Speaker 1: Hi, guys. What's up? Motherfuckers? How are you? You know,
Speaker 1: from your camera on so I can see your beautiful face.
Speaker 1: Oh you want to see my face? Motherfucker? Okay, starting
Speaker 1: a little aggressive there. It is your background, blurred background.
Speaker 1: I like it because I've been having I've been okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing a pilot right now with John Cryer
Speaker 1: and he's very funny. And Abigail Spencer's very I know
Speaker 1: her too. Yeah, you guys the odds great in power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was in OZZ. She's a really nice person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we are, the three of us are doing a
Speaker 1: pilot together with Tom Werner. Believe it or not, remember
Speaker 1: Carcia Warner. Remember single Camp. It's sitcom multi Camp for NBC. Great, congratulations,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. And has to do with why
Speaker 1: you blurred your background. So I've been having to do
Speaker 1: all of these zoom meetings and stuff like that with
Speaker 1: the producers and some people from the network. And we
Speaker 1: had a table read in front of the studio, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want my wife's drapes dresses well, same shit,
Speaker 1: her drapes in the background, hanging in front of all
Speaker 1: of these people. So the funny thing is the algorithm
Speaker 1: is you can see, doesn't know what to do with
Speaker 1: your So it's it's so confused that they keep appearing
Speaker 1: and disappearing. All right, let me fix this. Yeah, unfix
Speaker 1: it because we know about your clothes. We're not a studio,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's where there are man. Wait, wait, congrats,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Are you having fun doing the pilot? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, it's a crazy thing because in this in
Speaker 1: this climate, you know, you would think that people aren't
Speaker 1: looking for sitcoms anymore. Well, they're They're always. Every time
Speaker 1: someone proclaims the sitcom dead, it comes back. You just
Speaker 1: need a good one. You know, people grew up on them,
Speaker 1: they love them. Friends is still with a new generation.
Speaker 1: The most popular TV show people love Seinfeld. You just
Speaker 1: gotta find you just need you know, if it works,
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah. So we're taking a swing at that.
Speaker 1: And I got one of the best to ever do
Speaker 1: it in John Cryer. Yeah, in the team, so he knows,
Speaker 1: he knows how to do it. And Michael Malley is
Speaker 1: writing it. So it's a it's actual. Do you have
Speaker 1: funny jokes? Are you hilarious? I think I have funny jokes.
Speaker 1: I think I'm funny. You know, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, when do you shoot the because for the audience,
Speaker 1: he doesn't know. Um, you know, you a sitcommon from
Speaker 1: a live audience. You rehearse for a week or maybe
Speaker 1: a pilot longer, and then you eventually bring in an
Speaker 1: audience where you have a live audience. In these will
Speaker 1: be in the covid Era, there will be a live audience.
Speaker 1: The trick is they're up in the stands and you
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of people on the floor anymore,
Speaker 1: so like you know, hanging out in in video village
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff that doesn't exist anymore, right,
Speaker 1: But at least you'll have real audience. You know, in
Speaker 1: the covid Era, they they were doing things like having
Speaker 1: just some of the crew up there, or they would
Speaker 1: have a fake laugh track. Um, you know, the fun
Speaker 1: of doing a comedy sitcom is having real people laugh.
Speaker 1: So that's that's good. You're gonna have that. When do
Speaker 1: you When do you do the taping on my birthday
Speaker 1: which is Wednesday? Business So I'm working on my breath.
Speaker 1: I love to work on my birthday. You know. If
Speaker 1: my wife can't come, I'm sorry, baby. You can't come either.
Speaker 1: They told you your wife couldn't come. Well, they're saying
Speaker 1: she can't be on the floor and she has to
Speaker 1: sit in the audience. I'm not trying to send in
Speaker 1: the audience. I don't. I didn't think you would want
Speaker 1: to do that either, So no, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's lame. Like I can test, I'll test, I'll do everything.
Speaker 1: I'll enter the protocol of the show. Well, this will
Speaker 1: come out the day before my birthday, So let's which
Speaker 1: is the day we shoot? What a nice present to
Speaker 1: get for your birthday? A pilot. I love working on
Speaker 1: my birthday. It's the best. It's I gotta think of
Speaker 1: what to get you. You wanted to really know what
Speaker 1: to get me? It's gonna be some animated saying that's
Speaker 1: I don't want to buy you. Okay, what is it?
Speaker 1: Is it something you're gonna be like? I need um
Speaker 1: there's a special rig for my animation. There is a
Speaker 1: special for a while a while ago, you wanted me
Speaker 1: to buy a Ah. You know this company control? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know a company that makes um an animatable? Is
Speaker 1: that the word puppets and uh? And they do likenesses
Speaker 1: and you have one the one that you always put
Speaker 1: on your Instagram is you, and you were saying that
Speaker 1: I needed to get me so you could animate us together, Yes,
Speaker 1: and do like the Scrubs. Pretty narcissistic. If my present
Speaker 1: to you was an animated puppet of me, it would
Speaker 1: be the best gift ever could I could do like
Speaker 1: the the I could animate the opening theme song for
Speaker 1: our podcast and put it on. All right, So, how
Speaker 1: much is it? How much is the puppet? About ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars? Shut the fuck up, I'm dead serious, man,
Speaker 1: I had to pay so much money for this puppet.
Speaker 1: I look, I'm not buying you a ten doll I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not buying you a ten thousand dollar birthday present.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask you to buy me a ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollar birthday I know. I didn't think you're gonna say ten.
Speaker 1: I thought you might say three. No, that's just not no.
Speaker 1: This is there a three version. Mine doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be as good as yours. These things last forever, one day,
Speaker 1: last forever. Listen to me trying to sell you on it.
Speaker 1: I'm Donaldson from the Puppet Animation Company. Your Zach Braf
Speaker 1: puppet would last forever. Speaking of animation. I'm taking an
Speaker 1: animation course with Ardmin right now, and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Man. Uh, you know, I got my animation,
Speaker 1: My animations begin, my beginnings over at Stupid Buddy Studios.
Speaker 1: And now I'm I'm I'm branching out into the Ardmin world.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill this flight. It's in my closet. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm branching out into the Ardmin world, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: kind of fun. I'm playing with plastic scene. I'm learning
Speaker 1: from you know, the top animators over at Ardment. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, you don't get to do
Speaker 1: that often. Well, you're you're doing something that's so it's
Speaker 1: so interesting to you in such a passion. But even
Speaker 1: even even if even that, just the fact that I
Speaker 1: was able to get into the academy is great because
Speaker 1: they don't let everybody in, and you know, I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. Well, that's awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: in New York. I'm coming home soon. I've been here. Hey,
Speaker 1: I was at the Tony's which was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You look sharp, by the way. It's nice purple blue.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I got so much love for that. Tucks.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I I used to be such
Speaker 1: a conservative dresser, but now I'm trying to spice it
Speaker 1: up a little bit and I have. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what them sneakers you had on at the freaking
Speaker 1: panel with Jordan Dirs. Dude, I got dunked on so hard,
Speaker 1: so hard. Dude, You're not only dunked on me, but
Speaker 1: you grabbed the back of my head and pushed them
Speaker 1: into your nuts. It was like, I want everyone to
Speaker 1: know that I didn't buy those sneakers. They were present,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't spend that much money on sneakers. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't buy dr Nikes, but they are. They were not
Speaker 1: Nikes or Jordan's. Okay, I didn't know the technic. I
Speaker 1: know they were just d or Nikes. I didn't know
Speaker 1: they were they were Jordan Lows. Is that what they are? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were very They're very beautiful. Yeah, I just wear them. Though.
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people who wear sneaker freaks
Speaker 1: would take shoes like that and put them in a
Speaker 1: glass case on the on the shelf. But I but
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wear them. I mean I don't wear
Speaker 1: them everywhere. I don't wear them dog park. Ye, please
Speaker 1: don't fucking work those like there, it's a taxicab. Please
Speaker 1: don't do that. We don't have Joel today because she's
Speaker 1: dealing with some personal matters, but we have DJ Daniel,
Speaker 1: who will step up with the extra extra mile today. Daniel,
Speaker 1: are you ready? I got my Google searches ready. I
Speaker 1: will not fail you this time. Oh, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to go back to my suit for one second. Um,
Speaker 1: I literally was. I said to them, this is my stylist, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go full Billy Porter, but let's
Speaker 1: do something a little bit brave and uh. And then
Speaker 1: I not only ran, not only ran into Billy Porter,
Speaker 1: who loved it and commented on it, but ran into RuPaul,
Speaker 1: who was like, oh my god, I love that suit.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my goodness, coming from you, what
Speaker 1: do you call this color? All night? I've been trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out? He goes, I think it's antique
Speaker 1: rose and I love that. Man. I'm literally like sitting
Speaker 1: on the on the sidewalk outside of Radio City Music
Speaker 1: Hall discussing what the exact shade of my velvet tuxedough
Speaker 1: is from with RuPaul. It was pretty cool, was it?
Speaker 1: Nice to catch up with Billy Porter. Yeah, I love Billy.
Speaker 1: You know, my career start with Billy and he's just
Speaker 1: with Broken Hearts Club and he's just taken off. He's
Speaker 1: on such fire with his career and he's such a
Speaker 1: good person. I just love the whole Broadway community. Man,
Speaker 1: it's such a they haven't done the Tonys in a
Speaker 1: few years. And to be invited to introduce Spring Awakening,
Speaker 1: which was a show I really loved, and be with
Speaker 1: all those actors and I just I just I love it.
