Speaker 1: So writer, you are our traveling post. You have been
Speaker 1: in a million different places. Where are you today today?
Speaker 1: I am in Humboldt, California, deep deep in northern California. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I know I mentioned on the show before
Speaker 1: I did I've soldo parenting for three months, and so
Speaker 1: my wife came home. Actually she came home for a
Speaker 1: weekend in the middle of her shoot. Um O, our
Speaker 1: son had a rock show and so she came home
Speaker 1: for like forty eight hours for that. It was crazy
Speaker 1: and hectic. You can we can do that real quick.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, We're gonna need to go back to seven
Speaker 1: year old had a rod rock show, you know. Yes,
Speaker 1: So there's an amaz is in um place. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: like one of these school of rock type you know,
Speaker 1: uh kids music classes, um kind of place and um
Speaker 1: it's called kid Row in Los Angeles, and so my
Speaker 1: son has been going there forever and you know, they
Speaker 1: basically form a band and learned songs and so he
Speaker 1: performed some imagine dragon songs and some other Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was amazing anyway, but that's much cooler than a
Speaker 1: geology show, which was the other option that it could
Speaker 1: have been, and that not that that's a bad thing,
Speaker 1: but but still a whole another way to go. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, so she came on for forty eight hours,
Speaker 1: and while she was home, she could see how, like,
Speaker 1: you know, overwhelmed I was with parenting and whatnot. And
Speaker 1: not only that, but we had this plan. We're going
Speaker 1: to Alaska for three weeks this summer. Um. We're calling
Speaker 1: it Alaskan Summer. And uh. She was like, you need
Speaker 1: to go away and have like a week of just
Speaker 1: writing by yourself before you're going to be able to
Speaker 1: relax on our Alaskan summer. And I was like, thank you.
Speaker 1: So I'm in the middle of that right now. So
Speaker 1: you got a hapen up in Humboldt and I'm just, yeah,
Speaker 1: getting some time away before we head into a family
Speaker 1: vacation for three weeks. Writer, I already saying your praises
Speaker 1: for being able to single parent for three months, um,
Speaker 1: because I have two children and I occasionally single parent
Speaker 1: for like an hour or two here and it's really hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just really hard to find any alone time. And
Speaker 1: that's what like, literally I've been up here for two
Speaker 1: days and like yesterday it was just the weirdest sensation.
Speaker 1: I kept looking around being like when when somebody gonna
Speaker 1: tell me what I have to do or where I
Speaker 1: have to pick somebody up or go do something to
Speaker 1: be cooking, And it was like, oh, no, I get
Speaker 1: to decide. Uh. Yeah, it's been it's been nice. And
Speaker 1: have so much sympathy for you know, full time solo
Speaker 1: parents out there, especially with multiple kids. It's just you
Speaker 1: never have you know. It's like when you have a kid,
Speaker 1: it's like there's a part of your brain that's just
Speaker 1: constantly activated. Right, It's like you're always aware of your child.
Speaker 1: And and when you have a partner you can share
Speaker 1: that load. Uh, and when you don't, it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that part of your brain never gets turned off. So
Speaker 1: it's just exhausting. It's like a mentally exhausting off. You
Speaker 1: are you know, able to get some time to sleep
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like you never quite feel alone. So
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's well. Will Where are you? I am
Speaker 1: in an undisclosed location. My testimony is tomorrow, so I'm
Speaker 1: very excited. Now I am. I am right outside of
Speaker 1: Chicago for Fan Expo Chicago. Uh so big Comic Con
Speaker 1: and uh we were all here. This is this is
Speaker 1: I think I was with you. We were all in Chicago,
Speaker 1: weren't we can't yeh, that's yeah, that's the one like
Speaker 1: right near the airport basis. Yes, so I'm like watching
Speaker 1: planes land as we speak right now. And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was bought by a much bigger company. So this
Speaker 1: is I was in Denver last weekend, Chicago this weekend.
Speaker 1: Then I go from here to Hartford, then from there
Speaker 1: to Boston, and then from there to Nova Scotia, and
Speaker 1: then from there to San Francisco. So it's it is
Speaker 1: the kind of mayor of the con. Yes, we're doing
Speaker 1: We're on our twentieth anniversary of Kim Possible, so we
Speaker 1: are going to going to do that run, and then
Speaker 1: we're doing our our other podcast, I Hear Voices podcast
Speaker 1: live at all of these big events. So it's a
Speaker 1: ton of fun we're having us. So it's a lot
Speaker 1: of traveling. Writer went away to be alone, and you
Speaker 1: are meeting as many people as humanly things exactly. And
Speaker 1: I just got over COVID so I can hug, kiss,
Speaker 1: lick anybody I want for three months. It's great. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just here in l A. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere I don't do anything. I just don't
Speaker 1: give you that. You don't go anywhere. I absolutely disagree
Speaker 1: with you. Don't do anything. You're doing nine every hour. No,
Speaker 1: you're right. I do a lot of things. I do
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I just do them inside my
Speaker 1: house or in the immediate vicinity around my house. UM.
Speaker 1: I am really excited for our episode today. We are
Speaker 1: recapping episode number one oh seven. Grandma was a rolling Stone,
Speaker 1: and we have our very first non Boy Meets World
Speaker 1: related guest and her name is Lauren Laptus. Please welcome
Speaker 1: Lauren Laptus to the pod. Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: We are so excited. Please. I love the I love
Speaker 1: the podcast. I was actually just listening to the episode
Speaker 1: that came out today right before we started, so I
Speaker 1: didn't get to catch up completely, but I'm pretty caught up. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's so good. I was telling Danielle. I was like,
Speaker 1: I I was so surprised listening to the show, Like
Speaker 1: how honest you guys are about it. And I think
Speaker 1: it makes the podcast so good because it's like I,
Speaker 1: I mean, I did a podcast called Raised by TV
Speaker 1: that writer was on that is was like a nostalgia
Speaker 1: Deep Die with my friend John Gabriel, like going back
Speaker 1: into like all the TV we loved, We talked about
Speaker 1: all this stuff, but like hearing you guys talk about
Speaker 1: your experience as kids doing the show, it just takes
Speaker 1: it to another level. It's so good, Like it's so
Speaker 1: interesting to listen to, and the behind the scenes stuff
Speaker 1: is like blowing my mind. So I love like go
Speaker 1: back and watch this kind of stuff, but to hear
Speaker 1: what was going on is like amazing. Well that means
Speaker 1: a lot coming from you, because you are an absolute
Speaker 1: podcast pro. You are most known for freedom and comedy
Speaker 1: Bang Bang, and you are Emmy nominated. You were in
Speaker 1: Orange is the New Black. You're the wrong missy. I
Speaker 1: mean your list of credits go on and on. Um.
