Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always
Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Uh. That's our one and
Speaker 1: only super producer, Mr Max Williams. They called me Ben.
Speaker 1: I have had my share of adventures, as have you, Noel.
Speaker 1: But this guy, this guy might have a speed by
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he's got a lot of
Speaker 1: people beat to the point where, at least in the
Speaker 1: headline of our research document, he is referred to as
Speaker 1: the most interesting man in the world, an honorific that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take lightly a stowing on somebody or having
Speaker 1: a get a stowe upon me. I would consider that
Speaker 1: to be quite a responsibility. The man, the interesting man,
Speaker 1: most interesting man potentially in question today is Peter uh Fresian.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Yeah, we're gonna go with Fraisian.
Speaker 1: What are you saying, Yeah, let's go with Freusan there. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was born Lorenz Peter Alfred Freusian, So even his
Speaker 1: name is super interesting. He's kind of starting on first
Speaker 1: base with that one. But but this what I love
Speaker 1: about this story, Knowll, is that oftentimes we find that
Speaker 1: historical heroes are problematic in some way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. There are problems with Mother Teresa, there are
Speaker 1: problems with so many folks who were lauded, especially as
Speaker 1: explorers during the age of European expansion. But our boy
Speaker 1: Pete is surprisingly progressive. His legacy has aged incredibly well.
Speaker 1: And spoiler, there is one part of this story that
Speaker 1: all three of us are very excited for. And this
Speaker 1: is kind of a reward for us. But maybe maybe
Speaker 1: before we get to the part that really drew us,
Speaker 1: because we're so uh, we're three very mature guys. Is uh,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we start with just who this giant of
Speaker 1: a man was, and it was pretty much a giant
Speaker 1: the ma tourists. That's that's what we are. I will
Speaker 1: say that the part that you're alluding to, Ben, when
Speaker 1: I first read it, I had to do a double
Speaker 1: take and make sure that my brain was in fact
Speaker 1: processing words correctly. I did end up finding out that
Speaker 1: that it was in fact, and then I ate a
Speaker 1: cookie to reward myself for being a cognizant human being.
Speaker 1: I watched a video on this. I was watching it
Speaker 1: while I was eating. I made some muscles and fries
Speaker 1: for lunch today, guys. Uh, so that's a very hoity
Speaker 1: toity lunch. I love it. It was, you know, it's
Speaker 1: I didn't say they were good, you know, you just
Speaker 1: it's it's had the cheap end. Muscles are pretty affordable
Speaker 1: at your local grocery store. Have you ever heard someone
Speaker 1: describe and off muscle as tasting quote Horsey, Yes, actually
Speaker 1: I have. Where did you hear that? I think my
Speaker 1: mom said it. But it makes sense because it sort
Speaker 1: of tastes the way horse poop smells yep, yep, and
Speaker 1: smell and taste are intertwined. So just remember whenever you
Speaker 1: spell something, you're actually tasting it a little bit too. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's gonna change your position on farts. But that's a
Speaker 1: great way to set up set up where we're going.
Speaker 1: So so, yes, this guy Pete is actually a tremendously
Speaker 1: cool person. He's he's not born into privilege. He is
Speaker 1: when we say he's a giant, he's a giant in
Speaker 1: many ways at the end of his life, but in
Speaker 1: the beginning, he's He's like six and a half feet tall,
Speaker 1: He's got a mountain Man beer for most of his
Speaker 1: adult life and housed within his beard clearly as his superpowers.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that a little later too. Oh yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Oh that's why I brought off the muscles, because I
Speaker 1: was eating those while his watch in a video about
Speaker 1: this pivotal moment we're gonna explore. And you guys know,
Speaker 1: I have a strong stomach. I'm a walking garbage can
Speaker 1: when it comes to food. But even I had to
Speaker 1: stop for a second and it it was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take a quick walk. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: take a walk real quick. Not exactly, but definitely required
Speaker 1: a moment of reflection. Oh A hundred percent. A hundred percent,
Speaker 1: my friends. So another thing you might recognize, folks, is
Speaker 1: that often throughout history, when you hear stories of people
Speaker 1: who are explorers, people who are having all these adventures
Speaker 1: and these remote corners of the world, they often come
Speaker 1: from immense privilege, right they are the scion of royalty
Speaker 1: or aristocracy. Not so with Pete. His dad was a businessman,
Speaker 1: um and you know, they're like pretty squarely middle class.
Speaker 1: But like most parents, he wants his kid to rise
Speaker 1: to a better social station. So Pete's dad makes him
Speaker 1: matriculate to the University of Copenhagen, where he starts studying medicine,
Speaker 1: and he is board to tears. He is because he
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's got his nose in the book.
Speaker 1: But yet he's he's hearing the siren call of the
Speaker 1: wild wafting in on the you know, the breeze. Um
Speaker 1: if the window happened to be open at the time. Um.
Speaker 1: But he cannot resist that call, can't he ben No, No,
Speaker 1: it's almost like that. Uh, it's similar in some ways
Speaker 1: the call of the wild that he's feeling to a
Speaker 1: poem by John Masefield called Sea Fever, where he says
Speaker 1: he's talking about the sea, and he says it's a
Speaker 1: wild called and clear call that may not be denied.
Speaker 1: So it's a wonderful little poem. I do recommend it
Speaker 1: if you, if you're into that kind of innocuous poetry.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he can't deny it. He says, all right,
Speaker 1: I need some fast cars, dangerous fire and knives to
Speaker 1: quote as up rock. So he drops out of the
Speaker 1: University Copenhagen. He's twenty years old when he becomes an explorer.
Speaker 1: He first lights out for Greenland. He's working as a
Speaker 1: stoker on a steamship and I'm correct me if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong here, But nol aren't those aren't those the people
Speaker 1: who like stoked the coals or the fuel to power
Speaker 1: the steamship. Yeah, it has to be right. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there's actually a there's a Korean American thriller
Speaker 1: movie directed by I believe what Chan park Uh called
Speaker 1: Stoker that has Nicole Kidman in it. I think it's
Speaker 1: like his American English language debut. But I think that's
Speaker 1: a family name in the in the movie. And then
Speaker 1: I also know Stroker. There's a ween song called Stroker
Speaker 1: Ace that is about a race car driver. I think
Speaker 1: that might even be a movie. Um, but no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not super familiar with the word Stoker. But if
Speaker 1: you know we use our context clues, I think you're
Speaker 1: probably pretty close to the mark there. Man, Yes, it's
Speaker 1: someone attends the boiler at least, right, it's gotta be.
