Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast is mentally still want to
Speaker 1: be each in Mexico. It's true from the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I'm the guy still
Speaker 1: in Mexico, Dan Janzas. Here were some heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Great Rosenthal, and it was jut. I was just made
Speaker 1: aware that even though I was on vacation, the world
Speaker 1: went on right. I mean, I wasn't in Mexico. Who
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm not ready for this. I've only been
Speaker 1: to Mexico a few times, and I drove across the
Speaker 1: border those times. Badass boys drive badass toys. Actually, I uh,
Speaker 1: I also went into Mexico and that voyage I went
Speaker 1: from Colorado to in Theory l A. We got stuck
Speaker 1: in Arizona, but we dipped into Tijuana for a bit
Speaker 1: um and some unspeakable things occurred. Now we've been told
Speaker 1: last time I mentioned Colorado not to bring up color
Speaker 1: Auto anymore. Really or is that Arizona? I think that
Speaker 1: was Arizona. Happiness was in Colorado, so he's happy to
Speaker 1: Greg has a factual history based on no facts. Camp
Speaker 1: Happiness was a place of Mark's adolescence and that Greg
Speaker 1: actually asked the question about it during art with Greg
Speaker 1: and I spent the most the whole weekend together, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that much. Yeah, we did a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of good quality time. We were down at
Speaker 1: the the Wolf Mansion and then we saw you at
Speaker 1: Keisha's on on Sunday night. So it was it was
Speaker 1: a nice, very nice weekend. And I'd like to say
Speaker 1: that I missed you guys. I did miss you guys
Speaker 1: while I was on vacation. But when you guys are
Speaker 1: digging into you know, is the a f C East
Speaker 1: fourth place schedule actually harder than the NFC North's first
Speaker 1: place schedule. While I'm toes in the sand sipping on
Speaker 1: mescal down in he called, I don't think I didn't
Speaker 1: miss I didn't miss some things of what I missed.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. I feel like you stumbled into that.
Speaker 1: But now it's gonna become an every year thing. Like
Speaker 1: Dan missed schedule release week and now suddenly that's going
Speaker 1: to become his thing. What no no one else can
Speaker 1: leave schedule releasing that. I don't like that trend. You
Speaker 1: know what it was? Okay, it's fans, Yeah, fans love it.
Speaker 1: We got you know, Rachel Bennett, you're you're dismissing the
Speaker 1: great guests we had on that because obviously it's not
Speaker 1: sure about came on and Collin. It was great. We
Speaker 1: had a ball. You had Rachel on the show. We
Speaker 1: had a ball. It was it was a robust um
Speaker 1: enterprise and Rachel was on the show, and I know
Speaker 1: there was that controversy. She declared vengeance on you, and
Speaker 1: I imagine my co host on the show came to
Speaker 1: my defense on program. Absolutely, I was somewhat confused by it.
Speaker 1: I was saying, we're here right now. What more inner
Speaker 1: circle do you want? This is the show. That was
Speaker 1: all I said about it. I think it's assumed we'd
Speaker 1: fend would defend you. We don't need to say anything.
Speaker 1: She was a little offended that you weren't here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she thought that was somehow I like that part of it. Yeah, okay, good, Well,
Speaker 1: I like Rachel. You had Claibon involved County Fox. Of course,
Speaker 1: that's great. We got a nice show today, We got
Speaker 1: another show coming up with later in the week. We
Speaker 1: got a nice guest coming up later. Mark, you are
Speaker 1: heading out yonder. Won't even ask where you're going. This
Speaker 1: is your last show of the week, so let's make
Speaker 1: it count uh and um coming up a little bit later.
Speaker 1: There are certain presumed truths of the NFL kin of
Speaker 1: sent this time of year, post free agency, post draft
Speaker 1: h and I say we deep we debunked some of
Speaker 1: those presumed truths because sometimes the assent is actually the
Speaker 1: cony sent nailed it. That's usually where a Dan sound
Speaker 1: drop comes in. I thought there was a special Sometimes
Speaker 1: you just let that, Thank you, Paul Rudd. But first
Speaker 1: let's do some news. Zach looks good. Uh, he's definitely
Speaker 1: hit the way. Room looks beefy, uh in a good way,
Speaker 1: in a good way. Well, you can tell Dan is back.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a Zach Wilson his good shirt. That maybe
Speaker 1: that's number one on your condescent day list, that Zack
Speaker 1: Wilson is good because I don't think the cognizent is
Speaker 1: on on that yet. No, But I I will say
Speaker 1: this about Zachie. He was a little boy last year
Speaker 1: in every way physically. That is a that's a trope
Speaker 1: all the way. Obviously, Um, offseason guy beefs up, but
Speaker 1: he really needed to beef up. And I hope that's true.
Speaker 1: And it does look like a thick boy. Now he
Speaker 1: looks slight. He he looks like a thick boy. I
Speaker 1: think it's time for him. Maybe he still looks like
Speaker 1: a child, So we're are we going to the th
Speaker 1: h I C C B O only T I T
Speaker 1: H I C C B O I B O I.
Speaker 1: I'm in love if he turns into a thick boy.
Speaker 1: I feel like if Zach Wilson we're on any other team,
Speaker 1: you would be shredding him. But because he's on the Jets,
Speaker 1: somehow he's hit. The way he presents himself is getting praised.
Speaker 1: But it's good to be back. Let's get into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about your quarterback. I don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're almost quarterback. Sports Illustrators Albert Breer Burt Brier believes
Speaker 1: the NFL is likely quote wrapping things up close quote
Speaker 1: in the Deshaun Watson investigation. NFL reporter Josina Anderson reporter
Speaker 1: that league officials are meeting with Watson this week in
Speaker 1: Texas after lengthy invest the gagetion into more than twenty
Speaker 1: allegations of sexual assault against the former Texans quarterback, signed
Speaker 1: to a massive guaranteed deal by the Browns after a
Speaker 1: trade in March. Brier says that the NFL investigators usually
Speaker 1: talked to the player last. So here we are there, here,
Speaker 1: we are at this stage, and it makes sense at
Speaker 1: a certain point everyone needs to know what's the situation is.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, you really did get me thinking, Greg a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, when you're talking about this, I
Speaker 1: was thinking, oh, you know, I'll probably get dinged hard here.
Speaker 1: But now I don't know. The more I think about it,
Speaker 1: and it's like, is this gonna be a slap on
Speaker 1: the wrist relatively? Um? And what's that gonna mean? And
Speaker 1: what's that story gonna be in the league? Um? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about this? And this does seem like
Speaker 1: it's coming down now Finally, Yeah, I don't have any
Speaker 1: predictions or any feel of how this is gonna go.
Speaker 1: And NFL discipline has been very hard to predict over
Speaker 1: the last ten years just in general. But I just
Speaker 1: thought this story is certainly noteworthy that it is likely
Speaker 1: wrapping up and it is time for it to wrap up. Um.
Speaker 1: The civil lawsuits are not going to be wrapping up
Speaker 1: according to the timeline that we've seen, Like if there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a trial. They're still going through all these processes.
Speaker 1: It could last through the year, it could last into
Speaker 1: next year. So the NFL by medium seems to be
Speaker 1: indicating they are not on that timeline. Uh. Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk put out different possibilities. One could be a suspension
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be more later, or not a suspension
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be more later. But either way, this
Speaker 1: is the biggest X factor of the season. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable talk about. I don't think there's a ton
Speaker 1: of analysis, but it's absolutely the most important piece of
Speaker 1: information that we don't know about this upcoming season. We
Speaker 1: have no idea what Watson's availability is gonna be like,
Speaker 1: and I would think that that has to be coming
Speaker 1: to a head soon. Yeah, I mean, if you the
Speaker 1: reason I think everyone's saying it's coming soon is because
Speaker 1: this is how these investigations playout. They do all their
Speaker 1: work and they go to the subject typically of the
Speaker 1: investigation as the final note in the case, and then
Speaker 1: we will probably at some point and who knows, this
Speaker 1: could be a little bit down the road, but it
Speaker 1: feels like a nice summertime Friday news dump. When they
Speaker 1: dropped their result on this, and you know he's he.
