Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, Nice rack An, Welcome to
Speaker 1: another edition of Around the NFL. My name is Dan
Speaker 1: Hansis and uh I come to you from a virtual
Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal. How
Speaker 1: are we pretty rare that a money drop take takes
Speaker 1: you aback? And after after ten years, it takes a lot.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that expression on Dan's face. Where what
Speaker 1: is the origin story? You say, Nice rack? There's there's
Speaker 1: often inside jokes that I don't remember that came up,
Speaker 1: and I guess it's right. Um, I feel like that
Speaker 1: was directed at someone else. That would be the end
Speaker 1: of the podcast, but we're okay. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it means. I feel maybe an insult. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to get into you know, training camp is gonna
Speaker 1: start for everybody. You know, I'm gonna have to hit
Speaker 1: that peloton. You're gonna have to really start to zone
Speaker 1: in for week one. Maybe work on the rack. Mark
Speaker 1: Marks zoned in right now, Dan, I didn't take it
Speaker 1: as a bod comment about you. I think I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what it was referring to. It was murky and confusing.
Speaker 1: Well let's just let it pass then and we'll dig
Speaker 1: in and maybe fire Graver after the show. I don't
Speaker 1: have the power to remove Graver from the commissioner chair.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, the producer. I would get a three fourths vote,
Speaker 1: though we could. We could do that another mark, any ideas,
Speaker 1: marks like finally I outnumbered, we outnumber them. Now, welcome
Speaker 1: to the Thursday edition. I am still in Texas. Um,
Speaker 1: the boys are still in California. Greg is heading to
Speaker 1: mother Japan in days now. And what what a moment
Speaker 1: it's gonna be when we do our first I mean,
Speaker 1: how many miles will separate? Well, how far is California,
Speaker 1: Southern California from Japan. I mean we're talking at ocean right, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, not not pretty much equal to Tokyo to London,
Speaker 1: which we do as a trip. It's about fifty miles. Google. Like,
Speaker 1: one of my bigger problems with traveling is just like
Speaker 1: getting on a plane and sitting on a plane for
Speaker 1: nine hours. That's fair, But I am taking this actually
Speaker 1: both flights, um by myself. So it could be worse.
Speaker 1: It could be worse. We are traveling separately. They're going
Speaker 1: a day and a half in front of me. The
Speaker 1: visa complications that delayed me having to get a ticket.
Speaker 1: But but I'm going, oh, just wait until the flight delays.
Speaker 1: I got stranded in Mexico a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1: I ended up a day late to Texas. It's really fun.
Speaker 1: What's going on in the airline industry? Hey? The the
Speaker 1: day yesterday for me was fun. I went to Putters
Speaker 1: and Gutters, great place in um Marble Falls, Texas. I
Speaker 1: shout that out. I went to a great cheese bit
Speaker 1: burger place. What was the name of it? If you're
Speaker 1: in central Texas, I have the place for you to
Speaker 1: go and lamp passes. I wish I remembered it. I'll
Speaker 1: get back to you on that mark. What's going on
Speaker 1: for you and uh in your neck of the woods? Well?
Speaker 1: One question, are you getting recognized, um, you know at
Speaker 1: the golf course, UM in eateries on the street. Are
Speaker 1: people kind of you know, flagging you down just to
Speaker 1: say thank you for the content, for the work that
Speaker 1: you've done. I don't think that's gonna really happen in
Speaker 1: this part of the country. Now. That's not to say
Speaker 1: there's not NFL fans around here. Are fans are our podcast,
Speaker 1: But this very much is UM college football heaven Um.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a bailor hat right now because my father
Speaker 1: in law is a big time Sick and Bears guy,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about a little more Texas football
Speaker 1: a little later in the news. That has Justin Graver,
Speaker 1: the Texas native and UT graduate, all pumped up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this feels like if we did, like around the CFB podcast,
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be a pretty good chance
Speaker 1: around the NFL A little are hit and miss just
Speaker 1: to give you the answer, that full answer and a
Speaker 1: little bookkeeping. On Monday's show, I challenged the shadowy League
Speaker 1: figures um and said, if you listen to the show,
Speaker 1: hit me up on work email, and you don't even
Speaker 1: have to put anything in the body, just the subject
Speaker 1: I'm listening. One third floor executive did email me, I'm listening. Wow,
Speaker 1: one male or female is a male? I won't say
Speaker 1: who it was beyond that, But then also had a
Speaker 1: quick note that they really enjoyed uh the NFL Media
Speaker 1: Summit podcast last week and to keep up the good work.
Speaker 1: So it was a positive email. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe Roger or others were tied up in other things
Speaker 1: so they didn't they didn't get a chance to email me.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say though that that hits the over.
Speaker 1: I mean my I said the over under a half,
Speaker 1: so I think I think, did you I missed that?
Speaker 1: I would have said it in one and a half after,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, we got one though, all right.
Speaker 1: So yes, we're gonna do it on today's show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna share some inner monologues. We're gonna bring that back.
Speaker 1: We did it last summer. Is fun and guess what
Speaker 1: it's June. This is it. This is ground zero for
Speaker 1: the quiet period of the NFL calendar. Um. So we're
Speaker 1: just gonna have some fun and let you know what's
Speaker 1: going on. The things that certain NFL figures are thinking
Speaker 1: that are taking up hard drive in their mind right
Speaker 1: now that they would never share, certainly not with the media,
Speaker 1: yeah who's like us, but also even maybe with their
Speaker 1: own loved ones where their own team, Yeah, whenever, the
Speaker 1: deepest internal monologues and thoughts that are often secret that
Speaker 1: you know it's you don't You don't want to be
Speaker 1: completely vulnerable and release it out there. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: do that today. I think everyone, to certain extent um,
Speaker 1: some more than others, certainly there's a level of self
Speaker 1: doubt and a level of reflection that goes on that
Speaker 1: you would keep to yourself. We're we're open, A're cracking
Speaker 1: that open. This is one source that we're exposing. It's
Speaker 1: these certain figures that are coming up today and we're
Speaker 1: gonna let you know how they feel. But before that,
Speaker 1: let's do some news. One more. I got sixty nine
Speaker 1: touch songs. If you know what I mean. It's a
Speaker 1: little like little cackle laugh at the end. Rob Gronkowski,
Speaker 1: of course, Um sent out the Instagram message on Monday
Speaker 1: announcing he was not coming back and had once again
Speaker 1: gone into retirement. It should be noted that Adam Schefter.
Speaker 1: Um was contacted by his agent, who texted Schefter and
Speaker 1: probably others. It would not surprise me if Tom Brady
Speaker 1: calls him him being grunk during the season to come back,
Speaker 1: and Rob answers the call. This is just my opinion,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if Rob comes back during
Speaker 1: the season or next season. He's coming back, I mean,
Speaker 1: what is that? What is that? Rosenhaus, who who's gross agent,
Speaker 1: was clearly putting it out there like we're open for business,
Speaker 1: just uh, just not yet. And I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1: Mike Floria, who who often um, you know, has stories
Speaker 1: and quotes from Rosenhouse and stuff, uh, noted that it
Speaker 1: might have just been a financial thing. That it's like
Speaker 1: if they weren't going to pay him what he wanted.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to play the whole season necessarily for Tampa,
Speaker 1: but maybe he'll play half the season. And if you
Speaker 1: want to parse that even further, the fact that Rosenhaus
Speaker 1: specifically cites, you know, if Tom calls, it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: grunk searching for another team to come out of the
Speaker 1: woodwork and pay him. It's just like, you know, the
Speaker 1: Bucks want to bring me back and they're in contention
Speaker 1: and they needed I'll play, you know. But I actually
Speaker 1: felt bad for a second after the show, um, just
Speaker 1: thinking about It's like, oh, we didn't really provide context
Speaker 1: of like what these last couple of years meant for
Speaker 1: Gron's career and what a legend it's like. But I'm
Speaker 1: glad we didn't because he'll be coming back. We have.
