Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast op Dude for a one
Speaker 1: year roubid deal with a guaranteed bang. Welcome from the
Speaker 1: Chris wa all sorts of issues from the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: podcast studio. Welcome to Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas,
Speaker 1: coming to you from a room filled with some heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Secli, Greg Rosenthal, and I only now just realized
Speaker 1: Colleen off the hook. I like doing the intro where
Speaker 1: you kicked the door in really good content, and yet
Speaker 1: I forgot this time. So congratulations Colleen Wolf to my right,
Speaker 1: thank you. This is a huge moment for me. I
Speaker 1: didn't get kicked out of the studio after I set
Speaker 1: myself up only to have to come back in and
Speaker 1: do a whole thing. And uh, it's been it's been
Speaker 1: a little bit of a rough start with the timer
Speaker 1: going uh right here off the show. You do have
Speaker 1: an offseason vibe about they'll quite quite great. I feel great.
Speaker 1: It's the summer. It's summer, Connie, and we are thriving.
Speaker 1: We're doing a lot of great stuff and having a
Speaker 1: really good time. And yeah, I wish that the summer
Speaker 1: never ended. And then the summer when you're saying we
Speaker 1: is it the Royal We what is It's Colleen and Connie.
Speaker 1: We're both working in concert. Like there's got ganzas in
Speaker 1: the mix there as like that was the question in
Speaker 1: the picture. And John and Blitzen and Dasher and the
Speaker 1: whole gang. Those are the dogs. What is Gonza's vibe
Speaker 1: in the current day? So he just got a haircut,
Speaker 1: so he is feeling great once the barber got a fade?
Speaker 1: Getting ready for vacation? Where is Ghani and Gonza going
Speaker 1: this summer? We're going to Greece and Cyprus. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: well that we have a group of like thirty Greeks
Speaker 1: that are going to Greece, So I'm sure what could
Speaker 1: go wrong? Really? Nothing? Wow, that sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Right now. You're in the what Mark refers
Speaker 1: to is the cell, the prison cell, the studio? What's up? Mark?
Speaker 1: How are you? Why would I? I have never called
Speaker 1: it that. I am proud of this studio. You do
Speaker 1: seem strangely nervous though about this particular show. I think
Speaker 1: we've probably done about podcasts, most of them in person,
Speaker 1: many where we're kind of flying by the seat of
Speaker 1: our pants, and yet this one it has you tense
Speaker 1: on June. We will get into why. But I was
Speaker 1: told minutes before we kicked off the episode that they're
Speaker 1: you know a certain amount of planning goes into these things,
Speaker 1: some more than others, right, and that if um my
Speaker 1: messaging is usurped by someone before I go and do
Speaker 1: my turn, which will you'll see how that works, that
Speaker 1: have come up with something out of thin air. I
Speaker 1: just got that message now, So now I'm feeling a
Speaker 1: little I knew you because Collie and I come from
Speaker 1: the sort of the family of preparation, maybe over preparation,
Speaker 1: and so when you're told like just has taken improv classes,
Speaker 1: So I think Colleen's gonna be okay, and I believe you.
Speaker 1: Today we are doing the glossary of NFL terms for
Speaker 1: the off season A through Z. We divted, we divvy
Speaker 1: it up the alphabet and yes, obviously because we don't
Speaker 1: talk about what we're going to talk about beforehand. That's
Speaker 1: for all those bogus TV shows that you watch. Never
Speaker 1: on this network, of course, but on so many other
Speaker 1: television shows. They have these pre production meetings and they
Speaker 1: are just filled with exact, beat by beat takes of
Speaker 1: what I'm going to talk about here's my take, here's
Speaker 1: your take, and then there's no there's no mix ups.
Speaker 1: You know, everything's covered, no snore. We are going live here,
Speaker 1: and if someone hits on your topic that you have
Speaker 1: later in the alphabet, that's it. You gotta pivot, baby,
Speaker 1: and you've gotta be quick on your feet. So I
Speaker 1: understand you're a preparation. Guys gonna melt down, and I
Speaker 1: absolutely respect how you go about your process for this program,
Speaker 1: but only if it doesn't get in the way of
Speaker 1: his process. Well, that's that's also accurate. Well, I believe
Speaker 1: it's very important to let the tugboat take us where
Speaker 1: we need to get. So I mean no disrespect by that,
Speaker 1: but just follow the tug boat and it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I do trust the tug boat. So so far we
Speaker 1: have Colleen going, what is the Royal We is that
Speaker 1: second person? I don't even know what that is? And
Speaker 1: then uh Dan going third person. This side of the
Speaker 1: desk is really on the summer. It's a summer of
Speaker 1: the side of the alright, So we're going a through
Speaker 1: z hopefully and under three hours. That was another source
Speaker 1: of consternation for Mark, the idea that this show might
Speaker 1: go a little bit long. We're gonna try to keep
Speaker 1: it feel like we're tasting certain pictures that not I
Speaker 1: just I think we were told by our by Justin,
Speaker 1: our producer, the Grave Digger, that last year when we
Speaker 1: did this, it did stretch on um to an ordinamate
Speaker 1: amount of minutes. And are we are we concerned with
Speaker 1: maybe tightening it up just a little bit or being
Speaker 1: to keep something, to keep it and we'll pull back
Speaker 1: the curtain in the tugboats Captain Chamber. And when there
Speaker 1: was initially a new segment on today's episode, I said, no,
Speaker 1: let's kill that. I love streamline it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I love what you did. It's tightened the show, dude you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not coming from a place of critiquing
Speaker 1: you or your leadership. And I'm not critiquing you. I
Speaker 1: was just stating simply what was happening before we started
Speaker 1: rolling today, A sense of anxiety emanating from you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I it wasn't hidden. I told you, that's not how
Speaker 1: I like to do this particular show. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: I'm not critiquing you. Is a lot like no disrespect,
Speaker 1: but because you are you are it is complete critique
Speaker 1: and disrespect mixed together. It's going to be a great episode.
Speaker 1: I can feel it. So let's get it going. Grave Digger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, try to keep us on on task, but
Speaker 1: really don't. Just luck with that. Yeah, let's just roll
Speaker 1: through it. I'll get us going with the letter A.
Speaker 1: And again this is I know some people like to
Speaker 1: um listen to every episode during the off season, our
Speaker 1: favorite listeners. Some football fans disconnect a little bit and
Speaker 1: then they jump back in people. Yes, um, So if
Speaker 1: you are one of those people and you happen to
Speaker 1: see this in our social media feed, uh and click
Speaker 1: in perfect, perfect decision, because this is going to give
Speaker 1: you a general idea of where we are in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What you need to know is training camp approaches, just
Speaker 1: the general vibe of what's going on in our league.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. It starts with A and
Speaker 1: it starts with a man who's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: players in the history of the NFL and my time
Speaker 1: watching our league. Um, A man that some people call
Speaker 1: fits Magic, but I prefer his original name, the Amish Rifle.
Speaker 1: Remember that Greg would say the real ones. No, I'd
Speaker 1: say that I don't remember that. I put that into
Speaker 1: a number of early NFL dot com story Do we
Speaker 1: have a fitzmagic clip or amish wife Fitzpatrick touchdown my sick, Yes,
Speaker 1: the famous Ryan Fitzpatrick second touchdown catch. I can't say
Speaker 1: enough about the way right stay today. He stayed in
Speaker 1: there taking heat all day with the hits he's taken. Well,
Speaker 1: when you can get we're still play about eleven oh
Speaker 1: seven this morning. I told Graves agger, hey, it'll be
Speaker 1: good to throw to a great like call of Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: Now that's not a big window to dig up the call.
Speaker 1: So the fact that we ended up with Trent Green
Speaker 1: partially on tugboat as well, But yeah, we got it
Speaker 1: one week seventeen nineteen, Brady's last regular season game as
Speaker 1: a Patriot, last second touchdown. Also, that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: It might be the last took us in the shallow water.
Speaker 1: That was the great the last great moment of his
Speaker 1: career that you could have gone. It wasn't well called.
Speaker 1: They didn't even hardly mention the face masks, So I
Speaker 1: was like, that was the player I looked. But the
Speaker 1: call did not resonate with anyone here or probably any
Speaker 1: of the listeners anyway. So Ryan Fitzpatrick, the Amish rival
Speaker 1: fits magic. I mean, he's not Amish if he uses electricity,
Speaker 1: which we know he does, but I get where they're right.
Speaker 1: It was a bit out of Harvard, of course. Played
Speaker 1: for nine teams across seventeen seasons. He announced his retirement
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Such a popular player and a productive player
Speaker 1: who seemed to get better in the talent of his career.
Speaker 1: Thirty nine years old, he suffered a bad hip injury
Speaker 1: in the second quarter of the Washington Football teams season
Speaker 1: opening loss to the Chargers in September. Had to have surgery. So, unfortunately, Connie,
Speaker 1: that's how his career ended. But it was almost fitting
Speaker 1: because he was kind of a fearless dude. He was
Speaker 1: never the fastest guy, the strongest guy. Uh. He didn't
Speaker 1: fit the profile of his starting quarterback in our league today,
Speaker 1: and yet he was fearless. Uh. And he was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch fearless, and he had this
Speaker 1: personality that everyone was attracted to, whether it was his
Speaker 1: teammates or us the media. I always loved him so
Speaker 1: much on Thursday Night football because he constantly gave us
Speaker 1: a good moment, whether it was post game, whether it
Speaker 1: was in the game when I forget what year that was,
Speaker 1: when he came out with the Hawaiian shirt on, unbuttoned
Speaker 1: all the way with his chest hair hanging out, and
Speaker 1: he's like, honey, I'll be home, Like stay up and
Speaker 1: wait for me. He was just the best. It's because
Speaker 1: they were going to bang. That's that's right. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of children, just like there's some people who
Speaker 1: aren't as good reading between the lines. I was trying
Speaker 1: to know you did a nice job to the crude
Speaker 1: manner in which you I was uncomfortable with the whole thing, greag,
Speaker 1: but go on, I love how like for like he was.
Speaker 1: He came in I'll always remember as a Mike Mart's
Speaker 1: greatest show on turf in its later days, like seventh
Speaker 1: round pick and immediately was like a fantasy guy who
Speaker 1: threw a lot of yards in that first season as
Speaker 1: like a seventh round rookie. And you said, you mentioned
Speaker 1: Dan how he sort of got better and better throughout
Speaker 1: his career, and that's true. But he did get that
Speaker 1: pay day back in eleven like for the bill when
Speaker 1: he got to when he got the big contract, and
Speaker 1: then he led the league in interceptions that year, like
Speaker 1: it was midway through the year, but he was always
Speaker 1: going for and I think there's a lesson uh there
Speaker 1: for some backups and some maybe like medium talent guys
Speaker 1: that like, especially at quarterback, you're better off playing like
Speaker 1: a Brett five or Ryan Fitzpatrick and going for it
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have some highs and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: get contracts based on those highs if you just play
Speaker 1: it safe, which he never did. He led the league
Speaker 1: in yards per attempt in eighteen as a member of
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, which is an era. I feel like people
Speaker 1: forget about with Fitzpatrick. Well that but that Bucks period
Speaker 1: I think was a pivot point to you where for me,
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick is someone who just became more and more
Speaker 1: comfortable in his own skin as his career went and on,
Speaker 1: more enjoyable, more at ease, more filled with joy. I
Speaker 1: thought he got better looking as his career went on,
Speaker 1: Like if you look at him early, he just became
Speaker 1: like he became more and more Ryan Fitzpatrick ESK and
Speaker 1: I yes, I enjoyed the entire journey. Two thousand fifteen
Speaker 1: season with the Jets was also a perfect snapshot into
Speaker 1: his career because he put that team on a magic
Speaker 1: carpet ride to get got them to ten and five
Speaker 1: on the doorstep of the playoffs, and then through three
Speaker 1: interceptions in the last game of the season against a
Speaker 1: bad Bills team to keep the Jets out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And like that was kind of him, Like you you
Speaker 1: lived with all those like daring throws he would make
Speaker 1: and when they went well, and when he got hot,
Speaker 1: he would be hot as a pistol and be like,
Speaker 1: this guy is amazing. But then he could like flip
Speaker 1: it and all of a sudden he would be a
Speaker 1: guy that turnovers over and over. Where are we on
Speaker 1: the on the clocks there? Just let me known here
Speaker 1: we're one letter through or so twelve times twenty six.