Speaker 1: I got someone right here from the Royal Navy. Actually,
Speaker 1: the Royal Navy used the rank structure ordinary Stoker, Stoker,
Speaker 1: leading Stoker, Stoker, petty officer in chief Stoker. Their job
Speaker 1: was to just stoke the coals and move them around. Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta think about it. I mean, that's a crucial job.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't really just half asked that one.
Speaker 1: That sounds like maybe a ridiculous number of layers to
Speaker 1: that position, but I think it makes sense. It's literally
Speaker 1: the heart of the vessel. Yeah, and it's a dangerous
Speaker 1: place to be, so without being too uh sitister about it,
Speaker 1: you probably want to have a backup guy in case
Speaker 1: something goes wrong with the other guys other people. Uh So,
Speaker 1: at this point we know that he is already well
Speaker 1: on the way to becoming a world class explorer. But
Speaker 1: for him, it's just that the inside situation was intolerable
Speaker 1: and funny enough, Why did he choose Greenland? It's because
Speaker 1: he saw a student play when he was in school
Speaker 1: about exploring the polar reaches. And as soon as he
Speaker 1: saw this student play, which is funny because Max, you
Speaker 1: and I were just talking about community theater before this
Speaker 1: four year old on air um because of this play
Speaker 1: he saw, he had this epiphany, this lightning strike moment,
Speaker 1: and he thought, it is my life's calling to explore
Speaker 1: the remote reaches of the Octic. And you know, that
Speaker 1: may have just been an impulse decision, but he stuck
Speaker 1: with it and for thirty more years he would explore
Speaker 1: some of the most dangerous, coldest parts of the world.
Speaker 1: What a cool thing, What a cool epiphany, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we all wonder when that aha moment is
Speaker 1: or like, I know what I want to be. Doesn't
Speaker 1: always happen like that for everybody. It certainly didn't happen
Speaker 1: for me. I wanted to be a rock star, but
Speaker 1: I have to suttle for podcaster and uh and the
Speaker 1: hobbyist musicians. But it's pretty cool. And at an early
Speaker 1: age you kind of realize something very specific and kind
Speaker 1: of obscure and stuff that most people wouldn't really gravitate
Speaker 1: towards as like your thing. Yeah, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's it's not ever too late to do the things
Speaker 1: you want to do, so you still still got a
Speaker 1: path of rock star ahead of you if you wish. Man, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I I do have three distinct records
Speaker 1: in the works right now. Uh, hopefully one of them
Speaker 1: will one day see the light of the day and
Speaker 1: then my rock star dreams will come true. That's me
Speaker 1: with novels, man, I feel you. Oh, and sketch comedy.
Speaker 1: I've got some sketch comedy stuff. I'm working on but um,
Speaker 1: but we're doing all right as as podcasters. You know,
Speaker 1: we actually we do make a living from it. Um.
Speaker 1: And and this is, by the way, gonna give me
Speaker 1: another opportunity to ask you guys to join me on
Speaker 1: that Russian icebreaker, the fifty let pobity. Well, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see the poboty. It's I mispronounced it,
Speaker 1: but it's the Russian translations fifty years of victory. Oh,
Speaker 1: but you pronounced that the way that uh, I believe
Speaker 1: Bostonites say that you should pronounce peabody is pbody. I
Speaker 1: appreciated that. No, but it's true. Man like this guy
Speaker 1: knew what he wanted and he went out and got it. Like, uh,
Speaker 1: every every step that he took from that point on
Speaker 1: was a step towards that exploration. Yeah, and there he
Speaker 1: goes with a very important friend of his, guy named
Speaker 1: Nood Rasmussen. Noud Rasmussen was also a Greenland, Greenland, Danish
Speaker 1: polar explorer anthropologist. He was the first European across the
Speaker 1: Northwest Passage via dog sled. Uh. He is well known
Speaker 1: amongst the first nations Inuit populations Greenland and Denmark. He
Speaker 1: has a title that's stuck out to me that I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a aached very well. But for a
Speaker 1: long time he was known as, quote, the father of eschimology.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know that was a a thing, but uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's also sometimes called innuitology. So he'll be he'll
Speaker 1: be important later. So these these guys nineteen o six,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's Pete's first time out in this expedition
Speaker 1: of Greenland, and he and Nood sail from Dedmark and
Speaker 1: they their whole goal is, we're gonna go as far
Speaker 1: north as possible until the ice stops our ship, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get on our dog sleds. And then
Speaker 1: they got on their dog sleds and they just made
Speaker 1: off for the wild. How beautiful is that they learned
Speaker 1: Inuit languages, they went on hunting expeditions. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the kind of adventure that a lot of people
Speaker 1: would have paid money for, you know, h yeah, these
Speaker 1: were the Thul expeditions, right, So yeah, this inspires what
Speaker 1: is known as the Thule expeditions. And they were learning
Speaker 1: about a way of life, a very ancient way of
Speaker 1: life that was completely alien in many ways. To life
Speaker 1: in Europe. Uh. The people, the communities they encountered were
Speaker 1: hunting walrus's, whales, seals, polar bears. This is like the
Speaker 1: stuff you would see depicted in old school pulp novels
Speaker 1: of adventure. Uh. But imagine if you are part of
Speaker 1: the population here, part of the Inuit population the far North.