Speaker 1: We absolutely totally nailed it and spent about two and
Speaker 1: a half minutes on it because this is exactly what
Speaker 1: we said would occur, and by the way, if he
Speaker 1: does indeed stick to this retirement, it's still is nothing
Speaker 1: to feel bad about Greg because in five years when
Speaker 1: he's a first eligibility can't And guy, if we're still
Speaker 1: doing the show by then, we absolutely have all those conversations.
Speaker 1: It'll be great. They'll be great conversations. There's no escape. Now.
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, we're like blood Brothers for life, Mark,
Speaker 1: this show will be going on in for infinity. Why
Speaker 1: are you pointing that commentent to to me because it's
Speaker 1: toward you basically all right, alright, or Roger Goodell testified
Speaker 1: Wednesday before members of Congress. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: this because on four only a part of doing this job,
Speaker 1: which is covering everything connected with this professional football league
Speaker 1: around the NFL, is all the distasteful things surrounding the
Speaker 1: Washington commanders, and it's building and building and building. And
Speaker 1: now we're going to talk about the latest chapter. NFL
Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell testified Wednesday before members of Congress at
Speaker 1: a hearing by the House Committee of Oversight and Reform
Speaker 1: about ongoing scrutiny into the organization's workplace culture and accusations
Speaker 1: from women employees of pervasive sexual harassment by team executives
Speaker 1: connected to the Commanders. So Goodell testified Wednesday a Congresswoman
Speaker 1: Rashida Talib from Michigan, after initially asking whether he would
Speaker 1: recommend Snyder's removal as owner of the Commanders, the congresswoman
Speaker 1: followed up by asking Goodell, will you remove him? Here's
Speaker 1: what Roger had to say, Well, remove him. I don't
Speaker 1: have the authority to remove him, Congresswoman. And an NFL
Speaker 1: owner can be removed, and here's the background and why
Speaker 1: Goodell answer that way. An NFL owner can be removed
Speaker 1: only by a three quarters vote twenty four out of
Speaker 1: thirty two majority vote of fellow owners, although Goodell does
Speaker 1: have the ability in his position as Commissioner to officially
Speaker 1: recommend such a vote. Daniel Snyder, the center of all this,
Speaker 1: the owner of the Commanders, was invited to testify but declined,
Speaker 1: deciding overseas business commitments and concerns about due process. Committee
Speaker 1: chair Carolyn Maloney out of New York announced during the
Speaker 1: hearing that she plans to issue a subpoena to compel
Speaker 1: Snyder to testify. It ain't going away. It it was
Speaker 1: disappointing to watch this to UH to watch Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: try to answer for Day and Snyder, which is like,
Speaker 1: that's what the commissioner on on paper makes his money
Speaker 1: for his being up there and trying to protect UH Snyder.
Speaker 1: But at what point does that grow so tiresome that
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell does recommend to start this process because he
Speaker 1: could if he really, if he really wanted to, he
Speaker 1: could he could recommend to start the process and at
Speaker 1: least force UH some sort of vote. It doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like that's going to happen, if only because if it
Speaker 1: was going to happen UM, you would have thought it
Speaker 1: would have already. And they kept pointing to that they've
Speaker 1: they've changed their organization. Ron Rivera came in Jason Write,
Speaker 1: their new president came in UM. Dan Snyder is no
Speaker 1: longer the day to day UM operating owner. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of quotes from Moron Rivera and other people
Speaker 1: that indicate Dan Snyder is still very involved in the
Speaker 1: day to day operations, and so that doesn't really match up.
Speaker 1: And some of the allegations are new, and I think
Speaker 1: that's probably their biggest problem, is that the new NFL
Speaker 1: investigation into them after the one that that they never released.
Speaker 1: The report for came from allegations that came from these
Speaker 1: congressional hearings a year ago. And there's allegations from the
Speaker 1: Washington Post that that Dan Snyder essentially like sent goons
Speaker 1: to intimidate these witnesses and and find things out. And
Speaker 1: that was in the last year. So that's not just
Speaker 1: um old news. Washington Posts also um you know how
Speaker 1: to report with details about a previously known sexual assault
Speaker 1: that Dan Snyder was accused of, that that there was
Speaker 1: a payment of back in two thousand and nine. So
Speaker 1: it's all just disappointing, just as someone that's I feel
Speaker 1: like we've been ever since we've worked for the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's been extremely disappointing negative stories about this one particular franchise,
Speaker 1: and and that there's one commonality that that's been there
Speaker 1: the whole time and still right. It's hard to find
Speaker 1: an owner that has more consistently gone against what you
Speaker 1: would want an NFL owner to do. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: some startling other cases out there as well, but Snyder,
Speaker 1: going on decades um, this has been the culture and
Speaker 1: I mean the idea that he would survive this after
Speaker 1: we find out along the way during this investigation that
Speaker 1: he was using private investigators, offering hush money to witnesses, UH,
Speaker 1: doing shadow investigations to intimidate people inside his own building.
Speaker 1: To me, I don't know what the other owners, the
Speaker 1: other thirty one owners um where they are mentally if
Speaker 1: they want to protect him and keep him around. Because
Speaker 1: you're Daniel Snyder, the one thing you don't want to
Speaker 1: do is testify at all. I mean I totally get
Speaker 1: from his angle why he is staying away as long
Speaker 1: as possible because nothing good can come from that. And
Speaker 1: I thought that Goodell, you know, his role is to
Speaker 1: protect the owners to some degree, but he spent two
Speaker 1: hours having to be very slick um and very slippery
Speaker 1: around certain answers. I mean, they offered a bunch of
Speaker 1: strange questions too. It wasn't all just on this investigation
Speaker 1: because they have two hours to do what they want
Speaker 1: with it. But if you're a Goodell, this is the
Speaker 1: last thing you want to be happening in the middle
Speaker 1: of June, when folks, this football season is about to
Speaker 1: start and this thing can explode. I think this this
Speaker 1: doesn't end with Daniel Snyder out of the mix. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of hope for any
Speaker 1: of these owners to be corrected in the way they behave.
Speaker 1: In a statement, a spokesperson for Snyder characterized the report
Speaker 1: and the hearing itself as a politically charged show trial
Speaker 1: and said Congress should not be investigating an issue a
Speaker 1: football team addressed years ago. That is the whole angle.
Speaker 1: And even though when it comes from the league now
Speaker 1: with after the investigation that the team held of the
Speaker 1: commander's football team and it led to the ten million
Speaker 1: dollar fine and the and Snyder being forced to step
Speaker 1: back that they say things have changed since then. But
Speaker 1: there are obviously a lot of people out here, including
Speaker 1: in the government here, that want more. They that's not
Speaker 1: good enough just this idea, Oh it's fixed now. They
Speaker 1: want accountability what's happened for what's happened in the past.
Speaker 1: And when asked about the alleged quote shadow investigation that
Speaker 1: Snyder and the Commanders were involved with, Goodell said any
Speaker 1: action that would discourage people from coming forward would be inappropriate.
Speaker 1: So that's where we're at there. Good luck with that
Speaker 1: new stadium, by the way, like getting public funds for
Speaker 1: the new stadium, and I think that is it's all connected.
Speaker 1: There that that this is there. This is the local
Speaker 1: team that Congress is a little more interested in, maybe
Speaker 1: than than other teams. There's public money, there's the antitrust
Speaker 1: exemption that the NFL gets and has benefited from. So
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it. It doesn't seem like it's ending.
Speaker 1: That's why when the when, the when the Jack del
Speaker 1: Rio comments came out, one of the first piggybacked responses
Speaker 1: by lawmakers was, well, that might have been the tipping
Speaker 1: point that takes us out of any interest for this
Speaker 1: new stadium. In football news, let's get into a time
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey underwent shoulder surgery on Tuesday. That's interesting. June
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery football player. Okay, that's important to note, but
Speaker 1: he should be ready before the start of the season.
