Speaker 1: Man, what's popping? This is the R and B Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am Nate Brillison, I'm real, Mike Rob. We got
Speaker 1: a special guest, Lamar, what up? What's going on? Man?
Speaker 1: A t D dropped their beat. Yeah, oh no no, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I had a long day and not really trying
Speaker 1: to go by my lady dressed out for her night
Speaker 1: on the town down, but now ain't going down. See now, baby,
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Speaker 1: that's On't hot, man, I get I get hype. Man
Speaker 1: hYP got our own phone a lot. When he first
Speaker 1: told me about the show R and B, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they got an R and B show the NFL network.
Speaker 1: Who's saying I did? I thought that at first. Today
Speaker 1: explained it to you. So no disrespect, but so for
Speaker 1: everybody listening, that's a voice of Lamar Whitley. Hey, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming. You are one of the best backers,
Speaker 1: pass rushers, tacklers, all that from our error like say this, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, like I know more than I know this
Speaker 1: man is a month that I've had to block this dude,
Speaker 1: or attempt to block this dude. I've had to run
Speaker 1: away from this dude being at quarterback. Right. Uh he
Speaker 1: gets down, Yeah, yeah, he gets down. He's one of
Speaker 1: those guys on the board. You gotta say, this dude
Speaker 1: right here, slide everybody to him, chip them, put a
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Speaker 1: So what are you saying about this man? Shooter? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't trying to understand. I mean, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're going after after a different
Speaker 1: market that was when used to in the basketball round.
Speaker 1: You know market, what market is that TD They're going
Speaker 1: after first of all, the really young kids, okay, and
Speaker 1: then also going after more diverse, uh demographics. You're saying
Speaker 1: than the usual like urban hip hop filling basket. Are
Speaker 1: you saying there isn't a market for trying he's trying?
Speaker 1: So he's the basketball shoes something like women exactly? You
Speaker 1: know almost, so you're saying there isn't a market for
Speaker 1: waterproof family reunion shoes. Like's not You're not personally not,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think they were. This is what we
Speaker 1: can't say is that Steph Curry has brought over a
Speaker 1: billion dollars to their basketball division and they say that
Speaker 1: his contract, you know what the numbers, his contract is
Speaker 1: worth upwards to fourteen billion dollars to under armour. How
Speaker 1: crazy is that? Yeah? But how much? How much? How much?
Speaker 1: Is Steph Curry getting in that what you're saying? All
Speaker 1: of that last year reportedly he made like you know,
Speaker 1: it was like fifteen and twenty million. Oh, just something
Speaker 1: just fitting, something like all right, well listen, we'll get
Speaker 1: to that a T D. You gotta beat Son. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I always I always sound like I'm about to rap boy,
Speaker 1: but I never really wrapped. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like a game spinner. I'll just knowledge over. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, you got the hot top
Speaker 1: Baker on the day they Hey, I got the Hot
Speaker 1: to come bad Dog? I was that was supposed to
Speaker 1: be your intro. You know what I'm saying, it's about
Speaker 1: to take that I got, I got the next week,
Speaker 1: the next week, next week, you're gonna get it. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, what's up? Man? Let's jump right into it, Lamar.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us man. I appreciate man. So,
Speaker 1: so what's up? Talk to us? Man? What's next for you?
Speaker 1: You said that you've got some stuff going on in
Speaker 1: Michigan right now, But what's the grand scope on what
Speaker 1: you got going on? Man? You know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of different things right now. I'm finishing up school getting
Speaker 1: my masters degree engagulations, you know, sports counsel appreciated, Mind
Speaker 1: support management. UM. I have my AU basketball program called
Speaker 1: Greenwood Elite based out of Michigan. We got teams from
Speaker 1: fourth grade all the way up to eleven grade. UM.
Speaker 1: I got some things going on with a commercial real
Speaker 1: estate that I have going on back at home. I've
Speaker 1: been doing that about two three years now. You know,
Speaker 1: I do my own podcast show called Avenue fifty six.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. You know, y'all come over there and check
Speaker 1: me out. Man, We're gonna you know, but I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still working out, having fun. You know,
Speaker 1: I was here, um yesterday doing audition for us for
Speaker 1: a show. You know, hopefully I get that call and
Speaker 1: host the show and I can, you know, be up
Speaker 1: here doing a little something with y'all, see y'all every day.
Speaker 1: But still working out. You know, my phone still working,
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't control that that that's in
Speaker 1: their hands. Are you done? I mean, you didn't play
Speaker 1: this game along time? Bro. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that you sound like you got other interests. Hey, you
Speaker 1: know what what I'm saying. You know, they always told
Speaker 1: me that, you know, coming up. You know, football didn't
Speaker 1: last that long. So I always here for life after
Speaker 1: the game because you never know when it end, and
Speaker 1: I just always prepared for that. So if my phone
Speaker 1: don't ring, I'm prepared for whatever happens after that. So
Speaker 1: I'm just always staying prepared. You know, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: let nobody control my destiny. You know, what's up to
Speaker 1: them to call me, but that's not gonna stop me
Speaker 1: from doing other things. Last year, you played with the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Um, great year, bro Uh. Talk about playing
Speaker 1: for Bruce Arians and being out there being in that culture.
Speaker 1: Um looked like he was having fun. Man. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I called a little heat
Speaker 1: uh for talking about the Cardinals. Uh. I kind of
Speaker 1: said something about the defensive coordinator. He man, what you say?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I didn't hear that report.