Speaker 1: You see this guy wrapped up in you know, furs
Speaker 1: and stuff, with this kind of ant, grateful, dead zz
Speaker 1: top beard, and he's goliath level to you. He's six
Speaker 1: seven or you know, we say six and a half
Speaker 1: six seven, and you see him from a distance, right
Speaker 1: in a very flat horizon. So in my head, like
Speaker 1: they had already prepared to be visited by this guy
Speaker 1: because they saw him coming like three days before he
Speaker 1: actually made it on the horizon because he's so tall. Eventually,
Speaker 1: he earned rep for taking down polar bears and got
Speaker 1: some local respect because he killed a polar bear and
Speaker 1: made it into made its tied into a coat. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they're they're out here adventuring for several years before
Speaker 1: they establish this trading post in Cape York, Greenland. That's
Speaker 1: where the ful stuff comes in. They named it ful
Speaker 1: But what is uh, there's some history behind the word ful, right,
Speaker 1: it's pretty neat the ultimate ful or the ultimate ful
Speaker 1: rather um, a medieval cartographer would use this term to
Speaker 1: refer to places beyond the borders of the known world. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, oftentimes it probably would be parts of those
Speaker 1: old maps where they'd be like sea monsters and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, on the outskirts of the maps and all that.
Speaker 1: There's a really cool article by Katie Serenam on all
Speaker 1: That is Interesting dot com about Peter Freshen the real
Speaker 1: most interesting man in the world. Highly recommend checking that
Speaker 1: one up. But yeah, I mean he was captivated by
Speaker 1: that kind of mythology I think, or at the very
Speaker 1: least that kind of pushing those kind of bounds, you know,
Speaker 1: going where no man has gone before or whatever, like
Speaker 1: Star Trek. I was just I was watching Max's face
Speaker 1: as you say that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's on the mark. His life was not perfect, very
Speaker 1: few lives are. He did end up getting married three times.
Speaker 1: His first marriage occurs when he falls in love with
Speaker 1: someone he meets in the Innuit community in nineteen eleven.
Speaker 1: Peter ends up marrying a woman from an Innuit community.
Speaker 1: Her name is Maku Paluke and had two children with her.
Speaker 1: Both of them have epic names. The daughter's name is
Speaker 1: people look jet Tuko Mingua, Casa Palika Hagar. Oh my goodness, Ben,
Speaker 1: that was very well done. I congratulate you on that pronunciation.
Speaker 1: If he got wrong, don't even let us know because
Speaker 1: it was just too good enough. We we don't any
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear the other one. We don't
Speaker 1: want to hear. Unfortunately, she did pass away during the
Speaker 1: Spanish flu epidemic, of which was uh, pretty horrific for like,
Speaker 1: you know, the country. Um, there was a Christian church
Speaker 1: in the area that, because she was Inuit, wouldn't allow
Speaker 1: her a burial, so fruition and proper you know, adventurer
Speaker 1: don't take no for an answer kind of fashion, decided
Speaker 1: to bury her himself. Oh yeah, this is a badass
Speaker 1: story too, because okay, she passes away. Uh, he begs
Speaker 1: the church to let him bury his wife. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he's a very respectable human request And when
Speaker 1: they when they give him the stone wall and the
Speaker 1: hard pass, he doesn't just bury her himself. He waits
Speaker 1: until after dark, in the dead at night, he breaks
Speaker 1: into the churchyard and then by himself like digs the
Speaker 1: grave and buries her and then leaves because I think,
Speaker 1: and part of this is lost to history, but I
Speaker 1: think his calculus was, what are they going to do?
Speaker 1: Digg her up? You know what I mean? So he
Speaker 1: that's one badass thing he did, and just one of many.
Speaker 1: I do want to give Max and do it to
Speaker 1: give the shout out there. Yes, he had two children
Speaker 1: with with his first wife. We attempted the name of
Speaker 1: the daughter. Also had a son, and the first names
Speaker 1: of the sun were Maquassack. But the last one is
Speaker 1: a doozy for us, and I don't know if we
Speaker 1: should attempt it unless you wanna, you want to give
Speaker 1: it a triano. Oh man, let me give it a whirl.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's that's that's why I went to
Speaker 1: the daughter. All right, here we go, all right, like,
Speaker 1: are we go? Let's say we have a drum roll please, Max,
Speaker 1: and then you can have a sad trombone. Not yet, yeah,
Speaker 1: half the half. Yeah, I think I should go preemptive
Speaker 1: on this one. All right, I'm gonna do it really slowly,
Speaker 1: and we're doing this in a respectful way. Folks. It
Speaker 1: is a beautiful name. I'm going to try my best.
Speaker 1: Agama quassuk tororonguapaluk Okay, yeah, now three times fast. Now
Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting so so After this, after this, uh,
Speaker 1: disaster ends his first marriage, a very love filled marriage.
Speaker 1: Pete returns to Denmark. He marries his second wife, a
Speaker 1: Danish woman named Magdalene Vang Lawrence in in and Uh
Speaker 1: he's moving up in the world because miss Lawrenson does
Speaker 1: come from a place of privilege. Her father is the
Speaker 1: director of Denmark's national bank. Her family owns the magazine
Speaker 1: Uda of Hay that Freutsch will ultimately go on to
Speaker 1: run himself. And her parents were not super hoydi toy de.
Speaker 1: They absolutely adored Pete. They liked him so much that
Speaker 1: they started that magazine for him. It is the longest
Speaker 1: running magazine in the history of Denmark. It is still
Speaker 1: around today as far as we know. And their marriage
Speaker 1: lasted about twenty years. But we have to we have
Speaker 1: to say, you know, relationships can be a rocky road
Speaker 1: course of true love never to run smooth and so on.
Speaker 1: They ultimately annull their marriage about twenty years later because
Speaker 1: frankly man, Pete's just not at home. He's always going
Speaker 1: on expeditions, gallivanting if you will. But I still have
Speaker 1: to say it's not the kind of story that you
Speaker 1: hear surrounding true unadult traded bastards, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they stuck it out for twenty years. He
Speaker 1: was probably fine. He was just consumed by his work. Um,
Speaker 1: and then it just you know, maybe it wasn't the
Speaker 1: right thing for either of them for some reason. I
Speaker 1: picture a tender conversation where it's like, if you really
Speaker 1: love me, let me go, let me go, and he's like, yes,
Speaker 1: my love, I will let you go. And I well,
Speaker 1: we'll be over here with the polar Bears, will go
Speaker 1: our separate ways and do our own things. And it's
Speaker 1: just the dramatization in my mind. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: take this whale bone necklace and think of me fondly. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just so he's he also does he violates a lot
Speaker 1: of stereotypes that I think people have um pretty unfairly
Speaker 1: about very physically large people and about outdoors the adventurous people. Uh.
