Speaker 1: Welcome to the Better Bread Boys podcast, behind the scenes
Speaker 1: podcast where we talk about bread and boys our favorite topics.
Speaker 1: This is episode one of the Better Bread Boys, starring
Speaker 1: Jeff Debou and Steve Boyd Executive producer. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes look of the Brook and Jeffrey
Speaker 1: in the Morning experience. That's the name of the show. Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I said the first time. But just well,
Speaker 1: I'm editing your part out. Okay. So we're here with
Speaker 1: our first guest today, and that would be Jeff. I'm
Speaker 1: a guest on my own podcast. How long have you
Speaker 1: been on the show? Eleven years? Well, that's a long time,
Speaker 1: is that even? Yeah? And so for the for the
Speaker 1: listeners that don't know, how did you get started in radio?
Speaker 1: Tell us the story. It all started with a mistake.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about your mom and dad. That was
Speaker 1: that mistake. Do you have to be real about this, No,
Speaker 1: just tell us the story how it started. It started
Speaker 1: after college and I didn't know what the hell I
Speaker 1: was gonna do. And I was like, I guess entertainment
Speaker 1: industry sounds fun. Even though you were studying philosophy at
Speaker 1: the time. It was psychology. But yes, useless degree, nothing
Speaker 1: to do with it. My mom had a friend in
Speaker 1: this business, and she was like, hey, please do something
Speaker 1: for my son. He's absolutely useless. And then I came
Speaker 1: here and then I met producer BOYD. So your mom's
Speaker 1: friend worked here at the radio station. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Who was she like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: who she was? Okay, something rose Okay, So so you
Speaker 1: ended up coming here and you were interning somewhere, right.
Speaker 1: I was going to be on the promo team, on
Speaker 1: the street team, putting up posters around the city. And
Speaker 1: then they brought you in because they apparently thought I
Speaker 1: was good, or they thought I was weird, or they
Speaker 1: thought we can make fun of this guy. They had
Speaker 1: told me that you were interested in the production side.
Speaker 1: I was, and so they're like, you should just meet
Speaker 1: with him. And so I remember walking in the room
Speaker 1: and seeing you in your little suit. Yeah I was
Speaker 1: wearing at which no one in radio wears suits. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I felt like an idiot. And I remember you were
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous yep. And had you already started
Speaker 1: working in promo at that time? No, that was my
Speaker 1: promo interview, Oh it was. They just Okay, So So
Speaker 1: from that conversation, what do you remember. I remember, I
Speaker 1: don't remember a whole lot other than you telling me repeatedly, like,
Speaker 1: don't do this, do not get into this industry. I
Speaker 1: know you think it sounds fun, It's not fun. Trust me.
Speaker 1: And was I right? You were right? You regret it still,
Speaker 1: like I thought you were just being funny, but you
Speaker 1: were serious. I was trying to warn you. I knew
Speaker 1: I was gonna have enough warning shots, and I didn't listen.
Speaker 1: And for those those people that don't know, Like, why
Speaker 1: why would you say that to somebody? Now? Like what
Speaker 1: about this industry is challenging, like tough, you know, honestly
Speaker 1: being creative a man all the time, like constantly you
Speaker 1: were demanding, Like it is a demanding job. You have
Speaker 1: to be creative every like ten minutes. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: like you get to be creative once a day and
Speaker 1: then you get to take an hour break. It's twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. Creativity. Management is constantly on you. Keep in mind,
Speaker 1: management is not on you all the time. Let's be
Speaker 1: on there. I mean, they bring stuff up, but I
Speaker 1: think you feel the pressure that they're on you just
Speaker 1: because of a conversation or a study that comes out.
Speaker 1: You feel the weight of it, but really, like they're
Speaker 1: not on you. They expect ratings results and and everybody does. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: it's not like the days where we first started. When
Speaker 1: I began, it was like, okay, hey, you produced. I
Speaker 1: produced a woman's talk show in the afternoon, a regional
Speaker 1: talk show, and so I came in and we were
Speaker 1: this is a different show, but we're fifteenth or something.
Speaker 1: And then after six months I had taken them all
Speaker 1: the way to seventeenth. Wow, I went down two spots
Speaker 1: and they're just like, who the heck do we hired?
Speaker 1: And so there kind of getting on me and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get the field for radio. So but there
Speaker 1: was I mean, when you're losing that bad, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure, like and right now, like we're winning,
Speaker 1: so there's not as much pressure on you. You think
Speaker 1: there is, but you have no idea until you're seventeenth.
Speaker 1: It's harder then, really, I think, because you're opposite. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because you're thinking I'm not going to be here, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lose my job. And that's a huge thing. You know.
Speaker 1: Right now, they're not going to get rid of you tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when when you start out sucking, they don't expect
Speaker 1: much from you. Yes, so, but still you're all you're
Speaker 1: worried about the job loss part. Anyway, go back to
Speaker 1: the original convo here about the conversation with me and then,
Speaker 1: so what happened you got hired to do? Is that
Speaker 1: part time promo? Part time here? Yeah, working a few
Speaker 1: days on the promotions team, and then I think just
Speaker 1: two days on the morning show with you and yeah
Speaker 1: the crew. Yeah, and I remember the promo person ahead
Speaker 1: of time was mad at me that I had you
Speaker 1: for two days, So like, we love him, so we
Speaker 1: want him here all five days. You really were. The
Speaker 1: way you hang up hang up those posters is so amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those jeans are so tight. So tell me about that.