Speaker 1: We just say I called him dumb. Uh. So I
Speaker 1: went and blasted the decordinate a little bit because you know,
Speaker 1: I just felt like last year playing with the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and I said this, it was a great organization, great team,
Speaker 1: great players, everything was great. And I felt like we
Speaker 1: had a team to actually when the Super Bowl. You know,
Speaker 1: come from Pittsburgh, you know, when you gotta win a team,
Speaker 1: you know what I've seen that. I just felt like
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator didn't listen to his players. You know.
Speaker 1: You know how some situations coaches feel like they know
Speaker 1: more than the players, and you know, when you're out
Speaker 1: there playing the game of football, you have to listen
Speaker 1: to the guys out there on the field. Because me
Speaker 1: coming from coach Dick Lebo, he was that type of
Speaker 1: guy that listened to his players and he helped make
Speaker 1: those adjustments doing game time. So we're the last year
Speaker 1: in Arizona. It wasn't that same field, you know, and
Speaker 1: I felt like, damn, you know, this is a super
Speaker 1: Bowl team and a lot of people look at and say,
Speaker 1: you know, Arizona would have a chance to do the
Speaker 1: same thing next year. But we know that teams change
Speaker 1: every year. It's hard to get back to the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game into that Super Bowl, and we have a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of guys that's playing in this
Speaker 1: lead that's never been there, you know, so you have
Speaker 1: to see the moment while you're there. And I felt
Speaker 1: like he just didn't take his players. Just to give
Speaker 1: full context on Lamas quote, and again you said you
Speaker 1: brought it up so because you're talking about both the
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Cardinals defensive coordination, and you said they
Speaker 1: thought we were like Madden players. They draw something up
Speaker 1: on paper and it looked good, but the players still
Speaker 1: have to go out there and run it. Those guys
Speaker 1: didn't really listen to their players. They wanted to do
Speaker 1: their own way and their way only as you guys
Speaker 1: this place. Have you guys ever felt like that, like, hey,
Speaker 1: these players aren't gonna work and how do you hand
Speaker 1: a Let me, I'm gon backtrack a little bit. So, um,
Speaker 1: we talked about this on our podcast about players calling
Speaker 1: out upper upper management or calling out coaches, and we
Speaker 1: both agree you have to be established in this sleep.
Speaker 1: You have to have years on you, like Lamar, you
Speaker 1: have to have had a resume that's strong enough to
Speaker 1: where you can say something like that. So obviously we
Speaker 1: all think to say, I don't see no problem with it.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna call a player dumb, a coach down,
Speaker 1: you gotta be a veteran that has been there, done
Speaker 1: that has experienced. Now, now let me let me we
Speaker 1: back in through the back door. I'll do the analyst thing.
Speaker 1: Listen so that I'll do the analyst thing. I was
Speaker 1: talking to a player that will remain nameless on the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals team, and he said, we had so much
Speaker 1: talent on both sides of the ball, specifically on defense.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why our defensive coordinator would try to
Speaker 1: using a baseball uh quote changed the game in the
Speaker 1: ninth in it, he's like, we showed up, thank you
Speaker 1: those I can't see lamars. He said, we showed up
Speaker 1: to Carolina with an over complicated game plan and it
Speaker 1: was much different than what we were used to. So
Speaker 1: what people saw was us getting our asking. What we
Speaker 1: knew as players was we went to a game plan
Speaker 1: doing something completely different than we were accustomed to make stuff.
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm listening to him. I'm making up that's
Speaker 1: crazy because he was in there. He was in the
Speaker 1: locker room. I just happened to be casually talking to
Speaker 1: one of my boys this off season, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: for real, like I was watching it as a former
Speaker 1: player in analysts now, like man, y'all getting the bait,
Speaker 1: the breaks beat off you, but really, they went to
Speaker 1: that game doing something that y'all, and I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't talk to anybody or whatever. I just watched the film. Right,
Speaker 1: you look at the film, you look at what they
Speaker 1: were defensively, what you guys were doing all during the season,
Speaker 1: and you look at that game and it just looked
Speaker 1: like two totally different teams, looked like two totally different philosophies,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It just didn't look like
Speaker 1: the same team to me. Carolina. What I mean, Carolina
Speaker 1: is a good team. It was a good team, but
Speaker 1: they were that much better than the Arizona did. It
Speaker 1: makes sense. It didn't obviously, like you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: big Carson family that he didn't play his best game.
Speaker 1: But still it's just the result. The result, the result
Speaker 1: and fit what we saw out of Arizona all year.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, being in that game,
Speaker 1: right going into the locker room at halftime, what what
Speaker 1: were you thinking? Well, you know what I was thinking,
Speaker 1: because I was I was hurt, so I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was just coaching the um. But I was just
Speaker 1: thinking that we need to make some adjustments because usually
Speaker 1: offenses running all their places, you're gonna see everything in
Speaker 1: the first half, so you have to make those adjustments
Speaker 1: and come out in the second half and do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. And I felt like we just didn't
Speaker 1: make those adjustments. You know, like like you said, we
Speaker 1: didn't have a bad team. We had a great defense.
Speaker 1: We had a great defenses. They just knew that every
Speaker 1: time we're in third down, we're blitzing, we're bringing the house.
