Speaker 1: Burry that's Tipton packs intercepted by Henry Block and the
Speaker 1: games second turnover goes Green Bay's way. The pubic plays
Speaker 1: clock second of the game, cob touchdown Green Bay. Roger's
Speaker 1: cape swept hits tatted down in a stop von Kennard
Speaker 1: and it remains a three point game with under three
Speaker 1: and a half to go, end zone and picked off
Speaker 1: in intercepted by Russell Douglas, and the Packers are gonna
Speaker 1: win it. A J. Green was the target and he
Speaker 1: never looked for the ball. H J. Green, look back,
Speaker 1: there's a ball coming your way. There's a potential win.
Speaker 1: Russell Douglas with the game ceiling interceptionto cap one of
Speaker 1: the wildest, most entertaining uh I would say beautiful football
Speaker 1: games in the year. This is why we do this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal along with Patrick Cleavan. No one I
Speaker 1: would rather be recapping a wild Aaron Rodgers. How did
Speaker 1: he and the rest of his team pull this off? Victory?
Speaker 1: Then you claiban straight from your garage and your weight room.
Speaker 1: How you Greg? I'm doing great. We we just as
Speaker 1: as fun as it is to have the Hustle Douglas
Speaker 1: revenge game. Ceiling interception on the team that he spent
Speaker 1: time on the practice squad with after coming from the Panthers.
Speaker 1: It would have been the perfect ending to this game
Speaker 1: where you're missing your starting wide receivers. New Copkins goes
Speaker 1: out the rebirth of a j Green, rising like a
Speaker 1: phoenix from the ashes, and he catches the game winning instead. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's a confusing moment that I guess aj is gonna
Speaker 1: have to explain right now. I'm I'm assuming that he
Speaker 1: actually don't know. I don't. Yeah, it's tricky. We're to
Speaker 1: been this right after the game. He probably thought it
Speaker 1: was a running play and and was confused. He must
Speaker 1: have thought it was a different play than the play
Speaker 1: that was happening. And it was crazy because so many
Speaker 1: crazy moments led to that. Tow Packers fans will see
Speaker 1: that ending and feel like it's a ball don't line situation,
Speaker 1: not just because they felt like they were controlling the
Speaker 1: tempo of this game and really getting what they wanted offensively,
Speaker 1: but that a ten point lead on the scoreboard with
Speaker 1: a little under five minutes to go was taken off
Speaker 1: the scoreboard. Uh. When they determined that Aaron Jones did
Speaker 1: not score a touchdown, the Packers end up getting stood
Speaker 1: up on the goal line. It felt like half of
Speaker 1: the game was spent inside the Cardinals five yard line,
Speaker 1: and they held up two different times in the game,
Speaker 1: including that one where they end up making a play
Speaker 1: on fourth down knocking a Rodgers play. I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why they overturned that play, but it gave us what
Speaker 1: could have been like a why hild ending and still
Speaker 1: was a while ending. It felt like maybe we're gonna
Speaker 1: get Kyle Kyler Murray's m VP front runner type moment,
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. It didn't happen, and I give
Speaker 1: the Packers a ton of credit for getting to that
Speaker 1: point where they could get what was a great play
Speaker 1: by Douglas. Obviously a lucky played by that he was
Speaker 1: in that position, but a one handed play to do
Speaker 1: what they did offensively really surprised me in this game
Speaker 1: that they were able to run the ball with Dylan
Speaker 1: uh and control the temple and score so many times
Speaker 1: and just keep the ball away from Kyler. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think Zaven Collins leaving the game left a huge
Speaker 1: hole in the middle of that Cardinals defense. I think
Speaker 1: it was I think it's Fallejo. Um, he got smashed
Speaker 1: over by both Dylan and Jones a couple of times,
Speaker 1: uh in the game, and you know, going back to
Speaker 1: the touchdown Greg and putting aside the yeah, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let's break down because the end of this game was
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter alone was like a movie. It was insane.
