Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast would rather take less than
Speaker 1: play on the Giants? From the Chris Whistling podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL take less than play for the Giants.
Speaker 1: All right, shots, fine, that's true for me. It's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: we're the classy organization in New York. Hey, how about
Speaker 1: you win more than six games in a season? ELI
Speaker 1: beat you twice? Dan hands us here, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Oh,
Speaker 1: and we have somebody in the fourth chair, an old friend.
Speaker 1: Right before the show started, I said, if he has
Speaker 1: another son, name him shock. It's Patrick Claiban breaking news
Speaker 1: another context. But I will not We we were discussing
Speaker 1: the nature of our existence earlier and um I currently
Speaker 1: right now we're sticking it to we're sticking it too. Well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your theory, and it's a sound one, was you need
Speaker 1: to be rich for three That's why the three the
Speaker 1: three kid households have been enjoyed children. That would help.
Speaker 1: I mean I could confirm that I I do enjoyed
Speaker 1: my children mostly, but like I can confirm the Sesslers
Speaker 1: will not be having a third child either. If we're
Speaker 1: breaking believe you on that one. Mark, It just it
Speaker 1: takes a lot of help, Like it takes a lot
Speaker 1: of help, It takes a village, and and they've made
Speaker 1: villages increasingly expensive. But Shaquille claim, you gotta say it's
Speaker 1: got a ring to it. Shaquille hands. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be interesting. I'll bring him in shack hands. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: set him down, Jackie, shaquil Um. Let's talk day two
Speaker 1: of the legal tampering period. We're now inside twenty four
Speaker 1: hours before the league has its happy New Year and
Speaker 1: all these contracts become official. And what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Why are you throwing your arms up? And you just
Speaker 1: were remind I forgot that, and I was like, that
Speaker 1: is the whole thing is stupid that the league year
Speaker 1: starts on Wednesday. Well, by the way, I honestly forgot
Speaker 1: about that. That it's a common complaine. Have been complaining
Speaker 1: about that for a long time. It is an incredibly
Speaker 1: we're just because we'd like to get the details right.
Speaker 1: For all intents and purposes, The league year began yesterday,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's not like people are renegging on
Speaker 1: deals from Monday on Wednesday. Although we kind of had
Speaker 1: one happened today and we're gonna get to that around
Speaker 1: the cowboys. I'm just saying, lift the procession. But that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's that's We've got a whole another calendar year to
Speaker 1: go on the war path for that scenario. But it's
Speaker 1: all about It's all about things, right. You need a
Speaker 1: new thing, and Wednesday is our thing. Right. It's like
Speaker 1: Monday was the opening of the window, and then the
Speaker 1: thing becomes another thing. We love things here. You need
Speaker 1: a thing. You have to have a thing. The thing
Speaker 1: that I the thing that I took away from the
Speaker 1: heart of the COVID nineteen lockdown, that I'll will always
Speaker 1: stick with me and and God forbid we end up
Speaker 1: back in the place every again. Is when you took
Speaker 1: away the things, the things to look forward to, uh,
Speaker 1: this this meet up with friends, this vacation, my family
Speaker 1: coming to visit, Uh, the start of this opening for baseball.
Speaker 1: When he took away the things and you were just
Speaker 1: in a world without anything to look forward to, that
Speaker 1: was to me as dark as it gotten. Mentally, you
Speaker 1: need structure, I mean I think you do especially needs structure.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that Wednesday. I don't know because I
Speaker 1: take it back and everyone feels the same way as
Speaker 1: you do. But I just feel like, you know. And
Speaker 1: weeks and then months passed and I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I'm just unt part of me enjoyed the like mapless
Speaker 1: chaos of it all for a bit of time, and
Speaker 1: then it became just we're drinking, and you know, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, isn't this cool? We're in our little bunkers.
Speaker 1: We don't. Famously, Mark have been looking for a world
Speaker 1: jolting event to happen since the start of this. I
Speaker 1: think you've probably even mentioned pandemic in that mix at
Speaker 1: some point, and it happened eventually, But don't peg me,
Speaker 1: don't It's like, it's not my needs, something that jolta
Speaker 1: side of our complacency. Uh, And it's happened. And and
Speaker 1: thirty eight players, by the way, I just counted off
Speaker 1: my top one oh one list have agreed to contracts
Speaker 1: in these first we're looking for the list. I like
Speaker 1: that there air meetings happening. I like that there are
Speaker 1: things in the world that are happening, and I hope
Speaker 1: they continue. I like being part of the world. Okay,
Speaker 1: Sumi Sessler claiming how does it feel patrick to be
Speaker 1: here for Rosenthal season? The time of year where Greg
Speaker 1: is the man where this is his world and he's focused. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's always the time of year where
Speaker 1: Greg right here, buddy, go ahead, But it's always it's
Speaker 1: always correct time. But as you said, then specifically right
Speaker 1: free agency, there's a party behind the glass. We talked
Speaker 1: Grever get on the mic. Graver, I know we're working
Speaker 1: through this producer. He is learning quickly that this is
Speaker 1: not the shiny you know, you know your co workers,
Speaker 1: that's not a good to hear it. What time? Greg?
Speaker 1: That was all teed up nicely, and then I look
Speaker 1: at my producer full on conversation with Christie Stapleton behind
Speaker 1: the glass. We can we don't have to No one
Speaker 1: has to know that that happened. I mean tell us
Speaker 1: all sorts of things that people don't need to know.
Speaker 1: So all right, Clavn go ahead, buddy. Well, as as
Speaker 1: previously stated, all time is Greg time. But Greg puts
Speaker 1: so much energy and attention into the game of free
Speaker 1: agency and having people know the things that you're hearing
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily the real circumstances. There's fake years tagged onto deals,
Speaker 1: there's cap numbers that aren't the real cap numbers, and
Speaker 1: that's where Greg excels what I'm saying. And to be
Speaker 1: in the proximity of one Mr Rosendult during this time
Speaker 1: is special. To be in the glow the aura, this
Speaker 1: is highly smell. Is this highly uncomfortable? But I have
Speaker 1: to admit what time Greg so loud? Uh, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that would get you fired up right before you're
Speaker 1: gonna leave the locker room for free agency. I had
Speaker 1: that feeling a little bit. I'm I'm being real on
Speaker 1: Monday morning at my house, it's kind of jumping going around,
Speaker 1: you know, writing things down, preparing and I and I
Speaker 1: said to Emma, I was like, this stuff still really
Speaker 1: gets me going. And I didn't say that. I was like,
Speaker 1: this stuff really gets me going. I still feel like
Speaker 1: the juice on free agency morning when that when that
Speaker 1: She's like, now, she said, you say that every year,
Speaker 1: you say, you say that exact same thing. Podcast has
Speaker 1: she listened to? Zero, never listened to her. She does
Speaker 1: listen to the jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanity project. That
Speaker 1: tells me a lot, or at least she yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's more like personal and not about football. I don't
Speaker 1: think the football aspect really, I don't take that. I
Speaker 1: don't take that personally makes sense. I don't love it.
Speaker 1: I don't love it. Um. Now let's get into literally
Speaker 1: zero standing on the shoulder of Giants with Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: Here we go. We're gonna dig into the news. Let's
Speaker 1: hit it graver. Seeing that wasn't as aggressive, but I
Speaker 1: think it was a little prudent and doing things very deliberately.
Speaker 1: Were the New York Jets. Jets Jets, Jets, Jets Jets year.
Speaker 1: This is their time of year. There has not been
Speaker 1: one free agent period that you have not enjoyed as
Speaker 1: there seems to be. There's a wisdom to the moves
Speaker 1: they're making. It's not just drunken sail or spending. They're
Speaker 1: not doing the Jaguars move. It seems like Big Joe
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Yes, it only took him half
Speaker 1: a decade to get here, but he's he's achieved that.
Speaker 1: Now I've been I've been hurt before, but maybe this
Speaker 1: is different. Get to the Jets in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But well, let's focus on your team, Sessler, because you're
Speaker 1: hoping now I'm not good Sitch over there? Yeah, great, Sitch.
Speaker 1: The Shawn Watson has a market here and let's go
Speaker 1: through the teams. Saints met with him, met with him,
Speaker 1: Panthers met with him, met with him, emerging as a
Speaker 1: sleeper team, the Falcons meeting coming the Browns a finalists
Speaker 1: to land Watson, according to reports, So, the man facing
Speaker 1: twenty two allegations of sexual assault has a very active
Speaker 1: trade market and seems to be in a situation where
Speaker 1: he's going to get to pick where he goes. Uh.
Speaker 1: We'll see if there's another team that emerges, But right now, Patrick,
Speaker 1: we have a group, a bushel of teams that seem
Speaker 1: very eager to get into business with Watson. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like the concerns that a lot of people share
Speaker 1: don't apply to a certain a certain subset of teams
Speaker 1: who are willing to meet and discuss. And I understand
Speaker 1: because I've heard people like um Steve Smith said on
Speaker 1: our air earlier this week, the teams want to go
Speaker 1: in there and look him in the eye and have
Speaker 1: a discussion. Like, I'm not really sure what value that
Speaker 1: really has, Um, I'm not sure how much investigation you're
Speaker 1: really doing bringing somebody in and asking them questions. Um,
Speaker 1: But that's that's the direction they're going in. And when
Speaker 1: you discussed the football player. Uh, he's he's going to
Speaker 1: improve all of those teams. Uh, that the scenario is
Speaker 1: going to be better. But how is this received in
Speaker 1: a fan base? How do people appreciate that? We saw
Speaker 1: marks reaction? Um, you know, Greg talked about earlier this week,
Speaker 1: the reaction from from Adam and company down there in
Speaker 1: New Orleans not very good, just just to the idea
Speaker 1: of the team pursuing want to work for the team,
Speaker 1: And in terms of it's it's tough. It's tough to
Speaker 1: even reconcile that a team is going to do this
Speaker 1: at this time, uh, considering the circumstances that that are
Speaker 1: out there. So I don't even it's an obvious upgrade.
Speaker 1: But what what are we doing? Like collectively, we're just
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I wonder sometimes the Colts
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him as well. That was shot
Speaker 1: down by the Texans because it's inside obviously the same division.