Speaker 1: You're also one of my nearest and dearest and closest friends. Yes,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we're just really excited to have you here.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit about like what
Speaker 1: your history or story with Boy Meat's World is. Did
Speaker 1: you watch it as a kid? Oh my god, Yes,
Speaker 1: I watched um every episode five billion times. Um, I
Speaker 1: think I definitely watched it a ton. I watched t
Speaker 1: G I F every week for sure. That was like
Speaker 1: very exciting appointment TV for me. Um, yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: it all and so and I've definitely watched it as
Speaker 1: an adult as well. It's it's comfort food to me,
Speaker 1: Like I full house, step by Stop, Boy, Meat's World,
Speaker 1: all this stuff like fills like a certain like little
Speaker 1: you know, blanket whole inside of my body. It's so
Speaker 1: funny how that's true for so many people you know
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know, is it just the specific
Speaker 1: era or is that true of everybody for television shows
Speaker 1: that they grow up with. I don't everybody for television. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's a bit because like doing doing my show,
Speaker 1: like we had people on who were older than me,
Speaker 1: and like hearing the shows they cared about from like
Speaker 1: the sixties and stuff, I was like, okay, so it
Speaker 1: feels that way just to revisit that stuff no matter what,
Speaker 1: because it's such a perfect you know, it's not perfect
Speaker 1: time in everyone's life, but it's a safe time and
Speaker 1: that in your brain that you don't know everything yet,
Speaker 1: like you can just kind of completely disconnect by watching
Speaker 1: television because you're not really thinking about anything else, like
Speaker 1: as a kid. Yeah, it's it's amazing for people with
Speaker 1: anxiety too, because it brings him right back to a
Speaker 1: time before all that happened. I mean, how much how
Speaker 1: often do I talk about mash And that's because that's
Speaker 1: sure it does. It's that same thing for me, that
Speaker 1: same feeling of like, oh, I don't have to think,
Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything. I just have to
Speaker 1: go back to a time where I'm sitting in front
Speaker 1: of the television watching Hawkeye, you know. And it's been
Speaker 1: a while for me since I've like, um gone back
Speaker 1: and watched a lot of shows, meaning of just a
Speaker 1: few years because I was doing that podcast, but like
Speaker 1: doing the podcast kind of um took it to a
Speaker 1: different level for me because I was like revisiting them
Speaker 1: so deeply that I started to have less comfort from
Speaker 1: them because I was, yeah, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: But like yesterday, I watched this episode that we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about, and I was like, oh, I should
Speaker 1: do this every day. This feels amazing, and I'm back.
Speaker 1: I was like on the couch, like this is good.
Speaker 1: This is I'm not thinking about because also as an actor,
Speaker 1: I think like watching I watched a lot of reality
Speaker 1: because I like to not think about acting and and
Speaker 1: like going back to what the shows I watched as
Speaker 1: a kid, I wasn't thinking about it that way. I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking that you guys were real people, so like
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I wasn't going like, oh I heard
Speaker 1: something about that guy or he's you know whatever, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know anything. I'm just watching a
Speaker 1: show of like just a play that feels good. Who
Speaker 1: was your favorite character there? Oh my god? I mean,
Speaker 1: well I loved you all, Um, I love Topanga. Topango
Speaker 1: was kind of like, um, I think I can safely
Speaker 1: say it's like everybody's goal in a different way. Like
Speaker 1: girls wanted to be her, boys wanted to date her.
Speaker 1: It's like she's such a like perfect character, so sweet,
Speaker 1: so funny. Um, and you played it so beautifully and
Speaker 1: you're so cute. It was like that was a character
Speaker 1: that I think everybody loved. But writer, I mean, you
Speaker 1: had the haircut, which I know we've talked about. I
Speaker 1: mean the haircut was epic, like at that point in time,
Speaker 1: and it was so interesting to hear you talk about
Speaker 1: how they kind of made you have this haircut. But
Speaker 1: it's like this is trauma. I am. I'm living tram
Speaker 1: so sorry girl, like in like middle school. It was like,
Speaker 1: that's the ideal boy haircut. So cute. Um and obviously, well,
Speaker 1: you had like some of the funniest moments on the show.
Speaker 1: I think without a doubt hearing you talk about your
Speaker 1: self consciousness watching it back is so funny because I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I watched it this episode. It's an early episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: season five, He's going to be like, let's watch that again.
Speaker 1: Can we roll that back? I was hysterical. This man
Speaker 1: is not insecure as it goes on. He's honest about
Speaker 1: those first couple episodes. This brings up a very important
Speaker 1: question in my opinion. I watched, we obviously all watched
Speaker 1: episode number one oh seven. Grandma was a rolling stone.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it and a little have a lot
Speaker 1: to say about this. This was finally the very first
Speaker 1: episode you guys filmed, right, We've been talking about that
Speaker 1: for a long time since the first one. Because I
Speaker 1: randomly could not sleep the other night and then I
Speaker 1: was like, what was the name of that woman on
Speaker 1: the show with the talking buddy? And I got on
Speaker 1: my phone in the middle of the night in the
Speaker 1: dark figured out that it was Nicky Cox and then
Speaker 1: I read a whole Wikipedia. I learned a lot. Well,
Speaker 1: she was my first girlfriend. My first Los Angeles was
Speaker 1: Nicky Cox. She was fifteen, I was sixteen. It was
Speaker 1: like we dated for like a month. I think we
Speaker 1: held hands once. It was my mind is blown because
Speaker 1: then well that wasn't in the wicki um, but they
Speaker 1: took it out. Somebody edited that out. They didn't mention
Speaker 1: that she was Nicky Cox. Thank you, just like we're
Speaker 1: gonna getting ready to bob cat. She was. My mind
Speaker 1: was blown. She was yeah, and David Kevin I was like,
Speaker 1: how did that go down? I want to hear the
Speaker 1: podcast about that. Yeah, it's Nicky and I reconnected like
Speaker 1: four or five years ago and had a really nice
Speaker 1: kind of email exchange for a good two or three months,
Speaker 1: and then she dropped off the planet again. So she
Speaker 1: she does that occasionally, but she's gonna totally sweet. Wait,
Speaker 1: so where does this episode number one oh seven fall
Speaker 1: in the order of how you guys shot at them?
