Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. Always heeds the call, unless
Speaker 1: it's Mark calling for him to her real from the
Speaker 1: Chris Westling Podcast studio. It's Around the NFL, Dan Hansas
Speaker 1: twenty two and a half minute late start here, so
Speaker 1: watch out from Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and Yes back
Speaker 1: in studio for the first time in too long. The Woman,
Speaker 1: the Myth, the Legend, Tiny Box. It's great to be back.
Speaker 1: Nothing has changed. I'm not doing good today. I mean,
Speaker 1: how is that different than most days? It does feel
Speaker 1: a little different though, I physically feel like a train wreck,
Speaker 1: and it's it's the thing is that I was feeling
Speaker 1: about find about two hours ago, and it's just like
Speaker 1: to steady to climb downhill again. We had discussed earlier
Speaker 1: today that after today's taping we might do some clerical
Speaker 1: work behind the scenes. We've got playing some shows out
Speaker 1: do some other. I think we might get another cartoon
Speaker 1: feet running out towards the parking lot in the car
Speaker 1: appealing out scenario for our colleague Mark. Well for my
Speaker 1: well being. Wow, welcome back to the show. You know
Speaker 1: it's good to be home, home being the studio like
Speaker 1: me in real life. The idea of a nice like relaxing.
Speaker 1: Fun time is sitting on the couch, maybe a t
Speaker 1: do's with my wife watching something on TV. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I feel about sometimes we go to rams Camp. Great
Speaker 1: time at rams Camp, I thought. I like being home.
Speaker 1: That's where I like hanging out. I like hanging out
Speaker 1: with a couple of friends at home. That's my thing.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you guys at your house in a while.
Speaker 1: It's been a minute. Like and when I say your house,
Speaker 1: I mean the studio wrestling past. It's been too long.
Speaker 1: You've been gallivanting all over training Camp America and you're
Speaker 1: going to Minnesota tomorrow, so it's not over yet. How's
Speaker 1: it been going, I've been, you've been. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about it in today's show. You've hit uh several
Speaker 1: stops already, so we'll get some of your camp takeaways.
Speaker 1: But how you doing this travel life? Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's hot, real hot everywhere. A lot of bugs love sweating,
Speaker 1: and so it's been super glamorous. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that that's good. That's good. By the way, um Me
Speaker 1: and Connie announcement. I have an announcement we haven't announced
Speaker 1: as teased last week. Um Hard knocks is back this
Speaker 1: week covering the Detroit Lines, and for the past ten
Speaker 1: years on NFL dot Com, I have handled the weekly
Speaker 1: recaps of Hard Knocks. I have passed the reins on
Speaker 1: that particular project, but I am not out of the
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks game because me and the Tiny Box Connie
Speaker 1: Fox will be launching a Hard Knocks podcast. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. How you like that. It's been a
Speaker 1: decade in the making. We have put so much planning
Speaker 1: into this. We've really been talking about it for a
Speaker 1: very long time. It's kind of true. Five years ago,
Speaker 1: I think six years ago, we tried to get some
Speaker 1: shadowy League figures to let us do the do it
Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe it was a cloud deficiency
Speaker 1: at the time. This time we pitched it, people were
Speaker 1: into it, and uh, you don't have to look hard
Speaker 1: for it. Listeners if you're interested, because it's gonna drop
Speaker 1: right into the A t N feed tomorrow night, every
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, the Hard Knocks recap for the next five weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm excited and now we can I can listen on
Speaker 1: the way into work the next day and not even
Speaker 1: watch Hard Knocks. No, of course I'm gonna watch har Knocks.
Speaker 1: I love Hard Knocks, but if you don't have time
Speaker 1: to watch the test, this year will be can they
Speaker 1: keep the audience me uh through the final episode? Because
Speaker 1: they do feel like the last couple of seasons my
Speaker 1: interest started fading a little bit late in the season.
Speaker 1: It's a challenge. Yeah, Dan Campbell, that's a personality enough
Speaker 1: to keep a whole season going. That's the last episode
Speaker 1: traditionally to me is the most compelling because it's with
Speaker 1: the whether you know, speaking of Dan Campbell, this would
Speaker 1: be kind of my overall thought heading into this season
Speaker 1: or Hard Knocks, that you have to go back to
Speaker 1: maybe Rex back in two thousand ten to see such
Speaker 1: a clear obvious star of the show at head coach
Speaker 1: um and kind of you sent this to me last night.
Speaker 1: This is this is again Dan Campbell sounding like completely
Speaker 1: like a professional wrestler addressing the crowd at Ford Field
Speaker 1: during their scrimmage this week. And this is the guy
Speaker 1: that has the chance to be an iconic Hard Knocks star.
Speaker 1: Let's listening. I'll tell you what you would give your
Speaker 1: code in winter? You would give your coach to somebody
Speaker 1: in winter that needed it. Man, That's what this community
Speaker 1: is about. However, however, however, nobody will take advantage of
Speaker 1: our hospitality, my body. So that's who we're about. That's
Speaker 1: what we're about. This team is working the rear off
Speaker 1: to give you something to be proud of. All right.
Speaker 1: They're grinding it out right now, and I know this.
Speaker 1: We are freaking starving. We are starving. So the hyaenas
Speaker 1: better get out of the way, all right, ma'am. I
Speaker 1: find them very enjoyable. Someone get him a cliff bar
Speaker 1: or something like that was still people. Yeah, So that
Speaker 1: that shows that Dan Campbell is doing something right. I
Speaker 1: don't think Matt Patricia was getting even the brakes and
Speaker 1: his cadence. That is how the Rock would address an
Speaker 1: audience from the Squared Circle in two thousand one. There's
Speaker 1: definitely that vibe in that charisma with Campbell, like Rock
Speaker 1: could deliver a speech that was probably half written for him.
Speaker 1: Some of that delivery went on went a little south.
Speaker 1: I do have a question, Connie, is a big your
Speaker 1: big preparation person. You're gonna be doing this right as
Speaker 1: the show raps, You're gonna jump on and do How
Speaker 1: is the show structured? Is it just going to be
Speaker 1: like a diving in here getting the weeds. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I don't know, um wondering have been
Speaker 1: any discussion about structure. Yeah, you know we're going to
Speaker 1: get a screener or working with the people that the
Speaker 1: films teams in the film's team is producing obviously Hard Knocks,
Speaker 1: and we've been communicating with them, so we'll have our
Speaker 1: we'll be able to watch it before the episode airs,
Speaker 1: record our podcast, schedule it so it comes out right
Speaker 1: as Hard Knocks. He's I'm as excited for the Lions
Speaker 1: as I have been for Hard Knocks in a while.
Speaker 1: Although I think you ignored one coach who kind of
Speaker 1: commanded the center I'm not gonna step on your jokes
Speaker 1: screen here and really was the start, and that was
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin. I was, though you're gonna say, Mike Smith,
Speaker 1: I never know how to say it right. A lot
Speaker 1: to get into Greggy has a banger? What is it?
Speaker 1: Fifty two? What did you come down with fifty two?
Speaker 1: Takeaways takeaways from I don't know, things we've learned this
Speaker 1: past weekend. A lot of teams had their scrimmages at
Speaker 1: the stadiums and all that stuff, so so takeaways there.
Speaker 1: Connie also going to share her I'm gonna call it
Speaker 1: camp check ins with within that Realm will also bring
Speaker 1: back her old quotable segment with Grave Digger that at
Speaker 1: the end. But before that, let's get caught up with
Speaker 1: some news. Did you well, hopefully nobody cries around here
Speaker 1: because of these sunglasses and you're the best. Thank you,
Speaker 1: my friend. It was more of a visual thing I
Speaker 1: think doesn't translate as well when it's just your sunglasses.
Speaker 1: Had a macho man. He was trying to take a
Speaker 1: shot at my sunglasses, which I love those sunglasses, so
Speaker 1: I was happy that he was drawing attention to couldn't
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of that, And thank you to Mark.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on this weekend, but
Speaker 1: so much, so many dispatches about NFL network from you,
Speaker 1: whether it was on social media or private text. One
Speaker 1: of those one of those weird weekends when Mark was like,
Speaker 1: wagh in on our network and he's like, man, this
Speaker 1: Sam Mills football, I have really jumping off. Well alright,
Speaker 1: So I that's indicator that I did not do much
Speaker 1: this weekend. I watched a lot of I sat, I
Speaker 1: did what you did, sitting on the couch with your wife,
Speaker 1: but with alone watching network television with your wife. That's
Speaker 1: been used in the past. You know, that's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite Do you have any critiques from what you
Speaker 1: saw this past weekend. I don't have critiques. I thought,
Speaker 1: like number one, like, I do think the training camp
Speaker 1: coverage has gotten better than where we were four or
Speaker 1: five years ago. Really, that's a great new I do
Speaker 1: put it on a billboard. Watching an incredible amount of
Speaker 1: NFL network this month. Um you Sometimes in the past
Speaker 1: you've been critical of the I would say forced jocularity.
Speaker 1: So maybe there's hasn't been as much as that. It's
Speaker 1: been toned down, which I which I appreciate because if
Speaker 1: it were at the previous level, I would turn the
Speaker 1: television like if you've got Connie involved, like, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. You can you can handle that. It's sometimes
Speaker 1: people outside of their you know, wheelhouse being trying to
Speaker 1: be funny. My kids know Connie. They're like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: the lady with the dogs, So they know who you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've seen you more more than a couple
Speaker 1: of times. And seriously, Mark, stay away from my wife.
Speaker 1: What I'm friends with your with your wife? How close
Speaker 1: are you guys, we're friends. There's too many comments to
Speaker 1: read into at this point. Graver is really you gotta
Speaker 1: keep away from Yeah? Gravers like, hey, just a heads up, guys,
Speaker 1: it's my girlfriend's birthday. I'm like really, And then oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your name again? How did you say it? Justin
Speaker 1: you're asking me to say it? Her name is Jessica
Speaker 1: Hunt's not how you said it, though you said it
Speaker 1: like this, Jessica, there was a real effect to it.
Speaker 1: And you're and you're going on a trip with her.
Speaker 1: I believe it's that correct. We are this upcoming weekend.
Speaker 1: We're going on a little trip, mini vacation before the season.