Speaker 1: The other thing I noticed about this is that Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson right now has flown thirty members of the Brown's
Speaker 1: offense to the Bahamas. And that's fine. Um. You know
Speaker 1: what that tells me is that the players don't care
Speaker 1: at all about any of this. It's just like their
Speaker 1: teammates now and they're signing up to this. I mean
Speaker 1: not that I expected them too, but it's like there
Speaker 1: when you go into the actual Yeah, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do with that? I know, I I guess so,
Speaker 1: and like I I see more and more of the
Speaker 1: fan base drifting back to the team if there were
Speaker 1: issues as well. So tells me that money that first
Speaker 1: signing bonus hit, not that he was doing poor, but
Speaker 1: like or does he go to the Bahamas and never
Speaker 1: returned with the guaranteed money? That's another option the Browns say, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's lay low on some type of extravit in Bahama's
Speaker 1: trip when this is still pending right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't seem to care to that. There are elements
Speaker 1: of the story, like the headline at ESPN dot com. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, just just like this bottomless sinkhole of filth
Speaker 1: sources colon Deshaun Watson to meet with NFL. Comma also
Speaker 1: will bring Cleveland Brown's offensive teammates to Bahamas to bond.
Speaker 1: Just the story is just still so sloppy and messy
Speaker 1: and um unfortunate obviously as well. And it's funny, Like
Speaker 1: I tweeted about that headline and I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of notable in my replies that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of Browns fans like you, Mark, that were turned
Speaker 1: off by the organization and have turned their back on them.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of Browns fans that I'm sure
Speaker 1: feel don't feel good about this at all and are
Speaker 1: kind of laying low because what do you say? But
Speaker 1: then there's the vocal, whether it's a minority or the
Speaker 1: majority of the other type of Browns fans, they're like, whatever,
Speaker 1: shut up, you baby, I'm happy my quarterbacks here. We
Speaker 1: got a QB one now and that that Again, there's
Speaker 1: so many levels to the story Browns fans. It's such
Speaker 1: a great friend uh fan base and a franchise that
Speaker 1: everyone was kind of intrinsically rooting for. That Now, those
Speaker 1: type of bone heads, those bozos are like the mouthpiece
Speaker 1: of the organization. On social media. It just got mark.
Speaker 1: We talked about this privately too. There's so many layers
Speaker 1: of the story that are disappointing and what it meant,
Speaker 1: what his means to the Browns as an organization, both
Speaker 1: in the short and the long term. We're just beginning
Speaker 1: to see it. Yeah, And it's like it's funny because
Speaker 1: says we were walking in here. NFL Network was replaying
Speaker 1: the pretty crazy Brown's Chargers game from last season, where
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns put up a ton of points
Speaker 1: and barely lost to another great offense in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and uh man, that feels like a long time ago.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the last great Baker Mayfield moment because
Speaker 1: we certainly didn't leave that game being like Baker Baker.
Speaker 1: He was sensational through large parts of the game, but
Speaker 1: he did not. He had a chance to win it
Speaker 1: and he couldn't. And I think that's part of the
Speaker 1: d n a of why he's not with the team
Speaker 1: right now. I do think it's interesting that Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: on Pat McAfee even this week and he said this
Speaker 1: twice now, and I don't understand how this could ever
Speaker 1: happen that it makes sense He's not saying this would happen,
Speaker 1: but it would make sense at some point for Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield and the Browns if Deshaun Watson is suspended for
Speaker 1: a long time, to just basically put it behind them,
Speaker 1: come play, get his money, and maybe get traded midseason
Speaker 1: if he plays well. I mean, it makes logical sense
Speaker 1: that they he would be an upgrade over the guy
Speaker 1: that's in the house, and he's already under contract and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any doubt. All that makes sense. I
Speaker 1: guess that's probably why Ian's coming from on that. But
Speaker 1: obviously it's a poisoned Jake Briskets starting those games. If
Speaker 1: if Watson is uh, let's now talk some contract news
Speaker 1: and let's do it with a little time for news
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Speaker 1: Learn more and upwork dot com. The Packers couldn't find
Speaker 1: a way to make it work with Davante Adams, but
Speaker 1: they do with Jaire Alexander, the cornerback. He signs a
Speaker 1: four year, eighty four million dollar contract extension that includes
Speaker 1: thirty one million two and a cornerback record thirty million
Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus. You may remember when Jalen Ramsey got
Speaker 1: the Bag a year or two ago, and that was
Speaker 1: twenty million UH in annual pay. So cornerbacks um mark
Speaker 1: not the hottest market earlier in free agency. But we're
Speaker 1: seeing this now with some deals with some in house
Speaker 1: superstars Denzel Ward another getting paid by the teams that
Speaker 1: no how important they are to their defense. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the beat writers covering the Packers, they were on this,
Speaker 1: you know, months ago that they knew this was happening.
Speaker 1: This is something Green Bay wanted to do. I know that.
Speaker 1: You know, Alexander missed all but uh four games of
Speaker 1: the regular season, came back to play in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: which actually are in a ton of street cred with
Speaker 1: the coaches, with his teammates. Aaron Rodgers called him one
Speaker 1: of the most interesting players he's ever been around. So
Speaker 1: he's beloved in the locker room, the team loves him.
Speaker 1: And if you look at this secondary, because I know
Speaker 1: we've talked about the Saints, we've talked about the raven As,
Speaker 1: you know, top one two secondaries in the league right now.
Speaker 1: This Packers team is there because you've got Eric Stokes,
Speaker 1: Darnell Savage, Adrian Amos, Roswell Douglas who blew up blew
Speaker 1: up last year. There's a lot to like here, and
Speaker 1: it's you may get to the point where this would
Speaker 1: be a weird site. The defense might finally and slowly
Speaker 1: have a small edge over the offense on this team.
Speaker 1: I think this was a top eight coverage unit a
Speaker 1: year ago, and I think they could be better if
Speaker 1: Alexander plays the whole year. I think so. I think
Speaker 1: on paper they have one of the better defenses in
Speaker 1: the league. And the Alexander contract was interesting to me
Speaker 1: for the money purposes, because the cornerbacks got to be
Speaker 1: seeing these wide receivers making all this money. And to me, Gira,
Speaker 1: Alexander is absolutely at the same level of in A. J. Brown,
Speaker 1: and he's not far off of Davante Adams, like he
Speaker 1: should be potentially the highest paid cornerback in the league
Speaker 1: and he and he is basically, but it's still way
Speaker 1: below the wide receiver numbers. Uh. I think it's Eric
Speaker 1: Eager does this war type value um stat at PF
Speaker 1: E had j I R. Alexander is the most valuable
Speaker 1: cornerback in the league in so that's the type of
Speaker 1: player he is. Cornerbacks aren't making that sort of money yet. Um,
Speaker 1: but the Packers showed like it wasn't about money with
Speaker 1: Davante Adams. You mentioned that like they could have gotten
Speaker 1: that done. They still have one of the most amount
Speaker 1: of cap space in the entire league, and yet they're
Speaker 1: spending a ton of cash. They're like in the top five.
Speaker 1: So all those little fake um, what is it the
Speaker 1: stock the stock sales that they do, or they just
Speaker 1: like print cash and everyone gives them. Those are all
Speaker 1: part owners. Well it must be helping because they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're a small market and they're spending more cash than
Speaker 1: just about anyone. And this this is a smart way
Speaker 1: to be spending your money. A player you know that
Speaker 1: is this good? He is one of you're pretty plugged
Speaker 1: in on the salary cap stuff. And if you're telling
Speaker 1: me they still had a could have had a way
Speaker 1: to keep Davante Adams in the building, I still I
Speaker 1: don't buy it. To listen, they lost, but in actually
Speaker 1: on that same appearance, I heard him talking about they
Speaker 1: offered Davante Adams more cash in the first two years
Speaker 1: of his deal than the Raiders wanted to and it
Speaker 1: was like the highest receiver contract of all time. So
Speaker 1: what maybe it could have been handled a little more
Speaker 1: definitely in the earlier stages of his career with the team.
Speaker 1: But whatever, maybe he just wasn't meant to be and
Speaker 1: it was not the defense that knocked him out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Last year, they gave two field goals in
Speaker 1: the NFC Divisional playoffs. There was a blocked punt and
Speaker 1: then Aaron Rodgers in the offense with Davante Adams down
Speaker 1: their legs. If you knew that, would you not have
Speaker 1: bet your house, Dan that you own a bank? Well, okay,
Speaker 1: but I mean would you if you knew that's what
Speaker 1: they were they were going to give up that that
Speaker 1: kind of defensive performance, There's no way they lose that game.
Speaker 1: I was locking up my lock title, I locked up
Speaker 1: the pack. I said this is in the bag and
Speaker 1: I needed a late Rams touchdown to hold onto the trophy.