Speaker 1: He is not just He's not just a guy with
Speaker 1: a lot of physical, daring do and acumen. He's also
Speaker 1: a kick ass writer and people want to read what
Speaker 1: he writes, and this will like this spoiler, this takes
Speaker 1: him to Hollywood too. He talks, he writes over thirty
Speaker 1: books about Inuit culture, about exploration, about literature. He writes
Speaker 1: in the Realm of domestic politics in Denmark. And then
Speaker 1: his most famous book today is probably one that was
Speaker 1: published after his death. It was called the Book of
Speaker 1: the Eskimos. And again we're using that term because it's
Speaker 1: the actual title or the actual quote. If you are
Speaker 1: describing people from this region of the world. There are
Speaker 1: many many different communities that have been described this way
Speaker 1: by Europeans. Probably best to stinct with Inuit or the
Speaker 1: name of the of the actual group you're referencing. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the name he called it, and we can tell
Speaker 1: from his life he was not trying to be offensive.
Speaker 1: He his his book as autobiographicals published after his death
Speaker 1: nine and he um. By this point he he has
Speaker 1: already lost a leg to frost bite in a very
Speaker 1: weird way. Max hit the music man, back me up,
Speaker 1: I need some cinematic here. Yes, this is the moment
Speaker 1: we were waiting for. This is oh boy, Okay, No,
Speaker 1: we talked about the fuel expeditions. Yeah, we did. But
Speaker 1: you know what this brings to mind for me? What
Speaker 1: was that movie? I'm really bad when it comes to
Speaker 1: like numbers and movies or like that's the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks Max, Max with the facts with you know what's
Speaker 1: his name, James franco Um playing that you know, blunker
Speaker 1: who has to saw his own arm off with a
Speaker 1: pocket knife because he's like cram between two rock walls.
Speaker 1: This is like the scatological version of that of it's definitely,
Speaker 1: uh it's it's definitely a situation to find yourself in. Uh.
Speaker 1: So it's ninety six and this is when Nood and Pete,
Speaker 1: Rasmussen and Freud and are gonna try to test some
Speaker 1: theories they've had. One of their first expeditions is to
Speaker 1: discover whether or not there is a channel of water
Speaker 1: dividing Greenland from a place called perry Land. They this
Speaker 1: takes them inland like it's a six hundred mile very
Speaker 1: unpleasant trek, and Frendshion honestly should have died at least
Speaker 1: if everything he says in his autobiography is true. He
Speaker 1: says that they got caught in a blizzard. He tried
Speaker 1: to take cover under a dog sled, like every like
Speaker 1: the when these blizzards come, they're not something where you
Speaker 1: could just set up a tent. The stoke can come
Speaker 1: so fast to be so intent that it covers whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever shelter you've taken. So he's under his dog sled,
Speaker 1: and then he finds himself entombed, buried alive literally in
Speaker 1: snow and this snow. You know, when you hear snow,
Speaker 1: you think like, oh, I could just it's like powder. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's powder water. That's what snow is. That's a ridiculous
Speaker 1: history fact for you. Like he could have dug himself
Speaker 1: out if it was just snow, but because of the
Speaker 1: freezing temperatures outside, because how warm his body was, his
Speaker 1: breath like melted the snow and then it formed into ice. Fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that stuff gets packed in and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not the fluffy stuff of snow angel dreams um.
Speaker 1: It is like a deadly icy concrete that like, you know, entombed.
Speaker 1: That's the right word, the very metal word. By the way,
Speaker 1: here's a band called Entombed. But yeah, so he's burying
Speaker 1: alive in hard packed snow. Uh and he he he
Speaker 1: has a recollection, doesn't it. He's thinking fast, okay, and
Speaker 1: he thinks he thinks back to some of his expeditions
Speaker 1: where he was tracking animals in the snow and couldn't help.
Speaker 1: But notice that there, I think he refers to them
Speaker 1: as their leavings. If I'm not mistaken, um would would
Speaker 1: freeze solid right there on the ground, a different kind
Speaker 1: of perma frost. And he a little light bulblit up
Speaker 1: over his dad. He's like, I could do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this great explanation from William Roseman, who's an executive
Speaker 1: director of the New York Explorers Club, which uh, which
Speaker 1: will see Pete become associated with later. Yeah, yes, this
Speaker 1: is so this is so weird because he's like just
Speaker 1: the tone of the way this guy explains it. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, luckily he remembered that the Native people often
Speaker 1: news frozen excrement in their sled dogs to make tools.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like that's that's the kind of conversation you
Speaker 1: haven it Explores club. But this, this is what he does.
Speaker 1: He makes himself poop. He you can this is the
Speaker 1: graphic description, by the way, makes the poop himself with
Speaker 1: his body. Yeah, he's a he's a self made man,
Speaker 1: saved myself physician or heal myself. Uh he box, Uh,
Speaker 1: just to read part of this. Uh. He talks about
Speaker 1: this since autobiography where it gets crucial because we talked
Speaker 1: about what a what a word smith he was. It's
Speaker 1: really nice to hear he did have a way of
Speaker 1: spinning a yarn. We're gonna get right into yeah yeah
Speaker 1: he um. He is struggling for a while. First he's
Speaker 1: trying to clause clause way out with his bare hands.
Speaker 1: Terrible idea. And then he's trying to use a frozen
Speaker 1: bear skin, but it tears out his beard, like we're
Speaker 1: talking beard, yeah, and his beard and part of his
Speaker 1: face with it because it froze to the runner of
Speaker 1: the sled that he was God, I know. So so
Speaker 1: he says he's got weird optimism here. He's like, what
Speaker 1: a way to die? I gave up once more and left.
Speaker 1: The hours passed without another move, but I recovered my strength.
Speaker 1: While I rested, my morale improved. I was alive, after all.