Speaker 1: And it's notable that a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: did not. There are teams out there that have taken
Speaker 1: a different stance. And I would just say, personally as
Speaker 1: a Browns fan, UM, I mean that team has put
Speaker 1: that fan base through so much for so long that
Speaker 1: if this is what you see as your avenue to
Speaker 1: becoming a super Bowl contender, Uh, no, thank you. I
Speaker 1: just I just kind of feel it's just the energy
Speaker 1: around it, everything that has to do with it. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's so much actually in Cleveland under Stefanski and others
Speaker 1: with their current coaching staff, where they've actually put such
Speaker 1: an emphasis on hiring female coaches, hiring female staff. It
Speaker 1: changing the way that you know your organization looks that
Speaker 1: this is a hard right turn in the other direction,
Speaker 1: and it like from a football angle, it's a it's
Speaker 1: super clear to me that we are getting closer and
Speaker 1: closer by the day to Baker Mayfield never playing another
Speaker 1: snap for the Browns because if this thing falls apart,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Browns the first in this race. Um,
Speaker 1: I think he is the next piece to fall out
Speaker 1: of that, out of that roster. But in general, as
Speaker 1: a Browns fan, no interest in this. It is it's
Speaker 1: a weight, it's it's annoying, and it's not worth the
Speaker 1: idea of winning. Not with him. I am curious what
Speaker 1: these meetings are about, because you want to you want
Speaker 1: to talk to him. He's gonna be such an important
Speaker 1: figure in your organization, you want to see how this
Speaker 1: is moving forward. I guess one thing I would be
Speaker 1: looking for if if you were a team was are
Speaker 1: you gonna be as vocally pushing back and unapologetic about
Speaker 1: what happened as you were in the tweet? Because I
Speaker 1: think that even for the most cynical team that doesn't
Speaker 1: care about what he is alleged to have done, you
Speaker 1: would think that that would make a difference. His agent's
Speaker 1: first twet tweet when when he um was not charged
Speaker 1: last week was keep that same energy, basically like if
Speaker 1: you came at us before, like like, you know, you
Speaker 1: better be giving us credit now or or you're not
Speaker 1: part of our team. And Watson certainly had a very
Speaker 1: um confrontational attitude on apologetic when when he was So
Speaker 1: if that's how he's gonna be answering questions, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to answer questions eventually publicly and still make it
Speaker 1: um as unapologetic as possible while he's battling these civil cases.
Speaker 1: I would think even the most cynical team would have
Speaker 1: some concerns with that, because they have women that work
Speaker 1: for their organization that they presumably care about. They certainly
Speaker 1: care about you would think they're they're fan base, and
Speaker 1: then that would be part of the equation. And that
Speaker 1: it does make me wonder, is like, is that why
Speaker 1: other teams are being floated to get into the mix?
Speaker 1: Because the part where he was comfortable enough to meet
Speaker 1: with the Saints and Panthers, and we're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of speculating, but for that to happen, there has been
Speaker 1: speculation in the league that maybe some loose trade terms
Speaker 1: have been kind of agreed to at that point, and
Speaker 1: that that he's kind of up for those teams. So
Speaker 1: why do you have to meet with more teams? Like,
Speaker 1: why is this still happening? I ad don't. It's hard
Speaker 1: to say because there's so little information that's not coming
Speaker 1: out except from the agent in other news. All Right,
Speaker 1: so this happens, It's not unprecedented, but it doesn't happen
Speaker 1: a lot. A player agrees to terms with the team
Speaker 1: during this legal tampering period and then whoops, changes his
Speaker 1: mind goes elsewhere. And in this situation, that centers around
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, the talented pass rusher um who has really
Speaker 1: popped for the Cowboys in recent seasons. He had agreed
Speaker 1: to a deal to stay with that US. It went
Speaker 1: as far as the Cowboys Twitter and social media announcing
Speaker 1: the deal. They had a whole article on the website.
Speaker 1: Someone pre wrote that thing, well pre written article goes
Speaker 1: on and then stepping to mark a lot, remember that
Speaker 1: he got popped. He was like, got banged on the
Speaker 1: like did Jimmy g tape study thing where he was
Speaker 1: going to become the starter? And then I don't like
Speaker 1: Boston lost into the universe. So the deal with Dallas
Speaker 1: falls apart, and quickly the Broncos close with Gregory on
Speaker 1: a five year, seventy million dollar contract, a great addition
Speaker 1: for Denver's defense. Uh, people that watch Gregory and and
Speaker 1: watch the game look beyond just the stats which are
Speaker 1: somewhat mundane and say, this guy is a stud who
Speaker 1: will only get better as long as he could stay
Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow on the field and off
Speaker 1: the field. But Gregory now will be teamed up with
Speaker 1: Bradley chub Mark on that defense. So not only do
Speaker 1: you have Russell Wilson anchoring the offense, now Gregory becomes
Speaker 1: a major addition to the d. The Broncos are cooking
Speaker 1: with Grease. I kind of love this for Denver. Grease.
Speaker 1: It's not grease. It's not something you'd be cooking with
Speaker 1: as a core substance. I think it's comes baking grease
Speaker 1: on that fire though it's blowing up, so that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean that could it could amplify the sinner a little,
Speaker 1: Mark baking great grease in your scrabbled eggs. And I'm
Speaker 1: not the great. I'm not the first person on the panel.
Speaker 1: You should be discussing probably backdoor cooking, outdoor cooking. I
Speaker 1: never actually thought about the phrase cooking with gas, like
Speaker 1: you're putting the gas in the dish or are you
Speaker 1: utilizing gas to heat? I think it's like in the
Speaker 1: grill and stuff or in the stove. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: people get all sensitive about like cooking with gas stoves too,
Speaker 1: But it's fine cooking is according to several places, including
Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary. I'm taking the win. Go ahead, Mark, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I love it for Denver. In fact um, a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I wrote a free Agent Fits and
Speaker 1: this was I thought the Broncos were the one spot
Speaker 1: that Gregory really fit beyond Dallas because the Cowboys, I believe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Johnson suggests that that occurs, but that it's just
Speaker 1: like that, well, they needed it and like they are,
Speaker 1: you know, it was they had the von Miller void.
Speaker 1: Their it is, it is. It is a special time.
Speaker 1: But like Dallas, though I guess it was Dallas. Dallas
Speaker 1: put so much time and energy, no thiss And I
Speaker 1: see a lot of people getting on Gregory for this
Speaker 1: this switch here, but I don't really. I think I
Speaker 1: think it had to do with more contracts stuff that
Speaker 1: he bumped on. I have no problem with it. Everyone
Speaker 1: that I've like that that has been inside the Cowboys
Speaker 1: organization that talks about Randy Gregory talks about someone who
Speaker 1: put a huge amount of effort into rehabbing who they
Speaker 1: were and who they are and they love him. And
Speaker 1: so from the risk angle, I think I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not as caught up on the risk. I love it
Speaker 1: for Denver and they needed this, They absolutely needed it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about the I'm like thinking
Speaker 1: about the grease and the gas thing during all that.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, here's what it must look
Speaker 1: for pass rushing help did Juice Upper Front still angling
Speaker 1: to fill a von Miller's size void. Gregory's off field
Speaker 1: issues and injury history making boom or bust, but his
Speaker 1: potential is juicy. That was Mark Sessler a week ago.
Speaker 1: That was a good job. That was a great job.
Speaker 1: Now he's never played more than five snaps in an
Speaker 1: NFL season. He's been eligible to play in the NFL since,
Speaker 1: So that's like, that's uh, that's concerning to me that
Speaker 1: even last season, when he was a total beast, I
Speaker 1: would have had him in the mix for All Pro
Speaker 1: or in through the first seven eight games of the season.
Speaker 1: He then got hurt and when he came back, he
Speaker 1: wasn't the same impact guy. So he has not shown
Speaker 1: the ability to to stay healthy throughout the courts of
Speaker 1: the season. I don't think you can get on him though,
Speaker 1: for changing his mind. Apparently he didn't like the language
Speaker 1: and the contract that allowed the Cowboys to go after
Speaker 1: some of his money. Uh if he was fined or
Speaker 1: suspended by the league more and they they apparently put
Speaker 1: this in everyone's contract. But he was also taking less
Speaker 1: money to stay there. I've thought about this Greggory thing
Speaker 1: a bit because on one hand, it's like, well, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be a good place to stay Dallas. He's
Speaker 1: comfortable there, he's had all his issues he's and then
Speaker 1: I thought about it, like, is Dallas a good place
Speaker 1: to stay as a as a player, Like they've had
Speaker 1: their share of issues over the years as a culture,
Speaker 1: including this offseason. Maybe it's better to start new and
Speaker 1: move to Denver. I'm just saying they've allowed a lot
Speaker 1: in their in their in their front office, and other
Speaker 1: things have happened there that are discouraging. So maybe staying
Speaker 1: in Dallas isn't like the best way to stay on
Speaker 1: the stream narrow. Dallas is a spotlight city in this league.
Speaker 1: It is a great spot to get on prime time
Speaker 1: to get paid. Everybody looks good in a Cowboys helmet
Speaker 1: and uniform. Uh, it's I think it's still has prestige
Speaker 1: as a as a place to play, and they have, Yes,
Speaker 1: they there's always issues behind the scenes of that organization,
Speaker 1: that's scenes, but they've built a winner again now, so
Speaker 1: that that's a that's a very year for this year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do feel like the Broncos are likely to be
Speaker 1: put on television a few times this upcoming season as well.
Speaker 1: And they also signed our guy DJ Jones, who's really
Speaker 1: Nate Tysons guy. Remember you asked them to throw one
Speaker 1: name too low on the list, and I thought I
Speaker 1: had DJ Jones high Adam thirty five, that's pretty good
Speaker 1: for like a rotational guy. But they also signed him
Speaker 1: to a three year, thirty million dollar contract, So that
Speaker 1: is a nice looking front. You got Chub, you got
Speaker 1: Malik Reid, who I think an underrated player. Draymond Jones
Speaker 1: is a pretty good A lot of Jones is up there, DJ, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a nice looking group, pretty good secondary. I'm a
Speaker 1: little concerned you lose Vic Fangio as a play caller,
Speaker 1: but you've got a lot of great defensive players. That
Speaker 1: is a good looking roster. Uh. And don't forget about
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel brought him back two year, eleven million dollar Country.