Speaker 1: That was a stunning locked defeat um Because yeah, that
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. I keep his town in location
Speaker 1: in there and let people just investigate if you're in
Speaker 1: the area or if you're not and you want to
Speaker 1: come to the area. Uh. In other news, Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: is now a member of the Saints. The Saints signed
Speaker 1: the former Brown and Dolphin wide receiver, so he now
Speaker 1: slots in nicely. Slot nailed it, Michael Thomas, Chris Lave
Speaker 1: the rookie Jarvis Landry, and I think the thing that
Speaker 1: really jumps out to a lot of people, Greggy was
Speaker 1: the money. Rap Sheet reported that Landry's base salary is
Speaker 1: just three million dollars. Tom pell Sera said it's worth
Speaker 1: up to six million. That's a great deal for a
Speaker 1: very good wide receiver. Yeah, there clearly was very little
Speaker 1: market for Jarvis Landry. I don't think Will Beckham will
Speaker 1: be the same. I'm curious if the Saints might try
Speaker 1: to keep this LSU thing going and bringing o b
Speaker 1: J still after getting Honey Badger in Landry. But I'm
Speaker 1: really thinking this Saints team looks pretty good on PAPOR.
Speaker 1: I mean, they won a lot of games last year
Speaker 1: with some pretty lousy quarterback play. Maybe Jamis hasn't gonna
Speaker 1: be much better, uh coming off the tourn a c
Speaker 1: l or not. But suddenly you go from Marcus Callaway
Speaker 1: being your number one receiver and he did get over
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards, to Marcus Callaway being your number four
Speaker 1: receiver behind those three guys you mentioned, and that's a
Speaker 1: nice a nice set up with a really good looking defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they handled their needs and there you know their thin
Speaker 1: position groups as well as anyone. There's something about the
Speaker 1: Saints because this was a you know, in a year
Speaker 1: where suddenly you don't have maybe a home run at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Their attitude was, we're going for it. We're going back
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. We're gonna knock Tom Brady and the
Speaker 1: Bucks out of one of those two regular season games,
Speaker 1: if not both, like last year. Jarvis Landry totally fits
Speaker 1: and he's already tweeting at Odell Beckham, and I think
Speaker 1: that has real sway the idea that you know, they
Speaker 1: were together in Cleveland. It went sour to go to
Speaker 1: the Saints, their hometown and to bring back Honey Badger.
Speaker 1: There's something about this New Orleans team that um is
Speaker 1: spicy as I look for a team to root for,
Speaker 1: maybe just in spirit for a year. They were in
Speaker 1: the top three for me at this point. And they
Speaker 1: have a lot of cap space too. They cleared all
Speaker 1: that space for Watson and then didn't get him, so weirdly,
Speaker 1: they have a lot and there are another team. I
Speaker 1: like teams that are just trying to win, like you
Speaker 1: don't always have to take a huge step back. They won,
Speaker 1: you know, they had a winning record last year and
Speaker 1: I think they should again. The if you were a
Speaker 1: Saints fan this year they were a finalist for Deshaun Watson, well,
Speaker 1: you're right, I don't. I'm not trying to be some
Speaker 1: sort of school in the arm about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: The Browns thing to me, that was if it was
Speaker 1: a cake, that is a big part of the cake.
Speaker 1: And there were other things in that whole Browns thing.
Speaker 1: It is this weird thing because like you know, we
Speaker 1: know Saints fans, and there was a lot that were
Speaker 1: rooty against Watson. But the second that you don't get him,
Speaker 1: it's like, well it didn't matter, Like, yeah, they went
Speaker 1: for him, but they didn't get him. He's not the
Speaker 1: guy you have to root for. Dana. Dana is a point.
Speaker 1: It is. It makes you look like you're all over
Speaker 1: the map. So and it is a little bit of
Speaker 1: a Saints fan club in here, and I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: I'm not part of it. But I think everything they've
Speaker 1: done and the roster looks good. I think the division
Speaker 1: is certainly competitive. They have a chance to win that division,
Speaker 1: but questions a quarterback and head coach or it's fair
Speaker 1: to ask how that's all gonna work together in two.
Speaker 1: But other than that, the roster is pretty good and
Speaker 1: quarterback and head coach are not small things, pretty bad
Speaker 1: looking good except for the old quarterback and head coach.
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees is done. Yeah, speaking of Saints and legends
Speaker 1: and maybe the quarterback in two. Drew Brees uh is
Speaker 1: out at NBC. By the way, big guest book booking
Speaker 1: this week. Andrew Marshan, who's taken the sports media beat.
Speaker 1: And he's just like like a dog with a bone,
Speaker 1: and if anybody even comes near a bone, he flashes
Speaker 1: those teeth and the people run away. The other dogs
Speaker 1: run away. It's it's notable that it's almost all NFL bones.
Speaker 1: It's not the other. No one seems to care about
Speaker 1: who's announcing the baseball game of the week or the
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs for the most part of my stuff, though
Speaker 1: he does, he does, but I mean, does it get
Speaker 1: on any of you guys follow all this does it?
Speaker 1: We'll talk about with Andrew. But it's a perfect storm
Speaker 1: where he's definitely plugged in. And this just happens to
Speaker 1: be this revolution in that industry of announcers being paid
Speaker 1: like star quarterbacks. Now just like, yeah, it's his be
Speaker 1: what is the what is this drop? It feels revolutionary
Speaker 1: more thank you. I had asked Grave Digger behind the
Speaker 1: scenes about forty seven seconds ago on our I Am
Speaker 1: client to have the miss of music ready, and then
Speaker 1: he played it and I didn't know what it was,
Speaker 1: so that little vacation fog there. I could have learned
Speaker 1: from you. Uh. One thing I missed out on when
Speaker 1: I was in the host chair was to check my
Speaker 1: my computer. Man, I forgotten a complete segment with Connie
Speaker 1: on the show because I didn't check Gravers. I am
Speaker 1: the one. You should do that thing where you get
Speaker 1: in the host ear. You could have done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I wasn't sure if Greg was just like, well,
Speaker 1: we've been going for an hour or so, I'll just
Speaker 1: get it. You don't know, it's unpredictable, Turf. I thought
Speaker 1: you did an excellent job those days, and then it
Speaker 1: was not on you it's on me, all right. So
Speaker 1: that's a great point. Mark. There you go, Mark, alright.
Speaker 1: Breeze is forty three years old. He retired from football
Speaker 1: last March. Spent last season as an NFL analyst for NBC.
Speaker 1: The musical Chairs game that we're gonna get into with
Speaker 1: Marshawn left him without his seat, so he tweeted Sunday
Speaker 1: in response to the New York Post Andrew Marshawn Marshawn article, Look,
Speaker 1: Marshawn is, I'll save it for tomorrow. I'll save it
Speaker 1: for this week. Here we go, later this week, here
Speaker 1: we go. Here's a Briese had to say. Now, the
Speaker 1: missive music, It's really kind of caught me off guard
Speaker 1: there too. He was just trying to push the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was trying to get me to my meeting. Despite
Speaker 1: speculation from media about my future this fall, I'm currently undecided.
Speaker 1: I may work for NBC. I may play football again.
Speaker 1: I may focus on business and florent This is always
Speaker 1: a tough one for philanthropy. I may train for the
Speaker 1: pickle Ball Tour, Senior golf Tour coach. My kids are
Speaker 1: all the above. I'll let you know that laughter was
Speaker 1: my laughter in an editorial note. So and then Uh,
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, speaking of Dennis Allen said of that cryptic tweet, Uh,
Speaker 1: it was likely made in jest about a potential return
Speaker 1: to football. Uh. We could save the the analysis of
Speaker 1: his broadcasting career for later in the week. But do
Speaker 1: you guys think there's any way we see breeze again
Speaker 1: on the field. No, because I think this a The
Speaker 1: Saints aren't don't sound interested on any level. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think that what we saw of Drew Brees was
Speaker 1: the right time for him to leave the field. The
Speaker 1: only thing I'll say about broadcasting real quick is I
Speaker 1: won't be here for that. One is that that tweet
Speaker 1: is a point blank explanation of why Drew Brees is
Speaker 1: not going to be with NBC anymore. He is not funny,
Speaker 1: he is not interesting. I don't find that quote um
Speaker 1: in any way entertaining, right. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was just Also that the tweet before it was
Speaker 1: about signing a uh Landry and Honey Badger, and and
Speaker 1: he said makes me want to come back and play again.
