Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast He's Afraid of Sharks from
Speaker 1: the Chris wesley Podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I'm
Speaker 1: Dan Hands in the studio, filled with some heroes, Greg Rostal,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Took a week off, Marky, we recharged the batteries.
Speaker 1: Now we're back. How you feel. I don't feel recharged
Speaker 1: in the classic sense, but um I I do appreciate
Speaker 1: what happened over the past week in many ways. WHOA
Speaker 1: I mean, tell us more? What did happen? A lot
Speaker 1: of it is not for air, but I mean it.
Speaker 1: I found it. I needed to kick off my off
Speaker 1: season in a way that it felt appropriate for me,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's I can feel a different
Speaker 1: vibe already. Mark is leaning back, which I don't think
Speaker 1: he's done since ever. He's usually a little annoyed to
Speaker 1: the chair wide eyed. One thing, we're in the Chris
Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio. We've got a large bay window here
Speaker 1: that overlooks the hallway, and in weeks previous or even
Speaker 1: earlier months, people would stop and watch what we do
Speaker 1: here because there's an element of fascination. Nobody cares now
Speaker 1: they're just walking right by. This is just that's fine.
Speaker 1: You want the attention, Yes, I do. Hey, listen, if
Speaker 1: you're talking to a microphone for a living, guess what
Speaker 1: you like attention. That's just the way it works. By
Speaker 1: the way, I have a guess. Aaron Rodgers was on
Speaker 1: his uh Pancha Karma twelve day cleanse? Did you do
Speaker 1: an intense cleanse? No? I did not do that particular one.
Speaker 1: I had just learned about that. Am I on the
Speaker 1: right track. It was not a cleanse in the way
Speaker 1: that UM health experts would suggest. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: Is it a conversation that you would have a Justin
Speaker 1: Graver about something I don't like? What is? No? I mean?
Speaker 1: I just like, it's just simply not fair. Greg, you
Speaker 1: are wearing a member's only jacket right now. We're on
Speaker 1: NFL Network today. Uh. And there were some jokes. Jason Kleman,
Speaker 1: one of our fine producers, pointed out that you look
Speaker 1: like the guy that killed Tony Soprano in the last
Speaker 1: episode of The Sopranos, and that's maybe killed him, maybe didn't.
Speaker 1: It's the nicest thing picturing like, don't stop believing playing
Speaker 1: and Eric is trying to parallel park and keeps failing
Speaker 1: at it, but a lot of people are giving you
Speaker 1: positive feedback as well. It's it's been quite a topic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going more like Corey freenberg Um in Goonies, you know,
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman, Yeah, not freberg Um. That who the story
Speaker 1: friend was an attempt to connect the dots there. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that that that was someone from my college life
Speaker 1: that I have a lot of stories in and I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to him on it. I um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, g already came came at me hard. But
Speaker 1: you know, it just led to me having a great
Speaker 1: connection with a lot of my co workers. I haven't
Speaker 1: said in a long time. That's important. Beautiful and uh
Speaker 1: I was up in Big Bear this weekend really good. First,
Speaker 1: you know, first we went to Disneyland. I took the
Speaker 1: Locks Trophy there and you know, did the whole thing
Speaker 1: and all the media rounds. Then I went up to
Speaker 1: Big Bear Village and they threw me a parade. Wait
Speaker 1: what is that? Wait a second is it? Oh my gol,
Speaker 1: Oh it's Connie Fox's music. Oh, it's Connie Fox's music.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a professor right there. She knew her. The
Speaker 1: cameras where she knew her the marks well. Also, I
Speaker 1: worked out yesterday and I'm having trouble walking today that
Speaker 1: that was that was a stretch. I turn that up
Speaker 1: on I love the song. He got pretty contentious. I
Speaker 1: remember when we were choosing that song. I remember West
Speaker 1: did not want that song. There was there was a battle,
Speaker 1: There was a couple, there was a couple of options
Speaker 1: with this different size, and a couple of the other
Speaker 1: songs I thought showed maybe the more delightfully awkward versions
Speaker 1: like that when you get into those corners. One of
Speaker 1: the songs that I think I live in that corner,
Speaker 1: Mark didn't West like more like Calypso version. There was
Speaker 1: another great version, and ultimately he had to come around
Speaker 1: to the idea that I don't it's Colleen's song and
Speaker 1: that that vote should count a little extra. Greg. For
Speaker 1: the record, I think your jacket is very thankabul thank
Speaker 1: you listen. I haven't made a statement on it one
Speaker 1: way or the other. I'm just reporting as a journal
Speaker 1: It's a thing. It's a thing out there. It's part
Speaker 1: of the discourse both on the network end behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I felt defensive. I don't think so. Did that seem defensive?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Dan. I think you're being u
Speaker 1: as you mentioned before, like you're a showman and you
Speaker 1: have to have that kind of sense. I'm wearing a
Speaker 1: polo shirt from Target and a free NFL swag with
Speaker 1: a stain on it um from an event we did
Speaker 1: on the Friday before the Super I think you're fashionable,
Speaker 1: You're you're a host, You're You're like Aaron Rodgers. You
Speaker 1: just like to put things out there and see the
Speaker 1: people react. All right, Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, he's in
Speaker 1: the news as he always is a lot in the news.
Speaker 1: Is our first show, Connie since Super Bowl fifty six?
Speaker 1: Is your phone? Well, thank you, thank you? Penn. I
Speaker 1: never use it and never was a blue pen never, okay,
Speaker 1: God you and John. But John doesn't do a blue
Speaker 1: pen either. That's so weird to me, John, John, See Ricky.
Speaker 1: They threw her a surprise. An American sports writer was
Speaker 1: married NFL meda broadcaster College woolf John, who was a Pisces,
Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs.
Speaker 1: Do you have no blue pens in your house? No?
Speaker 1: I throw them out. Is this like a clown? You're
Speaker 1: you're like writing utensilo clown scenario, like you're not in Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like clowns either. But through jet, Erica's girlfriend
Speaker 1: through a surprise like weekend wine trip thing, and she
Speaker 1: got back over twenty four hours ago and she came
Speaker 1: into the studio. It sounded like she was on something
Speaker 1: like we're worried about her? Why are you whispering? I
Speaker 1: can still hear you the headphones on? How are you?
Speaker 1: How is your great? I'm wonderful. I had the best
Speaker 1: weekend of my entire life. Wow. Yeah, really did really
Speaker 1: did the pro step up? That was not the version
Speaker 1: of Erica we heard or even that last night we
Speaker 1: taped an episode of The Jesse, Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the second straight podcast I've
Speaker 1: done where she's hungover, which is a record. Yeah, We're
Speaker 1: I'm not hungover anymore. I'm just like ill, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Just you'll be OK. Yeah. Anyway, So
Speaker 1: this is our first show since the Super Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: also today is kind of officially, unofficially the start of
Speaker 1: the off season, and I'll get to that in just
Speaker 1: a minute. But since Connie, you know you are a
Speaker 1: you're a journalist in a way, right. I always have
Speaker 1: a hard time whenever I'm like at a new doctor
Speaker 1: or something like that, it's what's your occupation, And I'm
Speaker 1: always like, um, I guess a broadcaster A host? I
Speaker 1: don't really know broadcaster. I think does it for like
Speaker 1: a for another audience? They understand that. And sports broad
Speaker 1: host is even like weird because it could be a rest.
Speaker 1: Even before you made it big, you were doing broadcasting
Speaker 1: from golf courses. That's sports. Um. But anyway, um, now
Speaker 1: that the offseason is kicking off in earnest and we
Speaker 1: haven't done a show in nine days, which is close
Speaker 1: to a record for us, we figured this would be
Speaker 1: a good time to do a notebook up. Now that's
Speaker 1: that's industry jargon. Uh, journals that cover team speeds. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm not man splanning. I'm more talking about audience and
Speaker 1: addressing you directly. It's just gets man splanning to the audience.
Speaker 1: But that's when they have all this information and sometimes
Speaker 1: it's time up, time for this column to be just
Speaker 1: here's my notebook dump. This is everything I got right
Speaker 1: under the guys that like, we're still walking around with
Speaker 1: notebooks if we're reporters, which is true of like two
Speaker 1: percent of reporters. Maybe we have the game a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm not referring to I'm not referring to my tactics.
Speaker 1: Just in general. There aren't a lot of scribes roaming
Speaker 1: around with notebooks at this point. Maybe we should talk
Speaker 1: about your process after the pile. All right, Well that's fair.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a reason that the Simon Slim and
Speaker 1: Narrow will be in. We'll be into in Indianapolis next
Speaker 1: week for the combine where you get a real close
Speaker 1: up look at the journals in action, and it's like
Speaker 1: being at the zoo. We'll see how many have the
Speaker 1: notepads at with the pen I still think it's prevalent.
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, I think that I would over under
Speaker 1: of that for show Interesting Minds for show. I don't
Speaker 1: even have paper to write on, but it's just like
Speaker 1: a pacifier. So Greg, this will be the note book
Speaker 1: dump episode of the Around the NFL podcast. Bridges will
Speaker 1: go around and around. Um. I would say, this is
Speaker 1: so much to to unpack here. Um, there's so much
Speaker 1: to break down that Ricky, why just put sixty minutes
Speaker 1: on the clock and maybe we won't need it. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll need some of it. Greg's gotta he's gonna meet
Speaker 1: his plumber, which I found again. Greg, it's happening almost
Speaker 1: every week now, fairly masculine guys guy stuff. Check in
Speaker 1: with the plumber over here. It would be guys guy
Speaker 1: stuff if I was doing the fixing. I'm just meeting
Speaker 1: the person like that. My you know, like I'm picturing
Speaker 1: you or are you're wearing right now? No, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that, like the shameful thing of like should I
Speaker 1: hover near them? Should I sit on the couch one
Speaker 1: room away? Which the water offer comes right off the bat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's if anything, it's it's very unmascular. Here's what I picture.
Speaker 1: You gotta change and again I've not made a statement
Speaker 1: on the South. And it's fine to me. Um white
Speaker 1: T shirt with the V neck, okay, vicious V. Then
Speaker 1: you turn up the sleeves, put a pack of cigarettes
Speaker 1: in the sleeve. Blue jeans like like nineteen fifty eight
Speaker 1: James Dean jeans. Maybe coff them at the box and
Speaker 1: maybe you just go McAfee style with with the with
Speaker 1: a tank top and that way. I'm showing off both
Speaker 1: my tats. But Greg also like the ensemble that I
Speaker 1: think you nailed. Dan. You need to just go out
Speaker 1: and be like you're busy out in the backyard, like
Speaker 1: smashed two bricks together out of out of sight line.
Speaker 1: Another man out there to eat some and then you
Speaker 1: have to when you see the plum come to him
Speaker 1: with confident it's coming hard, with a handshake and say hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk pipes and that will that will break down
Speaker 1: the wall between you. I've been impressed by you since
Speaker 1: you've been a homeowner. You've done, You've done some masculine
Speaker 1: pool It helps a lot, Yeah, it helps roof work.
Speaker 1: I also grew up in a coal town, so you know,
Speaker 1: working hard still recently, honest days living U that wasn't easy.
Speaker 1: Here we go. You know my mom doesn't like the
Speaker 1: cold bit, Yeah, because it's such a nice now I
Speaker 1: made that are so beautiful. She's thinking, why is my
Speaker 1: child now as an adult reframing his childhood and classic
Speaker 1: classic suburbia town, I don't like. I did grow up
Speaker 1: in a nice town, but you had to roll up
Speaker 1: your sleeves in that town. It's got hot sometimes. Want
Speaker 1: to dog? How about that little yellow bird down the
Speaker 1: canary down in the coal there's your there's your pet.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it stays alive and you stay alive. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what's annoying your mom. I think that does the subtext.