Speaker 1: I had not eaten for hours, but my digestion felt
Speaker 1: all right. I got a new idea. I had often
Speaker 1: seen dogs dung in this led track, and it noticed
Speaker 1: it would freeze solid as a rock. Would not the
Speaker 1: cold have the same effect on human discharge? Repulsive was
Speaker 1: the thought it was. I decided to try the experiment.
Speaker 1: I moved my bowels and from the excrement, I managed
Speaker 1: the fashion she's like instrument, which I left to freeze.
Speaker 1: I was patient. I did not want to risk breaking
Speaker 1: my new tool by using it too soon. At last,
Speaker 1: I decided to try my chisel and it worked. He
Speaker 1: shot himself on purpose to freedom. Yeah, I'm just envisioning that.
Speaker 1: He's like he has like, you know, make the chisel
Speaker 1: out of it. So not only does he like, you know,
Speaker 1: shut himself, he has like play with it, like putty
Speaker 1: like it. It's like it's like it's it's just like
Speaker 1: playto you know this format. It's it's you know that
Speaker 1: does he try a little like plaint because you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta always eat a little bit of plaint? Oh
Speaker 1: I know, now, macks back, that's too far. That's infringing
Speaker 1: on this. This is Brian Man's character. No, let's just
Speaker 1: picture this. First of all, he's there in the tightly
Speaker 1: packed you know, I see you know, Tom right, and
Speaker 1: he you know, but he's Still, you can't just make
Speaker 1: yourself poop. I mean you gotta like go through a
Speaker 1: little ritual and make a little face, you know, and
Speaker 1: then there and then there it comes, and then he
Speaker 1: has to acquire it. I picture him rolling it between
Speaker 1: his hands like when you make a snake with Plato,
Speaker 1: and then just kind of like pinching the ends and
Speaker 1: then tapering it down and rolling your hands up to
Speaker 1: the top at the end so it gets to a
Speaker 1: nice point. I mean, I think that's a realistic, uh
Speaker 1: interpretation of what he how he would have done this,
Speaker 1: how did he like sharpen it? And then also you know, um,
Speaker 1: not being doctors, we're gonna say he's pretty lucky that
Speaker 1: he wasn't constipated. And then I think, God, he didn't
Speaker 1: have diarrhea exactly. That's what I was thinking too. I
Speaker 1: was like, you can't I don't know. Well, uh, I
Speaker 1: hope and poop find a way, I guess. But that's
Speaker 1: that really happened, or some version of it really happened,
Speaker 1: because we know for a fact he did make it
Speaker 1: out of that ic tun Uh. He paid for it.
Speaker 1: His feet are frostbitten a f and Gang Green sets
Speaker 1: it on one foot and I didn't know this, but
Speaker 1: the standard, like the native remedy for frostbite and gang
Speaker 1: green at this time was to make a poultice of
Speaker 1: skin from freshly slaughtered lemmings. And yeah, this really that's
Speaker 1: a deep cut, the panimal gingdom cut. The the uh
Speaker 1: the nurse that he finds is putting is changing lemming
Speaker 1: skins out on a regular basis on his foot that
Speaker 1: has gang green. But every time she takes one skin
Speaker 1: off and replaces it, it takes more muscle and flesh
Speaker 1: from his toes. And eventually like, look, you know, you're
Speaker 1: already delirious, you almost died, and he edny already self
Speaker 1: like amputated some of his toes like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: in advance, kind of knowing that, like the things weren't
Speaker 1: looking good, Like I believe he did that himself, right,
Speaker 1: that's the moment. Yeah, so here's what I heard. So
Speaker 1: the he and the nurse at this moment where they
Speaker 1: see the toes or they see the skeleton stumps because
Speaker 1: the skin is gone. And then and the nurse says,
Speaker 1: there's not a doctor here. I guess I could try.
Speaker 1: I can just bite off the nubs for you if
Speaker 1: you want at which point he even Pete says, that's
Speaker 1: a little too adventurous for me. So without anesthetic, without
Speaker 1: any kind of pain killer, without even like alcohol, he
Speaker 1: takes a big pair of pincers and a hammer and
Speaker 1: uh and takes him off one by one. No, no,
Speaker 1: no not. The sounds probably be a little bit squishier
Speaker 1: than that. That's how it sounded a cartoon. Um, but
Speaker 1: this is not a cartoon. This was real life. How hardcore.
Speaker 1: I think this might be the most hardcore story we've
Speaker 1: ever done in terms of like, this is like what's
Speaker 1: that does Stephen King? Short story where there's like the
Speaker 1: doctor who's by himself, like on an island and he
Speaker 1: slowly has to like cut pieces off his own body
Speaker 1: and eat them to stay alive. Oh yeah, was that
Speaker 1: Stephen King? Stephen King? I think it's in like one.
Speaker 1: It's in one of those collections. I can't remember the story,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that happens. Um. This isn't quite that intense,
Speaker 1: but it's it's certainly making me think of that this
Speaker 1: dude med business. He also was a teetotaller, so I
Speaker 1: think he could have used alcohol to um the pain.
Speaker 1: But you want to walk back his principle. I will
Speaker 1: tell you ben at this as a twenty one days
Speaker 1: into dry January, I feel much more likely that I
Speaker 1: might become an Arctic explorer. No, it could happen, maybe
Speaker 1: next month. But yeah, man, hardcore dude. This guy's name
Speaker 1: should be written out like one of those metal band
Speaker 1: logos where you can't understand what the word you know,
Speaker 1: that's this dude. Man, he's yeah and he um that.
Speaker 1: That was perhaps his most dramatic run in with death,
Speaker 1: but according to the more than a baker's dozen of
Speaker 1: memoirs he wrote, he was always about to die. He
Speaker 1: got trapped for in an avalanche for several days. His
Speaker 1: feet survived that one. A cook almost shot him because
Speaker 1: you know, he's a six and a half foot tall
Speaker 1: guy wearing the skin of a polar bear. Not maybe
Speaker 1: the most clever thing when for meeting strangers, he fell
Speaker 1: through a hole in the ice that he had to
Speaker 1: have a sled dogs pull him out. He stabbed himself
Speaker 1: with a harpoon accidentally. Okay, I was about to say,
Speaker 1: why he just stand the whale? Yeah exactly. I mean
Speaker 1: I would not put it past him. Man, This guy
Speaker 1: was serious, dude, serious dude, and like we said before,
Speaker 1: he found this thing called the Adventurer's Club. Adventure were
Speaker 1: the sort of a rural juror kind of thing to say,
Speaker 1: and he had produced and acted in in the pictures Hollywood.