Speaker 1: Jessica slightly romantic. Let's get to the news. The Browns
Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt. Hey, listen, I guess it's progress. We're
Speaker 1: not going to talk about the other guy with the Browns,
Speaker 1: but still this isn't a great story. Um for the
Speaker 1: Browns who have a running back and Cream Hunt, who's
Speaker 1: behind Nick Chubb on the depth chart but obviously a
Speaker 1: very important player. Um. He is looking for a trade,
Speaker 1: he's looking to get out of town. He wants a
Speaker 1: fresh start. According to reports, Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski
Speaker 1: um not happy about Hunt staging a hold in during
Speaker 1: the first week of training camp. And uh, that's because Hunt,
Speaker 1: I guess he is looking to move on Mark He's
Speaker 1: got one more year on his deal. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: seemed like the Browns have a lot of reason to
Speaker 1: move them at this time. They're not trading him. I
Speaker 1: mean they he's back at practice. They basically shut the
Speaker 1: whole thing down and find him and he's working again.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's absurd, like, first of all, how
Speaker 1: much money are you supposed to dedicate to your running
Speaker 1: back room. They they have a great backup in Deernest Johnson,
Speaker 1: who who in two games last year showed up and
Speaker 1: showed well, and they've given Nick Chobb a bunch of
Speaker 1: money and so Kareem Hunt is out of luck on
Speaker 1: this one. He also, you know, sorry, but he missed
Speaker 1: nine games last year. He wasn't that productive for them,
Speaker 1: and it's like he's not an indispensable player. They will
Speaker 1: move on and find a younger running back if they
Speaker 1: need to know. This was the most unsuccessful holding in
Speaker 1: hold in history. He started it because it's really only
Speaker 1: a couple of years old. The holding and Uh. He
Speaker 1: started it on Friday. Uh. He was back to practice
Speaker 1: on Monday because they immediately started finding him. They said,
Speaker 1: we're not going to trade you, we're not going to
Speaker 1: give you a raise either. He brought he went into
Speaker 1: the g MS office. And after this, literally two days
Speaker 1: after the Deshaun Watts and appeal uh was uh filed
Speaker 1: by the league. It's like hello, like the Brown City,
Speaker 1: just hey, we've got something that's like a little more important. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, we're the ones that saved your career
Speaker 1: when you missed eight games because of domestic violence because
Speaker 1: you were on video kicking and pushing a woman. And
Speaker 1: then on top of that, this is the thing where
Speaker 1: it's where I think it got crazy. And someone was like,
Speaker 1: just go back to work. He's eighth in running back
Speaker 1: pay this year. He's a backup running back making six
Speaker 1: point to five million dollars. If for some reason they
Speaker 1: were upset and they said like we're just gonna cut you,
Speaker 1: he would not make that money back. He's not getting
Speaker 1: more money as a guy who had seventy carries last year,
Speaker 1: coming off injuries and has a leak suspension, And like
Speaker 1: I had some people say it's like, well, you got
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta get over that. That's the old news. Like,
Speaker 1: he's at a bigger risk because if he does anything
Speaker 1: again of being suspended for the entire year, so of
Speaker 1: course that effect it's like his future pay. And I
Speaker 1: think the Browns probably told him all of this and
Speaker 1: he quickly just went this holden crumbled so fast it
Speaker 1: almost didn't even have enough time to develop into a
Speaker 1: real story. I like it, though it's buttoned up now
Speaker 1: by the time we even talked about it. That's true,
Speaker 1: but like it's also one of the most running back
Speaker 1: friendly offenses. When you consider the quarterback situation, they're going
Speaker 1: to have to lean on the running game so much
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have plenty of opportunities to prove himself
Speaker 1: that he can get paid. So as long as he
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt, I mean for next year. As long
Speaker 1: as he doesn't get hurt, then he's going to be
Speaker 1: in good shape. He's been hurt a lot too. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, uh and other news rap sheet reported that
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has the inside track to win the Panthers
Speaker 1: starting quarterback job. That a report service out there that
Speaker 1: the Panthers are maybe looking to move Sam Donald, the
Speaker 1: incumbent in a deal. Whether or not that's legit, we
Speaker 1: don't know. But it was a big enough story that
Speaker 1: the quarterback and the head coach UH were asked about it.
Speaker 1: Here's what Matt Rule said about the idea of potentially
Speaker 1: shopping Sam Donald with Baker Mayfield in the house That
Speaker 1: was obviously mentioned to me. I haven't had any those conversations. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we're in the middle of a quarterback battle.
Speaker 1: I assume along with quarterback battles, things like that are
Speaker 1: going to be said. But there's nothing that Nothing that's
Speaker 1: been said to me by Scott or anybody that we're
Speaker 1: in that that's Scott as in Scott Fitter or the GM.
Speaker 1: Donald acknowledged that he approached his GM and said, is
Speaker 1: this legit? So is there smoke fire here? I don't know, Greg,
Speaker 1: but Baker looks like he's in the driver's It's sort
Speaker 1: of a fascinating window into like our media culture, though,
Speaker 1: because it was from a radio reporter who does some
Speaker 1: national stuff but in denver Um that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: throws a lot of reports out there. But eventually it
Speaker 1: got back to Sam Darnal. I hadn't even heard about
Speaker 1: their It got to Sam Darna because someone was probably
Speaker 1: blowing up his Twitter account or socials, and then he
Speaker 1: ends up talking to the general manager and it becomes
Speaker 1: more of a story. I think Sam Darna probably knows
Speaker 1: where he is right now, and that's um being a
Speaker 1: backup this year. Ian Rappaport said at Panther's camp, he
Speaker 1: thinks it's it's Baker's job to lose because Baker's even
Speaker 1: though they're splitting reps evenly, so far, Baker's shown more
Speaker 1: high level plays. And and here's the way it was
Speaker 1: explained to me, said Ian, is that Mayfield has more ability.
Speaker 1: The wild plays, the splash plays have been more towards Mayfield,
Speaker 1: So he's pulling away in this. And what are you
Speaker 1: gonna get for Sam Donald in a trade if that
Speaker 1: was even possibly uh nonfiction bag of spoons. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what you're gonna get for sandor who needs Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it is something where they if they can just
Speaker 1: get rid of them for like a conditional seventh thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: some of the salary you want. Who's going to buy
Speaker 1: him though? At this point, because you also have Jimmy
Speaker 1: g floating around out there, so you have him, and
Speaker 1: then also Donald's gonna make eighteen point eight million the
Speaker 1: season on the fifth year option that for some reason
Speaker 1: they picked up, which was adiotic when it happened. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what his marketing is. So what they
Speaker 1: would do is sort of do the reverse Mayfield. They're
Speaker 1: like paying Mayfield only five million, and they the Browns
Speaker 1: are paying ten, and they would just say, look, we'll
Speaker 1: pay fifteen of Donald's eighteen million. Just take them. Because
Speaker 1: they do have a rookie quarterback. They're back Corald. They
Speaker 1: do have p J. Walker, who is is probably as
Speaker 1: valuable as Sam Donald for what it's worth is to
Speaker 1: a no as as the Panther starters, and at least
Speaker 1: could be a second or third guy. I wonder if
Speaker 1: the forty Niners are going to have to end up
Speaker 1: cutting Jimmy so then he's just going to be floating
Speaker 1: around out there. They don't have any cap they're gonna
Speaker 1: hold onto Jimmy g until after final cuts. I think
Speaker 1: they're just hoping for the landscape to go dark somewhere
Speaker 1: where they suddenly need a quarterback that's like a twenty
Speaker 1: five and a half million dollar capit. I think there'll
Speaker 1: be a similar thing as Donald where if they could
Speaker 1: find a mid to late round pick they I think
Speaker 1: the Hill he's more right, He's even more likely to
Speaker 1: be cut though the Jimmy G thing, I believe. UH.
Speaker 1: Landscape turning dark? How about this podcast because we're going
Speaker 1: into the Bearcave wide receiver issues for the Bears. First
Speaker 1: up Byron Pringle may Or may not be ready for
Speaker 1: a week one he has a quad injury. There's no
Speaker 1: timetable for a return. And then nikkil Harry, who is
Speaker 1: acquired in a trade with the Patriots UH this weekend,
Speaker 1: suffered a potentially serious an ankle injury. I think it's
Speaker 1: been ruled a high ankle sprain. So you know that
Speaker 1: is never good. So for a team that doesn't have
Speaker 1: a ton of depth really anywhere um on offense, this
Speaker 1: is not a good sign for Justin Fields in year two. No,
Speaker 1: And I feel so bad for nikkil Harry, whatever you
Speaker 1: think of him, It just it stinks for him because
Speaker 1: he kept talking about how he was looking forward to
Speaker 1: this being a fresh start and all of the good
Speaker 1: vibes there and it was a really nice reset for him.
Speaker 1: And this Bears wide receiver room just keeps taking it
Speaker 1: after hit there down three of their top four wide
Speaker 1: receivers their rookies day to day, but Byron Pringle, Um
Speaker 1: Mattie Berflus, I learned his nickname is Fluce, so now
Speaker 1: I just want to keep calling him Fluce. Fluce did
Speaker 1: say he thought that he'd be able to recover in
Speaker 1: time for that Week one game against San Francisco. UM,
Speaker 1: but who knows what the quad injury UM. But it's
Speaker 1: such a shame when you look at this young quarterback,
Speaker 1: justin Fields, who's trying to this year take some type
Speaker 1: of step because last year was a disaster with the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the scheme that I don't even think
Speaker 1: was really built for him at all. And now he's
Speaker 1: having all of his wide receivers go down. So you
Speaker 1: have Darnell Mooney and then who right, And that was
Speaker 1: the case even when they were healthy. I always this
Speaker 1: was one of my fifty one. Uh well, you know
Speaker 1: what I realized is one of them was how Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston was healthy. So we gotta pull that. Pull that
Speaker 1: out of there. You're not going to go with an
Speaker 1: even fifty, right. I like the odd number. I like
Speaker 1: the strange numbers. That just feels better. Like when I
Speaker 1: set an alarm in the morning and it's always like six,
Speaker 1: it just feels I can only do five or zero.
Speaker 1: I swear I can't do it. So one of the
Speaker 1: points was, you know, over the weekend, at one point,
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is dropping back to past and so of
Speaker 1: course it's the first team. He's taking all the first
Speaker 1: team reps and his three receiver set was Chris Finky,
Speaker 1: Nassimbie Webster, and Isaiah COULTI Okay, who are the real players?