Speaker 1: And we now have twenty eight minutes left of this
Speaker 1: power timers. All right, let's get going because Breig really
Speaker 1: does need to talk to the plumber. It's on Emica's radar.
Speaker 1: She wants him there. Well, she's just not gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Someone's got to be there. That's that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to strangers roaming the house going through
Speaker 1: the pipes. Put sixty minutes on the clock. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go around the NFL in earnest. Let's go, Ricky, all right,
Speaker 1: let me get things going. And I want to I
Speaker 1: want to frame it, uh because I wanna make sure
Speaker 1: we hit all all sorts of things. You can hit
Speaker 1: anything you want, by the way, including uh, anything from
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We haven't talked since that game, if
Speaker 1: you care to revisit that game in any capacity. But
Speaker 1: I will start like I said, this is the first
Speaker 1: real day of the off season because the NFL, and
Speaker 1: not in a post COVID world, but a world where
Speaker 1: in the NFL things are kind of coming back uh
Speaker 1: to normal. So the franchise UH free agency begins with
Speaker 1: legal negotiating period on March fourteenth, but teams have a
Speaker 1: two week window beginning today Tuesday ending March eighth, to
Speaker 1: designate the franchise or a transition tag on a player
Speaker 1: from their roster. And here a couple of things UH
Speaker 1: interesting here as I dumped the notebook, the salary cap
Speaker 1: was at one two point five million in one because
Speaker 1: of everything with COVID and there being no fans at
Speaker 1: the games in twenty there was just a freeze on everything.
Speaker 1: Now it's expected to jump to two eight million in
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand, twenty two. This is coming from our good,
Speaker 1: great reporter, true journal, Judy Batista. UM two eight million
Speaker 1: in two, improvement of nearly twenty six million per team.
Speaker 1: There will be spending. I want to set it up
Speaker 1: this way, Greggy, because you next week will roll out
Speaker 1: your free agency one O one. That's right. People are
Speaker 1: counting on it, people are looking forward to it. And
Speaker 1: last year there weren't a lot of players that got tagged.
Speaker 1: Just nine players received the franchise tag last year. UM.
Speaker 1: Who is most likely to not get tagged or tag
Speaker 1: take out wherever you want. But I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: when you do your free one on one, who actually
Speaker 1: makes it to free agency that's a big name, Like
Speaker 1: I'll throw out a couple like Davante Adams. Uh, he'll
Speaker 1: be tagged. You know, I'm gonna go down Jesse's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go down Judy's list here and you tell me
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates Bengals free safety, was tag but yeah, will
Speaker 1: be tagged if he has to be. Harold Landry, j C. Jackson, Tagg,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams tag, Orlando Brown tag Carlton Davis Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers quarters, Chris go there too. So you get a
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz tight end Cowboys, Marcus Williams safety Saints, Mike
Speaker 1: Jessecki tight end Dolphins. Those are some bigger names that
Speaker 1: can be tagged. Anything jump out to you with those
Speaker 1: names or any others. Yeah, that the majority of them
Speaker 1: will be attually, now that I think of its, sults
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense because the tight end number wouldn't
Speaker 1: be that high. Marcus Williams, for instance, not a big name,
Speaker 1: but was tagged a year ago. That's why that first
Speaker 1: list that I end up putting out everyone gets all excited.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of Mike Williams articles, by the way,
Speaker 1: and it's like, why would the Chargers not just tag them?
Speaker 1: They've got a ton of cap number this year, and
Speaker 1: they specifically have a ton of cap space and then
Speaker 1: you can work out the deal later. Some guys I
Speaker 1: think that God, when I think will be tag some
Speaker 1: guys that are great, it'll be near the top of
Speaker 1: list that. I don't think he'll be tag. Toron Armstead
Speaker 1: of the Saints. You know multiple time All Pro player
Speaker 1: Von Miller and O b j. They both can't be tagged.
Speaker 1: I don't know if either one will be. With the
Speaker 1: way the Rams are set up. Chandler Jones, I don't
Speaker 1: think will be. So there will be some good names,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't get all excited. Allen Robinson, I think
Speaker 1: your Jets might be in on him. Those are some
Speaker 1: good out he's he's I think the Jesse Bates thing
Speaker 1: is interesting with the Bengals, just because if they a
Speaker 1: tag Jesse Bates, then what's going to happen with c
Speaker 1: j Uzama? Because I think that he's a huge part
Speaker 1: of that offense and to have him with Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: there that's huge for Burrows. So they're they're kind of
Speaker 1: in a little bit of a bind there because obviously
Speaker 1: they're going to have to address a ton of resources
Speaker 1: to the offensive line and they don't have a high
Speaker 1: draft pick, so they're going to have to do that
Speaker 1: in free agency too. I misspoke. He was not tagged
Speaker 1: the year ago. That was that was a mistake, and
Speaker 1: we want to get everything right here. So he's an
Speaker 1: even bigger no brainer. No uh, No one made more
Speaker 1: money I feel like long term in the playoffs than
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates and von Miller because von Miller three months
Speaker 1: ago people were thinking we're on the downside, and he
Speaker 1: just looked like it was and he's going to free
Speaker 1: agency's he's gonna he made himself a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And Jesse Bates had a monster playoffs, so an he
Speaker 1: thought that they're not going to give him a great
Speaker 1: contract after kind of a down year. He had the
Speaker 1: worst down season I think regular season of his career.
Speaker 1: That that's generally the thought that he he was struggling.
Speaker 1: Maybe the contract was on his mind, who knows, but
Speaker 1: the way he's going to depaid. All right, let's move
Speaker 1: on Connie Well pivots to you anywhere you want to go,
Speaker 1: anywhere you want. There's nothing cryptic about gratitude. We have
Speaker 1: to start stare, I have to start as l there.
Speaker 1: I thought so too. I have so many questions about this,
Speaker 1: And I know you guys talked about the p K
Speaker 1: detox or whatever it is. Are you dialed in on
Speaker 1: what he did? On what this karma it involves. From
Speaker 1: what my quick reading of it, which was not quite pleasant,
Speaker 1: I would say lubricating your body from both ends and
Speaker 1: completely hollowing yourself out pretty much twelve days. I think
Speaker 1: it is a lot of vomiting, a lot of laxatives.
Speaker 1: Some animals I think are in many many animals don't
Speaker 1: even like saying that word. So I don't even know.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot with friends like these, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, okay, so there. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of questions before he went on, Pat McAfee. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that you said Aaron Rodgers name
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, right? Did I not say it? I don't
Speaker 1: know if you did. Oh. I just thought that everyone
Speaker 1: would know and I said nothing about gratitude. So let's
Speaker 1: rewind a little bit back and after the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: we heard the Rogers and Shaley Woodley broke up, and
Speaker 1: that obviously after NFL Honors when he won m v P,
Speaker 1: he said that he was going to take some time
Speaker 1: before he made a decision on his future because of
Speaker 1: Davante Adams being a free agent, all of that situation
Speaker 1: with the whole team. But then he puts this whole
Speaker 1: post on Instagram, and that's why we were talking about
Speaker 1: the Pancha Karma thing. What is it therapy detox? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why we're talking about Pancho Karma because
Speaker 1: he said that he was feeling very um, just renewed
Speaker 1: and refreshed and just could see very clearly. And so
Speaker 1: he posted about gratitude and this big long thing thanking
Speaker 1: Shaley Woodley and his teams and his family and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah blah blah. Then he went on Pat
Speaker 1: McAfee and he said that he still loves the game.
Speaker 1: It's given me a lot I can still play. He
Speaker 1: also said that he had some meetings that have been
Speaker 1: different than they were in the past in a positive
Speaker 1: way with Matt Lafleur and the higher ups as well.
Speaker 1: So there he didn't make any type of announcement. He
Speaker 1: didn't give any more clarity to his situation. But it
Speaker 1: sounds like maybe he's back with Shaleene Woodley. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It definitely did sound like that. That seems to be
Speaker 1: one of the more tangible news items where it's put
Speaker 1: back into a place where we can we can undo
Speaker 1: the previous announcement. Thank god. Okay, I'm just saying I'm
Speaker 1: with her on that. On that bright a reporter, by
Speaker 1: the way, he said that they could hear someone who
Speaker 1: sounded exactly like people thought it was the view during
Speaker 1: the television I could not care less about that whole situation,
Speaker 1: But go ahead, that's fair. I'm not that's the journal
Speaker 1: and you might not find that topic um relevant. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think number one him people were making the huge
Speaker 1: deal out of on that post the photo of Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb and Davante Adams with the space in between where
Speaker 1: he wasn't there, And I think the initial response was,
Speaker 1: is he like removing himself like a ghost from the
Speaker 1: packer's sideline. It's no, they he was. They actually did
Speaker 1: that when he missed the COVID game to say you
Speaker 1: would always be standing here so I do like the
Speaker 1: one thing is, I don't know if there are too
Speaker 1: many people that have been more annoyed with Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: over the past calendar year than myself. But this was
Speaker 1: like watching the whole Pat McAfee thing. I kind of
Speaker 1: take him at his word on most of what he
Speaker 1: was saying, because I do think it was not football
Speaker 1: like cryptology there. I think he was genuinely in this
Speaker 1: place where he had done this like physical cleanse and
Speaker 1: he was in a different state of mind. And the
Speaker 1: Davante Adams thing, he went out of his way to
Speaker 1: talk about how it was so important. That's the huge
Speaker 1: obvious like if they tag him, I think and they
Speaker 1: also he went on about Tom Clements, his old the
Speaker 1: coach who's coming back, who he's been aligned within the past,
Speaker 1: that if those two things happened, the overall vibe between
Speaker 1: him and the Packers leadership has been really positive. I
Speaker 1: mean he even talked about I think Delane or making
Speaker 1: them wait if I have this right, because he went
Speaker 1: out to dinner with like a flock of Buddhists and
Speaker 1: said that like it's things are so good that like
Speaker 1: he was, he was able to have the conversation when
Speaker 1: he came back with coach GM and everyone else he
Speaker 1: was talking about last offseason. Yeah, well that part through
Speaker 1: was like they were pounding beers in the in the
Speaker 1: driveway when he got back La Fleur and in another
Speaker 1: coach we're drinking I p a s in the in
Speaker 1: Rogers's driveway, waiting for him to get back from the
Speaker 1: Buddhist dinner. This this current conversation, those sounds positive. I
Speaker 1: just don't know why you'd go. I know you've got
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hacket in Denver, but like, what what is better
Speaker 1: than greenback for one more year? What happened Greg to
Speaker 1: the report last month? I won't draw this out. I
Speaker 1: won't leave the Packers hanging. He said that today too.
Speaker 1: He can we all right? Can we do it? Then?
Speaker 1: Because I can't. I can't. I can't do this. He's
Speaker 1: probably coming back, right, I don't know, Yeah, spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: he's coming. Yeah. But we just and he I take
Speaker 1: what I believe that he was feeling gratitude and he
Speaker 1: sent it out. But he also is on the record
Speaker 1: saying he likes to throw things out there and see
Speaker 1: if they're getting reaction. So he also knows a that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on McAfee the next day. He had
Speaker 1: already set that up when he sent it out, so
Speaker 1: it's all calculated like for maximum impact. And and he
Speaker 1: also knows that it's gonna lead the a block of
Speaker 1: ESPN and and NFL Network and and that's fine that
Speaker 1: he just it's okay that it's vague. He's having a
Speaker 1: little fun. But the spoiler alert, he's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the Packers. He he doesn't have much leverage anyways. He
Speaker 1: wants to be on the Packers. I think it is
Speaker 1: pretty clear. He wants to keep playing football is pretty clear.
