Speaker 1: Hey, Fucker's what up? This is Christina Hutchinson and Karin Fisher.
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Speaker 1: the anti slut shaming podcast. Uh. This week we interview
Speaker 1: stand up comedian rosebud Baker, who just released a special
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Speaker 1: Rosebud Baker where we really get into it, because a
Speaker 1: lot's happened to Rosebuds since we last spoke to her.
Speaker 1: She's married, she went through some uh traumatic personal issues
Speaker 1: that I guess you'll have. That seems like a real
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Speaker 1: I think people get stuck acting or living a certain
Speaker 1: way because they become so attached to what to this,
Speaker 1: like we we work and we live in a culture
Speaker 1: that's very uh, you know, you're you're working off a feedback,
Speaker 1: so like what people like about you online, which is
Speaker 1: of course the simulation is like what you're being rewarded for.
Speaker 1: So if that's where you're getting rewarded, it's pretty natural
Speaker 1: to just live according to what makes you feel good.
Speaker 1: But if that's the only thing that's making you feel good,
Speaker 1: you end up becoming sort of like a simulated version
Speaker 1: of yourself. And I see it happen in entertainment a lot,
Speaker 1: and I especially during COVID, it was really fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: So I just saw people like really losing their mind
Speaker 1: and and broadcasting and broadcasting and then in a way
Speaker 1: that was like, oh God, like in a way that
Speaker 1: made me question everything about what I was doing with
Speaker 1: my life. And still am, yeah, questioning everything about what
Speaker 1: I'm doing with because sometimes it's like the vulnerability, the
Speaker 1: pendulum swung way too hard in the other way, and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know how Uber says anyone can be
Speaker 1: a driver. That's just not true, but according to Uber,
Speaker 1: it is, and it's that's why you can fucking you
Speaker 1: have all these dumb dumbs being drive you to the
Speaker 1: airport and then you crash or he tries to rape
Speaker 1: you or something, or you just get a notification that's
Speaker 1: like your driver is blind hard Yeah, oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: your driver kid here, so okay, and then you feel
Speaker 1: like you're going to be can you if you but
Speaker 1: you have to sign a waiver to give your life
Speaker 1: away for this trip. It's like if if a woman
Speaker 1: cheated on you with your boyfriend during the Me Too movement,
Speaker 1: like feminism made you feel bad like talking shit about her,
Speaker 1: It's like this weird. I don't know. It's a balance.
Speaker 1: I think that people have to find what their own
Speaker 1: individual balance is. And that's a missing piece, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: because it's not that's like with with with with sexuality
Speaker 1: and women. It's like, yeah, we can fuck, but as
Speaker 1: somebody's like, oh man, I went out and I sucked
Speaker 1: ten guys tonight. I'd be like, that's sucked up. Where
Speaker 1: is the balance in your life? That's too much fucking
Speaker 1: that's not you can't you gotta eat, you gott something.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a U t I. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: a U T I. You're gonna get There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, but like mainly it's not balanced, and you're
Speaker 1: you're strutting this around as if it's something to be
Speaker 1: proud of. But really what you should to be proud
Speaker 1: of is something that you're like, oh, I figured out
Speaker 1: how to like work my life out. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. Do you feel like you've worked your life
Speaker 1: out since we last talked? Changed? Not so? I married
Speaker 1: engaged during quarantine. What was it the first second day day?
Speaker 1: We were dating for like six months, which I mean
Speaker 1: normally I would frown upon, but you are. I think
Speaker 1: when once you are in your thirties, it's okay to
Speaker 1: do that. I think so too. Yeah, I try, and
Speaker 1: I truly believe that. I tweeted about like you know
Speaker 1: what you like? You know, you know yourself? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: people do that in their twenties, it's absolutely crazy exactly
Speaker 1: because you just you I know how fast I am
Speaker 1: now at dumping people because I just know this is
Speaker 1: not gonna work. And so instead of things lasting to
Speaker 1: three or four years, you're like, oh, you know six months,
Speaker 1: eight months? And how did you know? This is such
Speaker 1: a cliche question, but how do you know you when
Speaker 1: to one? But how do you know somebody you can marry?