Speaker 1: It got hurt torres Peck blew out of season last year,
Speaker 1: but that guy could play not more of these teams.
Speaker 1: Like I know, this is not a this doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in the NFL because you need this like space after
Speaker 1: you get fired as a head coach. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I can't like Vick Fonso, just plug him in as
Speaker 1: your defensivecording or it's less work. He's great at it.
Speaker 1: You've got all the right players for the scheme is
Speaker 1: work to be a head, defensive coording work, not taking
Speaker 1: all the blame. Well, they're saying, just you've got to
Speaker 1: go move off into the new wilderness. But he's he's
Speaker 1: literally in the wilderness working right now. One thing I
Speaker 1: do like it right, But he might be turning down jobs.
Speaker 1: I mean he's also making money to do nothing which
Speaker 1: would want him. They did hire a guy who I
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about zero Everro who is also
Speaker 1: with Rams, who comes from the Fongio tree. So it's
Speaker 1: like they're not changing. Does Brandon Stanley's the number one
Speaker 1: member of his tree and not the McVeigh tree. I
Speaker 1: think yes, because I think well, for so he came
Speaker 1: to John Carroll and like had some great ideas there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, because he kind of runs Fongio's principles on
Speaker 1: deefit given trees to anybody now, But it makes more sense.
Speaker 1: He's defensive coach. His scheme is the one kind of
Speaker 1: blowing up around the around the league. It's kind of
Speaker 1: he's had some influence there. The Rams here got him
Speaker 1: more attention and then he got the job. But he's
Speaker 1: a Fongio. He comes from the fruit of the fungio,
Speaker 1: you know, like you sometimes try to guess what I'm thinking. Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing what you're thinking, and it's like, can we
Speaker 1: move on from this fongio? I'm done with it? You
Speaker 1: got that right. Marcus Williams, he gets paid. We knew
Speaker 1: what was happening. It's the Ravens that hand out the check.
Speaker 1: The former Saints Suns a five year, seventy million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Tom Placero reported that the deal includes thirty seven million
Speaker 1: guaranteed former second round pick. Everybody seemed to want Marcus Williams,
Speaker 1: and it's the Ravens who get clay Bon and they
Speaker 1: get him at I think, because Greg and I were
Speaker 1: talking about this, the price for Marcus Williams, it seems like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the circumstances in New Orleans where
Speaker 1: you have a pretty good player that you drafted that
Speaker 1: you could have kept, but he's he's he's out now
Speaker 1: and he's in Baltimore, and you offered him a lot
Speaker 1: like we were hearing extension offers that they were giving him,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't too different from the one he ended
Speaker 1: up taking. You do wonder if they're a little distracted
Speaker 1: by the Watson thing right now and can't handle that business.
Speaker 1: And there are reports that are on armstead Is is
Speaker 1: kind of waiting to see how that circumstance shakes out
Speaker 1: before he makes his decision, and so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts there. But I think you can keep
Speaker 1: Marcus was if. I think it's a huge win for
Speaker 1: Baltimore that they're able to get a guy who's got
Speaker 1: some experience. Of course, there was the one glaring play
Speaker 1: that people probably point out to when they say, oh, Marcus,
Speaker 1: he's been fantastic ever since his rookie season in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and it helps, and you know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see Baltimore continue. Maybe they could make an offer to
Speaker 1: their top ten quarterback. That sounds like a mini ap
Speaker 1: this miracle he was season too. It was just a position,
Speaker 1: but ever since that he's continued to build his brand
Speaker 1: by playing great, staying healthy, and now he has a
Speaker 1: life chance him. People were in on him. Honey Badger
Speaker 1: was reportedly in the mix for the Ravens, so now
Speaker 1: he won't go there. That's a good looking secondary. Baltimore
Speaker 1: very much believes in building back to front and they
Speaker 1: got hurt last year and it didn't work out, But
Speaker 1: they still have Marcus Peters. They played Chuck Clark a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Now they paid Marcus Williams top tier money.
Speaker 1: You have Marlon Humphrey, who's gonna get the around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast guest bump uh and have a big time season.
Speaker 1: What wasn't he going to look into the camera for you,
Speaker 1: Mark when he does something good against the Browns and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, destroyed Cleveland like a pick six? He was gonna, Strangely,
Speaker 1: according to what we told him, wasn't apologized to me.
Speaker 1: You're just doing your job that the camera. Next time
Speaker 1: you break the Brown's heart, look into the camera and
Speaker 1: apologize to Mark. It would be a big social media moment.
Speaker 1: But the minute he loves said he forgot about that promise.
Speaker 1: This will be the number one free agent signing of
Speaker 1: anything we talk about. Let's wait what that's a bold stay.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it will be. This is the the Ravens. Don't
Speaker 1: get these things wrong. This will go down as the
Speaker 1: best signing. Also, like, I totally respect the way that
Speaker 1: they operate in free agency and their secondary You list
Speaker 1: of the names is insane right now, and Williams is
Speaker 1: one of those guys. The more you watch, the more tape,
Speaker 1: the bigger a Saints fan or coach you are, the
Speaker 1: more great things you hear about him as kind of
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Devons. Safeties have not gotten paid
Speaker 1: much in the last few years, and free agency was
Speaker 1: nice to see one finally actually get it. Quandre Diggs
Speaker 1: made a decent amount of money too from Seattle, but
Speaker 1: he got top tier money. Marcus. Wait, Hopefully they allow
Speaker 1: the guys to cover and the they're not constantly blitzing,
Speaker 1: and they can get somebody to get pressure up front
Speaker 1: and you got this great secondary allow them to do
Speaker 1: their jobs. They don't really have a lot of guys
Speaker 1: up front now, brand Williams, Clayss Campbell, Justin Ellis stuff
Speaker 1: in Houston. Even by the standards of this show, this
Speaker 1: one feels like it's gonna be a long one. Hey, Graver,
Speaker 1: you gotta go big early. There's not a lot of juice.
Speaker 1: Graver again, just like yesterday, we're not telling you how
Speaker 1: to do your job. But when Mark comes in and
Speaker 1: says the safety signing is the greatest move of all time,
Speaker 1: what was it? You wait? Will be the greatest free
Speaker 1: agent signing of all This offseason I mean he's doing that.
Speaker 1: He's box office right now. Lines like that. We want
Speaker 1: to play that up on social what you did yesterday
Speaker 1: with the social credit to Randy made the little edit job.
Speaker 1: You're right, that was all me. They made funny. It
Speaker 1: was a whole thing, they all, and they built on it.
Speaker 1: I also liked the title you gave episode day one,
Speaker 1: free agent Frenzy, day one call and this guy gets
Speaker 1: it well he does. I'm just saying, you're relaxing on
Speaker 1: the beach. Maybe you come back with the clear mind
Speaker 1: to be titling episodes at that level, or maybe you
Speaker 1: just keep falling behind. But don't get on Dan's bad side.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. All right, We're back. We're back
Speaker 1: when we keep moving on. Also in the news, oh
Speaker 1: trade the Bucks, they have a hole of guard. They
Speaker 1: had a hole of guard because Alan Marpett retired. And
Speaker 1: then who did they lose? Yesterday? Went to Cincinnati. So
Speaker 1: what do they do? They pull the trigger on a
Speaker 1: trade with the Patriots, and Tommy is united with an
Speaker 1: old friend. So Shack Mason goes from New England to
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in a trade. The details of the trade
Speaker 1: are as follows a fifth round pick uh goes back
Speaker 1: to New England. So the final two years of Mason's
Speaker 1: contract head to Tampa. So that fills a major in
Speaker 1: need that I would imagine Greg sets Tom Brady a
Speaker 1: little bit of ease because he doesn't like pressure right
Speaker 1: up the middle. And uh, I guess makes the Patriots
Speaker 1: a little bit weaker. You were shaking your head. You
Speaker 1: do you understand this move from doing I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna spend some money in free agency or else. It
Speaker 1: really doesn't make sense because he's coming off a good year.
Speaker 1: He's more of a run blocker maybe than a past
Speaker 1: He's made it All Pro Team, he was a PF
Speaker 1: top five guard. Brandon of Thorn, who I love, who
Speaker 1: really just watches the tape. He's not worried about any
Speaker 1: PFF grade. He said he's the top five right guard
Speaker 1: in the league, and I and I buy it. Like, so,
Speaker 1: why why are you trading for a fifth round pick
Speaker 1: with two years left on what seems like a reasonable deal.
Speaker 1: The only explanation is that Bill Belichick likes to get crazy.
Speaker 1: He likes to feel alive every now and then, and
Speaker 1: he just likes to shake things up. And I think
Speaker 1: they'll be spent. They don't have a lot of cat
Speaker 1: trade my starting guard for a fifth round pick alive.
Speaker 1: Our friend Burke, you know, sent the uh tweet which
Speaker 1: sums up my feelings and Bill, we trust l O L.
Speaker 1: This guy is a maniac. I mean sometimes you can't
Speaker 1: really understand quit the Patriots to follow, please, I've never
Speaker 1: I've never heard of a non Patriots fan that's more
Speaker 1: obsessed than going up and down emotionally with every Patriots.
Speaker 1: It was just a couple of years ago that wasn't right.
Speaker 1: At the launch of free agency, Bill was photographed like
Speaker 1: jumping off the side of a small ship or a
Speaker 1: yacht into the sea on his vacation. So the GM
Speaker 1: I know he's a he's a former Patriots staffer, so
Speaker 1: like the connection makes sense. I'll go help out. Perhaps
Speaker 1: there's some sort of system where if a player meets
Speaker 1: a certain there's an age, right, there's a salary, there's
Speaker 1: a percentage of the cap. And Bill says, this is it,
Speaker 1: no matter how good or how much sense this makes
Speaker 1: for the other trade part that band, where were you challenged?