Speaker 1: That's that county the intro. But we've been on a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Three in twelve minutes. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: do believe it will be longer than Fitzpatrick deserves the
Speaker 1: respect mark. So well, we're gonna get you out of
Speaker 1: here as soon as possible. But Mr, you enjoyed broadcasting
Speaker 1: with you. But I'm really just under sixty seven minutes. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with myself Also I get it, all right, okay Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: and I guess this means he's going to Amazon if
Speaker 1: he retired, right or maybe not. Everyone is doing that.
Speaker 1: You've got probably inside information, we don't, but that was good.
Speaker 1: It's it's been mentioned that he's he's playked with Amazon
Speaker 1: and he will be you know, got it? Pivot. This
Speaker 1: came in a great text. It hasn't even been which
Speaker 1: would you like. I'm just playing along and I didn't
Speaker 1: know if Colleen wanted to share more about what she
Speaker 1: had as a scoop potentially scoop just annecting dots. All right, well,
Speaker 1: there you go, and I bet he'll be good. Aheah,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Be is for blitz In. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the name of my dog. But also it's what
Speaker 1: the Giants would like to do next season. A lot
Speaker 1: of a departure completely from what they did the previous
Speaker 1: season with Patrick Graham, a more conservative approach he had.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they have the personality to
Speaker 1: pull it off all of the blitz in that they
Speaker 1: want to do, especially without Dabrill Peppers we know, don
Speaker 1: wink Martindale. I don't know what to do with this. Name,
Speaker 1: because do I just call him wink Mark? All right?
Speaker 1: It just feels like maybe to do that's okay if
Speaker 1: that well, Colleen is basically saying she's considering declining, yeah,
Speaker 1: the option, and that's fine. I think that's respectable. It
Speaker 1: is his parents given name. I think, well, if everybody
Speaker 1: else is doing it, I think I have to do it.
Speaker 1: So wink is going to go to work a train
Speaker 1: in camp a lot of different Uh new his vision
Speaker 1: that he has here because last year with the Ravens,
Speaker 1: the secondary was completely ravaged and he couldn't really do
Speaker 1: what he wanted to do. So we'll see if they
Speaker 1: do a lot of blitz in next year, Buddy cavan Thibodeaux.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see if he makes an instant difference
Speaker 1: on this defense. Now, Connie, you famously hate the giants.
Speaker 1: I mean you're a Philadelphia family. You guys are um
Speaker 1: and you're passionate. Uh are you concerned about the giants
Speaker 1: at all? No, they're always on the radar because they're
Speaker 1: right there in the division, but not concerned. But it's
Speaker 1: a lot of change, some brash confidence from you, just
Speaker 1: a flat out no, men do not exist in your defense.
Speaker 1: Looks terrible. On paper, it looks like one of the
Speaker 1: worst defense in the league. Yeah, they added Cavan Thibodeau.
Speaker 1: That that's nice. I like when you add a guy
Speaker 1: like Link Martindale though to a defense that doesn't have
Speaker 1: as much talent. It's kind of like college football helps.
Speaker 1: You need a little scheme craziness, Like that's the type
Speaker 1: a team that you want to Wink Martindale. You might
Speaker 1: not want him with the Ravens anymore. They kind of
Speaker 1: didn't after after last year. It was a mutual parting
Speaker 1: of ways, but he was probably getting the boot. But
Speaker 1: I think he's someone that can cook up pressure because
Speaker 1: in the back end, their secondary on paper, I would
Speaker 1: say is among the worst in the NFL. Well, and
Speaker 1: their biggest move at the off season was cutting James Bradberry,
Speaker 1: who weeks later winds up with the Eagles. That's not
Speaker 1: how you operated could see him working though for him,
Speaker 1: Like he has a lot of experience wink Martindale and
Speaker 1: cooking up some pressure. He has Tibodo, he has Leonard Williams.
Speaker 1: It's like they're not they're not terrible, but on the
Speaker 1: back end it looks pretty rough. My little behind the
Speaker 1: scenes be behind the scenes. My wife works in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, and she was speaking to a high ranking
Speaker 1: UH person with a storied um in a storied comedy
Speaker 1: realm of the entertainment business, and they're having a conversation.
Speaker 1: Came up that I worked for this company and we
Speaker 1: do this podcast and she's and the person that my
Speaker 1: wife was conversing with, it was like, Oh, is there
Speaker 1: anybody out there and in the NFL that maybe would
Speaker 1: be interesting on camera? And immediately the one thing my
Speaker 1: wife has listened to on our show was the Cavon
Speaker 1: Thibodeaux interviews because I said, you're going to be interested
Speaker 1: by this guy this a few weeks back, and then
Speaker 1: Emily relaid this to the high ranking entertainment official and
Speaker 1: they're like, WHOA, Okay, I'm putting him on our radar,
Speaker 1: on our list a career builder. Now if they actually
Speaker 1: make that call, I think you should find a way
Speaker 1: to let Cavon Thibodeau know we will. That's where it started,
Speaker 1: because we're we could move from we went from what
Speaker 1: uh not from friends two acquaintances to this is like
Speaker 1: now that's friendship partners potentially commission there too. This is
Speaker 1: a great step before you move on to see about
Speaker 1: the Giants and how bad they were last year. This
Speaker 1: is from Jordan's ronnin Ran from ESPN. The Giants with them.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason I know, um be for buddies.
Speaker 1: The Giants were outscored seventy nine nothing in the final
Speaker 1: two minutes of the first half. That's real stuff. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be way more watching on Greg Roman is going
Speaker 1: to make them more. All right for Greg Rosenthal, Brian Dable,
Speaker 1: I always mix up for Bang earlier. They don't look
Speaker 1: like uh see ceremonial. And that's the type of one
Speaker 1: day contract that my guy inconvenient to with Frank Aar
Speaker 1: signed on. Now. Dan had sent me a text about
Speaker 1: a month ago when Gore initially retired. I was in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: He wanted me to send in like a voicemail message,
Speaker 1: and it was like, no, I don't want him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm here, all right. That was a real here's the reveal.
Speaker 1: It's not worth it. It's not going to be that
Speaker 1: great content. Uh And I was like that at some
Speaker 1: point I was sending it. He's probably right, right, That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. It was just gonna be I was
Speaker 1: gonna be like bang for like NonStop commitment to the
Speaker 1: show issues and Greg's like, now, I'm too busy to
Speaker 1: send it into into it in the mood. Plus, I
Speaker 1: think we could go stitch back many times where we've
Speaker 1: probably half retired, but I don't care. I'm really glad
Speaker 1: that he uh signed back with the forty nine because
Speaker 1: I think him and that team, um, you think of
Speaker 1: them together. And I think back to his rookie season
Speaker 1: when he entered the league coming off of torn a
Speaker 1: c O as a third round pick, and my whole
Speaker 1: thing with that he was a Hall of Famer in
Speaker 1: West and I would argue about this like six years
Speaker 1: ago before he was ever in the top three of
Speaker 1: rushing and now it just seems inevitable he was a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer because his peak was better than people realized.
Speaker 1: He was one of the five best running backs in
Speaker 1: the league immediately he was in All Pro in the
Speaker 1: second season that he was in the league, and he
Speaker 1: is the best running back I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: entire life at vision, which is just like such an
Speaker 1: important part of a running back, which is he's behind
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, he's looking at what it's in
Speaker 1: front of him, and he somehow knows in here. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he does where the hole is going
Speaker 1: to be, seeing steps ahead. Uh. And this was a
Speaker 1: guy people got on him like, oh his wonder Look,
Speaker 1: it wasn't how. He had a learning disability and he
Speaker 1: was one of the smartest running backs because of that.
Speaker 1: He always knew where the defense was going to be,
Speaker 1: always k exactly where to run. And I'm glad he's
Speaker 1: getting his foot and now he's in the front office
Speaker 1: in San Francis. Yeah, to ruin right now, right now. Though,
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Greg Roman. He was the perfect
Speaker 1: pairing with Greg Roman in that Hardbaugh offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was one. He was so fun to watch, highly physical,
Speaker 1: a punisher. Um. I'll never forget one night watching him
Speaker 1: on like a Thursday night football game at Irish Times
Speaker 1: or place, and there was a Seahawks fan in there
Speaker 1: who was they were destroying the Seahawks and this guy
Speaker 1: was just like shouting at the top of his lungs
Speaker 1: because he was alarmed by what the Niners offense was
Speaker 1: doing behind Frank Gore. And I just laughed at that man.
Speaker 1: I giggled at him. I Am always said they didn't
Speaker 1: win that Super Bowl, because people forget he had a
Speaker 1: monster game in the Super Bowl and he is the
Speaker 1: one with a long on that's set up the first
Speaker 1: and goal which ended with that Colin Kaepernick piece that
Speaker 1: will forever call Michael Crabtree not interference, Jimmy Smith forever.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, are you ready? Yes? D? What letter D? Alright?
Speaker 1: D is for dead presidents just like you have like
Speaker 1: a flash of panic and then you're like, I did
Speaker 1: we get that panic? Side glance for Mark on camera. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we can bring that back at some point. I'm
Speaker 1: having a weird day, Okay. D is for dead presidents,
Speaker 1: not aber jfk or George Washington of George Washington even
Speaker 1: existed speculation. But dollars, big bad, green rectangular dollars. D
Speaker 1: is for dropping dollars from the sky. That's what the
Speaker 1: dollars will be doing onto the lawn of Debo the destroyer.
Speaker 1: D is for do it soon, DIAZ for don't f
Speaker 1: this up. DIAZ also for Dan Hands is a truly
Speaker 1: professional broadcaster who I've learned to carry favor with during
Speaker 1: segments of this nature. That was perfect good paybo, keep
Speaker 1: them happy. Yeah, he's he's there, but they expect that
Speaker 1: he will be at the mandatory mini John Lynch basically
Speaker 1: said there is literally no way we're letting him anywhere
Speaker 1: else in San Francisco. You know one thing I've learned
Speaker 1: about John Lynch too, when he's in front of a microphone, uh,
Speaker 1: talking to the media, always the truth all the time.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance on another team He's
Speaker 1: not gonna allow debo to going. These guys are professional liars,
Speaker 1: all these dudes. For the most part, it's fair. Remember
Speaker 1: what Pete Carroll said about Russell Wilson like seven days.
Speaker 1: Remember what Mike Rabel said about a Jory's good grave
Speaker 1: during Brabel said that, like, why are you guys making
Speaker 1: the j Brown thing a story? It's so obviously not
Speaker 1: a story. Remember grave tickers live Instagram session like seconds
Speaker 1: after he was in his feeling for you, we gave
Speaker 1: him a little past there, all right, E. It's for extension,
Speaker 1: as in the around the NFL agreeing to an extension
Speaker 1: to remain at NFL Media and it's related subsidiaries. Look
Speaker 1: at us. Nobody's going anywhere, but you chose this as
Speaker 1: the song. That's awesome. Turn this up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a rise. We definitely have a Price's dog,
Speaker 1: billion dollar man. He's staring at the scandal right now.