Speaker 1: Rapp Report added that Ramsey played with tears in both
Speaker 1: of his shoulders during the season. He was on Instagram
Speaker 1: the day of the report from rapp Report landed and
Speaker 1: he was in a shoulder sling. So he's been with
Speaker 1: the Rams or two and a half years since that
Speaker 1: blockbuster trade from the Jaguars, and he's coming off obviously
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl championship, So that's a major major piece
Speaker 1: of the puzzle in l A. And they just have
Speaker 1: to hope the rehab goes off without a hitch. I
Speaker 1: am afraid of like saying the same things that we
Speaker 1: say at this time of year every year, but sometimes
Speaker 1: you just gotta do it, which is that like, no
Speaker 1: one wants to have surgery in June, they were hoping
Speaker 1: to avoid it. That this is bad news because if
Speaker 1: they knew that he had to get it, you would
Speaker 1: have had it much earlier, and that there's no real
Speaker 1: accountability in terms of timelines within reporting in June, and
Speaker 1: just we we've learned over the years that many times
Speaker 1: when they say they're going to be ready for the season,
Speaker 1: there that's true, and many times when they say they're
Speaker 1: going to be ready for the season, it's not true.
Speaker 1: And there's really no way to know at this time
Speaker 1: of year, but it is. It is something that is disappointing.
Speaker 1: There's no way the Rams and Jalen Ramsey, especially considering
Speaker 1: how thin they are at cornerback, would have wanted to
Speaker 1: wait this long. Yeah, the timing is super ill. The
Speaker 1: only thing I'd say that's positive if if, if he
Speaker 1: can get healthy enough, is that you're under the same
Speaker 1: system with Raheem Morris he played. He's there sort of
Speaker 1: five position star guy that does everything for them. He
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. It's not like missing time and
Speaker 1: meetings or you know that part of it is is
Speaker 1: certainly manageable, But yeah, it's sort of a mess. Uh.
Speaker 1: In signings news, the Steelers have signed defensive tackle Larry
Speaker 1: ogum Jobi to a one year deal. He finds a home.
Speaker 1: He had a three year, forty million dollar deal forty
Speaker 1: point five million to be exact with the Bears that
Speaker 1: fizzled out after he failed a physical, but now he
Speaker 1: lands on his feet. Not the deal he was looking
Speaker 1: for in free agency, but he could rest re establish
Speaker 1: his value playing with the Pittsburgh defense that has obviously
Speaker 1: obviously some big time players on it. Your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the move, Mark Well, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: a classic Steelers late summer signing and they found a
Speaker 1: good guy here. It's it could be more than depth
Speaker 1: because after stephanto It retired, he could play that role. Um.
Speaker 1: He brings pressure from the inside. I mean at this point,
Speaker 1: if at some point he lands with the Ravens, he
Speaker 1: will have been with all four a f C North teams.
Speaker 1: But he did good things with the Browns. He had
Speaker 1: seven a career high seven sacks last year with the Bengals. Um.
Speaker 1: Speaking to that internal pressure, he's not He's sort of
Speaker 1: been hot and cold against the run. He wasn't good
Speaker 1: against the run last year. But when you add him
Speaker 1: to Cam Hayward, you know you got Miles Jack in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh as well. T J. Watt I like this signing
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. I think it's when he goes there.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work out. If he wins somewhere else,
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure he You set up perfectly with
Speaker 1: a classic Steeler signing. They find these cheap guys late
Speaker 1: in free agency, and Ogan Joey has been very up
Speaker 1: and down as a player, and that's why the Bengals
Speaker 1: chose b J. Hill over him. They actually, you know,
Speaker 1: b J. Hill ended up replacing him when Ogan Job
Speaker 1: got hurt, played outstanding in their playoff run. They end
Speaker 1: up giving Hill the big contract. But Ogan Job flashes
Speaker 1: and has made a ton of big blaze in his career,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like Mike Tomins will get the
Speaker 1: best out of him. This now leaves Dan fourteen players
Speaker 1: still left on the top one oh one that that
Speaker 1: has never been the case this deep uh into the
Speaker 1: off season. He's gonna list them for you. Just why not?
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Dwayne Brown still out there, the tackle thirty
Speaker 1: seven years old but played pretty well us here, Trey Flowers,
Speaker 1: former Patriot Lion, J C. Treader not sure why he's
Speaker 1: still available. Will Fuller, Eric Fisher, Julio Jones, Anthony Barr,
Speaker 1: Justin Houston, Sheldon Richardson and Dominans Wu, Kevin King, Danta
Speaker 1: high Tower and Riley Reef. I mean THO, some guys
Speaker 1: who can play for you. Part players there, some good
Speaker 1: ball players. Go get them, including I believe you mentioned
Speaker 1: Will Fuller still out there. I know everybody's kicking the
Speaker 1: tires looking to get better. Put that man with a
Speaker 1: good quarterback, you will make you better. You have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a Will Fuller fetish and it's been
Speaker 1: going on for years. He's replaced Lamar Miller as like
Speaker 1: the random former Houston Texans named Miller that you love.
Speaker 1: That's it. You guys cracked it. Wait he's not named Miller.
Speaker 1: He's fuller now from the Texans tree is my fetish?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, got some sad news. Ravens outside
Speaker 1: landbacker Jalen Ferguson has died at the age I actually
Speaker 1: have two items of really sad news around the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: So Jalen Ferguson passes away at the age of twenty six,
Speaker 1: the team announced Wednesday. Ravens coach John Harbaugh said that
Speaker 1: Jalen was a good hearted, gentle person who loved his
Speaker 1: family and his team. He was a joy to talk
Speaker 1: with and be around every day. Baltimore Police said officers
Speaker 1: responded to a home in the northern district of the
Speaker 1: city where they found Ferguson unresponsive and being treated by medics.
Speaker 1: He never regained consciousness and was pronounced dead on the
Speaker 1: scene by medics. Um this is a man with three children,
Speaker 1: three very young children. A former third round picked by
Speaker 1: the Ravens in two thousand nine, who had been fully
Speaker 1: involved in all of the team's offensive offseason practices this year.
Speaker 1: So he was in going in a great direction in
Speaker 1: his career. So young with the family, and we lose
Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson and at the age of also we lose
Speaker 1: Tony Saragosa, the Goose, one of the more notable, well
Speaker 1: known NFL figures of the early two thousands in late
Speaker 1: nineties defensive tackle uh with a huge personality, died Wednesday
Speaker 1: at the age of fifty five. Because of his death
Speaker 1: was not immediately available, but he was a key cog
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Ravens defense in two thousand,
Speaker 1: one of the best, if not the best defense ever.
Speaker 1: Twelve year career with the Colts and then Ravens, and
Speaker 1: I like this tweet from Jimmer say the Goose squeeze
Speaker 1: two hundred fun loving years into fifty five. He was
Speaker 1: one of the most physically strongest players I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in fifty years. In Greece, they would ask one question
Speaker 1: at the end of one's life. This is only Jim
Speaker 1: Mercy wouldweet this. Did he have passion? In Tony's case,
Speaker 1: Yes he did. So we lose Sarah Goosa and Jalen
Speaker 1: Ferguson in one day. Very sad. Well with Sarah Goosa,
Speaker 1: I'll just say one thing about him. Um, you know
Speaker 1: he was an on air presence on Fox for years too,
Speaker 1: and I that that I wasn't always thrilled with what
Speaker 1: he did on that on that vehicle, but his teammates,
Speaker 1: to a man, uh it absolutely loved this guy. And
Speaker 1: I think he was one of the better practical jokers
Speaker 1: UM of this century in the league because there were
Speaker 1: stories where like on the first Hard Knocks UM, when
Speaker 1: you know, Shannon Sharpe was in that tight end room
Speaker 1: with with the rest of that crew. He locked them
Speaker 1: in UM their meeting room and put a table up
Speaker 1: against the door, and they couldn't find their way out,
Speaker 1: and like it was just this that was just sort
Speaker 1: of what do we do all that? There's another time
Speaker 1: when a bunch of young players, UM, this is a
Speaker 1: weird story. They had made a giant pot of coco
Speaker 1: um and in the locker room and Saragosa snuck in
Speaker 1: like a large amount of laxative. And so they went
Speaker 1: out to practice UM in the cold after this coco
Speaker 1: and one player after the next was running back into
Speaker 1: the facility to do uh to you know, respond to
Speaker 1: what a laxative would do. UM. And the last single
Speaker 1: mentioned is that he when they went to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in that year, two thousand they knocked out the
Speaker 1: Raiders in the playoffs, and it was it was his
Speaker 1: hit on Rich Gannon the turtle totally turned Oakland upside down.
