Speaker 1: Welcome to Guys We Fucked. Guys, We Guys book. I'm Christina,
Speaker 1: I'm Coren. We're sorry about last night, the anti slut
Speaker 1: shaming podcast. I never stopped. Hey everybody, and welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of Guys, We Fucked. Guys, We Fucked. It's
Speaker 1: the anti slut shaming Podcast. I'm Karren, I'm Christina. Harolary
Speaker 1: Clinton Democratic Comminat. This is so fucking cool because women
Speaker 1: can really do anything now, this is true. We're very
Speaker 1: excited and no matter what your political stances and no
Speaker 1: matter who you voted for in the primaries, this is
Speaker 1: just like a kind of a moment to stop and
Speaker 1: be like, wow, yeah, we've come along. Why we are
Speaker 1: living through a hugely historical moment right now, and it's exciting.
Speaker 1: I even got my boyfriend, who is a an avid
Speaker 1: Trump supporter. I was like, you need to give me
Speaker 1: twenty four hours to same thing negative about Democrats or
Speaker 1: Hillary and you need and you just need to recognize
Speaker 1: that this is exciting just because of progress. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was excited when Barack Obama was the nominee. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, if he gets to the president, black
Speaker 1: man in the White House, that is fucking incredible. It's
Speaker 1: exciting to see a new face, someone who's going to
Speaker 1: have a different life experience that they bring. It's exciting.
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama just gave a speech at a college commencement
Speaker 1: and she said, I live in a house that's built
Speaker 1: by slaves, and I was like, fuck, and and just
Speaker 1: how far the progress that has been made. And of
Speaker 1: course there's still more to go. But with the woman thing,
Speaker 1: women are always last on the list to get shipped. True,
Speaker 1: we were last to get suffrage. That wasn't that long ago,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't. And then in some countries like the Vatican,
Speaker 1: you can't women can't vote. Still. I think that's actually
Speaker 1: one of the remaining countries that women can't vote. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, women's rights are behind everybody else's rights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's globally, yeah, it's And this is really fucking exciting.
Speaker 1: And I think it's really truly like showing that if
Speaker 1: you if you put your mind to something, and if
Speaker 1: you really work hard. I mean there, I just was googling.
Speaker 1: There's pictures you can you can go back decades and
Speaker 1: decades and you just see Hillary fucking sitting at tests,
Speaker 1: always making like just working so hard, and it no
Speaker 1: matter what you feel about Hillary or whatever, that's not
Speaker 1: the point. Like we want everyone to listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Whether you like Bernie or you're gonna vote for Trump,
Speaker 1: that's cool, that's not that's not a problem. Just listen
Speaker 1: to other people's opinions and just I kind of noted
Speaker 1: like John Ronson in a few episodes ago said that
Speaker 1: he likes to follow people who have differing opinions from
Speaker 1: him on Twitter because he learns more. That why we
Speaker 1: all know he's a genius. So it's just, yeah, listen
Speaker 1: to other people's perspectives and we have an intelligent conversation.
Speaker 1: But if you're just gonna blast us with emails or
Speaker 1: social media things being like that she's stupid, she's a
Speaker 1: murderer and she supports child rapists, like I cannot, I cannot.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see your crying face emoji. That's
Speaker 1: not an opinion. And uh, I've been have I mean,
Speaker 1: my dad's a die hard Republican because probably influenced by
Speaker 1: his experience in the Navy getting drafted when he was eighteen,
Speaker 1: Like that's what he cares about. He cares more about
Speaker 1: um candidates stances on finances and world and world policy
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. The social stuff. To him, it
Speaker 1: just because it doesn't affect him because he's a white guy,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't care about But he and I always
Speaker 1: have conversations about He makes me watch certain programs, he
Speaker 1: makes me listen to certain speeches, and he's like, next
Speaker 1: time you come home, Christine, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about that. And we do have They get heated,
Speaker 1: but it's good to have heated political arguments because that's
Speaker 1: how you learn. Yeah, and I definitely have some views
Speaker 1: that are definitely more Republican or more democratic. It's just
Speaker 1: listen to other people and be an informed voter, and
Speaker 1: also like be realistic. You know, what are things that
Speaker 1: could actually happen that people are promising you. You can
Speaker 1: promise anyone anything, but what's really going to happen? You know?
Speaker 1: So Hillary Rodham, Clinton, congrats, girls, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: This is fucking exciting. Yeah. And that the same day
Speaker 1: that Hillary was not the official nominee for the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: I saw one of the most incredible human beings, not women, humans,
Speaker 1: humans on the goddamn fucking planet. And that human is
Speaker 1: beyoncegnals and I gotta tell you guys, I don't give
Speaker 1: a ship again, just like Cren saying with Hillary, I
Speaker 1: don't give a ship. What you think about Beyonce. Okay,
Speaker 1: you should see one of her concerts before you die.
Speaker 1: It is it is, you know, we're all we always
Speaker 1: talk about women's issues, and we always talk about women
Speaker 1: could do stuff too, and I say it and I
Speaker 1: and it's it gets tiring. It gets tiring. I hate
Speaker 1: having do you know, jump up and down being like
Speaker 1: women could do this stuff too, respect us. Going to
Speaker 1: Beyonce concert is just fucking proof that it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what who if you, if you work hard, it's something.
Speaker 1: She is the most powerful human being I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life, I've ever heard of in my life.
Speaker 1: And she's graceful and she's beautiful and she's talented and
Speaker 1: she's just like you don't look at her and go, yeah,
Speaker 1: women can do anything. You're like, no, humans can do anything.
Speaker 1: And that to me is the most powerful fucking thing.
Speaker 1: So just see a Beyonce concert before you die, because
Speaker 1: you won't regret it. I cried the first thirty minutes
Speaker 1: she was out. I was having a panic attack Wendy.
Speaker 1: I went with Wendy and Melissa and Vanessa, all guys.
Speaker 1: We actually and they were all all these horns, sorry
Speaker 1: guys um and they were like, they were so excited,
Speaker 1: but they kept going, are you okay, Christina? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna be okay? Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine. But it
Speaker 1: was one of the most powerful experiences of my entire life.
Speaker 1: We'll seeing performances, yeah, I mean, anything is it's always
Speaker 1: very powerful. And for me, like I'm always crying during
Speaker 1: plays and concerts, I definitely cried the first of myself
Speaker 1: the Spice Girls. I think it's interesting about Beyonce though.
Speaker 1: Number one, it was amazing because she sold out city
Speaker 1: Field right twice tents and how many people do you know?
Speaker 1: I don't know. But because we were we were twelfth
Speaker 1: row right, because I had no I was like city Field,
Speaker 1: that's I kept I've been there, it's hug The concert
Speaker 1: was for us. And then every once in a while
Speaker 1: I would look back and the stadium of Humans was
Speaker 1: behind me, and I'm like, God, damn, this is a
Speaker 1: powerful person. Like the fact that she and everyone was
Speaker 1: in a good mood. We were bumping into people on
Speaker 1: the way to get whiskey or like to get merch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and no one was being mean about it. They're like,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's fine. Like everyone was the happiest I've
Speaker 1: ever seen a giant group of people in one area
Speaker 1: when it says, and I think it's nice, it's nice
Speaker 1: for that Beyonce is not only a woman, but a
Speaker 1: black woman, because that's arguably the most neglected group in
Speaker 1: in one of in one of in history, and underappreciated
Speaker 1: groups in history. So it's kind of there's something nice
Speaker 1: about Yeah, well, yeah, god, she's perfect. She's she. I
Speaker 1: react towards her. I probably said, it's a thousand times
Speaker 1: the way like Jesus freaks react about Jesus and the
Speaker 1: way that Jesus influences the life. I'm not even kidding,
Speaker 1: like not to say when she gives advice, I do it,
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Speaker 1: know we had to talk about it. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about it. It was the story of the week
Speaker 1: and hopefully much longer because we need to talk about it. Uh.
Speaker 1: That Stanford rape, Yeah, that sucked. Uh. If you guys
Speaker 1: don't know about it. That means you don't own a
Speaker 1: computer or smartphone. But um, essentially, a young girl went
Speaker 1: with three younger sister to a frat party. They both
Speaker 1: got drunk and then um the girl somehow got so
Speaker 1: inebriated and this guy, brock Turner, was I guess walking
Speaker 1: her home or dragging her home and eventually ended up
Speaker 1: putting her on the ground and parking lot by a dumpster,
Speaker 1: raping her. And then two men, young Swedish men who
Speaker 1: go to the school. We're riding their bikes pasted it.
Speaker 1: Noticed the girl was unconscious and not moving and there
Speaker 1: was a guy thrusting on top of her. Chased him,
Speaker 1: he ran away, They tackled him. She got a rape
Speaker 1: kid proceed to the trial actually happening. He was a
Speaker 1: hud convicted on all three counts. The jury, every single
Speaker 1: member of the jury said he was guilty of rape.
Speaker 1: And then he gets six fucking months in prison. So
Speaker 1: he I think he was facing up to a lot
Speaker 1: more years than that. I don't know if it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I have fourteen years in my
Speaker 1: head right. And then and the judge was also a
Speaker 1: Stanford athlete himself, and he cited Brock Turners swimming stats.
Speaker 1: Is that what he or is that was an incited
Speaker 1: in That wasn't an article in an article about it?
Speaker 1: You know when they talked about the rape and then
Speaker 1: they printed his swim times and I think there was
Speaker 1: also when that printed places you could see him swim
Speaker 1: and I was like, what if you want to drown him? Like?
Speaker 1: What was doing there? In the letter? In the twelve
Speaker 1: page letter that the woman who was raped read to
Speaker 1: directly to Brock I don't, I think. And this was
Speaker 1: after his sentence was announced, because she, you know, voices
Speaker 1: her disappointment and it's very disappointing because to me, that
Speaker 1: says you don't give a funk about people getting raped.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what that says to me, A judge
Speaker 1: not care. Because the judge was saying, well, I don't
Speaker 1: want this to have any too large of effect on
Speaker 1: his life when a rape is something that most times
Speaker 1: is probably gonna have a lifelong effect on the victims
Speaker 1: or the survivor's life. Yeah. Man, And if that ain't
Speaker 1: rich white privilege, who, I don't know. I do think
Speaker 1: that that was part of it. Well, it's also I mean,
Speaker 1: there is it's also a cult nous to like sports
Speaker 1: and also colleges like STANFORDT So there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of dirtiness going on there. And and you know, we
Speaker 1: posted links about we posted the girl. I think everyone
Speaker 1: should read the twelve page statement she read. I read
Speaker 1: every single word of it. It took me probably an
Speaker 1: hour to get through because of crying. It was very upsetting,
Speaker 1: and and it kind of dawned on me that after
Speaker 1: she read that, and then Brock Turner's father wrote a
Speaker 1: letter to the judge that was also published that said,
Speaker 1: it's not fair that my son has this jail time
Speaker 1: for just twenty minutes of action. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: sucking think it was a rape, But I mean I
Speaker 1: I also can't even believe that, even if he didn't
Speaker 1: think it was rape, that anyone described anything sexual and
Speaker 1: aggressive like that as twenty minutes of action, like in
Speaker 1: a letter that you know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going to see or hear, like, what the funk are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Right? So I know where Brock gets
Speaker 1: it from. Um not to say his father is a rapist,
Speaker 1: but he clearly does not even understand what sexual assault is.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people don't understand what
Speaker 1: sexual assault is. If you're a woman, the likelihood of
Speaker 1: your understanding is far greater than a man. But there
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys who were outraged as well.
Speaker 1: And the two guys that were fucking heroes in this
Speaker 1: whole thing were the ones who saw him raping her
Speaker 1: and went to tackle him. I mean that that's incredible.
Speaker 1: But it's like, and I kind of even the heroes
Speaker 1: in this situation were men, because it's nice to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: showing like it's not it's not men are bad. It's
Speaker 1: not hashtag kill all men. It's be a decent human being.
Speaker 1: And when you're having to have sexual intercourse, the two parties,
Speaker 1: you guys got to both be up awake, active to
Speaker 1: be able to consent number one and the most important
Speaker 1: thing absolutely And so what we wanted to do, um
Speaker 1: for the remaining of this introduction to this podcast episode,
Speaker 1: christ and I said time and time again, how many
Speaker 1: email If you search the word rape in our inbox
Speaker 1: for molested, you will there are hundreds of emails, probably copia. Yeah, so, um,
Speaker 1: we're going to read some of them to you. Um,
Speaker 1: because hearing about it, it's not exactly the most pleasant
Speaker 1: thing in the world. But it's what needs to happen
Speaker 1: for more people to understand how how common of an
Speaker 1: occurrence this is, and how so often the people who
Speaker 1: are raped, men and women, feel fucking helpless, and no
Speaker 1: one wants to pay any mind to what sexual assault
Speaker 1: can do to your soul. So this first email, the
Speaker 1: subject line is my city won't test my rape kit
Speaker 1: or anyone else's. She says, A bunch of nice things,
Speaker 1: and she says two and a half months ago, I
Speaker 1: stayed overnight at my best friend of seventeen years apartment
Speaker 1: over a holiday weekend with her and her fiance and
Speaker 1: his friend. To throw it in a nutshell, I believe
Speaker 1: that I was sexually assaulted by the fiance's friend, but
Speaker 1: the problem is I don't know for sure. I had
Speaker 1: very little to drink that last that night, yet somehow
Speaker 1: completely blacked out. I have never blacked out drinking before,
Speaker 1: and believe me, I have had far more to drink
Speaker 1: than what I had that night and barely even gotten
Speaker 1: buzzed from it. The friend, who I had never met
Speaker 1: before that night and wasn't aware he was going to
Speaker 1: be there, was the one who made me the last drink.