Speaker 1: Because and this is it's one of those points that
Speaker 1: I don't expound on it beyond that, but you sort
Speaker 1: of feel bad because these are young men who are professionals,
Speaker 1: who've gotten to the highest level of the NFL. But essentially,
Speaker 1: I'm just by listing their name, I'm kind of making
Speaker 1: the point that this is a disaster. I feel to
Speaker 1: feel guilt about it. Are you in bed when your
Speaker 1: alarm goes off at six? Seven times? This mean my insight?
Speaker 1: Does it hurt the humans involved? Cult? And Chris Fink?
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm not familiar with those guys who was
Speaker 1: yelling new Simba Webster, Simber Webster, Chris Finkey and Isaiah Culty.
Speaker 1: They definitely sound like names of Mark made out. They
Speaker 1: also have Kevin Shaw, who made a couple really nice catch. Okay,
Speaker 1: they got Darnell Mooney and they're probably was taking the
Speaker 1: day off. Okay. Speaking of which injury round up, Yes,
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston tweaked his foot. Adam Schefter later reported that
Speaker 1: was a rolled ankle and practice keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1: He's of course coming back from the a c L
Speaker 1: tear um, but doesn't appear to be too serious. But again,
Speaker 1: Winston such an important part of what the Saints. You're
Speaker 1: trying to do? Uh, Speaking of important parts of what
Speaker 1: teams are trying to do. McKay Beckton, the former first
Speaker 1: round pick of the Jets, uh slated to be the
Speaker 1: starting right tackle. He had some type of lower leg
Speaker 1: injury in practice on Monday. He's headed for an MRI.
Speaker 1: I Jets fans holding their breath on that one. The
Speaker 1: guy doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy. And
Speaker 1: Ravens first round pick center Tyler Linderbaum that dreaded Harlett.
Speaker 1: That's scorpion woman Liz Frank on the scene. Hopefully not
Speaker 1: one of the type of Liz Frank injuries that ruins
Speaker 1: the season. But the Ravens once again coming off summer
Speaker 1: in two thousand where injuries essentially blew up their season
Speaker 1: for it started. In some ways, this would not be
Speaker 1: something you want to have your first round pick out
Speaker 1: of the picture when he needs valuable raps. So they
Speaker 1: were counting on him as much as anyone is counting
Speaker 1: on a rookie lineman around at this point. It's not
Speaker 1: it's it's a sprain, not a rupture, according to Mike Garifolo,
Speaker 1: which is good. This was the linder Bomb had a
Speaker 1: liszt Frank injury in college too at Iowa, but he
Speaker 1: also recovered from that to become the highest graded PFF
Speaker 1: center in the history of PFF. So I think he's
Speaker 1: like the perfect Raven if he's healthy. I mean, they
Speaker 1: they had a great draft and he is exactly what
Speaker 1: they need. Makes the perfect Raven. Because he's hurt, well,
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a newer trend. I see where
Speaker 1: you're for the most part this um Greg's like, oh
Speaker 1: he's a human No, no, no, no. When I've been
Speaker 1: reading their reports and like, are the Ravens gonna like
Speaker 1: be devastated this year? And for the most part they've
Speaker 1: been mostly healthy. I think is Vince Biegel on their team.
Speaker 1: I think he's out for the season, was going to
Speaker 1: be like reserve linebacker. But for the most part, they've
Speaker 1: been healthy. But you're right, linder Bomb. They were going
Speaker 1: to change their offense for him because what he, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like Creed Humphrey change the Chiefs offense in
Speaker 1: a way like linder Bomb is a zone blocking, get
Speaker 1: him out in space, Jason Kelsey type of guy, and
Speaker 1: that's very much not what the Ravens have done before.
Speaker 1: And Greg Roman kind of talked about, look, we we
Speaker 1: drafted him because we want to do what he does best,
Speaker 1: and we're going to add to the mix, like become
Speaker 1: a little different on in the running game just because
Speaker 1: of linder Bombs would be a big loss. I hate
Speaker 1: to hear the Liz Frank name. I don't like when
Speaker 1: it comes up. It scares me. I know that I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be scared of it, but it's just something that happens.
Speaker 1: It's a real thing, you know, it's good. I finally
Speaker 1: understand where the segment was going considering earlier in Can
Speaker 1: I Apologize? I want to apologize to Colleen because because
Speaker 1: in the initial rundown. I had accidentally put Texans first
Speaker 1: round pick Liz Frank and literally it sent Colleen for
Speaker 1: a spin emotionally and mentally that she didn't recover from
Speaker 1: until like seconds before we started the show. Put it twice,
Speaker 1: like how many Google searches do I have to do
Speaker 1: here to figure out what the hell the story? And
Speaker 1: because it was, this was why I was concerning. And
Speaker 1: I know that we discussed this before the show, but
Speaker 1: the Texans first round pick Derek did have a list franquarter,
Speaker 1: so I was like looking for trench and updates and
Speaker 1: there's nothing from like like two weeks, like they think
Speaker 1: he'll be ready for week one. It's like, why are
Speaker 1: we discussing this in news? I can't tell you how
Speaker 1: much time I wasted trying to find the story that
Speaker 1: was not a story today. Sorry, I threw a Molotov
Speaker 1: cocktail into the pre show back on the ship to
Speaker 1: be back and let's stick with the Ravens because this
Speaker 1: is one bit of news that can't slip by us. Tucker.
Speaker 1: It would be the longest in NFL history. If it's
Speaker 1: good a sixty six yard try. Tucker's kick is on
Speaker 1: the way. It is this Groff bar and in blubbles
Speaker 1: through the time has expired. That was Sandy Tucker who
Speaker 1: they field goal in NFL history. That Harry is in
Speaker 1: a part and it's may have on the field. Bang
Speaker 1: Ravens signed Justin Tucker to a four year, twenty four
Speaker 1: million contract extension, seventeen and a half million guaranteed for
Speaker 1: a kicker. Yeah, but this is not just any kicker.
Speaker 1: This is Justin mother effing Tucker. Seven All pros and
Speaker 1: ten seasons, including five times First team. That's more than
Speaker 1: Morton Anderson Jon Stener Rude, who are both Hall of Famers.
Speaker 1: He's in the Superstar Club for a reason, and now
Speaker 1: he's paid better than any kicker ever, And that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think you're Superstar club inclusion might have um prompted
Speaker 1: the business time I got him a couple of extra
Speaker 1: zeros on the contract. Probably not, but if it did,
Speaker 1: that would be a career highlight. I love Justin touch.
Speaker 1: I'd sign him to a fifteen year contract. I just like,
Speaker 1: let's see how old is Justin Tucker. He's probably about
Speaker 1: thirty two. Now, I mean how many he's to me?
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? He's thirty two. He turns thirty three
Speaker 1: in November. Unless you get things go off the rails
Speaker 1: in a horrific way. I would like argue if he
Speaker 1: continues this for a couple more years, Greg, I think
Speaker 1: he's first ballot Hall of Fame and people need to
Speaker 1: use him as the president. I think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a better I don't think there's much argument against
Speaker 1: him as the best kicker in NFL history. Like if
Speaker 1: he retired now, so, I think you're right, he'll be
Speaker 1: in no a doubter. And that's why you know. I
Speaker 1: saw this money, and you're really happy for Justin Tucker,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, the Ravens are teams, special teams,
Speaker 1: and like this is all great, the richest kicker ever.
Speaker 1: But then you look at the contract and Justin Tucker
Speaker 1: and his family will be taken care of for the
Speaker 1: rest of their lives. I don't feel bad for them,
Speaker 1: but I just started like thinking about other NFL players
Speaker 1: and what they make, and I quickly just looked for
Speaker 1: who's making six million dollars a year on a medium term,
Speaker 1: long term deal, and I found three quick names. Recently,
Speaker 1: um Mark Glowinski offensive guard I would say a mid
Speaker 1: level guard. I believe with the chance now Ted Carriss
Speaker 1: kind of a journeyman. Uh interior alignment with and and
Speaker 1: a receiver I like a lot. So this is no shade.
Speaker 1: But Braxton Barrios, who's a nice receivers, probably the fourth
Speaker 1: receiver projects down six million a year. He's just saying it.
Speaker 1: I mean, are they winning and losing games? Like? Justin
Speaker 1: an incredible value? Who knows where the Ravens would be
Speaker 1: in the last ten years without Justin Tucker, but I
Speaker 1: will I'll say that. I wonder if he ever hit
Speaker 1: the open market, if it would be a situation. I
Speaker 1: wonder if he thought about that. I love it here,
Speaker 1: my family set up here. The Ravens have always taken
Speaker 1: care of me. But I wonder what kind of bidding
Speaker 1: would go on Justin tell a lot of bidding. And
Speaker 1: maybe it's not about the money for him. Where it
Speaker 1: stuff They're like, well, kickers have never made this much, this,
Speaker 1: that and the other. And it's like, well, it's a
Speaker 1: the kind of thing where you um, his agent would
Speaker 1: agitate many other agents if suddenly Justin Tucker's kicking salary
Speaker 1: was three times more than any other kid. Think the
Speaker 1: agents would love it. I think other teams would be like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing in the market in the market place.
Speaker 1: If he got a out of this world contract, he
Speaker 1: is an outlier. I feel like that would be understood anyway.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Ravens, they have that our favorite streak
Speaker 1: in the in the world uh professional football, twenty consecutive
Speaker 1: preseason wins, which is totally bonkers and doesn't make any
Speaker 1: sense even for a team that Oh, the Ravens try
Speaker 1: to win. So many things have to fall into place
Speaker 1: to win twenty consecutive preseason games. Guess who's up first
Speaker 1: on Thursday when they continue hope to can extend that
Speaker 1: all time preseason streak. You heard it, the Grave Diggers
Speaker 1: team the Titans. I mean, I know, I know they're
Speaker 1: not a division rival, but I know there's talking that
Speaker 1: building with Mike Rabel. They would love to take down
Speaker 1: what is like the the equivalent of football of Joe
Speaker 1: DiMaggio's fifty six game hitting streak. Can it be done?
Speaker 1: Can the Titans do it? If anyone can do it?
Speaker 1: I feel like the Titans might be well positioned because
Speaker 1: when all the third fourth stringers are on the field,
Speaker 1: the Titans at least have Malik Willis probably closing the game.