Speaker 1: I've been here. I've been here seeing a bunch of
Speaker 1: Broadway shows, and I encourage anyone who has the means
Speaker 1: and in New York to see a Broadway show. It's
Speaker 1: a It's an industry that's really struggling um because of
Speaker 1: COVID and is trying to come back. And I just
Speaker 1: love it. I grew up doing it with my my father,
Speaker 1: going with my father and my parents's I've told you before,
Speaker 1: And there's just something magical about seeing live theater and
Speaker 1: m and being with all those people at the Tony
Speaker 1: was really cool. I have a you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know Billy Porter, but I you know, my buddy worked
Speaker 1: at the theater that five guys named Mo was at,
Speaker 1: and Billy Porter was the understudy for you know, the
Speaker 1: one of the five guys, right, And I remember seeing
Speaker 1: him in no disrespect to the dude who was doing
Speaker 1: the show, but I remember seeing the understudy and being like, yo,
Speaker 1: why is that the understudy? Right? And then and then
Speaker 1: in the same theater that my buddy was the usher at,
Speaker 1: I saw Grease and he played you know, the he
Speaker 1: did the number of Beau d school dropout. He does
Speaker 1: that number, yeah, and he fucking crushes it. Right. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to matinees on Wednesdays where there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the audience for these plays
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I'm telling you something right now,
Speaker 1: I just remember I've won. Billy Porter is such a
Speaker 1: part of my Broadway experience because of you know, the
Speaker 1: limited shows that I did get to see. He was
Speaker 1: in two of them, and he was so wonderful and
Speaker 1: he was so powerful. It was like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: he's in he's in insane talent and and and you know,
Speaker 1: when we were doing Broken Hearts Club together, he had
Speaker 1: he just had He's the ultimate example of a whiteboarding
Speaker 1: kind of person man. Nobody I know had more had
Speaker 1: bigger designs than Billy and big plans, and he's made
Speaker 1: it all happen. And I said to him, there day,
Speaker 1: I go you better. I hope you're resetting your your goals, man,
Speaker 1: because you've accomplished everything that we were talking about when
Speaker 1: we were you know, in ninety nine. You know you've
Speaker 1: made it all happen and more so, he's a great person. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get in the show. Donald count us in seven
Speaker 1: eight stories about show. We made a n stories yead
Speaker 1: around here yea around so last week it was cool.
Speaker 1: You guys got to hear the panel we did in Austin.
Speaker 1: We had a really fun time doing that, right, Donald
Speaker 1: was so great to see everybody. It made me miss
Speaker 1: miss them all so much because I see Donald and
Speaker 1: I see Bill, but I don't really see much of
Speaker 1: the others in real life that much. It's really nice
Speaker 1: to see It was great to see Neil, it was
Speaker 1: great to see Johnny. It was great to see Judy.
Speaker 1: It was great to touch them, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and and field their presence instead of just seeing it
Speaker 1: over his zoom. And then of course it was awesome
Speaker 1: to see Sarah. Sarah flew and early and the three
Speaker 1: of us got to hang out and in typical Sarah
Speaker 1: Chalk fashion, Yeah, she gets stuck in the elevator. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We were anticipating, like we told you guys, there's always
Speaker 1: some story, and we were anticipating, like, Okay, what is
Speaker 1: the thing going to be? And they were like there
Speaker 1: was no, there was nothing, and we're like, this is
Speaker 1: a little weird, Like Sarah has flown from Canada to Austin,
Speaker 1: Texas and has had no crazy story of or anything.
Speaker 1: Sarah chalk esk. And then we're all going, the three
Speaker 1: of us are going to dinner with my agent and
Speaker 1: and Sarah's not coming. We're like, where is she? Where
Speaker 1: is she? And we gotta FaceTime. We got one of
Speaker 1: those dual facetimes. And I'm stuck in the elevator and
Speaker 1: I'm claustrophobic in the elevator and I've and I just
Speaker 1: I just realized I'm claustrophobic. Yes no, but she wasn't
Speaker 1: like jokey about she just you guys, understand this. This
Speaker 1: hotel is nine thousand years old and the elevator stopped.
Speaker 1: I need you to tell that. And this hotel was
Speaker 1: so old, and it had so many different banks of elevators.
Speaker 1: So she's like, tell him, I'm in the one that's
Speaker 1: over by the bar, you know, like freaking out, and
Speaker 1: they couldn't find it. And then there were and then
Speaker 1: there were all these people that she kept pushing the
Speaker 1: emergency button and all every every panic button, and there
Speaker 1: were all these people asking me to sign Funco pops.
Speaker 1: And I was like, which, you know, by the way,
Speaker 1: I had only until Austin signed one Funco pop. And
Speaker 1: I want to tell the guy who I signed it for.
Speaker 1: That happened during the pandemic. Remember when we talked about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I've I've now signed nine zillion because those fans, the
Speaker 1: fans at the convention has dropped. Yes, I'm sorry. Your
Speaker 1: stock is like bitcoin, it is in the toilet because
Speaker 1: I signed a lot of them. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: say no to people I feel I want to. I
Speaker 1: want everyone to have a signed fun So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. When you signed those things for autograph
Speaker 1: seekers and you're signing a bunch of them, they're just
Speaker 1: gonna go out and sell your sick I know. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I can't tell or do I have
Speaker 1: the time to tell the difference between a genuine fan
Speaker 1: and someone who's just trying to make a bark. A
Speaker 1: genuine fan isn't going to ask you for your autograph.
Speaker 1: Yes they will, That's not true. Someone who loves the
Speaker 1: show and has a scrubs funko pop might ask me
Speaker 1: to sign it, as I did with the very first one.
Speaker 1: I agree with you that many of these people are
Speaker 1: just businessmen and women who are going to try and
Speaker 1: sell them on eBay. But what's it worth? Like ten dollars?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what. What I remember asking
Speaker 1: somebody for an autograph when I was a kid and
Speaker 1: then realizing after I got the autograph that what the
Speaker 1: fuck was I going to do with it? You know
Speaker 1: what I did? I went to a net. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to stare at that shit like I'm like, It's
Speaker 1: not a fucking iPad screen or iPhone screen where you
Speaker 1: just stare at it mindlessly. Like what I want to
Speaker 1: tell you A funny story. The first one of the
Speaker 1: first celebrities I've ever seen in real life was Cadeem
Speaker 1: Harris artisan Hartistan, Dwayne Wayne, Yes, Dwayne Wayne, and I
Speaker 1: was at a Nets game, and I saw him, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, a real life celebrity,
Speaker 1: not only a real life celebrity, the best celebrity. He
Speaker 1: was one of the best, okay, but he was at
Speaker 1: the height of his fame. And they had placed a
Speaker 1: guard next to him because so many people were bothering him.
Speaker 1: But I was trying to summon the courage I'd never ran,
Speaker 1: never seen a celebrity in real life, let alone, like,
Speaker 1: are you going to have the balls to ask for
Speaker 1: an autograph? And I did, and he looked so pissed.
Speaker 1: And when he scratched on that piece of paper, it
Speaker 1: didn't look like Kadem Hardison. It didn't look like anything.
Speaker 1: It looked like it looked like scribble. But the subtitles
Speaker 1: under the scribbles said fuck off, kid. Well, Kadem is
Speaker 1: a sweetheart and it is a great person. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure if you yeah, I'm sure, if you still wanted
Speaker 1: that autograph, he'd hook it up. Kadeem, if you listen,
Speaker 1: I would like a real autograph and if you could
Speaker 1: sign it more clearly. But let me tell you what
Speaker 1: they did. This is so dorky. This is this answers
Speaker 1: your question because I didn't know what to do with it? Right,
Speaker 1: So I brought her home and I was treating it
Speaker 1: like it was like like it was a gold bar.
Speaker 1: I didn't I well, the Charlie and the chocolate factory ticket,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how shoul I display it on
Speaker 1: my wall. So I put it in a ziplock bag.
Speaker 1: And then I put took a thumbtack and I put
Speaker 1: a thumbtacked it into the wall as like a display
Speaker 1: of artdeem Hardistan's autograph. If I had any friends over,
Speaker 1: I could brag that I had a codeem Hardistan's autograph.
Speaker 1: I didn't look like anything other than someone scribbling something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this weekend, this last week, So my kids in basketball camp, right,
Speaker 1: and he's at a spot where a lot of NBA
Speaker 1: players come through, and Kevin Durant was there right, speaking
Speaker 1: of the nets, and you know, I got to introduce
Speaker 1: my kid to Kevin Durant, right, And that was the
Speaker 1: moment where it was like, what's my kid gonna ask
Speaker 1: for from this guy? In my mind, I'm thinking, what's
Speaker 1: he gonna say to freaking Kevin Durant. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's gonna show that he's
Speaker 1: a fan, and so I go, Kevin, can I introduce
Speaker 1: you to my son and my kid? And he goes, yeah, absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: And the smile on Rocco's face when he meets Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant is like, it's the real deal. I wish I
Speaker 1: had a camera because you know how you want your
Speaker 1: kids to smile when they take a pick. Well, you
Speaker 1: guys don't know, but when you want your kids to
Speaker 1: smile to take a picture and they give you that
Speaker 1: fake shit, it always pisses you off. Right, They're horrible.
Speaker 1: Kids are horrible at fake smiles. Right, this is the genuine,
Speaker 1: real deal, holy feeling. It's beautiful. And I'm like, this
Speaker 1: motherfucker is glowing right now. Look at him right, look
Speaker 1: at him shining in front of Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: asked him a bunch of questions and everything, and then
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant looks down at his sneakers and he has
Speaker 1: on Jannis and to the Kompo's kids, and Kevin goes, yo,
Speaker 1: what's up with your kicks? Man? And Rocco. I could
Speaker 1: see in Rocco's face He's like, oh right, and Kevin goes,
Speaker 1: don't worry about a kid. I'm a blame your father,
Speaker 1: And I go, yes, yeah, I'll take the blame. I'll
Speaker 1: take the blame. Don't you know we went out and
Speaker 1: got to pay Kevin Durant. Yes, he signed a boy
Speaker 1: goes and runs in the kids. I wasn't even wearing
Speaker 1: he should be wearing the one's eyes on him. Well,
Speaker 1: you gave him the Lebron space jams man. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't wear those. Aren't those good? No? He could wear them,
Speaker 1: he had already outgrown those. Oh man, wow, does he
Speaker 1: want to wear my air d or Jordan? What depends
Speaker 1: on what size you are, but I'm sure he would. No,
Speaker 1: I'm in ten. He doesn't fit the ten. What size?
Speaker 1: He's little. He's a young boy. He's not that yet.
Speaker 1: Let's get in the show scrubs Donald Phase on My
Speaker 1: Words of Wisdom, written by Eric Weinberg and directed by
Speaker 1: Victor Nelly Junior. I thought Eric Weinberg had left by
Speaker 1: this point, and um, maybe I don't know, I guess not.
Speaker 1: Or maybe he left and came back to write one
Speaker 1: or something I forgot. Yeah, if do you notice George
Speaker 1: Wallace is back as the Preacher. I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: he was a recurring roll on its scrubs. I forgot
Speaker 1: that he was on before. But he's very funny. It's
Speaker 1: the preacher, yes he is. Other times he's every time
Speaker 1: we're in that church, he's the preacher. Okay, well he's
Speaker 1: very he did a very good job. And um, Jordan
Speaker 1: and has officially made a cox named the child's Jennifer
Speaker 1: dan Ak j D. Yeah, and and JD walks into
Speaker 1: the funeral rejoicing, yes, singing, it's a beautiful moaning. I'm
Speaker 1: not realizing that he's walked into the carrying of the
Speaker 1: casket and not being very sensitive to LaVerne's funeral, which
Speaker 1: is a big problem for Carla throughout this whole episode.