Speaker 1: You were if you hit the certain age, you're out
Speaker 1: of the bad dating life. That's a great example what
Speaker 1: if Belichick the Bill I don't recall this, but I
Speaker 1: take your word for it. The guy who jumped off
Speaker 1: the side of the ship and into the sea, you know,
Speaker 1: probably lost it. See New England wanted to keep everything
Speaker 1: at order, so they just got a bell chick doppelganger
Speaker 1: plugged him in and nobody knows. This is just like
Speaker 1: a fake Bill makes too much sense because within months
Speaker 1: his quarterback probably discovered it. Wasn't it Like, we're not
Speaker 1: even sure that quarterback is the actual Tom Brady that
Speaker 1: you know was doing theredy dressed up as Bill Belichick, right, Like,
Speaker 1: they don't have it like that. The whole story in
Speaker 1: New England right now, there's there's no one on their
Speaker 1: coaching staff. They've got like seven coaches total and about
Speaker 1: four people in their front office. It's just Bill like
Speaker 1: texting people. Who knows. But what if? It's like, what
Speaker 1: if their whole ethos is what would Bill do? Because
Speaker 1: Bill lost at sea? And then they just have to
Speaker 1: kind of guess what Bellichick would do at this point,
Speaker 1: Why would we be so intent on hiding that Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: you know, passed away in this scenario through drowning. What
Speaker 1: why an embarrassing way to go. Okay, he is. He
Speaker 1: has been very up and down in his career. By
Speaker 1: the way, Jack Mason very injury He's been injury prone,
Speaker 1: up and down. One year he's an off pro, another
Speaker 1: year he struggles. They saved seven million dollars, but it's
Speaker 1: not like they were they sold high on them. They
Speaker 1: got a fifth round pick. So I want to see
Speaker 1: what's behind door number two. Dave was the president that
Speaker 1: I can understand. There was a little more. You know,
Speaker 1: he's the president Patriots. And now Dave is a twenty
Speaker 1: nine year old. But people that have seen Dave, which
Speaker 1: was a box office hit, why is it oh big, big,
Speaker 1: very well big numbers it did around the NFL broadcast
Speaker 1: Fridays on NFL network, numbers close to us. That's just
Speaker 1: that for inflation hit. It's like they don't make movies
Speaker 1: like that anymore. You know, it's a movie for adults
Speaker 1: without the costs. Wait, the guy from the Bronx is
Speaker 1: like way into Dave with the rom com. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that alright. And other news with the Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: they have signed Russell Gauge, formerly of the Falcons, three years,
Speaker 1: thirty million, dollars is there just I guess that is
Speaker 1: how it always is, but it seems especially this year,
Speaker 1: all the guys that are wide receivers, everybody's signing for
Speaker 1: the same contracts more or less give it take a
Speaker 1: couple of millions. But I guess that's how it work.
Speaker 1: You were right. Yeah, there were a lot of defensive
Speaker 1: lineman who signed an exact same contract. D J. Jones
Speaker 1: fully fought to Kassi and b J. Hill, all the
Speaker 1: exact three for thirty. The tight ends are signing for
Speaker 1: eight or nine million. This is and and gay and
Speaker 1: you know, Za Jones is like, hey, agent, just tell
Speaker 1: them to give me twenty seven million. They're like, it
Speaker 1: won't work. And then the Jaggers like, we'll do it.
Speaker 1: That's what everyone else is doing. Russell gauge anyway, so
Speaker 1: the Bucks add more wide receiver talent. He's pretty good player,
Speaker 1: I think Patrick Clayband. And now he's got Tom Brady
Speaker 1: throwing to him, so that's cool. Take him way before
Speaker 1: Za Jones um Russell Gauge on an offense that really
Speaker 1: had like pass cor Darrel, it was Russell age that
Speaker 1: that was the only thing that that was working for
Speaker 1: this this Falcon's offense, and he had Pitts as well,
Speaker 1: but I know what you're saying. Sometimes pitts would disappear
Speaker 1: and they engage. Was the guy that was stepping up
Speaker 1: in terms of like the time that Matt Ryan had
Speaker 1: was there was very little to go around success wise
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But Russell Gauge still put up sixty six
Speaker 1: catches on ninety four targets, and um, he's going across
Speaker 1: the division. It's like subtract from the foul. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: stole it from an Atlanta team that, like you, I
Speaker 1: had like two weapons to begin with. It feels a
Speaker 1: little unfair Robin hoodish in reverse. But uh, I think
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is his voice, kind of like he capitalism.
Speaker 1: He had six hundred plus yards, fifty catches and three
Speaker 1: touch on just in the second half of the year.
Speaker 1: I can't remember a player that you didn't really have
Speaker 1: any thoughts about for most of their rookie contract that
Speaker 1: looked better than Justin I couldn't believe how good Russell Gauge.
Speaker 1: I kept confused. I used to confuse him with Justin Gage,
Speaker 1: the other Titans guy. That's how much he sort of
Speaker 1: blended in and he was incredible. He reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of Chris Godwin. He can play inside, he can
Speaker 1: play out, he can get open. Uh. The quality of
Speaker 1: the catches he made when he looked amazing. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of nice Chris Godwin insurance because I think they're
Speaker 1: very similar. And then when Godwin is healthy enough to play,
Speaker 1: Oh great, you got Chris Godwin and Chris Godwin light.
Speaker 1: We can use them both. This will be fun. Right
Speaker 1: when the Antonio Brown went and kicked himself off the team,
Speaker 1: similar style too, that left a void. And this makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense, uh the bus how much things
Speaker 1: can change in you know, seventy two hours. They went
Speaker 1: from a team that was seemed to be completely rudderless too, like,
Speaker 1: all right, this might be another NFC Super Bowl level
Speaker 1: team on Fridays. Now we literally mentioned Mike Glennon five times.
Speaker 1: It's like, wait, why exactly? That was my question? But
Speaker 1: apparently in what context? Apparently he would play hypothetically play
Speaker 1: football for the Tampa Bay wasn't Blaine Gabbert. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: well yeah, signing, you know, signing the greatest quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time in my mind. Uh still you know playing that. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll do that. That's how important it is. But it
Speaker 1: is crazy. The players they've also gotten back. We also
Speaker 1: talked about it when Brady did his Fugazi retirement and
Speaker 1: we were like, man, even though they you know, they
Speaker 1: got two years out of it, that was a huge
Speaker 1: win for the Bucks. Like everything you could have wanted.
Speaker 1: Colleen is staring at us through the glass. I lost
Speaker 1: my train of thought. Everything you could have ever larger
Speaker 1: man that just passed by, I thought I was giving
Speaker 1: him a thumbs up. So he's a big fan of
Speaker 1: the park. Maybe, But anyway, two years would you would
Speaker 1: have signed up for the Bucks. You got a title
Speaker 1: out of it, you're relevant, you won the NFC South.
Speaker 1: Now we get another year. This all feels like bonus time.
Speaker 1: Now they could be getting three more years, more years
Speaker 1: all right. Now. The Chiefs, the team defeated by the
Speaker 1: Bucks and the Super Bowl a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what they're up to. They signed Justin Reid,
Speaker 1: the safety for formally in the Texans, three years, thirty
Speaker 1: one and a half million dollars. So that ends the
Speaker 1: Honey Badger era. I wish I'd like to get a
Speaker 1: little more about the Honey badger situation. Um, I know
Speaker 1: he he's known to freelance and could be a challenged
Speaker 1: to defensive coordinators. But a guy who's known as like
Speaker 1: a champion, a great locker room guy, they let him walk.
Speaker 1: He's still I know, we're still early in the process,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have a new team yet. Baltimore went
Speaker 1: in different direction. Anyway, Justin Reid arrives as the replacement
Speaker 1: the number sixty eight overall pick in eighteen. Uh. He's
Speaker 1: been a starter his whole time in Houston, and now
Speaker 1: Greg he joins the Chiefs. Upgrade down grade? What do
Speaker 1: you think I love Justin Reid? In this first two
Speaker 1: seasons of his career, he looked like a future All Pro,
Speaker 1: one of the best young safeties in the league. This
Speaker 1: deal just makes me think that the rest of the
Speaker 1: NFL views whatever is happening in Houston as inconsequential, because
Speaker 1: Justin Reid really struggled last year. At one point he
Speaker 1: also got suspended for breaking team rules by David Culley,
Speaker 1: and it was like, wait, a mind, whatever happened in
Speaker 1: Houston the last two years. Read's kind of known as
Speaker 1: a very competitive, UH leader type type of guy who
Speaker 1: wants to win, and he was frustrated his dumb in
Speaker 1: real time. Everybody was like, ut, and I think this
Speaker 1: is right. This is the the chief saying like, we
Speaker 1: watched you, we know you're good. The team you were
Speaker 1: on in this you know is not good, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna not worry about it and give you top tier money.
Speaker 1: So that made sense to me. Chief's defensive end, Frank
Speaker 1: Clark has agreed to a restructured contact contract to remain
Speaker 1: with Kansas City. Uh. This is a bit of a
Speaker 1: surprise Mark. A lot of people thought Clark would be
Speaker 1: a casualty. Instead he is still with the team and uh,
Speaker 1: they hope that he kind of turns it around because
Speaker 1: he's never quite lived up to the billing when he
Speaker 1: joined the team as a QB terrorizer, Right, he hasn't.
Speaker 1: He's also had injuries. He had a like a felony
Speaker 1: gun charge that you know, caused some fair disruption at
Speaker 1: one point, right, I mean he had a twenty six
Speaker 1: million dollar capits. So it's I and I think it's
Speaker 1: a win for the Chiefs to get him back, but
Speaker 1: you can't get the same version of him you want
Speaker 1: to do. We trust that he's going to suddenly become No,
Speaker 1: three times better. I don't this one mystified me until
Speaker 1: you know, a capologist explained it. Basically, they were going
Speaker 1: to eat it was Eric eager on PFF. It was
Speaker 1: like a multi deserve I know. Well it was like
Speaker 1: a couple of different people. So it was tough. But
Speaker 1: that's essentially they were only played one more million dollars
Speaker 1: one million dollars more to keep them. Then it would
Speaker 1: have been to cut him anyways, So you consulted multiple
Speaker 1: capologists on Frank Clark's contry. I just it's if it
Speaker 1: was my season, I wouldn't need a capologist. I just
Speaker 1: saw a Twitter threat about it that made me think,
Speaker 1: because I Frank Clarks stunk last year. Uh and he
Speaker 1: was one of the richest defensive ends in the league. Guy,
Speaker 1: I think he's only on this team because he had
Speaker 1: stinky He had two sacks in the Super Bowl Jimmy
Speaker 1: g So, I think that's like that. He's he's had
Speaker 1: some goodwill from that, but he hasn't played well. But
Speaker 1: it would have been almost equally expensive to cut him
Speaker 1: because that contract was so onerous that they gave him
Speaker 1: essentially a the best contract almost any defensive end in
Speaker 1: the league got and so it's hard to cut guys
Speaker 1: off of that. And so if it's it's just as
Speaker 1: cheap to keep him, then you might as well keep him.
