Speaker 1: So we're in the studio today and we thought it
Speaker 1: would be fun to call some of the people back
Speaker 1: who have called us and left us great voicemails. And
Speaker 1: I've got somebody here with me, a very special guest.
Speaker 1: His name is Sweet Kevin. Yo. Sweet Kevin is Kevin Shephard,
Speaker 1: our associate producer. He's the guy who responds to your
Speaker 1: tweets or Instagram messages. He's also in charge of the
Speaker 1: voicemails you leave us we call bananas. The first message
Speaker 1: he's pulled is one you heard in the last Bonus
Speaker 1: episode from someone we've come to call parking lot. Okay,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? This is such a good podcast that
Speaker 1: I had to stop driving. I'm on episode six. It's
Speaker 1: in a grocery store parking lot, like just sitting here
Speaker 1: listening because I'm so enthralled. This is the best podcast. Dope.
Speaker 1: Let's call her. Hello. Hey, this is Io from the
Speaker 1: Ballot of Billy Balls. Okay, wait a minute, I was listen.
Speaker 1: This is some crazy Okay, what's up? Parking lot? Where
Speaker 1: is this? Uh? The grocery store parking lot that I
Speaker 1: now imagine you to like pay rent in. I am
Speaker 1: in a public's grocery store, parking lot. Um what town
Speaker 1: with city with state? Country? Oh oh oh like outer space. No,
Speaker 1: it might as well be to you Boone, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: where Appalachian State University is. Wow, I'm from the city.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I left home when I was
Speaker 1: like fifteen and a half and I worked to kitchens.
Speaker 1: I come from four generations of bakers, you know. I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of my youth being, you know, just
Speaker 1: on the streets and like living that kind of life.
Speaker 1: So that was like the biggest thing was your podcast
Speaker 1: is I was like, as your mom, not to just
Speaker 1: kind of bust in, but I just want to get
Speaker 1: it out. As your mom was like discussing the streets
Speaker 1: and she was saying the words, I was like, fuck yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, it is volumptuous, it is sticky, it
Speaker 1: is sweaty. That's the beauty of it. Like everyone else
Speaker 1: is a voyor to what she's saying. But for those
Speaker 1: of us that have lived in those moments, it's like
Speaker 1: reminiscing today. I talked with some of you about the
Speaker 1: connection you felt to the show, and later you'll hear
Speaker 1: from some other characters you've gotten to know well from Crimetown.
Speaker 1: I'm Io's till it right, and this is another special
Speaker 1: bonus episode of the Ballot of Billy ball Feel. Hey, Cheetah,
Speaker 1: it's Io. How are you good? How are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna throw it off. Sorry, watch the
Speaker 1: South Park Ron. I do have one more question, though,
Speaker 1: How do you think we should refer to you because
Speaker 1: you're not our lawyer? Law outlaw, higher gun the law Linger.
Speaker 1: Pretty much anything works great? Hello, Hello, Yes, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is Io, Rebecca Wright's kid. Wow, I can't believe you're
Speaker 1: called epilogue two. I'll call you back. Get my phone
Speaker 1: voice ready. Let's see. We've got three new voicemails since
Speaker 1: we started this. Oh wow, do you want to um?
Speaker 1: What about that guy Dom? Dom? Yeah? I liked this
Speaker 1: voicemail when it came out a lot. Yeah, that's sweet.
Speaker 1: We actually featured that. It was featured in the credits
Speaker 1: of chapter four. To be exact. Hey, this is Dom
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. I just wanted to say that this
Speaker 1: podcast is making me feel all kinds of stuff, specifically
Speaker 1: about my friend Gregory Capri, an amazing soul who got
Speaker 1: taken too young. And I think of Billy and Gregory
Speaker 1: are somewhere special beginning. Can we call him? Call him?
Speaker 1: Yeah you do? Hey, Dom, this is uh I, the
Speaker 1: host of the Ballad of Billy Balls. Oh what's up, Hey?