Speaker 1: And maybe the leverage in terms of his contract and
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to figure out a new contract that
Speaker 1: he does have. Is not saying anything definitively at this moment,
Speaker 1: even if everyone kind of knows where it's going. He's
Speaker 1: keeping that card in his pocket because they're about to
Speaker 1: figure out his money for the next two to three years.
Speaker 1: He's definitely getting a contract extension if he's staying because
Speaker 1: they have to lower his cap it and that will
Speaker 1: help keep Davante Adams. And it's all connected. The p
Speaker 1: K Cleanse recently completed step one three days of g therapy,
Speaker 1: consume g a butter until you evacuate at both ends.
Speaker 1: Two one day of therapeutic vomiting, Oh my god. Three
Speaker 1: one day give me some like harps or something under
Speaker 1: this ky one day of laxative therapy, and four three
Speaker 1: days of herb drops in the nodes. It sounds like
Speaker 1: a very dehydrating explanation. Also, there's like a mental component
Speaker 1: number five many days of enemas man he number six
Speaker 1: yoga and meditation throughout. So this is what Mark did
Speaker 1: for the last of all days. And he looks like
Speaker 1: he he was doing this during NFL Honors, by the way,
Speaker 1: he talked about the fact that when he was up
Speaker 1: there he was talking to Taylor Basatti and others that
Speaker 1: he was in the middle of his well. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that it was paused on that part. I
Speaker 1: would have watched it. I'm just like, how like his
Speaker 1: room mus stink uh. I don't think you're the target
Speaker 1: audience for is it a weird He breaks up with
Speaker 1: shy In Woodley during the evacuation of both ends for
Speaker 1: twelve straight days. There's an action potential, you know. It
Speaker 1: is interesting though, because you talk about how everything with
Speaker 1: him is calculated, and he's very intentful with the way
Speaker 1: that he posts things, and he knows that he's going
Speaker 1: on McAfee. It's like it's like Russell Wilson tries to
Speaker 1: do that stuff and Aaron Rodgers actually don't. He's good
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, he's good at it. But since we
Speaker 1: probably are going to return to the Packers, I am
Speaker 1: really interested just in like what's going to happen these
Speaker 1: next three weeks. It's pretty complicated. They are fifty three
Speaker 1: million dollars over the cap, and you can figure it
Speaker 1: out with three structures. But that's kind of why they
Speaker 1: have to sign Rogers long term and I Adams that
Speaker 1: will lower that number mvs. Valda Scantling is a free agent,
Speaker 1: Rasul Douglas is a free agent. Devandre Campbell is a
Speaker 1: free agent. I think they make cut guys like Zadarius Smith,
Speaker 1: Preston Smith, and Mason Crosby. Like good Unst is going
Speaker 1: to be earning his money. He does have a lot
Speaker 1: to handle in the next month. And since you mentioned calculating,
Speaker 1: before we move on Bob McGinn, we all love Bob McGinn,
Speaker 1: a longtime Packers writer, Um wrote this week that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers has for years played a careful, calculating game. This
Speaker 1: is on the field, understanding that the number of interceptions
Speaker 1: plays as disproportionate nonsensical role in the passer rating formula.
Speaker 1: Bad interceptions are well bad than there are interceptions that
Speaker 1: are cost of doing business for unselfish competitive stats immune
Speaker 1: quarterbacks battling to make plays and lead comebacks until the
Speaker 1: bitter end. When a quarterback, especially one with a powerful,
Speaker 1: usually accurate arm like Rogers, deliberately minimize his chances to
Speaker 1: deliver a big play for fear of an interception, that's
Speaker 1: pretty that's withering criticism right there from Bob McGinn. Uh. Also,
Speaker 1: that is the back to back reigning m v P.
Speaker 1: So well, Bob McGinn has a notebook and it's on fire.
Speaker 1: So he's a little different than the people I was critiqued.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's getting some of that
Speaker 1: idea though from people that Rogers plays with two not
Speaker 1: that I think it's an unfair criticism essentially, but I
Speaker 1: think it was a huge factor in the playoff game,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where that's kind he was. He
Speaker 1: was very careful to not take chances in that playoffs.
Speaker 1: All right up, all right, um, okay, let's let's stay
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks. James Palmer had to report our guy,
Speaker 1: James Palmer, we all love him. I like it when
Speaker 1: he's breaking the news, and he broke the news last
Speaker 1: week while we were all in our bunkers that the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers have done a significant amount of homework into acquiring
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, which is the type of offseason little nugget
Speaker 1: drop that I just love because there is something delicious
Speaker 1: here about Tampa who does not feel like they should
Speaker 1: be taking a step back, and you know, looking what
Speaker 1: they have with Kyle Trask, which has been a little
Speaker 1: bit of a story story as you draft pick they
Speaker 1: took last year, give up everything for Russell Wilson, and
Speaker 1: that makes the Buck season in NFL season a lot
Speaker 1: more exciting. So I just hope there's some real fire
Speaker 1: there to that smoke. They also, I mean, he was
Speaker 1: Ian and Tom Pellicero on Super Bowl Sunday talked about
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson but also Deshaun Watson that they're doing a
Speaker 1: ton of work on him as well. So I'm with you.
Speaker 1: They seem like hell bent on number one. If you're
Speaker 1: bringing Bruce arians back. You're not wheeling out like an
Speaker 1: unknown rookie or second year player or someone else. I
Speaker 1: think it's like they want, they feel like they still
Speaker 1: have they have cap issues. They're gonna have to look
Speaker 1: at a couple of contracts too, but they still are
Speaker 1: in that super Bowl window, and so it's like you
Speaker 1: simply take Russell or Tom Brady and replace them with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I think the problem is is that during
Speaker 1: super Bowl Week, Russell Wilson, for his discontent a year ago,
Speaker 1: does not seem to be in that place personally. And
Speaker 1: like he said that his relationship and you have to
Speaker 1: buy this, it's probably nonsense, but that his relationship with
Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll's as good as it's ever been. And
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks have zero interest in parting with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson unless it was you know, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this and completely restart the organization. They don't just have that.
Speaker 1: They don't have vibe to me right now. But maybe
Speaker 1: the Bucks are that team that just give up like
Speaker 1: three first round draft picks and some I don't have
Speaker 1: players too that the Seahawks could use, like a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: They have like a deep roster and a lot of
Speaker 1: different spots. They could give up one of their zillion
Speaker 1: tight ends as well. I think what Seattle actually wants
Speaker 1: to do is an X factor of the whole offseason,
Speaker 1: because I don't think Russell Wilson's public comments mean anything.
Speaker 1: I put a lot more into Ian Rappidport and other
Speaker 1: insiders report that behind the scenes they want to investigate
Speaker 1: what's out there this offseason and that would be fun.
Speaker 1: And they want Aaron Rodgers too. And since we're on
Speaker 1: the subject of the Bucks and Bruce Arians, I'll dump
Speaker 1: out of the notebook the story from former nfl A
Speaker 1: lineman Rich Ornberger, who has a deep connection with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and others, and UH put it out there on
Speaker 1: Twitter that Burger there was heat between between Arians and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady d that perhaps fueled Brady's exit from that picture.
Speaker 1: UH and some of the UH and this is from Orneberger, Um,
Speaker 1: some of the heat came from Arians maybe not working
Speaker 1: all that hard and taking a red pen to the
Speaker 1: game plan that Brady would cook up with offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Byron left Witch, and there were the two men felt undermined.
Speaker 1: There was tension, and then Arians came out and said
Speaker 1: the report was quote such a bolt it pisces me
Speaker 1: off and noted that left which could corroborate this too,
Speaker 1: and then p F T H called out online a Q. Shipley,
Speaker 1: who is you know, a former player and a Buck
Speaker 1: staff member, as the source of this without knowing it,
Speaker 1: I mean, without knowing it was or not. They basically said,
Speaker 1: if you connect the dots, it was probably a Q. Shipley,
Speaker 1: who is you know, close to Arians and all this
Speaker 1: other business that came out with us, but you know,
Speaker 1: simply could have been on Shipley is close to Arians,
Speaker 1: he's on the Bucks staff, and so it's like they
Speaker 1: they p f T did not say this is the source.
Speaker 1: They were trying to publicly figure out where who might
Speaker 1: have spoken this. Well, my guy Ornburger, what a great
Speaker 1: offensive line name that is, backed it up and said
Speaker 1: he's he's um, he stands behind it, per multiple impregnable.
Speaker 1: That's not the only thing that he had to back
Speaker 1: up this week too, because he's the one who came
Speaker 1: out with the report that Patrick Mahomes supposedly banned his
Speaker 1: wife or his fiance, Brittany Matthews and games but then
Speaker 1: not be true. So Ornberger kind of was setting up
Speaker 1: as a huge week for the Ornberger brand with this
Speaker 1: report on Brady, who's, by the way coming back. And
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear anything else from anyone about
Speaker 1: this when it happens, because I called it even before
Speaker 1: he retired. This man is not retiring from football. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's not playing this year, but he'll be on some
Speaker 1: one's team next year. Absolutely, has anybody disagree at this clip,
Speaker 1: I certainly am wavering, but I don't. I definitely don't
Speaker 1: have if and when he does, the fact that he
Speaker 1: decided to get out of Dodge after tweears of Tampa,
Speaker 1: you can start to connect some dots. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: rain Burger is correct, but impregnable? Is that what he said?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty good to give. That is the
Speaker 1: adjective of your source. Yeah, I mean the Niners have
Speaker 1: been floated around as as a target or landing spot
Speaker 1: for Brady as well because it's his hometown, childhood team.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, all right, let's take a break
Speaker 1: and we'll get to Mr Sessler's notebook next. Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: To Mark celer, I mean when you're going forth, you're
Speaker 1: already operating. It's like the d block of the segments.
Speaker 1: So I I had my notebook resembled yours in many ways.
Speaker 1: You want you want some about this? Yeah, snakes to you.
Speaker 1: You get to do two in a row. So how
Speaker 1: do you feel like good about that? Well, now we're
Speaker 1: operating on equitable terrorist. Aaron Rodgers is on Pat mcavie show.
Speaker 1: Do they put him right off the top of the
Speaker 1: show or they wait an hour to build the audience.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's how this is this. I don't
Speaker 1: think the dynamic is the same here that the audience
Speaker 1: is waiting for me to go. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the whole point. That thirty second button, where's Mark? Where rosenthought? Alright,
Speaker 1: it's zero evidence of that. Like you're on the PK
Speaker 1: cleanse Mark, I'll give you something that I find totally disingenuous.
Speaker 1: Unless this organization has decided to totally veer off a cliff. Uh.
Speaker 1: The is so cleansed right now, and I love no
Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed by this because who's buying this this
Speaker 1: wind coming from Kevin Colbert Steelers saying that, look at
Speaker 1: we are perfectly comfortable with the idea of Mason Rudolph
Speaker 1: at today, at the season started today in quotes shooting
Speaker 1: the head, uh that Mason Rudolph, who has been five
Speaker 1: four and one as a starter, would be we'd be
Speaker 1: comfortable with our is our week one guy that we're
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to sell the house for other explosive options.