Speaker 1: I want to be associated with like Brett five has
Speaker 1: been implicated and in stealing money from welfare in the
Speaker 1: state of Mississippi. But it is great moment, This is great.
Speaker 1: It's been such a long ride with the NFL, um, Mark,
Speaker 1: you and I are starting in two thousand ten, Greg
Speaker 1: a couple of years later, the podcast starting up with
Speaker 1: West a year after that, and Um, We've been very fortunate, Um,
Speaker 1: mostly because of a loyal audience that we've built and
Speaker 1: held through the years too to get in a position
Speaker 1: where our conversations with the NFL and other places were
Speaker 1: interesting to us. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it just the NFL came to play and they and
Speaker 1: we felt like this was the best place for us
Speaker 1: moving forward. And I'm really excited, Mark, because like this
Speaker 1: is been a them to us for a long time.
Speaker 1: And the way this the last few months played out stressful,
Speaker 1: some anxiety, some of us more than others. Um. I
Speaker 1: was I was dealing with anxiety behind the scenes about
Speaker 1: how this is all going to play out, But it
Speaker 1: it played out in the end exactly how I think
Speaker 1: it should have for us and for this show. And
Speaker 1: I think the audience will be happy how this all
Speaker 1: plays out as well, I hope so. I mean, the
Speaker 1: audience is a huge part of it. It's been a
Speaker 1: wild journey. And I can think back to UM when
Speaker 1: Dan and I started at the NFL, a different location
Speaker 1: than this one, like a hollowed out sort of death
Speaker 1: star type office that was barely looking like a newsroom
Speaker 1: that Dan and I were working three days a week
Speaker 1: and making essentially what a high school person would be
Speaker 1: making it like a paper boy. Yeah, paper boy essentially,
Speaker 1: you know, throwing papers at someone's driveway in rain or shine.
Speaker 1: And uh, the lockout occurred. And the only reason that
Speaker 1: Dan and I weren't whacked um, because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of people that out let go, was that our
Speaker 1: salaries essentially probably didn't even appear on the payroll, so,
Speaker 1: you know, fortunate. And then Greg arrived in and West
Speaker 1: arrived and Colleen arrived and everyone else. Yeah. I Uh.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you hear NFL athletes and you know, when they
Speaker 1: sign like a contract, they like that that's often the
Speaker 1: biggest day of their career. It's a big deal to them.
Speaker 1: And I don't think we need to like deny that
Speaker 1: this is one of the biggest times of our career together,
Speaker 1: Like it really is meaningful that like we've been together
Speaker 1: this long and we really we're close and thinking about
Speaker 1: like what what are we gonna do uh for future?
Speaker 1: And it's like one of those moments, uh you think
Speaker 1: that you just got to appreciate. And you mentioned West
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons it's great to be here
Speaker 1: is every show Dan's gonna start it by saying we're
Speaker 1: here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. Now, there was
Speaker 1: a part of me that if we were gonna leave,
Speaker 1: I thought, well, West would actually kind of like that
Speaker 1: that studio is there. And then I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was exactly a loyal company man, but it was.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. And I'm sure we we all
Speaker 1: thought about this yesterday when we really you know, knew
Speaker 1: that this is what was going to happen. Was you know,
Speaker 1: it is one of the days where you really miss
Speaker 1: West because West came out here, um, and I had
Speaker 1: that relationship with him before Rode a World, and I
Speaker 1: always felt like him and I coming out here together.
Speaker 1: I had been working for the NFL for a year
Speaker 1: before was at least a little bit. I felt responsible,
Speaker 1: like he was taking a chance on this and taking
Speaker 1: a chance on on my word too, and that this
Speaker 1: was all going to work out. And obviously I know
Speaker 1: how like amazingly proud he was about like what we
Speaker 1: did as a podcast, so we all know that that
Speaker 1: came to fruition. But you you wish he would be
Speaker 1: here on a day like this to like really enjoy
Speaker 1: all of it with Kis. And people have different feelings
Speaker 1: about things like this, but you know, I've kind of
Speaker 1: felt like West, wherever he is, UM is aware that
Speaker 1: like this all happened so systematically Um after his passing
Speaker 1: that it changed everything and he would have been very
Speaker 1: proud this for us in for himself, he would have
Speaker 1: been proud. As one of the great things about him
Speaker 1: is I think he appreciated what he did have and
Speaker 1: he was proud of what we had accomplice and he
Speaker 1: would he would be really proud. I think of this
Speaker 1: moment we would finish today, we'd probably go get a
Speaker 1: beer somewhere and talk it out. So yeah, definitely glad,
Speaker 1: congratulations you're here for this too, because you have been
Speaker 1: as big a part of this one of the best
Speaker 1: days for me too, because you thank god you guys
Speaker 1: aren't leaving. I can't deal with any more change selfishly,
Speaker 1: like I can't lose any more people. Nobody is going anywhere,
Speaker 1: And you guys were my first friends when I moved
Speaker 1: across the country and started working here. So this show
Speaker 1: is like so much more to me than just work.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even feel like work. I would not be
Speaker 1: coming in to do the show during the summer of
Speaker 1: Connie if I didn't actually like being here and sitting
Speaker 1: with you guys and hanging out, because it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like work ever. And you know that absolutely factored in
Speaker 1: for all of us as well, like the idea that
Speaker 1: we'd be able to keep working with Colleen and Graver
Speaker 1: and everyone behind the glass and Matt Schneider and all
Speaker 1: the people behind the scenes that have made this See
Speaker 1: Henry and in the UK, he's leaving us here, but
Speaker 1: he's still in the company and so we're still together
Speaker 1: with him as well, so we're keeping the ship moving. Also,
Speaker 1: just on Friday, got a new company cell phone, and
Speaker 1: so that kind of that steered my decision because it's
Speaker 1: like I have to go turn it back in and
Speaker 1: then another one. Do you keep so? And again, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you to the listeners, because none of
Speaker 1: this is happening in our lives and our careers. If
Speaker 1: you guys weren't along for the even the lower tier
Speaker 1: ones that skip some of these whatever, they don't hear this,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Whenever you pop in, we'll take it all right.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what's going on with the show. Good good,
Speaker 1: good news. Let's take a break and continue in our
Speaker 1: three of the Around the NFL Offseason Glass Room. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move, let's roll. Here we go. We got that
Speaker 1: business out of the way. F Colleen, Okay, So I
Speaker 1: wanted to go with French fries, but I just like
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out a way to work it in. So
Speaker 1: instead I'm gonna go with fantasy, as in the one
Speaker 1: I'm imagining for Marcus Mariota. Now, I love a redemption story,
Speaker 1: I love a reunion, and this has both with him
Speaker 1: in art with Arthur Smith in Atlanta. After their time
Speaker 1: together in Tennessee, they desperately needed to add a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: The Falcons did after losing Calvin Ridley for the year
Speaker 1: and Russell gauge. So they drafted Drake London. That's great.
Speaker 1: They have Kyle Pitts, but guys, the rosters like the
Speaker 1: lightest on talent in the entire league. So this is uh.
Speaker 1: I fear what's to come for them? Another f word,
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's going to be I think
Speaker 1: of another word for Falcons fans watching exactly. So it
Speaker 1: is truly just a fantasy. I don't think unveil a
Speaker 1: red helmet throwback uniform. That's early period Dion that makes
Speaker 1: you think of that we can be beautiful. I do
Speaker 1: like him actually, And A. J. Terrell is the one
Speaker 1: that did A J. Terrell, who I really like. It
Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl quality cornerback. But it does say
Speaker 1: something about the Falcons right now. The A. J. Terrell
Speaker 1: is kind of their guy. They're going to to be
Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. Guy you took one of
Speaker 1: I was gonna make oh Olamdi you gotta change it, um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a little concerning. I this is the
Speaker 1: time of year you want to be excited to watch
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams surprises. Arthur Smith make this Mariota Uh,
Speaker 1: Drake London Pitts thing, watchable because on paper, Smith essentially
Speaker 1: was part of the reason that Mariotta was bench for
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee. So I don't know how long
Speaker 1: the leash will be when you have Desmond Ritter sitting there,
Speaker 1: but Arthur Smith last year, I know, Dan, you disagreed
Speaker 1: a little bit where Greg and I were coming with
Speaker 1: the Falcons. At times, he coached them up to wins
Speaker 1: they would not have been. That was a three win
Speaker 1: team that they want, Patterson, you want. But that's just
Speaker 1: agree that they were any good. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we were caught a little bit up in the
Speaker 1: they weren't. They were like the worst they should have
Speaker 1: They easily could have had the number one over I'll pick,
Speaker 1: and they managed to win seven games. That was a
Speaker 1: certain sort of okay. Um, speaking of Seas and their defense,
Speaker 1: we talked about Dion Jones, who was a bit of
Speaker 1: a mystery character. Um, a former star a young star
Speaker 1: for them in their Super Bowl year and what's his deal. Well,
Speaker 1: he's missing the team's offseason workout program after undergoing a
Speaker 1: procedure to fix a shoulder injury. Uh so, well, I
Speaker 1: think they want to dump that salary, right, so that
Speaker 1: is and uh, you know, obviously if he's got shoulder issues,
Speaker 1: never good, especially if you're a tackler of the football.
Speaker 1: Let's move on, well the football carrier, sure tackle the football.
Speaker 1: You could jump on a fumble or something, but let's
Speaker 1: keep moving. Greg ge fitting, I know, and you gave
Speaker 1: me the letter G, and I just thought I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head here. I'm just going
Speaker 1: Greg there it is. Where are the Greg's at these days?
Speaker 1: Once a great name and that that would be the
Speaker 1: definition here, like they've always hated the name Gregg, but
Speaker 1: like once a prominent name, a common name, now it's
Speaker 1: fallen totally off the radar, like G is a great
Speaker 1: letter at the very least, like return of the G.
Speaker 1: G unit nothing but a G thing, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even know some of them are famous pop culture references.
Speaker 1: And then you threw in your own nicknames. But I
Speaker 1: also think that's a great nickname. I mean, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: it's a good rap name. Six I'm not a rapper.
Speaker 1: That The point is, unit is such a good nickname,
Speaker 1: G unit, G just G alone is like a nickname.
Speaker 1: Not many letters that works with, but it does. The
Speaker 1: point is we gotta start bringing back the Greg's. We
Speaker 1: have Greg Newsome who's on the Browns, but there's almost
Speaker 1: no Greg's left the Horus. Greg was a great player. Um,
Speaker 1: but I just think after a while I looked, Greg
Speaker 1: is not one of the most the thousand most common
Speaker 1: names right now in the United States. It's not even
Speaker 1: on the list, and so I think it's time to
Speaker 1: start bringing back Greg. Don't you feel like the people
Speaker 1: I've told you how they feel about the concept of
Speaker 1: bringing I mean, if it's not in the top one thousand,
Speaker 1: they've kind of actually not the same way. Pretty much
Speaker 1: my whole life never liked the name. But now when
Speaker 1: I think about the versatility of the like me and
Speaker 1: Greg Williams are kind of the sixtys in the NFL
Speaker 1: sphere with the with the third G on the end.
Speaker 1: We need to we need to pick that up, We
Speaker 1: need to improve on things. I like it. I like
Speaker 1: how it ties into the offseason landscape of the NFL. UM.