Speaker 1: I mean, this doesn't seem that subtle. But I'm with Mark.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much of a chance that he
Speaker 1: will play because the Saints are the only team that
Speaker 1: you could imagine him playing with, and they seem to
Speaker 1: be putting out the word through the reporters and even
Speaker 1: Allen's comments that they're just not that interested. The fact
Speaker 1: that he started it with with I may work for
Speaker 1: NBC after the report was that they are moving on
Speaker 1: was a tough, a tough scene. It felt like it
Speaker 1: mind me that you know that drill tweet where it
Speaker 1: gets retweeted a lot, It's about a decade where it's
Speaker 1: like I'm not owned, I'm not owned. I continue to
Speaker 1: insist as I slowly shrink and transform into a corn
Speaker 1: cup just like that. That's that's the meme that the
Speaker 1: Drew brees. He's like, I'm not owned, I'm not on.
Speaker 1: I was not fired, Like uh yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: bad year. But you also, you know there's something that
Speaker 1: said about developing your talent and he didn't give much,
Speaker 1: get much run. I guess that's got a bad vibe.
Speaker 1: Can I make one little note about the missive music? Um,
Speaker 1: could you just play it for a second because I
Speaker 1: just want you to think about this. This is this
Speaker 1: is like I'm not saying this was recorded during the
Speaker 1: Revolutionary War. It's obviously it's a new band has come
Speaker 1: and done this, but in real wartime scenarios there were
Speaker 1: boys like the tasked with wearing like the tight clothing
Speaker 1: and playing on a flute while everyone else has a cannon.
Speaker 1: It's like every like you're walking around with a musical
Speaker 1: instrument on a war field. It sounds like one of
Speaker 1: the worst possible tasks. Now, what is it about the
Speaker 1: tight clothing on small boys that stands out? Now that
Speaker 1: maybe what's standing out so much. They were all in
Speaker 1: that clothing. But it's like you're in your award and
Speaker 1: everyone else is getting a musket and like you know,
Speaker 1: hand revolver and you know, a club or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then you're like, here's a flute. Yeah, here's to the
Speaker 1: front of the Wait, we're also here for our enemies entertainment.
Speaker 1: Let us play music for them as well. It just
Speaker 1: feels slightly off key. I wonder I would definitely watch
Speaker 1: a Netflix documentary on that, Not that any of the
Speaker 1: participants are with us to tell us how it really worked,
Speaker 1: but you would imagine they would take the physically weaker
Speaker 1: UH soldiers maybe the more musically inclined but not most
Speaker 1: that partically gifted the artists, maybe the the you know,
Speaker 1: the the the the offshoot of the NFL painter here
Speaker 1: that that has to finish it in two hours or less,
Speaker 1: potentially us it's coming back for that. I would tell
Speaker 1: on the Saints paintings soon. Yeah, No, that that that's
Speaker 1: absolutely fair. Mark. Let's um, let's ponder. That's take a
Speaker 1: break and ponder it. We'll be right back to finish
Speaker 1: the news and then we'll get to our sex. All right,
Speaker 1: let's spend through the rest of the news real quickly
Speaker 1: here because we've got to get things done here, all right.
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram Edge, I think he was on a he
Speaker 1: was a gray Beard too, so he comes out of
Speaker 1: gray gray Beard purgatory to sign with the Dolphins formerly
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. You like that move, Greggy, I do.
Speaker 1: I think he could wind up starting for them their
Speaker 1: top three. I'm I'm banging through the projected Starters series.
Speaker 1: The NFC is going out this week, gavec next week.
Speaker 1: I believe they have Andrew Van Ginkel and Jalen Phillips,
Speaker 1: who actually that's a good young duo. But Ingram comes
Speaker 1: in there. Those three probably share the snaps. It's a
Speaker 1: good looking roster on paper, this Dolphins team, and I
Speaker 1: think that was one of their biggest weaknesses. That was
Speaker 1: a nice move. All right, you got something else. No,
Speaker 1: I was pointing to you that you can we have
Speaker 1: business do you can keep going. It's like, did a
Speaker 1: great job with that. But now because we had that miscommunication,
Speaker 1: it's filling in the void. What would have been a
Speaker 1: take for you that would have well, we need to
Speaker 1: do another shows to get that kind of thing ironed out.
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy legal trouble. Colorado sheriff has announced that Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy's arrest UH this week or last week is on
Speaker 1: second degree criminal tampering with a domestic violence enhancer. The
Speaker 1: Sheriff's took department in arab Pahoe County, Colorado. Listen, he's
Speaker 1: a native. I actually lived on a Rapaho road for
Speaker 1: a bit, so there was no act of violence before
Speaker 1: Judy's arrest on the charges, and he will be released
Speaker 1: on bond, or has been released on bond. So some
Speaker 1: criminal issues uh for Jerry Judy. We'll see how those
Speaker 1: charges play out. Falcons acquire wide receiver Brian Edwards in
Speaker 1: seventh round pick from the Raiders in exchange for a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. This has got you hot in the pants, Greggy,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't um. But they had another move, I
Speaker 1: mean some revelations. It's it's as like thin a receiver
Speaker 1: position front. It was as thin a position as they have,
Speaker 1: so Edwards could potentially start. But they also made a
Speaker 1: signing this week that caught my eye knit Quitkowski who
Speaker 1: I U. Who I always will remember is that West
Speaker 1: was a big fan of his in his last year
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and then the Raiders signed him. He kind
Speaker 1: of fell up the map when he went with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: But that was only interesting because it really looks like
Speaker 1: Dion Jones is not going to be back with the Falcons,
Speaker 1: something I didn't realize until I was doing this Projected
Speaker 1: Starters series that even their UH team website basically indicated
Speaker 1: that they expect him to be traded or released. That
Speaker 1: there's three different options of what they're gonna do with
Speaker 1: Dion Jones, and option three was, well, he could stay here.
Speaker 1: So it sounded like a guy who I was writing
Speaker 1: about at halftime of the Super Bowl as like the
Speaker 1: key piece of a defense that was shutting down the
Speaker 1: Patriots and was certainly a core player for that Falcons
Speaker 1: team for a while and made a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And it's still young, only twenty seven. Will probably not
Speaker 1: be a member of the Falcons by the time we
Speaker 1: get to the season. I don't know if they'll be
Speaker 1: able to get a late round pick or what they'll
Speaker 1: get for him, but he's a good young That is
Speaker 1: a rough roster. M hm. You had something there, Greggy.
Speaker 1: I mean you, you don't think that was show worthy?
Speaker 1: The real player? Hey, listen, you were passionate about it.
Speaker 1: The Falcons don't always get the most coverage. I'm very umm,
Speaker 1: I'm on board with it. You had written in your
Speaker 1: potential news rundown the event um next to Brian Edwards
Speaker 1: and Nickikowski. I have a connected take and all we
Speaker 1: better get that. Well, here's why, because every once in
Speaker 1: a while you'll see a pretty low level news item
Speaker 1: and I have a connected break. I don't blame you,
Speaker 1: but you just take it out of the show because
Speaker 1: it's like we go too long and you see Quickkowski
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, why are we talking quick Kowski? Just like,
Speaker 1: let's get this in there for the Dean. They signed
Speaker 1: Rashaan Evans, by the way, too, so they have two guys.
Speaker 1: He also drafted someone there, so it does broadcasting move
Speaker 1: grave digger, Um, where's your drop? By the way, that
Speaker 1: doesn't go away because I want to vacation. UM put
Speaker 1: it in the list of potential segment ideas. I have
Speaker 1: a connected take there. For a second, I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna make fun of me and say like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do Dion Jones landing sponsor something later. And now
Speaker 1: we were letting you have that. You're your passionate And
Speaker 1: finally in the news, Matt Rule, the yes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it, No, not moribund coach, the embattled Matt Rule.
Speaker 1: It's his turn. He's got You know, we always like
Speaker 1: who's gonna be in the next coach who has to
Speaker 1: each for four straight months and then get fired or
Speaker 1: eight straight months. Last year, of course is Matt Maaggie.
Speaker 1: The year before it was Adam Gaze and Natty Rule
Speaker 1: you get the crown. Earlier last week, a report came
Speaker 1: out that Panther's owner David Tepper is interested in potentially
Speaker 1: hiring former Saints head coach Sean Payton next season. UM.
Speaker 1: After Payton tests interest interest in doing television and uh,
Speaker 1: Joe Person has covered the Panthers there forever. On the
Speaker 1: Panthers eyeing Sean Payton report, Matt Rule said Dave Tepper
Speaker 1: called him to tell him the story was coming out
Speaker 1: and there was nothing to it. And and yet Mark,
Speaker 1: that doesn't feel true. It does not feel true at all.