Speaker 1: And his quote, Sarah Goosa said, I saw Rich's eyes
Speaker 1: roll back. He got every pound of my fat ass
Speaker 1: on him. So I responded to be one of the
Speaker 1: more enjoyable characters of that era. Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he got to be one of the better undrafted UH
Speaker 1: free agents of the nineties period. You're an undrafted guy
Speaker 1: and you end up starting in the league for twelve years,
Speaker 1: start a hundred and forty eight games, win a ring
Speaker 1: UH with the Ravens. You meant to be part of
Speaker 1: that broadcast team Kenny, Moose and Goose. I just that
Speaker 1: that trio. It's always like in my brain it was
Speaker 1: Kenny Albert Moose and Goose. They were either the number
Speaker 1: two team or the number three team, and he sort
Speaker 1: of did this thing. Not many people have replaced it
Speaker 1: where he was on the sideline, but he was part
Speaker 1: of the broadcast the whole time, and just saying goofy
Speaker 1: stuff and and I'm with you on the hard knocks.
Speaker 1: Memories like I don't remember that much as a player,
Speaker 1: Ozzie knew some um brought up that he's one of
Speaker 1: the best run stoppers in Ravens history, and and actually
Speaker 1: that sort of role has continued throughout Ravens history under
Speaker 1: Ozzy Knewsom. They're always sort of looking for the next
Speaker 1: Tony Sarah Gooso with a big time run stopper in
Speaker 1: the middle. Now it's Brandon Williams. It's like Hellode not
Speaker 1: of different guys like that. But that Hard Knocks to
Speaker 1: me was maybe I'm not remembering well, but I just
Speaker 1: feel like that was the best one because they sort
Speaker 1: of didn't realize what it was and it was big
Speaker 1: time players being totally loose. They got away with a lot,
Speaker 1: they allowed everything, And if if you're a big enough
Speaker 1: dork that you would want to go back and watch
Speaker 1: a Hard Knocks, that would be like my number one
Speaker 1: recommendation because it's just like a different NFL. And Sarah
Speaker 1: Goosa was was maybe the star of it, the number
Speaker 1: one person he was. I mean it was I think
Speaker 1: Brian Billick thought he was the star because I've never
Speaker 1: seen a man carry himself with more irrational confidence. Um
Speaker 1: as the head coach of that team after the two
Speaker 1: thousand Super Bowl season. I just remember him laying in
Speaker 1: a hammock at one point was like a Bahama you know,
Speaker 1: Panama Jack had on just like I Am the King
Speaker 1: of the World, but Saragosa. That wasn't even his best
Speaker 1: HBO vehicle, Greggy. He also had a four episode run
Speaker 1: on The Sopranos right late in that series where he
Speaker 1: played an enforcer named Frankie Cortez, So you know he
Speaker 1: had that. He had all sorts of different angles and
Speaker 1: he um. He also yeh, the what did you call it?
Speaker 1: The Moose, Goose and Loose? What was it again? It
Speaker 1: is Kenny Moose and Goose that the Blue team was
Speaker 1: a team for a while. I feel like we used to,
Speaker 1: or at least I used to have some fun at
Speaker 1: the expense of Goose with his role on the on
Speaker 1: those telecasts, so we're like cut to Goose and then
Speaker 1: he'd be the way I always remember it, he'd either
Speaker 1: like be behind the field goal post or like halfway
Speaker 1: up the tabel and they just throw it to Goose
Speaker 1: and he'd say something Goose esque and then he would
Speaker 1: come back to the telecast. Um. But yes, definitely a
Speaker 1: memorable uh figure. I feel like West had strong opinions
Speaker 1: on Kenny Moose and Goose if he went back to
Speaker 1: like our two thousand, fourteen thirteen, it's like we have
Speaker 1: been we have been doing this a long time. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were that that I understand that a nice nickname,
Speaker 1: but they were critique to times. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: part of it. Wasn't everyone's cup of tea on air,
Speaker 1: but that you And one more note on Jalen Ferguson.
Speaker 1: Uh great nickname in college sack Daddy Awesome. He holds
Speaker 1: the FBS FBS record for career sacks with and wow,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I know, I mean that that, you know,
Speaker 1: that is sad. And he was going to have you know,
Speaker 1: when I did the projected starters. Not that the football
Speaker 1: side of it is that important, but you know, he
Speaker 1: he had an opportunity because of injuries and just how
Speaker 1: their roster is. He was probably penciled into to start
Speaker 1: this year. They've been good at kind of developing that
Speaker 1: position and this was his time to step up. And
Speaker 1: just it's tragic. I think everyone there, his teammates and
Speaker 1: everyone were just stunned. There. It was out of nowhere, alright,
Speaker 1: And finally in the news arch manning the next Manning,
Speaker 1: there was the father. Was he too Lane? Was he
Speaker 1: too Lane? Guy? Archie Archie was that old miss. And
Speaker 1: then with sts you know, that's still one of the
Speaker 1: great saints of all time. Um, there haven't been that
Speaker 1: many that have topped him. And then there was Peyton,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest to ever strap it up, multiple
Speaker 1: m vps, a couple of Super Bowl wins. And then
Speaker 1: Eli who had a couple of Super Bowl wins of
Speaker 1: his own at Greg Rosenthal's expense directly and one of
Speaker 1: the great German ever. And now here comes arch son
Speaker 1: of Cooper Cooper, who as another brother from the Manning
Speaker 1: family that people thought had a chance to be a
Speaker 1: truly great pro but I believe it was a neck
Speaker 1: injury that kept Cooper from following his NFL dreams. But
Speaker 1: here is his son, who is a blue absolute blue
Speaker 1: chip quarterback. He ends up um committing to Texas over
Speaker 1: other suitors that included Georgia, Alabama, l s U, Clemson,
Speaker 1: and Virginia. Now we are not your source for college football,
Speaker 1: h insight, but Justin Graver is an of Texan As.
Speaker 1: I sit in Texas right now. Like I said at
Speaker 1: the top of the show, they love their college football.
Speaker 1: And I could picture a young Graver just rolling through
Speaker 1: co Eds and then just attending all those Saturday games. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's doing the hook him horns thing or whatever that
Speaker 1: is there it is, and then now you have this
Speaker 1: dude or he pumped up Graver. Yeah, pretty pumped up.
Speaker 1: I think Texas is finally back. Right. We can say
Speaker 1: it with confidence. Games first, right, and the sec you
Speaker 1: would think you would think with him if he if
Speaker 1: he lives up to his billing. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about prospects, but he's been like the
Speaker 1: number one prospect hype wise for years. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's just because his name is Manning, but
Speaker 1: he's like the clear number one quarterback on that level
Speaker 1: of like Trevor Lawrence Andrew luck type of guys Opal
Speaker 1: works out and Graver you just, um, you know when
Speaker 1: you went to school. I asked you before the show.
Speaker 1: You just missed the magical um run of cult McCoy a.
