Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. You look starter at home,
Speaker 1: man after the office, what's in office? Welcome to another
Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is
Speaker 1: Dan Hanss. I come to you from a virtual room
Speaker 1: filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal. I'm back on the show.
Speaker 1: And what I treat Matt money Smith. Yes, now we're
Speaker 1: back to work, right, this is the beginning. Now, this
Speaker 1: is the beginning. It feels like in NFL now returned
Speaker 1: today the television show which sometimes uh puts us on.
Speaker 1: Matt money Smith has hosted it in the past. That's
Speaker 1: like we had a standing segment. Actually you and I
Speaker 1: it would like show a little highlights. Uh. It does
Speaker 1: feel like we're like cranking back up. We have two
Speaker 1: podcasts this week. We have a TV show this week.
Speaker 1: It is like buckle buckle up until February. How about
Speaker 1: you Money? You're ready? You ready for that? Dan? Oh? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: that is that is critical to the success or failure
Speaker 1: of NFL Network and NFL Digital Properties. What I do. Look,
Speaker 1: you guys are the Uh think of it as you're
Speaker 1: the granite, right, You're the You're the granite, You're the marble,
Speaker 1: and I am simply the cock that goes between those
Speaker 1: ties to make sure that everybody loves you know. That's
Speaker 1: the word on the street. Although it feels like maybe
Speaker 1: it's becoming less and less important, you know, like now
Speaker 1: there's self sticking tiles and we don't need as much
Speaker 1: cult as we used to, the world needs culk. It's important.
Speaker 1: Hey money. By the way, didn't we find out speaking
Speaker 1: of assignments, um did our Power Wrkings show get picked
Speaker 1: up for not to share too much? But the if
Speaker 1: it were even though today and seal beaches, I look
Speaker 1: out my in though it is a glorious seventy five
Speaker 1: and sonny, Uh, the forecast for the future of money
Speaker 1: is anything but sunny and seventy five. It's a bit
Speaker 1: cloudy and uncertain at a regular point. So I am
Speaker 1: not sure. I hope Power Rankings comes back. I hope
Speaker 1: I'm part of it. And uh, because you know, as
Speaker 1: far as I was concerned, it was, it was an anchor.
Speaker 1: I mean it was an anchor on which a day's
Speaker 1: programming was built around, you know, like they would drop
Speaker 1: power rankings in like okay, if we put this at
Speaker 1: three eastern, we can move this to two and then
Speaker 1: that way, you know, we can we can help power
Speaker 1: rankings can help cherry that as a leading and then
Speaker 1: it will help with an anchor that like dragged everything
Speaker 1: else down. No, no, it's not an albatross. Not an albatross.
Speaker 1: What about what about let's get away from the anchor,
Speaker 1: because Greg makes a good point, there's some negative connotations there.
Speaker 1: We were the Sun Okay, planets that works, that works.
Speaker 1: We were including uh, the one with Hawk and Cynthia,
Speaker 1: that one that's like a little like the planet that
Speaker 1: got that got run out of town? Which one got
Speaker 1: run out of town? The planet that was Uranus, Pluto,
Speaker 1: Pluto got popped in a big Pluto is nothing but
Speaker 1: a rock now it is no longer a planet. But
Speaker 1: but I would assume if if Greg's uh, pick them
Speaker 1: Pluto is Pluto Pluto returns, right, I believe to pick
Speaker 1: them show is certainly going to come back. It's coming back,
Speaker 1: It's come back. This is like a fake that they
Speaker 1: just they don't plan anything, and you don't know anything.
Speaker 1: And you you've been around this company long enough, you
Speaker 1: don't know anything until about mid August. This is like
Speaker 1: a fake first week back because the teams aren't really back.
Speaker 1: This is more us just like, alright, we're star This
Speaker 1: is like the beginning of the workout routine as we're
Speaker 1: starting to get ready for the big fight. It's the
Speaker 1: very beginning, now you know what that's I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought that up, Greg, because as a distance runner I
Speaker 1: would love for you to share with you around the
Speaker 1: NFL audience. What kind of warm upper are you when
Speaker 1: it comes to running your your marathons? Are you a
Speaker 1: butt kicker? Are you a high nees like do you
Speaker 1: kind of sprint back and forth in the parking lot
Speaker 1: before the gunfires off? Or you just like whatever, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna crush this banana, take a leak on this tree,
Speaker 1: and I'm running six point I don't I don't warm
Speaker 1: I don't really warm up. I guess oh wait, I
Speaker 1: only did a marathon once, but for the half or stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, maybe maybe just say to banana
Speaker 1: and you go there you go. I like a blood kicker,
Speaker 1: following by the p on the tree. That would be
Speaker 1: my call, bud kicker, super super super short dolphin shorts.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, two things. I can see Greg doing
Speaker 1: the two fingers in the vass, only no one rubbing
Speaker 1: his oh yeah, oh yeah, chaffing problem. I definitely vasslines
Speaker 1: on the nipples, that you make that mistake without at once,
Speaker 1: and that you don't do any Greg well known for
Speaker 1: his bloody nips. Um off, it's gonna be news heavy.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get caught up here because yes, we've been
Speaker 1: doing one show a week for a bit now, um,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have a show today Monday, Thursday. And
Speaker 1: by the way, we don't need it on the sub reddit,
Speaker 1: get off Twitter. Just relax, enjoy the summer. And I
Speaker 1: know the variant the delta variants out there, so I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say everything's great now and just you know,
Speaker 1: and to act like nothing's wrong. But Mark's fine. Mark's
Speaker 1: gonna be here on Thursday, and I hope if he's not,
Speaker 1: then worry. If Mark's not on the show on Thursday, worry,
Speaker 1: And then we had him right? Is that the issue
Speaker 1: with Mark? Mark's got COVID Mark does not have COVID,
Speaker 1: and I apologize that value wasn't clear enough. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Mark is. I don't know where he's at physically.
Speaker 1: I just know that he's alive and he's still with
Speaker 1: the company, and he'll be back Thursday, and then we'll
Speaker 1: be back with the network show on Friday. And before
Speaker 1: we get to the news, just want to ask a question,
Speaker 1: and I'll start with you, Mr Rosenthal, with your vassoline nips?
Speaker 1: Do you do a vassoline nip right before a podcast?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see it anymore that that was
Speaker 1: only for like a long, long race. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not running too far anymore. Did you ever let someone
Speaker 1: else apply it? Or is it always self application? The wife?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the only place that Assaline is going.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know right, it's the late night pod.
Speaker 1: We're gonna to wait till Justin Graver filling in for Ricky.
Speaker 1: Nobody's coming to the after Dark. This is gonna go
Speaker 1: up after midnight on the East coast, Justin al right,
Speaker 1: before we get into the news, Greg Uh. As we
Speaker 1: get back into the swing of things, we're not quite there.
Speaker 1: We're getting there, just like the NFL is getting there,
Speaker 1: But what would what would be something that would jolt
Speaker 1: you out of this off season malaise that we found
Speaker 1: ourselves in. Yeah, and I choose to view it like
Speaker 1: you do, just enjoying the summer. Once it went down
Speaker 1: to uh Money's neck of the woods and Otani delivered
Speaker 1: us a home run, you know, it's like it was
Speaker 1: worth the worth the price of admission to go there,
Speaker 1: even though they lost. Um. It's really you know, they're
Speaker 1: doing this thing where they're starting all the training camps
Speaker 1: on the same day, which I think will add to
Speaker 1: this um phenomenon even more. For me, it's it's the
Speaker 1: news flow of the first three days of training camp.
Speaker 1: So there's nothing that's gonna do it in the next
Speaker 1: twelve days. Because I always think, like I I still
Speaker 1: am a news junkie, and I'm waiting for that news
Speaker 1: flow to get rolling, um, to get my juices flowing,
Speaker 1: because I think it will because more happens in the
Speaker 1: first four or five days of training camp. I would say,
Speaker 1: to change how you're thinking about this season than happened
Speaker 1: from the draft on or really almost from free agency on.
Speaker 1: And I'll admit it, I am having harder time this
Speaker 1: year to get like you know, to get some engine revving.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's because of Chris, And at least for
Speaker 1: me at least, it's it's because this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the first season without Chris. And because after the year
Speaker 1: we you know, we've gone through not just the pandemic
Speaker 1: but obviously Chris, that we needed this time away and
Speaker 1: so cranking it back up and and getting ready for
Speaker 1: this first season we've ever done without him. And he's
Speaker 1: been part of my football season since two thousand nine, um,
Speaker 1: And so that that's it. But I do think that
Speaker 1: the it's injuries, it's position battles, it's contract it's different things.
Speaker 1: Like you have this whole idea and everyone just starts
Speaker 1: copying each other, and there's all these season previews out
Speaker 1: and they're all great and everything, and really you learned.
Speaker 1: I think you learned a lot in the first week
Speaker 1: of training camp, more than more than the entire off season,
Speaker 1: because the season is the teams in the season, and
Speaker 1: the players are always way different than you think they are.
Speaker 1: You think they are where you left them off last year,
Speaker 1: but they're just not. That's that's not how it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Some players are gonna rise, some some are gonna fall,
Speaker 1: and I think the news hound in me will get
Speaker 1: we'll get franking once those first three or four days
Speaker 1: that are rolling about you money well, I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but because I know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: but I think when we finally get that that closure
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is in Green Bay and he's going
Speaker 1: to be a Packer this year, that to me signals
Speaker 1: all right, we're in. We're because I do think he's
Speaker 1: gonna show up before, you know, at the start of
Speaker 1: training camp. I don't think he's gonna hold out and
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get any of that. And I think
Speaker 1: that'll signal that all of the off season rhetoric, oh
Speaker 1: could he be a Bronco, could be a Steeler? Like
Speaker 1: that will come to an end, right, and it's oh,
Speaker 1: our Aaron Rodgers and the Packers gonna win the NFC
Speaker 1: this year after knocking on the door of the last
Speaker 1: two and we get back to football con station, not
Speaker 1: off season what ifs. Yeah, I'm with you that that
Speaker 1: That was the first thing that popped into my mind.