Speaker 1: What you remember the first six months here? I remember
Speaker 1: being really fun. I mean the part where I got
Speaker 1: to go out and like go to concerts and not no,
Speaker 1: not not being with the morning show. I wake up early,
Speaker 1: which I wasn't used to doing, not in my young days,
Speaker 1: not in college and whatever. The first week I was
Speaker 1: late three days in a row, and you called my
Speaker 1: mom on the air and had her come down on
Speaker 1: me on live radio. Yeah, which she did, which she did.
Speaker 1: She told him it was time to grow up. Though
Speaker 1: there's some grow up times. Yeah, she encouraged you to
Speaker 1: take away my credit cards. I remember doing games with
Speaker 1: you in the booth, like setting up for today versus
Speaker 1: back in the day, and all the dumb radio games
Speaker 1: that you do when you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have a focus. You just play
Speaker 1: a bunch of games on the air. Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun because that was easy. It was super easy. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and we got creative with the music and that type
Speaker 1: of thing. It's a different creativity than how it is now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but maybe you should tell the story about Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and the dates. When was that? That was way after
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's way after, maybe a couple
Speaker 1: a year or two later, But I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: I'm trying to paint the picture for the listeners that
Speaker 1: kind of want to know a little bit about your background,
Speaker 1: what you were like back then. You're pretty irresponsible, number one.
Speaker 1: You mean, I think fun is the word you were going.
Speaker 1: You're responsible and fun. Sure. Yeah, now around me you
Speaker 1: were more nervous. But I'm saying, tell about that time
Speaker 1: what happened. I booked a weekend getaway with some of
Speaker 1: my close friends from college, and we had a great time.
Speaker 1: I'm raging in Vegas for the full weekend state at
Speaker 1: Caesar's Palace, I think. And then Sunday rolls around and
Speaker 1: I have to go back to work the next day,
Speaker 1: and I'm checking my flights for that afternoon, and I realize, oh, crap,
Speaker 1: I didn't book my flight for this afternoon. I book
Speaker 1: my flight for Sunday afternoon, six months from now. And
Speaker 1: so I had to call you and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to change my flight so I can get
Speaker 1: back in. But here's the deal. If I get the
Speaker 1: flight tonight, it's going to cost me a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to change it. If I get it back the next day,
Speaker 1: I can be in and you know, late morning, early afternoon,
Speaker 1: and it'll only cost me three hundred dollars to change it. Right.
Speaker 1: And what was my response? And your response was paid
Speaker 1: the thousand dollars get back tonight. And I was furious
Speaker 1: because I was making no money at the time. It
Speaker 1: was that was like my entire month's rent. And you
Speaker 1: told me, who cares, Jeff, The show is more important
Speaker 1: than you and your finance. Absolutely, And that's a good lesson,
Speaker 1: right there is that when you're young and you're part
Speaker 1: of something that's a team. No matter what I'm trying,
Speaker 1: I was trying to teach you a lesson there about
Speaker 1: think of the team before yourself. Even though your mom
Speaker 1: I think was kind of mad at me too for
Speaker 1: doing it. I was also part of the team and
Speaker 1: she paid for it. I couldn't afford it. It was
Speaker 1: a good lesson for you to learn. And did you
Speaker 1: ever do it again? No, I haven't gone back to
Speaker 1: Vegas since, that's not true, well, not as a vacation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just I mean just we go down to Vegas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every once in a while. That's kind of fun sometimes,
Speaker 1: is it? It is sometimes challenging. Sometimes you never know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. I have really different definitions of
Speaker 1: the word fun. Yeah. So yeah, if you're listening, this
Speaker 1: is the Better Bread Boys Podcast, Episode one, and want
Speaker 1: to just stop down to for Jeff to say, are
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Speaker 1: supporting us. Thank you to Scented highlighter pens. Is there
Speaker 1: a tagline? I don't know, Sniffett before you all right,
Speaker 1: so we don't have a sponsor yet, that's okay. But anyway,
Speaker 1: what else can you tell people about starting off in
Speaker 1: the radio and some of some of the things that
Speaker 1: you remember the most most memorable times in those early days.
Speaker 1: We're talking two thousand and nine, two thousand, No, two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten, two eleven ish. Yeah, it's not the same.
Speaker 1: Tell me why. I don't even know. Do you remember
Speaker 1: anything that happened back then. I've actively tried to block
Speaker 1: out most of those memories from the You can talk
Speaker 1: about the weird being with Kirsten Bell that you had
Speaker 1: that wasn't even weird. We had Kristen Bell coom in
Speaker 1: to do interview. But what you were thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: what was I thinking? You were thinking that she was
Speaker 1: going to fall out with you? Oh? I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is true. Every time we had a hot female
Speaker 1: guest and I just thought, Oh, they're gonna see my
Speaker 1: arms and that's gonna be it. That's gonna be it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so basically never happened. Your time in radio
Speaker 1: has been a series of disappointments, A decade long of
Speaker 1: failures and disappointments and life lessons and song of the
Speaker 1: week you told me that you thought that you'd be
Speaker 1: discovered by the Tonight Show, or I actively tried to
Speaker 1: get it published at one point and no one wanted
Speaker 1: so Missuri just continues to happen. Oh man, all right, well, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna end this. We'll have a special guest in
Speaker 1: the Better Bred Boys podcast coming up sometime in the
Speaker 1: near future when this podcast gets approved. If we're still
Speaker 1: year yeah,