Speaker 1: I mean, I still I'm like, I still am. Like
Speaker 1: there's days where we get in a fight and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have to tell myself you can get divorced, as if,
Speaker 1: like as if it's like an affirmation, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I haven't just because I freak out because
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so permanent. But then I'm like,
Speaker 1: nothing's permanent, you know, Like I have to tell myself
Speaker 1: like divorces an option, divorces an option, And I just like,
Speaker 1: and I really get that a crochet on your wall.
Speaker 1: I know people say that that's like a fucked up
Speaker 1: way to think, but I really don't. It feels safe.
Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, it's that you have choices and
Speaker 1: you're not stuck. Yeah, look, you can love skydiving, but
Speaker 1: like you don't remove the rip chord to show that
Speaker 1: you love it, you know what I mean? Like you
Speaker 1: it's you have to know that that's there to feel
Speaker 1: safe skydiving, and like that's so. I wouldn't say that
Speaker 1: I ever got to a point where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is you know, um a sound option or like
Speaker 1: a great But I've always wanted to get married, like
Speaker 1: that was something that I wanted for myself more than
Speaker 1: having kids. I don't know why I was gonna say
Speaker 1: why what about it? I don't know. It was something
Speaker 1: that I always you know, growing up, like I had
Speaker 1: an aunt who was married to this guy and they
Speaker 1: were really in love and every time I saw them,
Speaker 1: they looked they were so fun together. They were always
Speaker 1: having so much fun. And I always wanted a marriage
Speaker 1: like that, Like I always wanted a marriage where it felt, um,
Speaker 1: what's the Sinatra song? It's like you make me feel
Speaker 1: so young. Like I wanted a marriage that made me
Speaker 1: feel like that. Did then aunt and uncle have kids.
Speaker 1: They did. They're still really happy, but like you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think that. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: get into that, but like the kids thing is a
Speaker 1: whole other. I will say that when I met Andy,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is the guy, like there
Speaker 1: was and I remember coming to talk to you about.
Speaker 1: For sure, there was that, you know, because you had
Speaker 1: actually calmly, you had gotten out of a really long
Speaker 1: term relationship. And then like I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can just read people's energy like you're you really
Speaker 1: it was like a side of you that I had
Speaker 1: never seen as your friend before was weird, just a
Speaker 1: different like like you felt lighter. I would say, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fun to see your friend like this thing was
Speaker 1: changing her for the bed, yeah, and not in like
Speaker 1: I never felt delusional. I felt like I felt light,
Speaker 1: and I felt happy and silly, but I didn't feel delusion.
Speaker 1: And it was also the one thing that I couldn't
Speaker 1: make fun of you about, so I knew you were
Speaker 1: like serious about it, because like you can make you
Speaker 1: can make fun of anything, like you know, Roseman's had
Speaker 1: a lot of things, serious things happened to her lives
Speaker 1: that she's fine making fun of. But I was like,
Speaker 1: this relationship was off limits, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: she really likes Yeah, No, I like with boyfriends, I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you fucking look at him weird, I'll punch you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like I protective. Yeah. I remember somebody coming
Speaker 1: up to me and being like, oh Andy's so cute.
Speaker 1: Like I remember he and I were like flirting a
Speaker 1: while ago, and and I would literally looked at them
Speaker 1: and I was like, cool, we like the same things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally was like, go fuck yourself. I got so pissed.
Speaker 1: And I had never been jealous before. I wasn't like
Speaker 1: a jealous person. And I still am like why am
Speaker 1: I jealous? So it seems maybe more protective. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean thing you find very precious. Yeah, I mean if
Speaker 1: there's probably a funked up underside to it, but if
Speaker 1: we paint it that way, I'm more comfortable. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could be the big Christine about it or corect right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably like a fucked up, twisted thing that I
Speaker 1: haven't explored fully, but yeah, I do. I think that
Speaker 1: there is. There's definitely a protective element to it. When
Speaker 1: he's upset or when somebody like isn't nice to him
Speaker 1: or doesn't laugh at his jokes in public, Like if
Speaker 1: he tells a joke and nobody hears it, I get
Speaker 1: so mad at the whole group. I'm like, they missed it.
Speaker 1: It's like you guys really like each other's cheerleader, Like Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a very supportive relationship too, and that's exciting because
Speaker 1: it's like, God, the sky's the limit with that kind
Speaker 1: of bond in my opinion, Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's tough is Uh. We're both comics, so
Speaker 1: there's definitely a level of like competition, but yeah, well
Speaker 1: who gets the bit kind of competition or you who's
Speaker 1: succeeding more like Tom Green, Drew Barrymore, I'd by this dynamic.