Speaker 1: I like it. Greg. In other news, Rams left tackle
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth Egon retires after sixteen seasons in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's how you want to go out. You want to
Speaker 1: go out as a champ. You want to go out
Speaker 1: as a left tackle who protected the quarterback, who made
Speaker 1: the big drive at the end of the game. And
Speaker 1: you get the trophy. You have the cool trophy claib
Speaker 1: on the man of the Year, Walter Peyton many so
Speaker 1: you get that, you get a ring, you get like
Speaker 1: what a hundred eighty million dollars, however much he made,
Speaker 1: probably a ton because he was a left tackle of
Speaker 1: high esteem for many years, even if you stuck on
Speaker 1: Cincinnati for a while. And now he walks, hopefully he
Speaker 1: can walk, and he'll do the thing I'm sure mark
Speaker 1: where he loses a hundred pounds in six weeks and
Speaker 1: becomes a normal looking human again and goes out with
Speaker 1: the next phase of his life. Others whispers that he
Speaker 1: is interested in broadcasting, and so he could do the
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas thing where he suddenly becomes like one of
Speaker 1: the hottest five people in America. I mean he's yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in the enfoms is
Speaker 1: one of the five hottest guys in America. I think
Speaker 1: Joe I would say this, like from where Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: when he was like at his beefyst as a left tackle,
Speaker 1: to what he turned into like even in current current
Speaker 1: current hour, like is a shocking. I have to say this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this for all the
Speaker 1: beefy guys out there. You just assume because he drops
Speaker 1: the weight, now he's more attractive. What about the whole
Speaker 1: community that liked him as a big and beefy That's
Speaker 1: that's why it's it's total eye of the beholder, you know,
Speaker 1: subject of scenario. But I do think that most would
Speaker 1: say that Joe Thomas post playing career like upped his
Speaker 1: game a little bit. I mean, he just looks like
Speaker 1: a warrior. So why don't why am I still you
Speaker 1: don't need to keep still discussing this not good for
Speaker 1: his heart. He had a job and he catered his
Speaker 1: body to his job, and now he's got a different job. Whatever,
Speaker 1: body type, Joe Thomas or anybody, Andrew, any body type
Speaker 1: is fine, go for it right live your dream. He
Speaker 1: was not saying that that at that time, and other
Speaker 1: bodies you were. You were doing a little shaming there,
Speaker 1: and I personally body type, I mean, it's like, who's
Speaker 1: going for that? Nobody? So it's like, I am able
Speaker 1: just to see what I think generally would be attractive
Speaker 1: in someone seven million dollars according to spot Wreck, that's
Speaker 1: also attractive. It feels like it should have been more more.
Speaker 1: I always I think PFF. I don't want to give
Speaker 1: him too much credit, but I think they helped him
Speaker 1: get paid. I really do. He's he was like one
Speaker 1: of those guys that was number one in the PFF
Speaker 1: rankings year after year and people are like, huh, Andrew,
Speaker 1: where this guy from Cincinnati? And eventually he ended up
Speaker 1: getting that top tier money. Whose career finished any better
Speaker 1: than Andrew Whitworth getting Walter Payton Man of the Year
Speaker 1: Award with a rousing speech on Thursday and then winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against your former team on Sunday and
Speaker 1: he might end up in the Hall of Fame for it.
Speaker 1: And he had this beautiful moment with his kids on
Speaker 1: the field after the game. That was daddy last football game.
Speaker 1: Let's do it no more. I'm be on with you guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: I promise I'm gonna be a better dad. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be around more. I'm gonna coach the crap out of
Speaker 1: you boys. That's nice, well learned, and you can hear
Speaker 1: in his voice when Tom Brady was saying the same thing,
Speaker 1: It's like, I can't wait to be around you kids
Speaker 1: all the time. Now you around the house. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to be on that wife of mind all the time.
Speaker 1: And he just never in his voice. You could hear it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't genuine. You hear it, Andrew, he was right
Speaker 1: in move. It's authentic. He also got the MinC drop
Speaker 1: moment at the parade where he called out the teams
Speaker 1: that said he was too old. It's like that he
Speaker 1: kind of like Brady. He's helped change the expectations of
Speaker 1: what a forty year old tackle can do. They did
Speaker 1: sign Joe Nopuman. We mentioned it yesterday in the show
Speaker 1: to a nice A nice replaced out who the oldest
Speaker 1: player in the league. That we're shut it down. Well,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, other than that. Yeah, that's Whitworth was to
Speaker 1: probably a kicker. Is there a punter? What about it's
Speaker 1: gotta be a punter out there that Reggie Roby, No,
Speaker 1: not Reggie Ruby. But I've got some say that. I
Speaker 1: mean the two guys, oh, nilt six. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's up. I was just saying, alway straight hand. Are
Speaker 1: the two guys you think that like went out on top.
Speaker 1: They didn't win Walter Payton Man of the Year two
Speaker 1: days before that. Oh, he wanted this year. He wanted
Speaker 1: this year and incredible bowl. No, I forgot. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's cool. It's cool that he wanted. How about this,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that's not as high up on
Speaker 1: my personal like radar, like who won Walter Payton Man
Speaker 1: of the Year. I know it's important to the guys.
Speaker 1: That's cool though. It's a good speech. Hey, you've also
Speaker 1: got a rash of individuals who are thirty nine. But
Speaker 1: he's both co quits still around, you know, you know
Speaker 1: it's not still around with the rams. Let's head to
Speaker 1: the we know there's the kicker club. Let's head to
Speaker 1: the punter punch bowl mixer. Not as exciting the punch
Speaker 1: Bowl Mixer a little old fashioned fuddy duddy you could
Speaker 1: call it, but it's it's got its niche and it's
Speaker 1: a nice little gymnasium where they you know, the hoops,
Speaker 1: they they raised the hoops and then they you know,
Speaker 1: they pulled the bleach bleachers back and open up the
Speaker 1: dance floor. And yeah, the punters and their friends and
Speaker 1: significant others have a nice time together. So john Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's intimate. Johnny Hecker is no longer a member of
Speaker 1: the Rams. Uh, which is I mean, if you're not
Speaker 1: paying attention to the what's going on at the Punter
Speaker 1: punch Bowl Mixer. This surprises you because Hecker has had
Speaker 1: an amazing career and Bill Belichick one said he's godlike,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what he said. He's very high and
Speaker 1: one of the greatest punters of all time, one of
Speaker 1: the greatest punchers of all time, great passer, so a
Speaker 1: weapon in the in the trick play game on fake punts,
Speaker 1: but his game had fallen off in recent years and
Speaker 1: now we could see that the Rams had decided to
Speaker 1: move on. So I imagine, um greg that he will
Speaker 1: have a robust market because he's Johnny Hecker. But the
Speaker 1: Old West is um is he more name than game
Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah, I don't know. I think he'll
Speaker 1: get another job. I don't have a of us smart.
Speaker 1: He was struggling there. He was up and down in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Certainly those games we were we were at.
Speaker 1: Uh did not have had some bad punch in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl too, So I don't think, um, he had
Speaker 1: a great year, but he will be remembered. Finally, he
Speaker 1: was the longest tenured ram My son has a number
Speaker 1: six jersey. It wasn't for Hecker. He was just six
Speaker 1: years old when he got the jersey. But I'm a
Speaker 1: little annoyed now it's it's been deemed irrelevant. You look
Speaker 1: at that way, it's fair. Yeah, only thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: You would think, oh, he's thirty nine, so he's falling off.
Speaker 1: But no, so maybe he's just in a little bit slump. Also,
Speaker 1: the largest punter you will ever see. We we've been
Speaker 1: at rams games of the old Colosseum. It's so far
Speaker 1: and when he walks by you, you're like, there's no
Speaker 1: way that's the punter. He looks like a lineback, and
Speaker 1: he looked different than everyone else at that around that
Speaker 1: punch bowl. He's gonna be a little look, a little
Speaker 1: more intimidate. Oh, that's true. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: big place. But now, are you body shaming people for
Speaker 1: height because he's taller all of a sudden. No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's he's a striking presence as a punter based
Speaker 1: on based on what you're based on his physical not
Speaker 1: because he's five ft two right. No, he's not happy.
Speaker 1: Do you do you see how quickly you fell into
Speaker 1: the same trap. I don't quite I know where you're going,
Speaker 1: but I don't gone. Sorry, Patrick, I think I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a bones, fossil and reunion in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Need a good one, need not connect. Punter uh Brian Anger,
Speaker 1: one of the only punters in the history of the
Speaker 1: Top one oh one. UH is on their Cowboys punter
Speaker 1: maybe the best punter in the league last year out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. He's a free agent. One little tidbit, Yes,
Speaker 1: from behind the glass, Randy offered this Jason Peters age forty.
Speaker 1: He has dustin colkitt beat by about it looks like
Speaker 1: eight well less than a year hanging there. Jason, you
Speaker 1: can do this. You gotta find another I've wrapped that
Speaker 1: we're not gonna come back with any more updates. But
Speaker 1: Randy came in, he absolutely did and save the day.
Speaker 1: He's just passed Randy McMichael on the all time NFL
Speaker 1: Randy Power rankings. Bullock is next. Not a lot of
Speaker 1: competition there. Yeah, who we got, We got Michael Bullock,
Speaker 1: got Moss one. Oh yeah, I mean that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: take you a while. It's gonna, i mean get it.