Speaker 1: I believe right right before right after Corris Alternative Friends. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this was either are like third or fourth one
Speaker 1: or right after Coreris Alternative Friends. This might have been
Speaker 1: immediately after that I feel like we started we started
Speaker 1: to get on track near here, didn't we Like now
Speaker 1: they kind of started to air where we shot them
Speaker 1: a little bit. The first few were jumbled, and then
Speaker 1: they kind of started to go in order. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this is clearly where they were writing one for you Will.
Speaker 1: I mean this this, I mean besides obviously the guest
Speaker 1: you know, the Grandma storyline, It feels like this is
Speaker 1: where and I remember filming this one and watching those
Speaker 1: scenes with you and realizing how funny you were. I
Speaker 1: think that this was where we were sort of Eric
Speaker 1: finally found his voice. That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: I actually was thinking this was like the first episode
Speaker 1: you guys filmed, and I was going to say, how
Speaker 1: did why did you get worse after this one? Because
Speaker 1: you were chest stride? This is the episode where he
Speaker 1: hit his stride. Yeah, this is the one. This is
Speaker 1: this is like Eric, Eric was Eric, and a lot
Speaker 1: was first time for I mean, I remember finally getting
Speaker 1: the stones, the gall to to go. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go talk to Michael Jacobs. I mean, he was this
Speaker 1: mythical creature that I was sixteen at the time, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I I, oh my god, but I
Speaker 1: went and I actually I said Mark, because I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I knew his name. Michael, Um, I want to
Speaker 1: do a scene with William Daniels. And this was what
Speaker 1: I think maybe two weeks before he did this one,
Speaker 1: and he said, all right, well we're writing something, but
Speaker 1: I'll make sure there's more in there for it. And
Speaker 1: then he came up to me, it's like, you're gonna
Speaker 1: like what you got. You're gonna like what you got,
Speaker 1: and so this I like, I asked, like, please let
Speaker 1: me work with It worked like the two of the
Speaker 1: Never We we We've talked in a lot of these
Speaker 1: episodes about pairing people up, like they keep trying to
Speaker 1: pair people up, and you never know what's gonna work
Speaker 1: and what's gonna match and what's not gonna match. And
Speaker 1: it worked. It was for some reason, Eric and Bill,
Speaker 1: you know, Eric and Feenie worked together and kind of
Speaker 1: then became the template for a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: that happened in the future. I mean it was it
Speaker 1: was more Feenie and Corey early, but then it really
Speaker 1: like I was always part heard up with Bill. But
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this later when we get
Speaker 1: into it, because there are there are key differences to
Speaker 1: the relationship at this point between young Bill. I feel
Speaker 1: like the characters are very different than they but we
Speaker 1: can talk about it little nuggets of Eric being stupid
Speaker 1: and little nuggets little not just tiny little. Oh he's
Speaker 1: not as smart as we think. Um please. So the
Speaker 1: episode is about that Phoene's niece is coming for a
Speaker 1: visit and Eric gets Morgan to help in asking her out,
Speaker 1: but he's also getting Morgan to ask a lot of
Speaker 1: girls out. Uh. Corey and the kids Grandma come for
Speaker 1: the weekend and she makes a promise to Corey, but
Speaker 1: he is disappointed when she leaves early and he misses
Speaker 1: out on a fishing trip that Shawn ends up going
Speaker 1: on with Alan Matthews. So this was directed by David Trainer,
Speaker 1: as all the episodes in the first and second seasons
Speaker 1: were the writers Michael Jacobs, April Kelly and Ed Dector,
Speaker 1: who was one of the EPs at the time. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that Doctor and Strauss ever wrote episodes separately. Well,
Speaker 1: this my rundown just says at Dector, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that it wasn't temperature. It says Dector and
Speaker 1: Strouss and the and the opening crawl. Okay, I'll double
Speaker 1: check that they always wrote together. Um, as you said,
Speaker 1: this aired out of order, so that's why you weren't
Speaker 1: there yet. No, I had are so it aired. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's possible that they filmed this right before I had
Speaker 1: been on an episode, or they filmed it right after
Speaker 1: I had been on an episode. But I was in
Speaker 1: episode one oh four Corey's Alternative Friends, and Topeka was
Speaker 1: only supposed to be in that one episode. After I
Speaker 1: did that one episode, they knew they wanted to bring
Speaker 1: me back for more, but it hadn't I hadn't already
Speaker 1: been included in storylines. So there were still many episodes
Speaker 1: that they did that I wasn't in. Because many did
Speaker 1: you end up doing in the in the first season?
Speaker 1: Were you in like after at half the season? I
Speaker 1: think so. I think once I come back, I may
Speaker 1: be in everyone after that, But for I don't really know. Um,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I did close to thirteen. But
Speaker 1: we'll figure. We'll see after the season's over. I don't
Speaker 1: really know. And we're you still a guest at that
Speaker 1: point where you considered recurring, I was regular guest. No,
Speaker 1: I was not a series regular. I was recurring in
Speaker 1: the season one, and then I was a series regular.
Speaker 1: Well I was, I was considered a series regular in
Speaker 1: season two, but I still didn't get to do every episode.
Speaker 1: So I was a series regular who was guaranteed thirteen
Speaker 1: and then I think I ended up doing like nineteen
Speaker 1: out of twenty two or something. You did. You did
Speaker 1: like the poster shoot and everything for season two, though,
Speaker 1: didn't you, like, aren't you on all the posters? I
Speaker 1: don't think, and I don't even think she gets opening
Speaker 1: credits until season three to have to find out. But
Speaker 1: I remember being confusing, and I remember being upset on
Speaker 1: your behalf. It was honestly even working so hard, and
Speaker 1: she's not. Maybe we've talked about it for sure privately,
Speaker 1: but if you guys knew the pay disparity even after
Speaker 1: I became a series regular, and it was always um.
Speaker 1: The excuse that was used was that, well, we didn't
Speaker 1: know you were going to be on the show. We
Speaker 1: didn't know you. We weren't anticipating you, like wouldn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. But when you get the credit that someone
Speaker 1: else did know by season two, I was accounted for.
Speaker 1: I get that. In season one, I wasn't a part
Speaker 1: of the budget. You weren't anticipating having another series regular,
Speaker 1: but like by season two that excuse should go out
Speaker 1: the window. And then season three rolled around and it
Speaker 1: was still the same excuse, and there was we'll we'll
Speaker 1: get to it. I don't remember exactly where it was.
Speaker 1: I'll have to do some research with contacting Judy Savage,
Speaker 1: who was my agent at the time. I'll have to
Speaker 1: ask her and my dad, my fantastic agent, writer and
Speaker 1: I had the same agent for most of the show,
Speaker 1: and she was fantastic, still is fantastic, and her agency,
Speaker 1: the Savage Agency, is still a fantastic kids agent if
Speaker 1: you're looking to get your kid in any agent. Um,
Speaker 1: so we'll have to get We'll have to get into
Speaker 1: that because you were seriously, I mean, they're still the
Speaker 1: page disparagy there when then they are clearly building Corean
Speaker 1: to Panga as a thing. Yeah, oh yeah, I had to.