Speaker 1: I remember drinking. I remember it tasting pretty strong, but
Speaker 1: didn't think much of it at the time. Next thing
Speaker 1: I know, I woke up in the morning covered and
Speaker 1: bruises on my wrists, knees, shoulders everywhere. I was nauseous
Speaker 1: as hell, a nasty taste in my mouth, and a
Speaker 1: general foggy feeling in my head. It didn't feel like
Speaker 1: a hangover, though it was different, and my instincts were
Speaker 1: telling me right away that something was not right. Before
Speaker 1: I left, the fiance came in yelling at me, demanding
Speaker 1: I get in the shower before I left. I like
Speaker 1: an idiot, did because I was confused and afraid. After
Speaker 1: I got out, he was screaming at me something more
Speaker 1: about leaving. I demanded to talk to my best friend
Speaker 1: first context. He has been emotionally abusedive in controlling towards
Speaker 1: her over their entire relationship. Like I said, we have
Speaker 1: known each other of her almost our entire life, so
Speaker 1: I know damn well when she's lying. He finally leaves
Speaker 1: and he lets her come in. I asked her about
Speaker 1: her bruises. About the bruises, she says, I fell down
Speaker 1: the stairs and the friend carried me back up. I
Speaker 1: point blank asked her if they drugged me. She says no.
Speaker 1: I want to believe her so badly since this was
Speaker 1: my best friend, but again, we know each other like
Speaker 1: the back of our hands, or so I thought, and
Speaker 1: I could just tell in her voice that she wasn't
Speaker 1: telling me the whole truth. I grabbed my stuff and
Speaker 1: got the hell out of there. I was sick with
Speaker 1: that nauseous, foggy feeling for a whole three days after that.
Speaker 1: I know my body and there's no doubt in my
Speaker 1: mind that this at this point, that I was drugged.
Speaker 1: I wish I could say that, uh that going to
Speaker 1: report it was my own idea. But I'm one of those,
Speaker 1: uh that, I'm one of those strong, amazing women who
Speaker 1: stand up for themselves and fight. But I wasn't. My froze.
Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was just laid down and
Speaker 1: forget it. All of her happened. I called my sister
Speaker 1: once I left, and she's the one who made me
Speaker 1: go to get the rape kit. The nurse who administered
Speaker 1: it said that my injuries were not conclusive to a fall,
Speaker 1: but that in her opinion, it appeared that someone had
Speaker 1: held me down on my knees biting me. I had
Speaker 1: to go get an st D HIV prevention medication for
Speaker 1: an entire month after the fact, having to literally swallow
Speaker 1: a physical reminder of that morning every single day, which
Speaker 1: bonus HIV meds make you so physically ill towards the
Speaker 1: end that I couldn't even get up to work. Now
Speaker 1: here's the kicker, the part that pisces me off most,
Speaker 1: and the whole reason why I'm emailing you, because this
Speaker 1: happened in the Philadelphia Police District. Everything went through the
Speaker 1: Philly system. This is such an immense back There is
Speaker 1: such an immense backlog of rape kicks in this city
Speaker 1: that not only did I have to wait seven hours
Speaker 1: that day just to get the kit done, but I
Speaker 1: will not know the results for another six months at least,
Speaker 1: if not longer half a year at minimum of not
Speaker 1: knowing for sure what truly happened to me. I'm so pissed,
Speaker 1: not only for myself, but for everyone in the city
Speaker 1: who has to deal with this, not being able to
Speaker 1: prosecute their their attackers because the city can't afford to
Speaker 1: test all the rape kits. It's only been two and
Speaker 1: a half months for me and that alone has been agony.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how the women and men who have
Speaker 1: had waited months, year, or in certain cases decades before
Speaker 1: finally having proof in their hands of what was done
Speaker 1: to them. It breaks my heart and rages me and
Speaker 1: kills my hope forever finding out the truth, getting justice,
Speaker 1: and getting my friend out of that situation. Email number two.
Speaker 1: The subject line is replied to last podcast letting partner
Speaker 1: know about sexual assault. I'm writing this email at three
Speaker 1: am after listening to your latest podcast with Wendy, which
Speaker 1: truly made me think about my own sexual assault back
Speaker 1: when I was nineteen. I'm twenty three now, and I
Speaker 1: still have barely spoken to anyone about it. Background partied
Speaker 1: way too hard at a music festival the night before,
Speaker 1: fell asleep in my tent alone, woke up the next
Speaker 1: morning still drunk to go to the restroom. Next thing
Speaker 1: I know, there's a guy who was trying to have
Speaker 1: sex with me. During this whole thing, I remember telling
Speaker 1: him no and then blacking out, waking up again and
Speaker 1: feeling him trying to put himself inside me. He couldn't
Speaker 1: get himself in, which was the only thing that stopped
Speaker 1: him from penetrating me, which I owe my gene a
Speaker 1: little thank you too for not being even slightly wet. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell any of my friends because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to ruin their good time following days.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know who the guy was, so what
Speaker 1: could I do. I also felt like it was my fault,
Speaker 1: since I had gotten so drunk the night before. I
Speaker 1: know now that it wasn't my fault, but I still
Speaker 1: can't bring myself to tell anyone. This email subject line
Speaker 1: and these are just excerpts. Again, these are not the
Speaker 1: holy emails. Uh. Subject is a rape survivor's response to
Speaker 1: the defenseless brock Turner. I am so angry. I am
Speaker 1: so sad after just six months time, that fucking piece
Speaker 1: of ship will be out in public and a danger
Speaker 1: to us all. Again. I could hardly read the whole
Speaker 1: of the victim's letter because the story was too familiar.
Speaker 1: The circumstances of the night I was raped were such
Speaker 1: that I will most likely never know the identity of
Speaker 1: the man who raped me, and it only breaks my
Speaker 1: heart further knowing that even if he had been caught,
Speaker 1: it may not have even have mattered, because he's a
Speaker 1: victim to right. My drink must have been out in
Speaker 1: the open in my hand. I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: don't remember a single thing so that he just tripped,
Speaker 1: poor guy and accidentally dropped a roofie in my drink.
Speaker 1: He must have been so scared when he saw how
Speaker 1: short my dress was. I can't imagine the fear he
Speaker 1: felt when he realized that he had no choice but
Speaker 1: to drag my unconscious body away from anybody that could
Speaker 1: have helped him. He must have been so angry with
Speaker 1: me that I tempted him, and that my limp cold
Speaker 1: hands forced him to enter his penis into my body.
Speaker 1: Poor guy, he must live in fear that this that uh,
Speaker 1: some girl is going to need to be drugged again,
Speaker 1: and that some girl is going to need to wake
Speaker 1: up in the hospital. Email number four flashbacks of my
Speaker 1: rape ruined sex. Last night a few years ago, I
Speaker 1: was raped, date raped. To be exact, I was on
Speaker 1: a date with a friend of a friend and we
Speaker 1: had to go back to his place to grab something.
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, I woke up tied hands and
Speaker 1: angles to his bed and he was raping me in
Speaker 1: every way possible. I had rode with him stupidly to
Speaker 1: his house, so I had no way out and I
Speaker 1: had no idea where I was. He had me stay there,
Speaker 1: I mean, where else would I go all night. The
Speaker 1: next morning he took me back to my car and
Speaker 1: acted like nothing ever happened. I don't remember what happened
Speaker 1: between getting there and him tie me up, and for
Speaker 1: years I've locked the entire staying out of my memory.
Speaker 1: Until last night. I was finally going to see my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: We don't see each other often. I was so looking
Speaker 1: forward to this. A few good orgasms later, he decided
Speaker 1: to go for as play. Now, any other time I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have minded. I mean, who doesn't like a little
Speaker 1: ass play. However, for some reason this time I couldn't
Speaker 1: handle it. He asked me if I liked it, and
Speaker 1: I said I don't know. He said, tell me you
Speaker 1: like it. Side note, I'm a fan of B D
Speaker 1: s M and he was trying to get into it
Speaker 1: for me. I instantly freaked out and responded with I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't and started panicking and crying. He is super sweet,
Speaker 1: so he wrapped me up in his arms and was
Speaker 1: trying to console me while I sobbed uncontrollably, and that's
Speaker 1: when it hit me. All of these years blocking the
Speaker 1: rape out, and bam, it was back in my mind.
Speaker 1: One other thing I remember from the rape was the
Speaker 1: guy whispering in my ear. Remember you wanted this, you
Speaker 1: like this? Tell me you like this. I'm guessing hearing
Speaker 1: my guy say this to me caused the panic and
Speaker 1: the flashbacks. Email number five. The subject line reads, I'm
Speaker 1: ashamed of being raped. I was raped four years ago
Speaker 1: when I was twenty one by someone that I knew,
Speaker 1: not well, but it was not out of the ordinary
Speaker 1: to be hanging out at his apartment for several through
Speaker 1: several days and weeks after. I told myself that it
Speaker 1: was my fault that I had chosen to put myself
Speaker 1: in that position. I had been so drunk, so maybe
Speaker 1: I actually had agreed to it and didn't realize it,
Speaker 1: though I know that's not true. I so vividly remember
Speaker 1: saying no, stop, I don't want to do this over
Speaker 1: and over. Or maybe I really did want it, but
Speaker 1: it just didn't admit it to myself. I thought of
Speaker 1: every single excuse to make it okay. It took about
Speaker 1: a year to admit to myself that I had been raped.
Speaker 1: I felt like a destroyed human being. I started dating
Speaker 1: my current boyfriend a couple of months ago after the incident.
Speaker 1: It took me years to tell him. I was so
Speaker 1: embarrassed to tell him because I felt like I was
Speaker 1: used goods or that he would think I was weak.
Speaker 1: He was remarkably supportive and understanding and urged me to
Speaker 1: tell other people. I still have not been able to
Speaker 1: tell anyone else because I'm still ashamed. I understand now
Speaker 1: that it was not my fault, but that doesn't make
Speaker 1: it any easier. Email number six. I was raped and
Speaker 1: now I can't orgasm. The first guy I ever had
Speaker 1: sex with was very emotionally and sexually abusive and manipulative.
Speaker 1: I was seventeen and it was the summer before college.
Speaker 1: My best friend sent me a giant rap sheet of
Speaker 1: everything he's done, and we had an open conversation about
Speaker 1: what was going on. I was suddenly hit with this
Speaker 1: giant epiphany that the last two or three months of
Speaker 1: my life were ship. So I decided to get completely
Speaker 1: and utterly wasted that night. I'm Italian and can really
Speaker 1: handle my liquor, but I don't remember much of what happened.
Speaker 1: I probably had like ten to thirteen drinks, and it
Speaker 1: was also my first time smoking pot, given to me
Speaker 1: by my best friend's older brother's college roommate. He and
Speaker 1: I started hooking up at the house party and we
Speaker 1: went to his tent outside to continue. I told him
Speaker 1: clearly that I didn't want to have sex because I
Speaker 1: was on my period and I had just vented to
Speaker 1: him about this shitty guy I had been with. He
Speaker 1: said that's fine, and I told him multiple times throughout
Speaker 1: the night. But when we got kicked out of his
Speaker 1: tent and went to my tent, things changed. I started
Speaker 1: giving him a blow job, and then he pushed me off,
Speaker 1: pulled a condom out of his wallet, grabbed my head
Speaker 1: and shoved his dick in my mouth to make him harder,
Speaker 1: put the condom on, and then started sucking me from behind.
Speaker 1: The only thing going on through through my mind was
Speaker 1: is he raping me right now? I don't know why
Speaker 1: I didn't stop it from happening. I was really fucked
Speaker 1: up and just laying there my head pushed on the
Speaker 1: ground as he raped me. Our hookup was concerned tool
Speaker 1: up to a point, but then he did not have
Speaker 1: my permission to have sex. With me. Also, I could
Speaker 1: not legally give consent under the influence. I've had tipsy
Speaker 1: semi drunk suns sex since then, but I was way
Speaker 1: cross faded that night. I did not remember everything that
Speaker 1: had happened. I mostly remember crying in my friend's arms
Speaker 1: after he left, until quite recently when it came out
Speaker 1: in therapy and after some conversations with really good friends.
Speaker 1: Maybe I blocked it out of my memory or didn't
Speaker 1: even consider it rape to protect myself. I also think
Speaker 1: it's because I wanted to feel like I had moved
Speaker 1: on from that first guy who had sucked me over
Speaker 1: reclaiming the narrative by replacing it with one that wasn't true.
Speaker 1: Whatever the case, it's been something I've been dealing with
Speaker 1: and it has been affecting my sex life. Email seventh
Speaker 1: subject line, I like this guy, but I think he
Speaker 1: might have raped me. The first guy I match with
Speaker 1: on Tender I hit it off with really quickly. He's smart, sexy, funny,
Speaker 1: and we had a lot of shared interests. We hung
Speaker 1: out a day later, and even though he said he
Speaker 1: didn't expect sex, he initiated it and we ended up sucking.
Speaker 1: The first two times we hung out we had not
Speaker 1: we had hot, passionate sex, but the next few times
Speaker 1: it had just become monotonous. He basically just wanted to
Speaker 1: jackhammer me every time I saw him, and I was
Speaker 1: starting to develop feelings for him. I was feeling a
Speaker 1: little concerned because I hadn't been able to really get
Speaker 1: aroused the last two times we had sex, and I
Speaker 1: thought that there was something wrong with me. But this morning,
Speaker 1: when he came over to hang out Slash, Snuggle, Slash,
Speaker 1: wash TV and quotes, he immediately crawled on top of
Speaker 1: me and started forcefully kissing me. I had come to
Speaker 1: terms with the fact that he was a very heteronormative,
Speaker 1: masculine man, and I have kind of gotten used to it,
Speaker 1: but it was not turning me on, and I honestly
Speaker 1: just wanted to hang out with them. I told him
Speaker 1: no and not right now several times, and he kept
Speaker 1: evading my request. He started touching my pussy and when
Speaker 1: I tried to move his hand, at one point he
Speaker 1: grabbed my hands above my head and held them well.