Speaker 1: Cam knew that. I'm pretty sure y'a knew that too,
Speaker 1: and everybody a cross Lee knew that. So what they
Speaker 1: do They just kept on picking us apart doing that
Speaker 1: hitting the big place. We didn't make the adjustments, and
Speaker 1: then you have players on the sideline. You know that's
Speaker 1: not what's going on in the game. But when there's
Speaker 1: no communication from the man up top, things don't have
Speaker 1: So you guys couldn't say nothing to him. Huh, you
Speaker 1: couldn't say anything, hey, yo. And you know how certain
Speaker 1: people is when they get when they're get in a
Speaker 1: certain position, you know, they feel like they know everything
Speaker 1: and they don't listen. They don't listen to their players.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm coming from Dick l Bow, you know,
Speaker 1: great defensive coordinator. He listened to his players. So I'm
Speaker 1: expecting if coach Dick Lebow was listening to his players,
Speaker 1: that any other defensive coordinator's gonna listen to his players,
Speaker 1: but especially with the amount of talent you had, Like no,
Speaker 1: I know, obviously guys are banged up. You and Honey
Speaker 1: Badger with that crushed because I feel like that young boy.
Speaker 1: So it's a trip, man, listening to what you're saying
Speaker 1: and then kind of playing back what we saw. We
Speaker 1: were at that game, right know, we we did game,
Speaker 1: but listening to what you said, see I didn't. So
Speaker 1: now people know I'm not making it up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying because validation exactly, because at first no
Speaker 1: one has come come out and said that. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have criticized me, saying or lamars man because
Speaker 1: he's not on the NFL roster this he's that. I'm
Speaker 1: not yo. I'm telling you the truth. I'm not upset.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not upset. I got a million other
Speaker 1: things going around. I played nine years in the league.
Speaker 1: Why would I be upset about that. I'm just speaking
Speaker 1: the truth. And now that you said that, I'm like, hell,
Speaker 1: that's fast, it's good man. But you know, It's crazy,
Speaker 1: is that like coaches can talk about a player. They
Speaker 1: can call player, you know, intelligent, they can call them dumb.
Speaker 1: They can say the players are smart or he isn't fast,
Speaker 1: he can't jump that. They can criticize us from the
Speaker 1: bottom down. As soon as a player says something that's legitimate,
Speaker 1: like you with no hate involved, just saying the decordinator
Speaker 1: was dumb. He made some dumb decision toward the end
Speaker 1: of the year and that cost us a chance at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in two thousand and fifteen sixty. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that player is a guy that's out
Speaker 1: of pocket. And we talked about this a lot. We're
Speaker 1: putting this box as players, right, and as soon as
Speaker 1: we step outside of what they know us as, which
Speaker 1: is basically jocks, we get the the brash end of it.
Speaker 1: But I would say the better coaches, the better coaches
Speaker 1: can sit there and and I've seen it what guys
Speaker 1: are saying, we need to be doing this. There's some
Speaker 1: dumb stuff we're doing in the coach will sit there
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, you're right, right, what y'all want to do.
Speaker 1: But like he said, lobos On one of the best,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what I'm saying is Burg, but
Speaker 1: what I knew about all my boys that played there.
Speaker 1: He would see his talent. He would create a game
Speaker 1: plan based off of the strengths that they have, and
Speaker 1: that was all season long and times you have to
Speaker 1: adjust depending on the team. But he wasn't a guy
Speaker 1: that saw a team was like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do something different. Now we're gonna do what
Speaker 1: we do best and make them adjust. And that's what
Speaker 1: the best coaches do. Hey, TV, I know you got
Speaker 1: a question for Lamar. What's up? Definitely? I don't know
Speaker 1: he talking about the not till pleasant times there with
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But overall, most people see Bruce arians as
Speaker 1: a fun coach to play for. And obviously you played
Speaker 1: for Mike Tomlin for years in Pittsburgh and Mike Rod
Speaker 1: he played for b Carroll. So overall, I think most
Speaker 1: people assume these like the most fun coaches to play for.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think who was who was more
Speaker 1: fun than why? I'm not gonna lie. I always wanted
Speaker 1: to play for Mike Tomlin. I always wanted to get
Speaker 1: a chance to play for him, And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie just for just from the postgame interviews, right, how honest?
Speaker 1: To me? I felt like he was the most honest.
Speaker 1: I felt like he was in front of our team
Speaker 1: room saying this to us, but he was saying it
Speaker 1: to the camera like we just got beat, no excuses?
Speaker 1: What do you want me to say about it? And
Speaker 1: I always I always have respect for coaches who was
Speaker 1: standing up there and and take it on the chain. Now,
Speaker 1: we didn't coach right, or we didn't do this, we
Speaker 1: could have done this better. And then on the same
Speaker 1: time say, oh yeah, we snapped the ball to Levi
Speaker 1: bes he the best back in the league, and he
Speaker 1: got it. He got it done. I'm as big as fan.
Speaker 1: We need big with big, big back. Y'all gonna see
Speaker 1: why I'm so excited. I'm know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let Lamar tackle this question. Last. I'm gonna share
Speaker 1: a quick story about Tomlin not. We were in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: right uh. I was playing for Detroit. I just signed
Speaker 1: my contract, went out there. We had a rain delay.
Speaker 1: It's like thunderstorms. So we're out in the locker room,
Speaker 1: and the locker rooms are sitting my close to each other.
Speaker 1: So I'm out there just warming up, just chilling talking
Speaker 1: a couple of boys that I know on the steepers team,
Speaker 1: and Mike comes out. You know, Mike super chill bro. Like,
Speaker 1: if if you don't know Mike Tomlin, you wouldn't think
Speaker 1: like he's this head coach in NFL. He's the guy
Speaker 1: that you relate to and talk to. So he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: your name, what's up. I'm like, I'm chilling, man, how
Speaker 1: are you doing. He's like, okay, cool, He's like yeah,
Speaker 1: minutes Raindeer lay Man throwing everything. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, yeah. He was like, you know, we
Speaker 1: was looking at you. You know, we were thinking about
Speaker 1: bringing it to Pittsburgh. I said, yeah, yeah, I heard.
