Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always
Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. That's our one and only
Speaker 1: super producer, Mr Max Williams. Hi, it's me Ben Boland. No, no,
Speaker 1: we both we we both watched Tiger King. We did.
Speaker 1: We gotta admit it. We both watched it. Wow. That
Speaker 1: was like peak pandemic television, you know. I mean it
Speaker 1: was the thing that sort of united all of us
Speaker 1: and solidarity, uh and bonded us together for the fight
Speaker 1: against the coronavirus. You know. Thank you Joe Exotic for
Speaker 1: giving us that gift. Apparently the new one is not
Speaker 1: so good. The the sequel, they just sort of like,
Speaker 1: you know, are mining desperately for like extra bits of
Speaker 1: stuff to to shove into a series. I have not
Speaker 1: bothered watching it, but no, I did like it. And
Speaker 1: I also I've got to give credit where credit is
Speaker 1: due to chase a story like that and to be
Speaker 1: around as it totally like happens before your very eyes.
Speaker 1: Like the filmmakers deserve credit for hanging out, you know
Speaker 1: and just kind of seeing this whole crazy story kind
Speaker 1: of you know unfold. Uh. And and and allowing us
Speaker 1: to you know, go along for the ride. Is it
Speaker 1: high art? You know, maybe not, but it's definitely pretty
Speaker 1: solid documentary filmmaking. Yeah, yeah, Greedon, it's a good point
Speaker 1: about the pandemic. Society was living vicariously through so many
Speaker 1: adventures of other people. You know. Uh, Subscriptions to streaming
Speaker 1: services were on the rise, where people were listening to
Speaker 1: podcast watching films, so on and so on. But one
Speaker 1: thing that we found, with the help of our longtime
Speaker 1: Paul Gabe Louisier, was that Joe Exotic was maybe not
Speaker 1: the first tiger king. In fact, the the first tiger king,
Speaker 1: we we could well say, was a guy named Charles
Speaker 1: jam Rock in the eighteen hundreds in London, which was
Speaker 1: a very very different London from the London you'll see
Speaker 1: in the two thousand's very much was. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you're still going to see the high streets
Speaker 1: and the cobblestones and all of that good stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: London is a town that prides itself in its history.
Speaker 1: There were a lot more wild exotic animals just kind
Speaker 1: of around. Uh, and that was thanks in part uh
Speaker 1: if not, well, now let's just let's not give him
Speaker 1: fall the credit. But it was thanks in part to
Speaker 1: Charles jam Rock, who's the coolest name in the exotic
Speaker 1: animal trade if you ask me, spelled j A M
Speaker 1: R A c H. He was a very, very sought
Speaker 1: after wild animal dealer. He was known throughout the world
Speaker 1: and he had a very very uh a list kind
Speaker 1: of clientele that he catered to. He had agents all
Speaker 1: over the world that would get him exactly what he needed,
Speaker 1: be at a panther, a prized panther, puma, or some
Speaker 1: other animal that starts with a pie, since we're doing
Speaker 1: the whole alliteration thing, a parrot. They were very into
Speaker 1: with the mccaus been. That was a very sought after
Speaker 1: exotic pet um and it was all about class and status.
Speaker 1: These pets were very expensive to purchase, very expensive to
Speaker 1: feed and maintain, and very expensive and dangerous to house
Speaker 1: and keep them from, you know, like malling the housekeeper.
Speaker 1: But that happened a lot too. I got a jump
Speaker 1: in air and to ask, actually, couldn't get you a
Speaker 1: porpoise to keep along with this piece thing? Could you
Speaker 1: get a porpoise? A good question? Porpoises? Uh, yeah, we're porpoises.
Speaker 1: Popular in this period. Let's go, he could get you
Speaker 1: a porpoise on purpose. I'm sure if you if you
Speaker 1: had to he he was. He was probably into porpoises
Speaker 1: for profit, if that was a possibility. Okay, done with
Speaker 1: the piece. So this this is weird because this coincides
Speaker 1: with an earlier stuff they don't want you to know episode.