Speaker 1: He continued to touch me. He said that I am
Speaker 1: a nice person quote and wouldn't let him get turned
Speaker 1: on and not help him out. Now, at some point,
Speaker 1: I just let it happen. He took off my pants
Speaker 1: even though I said no, He forcibly touched me and
Speaker 1: pressed his much bigger body on top of mine. Even
Speaker 1: though I said no. He and he ended up having
Speaker 1: sex with me, even though I said I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: By enough definition, this sounds like rape to me. I
Speaker 1: like to think I'm knowledgeable about issues like this, but
Speaker 1: for some reason, I keep finding myself making excuses for
Speaker 1: him or doubting myself, such as, is it rape if
Speaker 1: I didn't push him off me or scream but he's
Speaker 1: a good guy. What if he doesn't realize that he
Speaker 1: was raping me? Or I kissed him back, I spread
Speaker 1: my legs for him, etcetera. So is it still rape?
Speaker 1: I don't want to cry rape. And no, he didn't
Speaker 1: hurt me. But I trusted this person as my friend
Speaker 1: and was starting to develop feelings for him, And nowhere
Speaker 1: in this situation did I say yes. In fact, I
Speaker 1: said no multiple times, and he still found a way
Speaker 1: to mentally and physically coerce me into sex even though
Speaker 1: I didn't want to and I didn't enjoy it. Email
Speaker 1: Number eight rape stories, Thank you. I was raped by
Speaker 1: a friend as a freshman in college in two thousand three,
Speaker 1: after a party, I went to his room, but with
Speaker 1: the intention of just making out. I was pretty inexperienced
Speaker 1: and didn't have casual sex at that point. He attempted
Speaker 1: to escalate things beyond where I was comfortable, and I
Speaker 1: repeatedly tried to push him off and said no over
Speaker 1: and over, but he proceeded to rape me. I was
Speaker 1: really embarrassed and felt like I was at fault because
Speaker 1: I willingly went to his room. I was also afraid
Speaker 1: of his fraternity brothers bullying me and it affecting the
Speaker 1: rest of my college career, so I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: do anything, But after my friends pushed I went to
Speaker 1: the hospital for a rape kit and filed the police
Speaker 1: report the next day. The cop who quote investigated the
Speaker 1: incident note the quotations actually investigated me and my character
Speaker 1: for over a week before ever contacting my rapist. He
Speaker 1: went through my computer and printed out our aim conversations
Speaker 1: Yes Aim, it was two thousand three, and questioned my
Speaker 1: friends and door mates about what type of girl I was.
Speaker 1: Once he finally contacted my rapist, he said it was
Speaker 1: consensual and the cop encouraged me to drop the charges
Speaker 1: because it would be hard to prove anything since I
Speaker 1: was flirtatious with him, I'd been drinking and I willingly
Speaker 1: went to his room. I felt like I was on trial,
Speaker 1: like I'd done something wrong, and like I had to
Speaker 1: keep quiet so my reputation wasn't destroyed. We don't have
Speaker 1: time to read all of the rest of the emails,
Speaker 1: but here are a few other subject lines from emails
Speaker 1: that we've gotten pretty recently. One I told my I
Speaker 1: finally told my husband I was raped. My best friend
Speaker 1: raped me. Now I'm sabotaging my happiness. A letter to
Speaker 1: my rapist. My rape has been less tragic because of you.
Speaker 1: Was I raped? Was it my fault? Forgotten rape? Was
Speaker 1: this rape? How rape has affected my sexual identity? How
Speaker 1: Karinn and Christina helped Casey recover from rape. My roommates rapists.
Speaker 1: I was raped, but I really love sex. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wish that was a comedy because it's we just banged
Speaker 1: out the word rape so many times that it almost
Speaker 1: felt like some sort of comedic device, but unfortunately it wasn't.
Speaker 1: That was real. Yeah, and we have UM seven. I
Speaker 1: think it was unique emails with the word rape in
Speaker 1: them from people, right, So that's so that's telling us
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And the fact that it becomes such
Speaker 1: a huge story when there is a rape is kind
Speaker 1: of insane because it seems to be happening so frequently,
Speaker 1: but for one reason or another, people don't talk about
Speaker 1: it because they're not sure if it happened, was it
Speaker 1: their fault? Did I do something wrong? We need to
Speaker 1: be super open about it. Women, you need to come forward.
Speaker 1: You need to talk. If you think something happens, to
Speaker 1: say something, tell a friend. You don't have to, you
Speaker 1: don't have to post it on Instagram, but you have to.
Speaker 1: You have to say something, not only for yourself, but
Speaker 1: but for but other men and women. Yes, yeah, men
Speaker 1: and women of course. And if you go on rain
Speaker 1: dot org are ai n n U dot org. It's
Speaker 1: a website um for. It has um phone numbers you
Speaker 1: can call in statistics that have to do with sexual assault,
Speaker 1: And the most alarming statistic that I read it's fourteen
Speaker 1: four nine of women in the United States get raped
Speaker 1: every year about three percent of men. Uh. All of
Speaker 1: those things are horrible, but the worst one was of
Speaker 1: rapists have never seen a day in jail because your
Speaker 1: case has to go to trial, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the jury has to have evidence and they have to
Speaker 1: convict you, and then the judge has to sentence you. Like,
Speaker 1: there's so many obstacles for a rapistic at jail, and
Speaker 1: yet look at all these people who are in jail
Speaker 1: for fucking weed. They fucking smoked a joint on the
Speaker 1: fucking corner and they're in jail for years. What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Like you don't. It's like, it's like, there's no we
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about sexual assault or or women's bodies.
Speaker 1: Men's bodies too. We we don't believe you. We we
Speaker 1: want to protect the rapists. I don't get it. What
Speaker 1: I don't get it because it's a lot there, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of it's a lot if this is
Speaker 1: a crime, that unless for getting a rape kit is
Speaker 1: based on a lot of this person's word versus another
Speaker 1: person's word. And I think just kind of historically, I mean,
Speaker 1: a man who is raped is kind of made fun of,
Speaker 1: and then a woman who is raped, we just trust
Speaker 1: a man's word over a woman's because we like to
Speaker 1: point a finger at the woman was drinking too much,
Speaker 1: the woman was out she was acting flirtatious, she was
Speaker 1: wearing a short skirt. What sent or she lives in existed?
Speaker 1: Like what are we been talking about? And on the
Speaker 1: flip side, I know, it's like a kind of a
Speaker 1: it's like a weird time to be a dude, to
Speaker 1: be a sexual person. I can't imagine being a young
Speaker 1: man coming into my sexuality at this time. It's very strange.
Speaker 1: I know, I have a lot of guy friends who
Speaker 1: constantly are like on the fucking defense or just constantly
Speaker 1: scared of being accused of sexual assaults or rape. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think it's just like you just number one,
Speaker 1: if there's any instance where you're you're you're too fucked
Speaker 1: up to make a decision, make the decision to go
Speaker 1: home to not it's not going to be good sex anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I know you're not going to remember it,
Speaker 1: I assure you. Um, so that's that. And then no
Speaker 1: means no, No means no, we mean and we were
Speaker 1: talking about this later, but you know the difference between
Speaker 1: a no that is serious and a note of this
Speaker 1: flirtation and you know what A couple of people emails
Speaker 1: before and this has been a topic in the comedy
Speaker 1: community about can you make jokes about rape? How fucking
Speaker 1: ridiculous was it that we just read all those emails?
Speaker 1: There was only chunks and then we were at subject
Speaker 1: line emails and that was maybe an eighth of all
Speaker 1: the emails. Are you fucking kidding me? How am I
Speaker 1: not going to joke about this? This is fucking crazy? Well,
Speaker 1: and I can't not joke about it. It's it's horrible. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also like we need to talk about it in
Speaker 1: some way. So if the way that we can talk
Speaker 1: about something that we feel uncomfortable about is through a joke,
Speaker 1: by all means, I think we just need. People feel
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable with talking about even a rape that happened
Speaker 1: to them, where they were the victim, the survivor whatever.
Speaker 1: We just want to do, you were raped, and and
Speaker 1: so people's people just like clench up when they hear
Speaker 1: the word. They don't want to hear the word rate
Speaker 1: because people want to pretend that it's not a thing
Speaker 1: that's happening, that it hasn't happened to them, that it
Speaker 1: hasn't happened to someone they know, that it hasn't happened
Speaker 1: to a sister or a daughter, a brother, a cousin,
Speaker 1: it's happened to someone you know, you know someone who
Speaker 1: has raped. Maybe you were raped. End of story, start
Speaker 1: sucking talking about it? Um anything else like, no, No,
Speaker 1: I think we got it all out all right, UM,
Speaker 1: get it out a little more with our guests. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this week's guest is a wonderful comedian friend of
Speaker 1: both Christina and Mind for many years, and we wanted
Speaker 1: to have her own for a long time. She has
Speaker 1: a lot of very unique sexual experiences, both positive end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got a great a great book of them. Yeah. Real,
Speaker 1: it's real sex for it over here. Yeah. And she
Speaker 1: also hosts the wonderful Naked Show at the Creek in
Speaker 1: the Cave in Long Island City, which you should check
Speaker 1: out one time or many times. Ladies and gentlemen, please
Speaker 1: give it up for our guest, Alice sing Clemp. Last night,
Speaker 1: I was happy for just a little while. It turns out,
Speaker 1: but it was only a dree. The short felt good
Speaker 1: to smile. I drept I had a girl. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel so old. My heart was warm. She melted the
Speaker 1: cool and she said, you would. I shot broken hearts.
Speaker 1: We can make old if we can find the parts.
Speaker 1: Hi girl, I feel like I didn't get the memo
Speaker 1: that I had to wear a hat so brave, and
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like I've been wearing this hat
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours of almost so out of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never brave. I've never bought a hat before. You're
Speaker 1: so brave. Well, this kind of hat like a like
Speaker 1: a cap, like a like a like a ball ball cap,
Speaker 1: truck her hat like a flat brim. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: kept because it's a Beyonce hat. So I kept the
Speaker 1: sticker on because that's what you do. Right, well again,
Speaker 1: and then when the sticker gets messed up, you have
Speaker 1: you have in time for a new hat, right, because
Speaker 1: you can't have a stick discoloration. Yeah, it's is it
Speaker 1: snap back or flat or fitted? Snap? Wow? You can
Speaker 1: put your This is really great. I know this is great, right,
Speaker 1: this is great in a result, such a wonderful stir.
Speaker 1: I like you know that Christina has no voice, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing from screaming at well yeah, yeah, unless you got
Speaker 1: a left to Beyonce thing. No. I was screaming at
Speaker 1: the top of my fucking lungs for six hours probably. Wow, jeezus,
Speaker 1: the seats were really good, so Alison, they said about me,
Speaker 1: this is about you, shew Is. But everything is well.
Speaker 1: We were because we were talking thing about rape and
Speaker 1: you know, all that going on and how it happens
Speaker 1: a lot, and how that's fucking stupid and there's a problem.
Speaker 1: And then you were like, oh, yeah, I was almost raped.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that story. And I'm like, quaw law
Speaker 1: and that was usual those How old were you tell
Speaker 1: us the story? Let's start out with this nice almost
Speaker 1: raped shore. This is a great place to start. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's almost where I started my sexual experiences. I might
Speaker 1: as well. Um, I was thirteen, so I was ripe.
Speaker 1: And uh it was after like our eighth grade graduation
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was like you graduated from eighth grade.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't, but like you know, in air quotes,
Speaker 1: middle school, like a middle school graduation. It was after
Speaker 1: the last day of eighth grade. And this girl from
Speaker 1: who was like she was like, it's like probably mean,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember her name and it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: but like she was like that you have nerdy, kind
Speaker 1: of trying too hard girl. Yeah, Like so she like
Speaker 1: really wanted was that a little bit? Yeah? She was,
Speaker 1: I'm sure whatever it doesn't matter. She's probably fine. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't need to slander a girl's name. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: But she was just kind of like not cool, you
Speaker 1: know what you mean? No, No No, she was just like
Speaker 1: a okay. But so she invited me and a few
Speaker 1: other girls over her place for like sleepover out of
Speaker 1: middle school, and her dad was out of town. So
Speaker 1: we started drinking. Of course, it was like rum and
Speaker 1: strawberry margarita mix every eighth graders, Like what can we do?
Speaker 1: Any whatever is here, we'll drink it and uh. And
Speaker 1: then her older brother who was in high school was
Speaker 1: also there, and like they had a pool, so we're
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff, like you know, getting a little frisky,
Speaker 1: I guess in the pool and like touched his dick
Speaker 1: and touched his dick and I had never seen a
Speaker 1: dick before, and that was crazy. And there was like
Speaker 1: a lot of truth or dare happening? Was this dick
Speaker 1: exposed or was it through swim trunk? He was through
Speaker 1: swim trunks like under the water. It was her older
Speaker 1: brother though he was like sixteen in high school. And
Speaker 1: then all the truth or dair ship you know, like
Speaker 1: go straight down the street. Sorry about these horns, you guys.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that. Ever, Yeah, I just paparazzi. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah. Anyway, so we were drunk and then I
Speaker 1: ended up in his room and we were like making out,
Speaker 1: and I was on my period at the time, and
Speaker 1: I started feeling him like pulling on my tampon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I don't want to have sex,
Speaker 1: like and uh, and then he pulled it out anyway,
Speaker 1: and I was just like two incompas. I had no
Speaker 1: idea what was going on really, and I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to stop it. And then like at the crucial moment,
Speaker 1: my friend, not the girl whose house it was, but
Speaker 1: like another friend who was there, opened the door. So
Speaker 1: I was going on. I was like, what the funk?
Speaker 1: And then she grabbed me and pulled me in another room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then here's the best part. I uh because I
Speaker 1: passed out like the guest room or something, and because
Speaker 1: my tampon had been taken out, I just bled all
Speaker 1: over their bed. And then the girl, like the host,
Speaker 1: got really mad at me for like bleeting on her.
