Speaker 1: It's brook and Jeffrey in the morning, and this segment
Speaker 1: is just like an Indiana Jones movie. Yeah, why, but
Speaker 1: I like it. They're gonna be boulders rolling up for us, obviously,
Speaker 1: Doctor Jones. Oh afraid of snakes, but not afraid of
Speaker 1: seeking out the truth. Okay. Meanwhile, Brooks one of his
Speaker 1: horny college students, just trying to get what an easy A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't. Don't look like that's not true. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be that. I would be like Laura Croft
Speaker 1: tomb raiders something. I know, it's a different theories. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's a hot outfit, Alex. Okay, the leaves the metaphors
Speaker 1: to the expert over here, Doctor Jones stuck. Meanwhile, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm joking now because this is a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a serious segment that we do. I want
Speaker 1: to be the little kid we help if we help
Speaker 1: one of our listeners get some much needed answers about
Speaker 1: a weird situation from their past, and a woman named
Speaker 1: rock Sand reached out asking for help. So Rock Sand,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the office of Doctor Jones. Oh well, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Are we going to be exploring your
Speaker 1: tomb Who I just meant like where she keeps her secrets.
Speaker 1: You're really bad at this stuff, like the mummies. You know.
Speaker 1: I apologize for my co host over there, but you
Speaker 1: know how the closure call works. First, we want to
Speaker 1: hear a little bit about you, though, So tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself. Well, I'm thirty one and
Speaker 1: I actually listen every day I'm Spotify. I just you
Speaker 1: guys are freaking amazing. Oh. I actually never thought I
Speaker 1: would email you for help though, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of embarrassing, but I need your help. Okay,
Speaker 1: And who exactly are we helping you with. His name
Speaker 1: is Ian and he is my ex boyfriend. As soon
Speaker 1: as you said Ian, I knew it just the just
Speaker 1: the way she said it, you know, a little bit
Speaker 1: of longing, a little bit of disgust about it. Tell
Speaker 1: us a little more about you and Ian. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's like she knows him a little longing or a
Speaker 1: little disgust. Ye. Yes, So basically we are exes from
Speaker 1: a while back, about about six years ago, we first met,
Speaker 1: and we basically met at our friend's lake cabin. We
Speaker 1: were invited by you know, friends of friends kind of
Speaker 1: a thing, and started dating after that, so that obviously
Speaker 1: it worked out and it was great and okay, and
Speaker 1: we were basically, I would say, a month to month
Speaker 1: and a half in when I first was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he could be the one that's such a
Speaker 1: big feeling. Yeah it was. It was okay, So now
Speaker 1: we're getting to the yucky part. God, So basically we're
Speaker 1: like a month and a half in, almost two months in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I went to his house because we were supposed
Speaker 1: to go out that night. Okay, I ring. He lived
Speaker 1: in an apartment, and it was an apartment where you
Speaker 1: had to ring the buzzer to get into the main
Speaker 1: like corridor. So I ring the buzzer, No one answers,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, maybe he like went down to
Speaker 1: the garage, you know. So I wait a few minutes,
Speaker 1: I text him, no answer, and then someone ends up
Speaker 1: coming out, so I, you know, kind of let myself
Speaker 1: in and I go up to his apartment and I'm
Speaker 1: not even freaking kidding. His door is wide open, his
Speaker 1: entire apartment empty. What who? Like, everything gone, kitchen stuff gone,
Speaker 1: pictures off the wall, gone, TV gone, Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling in that moment? Oh? My god,
Speaker 1: I'm like freaked out. I feel like I'm in the
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone basically because I'm like, wait a minute, I
Speaker 1: am dating this guy, right? What's he a pigment of
Speaker 1: my imagination? I'm freaking weird. I mean a part of
Speaker 1: me is like, did he get hit by a bus
Speaker 1: and he's dead and they came and cleaned out his place?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that doesn't happen in twenty four hours? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if that's the case. So did you ever find out
Speaker 1: what happened with Ian? So? I ended up the next
Speaker 1: day after work going over there, and basically the manager
Speaker 1: said said he cut off basically his voice early and
Speaker 1: just moved out. Whoa, Yeah, he paid all the fees
Speaker 1: to end his leave early and literally moved out expensive.