Speaker 1: I had to threaten to not show up to a table.
Speaker 1: You're lucky to be on a TV show. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is how I felt. And when grown ups like agents
Speaker 1: and you know, parents, who are you know? And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: why would your parents be willing to you know, they
Speaker 1: don't they're not comfortable in the industry. My dad was
Speaker 1: listening to My dad was not having it. My dad
Speaker 1: and Judy Savage were doing the negotiations with ABC and
Speaker 1: or did azing and and they said to us, you're
Speaker 1: not you have to not go. And I was sobbing.
Speaker 1: Of course I have to go, and you're gonna lose
Speaker 1: this job for me. And that's what I kept saying
Speaker 1: to Judy and my dad was because they would be like, listen,
Speaker 1: what you know, this is what you should be getting.
Speaker 1: This is where we're at. And the only way to
Speaker 1: get it is if they know that you're serious about
Speaker 1: not coming back unless you get treated fairly. And I
Speaker 1: was like, but I don't feel that way. Just do anything.
Speaker 1: Just do not lose this job for me. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel. If they end up firing me because I
Speaker 1: don't show up to a table read, I will never
Speaker 1: speak to my family's um and I did. I ended up.
Speaker 1: I ended up a sausage of child actor like, this
Speaker 1: is how the sausage gets made. I know. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm not in this episode. Let's talk about this episode.
Speaker 1: So this is our huge episode for Boy Meats World
Speaker 1: because we have two amazing guest stars through. McClanahan was
Speaker 1: so excited, right and she got the she got the
Speaker 1: guest star applause she did right when she came in.
Speaker 1: It was I wanted to ask you about that? Can
Speaker 1: I pause already? Yes? Um did? Did the audience at
Speaker 1: that point know she was there? Was that a surprise reveal?
Speaker 1: They save her? It's a surprise reveal. So they introduced
Speaker 1: the main cat always was whenever you had a big
Speaker 1: guest star like that, you saved them. So you introduced
Speaker 1: the man. A group of kids, didn't They didn't they
Speaker 1: make them clap? Do you really think a group of
Speaker 1: kids knew who Rue McClanahan was. No, but you have
Speaker 1: to remember she was. I mean, Golden Girls was not
Speaker 1: that long before our show. It seems like just in
Speaker 1: history now, But she was not a whole tounch of
Speaker 1: eleven year olds that were like, we gotta get home
Speaker 1: and see Golden Girls. Will they had applause lights I
Speaker 1: also like, that's what I'm saying, as they literally had.
Speaker 1: They told them to clap. It wasn't like, IMU McClanahan
Speaker 1: bake because she's a huge star for eleven year olds,
Speaker 1: But I I was eleven I loved her. I watched
Speaker 1: Golden Girls from five years old on like I that
Speaker 1: was and that show also really holds up just so,
Speaker 1: it's an amazing show, hilarious, so funny. Still scares people
Speaker 1: that the girl, the women on Golden Girls were in
Speaker 1: their fifties. I could. I looked up her age on
Speaker 1: this episode because I was trying to do the math,
Speaker 1: and I was like, she's in her fifties on this
Speaker 1: she's fifties the Golden Girls. My wife cried when she
Speaker 1: found out that the Golden Girls were in their fifties.
Speaker 1: It's not right. And the oldest one was the was
Speaker 1: younger than daughter Sophia. I was younger than Dorothy. But anyway, no,
Speaker 1: so they so rude, Can I can? I just very quickly,
Speaker 1: here's one thing that was amazing about this episode to me.
Speaker 1: I remember Rue McClanahan being in like every scene and
Speaker 1: she wasn't She was in like two scenes of the show.
Speaker 1: I remember her being like the crux of the thing.
Speaker 1: But it was really about how she wasn't there, right
Speaker 1: and that And did you have in memories of meeting her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yes, right, do you remember meeting her? I
Speaker 1: mean I mean I remember because it was just in
Speaker 1: the least. Yeah, it was. It was. It was very
Speaker 1: She was very sweet, I mean again from from what
Speaker 1: I remember, and she kind of came in and it
Speaker 1: was she did her stuff and she was very professional
Speaker 1: and like she didn't hang out with us or anything,
Speaker 1: but um, she was very nice, you know. She she
Speaker 1: came in and did her thing. But I was a
Speaker 1: huge Golden Girls fan, so I was floored. I year
Speaker 1: if they were trying to have her come back as
Speaker 1: a recurring character. It seemed like like that would have
Speaker 1: been the smart move if they could get her right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I saw the title, I thought, oh, no, grandma dies,
Speaker 1: and then I saw who the Grandma's Like, no, she doesn't.
Speaker 1: Episode seven, I don't know are we are we jumping
Speaker 1: into the living room scene and we already passed the no, no,
Speaker 1: we haven't. We haven't even heard it. I haven't even
Speaker 1: said that. Our second guest star is Carrie Russell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Carrie Russell as Jessica, Phoene's niece. And then now
Speaker 1: we are into the episode. We're in Phoenie's backyard core
Speaker 1: and shown are picking snails off of Phoenie's plants for
Speaker 1: when they go fishing. Alan says fish don't eat snails.
Speaker 1: Phoenie laugh saying he was mistaken, and I wrote down
Speaker 1: that this is maybe the first time I've seen a
Speaker 1: Phoenie smile. I had to rewind it because I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to get exactly what's happening here? Does every
Speaker 1: does it? You were already confused. I wasn't confused, but
Speaker 1: I thought if I was a kid, I don't think
Speaker 1: I would get this joke. And then so I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to understand the joke. Okay, he's saying you
Speaker 1: have to pick snails, and then he's just trying to
Speaker 1: get them to take the snails off his plants. But
Speaker 1: then he's convinced that. I mean, I got it. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not nine, but I did. Just rewinded to go
Speaker 1: let's just see how this plays out. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge laugh. It wasn't It wasn't it didn't kill but
Speaker 1: it was. But it's going to what we've talked about before,
Speaker 1: where all the others saved by the bells and all
Speaker 1: the shows at the time, the kids always pulled the
Speaker 1: fast one on the teacher. It's kind of interesting to
Speaker 1: see the teacher pulling a fast one on these once
Speaker 1: in a while. No, you're right, and it was cute.