Speaker 1: Oh we'll start your brother tried to rape me. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell her that, of course. I was just like
Speaker 1: I'm just never gonna talk to this girl. Ken. That's
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Man, did the guy say anything like how
Speaker 1: was he drunk? Was he? I mean, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot of conversation going on. Man. The first time I
Speaker 1: ever got drunk, I was in tenth grade, and it
Speaker 1: was the first time I ever made out on top
Speaker 1: of a boy, like adult making out, like touching each other,
Speaker 1: but over each other's clothes. And I've urged so many
Speaker 1: fucking horror stories from this type of like this exact
Speaker 1: moment of when year young and you first have alcohol
Speaker 1: at somebody's party. I'm like, thank god that guy was
Speaker 1: a nice dude and didn't try and rape me, because
Speaker 1: I don't think I was just so like, is this
Speaker 1: happening on my I mean I wanted it to happen,
Speaker 1: and there was no like, there's nothing that happened that
Speaker 1: I didn't want to but because it was just over
Speaker 1: the clothes, touching, but damn, that happens a lot. But
Speaker 1: I also think that it's like, Okay, so you're thirteen
Speaker 1: and he's sixteen, and like not that, but what he
Speaker 1: was doing, by any means, was like defendable. But it's
Speaker 1: also like it's a small distance between your ages. Like
Speaker 1: I think it's something that's like no one knows how
Speaker 1: to handle their sexuality because it's not talked about, and
Speaker 1: like sometimes I think that women are presented as objects
Speaker 1: that can kind of just be taken or like almost
Speaker 1: kind of like you have to be like be the
Speaker 1: aggress or to get a woman, yeah, or like the
Speaker 1: guy knows what you want, Like I know how to
Speaker 1: make your orgasm. I know how. And then the reality
Speaker 1: guys that young don't know shiph it. Yeah, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that this guy is probably not a predator
Speaker 1: who was like a serial rapist now, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was just confusion and I don't understand what any
Speaker 1: of this means as well on his part. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not like trying to find him or anything, but
Speaker 1: like I mean it makes man seeking woman who I
Speaker 1: bled on your carpeting, on your bed what, but not sexually.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's like I think it's like the
Speaker 1: most important thing that young especially young men needs, like
Speaker 1: realizes that like when a girl says no, no matter
Speaker 1: what state she is in as far as alcohol or
Speaker 1: drugs are concerned, like it has to be taken as
Speaker 1: like a final no like, and I'm sorry. You know
Speaker 1: the difference between no and no like when you're start
Speaker 1: you know the fucking yeah. I love it, and stop it.
Speaker 1: I love when people try to pretend though that they
Speaker 1: fucking don't know the difference. That irritates me to no end.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know the difference, then you're not
Speaker 1: qualified to you're not familiar with tones, or you don't
Speaker 1: speak English. There's not a problems with death rapists. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure it's a great she didn't he didn't hear
Speaker 1: the no. I'm sure someone is going to be reading
Speaker 1: this podcast in a Brail translation and offended some sort
Speaker 1: of a phone call. Death rapists and blind rapists. You know,
Speaker 1: these are the blind rapists. You probably couldn't find the whole.
Speaker 1: Oh you could trick the more you could, just putting
Speaker 1: something out in my meet, like a hollowed out orange
Speaker 1: or something, or an apple or something was soft and open.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, a fleshlight mike away of that. Honey, doney, honey,
Speaker 1: don't all well, I I was We wanted to interview
Speaker 1: you for a while. I'm excited to interview you because
Speaker 1: you're you're a stand up comedian, like we will because
Speaker 1: you're a huge You're a big old horn. Damn no.
Speaker 1: But you always post about on Facebook because the comedians
Speaker 1: use their social media however they want a lot of
Speaker 1: times it's to be funny. And I noticed that you
Speaker 1: with me, you post a lot of what what a
Speaker 1: douchebag dude would say as angry woman posts and sometimes
Speaker 1: you get shipped for him and it and it always
Speaker 1: boggles my mind because I'm like, but that's what you experience,
Speaker 1: Like you're not lying about all this ship, but you
Speaker 1: talk about like cat getting cat called and getting like
Speaker 1: what makes you want to talk about that ship on
Speaker 1: your on your Facebook page? Because we're all friends with
Speaker 1: other comics, we know the stupid comments are coming. But
Speaker 1: I like that you still continue to do it because
Speaker 1: it's something that fucking happens to you. Yeah. Do you
Speaker 1: think you get catcol more than other people? I don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I get certainly the most colorful cat
Speaker 1: calls of most of the people that I know. UM,
Speaker 1: And I feel like, I mean, part of it is
Speaker 1: where I let some gems. Okay, so setting exterior harlem
Speaker 1: for I am on a Friday funny Home, Hey, you
Speaker 1: suck my dick? That really? Yeah? Wait, it gets better
Speaker 1: And I was like, come pook yourself or something to
Speaker 1: that effect, and then he goes, uh, suck my dick, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Cat calls in Harlem are very funny. I will stand
Speaker 1: by that they're very funny. And I have never in
Speaker 1: my life stucked the dick of a man who called
Speaker 1: me man. I was like, I'm want friend to that.
Speaker 1: You called her male? Wait? Did you wait? Did you
Speaker 1: move back to Harlem? No? That was just when I
Speaker 1: was in herd okay, because I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, no, Harlem cat calls, that's the thing. Like,
Speaker 1: they don't even make me mad a lot of the
Speaker 1: time because they are so fucking funny. Like my favorite
Speaker 1: cat call that I've ever gotten in Harlem was you
Speaker 1: have a bit, you have a big nose. You're still hot. Though.
Speaker 1: One time a young boy in Harlem cat called me.
Speaker 1: But he was like probably eight years old, and I
Speaker 1: did a bit about it for a while and he's like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, miss, you had nice titties though, and then
Speaker 1: he but he looked down the entire time. I know
Speaker 1: he was talking to me, and then he just kept
Speaker 1: walking and like I was like, you're you're eight, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're at most eight twelve year olds in my building
Speaker 1: just hang out on the staircase and hit on me.
Speaker 1: And I go, you know, I could be your mother,
Speaker 1: like not cute, like I could. I had my period
Speaker 1: when you were born, Like I could have actually birthed you.
Speaker 1: Just talking about that. Yeah, I'm like, I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could be your mom. Damn miss?
Speaker 1: What are other ones you get? One time a guy
Speaker 1: like came up like from behind me and tap me
Speaker 1: on the arm, which freaking out, and then he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's like hi, my name is Kenny. And I was
Speaker 1: like nope, and then and then I kept walking. But
Speaker 1: then I was like I'm so curious though, so I
Speaker 1: took up my headphone one headphone to signal like go on,
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, yeah, sorry, excuse me. I
Speaker 1: have a foot fetish and I was wondering if you
Speaker 1: might want to come back to my apartment and let
Speaker 1: me massage your feet. And I was also what baffled
Speaker 1: me about that was I was wearing like big sneakers,
Speaker 1: like I could have had anything under the hair. Wait,
Speaker 1: were you wearing sneakers bigger than like plound trees. I
Speaker 1: was just wearing like like nikes, like not like wearing trees,
Speaker 1: but like they were like my hood sneakers. And I
Speaker 1: could have had all of my toes cut off, Like
Speaker 1: what wouldn't that be the best irony of them all?
Speaker 1: Like if you did have toes cut off then? And
Speaker 1: he said yes to that. Yeah, I mean if I
Speaker 1: had all my toes cut off, I would have said
Speaker 1: it just to funk him up. Um no, but I was.
Speaker 1: Then I lectured him about why you can't and should
Speaker 1: not go up to women at three am and tap
Speaker 1: them on the shoulder from behind them. How did you
Speaker 1: respond to said lecture? He was very beta. I mean
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm sorry, you know it was it
Speaker 1: was a very positive experience for me. But then I've
Speaker 1: had like I've had guys following me, which is like fun,
Speaker 1: and then like, uh, one time I had a guy
Speaker 1: followed me for the entire duration of a cigarette in
Speaker 1: Bushwick and he just like would not stop, would not stop,
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, new strategy. I just won't respond.
Speaker 1: And what was he talking to me? He was talking? Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, smoke is bad for you. You know you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. Yeah, and then uh, finally I was
Speaker 1: like that obviously I don't want to talk to you,
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I haven't been talking to you with
Speaker 1: this entire city block. And then he lost his mind.
Speaker 1: He got really mad and he started calling down to
Speaker 1: his friend down the street and was like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know this fucking bitch and got like real and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, shoot, now I'm surrounded up states. But
Speaker 1: I was like, but like, because pants are a second
Speaker 1: really low and I was like, okay, there's no gun
Speaker 1: in the waistbands, so we're probably not gonna diet today.
Speaker 1: What if it was in his sock? Maybe I didn't
Speaker 1: think about that. Uh. And then like one point, I
Speaker 1: was like why. I was like, why are you doing
Speaker 1: this to me? Like why are you saying this ship
Speaker 1: to me? And he was like, because you look like
Speaker 1: a dirty bitch. You look like a dirty bitch. It
Speaker 1: takes it in the s Okay, So to answer your
Speaker 1: question as to why apparently I look like a dirty bit,
Speaker 1: it takes it in the well, yeah, that's right, figured
Speaker 1: racially ambig us. Uh, And you're shapely, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I just think to backtrack just because I
Speaker 1: like to look ahead to the nonsensical emails will be receiving,
Speaker 1: Like this is you know, we're talking about areas where
Speaker 1: obviously we're talking about people of color who are giving
Speaker 1: these cat calls. But I do want to point out,
Speaker 1: like you know, with that cat calling video, everyone was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, that was so racist because of the
Speaker 1: areas that it was shot in. Well, it was shown
Speaker 1: in those areas because that's where I love. Cat calling
Speaker 1: is super prevalent. Like it's just different things happen in
Speaker 1: different neighborhood I've been cat called in the East Village too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, absolutely, But I mean I think a lot
Speaker 1: of the times it's like it's just it's just different cultures.
Speaker 1: Like it's just people are more vocal in Harlem. But
Speaker 1: also like people in Harlem also like say hello to
Speaker 1: one another and talk to one another, and so just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the cat calling is more brutal there. I also like,
Speaker 1: like my neighbors better, I know them, I talked to them,
Speaker 1: so it's not just like some fucking attack. People are
Speaker 1: just saying words in general more often. But also I
Speaker 1: would always indicate I would always rather somebody like yell
Speaker 1: something at me from across the straight than like the
Speaker 1: growl in your ear as your or the whisper that's
Speaker 1: when they whisper becau. When somebody's yelling me from across
Speaker 1: the state, I'm like, you're not going to come across
Speaker 1: the street and rape me. Like I'm not nervous about this.
Speaker 1: It's like a dog that's but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it's like, but then it's like if somebody's like
Speaker 1: invading my personal space. Anytime anybody vays my personal space, yeah,
Speaker 1: or sneak stuff on you or touches you like never
Speaker 1: touch a touch strangers. It's like you's gonna fall and
Speaker 1: the catcher. Yeah, but then like or get one of
Speaker 1: those couches and it's like push them in her path
Speaker 1: shase Like yeah, I was like what has bed bugs
Speaker 1: on it on the street bucket this moment, I m
Speaker 1: have follow me around with the chaise lounge and catch me.
Speaker 1: But there do you get a lot of people though,
Speaker 1: like like guy friends that you have or something that
Speaker 1: when you when you kind of talk about these experiences online,
Speaker 1: they're like stop complaining or like when we had when
Speaker 1: we interviewed fucking Michael Jay about cat calling. He like
Speaker 1: compared it to him being famous. Obviously that was fucking annoying.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think guys don't get it,
Speaker 1: and it's like, how do you make them get it?
Speaker 1: You don't even the ones that don't cat call don't
Speaker 1: get it. Some of them completely get it because they've
Speaker 1: witnessed it, or they just believe us when we say things.
Speaker 1: It's really nice of them. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have created a very nice echo
Speaker 1: chamber for myself. But I feel like most of the
Speaker 1: guys I know get it because I never shut the
Speaker 1: funk up about it. But when my I have male
Speaker 1: roommates and when they first moved to the city, they
Speaker 1: saw me get cat called in our neighborhood, and like,
Speaker 1: I just saw this wave on their faces, like oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I always like when that happens when I'm with my
Speaker 1: guy friends and someone's a huge asshole to me, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, see, see it happened. It's also worse for
Speaker 1: me because I'm so mouthing and so I'll usually say
Speaker 1: something really cunty back to them and then they get
Speaker 1: really mad at me, and then it escalates. So like,
Speaker 1: I've had a guy tried to spray me with a
Speaker 1: hose while it was raining, so I didn't really understand
Speaker 1: his logic or why he was outside with a hose.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say drugs. But I had a guy, well
Speaker 1: this wasn't really a cat called situation, but a guy
Speaker 1: did throw a bag of dogshit at me once just
Speaker 1: because he thought you were a piece of um. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: I had been cat called. I was dog walking at
Speaker 1: the time, and I had been cat called on that
Speaker 1: block by a different guy, like on my way to
Speaker 1: pick up this dog. And then when I came back
Speaker 1: with the dog, it was it was like a really
Speaker 1: big mastiff type dogs. I was like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is I feel very safe with that dog and U
Speaker 1: and I walked by these guys and I don't know,
Speaker 1: call me racist, but I didn't associate that it was
Speaker 1: different guys because I also just didn't really look at
Speaker 1: the guy. You guys have like you're standing in front
Speaker 1: of a stoop on the same block, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: looking at your face and uh anyway, so then this
Speaker 1: guy was like saying said to me and then I
Speaker 1: like really lashed out of him cause I thought it
Speaker 1: was the same guy. Uh, and then I man, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I like threw I kind of like taunted
Speaker 1: him with some back of dogship, but like I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything with it. And then I just like went
Speaker 1: to the nearest trash can and throw it away, which
Speaker 1: apparently was his trash can. And then he took the
Speaker 1: bag of dog shit out of the trash can and
Speaker 1: threw it at me. Get it. Yeah, And you know, like,
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, maybe don't throw dogsh to people, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not nice, but it's not the worst thing that's
Speaker 1: ever happened to me. Is didn't someone also throw cot
Speaker 1: coffee at you? You had a lot of things thrown
Speaker 1: at people? Why? People? That was Well, this one's harder
Speaker 1: because I was pretty drunk um but I was coming
Speaker 1: home from a night of drinking and I was getting
Speaker 1: off the train and this guy that should be the
Speaker 1: name of your autobiography coming home from a Negro came
Speaker 1: and then I'm not sure what happened at the end.