Speaker 1: Wait what are you thinking? Lake? Did you ask friends
Speaker 1: because like he was at the party where all your
Speaker 1: friends were at the lake cabin? Yeah, totally. So I've
Speaker 1: reached out to basically, we have like three or four
Speaker 1: mutual friends. None of them heard anything from him either,
Speaker 1: and all of them texted and called and got no
Speaker 1: response at all. What about his job? Did he quit
Speaker 1: his job too? Do you know he worked from home
Speaker 1: for this? Like tech company, so I actually, you know
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, right, So you're looking around getting
Speaker 1: no answers, and then apparently in your email that you
Speaker 1: sent us, you said one of your friends from the
Speaker 1: Lake Cabins saw him out one day and you found
Speaker 1: out that he's working at a store in the same city.
Speaker 1: What exactly? Wait? So wait this is like six years later,
Speaker 1: you've just found him six years later. My girlfriend text
Speaker 1: me picture and it's like basically she's like in the
Speaker 1: aisle of the store and it's like, you know, the
Speaker 1: backs of people's heads, and then you see this guy.
Speaker 1: She goes, isn't this him? And then I'm like, without
Speaker 1: a doubt, it's ian. How did you feel when you're
Speaker 1: looking at that photo? Oh my god? First of all,
Speaker 1: like furious, Like did he move out of his apartment
Speaker 1: and then moved two blocks down the road and then
Speaker 1: like just leave our entire social circle and like continue
Speaker 1: to live in the same freaking city yea? Or though
Speaker 1: did he leave? Did something happen and now he's back?
Speaker 1: But mother, he is back, and like didn't even reach
Speaker 1: out to me. Like that doesn't make any sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: have you ever thought that, like, you know, you were
Speaker 1: only a month and a half into the relationship. Maybe
Speaker 1: he and you sounded super into it. Maybe he just wasn't,
Speaker 1: so he moved. I don't know. I know other people
Speaker 1: break up. My mom used to move cities to get
Speaker 1: away from men. I mean, I know it's like sounds nuts,
Speaker 1: but like sometimes it's just really hard for people. You know,
Speaker 1: I would think, Okay, So when I look back, especially now,
Speaker 1: so far removed, very clear headed, I did not see
Speaker 1: a single red flag because anything that we did together
Speaker 1: he was like totally invested in, just like I was.
Speaker 1: So that was six years ago, and now he suddenly
Speaker 1: popped back up on the radar in your city, and
Speaker 1: you still don't have any answers, which is why you
Speaker 1: reached out to us. And you know how this works,
Speaker 1: Rock Sand. We don't like to pry, but our producer,
Speaker 1: Producer Boyd, called Ian more than once apparently got hung
Speaker 1: up on a few times the story stop asking dumb questions. Yes,
Speaker 1: But finally he asked if we could email Ian a
Speaker 1: few questions from you and then we leave him alone
Speaker 1: after that, and Ian agreed. And so my co host
Speaker 1: didn't know your story before this, Rock Sand. They don't
Speaker 1: know the questions that we sent, but Ian did send
Speaker 1: his answers back. Now, are you still curious to hear
Speaker 1: or have you gotten over it in the last six minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm literally sweaty, and I'm like all anxious right now,
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of freaking out. But yes, of course
Speaker 1: they want to hear. So we'll hear what your ex
Speaker 1: boyfriend from six years ago who suddenly vanished has to
Speaker 1: say now when we do your closure call next. I
Speaker 1: wish we could mean this, you know, like that awkward
Speaker 1: moment when your boyfriend suddenly disappears from your life and
Speaker 1: then reappears six years later. So we call a radio
Speaker 1: show to get answers. Why. Yeah, it's a little bit
Speaker 1: too much text, But is it just like a baby
Speaker 1: with one eyebrow up? Like yeah, thinking about it? Either
Speaker 1: that or just a picture of his empty apartment that
Speaker 1: that could work too, because that's what we're doing today
Speaker 1: for our closure call with Rock Sand. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Six years ago she was seeing a guy named Ian
Speaker 1: for a little over a month yea when without warning
Speaker 1: he moved out of his apartment and cut off all
Speaker 1: communication with Rock Sand and everybody in their social circle.