Speaker 1: Catching Randy Moss is gonna be tough. But what you're
Speaker 1: doing though, keep doing things like that and you know,
Speaker 1: about seventeen or eighteen years, you'll be there. It's about
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Speaker 1: more at upwork. I'm giving the Jacksonville g a you ares,
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Speaker 1: of their moves. We we talked about all the different
Speaker 1: acquisitions yesterday as they essentially are looking to do a
Speaker 1: reboot and saying take two with Trevor Lawrence after the
Speaker 1: abject disaster of Urban Meyer and the season. So anyway,
Speaker 1: here's the update around the Jaguars. They released Miles Jack,
Speaker 1: who was a big time player for them once upon
Speaker 1: a time but has fallen off a bit and now,
Speaker 1: at six years old, he hits the open market. Uh.
Speaker 1: They also have resigned Terry Godwin, the wide receiver. But
Speaker 1: there was another move. I believe, Greg, you want to
Speaker 1: help me out jes Za Jones. Yes, the aforementioned Za
Speaker 1: Jones gets a lot of money for a Raiders wide
Speaker 1: receive that I had not done much. Did we say
Speaker 1: Jones yesterday? I mean you brought it up earlier just
Speaker 1: as a as a joke, but it was the most
Speaker 1: mystifying contract thus far, I would say in free agents?
Speaker 1: Did we did we bring up a Jones yesterday? It
Speaker 1: happened after I was at home when I saw the contract,
Speaker 1: and normally I wouldn't you know, it seemed lst. I
Speaker 1: always remember where I was in bed watching in some
Speaker 1: great tennis action at in in Walls when I learned
Speaker 1: the Z Jones contract and thought it was a misprint.
Speaker 1: It was like, what twenty twenty four million for a
Speaker 1: guy who hadn't had a hundred yard game in about
Speaker 1: eight plus games until late last year. It was very
Speaker 1: It was very strange. You love that event, that is
Speaker 1: you go every year. I was there, I tried to.
Speaker 1: I was there on Saturday and met up with our
Speaker 1: old friend the gold standard, Zack Goldman, And Yeah, if
Speaker 1: I could just sit and watch live tennis all day,
Speaker 1: every day for like a week straight, that sounds like
Speaker 1: a fun. Now. I know this is not Courts of Thunder,
Speaker 1: but since that Vanity podcast is in hiatus, I must
Speaker 1: ask you were you were you there for the Naomi
Speaker 1: Osaka incident? No? I was, Me and Walker went. So
Speaker 1: we just we left around six pm. We did not
Speaker 1: hit the night session, so you were not the heckler
Speaker 1: it was. It was a long day, hot weather, good, good, good, alright,
Speaker 1: So the Jaguar is very busy. Are they're gonna be better?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Claim have they gotten better than the
Speaker 1: last two days? I think the Jags have gotten better.
Speaker 1: Was the expenditure worth it in terms of Za Jones
Speaker 1: and and Evan Ingram? I think the Ingram contracts fine. Um.
Speaker 1: The z A Jones win causes some questions, But spend
Speaker 1: the money. I don't care. It's not my money. People
Speaker 1: get really like about that. All they need to manage
Speaker 1: the cap and and you have to spend here, and
Speaker 1: I think there are better football team, which is the goal.
Speaker 1: I'd like that they're trying to win games. Um, I
Speaker 1: think they could have spent the money more wisely, but
Speaker 1: I do think they have improved. It's like the Patriots
Speaker 1: theory last year. It's like, even if some of those
Speaker 1: signings didn't work out, and some did, some didn't, they
Speaker 1: just needed players that could play, and the Jaguars certainly
Speaker 1: were that. It's just there there mix of receivers for
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence for instance, TJ. DJ Shark went to Detroit
Speaker 1: for one for ten. It's like, is Za Jones an
Speaker 1: upgrade from DJ Shark? I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: The uh, the collection of players z A Jones, Marvin Jones,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram and running back it's like Robinson
Speaker 1: and eat N and that's still a pretty poor group overall.
Speaker 1: Was shocking different than what they floundered amid a year ago. Well,
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson is studying the tape. Obviously wasn't there last year,
Speaker 1: and he's made Yeah, they they wanted to reboot and
Speaker 1: we'll see if it works. That was News and Notes
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Speaker 1: First and foremost, let's talk the Jets, who are very busy.
Speaker 1: My goodness. I like everything they've done so far. The
Speaker 1: latest news they signed safety Jordan Whitehead, formerly of the Bucks,
Speaker 1: to a two year, fourteen and a half million dollar contract. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know one thing, um that I always watched them
Speaker 1: your studying, you know, tweet decks up while you're getting
Speaker 1: ready for the show. When a move like this happens
Speaker 1: and Jordan Whitehaud goes to the Jets, and I see
Speaker 1: the beat writers like quote retweeting the side of like ouch, oh,
Speaker 1: this one's gonna hurt the Bucks. Oh they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: this one pains them to see him get away. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: one of the great twe our moments. And something like
Speaker 1: that happened. So they absolutely needed to replace Marcus May
Speaker 1: who's a free agent coming off an achilles tear. And uh,
Speaker 1: he'll join Ashton Davis. It's safety as it stands that
Speaker 1: could be in the business to add another safety will
Speaker 1: see um. So that's a nice signing. They also add
Speaker 1: to their offense. We talked about um. They they made
Speaker 1: some moves yesterday. Ce j Osama, formerly of the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 1: joins the Jets in a three year, twenty four million
Speaker 1: dollar contract. There it is again that eight or nine million,
Speaker 1: a lot of these tight ends getting that the tag
Speaker 1: was right around ten. So I liked what we saw
Speaker 1: from Muzama last year. And the Jets have been in
Speaker 1: desperate need of somebody who can catch the ball and
Speaker 1: make plays at tight ends. So that addresses that need
Speaker 1: on some level. Uh. They also uh resigned Braxton Barrios,
Speaker 1: which I think we hit on Tevin Coleman as well.
Speaker 1: So the Jets been very busy, not making huge splash
Speaker 1: moves greg but making moves that are addressing, like Jacksonville roster.
Speaker 1: That is Barren. But I just like the way they're
Speaker 1: going about it with Joe Douglas right now. I like
Speaker 1: Jordan's Whitehead. He improved every season. Basically didn't miss a
Speaker 1: snap the last three years. I think if you just
Speaker 1: watched those two playoff games this year, it's a small sample.
Speaker 1: He was probably the best player in their secondary in
Speaker 1: those two games. Made a lot of big plays. Good tackler.
Speaker 1: They were in on Marcus Williams, and Marcus Williams would
Speaker 1: have been nice. White Heads a very different player more.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to make more plays against the run.
Speaker 1: But for the money, I think it it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think it worked out well. They just need to
Speaker 1: add quality starters. It was I'm a big locker room
Speaker 1: guy to Bengals. May not and DJ read cornerback of
Speaker 1: the scene signs three years as well, so I listen,
Speaker 1: this time it's different. Maybe this year is different that
Speaker 1: DJ read. Maybe this year will be better than the last. Well,
Speaker 1: it can't be a whole lot where Salah knows how
Speaker 1: to coach up the secondary individuals. So I like the
Speaker 1: uh the vibe. Right, he was there when DJ Reid
Speaker 1: was drafted, I believe by the forty Niners made very
Speaker 1: little impact as like a fifth round pick there, then
Speaker 1: went to Seattle and was awesome. That's one of those things.
Speaker 1: If he was a first round pick and he put
Speaker 1: together the year and a half that he just put together,
Speaker 1: and and he's not a tall guy, he might be
Speaker 1: like five nine or something like, he would have gotten
Speaker 1: double the money just based off draftbed agree he was
Speaker 1: great for Seattle, uh the last year and a half.
Speaker 1: I mean love of averages. At a certain point, they're
Speaker 1: gonna hit on a mix of players that makes them
Speaker 1: relevant again. But I mean, listen, the Zach wilsonon cannot
Speaker 1: be understated. He needs to take a significant step forward.
Speaker 1: So I would think that their next move, whether it's
Speaker 1: the draft or maybe an Allen Robinson, you gotta add
Speaker 1: more around the kid. But we're very close to me
Speaker 1: feeling legitimately spicy offensive line, new red zone target, draft
Speaker 1: brings wide receivers. I mean, it's never a great sign
Speaker 1: as a fan base when you're leaning hard into the
Speaker 1: law of averages. Will bring us back around. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna work. I mean, the Cincinnati Bengals were three plays
Speaker 1: away from winning the Super Bowl this year. Anything's possible.
Speaker 1: We mentioned here's the lines you mentioned DJ Shark. He
Speaker 1: goes from the Jags to Detroit on a one year,
Speaker 1: ten million dollar contract. Obviously, they need to build more
Speaker 1: playmakers out around Jared Goff to give them a chance
Speaker 1: on offense. I'm not saying Shark is the answer, but
Speaker 1: he's had his moments. They also add to their defense
Speaker 1: Charles harris Um, the former first round pick UH is
Speaker 1: resigned to a two year, fourteen million dollar contract. He
Speaker 1: had a nice season for them last year, career high
Speaker 1: seven and a half sacks, ten tackles for loss. So
Speaker 1: they say, we're keeping that guy in our building in
Speaker 1: all right. In other Midwestern news, the Bears have lost
Speaker 1: James Daniels and the guard has signed with the Steelers
Speaker 1: on a three year, twenty six and a half million
Speaker 1: dollar pack. So uh a day after um Mitch Travisky
Speaker 1: signs with Pittsburgh, they add to their offensive line. They
Speaker 1: also agreed to terms with center Mason Cole, formerly of
Speaker 1: the Vikings, on a three year deal and Patrick Uh.
Speaker 1: It goes without saying that Ben Roethlisberger was shot last
Speaker 1: year and maybe in the last two years, but it
Speaker 1: didn't do him any favors, that the offensive line was
Speaker 1: well below average. So they are addressing that they have
Speaker 1: addressed quarterback. We'll see if these guys can play the guitar.
Speaker 1: And it seems like an admission that the much discussed
Speaker 1: nice air guitar there like them, the much discussed Uh
Speaker 1: offensive line overhaul of did not go as planned. All
Speaker 1: that Nazi accomplished he did in the face of tremendous
Speaker 1: adversity and um and so you like to see it.