Speaker 1: I heard that I got featured. That was freaking crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did. We really liked your voicemail. Thank you
Speaker 1: for calling in and sharing that with us. I wanted
Speaker 1: to call you back and talk to you a little
Speaker 1: bit more about Gregory. Yeah, let's do it. I'm actually
Speaker 1: walking with my mom too. Hi. Mom. I know that
Speaker 1: we're both really connected to our mom. She's going through
Speaker 1: crazy times right now too. She's like got like stage
Speaker 1: four cancer and it's just kind of crazy, Like life
Speaker 1: is wild. So I'm really sorry to hear that. Tell
Speaker 1: her I said hello. And also, if you want to
Speaker 1: hang out with her and don't want to talk to
Speaker 1: us about this, you totally don't have to. Oh let's good.
Speaker 1: We're just enjoying a walk together. So this is perfect timing. Well,
Speaker 1: who was Gregory to you? So? Greg was a friend.
Speaker 1: We were both born like fairly close to one another
Speaker 1: and small towns in Oregon, and so we have like
Speaker 1: some kind of weird kinds of spirit. We used to
Speaker 1: have a bunch of uh, you know concerts and stuff
Speaker 1: at our house in the basement, you know, stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and he would just come through and supply the party.
Speaker 1: You know. So he just had like a fire under him,
Speaker 1: like he you know, he'd go up to Alaska and
Speaker 1: fish and like do a super dangerous job to get
Speaker 1: money and then would just do whatever else he wanted
Speaker 1: for the rest of those months. Like he was just
Speaker 1: a wild man. But you know, you hang out with
Speaker 1: him and talked to him, and he was just like
Speaker 1: a lover, you know, just kind of reminded me like
Speaker 1: how Billy was. Just everyone talks about how charismatic he was,
Speaker 1: about how talents he was. Like that was like Greg,
Speaker 1: what ended up happening to him. He got busted on
Speaker 1: Saint Patty's Day in his car with like twenty four
Speaker 1: vials of ascid as something crazy. We just started to
Speaker 1: drift because like he got arrested and I didn't know
Speaker 1: what was going on with him, and then I knew
Speaker 1: he got out, and I think that he just got
Speaker 1: like super an academy and I think he was just
Speaker 1: using one night with somebody and just indeed and it
Speaker 1: was just like terrible, you know, like it was a
Speaker 1: huge shock to all of us, even the people that
Speaker 1: knew him, like thought that he was able to understand
Speaker 1: his limits in that regard. But I mean he was
Speaker 1: just shot out of the cannon. So that was Greg.
Speaker 1: And I mean it really hit me though, because, like
Speaker 1: even now, it's like my desire to get fucked up
Speaker 1: and be crazy. He kind of died with Greg. You know.
Speaker 1: I was just like, what's the point if Greg's not around?
Speaker 1: You know, do you think there's an afterlife down and
Speaker 1: you think that Greg and Billy are hanging out somewhere
Speaker 1: ripping the world apart. I think they're both writing like
Speaker 1: dragon like Game of Throne style somewhere, just like wrecking zombies,
Speaker 1: playing guitar, like that dude strapped to that monster truck
Speaker 1: in Mad Max, you know, just like craziest scene you've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Who else is there with them? Shit, I'm
Speaker 1: sure Jane's Choplin's there, maybe George Herbert Walker, but but
Speaker 1: hopefully it's a good ratio party. There's not too many dudes,
Speaker 1: you know. Well, thank you, Tom, I really appreciate it. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: say hi to my mom. Her name is Leslie Chris Chris. Hi,
Speaker 1: Leslie Chris. He's also a wild woman, and she had
Speaker 1: some wild time to recommend day. Best wishes to Leslie
Speaker 1: Chris for good healing and health. Thank you, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you so now by unbelievable. Well that
Speaker 1: was beautiful. Thanks again, Dom. What's next week? Kevin? H
Speaker 1: Let me go to this one right here. Your podcast
Speaker 1: has gotten me thinking about the disappearance of my mom,
Speaker 1: who disappeared in twenty sixteen. M it's a really strange thing. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I trying to figure out how to Yeah, I don't know, huh,
Speaker 1: just not sure how to talk about all right. So
Speaker 1: my name is Brian Safer. Thank you. I was out
Speaker 1: to lunch when that call came in, and I kind
Speaker 1: of just listened to them as they come and I
Speaker 1: stopped and cried for a couple of minutes, just like
Speaker 1: the you can't even get the kid. Hello, Hey, Brian,
Speaker 1: this is Io from the Ballad of Billy Balls. Yes,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing okay? Is it okay that
Speaker 1: I'm calling you back? Yes, it's okay that you're calling
Speaker 1: you back. I thought I had my ship together, and
Speaker 1: just saying that on that voicemail was really hard. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It was just really a lot harder than I thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it makes perfect sense to all of us. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: do you want to tell tell me what happened. Well,
Speaker 1: my family all went up to Lake Alpine a camping trip,
Speaker 1: and my mom wanted to go for a walk down
Speaker 1: to the lake. So my dad walked with her about
Speaker 1: halfway down and then you know, walked back to the
Speaker 1: campsite and then never heard from her again. They did
Speaker 1: a sonar to the lake. All they found was some
Speaker 1: logs and whatnot. They didn't find a scrap of clothing
Speaker 1: or object that belonged to her, and they scanned the
Speaker 1: whole area. Yeah, like miles and miles. How long did
Speaker 1: the search gone. It went on for about two weeks.