Speaker 1: We did a while back on allegations of cryptids of
Speaker 1: large cats attacking people in modern day UK, But back
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds, just as you described, there were
Speaker 1: quite a few very real, very dangerous large cats. One
Speaker 1: example that comes to us from our pals at Mental
Speaker 1: Flaws is how on October eighteen fifty seven, this kid
Speaker 1: was just walking down the street in London's East End
Speaker 1: when he was attacked by a tiger that had escaped
Speaker 1: its cage. The tiger snatched up the kid like put
Speaker 1: him in its jaws and ran off with him down
Speaker 1: the street. Luckily, the kids survived, the tiger survived, and
Speaker 1: the guy who rescued the boy survived, which was convenient
Speaker 1: for the rescuer because the rescuer also owned this tiger.
Speaker 1: It was it was being delivered to a shop owned
Speaker 1: by Charles jam Rock and as as you had established earlier,
Speaker 1: he was at the very least one of the top
Speaker 1: wild animal dealers in the world, quite possibly in the world.
Speaker 1: He had this network of people all around the planet
Speaker 1: that would help him get quote unquote exotic animals to London,
Speaker 1: and London, as we'll find, had had a long standing
Speaker 1: um fascination with all these kinds of creatures that appeared
Speaker 1: in other parts of the world. And this is this
Speaker 1: is so weird. Like, if you've been to London, you know,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things you can complain about.
Speaker 1: It's got some of the world's worst traffic. Things can
Speaker 1: be more expensive than a lot of people are used to.
Speaker 1: But if you walk down like a high street now,
Speaker 1: of the many certaing you might have, one of them
Speaker 1: won't be Will a jaguar attack me? Is today the
Speaker 1: day that it's tiger gets my foot be a pretty
Speaker 1: poetic way to go. But no, no, it definitely would
Speaker 1: not be something I would sign up for, especially given
Speaker 1: those rapacious prices of of lodging and meals and all
Speaker 1: of that. Um. But I I sort of, I said,
Speaker 1: I walked it back already, but I'm just gonna walk
Speaker 1: it back one step further, Charles jam Rock was definitely
Speaker 1: one of the most noteworthy wild animal dealers in the world,
Speaker 1: like you said, and and you know, cater to a
Speaker 1: very very very high end clientele. But there had been
Speaker 1: a fascination, a long standing fascination with exotic animals in
Speaker 1: London long before he hit the scene. There was a
Speaker 1: wild animal menagerie uh in the Tower of London that
Speaker 1: was around since twelve thirty five. Um. And as we've
Speaker 1: talked about in stories of of American presidents and their
Speaker 1: weird pets and stuff. Sometimes, uh, these animals are given
Speaker 1: as like political gift, you know, as a sign of
Speaker 1: solidarity or layer is our most notable creature from our
Speaker 1: land we present to you as a sign of our
Speaker 1: affection for you as a country and as a ruler.
Speaker 1: But jam Rock, Uh, he hit the scene in a
Speaker 1: moment that was really really really crucial, um because trade
Speaker 1: was beginning to open up. So was no longer all
Speaker 1: about just like having someone that was coming as an
Speaker 1: ambassador an emissary bringing you a gift. Now there were
Speaker 1: all these trade routes that were open, and essentially a
Speaker 1: business sprung up out of this whole fascination. It was
Speaker 1: quite an industry in the late eighteenth century noises from
Speaker 1: big animals, especially large cats around the Exeter or Strange area.
Speaker 1: We're just a normal part of city background noise, the
Speaker 1: way you would hear horns honking or people saying well
Speaker 1: gonna you know whatever the UK version of that is.