Speaker 1: And it is the athletics Mark Coboli, who also has
Speaker 1: kind of been pounding this drum over and over saying
Speaker 1: that the Steelers do not intend to be one of
Speaker 1: these players, for Russell Wilson, for Deshaun Watson fill in
Speaker 1: the blank. So I don't I think number one, it
Speaker 1: could be that they're not going after one of those dudes,
Speaker 1: but the idea and he's you know, they said, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna add quarterbacks, but not like guys that are
Speaker 1: real competition, Like you cannot tell me that Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: who has been talking for months now about the need
Speaker 1: for a mobile quarterback, a multiple tool quarterback, is gonna
Speaker 1: sit back and say we're gonna spend a season after
Speaker 1: we just dealt with a zombie Ben Roethlisberger a year
Speaker 1: ago and hang around with Mason Rudolph and see how
Speaker 1: that gets us in a division with Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. We've been doing this, man factured, Joe, thank you.
Speaker 1: We've been doing this for a long time, right Mark.
Speaker 1: I think if you want to kind of peel back
Speaker 1: a layer here is a kind of a kiss of
Speaker 1: death for a front office figure at this time of
Speaker 1: the year to say, like we feel comfortable with so
Speaker 1: and so, that almost always means that guy's cook. I
Speaker 1: just don't buy it at bubbling up. So it's like
Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert said, no plans to sell out to get
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's replacement. But at the same time, if you're
Speaker 1: falling the Senior Bowl and this pre draft process, which
Speaker 1: is already cooking, the Steelers are heavily involved right now
Speaker 1: and scouting the quarterback backs out there. So maybe they're
Speaker 1: not gonna go and try to trade their the farm
Speaker 1: to get some player out there, like a Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: or whoever you want to throw in there, but they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna draft somebody, right Yeah, well, I mean they
Speaker 1: at this point they kind of have to like saying Rudolph.
Speaker 1: At this point, um would be the number one quarterback.
Speaker 1: The only option really is like what else? That's it? Like,
Speaker 1: don't have any other options? And Rudolf, I guess has
Speaker 1: the most experience there because it's like he's the only
Speaker 1: guy there right now. Right Like Washington could say that
Speaker 1: Taylor Heinach is their quarterback today, the Saints could say
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is the only thing that told me was
Speaker 1: like they had a press conference, you know, and they
Speaker 1: had to answer the question, and I think it gets
Speaker 1: to their internal thinking that they probably will bring in
Speaker 1: Adalton or a Brissette or a cam or a Teddy
Speaker 1: if he gets cheap enough, Like what about Jimmy g Right,
Speaker 1: there's a million of these guys. Actually, when I was
Speaker 1: doing the free agent list, man, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks available, Tyrod Trabisky, you want to throw Mariota
Speaker 1: in there, There's there's a lot that are available, like
Speaker 1: of that one B level, and those guys are all
Speaker 1: probably a little bit better than Mason Rudolph. So they're
Speaker 1: kind of in this spot where it's like we're not
Speaker 1: gonna go big fish hunt team. Maybe we'll look for
Speaker 1: a rookie. If we get stuck with taking like a
Speaker 1: one B option that winds up beating out Rudolph, then fine,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna spend crazy this. First of all, get
Speaker 1: Dayne Haskins out of my building. Bye. They already they're
Speaker 1: picking up in is. You know, well, this is what
Speaker 1: I Then I would sign your boy Teddy Bridgewater, who's
Speaker 1: a free agent. And I would imagine if I'm saying,
Speaker 1: at this point, despite your longtime love, it's starting, he's
Speaker 1: starting to He's a rich man's gino Smith that I
Speaker 1: think at some point his price tag is gonna have
Speaker 1: to come down for If you want a guy throws
Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns and seven interceptions in fourteen games, yeah he's
Speaker 1: your guy. But I'm saying, if you bring in a
Speaker 1: nice veteran option like Teddy as a bridge guy and
Speaker 1: then draft somebody in the first round, then I now
Speaker 1: we're talking. Okay, that's what I think. I just think
Speaker 1: based on the way they're talking, they might see Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph as in a similar tier of Teddy Bridgewater and
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. If I had to get I hope they
Speaker 1: will still be making more than ten million dollars a
Speaker 1: year next year. The one issue if he's gonna make
Speaker 1: twenty anymore, but I think he will be near the
Speaker 1: top of this pile of the free agents, which kind
Speaker 1: of make an in between amount of money. Pittsburgh also
Speaker 1: sits at number twenty in the draft, and so if
Speaker 1: if they not, we're not going to swing for the fences,
Speaker 1: means you're going to trade up. Guys like Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 1: who went to pitt who would be a nice story
Speaker 1: for the Steelers won't be there. You've got the Panthers
Speaker 1: at number six, the Texans who have to find a
Speaker 1: new quarterback unless they're married to Davis Mills at number three.
Speaker 1: So I don't arter sit there. They'll sit there. They
Speaker 1: sat and waited for Roethlisberger, which was risky at the time.
Speaker 1: I remember that was a big conversation and they were
Speaker 1: rewarded there weren't. There aren't six quarterbacks in this draft.
Speaker 1: I could. I could definitely see them trading up from
Speaker 1: twenty to ten or so. I could totally. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I think that they the whole like,
Speaker 1: we're sitting back and we're chill with Mason Rudolph, Like, like,
Speaker 1: go ahead and do what the Ravens, Bengals and Browns
Speaker 1: want you to do and see how that works out.
Speaker 1: Maybe dock Hodges is the future Ducks. I forgot about him.
Speaker 1: Remember Mason Rudolf, I mean, if nothing else, he averaged
Speaker 1: more quarters per start than any quarterback in the league
Speaker 1: last year. One start, five quarters of action. Pretty good, nice,
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Speaker 1: very clear to point out to the reader, like this reporter,
Speaker 1: just like Brain of Salt. Please but jud Zelgat, who
Speaker 1: did for a long time work for the Minneapolis Star Tribute,
Speaker 1: now works for Score. North Um reported Monday that the
Speaker 1: Panthers have called the Vikings about about a possible trade
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins. Then, well, I believe today though this
Speaker 1: happened on the Pat McAfee show that Rapp Reports said,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any truth to that Panther's item.
Speaker 1: But I do wonder in general on the Kirk Cousins scenario,
Speaker 1: like a would a team come calling for a guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna cost thirty five million, has one more year
Speaker 1: on his contract when Kevin O'Connell's in Minnesota with no
Speaker 1: other answer if they gave him away. I don't see
Speaker 1: that happening. It's just I kind of thought that Cousins
Speaker 1: could be movable at one point, and they, maybe under
Speaker 1: Zimmer would want to move him like that thing was
Speaker 1: just getting ugly. But now he feels more cemented in
Speaker 1: for the next year, just because what other option is there? Yeah, Carolina, man,
Speaker 1: they are just so thirsty for a quarterback right now too.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna they're gonna call everybody and anybody.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they botched the Donald deal so
Speaker 1: bad and everybody knew it when they paid him so
Speaker 1: much upfront without any type of evidence on the field,
Speaker 1: and they try to get Matthew Stafford and got rebut
Speaker 1: done that right, And there were the reports about the
Speaker 1: fact that they were trying to get to Shaun Watson
Speaker 1: at some point too, and then that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: They obviously tried out Teddy that didn't work out either.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what they're gonna do, but matt
Speaker 1: Rule needs a quarterback to save his job next season. Right.
Speaker 1: Ian made it clear in his mind that the Vikings
Speaker 1: aren't interested in trading him that he I don't know
Speaker 1: if he doubted that the Panthers actually did call. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering why that, Like, who is benefiting from that news
Speaker 1: getting out there? I don't know, Maybe Kirk Cousins. I
Speaker 1: suppose that if he wanted to sign a contract. Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell there, you know, their new head coach worked with
Speaker 1: him in Washington, so they are very familiar with each other.
Speaker 1: And he was pretty set during his press conference that
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was his guy. But he did live at
Speaker 1: live a little like, well he is on the roster
Speaker 1: with an answer, he said, he's anticipating that he would
Speaker 1: be like, that's an interesting word to They're open minded
Speaker 1: on it. Right, if someone really came for Kirk and
Speaker 1: that that contract and they could save that much, probably
Speaker 1: would help the Vikings a long term, unless you think
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has a Super Bowl running him, which I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we're pretty well established on
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins. Just this is Matthew Stafford like part
Speaker 1: two here, No, I don't know. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: what do we say about Matthew Stafford two months ago? Well,
Speaker 1: he said he was what he was in Detroit and
Speaker 1: he's that guy's I think most people would would agree
Speaker 1: that Matthew Stafford is a better option at quarterback than
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I mean, Kirk Cousins gets lamb based it
Speaker 1: too much. I get that, and you look at the
Speaker 1: stats and the numbers, but there's something about the experience that's,
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna his little cut out plexiglass thing
Speaker 1: all last season. It's just not, you know, not a
Speaker 1: bridge bild. I don't know if Kirk Cousins takes the
Speaker 1: Rams down the field in the last five minutes of
Speaker 1: that Super I don't think they're in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, let's say he had to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he really they melt Tampa in
Speaker 1: that scenario. I think that's the whole Cousins. I mean,
Speaker 1: their careers are similar be Cousins, if anything. You know,
Speaker 1: Cousins maybe individually you know, more Pro Bowls that that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, But I think league wide you would
Speaker 1: have always rated Stafford above Cousins were you replacing him, though,
Speaker 1: who's going to be for the first time coach? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Does does Kirk Cousins talk about having those dark spaces
Speaker 1: he needs to go to? No, he does not. Matt.
Speaker 1: The one thing you learn more about Matthew Stafford in
Speaker 1: l A. Was that the Matthew Stafford, the person, the
Speaker 1: fire inside of him, was a little different. I don't
Speaker 1: get that with Kirk Cousins on any levels and Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna come back to him. Uh, Greg, you're
Speaker 1: up next, all right, let's um, let's go to the Saints.
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting, uh as I was looking
Speaker 1: through my note notebook here that Pete Carmichael, who was
Speaker 1: widely reported to have turned down the Saints offensive coordinator job,
Speaker 1: was eventually convinced into taking it after Jay Gruden uh
Speaker 1: interviewed for the job. And it continues this theme with
Speaker 1: the Saints, which I find really interesting that they're just
Speaker 1: trying to bring everything back. They're they're almost bringing back
Speaker 1: the team and the coaching staff as if Sean Payton's
Speaker 1: gonna change his mind, and they wanted all set up
Speaker 1: for him when he gets back. Our friend Mark Adam
Speaker 1: uh At at the Saints Twitter podcast, you know, he
Speaker 1: they were reporting on this car Michael thing that like, look,
Speaker 1: he wanted to take a step back, and and that
Speaker 1: was widely reported out there. And yet they've they've basically
Speaker 1: brought back their entire coaching staff, even guys like Doug
Speaker 1: Morone who were there before are now there again. And
Speaker 1: it's almost like everyone just wants to keep their jobs
Speaker 1: there and so they don't want to bring in anyone
Speaker 1: from the outside that could possibly disrupt them keeping their
Speaker 1: jobs and they want to keep this, you know, money
Speaker 1: trained essentially on the tracks, and that might include Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: and that part makes sense to me. Catherine Terrell Uh
Speaker 1: noted that almost every statement out of the Saints UH
Speaker 1: is very positive about Mike Thomas, knowing that they're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to trade him or anything like that,
Speaker 1: and that they fully expect him to be back, that
Speaker 1: their best chance to have a legitimate team this year
Speaker 1: is with Michael Thomas. And I just don't know if
Speaker 1: that's like the best way to run an organization. And
Speaker 1: then everyone is just trying to stay the exact same
Speaker 1: and retain their jobs, Like, isn't this a time where
Speaker 1: they should be changing a little bit? I don't know.