Speaker 1: And even if he can't do a whole lot, he's
Speaker 1: gonna run around and be exciting. So the Titans and
Speaker 1: the Ravens have a rivalry that goes back historically. Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel and John Harbaugh almost fought on a on like
Speaker 1: the would he would love to take that history is rich.
Speaker 1: It is just so I hope, I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Hopefully Malik Willis can make some plays and make it
Speaker 1: a game. It is bizarre. I mean, I've been going
Speaker 1: through some old preseason box scores of of like when
Speaker 1: this streak started, and at one point the Ravens are
Speaker 1: winning games with fad Lewis, Josh Woodrum, and Ryan Mallett
Speaker 1: as their quarterbacks. But they just find a way to
Speaker 1: unbelievable and they broke the Vince Lombardi Packers record. And
Speaker 1: you know Lombardi, he's an always playing bart star every snap.
Speaker 1: You know, that was the whole different world like this.
Speaker 1: This is so much stranger than whatever the Packers did
Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies or whatever. Does Jessica watch
Speaker 1: a game like this with you when it has this
Speaker 1: much meaning? She will actually probably watch with me On
Speaker 1: Thursday Hey guys, one thing before we get the show going. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's my girlfriend's birthday, Jessica. It is a gross exaggeration
Speaker 1: of how that happened. We can only whisper her name. Now.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: do uh some check ins on Greg's fifty one takeaways
Speaker 1: and Connie's Camp chickens up next. Don't look about Connie.
Speaker 1: Where do we go? Like I think I wrote this
Speaker 1: down Bucks, Rams, Broncos. You went to the Bengals, But
Speaker 1: you also said that was so long ago you don't
Speaker 1: remember it anymore. Is that correct? Pretty much? So we're
Speaker 1: not going to hold you to that was the first
Speaker 1: camp at this point, it's a little blurry like there
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hotels, a lot of plane rides,
Speaker 1: a lot of camps, a lot of stuff to remember,
Speaker 1: so memory not your strength, No wonder why um what
Speaker 1: about fans? A ton a ton of fans. I love
Speaker 1: the listeners of the show. They're the best. They are
Speaker 1: the nicest across the board, and that's always been the case.
Speaker 1: But at all of the camps there have been a
Speaker 1: t n listeners there. Even when I did something in
Speaker 1: d C with Micole Hardman and players from Bayron Munich
Speaker 1: the soccer team. And when I was there, one of
Speaker 1: the guys that works at the stadium or does pr
Speaker 1: for someone there, his name is Taylor, and he wanted
Speaker 1: me to say hello. He's such a big fan. So yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to all of the A t N listeners.
Speaker 1: Now are you getting recognized in airports NonStop? When you're
Speaker 1: going getting a lot of CONTI foxes, which I love
Speaker 1: any tiny boxes, tiny boxes, boxes, don't don't yell that
Speaker 1: out that like that people yell that out from the
Speaker 1: crowd just because I feel laugh though, police if you
Speaker 1: if you talk to her private, I just feel like
Speaker 1: that could confuse a lot of people and it makes
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, but not not apparently nothing. I went to
Speaker 1: a concert and only what I'm Friday with my Bob.
Speaker 1: We saw Sam Fender, who's like an up and coming
Speaker 1: British rock guy, and we got there yeah, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, you noticed in this venue that
Speaker 1: at the fund of theater a lot of Brits are
Speaker 1: there And I was like, okay, Like our throwback pot
Speaker 1: has a lot of like overseas listeners. It's Sam Fender,
Speaker 1: A lot of people came over to see him in
Speaker 1: a small venue as opposed to watching him in the
Speaker 1: seven throw Glastonbury. I'm setting the over under two and
Speaker 1: a half for a t N listeners being here. Within
Speaker 1: thirty seconds I turned around, there was a guy right
Speaker 1: in front of me with his wife, very nice. Talk
Speaker 1: to him intermittently throughout the evening the performance. Two more
Speaker 1: people and the we hit the over, hit the over.
Speaker 1: They're everywhere now. I like that. Cots knew you guys.
Speaker 1: Did the large man like follow you around the venue? No? No,
Speaker 1: it was just like a general admission scenario and we
Speaker 1: had a good spot on the stage, like one more point.
Speaker 1: Don that happens sometimes. The guy that was outside of
Speaker 1: Elmo's at the Combine was my favorite, just completely took
Speaker 1: his attention away from everything else. You have that effect
Speaker 1: on people. County congratulation. Thank you, Thank you. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Do you want to share it
Speaker 1: before we get to Greg's top fifty one? Do you
Speaker 1: want to share something from one of the camps, maybe
Speaker 1: foots on the ground. I think your your notes are
Speaker 1: going to be better. So the most recent place I
Speaker 1: was I was at the RAMS on this past Saturday. Um,
Speaker 1: and I know that you guys had Allen Robinson on
Speaker 1: the pod. That was a great interview. I was cracking
Speaker 1: up Mark when you asked him if him and Stafford
Speaker 1: just like look at each other sometimes and are like
Speaker 1: they we're way better off at this point. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: got to be real, Um. But he caught a beautiful
Speaker 1: no look pass from Stafford on Saturday. It was right
Speaker 1: behind us UM where we were doing the show. Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup raved about him afterwards, so they obviously love him.
Speaker 1: It's not hard to see how he's going to be
Speaker 1: amazing in this all offense. But Leonard Floyd Um was
Speaker 1: another guy that we talked to on defense who he's
Speaker 1: going to have an interesting role in the past rush
Speaker 1: considering von Miller isn't there anymore. And I feel like
Speaker 1: his journey is one that people don't really talk about
Speaker 1: a lot because he was cut by the Bears. He
Speaker 1: signed a one year deal with the Rams. He delivered,
Speaker 1: then he got a really nice pay day and won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So his last two seasons have been
Speaker 1: the best of his career. He has twenty sacks and
Speaker 1: the last two seasons combined, and he had offseason ankle
Speaker 1: surgery this past year. It was something that had bothered
Speaker 1: him all season. He had played through it, so now
Speaker 1: he's healthy. I think he's going to play a big
Speaker 1: role in that pass rush. But there was a hilarious
Speaker 1: exchange when we were talking to him because m j
Speaker 1: D was NonStop talking about his rams super Bowl ring
Speaker 1: all day long. So I asked him how important m
Speaker 1: j D was to their super Bowl run and Floyd's
Speaker 1: response was that he didn't know m j D worked
Speaker 1: for the team, and that really just made everything so
Speaker 1: worth I took it down a peg, I assume, yeah,
Speaker 1: but in terms of like that he's the best, He's
Speaker 1: so much hard to where he could take that. Oh
Speaker 1: he was. He was not happy about it. And then
Speaker 1: and then Floyd was like, well, my ring is bigger
Speaker 1: than yours. And Jenny was like, we got the same ring,
Speaker 1: it's the same size. Is that true? Yeah, because we
Speaker 1: had J B Long who was at the same ring.
Speaker 1: J's partner on the radio. That's pretty cool that you
Speaker 1: get the same ring. O. Yeah, they don't give you,
Speaker 1: like would be that respect that would make sense, like
Speaker 1: if you're you're on the coaching staff. Hell, even within
Speaker 1: the team. I think Matthew Stafford's ring should be way
Speaker 1: bigger than I don't know, like John Wolford The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: like that would be Aaron Donald's rings should be you
Speaker 1: could see it from space. I could see a lot
Speaker 1: of hard feelings there, but not as big as you know.
Speaker 1: It just keeps guys hungry. Sometimes you hear about, oh
Speaker 1: this idea, Well, they want a title and they got
Speaker 1: soft not if your ring sucks, nothing would push them
Speaker 1: to do to achieve more. I worry about their pastors.
Speaker 1: They're They're one of those teams that there's some good
Speaker 1: teams where everything is like set, Like the Bengals have
Speaker 1: no position battles for instance, going on. There's just a
Speaker 1: few really boring camps because there's not much to be settled.
Speaker 1: The Vikings, weirdly are one of them. The Rams have
Speaker 1: open spots, is my point. Like Floyd has the one
Speaker 1: and a total question mark of who's going to kind
Speaker 1: of be their other addressers. All right, that's good, and
Speaker 1: by the way, I I still think there's a little
Speaker 1: more to the Stafford thing that everybody is trying to
Speaker 1: chill everybody out. UM with the elbow situation. Um with
Speaker 1: Stafford on Friday when we were there, talk to somebody
Speaker 1: high up with the team off Mike and he kind
Speaker 1: of laughed it off, is nothing. Then Sean McVeigh after
Speaker 1: Stafford through in Saturday's practice said he will sleep better.
Speaker 1: Why would you say you sleep better if it everyone says, oh,
Speaker 1: this is no. They don't know. No one really knows,
Speaker 1: You're right. I think it's a little bit more of
Speaker 1: an issue than they want publicly people to let on,
Speaker 1: and hopefully it doesn't. I thought, you know, saying that
Speaker 1: he's never dealt with an injury like this, it's more
Speaker 1: of a baseball thing, but that, like, I think it's
Speaker 1: a wait and see the situation that could be more
Speaker 1: concerning than six the ardor and that was I think
Speaker 1: what McVeigh was specifically answering was like, Oh that was that.
Speaker 1: I think it's more of just a pain tolerance thing
Speaker 1: to not necessarily something that's going to affect how he throws,
Speaker 1: just how he deals with the pain when he does throw.
Speaker 1: This sounds to me like it's been a situation that
Speaker 1: they've dealt with for a while, at least Stafford has
Speaker 1: for a while. And I think the reason they knew
Speaker 1: about it when they're hoping for relief with there, and
Speaker 1: they didn't get it. We're not gonna We're not gonna
Speaker 1: see Stafford obviously in the preseason. We're not going to
Speaker 1: see according to the l A Times John Wolford either.
Speaker 1: So this is just a little quiz your depth chart knowledge.
Speaker 1: Who would be get in line to get snaps for
Speaker 1: the Rams? No, looking at your laptop, Greg, I got it,
Speaker 1: but I give it about Bryce Perkins. I was there
Speaker 1: for the last year's preseason opener and Perkins played the
Speaker 1: whole time basically, And how does your mind work? A
Speaker 1: memory effected? Yeah, I mean it is, but it contains
Speaker 1: got the rock. What do you give me a fifty one?