Speaker 1: So there was even a writer, Charles Lamb who lived
Speaker 1: in Temple Lane and he wrote about how he liked
Speaker 1: to hear the big cats yelling when he walked home
Speaker 1: after a good night of drinking and partying. It's strange
Speaker 1: because you know, if you think about it, this makes
Speaker 1: a kind of sense. This is the age of the
Speaker 1: British Empire. It's the world's leading imperial power, and so
Speaker 1: it was seen as a benefit of living in the
Speaker 1: heart of this empire to have this at home, access
Speaker 1: to animals from around the world. And people made a
Speaker 1: lot of money doing this kind of thing. As you said,
Speaker 1: there's a guy named Joshua Brooks who had a menagerie
Speaker 1: they called it at the end of Tottenham Court Road,
Speaker 1: and his specialization you'll love this was exotic birds, but
Speaker 1: he also was into antelopes, lions, monkeys, porcupines. This is
Speaker 1: like a day the zoo for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You you feel like you're getting a taste of culture.
Speaker 1: You feel like you're living vicariously, right, You're having adventures
Speaker 1: by having the world brought to you totally. Um. And
Speaker 1: there is a fantastic book by Christopher Plum called Georgian
Speaker 1: Menagerie that you can get at the Guardians online bookshop
Speaker 1: if you go to Bookshop dot the Guardian dot com.
Speaker 1: And John Mullin over at the Guardian did a really
Speaker 1: great review, uh, and exerted a little bit from this
Speaker 1: book that talks about just this period in English history. Uh,
Speaker 1: Georgian England, Georgian London, right, Um. And there were everything
Speaker 1: from camels too, you know, um, rhinoceri whatever is it,
Speaker 1: rnacerest is, who cares? They were everywhere, as as the
Speaker 1: Guardian puts the lions on Tottenham Court Road, camels on
Speaker 1: the strand, England's capital once teamed with beasts. So this
Speaker 1: would have been a very very interesting time. Like you said, Bennett,
Speaker 1: it was sort of just par for the course, and
Speaker 1: folks were treating it more like to visit to the zoo.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a huge deal. It was just another attraction
Speaker 1: that London had to offer to entertain people. You know,
Speaker 1: there were even like traveling wild animal menagerie's that would
Speaker 1: go from town to town and then if you had
Speaker 1: enough money, you could actually buy your own tiger or bow,
Speaker 1: a constrictor or whatever you might tickle your fancy. So
Speaker 1: there were a ton of exotic pet shops already. By
Speaker 1: there were around a hundred and eighteen wild animal dealers
Speaker 1: with brick and mortar shops just in London, but you
Speaker 1: also have them all over the country in places like
Speaker 1: Bristol and Bath and Liverpool. Um, and you could, if
Speaker 1: you were so disposed financially and you know mentally, uh,
Speaker 1: to go into one of these and check out a
Speaker 1: bear or an elephant or a kangaroo. Perhaps. Um pretty
Speaker 1: wild if you think about it. And England kind of
Speaker 1: got this reputation as being the hub, the center that
Speaker 1: kind of like dumping off point for the US wild
Speaker 1: animal trade, whether they were alive or dead, because a
Speaker 1: lot of these animals would not survive the long journeys
Speaker 1: from their native lands, you know, to London to this hub.
Speaker 1: It is funny like we live here in Atlanta. Uh
Speaker 1: in Atlanta is a hub for a lot of things
Speaker 1: like that. Too. Unfortunately, one of those is human trafficking.
Speaker 1: That's because of our approximity to one of the biggest
Speaker 1: airports in the world. So this is the kind of
Speaker 1: thing you get when you sort of become this like
Speaker 1: crossroads of civilization. Yeah, this is Uh, there are a
Speaker 1: couple of points there that that I think we could
Speaker 1: highlight for context. Let's keep in mind, Uh, this is
Speaker 1: the same part of the world where people were flexing
Speaker 1: by renting pineapples. It's a very different cultural framework. Also,
Speaker 1: are we still in pointy shoes area or we passed
Speaker 1: that now? I think we're a little past pointy shoes.
Speaker 1: But pointy shoes are always around the corner because it's fashioned.
Speaker 1: So get ahead of it and get your own pointy
Speaker 1: shoes today. Ridiculous history branded always be closing. This is
Speaker 1: a good time for us to give some examples of
Speaker 1: these weird flexes. Consider the Earl of Shelburne, who later
Speaker 1: went on to become Prime Minister. This guy kept in
Speaker 1: orangutan and a tame leopard in his orang injury at
Speaker 1: Bowood House. We talked about oranges too. You were flexing
Speaker 1: by happy citrus fruits growing on your property. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: I can. I guess, is a leopard ever truly tame?