Speaker 1: She feels everyone in the hospital is just forgetting about
Speaker 1: Laverne a little too soon. I know. I remember feeling
Speaker 1: that with myself with with death. Every time a death happens,
Speaker 1: you you you are so upset, and of course you
Speaker 1: have grief, But then you see people getting back to
Speaker 1: their normal I live so quickly and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: it's fucked up. How quickly people move on? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: remember at some self help retreat or workshop I did,
Speaker 1: someone said one of the most powerful things I've ever said.
Speaker 1: Maybe I've said it here on the podcast, but they said,
Speaker 1: you know, when you die, people are gonna be very upset.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go to your funeral, they're gonna cry, they're
Speaker 1: gonna hold each other, they're gonna sob, and then they're
Speaker 1: gonna go eat lunch. Yeah. Yeah, and life goes on,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's I feel I remember with Nick's
Speaker 1: death feeling so guilty that I was like there, I
Speaker 1: was like on the treadmill and doing sit ups and
Speaker 1: like my life was just going on and I started
Speaker 1: crying one day. I was like, it's just so upset
Speaker 1: by how quickly, you know, people just start returning to
Speaker 1: the normal life. So my, my, that's a long winded
Speaker 1: way of saying I really identified with with Carlo's experiencing. Um.
Speaker 1: Granted it's exaggerated because it's literally like the day of
Speaker 1: LaVerne's funeral, everyone is, but you know it's a hospital.
Speaker 1: They go back to work. Yeah. Jendie imagines his own funeral,
Speaker 1: which was very funny. In his own funeral, he mentions
Speaker 1: that the gospel choir is singing party all the time.
Speaker 1: By Eddie Murphy By Eddie Murphy and Rick James. Bitch
Speaker 1: Oh they wrote it together. That's a Rick James song. Man,
Speaker 1: Come on bro oh, so you're saying he wrote it
Speaker 1: and Eddie just performed its. Nick James is even in
Speaker 1: the song. He's the one that Actra party she Axtra
Speaker 1: party down. Eddie Murphy was legit trying to launch a
Speaker 1: music career when we were young. He has some bops
Speaker 1: he has he has that Party all the Time is
Speaker 1: a bop. I'm gonna what anybody says, That's what I'm do.
Speaker 1: You remember Michael Jackson not so much? What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up with you? Was there a full album? I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I just remember up your butt, put a
Speaker 1: big house your butt? So was it a comedy? Was
Speaker 1: it was the album like a comedy album? No? He
Speaker 1: was really trying to sing. Yeah. See that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like I was confused. I remember being like I loved
Speaker 1: him so much, but I was like, is this like
Speaker 1: are these comedic songs or is he really going for it?
Speaker 1: I felt like he was really going for it. Party
Speaker 1: all the Time is a real gym that he was
Speaker 1: trying to put out. Dog that shit bops? Can I
Speaker 1: remember the video. I do remember the video. He's smiling
Speaker 1: and laughing with Rick James in the video many time,
Speaker 1: party all the time? I forgotten the song. If he is,
Speaker 1: if he's um upset about his girl wanting to party
Speaker 1: all the time, don't give a shit, he don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't know the lyrics to the song. If he
Speaker 1: if he's if he's against it or supportive of her
Speaker 1: desire to party all the time. Well, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that he's not. Really can you assess from
Speaker 1: the leader's celebrating if he's celebrate eating this, I imagine that.
Speaker 1: I imagine that it's an expensive habit and he's, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: party and it's dam he doesn't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: some night's honey, we gotta go home and watch TV.
Speaker 1: We're not going to be out drinking chrystal every night?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Daniel? Yeah, pretty much. I
Speaker 1: mean that's the the opening lyrics. Girl, I can't understand it.
Speaker 1: Why you want to hurt me? After all the things
Speaker 1: I've done for you. I buy you champagne and roses,
Speaker 1: put diamonds on your finger, diamonds on your finger? Still
Speaker 1: you want to hang out all night. What am I
Speaker 1: to do my girl? It's expensive having a girl that
Speaker 1: all the time. That's hilarious. All right, well then that's
Speaker 1: funny the picture. How about the picture at my funeral
Speaker 1: with my hands on my face? And then the casket
Speaker 1: is propped up because JD's final wish is to hug
Speaker 1: everyone one more time, and Elliott says, you were the
Speaker 1: only one I never faked it with. Again, this is
Speaker 1: Jad's you know, daydream, And then he finally gets Cox.
Speaker 1: It turns out within the fantasy, he faked his death
Speaker 1: right just to finally get Cox to hug him. And
Speaker 1: then Cox snaps his neck, so he's really dead. And
Speaker 1: then we come back and I turned to Kelson when
Speaker 1: I go, and then we'd have my real funeral? What
Speaker 1: are you an idiot? Like? No, sir, I'm a dreamer.
Speaker 1: Now what do you what do you call it? Like?
Speaker 1: Is a meme? I know what a meme is, Daniel.
Speaker 1: But if it's just like a picture with the dialogue
Speaker 1: that happened in that moment, is that still a meme?
Speaker 1: That's I think a gift is the one that's electrical
Speaker 1: right now, but it's just universal, like a meme is
Speaker 1: like any picture with the words on it. These days,
Speaker 1: it's to connote an emotion. It's like it's like the
Speaker 1: image is the the idea is the image in the
Speaker 1: text or whatever. It connotes a feeling that is universal.
Speaker 1: And okay, well that quote look at the big brains
Speaker 1: on Daniel Dan Well, Daniel knows his um the that
Speaker 1: that that meme is one of the most often scrubs
Speaker 1: memes I've ever seen. For some reason, someone at some
Speaker 1: point made it black and white and I always see
Speaker 1: me and kelso are you an idiot? No, sir, I'm
Speaker 1: it's a great line, it really is it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: ends the cold open. It's that funny um So, Carla
Speaker 1: again is upset. Everyone's moving on. Um Cox has decided,
Speaker 1: Oh because um the preacher. No wait, that was another
Speaker 1: funny part. Did we can I get an amen? Amen?
Speaker 1: Can I get a m m mmmm? Just go? Can
Speaker 1: I get amen? Amen? And then by right, that's where
Speaker 1: she got it from. From church, From church she got
Speaker 1: her famous um Cox's storyline is that he wants twenty
Speaker 1: minutes to himself. Oh because sorry, because the preacher in
Speaker 1: his sermon mentioned I want you to all find twenty
Speaker 1: minutes to to just for yourself so you can appreciate
Speaker 1: yourself right to do so, just to appreciate life, appreciate
Speaker 1: the appreciate you know, like you know when people it's
Speaker 1: it's a shame that we don't realize how precious life
Speaker 1: is and how much we need to check in with ourselves.
Speaker 1: Until someone dies. We run ourselves ragged, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Healthy? Yeah, we eat unhealthy, we freaking we
Speaker 1: we uh, you know, stress a lot. We put ourselves
Speaker 1: in situations that are very dangerous, and we don't realize
Speaker 1: that we're doing it until after somebody passes away and
Speaker 1: the preacher's saying, you know what this moment that you're
Speaker 1: feeling right now, this feeling of you know, she's too
Speaker 1: young to have gone, and note, you know, life is
Speaker 1: precious and you need to realize that every day and
Speaker 1: just take twenty minutes a day to to to check
Speaker 1: in with yourself and appreciate life. And so that's what
Speaker 1: Cox is trying to do. He takes that literally yes,
Speaker 1: um and um, and he gets it constantly interrupted throughout
Speaker 1: the episode, and he even builds a pantomime glass box
Speaker 1: around himself in the in the Doctor's what do you
Speaker 1: call it lounge and everyone and everyone comes and is
Speaker 1: constantly interrupting him, and Kelso's kind of watching the whole time,
Speaker 1: and he later calls him out on it, saying, you
Speaker 1: love it. That's your thing is stop complaining about you know,
Speaker 1: stop putting on this act that you your whole Your
Speaker 1: whole thing is that you love to be needed as
Speaker 1: much as as you are needed by these young people.
Speaker 1: You he calls bullshit on it. He's like, you love
Speaker 1: being needed, You love being the one they go to.
Speaker 1: You love being a teacher essentially, um, even though your
Speaker 1: whole stick is that you are grumpy about it. And
Speaker 1: it's also planning to see that he's going to take
Speaker 1: over soon and Kelso's not going to work at the
Speaker 1: hospital anymore. Yeah, I noticed Kelso was like, first of all,
Speaker 1: it was like Kels was reading paper a lot in
Speaker 1: this episode. And then he's later we'll get to it,
Speaker 1: but he's watching Keith and Elliott fight like it's a
Speaker 1: soap opera, and uh, it's funny because he could be
Speaker 1: in his office, but he's kind of like he's kind
Speaker 1: of like not doing anything really doctorally, but he's just
Speaker 1: just just kind of leaning back like a retired guy
Speaker 1: with his newspaper. He's he's already retired. In his mind,
Speaker 1: he's already retired. He's just he retire in the season.
Speaker 1: And the next season I think this is the Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well and the next season he's at the coffee bucks
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I think he might start to retire.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I also felt like they were softening him
Speaker 1: a tiny bit because he was he He wasn't a
Speaker 1: total prick in this one. He was. It almost felt
Speaker 1: like the strategy was, let's begin to soften him, almost
Speaker 1: like they were prepping you. You would you would kind
Speaker 1: of call that out, like, yeah, I think a while
Speaker 1: ago you'd said, like, at a certain point, they begin
Speaker 1: to soften him, to make him a likable instead of
Speaker 1: this fucking horrible racist personality and and horrible dude. They
Speaker 1: begin to soften his character a bit. I have a
Speaker 1: question Lonnie's still an intern dude, Like Lonnie still needs help.
Speaker 1: Hasn't Lonnie been there since the beginning with US? I
Speaker 1: don't think Lonnie ever progressed. He's like one of those
Speaker 1: like like seventh year seniors, Doug progress, Lonnie can't progrett Doug.
Speaker 1: Doug may have left his phone in a loma when
Speaker 1: he did the autopsy. Yeah, he might, he says, do
Speaker 1: you think if I call it? He goes, never mind.