Speaker 1: And I find myself just generally like maybe annoyed is
Speaker 1: not the right word. But just as I'm enjoying this summer,
Speaker 1: and that's been a lot of travel. I just got
Speaker 1: back from Denverum in Texas. Now I was in Californa,
Speaker 1: New Jersey before that. And and uh, and this Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers thing. Every time I'm at a bar or something
Speaker 1: like ESPN or probably our network to are inventing these
Speaker 1: stories to do what is Aaron Rodgers gonna do? Where
Speaker 1: is he gonna be next? And ultimately, as we know,
Speaker 1: the Packers hold all the cards. He's under contract and
Speaker 1: they have there are no place to trade the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league coming off his MVP Seas and
Speaker 1: so I think he's gonna be there. But once we
Speaker 1: get that news and you can put that story to bed,
Speaker 1: we can start talking about real football again. I'll throw
Speaker 1: one more name out there. Nobody really likes talking about
Speaker 1: it right now, but it's Deshaun Watson, uh, with the
Speaker 1: sexual assault allegations around him. At same time before that broke,
Speaker 1: of course, he wanted out at Houston, and he wanted
Speaker 1: out of Houston in a real bad way. And Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter at ESPN reported, uh, not really reported, but speculated
Speaker 1: that there is no team quote better positioned to trade
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson than the Eagles. We know the Eagles
Speaker 1: seem to be a little we don't know, but it
Speaker 1: feels like the Eagles are a little wishy wishy washy
Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts and we know they got Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: out of town. All that. All the of course, those
Speaker 1: in the back seat and to his legal situation plays out,
Speaker 1: and even beyond the legal side of things, what happens
Speaker 1: in the courts um, whether it's civil or criminal courts,
Speaker 1: what happens with the NFL's decision as well, like does
Speaker 1: he go on the commissioner exemple ist, does he not
Speaker 1: go on the list? And if he doesn't go on
Speaker 1: the list through the Houston Texans have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: trade him. That would be if something changed on this
Speaker 1: front in a substantial way. That to me would be
Speaker 1: a jolt, like whoa. This is a huge story with
Speaker 1: a lot of implications all over the place. What happens
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson? I do you know that Eagles thing
Speaker 1: popped up and it did get you thinking like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he could play for another team this year, right, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you just I think that process is going
Speaker 1: to take a minute, because I think you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to get the legal decision. Then you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to get the NFL decision, unless they're prepared to make
Speaker 1: one quickly. But if for some reason, by mid August,
Speaker 1: the NFL has suspended him for eight games, then I
Speaker 1: would absolutely think that trades are now on the table,
Speaker 1: Like once they get some once a team like the
Speaker 1: Eagles or whoever else would be interested in Denver would
Speaker 1: be the other one I would circle, like, once they
Speaker 1: have some definition of what he's actually gonna miss, It's
Speaker 1: like I would think that trade will happen sooner than later.
Speaker 1: Like I think they're why wait around. If you're Houston,
Speaker 1: they can get a lot, except you know, and especially
Speaker 1: if he is just spending for half the season. Let's
Speaker 1: say it is considerably different than the Packers situation, right
Speaker 1: where you're trading your players somewhere that is going to
Speaker 1: then devalue you know, your assets that you've received in return.
Speaker 1: If the jan's out for eight games, it's okay, let's
Speaker 1: get as much as we can. Let's move on and
Speaker 1: make a clean break as quickly as possible. Especially, you know,
Speaker 1: let's say, if it's the Eagles and you get Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts in return, you know, and you you are actually
Speaker 1: getting a young quarterback that you wouldn't mind getting a
Speaker 1: look see for a year as to whether or not
Speaker 1: you know, this may be your quarterback moving forward, Um
Speaker 1: so I could. I think that's certainly more likely than
Speaker 1: like anything is more likely than Aaron Rodgers getting traded
Speaker 1: at this point. But um, it's funny you brought that
Speaker 1: up then, because I had completely forgotten. And that is
Speaker 1: one thing that Aaron Rodgers managed to do to the
Speaker 1: The mess that Deshaun Watson and the Texans are in
Speaker 1: is completely overshadowed because you know, it's a hundred times
Speaker 1: more popular in terms of the player and the franchise,
Speaker 1: uh and the story, and the media doesn't want to
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to touch it. But especially
Speaker 1: like these big networks and Iville Network, ESPN who have
Speaker 1: partnerships with the NFL and have really struggled to talk
Speaker 1: about this shout and watch because it is a hard
Speaker 1: it is a hard thing to talk about. Give you
Speaker 1: just the tiny example as minuscule in terms of the scope.
Speaker 1: But last week we talked about it. I had the
Speaker 1: Superstar Club piece on NFL dot Com and break it
Speaker 1: down down into categories, and Deshaun Watson is sitting in
Speaker 1: the quarterback club. And then one of our editors who
Speaker 1: it was the right thing to do. I guess it's
Speaker 1: a conversation to have, like do you want to take
Speaker 1: him out of this article until things shake out. I
Speaker 1: don't know, nobody really knows what to do with Shaun
Speaker 1: Watson because of the uncertainty surrounding him in so many ways.
Speaker 1: Um really could be the whole year too. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would surprise me if the NFL. Well, first,
Speaker 1: if the legal thing takes a while and we just
Speaker 1: don't get any clarity, But if the NFL made a
Speaker 1: statement and that he's just gone for the year, and
Speaker 1: you say, okay, let's revisit this, and I mean, like
Speaker 1: we're going through it right now in baseball, right you know,
Speaker 1: with Trevor Bauer. You know, it was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: he's going to make the start on Sunday. Oh no,
Speaker 1: he's he's out for seven days, and he's out for
Speaker 1: another seven days, and now he's out for another seven days.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, as far as the league
Speaker 1: is concerned. They're content to just say, hey, man, you're
Speaker 1: paying the guy. We just don't want his face anywhere.
Speaker 1: We don't we don't want the name, we don't want
Speaker 1: you know, the storyline. So this is our way of
Speaker 1: dealing with it. I think you're right, Greg that that
Speaker 1: to me makes the most sense, that that he's not
Speaker 1: someone we're gonna we're gonna probably hear from anytime. So
Speaker 1: put again, like not to get too deep down this whole.
Speaker 1: And I know that wasn't your intention, Dan, and I
Speaker 1: know people probably don't like hearing about it, but I
Speaker 1: think people fail to recognize, like how little the NFL
Speaker 1: has to do with this. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: legal issue. There are courts involved, there are pending charges involved.
Speaker 1: You know whether or not it's going to be a
Speaker 1: civil case or a criminal case. You know that the
Speaker 1: NFL has nothing to do with that like that. That
Speaker 1: That's what's always I think people fail to recognize is yes,
Speaker 1: they can do their trade request and everything about he
Speaker 1: was already in the news before this all happened. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think that was including me. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like have combined the two when they're when they're
Speaker 1: kind and their judgments for punishment do not lock in
Speaker 1: sync with the legal system. So the NFL at any
Speaker 1: point can't hand down the um some type of penalty. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that will start it happens right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get into the news. This is the game. One second left,
Speaker 1: get in and it will be tied. Locked in the
Speaker 1: shotgun board into the backfield. Fakes the handoff, rolling to
Speaker 1: his right, lock still looking froze caught incomplete, incomplete, He
Speaker 1: was out of bones. And now the referees discussing it.
Speaker 1: Signal on the field is incomplete. Now they say touchdown.
Speaker 1: After a discussion, they say touchdown, And the Broncos are
Speaker 1: an extra point away from winning a game where they
Speaker 1: were dead to rights in the third quarter. Boy, the
Speaker 1: Chargers have found ways to lose games this season, but
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the most painful of them all,
Speaker 1: is uh? Now? Money, I'm not money, of course, is
Speaker 1: the voice of the Los Angeles Chargers with move the
Speaker 1: sticks doing the color. What a tandem? Especially money, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't play that back with the accompanying
Speaker 1: sad music. Um to give you any type of PTSD,
Speaker 1: it's more just to set you up. Money, You've been
Speaker 1: doing that gig for a few years. That's and deserved
Speaker 1: none of the You're right there. It doesn't get any
Speaker 1: lower than Drew Lock ripping your heart out. And here
Speaker 1: is here is the pts. The portion of that broadcast is, uh,
Speaker 1: remember the games we were watching them on an ALL
Speaker 1: twenty two ft in a TV studio, right, so we're
Speaker 1: not in Denver? Is that so? That was? I believe
Speaker 1: that was kind of like the I'm at my wits
Speaker 1: end when I go to my car to drive away.
Speaker 1: I think that was the one where I really started
Speaker 1: losing my mind because I had already have the Saints
Speaker 1: game in which the ALL twenty two was pointed at
Speaker 1: the offensive line of the Chargers and so Badgley kicks
Speaker 1: that field goal with zeros to win the game, and
Speaker 1: everybody in the offensive line raises their hands, is good,
Speaker 1: and so I call it good, only to then have
Speaker 1: the ultiwey to move up onto the uprights and see
Speaker 1: the referees go like this, and I'm like, and it's
Speaker 1: no good. Uh. And then I have the Radar game
Speaker 1: in which you had you had Parham catch the ball,
Speaker 1: signals touchdown and the Chargers win, and then I call
Speaker 1: it a win, and then upon review, no he didn't
Speaker 1: catch it, Zero's Chargers lose. And then that one where
Speaker 1: I have the camera focused on that one official. I
Speaker 1: can't see all three, so I only see the one
Speaker 1: where I call it incomplete no good, only to have
Speaker 1: it overturned. I was gonna ask you if you thought
Speaker 1: that maybe because the Chargers just seemed every year they
Speaker 1: rip out the hearts of their fans. And I was
Speaker 1: hanging out with the Chargers fan last week, um, and
Speaker 1: he had some type of I wish I remember what
Speaker 1: he said, we almost always almost always blow it, something
Speaker 1: like that. Um. But I want to say, do you
Speaker 1: think that this is the year things changed for the
Speaker 1: Charges and they're gonna be a badass team all year?