Speaker 1: You you like to see teams that admit that, hey,
Speaker 1: this did not work out, the plan did not work out,
Speaker 1: the players did not work out, and we're coming under.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Bengals a little bit, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like I like what Pittsburgh did. Maybe they've
Speaker 1: added three offensive line James Daniels got a decent amount
Speaker 1: of money he was. He was solid for the Bears,
Speaker 1: a young player who's played a lot. And they also
Speaker 1: signed Mason Cole. I think you mentioned they just needed upgrades.
Speaker 1: I I was talking with with our guy Nate Tics
Speaker 1: about this. This is where I do think it makes sense. Like,
Speaker 1: what's the difference between these guys, Anna Lake and Tomlinson?
Speaker 1: Who got top shelf money, um or or some of
Speaker 1: the guys that got huge dollars. I like what the
Speaker 1: Giants have done. They added John Fliciano from Buffalo. Uh
Speaker 1: and who else did they add? I'm forgetting right now
Speaker 1: another guards? Right who who can play? Who's like the
Speaker 1: difference in these guards feels like it's not a huge
Speaker 1: amount if you can coach them up between like the
Speaker 1: middle two lower guys. You just need guys. The Giants
Speaker 1: didn't have guys that the Steelers didn't have guys. They
Speaker 1: got some guys and other news trade alert spicy spicy
Speaker 1: sizzler you got. I think this is West's boy, somebody's boy.
Speaker 1: When we all we all like this, he did, we did.
Speaker 1: He did fall hard for Chase, but I was into
Speaker 1: him too that preseason where he like dominated. The Browns
Speaker 1: have acquired linebacker Chase Winovich from the Patriots in exchange
Speaker 1: for a linebacker Mac Wilson. So there you go, a
Speaker 1: little linebacker for linebacker swap. You get a handsome, fair
Speaker 1: haired Winovich, and I know that means a lot to
Speaker 1: you Mark than eleven sacks and twenty and then he,
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't used the same way. They don't have
Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney, they don't have Tack McKinley, and so they
Speaker 1: they're looking for pass rushing help and I think that
Speaker 1: they're not done on that front. Mack Wilson is from Alabama,
Speaker 1: very hard working player who I think is west and
Speaker 1: I also talked about Mac will smiles because there'll be
Speaker 1: moments where you could see it and then it would
Speaker 1: go away. And so I think he will actually fit
Speaker 1: well with the Patriots. Window witch. I don't understand. He
Speaker 1: always seemed like he was a really good pass rusher
Speaker 1: and he was always on Bill Belichick's bad Well maybe
Speaker 1: he kind of like that they would be a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I don't know why they needed a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: They never played him. I was reading some like tweet
Speaker 1: replies to one of the Pats beat reporters when they
Speaker 1: announced it and apparently he he kind of got on
Speaker 1: the bad side of some people by being way out front,
Speaker 1: like doing a ton of commercials and off the field ventures,
Speaker 1: which I'm not saying likes. That's why he got on
Speaker 1: Belichick's bad side when connecting dots Twitter about that, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, get him out of here. He likes
Speaker 1: to do commercials and make money on the side, because
Speaker 1: don't you think Patriots fans have become like so indoctrinated
Speaker 1: as such Belichickites, so like we also don't agree with
Speaker 1: that culture. Don't promote yourself. You've got to bury this
Speaker 1: thing that like the Patriot way is to be a
Speaker 1: certain way and like it's it's to his wayte and
Speaker 1: have and have good place. But they do have their
Speaker 1: they do have their types. I mean their their free
Speaker 1: agency has been almost comical. They bring back Matthew Slater,
Speaker 1: who you always got to bring back, uh, one of
Speaker 1: the great special teamers. Brought him back. Nick Folk brought
Speaker 1: him back. Kirk Ference's son brought him back. It's just
Speaker 1: like a bunch of guys that Belichick likes to have.
Speaker 1: But here's the dirty little secret. Like the Patriot a
Speaker 1: worked because Tom Brady was and tom TV every second
Speaker 1: and they changed. You know they did. They didn't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year here with the rookie quarterback. That's
Speaker 1: hard to do. Tom Brady, by the way, um, you
Speaker 1: know famously unretired yesterday or day. Remember the recycling back
Speaker 1: into yesterday. We are because I have I have something
Speaker 1: to mention about. I forgot earlier and it was brought up.
Speaker 1: I've heard from some listeners today on on Tuesday's First
Speaker 1: Things First, hosted by Nick Wright. I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: and uh and I got brought up on apparently as
Speaker 1: part of this show. Come on, no, I know he
Speaker 1: was bully going to subscribe to Greg Rosenthal Boston Media.
Speaker 1: I was talking about Tom Brady. Can you play that again?
Speaker 1: He was talking about how that's Tom Brady's dad. Essentially
Speaker 1: was saying that Tom Brady got bullied into retiring by
Speaker 1: the media, that like the media was reporting this stuff
Speaker 1: and so then he was He literally said that he
Speaker 1: was bullied into retiring media. Come on, no, I know
Speaker 1: he was bully going to subscribe to Greg Rosenthal. You
Speaker 1: are a bully because is like the least intimidating member
Speaker 1: of the NFL media. Were you linked into Boston media.
Speaker 1: There is nothing you know that the media was reporting
Speaker 1: this and he was just using me as a as
Speaker 1: a as a person who could represent any and there
Speaker 1: would have to be some more connection. He also threw
Speaker 1: and I I didn't want to give them credit. Later on,
Speaker 1: you guys did that? Oh my half a billionaire, one
Speaker 1: of the world's most famous people's son, greatest football player
Speaker 1: ever got bullied by Ian Rappaport. You won't imagine how
Speaker 1: hard it was for him. He didn't wanter retire, but
Speaker 1: Tom Belasoro released and get out of here this. Idiots
Speaker 1: are they talking because the father is saying that, like
Speaker 1: the concept that Tom Brady would because you'll did unretired
Speaker 1: because media, nobody's and the way he's sort of saying
Speaker 1: their names is that they're they're not like he was
Speaker 1: so um you know, intimidated or or pushed into retiring
Speaker 1: because all these places were reporting it, not that I was.
Speaker 1: It is a preposterous idea. We literally have celebrated the
Speaker 1: man's birthday on air every single breathlessly report every venture
Speaker 1: he undertakes, the movies, commercials, it's NonStop. Nobody has any
Speaker 1: power over Tom. Why would Tom Brady's dad, Like, I
Speaker 1: also think it's nonsense. But why would tom Brady's dad
Speaker 1: cook that up at a thin air and tell the
Speaker 1: radio station that was aggressive by clay By there that
Speaker 1: was like a Cesslerian right there. Why would tom Brady's
Speaker 1: dad just cook that up out of thin air? It
Speaker 1: is confusing to me, and I just say it though.
Speaker 1: Maybe tom Brady's dad's the one who love to love you, bro. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Just run the rest of my life
Speaker 1: with you, every day, every hour, every league. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were on that paper the minute it was announced
Speaker 1: that he was. He didn't even miss an O T
Speaker 1: A practice, He never even filed the paperwork. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the minute you saw that a month it was that photo,
Speaker 1: you knew that was not working. He was so worried
Speaker 1: about the bucking. First of all, he realized he couldn't
Speaker 1: get out of there, and then he was so worried
Speaker 1: that they could have any sort of competitive disadvantage in
Speaker 1: terms of not keeping these guys that his boys were
Speaker 1: about to leave ran Jensen and you can make signings
Speaker 1: that he had to get it done. Uh. Since we're
Speaker 1: bringing up the Patriots, let's just to touch on two
Speaker 1: other moves. They made. They resign uh Nick Folk to
Speaker 1: a two year, five million dollar contract. He's been a
Speaker 1: a real steady guy. He's thirty seven years old. Mark,
Speaker 1: I know you were really hankering for that age data
Speaker 1: on Folk. He's he's gonna turn thirty eight in November.
Speaker 1: So that's that's for you. Thank you. He looks he
Speaker 1: looks great for his age. He's been very he's been
Speaker 1: very good for the Pats. He's a journeyman of all journeyman.
Speaker 1: And then James White, former Super Bowl hero, resigns uh
Speaker 1: two year, five million dollar contracts, so he ain't going
Speaker 1: nowhere and he uh will continue to share a backfield
Speaker 1: with Damien Harris, ra Mondre Stevenson. Oh, now I'm remembering.
Speaker 1: I was kind of an annoying fantasy backfield last year
Speaker 1: for you. Yes, but Damien, Yeah, he stepped up in
Speaker 1: fantasy playoffs. That guy is a player. He's the best
Speaker 1: player in that backfield. Like Stevenson, well, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be. There were waves last season was funny. If
Speaker 1: you were tracking that backfield closely, it was like Damian
Speaker 1: Harris season, it was like this guy is unbelievable, and
Speaker 1: then he got hurt Romandre Stevenson had like a hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty yard games, like this is the true stud
Speaker 1: of this backfield. Oh yeah, and then Damian Harris is
Speaker 1: by the end of the season is scoring four touchdowns
Speaker 1: a week in the regular season. It was like, Okay, then,
Speaker 1: like Brandon Bolden comes in, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: the fantasy issue with the Patriots backfield is more the
Speaker 1: Patriots handle injuries than this is the host by the
Speaker 1: way of NFL Fantasy Live on NFL Network, So do
Speaker 1: you want to get in? I know what they're doing
Speaker 1: with the network cover this week. It's like, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna throw it to Adam rank Uh, here we go.
Speaker 1: Let's get the whole crew in there. Michael f Florio,
Speaker 1: Get Florio in the mix. How about Patrick Clayban, Now,
Speaker 1: give us a little fantasy spin. What's that's it? That's
Speaker 1: that's it's also my job to just throw it to
Speaker 1: those guys and then them do it. I just think
Speaker 1: because people think that there's some oh the the team
Speaker 1: and it's Belichick, we never know how they We don't
Speaker 1: know because like we just don't know who's gonna play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy had a torn face for the whole season,
Speaker 1: they did another receiver. That's right at shake Mason. Money
Speaker 1: is going check Mason now next time. Marcus Grant saying
Speaker 1: to You're like, no, man, you're just the host that
Speaker 1: don't say anything. Said the footage of you saying he
Speaker 1: has a torn face, Well, we didn't have that information.