Speaker 1: It's gay for kids. It's a short book. It's a
Speaker 1: blurry picture of us. It's actually really fun. All right, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is mine, Now, nobody else can do that. Time
Speaker 1: stamp at the time. Uh No, he just like he
Speaker 1: said something to hit on me and I said something
Speaker 1: bitchy back to him, and then he poured coffee. I
Speaker 1: mean it was not free. It was like five in
Speaker 1: the mornings, like there were people going to work, um
Speaker 1: and stuff. I was not. And then it was not
Speaker 1: fresh hot coffee, so it was like it was like warm.
Speaker 1: So it's like he didn't just poured it. He didn't
Speaker 1: get it from I don't have to get any like
Speaker 1: burn cream or the process that the girl goes through
Speaker 1: in the craft. Yeah, exactly. I didn't have to peel
Speaker 1: my skin off. But I was just like, but that
Speaker 1: was like that was like the moment I was also
Speaker 1: getting off the trains. I just got off the trade
Speaker 1: and I was like what the fuck? And then I
Speaker 1: went home and I passed out and then over stuffed
Speaker 1: to work the next day because alcohol, and I woke
Speaker 1: up and then it's like drunken stupor, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why does everything smell like? And then it was like
Speaker 1: on my phone and it was in my hair and
Speaker 1: I was already supposed to be at work, so I
Speaker 1: had to just run out the door. And then a
Speaker 1: Greek of coffee on that are you still working at
Speaker 1: that job? I also sure did get fired. But I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting because I think so often men are
Speaker 1: rejected and then answer with this rage and then you
Speaker 1: it's and it's a rage that doesn't fit what happened.
Speaker 1: Like it happens on social media too, like I'll post
Speaker 1: things on Instagram and then and then people will write
Speaker 1: a snassy comment. These are people who know at least
Speaker 1: my personality because they listen to the podcast. Then I
Speaker 1: and then I respond sassy because I don't let things slide.
Speaker 1: And then just your dumb cunt or I can't believe
Speaker 1: your parents ever had you? And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: like how did it? I can't believe everyone hasn't murdered
Speaker 1: you yet? How does it? The other day someone goes,
Speaker 1: you'll get your reward just desserts. I was like, I
Speaker 1: get to go to the treasure chest, Like what's happening?
Speaker 1: Like it's so hilarious to me, but it's it's hilarious,
Speaker 1: like but then when you look at the larger picture,
Speaker 1: like it's a it's a problem. Something just dawned on men,
Speaker 1: because you know how I have a hot I can
Speaker 1: have a hot temper and I can get really mad
Speaker 1: and I think, though I think it's a sexy so
Speaker 1: does Alison. But it's the clemper Temper. It has the name.
Speaker 1: You should brand that and also make that your album
Speaker 1: cover when I get mad, when my temper gets set off.
Speaker 1: It's actually been pretty good lately. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but you're more relaxed lifestyle, probably because you don't have
Speaker 1: to job, probably taking a better care of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes a hand in hand, that's true. But what
Speaker 1: I noticed is when I do get set off when
Speaker 1: something happens, or when someone reacts me the way that
Speaker 1: I predict they're going to react to me, that makes
Speaker 1: me more angry. It's but it's when that the predicted
Speaker 1: action is shitty. So like when I don't know, I
Speaker 1: can't think of a good example right now, but when
Speaker 1: if I'm talking to ship head online or or in person,
Speaker 1: and then I respond to them and I'm gonna and
Speaker 1: I think to myself, they're gonna respond back with something
Speaker 1: really fucking sexist or something, and then they do exactly
Speaker 1: what I think they're gonna do. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but that makes it worse. And that's why I might
Speaker 1: temper ignites so much with that whole rejection that you're
Speaker 1: like people, Um, you're responding to people on Instagram, it's
Speaker 1: like they they know you, they know you're not gonna
Speaker 1: let that slide. They know you're gonna say something back,
Speaker 1: and when you do, it's predicted. It was already predicted
Speaker 1: in their head. And I feel like that's what makes
Speaker 1: them blow up. I don't know what the psychological thing
Speaker 1: is behind anything. They also do it on purpose because
Speaker 1: they like to get a rhyme. People like to push button. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well exactly, and they want the opportunity to explode. And
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for an opportunity to explode and
Speaker 1: then for sure, and I think, sorry, I think I
Speaker 1: just think the answer to that in a little bit
Speaker 1: is because so when people respond negatively the way that
Speaker 1: you predict their going to, so you're they're not only
Speaker 1: you're not only like getting mad, but you're also getting
Speaker 1: disappointed because you're disappointed that the bad thing that happened
Speaker 1: happened and the person didn't kind of shine in a
Speaker 1: way that you wouldn't expect them to. I think it's
Speaker 1: a mixture of that. For me, the the emotion that
Speaker 1: I handle. The worst is disappointment, So I can I
Speaker 1: can understand that in a way. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: know I should just let some things go, but I
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't want to really even have to,
Speaker 1: you really don't have to. And also anybody getting criticized
Speaker 1: for not letting things go, I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: all know people in our lives that like don't let
Speaker 1: anything go. But it's that's an extreme version. I feel
Speaker 1: like women especially shouldn't like get so much ship for
Speaker 1: not for not letting things slide. But it's like somebody
Speaker 1: just fucking called me cunt and said I should die.
Speaker 1: Like that's just something I'm gonna go now. But it's like, well, also,
Speaker 1: I think it's very upsetting when you see people ascribing
Speaker 1: to a negative stereotype, you know, like like I'm really
Speaker 1: hoping that you're better than this. Yeah, we were talking
Speaker 1: about that, like what what the hell happened? Something happened,
Speaker 1: Like we were watching something a crime was committed and
Speaker 1: it was a young black man And then met Christine
Speaker 1: and I had a discussion how that always. I find
Speaker 1: that so upsetting when I see in a Harlem, when
Speaker 1: I see the cops arresting a young black man. I
Speaker 1: get really fucking upset because that's exactly that's the last
Speaker 1: person I don't want to see anyone getting arrested. But
Speaker 1: the guy who robbed my apartment in Harlem, who lived
Speaker 1: below me, they like caught his fingerprints off the window
Speaker 1: and called me into the station, which is very exciting.
Speaker 1: I was like, my view moment you got to pick
Speaker 1: out people in a line it wasn't it was a lineup.
Speaker 1: It was just him. And so they were like, has
Speaker 1: this person ever had permission to be in your apartment?
Speaker 1: Basically because they knew it was him because they had
Speaker 1: his fingerprints in my apartment, And I was like, but
Speaker 1: then I saw it. When I saw him, I was
Speaker 1: so disappointed because like it was a young black guy.
Speaker 1: But he also like he looked he didn't look like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a stereotypical thug like he was reading
Speaker 1: to Ralph Flora and Polo Shirt glad, look very clean cut,
Speaker 1: looked like a dude that I would hang out with,
Speaker 1: you know. And it was just like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: like come on, yeah, yeah, it sucks, and it sucks
Speaker 1: like every time. Again, that's the same thing with the
Speaker 1: predictability like, please don't let it be what like what's
Speaker 1: he always said? Or the person that it's always targeted
Speaker 1: because there's so many stats like like the drug people
Speaker 1: charged for drug crimes. It's way more black people than
Speaker 1: white people, but it's way more white people that commit
Speaker 1: drug crun like and it's unfair And because I feel
Speaker 1: like that, because us getting extra disappointed means that like
Speaker 1: a certain group of people has to hold themselves to
Speaker 1: higher standards. But then on the flip side, it's like
Speaker 1: kind of to get out of a rut in a way,
Speaker 1: like you do I do. Women why I always say
Speaker 1: I expect more from women than I do from men,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, let's lift ourselves like out of this
Speaker 1: like inequality and I and to do that, I do
Speaker 1: expect more of women. And maybe it's unfair. I don't
Speaker 1: really care because I know we're capable of it. Because
Speaker 1: also you're sort of starting that episode. But to answer
Speaker 1: your earlier question about like why I post this stuff,
Speaker 1: because it's like it's either put it on Facebook or
Speaker 1: it's going into a manifesto. It's just like and I
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm like people both yeah, true, it's
Speaker 1: just a list that I'm compiling, um tag everybody at
Speaker 1: the end and then trying on my murder spray because
Speaker 1: the art enough female mass shooter, I know you do
Speaker 1: this together. Um yeah. So it's just like and also
Speaker 1: it's just like I feel like more people need to
Speaker 1: just see it, like the everyday stuff of like what
Speaker 1: it's actually like, what what a woman's experience can be,
Speaker 1: because that's I mean, it's so frustrating to even say
Speaker 1: one little thing about it, And anytime I've said things
Speaker 1: about it two people, they're like, all right, stop complaining.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh now, I just want to scream everything
Speaker 1: that's ever happened to me in your face. That makes
Speaker 1: me so mad. But it's also like you can't control
Speaker 1: the things that happen. We can only control our reactions
Speaker 1: to them. So it's like true, by the amount of
Speaker 1: time and energy and therapy and soul searching that I've
Speaker 1: done to learn how to cope with cat calling is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Now what what how how does one cope with cat calling?
Speaker 1: Because it really upsets me? What are your therapist say specifically?
Speaker 1: I mean, you give me some advice? Therapist doesn't say much.
Speaker 1: But um, the things that I've come to do. Um.
Speaker 1: I uh, well, I have a new method that I
Speaker 1: haven't tried out yet because this season is still early.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh maybe, um, maybe next time
Speaker 1: a guy cat calls me, I can just like go
Speaker 1: and try to convert him to a religion and then
Speaker 1: he won't want to talk to me anymore. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you found Jesus. That's a little time consuming.
Speaker 1: But so it's like if I'm you know, if I
Speaker 1: don't have anywhere to be um. But mostly I just
Speaker 1: ignored it and I try. I just like the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is just trying not to let it ruin my
Speaker 1: day because then it's like, okay, great, now this person,
Speaker 1: like the terrorists have won. If then you go on
Speaker 1: with your day and you're just like carrying this anger
Speaker 1: in this fa station and you walk into work or
Speaker 1: wherever you're going. But but I've just the other day,
Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday, even I was passing a
Speaker 1: construction site because that's where it happens a lot at
Speaker 1: the time for me. Anyway, on thirty four Street, and
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of dudes. They were all there
Speaker 1: were maybe half a block away. They were all seven
Speaker 1: of them were staring at me walking down the street
Speaker 1: and like here it comes. I put all my headphones
Speaker 1: and just blast music and looked down. And then I
Speaker 1: knew they were saying things. I felt they were saying things,
Speaker 1: and that didn't work because it made me more mad.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work, And I tried that. I used to,
Speaker 1: like try walking around the headphones, but I found that
Speaker 1: I was getting more catols with headphones because they think
Speaker 1: they can't hear them, and so they say whatever they want.
Speaker 1: And then I started walking around without headphones on, and
Speaker 1: I noticed a significant decrease because it's a lot harder
Speaker 1: for them and they know that you can hear them.
Speaker 1: Or if you're like look and then like a lot
Speaker 1: of times I just give them a mean look. Or
Speaker 1: like the other day, I was walking out the past
Speaker 1: construction site and a dude did the like, oh, you
Speaker 1: dropped your soda and I didn't even have a soda
Speaker 1: and yeah, and so I was just like uh and
Speaker 1: turned around and I was like listen. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you, but you have to stop
Speaker 1: doing that. Women hate that, yeah what he's saying, And
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I'm sorry. Just like when we're
Speaker 1: those long days, I'm trying to entertain myself and like
Speaker 1: did and I was like, hey, you know what, I
Speaker 1: totally get that. And he's like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends and I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: meet people. I'm like, well, that's a really terrible way
Speaker 1: to meet people. Wow, that that just turned into a
Speaker 1: real therapy a book club. It really did. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know that. I'm like, that's so deceit
Speaker 1: I'm like, you dropped something. Move. I was like, I
Speaker 1: hate that so much. And everybody hates that because it's
Speaker 1: deceitful and it's a lie and it's not a good
Speaker 1: way to see. A lot of New York you do
Speaker 1: drop things and you're like and you have to look
Speaker 1: because you're like, yeah, I dropped. One time, I was
Speaker 1: like late to something and I was running through Harold
Speaker 1: Square and this group of dudes like your drops will
Speaker 1: be drops away, and I was like, OK, what have
Speaker 1: I did? Because I'm running And then I turned and
Speaker 1: I looked and I hadn't and an idiot, You're you're
Speaker 1: just making me later Like I'm running through the city,
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing a worrier clothes, like I'm obviously in
Speaker 1: a rush. Yeah, and then and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't have time to kill you right now, right. And
Speaker 1: also sometimes it's so late or so early. I I've
Speaker 1: I've told people that there's a cut off that I
Speaker 1: don't accept. I don't accept cat calls before ten am
Speaker 1: or after midnight. I said, I don't like I just
Speaker 1: and that confuses them. And so I've actually said I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's too late. I can't accept cut calls right now.
Speaker 1: But I'm not taking cat calls right now right, And
Speaker 1: I again later, I think humor. And then also if
Speaker 1: you if you can, if you can calm yourself down
Speaker 1: enough to just say something like I get it, but
Speaker 1: women don't like that, in like a nice tone, like
Speaker 1: I think it's really helpful because I think some people
Speaker 1: truly do not know. And I've seen women respond positively
Speaker 1: to cat calls, which I'm sorry. Also that disappoints me
Speaker 1: a lot. You got to stop doing that. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that it can't make you feel good secretly in
Speaker 1: your heart, but you really you have to say. And
Speaker 1: there is a difference to capt on a compliment. The
Speaker 1: US speak a group of drugulars who had hang outside
Speaker 1: of my apartment and no, I love to one of
Speaker 1: very complimentary. They were very nice. They were always they
Speaker 1: were never like they would never ever like cat call
Speaker 1: me in a gross way. One time. I remember one
Speaker 1: time I was like walking past them and one of
Speaker 1: them was like, hey, have a beautiful smile, and then
Speaker 1: the other guy was like, she has a beautiful smile.
