Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast. He isn't resting their starters
Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hansas. I have some heroes with me, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. You know. I don't like to miss shows. Boys,
Speaker 1: I get a lot of fomo. But family called and
Speaker 1: I needed to do some good fam time over there
Speaker 1: in Anaheim. Did it. But I'm happy to be back.
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing. It's good to be good to have
Speaker 1: you back. Doesn't feel right without you here. We we
Speaker 1: had our fun on the broadcast and and with Clay
Speaker 1: Bon and Henry. But it's just it's it's wrong. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. How I imagine I did. I was
Speaker 1: kind of out of pocket, so I didn't hear the
Speaker 1: show or see the program in NFL network. Um, how
Speaker 1: did Greg doing the host chair? Mark? I thought he
Speaker 1: did a um A competent job. Not surprisingly. Um, I
Speaker 1: was knows this is a tricky. This is like Andrew
Speaker 1: Barry trying to answer questions. Well now, because there's I
Speaker 1: think that Greg, Um, you know, I'll just say I'll
Speaker 1: put it this way. After the show, UM, I was
Speaker 1: driving home and got a text from Greg really yeah
Speaker 1: about the show and about his own performance. Um, which
Speaker 1: I you know, I always vote no. It's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: I know that Greg, like he he You know, Kyleen
Speaker 1: hosted the broadcast. By the way, this is what this
Speaker 1: text said. By the way, what up? I did an
Speaker 1: incredible job with that. I'm sure you agree. I feel power,
Speaker 1: real human power flowing through my bloodstream. I am nothing
Speaker 1: short of an unstoppable fireball in this industry, in our league.
Speaker 1: Check your latter brock. Greg. Obviously, I was poking around
Speaker 1: looking for that naked ambition and there it was in
Speaker 1: the text. I mean, I didn't even respond to it
Speaker 1: because it's like, I don't even know. That just gets
Speaker 1: me in the middle of I like, in your know,
Speaker 1: pretend little text that you rode out nicely for yourself.
Speaker 1: You made all caps for real human power. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you really this is how you sent it.
Speaker 1: And then I want to because I don't know if
Speaker 1: this came up late in the week, but I know
Speaker 1: obviously it's in a emotional roller coaster of a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks for you, Mark. And it should be noted
Speaker 1: that one of your great heroes on Twitter reached out
Speaker 1: to you, Mark Hamill, and that had to be a
Speaker 1: real thrill for you. It was a boost. Right, this
Speaker 1: is not the right song. He wouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: Simone on that day. I mean, Mark was just right.
Speaker 1: He was excited. Bill Bill, Bill, We've interacted before, but
Speaker 1: this this felt a little bit different. Um. I thought
Speaker 1: it unified us in a in a stronger way. Mark him,
Speaker 1: he knows who you are at this point. You guys
Speaker 1: are probably friends Twitter friends. I got in the mix
Speaker 1: when you initially tagged him on it, and I replied, Hey,
Speaker 1: how about my buddy Mark with the sea I think
Speaker 1: you might have been the change agent on that idea.
Speaker 1: I hope I was, And if I wasn't, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter that all the matters that you have a direct
Speaker 1: Cesler Hamill connected perfectly in sync. Right, although this is
Speaker 1: the score from Superman. Just to be clear, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we try our best. By now it's a pet You
Speaker 1: did that on purpose. I tried my best. I worked
Speaker 1: with Erica to produced the best show possible and if
Speaker 1: I fell short in that regard, let's get to the news.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to get to. Will Smith just
Speaker 1: smacked it out of it. Love it, Love monoculture moments.
Speaker 1: I love things that everyone's talking about. You know. I
Speaker 1: was out with the family. Keith and Deb are still
Speaker 1: in town. We went out and had a nice pizza
Speaker 1: dinner with the boys, and when news of this incident
Speaker 1: with Rock and Smith happened at the Oscars, you heard
Speaker 1: it buzzing all over the restaurant in this outdoor area
Speaker 1: we're at. And then you go and check it out
Speaker 1: and there it is. And then when I'm checking out
Speaker 1: with the hostess, it was a place where you pay
Speaker 1: at the front. I showed it to her because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to share it with I wanted to share
Speaker 1: this moment. And I was thinking, it's like the nice
Speaker 1: version of Peter King telling that hostess that who was
Speaker 1: it that died? Robin Williams. Robin Williams not funny, but
Speaker 1: come on, um, I'm I was thinking about it. What
Speaker 1: would be the NFL equivalent of that moment? And I
Speaker 1: and I said, what, okay, would it be? For instance,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on the stage at NFL Honors saying something
Speaker 1: and then like Brett Farve gets up and Molly WAPs him.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it doesn't work because these and
Speaker 1: we know being up close to these guys that they're
Speaker 1: all very macho, and no one takes the slap. There's
Speaker 1: no NFL player that takes that slap without a becoming
Speaker 1: a ruckus. So then I was thinking it probably would
Speaker 1: have to be again, let's set it at NFL Honors.
Speaker 1: Let's put Steve Harvey up there. He says something about
Speaker 1: Steve Smith. I'll throw wide receiver out there. Um that
Speaker 1: might be involved in something. I guess gets up the stairs.
Speaker 1: Smack Steve Harvey. I think it can't be player on player.
Speaker 1: It has to be uh, player on personality, player on
Speaker 1: performer on com individual or or Steve Smith if he
Speaker 1: hears this somewhere in the building, right, well, right, I
Speaker 1: think we that would be a better analog. I think
Speaker 1: is Mark slapping me in the face during during the podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't know if NFL Honors and Steve Harvey is
Speaker 1: getting a lot of pop, but I feel like if
Speaker 1: if Mark slapped me hard in the face because I
Speaker 1: just went went too far one of these times, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it wouldn't be a monoculture moment, but for our
Speaker 1: podcast listeners it would be seizeman. If that happens. One day,
Speaker 1: I will tell you, I will be the happiest man
Speaker 1: in the world, not because of any boiling point being reached,
Speaker 1: but the entertained value of a slap. Slap in the
Speaker 1: student I'll take it doesn't have to be Mark Greg,
Speaker 1: anyone getting just slapped, Like Ricky maybe comes in here
Speaker 1: like she's oh, Dan made one too many jokes about
Speaker 1: my vacation. I'm just gonna Molly WAPs like that would
Speaker 1: be cool. Well, she's a total wild card. I could
Speaker 1: see that. That would be amazing, that would be hilarious.
Speaker 1: Get mad Greg too, Like if you just came in,
Speaker 1: what if I slapped all three of you, like just
Speaker 1: down the line, like just boom boom ball at one point,
Speaker 1: cartoons on the second and third person for allowing that
Speaker 1: after you know you see the first one. That's true.
Speaker 1: Um And by the way, a little later in the show,
Speaker 1: now that free agency is really unfolding here and we're
Speaker 1: in the what would this be the third wave we're
Speaker 1: in now? I don't know. I think we're in the
Speaker 1: second second wave, but the third week. So it's it's
Speaker 1: been it's been going on for a while. You know
Speaker 1: what it also is it's almost gray Beard season. I
Speaker 1: gotta roll out the two thousand, twenty two gray gray beards.
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to Ali Bun Purry um about that
Speaker 1: are options right now? You might have to wait this out.
Speaker 1: There's too many good old guys I'd like to put
Speaker 1: together a good uh roster though, so maybe next week though, UM,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to best fits for remaining free agents,
Speaker 1: any trains we like. Um, but let's hit the news first.
Speaker 1: All right. We do have to hit this just because
Speaker 1: the timing of it. Again, the Browns masterfully uh setting
Speaker 1: all this stuff up to minimize exposure. So their press
Speaker 1: conference introducing Deshawnoisson is held on Friday. Uh that gives uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the weekend to slow down the story and
Speaker 1: get forgotten by Will Smith smacking the out of Chris
Speaker 1: Rock and other events. Uh. Here was Deshaun Watson at
Speaker 1: the Dais, a dais that did not include the owner, uh,
Speaker 1: the owners of the Browns d and Jimmy Haslum who
Speaker 1: held a zoom meeting later. I mean anyway, d Uh,
Speaker 1: here is Deshaun Watson uh talking about where he's at
Speaker 1: right now and how he feels about this situation with
Speaker 1: the twenty two cases of sexual assault and harassment still
Speaker 1: hanging over his head. I understand the whole circumstances is
Speaker 1: very difficult, especially for the women's side of the fans
Speaker 1: in this community. Um, I'm not naive to that. I
Speaker 1: know these allegations is very very serious. But like I
Speaker 1: was mentioned before, I've never assaulted any woman. I never
Speaker 1: disuspected any woman. I was raised by a single parent
Speaker 1: mom who has two aunties, who's her sister, and that's who.
Speaker 1: That's who raised me. I was raised to be genuine
Speaker 1: ever spent everyone and everything around me. Mark, is it?
Speaker 1: This is where Watson's coming from on this. There's no
Speaker 1: accepting of blame because he is continuing to assert innocence. Um,
Speaker 1: how does it? How does it? How did it come
Speaker 1: off to you? Well, I think you just said it.
Speaker 1: I don't hear from his angle, um really accountability. I
Speaker 1: mean he talked about the fact, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem. I don't have an issue. When they
Speaker 1: talked about counseling, I don't have any regrets. Um, he's
Speaker 1: very he's been very clear. I think on that from
Speaker 1: that angle and from the Browns angle, I think it's
Speaker 1: like I'll say what I've mentioned on our around the
Speaker 1: NFL broadcast. Maybe just come out and say we want
Speaker 1: to win football games. That's why we did this, without
Speaker 1: the song and dance and the rest of it, and
Speaker 1: trying to tell us how much work went into this,
Speaker 1: into their investigation. It just it didn't check out to me,
Speaker 1: um watching it in real time and it doesn't check
Speaker 1: out in hindsight. Yeah, we we talked about it for
Speaker 1: a while. That was That was a exhausting, exhausting week.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's exhausting for a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: within the Browns organization. Exhausting for a lot of women
Speaker 1: and men who have been upset about this. Like I
Speaker 1: can't muster the same fury that I had had on
Speaker 1: on Friday watching it. But it just sort of like
Speaker 1: a darker version of the Falcons press conference was like,
Speaker 1: how dumb do you think your fans are? Um? They
Speaker 1: I don't think they thought the press conference would go
Speaker 1: as poorly as it did. I think they've been in
Speaker 1: their cocoon a little bit, the Agent Watson ownership, believing
Speaker 1: that they're checking a lot of boxes and maybe they
Speaker 1: didn't know was gonna be as antagonistic, like why is
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski even up there that would indicate they thought
Speaker 1: there was gonna be some football questions. There was one.