Speaker 1: And then my other question, yeah, go ahead, Well you
Speaker 1: have to say that, of course I do. Uh. Look,
Speaker 1: I think so much of it. You know, Look, Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert had five fourth quarter leads, you know, he had.
Speaker 1: He had leads against Drew Brees and the Superdome. He
Speaker 1: had leads against Tom Brady in Tampa that the defense
Speaker 1: managed to let get away. Remember they're up twenty four
Speaker 1: to three in that game against the Bucks, and the
Speaker 1: defense and then look, Tom Brady did at the teams
Speaker 1: all season long. I'm not trying to take anything away
Speaker 1: from him, but I'm just saying that the offense was
Speaker 1: able to put together a pretty darn good year. Um,
Speaker 1: it was the defense that, you know, for all of
Speaker 1: the you know, the incoming that the offensive line took
Speaker 1: and understandably so it was one of the worst units
Speaker 1: in the league. Herbert was able to overcome it for
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, and put up huge numbers
Speaker 1: and score a bunch of points. And it was the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball that managed to uh routinely
Speaker 1: and repeatedly uh give games away. So I'd be traveling though, right,
Speaker 1: you'll be traveling because because you're right, that was I
Speaker 1: thought about that a lot during the NBA playoffs, especially
Speaker 1: the first round when they still weren't sending guys like
Speaker 1: it wasn't the broadcaster's fault, but it just was. It
Speaker 1: really was so much worse the broadcasts and I think
Speaker 1: everyone and and there was no way to criticize because
Speaker 1: of course there it's these professionals in an impossible situation
Speaker 1: doing the best possible and and we're happy to just
Speaker 1: watch the live sports. So it's a silly thing also
Speaker 1: to complain about, but of course you were watching it,
Speaker 1: just at least I was always thinking about that. You
Speaker 1: can criticize though, these these companies that you know, pay
Speaker 1: further the teams that pay for the announcing teams, and
Speaker 1: they're seeing, well, we still can you know, wiggle in
Speaker 1: and use this window and use COVID as a reason
Speaker 1: why we're not putting announcing teams on the road, and
Speaker 1: they're saving tens of thousands of dollars and travel and hotel.
Speaker 1: But at the same time they're the products not as good,
Speaker 1: and you're putting people in bad spots. Like John Sterling
Speaker 1: is a hundred years old. He's been covered calling Yankee's
Speaker 1: for thirty years and it keeps happening to him too
Speaker 1: where he's he's watching a screen, a monitor and something happens.
Speaker 1: Then susan Wald and his partners like, this is terrible.
Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here, like they're they're so
Speaker 1: so fill the furious by the way that charges uh
Speaker 1: catchphrase amongst the fans as we almost always almost went yes,
Speaker 1: almost always almost when so I'm hoping this year, you know,
Speaker 1: different coaching staff, different assistant coaches, certainly some up I felt.
Speaker 1: I feel like the team is better than they were
Speaker 1: last year in terms of what they were able to
Speaker 1: do in free agency, especially with health. It should health
Speaker 1: hold through training camp, and UM, yeah, I remain cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 1: I believe by the end of the year. I think
Speaker 1: it was the Raider game the I'm in. I was in.
Speaker 1: I was in game right in overtime, and I do believe.
Speaker 1: I said on the air DJ, forgive me if I
Speaker 1: am not going to call that at touchdown and game over,
Speaker 1: I am going to casually wait here on the broadcast
Speaker 1: booth for the referee to crack his mic and say,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was in the game is over? Uh? That
Speaker 1: That is now what I have been trained to do
Speaker 1: through the court. I think that was game sixteen through
Speaker 1: U sixteen of our seventeen games. That is now where
Speaker 1: I sit. Nothing is a touchdown. Since you're contractually obligated
Speaker 1: to be optimistic on me. Throw it to Greg and
Speaker 1: I know you love Justin Herbert Greig. Um, I'll set
Speaker 1: the over under unwins in a seventeen game season at
Speaker 1: ten and a half. That's high. That's high. Note and
Speaker 1: a half, nine and a half and then I'll go
Speaker 1: over I don't all right, there you go, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Um. The deadline for signing a
Speaker 1: franchise tagged player to a long term deal came and
Speaker 1: went since we last spoke with you, and only one
Speaker 1: guy got a deal. It was Panthers right tackle Taylor Moten,
Speaker 1: a four year, seventy two million dollar extension through Altogether,
Speaker 1: it's five for eighty five. He's one of the highest
Speaker 1: paid right tackles in the league. And perhaps more interesting
Speaker 1: are the guys that didn't get long term deals. Allen
Speaker 1: Robinson with the Bears, UH, their star wide receiver. Another
Speaker 1: star wide receiver Chris Godwin with the Bucks UH. Marcus
Speaker 1: May of the Jets, which surprised me that they're not
Speaker 1: doing business with him, did not get long term deals,
Speaker 1: and it puts their futures with their teams in doubt.
Speaker 1: It's just a reminder how great a deal the franchise
Speaker 1: tag is for play for teams and not for players.
Speaker 1: Because none of almost none of these were close or
Speaker 1: that they were even really negotiating. It was something I
Speaker 1: was surprised the players didn't push a little harder to
Speaker 1: get rid of They got the tag you know, during
Speaker 1: the last CBA, which is now a couple of years ago. Uh,
Speaker 1: they got a few little upgrades, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: like teams are always especially now that there's tons of
Speaker 1: cap space again and the cap is going through the moon,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go up way again next year. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's hard to do this two straight years. If you
Speaker 1: think of who did get signed this year, it was
Speaker 1: dak Um who was on a deal a franchise tag
Speaker 1: last year. Justin Simmons who was on a franchise tag
Speaker 1: last year. There's another one, and almost no one got
Speaker 1: two in a row. Sure was the only one, the
Speaker 1: guard from Washington Um. And so it's tough to do
Speaker 1: it two years in a row. But like teams are
Speaker 1: just not incentivized to give the money. The Panthers, you know,
Speaker 1: did it for Moten, which is great, but I look
Speaker 1: at I've said it a couple of there's offensive line
Speaker 1: looks other than him, like one of the worst in
Speaker 1: the league. So it's good they did lockdown their best
Speaker 1: player by far. I mean, just to echo that, it's
Speaker 1: exactly why owners fight for the franchise tag, right, you know,
Speaker 1: do you really need considering you know, the breadth of
Speaker 1: wide receivers available in middle rounds and free agency on
Speaker 1: cheap deals like we saw with Marvin Jones. I mean,
Speaker 1: guys that are productive getting reasonable offers. You know, why
Speaker 1: would the Bears want to succumb to a eighty five
Speaker 1: or one hundred million dollar fell for a player when
Speaker 1: they can just get away with the player. He's the
Speaker 1: one guy I would think, just do it. But I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't disagree with that, but I also
Speaker 1: think this very well could be the last year for
Speaker 1: that coaching staff, and it could be a tear down
Speaker 1: and it could be a reset. So I wouldn't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would want to invest long
Speaker 1: term money in that particular position when I can do
Speaker 1: it next year, you know what I mean? Like I
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, if this goes really well and Justin
Speaker 1: Fields is who we think he is, not just as
Speaker 1: a player, but as a galvanizing force inside that locker room,
Speaker 1: then I think we we'll just be able to sign
Speaker 1: him next year. You know, give him his eighteen million
Speaker 1: bucks this year. He should be happy with that. And
Speaker 1: unless he becomes a holdout, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: you know, and he's and he's not going to report,
Speaker 1: and he's going to insist upon a trade or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know how all that would work, but like
Speaker 1: to me, that makes sense. Say with Marcus him like
Speaker 1: the Bucks did it with Shack Barrett, and they could
Speaker 1: very well do it with Godwin after you might have
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson is number one, Greg on your free agency
Speaker 1: Top one oh one next year. Yes, may you just
Speaker 1: mat Uh. In other news, disturbing situation for Richard Sherman Uh,
Speaker 1: the veteran free agent who is facing a multiple multitude
Speaker 1: of criminal charges following an arrest outside his in laws home.
Speaker 1: He was released from King County Jail in Washington on
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. He had he had a court appearance UM
Speaker 1: facing five misdemeanor charges connected to an incident in which
Speaker 1: he was drunk and um aggressive trying to get inside
Speaker 1: a house and um it's money. Kind of a sad
Speaker 1: situation because Sherman has been such a great player and
Speaker 1: a great personality UH in the league all these years
Speaker 1: and then you see there's something else going on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, and you just worry about the person, no doubt,
Speaker 1: you know. I think any of us that have ever
Speaker 1: crossed paths with Richard Sherman. Love him, you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's a he's a fun guy to be around. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's done a great job in the media. No doubt
Speaker 1: this will be his second career. He's too good at
Speaker 1: it for it not to be. Um. I think if
Speaker 1: he had any designs upon plane one more year, those
Speaker 1: were certainly dealt a serious blow with this. We hope
Speaker 1: he's okay. Um. You saw the people that have reached
Speaker 1: out to him, you know, in Seattle the forty nine
Speaker 1: John Lynch also, whatever you need, We're here for you. Uh.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, his wife wanted to make
Speaker 1: it clear that no one was harmed, that there wasn't
Speaker 1: any physical issues. It was, you know, just an unfortunate,
Speaker 1: perhaps you know, belligerent in terms of alcohol consumption situation
Speaker 1: that got away from him. Um. And we hope he
Speaker 1: gets the help that that he needs, you know, if
Speaker 1: he needs that help. But you know, it's happy that that.