Speaker 1: He was like, uh, how much did Detroit pay you?
Speaker 1: I was like that they gave me five you know
Speaker 1: they you know, Levin guaranteed something, something that you know
Speaker 1: I could run with. He as a real dude. He
Speaker 1: was like, nah, we weren't gonna pay you. That's like,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna pay that with you a good player though,
Speaker 1: And it was like it was like a conversation you
Speaker 1: were have at a barbershop. I didn't get mad. I
Speaker 1: was like I laughed. I was like, no, I know
Speaker 1: I could dig that, and this is I don't even
Speaker 1: play for him. So magic, like you said, Mike, the
Speaker 1: type of relationship he has with guys on that squad
Speaker 1: where he can criticize you, he can encourage you all
Speaker 1: while being honest. And that's what that's all to mention.
Speaker 1: You know, he is a young black coach in this league, thriving,
Speaker 1: you know, doing what he does on a yearly basis.
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about head coaches. Lamar, who you
Speaker 1: like and why? What about these coaches stand out? Well?
Speaker 1: I can. I can talk about coach Thomlin and Bruce
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, but coach Tomlin being that
Speaker 1: you know, he drafted me to Pittsburgh. He's just he
Speaker 1: always been that straight up guy. I mean fun, he
Speaker 1: makes he makes it fun. It's a family type atmos Fear.
Speaker 1: I mean, every time he's in the meeting room, he's
Speaker 1: telling some kind of story about his family and his kids.
Speaker 1: So he tells so many stories it kind of felt
Speaker 1: like you knew them personally, you know, just to short
Speaker 1: the stories that he told. And I mean he treated
Speaker 1: everybody like a man. So he wasn't big on finding
Speaker 1: people because he said, hey, man, you got enough guys
Speaker 1: in your pocket, enough family in your pocket. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to take your money, just get it under control.
Speaker 1: So he was always one of those type of people.
Speaker 1: Doors are always open. I mean you can go in
Speaker 1: there and talk to him about anything, you know. Like
Speaker 1: I said, it felt like he was just a player
Speaker 1: on the team, you know, because he was. He was
Speaker 1: that cool. He didn't have he didn't have like strict
Speaker 1: rules where it's always like an uptight thing. It was
Speaker 1: just like, hey, learn how to be a professional, treat
Speaker 1: yourself like a man. I'm gonna let you'all handle it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to step in and do
Speaker 1: those type of things. And and that's how the whole
Speaker 1: entire facility is actually. You know, when you and I
Speaker 1: talked about Mr Rooney yesterday, it was a family atmosphere.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see Mr Rudy in the locker room
Speaker 1: working out. You see you know that's Art Runey in
Speaker 1: the way room working out. You see Dan Rooney coming
Speaker 1: through the locker room giving people that walking through the
Speaker 1: training room. You know, his office was always open, like
Speaker 1: you can just go into Mr Runy, Can I talk
Speaker 1: to you come on in. You know, they was They
Speaker 1: was there to help you every step of the way.
Speaker 1: You know. So that that's a great organization. And when
Speaker 1: I got to Arizona it was the same way because
Speaker 1: you have a lot of guys over there from Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: you know, from the trainers to some of the cooks,
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody coaching staff was like Pittsburgh there and
Speaker 1: having coach Bruce Anon. And Bruce Anson is a straight
Speaker 1: up dude. You know, he would cut you out. He
Speaker 1: will tell you what's on his mind. And overall like
Speaker 1: Coach Thomas, he's a great guy. He speaks his mind,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be honest with you. He's gonna treat you
Speaker 1: like a professional, you know. And and and there it
Speaker 1: was like a family type atmosphere, you know. So it
Speaker 1: was it was similarity. Bruce Aeronson, Bruce Anrinson will cut
Speaker 1: you out, that was the dipper to him and Coach Thomas.
Speaker 1: You dun't he would tell you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you have no problem doing that. But from the owner
Speaker 1: own down, man, it was when I say, a great organization, man,
Speaker 1: it was a great organization and it was very similar,
Speaker 1: you know, just Pittsburg has been doing it for a
Speaker 1: long period well, and I think a lot of good
Speaker 1: coaches have a lot of similarities that family atmosphere. Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll was the same way. A family atmosphere. Everybody felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, you wanted to contribute to the family. Everybody
Speaker 1: felt like you can bring your own family to the
Speaker 1: building and be a part of meetings and all of
Speaker 1: those types of things. Anything like I've I've brought my
Speaker 1: kids when they care wasn't open, had to bring my
Speaker 1: kids to practice. Yeah, they in the office. It is
Speaker 1: all good, you know, in the owner's office, are all good.
Speaker 1: It's one thing about Pete that I can say. It
Speaker 1: was different from other coaches being around him. He always,
Speaker 1: uh was trying to teach you something deeper like and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that not not that that other coaches
Speaker 1: don't do this, but he was always you know, he
Speaker 1: was a psych major, So everything was for a reason.
Speaker 1: He would you know, even team meetings and where he
Speaker 1: stood was for a reason, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: whether it was on stage or down there with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, all of those things made it made a difference.