Speaker 1: They expended as much resources as they could, and they
Speaker 1: got to the point where they couldn't expend any more resources.
Speaker 1: At the time, at least, it was a large search
Speaker 1: and rescue in California state history. Wow. Really, they found
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. She just disappeared, She vanished. Do you mind
Speaker 1: if I ask did your mom have any history of
Speaker 1: any kind of mental illness or anything going on? Well,
Speaker 1: she was hiding a lot of things. What we had
Speaker 1: figured out is she had been hiding a lot of
Speaker 1: beginning stages of either dementia or what has it done
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's Alzheimer's. Yeah, she didn't want to admit that stuff.
Speaker 1: You don't want to admit that you're getting older, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard. So do you have a theory, Brian,
Speaker 1: of what happened? I think that probably her whatever she
Speaker 1: was going through, whether it be dementia or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: was way worse. Yeah, and she was in a place
Speaker 1: that she didn't really recognize. So my faught is someone
Speaker 1: offered to give her a ride. Yeah, and she got
Speaker 1: confused and she may have gotten a car with someone
Speaker 1: that had not necessarily good intentions. Yeah. What was her name,
Speaker 1: Rosalind Saxon Mayer, Rosalind Saxon Meyer. Yeah. How have you
Speaker 1: made peace with this, Brian? Or have you? I went
Speaker 1: through therapy for like for over two years. Before that,
Speaker 1: I had two friends get basically murdered. I was being
Speaker 1: evicted from my home. I had a cancer scare that
Speaker 1: turned out to not be cancered, thankfully, And then I
Speaker 1: had this and I went in to go see my
Speaker 1: doctor and I was telling her. She asked me how
Speaker 1: I was doing, and I told her everything is She went,
Speaker 1: do you get a therapist? Like, yeah, that could be
Speaker 1: a good thing, I think. So. You listen to some
Speaker 1: people tell their stories about their parents dying, and they're
Speaker 1: preparing for their parent to die. I didn't get to
Speaker 1: prepare for my parent to die. My parents vanished. I've
Speaker 1: always wondered how to really properly tell the story. It was.
Speaker 1: It's hard to speak it into that voicemail. It was
Speaker 1: very hard to find those words at that point in time.
Speaker 1: And I thank you for listening. If I could say
Speaker 1: anything to you after hearing your story and speaking to
Speaker 1: you a little bit, is like if me opening up
Speaker 1: impacted you, remember that as you go through the world
Speaker 1: and the power of you opening up, because that will
Speaker 1: open things up for other people too, And your story
Speaker 1: is really powerful and we'll be helpful to someone else.
Speaker 1: So keep finding your words. Man. Thank you all right, Brian,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for talking to us and sharing
Speaker 1: your story. Have a beautiful day, you too, have a
Speaker 1: wonderful day. Bye bye. Coming up, we check in with
Speaker 1: some old friends. That's after the break. Hello, Hi, this
Speaker 1: is Austin. It's Austin, Austin the Ballad of Billy Balls Austin.
Speaker 1: This is someone we called Natasha in the show. Oh hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Hi? You met her in chapter four.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious how you're feeling after listening to the season.