Speaker 1: It sounded like all parties, you know, really wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure you know that that it was conveyed that
Speaker 1: this was not a physical situation, that it was really just, um,
Speaker 1: you know, an unfortunate series of events that thankfully nobody
Speaker 1: was hurt. I'm sure it was scary for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Um. And he's a big, strong guy, no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. When he's kicking down your door, we're
Speaker 1: gonna freak out a little bit. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: I let the legal situation play out. Hope he's okay
Speaker 1: and everybody around him is okay. And and again I
Speaker 1: think in terms of him playing in one, I would
Speaker 1: say that, you know, I would put the odds on
Speaker 1: that considerably higher of happening now after this. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I had expected him to get a job because he
Speaker 1: was certainly playing well enough, you know, to get a job.
Speaker 1: It maybe probably even a starting job or a significant role.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we didn't take this like one day after
Speaker 1: because well, first of all, there's no there's no takes
Speaker 1: to be had with this, like a story like this,
Speaker 1: and there were some bad ones out there, but there
Speaker 1: was a lot of misinformation to just even from the police, like, um,
Speaker 1: they kept calling it was like his x in laws
Speaker 1: and some of the details, you know what you're alluding
Speaker 1: to that he was trying to get into his in laws.
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, he's he's married. Um, and I
Speaker 1: think it was important to hear his contrition um and
Speaker 1: his desire to get help, and his wife and family's
Speaker 1: desire to help him with that. And that happened a
Speaker 1: few days later when he was when he did do
Speaker 1: the court appearance. So yeah, you're you're right, though we
Speaker 1: might not see him on the field again anytime soon.
Speaker 1: In other cornerback news, this uh on the field news,
Speaker 1: Xavien Howard ten interceptions last season led the NFL, and
Speaker 1: that came a couple of years or two off seasons
Speaker 1: after signing a five year point to five million dollar extension. Well,
Speaker 1: when you signed that deal and then Jalen Ramsey a
Speaker 1: short time later signs a five year, one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollar deal, and then you have ten interceptions and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're not the most high highly paid
Speaker 1: guy in your own secondary. Um, that's gonna lead to
Speaker 1: some issues, and it does. And NFL Networks Mike Silver
Speaker 1: reports that there's quote a lot of trade chatter concerning
Speaker 1: Xavien Howard. Could the Dolphins greg move their star cornerback
Speaker 1: who wants more money even though he just signed that
Speaker 1: deal a couple of years ago. He says that's not
Speaker 1: a fair contract. It sounds like it based on Silver
Speaker 1: putting this out there, that they're not interested in giving
Speaker 1: him the money. That was what I really took from
Speaker 1: this was that other teams were talking about it that
Speaker 1: the Dolphins sounds like a cordony of Silver, you know,
Speaker 1: want a first round pick for him, which which makes sense.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best cornerbacks in the Lake. And
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are the one team that I think are
Speaker 1: like cold blood and not even though like, of course
Speaker 1: they want you know, they would want Davian Howard, and
Speaker 1: they're like a team on the rise, like they've shown
Speaker 1: us they don't care, like they've traded some great young
Speaker 1: pieces before. And so I just get the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes feel from this board even getting out there, that's
Speaker 1: like they're not thrilled with this guy because since they've
Speaker 1: given him this money, he's had two seasons. One of
Speaker 1: those seasons he missed most of the year, and in
Speaker 1: between those two seasons, he was arrested for a domestic assault.
Speaker 1: It's like and that I keep not seeing that mentioned
Speaker 1: in any of the analysis with him. It's like, but
Speaker 1: I have to believe for the Miami Dolphins, who just
Speaker 1: gave him all this money, he has four years left
Speaker 1: on his deal, that that is a factor for them.
Speaker 1: How could it? How could it not be? And he's
Speaker 1: still like the sixth highest paid cornerback in the league
Speaker 1: in terms of average value. It's not like super underpaid either.
Speaker 1: So you really do get the feeling that they're just
Speaker 1: kind of like, whatever, man, you want to hold out, like,
Speaker 1: we'll actually find you for this. This could actually be
Speaker 1: a story I think, unlike almost any other hold out
Speaker 1: that that goes on for a little while. If he's serious, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, um, you know, it's it's hard enough to
Speaker 1: find one. You know, we we keep talking, we keep
Speaker 1: hearing about how you know, is the cornerback the most
Speaker 1: important position in in this current state of the NFL?
Speaker 1: Is it more important than the offensive line? Is it
Speaker 1: more important than the past rusher? You better have a
Speaker 1: lockdown corner And there's a lot of teams that don't
Speaker 1: have one, let alone too. So I do think it's
Speaker 1: a position of power for the Dolphins if they want
Speaker 1: to move forward with Jones, is their anchor on one side.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Xavien like he had a great
Speaker 1: he had a great year. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: I think they're they're selling it his peak. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I think they could probably fetch a first round
Speaker 1: pick for m I know what you said, Gregg in
Speaker 1: terms of the off the field stuff. I don't know
Speaker 1: how big of an issue that is, but I would
Speaker 1: assume a team that considers himself a contender or has
Speaker 1: designs upon being a contender, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of what people always forget when the Rams
Speaker 1: trade all these first round picks. Kind of the way
Speaker 1: Less Sneed and Sean mcba are looking at it is,
Speaker 1: we don't anticipate this being a pick that's inside of
Speaker 1: the top twenty. Like this is we are getting rid
Speaker 1: of selection twenty two through thirty two for this player,
Speaker 1: and moving forward the Detroit Lions, we plan on them
Speaker 1: getting picked somewhere through thirty two, twenty six through thirty two,
Speaker 1: and that's where that so. I think if you're a
Speaker 1: team like the Steelers with Mika Fitzpatrick when they made
Speaker 1: that deal, like the Rams, to me, that lines up.
Speaker 1: Not all first round picks are are equal. You know,
Speaker 1: this is this is not the Jaguars trading for xaviing Howard.
Speaker 1: You know going into twenty that like, that's so to me,
Speaker 1: I think it makes perfect sense that they could find
Speaker 1: a team willing to float them, uh one not you know,
Speaker 1: like the Chief or whomever. A B I know they
Speaker 1: don't have their one because they just traded it for
Speaker 1: Atlando Brown. But you know what I'm saying, like a
Speaker 1: team in that in that vein that feels like they're
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's their one weak spot and the
Speaker 1: rest of their team looks like an intent for a
Speaker 1: division championship. I could totally see that making sense. Uh.
Speaker 1: In other news saying, wait, wait, Greg rolled his eyes?
Speaker 1: Do you disagree? You're on mute? I had to go
Speaker 1: on mute briefly because there was like alarms going off
Speaker 1: in my house. I was, I wasn't rolling my eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I rolled my outside off
Speaker 1: and I don't even know. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was bored, if he was bored with the commentary, uh,
Speaker 1: if he was just agreeing with the with the take
Speaker 1: or what you know. I just always we all look,
Speaker 1: we all see Greg's approval. It's why we never call
Speaker 1: him out on any of his bad takes, right because
Speaker 1: we never want that. Um, you're all right, Greg, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, there was. You know, my kids just
Speaker 1: walk where My son has a habit of just going
Speaker 1: into our iPads and different um timers and just setting
Speaker 1: them off to go off throughout the day. He's not
Speaker 1: even here now, just for just for chaos, just to
Speaker 1: bother me. And I just wanna, I just want to
Speaker 1: mention money, my instincts, just to move on. We're spot on,
Speaker 1: even without seeing the rest in greg face there. Um
Speaker 1: so the last like minute and forty seven seconds of
Speaker 1: the show this yeah you know I got you. Sorry
Speaker 1: it was it's more about this. I'm almost in favor
Speaker 1: of the almost always in favor of, like players go
Speaker 1: get your money, but this is the one time I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm not on the player's side for this,
Speaker 1: this one and is annoying to me. One player who
Speaker 1: will not be getting all of his money this season
Speaker 1: is David an your Mata, the Saints defensive line, one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive players on the Saints roster that
Speaker 1: will be suspended for the first six games of season
Speaker 1: after testing positive for a band substance. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: a twenty year old player who really did a lot
Speaker 1: of damage on the interior for the New Orleans defensive line.
Speaker 1: Seven sacks, nearly thirty QB hurries graded out very highly
Speaker 1: over at PFF and creates more uncertainty around the Saints
Speaker 1: greg a year a Saints team that obviously has questions
Speaker 1: at quarterback. And then you also don't forget about Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lott Lattimore, who was arrested in March uh in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: so we don't really know his status exactly. A lot
Speaker 1: up in the air. The Saints really high variants for
Speaker 1: me where they can land this year. Yeah, especially because
Speaker 1: of the defense. They've had a good defense lately and
Speaker 1: they've gotten used to that. But on paper, I remember,
Speaker 1: this is why I like doing the projected starters writing
Speaker 1: other than on your mata. This is like the thinnest
Speaker 1: defensive tackle group in the league. And now when your
Speaker 1: matas gone for the first six games. So you're Saints fan,
Speaker 1: you've gotten used to a good defense. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Their defensive tackle group looks poor there. Off ball linebackers
Speaker 1: look pretty bad. The warnerback situation is very thin. Suddenly,
Speaker 1: like they've had some bad defenses under Dennis Allen remember
Speaker 1: those days the same court, Like they've had some of
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league, and I don't know
Speaker 1: they've gotten used to this like top ten sort of defense.