Speaker 1: The type of music he was playing during practice, All
Speaker 1: of those things made a difference, and he always knew
Speaker 1: that coaching was kind of something that I may have
Speaker 1: wanted to do one day. So we would always have
Speaker 1: these conversations, and he was very intentional about everything, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: with videos that were shown, who was in the in
Speaker 1: the weight room, with the types of personalities that were
Speaker 1: in the locker room. He would call us when he
Speaker 1: would make big you know, I remember when Percy Harvin
Speaker 1: was we were thinking about getting Percy and he called
Speaker 1: you know me, you know, called camp Chancellor. I know,
Speaker 1: he called Tommy, called a lot of the veterans, a
Speaker 1: lot of veterans, a lot of leadership. It was like, yo,
Speaker 1: how does it? How do you think this personality would fit?
Speaker 1: And not a lot of coaches do that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So, uh, Pete was all of that,
Speaker 1: all fun and games, all of that, uh, but again
Speaker 1: he was always about something a little bit deeper to
Speaker 1: and speaking of deeper, somebody that got deeper pockets. It's
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cotto. So let's touch on that man second before
Speaker 1: TD give us another Um. Okay, so may von Miller
Speaker 1: pay that dude? Man? You see this, No Nate, no Nate,
Speaker 1: you see this. John Elway need to stop playing with
Speaker 1: this lad's money. They get his man sixty million guaranteed. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm talking on Von Miller. Okay for those Okay, for
Speaker 1: those listening, can we talk about he paid his dudes
Speaker 1: next year one and three million dollar contract. Um. If
Speaker 1: I'm Von, I'm like, that's the most in total value
Speaker 1: for a nine quarterback. Okay, So let's let's go through
Speaker 1: the process of negotiations. Like there's a little bit. He
Speaker 1: got twenty six million to sign to day just to
Speaker 1: sign his name. That's crazy. Twenty six million signed his name. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we've been through contract negotiations. I've been through three
Speaker 1: of them myself. Personal, I haven't really Okay, I a
Speaker 1: little bit. I played back dog. This are you trying
Speaker 1: to sit out of football for a year? You want to?
Speaker 1: You're like, I take switch, let me get hey man.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Well, then let's talk about these contracts
Speaker 1: negotiations because they can get a little sticky. Well, people
Speaker 1: see what people don't know. They see the big numbers
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh man, you know my favorite player
Speaker 1: got paid or he got underpaid, overpaid. That's all they see.
Speaker 1: What we know is your agent calls you and he's like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: So the team's talking. They this is they first offer.
Speaker 1: First offer. What you see on TV is never the
Speaker 1: first offer you don't take. So what's attached to what
Speaker 1: we hear your first offer is all the negative things
Speaker 1: about you. So for everybody listening to imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: for a guy that works downtown l A in a cubicle,
Speaker 1: your boss comes in, he's like, hey, I know your
Speaker 1: your contracts almost up. Um, this is what we want
Speaker 1: to pay you, and this is why we're gonna pay this.
Speaker 1: It's not all the positive things. I remember every contract negotiation,
Speaker 1: it was about how old I am, the injuries I've had,
Speaker 1: the system I'm in, the better players out there. So
Speaker 1: it's almost like they're trying to mess with your mind.
Speaker 1: So you all of a sudden have a lower self appreciation.
Speaker 1: But if you signed that lower contract, oh man, we
Speaker 1: love you. Talk about it. Talk about contract negotiations and
Speaker 1: how you dealt with them as a young professional and
Speaker 1: then as a veteran. I mean, just as you know,
Speaker 1: when I signed my first big contract in Pittsburgh, Um,
Speaker 1: you know what and what was that? I would talk numbers, bro,
Speaker 1: you can't get this. The RB Podcast don't forget. We
Speaker 1: can look at you ain't forget how much it was
Speaker 1: what I forgot and they never forgot how much dollars.
Speaker 1: I see the roles on this. You try took it away.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my album watch over here. Okay, so
Speaker 1: another guy you got to watch. I got to to watches.
Speaker 1: He like T boy. Alright, alright, so first contract you
Speaker 1: think it was around what because we know we could
Speaker 1: look it up. Yeah, my first deal was I signed
Speaker 1: a six year, sixty one and a half million dollar
Speaker 1: contract and this was this is when uh, after my
Speaker 1: fourth year how old yea? Yeah, so Pittsburgh let me
Speaker 1: play at my rookie contract. Um and and we want
Speaker 1: to the negotiations that came low, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: we just kept fighting for more, you know, because I
Speaker 1: did put up great numbers, and uh, I put up
Speaker 1: some I put up some great numbers, and I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a type of money I should
Speaker 1: have if you look back on they said I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have it, because like I hurt. But I always tell people,
Speaker 1: you get paid for what you did, right, You get
Speaker 1: paid for what you did the potential of what you
Speaker 1: can and with the potential of what you can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so but you get paid for what you did. But um,
Speaker 1: what most people, when you're speaking about contracts, what they
Speaker 1: don't know is they look at the overall, the big number.
Speaker 1: But a lot of teams backloads your contracts and then
Speaker 1: you're five and six that you never see. So when
Speaker 1: they always wonder about why players are fighting for guaranteed
Speaker 1: money and more upfront money because most teams is gonna
Speaker 1: cut you back there. So a lot of people trying
Speaker 1: to get that guaranteed money right away up front, you know.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people, man, you should take this,
Speaker 1: you know, because they're not gonna make it a year
Speaker 1: five and six. They're gonna screw you and cut you.
Speaker 1: And that's why people try to get their money up
Speaker 1: front with the big sign of bonus. And I wanted
Speaker 1: my money up front up front, all right, so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off the rails a little bit. TD.
Speaker 1: So you were, you were down with your rookie deal
Speaker 1: and you got this big contract at twenty six years old.
Speaker 1: That's life changing. Now you are, you're already in the league,
Speaker 1: you're already established, you already made some money, you're already
Speaker 1: a millionaire now you're taking a different into like that
Speaker 1: upper echelon of financial stability at twenty six years old.