Speaker 1: I think I think Greg's fine. I think it's a
Speaker 1: fine name. Now, names are cyclical, they fall out right
Speaker 1: of the picture. Mark's not going anywhere. Mark you Well,
Speaker 1: it's like when you know you go to those little
Speaker 1: let's your birth certificate. I want to know that it's
Speaker 1: marked with the safe for sure, the living me of
Speaker 1: the book, Like why would I lie to Edge? Edge
Speaker 1: a little ledge to you. I think it's got a
Speaker 1: French flair to it. Oh that's what old marks of
Speaker 1: French boy. Yeah, well he's really British. I don't know
Speaker 1: he spent his formative British. Colleen is not a very
Speaker 1: popular name. Damnit Check attacked it at one point on Twitter,
Speaker 1: saying it was a weird name. Maybe it's not connected, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it means girl in Gaelic, so it's not very original,
Speaker 1: all right. Would you say that it's not connected to
Speaker 1: the offseason? That's fine. I just wanted to bring it
Speaker 1: back and just just bring it back. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do more, though I don't know. Greg
Speaker 1: alson Greg Olsen is a good call that he's right
Speaker 1: now there are Greg's I think that is established. It's
Speaker 1: a tough situation for the grand community right now. So
Speaker 1: dizzy and campaign by who's your worst name? Like who's
Speaker 1: the word? Like for Greg it's Greg Abbott, Like who's
Speaker 1: like the worst Colleen? Who's the worst? Who worst? Justin
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about the worst, Dan, Let's get back
Speaker 1: to it. If you are. If you're stumped for your letter,
Speaker 1: you could substitute it with the worst version of your name,
Speaker 1: but that also takes thought. Well, that's I'm just giving
Speaker 1: you options. All right, Let's move on UH to H
Speaker 1: with Mark Cecil. Alright. H is for Hackett first named Nathaniel,
Speaker 1: the rare first year coach who I think will catch
Speaker 1: flak if his team with a new quarterback, do all
Speaker 1: offensive scheme and new defense, if his team doesn't roll
Speaker 1: into the a f C title game on fire. I
Speaker 1: like his cute little crush on Siara, like his past
Speaker 1: exploits as a hip hop instructor. I did everything about
Speaker 1: Mr Hackett's overall vibe, but I am slightly concerned about
Speaker 1: his ability to meet expectations in year one in a hostile,
Speaker 1: rough and tumble a f C West. It's funny you
Speaker 1: used him because I was thinking of using him for
Speaker 1: g Maybe it would have been better for the word garrulous,
Speaker 1: which would be defined and as excessively talkative, especially on
Speaker 1: trivial matters, and that and I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hockett in real life. But I feel like he
Speaker 1: is a guy when he's in front of the microphone.
Speaker 1: Maybe the way his nerves come out is he just
Speaker 1: keeps talking a little more on things that don't really matter.
Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely true. Yes, And I love the
Speaker 1: word garrulous. I mean, I think it should be used more.
Speaker 1: I got a really good word coming up to so
Speaker 1: for sharing some like good underrated words like for future letters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a second, it's a big day for vocabularies everywhere. Yes,
Speaker 1: are we are we? Well? Where are we on the time? Okay?
Speaker 1: That was yes, that was she here because you specifically
Speaker 1: requested I say it on the podcast. A happy birthday
Speaker 1: to Christie Stapleton. She's not even back there right now.
Speaker 1: She went to get a little lunch birthday lunch. We
Speaker 1: did wish her she came in here and we wish Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he's aware. When when we did a show, was
Speaker 1: Mark and I Dan was was gone and I referred
Speaker 1: to like people that just were clearly checked out, not
Speaker 1: paying attention to the show and board by us like
Speaker 1: visibly that was it was Christie. Christie was right, So
Speaker 1: I like her. Randy shows he's behind the glass too.
Speaker 1: He's always paying attention. I consider it more plugged in.
Speaker 1: It's like, if we were better than she would have
Speaker 1: been enthralled. It was our fault, all right, And she
Speaker 1: turns by the way, right now, she's a kid that
Speaker 1: was for me five years away at from taking the
Speaker 1: paper boy job with the NFL, And that didn't happen
Speaker 1: to me until I was thirty six, So it was
Speaker 1: another full decade of lunacy before I think I was
Speaker 1: hosting a golf show. Oh you were, and someone I'm
Speaker 1: not saying who someone got in touch with an official
Speaker 1: on YouTube and put that behind a private wall of
Speaker 1: some kind, so now no one can access. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you have anything? Did no? Because that requires like a
Speaker 1: lot of effort, way too much effort for me. All Right,
Speaker 1: I and Jay are going to be together. You know why,
Speaker 1: Cone Because I got a little peek at your screen
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the same thing. Da. That works
Speaker 1: out because it's the same stuff here. So I then
Speaker 1: this is the word I like in transcendence. That is
Speaker 1: good for those not in the know, you know, those
Speaker 1: who know, No, Greg, you know, you know. It's a
Speaker 1: noun refusal refusal to change one's views or to agree
Speaker 1: about something and Connie, What is Jay like Seattle's off season? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate what they did shipping off the star quarterback
Speaker 1: and then they drew lock and ear moths. Gregs, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're wearing things, big things, your hands under the ear,
Speaker 1: the headset. I think that they probably have had the
Speaker 1: worst off season as any team. And I'm with you,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a loaded question considering what's happening this
Speaker 1: off season. But I will say that the refusal to
Speaker 1: change one's views for Pete Carroll, who's seventy one, seventy
Speaker 1: two years old, it's one thing to say, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm done with this Russell Wilson marriage, and and given
Speaker 1: the state of ownership and the sway of having the organization,
Speaker 1: this is my chance to get a clean break. I'm
Speaker 1: actually okay with that. Like, if you think you've seen
Speaker 1: the best of Russell Wilson, you think you could get
Speaker 1: a bounty back form, which they did, maybe not as
Speaker 1: big as some people thought. They would send him to
Speaker 1: Denver start over. But I just don't see the logic. Greg.
Speaker 1: It's the in transcendence of the idea of saying, all right,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna roll with these two just the guys,
Speaker 1: a couple of Jags, and it's like, you're gonna give
Speaker 1: away another year of the team and some expensive players
Speaker 1: in your roster and the remaining prime years of certain guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well. Number one, the team building process
Speaker 1: hasn't ended. I'm gonna leave them a possibility that someone
Speaker 1: else will be on their team at some point at quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I would really push back on both of you guys,
Speaker 1: especially Connie saying that they had one of the worst
Speaker 1: off seasons, because I like their off seasonally, Like I
Speaker 1: don't like what they're doing at quarterback, but I think
Speaker 1: if you put Russell Wilson on this team and what
Speaker 1: they've added, I think a lot of people would be
Speaker 1: saying I like this offseason. The two players that they
Speaker 1: added that are veterans in that Russell Wilson trade that
Speaker 1: are going to be starting for them. Shelby Harris and
Speaker 1: Noah are good players at what are now good positions
Speaker 1: for them. You have Will dis Lee as as the
Speaker 1: backup Titan. That's fine. I like their defensive line, like,
Speaker 1: I think they can do somethings Daryl Taylor. They bring
Speaker 1: in Shelby Harris, Uh, they have some young players that
Speaker 1: they like. They bring in Quentin Jefferson, Puna Ford out
Speaker 1: and Robinson uh the secondary things. Okay, I thought then,
Speaker 1: oh so so signing was a great one. Like he
Speaker 1: was the best player on the field in Week eighteen
Speaker 1: in that Chargers Raiders game that was not named Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: If he hadn't gotten banged up a little bit during
Speaker 1: that game, I think the Chargers might have gone to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I like what they did in the draft.
Speaker 1: I think Kenneth Walker is gonna be good. They draft
Speaker 1: for a running back in the second round with all
Speaker 1: of the other things that they needed to address. When
Speaker 1: you can get running back late, I can live with that. Like,
Speaker 1: I know that's an analytical thing and they had an
Speaker 1: extra pick, But if Kenneth Walker is the beast that
Speaker 1: a lot of people think he is on that team,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like like a lot of the
Speaker 1: best running backs in the league our second round picks.
Speaker 1: So like is are the Bengals regretting taking Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: or party that The offensive line I think also has promises.
Speaker 1: What I mean, they did some other things that I
Speaker 1: think gives them a fine but like from a bird's
Speaker 1: eye view, you don't. You're essentially handing in the season.
Speaker 1: If this is what they do at quarterback, you can
Speaker 1: you cannot pitch truelock to us as this we've seen,
Speaker 1: We've seen Drew Luck. We know what he is. I
Speaker 1: mean next yeary with all that, But like teams and
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's living in another era, but he's seen like
Speaker 1: teams do okay sometimes with lousy quarterbacks like Mitch Robisk
Speaker 1: he made the playoffs a couple of years ago. They
Speaker 1: could win nine games. But that's why it's a bad offseason,
Speaker 1: because you can make a bunch of moves that make
Speaker 1: the roster better. But when you essentially ignore, you trade
Speaker 1: away a franchise, Hall of Fame level quarterback in his
Speaker 1: prime and then don't have a really a replacement plan
Speaker 1: other than we have a philosophy that we believe will work.
Speaker 1: I struggle to get on board with that, and maybe
Speaker 1: it does work out. But even if like let's say
Speaker 1: everything works out. And also, I know you like Gino
Speaker 1: more than other people, so I'm sure as party Is says, well,
Speaker 1: can maybe work. The high level of Gino would be like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's the twenty third best starter in the
Speaker 1: league like scale, but is okay the whole? Like what's
Speaker 1: the pointing? Like if the best you can do here
Speaker 1: is nine and eight? Maybe, like are you really doing
Speaker 1: what you need to do as an organization or is
Speaker 1: this fully a transition here? And they have a bigger
Speaker 1: plan in mind and they're churning through this year. But
Speaker 1: I don't get the what this leadership is about. There's
Speaker 1: the chance you could get Baker Mayfield. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's a top ten quarterback himself, but there's a chance
Speaker 1: that they're not done at quarterback. Was this like an
Speaker 1: either or Russell Wilson or Pete Carroll? Because isn't can't
Speaker 1: you argue that it's a lot easier to replace a
Speaker 1: head coach than it is a top tier quarterback? I
Speaker 1: agree as banging that joum all All last year, And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is ownership. And there's
Speaker 1: been more reports coming out recently that this team could
Speaker 1: be sold sooner than later. That the Portland Trailblazers, which
Speaker 1: Jody allen Uh who took over for for the deceased
Speaker 1: Paul allen Uh, it's supposedly going to be selling and
Speaker 1: they've they're like denying this publicly, but usually when this
Speaker 1: starts coming out, it really felt like ownership didn't want
Speaker 1: to shake things up, and they chose Carol over Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: which is well, Wilson wanted to You said deceased. That's heavy.
Speaker 1: It's a heavy word use. I mean, it's right. It
Speaker 1: just like came out. Why is that why I just
Speaker 1: was pointing out here? You know, I probably people aren't
Speaker 1: totally onto the late Paul Allen. Yeah, that would have
Speaker 1: been better. Ultimately I'm doing football show at a corner
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, it feels pretty physical. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move on. Greig being shaved. I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't feel shame. I mean, he could try. I don't
Speaker 1: feel shame in this choose to feel it in this case.