Speaker 1: Give me one of the fifty one? What's your favorite one? Well,
Speaker 1: not favorite, but I think the juiciest one we haven't
Speaker 1: discussed on this show is the whole Patriots idea that
Speaker 1: they're really going through with, like installing this zone blocking
Speaker 1: scheme that after after twenty one years, Charlie Weiss arrives,
Speaker 1: you could really go back to the mid eighties with
Speaker 1: Ron Earhart and Bill Belichick will talk about it when
Speaker 1: they installed this offense for Phil Simson and other players
Speaker 1: on the Giants but with the Patriots, you can go
Speaker 1: back twenty one years to the offense Charlie Weiss installed.
Speaker 1: They've been running that offense since. In terms of the
Speaker 1: running game, it's like like a power power running game, uh,
Speaker 1: where you're taking up the blockers. Now they see what's
Speaker 1: going on around the league. They lose Josh McDaniels, who's
Speaker 1: a fantastic offensive coordinator, and there was like this kind
Speaker 1: of whispers like, oh, we're gonna start installing this zone
Speaker 1: blocking scheme in the off season, but people weren't really
Speaker 1: sure if they meant it um and the Patriots weren't
Speaker 1: talking about it because they don't talk about anything. Fast
Speaker 1: forward to this training camp and anyone watching the Patriots
Speaker 1: on a daily basis is saying they didn't just like
Speaker 1: tweaked the old offense. They ripped it up. They started
Speaker 1: from scratch, and it's going horribly that mac Jones looks
Speaker 1: out of sync. He looks uncomfortable. The most um telling
Speaker 1: quote Tom Current pointed out, and this is why Curran's
Speaker 1: the best. That just sort of as an aside, Mac
Speaker 1: Jones said at one point in his press conference that
Speaker 1: he was getting his feet wet in the new offense,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, wait, we didn't totally know you
Speaker 1: had a new offense, and wait, why is Mac Jones
Speaker 1: getting his feet wet? Also, they were a top ten
Speaker 1: scoring team with a rookie quarterback and a pretty lackluster
Speaker 1: group around him. They were a very effective offense last
Speaker 1: year considering they had a rookie quarterback, primarily because of
Speaker 1: their running game, and um, he ripped it all up.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, it's gonna be Matt Patricia
Speaker 1: and Joe freaking Judge. That's like, that's installing it and
Speaker 1: I was trying to It's just it's what a rippled
Speaker 1: trickle down effect from losing Josh McDaniels, because none of
Speaker 1: this would be happening and you'd be, you know, enveloping
Speaker 1: Matt Jones with a great offensive coordinator. And now instead
Speaker 1: you have the hubris of the Patriots to think, we'll
Speaker 1: just install Matt Patricia as an untitled play caller. That's
Speaker 1: who's in, Like, how does he know how to install? Like, well,
Speaker 1: why is it fine? Sean? No, I don't think it
Speaker 1: is fine. I think, well, no, that's not fine either.
Speaker 1: You're right, But if they were running the same offense,
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe that can work. You have Belichick
Speaker 1: running it, you have the institution, and maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: all work in the end. But it is a huge
Speaker 1: departure from their gap heavy sort of power rushing attack
Speaker 1: which was the core of their offense. And these are
Speaker 1: the guys installing know exactly where this is going. It
Speaker 1: might work out in the end, but managed to a
Speaker 1: very important story. This is just another version of oh
Speaker 1: my god, what are the Patriots doing? They have no
Speaker 1: idea what they're doing. And I mean talk to me
Speaker 1: in like November, because the Patriots always end up starting
Speaker 1: a little slow anywhere angle. I think they are a
Speaker 1: huge obviously, they represent a huge question mark in the
Speaker 1: A f C entering the season, and it does seem
Speaker 1: to point to if you're getting the Patriots on the schedule,
Speaker 1: and this is kind of how it always has been,
Speaker 1: like get him in September and into October because there
Speaker 1: probably will be some bumps and bruises for this team
Speaker 1: trying to figure things out right now. But again also
Speaker 1: with Patricia, yeah it's the play caller, but things if
Speaker 1: things are going poorly and the boss thinks it's Patricia
Speaker 1: playing a role, well, Elichick is gonna call plays. He's
Speaker 1: gonna take practices where he has right And I think
Speaker 1: if this zone blocking scheme is going poorly, he might
Speaker 1: just rip that up and give up. Why are they doing?
Speaker 1: That's what I would think. But current Bill Belichick thinks
Speaker 1: it's better for the Patriots. I think the personnel that's
Speaker 1: the thing that's confusing. They have these big offensive lineman
Speaker 1: that on paper fit the old scheme better. Oh when
Speaker 1: you certainly Trent Brown to me that you know they
Speaker 1: drafted Isaiah Win with this other scheme in mind, then
Speaker 1: they draft call Strange and that was sort of like
Speaker 1: a a tip off to where they were going. Who's
Speaker 1: maybe gonna fit better in like a zone scheming. Current
Speaker 1: thinks that belichicks into deep that that basically he thinks
Speaker 1: this is gonna be better for the organization in the
Speaker 1: really long run, and that if they have to stink,
Speaker 1: even for a season or whatever, it's gonna be that
Speaker 1: he felt like, basically they were running this old attack
Speaker 1: and the league has changed, and this was the change
Speaker 1: he wanted to see and that he's gonna stick with it.
Speaker 1: But Greg Bdard, who has watched every Patriots practice forever,
Speaker 1: was like this was the worst practices I have seen
Speaker 1: in my life, with maybe the exception of the Cam
Speaker 1: Cameron Dolphins, is that is it worth it to put
Speaker 1: Mac Jones through that? Just in his second year in
Speaker 1: the league, when he said, young, how many voices are
Speaker 1: in his head right now? To calling plays when you're
Speaker 1: used to just one Josh McDaniels and you guys have
Speaker 1: a rhythm, and now all of a sudden, there's like
Speaker 1: three different voices and three different personalities. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of what bad teams do, where it's like you had
Speaker 1: you had the best rookie quarterback a year ago, and
Speaker 1: you've found a way to muddle it up and remove
Speaker 1: all momentum. I think I'm the only one. Not really,
Speaker 1: I'm not paying I'm not freaking out as much as
Speaker 1: like I find it fascinating, because I do find the
Speaker 1: excellent fascinating is one thing, But team is not disorganized.
Speaker 1: It was a calculated move and they sort of used
Speaker 1: the mc annuals departure for him to do something he
Speaker 1: wanted and it I I don't question his bona fides,
Speaker 1: but it's dramatic considering they've they've literally been running out
Speaker 1: of that old playbook and some capacity for twenty one years.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's one of the Belichick even with
Speaker 1: Brady there, sometimes it took time for them to figure
Speaker 1: things out. And maybe it's a little more rocky this year,
Speaker 1: or maybe even a lot more rocky. But I think
Speaker 1: come November, I think they're going to be in the
Speaker 1: mix for the wild card. They could be in the
Speaker 1: mix for the division. Um. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like idea that the Patriots are gonna be terrible
Speaker 1: this year because some of these things going on. I
Speaker 1: think there's a better chance that they figure it out.
Speaker 1: By the time it counts, they'll probably win nine games
Speaker 1: or ten games. I don't have an issue with that.
Speaker 1: I just something about the whole Matt Patricia and come
Speaker 1: back home things that they've dealt with. It is unusual
Speaker 1: to me, all right, Connie, what else? Okay? So, also
Speaker 1: two little random things on the ground with Tampa. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this, but Mike
Speaker 1: Evans before he um hurt himself, he is a huge
Speaker 1: Harry Potter fan, so much so that he got a
Speaker 1: Harry Potter tattoo, a pretty sizeable Harry Potter tattoo. On
Speaker 1: his calf this off season, which I was with Steve
Speaker 1: Smith Sr. In Tampa and we were asking him, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Harry Potter hasn't really come out with anything
Speaker 1: new in a while, So what prompted you this particular
Speaker 1: off season to go with the tattoo? He loves Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: He said, he watches it every day and that's how
Speaker 1: he falls as That's how he falls asleep every night
Speaker 1: putting on a little HP. That is the last thing
Speaker 1: that I would want in my ear as I was
Speaker 1: falling asleep. He said a little He said that that's
Speaker 1: a direct quote little HP. He was so funny about it.
Speaker 1: He was great. And then we also talked to Leonard
Speaker 1: for Nett, who had a lot of fun about all
Speaker 1: of the trash everyone was talking about him coming into
Speaker 1: camp overweight. Um. He laughed a lot about it. But
Speaker 1: he also, I don't know if you guys saw this,
Speaker 1: there was a clip floating around on social of him
Speaker 1: brushing his teeth on the sideline at practice, and so
Speaker 1: we were asking him about that and he told us
Speaker 1: that he has about right now Ballpark, about forty toothbrushes
Speaker 1: in his locker. So I tried to get into the
Speaker 1: weeds on that a little bit more to to find
Speaker 1: out why. But I was getting wrapped, So there is
Speaker 1: some intrigue there as to why he has My father
Speaker 1: in law is a retired dentist. I'm gonna ask him
Speaker 1: when is it too much in terms of brushing. I
Speaker 1: would imagine you would run into potential enamel issues if
Speaker 1: you're repeatedly scrubbing, you know. I think I would be
Speaker 1: more concerned about gums, like gum recession, you know what.
Speaker 1: So wait, the NFL network decided that wasn't not a
Speaker 1: interesting enough We had been talking to him for a while.
Speaker 1: This was at the end of the interview, um, and
Speaker 1: so he was just going on and on about how
Speaker 1: important mouth hygiene is. Um. He's like, by the way,
Speaker 1: there was a break. Yeah. So those were two little
Speaker 1: things from Bucks. I get I'm in the lead. I'm
Speaker 1: in the weeds a little bit like things like Harry
Speaker 1: Potter and Lord of the Rings. But I understand it's
Speaker 1: it's incredibly meaningful of those franchises to people. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about Potter about a giant tattoo on the
Speaker 1: calf for a thirty year old man. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I was seeing like, is there a point
Speaker 1: he gets older, maybe he ends up having a family
Speaker 1: where he feels differently about Harry Potter. But I think
Speaker 1: the answer is probably no. If he's this in at
Speaker 1: this point, he's got I don't know if he has children,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure he's excited to introduce the Harry Potter franchise,
Speaker 1: maybe the books. I mean, if it makes him, I'm
Speaker 1: sure every day that he sees it, it makes him happy.