Speaker 1: It's more that yeah, and it's but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I was in a relationship with the comic before and
Speaker 1: we never talked about that, and we never and to
Speaker 1: be honest, why would we. Like he was a black guy,
Speaker 1: I was a white woman. It's like, what are we
Speaker 1: in competition? Like we don't tell anything from the perspective
Speaker 1: of a black man. And you're good and I with him.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If you don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: there is there's ship that goes on. There's jealousy that
Speaker 1: may not be connected to logic or you know, emotions
Speaker 1: are emotions, so they're weird, and I feel like not
Speaker 1: bringing that up, I don't know, it just made it
Speaker 1: weird sometimes. So one thing with the past relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like he would disagree with that,
Speaker 1: but you know, well, this is just your take off,
Speaker 1: this is just my take. But with Andy, he's always
Speaker 1: like making fun of the fact that he's always like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave me for like a TikToker or like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Or you're going to leave
Speaker 1: me for like some guy in the n b A
Speaker 1: or like, which is first of all hilarious that he
Speaker 1: thinks anybody in the NBA wants anyone over thirty r
Speaker 1: your way to geriatric. Yeah, I'm like, literally, I might
Speaker 1: as well be their grandma. But I feel like it's
Speaker 1: just more healthy now, you know, even though because joking
Speaker 1: about it is like the way of bringing it to
Speaker 1: the surface, because it's the tensions there no matter what.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I don't understand how it cannot be
Speaker 1: in any relationship where I've dated anyone in this industry,
Speaker 1: Like it's always there, and it's always you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just and it feels uncomfortable. Yeah, and you don't
Speaker 1: want it. You don't want to You just you want
Speaker 1: so badly for someone. It's like, out of all the people,
Speaker 1: you want your signif an other to be fucking happy
Speaker 1: for you right when. I mean, and it's fine if
Speaker 1: they're not. It's fine if they're not. I just do
Speaker 1: want them to be happy. Listen it. Ideally they'll be
Speaker 1: happy for it, but if they're not, I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm a petty bitch. I understand if you're not fucking
Speaker 1: happy about it. Just be honest. That's all I want least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want you to be authentic and just yourself
Speaker 1: at all times. You don't have to be your fucking
Speaker 1: best self. You could just be yourself. And I I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna like necessarily be like pleased with your reaction.
Speaker 1: But people are people. And it's so funny. I was
Speaker 1: like complaining about my husband to my therapist and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, bitching about him, and and my
Speaker 1: therapist was like, you act like this wouldn't be happening
Speaker 1: with someone else like this, you know, And he's so right,
Speaker 1: like it would be happening no matter what, Like no
Speaker 1: one is perfect, and there's this like idea that there's
Speaker 1: this perfect partner out there he's isn't gonna suffer from
Speaker 1: depression or that isn't going to have this being Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like you're dealing with a whole ass person
Speaker 1: and that's complicated everybody and each person has their own
Speaker 1: way of dealing with things and doing things in every
Speaker 1: way of life that you can possibly imagine. And living
Speaker 1: by myself for the last two years, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: a lot like having to I think about it more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, because I lived with a guy for
Speaker 1: six years. We were together for seven and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm honestly really impressed with us. So we had we
Speaker 1: had a pretty good run, Like we really didn't fight
Speaker 1: that much until the very end when we broke up.
Speaker 1: But like, wow, I can't believe two humans can live
Speaker 1: together and like, yeah, and it's crazy, Like that's I
Speaker 1: think the thing about being married that probably caught me
Speaker 1: off guard was the identity crisis that happens afterwards. Like
Speaker 1: that I feel like nobody really which what what identity
Speaker 1: is like from like a feminist perspective or yeah, from
Speaker 1: but also just from an as an in as an individual,
Speaker 1: you go from being single to being married, I worry
Speaker 1: about that and I didn't. Yeah, it's like there is
Speaker 1: a lot of compromising, and by compromise, what I mean
Speaker 1: is doing something that you don't want to do because
Speaker 1: it makes them happy, and that was just so foreign
Speaker 1: to me. You feel like that happens a lot more
Speaker 1: once you put the label of marriage on it, because
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's not that. I think it
Speaker 1: happens more because you feel obliged to you because you
Speaker 1: are married. Yeah, there's like a because there's fucking paperwork
Speaker 1: that happens to long terms, and it's long term. Let's
Speaker 1: make this good for both of us. I want to
Speaker 1: enjoy this. You want to enjoy this. Sometimes and there's
Speaker 1: like and it's bigger issues. It's like the fact that
Speaker 1: you know, if Andy dies, obviously I'm going to be sad,
Speaker 1: but I'm also going to inherit his fucking debt, so
Speaker 1: like you know what i mean, it's like another layer.