Speaker 1: And I give the Browns media credit, who don't have
Speaker 1: the same relationships with Watson's agent that the national media does.
Speaker 1: And I'm not singling out anyone in particular. I would
Speaker 1: say every national outlet is part of this. And Mullaghtta,
Speaker 1: I think, has exerted a lot of power in terms
Speaker 1: of silencing and changing the coverage, skewing the coverage in
Speaker 1: a way that the Browns Cleveland media doesn't doesn't care about,
Speaker 1: and they came at him hard. He was shook, Andrew
Speaker 1: Berry was shook. And I think the most honest answer
Speaker 1: the entire UH press conference came from Barry at the
Speaker 1: end when they said are you confident you know that
Speaker 1: Watson didn't do anything? Um that that he didn't do
Speaker 1: anything that would be objectionable, And Barry, notably, i think,
Speaker 1: to his credit, didn't answer that. He's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going there, Like I'll go pretty far here in backing
Speaker 1: up what i think Watson's gonna be moving future, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that this man didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1: And you see kind of what the plan is here.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be uh an expert in the
Speaker 1: legal field that Deshaun Watson. Okay, I dodged criminal charges here,
Speaker 1: so I will not be found guilty in the court
Speaker 1: of law. Now we have all these civil lawsuits. My
Speaker 1: goal here is that they either get dismissed or their
Speaker 1: settlements that it involves confidentiality where that people can't speak
Speaker 1: out so there's nothing that could be said, and those
Speaker 1: quietly go away, and then that all That's how I'm saying,
Speaker 1: either not going to set up, but that's for now
Speaker 1: right all that's gonna be left is him saying I
Speaker 1: didn't do it. You can choose to believe me or not.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna go play football. That is That is
Speaker 1: the goal here for Watson and the Browns is that
Speaker 1: eventually this will go away. And I guess the disappointment
Speaker 1: is you want there to be some ownership to what
Speaker 1: he did. But if he's saying he didn't do it,
Speaker 1: you're kind of from the public standpoint. Um from the
Speaker 1: brown standpoint, you're from public standpoint, what do you do
Speaker 1: you You could say I don't believe him, but if
Speaker 1: he's not going to take accountability. You can't force him to.
Speaker 1: It's just it's an uncomfortable, strange situation. It is and there,
Speaker 1: and you're right, the Browns are banking on the fact
Speaker 1: that the football side of this will quickly take over,
Speaker 1: and that what you know, and as with with all things,
Speaker 1: the story of the day and what we're outraged about, Um,
Speaker 1: we don't have the energy to remain outrage. We know
Speaker 1: the energy to stay necessarily in a corner of thought
Speaker 1: and we'll move on and move on to the football side.
Speaker 1: That's what they're banking on, and looking at how things work,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win that. But people also won't
Speaker 1: forget it either. Now, this was an unforgettable press conference,
Speaker 1: It was an unforgettable transaction. Nothing like it has really
Speaker 1: ever happened in the history of the NFL. And even
Speaker 1: if yes, you're selling tickets and you're selling sponsorships still
Speaker 1: and the Browns retain their fan base, it's it's I
Speaker 1: don't think it's something that's gonna be forgotten. And I
Speaker 1: think that's partly just because of the timing of it all.
Speaker 1: And I think they pushed through the timing on this,
Speaker 1: and this is where the media part I think plays
Speaker 1: a factor if the media was tougher on it throughout.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have happened right now
Speaker 1: in this window to maximize his earnings. Uh like it
Speaker 1: like they did to maximize him being on the team
Speaker 1: in the offseason, to maximize his options. Frankly, that he
Speaker 1: could do it in this week. So I think they
Speaker 1: are ultimately, whether they realize that or not, take gonna
Speaker 1: take more heat. And it was a more uncomfortable process
Speaker 1: because it because so much is still uncertain in terms
Speaker 1: of the civil cases and in terms of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Because they did it now, because they pushed it now
Speaker 1: to get the most money and the most leverage possible.
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna end up not really doing
Speaker 1: him a great service. I think if it had gone
Speaker 1: through a more normal process, it wouldn't have been as active.
Speaker 1: I would just say this. I I agree when you
Speaker 1: say that people aren't going to forget. But the way
Speaker 1: that we treat all of this stuff with sports and
Speaker 1: with other things is like the league is littered with
Speaker 1: people that did um stuff that we don't think is great,
Speaker 1: we don't accept on any level, and we we move
Speaker 1: on from it like we just do and the brown
Speaker 1: And speaking of Peter King read in his column today
Speaker 1: they had he had some listeners their lifelong Browns fans
Speaker 1: writing in saying how disillusioned and upset, how they can't
Speaker 1: root for the team in the same way anymore. Mark,
Speaker 1: You've been on record on this podcast that you are
Speaker 1: also disillusioned and don't feel like you could root for
Speaker 1: the team in the way that you did growing up. Um.
Speaker 1: But the Browns are banking on challenging you and everyone
Speaker 1: and every other Browns fan that. And we're twelve and
Speaker 1: five a year from now or two years from now,
Speaker 1: and we have a first round by or we are
Speaker 1: you know, one game away from the super Bowl, you're
Speaker 1: still gonna be out, or you're gonna kind of forget
Speaker 1: about this and let time take care of it. It's
Speaker 1: it's dirty business. But I think that's what they're banking on,
Speaker 1: that we're taking the hit now to know that tomorrow
Speaker 1: people will move on. UM. In other news, since we're here, UM,
Speaker 1: real quick on Baker Mayfield, who still ten days after
Speaker 1: this trade for Deshaun Watson is still a member of
Speaker 1: the team. Kevin Stefanski said at the league meeting today,
Speaker 1: I think everyone understands the situation and we're hoping that
Speaker 1: it is resolved soon. Jake Brisket is on that team.
Speaker 1: Watson is either gonna play all the games or some
Speaker 1: of the games. Uh next season. Uh So we're still
Speaker 1: waiting for that other shoot to drop. Just a matter
Speaker 1: of like where is the fit for what for Baker.
Speaker 1: But still I thought it was interesting. Joe thomas Um
Speaker 1: had a point that he except Baker overplayed his hand
Speaker 1: with the statement with the trade demand, kind of valuing
Speaker 1: himself as a franchise quarterback that could dictate where he
Speaker 1: goes next, and now he finds himself in this kind
Speaker 1: of purgatory. I mean, we're about to talk about another
Speaker 1: quarterback that overplayed his hand a bit, but Baker absolutely did.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is he's an emotional being and it
Speaker 1: cost him in this situation. I mean, at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's so clear the Browns were moving on and they
Speaker 1: really he has no value right now, like you just
Speaker 1: had the team, teams aren't going especially with the draft
Speaker 1: coming up. It's like Baker Mayfield has no real landing
Speaker 1: spot at the moment. I think Seattle can be it.
Speaker 1: I don't buy that they need to You know, give
Speaker 1: give up a pick to get rid of Baker. His
Speaker 1: contracts not bad. It's nineteen million dollars. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: be starting games, that will be one of the lowest
Speaker 1: guys with as much experience that he has. I think
Speaker 1: it's just gonna drag out until the draft. Seattle makes sense,
Speaker 1: he send a fourth round pick. The Browns aren't in
Speaker 1: a huge hurry. He's not. You can never get on
Speaker 1: the field. Again, I don't need to hear about this.
Speaker 1: This talk is like, well, maybe they would carry him,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, but they have plenty of cap space.
Speaker 1: They have plenty of cap space even with Baker. They
Speaker 1: have the number two, uh most amount of cap space
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. So you wait until the draft,
Speaker 1: you get a fourth round pick for him. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where else he would possibly go, and so Seattle
Speaker 1: kind of knows that. And I think Seattle is where
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, he just seems like the biggest
Speaker 1: loser of this um period of league calendar, because not
Speaker 1: only do he lose his job and it's been a
Speaker 1: humbling thing. He wanted to go to the Cults, Cault
Speaker 1: say no thanks. Now you're hearing the reports connecting Jarvis
Speaker 1: Landry and O'Dell back to Cleveland. It's like, it's a
Speaker 1: tough time to be Baker Mayfield, to be Panthers don't
Speaker 1: even want him. It'll be interesting to see how he
Speaker 1: comes out of this, uh, because it's obviously I would
Speaker 1: think been very humbling. And Kyler Murray, yes, he has
Speaker 1: been the subject of speculation, another former number one overall
Speaker 1: pick who is potentially at odds with his team. He
Speaker 1: doesn't say so. Um and A he was at a
Speaker 1: charity event and said, I'm an Arizona Cardinal. And he
Speaker 1: also just something we obviously were laser focused on, which
Speaker 1: was scrubbing his social media any and all Cardinals content,
Speaker 1: usually a sign of discontent. I want out, But Kyle says, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I would never do that. No. That was like if
Speaker 1: you're a kid my age. So it wasn't nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the Corners kids my age. It's just a thing.
Speaker 1: It sounds like something my son would say, my seven
Speaker 1: year old. He's um, he's being agist, you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's representing the young people in just saying we're a
Speaker 1: bunch of olds that don't understand. I mean, Ricky as
Speaker 1: the resident person who uh, you know, it's so close
Speaker 1: to being in their twenties but no longer, just on
Speaker 1: the outside looking in like that, does that like hold water?