Speaker 1: Who's to be graduated? Jason LTE's son, uh uh? The
Speaker 1: Bucks GM His son was there waiting for an autograph
Speaker 1: from Mike Evans and so we brought him over during
Speaker 1: the interview, and Mike Evans and and us we were
Speaker 1: asking him if he knows anything about Harry Potter. He's
Speaker 1: a young kid, little kid. I had no idea of
Speaker 1: what it was. Mark, do you want to throw out
Speaker 1: a nug from Greg's right up there? You number nineteen?
Speaker 1: Is this the old number nineteen? Or that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Not since the Texans Tyler Linde mom drama has something
Speaker 1: gotten so confusing Rocky Morning, Um, this is so predictable
Speaker 1: to me. I can't believe that this is happening. We
Speaker 1: already didn't know what was gonna happen. Carson Wentz is
Speaker 1: struggle leading camp with its accuracy to the point where
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is having to openly discuss it and say
Speaker 1: that they're not thrilled with how he's playing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just like you went out and heat steeked this
Speaker 1: quarterback when the market was still wide open to go
Speaker 1: in a number of different directions. And Carson Wentz has
Speaker 1: been a hot mess in multiple venues years in a row,
Speaker 1: and now he's in Washington struggling, big surprise. And I
Speaker 1: think it's notable because the other side is he's having
Speaker 1: a great camp. He's really picking up. It's like he's
Speaker 1: standing out to what what was the one of the
Speaker 1: defensive players was chasing him out of bounds and yelling
Speaker 1: at get rid of it, get rid of it, right
Speaker 1: because he was like he was outside the pocket in
Speaker 1: a normal play. Manta Sweat is chasing him. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get the sack on the play, and it's saying get
Speaker 1: rid of it, get rid of it, like don't go
Speaker 1: out of bounds because you're gonna take a seven yard lost.
Speaker 1: But Wentz did not get rid of it. It's just
Speaker 1: I've seen this play so many times, so I know
Speaker 1: how the movie ends. It's great. They've also been missing
Speaker 1: three of their starting offensive lineman almost the whole time.
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel has been in and out. But it Wentz
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily pass that. I feel like they're the baseline
Speaker 1: test of an NFL quarterback is like, when you're protected
Speaker 1: in a game, can you deliver? Because almost all of
Speaker 1: him camp, like Daniel Jones to me, for instance, passes that. Like,
Speaker 1: if you're just protected, Baker certainly passed it. If you're protected,
Speaker 1: can you just deliver? That's sort of the baseline. And
Speaker 1: like Wentz is doing this against air, it's not against
Speaker 1: the pass rush. It's not not even when when they
Speaker 1: have well, at least he's a ferocious team leader. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just as poorly every single team. The reporters are like, well,
Speaker 1: the defense is crushing the offense. So that is every camps,
Speaker 1: every time, the defense is always ahead of the offense,
Speaker 1: except for Jared goff Like they just like Jared goff is.
Speaker 1: But with Wentz, it's like the main thing coming out
Speaker 1: of camp is that he is consistently inconsistent, and that
Speaker 1: has been his entire career. I mean up until that
Speaker 1: seventeen year when he got hurt. He was really good.
Speaker 1: Before that, you could see the flashes and they boom.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we have to watch Jared Goff again
Speaker 1: on a high profile NFL Films documentary series. That's part
Speaker 1: of it is And I think you might have rams
Speaker 1: all or Nothing, RAMS twenty all or nothing rams and
Speaker 1: now are hard knocks Rams and now somehow impossibly almost
Speaker 1: two thousand lines. It's not Goff's fault in a way,
Speaker 1: It's just that there was so much. He's not the
Speaker 1: most dynamic presence, but they have a lot of other
Speaker 1: personality on him. Let's hope Williams has a huge personality.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a star on the show.
Speaker 1: Like at this point in the NFL Films crew, Like
Speaker 1: there has to be multiple people in that crew that's
Speaker 1: getting invited to Goff's wedding. They have to be close
Speaker 1: at that. They have spent a lot of times, all right,
Speaker 1: give us another Camp Chicken. So for the Colts, um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm really high on the Colts And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just because I ended up
Speaker 1: like spending a little bit more time with them or not.
Speaker 1: But Frank Reich, he is over the moon with um
Speaker 1: Matt Mattie. I was going to call hi, Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: This is all connected directly to Carson Wentz by the
Speaker 1: way too, because they didn't wait to get him out
Speaker 1: of the building. So anybody that comes in they're gonna
Speaker 1: be happy about. But then when it's a former m
Speaker 1: v P and a potential Hall of Famer, it was
Speaker 1: put it this way, not to talk of you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw it right back to this was a perfect
Speaker 1: um storm for Matt Ryan lovin this summer. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: no question about it. And all I've heard from the
Speaker 1: team is just how intense Matt Ryan has been since
Speaker 1: coming in, just taking taking over that like leadership role,
Speaker 1: teaching everyone NonStop like everyone absolutely loves him. And also
Speaker 1: the fact that Frank Reich finally got Reggie Wayne on
Speaker 1: the staff. This was something that Frank Reich had been
Speaker 1: trying for for years. He said that he probably called
Speaker 1: Reggie like fifty times to come and be the wide
Speaker 1: receivers coach. So now Reggie's there, and they really love
Speaker 1: their rookie Alec Pierce out of Cincinnati. He's fast, he's
Speaker 1: got good hands, he can catch those balls. And this
Speaker 1: is an offense where Michael Pittman Jr. He really emerged
Speaker 1: as the number one target last year. So now if
Speaker 1: they can get something out of Alec Pierce, I think
Speaker 1: that he could play a big role in this offense.
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, Well, it's like Paris Campbell season. Uh. You
Speaker 1: hope that the injuries don't happen again. Maybe they don't
Speaker 1: this year. But this is like when I think about
Speaker 1: this offense with Matt Ryan, the fact that he's never
Speaker 1: had a run game like this, this is one of
Speaker 1: the best offensive lines he's probably had. Also, something that
Speaker 1: I found out at camp it is not pronounced Bobby
Speaker 1: o greeky. He is going with a more traditional Nigerian pronunciation,
Speaker 1: so it's bobby Okayricka. That's news you can use exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Shack leonard Um. I asked the Forest Buckner like if
Speaker 1: it was weird. Uh. He was like, no, We've all
Speaker 1: been calling him shock and so it really wasn't like
Speaker 1: that big of a deal for us. But he was
Speaker 1: like the okayackay thing through me. He's like, because I
Speaker 1: usually like greet him in the parking lot every day
Speaker 1: and say, oh, go Ricky, and he's like, so, now
Speaker 1: I can I gotta like change that up a little bit,
Speaker 1: all those all those times, like a tear was going
Speaker 1: down his cheeks. He decided this year. But um, I
Speaker 1: did find it interesting that like their their schedule, they
Speaker 1: haven't won a season opener since the Colts that always
Speaker 1: start really slow and they play I think it's the
Speaker 1: Texans and then the Jags on the road first this year,
Speaker 1: so like getting a fast start, so they're not in
Speaker 1: the situation that they were in last year where they
Speaker 1: needed to win one of their you know, two last
Speaker 1: games to actually make the playoffs. If they can get
Speaker 1: a fast start, then that would be nice because then
Speaker 1: their home openers against the Chiefs week three, they might
Speaker 1: they might have Shaquille Leonard. That to me is more
Speaker 1: concerning than the change. He's hurt. And I think you
Speaker 1: mentioned Pierce as a starter. They're gonna have a couple
Speaker 1: of rookie starters. Sounds like Nick Cross, like a third
Speaker 1: round rookie safety has just been one of those guys
Speaker 1: that they say like immediate day one starter, which you
Speaker 1: do not necessarily expect that of a third round pick.
Speaker 1: They had another third round pick who it was a
Speaker 1: lot of people's top tight end in the entire draft,
Speaker 1: gilannie Woods, who was apparently buried and like wouldn't probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't make the team if not for being the third
Speaker 1: round pick in his fourth or fifth on the depth chart.
Speaker 1: But that's one of those guys. Like on draft A
Speaker 1: fantasy heads are like, oh, gilannie Woods, that could be
Speaker 1: someone we draft, and then you get to the camp
Speaker 1: and and he's buried. All right, let's take a break
Speaker 1: and then finish out our conversation. All right, welcome back.
Speaker 1: Let's hit a couple more greg on your list. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what you point out on number thirteen or
Speaker 1: is it number twelve? Under cause for concern? It's officially
Speaker 1: time to worry about the Packer offensive line. They've been
Speaker 1: struggling in camp. Uh, Elgin Jenkins headed for the publist
Speaker 1: most likely to start the season. We all know what's
Speaker 1: going on David back tr and what what what I
Speaker 1: mean is nobody knows what's going on with David backr
Speaker 1: other than he's missed basically all of last season and
Speaker 1: there's no timetable for return now. And I think it
Speaker 1: makes me think more bigger picture, and we just talked
Speaker 1: about it with the Patriots earlier teams that watch out
Speaker 1: maybe for slow starts. Not only is the line of
Speaker 1: work in progress um in front of Aaron Rodgers, Obviously
Speaker 1: chemistry is different with Davante Adams not there, and Rogers
Speaker 1: has to learn how to you know, get a connection
Speaker 1: with his new wide receivers. So you combined the loss
Speaker 1: of the star wide receiver with offensive line and transition.
Speaker 1: That has the recipe for some ten to twenty point weeks, right,
Speaker 1: and you're at You're at Vikings week one, You're at
Speaker 1: the Bucks week three, two tricky road games. They it's
Speaker 1: just asking a lot of Rogers. Packers fans will point out, like, look,
Speaker 1: Jenkins and Backdary were gone most of the y, which
Speaker 1: it is a totally fair point than the gate scenes
Speaker 1: in the end, but they also it's just like guys
Speaker 1: you don't think about Lucas Patrick left for the Bears,
Speaker 1: Billy Turner left for the Broncos. So those were guys
Speaker 1: that were starting and playing for them too. So it's just, man,
Speaker 1: it's asking. It's a Rogers kind of makes his offensive
Speaker 1: lineman in some way, but that's asking a lot. It's
Speaker 1: putting so much on Rogers this year. They really are
Speaker 1: putting a lot unsure as you got another one, Mark,
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by the reports on Isaiah Pacheco in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: seventh rounder in the running back race, and they you
Speaker 1: just send Gregg Writes and his thing. He's making noise
Speaker 1: in a wide open running back battle and he just
Speaker 1: moves different. He's getting he's getting first team snaps with
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. So that's the kind of stuff I like
Speaker 1: to watch in the preseason as someone who's bubbling up
Speaker 1: in practice starting to penetrate the first team depth chart.