Speaker 1: He he got into the film industry because again he
Speaker 1: was a pretty talented writer and they were thirsty for
Speaker 1: these kinds of stories. So he he wrote scripts and
Speaker 1: he consulted on the scripts for other things too, but
Speaker 1: especially for movies related to the frozen tundra of the Arctic.
Speaker 1: Is that is that the tundra? Am? I am I
Speaker 1: getting my my surface materials mixed up? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: think tundra makes sense. It's the coldest biome. It has
Speaker 1: very little precipitation, so it's like the desert. So it's
Speaker 1: I think the tundra is just below the Arctic ice caps. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it works for my purposes here. And in
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty three, UM one of the most well known
Speaker 1: films that he was involved in came out called Eskimo
Speaker 1: and actually that I'm going on to win the Academy
Speaker 1: Award UM In the UK and Australia, it's known as
Speaker 1: Mala the Magnificent. He actually played a small in it
Speaker 1: as an evil sea captain h which you know fits
Speaker 1: given the guy's stature and um, you know, fondness for
Speaker 1: long coats and the beard of course. Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is this is interesting because it also makes it the
Speaker 1: first Academy Award winning film to be in a language
Speaker 1: of the native people here. So he was doing a
Speaker 1: lot of he was doing a lot of progressive first,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, Unfortunately, the movie kind
Speaker 1: of bombed even though like one, you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was an Awards darling and it was very not
Speaker 1: progressively repackaged as Eskimo Wife Traders. A studio decision, it
Speaker 1: has to be. Yeah, I'm sure he was not happy
Speaker 1: about that. I don't think so. Uh. He did still
Speaker 1: despite the commercial failure of that film, he did still
Speaker 1: make a great impression in Hollywood, California. He befriended notable
Speaker 1: celebrity he's and actors like Gene Harlow. Uh. There was
Speaker 1: this party trick he would do where he would pick
Speaker 1: up actors in like with both his hands, hold them
Speaker 1: up and then twirl them around. And Gene Harlow in
Speaker 1: particular love this. The Harlow situations were because he almost
Speaker 1: got in trouble for this. Lewis Mayor, big time studio head,
Speaker 1: called Peter to his office the next Monday and was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. That's making one of our top
Speaker 1: names look salacious, right, look as it looks like a
Speaker 1: woman of ailable repute. And why because he because he
Speaker 1: picked her up and spun her around. Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Apparently Meyer did have a reason to be kind of
Speaker 1: mad because the photographs he had, photographs that the press
Speaker 1: had taken of this uh toss and spin thing. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and it appears to have, um, it appears to have
Speaker 1: clearly indicated Harlow's interest or lack of interest in wearing
Speaker 1: under Oh no, like a Paris Hilton Limo shot. I
Speaker 1: I think I'm picking up the reference putting down. I
Speaker 1: would agree, Yeah I heard, I heard about that. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, at the time that would have absolutely Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go, Ben. I understand now he wasn't so
Speaker 1: much against the party trick as as what it revealed yikes. Okay,
Speaker 1: but still his reputation in Hollywood was not like smirched
Speaker 1: too badly. Um. He of course continued in his life,
Speaker 1: being intensely interested in traveling, into the mid to late
Speaker 1: nineteen thirties. He spent time in South Africa and also Siberia.
Speaker 1: UM check out the Vintage News dot com right up
Speaker 1: about freud Sen. Uh if you don't mind really great picture.
Speaker 1: He just looks like a quintessential sea captain. He's like
Speaker 1: the guy from I Know What You Did Last Summer,
Speaker 1: except you know, nicer and and like savagery with a hook.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Ian Harvey wrote a really cool piece for
Speaker 1: the Vintage News with an awesome spread of photos of
Speaker 1: the guy and some of his adventure So highly recommend
Speaker 1: checking that one out. And this is amazing. I love
Speaker 1: that he has founded this adventurers club. He also does
Speaker 1: some more absolutely badass stuff like we have to Okay, first,
Speaker 1: let's just recap one of the first and most influential
Speaker 1: European explorers in the Arctic. Uh. He is tremendously progressive
Speaker 1: in his attitudes, doesn't seem to suffer some of the
Speaker 1: same racism. Right. He marries a local person. Uh. He
Speaker 1: doesn't back down from the Christian Church and breaks He
Speaker 1: does opposite of a heist at a Christian church. He
Speaker 1: saves himself with his own poop. He conducts surgery on himself.
Speaker 1: He becomes a Hollywood star. Uh, he starts an adventure club,
Speaker 1: and then World War two happens. And World War two
Speaker 1: this is where you really see his character shine. So
Speaker 1: we know that he was against racial discrimination even when
Speaker 1: it was incredibly normalized and accepted. And and uh, apparently
Speaker 1: anytime somebody said something dirty about Jewish people, he would
Speaker 1: approach them and definitely lead into his six and a
Speaker 1: half foot tall frame and say, it's funny you're talking
Speaker 1: about Jewish people. I myself from Jewish. Yes, check out
Speaker 1: my hook. Yeah. He reserved the hook for anti Semites. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he also appeared to go counter to the prevailing
Speaker 1: attitude of the time with dudes. Uh, and that he
Speaker 1: was not a misogynist. I like, is he just a
Speaker 1: better person than most people? I'm starting to think that.