Speaker 1: I'm not alright, Greg, you are up on k all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go undertaker, Greg Rosenthal. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: kerfuffle word great word underused, And I think it's going
Speaker 1: to describe a little bit of what might be happening
Speaker 1: behind the scenes between Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. And
Speaker 1: you know, you you're getting on me for sources, you know,
Speaker 1: not really I was just shining the light on a story,
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying there there are other sources out there,
Speaker 1: and some are maybe more reliable than others, but there's
Speaker 1: some there's some buzz going around from a different source
Speaker 1: of of the tension here between Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch,
Speaker 1: and some of it is playing out publicly, and some
Speaker 1: of it is a little more under the radar, Like
Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan's been hanging around a lot more, which is
Speaker 1: a little strange. And the John Lynch almost went to
Speaker 1: Amazon thing, which seemed like it might have been coming
Speaker 1: from the John Lynch side, not the Amazon side necessarily. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're dead last in cap space. They still have Jimmy
Speaker 1: g there, Nick Bosa in addition to Deebo. Samuel could
Speaker 1: be looking for more money. And I just feel like
Speaker 1: if things don't go well, there's a lot of tension
Speaker 1: and I think there's gonna be a kerfuffle here that
Speaker 1: could play out publicly. Allah, Bill Walsh and and and
Speaker 1: um some of his bosses over these. Kyle Shanahan came
Speaker 1: from that tree, Mike Shanna came from the tree. I mean,
Speaker 1: no one fought more with their owners and their g
Speaker 1: MS than Bill Walsh, like that was happening all the time,
Speaker 1: even during the good times. I don't see Kyle losing
Speaker 1: a power struggle. Me neither me neither well because so
Speaker 1: first of all, I mean, I think you pegged the
Speaker 1: trade Lance situation on John. I don't. There isn't a
Speaker 1: lot of ready to go down that road, like everyone's
Speaker 1: ready to just call that a bust and a mistake.
Speaker 1: It's so early as it doesn't they were maybe on
Speaker 1: different sides, and if it doesn't work out, it's not
Speaker 1: I think it gets pegged on Lynch more than more
Speaker 1: than Shanahan, because I would imagine that Shanahan was as
Speaker 1: high on someone like Mac Jones or a different quarterback altogether.
Speaker 1: And up so far it's not a bust, but the
Speaker 1: development of Trey Lance is going very slowly, and the
Speaker 1: fact that Jimmy g is still hanging around and his
Speaker 1: salary is somewhat insane. It's also not going away. It's
Speaker 1: like a reminder. It's like they're in a marriage basically,
Speaker 1: and they both had their sides and one got their way,
Speaker 1: and like the reminder of that decision is with him
Speaker 1: every single day. Also should just for context, they came,
Speaker 1: you know, within a fourth quarter meltdown of going to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. So this team has also
Speaker 1: had a lot of success, which I credit to Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan more than anyone else. I mean, he seems to
Speaker 1: be the guy that is the golden child. So anything
Speaker 1: that good happens is because of Kyle, and then you
Speaker 1: can pin everything else on the GM. That's just the
Speaker 1: vibe I feel that it comes, and it's from this
Speaker 1: room and from Twitter. But is that really true? Do
Speaker 1: we really know? I don't know. There's just like Jan's
Speaker 1: obviously a brilliant offensive mind. There's so much uncertainty with
Speaker 1: Trey Lance and then the new there's a lot of
Speaker 1: new faces on this coaching staff too, so you have
Speaker 1: a roster that is otherwise pretty stacked with talent. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird situation. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: L with Mark Seler. L is for lamar Mr Jackson,
Speaker 1: if You're nasty? Okay, that was dumb, looking to some
Speaker 1: like he's disengaged by the way he did write down,
Speaker 1: Mr Jackson, if you can without acknowledge that it was
Speaker 1: very stupid. That is a nineteen eighties song pop pop
Speaker 1: song by Janet Jackson. I believe I assume most would
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know. I don't think. Alright, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not twelve, I'm not twenty six years old. Uh
Speaker 1: to you know, looking to some Lamar Jackson like he's
Speaker 1: disengaged by not attending O T A s. But this
Speaker 1: broadcasting vehicle has taken the p o V that O
Speaker 1: T A S don't matter for guys like Lamar and
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I agree with that, and we do not
Speaker 1: wish to be tissed tissed by Mr Jackson the way
Speaker 1: he went after Chris Sims this week. Have a nice day,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. We wish you peace and joy right into
Speaker 1: the sun. Yeah, this story is less interesting to me
Speaker 1: than maybe some people. Well I really knocked that out
Speaker 1: of the park. Well no, no, I'm saying. I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's good up. Yeah, Like that's that's I don't need
Speaker 1: like the Chris Sims Lamar Jackson back and forth on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's it's nothing, Burger. I mean, it
Speaker 1: really is, Lamar Jackson. We'll see how his contract plays out,
Speaker 1: but he's it's not like he's gonna disappear from the
Speaker 1: team for mandatory minicamp, right, Like, isn't that the only
Speaker 1: thing that we also come out and say, like, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to get back and hang out with you
Speaker 1: all and work with you. So I do like the
Speaker 1: part where the tweets started with quote Lamar wants to
Speaker 1: be Lamar Chris, which I just that right under the
Speaker 1: name Lamar Jackson because that's his Twitter handle. Is just
Speaker 1: fun but just I enjoyed it. Um, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess get back to me. If all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: mandatory camp starts. Once mandatory camp, that's that's. That's in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. It depends on the team. It's
Speaker 1: either next week or the week after. The coaches are
Speaker 1: putting on a little more pressure though about it. Greg
Speaker 1: Roman mentioned how of the playbooks knew it would be
Speaker 1: good for him to be here, and so they're they're
Speaker 1: putting on a little Your wide receiver group is new.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to go down that avenue.
Speaker 1: But if he skips mandatory, it's the situation is a
Speaker 1: little strange, uh M. For Mike Trout. Los Angeles Angels
Speaker 1: star Mike Trout is trying to stay out of the
Speaker 1: fantasy football league issue between listen to this. You know,
Speaker 1: we hit this on Monday, and I was just gonna
Speaker 1: let the story go. But you should understand, if you're
Speaker 1: not a baseball fan, Mike Trout is basically the modern
Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle. That's that's the level of player we're talking about.
Speaker 1: And he's stuck on an Angels team that's bad every year,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of depressed his national viability. Is a
Speaker 1: popular athlete. But I will say this when we find
Speaker 1: out that Tommy Fan tells reporters on Tuesday that Trout
Speaker 1: was the commissioner of this league. Remember the take I
Speaker 1: had on Monday about the slap the kerfuffle. I was like,
Speaker 1: the guy who was wrong, who was in the wrong,
Speaker 1: was the commissioner of that league for not setting the
Speaker 1: i R rules strongly and not allowed which allowed people
Speaker 1: to circumvent and get cute. And I've seen it a
Speaker 1: million times in leagues I've been in. So it's on
Speaker 1: Trout to me. Fan told reporters that he is the
Speaker 1: worst commissioner in fantasy sports because he could have prevented
Speaker 1: the dispute by the two outfield is the same thing
Speaker 1: I said, Uh, and then uh, he's at Yankee Stadium
Speaker 1: Trout for a series this week, and they asked them
Speaker 1: about it during a rain delay, and Trout wanted nothing
Speaker 1: to do with it. I ain't talking about boy, I
Speaker 1: don't even know. You know, it's just one of the things. It's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's competitive. Every love fantasy football. Who doesn't
Speaker 1: um the rule here that I think the lesson here,
Speaker 1: Colleen is commissioners get your ess in order have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, you are the ones that are leading the
Speaker 1: entire leagues, even if you're the modern Mickey Mant, get
Speaker 1: it together or don't be the commissioner. That's what I did.
Speaker 1: I walked away, stepped down. Yeah, I mean, it's too much.
Speaker 1: It's like the most thankless job there is beyond like
Speaker 1: youth league umpire or referee. That's actually even more thankless.
Speaker 1: And they deserve our our thanks in respect commissioner. That's
Speaker 1: what about in the ancient times when the commissioner actually
Speaker 1: was in charge of like tabulating stats before it became Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember those days. I never did that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that was not so long ago, although very long ago.
Speaker 1: Like Trout follows me on Twitter, that that strikes me
Speaker 1: as odd. He's a big football fan. Maybe you should. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to brag. I just I'm surprised. How
Speaker 1: many people does he follow? Two thou four? Pretty good? Good?
Speaker 1: Doesn't follow me? Not a fan, you know, he's a
Speaker 1: Philly guy. He is. All right, let's I'm actually more
Speaker 1: suspicious of that than I am. Uh he follows I
Speaker 1: got it? Check it's not. I think it will end
Speaker 1: well for you. I think it's gonna be great because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the only one left out here. Does
Speaker 1: he follow you? Alright? Good? Come on the Mickey Mantle,
Speaker 1: Today's Mickey Mantle. That's come on. I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the most is the result? Not a good result
Speaker 1: for me. I could ask him to switch following me
Speaker 1: and switch you to follow you. He's just like a
Speaker 1: he just he just will do football. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: anything else. You know, when you throw that throwback podcast,
Speaker 1: he's just like you, unfo when he sees my courts
Speaker 1: of thunder, just unfollow us, you know, he just he
Speaker 1: wants a straight football. His Twitter account whatever, not good,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's he'll just put the name of
Speaker 1: the city he's flying to city out And then they
Speaker 1: had four emojis of a plane, New York, Texas. This
Speaker 1: is a thing. Oh my gosh, that's funny. Alright. Baseball players,
Speaker 1: you know, not known, not always for their gift with words,
Speaker 1: not always. Uh. I'll throw in one more m on
Speaker 1: a more serious note, and this is a again hat
Speaker 1: let's see these things, especially um. So young former Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Bears running back Mary and Barber has died
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty eight, the Cowboys said in
Speaker 1: a statement on Wednesday. At this time, the cause of
Speaker 1: Barber's death is unknown. Police in Frisco, Texas, said in
Speaker 1: a statement that they responded to a welfare concerned Wednesday
Speaker 1: in an apartment they believed to be leased by Barber
Speaker 1: and Um. They found his body. Um thirty eight years old.
Speaker 1: He was drafted in the fourth round the two thousand
Speaker 1: five NFL Draft out of Minnesota. Was a pro bowler.
Speaker 1: Um had some really big moments for the Cowboys. Released
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys after the two thousand ten season, played
Speaker 1: one year with the Bears. Ah, and we lose him
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty eight. Tragic, And then again,
Speaker 1: we've we've had too many of these stories. Any of
Speaker 1: these stories. You don't want to ever have to talk
Speaker 1: about it. But we've talked about three now in the
Speaker 1: space of a month. Um, former players losing their lives
Speaker 1: or current players far too soon. And I mean they
Speaker 1: were you know, he's dealt with mental health issues and
Speaker 1: they don't. They haven't as this taping, this closed sort
Speaker 1: of what happened and all that. But um, you just
Speaker 1: worry about a lot of these players in their post
Speaker 1: playing careers. I mean, this is a pattern that we
Speaker 1: obviously has been established that this game of football can
Speaker 1: create major issues, uh post rear what a player. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it is is so tragic that we lost
Speaker 1: them for listeners that weren't around when he was at
Speaker 1: his best. He had three straight seasons over eleven yards.
Speaker 1: But his running style was electric. Like I remember talking
Speaker 1: with West like back in OH A O nine about
Speaker 1: Mary and Barbara. He really was very similar to Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lynch before Marshawn Lynch little similar to our friend Maurice
Speaker 1: Jones Drew. The way that he could run and bounce
Speaker 1: off people was just so much fun to watch, and
Speaker 1: he was great in the passing game. He was like
Speaker 1: a perfect modern back where he was great on the
Speaker 1: goal line, great on third down, and there was just
Speaker 1: something about the energy that he ran with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know he only made one Pro Bowl or whatever,
Speaker 1: but if you talked to like x NFL players, he
Speaker 1: was often one of their favorite players. He was kind
Speaker 1: of one of those if you know, you know guys
Speaker 1: that just like real players, respected his game in such
Speaker 1: a way. Uh. He he was just a ball to
Speaker 1: watch at his he was so gifted, Like fourth most
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns in Cowboys franchise history. He had such a
Speaker 1: specific style greg that you just kind of described there.
Speaker 1: It's just so tragic that he was so young, thirty
Speaker 1: eight years old. I mean, it's just a really sad
Speaker 1: ending to his story. Um. And if you want to
Speaker 1: watch one clip that tells you so much about what
Speaker 1: he was running back. He has what's known as the
Speaker 1: most famous yard run in NFL history. It happened in
Speaker 1: a game against the Patriots in two thousand seven where
Speaker 1: they were backed up in their old goal line. Romo
Speaker 1: hands it off immediately He's in a swarm of trouble. Uh.