Speaker 1: I thought. Sean and Corey's reaction was very cute and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, hey, wait, and you know this
Speaker 1: is the second time Phoene has pulled a fast one,
Speaker 1: because we it was at the pilot where Corey the
Speaker 1: painted shutters, Yeah, that's that's right on the fence where
Speaker 1: Corey is like, I'm I'm you're gonna pay me this
Speaker 1: some out and he adds it up wrong and Phoenie's like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, he's Phoenie's pulling a fast one,
Speaker 1: and all the kids left right here, and like I said,
Speaker 1: it's the first time you really see Phoenie smile and
Speaker 1: you realize that he has a life and interests outside
Speaker 1: of being a teacher, and it's it's actually very endearing
Speaker 1: to watch. Um and writer, I'd like to talk about
Speaker 1: your clothes again. Are this? Was this a closer all
Speaker 1: I got? Do I have any lines in this scene?
Speaker 1: I don't think you do. I don't think I do. Man,
Speaker 1: I know you say bye Dad, that's not in the scene. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't need line this scene. I literally like walk
Speaker 1: all the way across the room and like post up
Speaker 1: on the bench. Listen, no one knows the lines because,
Speaker 1: like Lauren is saying, you didn't need them. Natural charisma,
Speaker 1: you don't need. You don't need to say a word.
Speaker 1: We get it all. But I do want to know.
Speaker 1: Do you remember at all? This was a so you
Speaker 1: had on a bright blue long sleeve pattern short sleeve
Speaker 1: that comes down to mid forour arms. And then there
Speaker 1: is a white hooded thing that I can't see what
Speaker 1: that is under a denim vest, but I could believe
Speaker 1: the white hood maybe sewn into the vest. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it was a big you two shirts and then are
Speaker 1: pretty good looking outfit as far as the yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: it was smaller, it was more tailored to you. And
Speaker 1: they've managed to get the look of four shirts with
Speaker 1: only giving you three shirts. How did you not melt
Speaker 1: every night wearing thirty two lowers? Then? While I was
Speaker 1: panicked about changing clothes, Yeah, you remember that the sets
Speaker 1: are thirty six degrees on tape nights like it's it's
Speaker 1: literally forty degrees and then with the lights on, we're
Speaker 1: all still sweating. But anyway, Okay, so they realized that
Speaker 1: Feeny knows how to fish, and Eric is not going
Speaker 1: fishing because he has discovered girls. So then we are
Speaker 1: into the living room. Eric is meaning Morgan to help
Speaker 1: him meet girls. And here's the pair up that we
Speaker 1: often talk about. Well, where you are with Lily nix
Speaker 1: A Morgan and you're feeding her treats like a pet
Speaker 1: Umi and your mom loved it. Of course, of course
Speaker 1: all on board. Oh you're gonna take your little sister
Speaker 1: to the mall at sixteen to bribe her to get
Speaker 1: help you get women? Girls? Good for you, was the
Speaker 1: was the answer we got. It's like, okay, okay, here's
Speaker 1: my question, and maybe we need to watch it back.
Speaker 1: But I think you are lip reading Lily a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I can see that no no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, because it's her lines, that's her. I'm
Speaker 1: getting her too, So that's like layers act. I don't
Speaker 1: know all I wrote down like, well's lip reading, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that was That was a Michael Jacobs note.
Speaker 1: That was Michael Jacob's note. He said, when she says
Speaker 1: the line, mouth along with her, like you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's getting the line. Part of the bat's
Speaker 1: to make it very obvious that you're the one who
Speaker 1: told her what to say. Yeah, so that was and
Speaker 1: that's not to say at some point in the future,
Speaker 1: I won't read somebody else totally by my own fault,
Speaker 1: but in that that's one sense. It was a Michael
Speaker 1: Jacob's note. Did you ever call her weasel? Like? After season?
Speaker 1: No weasel? That was like, I'm energy boy, like weasel.
Speaker 1: They tried to make that work for three episodes and
Speaker 1: they're like, I'm not gonna do that anymore. And that
Speaker 1: was it. I think it's really cute you did it
Speaker 1: in a previous episode where you called her weasel and
Speaker 1: then you nickname. The nickname was wease. I just thought
Speaker 1: it was really cute. I wish I wish it would
Speaker 1: have stuck around. Yeah, And they tried to make Eric
Speaker 1: and Morgan work like that was gonna be a thing,
Speaker 1: and then that and it just didn't. It was very cute,
Speaker 1: and the girl was so great, she's so sweet, she
Speaker 1: was adorable, she's very funny. Um and then we hear
Speaker 1: a Winnebago playing and Grandma comes through the front door.
Speaker 1: And this is the most show Busney nineties commentaries I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. It was just it was a reminder of
Speaker 1: like how much we were still like in the live
Speaker 1: show business, you know what I mean, Like it felt
Speaker 1: very old timing in a way that you just don't
Speaker 1: have that anymore, Like when you were in The Perfect
Speaker 1: Window that was like the best. I mean, I still
Speaker 1: think that was the best TV. But it's like that
Speaker 1: was the most fun you could have, Like someone making
Speaker 1: an entrance like that, everyone going crazy, like waiting for
Speaker 1: it to die down, like that's just so fun for
Speaker 1: a while, for your lame, for your laughs. You know
Speaker 1: what else? I noticed first here and then it came
Speaker 1: back around when in the scene with Corey and Alan
Speaker 1: in the kitchen when he's making the sandwich, the way
Speaker 1: we used props in us in scenes to actually really
Speaker 1: make it feel natural and like what somebody does when
Speaker 1: they come in and they've got gifts and they've got
Speaker 1: a backpack and they're pulling things out and they're showing
Speaker 1: things and like still doing all of that while outward
Speaker 1: facing toward the camera and remembering all of her lines.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, it was just good acting business.
Speaker 1: Great it did. It felt like a big performance and
Speaker 1: she I mean, she is a superstar. It just feels
Speaker 1: you felt like a superstar just walked onto the same
Speaker 1: It was really fun. I mean, what an entrance. UM.
Speaker 1: So they're all excited to see Grandma. She's got gifts
Speaker 1: for everybody. She says she's staying for the weekend. Everybody's
Speaker 1: got to cancel their plans. Grandma's gonna take Morgan shopping.
Speaker 1: She's gonna take Eric to go meet girls at the
Speaker 1: auto show, and she's everybody's special thing. She goes and
Speaker 1: with Corey it's baseball. It's perfect exactly the cal Ripkin card,
Speaker 1: his rookie card and they're gonna go get it signed.
Speaker 1: And Corey jumps on Grandma and which was pretty aggressive.