Speaker 1: I mean you can do it, yeah, just the it's
Speaker 1: the difference between taming and domesticating. So a single individual
Speaker 1: creature could be ostensibly tamed, but it would still very
Speaker 1: much be a wild animal. So it wouldn't all of
Speaker 1: a sudden be like you have a uh, spotted version
Speaker 1: of Lassie. If that makes sense. Well, I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm getting at is we're going to see in some
Speaker 1: of these stories there is the perception of having a
Speaker 1: tame animal, and then you know, when you maybe poker
Speaker 1: product or pushed a little too far, does that tame
Speaker 1: element kind of drop off and then that sort of
Speaker 1: refers back to its natural state of wildness. It can, yeah,
Speaker 1: because taming. Think of it as like human familiarization with
Speaker 1: humans or with often with like a couple of particular humans,
Speaker 1: and you know, you'll be seen as as a peer
Speaker 1: or or maybe even you'll be seen as an authoritarian
Speaker 1: or parent figure, but there's still very much wild wild animals.
Speaker 1: And I love I love the point about orangutanks because
Speaker 1: they're so intelligent. In fact, just recently I learned there
Speaker 1: was a long standing myth in Um. It's long standing
Speaker 1: myth in some very specific region where orangutanks occur, where
Speaker 1: the people have always believed that orangutanks can talk. They've
Speaker 1: just decided not to let humans know because they don't
Speaker 1: want to be put to work. And there's some great
Speaker 1: meme I keep picturing. It sounds so realistic of like
Speaker 1: a bunch of orangutangs hanging out, even though they're kind
Speaker 1: of solitary creatures, hanging out, shooting the breeze, maybe having
Speaker 1: a book club, and then they see some humans coming
Speaker 1: and they say, oh, ship, everybody shut up. They're gonna
Speaker 1: make us pay taxes. But they are, they are. They
Speaker 1: are very intelligent animals. And you know, Shelburne is um
Speaker 1: not an exception to the rule. Sir Robert Walpole had
Speaker 1: a pet flamingo. Sir Hans Sloan had a one eyed
Speaker 1: tame wolverine that would just sort of follow him around
Speaker 1: his house. He also had an apossum and porcupine. No
Speaker 1: word on how the three animals got along. I would
Speaker 1: imagine he kept them separate. Ben you pronounced the oh
Speaker 1: and possum. I know this is a very divisive thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's a person. I think that shows it
Speaker 1: speaks to people's personalities. Actually believe there's a difference between
Speaker 1: a possum and an opossum. It's it's a little confusing.
Speaker 1: They both refer to the Virginia possum in North America. Uh,
Speaker 1: the technical or scientific context I think is o possum.
Speaker 1: But then if you go to Bob Vila dot com,
Speaker 1: which I did not think would enter the conversation ship today,
Speaker 1: Bob is telling me that one key difference is their tails.
Speaker 1: A possums tale is thick and furry. He says, thanks Bob,
Speaker 1: who knew who was such an expert? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess he got started in the possum game and then
Speaker 1: went on to the rest of his story career. So
Speaker 1: when we when we look at it trustworthy home advice,
Speaker 1: Bob field A possums and opossums. Uh yeah, let us
Speaker 1: know your your take on the possum apossum controversy. Queen Charlotte,
Speaker 1: that's another quick example. Wife to George three, she had
Speaker 1: an elephant, she had a couple of zebras in Buckingham Palace,
Speaker 1: and she was one of the big champions of bringing
Speaker 1: exotic animals to London. And she had a collection of
Speaker 1: the first living kangaroos seen in the area, which later
Speaker 1: led to a kangaroo collecting mania in the seventeen nineties.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, and she would give kangaroo babies Joey's
Speaker 1: to were fellow aristocrats who already had their own private menageries.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we've talked about this, but it
Speaker 1: turns out that the pouch on mama kangaroos that the
Speaker 1: little Joey's hang out in, it's not just a cute,
Speaker 1: little warm, dry place. It's actually full of like slimy,
Speaker 1: amniotic fluid type stuff. It is very gross. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of unhelpful and fascinating kangaroo facts which we
Speaker 1: don't we don't need to get here, but all I'm
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm saying that is to point out that, yes, no,
Speaker 1: you are, you are correct. It is it is not
Speaker 1: a like a cozy It's not like that cozy little
Speaker 1: side pocket you get on some jenes. It tot or
Speaker 1: it would be if that was filled with snut when
Speaker 1: you bought it. Absolutely absolutely spot on. So I mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier the idea of live and dead animals being a
Speaker 1: part of this trade. Um the dead animals were just
Speaker 1: as important as the live, and in fact that those
Speaker 1: are the ones we still think of today. That kind
Speaker 1: of codify Britain's kind of empire building influence across the planet.