Speaker 1: Texas probably the last really relevant era for them in
Speaker 1: some respect. Will this pull you back? Will you be going?
Speaker 1: Do you think that you'll go back and watch games?
Speaker 1: And do you think that Manning has a chance to
Speaker 1: outshine cult McCoy in the setting. I think he does
Speaker 1: because his name is Manning. But he's got to be
Speaker 1: he's gonna win games. Like Greg said, so I've been
Speaker 1: pretty like into Texas football. They have a really fun
Speaker 1: way of making you strong believers in September and then
Speaker 1: completely crumbling down the stretch. So every year is like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they've fallen off the map, but now you
Speaker 1: know they're they're entering the sec They're getting ready. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Isadore, Newman where Arch goes to school. A
Speaker 1: couple of my good friends from college went there a
Speaker 1: football jugger not despite being some small like school, and
Speaker 1: they somehow get all the Mannings. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that works. That's a great point, Greg Dan. What is
Speaker 1: going on in the streets in tech. You're in Texas,
Speaker 1: You're it's he let around you. What's the physical human
Speaker 1: response to this news that just broke hours ago? You're
Speaker 1: right there, there's nothing going on. I'm actually fairly close
Speaker 1: to Austin. But again, the Texas is very spread out,
Speaker 1: you know, it's very different than where the three of
Speaker 1: us currently live, which is a very highly concentrated region
Speaker 1: of the country, So I haven't seen another human today. Putters,
Speaker 1: putters and gutters is like where everyone is uh hanging
Speaker 1: out and that's it. There was like seven people of
Speaker 1: putters and gutters, um, and that's it. But anyway, good
Speaker 1: good luck to see that picture, by the way, of
Speaker 1: all the Mannings hanging out. I believe in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe not. Maybe they were in Texas and
Speaker 1: they all had identical looking polos and wrinkled uh shorts.
Speaker 1: And I showed that picture to my son to see
Speaker 1: if he recognized anyone in the picture, and he did
Speaker 1: recognize Peyton Manning and mentioned how much he dislikes Eli
Speaker 1: Manning as a Patriots fan. I don't like that guy there, Dan.
Speaker 1: You know there's a Manning nephew or you know on
Speaker 1: that wears Slayer shirt and has a mohawk and you know,
Speaker 1: ripped up jeans and a chain and smokes cigarettes that
Speaker 1: they just keep hidden. Yeah, probably like up in the
Speaker 1: attic somewhere, like chained to a chain to a bed,
Speaker 1: like you know the Kennedy story, the poor Kennedy woman
Speaker 1: that they kind of kept out of view. UM, a
Speaker 1: similar situation. They put they put a drill into her
Speaker 1: head by the way. So I know it's a very
Speaker 1: sad story. I was kind of dancing around that aspect
Speaker 1: of it, but more that she was kept out of
Speaker 1: the public I for the balance of her life, sodomized,
Speaker 1: taken out of the taken out of the rotation. Could
Speaker 1: this guy be lobotomized. I don't know. If he exists,
Speaker 1: he might be in danger. Certainly he'd be in danger
Speaker 1: of being forced to wear khaki shorts. Similar to how
Speaker 1: marx um child that popped up a few years ago. Right,
Speaker 1: remember the missing child. I mean, she's not missing anymore,
Speaker 1: but we didn't talk. It's my my daughter. We've dan
Speaker 1: met her. She's a very nice young woman. What's her deal.
Speaker 1: She's twenty four years old, lives in not too far
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Speaker 1: get to some deep internal thoughts that would never be
Speaker 1: shared with the public from your favorite NFL stars. All Right,
Speaker 1: we're back. It's time. It's time to dig in to
Speaker 1: let the people know what's really going on behind the
Speaker 1: eyes of some of the most notable NFL figures. And
Speaker 1: I would say this, and I think this needs to
Speaker 1: be a bit of a promise that we won't use
Speaker 1: anything that we broadcast today against these individuals because we
Speaker 1: are in a sense you could say, it's an invasion
Speaker 1: of their privacy at a biblical level what we're doing here.
Speaker 1: So that goes for everyone listening, any Shadowy League figures,
Speaker 1: including that one gentleman on the third floor, and anyone else.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair ground, real set. I think that's
Speaker 1: that's just because we're wielding a certain amount of power
Speaker 1: here and it's going to take us and the listeners um,
Speaker 1: a lot of restraint to not even think about it.
Speaker 1: You know, when you hear something very disturbing about someone
Speaker 1: and every time you see them, that's all you can
Speaker 1: think about. We've got to refrain from that being the
Speaker 1: case with these NFL figures. Well, right, two, Like people
Speaker 1: are concerned about that privacy data, um, and we're getting
Speaker 1: literally inside their brains. That's some privacy data you normally
Speaker 1: want to protect them. They can't, all right, So let's
Speaker 1: let's get inside a brain. Greg, do you want to
Speaker 1: get us going today? Sure? Um, let's get inside the
Speaker 1: mind of pet Carroll. People ask me all the time, like,
Speaker 1: how long is this gonna take? Are you gonna throw
Speaker 1: the ball forward? I don't know that. I don't really
Speaker 1: care about that. What do I do know is that
Speaker 1: things are going to go the right way. People want
Speaker 1: to say, Oh, Gino or Drew, how about asking this question,
Speaker 1: Rashot or ken that's Shotpenny or ken Walker. Here's what
Speaker 1: Gino can do. He can turn around, hold the ball
Speaker 1: to his left, and then one of those running backs
Speaker 1: can run to the left or to the right. It's
Speaker 1: up to them. They actually you can also run to
Speaker 1: the middle, one of the things we've been thinking about.
Speaker 1: They can actually start running to the left, and then
Speaker 1: they can change directions and then run to the right.
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of options. I'm just so jacked and
Speaker 1: pumped to get after it. I'm so happy. Russell Wilson's gone.
Speaker 1: Wait was that? Was that allowed? Was that what allowed? Out? Loud?
Speaker 1: I like the Pete Carroll cadence. I thought, you really
Speaker 1: got Pete Carroll down there just right. I can always
Speaker 1: you can always hear the winter green gum chomping between
Speaker 1: the back bowlers. It's funny, yeah, that Pete, you know,
Speaker 1: still always positive, always completely confident that the most optimistic
Speaker 1: scenario plays out. That's just Pete Carroll. I mean that
Speaker 1: he's not concerned. I think, I think, I mean now
Speaker 1: that we know that, I mean, he didn't want to
Speaker 1: even let it out from his own internal thoughts there
Speaker 1: at the end. But he's just so excited. He's so
Speaker 1: excited to be turning the page from this domineerian personality
Speaker 1: that was running his his franchise, when he has so
Speaker 1: many different offensive options that he laid out that Drew
Speaker 1: lock Ginou can do very well. Well. It's funny Greg
Speaker 1: that you, um, we're able to drill into the mind
Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll, because I have drilled right into the
Speaker 1: mind of that quarterback that you mentioned, Geno Smith. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I thought you said that, Russell. This is it.
Speaker 1: This is my moment, my stage, and no one's gonna
Speaker 1: take it for me. Last time I was in training
Speaker 1: camp with a starting job in my back pocket, some
Speaker 1: Jabroni teammate broke my jaw because I skipped out on
Speaker 1: a high school football camp without noticed and refused to
Speaker 1: reimburse the cost of airfare. My teammate had fronted me
Speaker 1: in good faith. What a jerk. That guy was totally
Speaker 1: in in the wrong. But I'm always right. I'm Geno
Speaker 1: Smith coach Carol traded for Drew Lock. That's funny as hell.
Speaker 1: Beat knows that dude can't hold my giant jockstrap. Let's
Speaker 1: strap Drew in the Gino coasted this summer. Then watch
Speaker 1: him plummet to a horrifying death. Yeah that's right. I'm
Speaker 1: straight up murdering the competition. This Baker Mayfield coming to town. Please.