Speaker 1: Let's speak for a minute. I say, Johnny Castle's wife
Speaker 1: just reached out to me because there's all of this
Speaker 1: hoopla about us doing a Scrubs reunion that we talked about.
Speaker 1: But Donald announced that the Uh I didn't announce that shit.
Speaker 1: Bill announced that ship. Well, it's so funny. We obviously
Speaker 1: you knew that. We knew that press. We're gonna write
Speaker 1: on it because they were there. But um, and we
Speaker 1: don't know what it is yet, but so um, but
Speaker 1: we did it right, So we don't. We don't, We
Speaker 1: have no idea what it is yet, but we all
Speaker 1: want to do it with something and we've been saying
Speaker 1: in so many words forever, but um, but Bill has
Speaker 1: now officially said it. And Hulu, you know, because it
Speaker 1: was a Disney show, a Disney property, it would likely
Speaker 1: be on Hulu or Disney Plus or both. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these
Speaker 1: fine words. Let's speak for a minute on cochlear implants,
Speaker 1: because that was a very is a very controversial thing
Speaker 1: and Joel pointed out that, and I didn't understand this.
Speaker 1: Actually the Sound of Mail. Did you see that movie? Donald?
Speaker 1: They have a that's an amazing film that I highly
Speaker 1: recommend down. Did you see that? I have not, But
Speaker 1: I'm a big risk fan, so I really wants amazing.
Speaker 1: That movie is brilliant and and and and expresses the
Speaker 1: debate on this topic in the deaf community better than
Speaker 1: we ever could. But I just did want to point
Speaker 1: out that we were a bit cavalier when we were
Speaker 1: in this episode about it, and so I just wanted
Speaker 1: to read one thing on scrubs WICKI I read, and
Speaker 1: then one thing that Joel sent me again forgive us
Speaker 1: because we don't know too much on this subject and
Speaker 1: we didn't write the episode, but just on Wiki, it
Speaker 1: says the subplot about the deaf child provoked ire in
Speaker 1: some deaf internet communities because it neglected to mention the
Speaker 1: debate surrounding cochlear implants the culturally deaf, a community of
Speaker 1: which the father seems apart, disdaining cochlear implants, regarding them
Speaker 1: as selling out into the greater hearing culture. In recent years, however,
Speaker 1: the deaf community has become more tolerant of deaf people
Speaker 1: with cochlear implants. Whoever, the story still presents some medical objections.
Speaker 1: There was no reference to an audiological consult, which would
Speaker 1: be necessary before any procedure could be undergone. Furthermore, ideal
Speaker 1: candidates are slightly younger than this boy who appears five
Speaker 1: or six. And Finally, audiologists still do not consider cochlear
Speaker 1: implants as an ideal solution, nor one appropriate in all cases,
Speaker 1: and it would be clinically irresponsible to go behind the
Speaker 1: father's back to get the child implanted, regardless of the
Speaker 1: visitation status. So yeah, even even not understanding that debate
Speaker 1: within the community, I was like, they're going behind the
Speaker 1: father's wishes. It seems that seems bizarre. Didn't it to
Speaker 1: you as well? Or no, Well, I don't know much
Speaker 1: about you know. I definitely think they thought they were
Speaker 1: doing the right thing by they thought that the child
Speaker 1: was being neglected, especially if you can make it so
Speaker 1: the kid could hear right now, The writers should have
Speaker 1: done a little research on the controversy of this, uh
Speaker 1: and probably had it explained a bit more to the audience,
Speaker 1: because like the sound I didn't really fully understand the
Speaker 1: debate until I saw the movie which I again highly recommend,
Speaker 1: called The Sound of Metal, in which it is pretty
Speaker 1: well discussed. But yeah, I think they they missed they
Speaker 1: missed it a bit here with the with the deaf community,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I think they were trying to
Speaker 1: shine a light on it too, and it just I
Speaker 1: think it just fell a little short. I would the
Speaker 1: going behind the father's back is the problem. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the mother, Like, first of all, the mother's not there.
Speaker 1: Like maybe if the mother was there and they had
Speaker 1: gotten into a debate about the pros and cons and
Speaker 1: JD and Turk had learned something that they didn't know,
Speaker 1: but they didn't learn anything. They didn't learn anything. No,
Speaker 1: they didn't learn anything. In fact, the father sort of
Speaker 1: acquiesces and said, I was just trying to hold on
Speaker 1: to our special bond and and and then we end.
Speaker 1: You know, so anyway, um, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I wanted to acknowledge that controversial subject
Speaker 1: and that we know about it and we didn't write it,
Speaker 1: but we see now how it could have been a
Speaker 1: little bit better for the audience and for America. You know,
Speaker 1: it was really interesting speaking of controversial that Obi Wan
Speaker 1: this week had a before the show starts. Wait, are
Speaker 1: you going to give a spoiler before that? No, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to spoil before the show starts. Yes, it says,
Speaker 1: the following episode may contain that's sorry, the following fictional
Speaker 1: episode may contain images that might be disturbing to viewers. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have never seen that before where they had to
Speaker 1: explain that a fictional episode of television something that's not
Speaker 1: real might That's like saying, when you go see Raiders
Speaker 1: at a Lost Start, at the end of the movie,
Speaker 1: something's gonna have heart will be pulled out. It's not
Speaker 1: a real heart, right, but wait, there must something there
Speaker 1: must have without any spoilers, there must have been something
Speaker 1: in the episode because young children are watching it? Is that?
Speaker 1: Why did you? Was there anything that you satan? Okay?
Speaker 1: So look, if you're a fan of Star Wars, you
Speaker 1: know about what happens to the Jedi, right, That's just
Speaker 1: how it is. If you know what happens after Revenge
Speaker 1: of the Sith, after Order sixty six, you know what
Speaker 1: happens to the Jedi, and you know that no one
Speaker 1: is spared, No Jedi is spared. If you've been watching
Speaker 1: Obi Wan, you know that no Jedi is spared. They're
Speaker 1: telling you, did you like the episode? Yeah? You know what.
Speaker 1: I genuinely like the show man, do you think? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Why will I get a Lego set?
Speaker 1: All I wanted? You'll definitely get a Lego set because
Speaker 1: that carriers pretty dope. Okay? No, will I get a
Speaker 1: Funko pop? Maybe? Shit? I don't know, motherfucker. I don't
Speaker 1: work for Lucas. I just want you to help me
Speaker 1: manifest it. I don't have a whiteboard here in New
Speaker 1: York whiteboard, Zach, you want me to write on my
Speaker 1: right this motherfucker. Now, I'm pushing it too far. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but no, but sincerely, man, So you know that there
Speaker 1: are things that happen in this world. This is why
Speaker 1: I love it. It really is a play on like
Speaker 1: the underground Railroad. It's a play on the Holocaust. It's
Speaker 1: a play on a lot of these horrible things that
Speaker 1: have happened to humans in real life, you know, and
Speaker 1: they've now brought it into Star Wars. Somebody also said
Speaker 1: that all of this is based on every episode of
Speaker 1: Star Wars so far up to episode six, and you
Speaker 1: can find similarity a similarity from the first episode all
Speaker 1: the way so far they'd be at Empire strikes back
Speaker 1: right now. It matches kind of like the what's going
Speaker 1: on in some way? Wow? Interesting. I met the writer
Speaker 1: when we returned. When I landed in JFK from Austin,
Speaker 1: I met the writer who wrote them all baggage claim
Speaker 1: and he I guess he was the TV Festival and
Speaker 1: I quickly reminded him that Frek was not dead. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the show. Donald Um. It turns
Speaker 1: out the janitor knows sign language fluently. We don't know how.
Speaker 1: He has a very elaborate story about befriending a gorilla.
Speaker 1: I think it was the Hoboken Zoo, was it, Yes,
Speaker 1: And they only had a few words that the janitor
Speaker 1: learned from the gorilla, and he used to give him cigarettes.
Speaker 1: The janitor would give the gorilla cigarettes and then gorilla
Speaker 1: died from lung cancer. Yes, And that the gorilla also
Speaker 1: he learned the sign language from the gorilla as he
Speaker 1: began to expand his vocabulary. That the gorilla liked big
Speaker 1: and his boobs, big and hairy. And then the Todd
Speaker 1: The Todd comes in and goes join the club player,
Speaker 1: he goes get out of here. That's Todd's only line
Speaker 1: in the show is commenting on liking hairy breasts. Do
Speaker 1: you know how many times he ran that line too? Yeah? Joined,
Speaker 1: the club player joined the join, the club player joined,
Speaker 1: the club player joined the club player. Joiner joined the
Speaker 1: club player joint, and then they're that's too big roun joint.
Speaker 1: The club player joined the club player. That's it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lock that in. I'm gonna lock that one in, yo.
Speaker 1: But he always nailed it, all right. So Elliott and
Speaker 1: Keith are at a crossroads. Yeah you know, um, and
Speaker 1: this is where the show gets weird because I thought
Speaker 1: she was going to break up with him, not because
Speaker 1: I like they're really in love. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The writers really made a decision. They were like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep her with Keith, We're not gonna start another
Speaker 1: relationship with her. But she and then and then and
Speaker 1: then was it was it Carlo who says, you're you're
Speaker 1: just doing what you always do since Jad hurt you,
Speaker 1: you're afraid and so you're running away. But I don't
Speaker 1: I their relationship is strictly based on fucking though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also like bizarre fucking. That's the whole storyline, is
Speaker 1: their bizarre fucking. There's another one in this one where
Speaker 1: they she's coming up with a whole elaborate they love
Speaker 1: role play. I mean they are deep into roll bloy.
Speaker 1: I love Elliot for that too. Yeah, it's Elliot's my
Speaker 1: type of lady, Yeah, Elliott. And Elliott's for the one
Speaker 1: who's like coming up with these elaborate scenarios. She's initiating it.
Speaker 1: She's really become very horny. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, so
Speaker 1: um sorr, I appreciate that. So so Elliott is Elliott's
Speaker 1: announces in the cafeteria that she's fine with Keith skipping
Speaker 1: their anniversary, and all the men in the cafeteria gather around.
Speaker 1: They can't believe this. They're like, what is Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't care, He's going to Vegas on your anniversary And
Speaker 1: they just can't believe it. And and Ted Lawyer says,
Speaker 1: if only you were forty years older. He has an
Speaker 1: old lady fetish man. Well, he's kind of obsessed with
Speaker 1: his mom, right, I mean, well, he's just obsessed with
Speaker 1: old ladies. It's his mom is his, His mom is his.