Speaker 1: Because his whole thing of like, well I I brought
Speaker 1: it down to two. We do that all the time.
Speaker 1: Well then he re added everything again a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks later, right, Yeah, no, it totally, it totally is
Speaker 1: something for him to brush it off like that's nothing.
Speaker 1: We're looking. You know, Mark tweeted last night like he's
Speaker 1: in a dark dark wood or something. And then we
Speaker 1: look at his profile. Yeah again, and we look at
Speaker 1: his profile and everything a t N related has been scrubbed.
Speaker 1: We'd be like, hey, what's going on here? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It means, why are you in a
Speaker 1: dark wood? I don't know. Hey, just and Ricky, just
Speaker 1: a heads up, Um, early spring is a time for
Speaker 1: darkness and beauty. A few hours before that, or maybe
Speaker 1: a day before that, I'm not sure everything becoming a
Speaker 1: dark dream. I don't think it speaks for itself. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's watching a press conference. I think you know an
Speaker 1: industry parlance. By the way we watched what would be sad?
Speaker 1: You would uh, you would be labeled as being on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly exactly, don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't view you that way, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we know Greg Stance, but he's getting old,
Speaker 1: he's getting old, cranky, you know it just it is
Speaker 1: what it is, getting cranky kyler thing. Though it does
Speaker 1: seem like he's calmed down a little bit. I do
Speaker 1: think you can take out of these these comments and
Speaker 1: the like they put out. That statement was more significant
Speaker 1: to me than the Twitter scrubbing and the statement I
Speaker 1: read as pay me and if you don't pay me,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to practice. And I still think that
Speaker 1: might be his vantage point. But I think the emotions
Speaker 1: of how the season ended up, he realizes he's going
Speaker 1: to be there. I think he probably legitimately wants to
Speaker 1: be there as long as they pay him. But that's
Speaker 1: a big that's a big, but that's a big I
Speaker 1: think Mark's right too. Like some of the options that
Speaker 1: are apptizing of dried I it's like, oh, you want
Speaker 1: to get traded and you want to go play for
Speaker 1: Matt Rule before he gets fired in Carolina? Like is
Speaker 1: that better than where you are now? Suddenly Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: who steps into line. It's like, because you have no
Speaker 1: other options, my friend, maybe yeah, maybe Seattle is an
Speaker 1: open door. But also they just traded their guy and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's one thing like for the Browns that
Speaker 1: if they considered trading Baker in the division, that feels
Speaker 1: a little more drew bledsoe to the Bills, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: try to beat us with with with him. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone they're not keeping Kyler in the division no
Speaker 1: matter what. Although we shouldn't be so sure because there's
Speaker 1: been literally a dozen mega trades right nothing, nothing from
Speaker 1: the past has any tangible meaning anymore. Big news for
Speaker 1: Bills fans um on the same day that NFL owners
Speaker 1: unanimously approved this is the owners meetings are going on.
Speaker 1: We mentioned on the the show it's happening right now. Over
Speaker 1: there hadn't mentioned it. We used to, We used to
Speaker 1: go get some fun interviews. Maybe we'll go back next year.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out this year. But also it feels
Speaker 1: like this is the calm after the storm this year,
Speaker 1: where you know, maybe if things worked well, there wasn't
Speaker 1: even a whisper about sending us this time after we
Speaker 1: had done there were whisperdemic, and well, I'm not I
Speaker 1: guess I'm not paying attention to the whispers, but I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a rallying cry for us to to go
Speaker 1: this time. I'm happy to be here, Frank, it's nice.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be with you guys here in Los Angeles. Well,
Speaker 1: you got to go to Disney Disneyland instead, you would
Speaker 1: have been, you know, walking around a bunch of GM's.
Speaker 1: Forget that. So on the same day that the NFL
Speaker 1: owners unanimously approved the Bill's proposal for a new stadium
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park, the Bills officially reached agreement with the
Speaker 1: state and Erie County on a new one point four
Speaker 1: billion dollars stadium. The agreement is for a thirty year
Speaker 1: lease on the stadium. It's set to begin that lease
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the Bills will contribute five hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million to match a combined eight hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million in public funding six hundred million from New
Speaker 1: York State, Erie County to fifty million. So that shows
Speaker 1: you a lot of things. Some of that, I feel
Speaker 1: like it used to be a situation where teams could
Speaker 1: hold cities and regions hostage, say pay for our stadium. Uh.
Speaker 1: In this case, there's a split of this. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is viewed as something that's fiscally responsible regionally,
Speaker 1: but I do know the bills are a major part
Speaker 1: of that community. So maybe it makes sense that everybody
Speaker 1: worked together to get a great facility built here. You
Speaker 1: remember when we started at the NFL, there was that
Speaker 1: period where the the Vikings and you know, Minnesota taxpayers
Speaker 1: UM went through a living hell to try to get
Speaker 1: that stadium done. This there's just a really special relationship
Speaker 1: between Buffalo UM. It's football team and now it's taxpayers
Speaker 1: as well. UHM. I the want for me the whole
Speaker 1: money thing great. I'm glad that they're not leaving town.
Speaker 1: First of all, that would be a travesty, but second
Speaker 1: that they didn't go down the road which would have
Speaker 1: annoyed me by going Dome Stadium where you can make
Speaker 1: it multipurpose to do. But it's outdoors. It's going to
Speaker 1: be outdoors in that Buffalo winter from now until the
Speaker 1: end of time. Yeah, they're that part makes sense. Them
Speaker 1: staying in Buffalo gotta happen. I Uh, it's also not
Speaker 1: totally done at least some of the state share needs
Speaker 1: to pass a budget. But it doesn't sound like, uh,
Speaker 1: there's lawmakers that are looking that have shown any signs
Speaker 1: up there to Western New York to be boots on
Speaker 1: the ground that said, it's the most public money ever
Speaker 1: spent spent spent on a stadium at a time when like,
Speaker 1: you know, public schools are you know, struggling, and it
Speaker 1: seems ridiculous for the richest league and the richest billionaires
Speaker 1: and these you know, these teams that are worth billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to need to get taxpayers to pay almost
Speaker 1: a billion dollars in the year two So why it
Speaker 1: hasn't happened in many other places for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's like, miss me with that when you're like cutting
Speaker 1: like all arts and like Jim funding in bad football
Speaker 1: is family. Everything you're saying makes sense. It feels like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they got it. They got done. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: work in most places, but they got it. It's a
Speaker 1: nice logical way to look at the Gregg. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, um and I don't want to get we
Speaker 1: don't this is not an episode of money on money.
Speaker 1: I wish he was here to break it down I
Speaker 1: do imagine having the stadium is going to bring a
Speaker 1: lot of revenue into the region for decades to come.
Speaker 1: So maybe there's a conversation there. I will say this
Speaker 1: that the Sophi Stadium across the street from us UH
Speaker 1: fully funded privately. UH in Vegas though that that region
Speaker 1: they contributed seven fifty millions. So I guess you don't
Speaker 1: become billionaires by being a nice guy or a girl. Greg.
Speaker 1: Would you rather, though, you can do it by like
Speaker 1: making people you know that aren't as fortunate. Are you
Speaker 1: saying are not nice? Greg? I'm saying, like you could
Speaker 1: afford to build the stadium or sell the team. Greg,
Speaker 1: let's say you have a choice to make. In all
Speaker 1: of society would know that you made this choice. We
Speaker 1: have music and a second music class added to elementary
Speaker 1: schools in western New York, but the bills moved to
Speaker 1: San Antonio. I mean that's a it's a false dichotomy there, No,
Speaker 1: it's technic. I think I promise we can find many
Speaker 1: billionaires to to build. I just think you're putting us
Speaker 1: in a tough spot, um or putting me in a
Speaker 1: tough spot. I'll just say Greg supports schools. It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you tsk task for taking any
Speaker 1: of the public's money. I think everybody wins here ultimately, right,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna spend money on stuff, the bills are
Speaker 1: something I'm worth now, I'm sort of over that, like
Speaker 1: giving these people like who but that it's not like
Speaker 1: to get public support like most people. They're obviously like
Speaker 1: the fans are happy. I'm just saying they could afford it.
Speaker 1: They're just they're just put it on people who can't.
Speaker 1: Is this our last show? I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: this would not. This would not also be a lame
Speaker 1: way to end the show. A bunch of people that
Speaker 1: don't know anything about financial business worrying over it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm happy the bills are staying in Buffalo. How about that?
Speaker 1: Of course, can't we agree on that. I said that
Speaker 1: my mind goes no deeper on the topic. But those
Speaker 1: music classes that are have been cut as a result
Speaker 1: of this, that is tried a guy, agree, don't be
Speaker 1: a dirk. It's the tell tale sign is when the
Speaker 1: first thing the governor said was like the hard working
Speaker 1: men and women of Western New York. Whenever you break
Speaker 1: out the hard working men and women, you know that
Speaker 1: their phony be like that was the first thing that
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson put out to like, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get it in front of the hard working men, like
Speaker 1: what there's not hard working men everywhere? Hard worket like
Speaker 1: shut up and politician not authentic and also everyone out
Speaker 1: there that's gonna be like Greg was right, Dan was
Speaker 1: wrong in this miss me with educating me on how
Speaker 1: public funding. I don't I don't care. Dan and Mark,
Speaker 1: maybe you should take a wider, broader view of the
Speaker 1: topic the way that Greg did. I mean, I Greg,
Speaker 1: I generally agree with what you're saying, but I just
Speaker 1: you know, an ideal scenario. I'm totally with you, it
Speaker 1: would be good. That's on how it played out. The
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions will be the feature team in training camp
Speaker 1: version of Hard Knocks, according to an announcement made Monday
Speaker 1: by HBO and NFL films Hit Me with It, Ricky Alright.