Speaker 1: So is that what they end up doing with the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Did they bring back Jamie? That's Jamie's coming back? I
Speaker 1: mean Carmichael. Maybe something was going on Carmichael's life where
Speaker 1: he didn't want this role or something. It was strange
Speaker 1: because Greg we talked about it before the Super Bowl, like, well,
Speaker 1: he's been there since like the Nixon administration, and he
Speaker 1: seemed like the obvious guy for the o C. The
Speaker 1: one year that he played that role, he didn't, I
Speaker 1: mean when exclusively when when Peyton wasn't there, they they
Speaker 1: were successful. So it's like he seemed like the perfect
Speaker 1: person for it. But then you're interviewing Jake Gruden and
Speaker 1: then naming him the guy who didn't really want the
Speaker 1: job the Giants. It's the seven snasher? What's going on there?
Speaker 1: Something I go back to Jamis Winston, that was a
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick that did not work out
Speaker 1: across five years. Well this is the yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be wild? All right, who's up? I think you are?
Speaker 1: I think I'm up? Okay, I'm up? What you got left? Exciting?
Speaker 1: Brian Flor's got a job? How about that? How about that? Now?
Speaker 1: I think the ultimate test in this Flora situation, who,
Speaker 1: as we all know, has an active UH lawsuit against
Speaker 1: the NFL three teams um citing racial discrimination and faulty practices,
Speaker 1: and he gets a job as a senior defensive assistant
Speaker 1: with the Steelers. And that's cool. And he's gonna be
Speaker 1: working under Mike Tomlin, another black coach. That's cool. And
Speaker 1: the question to me though here Connie, is does he
Speaker 1: actually get a head coaching job? So this is good,
Speaker 1: This is I guess you could call progress because Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick never even got back into the league as a backup.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering and time will telling this if Flores gets
Speaker 1: another job as a head coach. But I think it
Speaker 1: was a nice olive branch um, not necessarily from the NFL,
Speaker 1: but from the coaches and the league in certain and
Speaker 1: another from another perspective that he is now back in
Speaker 1: football and won't be out of football entirely after that
Speaker 1: lawsuit was filed, right because I'm sure he was thinking
Speaker 1: that he might not have another shot to get another
Speaker 1: job at all in any capacity in the NFL. It's
Speaker 1: not surprising one bit that he landed in Pittsburgh with
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Um. I still have a lot of doubts
Speaker 1: though that he's going to land a head coaching gig
Speaker 1: in the NFL going forward. I think that it's a
Speaker 1: great fit there in Pittsburgh with him and Tomlin and
Speaker 1: Harrell Austin as well. I think it will be able
Speaker 1: to do really fun things with that defense. But going forward,
Speaker 1: I think that Brian Flores has a tough road to
Speaker 1: to get through to become a head coach. This is
Speaker 1: a huge step though, and it's like, I think you've
Speaker 1: got to get it's, you know, through the machinations of
Speaker 1: staff changes if he gets back in Pittsburgh to a
Speaker 1: coordinator level at some point, because I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: it's like we all kind of say, we all get
Speaker 1: that he's a really good coach. I mean, what he
Speaker 1: did with Miami was is extremely impressive. There's all this
Speaker 1: other stuff that was going on. It's like I see
Speaker 1: it a little differently than some of the Kaepernick stuff
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's like galvanizing um like a
Speaker 1: sector of the public that like is conflating it with
Speaker 1: political stuff. At the same time, this is very clearly
Speaker 1: a legitimate complaint by Brian Flores that I think the
Speaker 1: difference I would like to see there are more coaches
Speaker 1: that feel the way that he feels, but they're not
Speaker 1: putting their name on the line. He's sort of hanging
Speaker 1: out there by himself and the Steelers of all organizations
Speaker 1: said you've got a place with us, Like the Rooney
Speaker 1: rule is not working, but the Rooney's like in action,
Speaker 1: did something here to change that? Right? And if if
Speaker 1: this lawsuit didn't happen and Flora you have told me
Speaker 1: before the off season this is flores role for actually
Speaker 1: wouldn't been that surprising. You know, this is what happens
Speaker 1: sometimes to not get one of the nine open jobs,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been shocking. No. I mean, if maybe
Speaker 1: it's like fifty fifty would have gotten one, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't get back right away that Peterson won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, didn't give and these are the types
Speaker 1: of jobs that they often take. The difference is this
Speaker 1: lawsuits ongoing, and so that that's the bigger story. He
Speaker 1: his attorney said that they are waiting for the NFL
Speaker 1: to essentially ask them for the evidence that he has
Speaker 1: against Dolphins owner Stephen Ross in terms of uh intentionally
Speaker 1: trying to lose games and the accusations that they put
Speaker 1: in the lawsuit that he was offered a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to do that. And you know, Roger Goodell pointedly
Speaker 1: at that press conference at the Super Bowl, said that, look,
Speaker 1: owners can vote other owners out, and to me, that
Speaker 1: is one thing I'm gonna be tracking this this season
Speaker 1: because he still has a chance, Brian Flores to be
Speaker 1: the first coach to ever fire an owner. Essentially. I
Speaker 1: mean he got fired by by Stephen Ross and that's
Speaker 1: part of the lawsuit going back and like that's that's
Speaker 1: not any anytime soon. That would be the ultimate vengeance, Oh,
Speaker 1: big time. The the vengeance scale would be off the charts.
Speaker 1: It's a twelve out of ten. Connie, you're okay, let
Speaker 1: me page through the notebook. Yeah, alright here Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: what's the deal? So the Colts be writer? One of them,
Speaker 1: Zach Kiefer, who's awesome. You guys should follow him. He
Speaker 1: said that he thinks Wentz is obviously gonna get traded
Speaker 1: or straight cut before um or during free agency. He
Speaker 1: said that in light of some conversations over the last
Speaker 1: six or seven days, it's my full expectation that he's
Speaker 1: moved by the end of this free agency period. Whether
Speaker 1: that's a cut or a trade remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: I think this is a when situation, not an if situation.
Speaker 1: I think the decision has been made. So yesterday, which
Speaker 1: was Monday, since we're recording on Tuesday. Uh huh, marked
Speaker 1: the one year anniversary of the trade that the Eagles
Speaker 1: made with the Cults for Carson Wentz, and I get
Speaker 1: the sense that ownership is not thrilled with the Wentz
Speaker 1: experience and that this whole reunion between him and Frank
Speaker 1: Reich just did not go as they had planned. We
Speaker 1: know that Jim rcay tweeted back on January you can
Speaker 1: see clear as day in the final eight NFL team playoffs,
Speaker 1: you need a quarterback and offense who can score thirty
Speaker 1: or more in regulation and a defense that can hold
Speaker 1: an opponent under thirty exclamation point. So there was the
Speaker 1: epic collapse to close out the Sea, He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to throw in this defense line to really throw
Speaker 1: him off the side, right. But the way that they
Speaker 1: finished out the year was a massive disappointment. They started
Speaker 1: the season with Carson Wentz hurt and just this is
Speaker 1: a very quarterback friendly offense with the offensive line that
Speaker 1: they have and Jonathan Taylor there, so you would think
Speaker 1: that he was set up to really succeed. But I
Speaker 1: don't even know who the upgrade would be that is
Speaker 1: an excellent tease by the Tiny Box. For Thursday's podcast, uh,
Speaker 1: we will have zach Key for himself. Keifer will be
Speaker 1: on to discuss Carson Wentz and the Colts quarterback conundrum,
Speaker 1: because it's fascinating I think about this Guy's good to
Speaker 1: have different branding for the program. What if we kind
Speaker 1: of go through the shows the next six weeks or so,
Speaker 1: we call it the flash Point Figures of the NFL,
Speaker 1: and maybe flashpoint Figures colon Carson Wentz, we hit him
Speaker 1: and their situation this week, maybe hits something different every week.
Speaker 1: I told you Dan was a showman, and like he
Speaker 1: came up with that on the fly while we were
Speaker 1: doing the show. And last point figures, what do you
Speaker 1: think maybe that we can workshout the name flashy man.
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's let's stick a pin in that conversation.
Speaker 1: But it's very good that you brought that up. Plug
Speaker 1: All right now, I'm up. Next, we need to get
Speaker 1: one of the great women connected to be around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast and we've been blessed in that department over
Speaker 1: the years. First it live appearance on the show. She
Speaker 1: is the great Alexandra Better known as Frags. She works.
Speaker 1: She's a key figure on the network side and also
Speaker 1: one of the great voice artists of our generation. What's up,
Speaker 1: Free Eggs? That was quite the intro. Now. I went
Speaker 1: up to Frags in the newsroom and I said, you
Speaker 1: are the voice famously of La Ravio magnifico, which, if
Speaker 1: you're not aware of what that is, that's when someone
Speaker 1: says or does something that without even realizing it, that
Speaker 1: person is telling you so much about them And um, Frags,
Speaker 1: this one that I'm about to share with with the
Speaker 1: group is such an on point example that we needed
Speaker 1: to get you in here live to do it, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Kind of came up to you in
Speaker 1: the newsroom and you didn't come up to me. You
Speaker 1: ran into my chair and like slipped underneath me, thing
Speaker 1: it is the off season though, that's a good sign. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she would be free to come here. Yeah, right, I can't.
Speaker 1: Just to make it clear to the audience, I came
Speaker 1: and I sat in Frag's chair while her backward turn
Speaker 1: and then she turned around. I was there. That's a
Speaker 1: real he said, she said, because her description was markedly different.
Speaker 1: I'm not used to being live normally I get to
Speaker 1: rehearse these things. That's good though. But you know, we
Speaker 1: we talked about what the cadence would be, So let's
Speaker 1: let's let's try it, Ricky, since we're doing live, break
Speaker 1: out the harp and and you just lay give us
Speaker 1: one and not gonna call for it a couple of
Speaker 1: times maybe, but here's the first one. Wait for the harp.
Speaker 1: I feel magnifico. Frad Stafford at the Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 1: Victory Parade. He's on stage the photographer and listen. We
Speaker 1: can get into the photographer's backstory later if you want.
Speaker 1: Kelly Smiley, Um, she is on the stage. She takes
Speaker 1: a false step backwards. She falls off the stage. It
Speaker 1: turns out that she fractured a spine, broke her two cameras.
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, who was feeling no pain, was right in
Speaker 1: front of the woman as she stepped back and fell.
Speaker 1: He does a one eight turn, walks away, arms up
Speaker 1: like I'm not dealing with this right now. Kelly Stafford
Speaker 1: rolls up real quick. How is this woman that just
Speaker 1: fell off the stage? I think that is a big
Speaker 1: time hit it. What do you think? Fred Stafford with
Speaker 1: a walk away in a big spot Mark the video was,
Speaker 1: I mean, the video was what the video was. It
Speaker 1: just did not look good. It's like he he saw
Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, he didn't probably comprehend the end result,
Speaker 1: but he saw the woman fall off the stage and
Speaker 1: he basically turned and bolted. It just it was it.
Speaker 1: It went viral for that reason. I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: in the end result, they are pain for all her
Speaker 1: medical bills and her cameras. It's like, that's all like
Speaker 1: pr I know, I understand, I understand if it played
Speaker 1: a role. Trust me, do you why why are you
Speaker 1: not supposed? Why you're not allowed? And why shouldn't you
Speaker 1: ever drive a car under the influence of alcohol because
Speaker 1: your decision making is impaired. So that is the only
Speaker 1: thing I have to No, not I'm not but here
Speaker 1: he actually, here's where I I totally disagree. Is that
Speaker 1: in that that's that thing happened. It was a very
Speaker 1: regrettable moment. It's good that she was kind of representing
Speaker 1: the two of them she got and that she covered.