Speaker 1: Number one, the statement that the Panthers issued read reads
Speaker 1: as such, we would not talk to or consider it
Speaker 1: back to the missive and for an embattled coach, Greggy
Speaker 1: take the flute. We would not talk to or consider
Speaker 1: a coach who's under contract with another team. Uh. Now,
Speaker 1: hold on, They doesn't even mention, by the way, uh,
Speaker 1: we love Matt Rule, like we believe in that rule.
Speaker 1: It's like we just wouldn't do that, like you you
Speaker 1: already And by the way, are the Saints in any
Speaker 1: scenario who owned the rights of Sean Payton gonna ever
Speaker 1: trade Sean Payton a at all? Probably not, but be
Speaker 1: inside their own division to the Panthers, Are you nuts?
Speaker 1: I um thought this report had validity to it. That
Speaker 1: was only emboldened by that phone call to Joseph Person
Speaker 1: that you mentioned. And by the statement, I mean that
Speaker 1: it's like you're protesting too much. It also was a
Speaker 1: random but reputable source like out of nowhere, and when
Speaker 1: reports happened like that with someone that's credible but like
Speaker 1: doesn't usually break into phone knows like this guy knows
Speaker 1: like he has some inside information, and it totally makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. And I take offense that you get.
Speaker 1: You say I'm the flute guy, um like a No,
Speaker 1: I was reading the statement so not artistic at all.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible at music and I'm sneaky athletic, So put
Speaker 1: me up on the front lines. I'll get I'll get
Speaker 1: stuff done. You know I'm not gotta be you were Gregg,
Speaker 1: you were a vocalist in a goth Man. It's fair
Speaker 1: it was not a well, I mean that you've given
Speaker 1: us no other proof that it wasn't. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna put you with all the barbarians like the
Speaker 1: back row. You know you gotta have a I think
Speaker 1: you would make sense as like the fast like guy
Speaker 1: doing like Ninja moves up front. If we're gonna just
Speaker 1: if you insist endurance, I don't need to even state
Speaker 1: my credentials. But that's actually probably beneficial for the flute
Speaker 1: players in that realm to be athletic and inside you know,
Speaker 1: it's inside of your brother is an accomplished guitar player.
Speaker 1: He's a composer, but it's not inside me. I composer
Speaker 1: for Christ's sake, And it's in you. It's in you somewhere.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I have some I have a
Speaker 1: little sound um from the future. Do you want to
Speaker 1: hear it? Yes? All right? This is from January mat
Speaker 1: Role running out of the team facility at being fired.
Speaker 1: That's going to the airport we just landed in Austin.
Speaker 1: International's renting a car and he's signing a huge contract
Speaker 1: with a big twelve team where he'll be the head
Speaker 1: coach and be happy again. One thing, remember the Panthers
Speaker 1: signed him to like a seven year deal and annoyed everyone.
Speaker 1: He could be paid to do nothing for like the
Speaker 1: next four years. It annoys David never else. I also
Speaker 1: noticed that Sean Payton, in his TV deal that we've
Speaker 1: heard like has been percolating for a while, is gonna
Speaker 1: be with Fox and he's just filling in on days
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Johnson isn't there. So it's not like this
Speaker 1: is this is clearly sort of a hit it and
Speaker 1: quit it scenario for him in the media. He seems
Speaker 1: very much angling already to be getting back into coaching. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like, how many days does Jimmy Johnson missed that's
Speaker 1: a whole job. Maybe it is, maybe it's like seven days,
Speaker 1: but it's it can't be like that many days are
Speaker 1: going to come to the production meeting. I don't care.
Speaker 1: That's that's damnash X impression of we all right, that's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right. Now, it's time
Speaker 1: to debunk some presumed truths of the football cognisant day ellipsy,
Speaker 1: ellipsis ellipsy or should I say con yes, Sunday, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start one one that's very unpopular. And again, this
Speaker 1: is not necessarily uh my feelings personally that I'm dooming
Speaker 1: a team that they have no chance, or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever this is gonna be. It doesn't mean this is
Speaker 1: how I feel. It's just more about, like, let's toned
Speaker 1: down the rhetoric. Let's tone down group think is a
Speaker 1: crazy thing on in the NFL and on on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and everybody seems to get hyped up about the same teams,
Speaker 1: and I just want to bring the temperature down a
Speaker 1: little bit. In Detroit. Let's start there. Um, the presumed
Speaker 1: truth is the Lions will be good. It's gonna bring
Speaker 1: that down. I think they're much closer to the Bears
Speaker 1: than they are to the Packers. And for what it's worth,
Speaker 1: Vegas agrees DraftKings has there over under its six and
Speaker 1: a half wins. But wouldn't that indicate it's not a
Speaker 1: presumed truth at all. That's sort of the best draft kick.
Speaker 1: But DraftKings is separate than the football I can you
Speaker 1: sent it? You hear it. I'm with you, especially of late.
Speaker 1: And it's funny before I with Greg's help, of course,
Speaker 1: because he had to send me the link where to
Speaker 1: find this information. Um, I went through their schedule and
Speaker 1: I did it with a generous eye, and I saw
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be on hard knocks and that's great.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I see seven and ten, which is
Speaker 1: a big jump forward for the team. So I would
Speaker 1: bang the over. But if you look at a schedule
Speaker 1: of team and you see whatever the record is, you
Speaker 1: can make the case for two extra wins, which would
Speaker 1: make him nine and eight and probably a playoff team.
Speaker 1: But you also can go the other way, and you
Speaker 1: can say well, they can go five and twelve too.
Speaker 1: I think that's within the realm. Um. The bottom line
Speaker 1: for me is they're probably a year away at least,
Speaker 1: and we shouldn't rush to make them a thing. You've
Speaker 1: seen a little bit that with the Jets right now
Speaker 1: too on in the a f C. There's no need
Speaker 1: to rush. They can improve without being the next Bengals,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the best case scenario, um, and
Speaker 1: I have some reasons why, but I just want to
Speaker 1: throw it to you guys and get your initial feelings
Speaker 1: on that. I'm with you. I think that there's a
Speaker 1: there's were conflating the idea that the Lions are finally
Speaker 1: not like raging Lee Dull. There's interest around them. Um.
Speaker 1: The way they finished last season I think has a
Speaker 1: lot to do with the way people think they might
Speaker 1: just pick up where they left off. They have their
Speaker 1: wide receiver room compared to where they were a year
Speaker 1: ago this time is juicy. They've got parts on offense.
Speaker 1: I think they're good on both lines. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about the way they're building the team, and
Speaker 1: they're competent finally. But the idea that they're gonna hop
Speaker 1: scotch the Bears. I can buy that because the Bears
Speaker 1: are gonna rebuild. The Vikings and the Packers no, and
Speaker 1: so are you gonna be the third team in that
Speaker 1: division to make a wild card or go win nine
Speaker 1: games and then balance out with the rest of the NFC.
Speaker 1: I think they're a year away, but I do think
Speaker 1: there's a reason for optimism find where I think the
Speaker 1: excitement is just about the process. Though. I think when
Speaker 1: we get to August and we see that list of
Speaker 1: like the thirty NFL dot Com analysts, they'll be about
Speaker 1: to that actually pick them to the playoffs. So now
Speaker 1: we're pushing back against the excitement, and I'm I am excited,
Speaker 1: But to me, it's more about the build, and I
Speaker 1: think people like to get on for the ride. So
Speaker 1: to your point, you're right, everyone's excited because it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: they're making smart decisions, Their coaches seem like they get it,
Speaker 1: their front office seems like they get it, their teams
Speaker 1: coming together. And yet I think most of the people
Speaker 1: even saying that, including me, are totally on board with everything.
Speaker 1: The two of you guys just said that it's it's
Speaker 1: coming up. If things broke really well for them, maybe
Speaker 1: this year, Like you said, could be interesting you get
Speaker 1: a winning record, but it's more like we're getting in
Speaker 1: on the ground floor. This is gonna be fun. It's
Speaker 1: gonna it's like the process in Philadelphia. People love to
Speaker 1: get into the rebuilds, and this is actually a rebuild
Speaker 1: that looks like it's in a steady year two. Client,
Speaker 1: you know what's happening, because here's here's to your point
Speaker 1: in like you're gonna start to see this with certain
Speaker 1: people out there that it's it's may you want to
Speaker 1: make an impact as any in the list. I could
Speaker 1: go on a long two minutes speech talking about how
Speaker 1: I'm on the Lions bandwagon right now. They're going to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. You've done it in the past, Well
Speaker 1: I did two years ago, and I couldn't have been
Speaker 1: more wrong. It's not not even because of that that
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, but it's like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of that packaging, the idea that you're the Lions person.