Speaker 1: You know, the idea of like huntsmen or like some
Speaker 1: like moneyed British royal or business person in their lodge.
Speaker 1: You know, with all these severed taxidermy heads of different
Speaker 1: animals they killed, um, you know, on safari or whatever.
Speaker 1: This is almost a stereotypical image of imperialism. If you
Speaker 1: think about during the reign of Queen Victoria, there was
Speaker 1: an Indian based taxidermy company uh called Van ingen and
Speaker 1: van ingen Um that stuffed close to forty three thousand
Speaker 1: wild animals, including tigers and leopards and more between nineteen
Speaker 1: hundred and uh nineteen fifty. So this is like well
Speaker 1: beyond the era that we're specifically discussing today, but just
Speaker 1: so you know how far this stuff goes. And this
Speaker 1: was to supply the European and Indian demands for these
Speaker 1: types of trophies that we're talking about, uh, and they
Speaker 1: would you know, travel across the globe to you know,
Speaker 1: get these specimens and then you know, stuff and mount them.
Speaker 1: Um to Filippo's trophy type rooms that we're talking about. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: And these animals weren't always just for show. Turtle feast
Speaker 1: had a became a really popular fad in the city
Speaker 1: of London. Like it wasn't a respectable social dinner unless
Speaker 1: there was freshly prepared turtle. And this is one this
Speaker 1: is one of the most pretentious things. This bothers me
Speaker 1: because I like this animal. Eventually, at some point the
Speaker 1: most well to do with aristocrats could have must have
Speaker 1: their wigs dressed with bear grease and only bear grease,
Speaker 1: and thousands of barrels of bear grease came from Arkansas
Speaker 1: and this almost led to the extinction of bears in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Bears from Russia were fattened up and potential customers would
Speaker 1: sometimes travel to witness the removal of fat from the
Speaker 1: bear corpse is a guarantee they weren't getting swindled with
Speaker 1: pig fat. This like this gets into some gross territory.
Speaker 1: I think we should also note, for some foreshadowing here
Speaker 1: that um, this did not come without cost for the
Speaker 1: common people. The tiger that's just out wandering the streets
Speaker 1: of London isn't gonna say, hey, I am gonna attack
Speaker 1: the people who brought me here. They're just you know,
Speaker 1: all humans are on the menu. So you can see
Speaker 1: stories of panthers tearing off women's arms. You can see
Speaker 1: stories of people getting their clothing attacked when they got
Speaker 1: too close to a creature in a menagerie. Uh. There's
Speaker 1: also a guy named well, a lion named Wallace the
Speaker 1: Lion in the eighteen twenties who was famous for tearing
Speaker 1: the hands and other limbs off three people on several
Speaker 1: different occasions. He actually went to Derby. He escaped in
Speaker 1: Derbyshire rather and killed a guy one time, but he
Speaker 1: was not put down. It was returned to captivity because
Speaker 1: they had already been so much investment in these creatures,
Speaker 1: and indeed they became more successful, more profitable when they
Speaker 1: had a bloody story in their past. Right now, you're
Speaker 1: not seeing a regular lion, You're seeing a man eater. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I love you mentioned Queen Victoria because
Speaker 1: during her reign there was this explosion and construction of
Speaker 1: all kinds of venues for seeing exotic animals private as
Speaker 1: well as available to the public. Like zoos today, some
Speaker 1: of it had ties to more of a scientific bent,
Speaker 1: you know, like we are learning more about the natural world,
Speaker 1: which is a noble thing to do. Others were definitely
Speaker 1: more kind of like a Barnum and Bailey type circus acts,
Speaker 1: you know. So here's the other thing. This trade was unregulated.