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be used to that anymore.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need Jamis. That's why you need Jamis out
Speaker 1: there throwing for fifty touchdowns. You get this Taysom Hill score.
Speaker 1: Try to win a score low scoring game. That's not
Speaker 1: happening with this defense. I mean, you could need something,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna get it, but at least you
Speaker 1: go for the high variants, high upside guys, because this
Speaker 1: defense isn't keeping. You're not gonna be winning these Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill games like they had in Denver when they were
Speaker 1: going against their you know, third string wide receiver for
Speaker 1: the Broncos at quarterback. I can't remember that his name anymore,
Speaker 1: do you guys remember? I mean, he was like that
Speaker 1: was hard. That was really hard, and I'd prefer to
Speaker 1: just we should forget his name because that was not
Speaker 1: fair to that young There you go, Darius hinting, Is
Speaker 1: that right? No? Darius Swinton's the special team's coach for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I had very little to add. As you
Speaker 1: can see in my hand what I hold right it
Speaker 1: is a bottom half of a blender cup. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: much like on your Mada's defense, which is, I must
Speaker 1: have taken something that I was not aware of what
Speaker 1: it is. In Inside that smoothie cup was two scoops
Speaker 1: of or Gain peanut butter protein powder, and I, too,
Speaker 1: like professional football players, do not check the contents of
Speaker 1: my protein powder. I simply look for a flavor that
Speaker 1: I like and it's not chalky. And I dropped those
Speaker 1: scoops in not knowing whether or not perhaps there is
Speaker 1: something in there that would lead to my getting a six.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing though they don't pretty good, I'm on their talent.
Speaker 1: Though they don't test. That's a good thing they don't,
Speaker 1: because look, I'm small. I am changed like that. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm one of those husbands that my wife just sticks
Speaker 1: something in front of me and I drink it and
Speaker 1: need it. If my wife wanted to just knock knock
Speaker 1: me out, it'd be that it'd be that easy. If
Speaker 1: she wanted to dateline me out of the picture to
Speaker 1: collect some life insurance. If it's a phantom thread, you, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of my friends. I probably should not add this,
Speaker 1: but I will. Much like that, Dan my, uh my,
Speaker 1: My formative years were it did not matter what party,
Speaker 1: what club, what time, who the person was. If anybody
Speaker 1: puts something in my hand or in I took it.
Speaker 1: It was. It led to some very very bad, horrible decisions.
Speaker 1: Uh and and many things that I don't remember. But
Speaker 1: I was the king of Hey, dude, you gotta try this,
Speaker 1: all right, and then they just let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: Any kids listening at home, don't do it, money, don't listen.
Speaker 1: I will. I will say one of those nights ended
Speaker 1: behind bars, uh for something that eventually was dismissed. But yes,
Speaker 1: don't do that. Mike Florio is working on the article
Speaker 1: right now as he digs through. Well, the funny thing
Speaker 1: is that all the nights, right, I will. I will
Speaker 1: share with you if you care. Uh. It actually was.
Speaker 1: It was the one time that it was mistaken identity.
Speaker 1: Like I was. I was in the middle of the
Speaker 1: street at like two in the morning and this cop
Speaker 1: rolled up and on the south side of your ugle
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you get in, and they threw
Speaker 1: me in the back of the car with my friend Sean.
Speaker 1: We're like, what the hell is going on? And they're
Speaker 1: like yeah you we we got you. Woman's coming up
Speaker 1: to the car and this woman sticks her head in
Speaker 1: the car. She's like, yeah, it's them terrifying and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: they said, apparently we had busted into a building site
Speaker 1: and uh we're joy riding a bulldozer around the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: of which we weren't. Then that's you know, I was
Speaker 1: all piste off And when my friend Shawn's dad comes
Speaker 1: to pick us up, we're, you know, kitching and moaning
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, how many times have you guys
Speaker 1: done dumbass s and not gotten arrested? Like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: probably probably every day. He's like, all right, fine, so
Speaker 1: let's call it even shut up, quit your line. And
Speaker 1: it's like, alright, sorry, Mr Real, We're good. Um in
Speaker 1: retirement news, it's get sid stepping a couple of heads,
Speaker 1: still going look out at least going block one block
Speaker 1: and he's gone, yeah this time, Oh Ted Gain, you monster,
Speaker 1: you monster, My nightmares. That was a two thousand nine
Speaker 1: game at the Meadow Ends where again ran back two
Speaker 1: kickoffs for touchdowns. That was the first Rex Ryan year
Speaker 1: where nobody could score in the Jets defense, but Ted
Speaker 1: Gain accounted for twelve points on his own with two
Speaker 1: uh triple digit kickoff returns. And he did that for
Speaker 1: a long time in this league. He just retired. He
Speaker 1: announced his retirement. He was always a special team's ace money.
Speaker 1: There was always offensive coordinators and head coaches who thought
Speaker 1: they could turn him into a bigger part of an offense. Uh.
Speaker 1: And sometimes he did find a nice little niche. But
Speaker 1: that's how I remember Ted Gain as a guy who
Speaker 1: did not want to kick it too on special teams. Well,
Speaker 1: I wish I remembered in the same way, because unfortunately
Speaker 1: I'll always remember him and it's not it's not fair
Speaker 1: to him right as Uh. We didn't grant draft Ted Gain. Okay,
Speaker 1: we drafted the Gain family to the Miami Dolphins when
Speaker 1: he was considered a giant reach at number nine and
Speaker 1: I had to pull up the O seven draft. Remember
Speaker 1: it was probably the most scrutinized and assaulted pick of
Speaker 1: the OH seven draft. Uh. Right behind him, Patrick Willis,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, Darrelle revis Um all got selected. Kind of
Speaker 1: But who who are the fans? Who are the Dolphins
Speaker 1: fans chanting for? And who did everyone say that they
Speaker 1: blew um? You know? Their their draft because they just
Speaker 1: took in over it was Brady Quinn. They were literally okay, Brady.
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn's career ended, you know, seven or eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Better career, much better career. People think of him as
Speaker 1: like you would be a bus I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: was a great pick, but I would. I would guess
Speaker 1: if you go through top ten picks, like let's say
Speaker 1: six through ten, he's better than average. He's better than
Speaker 1: your average top ten pick to be that type of specialty.
Speaker 1: So no doubt. And I'm not trying to remember, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I remember he had like eight hundred He
Speaker 1: topped seven eight hundred yards many times in his career,
Speaker 1: including for the Dolphins a couple of times. So as
Speaker 1: a deep threat like stretching the field, plus the special team.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of big playoff games for the
Speaker 1: Saints when they got when they got taken out a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. The guy who did that speech, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike Sherman had a lot of bad uh. I think
Speaker 1: that's what that's who it was right over the years.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, yeah, yeah, And it was just
Speaker 1: it was oh no, no, no, it was Cam Cameron
Speaker 1: that it was. It was Cam Cameron who got his
Speaker 1: shot after being interim to be the head coach, I think.
Speaker 1: And that's just the fact checkie there, Greg. He never
Speaker 1: even began eight hundred yards, but he had seven hundred
Speaker 1: yards like five different times. As big as year um
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver was in uh then thirty years
Speaker 1: old with the Panthers. Um that was the big Cam year.
Speaker 1: He was went forty four for seven thirty nine and
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns. So yeah, a couple of very similar ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah with the Saints and a couple of big playoff
Speaker 1: games like I mentioned in that year where they lost
Speaker 1: to Minnesota in the playoffs. It's like Ted Get added
Speaker 1: something I would have never guessed. Ted Get had a
Speaker 1: double digit touchdown season though as a receiver. That's I
Speaker 1: would have never guessed. Interesting, But that was a special
Speaker 1: year for the Panthers with Cam Newton two thousand UM.
Speaker 1: All right. In other news, Brady Quinn, Brady Quinn, they
Speaker 1: were outside in one of these things where they invent
Speaker 1: where they invite the fans and and stuff. And now
Speaker 1: it's funny, this is terrible. This is also terrible to say,
Speaker 1: but I'll I always appreciate the quarterback that sits in
Speaker 1: the green room too long. And remember Brady, and I
Speaker 1: love Brady anybody that's ever been around him, He's such
Speaker 1: a great guy to be around in the media. He's
Speaker 1: self deprecating, he does not care. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to have him in the media with us. Now. Um,
Speaker 1: but I remember he was jelled to the nines. His
Speaker 1: hair was so ju and uh and you know he's
Speaker 1: all small. He'said Like people that have ever been around Brady,
Speaker 1: they don't realize how that guy is. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is freaking giant. He is a legit six six and swoll.
Speaker 1: But he had a girlfriend with him. Um, And the
Speaker 1: second she came on camera the first time, he said,
Speaker 1: she looks like a dipping bird, like you know those
Speaker 1: little birds where you put the water in the bottom
Speaker 1: bulb and it just goes. And so every time they
Speaker 1: got to her for some reason, I was just sitting
Speaker 1: in my living room watching the draft, going now, I
Speaker 1: have to go check out the video of this. I remember,
Speaker 1: my apologies. We were at the two thousand thirteen draft
Speaker 1: at Radio City. That's when Gino Smith sat in the
Speaker 1: green room for the entire first round and then I
Speaker 1: think the Jets are on the board for the first
Speaker 1: or second pick of the second round. They took Gino.
Speaker 1: Gino stayed uh in New York and went back to
Speaker 1: Radio City. But he changed out of his suit and
Speaker 1: put on yellow sweater pull over sweater. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: think that was in defiance of the AFT industrial complex.
Speaker 1: That or the failure of the teams to respect him,
Speaker 1: and that he did not have a great attitude when
Speaker 1: he went on the stage either, like he was pretty annoyed,
Speaker 1: um like he had to be talked into going back.