Speaker 1: He escapes through the back of his own end zone,
Speaker 1: rolls back out, breaks about five different tackles, including Junior
Speaker 1: say Out. Another player lost way too soon and then
Speaker 1: ends up getting out of the end zone and getting
Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage. It's check it out. It's
Speaker 1: all over the internet after this sad news. But Marion
Speaker 1: Barber uh dead at the age of thirty eight. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break. All right, here we go, We're back.
Speaker 1: We gotta start moving now, everybody, Uh, Connie and and alright,
Speaker 1: So nebulous is where I was going with the Jimmy
Speaker 1: G nebu loosh with the Jimmy G stuff earlier that
Speaker 1: his future it's very in Greg, it's a nice one. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Owners gone wild here, And I mean
Speaker 1: I I don't because they're they're serious topics, man. I
Speaker 1: just I think it's the old around the end league
Speaker 1: UM editor in me that I just feel like, if
Speaker 1: we're doing this show you we sort of have to
Speaker 1: cover this stuff, even if they're not fun uh to
Speaker 1: talk about, and at least just mention what's happening with
Speaker 1: owners uh in this league has I feel like it's
Speaker 1: been an especially bad year for owners. David David Tepper,
Speaker 1: the Panthers owner, is filing for bankruptcy, or at least
Speaker 1: his real estate UM company is filing for bankruptcy after
Speaker 1: this story that I've been tracking, and it's it's been
Speaker 1: interesting to me, and it's very complicated, so I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go on and on about it. But basically,
Speaker 1: they started building a facility in rock Hills, South Carolina,
Speaker 1: and it was half built, and because of an argument
Speaker 1: with the local government and that he's up building it.
Speaker 1: So it's like literally sitting there, it's like half build.
Speaker 1: They had already started it. They've been to the new
Speaker 1: Team facility, the new Team facility have been undergoing construction
Speaker 1: for a while and it's just there now. And now
Speaker 1: there's lawsuits and I'm not gonna speak an opinion on
Speaker 1: all this stuff, but it definitely, um doesn't look great.
Speaker 1: I mean if he's look if he was a different
Speaker 1: owner that's a little more high profile, Like imagine the
Speaker 1: New York tabloids how much fun they would be having
Speaker 1: with an owner that started building uh a Team facility
Speaker 1: and is advertised as the wealthiest owner in the NFL
Speaker 1: and then stops and then declares bankruptcy. Just like one
Speaker 1: little note like it's not tied to his the bankruptcy
Speaker 1: declarations with real estate holding personal to the pant it's
Speaker 1: not his personal money, and so it actually doesn't affect
Speaker 1: the Panthers at all. But it's kind of like what
Speaker 1: a rich guy moved to be able to go do
Speaker 1: what he did, declared Banker Glaria, financial expert in this
Speaker 1: room right now. But it's a famous, like super rich
Speaker 1: guy move to declare bankruptcy and you just think, oh,
Speaker 1: that must be really bad. But it's like one of
Speaker 1: his holdings and it doesn't even affect his day to
Speaker 1: day life on any level. But still it's not Greg,
Speaker 1: I guess the optics now and well, And meanwhile, they
Speaker 1: don't have they they've been talking about how their facilities
Speaker 1: need an upgrade for a long time and not enjoying
Speaker 1: their training camp set up, and so they're still kind
Speaker 1: of stuck in nowhere. So we we heard a lot
Speaker 1: of great things about when they changed ownership, and they've
Speaker 1: they've had quite a few hiccups in the last a
Speaker 1: couple of years for the for the Panthers, and then
Speaker 1: the other ownership story, which again I don't think we
Speaker 1: need to discuss, but it's pretty compelling, is that the
Speaker 1: US House Oversight Committee on Oversight and Reform as invited
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, our boss and Dan Snyder to appear at
Speaker 1: a hitting hearing as part of an investigation ind into
Speaker 1: the Commander's team workplace conduct. And there's been different talk
Speaker 1: about whether Snyder could lose his job, whether he could
Speaker 1: be voted. Well, the fact that they're asking Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: to appear in front of Congress, in front of this
Speaker 1: um as part of this basically as he's partly responsible
Speaker 1: for what's happened with everything going on there. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes and if they actually show
Speaker 1: up and what happens. We just George Stefanopolis. It's like
Speaker 1: late June, so that's a perfect time for you, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're locked in. There's no way they could get rid
Speaker 1: of us. Now, you know, like the outside the courtroom
Speaker 1: guy that just has to live. Remember like when the
Speaker 1: lockout was going on and they just had Burp rear,
Speaker 1: like sleeping outside. This is like a version of that.
Speaker 1: You'll get that. But you're going to be on the
Speaker 1: duty of like Snyder Goodell litigation. Constant updates on this show.
Speaker 1: It never ends with this team. This could be a
Speaker 1: permanent beat this team. There's always a story with this team.
Speaker 1: If we camp you down there to d C surrounding territories.
Speaker 1: And I do if if it ends up that an
Speaker 1: owner is essentially removed because of this whole thing, that
Speaker 1: is a shifting point in the NFL, because might be
Speaker 1: on that story Lesly, if you're telling Mark he's got
Speaker 1: to go DeCamp into the d C Virginia wilderness for
Speaker 1: a year or two, I feel like you might embrace
Speaker 1: that right to come out of it with a very
Speaker 1: boring book about the whole process. It's quickly on a
Speaker 1: next Alright P is for alright a feeling that Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson no longer needs to feel after taking over a
Speaker 1: low expectations Jaguars team with a potentially brilliant quarterback in
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and camp reports of Travis E. T n
Speaker 1: operating as a super juicy X factor. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: worst the first in the a f C South, but
Speaker 1: I feel like this team has been aggressively ignored this offseason.
Speaker 1: And why can't this Jaguars team, I know last year
Speaker 1: was an absolute disaster. Just to not be in that situation,
Speaker 1: you'd think they're already five or six wins better. They
Speaker 1: blew up the Bills a year ago they ended the
Speaker 1: cult season. There is some talent on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball. Why can't they have a little bit of
Speaker 1: fun in and why are they being ignored? Well because
Speaker 1: there the Jaguars and they've had the number one over
Speaker 1: i'll pick two years in a row, which is a disgrace,
Speaker 1: So they don't deserve a lot of pub However, I've
Speaker 1: been like gently tapping the drum on this offseason. Doesn't
Speaker 1: Peterson at the right time for this team? Yes, I
Speaker 1: think it was a smart, sensible higher Rick. I know, Connie,
Speaker 1: you are someone who has a nice relationship with Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: Peterson's great. Yeah, we we all hung out. He's like,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's a super He's the perfect head coach
Speaker 1: to take over for the Jags, especially after what they
Speaker 1: just came through. I mean, he's a word smith. I
Speaker 1: think the roster is a lot better. I think that
Speaker 1: they went into the last two years with the bottom
Speaker 1: three to five roster. I think that that excuse may
Speaker 1: be gotten. Like they look legitimately frisky, like in the
Speaker 1: front seven, and then you kind of go through each
Speaker 1: position group other than the secondary, they all look like average.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think this is the thirty first best
Speaker 1: roster on paper. I think they're getting the upgrading coach,
Speaker 1: and I think the expectations should be higher. And then
Speaker 1: it should also be said something that brought up a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks on the show a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: that they they've spent wildly trying to reconfigure the roster,
Speaker 1: and they they're putting themselves in a difficult cap situation
Speaker 1: down the road. So we gotta we gotta see some
Speaker 1: results this year, and then you need the front office
Speaker 1: to be smart. And I don't know if we but yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like they are in a much more, much
Speaker 1: more better situation to be frisky than certainly last year.
Speaker 1: With that joke of a coach Peterson taking over for
Speaker 1: urban Meyer reminds me of of what Bill Parcels like
Speaker 1: to do, Like he didn't want to be the guy
Speaker 1: taking over for the guy. He wanted to be to
Speaker 1: the next guy. Not that the Jaggers have had many
Speaker 1: guys that that succeeded. You want to replace a co type,
Speaker 1: right or there's some coaches in this off season that
Speaker 1: are inheriting pretty good situations. There's more immediate pressure if
Speaker 1: they win six games. I think and Trevor Lawrence plays well,
Speaker 1: everyone's going to be happy. That's that's the expectations are manageable.
Speaker 1: Disconnects to yours Mark que for questions or queries on
Speaker 1: second year quarterbacks south of Quebec. Wow, look at you wait,
Speaker 1: say say Quebec again, Quebec. You could say Quebec or
Speaker 1: Quebec I say the real ones as Greg would say. No,
Speaker 1: it's Quebec. I just like the words smith here. Um.
Speaker 1: You would think, you know, coming off a big contract extension,
Speaker 1: would start phoning it in here, but Dan is going
Speaker 1: the extra mile. I'm also not saying that I say
Speaker 1: it right. I'm just saying that's how I say it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into some sort of Canadian clash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could just call her and put her on speakerphone,
Speaker 1: not let her know that she's one that would be better.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I'm gonna call Rachel. Every
Speaker 1: one should know is from our northern neighbors. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's see, hey, Rachel, what's up. Hey, we're taping the
Speaker 1: podcast right now, and we just brought up um uh,
Speaker 1: the one of the provinces up there in your native land,
Speaker 1: um q U e b e c correct pronunciation. We're
Speaker 1: looking for que you e b e Quebec Quebec. That's
Speaker 1: how I say it. But what about what about the
Speaker 1: theory some some have the theory that the real ones
Speaker 1: call it Quebec. Okay, o back, she's out on the
Speaker 1: mark side. I think it's pretty clear Quebec Quebec. Case closed.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Rachel, we'll get together after the show
Speaker 1: and I have a conversation. Okay. I think she said
Speaker 1: you're bold. Thank you, Rachel. Bye. Rage I'm I'm tema
Speaker 1: hands us on this one. I believe it or not.
Speaker 1: A third of my family, the chavs Klan, lives in Montreal.
Speaker 1: No way, ye Quebec. They say Quebec. It's clearly though,
Speaker 1: that's another Canadian we've just spoken to. Clearly not everyone's
Speaker 1: on the same page here. Well, I mean if they
Speaker 1: grew up in the area, so they have that accent
Speaker 1: they speak, they speak French, so it just it's just
Speaker 1: Quebec to them, you know, just kind like go anchor
Speaker 1: back to the point that I wasn't saying, look at me,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it right, I'm just saying that's how now.
Speaker 1: But Dan did say the real Ones said it the
Speaker 1: other day, so you just assumed that out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Did you repeopline because it was impressive? Oh cute for
Speaker 1: questions or queries on second year quarterback south of Quebec.
Speaker 1: It feels like a warm up, like a vocal t
Speaker 1: Lawrence dig into this, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Davis Mills. I'm gonna throw him in there.
Speaker 1: He deserves it is there has to be in the conversation,
Speaker 1: who do you think who do you most confident in?
Speaker 1: Makes that? Uh, you're too leap. Where are we standing
Speaker 1: right now? I think mac Jones is the one that
Speaker 1: makes the most sense because he was by far the
Speaker 1: most promising, But we can't ignore the Jones, and there's
Speaker 1: no Josh McDaniels, which I think is notable. That supporting
Speaker 1: cast is better. Do you still think Greggy that or
Speaker 1: do you think at all that Mac Jones is the
Speaker 1: guy most likely to have a nice year to jump? Well,
Speaker 1: the way the question is phrase, I think Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: is the most likely to have the biggest jump because
Speaker 1: he's coming from the lowest point. Along with Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: I would say they were comparable, though I would takes
Speaker 1: pretty ground up right now as well he is, although
Speaker 1: I really think Justin Fields was at a higher level
Speaker 1: for his start, showed more, had better statistically of the metrics.