Speaker 1: All you needed to have was this scratch the starting capital. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's true that the very first what we would call
Speaker 1: animal welfare laws had been passed, and there were people saying, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we're going too far with the fur trade. A
Speaker 1: lot of these animals are dying in transport, but that's
Speaker 1: not something a lot of people wanted to hear. They
Speaker 1: were more interested in having their turtle soup their tigers.
Speaker 1: And there there bear grease wigs, which is still weird
Speaker 1: to me that that was the like, of all the
Speaker 1: things you could do with a bear, that's that's the
Speaker 1: thing you want to brag about. So it's like some
Speaker 1: really good grease man. I mean, what do you want?
Speaker 1: You know, you when you win, the heart wants what
Speaker 1: the heart wants, I guess so, and so does the wig.
Speaker 1: So at this point, at this point, I believe it's
Speaker 1: time for us to introduce Charles jam Rock you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny you were mentioning this off air. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure that we have some restaurants in Atlanta who are
Speaker 1: named after Charles jam Rock. I don't know. They're named
Speaker 1: after him. That spelled j A M R O c K,
Speaker 1: which to me, I don't know. I think of like reggae.
Speaker 1: Mu sick is like like roots rock reggae, you know,
Speaker 1: like jam with jam and you know all that, like
Speaker 1: that's a Bob Marley song and all of that, the whalers.
Speaker 1: So the idea of jam rock to me seems like
Speaker 1: a very reggae kind of concept because these are in
Speaker 1: fact Jamaican restaurants that were talking about. But yeah, Charles
Speaker 1: jam Rock was not Jamaican at all. He was German heritage.
Speaker 1: He was born in Hamburg, Germany, in eighteen fifteen as
Speaker 1: Charles Christian jam Rock. That's my middle name actually, And
Speaker 1: he went on to become a pre eminent dealer, as
Speaker 1: we mentioned, the top of a wild and exotic creatures,
Speaker 1: everything from birds to you know, four legged guys, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever was in demand, he could get you one wabat's Yeah,
Speaker 1: he very much. So we'll get to that. And he
Speaker 1: actually got the help of his father to establish this
Speaker 1: vast trading network supplying to Zoo's menagerie, circuses, museums. Anyone
Speaker 1: that was in need of a wild preacher, dead or alive,
Speaker 1: he had their back. This was all during nineteenth century Europe,
Speaker 1: and even the famous English poet Dante, not the not
Speaker 1: Dante allegory, but the British poet Dante Gabrielle Rosetti. Um,
Speaker 1: he bought a wombat, his beloved pet wombat, from our
Speaker 1: guy jam Rock. You gotta have one. A wombat is
Speaker 1: like the It's like old Yeller for poets. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta have what I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: step back because the reason was setting up the Jamaican
Speaker 1: restaurant joke here, which I'm gonna I'm gonna keep. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna make that my reality. Jam jam Rock is
Speaker 1: spelled J A M R A C H. And made
Speaker 1: the uh. After looking through some pronunciation possibilities, I just
Speaker 1: decided to say jam Rock as well. For this it
Speaker 1: sounds schooler. If you are a descendant of old C. C.
Speaker 1: J himself and you have a preferred pronunciation, that's fine,
Speaker 1: please right in love to hear it. But but this
Speaker 1: guy followed. Like he said, he followed in his dad's footsteps,
Speaker 1: and it made sense to his father is able to
Speaker 1: help him because his father knew the trade, the trade rights.