Speaker 1: It goes out on Twitter, a bunch of people start
Speaker 1: to rally around you, and it's a product for the
Speaker 1: the analyst more than reality. And it would be shame
Speaker 1: on me if I'm pushing back against the excitement because
Speaker 1: look at my family, Agians. That's what I have right now,
Speaker 1: the idea that you're building something ute team right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: quote unquote the right way and all that. Um, but
Speaker 1: it's not that I think there is a contingent within
Speaker 1: the inner circle of the conescent a that is seeing
Speaker 1: this is maybe more like they could shock people this year. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to have takes right now because
Speaker 1: I realize I usually like change my takes between May
Speaker 1: in August and by August I probably start like reacting
Speaker 1: to the other takes that are out there. So I've
Speaker 1: just gotta like withhold my takes. That's good. I think
Speaker 1: that's smart. I think for them to get to get
Speaker 1: to that nine and eight, you know, golf has to
Speaker 1: stay healthy and be pretty good. James, you think nine
Speaker 1: and eight is doable though, because I think golf has
Speaker 1: to play well. Jameson Williams has to make an impact. Um,
Speaker 1: you need this offensive line to hold up, which I
Speaker 1: think it will looks good. The running back rooms exciting,
Speaker 1: but you need health in that realm Aidan Hutchinson should
Speaker 1: make it an immediate impact, but you kind of need
Speaker 1: him to. Jeff A Couta's back, But is he going
Speaker 1: to be a guy that lives up to his draft stock.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that have to go right there.
Speaker 1: The back seven on defense, their linebackers, and then their
Speaker 1: secondary is certainly the weakest part of their team. And
Speaker 1: I think they coached them up well last year. Um,
Speaker 1: but they're a year away too. In addition to golf,
Speaker 1: Hutchinson though, is joining a really exciting front group, Like
Speaker 1: I think that is a pass rush that goes six seven,
Speaker 1: eight deep. Uh, And that's that's a nice And we
Speaker 1: do love Dan Campbell. Everybody loves Dan Campbell and he
Speaker 1: was the per to kind of face of that team
Speaker 1: during that season. I would like to see him and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff with a better roster. Do they play
Speaker 1: the guitar Eric Rosenthal? I mean, how dare you Dean Rosie?
Speaker 1: What's his middle name? Stewart? Okay, so you didn't even
Speaker 1: get the men will never forget that again, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And there was a part in like high school going
Speaker 1: into college where he either was considering or actually did
Speaker 1: go by the art like by the name Dean Stewart. Well,
Speaker 1: that sounds like it sounds like something, but I felt
Speaker 1: like it's a little like you're throwing off the Jewey
Speaker 1: Rosenthal of it all. Probably entertainment that move. So it's
Speaker 1: not like he went I don't think he felt bad
Speaker 1: about it. He went back, you know, all right, what
Speaker 1: do you got? Mark? Uh? Okay, this probably won't be
Speaker 1: very popular in this room. Um. I just feel that
Speaker 1: the wrongnessenti or NONNISCENTI have CONNSCENTI have crowned the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills a little early, very rich and deep AFC. And
Speaker 1: do I think that they're a playoff team? Absolutely? Are
Speaker 1: they probably gonna win their division? Absolutely? Are they are?
Speaker 1: They will see the way they do from there they
Speaker 1: were They lost six games a year ago, going five
Speaker 1: and one against a putrid a f C. East. I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins are a different team. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: tougher to defend than ever before during all of this business.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are the kind of team that
Speaker 1: can split with the Bills the Patriots can split. I
Speaker 1: really do think that if the Jet unless the Jets.
Speaker 1: But if the Jets can't beat the Bills and they
Speaker 1: can't beat the Dolphins, then what are we twire? We
Speaker 1: talking about the Jets so much there's got to be
Speaker 1: a step at some point. Well, that's that's fair, But
Speaker 1: I would just say, you went five and one in
Speaker 1: your division last year and still lost six games. They
Speaker 1: open with the Rams, the Titans, the Dolphins, who they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to see them early before they have a
Speaker 1: lot of tape on what they're doing, the Rave and
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Chiefs and the Packers. The schedule opens
Speaker 1: up from there, but they don't have the easiest of slates.
Speaker 1: And I would just say over the last two years,
Speaker 1: a they've done an awesome job building up the team.
Speaker 1: They did an awesome job growing Josh Allen. Brian Dable
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with that. You have to
Speaker 1: project and hope that Ken Dorsey, who has been there
Speaker 1: for a while, it's a seamless transition. I think it's
Speaker 1: a good guy to take over, but he's never done
Speaker 1: what Brian Dable has done before in the same capacity.
Speaker 1: There is difference right there. That does take away the
Speaker 1: quarterback relationship. And everything went right healthwise, mostly for the
Speaker 1: Bills over the last two seasons. They it wasn't a
Speaker 1: team that had to deal with a ton of adversity.
Speaker 1: Does that happen three years in a row to NFL
Speaker 1: teams typically not. I'm just saying I'm not projecting them
Speaker 1: in the A s C title game without putting any
Speaker 1: mental thought to the fact that the A s C
Speaker 1: as a thorny mess right now. That's where your argument
Speaker 1: to me lands, that there could be eight teams that
Speaker 1: you could see being in the a f C Championship
Speaker 1: and just assuming that the Bills, who I think on
Speaker 1: paper are the best team on paper and finished last
Speaker 1: season so strong, are just gonna be right back there.
Speaker 1: We we know that's just not how it always works.
Speaker 1: But just because of that doesn't make me really believe
Speaker 1: in them left. It's more just the a f C.
Speaker 1: You're right, some of those teams that aren't the Bills
Speaker 1: essentially or the Chiefs are gonna step up and probably
Speaker 1: be a superpower too. I just think they'll be with
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think the Bills will be alongside whoever
Speaker 1: those other teams are. And even before Brian day Ball
Speaker 1: left town, we were talking for weeks on this show
Speaker 1: during the regular season last year out what happened to
Speaker 1: the Bill's offense. It's it's not impossible if they could
Speaker 1: have as similar or even worse issues as they kind
Speaker 1: of start this new era. I will point out because
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans are probably yelling at their player right now. Uh.
Speaker 1: They did lose Tradevious White to torn A c l
Speaker 1: last December, which was a crushing loss for that defense.
Speaker 1: Um the year before, I think they were far more healthy,
Speaker 1: but that was a huge loss. You get him back
Speaker 1: like nothing went wrong, but in general it wasn't like
Speaker 1: that what happened to the raider so big on the
Speaker 1: Bills two years ago. But I like them, I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's just that when everyone became a Bills
Speaker 1: fans sudden, it was like, because they were ready to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl last year, that's a fair he
Speaker 1: likes to get in before. That's why late period Browns
Speaker 1: fanning for you was so difficult. I imagine. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that played apart and you're jumping off. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, there were Browns fans literally everywhere you look,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, wasn't so special to be
Speaker 1: a Browns fan anymore. Even in our building. There was
Speaker 1: a time when I was like, there are like twenty
Speaker 1: seven Browns fans inside NFL network. It's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. The thing with the Bills though, why
Speaker 1: so many people including myself, are so high as I
Speaker 1: just think they had a great offseason. On top of that, now,
Speaker 1: dealing with expectations is difficult, but this is a team
Speaker 1: that added von Miller and on top of that Dai
Speaker 1: Kwon Jones, Tim Settle, which I think we're smart. Moves. Uh,
Speaker 1: they take a cornerback and you get white back at
Speaker 1: in the first rounding and you get white back. Just
Speaker 1: the moves all made sense to me this offseason that
Speaker 1: they took a great roster. They were satisfied, and it
Speaker 1: looks a little better even too. That's fair floutest loudest,
Speaker 1: he's a lout ist. I tried. I tried to be
Speaker 1: a good musician. I could not live up to d
Speaker 1: You know this is your chance seeing shadow. How cool
Speaker 1: would it be to be a good musician. I don't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't in me. I tried. I talked
Speaker 1: to we. I think Ricky played a sound drop on
Speaker 1: this message I left for Colleen. If if you just
Speaker 1: learned that acoustic guitar, if I could just kind of learned,
Speaker 1: wonder wall, if I could I learn a couple of
Speaker 1: Pete yourne songs. In two thousand one, what would have happened?