Speaker 1: But now he's popped up again in her area, and
Speaker 1: she's asked us for help. And Roxanne's already worked with
Speaker 1: our producer to send four questions to her ex to
Speaker 1: try and figure out what happened all those years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Roxanne, I have so many more than
Speaker 1: four questions for you. Yeah, we'll find out. But Brooke,
Speaker 1: You're a best friend to many emotional women, So I'm
Speaker 1: really hoping that you can be there for Roxanne as
Speaker 1: we read these. Can we count on you? Yeah, for sure, Roxanne.
Speaker 1: I mean I have a lot of words I could
Speaker 1: call him right now that I can't say on the
Speaker 1: radio that would probably make you feel better. I mean
Speaker 1: I have literally gone everywhere in my brain to wonder,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like at this point,
Speaker 1: do you think that he could say anything that you
Speaker 1: would forgive him for this? Honestly, I just I just
Speaker 1: don't know. I just want to hear the answers. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: No matter what, though, we are here for you. If
Speaker 1: it's good, if it's bad, We're always going to help
Speaker 1: hang your backs. Yes, So here we go. The first
Speaker 1: question that we sent was, Hi, how was your day? No,
Speaker 1: that's like blowing one of her three, Julie wishes on hey,
Speaker 1: can I get a ride to the earbox, and He's like, okay, question,
Speaker 1: I'm just joking around now here. Here's what we really said.
Speaker 1: The first question was I've always wondered what happened six
Speaker 1: years ago when you suddenly disappeared. I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to let it go. Please tell me something. So Ian
Speaker 1: responded to that, Ian said, are you ready? Roxanne? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, he said. At the time, it was too
Speaker 1: painful to tell you what was going on, because I'd
Speaker 1: fallen for you and was dreaming of our future together.
Speaker 1: But a few months before we met, i'd broken it
Speaker 1: off with my ex. She still wanted me back, but
Speaker 1: my heart was with you. Then, around six weeks into
Speaker 1: our relationship, I got news that completely changed my life.
Speaker 1: My ex called and told me that she was six
Speaker 1: months pregnant with my baby. Oh God, he sa have
Speaker 1: worked out, he says, Even though it completely broke my heart,
Speaker 1: I felt like the right thing to do was drop
Speaker 1: everything and try to make myself available for the sake
Speaker 1: of my kid. I'm so sorry. I probably didn't handle
Speaker 1: it right, but I was scared and didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do. Oh Man, Oh, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: to say right at I just feel like he didn't
Speaker 1: even give you a chance, Like it doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: he would have had to choose between the two worlds,
Speaker 1: Like why couldn't he have been a good father and
Speaker 1: stayed with you. I mean, it's kind of a cowardly
Speaker 1: way out, but I think at least he was his
Speaker 1: heart was in the right place. He was thinking about
Speaker 1: his kid and his family. I mean, it is a
Speaker 1: tough decision when you're when you have that moment in
Speaker 1: your life and it's sprung upon you and you don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. What's the right answer her? If
Speaker 1: he would have just talked to her, maybe he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had to make a decision like that, you know, Like, yeah, rocks,
Speaker 1: And how would you have felt if he had came
Speaker 1: to you with that in that moment. I feel like
Speaker 1: if he came to me and said, my heart is
Speaker 1: with you, but I feel like I need to do
Speaker 1: this to be a good person and a good father.
Speaker 1: I feel like, no matter what he ended up doing,
Speaker 1: I would have had so much respect for him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he likes was honest. Yeah, it seems so weird
Speaker 1: that he just like up and left. I mean, I
Speaker 1: believe him. I believe him, but I'm still like my
Speaker 1: jaws like on the floor idea. We found out a
Speaker 1: lot of information just on question one, but we have
Speaker 1: a bunch more here. That was crazy. I'm like emotional
Speaker 1: after the first. So the second question that we sent,
Speaker 1: and remember we sent all of these together. We don't
Speaker 1: know what the answers are beforehand. So the second one
Speaker 1: we sent was why did you feel the need to
Speaker 1: leave without telling me anything? Oh? Yeah, And so he answered,
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you more than anything, but I
Speaker 1: was worried. I thought it would make the decision harder
Speaker 1: to choose between you and my child, and I was
Speaker 1: scared that I might pick you. Oh my god, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, I'm gonna cry right now.