Speaker 1: The only thing that dude could beat me in is
Speaker 1: commercial revenue and a lack of troubling d U I
Speaker 1: R s. And that's only one nothing plenty of ball
Speaker 1: game there, mental checklist time, baby win, a starting job?
Speaker 1: Check when m v P check, when super Bowl check?
Speaker 1: Find proof Earth is flat? Sideways check? Oh yeah, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great year. Still chasing that flat
Speaker 1: earth concept. I like that he's he doesn't give up.
Speaker 1: Well he doesn't dress because I would have thought I
Speaker 1: would have been the one who could get inside the mind.
Speaker 1: But you you really did it. Um. He backed off
Speaker 1: that flat earth stuff publicly, but you know he thinks
Speaker 1: about it all right, And you know, and Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: has some theories of his own, so the two of
Speaker 1: them kind of go hand in hand. Interesting. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be an interesting season in Seattle based on what we
Speaker 1: just heard. Well, I hope the murdering was metaphorical, you know,
Speaker 1: on the field, um, because otherwise it be a little
Speaker 1: to be troubling. But again, we can't use any of
Speaker 1: this him. No, it's but if anybody wants to, you know,
Speaker 1: shoot Drew Lock, the d M that might have ability
Speaker 1: to maybe just a heads up, watch your back. I
Speaker 1: don't think we're supposed to tell Drew Lock based on
Speaker 1: the ground rules. I think surprised by trust tree here.
Speaker 1: That's all right, all right, was another edition of MS
Speaker 1: Sipping on Vena checking on. I assume you have someone
Speaker 1: from the Seattle Seahawks. I do not. I am traveling.
Speaker 1: I'm taking us to Tampa, where we're going to get
Speaker 1: inside the head of Bruce Arians and sometimes it bugs me.
Speaker 1: Tom retires, then Tom un retires, then I retire. Kind of,
Speaker 1: let's be real, baby, I was bumped upstairs, classic lever
Speaker 1: poll on the old guy. So now Tom and left
Speaker 1: witch Huddle is a twosome to design the weekly game
Speaker 1: plan without me. Classy moved by Lefty after I went
Speaker 1: to bat for him ten thou times. Some times I
Speaker 1: tell myself trust nobody bright side. I'm still making a
Speaker 1: fat paycheck, still get to eat in the team cafeteria,
Speaker 1: which by the way, has hugely improved since they replaced
Speaker 1: that last chef's super dull Jessica Yardley with this new guy,
Speaker 1: El Gucci. El Gucci has done incredible things to the menu.
Speaker 1: Wonderful pork tenderloin yesterday for lunch, every morning, waffles dipped
Speaker 1: in butter and foreign syrups. There was a fish fry
Speaker 1: last Friday, which I was first in line for. El
Speaker 1: Gucci has his own way of crispin French fries and
Speaker 1: then serving them with multiple dipping sauces ranch, chipotle, sweet chili, honey, barbecue, Dijon.
Speaker 1: The other day, battleship for NET came up to me
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria and there I was huddled over a
Speaker 1: massive second lunch. Two dense Try Tips sandwiches, a big
Speaker 1: bowl of spaghetti undermeat sauce, a green salad with honey
Speaker 1: dipped croutons, and a massive tumbler whiskey. What you've been
Speaker 1: working on these days for Net? Asked me nothing, baby,
Speaker 1: I said nothing at all. Wow. That checks out feels
Speaker 1: um feels on point. It feels like, Um, I have
Speaker 1: some concern level for Bruce's health, you know, because he's
Speaker 1: been You see him puttering around in that golf cart
Speaker 1: when he was coaching last year. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's like a lot of exercise. Um. And I
Speaker 1: definitely it seems like al Gucci, great food, but dangerous
Speaker 1: that he's eating almost too much. It's a problematic path potentially. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bruce is he loves life and he's not a guy
Speaker 1: that's always as careful as he needs to be. So
Speaker 1: hopefully he's mixing in some salads of the commissary. Um.
Speaker 1: I I would love to see, honestly, So since the
Speaker 1: announcement came that he was moving upstairs, what was that
Speaker 1: in February January February if you gave him a piece
Speaker 1: of loose leaf paper and a pen in and said, please,
Speaker 1: if you could, Bruce, list everything you've accomplished work wise
Speaker 1: since you've moved into this front office role. I would
Speaker 1: love to see it. And he can't bullshit. He needs
Speaker 1: to actually list tangible work that he's done. He's probably
Speaker 1: made half a million dollars in salaries. Right. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he has a boss, but I I think
Speaker 1: it would be good if he doesn't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like I am. You know. We're still working hard
Speaker 1: and I want to do the best job we can.
Speaker 1: But I have slight arians tendencies here because our huddle
Speaker 1: has really gone up and not since we moved into
Speaker 1: Engle several and it's free so much like for arians
Speaker 1: um and I schedule my time at work around service.
Speaker 1: I actually had to run in yesterday to just get
Speaker 1: the microphone to bring to Japan, you know. And I
Speaker 1: and I showed up specifically to get the end of
Speaker 1: breakfast and waited around for the beginning of laton before
Speaker 1: that eleven am. It off right ten thirty, so you
Speaker 1: have to get there before ten thirty, hang out to
Speaker 1: a couple, you know, talk around, and then get that
Speaker 1: lunch and sometimes then we'll take a podcast if it
Speaker 1: was a day we do that. Come back for kind
Speaker 1: of lunch too, which is like a souper a little
Speaker 1: lunch part two. Yeah, they've got pizza slices um free
Speaker 1: all the time. There was a initially when we moved
Speaker 1: into the building, they said, you know, it's going to
Speaker 1: be free for I think September, just so that people who,
Speaker 1: you know, the anxiety of returning to work, like, let's
Speaker 1: kind of grease the skids, give you some nice food,
Speaker 1: and the pricing the cost never came. It just was
Speaker 1: remain free, which is sort of an anti corporate move there.
Speaker 1: Typically they're like taking water coolers away and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Not here. And during our contract negotiations and you know,
Speaker 1: you you have different options and you're weighing what you
Speaker 1: want to do next um with the podcast and in
Speaker 1: our careers, and you know, we ultimately you know, when
Speaker 1: I was asked, you know what what made the difference?
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, yeah, you know great, you know,
Speaker 1: great people work here. It's great. You know, the studio
Speaker 1: is great. We've had such a great run here at NFL.
Speaker 1: We think we could keep it up going forward. But really,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to get into my internal monologue, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the free food at the much improved promissary,
Speaker 1: Like it starts there and ends there. It was at
Speaker 1: least of my thinking in terms of making a final decision.
Speaker 1: And that's an internal monologue, Greg, you got another one?
Speaker 1: I do all right? Let's do it. This is inside
Speaker 1: the mind of Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I really think for me,
Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of funny how this off season
Speaker 1: being portrayed in the media. We're all gonna miss Devant.
Speaker 1: I love Devanty. You saw the photos on Instagram. That's proof, right,
Speaker 1: that's real mhmm to himself. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: people really saw the results of the m v P
Speaker 1: Award voting the last two years. One name I didn't
Speaker 1: see at the top, Davante Adams didn't. He didn't see
Speaker 1: him get a vote. But I and kind of people
Speaker 1: maybe should should go see those results the m v
Speaker 1: P Award the last two years. There is one name
Speaker 1: that that's there. It's pretty consistent. So it's like I
Speaker 1: told Goody last year, I think I've been pretty incredible
Speaker 1: and based on my years, yeah, I think it'd be
Speaker 1: nice if everyone out there just recognized. Now, if there's
Speaker 1: one thing I know to be true, it's that inside
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's brain, there's a lot of self congratulatve with
Speaker 1: some congratulations going on so vindictive. I mean, he he
Speaker 1: just he needs to look for someone to to push
Speaker 1: back against, and he sees he sees what's out there
Speaker 1: and this is the closest thing. Oh, people, people aren't
Speaker 1: ranking there are the Packers in their top five offenses?