Speaker 1: I think the jumping. I was looking at ru going
Speaker 1: and she okay, She's like falling back on Morgan's like
Speaker 1: they're rushing. It's like, oh man, they're like about to
Speaker 1: kill this little girl. Everyone's fine. Do you guys remember though?
Speaker 1: That kind of like the rehearsal stuff with that at
Speaker 1: Michael was very big on um being very real with
Speaker 1: your physical moves. I remember it on Girl Meets World too,
Speaker 1: where he'd be like, no, I really need the girls
Speaker 1: to fly through the bedroom window. And it was like,
Speaker 1: you mean you want them to appear as though they
Speaker 1: fly through the bedroom window. They can't actually fly through
Speaker 1: bedroom window. But he if if it meant somebody was
Speaker 1: going to fall on someone and jump on someone, He's like,
Speaker 1: what do we have to do? Do Do we have to
Speaker 1: put pillows? Like how do we make it happen? You
Speaker 1: just need to make it happen. I want that to
Speaker 1: I want that to happen. I want Ben to jump
Speaker 1: on her and I want her to fall back on Lily,
Speaker 1: like I can remember those rehearsals. You know, he really
Speaker 1: you said real, but it's actually the opposite. I think
Speaker 1: he wants to Actually he wants it to be physical
Speaker 1: comedy that's real. But the way he envisions it, in
Speaker 1: the way he writes it is often extremely cartooning. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what I mean he want so on the page
Speaker 1: it would be this cartoony thing. He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we pick him up and we throw him through the door.
Speaker 1: And you're like, that's not the way reality works, and
Speaker 1: you'd have to explain. But then there are some actors
Speaker 1: like Mr Wilford l who could you can just pull
Speaker 1: pull magic tricks, you know, physically can do stuff that
Speaker 1: seem impossible. Like we'll get to the bag throwing later.
Speaker 1: You know, like that is a very cartoony script beat
Speaker 1: that Will pulls off miraculous and it's hysterical. You know,
Speaker 1: he makes it his own. Those are the kinds of
Speaker 1: things like that's why Michael loved writing for somebody like
Speaker 1: Will is it. Will would just throw his body holly
Speaker 1: into these things, you know. Um, and then there are
Speaker 1: a lot of times when actors just have a hard
Speaker 1: time doing that. You know it is it's old schools, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, live acting style to be you have to
Speaker 1: really embody it, you have to physically do these kinds
Speaker 1: of crazy things. But yeah, Michael had had a cartoony
Speaker 1: vision of how human reality worked. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: it also like it's like really clear when you're describing
Speaker 1: that that that's part of what made the show so
Speaker 1: like long lasting, because it's like there's such an extreme
Speaker 1: commitment all the time, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: shows that get canceled really fast you're lacking that, Like
Speaker 1: there's like a clear tone and like decisions being made
Speaker 1: about like that kind of stuff. And like what you
Speaker 1: were saying about all the props, Daniel, like even like
Speaker 1: making the muffins and stuff like it felt so real,
Speaker 1: like it's just like I was walking, Mom is really
Speaker 1: doing that, Like I don't know, there's some shows didn't
Speaker 1: have that for sure. Yeah, there was a writer that
Speaker 1: was the perfect way of saying it. It was written
Speaker 1: very on the page. It was written very cartoon like,
Speaker 1: but what he wanted was very real, physical comedy. He
Speaker 1: actually wanted a character to touch the other character. I
Speaker 1: want Rue McClanahan to have her shoulders be shaken and
Speaker 1: Lily being crushed under her grandma, Like I can I
Speaker 1: can imagine. I can remember him even though I was
Speaker 1: not there, I can envision it right now that I
Speaker 1: can during a run through, he was probably like, no,
Speaker 1: you actually need to jump on her shoulders and Lily
Speaker 1: you get buried under your Like that was a vision
Speaker 1: that would be very important to him. Um, And I
Speaker 1: do think that part of the reason for that is
Speaker 1: that it helps sell the relationship between the family. You
Speaker 1: buy that they're a real family that does this and
Speaker 1: has this dynamic all the time. So it does go
Speaker 1: a long way. Not to get too psychological, but Michael
Speaker 1: Jacobs was a huge comic book fan, like like a
Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of comic books, and as a comic book nerd,
Speaker 1: you're reading something that's cartoony, but you want it to
Speaker 1: be real. You want Superman and be real, you want
Speaker 1: Batman and be real. You want to see these bold,
Speaker 1: big egg cartoon moves on the page and then you're
Speaker 1: imagining the yeah, and you want them to be real.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what you do. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: continue into the living room. Grandma and Eric walk in
Speaker 1: and uh, Eric shows Corey his arms signed by the
Speaker 1: Lamborghini girl. I knew that. So I'm sitting there watching
Speaker 1: the episode with my wife. I swear to you, I
Speaker 1: have not seen it any amount of this episode since
Speaker 1: it first aired, and about thirty seconds before I turned
Speaker 1: to my wife and I go, Grazzilla Turtziana. The second
Speaker 1: you said that name, I was like, oh, I remember that.
Speaker 1: We used to say that. I guess he said it
Speaker 1: for years afterwards, but I totally totally remembered the name too.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Remember. The other thing my wife
Speaker 1: said was halfway through the first scene, she went, why
Speaker 1: is your head nodding so much? And I was I
Speaker 1: was just I'd sit in the background and I would agree.
Speaker 1: I just agree with everybody said George cleaned it the
Speaker 1: whole time. When she was nodding, My head had got
Speaker 1: a haircut too. I don't think we I don't think
Speaker 1: it's talked about enough. You had a good hair. Sit
Speaker 1: next to Rider if you're if you're the ugly show pony.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the whole, the whole cast great hair,
Speaker 1: great hair, I mean, and then carry I know I
Speaker 1: wrote that down to that. You know they cast Carrie
Speaker 1: Russell partially because of that hair. Michael has a hair
Speaker 1: obsession for all. So he's got his arms signed by
Speaker 1: Graziela Trziana, the Lamborghini Girl. They compare the Lamborghini Girl
Speaker 1: to cal Ripken. Corey is like, you cannot compare cal
Speaker 1: Ripkin's way better. Grandma said she's tired, her dogs are barking.
Speaker 1: She takes her shoes off, and Corey asks, but you're
Speaker 1: not too tired to take me tomorrow to meet cal Ripkin.