Speaker 1: He wants a woman just like mom, but he wants
Speaker 1: her the same age. Yes, yes, he wants her just
Speaker 1: like mom, Mom, if only you were forty years older. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he likes old ladies. Man like the guilt. He got
Speaker 1: guilt issues to each their own. Keith, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: is really not happy because he was a test. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go. It was a test to see
Speaker 1: how into the relationship Elliott really is and he feels
Speaker 1: like she failed the tests. Yeah, and Kelso's like, you're
Speaker 1: a nagger? And then out of nowhere Snoop Dog Residents
Speaker 1: shows up and goes, what do you call how you
Speaker 1: punk ass nagger? And he goes, are we cool and funny?
Speaker 1: That was so out of nowhere, by the way, and
Speaker 1: good good on snoop here He really didn't Yeah, you
Speaker 1: call you what do you call him? You punk ass? Hilarious?
Speaker 1: And then not long after um because Kelsa was making
Speaker 1: fun of them for being a you know, as a
Speaker 1: as a as a sexist old man. He was being
Speaker 1: saying that Keith was being the woman and Elliott was
Speaker 1: being the man. And when Keith finally walks out, he
Speaker 1: says to Elliott, bitches, huh, it's just funny coming out
Speaker 1: of Ken's mouth. But I mean, look, I'm sorry, Kens
Speaker 1: saying bitches is funny. I mean, look, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of inappropriate things in this show that are still funny
Speaker 1: to me. I'm sorry, I'm a human being. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. At least he's calling a man a bitch, right,
Speaker 1: But I can't not laugh at certain things. What Dan,
Speaker 1: Dan's making a face like, oh it's funny. No, it's funny,
Speaker 1: still funny. We don't have our we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: have Jowell. I thought I thought it was Buddy Um.
Speaker 1: So Doug may have left his cell phone in LaVerne's Corpse.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that um Elliott is uh afraid um and
Speaker 1: um and and then eventually is talked into saying hey,
Speaker 1: not talked into. She comes around to the feeling that
Speaker 1: that that Carl is right. She's afraid of committing because
Speaker 1: Jad heard her and uh and she summons the courage
Speaker 1: and tells Keith that she loves him, which I don't
Speaker 1: think she does, but that's just me. Well spoilers, we
Speaker 1: learned that she's still holds a torch for jd as
Speaker 1: she should, I mean, wouldn't. Um. Jady does well with
Speaker 1: the ladies. That's a that's real. Yeah, the character really
Speaker 1: really did well. Listen this song I love. I don't
Speaker 1: have my rig here, but maybe uh Daniel can play
Speaker 1: thirty seconds of Paolo Nutini's last Request. It's such a
Speaker 1: beautiful song. It really hits on this episode. Two yeah,
Speaker 1: shlow down down. Remember it's just you don't say bow?
Speaker 1: Remember how this used to I just want you go?
Speaker 1: So is that all right? Babe? Let's get clo It's
Speaker 1: such a bad album if you never heard it. Um.
Speaker 1: Paulo Nutini's first album that was like around this time,
Speaker 1: was so popular. Great album. But I got goose bumps
Speaker 1: when when when the voiceover says like LaVerne's Laverne was
Speaker 1: still present, you know, kind of eiding us all with
Speaker 1: her wisdom, and and then that song starts up and
Speaker 1: it was just really really pretty. Yeah. M I was
Speaker 1: gonna say this episode didn't make me laugh that much,
Speaker 1: you know, but that's an odd one. But it was definitely.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a bad episode, that's the thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess everybody needs a little bit of time to grief,
Speaker 1: and I guess this was our way of grieving the
Speaker 1: fact that you know, Aloma wasn't going to be around
Speaker 1: that much anymore. You know. I think we were always
Speaker 1: on the bubble, you know, and Bill's book about this before,
Speaker 1: like we were always on the bubble of getting canceled.
Speaker 1: We never knew, we never ever knew if we were
Speaker 1: coming back. It wasn't like, you know, sometimes shows get
Speaker 1: picked up like right away and you know they're going
Speaker 1: to get a season or two more seasons. But Scrubs
Speaker 1: was always on the little bubble. And I think Bill
Speaker 1: did it thinking that there was a chance this was
Speaker 1: our last season. And then he instantly felt bad because
Speaker 1: he said to Aloma, like, I just thought we were
Speaker 1: ending the show and we were gonna, you know, do
Speaker 1: something super dramatic. And he said, kind of off handedly
Speaker 1: to her, and you know, if we if we happened
Speaker 1: to get picked up again, I'll bring you back as
Speaker 1: your sister. And we all kind of laughed, like, no
Speaker 1: one's never gonna do that, that's so weird. And then
Speaker 1: sure enough we got picked up and he brought her
Speaker 1: back as Shirley Laverne, sister Shirley, and You're like, I
Speaker 1: can't I'll never remember that I'll never remember that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call you Laverne again. Yeah, I'm gonna call you
Speaker 1: lavern again. All right, listen, we have an exciting guest today.
Speaker 1: She is our genius costume designer that we've been plugging
Speaker 1: and promising to you forever. Carry Bennett. She did the
Speaker 1: ninth season. Donald, I don't know if she did, but
Speaker 1: she did. All yeah, we'll ask her. She did all
Speaker 1: the eight that I was a part of, and she
Speaker 1: I mean every single costume that was in a fantasy
Speaker 1: or you know, all the incredibly wacky stuff that occurred
Speaker 1: over this show. First, our first ever going out on
Speaker 1: Halloween costumes in real life. She made for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she took care of us. When it was time to
Speaker 1: put a big clock around Jad's neck when he went
Speaker 1: to the club and he said, man, it's only ten o'clock.
Speaker 1: I was Carrie Bennett. All right. So we'll be right
Speaker 1: back after this break with Carrie Bennett, the costume designer
Speaker 1: of Scrubs, and we're bad. You have the most exciting
Speaker 1: guests we've had in a long time. We should have
Speaker 1: done this long, long, long ago, but we're not the
Speaker 1: most organized group of people. Donald Donald does nothing. Donald does.
Speaker 1: No guest booking. It's me and Joel and H. That's true.
Speaker 1: I've had guests. Who have you booked on the show?
Speaker 1: Seth Green, your mom, your mom, my mom, I booked Seth.
Speaker 1: My mom was on the SETH was a standing for
Speaker 1: me when I couldn't come. And oh wait, I also booked.
Speaker 1: Uhhh yeah, thank you. So there you go. But um,
Speaker 1: we're so thrilled. Please welcome the costume designer for the
Speaker 1: entire series of Scrubs. Carry Bennett thunders, applause, Daniel, I
Speaker 1: do it. I did Carry? Where did I see you?
Speaker 1: Did you do in the season nine two or just eight?
Speaker 1: I did? And and I was a big giant pregnant
Speaker 1: lady and then I had a baby and I didn't
Speaker 1: do the last three episodes. I did the pilot and
Speaker 1: all the way and all the way you did every
Speaker 1: single episode up until the last three of season nine. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell everyone, Um, you know the We know they
Speaker 1: know the obvious, but a lot of our listeners aren't
Speaker 1: in the business, so kind of tell them, like how
Speaker 1: you do your job. Obviously, each week you're you're given
Speaker 1: a script and just you know, explain a little bit
Speaker 1: like what you and your team do because maybe some
Speaker 1: people are interested. Who wanted how did you? I want
Speaker 1: to know how you got into it is? Okay, really,
Speaker 1: let's go further back. How did you start? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: really you really want to go that far back? Well,
Speaker 1: don't cliff notes. We don't need to play by play, Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll give the cliff notes. Yeah. You know what,
Speaker 1: Actually I was a dance major in college. Maybe you
Speaker 1: guys didn't even know that. I didn't know that in college,
Speaker 1: but I was working in the costume I always knew
Speaker 1: how to sew, and I was working in the costume
Speaker 1: department and my teacher was like, you should do you
Speaker 1: have great energy, you should do costumes for TV. And
Speaker 1: then I, um, yeah, I went. I got my master's
Speaker 1: degree at cal Arts in costume design, and I moved
Speaker 1: to New York as people do. And what was the
Speaker 1: first show of that we would that people would know
Speaker 1: that you worked on? Oh my gosh, um The State
Speaker 1: Do you know that show? It was like a cult
Speaker 1: it's a cult classic, like it was on Comedy Central.
Speaker 1: I did a time. I've always done comedies. That's my jam.
Speaker 1: And how did Bill find you. Bill found me through
Speaker 1: Adam Bernstein, our beloved, a director of our pilot, who's
Speaker 1: u yeah, very who kind of initially set the look
Speaker 1: of the whole show. Had you guys worked together before?
Speaker 1: We did Strangers with Candy together with Amy Sedaris, another
Speaker 1: like CULTI Classic. We did that and it was super
Speaker 1: nuts and we just we just bonded on that because
Speaker 1: it was such a hard project to get through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we you New York based or LA Base. No, I'm
Speaker 1: from California. I'm a California girl. And yeah, I went
Speaker 1: out to New York and was out there for like
Speaker 1: six years doing shows. Um. I did Upside Upright Citizen's Brigade.
Speaker 1: It was one of my big ones with um, you know,
Speaker 1: Amy Poehler and Matt Walsh and all those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um and yeah, So I met Adam Bernstein, he did
Speaker 1: he directed some of those, and then we did Strangers
Speaker 1: with Candy, and then he came out to do Scrubs
Speaker 1: and I was I think it might have been the
Speaker 1: only costume designer he knew. So wait you came so
Speaker 1: you came back to LA from New York? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need the sunshine. Yeah me too. Yeah, I like,
Speaker 1: I like, I like the sun on my face. Because
Speaker 1: you're in New York right now. Well, I have to
Speaker 1: go back and forth. But the sun is out here
Speaker 1: in New York. I just mean, I don't like, I
Speaker 1: could never live it's really out here in California right now.
Speaker 1: It's really really extra out It's really out now. Carry
Speaker 1: some might think, you know, when you got the assignment,
Speaker 1: did you think, well, this is going to be challenging
Speaker 1: because obviously there's a lot of doctor's clothes and scrubs,
Speaker 1: but you had all these elaborate, crazy fantasies and that
Speaker 1: was going to be the fun challenge for for a
Speaker 1: costume designer, right yeah, yeah, And I you know, the
Speaker 1: thing is like, I don't all the projects I go into,
Speaker 1: I never assume I know what I'm doing. I always
Speaker 1: like a little little base of fear that that motivates me.