Speaker 1: Are people so worried? Oh, the Packers are gonna be
Speaker 1: really missing Davante Adams. The Packers are about one man
Speaker 1: and one man only. This will be a good test.
Speaker 1: They haven't quite stacked the roster in this favor. There
Speaker 1: are some other quarterbacks that have gotten better UM support
Speaker 1: this offseason, in my opinion, and one of them is
Speaker 1: a guy that's about into his second year up there
Speaker 1: in New England. Well, summer break is here. I'm back
Speaker 1: home in Jacksonville and it feels good. Drinking natty lights,
Speaker 1: blasting my favorite band, Creed, taking the pontoon boat out
Speaker 1: on the lake with Becky jog Head and all my
Speaker 1: other friends. We deserve this. I deserve this. I've worked
Speaker 1: hard on my body and game all offseason so guys
Speaker 1: like Craig rosen Bloom can make snarky comments at my
Speaker 1: He won't be able to make snarky comments at my
Speaker 1: expense this year. But hanging out with babes and bros
Speaker 1: doesn't stop my mind from wandering, and at night I
Speaker 1: forget it. I can't sleep, I can hardly breathe. That's
Speaker 1: all I can think about. Who is my offensive coordinator?
Speaker 1: Is it Mr QB sneak on thirty nine Joe Judge?
Speaker 1: I can't be Is it Patricia? That Patricia? Like I?
Speaker 1: I locked his keys in his car at minicamp twice.
Speaker 1: I know enough by now that it's not appropriate to
Speaker 1: ask questions or have creative thoughts with my team. But
Speaker 1: every other quarterback knows who their coaches. Why can't I?
Speaker 1: It's almost like, hey, stop, what Belichick? Is that you?
Speaker 1: How could you be in my head? It's impossible. You
Speaker 1: will do as you're told to take orders from superiors
Speaker 1: without question. But do you understand? I just do you understand?
Speaker 1: Grumble grumble, yes, sir? Okay, no more Creed on the
Speaker 1: pontoon only bon Jovi. Yes, yes, coach, My life is
Speaker 1: a nightmare. Wow, it's not easy up there in the
Speaker 1: Patriot Way. I mean, it's it's Belichick's next frontier. We
Speaker 1: think we can get inside the mind. He's inside the
Speaker 1: mind of ninety different men, the monitoring their conversation. He
Speaker 1: waited a long time to penetrate the mind of Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: to this pivotal moment where there was doubt. It's a
Speaker 1: big finish. It's a big finish. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of his skills, the greatest skills in the legendary coaching
Speaker 1: run is that ability to mind meld. It's funny because
Speaker 1: when I when I hear like Mac Jones's voice inside
Speaker 1: of his head, for some reason, it's like more like, well,
Speaker 1: I hope the guys are really going to catch the
Speaker 1: balls this year. That's just I don't know why. That's
Speaker 1: I really gotta have fun playing the football with the guys.
Speaker 1: It sounds like from Jacksonville. That kind of opened up
Speaker 1: a whole other world for me. Yeah, I thought you
Speaker 1: were going into that. I didn't. Why does that open up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess that kind of makes sense. He seems like
Speaker 1: a like a sort of southern bro, which is what
Speaker 1: Jacksonville I imagined to be. Alabama. Yeah, I mean, no
Speaker 1: disrespe to anybody listening from Duval, but I thought he
Speaker 1: was like a good old boy from I guess from
Speaker 1: Alabama or the surrounding area up there. I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's rich that in that in North Florida, you know,
Speaker 1: it's very uh it's very southern Laurabama. Is that I've
Speaker 1: been there, had I've had a few wild nights at Florabama. Again,
Speaker 1: how come we didn't get any of these Rosenthal wild nights?
Speaker 1: You speak about them with such frequency. Did any of
Speaker 1: them happen post nine eleven? Greg? Uh? Wait nine eleven? No? No? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I had some wild nights in my life,
Speaker 1: but I was out of college and and there might
Speaker 1: have been a few trips back there for weddings and whatnot,
Speaker 1: but not not at Florabama. I mean, you're trying to
Speaker 1: implicate Greg, and no, I'm just saying that most of
Speaker 1: greg wild tales happened from an era before um even
Speaker 1: nine eleven. It's it seems all right. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure you weren't read. It was an important
Speaker 1: sort of um Greg moment in the country that was
Speaker 1: like a before and after. I see where you're going,
Speaker 1: But I was out here in Los Angeles at the time,
Speaker 1: working at Hallway Pictures, which produced uh Johnson's Family and
Speaker 1: Vacation starring Cedric the Entertainers. In terms of the time
Speaker 1: space continuum continuum there mark that if our theory holds true,
Speaker 1: that Greg was born age thirty two standing up? Does
Speaker 1: he even know what nine eleven is? Is he just
Speaker 1: playing along right now? Well that's a that's a rich mystery.
Speaker 1: And not all these two lane stories are just part
Speaker 1: of some amazing backstory that I pre wrote. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: that's given me a lot of credit. Alright, Mark finished.
Speaker 1: Well this is strange because um, I we must be
Speaker 1: LinkedIn in this exercise some agreement. We're using these powers
Speaker 1: because I also have a new England patriot, um who
Speaker 1: is going to be very important to to Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: And that his first round pick um Cole Strange. And
Speaker 1: when I was um penetrating the mind of culture strange. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out because he was doing
Speaker 1: something weird. He all of his internal monologues are done
Speaker 1: in dear diary format. That's how he thinks. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that appeals to Bill Belichick, and that's
Speaker 1: why they you know, maybe drafted over drafted him. But
Speaker 1: this is here we'll go here we go. Yeah, interesting
Speaker 1: dear diary. I heard the chuckles when I was drafted.
Speaker 1: Of course I did. Who's this guy? And why is
Speaker 1: he going twenty nine. Overall, the little blogger boys won't
Speaker 1: be giggling so hard when I grind a dolphin's interior
Speaker 1: alignment into dust four minutes into week one. Those little
Speaker 1: keyboardists won't know what to say when I make all
Speaker 1: pro after seventeen pristine starts without allowing a single sack
Speaker 1: of mac Daddy Jones. My physical body glows like a diamond.
Speaker 1: This morning, I climbed the mountain located at the edge
Speaker 1: of my apartment complex, upward and through the hilly regions
Speaker 1: to where few trees remained. There, I encountered a billy goat.
Speaker 1: It stood frozen, its eyes piercing into mine. Through some
Speaker 1: hidden power of nature, the goats spoke to me telepathically
Speaker 1: something many humans do not understand, said the beast, its
Speaker 1: eyes now blazing red. Is that your experience here is
Speaker 1: simply a vision, a dream of sorts, but not in
Speaker 1: the way that you think of dreams. Is football real?
Speaker 1: I asked, not especially, said the goat. Are you real?
Speaker 1: I asked? Can I answer your question with a question?