Speaker 1: That's fair. So I think Lawrence is the safest bet
Speaker 1: that way, because I I think mac jones Is ceiling
Speaker 1: is much higher than people realize. I think he can
Speaker 1: absolutely the best quarterback in this class this year and
Speaker 1: have the best career. But this season, in terms of
Speaker 1: a second year leap, Lawrence, you have a lot to
Speaker 1: work with. I just even if he's like a little
Speaker 1: better than league average, that's a monstrous jump from where
Speaker 1: he was. You'd like to say, yeah, Zach Wilson and
Speaker 1: you talk about where you were last year and where
Speaker 1: there's a good environment around him. They did, they did
Speaker 1: a good job. They've now supported him surrounded Cats got
Speaker 1: another year in the same offense. If he doesn't take
Speaker 1: the next significant leap this year, they should be in
Speaker 1: the market for someone else next year. I feel That's
Speaker 1: how I feel about that situation. If mac Jones takes
Speaker 1: a significant leap, I mean he'll be one of the
Speaker 1: best eight quarterbacks in the league or so and and
Speaker 1: I think of him a little bit as a poor
Speaker 1: man's Joe Burrow, and I think they had similar rookie seasons.
Speaker 1: Obviously doesn't have the mobility like he already was like
Speaker 1: a league average quarterback. So if he makes another jump,
Speaker 1: he's like a top ten quarterback. I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to be Davis Mills just so this years crazy. He
Speaker 1: had never gets talked about, and he was better than
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. You're again if you just look at the
Speaker 1: terrible team, right, if you look at just the last
Speaker 1: five games of the season, which is a random sample size,
Speaker 1: but he was the best rookie quarterback and those five games.
Speaker 1: By then Mac Jones was taken on a little water
Speaker 1: and go and had some ups in his downs. And
Speaker 1: David smells flashed. Man. He doesn't look like like an
Speaker 1: under talented guy. That's like try hard guy. He looks
Speaker 1: like like he could have been a first round pick.
Speaker 1: All right, Connie, how much time? What do you have
Speaker 1: a heart? At one? We have eleven minutes with Connie.
Speaker 1: We're gonna finish this. Here we go quick, rad. That's
Speaker 1: how Davante Adams is going to look in his Raiders jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about him with Derek Carr, Josh McDaniels
Speaker 1: will constantly get him the bar, the ball, and maybe
Speaker 1: they'll be at the bar. Who knows. But I just
Speaker 1: think that Adams proving everyone wrong who thinks that he's
Speaker 1: not going to be as good without Rodgers is so perfect.
Speaker 1: Like twenty nine is the new twenty one. Everyone's thriving
Speaker 1: in their thirties now. Probably, Yes, that just blew up
Speaker 1: one of my later life. I'm gonna go super Bowl
Speaker 1: or bust. That's what Broncos receiver Tim Patrick said about
Speaker 1: this Denver team on Wednesday. And this is a situation
Speaker 1: where a new quarterback, a new head coach, a new
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and a team that hasn't had virtually any success.
Speaker 1: Um is super Bowl or bust? That is asking a lot.
Speaker 1: But if they're they're going to be led by one
Speaker 1: guy who will take it calmly. It's the coolest guy
Speaker 1: in the room. It's Russell Wilson. Just put my jug
Speaker 1: on for the first time, goes orange. Let's ride. It's
Speaker 1: not how he talks green screening it. Well, my boy,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Let's ride. There's a difference character.
Speaker 1: He's playing. Well, it's different in every video. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: There's the teammates one that was one, there's the but
Speaker 1: there's the one in bed. But there's also the cr
Speaker 1: like more in a public place, and that's that has
Speaker 1: its own. There's press conferences answering questions, which is totally different.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of different one platforming new slogans,
Speaker 1: like there's that version the corporate Russ. Uh, can I
Speaker 1: just hear him again? It's just like it seems like
Speaker 1: he's he's just acting. Yes, just put on for the
Speaker 1: first time. Let's ride green screening it. Well, my boy,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go. Let's ride. Baby. Let me know
Speaker 1: what we don't he's the coolest guy in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Now what if I what if I had a theory?
Speaker 1: It's just just isn't it possible at least that he's
Speaker 1: acting the rest of the time and this is act,
Speaker 1: this is the real Russ? Which I think. I think
Speaker 1: that like the press conferences, I guess there is more
Speaker 1: where I would be there for. I'm just definitely a corner.
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of Super Bowler bust. By
Speaker 1: the way, I agree they could win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: or they could be six and eleven. I think they
Speaker 1: have the biggest variants of maybe any team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There could be a bust. Is your theory that that's
Speaker 1: the most authentic Russell Wilson as is true. I think
Speaker 1: there's a possibility of that, that that's more Russell. I
Speaker 1: know you don't believe he's been presenting now, but that
Speaker 1: he's been presenting outward in a predominantly white world at
Speaker 1: NC State in Wisconsin for a long time. And think
Speaker 1: also there's the there's theffer complete brain. Like I think
Speaker 1: I've told you this in college, there was a baseball
Speaker 1: player that lived next to me and I he left
Speaker 1: for a week and he had plants, and so he
Speaker 1: asked me to go in and water his plants. And
Speaker 1: all around the room I mean not kidding, there were
Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifties self motivational phrases put up
Speaker 1: all over the place. And makes me think of Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: who seems just like slogan after slogan, Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: want to get on him for being you know, the
Speaker 1: cornball and all this stuff, and that's I think ultimately
Speaker 1: what it is. Everybody got cr and we end we
Speaker 1: can see that it is not his true self, Like
Speaker 1: we could see that there he's putting something it's not
Speaker 1: mean spirited honestly toward him or or it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he's not a good guy, because by all accounts he's,
Speaker 1: you know, an upstanding citizen and a good dude and
Speaker 1: a good teammate. It's just it's as a try hard
Speaker 1: ye I think that, Um, all right, let's where are
Speaker 1: we at? What was that? Greg? That was letter? Was alright?
Speaker 1: We're running out of time with Connie now t Mark alright?
Speaker 1: T is for Ted? Isn't Ted Carriss? Alex Cappa and
Speaker 1: lay All Collins the completely rebuilt right side of the
Speaker 1: Bengals oh line, A reconstruction. I don't think that has
Speaker 1: got enough attention and turns the sexiest team in the
Speaker 1: a f C North into a squad with no overt
Speaker 1: weakness and an absolute badass flinging touchdown darts to and
Speaker 1: fro and Joe Burrow. T is talk more about the
Speaker 1: totally unknown ceiling of the a f c's most interesting team.
Speaker 1: That's right. Remember when I used to say this and
Speaker 1: would get on the on the TV all the time.
Speaker 1: This is the most interesting team in the a f C.
Speaker 1: Stick in a commercial. Did you say it into your
Speaker 1: this is the most interesting team in the a f C.
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have this came is that we're
Speaker 1: due to take these new ones. So let me get
Speaker 1: one to man. This football action that keeps getting better, Greg,
Speaker 1: I think they'll win. That's the actual things that they say.
Speaker 1: They always take the most innocuous. Can't be specific about anything.
Speaker 1: My camera, I'm on the edge of my seat. That's
Speaker 1: a good one. Talking to the cameras aren't lighting up.
Speaker 1: There's no the cameras aren't working. It's just a it's
Speaker 1: our own vanity. They just tell us that none of
Speaker 1: us is actually being recorded. All right. I like that theory. Though.
Speaker 1: I like that theory. They're forget that their interesting. Their
Speaker 1: big weakness got completely short up. They also that was
Speaker 1: a magical run. Magic and there are different types of
Speaker 1: teams that go on magical runs and they're actually sort
Speaker 1: of better the next they have chance to be better.
Speaker 1: I'm not taken down the Bengals. They're a team, a
Speaker 1: fun team. Here we go, moving on. You are we
Speaker 1: at you? Yes? All right? I don't have much here.
Speaker 1: I was kind of stumped. Here. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: move quickly on usage trends at tight end. Just from
Speaker 1: rear bar a sharp football. Last season, NFL tight ends
Speaker 1: pass blocked at their lowest rate since at least aligned
Speaker 1: inland in line at their lowest rates since at least
Speaker 1: gained their largest share of league wide receiving arts. It's
Speaker 1: that did make me think about when we were doing
Speaker 1: our fantasy wide receiver draft, uh and we had phoebe
Speaker 1: Uh coming out with Kyle Pitts. Just like, if you're
Speaker 1: a team and I was rooting for a team for
Speaker 1: so long that was punting on tight end as a receiver,
Speaker 1: it's just like, no, you're behind the league. These guys
Speaker 1: are a big, big part of what they're doing. And
Speaker 1: it's not just it's not good enough anymore, just like
Speaker 1: oh he's a good blocker, it's not where the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: move on, Okay, all right, here we go. I can
Speaker 1: give you like ten more minutes just in cases if
Speaker 1: we're going to do it. V is for vacillate, And
Speaker 1: that's with Brady's relationship with football and retirement. He just
Speaker 1: keeps vacillating between the two. And the only reason I
Speaker 1: bring up this tired storyline is because he talked about
Speaker 1: it again on T n T last night after the match.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys watched this, but it
Speaker 1: was fascinating. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to watch the interview at least after That's what
Speaker 1: I mean. I didn't actually watch the math or match.
Speaker 1: I don't do golf, even though I hosted that golf
Speaker 1: show from the Internet. Did such a good job with
Speaker 1: facilitating the whole conversation. It was awesome. It was really
Speaker 1: cool to have them all together and really revealing. But
Speaker 1: Brady talk about retiring next year, and it's obviously going
Speaker 1: to be a thing that continues on for the rest
Speaker 1: of our lives, it feels like. But he was even
Speaker 1: kind of talking through the process of deciding to come back,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like he was spinning a little bit
Speaker 1: as he was talking, and so that in and of
Speaker 1: itself was really really revealing. I thought like he was
Speaker 1: taking us through how he started to sort of panic
Speaker 1: a little bit when he didn't say this, but you
Speaker 1: could tell in the way that he was talking about it,
Speaker 1: like when free agency was about to start, that he
Speaker 1: needed to make up his mind, and then as soon
Speaker 1: as he made up his mind one way, he felt
Speaker 1: like he made the wrong decision. And it was just
Speaker 1: kind of interesting to see him bring us in. There
Speaker 1: probably is no definite answer on what's going to happen
Speaker 1: next year, because I don't think he has a definite now. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: I think the football season itself will dictate whether he's
Speaker 1: any must come back where they win a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm out, you know he there was
Speaker 1: a moment that I just saw mentioned on there which
Speaker 1: I just loved, which is he they asked him about
Speaker 1: his TV deal and he said like he looked at
Speaker 1: that as his chance to give back to the game.
Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers are fun. You ever get paid so
Speaker 1: much for giving back? It's just like the perfect I mean,
Speaker 1: there are times when Aaron Rodgers is annoying, but I
Speaker 1: feel like he would be the perfect guy in a
Speaker 1: group of friends for that to be like to call
Speaker 1: your friend his bulls. Oh yeah, you're giving back for
Speaker 1: thirty seven billion dollars a year to talk about football.
Speaker 1: There was another clip they were sitting in the round
Speaker 1: and someone what's Josh Allen's the thing he fears most
Speaker 1: or hates the most. And then Patrick Mahomes like pipe
Speaker 1: vegetables a coin toss he was like and then it
Speaker 1: happened to me next week I heard Homes was fantastic
Speaker 1: on that. By the way, he was so good you
Speaker 1: I highly recommend watching it all right, Greg, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go wobbly, And that would be how I would
Speaker 1: describe the stats of Isaiah Win. Also in w On,
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots first round draft pick from four
Speaker 1: years ago, who's been up and down. PFF always loves him,
Speaker 1: but the Patriots coaching staff never seems to and he
Speaker 1: doesn't stay healthy. He's been skipping O, T, A S.
