1: then when I had kids, and you see how one
Speaker 1: comes out one way and the other comes out there
Speaker 1: other way, and you look at them trying to understand it.
Speaker 1: I understand it way more now. Thank god. Neither one
Speaker 1: of them was fucking as nuts as I was when
Speaker 1: I came out. But my mother swore by you just
Speaker 1: came out like this, and you know, and it's a
Speaker 1: hard thing that when you're like in your twenties and
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out your feelings and your thoughts,
Speaker 1: you're like, no, what happened to Yeah? Why did you? Like?
Speaker 1: She was like, I didn't want to talk to you. You
Speaker 1: You are a fucking pain in the fucking ass. So
Speaker 1: you know, wow, now, but do do you exhaust yourself? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh you do. I would because I would think You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling this is what I'm doing. I'm reacted. I'm
Speaker 1: pissed at this person. You say exhaust, I exhaust myself, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: Like I already know today is going to be an
Speaker 1: exhausting day because I'm doing your podcast. So it's you know,
Speaker 1: you guys know, and especially if you do podcast by yourself,
Speaker 1: which the majority of the Iron Rappaport Cereo podcasts, also
Speaker 1: a luminary which was doing great until Dave Chappelle came along.
Speaker 1: Um but no, you know, like when you're like, uh
Speaker 1: talking a lot of ship thinking, like the way you guys,
Speaker 1: you know, making me think, and then all that stuff
Speaker 1: and then you know, my own sort of personal like
Speaker 1: thoughts throughout the day, like even when I was across
Speaker 1: the street at the deli, like you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: and all that ship. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like sometimes I'm like, what the funk is? Like what
Speaker 1: GE's swept up? In storms that happened in your own head?
Speaker 1: That's what you're always are you ever present? Yes? Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm president. I'm president. I'm definitely president. But yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: when I'm alone, it's more that. But when I'm I'm
Speaker 1: definitely present. Yeah. Do you carry fears around with you? Like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like of what anything? Like general ones? Fun?
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many, I mean fears of you know,
Speaker 1: so money there at the surface all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would say my general things are probably one of
Speaker 1: my biggest fears is fucking fucking up, like saying something
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna regret, Like trying to be as honest
Speaker 1: as I possible. That's one of your biggest fears. But
Speaker 1: it makes sense because because that, you know, I think
Speaker 1: when you're super outspoken, and I mean I'm not as
Speaker 1: not spoken as you, but I do. I do aspire
Speaker 1: today you are you are and idol um no. But
Speaker 1: I mean like it's because you you want to be honest,
Speaker 1: and I think, like you know, I would imagine like
Speaker 1: when you're not when you're not honest, it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like gross. That's how it is for me, Like
Speaker 1: I have to be honest, you know, you pull your
Speaker 1: punches otherwise otherwise you just I just feel like why
Speaker 1: am I in this business? If I'm going, you know,
Speaker 1: like if I'm be acting seven and but then at
Speaker 1: a certain point, especially in this climate that we're in
Speaker 1: right now, you if you say it's like, you don't
Speaker 1: have to say everything. You can still be honest without
Speaker 1: saying every thought that crosses your mind that I'm one
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