Speaker 1: It seemed like, uh, not a great look in retrospect. Greg.
Speaker 1: I know you will defend Geno Smith to the end,
Speaker 1: but I bet you put another suit back on. Let's
Speaker 1: be serious. You're in New York, but buy another suit.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me one suit ready. I've got an exercise,
Speaker 1: I know I have already. Brand told him he was
Speaker 1: going top ten. It's not his fault. You know what
Speaker 1: does Gil Brand? No? I want you to go to
Speaker 1: YouTube right now. Even though this is an audio format
Speaker 1: and everybody listening along, maybe we can play follow along. Hey,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, I want you to
Speaker 1: go to YouTube right now. I want you to type
Speaker 1: in Brady Falling, Cowboys, big Trades and more. That is
Speaker 1: the name of the video. It's got three D fifty
Speaker 1: six thousand views. And I am now at the eleven
Speaker 1: minute thirty two second mark, and I have got Brady
Speaker 1: Quinn on my screen. And his hair is so much
Speaker 1: more glorious and jelled and mulleted than you could. I mean,
Speaker 1: he looks like he's freaking c seated the stage boison Um.
Speaker 1: He's in a pinstriped suit. He's got this MICHAELA. Moroney
Speaker 1: style look of disgust and powered on his face. His
Speaker 1: handsome girlfriend is right next to him. It is fantastic.
Speaker 1: It really is. Uh it is. It's a it's a trigger.
Speaker 1: And there's there's the girlfriend. There's a do you agree
Speaker 1: dipping bird er? Now, I don't know if I can't
Speaker 1: agree with that sentiment in two thousand twenty one, she
Speaker 1: looks like a fine person. Money. I'm not saying she's
Speaker 1: not a fine person. I'm just look, there are certain
Speaker 1: things that some people say I look like a thumb.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm okay if I look like a thumb.
Speaker 1: I got a small head. No, I think you get
Speaker 1: into trouble when you have the long hair like that,
Speaker 1: if you put too much product in it, just it
Speaker 1: looks like an oil spill. And that's what happened to
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn in the biggest of all spots. By the way,
Speaker 1: I made him Kla Moroney reference. And for those that
Speaker 1: don't know, Brady Quinn married to an Olympic gymnast. Yeah, sacrimony.
Speaker 1: I believe he's married to Alicia sacrimony. Let's keep an
Speaker 1: eye on their offspring in the professional realm going forward.
Speaker 1: As speaking of Brady's, this is a different Brady. It's
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And the Tampa Bay Times reports that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady played through a partially torn mc L for the
Speaker 1: entirety of season, and now NFL Network's Ian Rabbit Board
Speaker 1: came in. He said it was a full tear. I mean,
Speaker 1: the man is a hero. But I just want to
Speaker 1: say this, Greg you you tend to get on certain people,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for trying to drive the media or drop
Speaker 1: things nuggets that will make him look good or accomplished
Speaker 1: certain things. And you know, I'm back on the Tom
Speaker 1: Brady trained. I'm finally on the Tom Brady train. After
Speaker 1: years of relenting and pain. But I have to say
Speaker 1: some of the Brady stories that come out, it almost
Speaker 1: feels like he has an entire PR team and they
Speaker 1: have a calendar, and after let's say two weeks, it's like,
Speaker 1: let's drop a little nugget out there, and all these
Speaker 1: little insiders will be chomping at it, and they make
Speaker 1: sure to get it out there. And if you're gonna
Speaker 1: attack Russell Wilson for trying to manipulate the media for
Speaker 1: his own game, Tom Brady is doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: But Rust would have had it out during the season,
Speaker 1: right after the season, all throughout this. The timeline of
Speaker 1: this indicates to me it just sort of happened naturally,
Speaker 1: you know, somehow this u you know, you know, and
Speaker 1: Ian only jumped in and really was almost rude. He
Speaker 1: gave him a quote tweet. Actually I had to like,
Speaker 1: Rick Scout's got this big breaking news. Uh, this guy's
Speaker 1: got a partially tour an mcl and Ian immediately goes
Speaker 1: for the quote retweet. Actually it was fully torn and
Speaker 1: I was like, did Stroud come at you for this?
Speaker 1: Because and I I wanted to know it's Stroud. I
Speaker 1: think total professional. Um, he wasn't upset with Ian. But
Speaker 1: that and but that tells me Ian was sitting on
Speaker 1: this news he knew knew it all along, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't ever going to report it. But then that's that's true.
Speaker 1: That's a bad job I because that is something that
Speaker 1: you know, but they have all the time. You know
Speaker 1: how it works, they're told they can't do it. He
Speaker 1: had it the whole time, and then once it was
Speaker 1: out there, he's going to clarify the situation. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's why, Maybe that's why Ian didn't tweet it out,
Speaker 1: because he is a power broker in the game of
Speaker 1: NFL information right and Brady's people, we're telling him, hey,
Speaker 1: I want you to hold this. Maybe maybe we start
Speaker 1: the season zero and two. Maybe Tom throws three picks
Speaker 1: in the first couple, then we're gonna strategically drop. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, you know that guy won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl on a fully torn a m c l ian.
Speaker 1: You'r a go yeah, hey, ghost writer, you're a full
Speaker 1: go let that thing fly. You know, because so many
Speaker 1: that he had it in his back pocket, they were
Speaker 1: gonna give the go gos, go team go signal to
Speaker 1: the insiders. In this case Ian, like when Brady threw
Speaker 1: three in or seven and this sticks and a lot
Speaker 1: of people's crossed. Not me so much because I'm on
Speaker 1: team Brady now, Greg, as you know, but he threw
Speaker 1: three interceptions in the NFC Championship game. If the Packers
Speaker 1: were able to take advantage of that, uh and win
Speaker 1: that game, that m c l tear story comes out
Speaker 1: Monday after coming that then or what this? How about
Speaker 1: this hypothetical? How about this hypothetical? Let me let me
Speaker 1: get in here real quick, Greg, and then you can
Speaker 1: take it. Games are about to show up for training camps,
Speaker 1: right what was that protein shake? Money? A lot of cocaine?
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited. Uh, we're gonna know immediately who's
Speaker 1: vaccinated who's not based on guys just wearing masks or
Speaker 1: not wearing masks, wearing wristbands. What if Brady's one of
Speaker 1: the unvaccinated and that becomes a huge story and instead
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, fire that m cl story off. Let's
Speaker 1: let's get this on vaccinated. And I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: is here, he isn't. I'm just saying, maybe that's the
Speaker 1: next mountain that some of these players are going to
Speaker 1: have to climb once the media sees he is that
Speaker 1: guy wearing a mask or is he not wearing a mask?
Speaker 1: What's going on over here? It did get Brady. Brady
Speaker 1: has been in the news. The floodgates in terms of
Speaker 1: leaking to the media and keeping Brady in the news.
Speaker 1: Is are definitely open post Patriots. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: a different it is a different vibe. But what annoys
Speaker 1: me most about Brady right now are the tweets from
Speaker 1: people who should know better. They're just like, it's scary
Speaker 1: how good Tom Brady is at this social media game.
Speaker 1: And I like, Brady is the least funny person ever.
Speaker 1: We've had decades of experience seeing him not you know,
Speaker 1: be like a humorous guy. That's not his strength. And
Speaker 1: suddenly everyone's like, Wow, Brady's got these great zingers and
Speaker 1: you know, gifts on Twitter. It's like, you think Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is really, uh, pounding the Twitter pavement, Give me
Speaker 1: a break? How did I do think? However, because he
Speaker 1: isn't funny at all. I do think he has his
Speaker 1: own I do think he runs his own Twitter Greg
Speaker 1: and I think when he like when he got that
Speaker 1: thing to work against Bryson, he hit it so hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just like the same joke over
Speaker 1: and over and over and over. It's like, we get it.
Speaker 1: People laughed, it was funny. You took a shot at
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It was great enough. He hired the best
Speaker 1: social media team money can buy because he's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you you know, um and other news that
Speaker 1: you know this story concerns me because you know that
Speaker 1: I have a lot invested, both financially and emotionally in
Speaker 1: the Kicker club and young like Coup had an incredible
Speaker 1: season for the Atlanta Falcons last season. Uh, his first
Speaker 1: team All Pro? Did you guys know that first team?
Speaker 1: Sure did? He got his jeep stolen. I guess what's
Speaker 1: in the geep bros? His lucky cleats. Here's what Coup
Speaker 1: wrote on Instagram in a post that' john empty parking
Speaker 1: lot where it's truck used to be. That sucks. I
Speaker 1: love that MFS stole my jeep. S mh m S
Speaker 1: means you know, smh shaking my head. Can you just
Speaker 1: bring my cleats back? Though? I won't even be mad, bro,
Speaker 1: just bring all my cleats back so I can go kick.
Speaker 1: How about a reboot money? I know you know the
Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time. Uh and
Speaker 1: one that as a child I watched endlessly Pewee's Big
Speaker 1: Adventure when Peewee goes on the hunt for his stolen
Speaker 1: bike ends up in the Alamo. There's no biseman in
Speaker 1: the Alamo, Janet Hooks said famously, basement, how about Ku
Speaker 1: looking for his cleats a monitored updating starring an NFL star.
Speaker 1: Just behind that. I can get behind that. He's a
Speaker 1: dynamic personality, you know, um, I will say you're casting
Speaker 1: coup in this though, right, Yeah, he's playing himself looking
Speaker 1: for his Do we know where it was? Was he?
Speaker 1: Was he in the greater Atlanta area? Was he in
Speaker 1: his hometown? Where? Where is? Where is young? Who? What
Speaker 1: does the backdrop for this? Vehicles? Genores Jenkins left his
Speaker 1: like three thousand dollar car at the airport for three
Speaker 1: weeks and then I was surprised it wasn't It's very smart.