Speaker 1: So yeah Jones, Jones looked like he scored that touchdown
Speaker 1: and then they return it, and then the Packers get
Speaker 1: a couple of plays and don't end up scoring that touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is which is how I would prefer for it
Speaker 1: to be called, right if if we're if we're reviewing plays,
Speaker 1: it's with the idea that, well, there's a chance the
Speaker 1: official got it wrong. So I don't understand why we
Speaker 1: use the call that the official made as some sort
Speaker 1: of standard bear to say, okay, well you know we
Speaker 1: have to the video has to show us something that
Speaker 1: disagrees with that call. Specifically, I would I don't mind
Speaker 1: them stitching the frames together. I hear this one, and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they stitched frames better than I thought they
Speaker 1: could have. But just seems like you had no idea
Speaker 1: based on like the depth perception of like where the
Speaker 1: cameras were I was like, I have no clue he
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, like whether he did or not, kind
Speaker 1: of seem like he did, but it does like I
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, no, it's it's it's something that there
Speaker 1: were some weird spots in this game, including the one
Speaker 1: right before so Kyler gets hurt. It's it's a questionable
Speaker 1: first down. Joe Buck was confused. I think maybe A J.
Speaker 1: Green was kind of tilting off of that as well.
Speaker 1: Kyler is limping back and AJ is like, all right,
Speaker 1: there's no way, we're no, there's know where we're we're
Speaker 1: throwing the football here. We need to kind of get
Speaker 1: set and get the first down. But then maybe that
Speaker 1: was what happened. A J. Green didn't know. Well, they
Speaker 1: ran a play in between that, you know, they ran
Speaker 1: a play to Chase Edmonds and then took their their
Speaker 1: final time out in between that. And I give again
Speaker 1: the Packers defense, which look, I know they gave up
Speaker 1: touchdown touchdown right at the end there and almost gave
Speaker 1: up a third, but ultimately got the Cardinals off the
Speaker 1: field five different times in four plays or less, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, that's impressive to do. And in that play
Speaker 1: where Chase Edmonds was stopped before the final time out.
Speaker 1: I actually was like, Oh, they're gonna score a touchdown
Speaker 1: if they just hurry up and run the ball here,
Speaker 1: because it just felt like that's how the game had been,
Speaker 1: especially when they were in the red zone and they
Speaker 1: did hurry it up and they handed it off and
Speaker 1: they held up for that one play. And there were
Speaker 1: so many different plays in this game that felt like
Speaker 1: that was gonna swing it. But now with the benefit
Speaker 1: of hindsight, it's like, Okay, if they needed to hold
Speaker 1: up one more play, get a little a big lucky break,
Speaker 1: and Douglas had to also make a great catch. You
Speaker 1: should not dismiss that that was a difficult catcher any
Speaker 1: man to make much let's say a cornerback. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: with stabbing the ball, uh from the their with your
Speaker 1: palm and then coming back and finding it. Of all
Speaker 1: that A. J. Green never saw until he until he
Speaker 1: actually caught it. But honestly, the surprise greg to me
Speaker 1: because the whole drive, of course, uh you get this.
Speaker 1: You start to see the tweets where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't score too fast, you know, because twelve is gonna
Speaker 1: go right back down the field. I'm like with what
Speaker 1: right with with Jason Degura? Right, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: have twenty yard balls to ramble up. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: man Degura made a play. I felt like this was
Speaker 1: like the Night of the Living Gouda Cun's draft picks
Speaker 1: that everyone made fun of. It's like, like as much
Speaker 1: as everyone made fun of A. J. Dillon in Jordan
Speaker 1: Left for that better, It's like A J. Dillon is good.
Speaker 1: I've seen enough, Like he is a really good NFL
Speaker 1: running back in the In the combination of him and Dylon,
Speaker 1: I mean, him and Jones gave them a chance on
Speaker 1: offense tonight. Like if you put to average running backs
Speaker 1: back there, they just don't have an offense so many
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking of that. What was it a
Speaker 1: fourth down play where where Dylan was stopped behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage from Jordan Hicks and he just ends
Speaker 1: up running them over. That was a big fourth down play. Um,
Speaker 1: And it's an offensive line that's not the same, But
Speaker 1: it seems like they're a little better at run blocking,
Speaker 1: like a lot of offensive lines than than they are
Speaker 1: trying to protect the Aaron Rodgers. So you gotta give
Speaker 1: them a little love, Yeah, play of love. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the targets here, So Jones had eleven targets for
Speaker 1: for Tony and we don't we don't know what his
Speaker 1: injury update is for Maybe there's more to grain for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Uh, Randall Cobb had five,
Speaker 1: Brown had three of Mari Rodgers had three. Marcedes Lewis
Speaker 1: almost had that touchdown, right, Uh, just stay a long
Speaker 1: list of of like you know, are these guys gonna contribute? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who don't play wide receiver? I mean it's Jones, it's Tony,
Speaker 1: and it's sure even Cobb. It felt like he had
Speaker 1: a big night because he had two touchdowns. He had
Speaker 1: fifteen yards in this game, and they stitched it together.
