Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday, Am Tracy V.
Speaker 1: Wilson and I'm Holly Fry, and we had our Unearthed
Speaker 1: to close out the year. As this week's episodes, UM
Speaker 1: I wrote the vast majority of them before taking off
Speaker 1: work for the holidays, and uh, as I alluded to
Speaker 1: at the beginning of part one, when I made that plan,
Speaker 1: I really didn't think we had January third off as
Speaker 1: a company holiday. Once I found out that we had
Speaker 1: January third off as a company holiday, it was it
Speaker 1: was too late to revisit my schedule plan. And I
Speaker 1: also did not want to work on my free day
Speaker 1: off that I didn't know I had. So that is
Speaker 1: why I was going through all of my RSS stuff
Speaker 1: and more importantly, the things I emailed to myself over
Speaker 1: the break, because whenever I saw something that really grabbed
Speaker 1: my attention, I would sudden I would just emailed myself
Speaker 1: the news article to look at when I got back
Speaker 1: to work. Something I emailed myself that I did not
Speaker 1: put in is there was an article in The Skeptical
Speaker 1: Enquirer that named the person that the author believed was
Speaker 1: Roland Doe from the extras case, and I had originally
Speaker 1: typed up a thing to include in here, but I
Speaker 1: was checking with you, Holly, who researched that episode of
Speaker 1: the show, about whether this was actually new information. And
Speaker 1: it does not appear that it was, like it's got
Speaker 1: a lot of news coverage as though this was newly revealed.
Speaker 1: But when I went to like do some fact checking,
Speaker 1: I found a lot of stuff dating back to like
Speaker 1: five years ago, ten years ago and longer ago, naming
Speaker 1: the same person. Uh. I think you and I talked
Speaker 1: about it, and and you had not gotten into that
Speaker 1: specific in the Exorcist episode. Because this person still has
Speaker 1: living kin. This is a I mean a sensitive thing
Speaker 1: for a family. I would imagine we don't want to
Speaker 1: harm people with our podcast exactly. Um. And so when
Speaker 1: I realized that I took that part out something that
Speaker 1: I found, uh, real frustrating when I was doing the research. Um,
Speaker 1: We've had various things that we've talked about in the
Speaker 1: past few installments of Unearthed that have been work that
Speaker 1: has like confirmed Indigenous nations oral histories, with the indigenous
Speaker 1: nations themselves being part of the research involved in the research.
Speaker 1: And the the one that was about the catching salmon
Speaker 1: and and intentionally keeping only the male salmon and returning
Speaker 1: the females to the water, and how that had been
Speaker 1: really import and so maintaining the salmon populations. Brought up
Speaker 1: a conversation I had had with a friend of mine
Speaker 1: about how when Europeans arrived in North America, a lot
Speaker 1: of people were like, Wow, this is an amazing bountiful
Speaker 1: land full of bounty, and it that didn't randomly happen.
Speaker 1: That was because indigenous people had been stewarding the land
Speaker 1: and practicing husbandry and agriculture for all of that time beforehand. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it just it was a particular find that made
Speaker 1: me real frustrating, uh, because it it's just like one
Speaker 1: specific example of that whole pattern. Yeah, it's a good example,
Speaker 1: not in that it is a good happening, but it's
Speaker 1: a good example in that it it makes it very
Speaker 1: clear that quote that you included that I read really
Speaker 1: does put it in sharp contrast of this worked just
Speaker 1: fine and even very very successfully for a long time,
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, and you destroyed
Speaker 1: it in a hundred and fifty Like that's yeah, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's you can't get much clearer than that. No, And
Speaker 1: it's so relevant to so many things that we've talked
Speaker 1: about on the podcast recently in terms of previous installments
Speaker 1: of an Earth, when we've talked about practices that that
Speaker 1: had been used on the land of the water and
Speaker 1: the animals UM two be sustainable than then also things
Speaker 1: that were more directly about sort of the extraction and
Speaker 1: exploitation of the land, like the Iditar Bell versus Johndie
Speaker 1: Rockfeller episode kind of pulled all of that together. I
Speaker 1: enjoy working on these episodes. I've said that before working
Speaker 1: on it, getting of it done, and then taking two
Speaker 1: weeks off and jumping in Tuesday morning, I it was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know who wrote this. That happens to be
Speaker 1: on the time. I do feel compelled to tell you
Speaker 1: the story. You mentioned that you had not initially realized
Speaker 1: we were off on the third. UM many of our
Speaker 1: coworkers didn't realize that at all. And I had tweeted
Speaker 1: late Sunday night that the next day, the third, was
Speaker 1: a holiday, and we had several of our coworkers replied
Speaker 1: they were like, wait, we're off tomorrow. A bunch more
Speaker 1: had deemed me had been like, are we really off tomorrow?
Speaker 1: This wasn't secret information, it had been sent out, but
Speaker 1: I think it the link to our new holiday thing
Speaker 1: had happened late when a lot of people are left
Speaker 1: for the year, And yeah, I wonder how many people
Speaker 1: worked yesterday. Yeah, and because it because it fell on
Speaker 1: a weekend. I know there were a lot of people
Speaker 1: who normally have New Year's Day off as a holiday
Speaker 1: who didn't because it fell on a weekend. Uh. Like
Speaker 1: my spouse didn't have it as a holiday and took
Speaker 1: it as a day of vacation because he was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't get my holiday because it
Speaker 1: fell on the weekend. Um. So yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was definitely not secret. Just a lot of us missed
Speaker 1: it that we were Yeah. Yes, it just cracked me up. Um,
Speaker 1: here's when I was most excited. And it will surprise
Speaker 1: no one in all of our unearthed stuff. That fabulous
Speaker 1: find about how now the specific dates can be pinpointed
Speaker 1: of Dutch Golden Age paintings. Oh yeah with the Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I mean that's like an era of painting
Speaker 1: that I am in love with. Um, So of course
Speaker 1: I was like, what, I'm very excited. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember where I saw a bunch of Dutch Golden Age stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it was that time that we went to
Speaker 1: New Bedford, UM, while I was researching the Pallcuffee episode.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was where I feel like there
Speaker 1: was a Dutch Golden Age exhibit. UM like the maritime
Speaker 1: maritime subject matter. So yeah, yeah, there's a good amount
Speaker 1: of it at the met. The Louve of course, has
Speaker 1: everything you could ever want to look at. UM. I
Speaker 1: get completely lost in those paintings like that. Just the
Speaker 1: use of perspective in light is like magical for me.
Speaker 1: So that was very cool. I can't remember if that
Speaker 1: was an open access paper or not. If it was,
Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. You You can read it yourself. Coolest,
Speaker 1: the coolest. So uh, that concludes our Friday. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people in my life are sick right now,
Speaker 1: so many, so many. If you're sick right now, if
Speaker 1: people in your family you're sick, I really hope things
Speaker 1: are going as well as possible. I know this was
Speaker 1: an unexpected turn of events for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: so really, I sincerely hope everybody is doing as well
Speaker 1: as they can right now and whatever's happening on your weekend.
Speaker 1: I hope it is as good and RESTful as it
Speaker 1: possibly can be in these times. Uh. If you want
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