Speaker 1: You would have been on fire at at party, exactly
Speaker 1: like that room off the main room in a party,
Speaker 1: the sky's playing this little wonder wall. Wasn't Hoboken with
Speaker 1: my buddies years old, and we come back from Washington
Speaker 1: and I got the acts. Then what happens? I'll give
Speaker 1: you some lessons sometime. What is it me? He's always
Speaker 1: got to insert his swarthiness into the episode. You know, grape,
Speaker 1: they're gonna use that for the blonde paramore. That is
Speaker 1: not to be spoken of on the show any longer.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he doesn't want that. Oh here's a song,
Speaker 1: a little song. Yeah, it's it's it's a romantic special.
Speaker 1: It really break in the lady. But throughout this I
Speaker 1: think Dan, you would have married a Hoboken area bartenders disappeared.
Speaker 1: Lyrics were not what people were into with Bush. It
Speaker 1: was that that dude was hot, you know. I think
Speaker 1: they helped. He was not a thick boy either. He
Speaker 1: was a life, live live. He was a live boy.
Speaker 1: All right, Um, let's take a break and continue. All right,
Speaker 1: you're up, all right, I'm gonna base mine on stupid
Speaker 1: my mentions, and and I'm just gonna assume like my
Speaker 1: mentions are somehow indicative of consensus. Jalen Hurts is like
Speaker 1: the biggest question when it comes to the Eagles out
Speaker 1: there to me. But what I'm pushing back against is
Speaker 1: the idea that Jalen Hurts needs to take this big
Speaker 1: step for the Eagles to be a really good team.
Speaker 1: He to me, he doesn't. He's already there. He's better
Speaker 1: than people think. He definitely had his worst or second
Speaker 1: worst game of the year in the playoffs, and that's
Speaker 1: absolutely a concern. But he's also a second year starter.
Speaker 1: Who uh to me, you know certainly that happens. It
Speaker 1: happened to Josh Allen. Not saying he's gonna be Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: He is close to being a league average starter or
Speaker 1: already a league average starter right now. And like my
Speaker 1: belief in the Eagles, And you mentioned the over unders
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, it's an eight and a half, which
Speaker 1: seems crazy to me. To me, I think they can
Speaker 1: be And this is one take I don't mind getting
Speaker 1: there early. I'm not going to back off it. I
Speaker 1: think they can be a ten eleven win type of team.
Speaker 1: Because their team is really strong and all they need
Speaker 1: is Jalen Hurts to basically repeat what he did a
Speaker 1: year ago, except now you're gonna have a little more
Speaker 1: help with a j. Brown. But keep that running game
Speaker 1: going with with him as a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: Keep being efficient enough as a passer and getting the
Speaker 1: mismatches that a Lamar Jackson gets in the passing game,
Speaker 1: and he is going to be just fine. The rest
Speaker 1: of the team can help him out and that they
Speaker 1: can be a contender with Jalen Hurts being the guy
Speaker 1: he was a year ago. I think the I have
Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue with them the conceit
Speaker 1: on this one because I think within the realm of
Speaker 1: the football COGNISENTI it seems to me like Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: is a popular figure um and it's fans, including Eagles fans,
Speaker 1: a lot uh times it seems that somehow or sometimes
Speaker 1: seem to have doubts about his ability. I feel like
Speaker 1: the general vibe about and maybe I'm wrong. Mark, You
Speaker 1: tell me what you think is that Hurts is a
Speaker 1: young ascendant quarterback that's not as talented maybe as the
Speaker 1: top tier guys. But put him in the right offense
Speaker 1: and let him use his legs and his arm. He
Speaker 1: can be a guy that's a top twelve starter potentially,
Speaker 1: Like is I feel like that's where most people are
Speaker 1: at it. Well. I think also that there's two different communities.
Speaker 1: There's the football fan, but then there's the fantasy community
Speaker 1: that are all over Jalen Hurts. They love him because
Speaker 1: I think his floor is so high, right, and I
Speaker 1: so that sort of I kind of think his floor
Speaker 1: as an NFL starting quarterback is similarly high. Like to me,
Speaker 1: he's a tick above where Teddy or two Ah, we're
Speaker 1: a year ago and that team is strong. That's why
Speaker 1: I like the Eagles. It's not because of Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: And there is a chance here because Jalen Hurts got
Speaker 1: so much better. I think from college to his rookie
Speaker 1: years to second year, there's certainly a chance he could
Speaker 1: mature and continue to become a better passer and go
Speaker 1: up another level. And then you're really healthy and gas
Speaker 1: you're cooking with grease. That's actually sounds dangerous. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a house exploding. The Jalen Hurts health issue, because
Speaker 1: if he's got to be a guy that moves around
Speaker 1: a lot. He had ankle surgery in the off season.
Speaker 1: It kind of wiped out his UH ceiling throughout the
Speaker 1: end of the season. In the playoffs, he does his
Speaker 1: style play match up with what the big man upstairs
Speaker 1: gave him BodyWise. Staying healthy is a skill set, it
Speaker 1: really is. That's fair because I I think he is
Speaker 1: not ready to be transitioning away from his running game
Speaker 1: being a huge part of that offense. That's what made
Speaker 1: that offense. And I think they still need to run
Speaker 1: him a lot. It's maybe year four or five, whatever,
Speaker 1: you start backing off a little, We're not there. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing with A. J. Brown is like they
Speaker 1: you love the idea of them adding him, but that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have necessarily made the team what they were last year,
Speaker 1: like they were in a typical type of offense. But
Speaker 1: one thing, you've been on the Eagles thing and you're
Speaker 1: projecting them to win ten games. They won ninety year ago,
Speaker 1: So you gotta go a little stronger if you want
Speaker 1: to be in this Eagles When it comes to it,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the over under was eight and a half,
Speaker 1: so yeah, clearing that, I think they have a chance
Speaker 1: to be really, really good. That type of team. All right, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's do a quick one. Okay, Um, Greg's
Speaker 1: got this meeting coming up, so many we've got plenty
Speaker 1: of time. I'm concerned about your schedule. How much time
Speaker 1: do you have We'll be done well thirty two. If
Speaker 1: they were coming to you, I guess you'd have to
Speaker 1: travel in the building somewhere. So no, it's just a
Speaker 1: phone call. It's just the phone thirty two minutes. All right,
Speaker 1: here it is. This is the general kind of consensus
Speaker 1: statement slash bit from the football Cogney sent they Tom
Speaker 1: Brady will take the top analyst job in the NFL
Speaker 1: on Fox Booth upon his retirement. So I guess that
Speaker 1: will be about six. West love that soon. Five. This
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady's last year. And if you can't see that,
Speaker 1: you're not paying attention this. This is not all your
Speaker 1: bits about. He'll be playing forever. No, like he tried
Speaker 1: to retire this year, he couldn't bring himself to it.
Speaker 1: He didn't have things quite set up how he wanted to,
Speaker 1: uh in terms of post NFL. Something to take up
Speaker 1: his time, something to focus on. This huge deal. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it with Andrew Mishan. I know you
Speaker 1: guys talked about it last week, where he gets paid
Speaker 1: Bonker's money to be the number one booth guy for Fox,
Speaker 1: who's two super Bowls in the next three years. All
Speaker 1: this stuff ties in like they want him in the
Speaker 1: booth for the Super Bowl in at least one of
Speaker 1: those years. Uh and maybe both uh. And that's why
Speaker 1: you kind of can connect the dots here. This is
Speaker 1: tom Brady's final season in the NFL, and I've been
Speaker 1: wrong about a lot of things at the end of
Speaker 1: tom Brady's career, but this one, I will pound the
Speaker 1: table on the football Kanya CENTI could take all their
Speaker 1: bits and stick them where the sun dn't shine. You're
Speaker 1: not paying attention, I will say, at least um, I
Speaker 1: hope this makes you happy. When we talked about this
Speaker 1: Tom Brady news, there were no none of those two
Speaker 1: jokes that I kept. There was a lot of Twitter bits. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I agree with you, Dan and I that news
Speaker 1: that popped up today, uh Tuesday as we're taping that
Speaker 1: there is a roast planned on Netflix for Tom Brady
Speaker 1: next year. Like it's all setting up, He's setting all
Speaker 1: these things up. I totally agree that this is gonna
Speaker 1: be it, and it adds It adds a fun element
Speaker 1: to this Buck season because it's a good looking Bucks team.
Speaker 1: They got a chance to do it again. I hope
Speaker 1: he stays healthy. Alright, one more go ahead, mark Uh.
Speaker 1: This one annoys me because this has been happening for months.
Speaker 1: I understand that all four teams in the a f
Speaker 1: C West are juicy that they are all. If we're
Speaker 1: all in different divisions, they might each win those divisions.