Speaker 1: What were you thinking when you knew that still was
Speaker 1: att I mean what I was thinking. I mean, the
Speaker 1: first thing I thought about was like, now we have
Speaker 1: money in this family to pass it on for generations.
Speaker 1: You know, That's the first thing that crossed my mind
Speaker 1: s we finally put a Woodley stamp on something where
Speaker 1: when I'm dead and going, there's gonna be some money passed.
Speaker 1: So that's the very first thing that crossed my mind.
Speaker 1: And then after that, I mean, I already had plan
Speaker 1: for the contract, so I knew what exactly what I
Speaker 1: was gonna do for my family, my mom my dad.
Speaker 1: So I kind of had everything already set up. That's
Speaker 1: how much I'm gonna spend on the house. You know,
Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna take care of. So the blueprint
Speaker 1: was already laid out because we knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't want to get into the situation
Speaker 1: now the money come, Oh what I do? Now I'm
Speaker 1: making bad decisions because I'm trying to make quick decisions,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the blueprint was already
Speaker 1: set out and all we had that that's the hardest part.
Speaker 1: Having a plan, definitely the hardest part. Man. So just
Speaker 1: before we get to this beat, T D. Lamar from
Speaker 1: what I took from that is for these young boys
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast that's in the league, have a
Speaker 1: plan that the goal is to make money, right, So
Speaker 1: don't be caught off guard when you make the money.
Speaker 1: Have a plan, layer blueprint down. So when you get
Speaker 1: this money, you got decisions based off of making this
Speaker 1: money and keeping this money going, not just for you
Speaker 1: in this lifetime. You're gonna be rich. You made it
Speaker 1: to the league, You're rich right now. The goal is
Speaker 1: to be wealthy for generations. Hey TV, let me get
Speaker 1: a beat. That's a freestyle beat, right definitely? Yea yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Let me get little
Speaker 1: water real quick, clear my throat and I'm saying hold on,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I like that. I ain't freached out in
Speaker 1: a minute, bring it right back. Everybody listening to the
Speaker 1: podcast like, oh boy, I like that. See Lamar says
Speaker 1: some real stuff. How could he? But that's real talk
Speaker 1: from Woodley. He said the decordinator didn't do his job,
Speaker 1: and everybody got down to shape the odds. Ain't tripping.
Speaker 1: We're not tripping. We doing our things. We're on the
Speaker 1: field trying to get it ranked. I didn't get it
Speaker 1: ranked and I played eleven gears. That's get him sweat
Speaker 1: and tears. But still I'm here. Do what we do though,
Speaker 1: keep it real. I'm just not let me chill. Mar
Speaker 1: hight back there, He's like, let's go in the drop.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's do a depth chart debates. Um,
Speaker 1: you know we got one of the best to do it,
Speaker 1: Lamar in the building. Um, let's talk about it. Let's
Speaker 1: talking about let's talk about best. That's basketball. Basketball. I
Speaker 1: really feel like I know about I don't know more
Speaker 1: about the NBA and NFL, but we'll get and we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. And speaking of the NBA, TV got
Speaker 1: the Dope podcast. Yeah, TD gotta they can take it.
Speaker 1: The podcasts fire. Um, all right, so um, let's talk linebackers.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about We'll do this real quick so we
Speaker 1: don't run out of time. Let's talk about who you
Speaker 1: looked up to before you got in the league. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about when you were in it, aside from yourself,
Speaker 1: who you thought was a monster, and then who was
Speaker 1: that dude right now. So this is the past present
Speaker 1: future depth chart debates. William asked all the questions, Hey,
Speaker 1: we get it, popping the question already. What did you
Speaker 1: look up to from yesteryear when you were in it?
Speaker 1: Who was the man aside from yourself and right now? Well,
Speaker 1: when I asked president, when I first, I mean looking
Speaker 1: up to somebody least, it wasn't actually a linebacker. I
Speaker 1: looked up to Jerome Bettis and like Hines Ward as
Speaker 1: far as like a position, not particularly a linebacker, you know,
Speaker 1: I just like the way they played the game. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: just having to be Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I was a
Speaker 1: still a fan growing so that really great for me.
Speaker 1: So when I got in the lead, you know, it
Speaker 1: was ray Lewis like watching them, I mean everything, you know,
Speaker 1: the attitude he played with, how he was the leader
Speaker 1: out there in the field. And then one thing I
Speaker 1: respected about him too is I had a chance to
Speaker 1: talk to ray Lewis my freshman, my rookie year at
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and I talked to him after
Speaker 1: we beat them in the ANFC Championship at the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and he said, man, go out here and sees this opportunity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you never know when it's gonna happen again, Like,
Speaker 1: take advantage of this. I'm like, man, we just beat them,
Speaker 1: and he's giving me advice to going here into the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and win. He said, Man, last year when
Speaker 1: I talked to you, I think I gave you too
Speaker 1: much advice because 'all came in and I but it
Speaker 1: was great advice. So I looked up to to Ray
Speaker 1: Lewis and and I used to like watching Patrick Willis play.