Speaker 1: That's so sweet, thank you. But it was just really
Speaker 1: and he didn't say it to yeah, and like, but
Speaker 1: he didn't say it in like a creepy way. A
Speaker 1: lot of it is just like the way that they
Speaker 1: say it, like if you're gritting in through your teeth,
Speaker 1: it's probably not cool. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times if you're yelling it, I guess in that case
Speaker 1: it was okay. But I think a lot of times
Speaker 1: like if you have to yell it, don't don't say
Speaker 1: it yeah, yeah anytime. Because I also I feel like
Speaker 1: I would get mad at them because part of me
Speaker 1: I'd be like oh if I because I'm so little
Speaker 1: and like they don't expect this from me, and I'll
Speaker 1: just like scream at that and then it does shock
Speaker 1: them sometimes. But also I think they want to get
Speaker 1: something over on you. Well, men's dicks get hard when
Speaker 1: women get agitated. And I think anyone me so, anyone
Speaker 1: who's ever dated, I mean, my every boyfriend I've ever
Speaker 1: had loves it when I get angry, Like they are like, oh,
Speaker 1: they are like, it's so hot when your anger. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is it because I'm going to cut off your penis?
Speaker 1: I will do it. There's anyone you've dated who will
Speaker 1: do it? It will be me. We When krit and
Speaker 1: I did the show at the Bell House, there was
Speaker 1: a guy there who works at one of the buildings downtown,
Speaker 1: the Financial District, one of the World Trade buildings, and
Speaker 1: he was saying he was he had emailed us, which
Speaker 1: I need to full up and I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: But he was saying he works on a construction site.
Speaker 1: He oversees a lot of construction people and they would
Speaker 1: kind of explain to him why they cat call. It's
Speaker 1: because they work like they work fourteen hour days sometimes
Speaker 1: and all they see is fucking hammers and nails and
Speaker 1: steel beams and concrete, and then when they see a person,
Speaker 1: let alone a woman, walk by, it excites them in
Speaker 1: a way that that their whole day, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it almost brightens up their whole day,
Speaker 1: is the way he made it seem. I'm like, cool,
Speaker 1: Maybe they should get different jobs or take a break
Speaker 1: every now and again. Listen, that's not the only I
Speaker 1: sit alone in an office all day. It's not like
Speaker 1: that's that's painting men as people who can't control themselves
Speaker 1: and are less intelligent people who work jobs on me
Speaker 1: and they don't see people that Like no, I mean
Speaker 1: I get that, but also at the same time, like,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be like that. I used to work.
Speaker 1: I used to bar side in a bikini bar in
Speaker 1: the financial disc Did you wear a bikini? Was it
Speaker 1: Hawaiian Tropic Zone? I don't remember the name of it,
Speaker 1: but I could, I would be able to find it.
Speaker 1: It's like off the Fulton Street. It's really dirvy. I
Speaker 1: mean I worked like the day shift on Monday, you
Speaker 1: got all the lunch guy. It was. It was an
Speaker 1: interesting place. I mean, they were like women there who
Speaker 1: are like years and like to like that. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't want to go there were there were a lot
Speaker 1: of people who have been there, like since pre nine eleven.
Speaker 1: Is like that was kind of interesting book. But since
Speaker 1: the towers was standing, I'm just imagining that coming from
Speaker 1: an old woman in a bikini. I called my right
Speaker 1: sits how I call my love that one never falls.
Speaker 1: I was like tower one, Tower two, Tower eight, tower B.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the guys who come in were like construction dudes because
Speaker 1: they were building the Freedom Tower and stuff, and like
Speaker 1: surprisingly most of them were like pretty chill. You know
Speaker 1: that's great, but isn't that also sad that you made
Speaker 1: a nice construction worker? And then you're kind of shocked
Speaker 1: by how politious because that's how I feel every time
Speaker 1: one they do make mad money, they could die at
Speaker 1: any moost. Maybe answer costs. Reladies, you hear the ex
Speaker 1: tip you walk about that construction zone. That calling is
Speaker 1: only wrong, it's if it's from a poor person. Although
Speaker 1: although my favorite dude, his name is Dean. Apparently he Dean,
Speaker 1: but he like had some accident on the construction site
Speaker 1: and like his foot got crushed totally fucked up. Now
Speaker 1: he does he not get called women anymore because he's
Speaker 1: got one foot. I don't know. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think you ever did, but like that's okay, I have
Speaker 1: a saw him again, you know, because with that job.
Speaker 1: You um you you jot it down. A couple of
Speaker 1: stories for us that I want to go notes the
Speaker 1: one that that I mean, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: a bunch of them with the one that that excites
Speaker 1: me the most, but not exciting the good way. Bit
Speaker 1: your clip? Did someone bite your clip off? Not off,
Speaker 1: we'll bite it. But there is a traumatic incident. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alison was accidentally generally wait, can you check off African
Speaker 1: American on your on your paperwork? Now? That I because
Speaker 1: you're generally mutilated. Yeah, no, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be American women. She lives in America. Now, yeah, everyone again,
Speaker 1: sorry about last night show at gmail dot com. Just
Speaker 1: just put card in the subject line so I can
Speaker 1: delete it the media, It's okay. We joked about female
Speaker 1: general mumulation with Low and Dale, so oh I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I justified things because that's brain does. Honestly.
Speaker 1: I was just proud of him for finding it. Wow. No. No,
Speaker 1: I was like this guy that I saw kind of
Speaker 1: off and on in college and then he was in
Speaker 1: l A And I was still in school, and I
Speaker 1: went on this misguided sex weekend to go visit him.
Speaker 1: And I got there and he was already drunk when
Speaker 1: I showed up, and then he was going down on me.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how it happened, but he bit
Speaker 1: my clip. Maybe he thought that that's what girls like.
Speaker 1: Maybe he did, I don't know, but I've had it.
Speaker 1: I've had almost biting my first time hooking up with
Speaker 1: him either, Like we had fused like a lot, and
Speaker 1: he was really I mean, and he get you out before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was the only thing he was good
Speaker 1: at because his dick was so small. But you know,
Speaker 1: but hey get other skills and it's possible to just
Speaker 1: if you're a guy with a small dick, like, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but you better learn how to give head like that's
Speaker 1: how it is. But oh he could put it and
Speaker 1: you asked and it doesn't hurt as much and you
Speaker 1: will get a better blow job that way. Or yeah,
Speaker 1: a musical instrument or how to tell jokes. Those are
Speaker 1: also helpful things and make a lot of money. But
Speaker 1: I'm not going to come from a joke or money.
Speaker 1: I might come for money if you rub it on
Speaker 1: my clip, heard enough, it's yeah, yeah, um, did your
Speaker 1: clip bleed? No, it's just really, really hurt and then
Speaker 1: put me out of commission for everything. But I could
Speaker 1: but like I could funk because like that's my cleteral stimulation.
Speaker 1: But then like I was on top and we were
Speaker 1: sucking and like I bent throw away and like his
Speaker 1: dick bent. So like now dick, my clip were like
Speaker 1: totally at a commission. And this was night one of
Speaker 1: what was supposed to be a sex weekend, so now
Speaker 1: we're just food weekend. And he was a dick also,
Speaker 1: so he basically was just like, Okay, well I have
Speaker 1: to go to work. So and they didn't give me
Speaker 1: keys his apartment and he was like, well, you can't
Speaker 1: leave because if you leave it that locked out. And
Speaker 1: I was like trapped in his apartment puffle like one
Speaker 1: of R. Kelly's children writing another study. Huh, you're in
Speaker 1: another city, yeah, And I was like I had driven
Speaker 1: out there with a friend who had gone to visit
Speaker 1: her then boyfriend in like a nearby town and when
Speaker 1: she so she drops me off in l A and
Speaker 1: then goes to this other town in California, and then
Speaker 1: when she got to her boyfriends found him cheating on
Speaker 1: her over Yeah, I mean, did you have you written
Speaker 1: that script yet? That sounds like quite the California a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It was was in some all the Girls plus that
Speaker 1: could be a great musical. Actually, you can write it
Speaker 1: with me a woman's end. So I just had to
Speaker 1: wait for to come pick me up. It was and
Speaker 1: you were both pissed. Yeah, we had quite the very
Speaker 1: kill all my car ride. What one of your stories
Speaker 1: that I probably find fascinating is when you responded to
Speaker 1: an ad on Craigslist to be a fluffer, no proud moment.
Speaker 1: I didn't know they still had my mom Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that that's not a real thing. Actually,
Speaker 1: um well, first based on my experience. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I guess it is. But it's like it's
Speaker 1: like just jerk off. Well, I mean, I guess maybe
Speaker 1: guys get harder for I think there's probably just people
Speaker 1: in the circuit that they know they don't put ads
Speaker 1: on Craigslist exactly just what are for? Right, you know?
Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of downtime. Maybe I've
Speaker 1: ever been on a set, there's a go we got
Speaker 1: to change the lights or you know camera, you're just
Speaker 1: like waiting. There's a lot of like hurry up and wait.
Speaker 1: So I guess if you're shooting up horn, which I've
Speaker 1: never done, you know, you gotta keep your dick card.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I guess you could just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: casually jerk it. But like yeah, I was just like
Speaker 1: I was really really poor because I've been fired from
Speaker 1: aforementioned job and it was just like going through a
Speaker 1: really bad time in my life. And so it's like
Speaker 1: when you're like in this super desperate zone and you're
Speaker 1: not thinking like a normal person, and so you're like, oh, yeah, fluffer,
Speaker 1: I could do that. I can just like tune out
Speaker 1: what's going on in front of me and just like
Speaker 1: jerk off a dude. That's fine. You don't fluffers blow dude,
Speaker 1: play blow the jerk whatever. I'm like, I'm just don't
Speaker 1: insert jerk. Another potential autobiography title, um tales from that's
Speaker 1: a very So you were on Craigslist perusing for like
Speaker 1: jaw drops, Yeah, just like I have done that so
Speaker 1: many times when I was in college, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember one time I saw it not business,
Speaker 1: but I've seen like ads where it's like I want
Speaker 1: to go to come like give me and my friends
Speaker 1: shoulder massages while we play poker like a hot chick
Speaker 1: to like bartend while we play poker whatever that ship is.
Speaker 1: And so I was like kind of like stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can exploite myself for money. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think almost everyone in New York who's young, mildly
Speaker 1: attractive has done that. Like I've certainly done that. It's
Speaker 1: like whatever I have to do to not ask my
Speaker 1: parents for money? And yeah, yeah exactly, that's almost did
Speaker 1: a new massage model. I'm going to do this on
Speaker 1: my own. Yeah, nice feet are worth more than I thought.
Speaker 1: I have, Bunny, and I don't think I could. I
Speaker 1: do too, but I don't think anybody cares. As if
Speaker 1: no one cares and the toes are in order, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all. That's an important see I should have see
Speaker 1: Now I wish I had taken Kenny's number down. Good
Speaker 1: call back, thank you. So wait, so you stumble upon
Speaker 1: this ad that says fluffer and you're like there it is.
Speaker 1: I'm like money, shut, let's do this. Uh and so
Speaker 1: like I answered it and like we what did you say?
Speaker 1: I'll do it? Um. I don't remember exactly what I said,
Speaker 1: but you know, I was like, oh, I saw your ad,
Speaker 1: and I'm interested, like whatever did they name a price? Um?
Speaker 1: He did? He made I think it was like something
Speaker 1: like a thousand dollars. Oh that's a pretty good place,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And I was like, this is the ad
Speaker 1: still wive? Probably? Um and so, and then we like
Speaker 1: talked on the phone and he was like, seemed very professional.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I don't know, Like he seemed
Speaker 1: like it seemed you didn't go rape. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know he talked about like, oh, this is what the
Speaker 1: shoots are, like does a lot usually is and like
Speaker 1: all this and that, and I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds fine. I can do that, you know, and
Speaker 1: like it's like you won't be on camera, and I'm
Speaker 1: like perfect because I killed myself. And then like, um,
Speaker 1: and I had a few friends who had like sort
Speaker 1: of done similar types of things before, and they gave
Speaker 1: me like some pointers and it's a lot of like oh,
Speaker 1: just like trust your instincts, you know, um, which is
Speaker 1: terrible advice. My instincts are always wrong a state of mind,
Speaker 1: and then trusting your instincts, there's no instincts and uh,
Speaker 1: well the last time that I was in this situation,
Speaker 1: so he had me, so I had to, like he
Speaker 1: wanted to interview for the job, and because he had
Speaker 1: to make sure that I was up for the job,
Speaker 1: like I can handle it. I got to make sure
Speaker 1: this chick. Got to make sure this chicken get a
Speaker 1: dick hod. You know, it's hard, it's hard to do.
Speaker 1: Did you have to send him a picture before you
Speaker 1: met him? I don't remember. Um, probably I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with yes. But I met him at this hotel in
Speaker 1: the Bronx Nuther possible autobiograph anytime Alison gives away a
Speaker 1: red flag when everybody to take a shot already drink
Speaker 1: Yeah they did have hourly rates. Yeah, take a shot, drink. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, like on iPhones you can share
Speaker 1: your location with somebody, So like, I hope you told someone. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I told. I told multip people where I was. I
Speaker 1: shared my location. So I'm like, this is where I am.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get murdered. I might get right, but
Speaker 1: I won't get murdered. And then, I mean, you could
Speaker 1: have gotten murdered. Murder can happen in the but I
Speaker 1: was like, right now, it's true, I could have had
Speaker 1: a murdered, but I was like, if you don't hear
Speaker 1: from me in an hour, like, well, at least we
Speaker 1: would know there wouldn't be a searchain where to find
Speaker 1: the body. There's better things to do with those tax
Speaker 1: dollars exactly. Um, I did take a picture of him,
Speaker 1: so I have a picture of him. Did you know
Speaker 1: you took a picture? Yeah? And were you like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to take a picture in case you rape me? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm just take a picture. And
Speaker 1: he was like a little weirded out, and he wouldn't
Speaker 1: tell me his last name. Drink take a drink, um
Speaker 1: and then so bad. We go into the room, hotel room,
Speaker 1: the hotel room, and there are visible comb saints like everywhere.