Speaker 1: The Lines were one of only three teams that could
Speaker 1: not turn down an invitation from the acclaimed sports documentary
Speaker 1: series follows NFL teams throughout training camp. Panthers and the
Speaker 1: Jets were also in line. But guess what the Lines
Speaker 1: are good? Pick Greggy why Because Dan Campbell's involved. That's
Speaker 1: a perfect Hard Knocks personality. The Lions another team with
Speaker 1: a great friend fan base, downtrodden looking to rise up.
Speaker 1: I think this will be good. I think it'll be amazing.
Speaker 1: I think his staff is great. It's not just him,
Speaker 1: it's a good group of coaches under them and I
Speaker 1: and I want a team that I want to root for,
Speaker 1: and I feel like they're a team that a lot
Speaker 1: of people can root for. Rachel Bonetta, our our colleague,
Speaker 1: was searching for a new team Browns fan. She's kind
Speaker 1: of putting that out there on her podcast bench with
Speaker 1: and I was, I think the Lions. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Go from the Browns of the Lions be there on
Speaker 1: the ground floor. It feels fresh because, you know, I
Speaker 1: get annoyed when like when it was the Cowboys. Everyone
Speaker 1: likes the Cowboys, and I understand why. It's a huge,
Speaker 1: you know, way to go with Hard Knocks, But I
Speaker 1: want to learn about teams I don't know as much about,
Speaker 1: and there's this is this is a completely different situation.
Speaker 1: I think the Campbell and the whole rest of the
Speaker 1: crew will make it um. I'm more interested in this
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks than like the last four or five in
Speaker 1: a row. Well plus Jared Goff on Hard Knocks for
Speaker 1: a third time. Let's see if he knows where the
Speaker 1: sun rises? Fourth, if you include all or nothing as
Speaker 1: like an NFL properly a lot of golf? Like does
Speaker 1: he does he still have the golf thing? You know
Speaker 1: where he hits the golf? Well, that was to live there.
Speaker 1: I don't know his California ready, I will. Let's say
Speaker 1: that Kevin Patra, who we're a big fan of. He's
Speaker 1: been on the show many times. He's a grinder on
Speaker 1: the round. The NFL Blogs is still a blog, the
Speaker 1: news arm of NFL dot com. Patrick is leading the
Speaker 1: way over there. He wrote the things to watch for
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks so Land this morning, and I'm thinking to myself, now,
Speaker 1: I've been the Hard Knocks writer for a decade on
Speaker 1: this website. Maybe it's Patrick's time, maybe starting with the Lions.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't he be a good person to write about this?
Speaker 1: I think he'd be great. But so that that article
Speaker 1: happened without you being consulted, I think they're already telling
Speaker 1: you might be time. Maybe maybe it's out of my
Speaker 1: hands entirely. We'll find out anyway. Let's take a break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. Time now for news and
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Speaker 1: dot com. All Right. On Sunday, Giant CEO John Marris
Speaker 1: said the team is not quote actively shopping Sae Kwon Barkley. Uh.
Speaker 1: They have this running back that they drafted number two
Speaker 1: overall back in injuries of really sidetracked his career, and
Speaker 1: the Giant it's obviously greg Or not a team that's
Speaker 1: close to contention, So why would you have Barkley around?
Speaker 1: They would They would trade him in a second if
Speaker 1: they can, if they could, right, Yeah, I think if
Speaker 1: they got the right offer. But maybe we've learned this
Speaker 1: offseason that they're not just going to give him up
Speaker 1: for a sixth round pick, like you might as well
Speaker 1: just keep him. This was the time of year I
Speaker 1: remember at the owners meeting when the O B J
Speaker 1: from the Giants to elsewhere, which turned out to be Cleveland,
Speaker 1: started popping up. So this is a time of year
Speaker 1: where you you do see some lower level trades. He
Speaker 1: also mentioned James Or There was a report rather from
Speaker 1: ESPN teams James Bradberry will be traded, like they've kind
Speaker 1: of made it clear to him and they're just hoping,
Speaker 1: I think, to get a better offer around draft time.
Speaker 1: But it sounded like with Barkley they might realize they're
Speaker 1: not really getting much, so you might as well keep him.
Speaker 1: But it's just a classic. You know, Dave Gettlman had
Speaker 1: his guys, new GM, new coach. These aren't our guys,
Speaker 1: and and they're clearing capram and you know they have
Speaker 1: twenty there's a twenty one million dollar cap hit on
Speaker 1: James Bradberry. He was a good player, he was a
Speaker 1: Gettleman guy, but they can save it by moving them on.
Speaker 1: So it's like, even though he's a good player, it's
Speaker 1: like new like they're cleaning the books up and things
Speaker 1: good change with bark Quan too. I feel like whether
Speaker 1: it would be in August, I have a sneak draft weekend,
Speaker 1: I think he could still get I have a sneaking
Speaker 1: just a feeling that that sequon Barkley is not going
Speaker 1: to be a giant and weak one and I'm not
Speaker 1: totally doubting his ability to be a high level running
Speaker 1: back again. I know he looked the steps slow last year.
Speaker 1: But it's been a tough couple of years. Maybe you
Speaker 1: never come back. Maybe it's a Todd Gurley type situation.
Speaker 1: But I would like to see him in a healthier
Speaker 1: situation with the better offensive line and better quarterback player.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see it though. That was News
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Speaker 1: other news, the Chiefs are It's life after Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: About that. Yeah, we missed you for that. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was a bummer. You know, I thought i'd be in
Speaker 1: the clear for Blockbuster raising. Sure enough, one of the
Speaker 1: great playmakers of his generation gets moved in a Blockbuster deal.
Speaker 1: You have to read Jigger power ranking. While at Disneyland,
Speaker 1: I was online for It's a Small World, and I'm
Speaker 1: cranking out a copy for the Dolphins and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and the biggest of all spots. It's awful some vacation anyway.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are scrambling. They won't say they're scrambling, say
Speaker 1: it's all part of the plan. They made a decision.
Speaker 1: So they've signed Marquez Valdes Scantling formerly the Packers three
Speaker 1: years thirty million. Well, these white Outs are getting eighteen
Speaker 1: million comes in the first two years, so that's real money.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that money. That seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: money for Scantling after you decided you wouldn't pay reach
Speaker 1: the price point for Tyreek Hill. Uh. They also come
Speaker 1: to terms with former first round pick of the Bucks,
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones on a deal. So the offense obviously gonna
Speaker 1: look different Mark without Tyreek killing. You just wonder what
Speaker 1: moves could be next for them. I mean, the money
Speaker 1: is telling me that their bang keen on MVS and
Speaker 1: his speed playing that Hyreek Hill role and along with
Speaker 1: a combination of other people, because you've got to somehow
Speaker 1: find a way. It's not only replaced the numbers, which
Speaker 1: were a hundred and eleven catches last year for plus
Speaker 1: yards and nine touchdowns, but the type of player that
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill was, and if you go watch MVS, I
Speaker 1: mean he does have that speed. Next Gen Stats records
Speaker 1: him as the only player that topped Tyreek Hills speed
Speaker 1: over the last two seasons, and it happened on one play.
Speaker 1: But there were a couple of um deep shots last
Speaker 1: year where he worked really well with Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: you just trust that Patrick Mahomes will make any wide
Speaker 1: receiver better than be in almost any other offense except
Speaker 1: maybe Green Bay, right. I I think that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: wanted to shake things up, that at least that was
Speaker 1: part of the equation. Like Andy Reid has been doing
Speaker 1: this a long time, Patrick Mahomes obviously they've they've been
Speaker 1: together now a while. This group was together a while,
Speaker 1: and not that like Andy Reid needs new inspiration, but
Speaker 1: he need He knew things had to change. They kind
Speaker 1: of were running back the same offense and it was
Speaker 1: too diminishing returns. Nate Tyson, who we like on the show,
Speaker 1: we've had had an interesting Twitter thread about he thinks
Speaker 1: they're going to change what they do in terms of
Speaker 1: their concepts not but not like being basic, but more
Speaker 1: drop back passing, less rpo um, some wide receivers who
Speaker 1: can block in juju and mvs and just like changing
Speaker 1: it up, because I I think you do poorly when
Speaker 1: you doubt Andy Reid's ability to reinvent himself. He always
Speaker 1: finds a way to maximize players and and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was a personal thing. Once Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: started really wanting that Davante Adams money that they were
Speaker 1: just like, maybe maybe now is the time because they
Speaker 1: were willing to pay him. But I think there's something
Speaker 1: that they were just like, okay, nothing personal, but it's
Speaker 1: just like ready for a change. Let's let's see, like
Speaker 1: let's see everyone doubt us without Tyree, but not to
Speaker 1: say that what they were doing wasn't working. It's like,
Speaker 1: I get it, and that's you have to do that stuff.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Davante Adams got envous this job because
Speaker 1: that triggered the Hill contract that want to deal with
Speaker 1: and now MVS is his his replacement. He got Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill moved to the Dolphins into right, you know, It's
Speaker 1: just it's all connected, And yeah, I guess I do
Speaker 1: trust their team building ability to they did feel like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and not just saying well, it's kind of
Speaker 1: tough to say. Again a so strange way their season
Speaker 1: ended because they were completely unstoppable against the Bills, completely
Speaker 1: unstoppable for the better part of two quarters in the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game, and then it all went to hell.
Speaker 1: But if you want to look at the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: the last two years, they haven't been quite the same
Speaker 1: as they were during those early peak Mahomes years. Uh so,
Speaker 1: maybe it is time to shake up bringing some new players.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys, We'll see, but you're still giving
Speaker 1: up again. Tyreek Hill not gonna be labor this because
Speaker 1: you guys hit it last week. That is one of
Speaker 1: the great playmakers in the last thirty years in the
Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver. It's like a Hall of Fame level stud. Anyway,
Speaker 1: maybe it works out. Moving on, the Eagles doing some
Speaker 1: business here, Kaisier White, the linebacker, signs a one year,
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal after a breakoute with the Chargers. Also,
Speaker 1: the Eagles resigned Derk Barnett to a two year contract. Um.