Speaker 1: But when I'm hearing you know, oh, this could be
Speaker 1: the division that offers up four playoff teams or at
Speaker 1: least three. First of all, they play each other. We
Speaker 1: all know that that's gonna be a problem because when
Speaker 1: you have the inflated record, it's because you're the Packers
Speaker 1: playing the Vikings, the Bears, and the Lions in this division.
Speaker 1: These types of teams they are. But secondly, they also
Speaker 1: play the schedule. They played the NFC West on top
Speaker 1: of it. Now, I know the NFC West with you know,
Speaker 1: Seattle situation, Arizona up and down, but like they were
Speaker 1: that division a year ago and they didn't get three
Speaker 1: playoffs exactly. Well, I just think that the a f
Speaker 1: C West, I wouldn't be shocked if in the end
Speaker 1: they're all kind of same type records and you get
Speaker 1: one playoff team and maybe save that for the It
Speaker 1: could be one because it's it's I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: they might be better than the records. Three of the
Speaker 1: three of the four teams might be better than the record.
Speaker 1: Just pump the brakes on the blind optimism that there's
Speaker 1: four superpowers in that division. I think that's fair. I
Speaker 1: think that's fair. The Raiders look better on paper, but
Speaker 1: are really You're right, one of those teams we'll probably
Speaker 1: take a face plant and be totally disappointing. It's a
Speaker 1: little hard to predict because they no never the Chargers.
Speaker 1: That's a whole other pressing the charge. This is the
Speaker 1: year that they nothing could potentially go wrong for the
Speaker 1: Chargers every year since two I don't think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: but listen, so you're right, somebody will definitely start nap it.
Speaker 1: Who's the most likely team. It's probably the Raiders or
Speaker 1: war One of the teams loses their quarterback and then
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's some unknown to me, it's the
Speaker 1: Raiders because because the quarterback is Yeah, I like Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: but I trust the other three better. M Daniels can
Speaker 1: be gonna say, you're Russell Wilson. Slander can extend to
Speaker 1: this conversation, Greg if you want them. And I'm trying
Speaker 1: not to give out too many takes, alright, back up on,
Speaker 1: back off on good alright, that one does make sense
Speaker 1: to me. My last one Residents. I struggled with this
Speaker 1: one because it's like I was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what is the consensus right now? I don't know, but
Speaker 1: you know what is the consensus when you put some
Speaker 1: cold hard numbers two things, and that's fantasy football. So
Speaker 1: I'm putting on my fantasy football hat and looking at
Speaker 1: all these guys who are doing the best ball leagues
Speaker 1: in the off season. They're already they're already picking leagues
Speaker 1: right now with big money at stake, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at where players are getting drafted, and to me, that's
Speaker 1: as consensus as it gets. Like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the COGNISENTI, but it's the fantasy heads out there.
Speaker 1: And I got a lot of takes, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start and I'll go through him quick. Derrick Henry is
Speaker 1: the is the second pick. In the draft. What Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry's saying? What? What is happening here? They don't they
Speaker 1: just Greg's what? Yeah, I mean they don't have any
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. He we know about his usage over the years.
Speaker 1: He's turning seven. H Scott Pianowsky had this great threat
Speaker 1: of like running backs who do well in fantasy when
Speaker 1: they seven, like, it goes bad pretty often. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's gone, but that doesn't say much about that community.
Speaker 1: Does he should be going from the top ten? I
Speaker 1: agree with that, okay? And then there were some other
Speaker 1: ones like Davante Adams still has a first round producers
Speaker 1: should call on him. Sure, I mean I don't want
Speaker 1: this to be coming to a speed. Every episode I
Speaker 1: say something negative about the Titans and then Graver like
Speaker 1: sends it out to all his Titans. He's like, check
Speaker 1: this out. Gregg Rosenthalf around the NFL podcast is yeah that?
Speaker 1: Um Marcus Mosher, who I respect on Twitter, tweeted four
Speaker 1: hours ago, there's no reason Henry should fall further than
Speaker 1: number three in your fantasy like that. Henry was on
Speaker 1: pace for yards and twenty touchdowns last season. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: only about pace. When you broke your foot. That is true.
Speaker 1: That's the big concern. Will he wear down but over
Speaker 1: his last thirty and they're not gonna be leading games
Speaker 1: as much potentially maybe not, maybe not. BLUs mileek will
Speaker 1: is gonna be running the football a lot, that's true.
Speaker 1: Other guys that really stood out to me on this
Speaker 1: realm of being a little over over Davante Adams, Like
Speaker 1: why would his numbers go up in Las Vegas with
Speaker 1: Derek Cartent whatever in way more competition and now he's
Speaker 1: like a top ten pick. Clyde Edward, Hilary, we're still
Speaker 1: doing this with Clyde Edwards get drafted super high. And
Speaker 1: then because because because fantasy guys draft on opportunity, even
Speaker 1: in May, and they see the opportunity. But it's like
Speaker 1: someone else will come on that team and take those carries,
Speaker 1: or someone already on the team will take this because
Speaker 1: he's not that great. But I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: all negative. So two guys that really intrigued me that
Speaker 1: we're way too goow was Jalen Waddle still has like
Speaker 1: a late fourth round pick. Oh man, he's gonna load up.
Speaker 1: Tyreko is gonna hurt him, will help him. And Hunter Renfro. Similarly,
Speaker 1: I think people are digging Hunter Renfro way in the
Speaker 1: middle of the seventh round when it's like, no, he's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. That's the guy that knows Derek Carr
Speaker 1: the best, and he's gonna have more one a big
Speaker 1: flower to come all the way around on Hunter Renfro
Speaker 1: and now you're booking him for a hundred and eleven hundred.
Speaker 1: That was one of the worst um takes I've ever had,
Speaker 1: is dumping on Hunter Renfro was wrong. It was because
Speaker 1: you're white man with uh with receding hairline at one
Speaker 1: and again, Car and him have this thing, and early
Speaker 1: on he was forcing it, throwing him thirteen balls for
Speaker 1: like three for thirty three, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is the worst playing football. But quick Car knew what
Speaker 1: he was doing. All right, that's it. Good stuff. Dean
Speaker 1: Stewart Rosenthal, He's gotta go with Dean Stewart at this
Speaker 1: point he could still make He was on a podcast recently.
Speaker 1: I should send the link out. What was I talking about?
Speaker 1: Experimental classical music? So you know, all our listeners, does
Speaker 1: he have does he sound like you do? Does it
Speaker 1: have that Rosenthal? No, he doesn't I gotta hear that.
Speaker 1: Think you've met him, Dan, I don't think never did
Speaker 1: multiple times? You have multiple times? Yeah, Well at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl at Pizza Um, they gathering in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Theywood they hit it off, you know how. Mark just
Speaker 1: like there's just some people that are Mark people. The
Speaker 1: Connor or who we had last year. Last there's a
Speaker 1: lot of Mark people, but there was some sort of
Speaker 1: like Mark definitely likes Dean more than me. I mean
Speaker 1: that is a projection. I don't like. I I found
Speaker 1: deemed to be enjoyable. They just stay in a quick conversation.
Speaker 1: They had a connection Mark. Dean's always asked, oh, what's
Speaker 1: up with that? Mark? I really like that? Also didn't
Speaker 1: Mark didn't deny. It's fine. I I just don't want
Speaker 1: Greg walking around thinking that I could like them equally,
Speaker 1: like they were my children. Greg and Dean's like whenever
Speaker 1: we have a guest on the show, and then after
Speaker 1: about twelve minutes of conversation, Marks like, who do you
Speaker 1: like the best of us? It's like going on again,
Speaker 1: who do you think's the best athlete of us? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna who do you like better? Deaner Greg? I liked
Speaker 1: them equally, who would you rather he's only talked to.
Speaker 1: I would rather do one with because I know, I
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a spent for you know,
Speaker 1: I was. We were in each other's presence for probably
Speaker 1: seven eight hours this weekend. Um, you've talked to Dean
Speaker 1: maybe for twenty minutes in your life. He's already tied.
Speaker 1: He's already tied. We talked a ton, Greg. It was
Speaker 1: a group conversation. Gregg told some fantastic stories about well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into it, but um, those are
Speaker 1: some good answers, some good non answers to the lamestream media.
Speaker 1: You did there, That's right, all right, We'll be back Thursday.
Speaker 1: Mark is heading on vacation. Enjoy yourself. Thank you, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Will not be telling you. I thought
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna ask. I couldn't help myself until Thursday.
Speaker 1: Keep the call. S