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever have a car stolen or a
Speaker 1: significant breaking. I had the doors of my jeep stolen
Speaker 1: by a crackhead? The doors the doors? Yeah, why do
Speaker 1: you think it was a crackhead because that sounds like
Speaker 1: a professional job to get the doors off. No on
Speaker 1: a jeep, they just slide right off because you can
Speaker 1: drive around without doors on a jeep Wrangler. So um.
Speaker 1: And I know he was a crackhead because when I
Speaker 1: showed up at the courthouse wanting to fight the guy
Speaker 1: the day they arraigned him, they were like, hey, take
Speaker 1: it easy, man, the guy's really in bad shape. He's
Speaker 1: a drug addict. He was living on the street. He
Speaker 1: stole your doors so we could buy more crack. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, whatever, I guess I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: have compassion for this guy. And I had to drive
Speaker 1: around in a car with no freaking doors on it
Speaker 1: for two weeks. Yeahell you, Greg. I had a like
Speaker 1: car stereo stolen in New Orleans when that was a thing,
Speaker 1: you know, when the car stereos are a cool thing
Speaker 1: you could detach and have stolen. That's about it, though,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still looking for the source of whatever
Speaker 1: where that you was stolen? But what about you, Dan,
Speaker 1: what's been sting you. I've been lucky. I've been lucky
Speaker 1: in terms of the on the car end of things. Um.
Speaker 1: But I have a close buddy who I actually just
Speaker 1: spent a weekend with it was good to see him.
Speaker 1: And we went back to his cars, like and the
Speaker 1: UM side window was broken and two things were taken
Speaker 1: his UM bathing suit, the swimsuit was gone and his
Speaker 1: and this one hurt especially in and this will connect
Speaker 1: with you. Money is somebody that um loves music and
Speaker 1: worked in the industry. Your giant book of CDs that
Speaker 1: you would take with you and you would have your
Speaker 1: entire UM music collection, you know, two hundred four hundred
Speaker 1: CDs were thousands of dollars and that got swiped out
Speaker 1: of there as well, and that that was a crushing
Speaker 1: moment for my buddy. Yeah. I like the idea of
Speaker 1: Greg rolling into a party in high school with his
Speaker 1: pull out Alpine in his hand, going what's up? Hanging
Speaker 1: out all night with his car stereo walking around because
Speaker 1: he had to pull out It's like, well, traveling everywhere
Speaker 1: with this car stereo. Um all right. Finally in the news,
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson does not have a job. He's staying in shape,
Speaker 1: he tells Sports Talk seven ninety hopes to sign with
Speaker 1: a team before the season starts. He wants to get
Speaker 1: a ring. Uh. Since he's come into the league in
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, he's piled up an outrageous uh number
Speaker 1: of stats in the rushing game. He's I think he's closed.
Speaker 1: He's in the top five all time and rushing of
Speaker 1: course at that two thousand yard season coming back from
Speaker 1: the blown out knee. But now he just wants to
Speaker 1: hang around as a backup and get that chip m.
Speaker 1: I think I think we'll see him again. He was
Speaker 1: playing at a high enough level that someone should sign
Speaker 1: him at some point, whether it's in camp after an
Speaker 1: injury or during the season after an injury. A p
Speaker 1: the Bill parcels is him. He's a progress stopper. At
Speaker 1: this point, it was career. Don't you want a younger
Speaker 1: running back that's more dynamic. Get a look at him
Speaker 1: rather than Peterson slamming into the line for three yards
Speaker 1: every time we give it. He ran better than that
Speaker 1: last year, though, I'm just basing it on what the
Speaker 1: tape shows, you know, I'm just telling you what the
Speaker 1: tape shows. He was legitimately an average to above average
Speaker 1: likely I think so, like just in terms of his
Speaker 1: burse and like getting you're right, he's not gonna be
Speaker 1: breaking and he's got limitations, so that puts them below average,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna help you on passing that
Speaker 1: he's got limitations, but yes, some guys out there, he's
Speaker 1: better than some guys out there. First there, I would
Speaker 1: just add quickly, there's you know, it's it's the position
Speaker 1: with the most attrition. So he's gonna get brought in
Speaker 1: for tryouts and if he beats out the guys that
Speaker 1: they bring in that are still sitting out there, then
Speaker 1: he'll get a job. And to your point, Greggy average
Speaker 1: nearly four yards to carry seven touchdowns surprisingly with Detroit
Speaker 1: last season in limited work ten starts. Uh, he's beat
Speaker 1: up and and there are um several well known veterans
Speaker 1: still out there. Greg, did you take a look at
Speaker 1: the list? I did, Then you know there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz, he's coming off an injury like that's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a quality player if he decides to play again,
Speaker 1: is healthy enough justin Houston played a lot last year.
Speaker 1: Pretty well, he's not on a team. kJ Wright, Uh
Speaker 1: never went back to Seattle. Kind of thought that would happen.
Speaker 1: Kwan Short might be done, but um, he's only a
Speaker 1: couple of years removed from being like a first team
Speaker 1: opro and isn't that old, So there's there's still some
Speaker 1: names out there. Sherman was another guy fairly high on
Speaker 1: that list before all this happened. But we went over him.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, was there any in your top
Speaker 1: one oh one of this year? I assumed Sherman was
Speaker 1: on that list? Anyone else that that was? That was?
Speaker 1: I was just reading off of that. Houston was pretty
Speaker 1: high up there. And what other obstacles for Peterson? As
Speaker 1: we come back around um to close it out, He's
Speaker 1: got a lot of He's got a lot of company
Speaker 1: in terms of the veteran thirty plus or around thirty
Speaker 1: running backs looking for jobs. This is I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is an outdated list, but I know for
Speaker 1: a fact several of these guys, if not all of them,
Speaker 1: are still unemployed. Lev Bell, Todd Gurley. Uh did Duke
Speaker 1: Johnson get a job? No? Okay, Peterson, Chris Thompson, Dion Lewis,
Speaker 1: Tavonta Freeman, Lashawn McCoy, alf Morris uh all without jobs
Speaker 1: or you guys do the double checking, I can get
Speaker 1: get Duke Johnson a job. I guess he's just never
Speaker 1: He's just always going to be underrated. I don't understand it. Um,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Before we go. We'd
Speaker 1: like to do this. We like to check in every
Speaker 1: once in a while, especially this this year, Um we are,
Speaker 1: or this summer, we're he's spending some time away. Took
Speaker 1: it a little extra time off, so you have some
Speaker 1: extra time. Maybe you're laying at the beach. Maybe you're uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you're surfing constantly. That's Matt money Smith. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a vacation now, that's just you know, that's just life.
Speaker 1: The ocean is money. You know. You call yours twenty
Speaker 1: four hour fitness. I call mine the Pacific. You know,
Speaker 1: when are you gonna start sending out those like Instagram
Speaker 1: posts like my office for the day and it's sun
Speaker 1: coming over the Yeah, you know what, I did have
Speaker 1: that moment this morning, Greg, I just didn't post that
Speaker 1: on Instagram. It was a glorious sunrise as I got
Speaker 1: out early before the sun came up, and it was
Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful, and I did take a moment. I even
Speaker 1: said to Kennon Joe, who were surfing with me, It's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: that's pretty epic sunrise right there. Bro, that's like The
Speaker 1: only thing I like in my mind is someone's never served.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing surfers talk about is just the
Speaker 1: sunrise in the sunset. So epic. Everything's epic. Definitely, what's
Speaker 1: the pop culture you're ingesting right now? Something that's really
Speaker 1: you're into right now? This is tough, you know, because
Speaker 1: we have a similar thing, the recommendation station on my
Speaker 1: other podcast, the jess Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Pride. Oh
Speaker 1: you know what before we go that brings me to this?
Speaker 1: Did uh? Did Courts of Thunder ever have a final
Speaker 1: podcast kind of recapping the actual championship match between the
Speaker 1: joke Wimbledon. Yeah, it's up. We put it up hours after,
Speaker 1: so it's on YouTube. It's it's our most popular one yet.
Speaker 1: You know, the people are some people, by the way,
Speaker 1: on the internet, Greg, that you keep on saying Wimbledon
Speaker 1: not done. Yes, it's Wimbledon with a D, Wimbledon, not Wimbleton,
Speaker 1: you American, you filthy american pig Wimbledon. Do you have
Speaker 1: a Wimbledon po People also say, I don't say cam Newton, right,
Speaker 1: I don't say the tea. So I just there's something
Speaker 1: about the T and the d s and they I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's my bad. I mean, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 1: He cut me off here. Um not, but I can't
Speaker 1: believe he's been saying Wimbledon all this time. I got
Speaker 1: a few. Um, I'll go. I'll go with just what
Speaker 1: I watched last night though, just because I'm in now.
Speaker 1: Um on the new Mike White show, The White Lotus
Speaker 1: on HBO. It's silly. It's sort of about this. You know,
Speaker 1: a bunch of rich people staying at um a resort
Speaker 1: in Hawaii for a week. It's six episodes. They're three
Speaker 1: into it on HBO. Uh. You know what you know?
Speaker 1: Coach Coach Taylor's wife is written. It's a it's fun.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like Mike White. He did Enlightened
Speaker 1: if you ever watched that back in the day. I'm in.
Speaker 1: I'm in on this show because Mike. I mean because Matt.
Speaker 1: Matt already shamed me from not being the guy who
Speaker 1: recommends books, so I gotta come up with the TV
Speaker 1: did that before we started? Uh? Before we started? Dan asked, Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have something ready for popcorn, A
Speaker 1: readable book. I'm gonna go book to A children's Bible
Speaker 1: by Lydia Millette is like amazing. It sounds like something
Speaker 1: that I'm not that into children or Bible, um, but
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to give too much away,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like kids, kids on vacation, um,
Speaker 1: a little bit of Lord of the Flies thing, a
Speaker 1: little bit of dystopia, very much of the moment of
Speaker 1: like our coming climate emergency, but in a small way.