Speaker 1: He is not a guy that puts up mots and numbers,
Speaker 1: but he fills a role for them. And I just
Speaker 1: want to do one quick correction. Ronald Jones was a
Speaker 1: second round back, not a first rounder. You more a
Speaker 1: perfectionist and a showman. I could totally see Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: like he will have one primetime game where he has
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixteen yards including a seventy yard touchdown,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like and near he had did it again
Speaker 1: and like a ton But he'll do it at least once.
Speaker 1: I I love the Kaisier White movie. He was just
Speaker 1: one of my favorite free agent linebackers. I think he
Speaker 1: was one of Brandon Stanley's favorite players. He was quoted
Speaker 1: Monday saying like this is the first time where the
Speaker 1: business of the NFL and the personal side of it
Speaker 1: really hurts, because this was a guy like I really
Speaker 1: loved his development, loved what he did for us, but
Speaker 1: it just didn't make sense, uh, for for them anymore.
Speaker 1: Which you know, I would feel bad if I was
Speaker 1: Brian Bulaga or someone else that they like cut this
Speaker 1: off seasons, like, oh, this is the first time. I
Speaker 1: guess you were just totally cool firing me. Had a
Speaker 1: great season last year, and I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: Eagles probably could still draft a linebacker. It's a definite
Speaker 1: need for them, but they're getting him at age twenty six.
Speaker 1: He's a great coverage linebacker, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: great signing for them. Good back to you, Dan, good
Speaker 1: input Mark in broadcasting news. Now I met the NFL
Speaker 1: on Fox. You can put that in post. I like this.
Speaker 1: I like this makes it makes you think a Fox
Speaker 1: for sure. I was looking for NFL on Fox. But
Speaker 1: the whole oscars, you know it all it all ties
Speaker 1: in all right, we'll figure it out in post. Here
Speaker 1: we go. We know the game of musical chairs that's
Speaker 1: been going on both in the NFL but also in
Speaker 1: the broadcasting ranks. And Fox how to make a move
Speaker 1: after they lost both Troy Aikman and Joe Buck to
Speaker 1: various enterprises, so they make a move. Next man up,
Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhardt, the number the number two NFL played by
Speaker 1: play announcer at Fox last season, is the successor to
Speaker 1: Joe Buck. According to our man Andrew Marshaun, who is
Speaker 1: killing it well, it's got a lot of material to
Speaker 1: work with this every time there is he's been on
Speaker 1: the forefront, right, and I totally connot who is Let's say, look,
Speaker 1: look you got Schefter and Wrath report and they're always
Speaker 1: going at it. Right with Marsian, It's just like it's
Speaker 1: Marcion or Marsian. He owns that corner and he does
Speaker 1: an excellent job, and he's he went to the same
Speaker 1: college that I went to for about six months at
Speaker 1: the college and and fair in his uh of college
Speaker 1: student in the last thirty years went to a college
Speaker 1: that you went to because you went to so many
Speaker 1: I kept transferring over and over to the high annoyance
Speaker 1: of my family. They keep dripping out this news though.
Speaker 1: It's like, we don't know who is playback play guy.
Speaker 1: I mean his college. I think Olson Scott's probably the
Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse, but maybe there's different people angling.
Speaker 1: You know. Supposedly they tried to approached Tom Brady uh
Speaker 1: for that job, but he wasn't interested a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago. I wonder why I'm not annoyed though, to
Speaker 1: be honest, because I think we all agree Burkhardt is awesome,
Speaker 1: and we during Corona times, we interviewed him, um in
Speaker 1: our remote locations and and I, you know, I was
Speaker 1: very excited to ask a question of him, and my
Speaker 1: sound was not what was was not worth Remember that
Speaker 1: I couldn't speak the entire time. We'll have to have him,
Speaker 1: LL have to have him back. I'll have him back
Speaker 1: on my own show speaking to Marshawn. So after the
Speaker 1: Will Smith Chris Rock incident last night, UM, I did
Speaker 1: something that I haven't done since. Like Howard Stern was
Speaker 1: on the channel. I flipped on E and I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta check out the post game coverage to this,
Speaker 1: like we gotta I need more info about this situation.
Speaker 1: And it's because these three people I've never seen before,
Speaker 1: not surprising, and they're talking about like Beyonce's dress from
Speaker 1: the opening song, and I'm like, whoa, whoa. So I
Speaker 1: I tweeted like I needed Andrew marshawn takedown of ease coverage,
Speaker 1: and he quote retweeted, I turned it off pretty quick.
Speaker 1: Gotta rip up the rundown. They were off to other topics.
Speaker 1: You gotta rip up the run day. You gotta just
Speaker 1: be flowing. I saw this thing where they, you know,
Speaker 1: asked all the media present not to ask anything about it, like,
Speaker 1: for instance, Quest Love was up there. He he accepted
Speaker 1: the award right after Chris Rock and and it is
Speaker 1: unfortunate like that, you know a lot of people. It
Speaker 1: was unfortunate for them, and how it overshadow that said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, put Mary Kay Cabot or Tony Grozi in
Speaker 1: that room that Brown's meet. They're asking the question. I
Speaker 1: don't care ask I don't care what. I don't care
Speaker 1: what they say. Before it starts, you gotta ask, like
Speaker 1: and you can ask you in an empathetic way. So,
Speaker 1: but that's what you need to hear about. Well, The
Speaker 1: Oscars have been a raging snooze fest for um a
Speaker 1: long long time time, and I grew up loving that.
Speaker 1: It was my favorite things to watch. It's just been
Speaker 1: a mess. They are back front and center more than
Speaker 1: they've ever been. How are you not taking that run
Speaker 1: down and throw it in into a fire, like, who
Speaker 1: is the big time reporter over there? Idea? I know
Speaker 1: we lost Joan Rivers. Sometimes you can't really replace Joan
Speaker 1: Rivers or you know, Ricky. I mean he's been there, Seacrest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still there there. Let's imagine
Speaker 1: Seacrest is the guy there. Him and Kelly have a
Speaker 1: morning show that they were talking about it this morning,
Speaker 1: I think. But that's that's okay, that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: the next day. We're all chopping it up, you know,
Speaker 1: around the coffee table. No, but when you are, you're
Speaker 1: in the you're in the you know, the heat right
Speaker 1: there postgame show. He needs somebody, a Seacrest type to
Speaker 1: ask the hard questions that people want to know. That's
Speaker 1: your job as a journal It's a shameful effort by Eve.
Speaker 1: I've been in I was in that room once in
Speaker 1: the Emmy's because I was an NBC page and take
Speaker 1: us through it now had a lot of hard hitting questions.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of hard hitting questions to Deborah Messing
Speaker 1: after victorious, uh you know her winning for will and grace,
Speaker 1: Not a lot of hard questions. Remember that guy Ross
Speaker 1: that did like Jay Leno show. I think he went
Speaker 1: to E like maybe Ross whatever his name is, He's
Speaker 1: asking the questions this is before your time, before time America.
Speaker 1: I actually do I know who is talking about? That
Speaker 1: was also well, I was a page. It was in
Speaker 1: that era, Ross little did we know that Greg the page?
Speaker 1: Would you know? Years later deliver powerful speech on the
Speaker 1: music classes in Western New York. Very funny quick story
Speaker 1: Emma worked for. Her first job was a p A
Speaker 1: on E and there was like a mysterious cardboard box
Speaker 1: outside on the street and they made her go check.
Speaker 1: Emma so little and like innocent, and they were like, hey, you, like,
Speaker 1: can you go check that cardboard? That is an absurd task, dangerous.
Speaker 1: No one will miss you if you're gone. Ross the
Speaker 1: intern his name was Ross Matthews. I mean Matthews has
Speaker 1: got to be in there. He's got to be in
Speaker 1: the fire. His asses in the Fryer and that's part
Speaker 1: of the gig. Wait, hold on, Erica, what was in
Speaker 1: the box? She said, it was just like nothing like
Speaker 1: homeless clothes or act cloth. Was an alarm clock with wires. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like raining, and she crossed the street to look.
Speaker 1: Finally in the news. Let's compliant. Let's head to the
Speaker 1: Kicker Club as we like to do it. It's a
Speaker 1: rainy day in Los Angeles. But guess what people stand
Speaker 1: in the rain to get in through the velvet ropes.
Speaker 1: And Greg's rline has a job. Greg the Leg, as
Speaker 1: he's known with the New York Jets. He signs with
Speaker 1: Gang Green the Jeff previously retained pre agent Eddie pinero U.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a kicking competition. It wasn't Greg
Speaker 1: the Leg. I don't know. We'll see narrable season last year.
Speaker 1: Do you remember me telling you was gonna cost the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at some point in the dramatic way. Well, it
Speaker 1: was like weeks later than Jerry Jones acknowledged, like, we
Speaker 1: have to change the way that we're operating on offense
Speaker 1: because Greg the Leg has a leg that's not getting
Speaker 1: us there. But he did back he is coming off
Speaker 1: back surgery last year. So she just put a lot
Speaker 1: at Greg zero Lin's feet for the failure of the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: six extra points and them just he was a mess
Speaker 1: last year for the game Boys. He was a mess. Um.
Speaker 1: Yeah the Jets. Uh, I feel like the Jets have
Speaker 1: had some Swington miss this here not zero line, but
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, how did the whole Tyreek Hill report? Um,
Speaker 1: it's nice to be back in the Kicker club, but
Speaker 1: it is. Hey, listen, he's a former first team All Pro.
Speaker 1: But you know who I'd rather have somebody we had
Speaker 1: like a decade ago, Nick Folk. I was just still
Speaker 1: at the Folk hero, right, I mean at this point
Speaker 1: Nick Folk is absolutely the Patriots biggest offseeing off season
Speaker 1: signing and probably one of their best players. Thing that's
Speaker 1: a little bit troubling too. Did you did you see
Speaker 1: Bellichick by the way talking about how great it is
Speaker 1: that Joe Judge and his new offensive genius, Uh, Patricia
Speaker 1: are ready to rock this year. I do like that
Speaker 1: everyone now is making jokes about the Patriots offensive staff.