Speaker 1: At one point, Rogers was ten for twenty. They had
Speaker 1: sixty four yards. He had sixty four yards and they
Speaker 1: had the lead. That was That was like halftime, and
Speaker 1: and that was where I thought, okay, like that was
Speaker 1: the half where coaching got you this far. Roger was
Speaker 1: going to have to be able to throw in the
Speaker 1: second half, and he did throw enough because the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: after getting stopped in the second half to start the
Speaker 1: second half, end up finishing the game as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: and it was an interception that that it was a
Speaker 1: tipball interception that stopped Kyler end up going touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 1: and then that final drive where they're running racing down
Speaker 1: the field. So the Packers defense did just enough before
Speaker 1: finally the Cardinals kind of kicked in surprise. Surprised, especially
Speaker 1: to see how good Kyler was moving before before he
Speaker 1: got hurt on that final drive that that we didn't
Speaker 1: see more of that through the game. And Kyl has
Speaker 1: been running a lot uh in the past few weeks.
Speaker 1: Um Edmonds is so good you extorted, don't need him.
Speaker 1: That's part of the issue. He's good, They're both they're
Speaker 1: both playing well. But hopefully he's okay. I think that's
Speaker 1: concerned Number one. You know, new Camp in and out
Speaker 1: of the game with the hamstring. But yeah, if number
Speaker 1: one is out for any period of time, you wonder, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just while you're right. It happened so late in the
Speaker 1: game that that you don't know. And I thought Kyler's
Speaker 1: accuracy was off throughout the night. Troy Aikman talked about
Speaker 1: the pinky that was wrapped and he he's been just
Speaker 1: so accurate and watch every throw to do QB index.
Speaker 1: I just think he's one of the most accurate quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: whether he's moving around or not, but especially when his
Speaker 1: feeder planning and he missed a couple of throws or
Speaker 1: was a list a little off, and I was wondering
Speaker 1: if that pinky was a factor. There was that seam
Speaker 1: ball to think it was kirk uh yeah, where it
Speaker 1: could have been a touchdown um and he missed it
Speaker 1: by all. And you just haven't seen throws like that
Speaker 1: from Murray a couple that like when out of bound.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering if that was a problem. Man.
Speaker 1: I hope he's not here injured. This was a horrible
Speaker 1: game for injuries. We should run through it. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a really scary one on a kickoff where
Speaker 1: it sounds like both guys are going to be okay,
Speaker 1: but but Tony in that looked like a serious injury.
Speaker 1: Hopkins went in and out of the game with his
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, made a big play in the first aft
Speaker 1: and was mostly out the rest of the way except
Speaker 1: for a cameo or two. It was just like I
Speaker 1: just wanted to It's like, just end this game before
Speaker 1: anyone else gets hurt. Yeah, the collision between I think
Speaker 1: it was Kylan Hill and John van Ward was was
Speaker 1: one of the scarier ones of the season, and we
Speaker 1: didn't like. I didn't watch the replay because I assumed
Speaker 1: it was a gruesome knee injury, but reward being down
Speaker 1: on the field, I always wonder how guys were able
Speaker 1: to go back, especially on a Thursday night after just
Speaker 1: playing a game a few days ago and finishing the game,
Speaker 1: but everybody did. Tony looked crazy too, and then he
Speaker 1: walked off the field, which doesn't say too much, but
Speaker 1: I was surprised after watching that injury, um that he
Speaker 1: was able to walk off the field. The Packers crowd
Speaker 1: really struck me. I mean that was like that that
Speaker 1: that jumped out to you, that that they didn't it.