Speaker 1: And she says, absolutely not. I'm so excited to spend
Speaker 1: the day with you tomorrow. Um and then uh in
Speaker 1: the kitchen, Eric, here's Poenie knocking on the back door,
Speaker 1: so he lets him in. Phoenie asks how to entertain
Speaker 1: a girl Eric's age, and Eric asks if Poenie is
Speaker 1: dating a teenage girl? And then Eric raises his eyebrows
Speaker 1: like it's very cool. It's it's Mr Phoenix and it's
Speaker 1: just a moment that doesn't land. Well, what does he
Speaker 1: not since the Eisenhower? Hey year old man, are you
Speaker 1: dating a teenage girl and you're a teacher? Like that
Speaker 1: would be the grossest thing you could tell. Even in
Speaker 1: the way the audience laughs that, it kind of falters
Speaker 1: a little bit. I could I could hear a couple
Speaker 1: of people being like, that would not be good about
Speaker 1: Mr Phoene dating I think about Mr dating teenager answer
Speaker 1: it was perfect not since the eisenhowerd And then you
Speaker 1: get it that he's like disgusting, you know, he thinks
Speaker 1: it's gross, and we're all saved and we can go
Speaker 1: back to loving Mr Feenie. So this is the scene
Speaker 1: that I remember during run through, like realizing how much
Speaker 1: of me Will was. And I remember the excitement in
Speaker 1: the room for the first run through because you know,
Speaker 1: I obviously hadn't been there for the rehearsals for this,
Speaker 1: but even just I remember little beats like the way
Speaker 1: Will was eating the pizza because it was during the
Speaker 1: run through you you got the pizza and you you know, Danielle,
Speaker 1: you were talking earlier about room walking in with all
Speaker 1: the business. Like business is so essential for acting. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like what you do with your hands, and it's
Speaker 1: always a way to sort of get out of your
Speaker 1: head and to make yourself busy without being too focused
Speaker 1: on the conflict within the scene with another actor. So
Speaker 1: business is like an essential writing, acting directing technique. And
Speaker 1: Will you found this business with the pizza. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I can't remember it was written
Speaker 1: or not, but watching it when we were in rehearsals
Speaker 1: and you actually held a piece of pizza for the rehearsal,
Speaker 1: and then like even just you stumbling back into the
Speaker 1: chair on your way, it was like you just clearly
Speaker 1: found your comedic voice. This week, I feel like as
Speaker 1: at and it was such a fun like oh my god.
Speaker 1: And of course come against Bill as the straight man,
Speaker 1: you know, like your character and and and you know
Speaker 1: it just portends what's what's to come, which is so
Speaker 1: much more of this right like the rest of the scene,
Speaker 1: the rest of the show. This scene is going to
Speaker 1: play out in some form or another many many times,
Speaker 1: and this one is really good. Yeah, this scene was
Speaker 1: was nuts for me because I was just so happy
Speaker 1: to be working with Bill. I finally felt a joke
Speaker 1: like when you it's you know when you when you
Speaker 1: hit a joke, when you actually hit a joke, you
Speaker 1: can feel it. It's like you're ringing ringing a tuning fork.
Speaker 1: And I never felt that before, and I was like,
Speaker 1: exciting it is. It's huge. It's like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: got it. And the first one of the first big
Speaker 1: laughs I ever got was a mistake, and it was
Speaker 1: a mistake during that scene and it was our first
Speaker 1: run through ever and the line is, I would love
Speaker 1: to meet your niece, Mr Feenie, And I said, I
Speaker 1: would love to meet your feast, Mr Ninie, and the
Speaker 1: writers and producers went like laughed hysterically, and it was
Speaker 1: written on the chalkboard in the writer's room, I want
Speaker 1: to meet your feast, Mr Ninie for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. And yeah, it was just I remember them
Speaker 1: and hearing even did it as a mistake, Hearing that
Speaker 1: natural laughter blast you from one side because they're standing there,
Speaker 1: you know, next to you. Was was it's a drug,
Speaker 1: it's a manag it's also but it's also the fact
Speaker 1: that they laughed and welcomed your mistake. Was you know,
Speaker 1: that's part of the safety net that you need to
Speaker 1: in order to find comedy and to be funny. And
Speaker 1: I think, like, especially as kids, you're always terrified that
Speaker 1: you're gonna do something wrong, and like you think that
Speaker 1: messing up your lines, are saying the words out of
Speaker 1: order is going to ruin it, and then you've you know,
Speaker 1: not done your job. And the fact that they laughed
Speaker 1: and made it part of it. Like, no, no, this
Speaker 1: scene totally worked. It doesn't matter that you said feast
Speaker 1: neany or whatever that Like, I'm sure it was a
Speaker 1: huge step into comfort, you know, and recognizing that, like
Speaker 1: you can stumble, you can screw things up, and like
Speaker 1: that's not the point. The point is to just be
Speaker 1: funny and to be confident and to you know, let
Speaker 1: yourself allow yourself the freedom to make mistakes. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was great. This is this is by far, I would
Speaker 1: argue this is my as an actor, my most important
Speaker 1: episode of the entire show. Like it this helped me
Speaker 1: kind of find my voice and feel more comfortable and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was this was great for me. There really was
Speaker 1: like a light switch had just been flipped and you
Speaker 1: were lit up from within and suddenly you were in
Speaker 1: your skin and it was I mean, it really is
Speaker 1: because I was saying all along, you've been hard on
Speaker 1: yourself in the other episodes, but seeing you in this
Speaker 1: episode compared to what we had seen in the previous episode,
Speaker 1: it is very apparent that you were uncomfortable before and
Speaker 1: that now you are very comfortable. So welcome will Fredell
Speaker 1: to the show. Joined the show is Eric Matthews in
Speaker 1: episode seven. So Phoeney just really wants to know how
Speaker 1: you keep a teenage girl entertained, and uh, he says, basically,
Speaker 1: it's some combination of dinner in a movie, dinner in
Speaker 1: a movie, and um. But Eric says, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I definitely cannot entertain your niece for you I have
Speaker 1: strepped throat and yeah, really it was eating the pizza. Um.
Speaker 1: And so Corey comes down into the kitchen. Um. Actually,
Speaker 1: so that you guys end that scene that you're not
Speaker 1: going to entertain his niece and he basically leaves and
Speaker 1: then right, yeah, that was and that was kind of
Speaker 1: a like, h it was like it was a funny joke,
Speaker 1: but they went out kind of hard on it, like
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, yeah, don't do that, girl
Speaker 1: rude phoene um. So then the next scene is still
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, Corey walks down and he asks where
Speaker 1: grandma is, and Amy is um baking blueberry muffins and
Speaker 1: Corey she asks if Corey wants to help. Then Eric
Speaker 1: comes down and asks how long he can go without
Speaker 1: taking a shower so that he can keep his autographed
Speaker 1: arm intact. And then Eric spots Carrie Russell as Jessica
Speaker 1: in the backyard. Yeah, and the way you say it,
Speaker 1: they're like, I've got other interests other than girl girl girl.