Speaker 1: You know, he was active in resistance to the Nazi
Speaker 1: occupation of Denmark. He was so good at this despite Oh,
Speaker 1: by the by the way, the frost bite that took
Speaker 1: his those also took that leg. So he's on a
Speaker 1: peg leg at this point, and he's still on some
Speaker 1: as we say and find out. So you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: his attitude towards Jewish people right before the Second World War. Well,
Speaker 1: he was so influential and so kind of became this
Speaker 1: like almost figurehead of tolerance uh and and progressiveness that
Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler himself did not care for the man, let's
Speaker 1: just say. And during World War Two, um Fristion became
Speaker 1: embroiled in kind of a political kerfuffle because of his
Speaker 1: kind of you know, maybe involuntary role as this kind
Speaker 1: of like activist um for the rights of Jewish people,
Speaker 1: anti Nazism and all that. Hitler saw this guy and
Speaker 1: his stature and he ordered that he be captured and
Speaker 1: and murdered. Also, all those books that he wrote we
Speaker 1: talked about. The Third Reich of course banned those. Uh
Speaker 1: Fristion was a died in France during the you know,
Speaker 1: when the Nazis were occupying it. But he escaped, That's
Speaker 1: all we have. By the way he escaped the Nazis.
Speaker 1: Did he use a weapon fashioned from his own excrement
Speaker 1: this time too, We'll never know. He made a poop
Speaker 1: gun and he's like I've got his I got more
Speaker 1: bullets than you think. I was eating those prison beans
Speaker 1: for a week, you know, like like that one in
Speaker 1: the line of fire you know, grown ups guys. But
Speaker 1: thankfully his digestion was just fine. It was just fun.
Speaker 1: He was definitely regular. I mean, you you know you're
Speaker 1: rough that out there on the wilderness, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: eating plenty of fiber. So probably something to think about
Speaker 1: if you ever go a spelunking or whatever. Shout out
Speaker 1: to thirty seven Days of peril uh in Federal where
Speaker 1: you will meet someone who is much less efficient in
Speaker 1: the wild than our boy Pete. But okay, so I
Speaker 1: love that image. We're not sure how he escaped, but
Speaker 1: in n after he is gabs and he flees to Sweden.
Speaker 1: From there he ends up going to the US with
Speaker 1: his new wife, his third wife, a Danish Jewish fashion
Speaker 1: illustrator named Dagmar Cone. Uh. There they get married in
Speaker 1: the Big Apple and Cone has a job working for Vogue.
Speaker 1: She was doing like illustrations that made it on the cover.
Speaker 1: She was a big deal. And this is where some
Speaker 1: of those pictures that you mentioned earlier Noel come into play,
Speaker 1: because this guy still looks very much like a wild man,
Speaker 1: an outdoorsman. He's like almost sixty now. He's joined the
Speaker 1: New York Explorers Club and they still have to this
Speaker 1: day a painting of him hanging on the wall. He also, oh, right,
Speaker 1: the Last Flex, which is a good name for a film. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Last Fix is this? In nineteen fifty six, he
Speaker 1: wins a game show called the sixty four thousand Dollar Question. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a lot of money at that time. It's
Speaker 1: still a lot of money today, but bigger jackpots than that.
Speaker 1: To have that speed, they'd have to like up it
Speaker 1: in the name too, And maybe I think it's more
Speaker 1: than half a million. I think, uh yeah, I went
Speaker 1: with inflation and all that. Yeah, And I only just
Speaker 1: recently figured out how deal or no Deal works. I
Speaker 1: was getting my oil change in a Jiffy loob and
Speaker 1: it was on and I like just kind of looked perplexed,
Speaker 1: and somebody like in the waiting room kind of had
Speaker 1: pity on me and explained to me how deal or
Speaker 1: no Deal worked. And then I was like, I couldn't
Speaker 1: look away. You gotta know about the deal. It's all
Speaker 1: about probability. That's what the guy told me. Was solicited.
Speaker 1: I think, I said to my kids, and I've never
Speaker 1: understood what this is all about. And this guy goes,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Um, it's all about probability. I'm like, elaborate please.
Speaker 1: I love it, Lanta. I love the way that people
Speaker 1: you know, we're very lucky. This doesn't happen in a
Speaker 1: lot of other places, a lot of other countries, or
Speaker 1: even though there are a lot of other place places
Speaker 1: in the US, but Atlanta. If you've never visited, our
Speaker 1: fair metropolis is a place where it is assumed that
Speaker 1: you will likely end up in a casual conversation when
Speaker 1: you happen to be standing next to anyone for more
Speaker 1: than about three minutes. You know, like and and strangers will.
Speaker 1: This is the town where I get the most. This
Speaker 1: is the US town where I get the most unsolicited compliments.
Speaker 1: And they're not you know, creepy gross compliments or whatever that. Uh.
Speaker 1: I remember I was walking into a local store here
Speaker 1: and I went to just pick up stuff that was
Speaker 1: going to cook, and uh, the cashier when I was
Speaker 1: walking up, it's like there he is. Ah, it's the director.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh me, what do you mean
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know, like you your sweater,
Speaker 1: you look like you you're a director or something, and uh,
Speaker 1: I was very flattering. So if you get a chance
Speaker 1: to give strangers a non creepy compliment and sincere, that's cool,
Speaker 1: and that guy was trying to help, right, No, he
Speaker 1: was like, was he trying to help? You thought he's
Speaker 1: trying to help. He's trying to help. He wasn't being
Speaker 1: a jerk. As I followed up with some questions, questions,
Speaker 1: and it really made the time pass a lot quicker
Speaker 1: while I was waiting for my old change because I
Speaker 1: understood what Howie Mandel was going on about with his shiny,
Speaker 1: shiny bald head and his suitcases. I wish he would
Speaker 1: do what was that movie where he played a monster
Speaker 1: that comes out under little monsters? I wish he would
Speaker 1: do Deal or No Deal in his little monster's costumes.