Speaker 1: Said the animal? Okay, Would you believe me if I
Speaker 1: said I was your ninth grade girlfriend, Nikki Exxon in
Speaker 1: the form of a mountain goat. But Nicki Xxon married
Speaker 1: Chris Trigger. No, that's a false illusion. I am Nicki
Speaker 1: x song and I'm still in love with you and
Speaker 1: think about you every day. Cole, I have to go now,
Speaker 1: I said, I have to lift weights the facility. Then
Speaker 1: I walked down the mountain and got into my truck
Speaker 1: and drove the Patriot Place where strength and conditioning coach
Speaker 1: ted Frumpy spotted me on the dumbbell. Mm hmm, wow,
Speaker 1: it's I love that both you and Cole are are
Speaker 1: fans of the phrase my physical body UM and UM,
Speaker 1: and I feel like um. This is almost a dream
Speaker 1: for you, for you to mark that you would run
Speaker 1: into um, a high school or middle school ex girlfriend
Speaker 1: in the form of a goat like you, You would
Speaker 1: love that I felt connect more connected. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: like you know, I mind the the minds of many
Speaker 1: NFL players to do this exercise and has stood out
Speaker 1: to me. I feel a connected kind of um brotherhood
Speaker 1: to him, knowing what we know. You know what we
Speaker 1: learned minutes earlier. I would be concerned if I'm cold,
Speaker 1: that Nikki Exxon could potentially be in great danger as
Speaker 1: seen as a distraction and one that needed to be muzzled,
Speaker 1: or I guess industrialized. Um, if goats being processed, people
Speaker 1: people eat some goats, right well, Or that Nikki x
Speaker 1: on x um um potentially is Bill Belichick. Um, and
Speaker 1: she's not. It's not really Nikki's levels. He's turning into
Speaker 1: the clown from it where he has the ability to
Speaker 1: take on different forms and then psychological and physical menace.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a heavy thing to be Belichick
Speaker 1: and inside all these minds because he has been open
Speaker 1: up to many of the darkest secrets of the known universe.
Speaker 1: And I hope he can keep his focus as coach,
Speaker 1: knowing what he now knows about Nikki and the goat
Speaker 1: and and everything. All the implications Bill Belichick is pennywise,
Speaker 1: it actually checks out. Um, all right, there you go again.
Speaker 1: Anything you heard here, Try not I know you can't
Speaker 1: eliminate it entirely from your mind's eye, but just try
Speaker 1: to understand that these were private thoughts and m and
Speaker 1: to respect them in that sense. Thank you to everybody. Yeah, great, great, right,
Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, we've we've done this in
Speaker 1: the debt of the off season a few times. I
Speaker 1: feel like we need to bring this back on a
Speaker 1: Tuesday or different show during the season. I think getting
Speaker 1: inside their minds during the season, I think would be
Speaker 1: a fun expert g s. All right, that's it for
Speaker 1: another week of shows here in the off season, Greg,
Speaker 1: you will no head off to Japan. Got a got
Speaker 1: a big championship game in the y m c A
Speaker 1: Bronze League coming up on Saturday first. So your coach
Speaker 1: you sent a text your coach, the coach of your
Speaker 1: son's team quit like on short notice, and you've been
Speaker 1: thrust into the role of head coach at the most
Speaker 1: critical juncture of the season. That hindsight, he sort of
Speaker 1: groom me he needed extra help and was a little
Speaker 1: inconsistent of with his attendance and had various reasons for
Speaker 1: it throughout the season, and then he just was gone. Um,
Speaker 1: and I've had to take over, and um, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to run a basketball practice like pastad If
Speaker 1: you watched Winning Time on HBO, I feel like more
Speaker 1: like the Dave McGinnis or I guess Dan Campbell with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins would be one I would rather be or
Speaker 1: Joe Vit. You know that. But but I'm struggling and
Speaker 1: we're in the championship game against a team that is
Speaker 1: nine in one and whose coach takes it so seriously.
Speaker 1: It makes me that's the best if you could beat
Speaker 1: If you could beat the team with the coach that
Speaker 1: takes kids sports way too seriously, it's so much more rewarding.
Speaker 1: But we're we're five and five. We're heavy, heavy underdogs
Speaker 1: in this. We gotta want to take the other gentleman
Speaker 1: to task. But what kind of person quits the team
Speaker 1: as coach just before the championship game? Why not can
Speaker 1: you not maybe cap it off with one more constant?
Speaker 1: He left me in a tough spot a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Probably didn't think we were going to the championship.
Speaker 1: We've had a nice orchestrated this playoff run. Two and
Speaker 1: one games, the games that take care of themselves. The
Speaker 1: practices are some of the longest hours of my life.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: Are you playing big or what's your rotation going to be? Well,
Speaker 1: they're six years old. You try to give everyone some
Speaker 1: playing time. But I know the way this guy works.
Speaker 1: He's not taking his best players out. So I'm definitely
Speaker 1: doing like a box and one given putting our best
Speaker 1: defensive player on their one superstar, and just that's my
Speaker 1: main innovation, hoping for the best is Walker has seen
Speaker 1: an uptick in playing time since you took over. Now
Speaker 1: I almost overcorrect and trying to do it. But he's
Speaker 1: he's solid, like he would be in the middle, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he wouldn't be playing the whole game anyways, like
Speaker 1: some of the we do have a couple of stars.
Speaker 1: When you announced this, Graver had some very good ideas
Speaker 1: for practices and stuff. Would you would you ever consist
Speaker 1: consider bringing him on as an assistant coach? I would
Speaker 1: love to. I wish you had sent me those suggestions
Speaker 1: and I could have had over the Santa Monica y
Speaker 1: on Thursday for the last practice or Wednesday, and but
Speaker 1: I could have used your help because I looked at
Speaker 1: that clock and I was like, wait, we got twenty
Speaker 1: more minutes. What am I gonna do? What did you
Speaker 1: suggest grammar? Oh? I suggested layup lines three. Man, we've
Speaker 1: a nice scrimmage. Scrimmage always eats up the scrimmages, but
Speaker 1: they the scrimmages the standby in coaching youth. Yeah, teams,
Speaker 1: you got twenty five minutes left, uh, scrimmage? How about
Speaker 1: like a game of course, don't the kids play a
Speaker 1: game of horse with like you know, like a ice
Speaker 1: cream Sundays as as a surprise that that would take
Speaker 1: thirty minutes? Right? It just like you're living kicking and screaming,
Speaker 1: but with basketball instead of soccer, which is great. Well,
Speaker 1: just know the kids. The kids think you know everything.
Speaker 1: It's the parents that you have to win over because
Speaker 1: they're watching, and they're watching. Yeah, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: letting like the ones who are genuinely talented. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm letting them their kids down that they're not
Speaker 1: really getting any learned. Greg, you've tugged them to will
Speaker 1: follow you into taking them to the championship game. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. Like yourself. If you know, if anything,
Speaker 1: you can turn to the parents and say eat it,
Speaker 1: they should. They should applaud what you've done. Well, what
Speaker 1: one of them could have stepped in and seem support
Speaker 1: if they're they're all nice. Just think about this too, Mark,
Speaker 1: think about the big I'm assuming Greg the coach is
Speaker 1: a bigger man. He gets angry at something happens in
Speaker 1: the game. He says something to Greg you know, Greg
Speaker 1: has a way of saying things back to people I
Speaker 1: won't And just imagine what would happen if Greg hits
Speaker 1: him with a little Greg bomb, if he keeps complaining
Speaker 1: to the officials and stuff like that. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say something. I think I need to go to
Speaker 1: this game and see how this. It's my call for
Speaker 1: another Peacemaker summit. I know this guy. I haven't said,
Speaker 1: I haven't said a word in in our matchups, but
Speaker 1: it's on everyone's radar. Believe there's always that guy. You
Speaker 1: know exactly without ever having seen or know the man,
Speaker 1: I know exactly the type anyway. All right, that's a
Speaker 1: good luck to you in the championship. When is it
Speaker 1: Saturday morning? Alright? Good luck in the championship and uh
Speaker 1: trip to Japan and Mark will be you and I
Speaker 1: UH with Cavon Thibodeaux on Monday. We gotta figure out
Speaker 1: how we're gonna move that relationship forward closer to friendship status. Well,
Speaker 1: I have full confidence that we do. Each time we
Speaker 1: meet with him, Um, you know, the friendship becomes more intense,
Speaker 1: and so I think that that that is the direction. Beautiful,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, everybody for listening. Enjoy your weekend,
Speaker 1: have fun, be safe, head to putters and gutters if
Speaker 1: you're in the Marble Falls area. If, even if you don't,
Speaker 1: just remember one thing, he'd the call