Speaker 1: It's down to two people. It's just Patricia and Judge.
Speaker 1: It's and there is something kind of it's putting them
Speaker 1: in a spot where they're they're being doubted. Let's hear
Speaker 1: from Bill. We've had a lot of coaches take multiple responsibilities.
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about that. I think a good
Speaker 1: coach is a good coach, and that's a great coach.
Speaker 1: Joe is a great coach. Bill help us no matter
Speaker 1: what position that coach. But can you wait? He sounds
Speaker 1: like a little bit like Philip Seymour Hoffman. There can
Speaker 1: you hear the top of that? Again, We've had a
Speaker 1: lot of coaches take multiple right, don't take a good coach?
Speaker 1: Can you come outside? But I absolutely believe Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: from that statement is, Uh, he's not worried about it.
Speaker 1: I think he is at the point of his career.
Speaker 1: He is not worried. He cares, but he's not worried
Speaker 1: about Think Patricia though, It's like, but I'm doing like
Speaker 1: eight times more work for the same amount of money
Speaker 1: as if you had gotten a bunch of other you know,
Speaker 1: ham and Eggers. I could pass off assignments on now
Speaker 1: I have to do. I think he should be Patricia
Speaker 1: should be happy. I was gonna say, what would Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia be doing if Bill Belichick wasn't around. He'd probably
Speaker 1: be an offensive or defensive line coach like in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: right now, right right, But he's doing way. I'm just
Speaker 1: focusing on the fact that he says do a lot
Speaker 1: more work. That seems um he would. I would be
Speaker 1: agitated if I were him. M. That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. Do you have a little developing that's just
Speaker 1: the check. Um, he's also had a gun going here.
Speaker 1: The league didn't update and announced changes to the Rooney rule.
Speaker 1: First of all, they're they're keeping it. There was some
Speaker 1: taco getting rid of it. No, they're strengthening in it.
Speaker 1: They're now requiring a dive verse hire to be an
Speaker 1: offensive assistant coach, which with each team, so either a
Speaker 1: minority or a woman would also qualify. So they are
Speaker 1: expanding it. And they're also saying, uh, women will be
Speaker 1: added to every requirement of the Rooney rules. Good. Obviously
Speaker 1: it needs to be uh continue to be. That rule
Speaker 1: has to evolve and and get I guess better. It
Speaker 1: needs to work better than it has so, especially offensive
Speaker 1: coaches like that's there's not a lot of like offensive coordinate.
Speaker 1: It can't be zoom interviews for any of these interesting
Speaker 1: and They also said interviewing two women for head coach
Speaker 1: would satisfy the Rooney rule because just trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how that I'll mixes it if you're curious, so
Speaker 1: that eliminating. That's a very sentiment and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I guess it says, so you're not checking a box
Speaker 1: with a video conversation. But if you're still not serious
Speaker 1: about hiring candidate and you you are checking box, now
Speaker 1: you're making that at it. Get on a plane, checking
Speaker 1: at a hotel, go through the whole process, at least
Speaker 1: with the zoom like you weren't. Don't insult me by
Speaker 1: like making me uproot my life. Here's what I think
Speaker 1: it's actually more effective. It's the difference of being on
Speaker 1: zoom versus being in a room with someone and understanding
Speaker 1: who they are and getting a better feel for them.
Speaker 1: You're giving them a real chance, give them a real
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. I actually give them a
Speaker 1: real chance. In the conversation. The whole thing has been
Speaker 1: a mess. And like they, but they I like. I
Speaker 1: like some of these tweaks because I don't like the
Speaker 1: idea of the zoom meeting, which was just as you say,
Speaker 1: checking a box and they're not taking it seriously at all.
Speaker 1: But Mike Tomlin, you know, I think was well said
Speaker 1: when he said he's been very involved in all these
Speaker 1: committees and different things over the years, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: have that much hope, you know, for changing too much,
Speaker 1: because it hasn't. Because I think the the at a
Speaker 1: league level, and I really believe this from Roger Goodell.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to do what they can on
Speaker 1: a league level, but it comes down to owners, and
Speaker 1: the owners have shown no particular inclination to change their behavior.
Speaker 1: They're not a transformative group, that is for sure. That's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, everybody, hold right there,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll be right back. All right.
Speaker 1: Before we say goodbye, Let's check in on what's going
Speaker 1: on with the free agents list. UM and you're right,
Speaker 1: like the Graybeards is a roster of all thirty and over,
Speaker 1: like Erica, thirty and over UM players, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot out there right on that UM, right on
Speaker 1: that precipice that are looking for jobs. This way it
Speaker 1: is every year. You know, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: on the in that age range because teams figure or
Speaker 1: think of ways to build a team without you. So
Speaker 1: let's go through some of these players that are still
Speaker 1: out there and um maybe find a fit for them. Greg,
Speaker 1: let us going, all right, I'm gonna start with one
Speaker 1: that might be controversial in this room. How about trading
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, still sitting out there. I know it's not
Speaker 1: a free agent fit, but I don't care. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: throwing this out just because it's got some juice. Because
Speaker 1: I was thinking, where can Jimmy g go? I wanted
Speaker 1: to start here. How about the New York Jet? How
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo at some point being the fail safe
Speaker 1: for Zack Wilson. This team needs to win there obviously
Speaker 1: back in Zack with everything that they can and want,
Speaker 1: But in case it doesn't go well, I have someone
Speaker 1: who I think fits well in that system. You get
Speaker 1: him at a discount price, You get an adult in
Speaker 1: the room I think can help him out too. I
Speaker 1: think it makes some sense. Joe Flacco is an adult
Speaker 1: in the room. I know you're not a Flacco guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying he is a proven Super Bowl forgot,
Speaker 1: a long time starter. But he's also not anybody's idea
Speaker 1: of someone who could step in and really take your
Speaker 1: team to any level of success at this stage in
Speaker 1: his career. Um, I I hear where you're at, and
Speaker 1: I understand the doubts because I've had them too. Wilson's
Speaker 1: Jack Wilson's rookie season was very uh up and down,
Speaker 1: mostly down. So you wanna build in some security and
Speaker 1: if you're Joe Douglas, perhaps yes, that would be a
Speaker 1: smart way to go about trying to save your job
Speaker 1: because he can't. He can't have another four and thirteen.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I just mean it's it's a
Speaker 1: win now league, it's a win now world. They are
Speaker 1: in win now. I don't believe that having a good
Speaker 1: number two like Jimmy g is going to make Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson play better or worse. And so I just think
Speaker 1: they need to prevent any situation where it goes south
Speaker 1: this year because I think they have a rafter that
Speaker 1: can compete. I like it. It's it's tough with the
Speaker 1: Jets because all these a FC teams, including now the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: are getting better. And while I think that they've had
Speaker 1: a smart offseason, you know the fact that they weren't
Speaker 1: able to get Marcus Williams. They weren't able to get
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. They were hot on both those guys, and
Speaker 1: then they came so close it seemed entyree kill even
Speaker 1: with an agreement of a trade. That's three big swings
Speaker 1: and mrs getting guys that really could help the roster
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think all of this is like
Speaker 1: putting more It's putting more and more pressure a on
Speaker 1: this draft class, which is a crapshoot in any year.
Speaker 1: Um and be everything ultimately does go back to Zac
Speaker 1: Wilson because I think, yeah, people get fired if he
Speaker 1: has a bad second season. To that point, I think
Speaker 1: the Jets obviously showed their hand with the Tyre Hill situation.
Speaker 1: They say, we don't want to use one of those
Speaker 1: draft picks on a young wide receiver. We wanted an
Speaker 1: established star. Um. We saw Seattle GM John Schneider uh
Speaker 1: say that he was shocked at what the wide receiver
Speaker 1: prices are at right now. Alright, So now that they've
Speaker 1: shown their hand, Joe Douglas be aggressive and offer a
Speaker 1: deal for DK Metcalf to come to the Jets at
Speaker 1: years old. He is an excellent fallback. In fact, when
Speaker 1: you factor in the age of the player involved and
Speaker 1: the background of the player involved. I would prefer Metcalf
Speaker 1: over tyreek Hill, and I went what would be the
Speaker 1: trade parameters? So I actually thought about this. The Vikings
Speaker 1: Bills Stefan Diggs trade is a very good judge on this.
Speaker 1: So what if the Jets and the they have two
Speaker 1: first round picks four and ten um, what if they
Speaker 1: set the tenth overall pick in two fourth round picks
Speaker 1: to Seattle from Metcalf and a fifth rounder that is
Speaker 1: very similar to the Diggs trade. I think Diggs and
Speaker 1: Metcalf are at similar places when Diggs was traded. Is
Speaker 1: that something you think Seattle would be into because I
Speaker 1: think they would because I think they see themselves as
Speaker 1: maybe a long term build at this point. John Schneider's comments,
Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty honest. It seems like he'll tell
Speaker 1: you what he thinks. Uh, just to me broadcast and
Speaker 1: telecast the concept that this is not a player they
Speaker 1: are ready to throw a ton of money at, even
Speaker 1: though they like him. I mean, Pete Carroll glowed about him,
Speaker 1: and we all get that he's great, But this is
Speaker 1: a franchise at a strange point in time right now.
Speaker 1: I think they would make that trade. Yeah, that comment
Speaker 1: was strange because it came on the heels of some
Speaker 1: whispers about DK Metcalf where there are teams maybe poking
Speaker 1: around seeing who could be the next one. Whether A J.