Speaker 1: I think if this hadn't become a story, if there
Speaker 1: was no video of it, that they would have found
Speaker 1: out exactly what would have happened. And they would have
Speaker 1: taken care of it quietly, and they, the Rams and
Speaker 1: Stafford would have paid for all the medical events because
Speaker 1: that's what that's what good people do and that and
Speaker 1: that would have been the story. So so to me,
Speaker 1: that's like, you don't need to pile on. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he feels, hey, I'm not piling on to me, just
Speaker 1: like that would happen. That would have happened, whether there's
Speaker 1: a video or not, is my point. It's in that
Speaker 1: zone of the law reveal. I mean, it's just I
Speaker 1: think it brought out our minds initially. I like it
Speaker 1: that he was over the legal limit for sure and
Speaker 1: loose and you're not making the same decisions. Greg. What
Speaker 1: you're saying obviously makes sense, But ultimately the final decider
Speaker 1: has to be Frag's herself coming in with her own
Speaker 1: analysis on the frad Stafford walk away. Oh I was
Speaker 1: not told I had to give it. Oh. Um, listen,
Speaker 1: We've all we've all been feeling the way Matt Stafford felt,
Speaker 1: and I probably would have reacted the same exact way.
Speaker 1: It was very shocking, and I don't totally understand why
Speaker 1: it's his fault that someone fell off the stage. By
Speaker 1: the construction teams. It's not his fault. It's just not
Speaker 1: an ultimately, it is his fault though that he's even
Speaker 1: if if you're putting the drink on it, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's still your fault ultimately, because and you see the
Speaker 1: video of that, if you're a marat Stafford and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Because to be clear, I'm not giving
Speaker 1: him a pass at all. I know no matter how
Speaker 1: intoxicated I was, I would be running. You just wave
Speaker 1: security overway. I got arrested in high school because I
Speaker 1: was like helping the girl whose house it was who
Speaker 1: threw the party I was. She was throwing up and
Speaker 1: I was like holding her hair back and got arrested.
Speaker 1: I was helping her. That doesn't seem I got arrested
Speaker 1: from mail fraud in high school, and I also felt
Speaker 1: innocent of the of it. Was it enjoyable to argue
Speaker 1: with Greg and the rest of us freg's It was fantastic. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for having me, Dan. Welcome to
Speaker 1: her to come sit at my desk anytime we can.
Speaker 1: I get break me off a piece of that brisket,
Speaker 1: Jake brisket, break me off a piece of that Jake
Speaker 1: Brisket Brisket, Yeah, can we just hand the whole show
Speaker 1: over to you? At this point, he's going to be
Speaker 1: like and say, right now, he's going to be a
Speaker 1: free agent, so we could definitely have some Jake Brisket
Speaker 1: continent crazy. Oh yeah, give us one of those. What
Speaker 1: was it? Mark? You're so crazy? Mark, You're so crazy?
Speaker 1: I'm good, what a talent. I'm out of here. Frag's Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sark's going to be about that legend. What a surprise.
Speaker 1: She's gonna be a little upset with me that I
Speaker 1: put her on the spot there, I could tell. But
Speaker 1: we've been working together for a long time, all of us. So,
Speaker 1: so do you get a pass? I hope, So, I
Speaker 1: hope I do. All right, let's move on. Oh let's
Speaker 1: I don't want to double dip here, but I've been told,
Speaker 1: for production reasons, we need to hit this one next,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go twice here. Apologies this situation. Check
Speaker 1: this out. I know you guys probably saw this, but
Speaker 1: I want to touch on it. A huge flock of
Speaker 1: birds that suddenly plunged to the ground in Mexico. It
Speaker 1: happened earlier this month. We want to warn you. The
Speaker 1: video you're about to see is graphic. The video is
Speaker 1: chilling too. It shows the yellow headed blackbirds suddenly fall
Speaker 1: from the sky. What many of them died, others did
Speaker 1: fly away, and the reason behind their rapid plunge remains unclear,
Speaker 1: but some experts say that blackbirds may have been trying
Speaker 1: to escape a predatory birds swooping in from above. Wow. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: well apparently you have not seen that. Connie, like the
Speaker 1: other person, heard of this really okay, well terrify, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that happened in Mexico, and just we don't need to,
Speaker 1: you know, dive deep here. But I have a I'll
Speaker 1: put a sandwich on it. Perhaps that this is the
Speaker 1: sign of the next huge thing for humanity that we're
Speaker 1: dealing with. That that uh like an m not Night's
Speaker 1: Shamalan type of way this is. There's gonna be other
Speaker 1: unexplained things. They're gonna start happening over the next six months,
Speaker 1: and it's going to become one of the major talking points.
Speaker 1: I won't I won't take you because I totally agree
Speaker 1: with you. It's like, Hey, we've tweated the earth like
Speaker 1: utter crap and garbage endlessly since we've arrived and suddenly
Speaker 1: nature is starting to rebel right the animals. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be getting some revenge they're coming from, well, the birds.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a death dive for probably hundreds
Speaker 1: of them. So I don't know what revenge they're getting there.
Speaker 1: They got a bit of a raw deal. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go down this rab a hole.
Speaker 1: I need to find out more. Like I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: like bird experts on this case because I've become I've
Speaker 1: been starting to watch birds. I'm eighty years old, and
Speaker 1: I don't on the branch my sunburst now include a
Speaker 1: cup of tea bird watching. Um. That is jarring all
Speaker 1: right anyway, So if you guys want to take me
Speaker 1: up on that. Wait, that's what is this? This is
Speaker 1: a sandwich. It's a sign of some type of global reckoning,
Speaker 1: humanity reckoning. Okay, So I don't like that at all,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna leave it open ended for the next
Speaker 1: two years. So well, I'll take you again. I want
Speaker 1: to root for you. Know that not happening. Um, but
Speaker 1: I think you could put sandwiches separately on Connie becoming
Speaker 1: an ornithologist. Yeah, maybe it was maybe the birds were
Speaker 1: experiencing Havana syndrome. Um. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: are dialed in on this, but high level national security
Speaker 1: officers have been stricken with explained illnesses on the White
Speaker 1: House grounds also internationally a k a. Havanna syndrome. It's
Speaker 1: something Mark that you should dial in on it. I will,
Speaker 1: I mean stuff belting. I don't know why we just
Speaker 1: would continue just to drive around and like go to
Speaker 1: subway and eat all the food we want, have a
Speaker 1: nice time. Interesting. He always brings it back to food
Speaker 1: in no just like, well, no, if you don't think
Speaker 1: that the way that we produce food in general is
Speaker 1: quite disturbing to the earth and too many people and
Speaker 1: it could be better. I think Subway, which is an
Speaker 1: NFL sponsor. Here we go right with some of the
Speaker 1: best high quality is low low to vegetables. Do we
Speaker 1: still do they still have the r G three like
Speaker 1: roast beef touchdown. Walker made me made me go to
Speaker 1: something like this is how advertising actually works. Like he
Speaker 1: just is obsessed with the subway ads he loves and
Speaker 1: all the other thing and they made me go to subway.
Speaker 1: So that was the first time in about twenty years
Speaker 1: and it's pretty much the same. I would say, unbe
Speaker 1: elevitfl sandwiches over there, those sandwich artists, you just can't
Speaker 1: be there. Great operation strike everything I've said previously. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be back. All right, we're back,
Speaker 1: We're past Where are we that? How much time do
Speaker 1: we have left, Ricky? We are at forty seven minutes, right,
Speaker 1: So it's time to truly now empty out the notebook.
Speaker 1: So let's speed things up a little bit and try
Speaker 1: to get around the horn a couple of times each. Greggy,
Speaker 1: all right, Uh, I'll do a quick one. Since we're
Speaker 1: talking rams in that parade in Stafford. Reason I went.
Speaker 1: I went with my kids. I took them out of
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't go to school until like afternoon.
Speaker 1: They were quite tardy that day. I figured this doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: uh too often. Ellis got to be at the game,
Speaker 1: and that was like amazing. She she gotta ti eyed
Speaker 1: when the rams one, So she's like really attached. And
Speaker 1: and the reason I bring it up here more it's
Speaker 1: like it was a delightful experience. And I saw after
Speaker 1: the fact l A was taking a lot of grief
Speaker 1: of like like shots of empty stre eats or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think, first of all, those are taken
Speaker 1: before the parade. I don't know, it's not it's I
Speaker 1: was a reporter, boots on the ground. I was in
Speaker 1: a packed train in public transportation going down full of
Speaker 1: a pretty young but diverse group of Rams fan and
Speaker 1: where we were it was like totally packed. Now, granted,
Speaker 1: is it going to be packed as much as almost
Speaker 1: any other NFL city. No, And it's obvious for why
Speaker 1: those reasons for that word, But I don't know. It's like,
Speaker 1: why at this point in human history do we have
Speaker 1: to reign on other people having a good time if
Speaker 1: it makes them happy. And all I'm saying is it
Speaker 1: was packed to the point where my kids were sort
Speaker 1: of freaked out and frightened by how packed it was,
Speaker 1: you know, like that was almost like an issue. There
Speaker 1: was too many people there, uh for for us, But
Speaker 1: it was really nice little afternoon. I worry what your
Speaker 1: kids would be like if you took him down the
Speaker 1: Canyon of Heroes. If the Knicks wanna, it's a lot
Speaker 1: there's people behind pushing up on you, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're trying to get a luck. Cooper Cups going by
Speaker 1: and whatnot. That's good experience parade. I went to one
Speaker 1: victory parade the nineties, six Yankees, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, how I did this right? I don't really
Speaker 1: I don't quite get the appeal. But it's like it's
Speaker 1: for kids, I think, right, Like the all they wanted
Speaker 1: was the confetti to be the confetti cannons, and those
Speaker 1: were happening and that that's all they needed. In Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: they put Chris Go on the poles. Yeah, grease poles.
Speaker 1: I was one of the things. I like that maneuver
Speaker 1: that was back on. They still climbed, Oh yeah, still up.
Speaker 1: There's a basically it's like a competition every year in
Speaker 1: the Italian market where people have to climb a grease
Speaker 1: pole in the Italian meets over here. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: see the Hollywood sign? How they put Brand's house? So
Speaker 1: that didn't work? That does that does not work for
Speaker 1: me at any level. Just stay away. Well it would
Speaker 1: have worked if it looked good, but it was the city.
Speaker 1: The city put it up, and it looked like a
Speaker 1: bunch of amateurs in a windstorm putting it up. With
Speaker 1: what happens the city filled with like people that work
Speaker 1: on movie sets in prop departments. Right, how about the
Speaker 1: game like six? Technically, you know adequate set designers to
Speaker 1: do something that gets the old Bart SIPs and at
Speaker 1: least you tried birthday cake, Giff, the execution was off Alright.
Speaker 1: I would look at the Giants for one minute because
Speaker 1: you know, while we were all off on Super Bowl
Speaker 1: week GM, Joe Shane their new GM. You know they
Speaker 1: have Brian Dable there and it's like, do you want
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running and surround Daniel Jones with
Speaker 1: a ton of talent? But they have met Dave Gettleman
Speaker 1: left them in cap hell and there are whispers now
Speaker 1: or just con you know, trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: they do to get out of the twelve million over?