Speaker 1: I mean he was over the field. I mean he
Speaker 1: played with that with that dog attitude. He was sidelines,
Speaker 1: sideline down hill. Yeah, he was a dog mean but
Speaker 1: and you know, I had guys on my own team,
Speaker 1: like the James Harrison and I had James Ferry, and
Speaker 1: I had Lawrence Timmis, so I had I had a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys on my team too. And I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: the boys getting it. They had line back. How was
Speaker 1: that playing against like that type of corps Because you know, Mike,
Speaker 1: you're a fullback. There's games you're going to, the games
Speaker 1: you're going to forget that, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: we all men. So you're like, you know, you start
Speaker 1: watching on tape. You know, you're looking at body types
Speaker 1: and all of that, you know, but half of the
Speaker 1: time you didn't know where these cats coming from. That's
Speaker 1: where it was. You be in the backfield like I'm
Speaker 1: just staying in, bro, Just somebody gonna come to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that. That was really the
Speaker 1: hard part about playing Pittsburgh, Bro, Like it tested everything.
Speaker 1: And then with Troy back there, Bro, you make the
Speaker 1: key like something something happening over here, then they send
Speaker 1: like fine cats on the other side, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's what made it difficult. And then when
Speaker 1: you figuring out what they were doing, you had the
Speaker 1: physical confrontation you had to uh try to overcome. I
Speaker 1: remember James Harrison slapped me on the butt one time. Dog.
Speaker 1: He almost told my quad mom. I was like, dog man,
Speaker 1: oh man, Slama, Who who do you think is the
Speaker 1: best in the game? Right? Man? I got two guys.
Speaker 1: I got the guy from Carolina Luke. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you one. I'm Tommy David. Make that man look good too.
Speaker 1: He he helped me. Alright, Mike, I take that back
Speaker 1: my back list, let him talk shut up, and you
Speaker 1: know I got to go back to Pittsburgh. My man shakes,
Speaker 1: he are gonna do some stull. Oh he gonna really yea,
Speaker 1: he gonna go. They need him to. He gonna go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gonna go. I like it. Alright, alright, that's what's
Speaker 1: up man. Alright. So that was depth to oard debates.
Speaker 1: Let me get or not? TD, What do you have
Speaker 1: for us right now on this or not? So this
Speaker 1: is our orna segment for sure. For sure, as as
Speaker 1: Lamar says, he is a big hoops guy, and you
Speaker 1: know we all are to some extended again, Draymond the
Speaker 1: final is going on right now. Yas one Game five,
Speaker 1: Draymond did not play because of the step over. So
Speaker 1: my question to you guys is did you view Lebron
Speaker 1: step over Draymond Green as disrespect or not? And I know, Lamar,
Speaker 1: I know the dreamanager boy too so interested to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this, all right, so uh hey, Lamar,
Speaker 1: just let's check on man. That move Lebron did as
Speaker 1: a sucker move. Okay, you gotta keep it real. They
Speaker 1: down by twenty or thirty or whatever. He realized that
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors still can beat him if they
Speaker 1: shut down Clay and Curry, So who do he really
Speaker 1: go after? The man that really holds that team together
Speaker 1: is Draymond Green, So let's not a pick a fight
Speaker 1: with him at the end of the game, and you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna react. Knocked him down, step over and
Speaker 1: did this that pushing all that, But then go to
Speaker 1: the media and talk about, man, this guy said some
Speaker 1: disrespectful things that I got kids, that this and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was almost kind of like telling you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying the commissioner to view the tate looking too,
Speaker 1: that this guy's a problem. And then soon as he
Speaker 1: do it, Draymond gets suspended. What happened? Then Lebron go
Speaker 1: out there dropped forty one because he didn't have nobody guarding.
Speaker 1: So he built a little confidence. But on Thursday, that's
Speaker 1: gonna get taken back away. I like it. What do
Speaker 1: you say about people who have the mindset that Draymond
Speaker 1: has done that quite a Draymond is kind of look
Speaker 1: he on the fence. I like him as a player,
Speaker 1: but he is on just keep it real. The Draymond
Speaker 1: has been playing that way ever since he was in elementary. Like,
Speaker 1: that's how far I go back with Draymond ever since elementary.
Speaker 1: He always had that attitude, that that aggressive attitude going
Speaker 1: out there playing ball. You ain't gonna pump me. What
Speaker 1: happened is the league just got soft. So now you
Speaker 1: know it started with the Ben Wallace is and giving
Speaker 1: all them guys tech and they're making the lead soft.
Speaker 1: And by the league getting soft is trickling down to hey,
Speaker 1: you and all them elementary and all that. So you
Speaker 1: got a guy like Draymond and you said that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Charles Barkley did say though, that
Speaker 1: Draymond had a moral obligation to go after And as
Speaker 1: you guys know, I have nine dream family back home.
Speaker 1: It is total disrespect. If someone steps over you, now
Speaker 1: you have to make the person to step back the
Speaker 1: other way because it's straight up disrespect. We don't play that.
Speaker 1: It's hey, if he had a problem, you should have
Speaker 1: just seen him in the back. Hey, how light me
Speaker 1: in the back? You know what I'm saying, take this
Speaker 1: off the court, all right, that's what That's what somebody
Speaker 1: real would have did. I can dig that. So you're
Speaker 1: saying that the Goats stay Warriors are gonna close this out.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna ask because I love who Now that I
Speaker 1: I got you here, I know you gotta go. We
Speaker 1: gotta go. What about being out, Draymond miss in the game,
Speaker 1: Curry and Clay not necessarily playing up to standards. STEP's
Speaker 1: hurt right now. I think it's I think it's fairly obvious,
Speaker 1: but or it could be the shoes. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, and Kyrie and Lebron both dropped forty one
Speaker 1: like that ain't gonna happen every night, And I'm going
Speaker 1: for you know why Lebron dropped forty one because Draymond
Speaker 1: wasn't in and when Draymond is in, Steph Curry and
Speaker 1: UH and Clay played different because I mean, Draymond, get
Speaker 1: that ball out the rim and help that offense go
Speaker 1: and Steph Kurry And now you gotta respect everybody. You
Speaker 1: gotta respect more people on the court now. But now
Speaker 1: Dramond gone, you know they was able to do something.