Speaker 1: There she is. It was really funny. Can I say
Speaker 1: one thing about um? The mom I thought was really sweet,
Speaker 1: Like and I think maybe this is my adult version
Speaker 1: of my cell watching the show now, But there was
Speaker 1: like he says like some about the grandma and then
Speaker 1: she's like, why don't we make muffins. I'm like she
Speaker 1: knows something and it's as a kid, you don't catch
Speaker 1: that at all, but it's there's something sweet about her,
Speaker 1: just like pivoting his interests into something. It's really great
Speaker 1: and Betsy played that so great because it was like
Speaker 1: you can tell it's but kept the scene moving, but
Speaker 1: you could just enough to be like, oh no, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the parents, I mean you've talked about it a
Speaker 1: bit when you had Um Rusty on, but it was
Speaker 1: they're both so genuine and it feels so comforting to
Speaker 1: watch them. I think that's also a big part of
Speaker 1: like this ensemble. That's so like they have such a
Speaker 1: nice grounding weight that Um carries it that you don't
Speaker 1: really realize when you're watching it as a kid, but
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the parents are such an integral part
Speaker 1: of the show because it's like they're they're keeping this
Speaker 1: sort of like all these kids who are often always
Speaker 1: funny things like they're kind of just like weighing it down,
Speaker 1: giving it like real real life. They're so relaxed, they
Speaker 1: don't they don't get rattled. That's neither one of them
Speaker 1: as characters or as actors, ever feel out of control,
Speaker 1: and that's really important. I think, you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about it later, but you know, when when Rusty and
Speaker 1: Ben have they're seen, I was surprised by how like
Speaker 1: it actually minimizes all this, you know, like because Rusty
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, that's a small man. That's like a
Speaker 1: wonderful Like, oh, it's all this problem then all this
Speaker 1: feeling of like lack of love is I We'll get
Speaker 1: to it. But no, that yeah, I think that that's
Speaker 1: to your point, To your point, the parents are intentionally
Speaker 1: in control. You know, there's just not question rattled. Can
Speaker 1: I ask you a question because you you brought it
Speaker 1: up a little bit and it's something that we've touched
Speaker 1: on a little bit. You said you watched this as
Speaker 1: a kid, and now you're watching as an adult. Is
Speaker 1: it like watching a whole different show because you're seeing
Speaker 1: it through the eyes and of an adult now. I
Speaker 1: do think there's a bit of that. I mean now
Speaker 1: I also have the experience of doing multicam shows myself now,
Speaker 1: so that adds like a layer of like understanding that
Speaker 1: I didn't have. But I think just the storylines I
Speaker 1: seeing them different. I see it differently as an adult,
Speaker 1: Like that thing. I mean just noticing like, oh, she
Speaker 1: has a secret that she's not telling him. It's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's trying to take care of him, She's being a
Speaker 1: good mom. It's like definitely wasn't caring about that. You
Speaker 1: know at the time, like what does core I want
Speaker 1: to do? You know, so not thinking of that way,
Speaker 1: but it's nice to see it that way. I think,
Speaker 1: like and seeing Phoenie like and thinking about these actors
Speaker 1: and listening to you guys talk about it, I think
Speaker 1: is is opening up this other just world of thought
Speaker 1: with it. Just how you know, these adult actors were
Speaker 1: coming into the show having interesting careers and then going
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do this show that's focused on a child,
Speaker 1: and like what does that mean for me? And like
Speaker 1: is this what I want to do? And and the
Speaker 1: ways that they come into it and like rise to
Speaker 1: that and like actually elevate the show so much that
Speaker 1: within the way they probably weren't expecting to bring, you know,
Speaker 1: as like taking that job or like, um, what they're
Speaker 1: signing up for, you know, but it's it's like it
Speaker 1: it made the show so much more in a way
Speaker 1: that you don't fully recognize when you're just watching at
Speaker 1: service level. Um. But yeah, I mean it's it's definitely
Speaker 1: different watching as an adult for sure. UM. Side note,
Speaker 1: my friend, I was just thinking. My friend in sixth
Speaker 1: grade went to a taping and I was so jealous.
Speaker 1: She went to l a and with her dad and
Speaker 1: he took her to see boy Meats World and she
Speaker 1: had the script. Um. I don't know how she got
Speaker 1: the script, but she brought it back and I was
Speaker 1: and they would do contest during our tape night to
Speaker 1: give away signed scripts. Was there really? Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: remember we signed ten scripts every night. Every tape night,
Speaker 1: we would sign ten scripts and then or five or
Speaker 1: I think it was ten, and then they would give
Speaker 1: them out by kids got up and sang or people
Speaker 1: got up and did anything. They would have contest. I
Speaker 1: remember the contest, but it was for a script. I do.
Speaker 1: Those were the prizes were signed scripts. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there who probably have signed you know,
Speaker 1: full cast signed and I think even the guest stars
Speaker 1: would sign them um for that week. So I remember
Speaker 1: every tape night before we went backstage, we'd have to
Speaker 1: sign ten scrips. Yeah. Last week at Comic Con, I
Speaker 1: signed a number of scripts that I could tell were original.
Speaker 1: They had they had been ripped off, but they had
Speaker 1: the stickers in the up a right hand corner where
Speaker 1: that we're they were actual. Like I signed a number
Speaker 1: of them where it's like, oh, so somebody's kind of
Speaker 1: flood in the market with these, and they had ripped
Speaker 1: off whoever it was who had got it to their identity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was like, that is these are real And
Speaker 1: I said to the guys like I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is real. It's like, no, this, this is real. I
Speaker 1: can tell this is real. So yeah, those are starting
Speaker 1: to come out. Now, that's interesting. Here's a really, really
Speaker 1: really inside baseball question. But I honestly can't remember. Did
Speaker 1: we use letters or numbers for our scenes? This is
Speaker 1: a big divide in the sitcom world sometimes so seen A. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's right, it was the same one girl. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you sure we didn't remember? Okay, cool, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because it becomes so important,
Speaker 1: like what scene are we in? And it sitcoms they
Speaker 1: either do one one, one two, one three or one
Speaker 1: A one B one scene and retrained me because as
Speaker 1: I'm watching the episode, I'll be writing notes and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, it's the cold open, it's act one
Speaker 1: cen A. I'll still write that out as I'm doing it. Okay,
Speaker 1: this conversation is going amazingly well, and we have so
Speaker 1: much more to get to with Lauren Lapkiss, So we
Speaker 1: are going to split this up into two episodes, so
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