Speaker 1: I wish he would do Deal or No Deal in
Speaker 1: the voice that he does for Bobby's World the whole time,
Speaker 1: just inexplicably sounding like a small little child. If he
Speaker 1: does both of those at the same time, then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch Deal or No Deal every day and next
Speaker 1: week on David Lynch TV. Right right, So with this,
Speaker 1: with these adventures that he has had, he has also
Speaker 1: given a number of civic awards, one of which is
Speaker 1: the Gold Medal of the International Benjamin Franklin Society for
Speaker 1: his general Sir VI, his demandkind he has for his
Speaker 1: last days are what we count as very peaceful for him,
Speaker 1: probably some of the most peaceful days of his life
Speaker 1: since his childhood. Uh. He eventually dies of a heart
Speaker 1: attack when he's seventy one and nine seven. He's just
Speaker 1: completed a book called Book of the Seven Seas, and
Speaker 1: he's actually walking toward a playing in Alaska because he's
Speaker 1: off on some other adventures. He's just like a Bilbo
Speaker 1: Baggins type figure, you know. He finishes his book and
Speaker 1: then gets spirited away to the elves where he can
Speaker 1: die in peace and just kind of disappears, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of what happens. Well, it's uh, it's also a
Speaker 1: remarkably peaceful ending. I mean, heart attacks are terrible thing,
Speaker 1: but it's remarkably peaceful ending when you consider all the
Speaker 1: other ways it could go. Um right right now, I
Speaker 1: think as of Deadline was reporting that the Berkowitz brothers,
Speaker 1: through their company Not a Billionaire, are trying to make
Speaker 1: a limited series based on Pete's life. Yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: that bad. I don't know who the Berkowitz brothers are.
Speaker 1: They're not related to like the serial killer Berkowitz. Are they?
Speaker 1: I hope not, because I will not be watching their program. No, no, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I shouldn't cancel the Berkowitz brothers. It wasn't
Speaker 1: their fault there other sibling was a nut. You know.
Speaker 1: They should be allowed to make limited television series all
Speaker 1: they want. Everybody should be allowed to make a limited
Speaker 1: television series. Come on, that's what that's what the future is. Uh.
Speaker 1: This this concludes our story for now. They we'll probably
Speaker 1: talk about this whenever we get a chance to see
Speaker 1: the limited series. But I wanted to. I know we
Speaker 1: always thank people at the end of this, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to give an especial thanks to all three of
Speaker 1: us for staying relatively on the rails when we got
Speaker 1: to the poop knife part. I thought we did a
Speaker 1: pretty good job. So thanks to us. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's not forget it's a hairing situation. It's like, we know,
Speaker 1: he survived. I mean, he was horribly mangled, but I
Speaker 1: still he would have wanted it this way. He would
Speaker 1: have wanted to give us joy. I think, you know
Speaker 1: with and let's think about this way. He was wearing
Speaker 1: gloves most likely while he was doing it, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like it was getting directly on his hands. That's
Speaker 1: your takeaway thinking, well, I think like there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of room under a dog sled. That no, the poop,
Speaker 1: God everywhere, How did he get from his pants? I
Speaker 1: thank god he wasn't traveling with Kate Winslets. You would
Speaker 1: have made him like sit outside and freeze to death.
Speaker 1: Oh god, there was enough room on that flots Um
Speaker 1: that's the word for floating ship debris. I love that word.
Speaker 1: What about jetsam, I think the same thing. Are they
Speaker 1: just they're just like their parting parcel was flotsom and jetsam.
Speaker 1: They usually come in pairs, flots them. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like slag type versus stalagmite. I think, uh, flots some
Speaker 1: floats and jets some sinks. Yes back that. I've literally
Speaker 1: never understood the distinction between these two things until now,
Speaker 1: So thank you, my friend. There's also a band called
Speaker 1: Flotsam and Jetsam, an American metal band from Phoenix, Arizona,
Speaker 1: founded in nineteen eighty one. Also to confirm Entombed is
Speaker 1: a American metal band. American I pretty much knew that
Speaker 1: they are. They are They perhaps Danish late. Let me
Speaker 1: correct myself because I wanted to check. I don't want
Speaker 1: to mislead anybody the when I'm looking at some official
Speaker 1: like Merchant Marine website stuff like that, they're saying that
Speaker 1: the real definition of flotsam and jetsam goes into the
Speaker 1: intention behind it. Flotsam was not deliberately thrown overboard, that
Speaker 1: it was a shipbreaker at accident, but jets Jenson Jennison Jennison,
Speaker 1: thank you, Betty, Oh my god? That okay? All right,
Speaker 1: Well I think we got there. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Entombed is definitely a death metal band from Sweden, so
Speaker 1: not too far off from Denmark, right unless I'm really
Speaker 1: bad at geography, which I am. No, you're the indro,
Speaker 1: you're the right areas. You know, you're in the right region. Um,
Speaker 1: is there tundra? There's always tundra somewhere, you know, got it?
Speaker 1: So uh this so this has been a wild ride
Speaker 1: for us. You went a little long on this one,
Speaker 1: but we do hope you enjoyed it at least a
Speaker 1: fraction as much as we did. Thanks to super producer
Speaker 1: Max Williams. Thanks to Alex Williams uh Our who is
Speaker 1: soon to be like our official traveling correspondent. I think
Speaker 1: unofficial traveling correspondent. He composed this slapping track, He sure did,
Speaker 1: thanks to Jonathan Strickland. The quiz to Christopher Hastio, Sives,
Speaker 1: Jeff Coates here in Spirit, Gabe Louisier, You, Max Williams,
Speaker 1: Ben Bowling, the whole Ridiculous family, which also includes Uh,
Speaker 1: Eli and Diana from Ridiculous Romance. They're also going to
Speaker 1: be hanging out with us very soon. Oh that's right, yes,
Speaker 1: And we're gonna be hanging out on their show so
Speaker 1: that we can, you know, learn learn their tricks and
Speaker 1: their comedic timing. I also want to give a one
Speaker 1: time shout out to a new nemesis that apparently had
Speaker 1: for a while and was not aware. Uh, Sam McVey,
Speaker 1: Sam and Annie's stuff. Mom never told you, so check
Speaker 1: out their show, Uh and Noel, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: This is like I love when we do these sorts
Speaker 1: of stories together because we're both such fans of the
Speaker 1: cinematic and the adventurous, and I think these these stories
Speaker 1: really shine for us. Boy do they ever shine on you,
Speaker 1: Crazy Diamond. We'll see you next time. For more podcasts
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