Speaker 1: I mean, just like it really felt like it was
Speaker 1: fifty fifty there they went wild off, Greg. That's what
Speaker 1: Troy now, Well, you know he's he's he can only
Speaker 1: see one side of the field because he's in the booth.
Speaker 1: You buying into. Um. This Packers team at seven and one,
Speaker 1: who like hasn't been impressing anyone with style points, but
Speaker 1: has now one seven straight games, including in Arizona, without
Speaker 1: some of their best players. Yeah, I'm gonna buy into
Speaker 1: the seven and one team that just knocked off the
Speaker 1: only end defeative team in the league, and they've been
Speaker 1: to back to back championship games and their quarterbacks going
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Many I've watched too many
Speaker 1: bad sports talk shows them now just talking like them now,
Speaker 1: it's like the Lakers better without Lebron, right. I Mean
Speaker 1: it's funny because I've been I've had this theory all
Speaker 1: year that it's like Aaron Rodgers game manager that he's
Speaker 1: doing some Breeze Brady type stuff when things aren't going
Speaker 1: right on their offense, where it's like, I think he's
Speaker 1: being aggressive when he needs to, but the offensive line
Speaker 1: hasn't been great and they've been coaching around it and
Speaker 1: they haven't needed him, And tonight he did a great
Speaker 1: job of that for the most part. But they also
Speaker 1: blew three time outs until you know with five minutes
Speaker 1: was that I noticed there were a couple of times
Speaker 1: where Rogers is motioning to the sideline to get the
Speaker 1: play in and there's super is it because they were
Speaker 1: going with this like crew of flunkeys because there were
Speaker 1: so many injuries and guys out on the on the
Speaker 1: COVID list right that that it just took forever to
Speaker 1: get the play in because I know Aaron likes to
Speaker 1: mess with the play clock, but that was just that
Speaker 1: was absurd. Now that that that's a good theory, but
Speaker 1: it happened in the first half too. I was noticing
Speaker 1: they took a time out early in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and then they took two in their in their last
Speaker 1: drive of the fourth quarter, and because of that, they
Speaker 1: ended up getting backed up off the goal line with
Speaker 1: the delay a game. Aaron Rodgers the veteran taking a
Speaker 1: delay a game before he tried to dive into the end.
Speaker 1: So there were so many plays in this game, clai
Speaker 1: Bon where it felt like, oh my god, that's like
Speaker 1: the defining play of this game. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury going for it on fourth and four in
Speaker 1: his own end early third quarter down ten was a
Speaker 1: huge play, and I think it was Urts. I know
Speaker 1: he caught the other fourth down, I can't remember off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. They also convert another fourth down.
Speaker 1: Arts is like a factor on this team. He is,
Speaker 1: He's helping Max Williams isn't making those plays us as
Speaker 1: much as I like Max Williams, and why does zek
Speaker 1: Arts look faster than he ever did in Philadelphia? I
Speaker 1: think it's the black uniform. They all look fast in
Speaker 1: that uniform. I feel like everyone on their team is
Speaker 1: single digits. I don't know how it works that way.
Speaker 1: The guess it can't be true, but it just feels
Speaker 1: like they're single digits. They're all moving very very fast.
Speaker 1: What what a game? What a way to lose your
Speaker 1: first game if you're the Cardinals, mm hmmm. Because in
Speaker 1: the NFC West, like now, they're gonna be tied with
Speaker 1: the Rams. Like every every loss I think in this
Speaker 1: NFC West is going to be crucial. Not that I
Speaker 1: think they're both going to go fifteen and two or anything,
Speaker 1: but it might take fourteen and three to win this division,
Speaker 1: you know. And and here's here's one of those and
Speaker 1: you feel like I feel like, yeah, you had that
Speaker 1: like miracle, great comeback right there? Yeah, so close, so close.
Speaker 1: Should should have won, should have won it A J.
Speaker 1: Greene should have scored the walk off touchdown. That that hurts?
Speaker 1: That hurts or Kyler? Yeah, that maybe that like limited
Speaker 1: the play calls at the end of like whether you
Speaker 1: were going to use him as a runner. Um he
Speaker 1: ends up with two interceptions in this game. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about this, Packerstein.