Speaker 1: And I would put wobbly uh to describe a few
Speaker 1: different little parts of this Patriots roster. But also Nelson
Speaker 1: Agilars placed on the team. I think this team has
Speaker 1: some team building to do between now in September. If
Speaker 1: there was a team that I think will look a
Speaker 1: little different uh than they do right now. I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots are high up there. They just seem like
Speaker 1: they have some big roster holes. They have some guys
Speaker 1: that don't quite fit. I don't know if Win is
Speaker 1: gonna be on their team. I don't know if Nelson
Speaker 1: Agler is gonna be on their team. I think maybe
Speaker 1: Donte Hide Tower will be back on their team. It
Speaker 1: just feels like there's a lot of weird spots. But
Speaker 1: that was gonna be their left tackle of the future,
Speaker 1: and and there seems to be some issue and they
Speaker 1: moved Trent Brown over there, and I just think I've
Speaker 1: been playing there in practice, right. I think about that
Speaker 1: report where and I, you know, not to harp on you,
Speaker 1: who's gonna call plays? Like these coaches can probably figure
Speaker 1: it out. I'm not overly concerned about that. It didn't
Speaker 1: work for the Dolphins, but there were players saying that
Speaker 1: practices seemed super discombobulated, and they were like, what on
Speaker 1: earth is going on? So when you look at Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to be set up to succeed. You've
Speaker 1: lost Josh McDaniels, who I don't know about him as
Speaker 1: a head coach, but he's a great Oh see. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a sense of hubris here where it's like, we're
Speaker 1: going to run into an NFL season with six coaches
Speaker 1: on our staff and no clear designation of who does what.
Speaker 1: Good time. This part of why Mac Jones stood out
Speaker 1: from the rest of the rookies last year is he
Speaker 1: was by far putting the best position of those other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So once again the track record again this is Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: So I I still side down like this is gonna
Speaker 1: be all worked out. But yeah, it's notable that things
Speaker 1: seem so clunky, and they were. They won ten games
Speaker 1: last year. Is the guy right now? He's kind of
Speaker 1: the offensive I feel like there is and I've been
Speaker 1: guilty of this in the past, but there's sometimes a
Speaker 1: a rush to throw dirt on the Patriots and then
Speaker 1: it's like there is too much talent. I agree. I
Speaker 1: agree with that part. They usually find away. But the
Speaker 1: roster looks they just have some weird spots in it. Defensively. Offensively,
Speaker 1: the aglar thing is they actually have enough good receivers.
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't need him. Wobbly x Mark. This is
Speaker 1: the one that I've just recrafted and rethought about because
Speaker 1: it was Deep six earlier. X is for XO. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not very good excess for EXO. Hugs and kisses.
Speaker 1: Kirk and O'Connell sitting in a tree, K I S
Speaker 1: S I n G. First come love, then comes marriage.
Speaker 1: Seems nice, But what happens when the games start? Are
Speaker 1: we buying this romance? You led us to the end.
Speaker 1: Now you needed a rhyme. There, pretty good. First comes love,
Speaker 1: then comes to marriage. Then it happened to when the
Speaker 1: games start, a whole bunch of cabbage. I don't know,
Speaker 1: is it? How about this? First comes probably about that,
Speaker 1: then comes marriage. But what happens when the games start?
Speaker 1: A broken carriage? There you go, I mean, what happens
Speaker 1: when you lose grip of the baby carriage? Well, that
Speaker 1: would be a problem to you know cousin. Cousins mentioned
Speaker 1: how like this is the first off season where he's
Speaker 1: had to truly learn a new offense in seven or
Speaker 1: eight years, which I hadn't thought about. He's really been
Speaker 1: in the same type of system. And it's even then,
Speaker 1: it's not that far off of where he was with
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh back in Washington and everything like that. It's
Speaker 1: very ramsesque, right, right, But he at least was saying
Speaker 1: it felt different. Maybe maybe that's good. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: too comfortable they'll go seven and ten or ten and
Speaker 1: seven and nothing in between and will not make it
Speaker 1: the play. So you could work in disparage. Maybe oh,
Speaker 1: I like that. I'll keep working on this and maybe
Speaker 1: po at the very end of the episode. Why for uh,
Speaker 1: you need to calm down. And I say that in
Speaker 1: reference to OTA reports on struggles and success. You know,
Speaker 1: we've talked on this for so we don't need to
Speaker 1: dwell on it. But I don't care. Some some JIBRONI
Speaker 1: sent me a tweet today just like Zach Wilson went
Speaker 1: one for five and so I guess you gotta bust
Speaker 1: on your hands. Anyway. Another reporter that I respect was
Speaker 1: reporting on an O T A goal line drill last
Speaker 1: week and the reporters were stationed in the opposite end zone.
Speaker 1: And if you've ever been and they're playing seven on seven,
Speaker 1: there's no at field level. You might as well be
Speaker 1: a submarine, like there's no viewpoint on what And yet
Speaker 1: you're using that as a reporting and you're writing about anyway.
Speaker 1: It's not on them. They they're there because football is
Speaker 1: so effing popular that the it will be consumed by
Speaker 1: readers and viewers and listeners. So I get that, but
Speaker 1: just if it don't get too caught up in it,
Speaker 1: neither good or bad. Like to of for example, UM
Speaker 1: went in front of the media today and was kind
Speaker 1: of bragging about a bomby through the Tyreek Hills, Like, guys,
Speaker 1: weren't there for that? You should have seen. It's like,
Speaker 1: I hope you could throw a bomb to Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: in a practice where there's nobody can touch you, like
Speaker 1: every everybody, just you need to calm down. This is
Speaker 1: just reps and guys getting ready for a long summer
Speaker 1: and season to come. That's a good P s A.
Speaker 1: I think that everyone needs to absorb that, right. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's a young reporters thing that they put
Speaker 1: too much on the O t s. Because you want
Speaker 1: to feel like your time is valuable. You're there and
Speaker 1: and I used to I used to write these like
Speaker 1: winners and losers of O t a s like whose
Speaker 1: stock is up inside? And then you realize, especially now
Speaker 1: because the practices are different than they were fifteen years
Speaker 1: ago too. It's not even practice. It's just like teaching
Speaker 1: sessions that there's nothing nothing. Everything is closing it out
Speaker 1: with Connie and the letter z Z is for Zamboni.
Speaker 1: Of course. It is machine that's used to clean and
Speaker 1: clear the ice at a rink. Almost gonna run over
Speaker 1: by one when I was covering high school high man.
Speaker 1: That would be right after the game, literally right after
Speaker 1: a game ended. I had to get across the ice
Speaker 1: into the locker room on sneakers and I was looking
Speaker 1: at my notepad. I swung the door open, took I
Speaker 1: was just about to take a step, and the thing
Speaker 1: from oh my gosh, we would not be yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be yes. It would not be good. Put it
Speaker 1: that way. Wow, that's that's a sliding door scenario that
Speaker 1: I get run over by a Zamboni at age twenty
Speaker 1: three for The Journal News. Death set by Zamboni is
Speaker 1: probably the worst that I can't think of it because
Speaker 1: ultimately people are counting the days until they can make
Speaker 1: hold on is like super loud to like, it's not
Speaker 1: like it's a it's not like a vehicle. The stands
Speaker 1: and you're busy and you're scrambling and you're just okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway I made it. There is the feeling of
Speaker 1: having fresh ice like all to yourself. There's not thing
Speaker 1: like if you are a skater. I'm sure it's the
Speaker 1: same thing for like hockey players too. And I feel
Speaker 1: like Maddie Ice right now has a completely clean fresh
Speaker 1: in Indy and the Colts are going to the playoffs
Speaker 1: after the Zamboni cleared up all of the Wentz mess
Speaker 1: and if Matt Ryan goes down or gets hurt, then
Speaker 1: Frank Reich has Nick Foles just waiting right there in
Speaker 1: the wings. It's perfect. I talked about this on Monday.
Speaker 1: This all feels overly pat uh And I get it.
Speaker 1: Nick Foles and Connie and Eagles fans you love that, man,
Speaker 1: I get it. But like it's like, we got the
Speaker 1: quarterback and if that doesn't work out, we got Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: you know, and we know what happened last time. It's like,
Speaker 1: you still need a lot of things to break right
Speaker 1: for this team to be better than it was last year.
Speaker 1: And uh, break Reich, I thought you were. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like Matt Ryan, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: they're going to be that much better? Like who's skeptical
Speaker 1: on one of those teams? When I went through the
Speaker 1: projected starters and looked at the whole roster, was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think Chris Ballard's done it again.
Speaker 1: Let's overhype the cults like Michael Pittman obviously, like who
Speaker 1: else do we like Jonathan Taylor. Unlike in terms of
Speaker 1: pass catchers, guys that are mean. It's it's a concern
Speaker 1: that Paris Campbell is your number two or I mean
Speaker 1: number three and Alec Pierce. They love the rookie second
Speaker 1: round pick, but it's like a rookie vertical second round
Speaker 1: pick your county on to be your number two. You
Speaker 1: got a couple of tight ends with mo Ali Cox
Speaker 1: and you drafted Gilanni Woods. But you're right, it's a
Speaker 1: bad receiver. They might not be done at wide receiver
Speaker 1: because like there's the Odell Beckham situation sitting out there.
Speaker 1: You could add someone still, but Matt Ryan can pretty
Speaker 1: much put it wherever he wants and then they's they signed. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no recovery. Now there is Stefan Gilmer that you
Speaker 1: know you can got Wight trade. I think i'd forgotten
Speaker 1: nice little group up front with Quitti Pay who would
Speaker 1: look pretty good. And Buckner's there. Let's say, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty really well for that team until they weren't anymore.
Speaker 1: But you know you need Matt Ryan to still be
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Manageable division. All right, well kind of you've
Speaker 1: taken over you know, your extensions you're gonna be late.
Speaker 1: What do you need to do pick up John from
Speaker 1: his barbershop or waiting outside the barbershop for ninety minutes. No,
Speaker 1: I have to take the dogs to that appointment. But
Speaker 1: it's like a logistic or they is there an illness
Speaker 1: or they just just they have to get like blood
Speaker 1: worked up. When you said blitzen blitz, seeing that the
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, I thought you were saying blitz
Speaker 1: in your dog who slept in a bed with we
Speaker 1: still do sleep. I do love how authentically those dogs
Speaker 1: are your children. Oh my god, they are. They're going
Speaker 1: to give them stickers when they get back from the
Speaker 1: doctor's bravery when they have surgery. I was sleeping on
Speaker 1: your couch and like one of your dogs, it was
Speaker 1: so dark I couldn't tell. Came and licked my nose
Speaker 1: and then left a little bit later. That was probably
Speaker 1: maybe so yeah friendly. Thank you, Colleen. You're welcome down
Speaker 1: for all that you do, for being part of the
Speaker 1: team both now and tomorrow. Congratulations again, guys. This is
Speaker 1: a huge day, and we celebrated with a bloated ninety
Speaker 1: minute episode of Around the NFL. But now you know
Speaker 1: what's going on. In our league as we had into
Speaker 1: the darkest part of the offseason. Thank you again to
Speaker 1: all the listeners. Thank you Chris Wesley, wherever you are
Speaker 1: our friend. Thank you Graver, Ricky tam Posey, I said,
Speaker 1: all the other people that have helped us through the years.
Speaker 1: He the call little Chunky. I call that a little
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