Speaker 1: And actually I was like, I don't assume I know
Speaker 1: what a medical community looks like. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: They were scrubs and they wear lab coats, but who
Speaker 1: wears the lab coats and who doesn't and who wears
Speaker 1: regular clothes. So Adam and I went to the hospital
Speaker 1: in downtown La. We made an appointment and he and
Speaker 1: I did research together, and I'll tell you what. All
Speaker 1: the characters were in there, including Doug. There was a
Speaker 1: guy in the er that walked around with a fanny
Speaker 1: pack with his water bottle like swinging from it, and like,
Speaker 1: there you have it. You're taking notes, and that's how
Speaker 1: Doug's fanny pack was born. Yep, that's it. And so
Speaker 1: just like I said my initial question, like what what what?
Speaker 1: Just explain to people. You get a script and you
Speaker 1: kind of do a breakdown of what's going to be necessary, right,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you read it together. Yeah, no, I do that.
Speaker 1: I read it. Well, I'm the supervisor, like my right
Speaker 1: hand person. We read the script and break it down
Speaker 1: and figure out how many days are in it, because
Speaker 1: you know, often the only thing that you that dictates
Speaker 1: that the day has changed is that you've changed your outfit, right,
Speaker 1: There's no thing that says like the next day or whatever,
Speaker 1: So that's really important. So I figure out how many
Speaker 1: days they are and like what's going on, like are
Speaker 1: you flying through the sky, are you whatever? Are you
Speaker 1: getting something spilled on you? Okay, so then we're gonna
Speaker 1: need doubles. There's a stunt, we're gonna need quadruples. Like Zach,
Speaker 1: I pretty much only bought quadruples of everything I ever
Speaker 1: bought for you because we always needed a hero costume.
Speaker 1: We needed a double and a stunt and then a
Speaker 1: ruined one, right, you know. And the clothes are remaining,
Speaker 1: the clothes that JD got to wear. Donald. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you loved your clothes as much as I did,
Speaker 1: but I got to say, like, my non scrubs clothes,
Speaker 1: my my civilian clothes out in the real world, though
Speaker 1: I loved. I was like, and they were so nice,
Speaker 1: and JD could have never afforded them, probably because some
Speaker 1: of them were really swanky. Well, well, I just I remember,
Speaker 1: and I've always stuck to this, Carrie told me, because
Speaker 1: I because you know, I come from the urban area
Speaker 1: where baggy clothes is what you always want to wear
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I remember saying to Carry,
Speaker 1: I don't want to wear this tight shit no more.
Speaker 1: She's like, it looks good on screen. I said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to wear this anymore. It's so tight. And
Speaker 1: she was like, all right, fine, you get to wear
Speaker 1: baggy clothes. And I said, yeah, I won. So she
Speaker 1: put me in baggy scrubs, and I looked like I'm
Speaker 1: sweat like when you look at it on screen, I'm
Speaker 1: swimming in these things. So then I go back to carry.
Speaker 1: I go, I want to wear a tight stuff again.
Speaker 1: I kind of always remember pulling your scrubs up in
Speaker 1: the back, yeah, sir, because I would always let them
Speaker 1: fall off. Yeah. He was always coming out. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I remember two that there was I had to change
Speaker 1: so much because I was insomuch. At a certain point,
Speaker 1: I went to carry because you know, carrying it, you know,
Speaker 1: even with the scrubs. She was trying to shake it up,
Speaker 1: you know, because you don't you know, there's blue scrubs,
Speaker 1: but there's all different shades of blue, and what was
Speaker 1: the what was the shirt that was underneath it? And
Speaker 1: I used to in the beginning. I cared so much,
Speaker 1: and finally having a change forty times a day, I
Speaker 1: was like, Carrie, we're gonna stick in each episode with
Speaker 1: the same pair of blue scrub pants JD. For this
Speaker 1: whole episode, We'll wear that shade of paints. You can
Speaker 1: go crazy with the top chambers, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm always just trying to hold the line with the
Speaker 1: continuity and like, I will make sure that everything's like copasetic,
Speaker 1: and then Bill would say things like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't even notice, like he went in the room
Speaker 1: with one color scrubs on and he came out with
Speaker 1: a different colors. I used a piece. I remember me.
Speaker 1: He did that once when he was like, he's like,
Speaker 1: see if you notice anything off here, and I think,
Speaker 1: I don't. Forgot if I told this story before and
Speaker 1: no one could figure out. No one could figure it out.
Speaker 1: And then finally he's like, you don't notice that JD
Speaker 1: scrubs totally changed color um And I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. He goes, yeah, we needed a shot
Speaker 1: of you running out of that room. I didn't have one,
Speaker 1: so I took one from another episode. Yeah yeah, thanks
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah yeah, you know, you're totally You're totally right.
Speaker 1: I mean when I would pull the line, meaning like
Speaker 1: pull out all the costumes for the for each episode,
Speaker 1: you would often have like thirteen changes in one twenty
Speaker 1: minute episode. Like it's so crazy because it's like a
Speaker 1: montage and then there's like another montage and then there's
Speaker 1: like a scrub in the day, and then you go
Speaker 1: out on the day at night and you have sex,
Speaker 1: are you? That was the crazy thing. That was the
Speaker 1: crazy thing. Like also, you guys were in charge, Like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of nudity on the show, and you
Speaker 1: guys were in charge of hiding things, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like from the beginning all the way to
Speaker 1: the end. Like I remember one time I had a
Speaker 1: leaf made to cover my body, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I remember one time I literally had I had a leaf.
Speaker 1: One time I had a I had a nine iron. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean a nine would you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: you guys fall off very they're creative, they're creative, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just a sock and um and the sock
Speaker 1: falls off. Remember when I was dancing for Tara Reid,
Speaker 1: your son fell off your so oh you're you're saying
Speaker 1: your sock would never fallow, never fall off. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: that falls into my jurisdiction. That's crazy though, But that's yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, yeah, you did yeah and monkey
Speaker 1: costumes and uh we did monkey, We did chimps and
Speaker 1: monkeys dogs. Remember when the room when the Ostrich worked
Speaker 1: on Donald's can go. Yeah, I mean all of that all,
Speaker 1: but then not just that, then it goes into fantasies
Speaker 1: like the Wizard of Oz episode. Yeah you really the
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz and the and the and the Princess episode.
Speaker 1: You did such beautiful work for that, Kerry, I, I
Speaker 1: it's I don't I don't know if you uh were nominated,
Speaker 1: but you should have been. Um that your your work
Speaker 1: on on you know you you always did outstanding work
Speaker 1: on So So Fast. But there were particular episodes like
Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz and Princess Bride for example, where
Speaker 1: you really got to do just epic work. And the
Speaker 1: Princess Pride one, well, I directed both of those, so
Speaker 1: I'm know that we got to work intimately on on
Speaker 1: that and it was you just did extraordinary work. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, you know. I mean I trained our
Speaker 1: production crew to put that stuff, anything that was a
Speaker 1: specialty costume, to shoot it at the end of the
Speaker 1: week because the scripts would always come in so late
Speaker 1: that I would need the time, like as we're shooting,
Speaker 1: I would need the time to like pull that stuff together,
Speaker 1: all that specialty stuff, and that was often custom made
Speaker 1: or whatever. What about Goat Turk? Remember Goat Turk? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, my bad bad get your hands off,
Speaker 1: my little woman. Turk plant turk Oh my gosh, like
Speaker 1: this yeah, man, Yeah, there was a unicorn in there somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I made a horn for a unit. You did, yes?
Speaker 1: Did we glued it to a horse's head? Not glued, Peter,
Speaker 1: not glued? You guys put this. I'm gonna put this outside.
Speaker 1: It's driving me crazy. I'm sorry. Probably not glued um
Speaker 1: gently placed, like with sticky stuff gum like like yeah something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like it was yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was like something that doesn't hurt nothing that hurts
Speaker 1: the horse. Yes, unless it wasn't a horse it was
Speaker 1: it may have actually been a unicorn. Um, Carrie, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you remember? Is like your hardest
Speaker 1: assignment or or or and and or also your favorite one?
Speaker 1: Do you do you have any that come into mind?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean I don't know where do
Speaker 1: I start. I mean the big one was the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: Two episodes in the Bahamas, again with no script. I
Speaker 1: just was kind of guessing I had to ship everything
Speaker 1: down there like two weeks I think before we shot.
Speaker 1: You know, there was no script. By then, you just
Speaker 1: be our characters who you knew, so well, I knew, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew that you'd need eating suits. I knew there
Speaker 1: was a wedding and that's all I knew. And I
Speaker 1: just shipped everything down there. That was so hard, and
Speaker 1: you know, because there was no store. Yeah, Neil doesn't
Speaker 1: wear a jumpsuit at all in this episode. Yeah, anybody's
Speaker 1: in different things. And you know, we're on the plane
Speaker 1: and Bill's like, come sit next to me, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you what's in this episode. Oh really, So
Speaker 1: you were really screwed if like there was any surprises. Well,
Speaker 1: and there was, and then he was like, hey, could
Speaker 1: we have a Mermaid? I like, you have to be
Speaker 1: kidding me. That is like costume designers number one favorite
Speaker 1: amazing thing to make. And I don't have thing to
Speaker 1: have a Mermaid. And we weren't like even we weren't
Speaker 1: even like in the main area of the Bahamas. We
Speaker 1: were on a remote it's so remote stores. So well,
Speaker 1: I figured that we would probably need lining for things
Speaker 1: like bathing suits and stuff. So I threw in some
Speaker 1: lining fabric and then the it was our It was
Speaker 1: Sarah stand In who ended up being the mermaid S Shelena. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she had an amazing bra as girls do. She
Speaker 1: loaned me that I like hands sewed up, you know,
Speaker 1: over her bra There was like a tiny little gift
Speaker 1: store there that had like some earrings that had shells
Speaker 1: on them, so I bought those, picked the shells off,
Speaker 1: like hand sewed this whole thing. I stayed up all
Speaker 1: night and just made this thing. And then we get
Speaker 1: to the shot and it's he shoots it from the back,
Speaker 1: which I didn't do the back because I figured fine.
Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, it's okay, it's okay, just it's
Speaker 1: over the shoulder. Um. And anyways, I think she when
Speaker 1: if she comes out of the water or something, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just her top camera. That's just when
Speaker 1: I saw your eel. Donald, I forgot come on bro
Speaker 1: Nome and the show. Yeah, and the show. I don't
Speaker 1: remember the script moment. We haven't gotten there yet. I
Speaker 1: don't remember either. I do remember getting so dehydrated that
Speaker 1: I almost passed out while we're shooting that scene on
Speaker 1: it because we were drinking a lot of alcohol. We
Speaker 1: drank so many Bahama mamas. The whole crew much downtime
Speaker 1: and so even at because the crew is really working
Speaker 1: their asses off in the heat, nah man, dud Man, listen, shit,
Speaker 1: I don't have to say, come on, bro, we were
Speaker 1: fucking around when we were making that shit, like we
Speaker 1: got drunk with like most of us are drunk or
Speaker 1: stoned while making that episode. But whenever there's a down moment,
Speaker 1: we're just you'd be sitting there and there'd be a
Speaker 1: bar right there. You would just rather than rather than
Speaker 1: sit in your director's chair or whatever, you just go
Speaker 1: sit at the bar. Can I get a Bahama Mama? Please?
Speaker 1: And then out of nowhere, you're freaking doing scenes drunk
Speaker 1: out of your mind and you're like, I'm so fucking
Speaker 1: drunk right now. Yeah, yeah, I definitely you should know
Speaker 1: when you watch the Bahamas episodes that we're holding it
Speaker 1: together and I am anebriated. Yeah, I think the entire
Speaker 1: crew is actually yea, and we lived to swim at
Speaker 1: lunchtime and yeah, yeah, that was the infamous that you
Speaker 1: listen man, that was the infamous swimming in the ocean
Speaker 1: with uh a thunderstorm behind us. Yes, when that happened,
Speaker 1: and we had we basically like rented all the houses
Speaker 1: on that on that island, there was there there was
Speaker 1: not a hotel right. We just had all the houses
Speaker 1: we were living with, like we like we kicked everybody
Speaker 1: that had lived there off the island. We took over
Speaker 1: their homes, kicked them off the islands. I think they
Speaker 1: a lot of people rented their houses to us. Don't
Speaker 1: act like we like we're like get out, but I do.
Speaker 1: I do remember actually that they had to, um, they
Speaker 1: hired people to clean up the beach. Remember that they
Speaker 1: were like bulldozing, um uh seaweed off the beach. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like trash and stuff. I was
Speaker 1: to say, damn, that sucks. But carry didn't you develop
Speaker 1: your own scrubs line for a while? Um? What happened?
Speaker 1: Is that still going? Or did that that? Did that end?
Speaker 1: What happened with that? I remember there was a moment
Speaker 1: where we were often wearing your very own scrubs. I know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I did that, you know after the first season.
Speaker 1: You know, well, let me back up, like that was
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. Back then, scrubs were unisex, Like
Speaker 1: there was no designer scrubs. It didn't exist. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, it wasn't a thing. And so I
Speaker 1: had our beautiful ladies in these scrubs that were like
Speaker 1: not cute, and we had them tailored so tight on
Speaker 1: them that we had to put zippers in them and
Speaker 1: stuff so that they could get out of them. We
Speaker 1: had to take two of us would pull them out
Speaker 1: of their scrub tops every day. And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, Like this is torture for the actresses.
Speaker 1: And so after that first season, I spent the summer
Speaker 1: developing like I was like, there's got to be stretchy
Speaker 1: scrub fabric somewhere so we can make these tight, little
Speaker 1: cute fitted scrubs, but they're stretchy so they can come
Speaker 1: out on right. So I made those and tried them
Speaker 1: on the girls and they were just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is this is a revolution. And then we started
Speaker 1: the second season with those scrubs and I had I
Speaker 1: didn't do them for you boys yet, UM, because because
Speaker 1: the girls were the first issue to tools, you wanted
Speaker 1: they were so beautifully you want them to show their curve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we wanted them to look fitted in their scrubs and
Speaker 1: cute on TV UM and people started to call the
Speaker 1: show like right into the show and and be like,
Speaker 1: what are those scrubs? Where did you get those people
Speaker 1: who wore scrubs were like, wait a second, We're like,
Speaker 1: where are those from? Yeah? Where do I get those?
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I made those? Um. So yeah, So
Speaker 1: then I launched m I launched a little business and
Speaker 1: it did amazing for a while. Um and then Patton listen,
Speaker 1: I watched Shark Tank. I know I can hear them saying, uh,
Speaker 1: this is copyable. And so you felt like a lot
Speaker 1: of people got a lot of people joined you in
Speaker 1: and it kind of was a hard business to maintain.
Speaker 1: Is that what happened? Yeah, totally, Yeah, yeah, yeah, lots
Speaker 1: of copy now there's so many now now everyone is,
Speaker 1: I mean in the profession, it seems didn't Darla Options.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Darla Makeup? Didn't she start the whole
Speaker 1: spray painting the face thing like airbrush makeup? Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was one of the originals to do that too, before
Speaker 1: when viral and everybody started. Yeah, and she was developing
Speaker 1: her own own means of her own equipment just to
Speaker 1: to airbrush makeup. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's hard to
Speaker 1: keep that stuff going though, and like you know, and
Speaker 1: also you've got you can't run two businesses at the
Speaker 1: same time. You have to do the show and then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Scrubs. Did you go on to work did you
Speaker 1: go in to work with Bill some more? Or did
Speaker 1: you Um, I've done some pilots with him. I've done
Speaker 1: a bunch of pilots with him. I just finish doing
Speaker 1: Head of the Class with him. Oh yeah, yeah. And
Speaker 1: you know, and back then too, back during the Scrubs years,
Speaker 1: I was also doing the Office that yeah you did
Speaker 1: not Wait what else of the Office did you do? Dudes?
Speaker 1: I did the pilot and I did the first four
Speaker 1: seasons of the Office. Bullshit, How did you manage to
Speaker 1: do that? I did it. I did it at both
Speaker 1: of them at the same time, Like we did the
Speaker 1: pilot during a hiatus of Scrubs I think, And then
Speaker 1: it was like almost a year before it got picked up.
Speaker 1: So I was like, ah, you know, pilots never go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm good. And then it got picked up and they
Speaker 1: moved it from it was originally in Culver City, and
Speaker 1: then they moved it where it ended up in the Valley,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of like behind where we shot Scrubs.
Speaker 1: They did it at Radford, right, No, they did no
Speaker 1: building like us. No, it's did a sound stage. There's
Speaker 1: a sound stage out on sata KOI out in the
Speaker 1: Onali just outed it, but it's out people know where
Speaker 1: it is. It's out on. So there was a big
Speaker 1: Starbucks in between, and I would just literally go back
Speaker 1: and forth all day long. I had. That is so fun.
Speaker 1: No clue, no clue whatsoever. I think Carrie, you probably
Speaker 1: wanted to hide from us that you were that you
Speaker 1: were double double dipping with a with another show. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, but then it like Scrubs was you know,
Speaker 1: I had done it for several years and also Scobs
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it wasn't well oiled machine compared to
Speaker 1: the Office. The Office was chaotic, but they had so
Speaker 1: I mean they were a hit show. They were like
Speaker 1: the real hit show. We were like it not when
Speaker 1: we were making it. Really the Office, The Office I
Speaker 1: think has found it's it's uh, it's giant following after
Speaker 1: that it aired, right, I mean it was, it was.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were huge because like, no, I
Speaker 1: remember Friends being such a big hit and people being
Speaker 1: like Scrubs is going to be that, and Scrubs was
Speaker 1: never quite that, you know what I mean? Not that Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I thought The Office I had always envisioned that
Speaker 1: the Office was like that. But it's great to know
Speaker 1: that two of the most you know, influential shows of
Speaker 1: the time were kind of like, I know, Denominator, they're
Speaker 1: not really we know what it is now, don't we know?
Speaker 1: Out Well, that's incredible. You, I mean, that must be
Speaker 1: so much hard work. I mean to be doing both, um,
Speaker 1: but you obviously support team UM helping. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, let's just put let's set the record straight,
Speaker 1: like I don't do it all. Yeah, no, I have
Speaker 1: amazing It's safe to say that you can't do this
Speaker 1: all on your own, Carrie, Yes, exactly. And then and
Speaker 1: then in fact, you're no superman. No, I'm not amazing.
Speaker 1: Had an amazing team, and we had people on set
Speaker 1: that make sure the continuity matches and uh and Sarah
Speaker 1: would always spill things on her scrubs top. She would, girl,
Speaker 1: yeah she would. She must have driven you crazy. She's
Speaker 1: such a slob. Oh my god, you know, we made her.
Speaker 1: We made her wear she had to wear a bib
Speaker 1: to lunch, you know, remember. Yeah. The worst though was
Speaker 1: was that she and the worst was that she came
Speaker 1: in one time and she's got her like icy blue
Speaker 1: scrubs on and she's holding a sharpie and she's like,
Speaker 1: um so it's open. And she's like, um so I
Speaker 1: fell asleep on this. And she turns around and she
Speaker 1: has this giant black blob on her ass and she's like,
Speaker 1: do you think this will come out? It's sharpie, it's
Speaker 1: sharp has a sleep on an open sharpie. Sarah Sarah,
Speaker 1: Sara Sarah' dressing him carry. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever ventured in there, but it looked like a bomb
Speaker 1: went off. Let's let's put it this way. If Honey,
Speaker 1: I shrunk the kids was a real movie, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to shrink the kids in Sarah's dressing room because
Speaker 1: the kids would not get out. The backyard was probably
Speaker 1: safer than Sarah's dressing. They would drown an old soup
Speaker 1: she she had like food containers from like it. It
Speaker 1: was nasty. But Sarah was a big challenge for you
Speaker 1: because she would always be at klutz and spill something.
Speaker 1: We were allowed Donald and I were adults, so we
Speaker 1: were allowed to wear our clothes to lunch, right, But Sarah,
Speaker 1: I think I would make my I think often it
Speaker 1: would take my scrub U scrub top off and just
Speaker 1: wear the long Yeah. Yeah, we really milked the hell
Speaker 1: out of that T shirt over a long sleeve shirt thing.
Speaker 1: Krry you and I, Oh my god, you know it's epic.