Speaker 1: Take five shots for that. I mean, what color were
Speaker 1: the sheets that you could see the coms? So it
Speaker 1: was like on the carpet, whoa sloppy McGee jerk off
Speaker 1: into the trash can like a goddamn man. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't his com Probably sure he's not the only
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm sure he's not the only purveyor
Speaker 1: of this establishment. And so he still kept going, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, I needed that money? I hear you
Speaker 1: know just like a thousand dollars but I was not
Speaker 1: getting paid for the interview, and um and uh so anyway,
Speaker 1: so you know I had to like stop him and
Speaker 1: jerk them and stuff. But then it was like how
Speaker 1: did he but he proposed this? Um, it was just
Speaker 1: the moment I'm curious about it was. I mean, I
Speaker 1: knew why I was there. Yeah, so it was already
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of like, well, so, I
Speaker 1: mean everyone who's telling me like those porn audition porns
Speaker 1: that I like to watch aren't couch. Yeah, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe those ones aren't real, but it's like real situations
Speaker 1: like that happened. Yeah, he had me take my clothes
Speaker 1: off of your clothes, brought in underwear. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: And then, uh, he did take a picture of me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was when I was a
Speaker 1: nude or when I was on my underwear, but he
Speaker 1: definitely did take a picture. Was there a dick in
Speaker 1: your mouth? It was very much like it cast like,
Speaker 1: you know, you go, okay, okay, polaroid for a model, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but only not like that, like to go on his wall. Right. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's a room in the bronx. I just want to
Speaker 1: take I just want to take the moment to let
Speaker 1: people know that I did go to college on a
Speaker 1: full academic scholarship. You're very smart. It can happen to you,
Speaker 1: so braves don't mean ship yell book smart, not so
Speaker 1: street smart. And anyway, so then I'm like la la
Speaker 1: la la la, like music in my head. That was
Speaker 1: a sucking dicky side effects and uh. And he then
Speaker 1: told me that like sometimes, um, they do expect the
Speaker 1: fluffers to have sex with the guys and I don't know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense at all to do that. Um,
Speaker 1: and no, don't worry. He did not wear a condom. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I accepted that and then so then so then
Speaker 1: I had to fuck him. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this us. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I've already done so much and I've already come this
Speaker 1: far and if I walk out now, then I won't
Speaker 1: get anything and I will have done this from my
Speaker 1: goodness gracious. And then I even applied this like come on, clump,
Speaker 1: you can do this, like just like you know, you're
Speaker 1: not a quitter, like you don't back down from a
Speaker 1: challenge and this fatman's asshole is your new challenge. I
Speaker 1: was going to say, I was like, were you even
Speaker 1: at all attracted to the person he was? He was disgusting,
Speaker 1: really disgusting, and I can I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: I AM defeat him? Or was there any did we
Speaker 1: know that there was any like work that he was
Speaker 1: actually now because this is just a common story that
Speaker 1: this like just a dude could make up. Yeah, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm honestly in retrospect, like, I'm sure it was just
Speaker 1: a did he contact what was the end of it
Speaker 1: look like? Did he how did you any he sucked
Speaker 1: you from behind? Did he put you on the bed? Like? What? What? All?
Speaker 1: That I had to eat his asshole? Who was really gross? Um?
Speaker 1: Oh whoa, Yeah, he like sucked me and that he
Speaker 1: tried he wanted to put it in my asshole and
Speaker 1: I did say no to that. And then he was
Speaker 1: very like bothered when I said no to him fucking
Speaker 1: me raw in the asshole. Um, and he was like
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, okay, and like in our interview
Speaker 1: I had told him that I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: any game Bain type things or anything like that, and
Speaker 1: so then like um, in follow up after the incident,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, well, the only thing we have
Speaker 1: scheduled right now is like game bins, but like I'll
Speaker 1: get back to you in a week or so. And
Speaker 1: then it was just like and then nothing, and then
Speaker 1: I think he even texted him, and like afterwards, like
Speaker 1: I you know, came to the realization of like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is all bullshit and I was totally scammed. UM,
Speaker 1: and then you posted his pictrol over Craigslist and we're like,
Speaker 1: do not if you see this man at an interview,
Speaker 1: absolutely do not respond to him. No, but actually should
Speaker 1: do that. I mean because so many when I was
Speaker 1: going through, um, all the emails that we've received from
Speaker 1: people who were raped a lot of times UM not
Speaker 1: saying that this is but like one of the common
Speaker 1: themes and not even with rape stuff, with anything, like
Speaker 1: women will do things and they're like, why did I
Speaker 1: do Like afterwards, because I don't. Is it pressure? I
Speaker 1: mean I've been coercion, Yeah, I mean it's in this case,
Speaker 1: it was coercion, and like I don't like using the
Speaker 1: word rape in this instance, but it definitely wasn't and
Speaker 1: it was he and he totally and he and here's
Speaker 1: the thing, that I'm like, this happened to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm not a stupid person, and I'm very actively like, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm very outspoken about things about these issues, and I'm
Speaker 1: pretty well versed in it. And it still happened to
Speaker 1: me because in the mental state that I was in
Speaker 1: at the time, and so I was like, if this
Speaker 1: can happen to me, then it can happens at anybody,
Speaker 1: And it does. It happens all the time. And there
Speaker 1: are women who are much dumber than me. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just break it um. There are women who are like,
Speaker 1: you know, dumber than me, or like, don't have as
Speaker 1: many opportunities as I have and must be happening way more.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of other women. Oh yeah. And
Speaker 1: and I think there's this reaction from from men, from
Speaker 1: other men who didn't happen to and and a lot
Speaker 1: from women too. Why did she let that happen to her?
Speaker 1: You don't, bitch, you weren't there, Okay, so shut the
Speaker 1: funk up. Yeah. And then as I've read enough of
Speaker 1: those stories from people like that they did it, and
Speaker 1: they were pissed that they did it after the fact,
Speaker 1: and there's so many reasons why they did it, and
Speaker 1: no one wants to be understanding of that, or yeah,
Speaker 1: and try and understand that. Mind you think you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna know how you're going to react in those
Speaker 1: six stations, and you think you're gonna know how you're
Speaker 1: gonna handle it. Like I've watched every episode of SPU,
Speaker 1: I've read every like rape don't get rape story and
Speaker 1: Cosmo and like all that stuff. Um, but I was
Speaker 1: just like Cosmos resources. I remember when I was like
Speaker 1: sixteen and reading a Cosmo and there's like this story
Speaker 1: about like all these like I was walking home and
Speaker 1: my neighbor raped me, and like I woke up and
Speaker 1: there was a man inside me and like us like
Speaker 1: horror stories, and I was like, cool, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be my life in Cosmo. Cosmo just told me how
Speaker 1: to give a blowjob too. But they always have like
Speaker 1: the real stories. I never read those fairy tales and
Speaker 1: ponies up here. No. Uh but yeah, but then I
Speaker 1: just like I I never I mean I never went
Speaker 1: to the police. I thought about it a lot um,
Speaker 1: but I was just like, did you ever say anything
Speaker 1: to him? Like fuck you? No? I mean I did
Speaker 1: text him at one point and was like something that
Speaker 1: effect and like oh there's no there's no job here,
Speaker 1: like you're a piece of ship. Um. And then so
Speaker 1: for some reason I never heard back, Um weird, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was his first name? I don't remember, but if
Speaker 1: I looked at my phone, I would find it. I
Speaker 1: still have a voicemail on my phone from him that
Speaker 1: I like, I was actually I was going to say
Speaker 1: my voicemails that I wanted to listen to an old
Speaker 1: voicemail from my boyfriend, and then I found that one instead,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is the opposite of what
Speaker 1: I was looking. Oh no, what did the voicemails say? Um?
Speaker 1: It was like logistical ship like whatever. But um yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, like I never I never like reported it
Speaker 1: or did anything. So I was also like, but this
Speaker 1: wasn't like really, you know, how do I even qualify
Speaker 1: classify this? You know, when you guys had Wendy on
Speaker 1: your podcast, it was like or when I listened to
Speaker 1: it was like right after I had gone through that
Speaker 1: and then listening to that, it really helped me kind
Speaker 1: of like come to terms with like how to deal
Speaker 1: with it. Well, it's difficol because I think we'd like
Speaker 1: to talk talk about sex work positively on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and we try to be like be like that's if
Speaker 1: you choose to do sex work, that's great, but it's
Speaker 1: very hard because in so many instances it's an unsafe
Speaker 1: situation for the woman and it's people running it who
Speaker 1: do not have the best intentions. Like if a group
Speaker 1: of people get together and all the side that they
Speaker 1: want to make movies where people have sex and everyone
Speaker 1: is treated safely and fairly and with respect, that's okay,
Speaker 1: But so often and just like young women are promised
Speaker 1: a lot of money, opportunity, a job, a nice dress,
Speaker 1: bottle service, and then you get there and there's nothing there.
Speaker 1: And then we have been instilled with this saying that
Speaker 1: girls for some reason more than guys, Like it's we
Speaker 1: can't let people down, like we have that in us,
Speaker 1: like we don't want to let people down or not
Speaker 1: like live up to what we came to do, because
Speaker 1: women are like constantly like falling short or being told
Speaker 1: that we can't do things, and so it's like a
Speaker 1: huge mind fuck. So I mean, obviously, if there anyone
Speaker 1: listening who wants to get into sex work, like you
Speaker 1: gotta be super careful, and tis is probably not on Craigslist,
Speaker 1: And I think the main thing is if the minute
Speaker 1: you sense one red flag, you need to leave the situation,
Speaker 1: like like that was really really bad and it could
Speaker 1: have been so much work. And that's so frightening because
Speaker 1: it's also like you know, in the moment, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if I say that I don't want to do this
Speaker 1: anymore and I get up and I try to leave,
Speaker 1: does he get violent? And he's a bigger guy. Really,
Speaker 1: he was like a really big guy or something. When
Speaker 1: you sit on me, like when am I gonna do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a deal with the front desk. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he does that. A lot of there's money involved, exactly.
Speaker 1: People are paid off. People do shitty things for money.
Speaker 1: Guys do shitty things with two women. I mean, I
Speaker 1: obviously it's like, I know, I surround myself with so
Speaker 1: many amazing men, and my guy friends are amazing, and
Speaker 1: my boyfriend is just like they're the kind of men
Speaker 1: who would never do anything like that, would never treat
Speaker 1: a woman like that. But there's so many guys out there.
Speaker 1: I was when I was going through those um emails
Speaker 1: about about rape in our inbox, there was this woman
Speaker 1: who had emailed us, and she said that who recommended
Speaker 1: The guy who recommended the podcast to her was a
Speaker 1: guy who listens to the show all the time, is
Speaker 1: addicted to it and was creeping on her in a
Speaker 1: bar and forcefully rubbing his dick against her ass in
Speaker 1: a bar, and she like freaked out and said no,
Speaker 1: And then as a topic to change the conversation, he
Speaker 1: recommended guys we fucked to her. I'm like christ, so
Speaker 1: we do have some ship heads listening. Oh, I mean
Speaker 1: I knew that I could just check my Instagram. Well yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but absolutely well, because I think there's there's different You
Speaker 1: can always listen to something and have like the wrong
Speaker 1: reasons for listening to it, because you can certainly listen
Speaker 1: to the Pocketing just because it's title lating, just because
Speaker 1: you hear young women talking about sex in a very
Speaker 1: graphic nature, which is not really a superred available thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more graphic than a lot of people
Speaker 1: are willing to go. I think sometimes people tune in
Speaker 1: and expect us to be like audio porn, and it's
Speaker 1: certainly not that. No, but you can't find that on tumbler,
Speaker 1: and I love it audio porn. Oh good, for Tumbler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you like audio porn kind of? I like, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't like the like literary porn mean read aloud,
Speaker 1: I hate that, but I like the like I like
Speaker 1: listening to like Judy and I don't like audio erotica,
Speaker 1: but I like listening like it's like the sounds of
Speaker 1: people fucking. Oh that's fun. I mean, you could just
Speaker 1: live in any apartment in New York's my old heart,
Speaker 1: my old department in Harlem. My neighbors used to get it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, and then I would like sort
Speaker 1: of have this competition in my mind with them, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can suck to, you know, I'd like
Speaker 1: cast somebody over and oh my god, I actually I
Speaker 1: hate listening to people have something to a big way,
Speaker 1: like nails on the chalkboard. It sounds if it sounds
Speaker 1: like it's a good time, you know, I'm interested. And
Speaker 1: then after a while I'm like, especially if it's someone
Speaker 1: I know, Like I think it's because I'm loud when
Speaker 1: I fuck, And so it's like, I like your roommatesterial back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely be there. Oh my god, I got to listen
Speaker 1: to my room, my room with that I share a
Speaker 1: wall with I finally got to hear him sunk the
Speaker 1: other night, and I was like, TV not turn the down.
Speaker 1: You're like, do you feel like you know him better now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's doing pretty good job. I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of him. Good for him, Good for him. I
Speaker 1: know my boyfriend just got a female roommate that shares
Speaker 1: the wall, and that bedroom has been empty for our
Speaker 1: entire relationship. So I'm like, she's gonna have to nut,
Speaker 1: she's going to get to know you very well. Well, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just gonna make me feel uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be rude. That's why
Speaker 1: my roommates never hurt. Stephen and I have sex, because
Speaker 1: I'm so paranoid about it that I'm so quiet, like
Speaker 1: I'm nice to ever be loud, Like, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: just can't be. I don't know. I also, you can
Speaker 1: listen and then so and then and then you also
Speaker 1: do is one of the last things we want to
Speaker 1: talk about. But the Naked Show. Yeah, you you host it.