Speaker 1: It's okay. We're used to women crying on the show.
Speaker 1: At He just kind of frustrated with him, like he
Speaker 1: didn't trust you enough to to That's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: He said, you didn't trust himself enough. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If he would have went to her,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't have given him that ultimatum. She wouldn't have
Speaker 1: said you either get to be the baby daddy or
Speaker 1: you get to be with me. You could get to
Speaker 1: be bold, right. And remember this all happened just like
Speaker 1: a month into their relationship, so it's hard to make
Speaker 1: decisions like this. But let's go to the third question
Speaker 1: that we sent, which was, so tell me about your
Speaker 1: life now? Okay? Do you still want to know about
Speaker 1: Ian's life now? Roxanne, Yeah, I do. Okay, are you okay? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I just this is like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, yeah, I want to hear. I really
Speaker 1: want to hear. Well. He says, it was hard in
Speaker 1: the beginning, and then it got easier and now it's
Speaker 1: back to being difficult. The reason why is I found
Speaker 1: out from a different friend that the baby might not
Speaker 1: be mine biologically. Oh my god, wait a minute. She
Speaker 1: why just to keep him around? He says, I'm eating
Speaker 1: to hear back on DNA tests. But at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm the father and it's a commitment I need to
Speaker 1: see through, even though I may have been tricked into
Speaker 1: doing it. Oh but here's the thing. I mean, it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he's with the mom, right, It doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like that to me. It just sounds like he's
Speaker 1: the father of the child. I mean there could be
Speaker 1: an opening. I mean, I don't know. I'm maybe I'm
Speaker 1: being nuts, but there still could be an opening for you, guys,
Speaker 1: because obviously this was a huge, huge thing that you
Speaker 1: maybe could have worked through, maybe still could work through.
Speaker 1: And that leads us to the next question, question four,
Speaker 1: which was do you still have any feelings for rock Sand?
Speaker 1: I don't sit down, Jose sit down? Are you ready?
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. I don't know anything, you guys,
Speaker 1: There's not going to be a good answer here. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to know what Rock sande.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be good. This is the closure that
Speaker 1: you need, you know, and he's still a good version. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So remember we said, do you still have any feelings
Speaker 1: for rock Sane? He said, Rock Sand Rock Sand. All
Speaker 1: she wanted to do is party. I'm sorry, it's just
Speaker 1: this is a little bit tense for me, sir, But
Speaker 1: here's what humor And wrote back. We did dance right there,
Speaker 1: he said, I'll always have love for rock Sand. I
Speaker 1: do think about her sometimes and what could have happened
Speaker 1: between us of things played out differently other than my
Speaker 1: kid being born. Those two months with her were still
Speaker 1: the most special times of my life and I'll never
Speaker 1: forget that. Girl. You got to go hunt him down
Speaker 1: at this store and make out with them. Okay, don't
Speaker 1: don't hunt him, just go talk to him, find him. Okay,
Speaker 1: no hunting allowed. But Roxanne, you did get some answers there,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, obviously the child thing has to
Speaker 1: be a huge shocker to you. But closure, to me,
Speaker 1: it sounds like the door is still a little bit open.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I just feel like, are we
Speaker 1: even the same people now that we were six years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh god, my mind is just reeling. Yes, there's closure
Speaker 1: because at least now I know why, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like his reasoning makes me feel any better.
Speaker 1: And now to find out he was potentially scammed into
Speaker 1: leaving makes me feel like, are you okay? Sorry, that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay. It's a lot of big, strong feelings. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, what you do have closure on is at
Speaker 1: least you know you were on the same page for
Speaker 1: those two months you were both experiencing crazy love emotions.
Speaker 1: He felt the same way. At least it wasn't like
Speaker 1: lobside and and you don't know if you guys still
Speaker 1: have it or not until you go hunt him down.
Speaker 1: We're running short on time here, Roxane. But my god,
Speaker 1: you have to promise us that you're going to stay
Speaker 1: in touch and keep us updated on what happens. I
Speaker 1: definitely will. I mean I still listen to you. I
Speaker 1: will continue to listen to you every day. This is
Speaker 1: so freaking weird though, And oh my god, that was
Speaker 1: your closure call. Wow. Gets broken Jeffrey in the morning.