Speaker 1: Bill Still, where is that as like his uniform? I
Speaker 1: don't know, It's good. I'm gonna tell you this. It
Speaker 1: was the best. The best outfit costumes ever was getting
Speaker 1: out of my pajamas going to work and putting on
Speaker 1: pajamas again, right, you know what I mean? And that's
Speaker 1: the thing, you know. But they but you know, halfway
Speaker 1: through your guys, your scrubs were custom made. Also. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah no, at some point they did get fancy. I
Speaker 1: do remember, Yeah, I remember I took I took Zach's
Speaker 1: favorite pants, like he had like a like a Gucci
Speaker 1: little um uh chino and he had like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: these cute little sweatpants. I took all his favorite pants
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I want I want the
Speaker 1: pants to have like this kind of a rise this
Speaker 1: the butt, the pockets like this. So we just kind
Speaker 1: of the perfect Zackcraft pants um. And then there was
Speaker 1: there was two tone scrubs that I sometimes wore the
Speaker 1: but came in later. Yeah, that came in later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those were you know, I had I had every scrub
Speaker 1: that existed on the market at that point, and in
Speaker 1: every color because we needed to have like thirteen days
Speaker 1: worth of colors so that it looked like it was
Speaker 1: you know. Well, you also came through like on the
Speaker 1: personal level too, Like I remember the first Halloween we
Speaker 1: ever had, you made Zach's costume, and I remember I
Speaker 1: was like, can you make my costume? And it was
Speaker 1: like two days before Halloween and you were like, oh, buddy, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, what's sure, I'll try my best. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to be Han Solo and somehow you figured
Speaker 1: it out a way to make me a Han Solo
Speaker 1: outfit and yeah, and it was before you were actually
Speaker 1: Han Solo on the show, obviously, No, I had already.
Speaker 1: That's how I got the idea because we had done
Speaker 1: the Han Solo and Scrubs thing. But I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be Han Solo and Scrubs. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: something else, and she got You got very creative, and
Speaker 1: you found a vest and you found some leather pants
Speaker 1: for me to wear and some boots from you to wear.
Speaker 1: Was I that year? Donald? You were you were a
Speaker 1: nos ferratu. You were you were like Count Dracula or
Speaker 1: something like that. That's when we went to the Playboy
Speaker 1: mansiip for the Playboy. I forgot I was Dracula Or
Speaker 1: was I the Phantom from Phantom of the Opera. No,
Speaker 1: it was the Halloween party. We went to a Halloween
Speaker 1: party for Playboy, and I recall you having on the
Speaker 1: tuxedo and the cane and everything. Okay, um, Carrie, talk
Speaker 1: about that Star Wars costume because that was a really
Speaker 1: good one and also interesting lesson for people who are
Speaker 1: curious on how you can tiptoe around when you're when
Speaker 1: you're technically doing a spoof of something. You can you can,
Speaker 1: you can do it. But you had to like do
Speaker 1: some weird stuff, right, Yeah, you have to change it
Speaker 1: can't be exactly exactly exactly, so you just kind of
Speaker 1: change it up. You just kind of, you know, do it.
Speaker 1: I mean that one was not so bad because it
Speaker 1: was like scrubs were supposed to be scrubs. We just
Speaker 1: but again, like we made those scrubs. We made the
Speaker 1: silhouette of the Are Wars looks but in scrub fabric,
Speaker 1: so it looked you know, it looked right. I just
Speaker 1: remember that Sarah had the buns, but she had she
Speaker 1: had like medical things stuck in the Yeah, I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember you dressed me up as Indiana Jones. The
Speaker 1: scrubs look like Indiana Jones and everything like that. You
Speaker 1: just put the lead they had. I had the leather
Speaker 1: jacket and the hat, but then the scrubs still kind
Speaker 1: of had the fit and everything. I know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there were so many things like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've had to defend myself a few times where it's
Speaker 1: like what kind of costumes are there on scrubs, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, so many custom made costumes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I think I might even still
Speaker 1: have them there. There's an entire closet full of customized
Speaker 1: scrubs that show ladies assets if you will leavages. Um,
Speaker 1: I say assets. Well, she was she was gesturing to
Speaker 1: that area and the audience I can't see that, so
Speaker 1: I wanted to let them know what she meant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so many customing things, just constantly, yeah, making it fit
Speaker 1: whatever Waco thing got written, and you know, and doing
Speaker 1: it last minute. And that's why I'm saying like I
Speaker 1: do not do all that myself, like I orchestrated, But
Speaker 1: I want to shout out your team. You had a
Speaker 1: great team. Yeah, I mean amazing. Yes, I mean there
Speaker 1: were so many of them over the over the years.
Speaker 1: But Carolyn urt amazing, Celesque, La Chance on set amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I ran into I ran into
Speaker 1: Celesque at a movie theater. Yeah, so I forget a
Speaker 1: movie we were seeing and she was prekers would have
Speaker 1: baby on the way. Yeah, we all did that. Like Sarah,
Speaker 1: Judy and I were all pregnant at the same time.
Speaker 1: We all went to our other's baby showers and we
Speaker 1: all were like, I forget who got pregnant first, But
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, how do you do this? How do
Speaker 1: you do that in this industry? How do you guys
Speaker 1: all have kids at around the same age, like little months,
Speaker 1: within months yeah, of each other. Yeah, yeah, well Carrie,
Speaker 1: you did incredible work. And um, no one should ever
Speaker 1: think that, oh she just threw some scrubs on people.
Speaker 1: She uh, she she did so much. And the fantasies
Speaker 1: you have to understand, as funny as they were, sometimes
Speaker 1: they Bill would come up with them and the team
Speaker 1: writers at the last second, you know, I was just
Speaker 1: thinking of remember that moment when we when we tuck,
Speaker 1: when we try on tuxedos for yeah, for the wedding,
Speaker 1: and then we fantasize about what we'd really want to
Speaker 1: be wearing. That was hilarious. That was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite outfits that we carry with all the rings. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm wearing like a top hat with white tails. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got like mirrors or something all over it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but also you made the Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: raw outfit. Oh yes, you may wait, and let's not
Speaker 1: forget the pimp strut outfits. Yeah. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: that is I get asked about that more than anything ever,
Speaker 1: like you guys, and I think that was that your
Speaker 1: innovation to not wear our shirts. No one, no. Donald
Speaker 1: was shirtless the first time, and then by the time
Speaker 1: they did it again, I had gotten in good shape.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I want to be the shirtless
Speaker 1: one this time because I worked so hard for this
Speaker 1: body man, Robin. And what about Rerun too, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: when you dressed everybody up ads Rerun dude, And that
Speaker 1: was one of those things that was like literally at
Speaker 1: like nine o'clock the night before. They're like, I get
Speaker 1: a call from someone in the writer's room. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: so we wouldn't do this joke, and we got Rerun,
Speaker 1: and we want to do it first thing up in
Speaker 1: the morning. We want the whole crew to be dressed
Speaker 1: like Rerun in a yellow what is it? Yellow Turts suspenders.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, it's it's nine o'clock at night
Speaker 1: and we're gonna shoot it at nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: You've got twelve hours ago, and I need like two
Speaker 1: hundred pairs of red you know, pants and suspenders. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go and suspenders right now. I know that Michael
Speaker 1: Spiller directed that one because there's a funny shot of
Speaker 1: him of him and the group as one of the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in it. I don't know how we pulled that
Speaker 1: one off. To be another thing back, like, how did
Speaker 1: you do that? Terry? Thank you so much. You're extraordinary
Speaker 1: and you made us look good and we want you
Speaker 1: to know that we appreciate you and your whole posse
Speaker 1: for all the years of great, just really beautiful work. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, guys, thank you for making it so fun.
Speaker 1: I mean you you wrecked it for me. I really
Speaker 1: can't do anything other than comedies anymore because I like
Speaker 1: to do comedies myself, because you you're gonna go to
Speaker 1: work and laugh every day. And we always talk about
Speaker 1: what a fun job this was, because the assignment was
Speaker 1: to go to work and fun laugh all day. Right.
Speaker 1: It was long and crazy hours, but it was funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we partied hard, man, Like no fucking crew partied
Speaker 1: like we partied. We partied like rock stars. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: our rat parties were absolutely epic. Yeah, like epic. Like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, I have yet to
Speaker 1: experience that level of freaking epicness when it comes to partying. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well we don't party anymore. I mean we're COVID, but
Speaker 1: also there's a lot of reasons why. But for twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six year old man, it was so fun. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, it was awesome. I mean remember flying to
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Amazing. Yeah, dude, not only flying to Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: we freaking charted a plane to the Bahamas and got
Speaker 1: shit faced. But it wasn't all of us, it was
Speaker 1: the whole crew. I wasn't like, when you think of that,
Speaker 1: don't think of like a private yet like they charged
Speaker 1: like Bill chartered up the whole crew. But there was
Speaker 1: no like, there was no way, um you know, crew
Speaker 1: on the plane. Like there was no food, There was
Speaker 1: no drinks or anything. I remember, like Randall, I have
Speaker 1: a picture of Randall Winston holding a picture of Margarita's,
Speaker 1: like serving down the aisle. We got fucked. There was
Speaker 1: no food. There was just pictures of Margarita's. And when
Speaker 1: we had Bloody Mary's, Bloody Mary And then we had
Speaker 1: a layover in Texas and we ordered pizzas. Remember, and
Speaker 1: the guy came on on the tournament that was on
Speaker 1: the way back. We didn't do that on the way back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Johnny C busted the door open because you guys,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let you guys through customers. Johnny C busted
Speaker 1: the door open and went and met the guy and
Speaker 1: bought the pizzas back. Is what I understand happened. All right,
Speaker 1: we gotta wrap it up. Um, carry We love you, Daniel,
Speaker 1: we love you. Thank you for being a one man
Speaker 1: band today. Joe, Well, we miss you well, we miss you.
Speaker 1: And and um that's it. Donald, anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people, to the amazing fans. Thank
Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Um, I'm just happy that you
Speaker 1: know I haven't seen you guys. Well, carry, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen you in a while, but Daniel Zach, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen you guys in like two weeks. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: when I said by to you at the festival that
Speaker 1: was going to be the last time I saw you. Well,
Speaker 1: i'll be home Sunday if you want to come. M
Speaker 1: hug me and and uh and I gotta work. I'm
Speaker 1: working this weekend. Oh yeah, you got your pilot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell them I need I'm special and I need to
Speaker 1: come on Wednesday. But I want to stand on the floor. Okay,
Speaker 1: work that out. Yeah, all right. I love you guys.
Speaker 1: Five six, seven, eight Stories about shore. We made a
Speaker 1: lot of nurses stories. Yad around you here, I'm ye
Speaker 1: at around you here, I'm scrut free. Watch your wits
Speaker 1: at a time. Mm hmmmmm