Speaker 1: Enter Mark Sessler, Zack Center All this guy sounds a
Speaker 1: little spicier than out center. Potago is one of those
Speaker 1: guys that you saw like in the draft process, that man,
Speaker 1: he just moves crazy. He's a little bit of an
Speaker 1: upright runner. Uh But he's someone in the preseason that
Speaker 1: can earn a role, like a big role. It sounds
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be their kick returner, which means he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on their game day roster. And it's Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: That running back room seems like totally wide open for
Speaker 1: him to just step in and be one of a
Speaker 1: preseason rushing champion. Never forget you more than any other
Speaker 1: person preseason rushing ship. I think that matters. I feel
Speaker 1: like Damie also carved out not the worst little career
Speaker 1: for himself. I mean he hung around. Texans fourth round
Speaker 1: pick Damian Pierce feels like another fantasy like sleeper that
Speaker 1: could emerge in the preseason, but that the rookie like
Speaker 1: reports are important, probably more important than anything. Like there's
Speaker 1: some guys like Romeo Dubbs in Green Bay. It's like,
Speaker 1: now you'd be surprised if he wasn't starting or having
Speaker 1: a big role in Week one and he was a
Speaker 1: fourth round rookie that he's already passed Christian Watson, the
Speaker 1: guy that they rated up all those picks four in
Speaker 1: the second round, who hasn't been able to play at all.
Speaker 1: But then there's also the flip side. And the one
Speaker 1: point I did want to just get in here before
Speaker 1: he moved off was the Bill's cornerback situation that Kayer Elam,
Speaker 1: their first round pick, has really been struggling, that they've
Speaker 1: picked on him, and they they're thinking, maybe it's because
Speaker 1: you have to go against Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs
Speaker 1: in this offense and practice every day, but that you know,
Speaker 1: he's splitting reps with the sixth round pick Christian Benford,
Speaker 1: who has maybe looked a little better, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of look at the whole picture. Trade Avious White
Speaker 1: is coming off of a torn a c L. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to practice at all. They're a little
Speaker 1: thin there to begin with. It's like Dane Jackson and
Speaker 1: a couple of rookies that are struggling and potentially got
Speaker 1: the Rams. Week one, the defending champs is two and
Speaker 1: a half point underdogs at home. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: Rainmakers coming out on August eight, but traditionally that one caught.
Speaker 1: That one caught my eye because you know it's the
Speaker 1: home gate team in Week one. Generally I would give
Speaker 1: them regardless and they could be matching up against some
Speaker 1: pretty nice receivers there for the Rams. I am just
Speaker 1: looking over your article, which everybody should check out. You
Speaker 1: could find it on NFL dot com. Um. The weird
Speaker 1: coach stuff section is something that I didn't notice when
Speaker 1: I first pulled up this article. But I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that Brian day Ball isn't letting the media or fans.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you police fans post any
Speaker 1: clips from practice after before? I think there are a
Speaker 1: decent amount of teams that do this. So initially media
Speaker 1: is putting up the videos and and that's happens all
Speaker 1: over the place. You see it all over the place.
Speaker 1: And then they have the pr staffers or whoever, like
Speaker 1: the really lowly coaching assistants like tell the media you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to do that. We're gonna change policy, changed
Speaker 1: policy a couple of days into practice. You're very important
Speaker 1: to make the wide receivers of the Bears. You humanize them.
Speaker 1: But then the coaching staff is referred to as the
Speaker 1: lowly members of the coaching staff. I get it. But
Speaker 1: table is the one who's being a jerk to them
Speaker 1: by like, okay, you gotta be the one to tell
Speaker 1: the media they can't send out videos. But then even
Speaker 1: lower than that is whoever stuck going into the crowd
Speaker 1: and stopping the fan. But but you know what's interesting,
Speaker 1: what was most interesting about it, and I think this
Speaker 1: was Dan Dugan of the athletics. Way to fight back,
Speaker 1: just a little bit was he said without mentioning. A
Speaker 1: source said that Dable has staffers monitoring other teams videos
Speaker 1: that have less stringent policy, So he actually believes there
Speaker 1: is a competitive advantage. But I like that, Duke, and
Speaker 1: put it out there that Dable's got people checking Twitter
Speaker 1: to find uh maybe let's say some division rivals or
Speaker 1: whatever that might be. Like they're doing like scouting reports
Speaker 1: on Twitter and into seeing what they can get. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge. Let's see how he does.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else from your takeaways? Connie? Before
Speaker 1: we move? Those were the main ones. Those were the
Speaker 1: good ones. All right, keep following, Connie. She's going to
Speaker 1: Minnesota next where else You're going, Oh yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: last stop. Yeah, I think we're going to talk to Justin.
Speaker 1: You're gonna t g I Fridays in Minnesota, plush, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to That same bartender still operates out
Speaker 1: of the hotel. Do you do you remember that? That's
Speaker 1: all I remember is that I walked out those doors
Speaker 1: and it was a short, cold waf It's not inann
Speaker 1: I believe, north of downtown and you were at the
Speaker 1: Mall of America doing that thing. Yes, check out the
Speaker 1: well known hotel chain that also has a t J Fridays.
Speaker 1: That is a very famous stop on the A t
Speaker 1: and History tour. Still to this day, the only guests
Speaker 1: of uh, we're lucky enough to be able to bring
Speaker 1: guests with the super Bowl, the only guests that we're
Speaker 1: still awake at three am and getting loose. Um. When
Speaker 1: we got back to the hotel after recording the super
Speaker 1: Bowl wrap up podcast, my bro there Kevin danger Hands
Speaker 1: and my brother in law Tanner Bates, U S Military
Speaker 1: man Um still the only people that were ever still rocking,
Speaker 1: good crew we got home. That was fun time with
Speaker 1: the Fridays. I can't figure which hotel this is. It's
Speaker 1: confusing because there's actually a Friday's in the mall of
Speaker 1: that's how popular and that's how good this Friday is
Speaker 1: is they have such great service that they've survived despite
Speaker 1: there being another Friday. Literally half of my all day
Speaker 1: the roller coaster and do all of the things that
Speaker 1: we had done right. Of course, I forget what other
Speaker 1: rides we wanted. That was long afternoon and there's probably
Speaker 1: no digital foot footprint of all at all connected, completely
Speaker 1: lost in the We do have the pictures though, of
Speaker 1: us um I love the West in those pictures is
Speaker 1: a standout. That's the first West had been like to me, Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you were so pigeon toed. And
Speaker 1: I was like, thanks, West, thanks for noticing. Like when
Speaker 1: I get tired, it becomes more announced. West weirdly was
Speaker 1: super into people's gaits. He noticed everyone's different types of walks,
Speaker 1: and he would categorize them, and he would speak and
Speaker 1: analyze them. It's true. Often yeah, he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the best athletes in the world are pigeon too.
Speaker 1: Pigeon he was part of the also have incredible calf muscles.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's sorry. He loved he loved calves and others.
Speaker 1: So maybe he was in my He loved he loved
Speaker 1: what was inside of him. Don't we all, um, all right,
Speaker 1: before we go, why don't we check in, uh quotables.
Speaker 1: What are some quotes that justin graver uh, sometimes with
Speaker 1: our assistants, sometimes on his own, came across in the
Speaker 1: last week or so, and let's react to them. But
Speaker 1: turn it over to you, Mr grave Digger. All right.
Speaker 1: I wanted to Yes, I really wanted to like expand
Speaker 1: and hear from some coaches or players that we hadn't
Speaker 1: heard from in the last segment. Unfortunately, is just so
Speaker 1: like he's perfect for this segment. Everyone was talking about
Speaker 1: this whenever never apologize. Yeah, I just you know, we're
Speaker 1: not a team that you know, We're not a team
Speaker 1: that reaches the ball across the goal line, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh um, you know. I told the guys, hey, after
Speaker 1: you score touchdowns, celebrate, have fun today. This is a
Speaker 1: this isn't a true game, but we're playing it like
Speaker 1: a game. But in between the white lions. So this
Speaker 1: was Baker Mayfield hit former Brown's teammate Chard higgins um
Speaker 1: for a touchdown and higgins leaning did they lean the
Speaker 1: ball over the thing? And rule kind of like shut
Speaker 1: the whole thing down and said, we don't celebrate that way.
Speaker 1: The Panthers don't operate that way. This is not how
Speaker 1: we we do things. And it caught fire on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You're saying, like in between the white lines, like celebrate
Speaker 1: but not don't celebrate first downs. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it got missed considered a little bit because a lot
Speaker 1: of teams, I think smartly have a don't uh you know,
Speaker 1: put the ball over the goal line. The Patriot It's
Speaker 1: like every anytime someone messes up doing that. They're like,
Speaker 1: how come they don't just make them not do that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what. I it's fine to get on. Matt
Speaker 1: rule has been incredibly unsuccessful so far, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give him a pass on this one. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was used as a reason why he sucks again, but
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I'm not buying this one.
Speaker 1: Everyone made fun of the we're not a team that
Speaker 1: reaches the ball across the goal line, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know, don't score? Got it? Got it? Got it?
Speaker 1: He stepped right into that one. Whatever, what else? All right,
Speaker 1: here's Mike McCarthy explaining why he chose the mojo after
Speaker 1: a slow start here, what do why do you chose mojo?
Speaker 1: And Daddy's talking mojo moments again? Alright, yeah, this, let's
Speaker 1: hear it. You know, because when you get ready for
Speaker 1: team meeting, obviously you look at in your office and uh,
Speaker 1: sitting there watching my office, I just thought this thing
Speaker 1: was the funniest thing ever, you know, and then you
Speaker 1: play in the team meeting and that's not the response
Speaker 1: you get. And I said, I said, well, I obviously
Speaker 1: enjoyed us a lot more than they did, but they
Speaker 1: it made the point it's always trying to do something.
Speaker 1: Oh he's reflecting on last year on Hard It's back.
Speaker 1: I saw this actually doing to go well last summer.