Speaker 1: Brown is another name that you've heard a little bit
Speaker 1: like could he potentially be on the move? That makes
Speaker 1: less sense to me. I I don't understand why the
Speaker 1: Seahawks would be trading d K, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. Weight like that. They didn't just come
Speaker 1: from these quotes. I think that offer would get it done. Dan.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that they weren't offering one of
Speaker 1: their first round picks for Tyreek Hill was interesting. They
Speaker 1: were offering two seconds, the two high seconds and some
Speaker 1: extra uh indicates maybe they weren't. They're not gonna be
Speaker 1: willing to give up that high pick. I think if
Speaker 1: they were, I think they'd get him. And I think
Speaker 1: it makes some sense those two second round picks, the
Speaker 1: Jets of two in the first ten picks of the
Speaker 1: second round um at thirty five, four and thirty eight.
Speaker 1: I believe that's incredibly valuable to GMS because you're getting
Speaker 1: a high caliber prospect and you don't have to give
Speaker 1: him the first round pick contracts. So maybe, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it's two for whatever it is. I think it makes sense.
Speaker 1: And we do know that John Schneider and Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: have a working relationship because they pulled the trigger on
Speaker 1: the Jamal Adams deal. So keep an eye on it.
Speaker 1: Mark something John Schneider might want to not be in
Speaker 1: a relationship with with that general manager after what happened
Speaker 1: with that trade. But we'll see. Um. All right, this
Speaker 1: is me more. Here's a trade that I would just
Speaker 1: like to see. I I think it's complex and maybe
Speaker 1: overly complex because of the dead money attached to it.
Speaker 1: But there have been little whispers and little rumors that
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey could be moved in time, and I would
Speaker 1: love to see him traded to the Buffalo Bills. You
Speaker 1: moved Devin Singletary or someone else in reverse, and suddenly
Speaker 1: you pair Josh Allen with Christian McCaffrey in the backfield
Speaker 1: and they are utterly unstoppable. That's scary. It's a scary
Speaker 1: thought if you're a Panthers fans. At what point do
Speaker 1: you just start feeling like you're the lower level version
Speaker 1: of the Bills that you're just you're kind of the
Speaker 1: minor league Bills, and the whole point of your existence
Speaker 1: is to help out the Bills franchise like the big club,
Speaker 1: like their Triple A, and the Bills are the real team.
Speaker 1: That would that would be a tough one to swallow
Speaker 1: if you're a Panthers fan, although I there's something to it. Well.
Speaker 1: I could see them moving McCaffrey the Jimmy, I mean
Speaker 1: the Jimmy g thing too. You mentioned it with the
Speaker 1: Niners and the and the Jets. Like, man, why would
Speaker 1: the Panthers getting the Jimmy? I think they might. They
Speaker 1: could make some sense later in the office. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone's in a hurry because he's he has a surgery,
Speaker 1: so it's like his price tag is only going to
Speaker 1: go down, uh, and he's coming off an injury. The
Speaker 1: Panthers and the Falcons might be in the two worst spots.
Speaker 1: I feel like present and future of any two teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the Panthers are Something about the Panthers,
Speaker 1: it feels a little hopeless right. Their planet quarterback has
Speaker 1: been um orchestrated about as poorly as you could even
Speaker 1: two years ago, and they're just like Baker. It's like,
Speaker 1: maybe reconsider that if if you are getting close to
Speaker 1: having Sam Donald b your starting quarterback, they've already talked
Speaker 1: about having mutual disinterest. I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 1: a tough way to start the relationship. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with a free agent. How about OH b J? To
Speaker 1: the cults, I really think players are undervalued when they're
Speaker 1: coming off these serious knee injuries, and there's something to
Speaker 1: just about two or three years. I get it, but
Speaker 1: there's something too not offering the one year deal so
Speaker 1: he can like bet on himself and make the money
Speaker 1: that do something in between. Give him some real guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: Make it a three year deal. He's not gonna make
Speaker 1: anywhere close to a top level receiver money. But maybe
Speaker 1: it's more like in the number two area. You know,
Speaker 1: it's more than MBS is making, for instance, and it's
Speaker 1: a good deal for both sides. Maybe it's just like
Speaker 1: a two year deal like that, where where O b J.
Speaker 1: You get more guaranteed money, but you're with us for
Speaker 1: two years and you're getting a really talented player into
Speaker 1: your building. They still have a ton of cap space,
Speaker 1: and the Colts just feel like they have a major
Speaker 1: needs and he's the wide receiver that's out there that
Speaker 1: can upgrade your team without having to give up a
Speaker 1: draft pick for Ricky's doing some sleuthing behind the glass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so o b J tweeted Um a little bit ago,
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. Last week random thought, Bro,
Speaker 1: I really think Matt Ryan to the Colts was actually fire.
Speaker 1: I think Bro will elevate and do some special over there.
Speaker 1: So he's he's sort of feeling that too. He's not
Speaker 1: tweeting that about all those other now he's saying, signed me,
Speaker 1: pay me, pay me a Coults because whatever, the Rams,
Speaker 1: I'm sure want him back. But he knows that he's
Speaker 1: not going to be the number one or maybe even
Speaker 1: the number two there, and I think he'd be happy
Speaker 1: to go back. But if he can get paid more
Speaker 1: money to go in Indianapolis and be a number one,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah. I mean. Jordan Rodrigum, who's been
Speaker 1: on the show, who's phenomenal with the Rams, tweeted about
Speaker 1: an hour ago that the Rams the hope desire is
Speaker 1: for him to actually return to the Rams, but they
Speaker 1: want to see you know, what's going on with the
Speaker 1: injury hasn't been done yet, but it's still been like
Speaker 1: he wants to go to the Rams too, but it's
Speaker 1: it felt like a perfect fit. Um. Alright, Lenny talks.
Speaker 1: Let's speaking of money talking money talked, Well, it wasn't
Speaker 1: just money, it was the need to be with Derek
Speaker 1: carr On on a molecular level for Davante Adams. So
Speaker 1: he left the Packers, uh, and he left a huge
Speaker 1: hole with that team. And we talked about how, yes
Speaker 1: they can the Packers, now armed with additional cap space
Speaker 1: and UH draft picks, can end up building a perhaps
Speaker 1: some more balanced wide receiver group. And I do look
Speaker 1: at it now, and I'm just looking at our old
Speaker 1: friends at our lads dot Com, Juwan Winfrey, Alan Lazard, Randall,
Speaker 1: Cob Marii Rogers, Rico Gafford, Malique Talent. These are all
Speaker 1: guys that are on their wide receiver depth chart. They
Speaker 1: do need somebody. I hesitate to say this because I
Speaker 1: do not like this player. I don't like his attitude.
Speaker 1: I don't like what he's done both off the field
Speaker 1: and on the field. But Antonio Brown, oh oh damn,
Speaker 1: he can still play. He could absolutely still play that
Speaker 1: carries a lot of weight in our league, and the
Speaker 1: Packers could look at him as someone that could, you know,
Speaker 1: give them a much needed weapon at a depressed value.
Speaker 1: Because he was such a jackass at the end of
Speaker 1: his run with Tampa Bay. Now that might be obviously
Speaker 1: a reason to stay away from him. And if you
Speaker 1: tell me Antonio Brown's NFL career is finally over from
Speaker 1: his assorted acts of jackass three, I would believe you.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'd be surprised a team
Speaker 1: is going to take a chance on him. Why not
Speaker 1: be a team that's a contender that needs somebody. I
Speaker 1: don't know, did you see the video of him circulating?
Speaker 1: I don't know when it was, but it was circulating
Speaker 1: this weekend where he saw a bald guy down in
Speaker 1: Miami and he thought it was pit Bull and he
Speaker 1: like went off to him and he's like, really love
Speaker 1: your music. Man. It was like, oh my god, it
Speaker 1: was amazing. Yeah. I didn't put him on the top
Speaker 1: one oh one because I just think he you can't
Speaker 1: sign him anymore. I mean you you probably shouldn't even
Speaker 1: couldn't have. I mean, West giving teams a lot of credit,
Speaker 1: right now I'm saying, I'm saying I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a good idea for any team to sign him, so
Speaker 1: that one who won is my team. I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a bad idea for any team to
Speaker 1: sign him in any situation because he's not He's gonna
Speaker 1: it's just have to believe him when he's telling you
Speaker 1: who he is. You know, well, they don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone believes him at all at this point.
Speaker 1: But if maybe, if you're a contender in November, sign
Speaker 1: him then, Like, I don't like the idea. Just remember
Speaker 1: the hard knocks with him in the Raiders I mean
Speaker 1: he he took that franchise and like tore them. I
Speaker 1: mean I would just say, you want him on your
Speaker 1: around your team for as little as possible in the
Speaker 1: off season. You plug him in when the games it's
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any situation. I really, when you
Speaker 1: leave the field throwing, you know, with your shirt off,
Speaker 1: and it's Tom Brady, it's the defending super Bowl champion,
Speaker 1: files that you that you you know, we're successful with
Speaker 1: the year. It's just he won a super Bowl the year.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I don't think I think at
Speaker 1: that point everyone has to look at It's like we
Speaker 1: can't do anything. But I'm just say of giving jackasses
Speaker 1: second chances. I get it. But Okay, we know we
Speaker 1: know that we know what teams don't care about. You know,
Speaker 1: we know they don't care about like what DeShawn Watson
Speaker 1: did or what you do off the field. I think
Speaker 1: the only things they care about are can they help
Speaker 1: us win? And do they like football? Like? Do they
Speaker 1: care about their job like? I think those are the
Speaker 1: only two things that they care about at all. They
Speaker 1: don't care about anything moral. And I think Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: at this point is kind of proven that the second
Speaker 1: he doesn't pass the second part, you know he doesn't.
Speaker 1: You're making a lot of sense. But maybe the rule
Speaker 1: of Antonio Brown is you never go a second year.
Speaker 1: Never go second year With Antonio, I think he's a
Speaker 1: higher gun. He's a higher gun late in the year
Speaker 1: or or like when you know your team is real
Speaker 1: but they need somebody now, and maybe they address this
Speaker 1: via trade or a draft pick. But I look at
Speaker 1: that route and it's super Bowl or bust for the Packers.
Speaker 1: We all know that that's not going to cut it.