Speaker 1: This is kind of like the past, like I was
Speaker 1: talking about it with with someone um with Ali are
Speaker 1: are at or a writing editor at the desk. Today
Speaker 1: is just like I've seen too many of these Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers moments. It's like the game where they're actually an underdog,
Speaker 1: which feels pretty rare over the years. It is just like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no one's given them a chance. And then
Speaker 1: at the end of it, it's him having the interview
Speaker 1: with Aaron Aaron Andrews and that's what happened. They make
Speaker 1: plays like that on defense, defense plays that well, Uh,
Speaker 1: they win the they win the Super Bowl. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: their defense has been incredibly resourceful, and they're gonna get healthier. Uh.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get David Bactieri back on the offense too.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get Zadarius Smith back. Eventually, They're dangerous. I
Speaker 1: love this NFC. There's so many really good teams with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, uh, and the Rams and the Bucks obviously
Speaker 1: all so in the mix. So we we will enjoy
Speaker 1: watching it I appreciate you really making the time. You know,
Speaker 1: became became kind of like a bit this week whether
Speaker 1: you were actually gonna do this show? Um, because like Dan,
Speaker 1: I I think, um, well, actually you explain the interaction
Speaker 1: to me. I want to see what your vantage point
Speaker 1: when I asked you to do this on Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: set I'll set the stage for everybody. So I sit
Speaker 1: approximately seven ft away. There's a hallway or a walk
Speaker 1: away in between Greg and I. Grant walks into the newsroom.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, what's up, Greg? That's going all right?
Speaker 1: And he says hey, He's like, hey, would you be
Speaker 1: interested in doing a you know, a t n F
Speaker 1: recap pod? And I think, because I'm not a very
Speaker 1: smart person, for anybody listening that you know, might think otherwise.
Speaker 1: I'm sure most of you know this. So it takes
Speaker 1: me a second to think, all right, what day is Thursday?
Speaker 1: That's Thursday? Um, Do I have any plans? No? I
Speaker 1: watch football? Do I enjoy the company of Greg Rosenthal? Yes? Uh?
Speaker 1: Will my wife be opposed to this? That's that's not
Speaker 1: not if I do it in the garage right while
Speaker 1: the children sleep. So there we go. This is that's
Speaker 1: so I said yes, and Greg didn't believe me, and
Speaker 1: then he tried to like talk me into it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've already said yes, Greg, where are you
Speaker 1: trying to talk me into this? It was a long
Speaker 1: it was a long pause. It was it felt like
Speaker 1: it was like a minute. And Dan, he's now mentioned
Speaker 1: this a few times on the show. I thought it
Speaker 1: was like some almost like awkward situation where you felt
Speaker 1: forced into it and that you really weren't too sure
Speaker 1: that I should have probably like given you an out,
Speaker 1: and I said no. Patrick claibn is a man of
Speaker 1: integrity of conviction that he that if he says that
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it, he's gonna just say it because
Speaker 1: because he wants to be nice to me. He's gonna
Speaker 1: say it because uh, he wants to do it, and
Speaker 1: that he's looking forward to it. That he's gonna sit
Speaker 1: on his trash can in his garage at his weight
Speaker 1: bench behind him. Uh, there's you said you got you
Speaker 1: got it off of like the street or something. You're
Speaker 1: sitting off with something, some trash off the street out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this table is and I put it in
Speaker 1: my garage specifically for instances like this. Yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to all the people leaving furniture trash um out in
Speaker 1: the New York streets from the years two thousand three
Speaker 1: to two thousand twelve. You kept you kept my apartment
Speaker 1: full of furniture still still even even in l A.
Speaker 1: I'm not above taking one or two, uh, especially for
Speaker 1: the outside. But thank you for doing a claibon. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a lot of fun. I feel like this
Speaker 1: game was so good it was too much, too much
Speaker 1: to even handle mentally. Let's move on. I know you've
Speaker 1: got Fantasy Live Friday, Fantasy Live four days a week.
Speaker 1: Everyone checked that out. We'll also have the a t
Speaker 1: N broadcast coming up on Saturday morning on NFL Network
Speaker 1: and uh Saturday afternoon on Sky Sports Buddy for Patrick Claiban.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal and I lost my lock forgot about that.
Speaker 1: I'm a bye bye sa