Speaker 1: I think you guys did in the marvelous job. I
Speaker 1: loved every second of an except it still an emotionally
Speaker 1: training and a very upsetting story, and I feel very
Speaker 1: sorry for Rebecca. Did it change what you think happened
Speaker 1: to Billy or why you think he was shot? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, after listening to Ron, that really was the
Speaker 1: turning point for me, because I actually do believe Ron
Speaker 1: was very serious and genuine Ron the undercover cop. I
Speaker 1: really don't think he was lying, So I think all
Speaker 1: that's true. And he was a drug dealer and he
Speaker 1: definitely dealt in heroin because he knew where to get it.
Speaker 1: And the trigger happy stuff that happens with a lot
Speaker 1: of testosterone with guns involved in fear, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's really too bad, and I really do think Ron
Speaker 1: is remorseful that I actually shot and fell them. How
Speaker 1: did you feel about being involved in this? I wanted
Speaker 1: to make a contribution. I love the show. I think
Speaker 1: you did a fabulous job. I think it should make
Speaker 1: a good movie. I hope you put me in it
Speaker 1: to it. I will reveal who I really am in
Speaker 1: that case and the music that came out of that place.
Speaker 1: I wish you would use a little piece of my
Speaker 1: music from that time. Okay, all right, I'll throw it
Speaker 1: consider that. I'll throw in a piece of music right here.
Speaker 1: You're just a bad boy. What can you give me?
Speaker 1: You're just a bad boy. The lean and lanky. You're
Speaker 1: just a bad boy. You're just a bad bad boy.
Speaker 1: Didn't get you? Well? Good luck with everything, and thank
Speaker 1: you for talking with me. Yeah, and I hope you
Speaker 1: stay in touch. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You can tell me
Speaker 1: who might want into my podcast. Um, so are you
Speaker 1: gonna do a movie? You think you're gonna going? Hello?
Speaker 1: Hiy Cheetah, Yeah, Hey, hey Cheetah. This is Austin. This
Speaker 1: is Cheetah, Chrome Billy's close friend and fellow musician. Have
Speaker 1: you had a chance to listen to the show. I
Speaker 1: listen a part of it. I didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to listen to all. I don't know. Do you want
Speaker 1: to know what we found? Yeah? No, I was Elvin?
Speaker 1: Would your fine? Okay? So we um found the police
Speaker 1: report and the police report said it had the story
Speaker 1: from the undercover cop. Austin tells Cheetah about the police
Speaker 1: report and that we talked with the undercover cop. He
Speaker 1: said that Billy pulled a gun on him while he
Speaker 1: was trying to buy heroin from him and cocked it
Speaker 1: and that's why he shot Billy. I don't find Billy
Speaker 1: would have never pulled a fucking gun. That's my first
Speaker 1: reaction to that. Billy was a musician. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: some street criminal. Yeah, you know, yeah, our cops little shit.
Speaker 1: No Billy. I don't buy it once. Second, when Billie
Speaker 1: never sold heroin to any of us, these old pills
Speaker 1: to you know, volumes and fucking second halls and shit
Speaker 1: like that. Speed, I don't buy that. I don't buy
Speaker 1: it at all. Unless he was into something deeper than
Speaker 1: I know about. Yeah, and there is that chance. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry to tell you the story. I
Speaker 1: know it sounds it's probably upsetting. Man. I'm up saying, shit,
Speaker 1: he was a good friend. Yeah. How many people do
Speaker 1: you find at midnight a roller skates and snow show,
Speaker 1: little snug in a blue jumpsuit, in a blue jumpsuit. Yes,
Speaker 1: Tima's roller skate. Did he roller skate everywhere? We've heard
Speaker 1: a couple of times, yes, any body else roller escape? No?
Speaker 1: And he wrote great songs. You maybe just to win.
Speaker 1: There's just much too much for you. I was awesome guy,
Speaker 1: and I mean what happened just fuck? Yeah, I'm sorry. God,
Speaker 1: that's okay, man, because it is closure one. I mean,
Speaker 1: getting the fucking cop on the phones boss, far as
Speaker 1: you can get it. Yeah, that's how we feel. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for talking with me. Yeah, yeah, thanks all right,
Speaker 1: well thanks, thank hello Boston, it's ub How are you man?