Speaker 1: But now I might go to the game now on Thursday,
Speaker 1: because every time I've been to every championship game that
Speaker 1: Draymond played in, all the championship games, I've been there
Speaker 1: and they won, they were they lost when Michigan State
Speaker 1: North Carolina. But I've been, and I might go to
Speaker 1: this one just because I know they're gonna close it out,
Speaker 1: just because just so you could be there part of
Speaker 1: all right, So I like that. I love and hey,
Speaker 1: speaking to NBA, talked before we let everybody go TD,
Speaker 1: I said, I had another story last week. I was
Speaker 1: at the spot called the Nice Guy. Right. It's a
Speaker 1: little low key lounge to do a little little dinner
Speaker 1: and food. So I was in there at my boy
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush with chilling, and Russell Westbrook was in there.
Speaker 1: So I'm always cashable to like run up on somebody
Speaker 1: because I just don't know our cats act. And uh,
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, Russ is in here. He's
Speaker 1: a cool guy. You know he should probably say what's up.
Speaker 1: So I walked over to him. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: I want to take up too much of your time.
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I played in the league. He was like yea,
Speaker 1: he showed me up. And I was like, look, I
Speaker 1: gotta ask this question. If you played football, what position?
Speaker 1: Because you know, we always look at like the real
Speaker 1: athletic like slashers as like, oh he could have played ball,
Speaker 1: he could have played football. And so I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: He's like he thought about. He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was younger, I played running back,
Speaker 1: you know, but now, like you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to play offense. I think if I
Speaker 1: played right now, i'd be a safety. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like like a you know, like a big time hitter.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, because I let a hit. It was
Speaker 1: like like Cam Chancellor. He was like, yeah, like a
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor. So we'll leave this for another conversation. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when you look at some of
Speaker 1: these athletes and other sports, oftentimes we don't translate a
Speaker 1: basketball player to a football player. What's the rest book,
Speaker 1: It's one of those guys that could take his NBA
Speaker 1: jersey off and put on the NFL jersey. So that's
Speaker 1: my story. Mike's not buying it. I can tell. I
Speaker 1: got looking at the micro right now. I know Mike.
Speaker 1: I told I told story, and he was like camp.
Speaker 1: I'm like why. First of all, they I don't sound
Speaker 1: like he's so explosive, bron I don't sound like kind
Speaker 1: of do man. Second of all, second of all, he's
Speaker 1: at it's a lot easier for someone to go from
Speaker 1: a contact sport to me, just my opinion, it's a
Speaker 1: lot easier for a football player to go to basketball
Speaker 1: than a basketball player to come to this contact sport.
Speaker 1: This is a different animal over here, this is all
Speaker 1: right now, is a different animal. And then here talking
Speaker 1: about banging. He talking about getting in that box. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: if I seen Russell Westbrook, come on down in this box, dog,
Speaker 1: I'm taking his lunch money. And I don't give a
Speaker 1: damn how explosive Russell. I'm taking his lunch money. Helmet.
Speaker 1: They put that wood on you. They pro you don't
Speaker 1: believe that. You know what I know exactly exactly that's
Speaker 1: what I said, receiver DV or something like that. I
Speaker 1: think that's perfect for them. But you talk about getting
Speaker 1: down in that box, you're banging with cats outside. Dog.
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook a six four like. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: a small dude. I'm not talking about heights. Russell's NBA
Speaker 1: is a He's an NBA is Odell Backham, That's what
Speaker 1: it is. But I can see that, I can see
Speaker 1: him doing Odell Beckham type stuff on the outside. Don't
Speaker 1: come down, don't come down in that Robin wanted no
Speaker 1: part of that track. Robinson worked there for our former team. Yes, shaw,
Speaker 1: he did. The Robinson played eleven years, slammed up Champion.
Speaker 1: They passed on peak here on them, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if football they may pick it. Trust me, I know
Speaker 1: he's a cat that I can see Week four teen fifteen.
Speaker 1: He just want to do something to create a little
Speaker 1: buzz or whatever outside for a couple of weeks. That's
Speaker 1: saying a couple of games, playoffs already sold up. Hey, well, listen,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us a little man. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Hey man, anytime you in town, stop by at Mike
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it one hunting. I ain't never
Speaker 1: had anybody in the studio with two watches on, so like,
Speaker 1: that's pretty dope at different time zones. Ain't dropping knowledge.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, t d lest the altro step wealth right there, man, Okay,
Speaker 1: oh go ahead, And they were talking about give me
Speaker 1: a subject subject I don't know, and stop thinking. Let
Speaker 1: me wrap this water hydra to start drinking. Lamar. Appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming to That's real talk. We don't just talk
Speaker 1: that talk, man, This is real. Walk from the East
Speaker 1: coast to the west though I ain't trying to brag,
Speaker 1: but homie, this is the best show. Everybody want to
Speaker 1: talk about that? No, come on, man, out the cuts. Man.
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't just do it, at it
Speaker 1: and keep going. That's true. I forgot come on man,
Speaker 1: man talking about he stopped to be talented. Man, do
Speaker 1: your thing a head, Mike, you go, huh what. I
Speaker 1: don't rap, I don't wrap the thing. Then I don't
Speaker 1: think I just pick that. I just picked that thing. Man. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's the R and B Podcast. Man. I appreciate everybody.
Speaker 1: We'll see you all next week. Part