Speaker 1: That's new information. Face The whole thing's face off. Face off,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure that the box office numbers were face
Speaker 1: off much better, very good, better than Dave. Maybe I
Speaker 1: would guarantee it. Well, now we're moving the we're moving
Speaker 1: the goalpost. Now. It went from Dave was a bomb
Speaker 1: to now it has to beat face off, which was
Speaker 1: peak Travolta cage. I never said it was a wonderful
Speaker 1: surprise for the studio. I think surprise hit for the studio, middling,
Speaker 1: broken arrow maker. Why don't they make movies for that
Speaker 1: like that anymore? It's adults, you know. It's like, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch Superhero. It's just like a
Speaker 1: mid budget movie. I like this guy, this guy exists.
Speaker 1: All right, let's finish this up. It's time to go.
Speaker 1: H I tried to bang out that Patriots news for
Speaker 1: you before, but you know, I think we're good. Anything
Speaker 1: else's bar have signed cornerback char Various Ward, formerly of
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, three years, forty two million dollars. So that's
Speaker 1: a nice signing for the Nagers, right. It's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that it's anytime you watch him like this
Speaker 1: guy seems really good, and then PFF grades him really highly,
Speaker 1: and yet no one never kind of mentioned him as
Speaker 1: one of the better cornerbacks in the league. And but
Speaker 1: NFL teams know they watched it, and they paid him
Speaker 1: like one of the better corner They have a young
Speaker 1: secondary Emmanuel Moseley and Thomas who was you know, very
Speaker 1: hot and cold last year. But again, I trust that
Speaker 1: defense to coach those guys up system. Danbry Thomas was
Speaker 1: a on Today's but I'm looking I have been. I
Speaker 1: did a lot of my research on the oldest players.
Speaker 1: Now you're asking me someone on the other and I
Speaker 1: didn't know if you have all bases coverage in the
Speaker 1: age game right now, but I will find out. I'll
Speaker 1: find out for you. While you discussed the next thing
Speaker 1: you discussed, all right, we got one more thing to discuss,
Speaker 1: and we took a trip to the local high school gymnasium.
Speaker 1: The puncher, punch club, punch bowl mixer. Now we're going
Speaker 1: to go to the kicker club. This is where the
Speaker 1: cool people laying out. This is the this is the buzzy,
Speaker 1: this is the get behind the velvet ropes. Join us
Speaker 1: because you know he's popping bottles. Young wicker. Five years.
Speaker 1: Kickers don't get five years twenty four point to five
Speaker 1: million dollars eleven and a half guarantees. No, it's better
Speaker 1: than a million dollars a billion dollars that's what Justin
Speaker 1: Tucker gets on his next deal. But cool will take
Speaker 1: this locked up through his age thirty two season, second
Speaker 1: highest paid kicker in the league, trailing only the off
Speaker 1: fore mentioned Justin Tucker, who's making five and it should
Speaker 1: be ten. And I'm literally not joking. That's how valuable
Speaker 1: he is to his team. And he is a one
Speaker 1: of one. Justin Tucker only makes only makes five million
Speaker 1: dollars a year, five million. That seems absurd to me.
Speaker 1: It seems like an opportunity to explore. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a little crazy if you if you really think about
Speaker 1: no offense to fully Fatakasi, who I liked a lot,
Speaker 1: but the fact that uh, Fatakasi is making double What
Speaker 1: makes saying that's pretty Tucker who actually creates points with
Speaker 1: his feet and he does it at a at a
Speaker 1: level that we've never seen before. All Right, anyway, he
Speaker 1: needs to hold out and change, you know, do it.
Speaker 1: He needs to be like levy on Bell for running backs,
Speaker 1: except more effective in terms of changing the market. You
Speaker 1: know how he was doing it for the running backs.
Speaker 1: Tucker's just got to sit out until he gets more money.
Speaker 1: Should hire, doesn't It's the unselfish nature of that levy
Speaker 1: on Bell hold out that always, you know that stuff.
Speaker 1: He should hire like Odell's dad. They put together just
Speaker 1: like a clip of all the other kickers and Ravens histories.
Speaker 1: Suck left like Matt Stover was an excellent kicker. Well, no,
Speaker 1: that was before they moved so well, legendary figure, obviously
Speaker 1: an excellent tradition. Ravens kicks. Abrey Thomas, by the way,
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Listen to this factoid born on
Speaker 1: nine nine. There is h Matt Stover's fifty four by
Speaker 1: the way, make sense. He was kicking in the nineties
Speaker 1: and you know early aughts Patriots will have him in
Speaker 1: for a tryout later anyway, kup was awesome last year,
Speaker 1: eighty seven or ninety four, seven, ninety four in the
Speaker 1: past three years and makes all his extra points thirteen
Speaker 1: of fourteen from fifty plus. So he when we watched
Speaker 1: how he did his business up close five ft away,
Speaker 1: we were standing on the sidelines right next to London,
Speaker 1: right in London, and we were impressed at the intensity
Speaker 1: and how seriously he took his job. Not really like
Speaker 1: we wouldn't think it, but it's a raging intensity throughout
Speaker 1: the game. Also converted multiple onside kicks and the dead
Speaker 1: ball onside kicking as well. He's right shout out strong
Speaker 1: guy too, you know, very thick in the legs. He
Speaker 1: actually he does the thing where he cuts the bottom
Speaker 1: of the pants too. He needs those thighs to breathe.
Speaker 1: Nice move. I only get that insight when you are
Speaker 1: down on the field literally once good note, we wish
Speaker 1: you were there Mark. It should be said that Mark,
Speaker 1: due to health issues, was not able to join us
Speaker 1: in London. Wasn't the same without you, and we understand.
Speaker 1: Bringing up young white wus thighs gives you a little
Speaker 1: fomo and I apologize. It gives me motivation to get
Speaker 1: back to London or at least to a Falcons game.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Patrick, you've said it all, You've come here,
Speaker 1: and this is a big show to be on. I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't just hand out the golden ticket to be
Speaker 1: on the legal tampering period episode unless we know the
Speaker 1: guy has the goods. Patrick was on last year's Free
Speaker 1: Agency Frenzy. It tells you everything said just second and
Speaker 1: another really strong episode from you. I mean, there's just
Speaker 1: no other way around it. And uh, you know, life
Speaker 1: is good on a beach during the biggest week of
Speaker 1: the offseason, But what's more fulfilling being behind the glass?
Speaker 1: Certainly maybe smarter from a career standpoint. I'll leave it there.
Speaker 1: Let's see the top ten free agents available. Drown Armstead
Speaker 1: at number one on Greg's list, still out there, Von
Speaker 1: Miller number three, stiffing around. Supposedly we'll see Vonder little
Speaker 1: like has a I believe a ranch in outside of Dallas,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out your list. Here goes from one
Speaker 1: to three, so they're just pulling it out. They're taking
Speaker 1: players that were signed in putting them at the bottom.
Speaker 1: So Chandler Jones out of the Ranga like it because
Speaker 1: you see where their original RECU is. Okay, so Tehran
Speaker 1: number one, Von Miller three, Chandler Jones A little surprise.
Speaker 1: He has not found a team yet, but it's still early.
Speaker 1: A lot of people were doing work for his agent
Speaker 1: over the build up to the start of free agency.
Speaker 1: But generally when a player doesn't sign now through what
Speaker 1: is it, thirty six hours, almost it's a sign that
Speaker 1: that was got some phony stuff. If you had the
Speaker 1: money that he wanted, he would have signed by now.
Speaker 1: Not that he's not going to get a great deal,
Speaker 1: but he's not getting the deal that was expected and
Speaker 1: maybe people were promising. Honey Badger is out there at six.
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson out there. He was eight on Greg's list. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's the top ten remaining players. Also notable players in
Speaker 1: the top twenty. O'Dell. That feels like it's going to
Speaker 1: happen with the Rams, but we don't know. Stefan Gilmore,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown, Winston Wagner, Clowney so Darius Smith and Colias
Speaker 1: Kimpbell some some Gilmore to the Jets top. It feels
Speaker 1: like the Jets are in a lot of these, just
Speaker 1: like being involved in the negotiations, So you don't know
Speaker 1: how serious it is. But some Gilmore Jets chatter. Also,
Speaker 1: I knowed Rich me and he said that that is
Speaker 1: not a target for the Jebs. But I noted that
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead is a cousin of Darrell Revs. So how
Speaker 1: about that? Okay, enough time has passed where my frustration
Speaker 1: and anger towards Durrell's second time with the Jets has passed,
Speaker 1: and I want him to be a part of the
Speaker 1: Jets family forever. So I'm happy to hear that it's
Speaker 1: a big step to access to the well. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I mean he literally stole from them. It takes two.
Speaker 1: Aren't you more mad at the franchise? He didn't he
Speaker 1: didn't work hard like Flags five forever. I think people
Speaker 1: think of him as a patriot. You know what an
Speaker 1: important part of season he was? He really was. Um
Speaker 1: you're a bad guy. Um. Alright, So we'll be back
Speaker 1: again tomorrow for the official New Year uh, and then
Speaker 1: maybe Thursday. Let's see, we'll see if you do it
Speaker 1: down again. We managed to stretch it into well over
Speaker 1: an hour anyways, but it did slow down today, right.
Speaker 1: It depending on how things play out, but we'll probably
Speaker 1: have two more shows this week and then the around
Speaker 1: the NFL broadcast a close thing out on Friday on
Speaker 1: NFL network. Uh, you might have to. I don't like
Speaker 1: the way you probably will like probably and you're listen,
Speaker 1: you're invited to sit a show out. Um, Mark, I'm
Speaker 1: more concerned about, like, let's let's be as relevant as possible. Well,
Speaker 1: that's you know, sometimes less as more. It's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: If if there's less information, always to give me another option.
Speaker 1: We could just change around the days we do it.
Speaker 1: Let it build up a little, tape it quickly. On
Speaker 1: Friday after the TV show. I mean that that would
Speaker 1: be Saturday, we drop Saturday. What do we just do?
Speaker 1: Fifteen minute episodes seven days a week. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: verbally not responding at this point. All right, good stuff,
Speaker 1: Thank you again, Patrick, Thank you guys. Where can we
Speaker 1: find you? Twitter dot com, slash Patrick out here about
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