Speaker 1: I did. I was doing my column and I saw
Speaker 1: last Monday he was talking about how he had brought
Speaker 1: mojo moments back last year because they were on Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks last year, of course, and um in his Mojo
Speaker 1: moments set up, he had a clip from Austin Powers
Speaker 1: to the Spy Shay and ninety percent of the roster
Speaker 1: wasn't even born when it came out. So maybe one
Speaker 1: thing he updated was some of his pop culture references
Speaker 1: within mojo moments. But I don't know right, And but
Speaker 1: he they're having a Kicker competition there. They both had
Speaker 1: Mojo moment opportunities. It was the first one of camp.
Speaker 1: Both kickers missed that was that was a bad side.
Speaker 1: But I just a mojo moment was it's a rare
Speaker 1: run where I think it actually somehow was even funnier
Speaker 1: in print. But this was part of the quote was
Speaker 1: he says, it's a clip all they'll never forget because
Speaker 1: it's just a little different. It's obnoxious talking about all right,
Speaker 1: one go this segment is nose diving? All right, what
Speaker 1: else we got that? Smith? This one's fun, right, and
Speaker 1: stop being critical of the quotable segment. You know it's
Speaker 1: just not to breathe a little bit. We don't need
Speaker 1: to post mortem every clip. I'm atting sort of a
Speaker 1: game show element where each one gets a score. I
Speaker 1: often support failing segments verbally, you believe the segment is
Speaker 1: failing something. I think it's fair to say that the
Speaker 1: last time we did it it was a rollicking event,
Speaker 1: and it's gotten off to a slow start. There's still
Speaker 1: time to recover. I would counter that. A reason why
Speaker 1: maybe it's not off to ah as fast at start
Speaker 1: is you guys won't shut up about saying what's working
Speaker 1: and what's not working. Why don't we just let it roll? Well,
Speaker 1: you're also critiquing our critique. So all right, you said
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. No, I know Geno Smith is going to
Speaker 1: bring the goods. Let's see what he's got to say.
Speaker 1: I will go on record to say I have his back,
Speaker 1: no matter what. I have Drew locks back. You know,
Speaker 1: I want that to be known. And we're team mates,
Speaker 1: we're competing, uh, you know, we're in the same offense.
Speaker 1: And we're in the same room and we're gonna make
Speaker 1: each other better. Unbelievable. Okay, this is great. I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's a teammate. When it's a teammate, I think
Speaker 1: Gino Smith and I absolutely Greg believe every time Jew
Speaker 1: Locke takes a snap, Gino Smith is the guy rooting
Speaker 1: for him the hardest on that side. He was then
Speaker 1: loving there scrimmage on Friday, Drew Lock started ten for
Speaker 1: ten for ten for one and two touchdowns to start
Speaker 1: off against the Seahawks first team offense. Still not getting
Speaker 1: first team reps, but Drew Lock won that round. Was
Speaker 1: that hard for you to see early? It's early, but
Speaker 1: I think it opens the door. Gino didn't do that
Speaker 1: bad either. He scored, you know his he ran the
Speaker 1: offense and the numbers were fine, and he scored a
Speaker 1: couple of times. But Lock, I've got a nice day.
Speaker 1: All right. Let's let's break down that one. How was that? Mark?
Speaker 1: I thought that one that that had better production elements
Speaker 1: to it. Um, it had more going on for it
Speaker 1: in general in terms of its spirit. Good. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: If it's a fast paced segment. Absolutely what else we got?
Speaker 1: All Right? Let's go to Dan's jets, all right and
Speaker 1: discussing the first round pick. Sauce Gardner. That's a great
Speaker 1: talented you know, obviously long lean athlete. You can see him,
Speaker 1: um so, but he's he's a mod right now until
Speaker 1: he until he gets to the field. He's not sauce
Speaker 1: yet until until he plays and he balls out, then
Speaker 1: we'll call him sauce. But he's a model right now.
Speaker 1: Little that's carl Lawson, by the way that Okay, I
Speaker 1: go to earn the sauce grave digger just to make
Speaker 1: the segments say, yeah, I really give a little more
Speaker 1: started playing it and he's not. Sorry, Carlson. We're getting
Speaker 1: we're getting better another definitely another season. We're working through stuff.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good though, Lawson. Lawson's back and looking
Speaker 1: good too, so that's good. He's taken sort of the leadership.
Speaker 1: And also infamously, when we had Cavon Thibodeaux on the show,
Speaker 1: um last month, that's the right word for it, he said,
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do you. Essentially, I don't
Speaker 1: want anything to do with any rookie hazing. Nobody can
Speaker 1: stick me with a bill, Nobody could do anything to me,
Speaker 1: I like this more old school mentality where it's like,
Speaker 1: I know you're Sauce Gardener in your mind and that's
Speaker 1: what your chain says, but you're a mod until your
Speaker 1: sauce on the fell field. I'm with it. You can't
Speaker 1: just like walk in here with that nickname and not
Speaker 1: earn it. Like that's. By the way, our friend Cavan
Speaker 1: is um having a very nice training camp according to
Speaker 1: multiple reports. I don't want anyone to misconstrue um our
Speaker 1: infamous interview interview. Yeah, for the first the first time
Speaker 1: when when Gregg moved to l A and we had
Speaker 1: we had started our version of our podcast, The Debate Club.
Speaker 1: Greg's only piece of advice was, if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: why not do this professionally? Why not have it be
Speaker 1: actually like a podcast that sounds professional. Right, sounds like
Speaker 1: an obnoxious comment from a guy. So I don't feed
Speaker 1: Greg to listen to the Cavan interview necessarily. Oh really don't.
Speaker 1: Now you're beating yourself up too much. Well, no, I'm
Speaker 1: saying it was not. It's not sounded professional. I think
Speaker 1: back in the day it was it was more of
Speaker 1: a sound quality thing, right, I think I missed this interview,
Speaker 1: but anyway, my point being, uh that you know, it's
Speaker 1: okay for a rookie to have to earn it in
Speaker 1: our league. That doesn't mean you have to tape him
Speaker 1: to the goal post. What else we got, Let's check
Speaker 1: in with Russell Wilson on how hard he's gonna work
Speaker 1: in Denver. Oh boy, here we go. Well, I think,
Speaker 1: first of all, I think that, uh, you know, for me,
Speaker 1: I've always been about, you know, the extra work. You know,
Speaker 1: if somebody says you gotta do x x amount, not
Speaker 1: triple it everything, just triple it. You can understand why
Speaker 1: he's a guy that's a source of eye rolls within
Speaker 1: his own locker room at times. I talked to him
Speaker 1: at training camp when I was in Denver, and you know,
Speaker 1: I tried to get him to answer something about see Attle.
Speaker 1: Tried to like walk m into something UM and asked
Speaker 1: him like about the importance of a first start considering
Speaker 1: their first game is against Seattle. UM. But what he
Speaker 1: ended he didn't go for any of it at all.
Speaker 1: But then he ended up talking and saying that you
Speaker 1: have to play without emotion, which I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: but isn't everything isn't competing like emotional, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you can play without emotion. You can be passionate, but
Speaker 1: not emotional, And so that was his whole thing about
Speaker 1: Seattle was not playing with any emotion. Interesting. Our friend
Speaker 1: Henry Hutson, it's you know, spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: with him over the years, once in Brazil and then
Speaker 1: recently in the UK when Dangerous was over there promoting
Speaker 1: something or other. Just like very tight. Yeah, it's there
Speaker 1: are stories, not all of them we could share on
Speaker 1: the show. Anything else, Grape Digger. I have two more.
Speaker 1: One is Ron Rivera speaking on Carson Wentz accuracy issues,
Speaker 1: which we and already touched on. What else you got?
Speaker 1: I have Dan campbell Um comparing wide receiver Josh Reynolds
Speaker 1: to an insect. You know, this is a good way
Speaker 1: to close with hard knocks on the way, all right.
Speaker 1: He's a different athlete. He's there's a slipper, he's slippery man.
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's come the praying mantis. Um. He's a
Speaker 1: spider of death. He's just there's suthing about him, you know,
Speaker 1: so freaking serpent him. I love him, Yes, Dan Camantis,
Speaker 1: spider of Death. And then he goes all the way
Speaker 1: to like a biblical level serpent bent. We'll be on
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, I would imagine, I hope. So, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like not what a Praying Mantis is like, right, Um,
Speaker 1: he's not the first thing speaking of you know, we
Speaker 1: spoke about the movie No Praying Mantis with a crucial roule.
Speaker 1: This is not giving anything away, but a crucial role
Speaker 1: in the movie. No speaking big summer for Praying Mantis.
Speaker 1: It is. It popped a big Manti season. Um, Colleen
Speaker 1: and I Hard Knocks podcast rolls out tomorrow night, so
Speaker 1: look for that in the feed. Also, this particular program,
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast is now in addition to
Speaker 1: being on YouTube, which I think people knew but it is,
Speaker 1: we're also now on the NFL app. The NFL channel was,
Speaker 1: which is a new thing that's whatever wherever on your device,
Speaker 1: I guess, type in NFL channel and you can come
Speaker 1: up maybe a flashier name for that. Well, there's NFL
Speaker 1: Network and NFL Channel and some people probably call NFL
Speaker 1: Networks on your TV at home the little NFL app
Speaker 1: it's right there. Yeah, And if you have the NFL
Speaker 1: app on your phone, you just go to the top
Speaker 1: right menu, and then it can pull up like there's
Speaker 1: NFL Network, and then under that there's NFL channel right YouTube.
Speaker 1: I mean, famously, there's like a thirty seconds of the
Speaker 1: video rolling after we finished that people find see the
Speaker 1: real check Mark throwing off his head set and running out.
Speaker 1: Now that I think about it, me critiquing the name
Speaker 1: of the channel probably not going over very well with
Speaker 1: executives inside the building. Maybell Curtail that commented, of course,
Speaker 1: we're also now on NFL Plus, which is the new
Speaker 1: UM streaming service rolled out by NFL and UM that's
Speaker 1: also where you can get game passed. I thought it's
Speaker 1: a sensational product. Yeah, you go, subscription start at a month.
Speaker 1: Go to plus dot dot com. Now, all right, Connie,
Speaker 1: you've said it all. I will see you tomorrow. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Podcast rolling out. Thank you to everybody for listening.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Wednesday with another show. Until then,
Speaker 1: he the call s