Speaker 1: And they really kept it really gets how like teenagers
Speaker 1: have absolutely no use for the previous generation. In a
Speaker 1: very funny the climate emergency isn't coming. It's here, bud, right,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what it's about. So a storm comes
Speaker 1: and and that's a little wild. I would really hard
Speaker 1: recommend that. It's one of my favorite book they've write
Speaker 1: in a long time. What's it called again? A children's
Speaker 1: Bible by Lydia. It's like a quick read but very
Speaker 1: smart too. How about that? Now I gotta follow that up.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta follow a book, my god, Like I
Speaker 1: don't ready about head surper. Guy here doesn't read? Thanks
Speaker 1: a lot, Greg, I mean when did when did? Like
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't want to be that guy. Like
Speaker 1: reading has been the most popular leisure activity. It's supposed
Speaker 1: to be fun, and I just do it for fun.
Speaker 1: It is fun, and I agree, there's nothing like high
Speaker 1: culture about it. It's been like the lowest and most
Speaker 1: popular culture in the history of our civilization. So I
Speaker 1: still view it as pop culture. It's not. Why are
Speaker 1: you being defensive about books because because of what he said?
Speaker 1: Because well, no I had said the way my camera
Speaker 1: was positioned. Greg and I were joking before the broadcast began.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, hold on, let me make sure I
Speaker 1: got the right books in sight for people that it's
Speaker 1: not trashy novel you really think high of yourself, I
Speaker 1: will give you a television program that is easy to consume.
Speaker 1: I actually watched the last night. It just debuted last night,
Speaker 1: and it's going to play into my my dumbass surfer persona,
Speaker 1: but just debuting on and I will I will recommend
Speaker 1: this by pointing out when wife said you want to
Speaker 1: watch something tonight together, I was like yeah, And we
Speaker 1: start thumbing through and I click on the one hundred
Speaker 1: Foot Wave on HBO Max and she's like, are you
Speaker 1: really going to make me watch a surf doc? And
Speaker 1: right now you're watching this thing? This this isn't really
Speaker 1: a surf doc. I cannot recommend that enough. Garrett McNamara
Speaker 1: is one of those big wave riders, arguably one of
Speaker 1: the best in the world, like puts his life on
Speaker 1: the line every single time he gets into one of
Speaker 1: these waves. And it's basically about the discovery of Nazare
Speaker 1: in Portugal, which I don't know. I'm sure you've probably
Speaker 1: seen it. Remember the news story of the woman that
Speaker 1: rode the biggest wave of and it was just this giant,
Speaker 1: hulking wave. And it's about how he found the wave,
Speaker 1: how the city had to get behind him in order
Speaker 1: to figure out whether or not this wave was going
Speaker 1: to kill you or not, and everything that went into it.
Speaker 1: And it is, it's fascinating. It's eye candy. Um, it's compelling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really It's on HBO Max. It's really really this
Speaker 1: was just episode one. I don't know how any episodes
Speaker 1: there are, but it's like ninety minutes. Cannot recommend it enough,
Speaker 1: which sounds like a good program to uh, get a
Speaker 1: little loose and then turn off the lights and watch it.
Speaker 1: Um anything else in my how about you? Well? I
Speaker 1: got a couple of ones, all right. First of all,
Speaker 1: Once upon a time in Hollywood. Uh. This is Quentin
Speaker 1: Tarantino's novel based on the movie. And if you love
Speaker 1: that movie, and I know Sessler loves it, and I
Speaker 1: adore that film, watched it many times now since it
Speaker 1: came out, I think last summer. It kind of digs
Speaker 1: a little deeper into some of the storylines from that movie.
Speaker 1: And uh, Tarantino wrote it. Uh, so you have some
Speaker 1: fun with it. And now even like the format, it's
Speaker 1: like a drug store. Put it in your back pocket,
Speaker 1: UM type book in an easy read. You can knock
Speaker 1: it out immediately. Um. And you should do that and
Speaker 1: check out the movie if you haven't. Speaking of a
Speaker 1: watching things, doctor Death, Now this is not even a
Speaker 1: show I can necessarily say that is good. But it's
Speaker 1: on Peacock. I just started watching it with my in
Speaker 1: laws and my wife last night. It's about a doctor
Speaker 1: in Texas who was just a butcher and was just
Speaker 1: it was a neck and spine doctor. Is a true story.
Speaker 1: It's very sad. I know this story. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: This was an absolute butcher and he would people would
Speaker 1: go in for fusion surgeries and and uh to take
Speaker 1: care of her neated disks. Things like that that are
Speaker 1: obviously any surgery serious, but it should have been one,
Speaker 1: two three, and they were ending up either dead or paraplegics,
Speaker 1: all sorts of terrible things happening. And it's a story
Speaker 1: about these other doctors who went on a quest to
Speaker 1: stop him and get him out of the scrubs because
Speaker 1: the man was either sociopath or just completely an incompetent boob,
Speaker 1: and it was a little harder to stop him than
Speaker 1: you would think because of the various medical protocols. The
Speaker 1: tell it's based off a podcast series from one jury
Speaker 1: that was huge. I haven't checked that out, but the
Speaker 1: the television series has an amazing cast. It's the doctor
Speaker 1: Death is played by Pacy Witter from Dawson's Creek Joshua Jackson,
Speaker 1: which is just if you're a man of a certain
Speaker 1: age or a woman of a certain age, that's excellent.
Speaker 1: Christian Slater, who's just chewing up the scenery, is one
Speaker 1: of the good guys. And Baldwin ALC. Baldwin, my spirit animal,
Speaker 1: uh prominently involved as well. So check it out. And
Speaker 1: then my last thing is be like trash culture, true
Speaker 1: trash culture, and you like really bad movies, good bad movies,
Speaker 1: movies that tried to be good but ended up being
Speaker 1: hilariously bad. Go spend to and watch money Plane, starring Uh,
Speaker 1: the wrestler Edge and Kelsey grammar U. One of the
Speaker 1: one of the great It came out last year, one
Speaker 1: of the yes, one of the good bad movies that
Speaker 1: I've seen in many years. And I tracked this stuff
Speaker 1: fairly closely, like The Room, for instance, which became in Station. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's not truly a great bad movie unless the people
Speaker 1: who made it weren't in on the joke. And money
Speaker 1: Plane they were not in on the joke. So that out.
Speaker 1: If you are into that type of trash culture, which
Speaker 1: I am, I don't need to like tell you about
Speaker 1: some fancy intellectual book. I'll tell you what I like.
Speaker 1: That's what I like. Yeah, Greg, Greg, what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Can snob. You must have loved think you're better than
Speaker 1: all of us, and you must have loved season two
Speaker 1: if I think you should leave to Dana, have you
Speaker 1: watched that yet? So good? So I'm really surprised that
Speaker 1: people Dan turn his mic off. I really surprised people
Speaker 1: say yes that that then the first season, because I
Speaker 1: think I liked it even more. I think by the nature.
Speaker 1: That show, it's it's hit or miss, but when it hits,
Speaker 1: it's outrageous. And yes, I do like that show a lot. Greg,
Speaker 1: do me a favorite. Let's let's let's show how smart
Speaker 1: you are. Close your eyes and reach behind you and
Speaker 1: grab a book and let's see what the title is.
Speaker 1: Just close your eyes, reach behind you on that beautiful bookshelf.
Speaker 1: You play so strategically, and let's see what comes out
Speaker 1: of there. Nice little small one. This is Weather by
Speaker 1: Jennie Offal, great book. Oh yeah, a little quick short read.
Speaker 1: You better stop money, you're gonna give, You're gonna this.
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to get the business. Someone's got to come
Speaker 1: on here and give Greg the business. Those are the rules.
Speaker 1: I would think that I almost take a front to
Speaker 1: that theory that no one never says to Greg that
Speaker 1: they disagree with them. I do it quite often, but
Speaker 1: there's just so much to disagree with. The show would
Speaker 1: go on for seventeen hours like that. Exactly, I know it,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly my point. I recognize that Greg is
Speaker 1: a bully. He's always pushing, pushing, pushing, He's constantly pushing
Speaker 1: people around here, and you, like you said, you can't
Speaker 1: call him on everything or else, like the show would
Speaker 1: go on for three hours every time Money comes on.
Speaker 1: I mean Greg, somehow it's like it's it's like, uh
Speaker 1: that I heard I heard that, by the way, I
Speaker 1: felt that. And I'm looking at the counter and it's
Speaker 1: only an hour fifteen? Is that extraordinarily long for and
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast? Not anymore? All right, the old days?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll cap it at that. I love it guys
Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you for having me money. You you
Speaker 1: said it all. I did wait too much, but we
Speaker 1: we thank you as always join us and you you
Speaker 1: know where to find money. And I hope you'll find
Speaker 1: him with me on television this September the Power Rankings program.
Speaker 1: But we'll be back on Thursday with another show, so
Speaker 1: make sure you check that outt Like I said, the
Speaker 1: television program also returns on Friday. And don't forget Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be back with us, Greg. What do you
Speaker 1: think do you think we've done our last show with Mark?
Speaker 1: Be honest, hey, news flash, this happens every year at
Speaker 1: this time. Mysterious ailments, last minute things. Every we've done,
Speaker 1: We've got through this seven or any times. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm not worried at all. He always comes back. The
Speaker 1: mark move is have a preset vacation, and then on
Speaker 1: each side of the preset vacation dial in a sick day,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get a month off.
Speaker 1: Managed smarter than we than I am, that for sure. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: good stuff, Um until Thursday. Heed the call.