Speaker 1: Is it possible you've trade Sae Kwon Barkley at this point?
Speaker 1: Who could save you seven point two? I know who.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's trading for him, but there could
Speaker 1: be someone out there. But James Bradberry is probably a
Speaker 1: cap hit. He's he's he's gonna be He's earns twenty
Speaker 1: one point nine million. Blake Martinez has a fourteen million
Speaker 1: dollar capit. That seems insane to me. Kenny Golladay. He
Speaker 1: makes twenty one million over the next three years. I
Speaker 1: just wonder if the Giants, even though you want to
Speaker 1: set day ball up as well as you can, is
Speaker 1: there like a raw uster gutting of some sort coming here,
Speaker 1: because I think a they totally envisioned a different team
Speaker 1: than Gettleman left behind, which was a failed team. And
Speaker 1: it might be a tough year or two for Dable.
Speaker 1: It's not just for hitting the ground with Josh Allen
Speaker 1: in year three. Well, I keep thinking about Mitch Drabinsky
Speaker 1: and this is I can't believe this the second time
Speaker 1: and bring him up, and I keep thinking about whether
Speaker 1: or not he's going to end up with Brian Dable
Speaker 1: and the Giants as like a competition piece for Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: because he only signed that one year deal in Buffalo
Speaker 1: and he came out and said that I'm in a
Speaker 1: confidence space right now. He's ready to be a starting
Speaker 1: quarterback again. There are people in the league who know
Speaker 1: things who think Mitch Robinsky could still be a functional
Speaker 1: NFL player if he gets into the right setup and
Speaker 1: has an opportunity. Yeah, that would that would be the
Speaker 1: setup Dable who's been with him. I look at their roster,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're like crazy far away. They're
Speaker 1: not the Texans. I think Daniel Jones will have a
Speaker 1: better spot if it's a good coaching staff. I don't
Speaker 1: see that many like logical cut candidates like Blake Martinez.
Speaker 1: You get rid of Blake Martinez if you wanted, you
Speaker 1: could get rid of Kyle Rudolph. Certainly seven point five
Speaker 1: million dollars. Otherwise, I kind of like that they have
Speaker 1: enough people around him. They just need to get an offense.
Speaker 1: I also think, I know he didn't look great last year,
Speaker 1: but that team was such garbage. Se Quon Barkley I
Speaker 1: think could be somebody who has a bounce back right
Speaker 1: Why I can't imagine it would be worth getting rid of,
Speaker 1: Like whatever you would get back for Sakewan Barkley couldn't
Speaker 1: be worth it. Just what would it be just a
Speaker 1: new look version of the team, because se Juan Barkley
Speaker 1: is also, let's be honest, entirely frustrating as a player
Speaker 1: for the past coup he's been. He's do seven million
Speaker 1: just a lot for running back, but it's not that much.
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, maybe he is the guy that could They
Speaker 1: Also they have to create capram Son, Kyle Rudolph. That's
Speaker 1: I agree, he's got like he he is worth more
Speaker 1: than Sae Kwan Barkley right now, and so Sterling Shepherd
Speaker 1: Martinez is worth double. So that's a new coaching staff.
Speaker 1: You might just Sterling Shepherd. We've always liked him, but
Speaker 1: he can't stay healthy. Feels like a guy to move
Speaker 1: on from the Barkley. It's like, and if you're gonna stay,
Speaker 1: stay the course with Daniel Jones here and give him
Speaker 1: one more chance because he was in a bad set up,
Speaker 1: I think you should do the same with Barkley. And
Speaker 1: see what they mentioned him specifically to Dave that they
Speaker 1: wanted to see Jones and Barkley, and those were the
Speaker 1: two that they mentioned with the right support the coaching
Speaker 1: staff at least, I think there it's such an obvious
Speaker 1: new coach comment. But I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just I don't have to be all buy in that
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and sa Kwan Barkley are gonna combine to
Speaker 1: play more than twenty games next. We're not saying that necessarily. UM.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting how the NFL handled two
Speaker 1: more you know, regrettable stories about how they mistreat women.
Speaker 1: Over the last week. It's crazy that the Washington football
Speaker 1: team is under investigation again, not just by Congress, which
Speaker 1: was a thing that happened right after UH the season,
Speaker 1: but by the NFL with an independent investigation Mary Joe
Speaker 1: Wright White, who the last time she was involved in
Speaker 1: an investigation, there was a change in ownership UH in Carolina,
Speaker 1: and so this Washington story, which if you weren't tracking it,
Speaker 1: kind of popped back up because there was new allegations
Speaker 1: that were part of that congressional hearing, and the NFL
Speaker 1: is taking a different tack than they did UH last
Speaker 1: time around when they weren't the ones in charge of
Speaker 1: the investigation Washington was, and that there was no public
Speaker 1: release of the report that came out of that. This
Speaker 1: time they say there will be, so that that is
Speaker 1: a difference. And I, as someone who just like watches
Speaker 1: the ownership situations like I, I find that interesting that
Speaker 1: they're taking a different tact here and they're definitely taking
Speaker 1: a different tech than they are with the Cowboys who
Speaker 1: um were accused by former cheerleaders there. They're head PR
Speaker 1: guy who is one of the most powerful and well
Speaker 1: known uh PR guys in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: I would say Rich Dalrymple over the last twenty six
Speaker 1: years of taping cheerleaders with his cell phone while they
Speaker 1: were changing. The crazy part is it was six years
Speaker 1: ago and that there was a pay to these women ultimately,
Speaker 1: and the NFL says they are not going to look
Speaker 1: into it at all. But it is a crazy story
Speaker 1: if you read the entire one by Don Vanada, because
Speaker 1: it goes to the very top of covering up, uh,
Speaker 1: some pretty brutal accusations and there is money that's already
Speaker 1: changed hands here, including you know, violating Jerry Jones's own daughter,
Speaker 1: who's uh, you know, vice president of the organization. Is
Speaker 1: some dark stuff. So if you want to feel cynical
Speaker 1: about the world, the fact that this was buried for
Speaker 1: six years and then Dalrymple retires three weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: it just spoke so loudly to me that they didn't
Speaker 1: recognize that at all. The Cowboys didn't make a statement,
Speaker 1: they didn't say a word. This is this is If
Speaker 1: you've ever seen Jerry Jones on camera, Rich Dalrympo is
Speaker 1: right next to him. If you've ever been to a
Speaker 1: Cowboys practice, he's right next to him when he left
Speaker 1: after twenty six years, he he is the cleaner though
Speaker 1: he is the Michael Clayton of that team, and they
Speaker 1: say a word when he left. They said, that has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this incident that happens six years
Speaker 1: ago and millions of dollars change hands. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's disappointed some like dark NFL. But the NFL handled
Speaker 1: those two stories differently. That shows you a little change. Sorry,
Speaker 1: But like it is notable that ownership is under fire
Speaker 1: as an overall group right now. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: It takes twenty four thirty one owners to vote someone out.
Speaker 1: And you wonder with Daniel Snyder if we could get
Speaker 1: be getting closer and closer. Don't hold your breath. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be cynical about it, but we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: depressing state of affairs. Uh, not to change the tone
Speaker 1: too much, but it is to two two right now?
Speaker 1: WHOA we make a wish? What do we do? Make
Speaker 1: a wish? Everybody? Sorry, I have been looking into a
Speaker 1: lot of astrology stuff with this. I was in the
Speaker 1: middle of making my wish. It was bowing our heads
Speaker 1: in silence to make a wish. Except for Gregg. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm not no, my eyes were closed. There's a
Speaker 1: lot perculate about this day that they say to me
Speaker 1: to make sure your house is clean, because you don't
Speaker 1: because of all the cosmic which I don't necessarily believe
Speaker 1: in all that, like your proverbial house or you're you're
Speaker 1: like physical house, like space, have your space between today.
Speaker 1: They say, don't start any major arguments today because it's
Speaker 1: a mirror, because it's two two two to two, that
Speaker 1: if you start like an argument, it could come back
Speaker 1: to you this following year. And something about the mirrors,
Speaker 1: which I don't really know anything about it or believe,
Speaker 1: but some stuff people are saying. It's just like be
Speaker 1: just kind of be on your good behavior today. Don't
Speaker 1: start any arguments or making your life decisions. But positivity
Speaker 1: is going to be good because you wanted to reflect back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive straight home and go to bed right.
Speaker 1: Definitely not gonna like talk back to this plumber whatever
Speaker 1: you say, go yeah, hey, what's up pipes over here?
Speaker 1: On the subject of the Washington football team, some teams
Speaker 1: just cannot get things right. I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: mark with your Browns. Remember the Browns used to be
Speaker 1: that team for like seven straight years when we did
Speaker 1: this show straight years. But yes, right, But in the
Speaker 1: our of the show, it was like whenever a team
Speaker 1: did something like that was stupid or messed up, was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Browns doing the Browns. That's not really the Browns anymore.
Speaker 1: They might have been disappointing this year, but they're not
Speaker 1: the subject of these stories anymore. Washington football team puts
Speaker 1: out their new team Crest, and they mislabel at the bottom.
Speaker 1: They have the years their five titles since nine seven
Speaker 1: through one, but they actually put the year the title
Speaker 1: was one, not the season it was one. And so
Speaker 1: even though Mark Rippon led the Washington team to the
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl, they had nineteen ninety two on the crest.
Speaker 1: We can't make these mistakes, folks. We gotta you want
Speaker 1: to clean a house, clean your house? How does that
Speaker 1: get past the obvious focus groups? That also, by the way,
Speaker 1: is one of the talking about journals and notebooks. The
Speaker 1: thing that has always annoyed me about football is that
Speaker 1: you have to talk about team Max won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and so so and so year, but it's not
Speaker 1: the year you're thinking. Trying to explain that the kids
Speaker 1: or to other people that don't follow up. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't make anything. You know, I was annoyed by it
Speaker 1: as a kid, though, so it's even worse. And I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I know what you're saying that it could
Speaker 1: be frustrating the NBA season. They have no choice, really,
Speaker 1: they go, Okay, let's say I don't know who's who's
Speaker 1: the Sixers your team. Let's say the Sixers win the
Speaker 1: championship in June. They are the two thousand one hyphen
Speaker 1: NBA champions. That's too much, So just give me the
Speaker 1: year where the season began and the bulk of it
Speaker 1: took place. Anyway, you can't get this wrong. They got
Speaker 1: it wrong on the crest and got killed by their
Speaker 1: fan base. So they officially announced the correction to their
Speaker 1: logo and then redid the altar the logo that's the
Speaker 1: Washington But that before nobody in the building. I mean,
Speaker 1: did you see this Sean Taylor retirement Jersey? Uh? They Uh.
Speaker 1: The worst thing about this, though, I feel like, is
Speaker 1: in the in the correction. And yes, they listened to
Speaker 1: their fans and changed it. They said, we've now corrected
Speaker 1: it and put all the years in which all the
Speaker 1: scenes in which we won the super Bowl. Just clean
Speaker 1: it up here together. They've won three super Bowls two eight, seven,
Speaker 1: nine one. They won an NFL championship forty two. Why
Speaker 1: are we serving as a copy editor for you? Speaking
Speaker 1: a copy editor, I don't need the one thing, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers Instagram post. I don't need him signing off telling
Speaker 1: me to read a book. I don't need it. That's
Speaker 1: where he goes to intellectual. Yeah, it's it's part attitude
Speaker 1: speaking of the NBI. Did get Blood in the Garden
Speaker 1: the new Nick's nineties book. I can't wait to Johnny
Speaker 1: about that. Maybe he'll have me on the SI weekly podcast.