Speaker 1: He was very much set up to be that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had insider information. He knew what was coming off
Speaker 1: the boats and often knew when because he was a
Speaker 1: harbor master, so he had the connects. In eighteen thirty nine,
Speaker 1: Charles his brother Anton, moves to London to start his
Speaker 1: own animal trade business, following in dear Old DAWs footsteps.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately Anton passes away very soon after he arrives,
Speaker 1: and this is an opportunity for Charles to take over
Speaker 1: the business. After charles father expires in eighteen forty, there's
Speaker 1: a tough series of years for Charles. Uh he moves
Speaker 1: to London himself. He takes over. He opens an exotic
Speaker 1: pet store and a museum of natural history called jam
Speaker 1: Rocks Animal Emporium. I love it when people use the
Speaker 1: word emporium. I am such a sucker for the word emporium.
Speaker 1: I've been in so many tourist traps in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere, America just because someone slapped emporium on their
Speaker 1: you know, on their kitch store, So thank you emporiums uh.
Speaker 1: He also had a so he had the emporium on St.
Speaker 1: George Street. He had another outfit, a menagerie on Bet Street.
Speaker 1: And there's a pretty great uh. There's a pretty great
Speaker 1: description of this from the Spectator in one where they
Speaker 1: say Mr Childs jam Rock the wild Beast banners. He's
Speaker 1: sometimes familiarly called never failed to have a large assortment
Speaker 1: of tigers and lines on hand. The passages between the
Speaker 1: two stories of cages would never and walk and walk
Speaker 1: down them was occasionally like running the gauntlet. So they're
Speaker 1: they're trying to sort of articulate the excitement, the endorphin rush,
Speaker 1: the thrill of danger people experience because the animals, without
Speaker 1: reading the whole quote right, the animals pause can reach people.
Speaker 1: This is not like a modern zoo. There's not like
Speaker 1: a pit and you know, a large fence. There's a cage.
Speaker 1: And so if you walk too slow, you know, as
Speaker 1: anybody like the three of us all have cats living
Speaker 1: with us. If you walk by just a regular house
Speaker 1: cat and it's feeling, you know, kind of in a
Speaker 1: punching mood, they'll just swat at you, give you a swat,
Speaker 1: give you a good old swat, and if you get
Speaker 1: a little claw that it connects, you might end up
Speaker 1: with a slice. Uh. And this is a you know,
Speaker 1: significantly smaller cat than what we would be dealing with
Speaker 1: in these emporiums or or Mr jam Rocks emporium. So
Speaker 1: if you call one of those wipes, it might like
Speaker 1: you know, lose you a limb or the very least,
Speaker 1: you know, give you a serious injury you Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, this is I can see this because this
Speaker 1: is kind of embarrassing. That's why I found out cat
Speaker 1: scratch fever is a real thing, not just the ted
Speaker 1: nugent song. I actually one time got cat scratch fever
Speaker 1: as a kid. Isn't it like a like a pair
Speaker 1: a site almost It makes you like do bow to
Speaker 1: the will of your feline masters. That's toxoplasmosis. Cat scratch fever.
Speaker 1: Is cat scratch fever? Is you bacterial infection? And if
Speaker 1: you if a cat bites you or scratches you. All
Speaker 1: I remember is I got a fever and then I
Speaker 1: had like, uh swollen area of my body. But I
Speaker 1: got over it. I survived no toxoplasmosis, which I would
Speaker 1: always love to avoid. But people weren't worried about toxoplasmosis.
Speaker 1: They probably weren't too worried about cat scratch fever. They
Speaker 1: wanted the thrill of feeling like they had escaped the
Speaker 1: jaguar or a tiger. And so jam Rock is blowing up.
Speaker 1: He's starting to be known as sort of world class
Speaker 1: in the business, which he was, and more and more
Speaker 1: people very well to do. People started to come to
Speaker 1: him and say things like, misso, jam Rock, I'm follow
Speaker 1: your career with great interest, and I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: own in Almadillo, And like literally they would say this.