Speaker 1: You're the only host right I hosted and produced that
Speaker 1: and you're completely naked. Krin's done it. I've been there together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same first we popped our naked we did Alis
Speaker 1: and I prepared for the naked show together and you guys,
Speaker 1: weren't you weren't You're never nervous to do this, not
Speaker 1: anymore where you Nervero said, all because I kept waiting
Speaker 1: to get nervous, and then I was. And I remember
Speaker 1: sitting there and we like naked in the green room
Speaker 1: at the Creek, and I still was not nervous, and
Speaker 1: that no point did I get nervy. I got nervous
Speaker 1: right before I went up. But I was also the
Speaker 1: first one up, and I think that if I hadn't
Speaker 1: been first, I wouldn't have been. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, wow, I feel like almost
Speaker 1: too comfortable naked. Yeah. I don't know, I just don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of it. There was like the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like, there's a lot of adrenaline pup being definitely,
Speaker 1: And then I think a lot of it was just
Speaker 1: like because I was first, and I was like, it's
Speaker 1: always easier if you see somebody else do it first,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when it's so weird like that, And
Speaker 1: like two weeks prior to that, I had done the
Speaker 1: mushroom show or I was also first tripping on mushrooms
Speaker 1: on stage, So I was like, why do I do
Speaker 1: all these crazy things? Why do I have the first
Speaker 1: Do you ever get shitty? Like, has anybody ever snuck
Speaker 1: photos or something in the show or because I know
Speaker 1: you're very you're very vocal about like phones away, not
Speaker 1: that I know of, and we do have people like
Speaker 1: watching the audience for the kind of stuff and it's
Speaker 1: a pretty smell room. Um, so not that I know of. Um,
Speaker 1: because anybody ever said anything shitty at you you during
Speaker 1: or after I mean after, yeah, like comments on your
Speaker 1: body or um. Well, after the first time, this guy
Speaker 1: uh came up to me in the bar after the show,
Speaker 1: fully clothed and he was like that kind of a
Speaker 1: visual thing, it's gonna be hard. But he was like,
Speaker 1: I promise me you'll never do this again. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what, that's a weird And then he was
Speaker 1: like and I was like, I don't need you to
Speaker 1: criticize anything about what I did tonight and got all
Speaker 1: like finger shaky at him and uh, and then he
Speaker 1: was just like like gesture towards my body and he
Speaker 1: was like, you need to worry less about this and
Speaker 1: worry more about this and pointed to his mouth and
Speaker 1: then to his mouth, Yeah, implying like, worry less about
Speaker 1: my body and focus more on my words is basically
Speaker 1: what he was saying. So because we're so worried about
Speaker 1: your body. So it's like, hey, bitch, you're hot, but
Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to tell a joke is essentially
Speaker 1: what I read it as. And I had done well,
Speaker 1: so then I got really mad and then I streamed
Speaker 1: at him. Uh yeah, the show was very fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a great time. Was I there for that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were the person that was on cocaine? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then got really mad when we he offered to buy
Speaker 1: us a drink so aggressively and we both said no,
Speaker 1: and then he got really mad that we said no,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what that person is mentally all there?
Speaker 1: I know we're talking Yeah, well he also I mean,
Speaker 1: like also the same person. I was taking a shot
Speaker 1: with a group of people and as we were cheersing
Speaker 1: the shot, he goes, hey, can I bout you a drink?
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, man, I'm in the middle
Speaker 1: of taking a shot and I have a drink right here,
Speaker 1: and I took the shot and then he goes, okay,
Speaker 1: I bought you a drink and I was like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I just took a shot, like okay. I met him
Speaker 1: not coked up, and I didn't realize it was him
Speaker 1: because he wasn't acting like a monster. And then he
Speaker 1: told me his name after I'm like, oh, I know
Speaker 1: you Will Sullivan's introduced me to him, and because I
Speaker 1: was like, that's not who I think it is, right,
Speaker 1: and then he introduced I'm like, oh, that's an and
Speaker 1: then I was just he grosses me out. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I mean he has since apologized to me and we've
Speaker 1: sort of like squashed the beef, but I still not
Speaker 1: ever going to be like friends at this guy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: So like that was that was pretty shifty and like
Speaker 1: a certain sort of like a barrage of things on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And I torture myself by going on m r A
Speaker 1: podcasts and shows and then just getting U wait, you
Speaker 1: go on men's rights activist podcasts. I mean like I've
Speaker 1: been on the gap of Mick in a show and
Speaker 1: I did Luis Gon on this podcast once, so you
Speaker 1: can imagine what that was like. Shout out to the
Speaker 1: go mites who are not listening. No, they probably are.
Speaker 1: They probably love it, and then they just don't say anything,
Speaker 1: and then they call counts who should be raped? Because
Speaker 1: how are they going to know what to call you
Speaker 1: a cunt about exactly exactly? I'm like, why you knew
Speaker 1: exactly what I said last week? Danny? I don't know? Whatever?
Speaker 1: You So, what's your mentality when you go on shows
Speaker 1: like that? Um? I mean at this point it's like
Speaker 1: I'm sort of jaded to it, so it's like whatever
Speaker 1: looking to the show? Um? And also now that I'm
Speaker 1: in charge of it, um, I feel like it's sort
Speaker 1: of my obligation to the other comedians who are mostly
Speaker 1: doing it for the first time, to like be a
Speaker 1: calming presence. Are are other comics get nervous when they
Speaker 1: do it? Uh? Yes? And no. It depends on the person,
Speaker 1: you know, And I mean we've had you know, there's
Speaker 1: like interesting stories like Danni's para fan who you know
Speaker 1: recently lost a bunch of weight. Did it before he
Speaker 1: lost a bunch away and then after he lost a
Speaker 1: bunch of way, it's like this very transformative thing for him. Um.
Speaker 1: And just like you know, people who have various body
Speaker 1: issues because we all do. And it's like a lot
Speaker 1: about like facing your demons, and I mean like, I
Speaker 1: mean that's not like we don't say that at the show,
Speaker 1: but like that is what's internally going on for a
Speaker 1: lot of comics. So it's like behind the scenes. It's
Speaker 1: very cool to watch. Yeah, and it's cool to watch
Speaker 1: as an audience member, because I don't know, that's the
Speaker 1: scariest thing in the world to me, going out on
Speaker 1: stage naked like that, that that like gives me anxiety
Speaker 1: in such a way that like no airplane or talk
Speaker 1: tall building could ever give me that much anxiety. But
Speaker 1: it's cool to see people I don't know, not give
Speaker 1: a shit. Yeah, And the nunity wears nudity wears off
Speaker 1: after five seconds. And also it's a little bit like, hey,
Speaker 1: if I can desensitize people to my naked body and
Speaker 1: then it'll be great for when my picture is eventually
Speaker 1: leak onto the internet. It's true, everyone was like yeah
Speaker 1: seeing it, Okay, what's so interesting. I mean that's like
Speaker 1: like like a common fear used on television and movies,
Speaker 1: like showing up naked to school or going on stage naked,
Speaker 1: used as this huge fear that we have, and it's
Speaker 1: something about just like it's something about like everyone else
Speaker 1: seeing something that we only keep in private, when other
Speaker 1: cultures and in other periods and time, it was totally
Speaker 1: normal to walk around naked. It's like somehow along the
Speaker 1: way we made the body this thing that has to
Speaker 1: be hidden and shared only with a couple or one
Speaker 1: other person. And I mean we see it in different
Speaker 1: religions and it's just so strange to me. Like I
Speaker 1: didn't particularly want to like show, like do it naked,
Speaker 1: but I was like when I saw that I existed,
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I have to do
Speaker 1: this just because I talk so much about how it's
Speaker 1: something that shouldn't feared that I was like, I just gotta,
Speaker 1: I just gotta do it because otherwise I'm almost like
Speaker 1: a hypocrite, Like I feel like I am always talking
Speaker 1: about that, and I mean it's true, like I'm just
Speaker 1: very comfortable naked though. I mean every but did anybody
Speaker 1: ever have comment on your body when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: like when you people comment on women's bodies all the time.
Speaker 1: The differences I think for me, like it just I know,
Speaker 1: like you know, I've certainly worked to keep in shape,
Speaker 1: and it's not like an easy thing for me. I
Speaker 1: mean that's more because I'm obsessed with food. It's not
Speaker 1: really like my body like I'm I'm actually like quote
Speaker 1: blessed with a body. That's not too bad because I
Speaker 1: could be like severely obvious with the way I eat
Speaker 1: by now. But like it's more like I just never
Speaker 1: let anyone's comments about my body affect me. And like
Speaker 1: my I think the people who aren't I hold so
Speaker 1: few people's opinions as important. So like the people who
Speaker 1: I did think we're important in my life, like my
Speaker 1: parents and stuff. They've never said anything. I mean, I
Speaker 1: have jokes, Like my brother has certainly commented on it,
Speaker 1: which I think is hilarious. What does he say? I mean,
Speaker 1: just like telling me fat, like the way a brother
Speaker 1: would not nothing against him, Like he's a totally good person,
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, And then sometimes like when boyfriends
Speaker 1: have commented and this is positive or negative. I hate
Speaker 1: any comments on my body, like like we've talked about that,
Speaker 1: Like I like, like you look good after that, Like
Speaker 1: I don't want you look like you lost a lot
Speaker 1: of weight, you look like you don't I don't want
Speaker 1: any of that I don't want anything that that. It's
Speaker 1: like if you think that I don't know exactly how
Speaker 1: I look every inch at every moment, you do not
Speaker 1: know me at all. I was like how much time
Speaker 1: I spend naked? Like what if it was like I
Speaker 1: love your body or like you that's fine, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but I don't want any comments on progression. If you
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't get a hand. I hate that,
Speaker 1: or as if you're relying on that for your self esteem.
Speaker 1: It like you look so much like I'm constantly like
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people come up to you
Speaker 1: and tell you how much weight you lost, and I
Speaker 1: really hate that. Also, like it's just like my whole
Speaker 1: I mean, I fluctuate depending on my mood, depending on whatever.
Speaker 1: Because it's like sometimes I don't care, so I'll turn
Speaker 1: between like enjoying my life and like killing myself to
Speaker 1: keep fit, you know, and so I just have to
Speaker 1: go back and forth. So at no time am I
Speaker 1: going to go crazy over the edge. But like it's
Speaker 1: like I'm heavier, I don't care. It's like I'm having
Speaker 1: a great time. I'm happy, and I'm like eating, Like
Speaker 1: the best I've looked is definitely the status I've been. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like every time the best. Yeah, Oh my god, heart break.
Speaker 1: This hilarious picture of us after a breakup today we
Speaker 1: both look phenomenal. But I know, I know we were
Speaker 1: like the status we ever were our entire lie. I've
Speaker 1: I mean, I starggled with my way, like growing up
Speaker 1: and stuff all the time. But the first time I
Speaker 1: ever like bloss significant way, it was after my first breakup.
Speaker 1: And then I just like stopped eating and I was
Speaker 1: like doing a bunch of drugs and just drinking and
Speaker 1: you know, run around New York or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, it looks so much better than
Speaker 1: I ever looked. And I'm gonna go back and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see him. He's gonna be so upset he broke
Speaker 1: up with me and he was back, and I was like, peace, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm going to his wedding in September. Bring your boyfriend,
Speaker 1: bring my boy Okay, you go, And your boyfriend's cool.
Speaker 1: I like him a lot, like a cool dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. He seems like a respectful, nice,
Speaker 1: wonderful man. He's a nice Jewish boy. He's a nice
Speaker 1: Jewish boy. We were like an honorary Jew. I am, yeah,
Speaker 1: what race are you? I don't know? I say, I
Speaker 1: don't know because my mom was adopted. Your people tell
Speaker 1: me I am just now I'm Japanese in German, okay mostly,
Speaker 1: and then there's a little bit of like question mark,
Speaker 1: but he looks Spanish. Yeah, I looks Spanish or Jewish
Speaker 1: or Native American or Native American. When I braid my hair,
Speaker 1: people think I'm Native American. It fluctuates based on the season.
Speaker 1: Is I know, I've been bringing up rape a lot
Speaker 1: in this interview, but like, did you guys know that
Speaker 1: really feel like you're forcing me a show. I'm raping
Speaker 1: you with my rape facts. Well, deal with it. Native
Speaker 1: American women are substantially at higher risks of getting raped
Speaker 1: than any other race. Playing a full and rare I
Speaker 1: don't think that's it. There's people in their community or yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean like it's bad that's because there's fewer of them,
Speaker 1: but they they make up one of the biggest percentage
Speaker 1: of groups that are raped. Well, I think there's did
Speaker 1: not know as that that would make sense. O. Their
Speaker 1: whole cultures have been raped by it. But yeah, because
Speaker 1: they actually don't. People don't have many people getting raped
Speaker 1: by people in their community, so it would be other
Speaker 1: Native Americans because they still do live on on reservations.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like this isolated community with the
Speaker 1: laws law. And then secondly, alcoholism is super prevalent in
Speaker 1: the Native American community, and as I think we all know,
Speaker 1: the white people ruin their lives. Yeah, it's not any
Speaker 1: excuse or anything, but you know, alcohol and sex crimes
Speaker 1: go hand in hand a lot of the time. That
Speaker 1: a bit and people try to say, well that you know,
Speaker 1: don't drink or be more responsible, but it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but on on both sides, like white telling me not
Speaker 1: to drink. Right, you're on the rez, there's no one
Speaker 1: there to hear you scream. Yeah, no apps if you
Speaker 1: get that is gonna make a horrible It makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense, and it's a lot of sense because well,
Speaker 1: the laws don't affect you. There's no authority anybody, like
Speaker 1: female genital mutilation that's happening in areas where they're governing
Speaker 1: themselves and isolated. So well, on that note, awesome, When
Speaker 1: is your next naked show? Next Naked Shows June twenty
Speaker 1: four at the creek in the cave. What the week
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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's beautiful because there's so many more
Speaker 1: lips and dick types than we know. And fun fact
Speaker 1: on the last show, the biggest and you know, do
Speaker 1: you take the dick into consideration because it's soft And
Speaker 1: every guy every show is like, I'm gonna get hard
Speaker 1: and go on stage when you're not. They try to
Speaker 1: get hard. But every guys like this, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: not going to do this. I know you're not. Do
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