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you not kill yourself because that puts
Speaker 1: me on the hook for your fucking shitty financial decisions.
Speaker 1: So ease in this zone of like feelings whatever that
Speaker 1: now has repercused. I hate that part of it. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad I didn't marry that guy that was the
Speaker 1: last long term relationship because he ended up suing us.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, he would have taken all my money,
Speaker 1: every single penny. Yeah. Absolutely, And this is this is
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, how petty did you have? Petty?
Speaker 1: Is he? You know? No, I didn't get a prenup?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I was going to get a prenup
Speaker 1: because and then you can get a post up. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's ten dollars for each person what
Speaker 1: to get their own lawyer. So each person has to
Speaker 1: get their own lawyer, and then that's like a retainer.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is to get all of
Speaker 1: it written up is probably more. And so I just
Speaker 1: get to the way and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll just take the loss later. I like, I'm just
Speaker 1: like assuming if you but like you also know that,
Speaker 1: like you're starting your own sitcom, you get a post up,
Speaker 1: kitchen table contracts like our a thing. So even if
Speaker 1: you guys just like jotted it down yourselves, like yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have as much power in core, but it does.
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn'na be. This is gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to go home, Like we send you home from the
Speaker 1: Guys Being podcast and you asked Andy for a post Dude,
Speaker 1: he's so no husband will ever send he ever used
Speaker 1: to it though, because I like, when I was going
Speaker 1: to change my name, I was going to change it
Speaker 1: to like Baker Dash Haynes. And so when we were
Speaker 1: on the zoom with like the what's the person the
Speaker 1: official the officient or whatever, like we did the official
Speaker 1: wedding right, they were like, are you changing your name?
Speaker 1: And I was like do is that? Do I decide
Speaker 1: that now? And they were like, yeah, you were supposed
Speaker 1: to have decided that, and I was like, well I
Speaker 1: didn't know. You guys didn't tell me that you should
Speaker 1: send an email, send a heads up, make your decision,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you will wait for days to name their baby.
Speaker 1: And they knew that was kind out and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I just I just wrote okay Baker Haynes because
Speaker 1: I haven't really had a lot of time to think
Speaker 1: about this, and I also wanted to make him feel
Speaker 1: like his get his dick hard. And I was all right.
Speaker 1: So then afterwards, I'm like, what do I do so
Speaker 1: my name's changed right like it's and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: you have to go to the d m V. You
Speaker 1: have to Social Security, like every name has changed. And
Speaker 1: I was like all right, Well, I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 1: my name. Yeah, and I still haven't. We have to
Speaker 1: get remarried so I can keep my regular name so
Speaker 1: I don't have to go to the d m V.
Speaker 1: And I brought that up to Andy and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know this hurts my feeling was right, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but also you know, the notion of taking a man's
Speaker 1: name is very dated, like think about it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I did it, as like ah, but it also makes
Speaker 1: your name bump your performer. Baker is such a great name.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would never change my stage name, but
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna you know, as like a as like
Speaker 1: a little elbow. It's one of those things where you
Speaker 1: don't give a ship really but it makes him happy,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Yeah, that's one of those compromised exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, and I think it was It
Speaker 1: was kind of like also Baker Haynes doesn't really it
Speaker 1: doesn't add that much to know. It wasn't like a
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're white and now we still
Speaker 1: know you're white. Yeah, you're right, exactly. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for listening to that excerpt with comedian Rosebud Baker.
Speaker 1: If you want to hear the interview and its entirety,
Speaker 1: head on over to Apple dot c O slash g
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Speaker 1: We'll see you in Austin, Texas, septemb