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe it's enough to get you an NFC
Speaker 1: North title, maybe you'll score enough points, but they need
Speaker 1: to get better on that wide receiver room. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Brown until the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame discussion, which will be tiring at that point. Um,
Speaker 1: some of us will be in our fifties. Uh, Like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long time from Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: I was just trying to do the math quickly, like,
Speaker 1: because he's accurate. He's absolutely a Hall of Famer. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there's no question in my mind he's one of
Speaker 1: the greatest wide receivers of all time. You could stop.
Speaker 1: But that's when I want to talk about him next
Speaker 1: In five years, I don't think you're gonna get your Greg.
Speaker 1: I could see him. He's the way that football and
Speaker 1: like just it seems to be our world works at
Speaker 1: this point. He is an annoying enough character that he's
Speaker 1: certainly going to be back in. That's the thing he
Speaker 1: gave up on the football team. That's what people care about.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not the domestic stuff. It's not how
Speaker 1: much of a headache is that. It takes his one
Speaker 1: desperate general manager and coach out there to say, all right,
Speaker 1: he's screwed over Tom Brady and the Bucks. The Bucks
Speaker 1: aren't going to go sign him, but another team might
Speaker 1: and it has to be a strong figure, a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, he's like sitting it out I
Speaker 1: post slam and Tom Brady and stuff. No one gets
Speaker 1: past this. You want to do a sandwich that he's
Speaker 1: in the league in Yeah, I'll do that right. Two.
Speaker 1: So it ends at any point in the season, any
Speaker 1: point in the regular season. I mean, sure, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna sign him. Wait, why not playoffs? Sure, at the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but well, because usually are sandwiches end at the end
Speaker 1: of the regular season, and so it's a sure clean
Speaker 1: break point. I would be very strange that someone signed
Speaker 1: him for the playoffs. It wouldn't be that strange. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be the difference maker. There could be an
Speaker 1: injury in late November. We need him, We need him
Speaker 1: to learn the playbook between the divisional playoffs and the
Speaker 1: a f C title game. This is too much talking
Speaker 1: about Antonio gront How about this one had to be said,
Speaker 1: honey Badger, I really wanted him to go to the Jets,
Speaker 1: but that did not happen. To the Denver Broncos. Why
Speaker 1: is he still in the market. Uh, perhaps, she indicative, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he he clearly didn't get the money that he wanted,
Speaker 1: and that's true for a lot of guys near the
Speaker 1: top of the one oh one and rapped Ian indicated
Speaker 1: he didn't think now it was going to happen for
Speaker 1: a while, that he wasn't going to be in this
Speaker 1: second wave, that now he's just gonna waited out and
Speaker 1: pick the best team. And he kind of knows the
Speaker 1: deal that he really wanted isn't out there. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of teams that could use him. I didn't listen.
Speaker 1: So you have Justin Simmons. You add him to your defense.
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot else at the position, but
Speaker 1: you can be used in so many different ways. And
Speaker 1: that team is like looking for guys who can essentially
Speaker 1: just put them over the top in the earliest division football.
Speaker 1: The Ravens and the Patriots who were tied to him
Speaker 1: at first, to me still make some sense. Uh, some
Speaker 1: of the teams that would have signed and Ravens are
Speaker 1: loaded and has secondary filled their needs. And I'll just oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: not the raven Sorry that was brain. They're good. I'll
Speaker 1: throw one more out there. Gros Um, your boy, Jadeveon Clowney,
Speaker 1: he'll be on the Rams. H He's gonna replace von Miller.
Speaker 1: You got it. Need a secondary pass rusher they need.
Speaker 1: He can still stop the run. He won't be that
Speaker 1: expensive because nobody will ever pay Javan Clowney on a
Speaker 1: big multi year deal. Apparently it feels like a very
Speaker 1: Ramsey move. I mean Bobby Wagner obviously on the radar
Speaker 1: there too. I feel like everyone left that as it
Speaker 1: has a big name, could be a Ramsey type Clowney
Speaker 1: in particular. Doesn't that make sense? Yes, Stefan Gilmore could
Speaker 1: maybe be a Ramsey type type move. They certainly could
Speaker 1: use a second cornerback. I don't know. He really isn't
Speaker 1: getting the money that he thought him returning to the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I think could make some sense after all of this,
Speaker 1: that he didn't get the money that he wants. They
Speaker 1: certainly need a cornerback still, and I think, uh he
Speaker 1: would be comfortable maybe going back there. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I see you. I'm looking over your shoulder. You haven't
Speaker 1: going to the Bengals. Uh? Well, I think they could
Speaker 1: use a cornerback. Stuff on Gilmour would would fit. He'd
Speaker 1: be be plugged right into a Dwayne Brown still out there.
Speaker 1: He can play Ingram's Melvin Ingram still out there. A
Speaker 1: lot of good and we kind of speculated this before
Speaker 1: it went down. But I do will full Or joining
Speaker 1: the Browns beefing up that wide receiver group more. He's
Speaker 1: had success to the Shawn Watson that they have the
Speaker 1: room to to add more players. That just makes too
Speaker 1: much sense not to happen. I think I thought they
Speaker 1: were definitely gonna draft wide receiver before all this, but
Speaker 1: now they've been stripped of so many draft picks. The
Speaker 1: will Fuller totally fits. I think the Patriots and lean
Speaker 1: into this. We don't hide. We're like the mafia. We
Speaker 1: don't bring in anyone from the outside. Bring back Gilmore,
Speaker 1: bring back Trey Flowers, bring back Dante high Tower. It'll
Speaker 1: be like the greatest hits team Umayer of all time.
Speaker 1: But yes, and then, just just because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this list, Julio Jones and A. J. Green are both
Speaker 1: free agents. You know, these guys were the wide receivers
Speaker 1: uh during the early era of around the NFL. I
Speaker 1: wonder if either of them it's gonna be struggle for
Speaker 1: them to find work. I don't. I think they'll both
Speaker 1: be in the league for sure, probably, I wonder how
Speaker 1: long it will take. I think they're just surprised about
Speaker 1: the lack of money that they're getting. But I think
Speaker 1: if I think if they were willing to pay for
Speaker 1: let's say one year three million dollars, there'd be about
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen teams that would love to happen. But
Speaker 1: it's more of my point the passage of time that
Speaker 1: they're going to take very low guaranteed one year deals.
Speaker 1: Now at we're at that age for them, right, I
Speaker 1: have one last exceeded expectations last year one for six.
Speaker 1: I have one last DK Metcalf trade scenario. It's not
Speaker 1: going to happen, but it would be the most dest
Speaker 1: exact numbers and draft picks like I did for my
Speaker 1: So it's a lower version of what you produced. But
Speaker 1: just imagine this DK Metcalf traded to the Titans and
Speaker 1: you get DK Metcalf paired with a J. Brown. I
Speaker 1: would watch that all get the cans on grave digger.
Speaker 1: What are the the what are the prospects of the deal? Again?
Speaker 1: Why excuse me? What are the you know, specifics? I
Speaker 1: don't care about the terms. I mean, we need the terms, graver.
Speaker 1: What should they give up for him? Everything? Everything? A J.
Speaker 1: Brown and DK Metcalf. But you don't have any cap
Speaker 1: space either, right, what are you gonna do? The restructure
Speaker 1: you push, you restructure Taylor the One. They've done a
Speaker 1: lot of that though, yes, and they're right at the
Speaker 1: cat they get bired. They could still do Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: and they could still do Taylor of the One, although
Speaker 1: that would tie them to Taylor the One dead money
Speaker 1: wise for a couple more years. I think Robert Woods
Speaker 1: was there the receiver move. What do you think though
Speaker 1: about the little buzz that A J. Brown could possibly
Speaker 1: possibly available. I think it's extremely unrealistic. I think it's
Speaker 1: very much nonsense. Jon Robinson spoke about it. That's putting
Speaker 1: it out there. It's it's the jet A Lady Dolf
Speaker 1: protests to understand why this is even a story. It's like,
Speaker 1: here's you want to guess that A. J. Brown wants
Speaker 1: that money right now and he's not. And um, he
Speaker 1: has representatives. They're gonna pay him. They're gonna pay him. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think you know I have a I have a
Speaker 1: neighbor he lives around the corner from me, and that's
Speaker 1: he's from Tennessee. Shut up and hut, thank you, Paul
Speaker 1: rudd uh And he said, you know, big Titans man,
Speaker 1: he said, all we need is a decent quarterback and said,
Speaker 1: oh ouch, that just seemed a little Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: a decent quarterback. That's what I think your issue is
Speaker 1: you want more than a decent Is that how you
Speaker 1: responded to him? Said oh, just tough and they walked away. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Titans fans are very anti Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: right now because that right, I get it, but they
Speaker 1: were decent, like he to me, he would that would
Speaker 1: be the low bar that he would clear. He liked that,
Speaker 1: just like poking Grave Digger every week on how he
Speaker 1: feels about Ryan Tannehill until he breaks he's a fringe
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback. You should get Grave Digger together with
Speaker 1: your neighbor who's the Titans fan. I'm sure that that
Speaker 1: would be a good podcast. Well, he keeps firing his
Speaker 1: co host podcasts the Film Room. He's got an issue
Speaker 1: with commitment here or with you know who impacting other
Speaker 1: people's commitment. If you look at his personal history and
Speaker 1: his private life. No issue with commitment. He will dive
Speaker 1: right into commitments, no matter how thorny they may be.
Speaker 1: You gotta look at it that way too. He's driven.
Speaker 1: When you see an opportunity, you gotta take it. He
Speaker 1: always adds a little little extra. Oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about this like you got. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: dropping everything for her. Thank you, Grave Digger. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it. We'll be back on Thursday with another show
Speaker 1: Around the NFL broadcast is back on NFL Network on Friday,
Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out until then. Dan
Speaker 1: Hanson signing off for a quiet storm, El Boss, Ricky Hollywood,
Speaker 1: the Grave Digger, Save the children, save the music, Heat
Speaker 1: the Call,