Speaker 1: They would come to him and request specific animals and
Speaker 1: he would he would say, you know, I imagine we
Speaker 1: can work something out. And people would buy elephants and
Speaker 1: like you said, parakeets and cause all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: from him. He also started networking. It's funny man at
Speaker 1: our at our favorite local wing spot, and we shout
Speaker 1: out all the time, called the local one of the
Speaker 1: guys who works there, and I'm not gonna disclose his name.
Speaker 1: He has a world class meteorite collection, like museum level.
Speaker 1: And I was talking and I think you know the
Speaker 1: guy know And I was talking to him about I
Speaker 1: was like, how do you find these things? How does
Speaker 1: it work? And he has a network of dealers across
Speaker 1: the world, like when a meteorite falls, he knows the
Speaker 1: guys who get on the plane to find it, which
Speaker 1: is sort of like how jam Rock was with his
Speaker 1: network that you know, he pretty much inherited from his dad,
Speaker 1: I think, right, like he built upon it, but came
Speaker 1: from his dad. Oh totally. I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean. Even though this was very big in London,
Speaker 1: this whole exotic animal trade, it was probably a network
Speaker 1: of only a handful of top top players, of which
Speaker 1: jam Rock was like the a number one, And I
Speaker 1: think we said they were like a hundred and something
Speaker 1: dealers in London, which is a massive, massive metro area.
Speaker 1: So you know, he was kind of, uh, the top
Speaker 1: of the heap when it came to this relatively niche
Speaker 1: industry because if after all, you could only afford this
Speaker 1: if you were of a certain class, So this wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been something like you know, necessities like you know,
Speaker 1: food and grain and things like that, that would have
Speaker 1: obviously been on a much much larger scale. Um even
Speaker 1: as larger scales this was it was still only for
Speaker 1: a very select few. But the thing that I think
Speaker 1: is neat and probably one reason we still talk about
Speaker 1: this guy today, was because he started to develop all
Speaker 1: these relationships with these really important uh institutions in London
Speaker 1: like the Natural History Museum and the Zoological Gardens is
Speaker 1: now known as the London Zoo UM. So when he
Speaker 1: you know, would have overflow on his and his you
Speaker 1: know pens or his facilities or whatever, uh, he would
Speaker 1: essentially allow the Zoological Gardens to store these creatures for
Speaker 1: him and it would be almost like a trial basis
Speaker 1: where if the animals were a hit with you know,
Speaker 1: the spectators, then the zoo would actually buy it from him.
Speaker 1: So he had this kind of built in um relationship
Speaker 1: with those guys that would help him sort of clear
Speaker 1: some of his creatures out if if they were sticking
Speaker 1: around for too long. Yeah yeah, no audition process, Uh well,
Speaker 1: non consensual on the animals part. And you know a
Speaker 1: lot of these animals are from very different climates, so unfortunately,
Speaker 1: unless they were unless a lot of TLC was put
Speaker 1: into their diet, they wouldn't last long once they arrived.
Speaker 1: If they made it off the ship alive. And because
Speaker 1: of that rate of attrition. Because so many animals were
Speaker 1: dying in transit or within the first few weeks or
Speaker 1: months after arriving, jam Rock naturally developed that side hustle
Speaker 1: you were mentioning with taxidermy. He got more and more
Speaker 1: and more and more successful. We're talking waiting list for animals,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. People are kissing his keyst just to
Speaker 1: get on his good side and maybe jump the line
Speaker 1: a little bit. And in eighteen fifty seven, at the
Speaker 1: high point of his success, he gets his crown jewel,
Speaker 1: a fully grown Bengal tiger that came to England from
Speaker 1: the East Indies. This takes us to that morning we
Speaker 1: talked about the very top, the morning of October when
Speaker 1: the tiger and several other large felines by the way
Speaker 1: arrives at the Belt Street. Nagerie, whoa hold the phone?
Speaker 1: Hold the horses grabbed the tigers. This is a two parter.
Speaker 1: We have just gotten to the introduction of our main character,
Speaker 1: not our protagonist. I would argue, it's also Christmas, so
Speaker 1: give us a break. You know it's a two partner.
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