Speaker 1: That would be great. You know what you should? Uh,
Speaker 1: you guys should listen to that. It's a great podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure it's like natural is very not. You also
Speaker 1: didn't force it on it. You should do they consider it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an option to say that I'm the one that
Speaker 1: actually surfaced it. So john Here's this will be like, well,
Speaker 1: Dan had to bring it up before you plugged it. No, no,
Speaker 1: Dan gets more credit. Danny's two things. You're you're already
Speaker 1: starting issues and arguments. It's going to come right back
Speaker 1: at you that's true. I listened to the post Super
Speaker 1: Bowl one. It was good with Greg Bishop talking about
Speaker 1: that there was a lot going It wasn't the whole
Speaker 1: Kabo story and yes, oh okay, great, so all right,
Speaker 1: let's speed it up here we go. All right, Uh,
Speaker 1: Jervis Landry would like to stay with the Browns, but
Speaker 1: he can help win a championship elsewhere if need be.
Speaker 1: So we also found out that he played through a
Speaker 1: significant injury last season. It was a career worst year
Speaker 1: for him. That would explain a lot. He sprained his
Speaker 1: knee back in Week two, but he's never missed a
Speaker 1: game before last season. So I feel like there were
Speaker 1: some narratives going around that like, oh, he's just like
Speaker 1: kind of hurt. Things are lingering. That's not the case
Speaker 1: at all. But also take into account that he didn't
Speaker 1: do any media avails through the team after Odell was released,
Speaker 1: and he just watched his really good friend O'Dell win
Speaker 1: a championship. So, um, just throwing that out there, I'd
Speaker 1: say it's like thirty five chance he stays. And that's
Speaker 1: if the you know, he doesn't want to do this
Speaker 1: is like taking a pay cut. He's well, that's what
Speaker 1: that report. I love when they have these things because
Speaker 1: he alluded to it enough that essentially they asked him
Speaker 1: to take a pay cut. I mean, you can read
Speaker 1: between the lines. They started that conversation and then he
Speaker 1: sort of was okay. But like that wide receiver room,
Speaker 1: if you take Jarvis out of there, Donovan, People's Jones,
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz, and Rashad Higgins, who's set to be an
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent. He's due fourteen million dollar based salary.
Speaker 1: His cap numbers sixteen million, So it is a lot
Speaker 1: for Jarvis Landry. So I'm not surprised they are trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out in terms of a restructure. But
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't if I was Jarvis Landry, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind being a free agent next Thursdays around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast Flashpoint figures, Cole and Jarvis Lander nailed it. That's it. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe Baker Smith on to talk about Baker will be
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis next Thursday. Don't know if will the flash
Speaker 1: the Flashpoint series be able to carry on in a
Speaker 1: remote setting. That's that's up for debate. But we're on
Speaker 1: the flash we'd be under the flash Point focus at
Speaker 1: that point. Can we pull that off. Flashpoint focus. That's
Speaker 1: better than figures. Let me write that down, Greg, what
Speaker 1: do you think about this seg idea? A little mom
Speaker 1: on it. You're so little quiet. Greg's good, it's good.
Speaker 1: I think figures. There was something about figures I didn't like.
Speaker 1: So he's already Focus is good? All right? Up next,
Speaker 1: This XFL thing is interesting to me. The NFL and
Speaker 1: the XFL have reached a partnership agreement that will focus
Speaker 1: on creating innovation programs and protecting the health of players.
Speaker 1: The XFL announced Monday. I thought it was a little
Speaker 1: even though I love it, because I do think he
Speaker 1: is a treasure. When the Rock came out before the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl started, uh last Sunday and did the hype
Speaker 1: speech and the crowd went bonkers, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: got charisma for days. But he's also one of the
Speaker 1: owners of the XFL. Now, after vinc cman h when
Speaker 1: declared bankruptcy or whatever happened with it, he sold it
Speaker 1: to a group that included the Rocks. Like, why would
Speaker 1: the NFL do this with a hypothetical guy that's competition. No,
Speaker 1: this is a joint partnership on some level. It's they're
Speaker 1: not gonna share players, but they're gonna do things that
Speaker 1: the NFL used to be able to do with the
Speaker 1: NFL europe League, which was test out various things, uh right,
Speaker 1: from playing service to different rule tweaks, uh to like
Speaker 1: they're saying with safety elements to try to make the
Speaker 1: game safer for the players. And this is going to
Speaker 1: serve as a way to help the NFL product as
Speaker 1: well as give the XFL some pop, I imagine. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the television deal is, but maybe they
Speaker 1: end up these games end up on NFL Network this spring.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see. I like the whole idea
Speaker 1: of trying out new rules there. We could use some
Speaker 1: new r greg keep it wrong. Uh. The Rams have
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, so it's just like a small
Speaker 1: item in the in the notebook. But considering that, but
Speaker 1: that guarantees that Liam Cohen will be a head coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL at some point. We should get to
Speaker 1: know Liam Cohen's name. He was a Kentucky offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: but he was with the Rams before as a assistant,
Speaker 1: so McVeigh knows him well. And there were reports before
Speaker 1: the offseason even started that McVeigh wanted to bring him
Speaker 1: back to run the offense. So I don't know much
Speaker 1: about Liam Cohen, although Kentucky UH they scored a lot
Speaker 1: of points people. I do remember the spice rack was
Speaker 1: in love with the Kentucky UH college football program this
Speaker 1: year and I think made some I know who some
Speaker 1: good money. Iraq isn't in love with me around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast because he sent a vaguely threatening text us
Speaker 1: right when the Bengals won the conference championship that he
Speaker 1: better be on the show to the super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: it happened. So that is a bit of a something
Speaker 1: to watch, uh like watch her back, Like literally, I'll
Speaker 1: monitor that heavily. Mark you, pepper Mill. I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting that the combine, by the way, is coronavirus.
Speaker 1: Just essentially the NFL just said coronavirters doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1: We don't understand that. Like there were is this idea
Speaker 1: that you know, the combined players were gonna have to
Speaker 1: be bubbled. The players basically started saying, um uh, we
Speaker 1: might threaten to sit out workouts. We're not gonna do
Speaker 1: everything you want us to do. You're not paying us
Speaker 1: to go there. By the way, I mean eventually we
Speaker 1: get paid. But then they quickly turned around and said
Speaker 1: we're on bubbling you. Basically was like the NFL went
Speaker 1: to all the prospects and everybody connected to the event.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, hey guys, are still the coronavirus. We've got
Speaker 1: to make sure we bubble up, make safe. And that
Speaker 1: was like, no, we will literally not go to your combine. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: you're right, there's no problem. According to Phil Wesseley in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis has been on that train for months. So you know,
Speaker 1: if the city at large is acting a certain way,
Speaker 1: I think we're we've we're seeing that right back to you, baby,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have any other good ones. Um.
Speaker 1: I was interested to see that Daniel Hunter, who's a
Speaker 1: really good player, might not be back with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: It's very surprising to me. But they're changing defensive schemes.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a notable cut to possibly watch for
Speaker 1: because he would be in my top five of the
Speaker 1: free agents if he gets out there. Uh yeah. Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: by the way, still on the Texans. His proceeds, the
Speaker 1: legal proceedings, uh that those are moving forward, but again
Speaker 1: at a pace that's not necessarily lined up with the NFL,
Speaker 1: and we're now heading into a new league year and
Speaker 1: there's a there's a chance here that Deshaun Watson would
Speaker 1: not play again this year, and then it would be
Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars at the Texans are, oh guy
Speaker 1: who hasn't played in over a year, in two years.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff going on right now with this
Speaker 1: uh And there was a report from the Athletic Jeff
Speaker 1: how the Texans don't plan to lesson they're asking price
Speaker 1: for Watson, which has been five to seven assets, including
Speaker 1: three first round picks. Uh. So keep your eye on
Speaker 1: the story. Obviously, I believe he's going to start being
Speaker 1: a part of these depositions where he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: speak on the conduct that led to the allegations of something.
Speaker 1: So that is all happening at a time when the
Speaker 1: Texans are desperate. You would imagine now to get out
Speaker 1: from under Watson and recoup assets in exchange for him,
Speaker 1: but that can't happen until the legal sites resolved. That
Speaker 1: continues to be a story. And as we approach March Connie,
Speaker 1: we're running out of time. Blah blah blah, A lot
Speaker 1: less than you think, So go ahead, Okay. DK Metcalf
Speaker 1: is training for the Olympics. He's currently in a boot though,
Speaker 1: but next offseason it's on what event track? So he
Speaker 1: wants to be a sprinter in the Olympics. And who
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be in the Olympics After watching the Olympics, like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be for shooting and skiing in the biathlon. Zero,
Speaker 1: there we go. That's the old skeins spilled the old
Speaker 1: ski and shoot. Close out with Colleen Wolfe, who's said
Speaker 1: it all. Connie, what do you got going on? You're
Speaker 1: gonna be on the Around the broadcast on Friday. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: This is great because I've never done it in studio
Speaker 1: with you guys. The broadcast. How exciting. You'll be right
Speaker 1: here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. Greg, you will
Speaker 1: be out of town. We will We'll wear a rib
Speaker 1: been a black ribbon on our looks appropriate. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could wear, Colleen, you can wear my members only jacket.
Speaker 1: I will be here for Thursday's podcast. We do have
Speaker 1: another one of those, course, because the flashback focus is
Speaker 1: that what we said? No last point, Yeah, we killed
Speaker 1: figures out of there. Last point Focus Colon Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: coming up this. I like the idea, but some it
Speaker 1: sounds like one of those you know how they've kind
Speaker 1: of run out of names for football articles and it
Speaker 1: just sounds like names sort of Yeah, well that's what
Speaker 1: happened when sportswriting dies, like the aren't a lot of
Speaker 1: new ideas? Can we Greg, Can we hang the members
Speaker 1: only jacket in the studio for the Friday television show? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that would be a funny bit. We don't
Speaker 1: anyone listening now will get the joke, and otherwise don't
Speaker 1: refer to it right, otherwise, don't mention it at all
Speaker 1: those shows that we would pitch to Jason Kleman and
Speaker 1: Jason brooksby the production team behind the TV show and
Speaker 1: they're like, uh yeah, let's circle back on that next week.
Speaker 1: Come back to then we'll come back and we forget that. Okay,
Speaker 1: you hate all right? Did um? So, Connie, you've said
Speaker 1: it all. Thank you again for joining us, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me, Ricky, thank you for all your
Speaker 1: work and soldiering through what's been imagine a very difficult show.
Speaker 1: It's been great. You guys are great. Good Mark, you
Speaker 1: have a fire in your belly only can come from
Speaker 1: the evacuation from both ends. And I thank you, but
Speaker 1: I think that's well said. That's well said. There's nothing
Speaker 1: else in the belly, just the fire, empty, totally charred.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back Thursday. Uh flast Point Focus.
Speaker 1: Hit us up on Twitter or maybe on the reddit
Speaker 1: or whatever, and let us know if you have a
Speaker 1: better name for the series are offseasons. Don't bother me
Speaker 1: with it, but well, certainly at Mark Cesler on Twitter.
Speaker 1: He will be our point man here, So hit up Mark.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, disaster. Yeah, still doesn't understand how it works,
Speaker 1: how he's getting into a nightmare. Still crazy. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it. Let's go until Thursday. Um, get ready, Last
Speaker 1: Point Focus series Launchest TV show Friday, Saturday, combine and
Speaker 1: indies Monday. We're rolling. Keep the call.