Speaker 1: And of course we had to talk with the law
Speaker 1: slinger ron Kuby. Did you listen to the final episode? Yes,
Speaker 1: of course I did, deeply sad, deeply moving, realizing that
Speaker 1: in the guise of a true crime story, it was
Speaker 1: really very much a love story between mom and her son. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, it illustrated something that we don't need
Speaker 1: much illustration of these days, which is the power of
Speaker 1: false narrative to affect people's lives and behaviors, and their
Speaker 1: persistent refusal and unwillingness to examine actual facts that could
Speaker 1: contradict that narrative or add a way of nuance to
Speaker 1: that narrative, and you know, it made me feel really
Speaker 1: bad for Rebecca, who kind of is now and has
Speaker 1: kind of always been a child who needed taken care of.
Speaker 1: And I think different people played that role in her life.
Speaker 1: I think Io ended up playing that role. And to
Speaker 1: be self referential to it, you know what what you
Speaker 1: guys called it was just like, Okay, you want to
Speaker 1: do an interview or you want to ask me some
Speaker 1: questions about this aspect of policing or whatever. Fine, Fine,
Speaker 1: And then you know the level of depth and discussion
Speaker 1: and your charm and Io's charm and everything. The two
Speaker 1: of you were really serious about this project and we're
Speaker 1: really seriously trying to get the documents that would tell
Speaker 1: a version of the story that it had not been told.
Speaker 1: And you went about it in all the role long
Speaker 1: way now you did. I mean, it's not your fault,
Speaker 1: your your life people, your lawyers. Yeah, and you talk
Speaker 1: to it all the wrong people who gave you all
Speaker 1: the wrong answers. And this was k of those things
Speaker 1: like I know, if I spend two hours on this,
Speaker 1: I can do this. And it made a real difference
Speaker 1: in how the story got told and what the story
Speaker 1: really was and I'm just I'm very happy I did that.
Speaker 1: Is there any advice for somebody who is wanting to
Speaker 1: do a kind of foil request like we did if
Speaker 1: they don't have a lawyer involved? The answer is find
Speaker 1: a lawyer, don't call me or you know what, I've
Speaker 1: got an idea. They should like email or call you
Speaker 1: and you just spend a mc comfy to watch set. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's true. Maybe we can put this make public what
Speaker 1: you put in for us. Sure, we're going to do
Speaker 1: just that. We'll put Ron's full foil request on our
Speaker 1: social media pages. That's so nice of you. We can't
Speaker 1: thank you enough. Sure you can't. Trying to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to thank me or not? Yeah, okay, thanks Ryan.
Speaker 1: I just realized I should also. I have it on
Speaker 1: Do not Disturb and go straight to voice. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: back in the studio with sweet Kevin. This is a
Speaker 1: funny one. It's funny, but then it gets real. Oh,
Speaker 1: we've got one last person to call back. You got
Speaker 1: k Balls here, a ka Ralph Tillman, a K cooking Kimball.
Speaker 1: I've been in a rock and roll business currently drive
Speaker 1: a rock and roll bus in Your podcast has filled
Speaker 1: many many miles of joy. I've laughed, I've cried, question
Speaker 1: my owd fucking reality. Keep up the good work party home.
Speaker 1: That message was awesome, but then we got another message
Speaker 1: once again, K Balls, And I believe this podcast made
Speaker 1: me gonna change my life. When I get home, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna quit rock and roll business and spend some time
Speaker 1: with my daughter before she is grown up at jug forever.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, call K balls right now, we're calling K balls. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: is this K Balls? It is K Balls, K Balls.
Speaker 1: This is I am. I'm the host of the Ballot
Speaker 1: of Billy Bass. Wow. How are you. I have thoroughly
Speaker 1: enjoyed your program, Thanks man, thank you. Where are you?
Speaker 1: I'm in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Cool I drive to the
Speaker 1: Marshall Checker Band and you want the guys called me
Speaker 1: kay Ball. I like cooking Kimball too. That's another one
Speaker 1: of your nicknames, Cooking Kimball. Ralph Tillman, I got a
Speaker 1: whole buck you eliot said you never use your real
Speaker 1: name out on the road, So Ralph Tillman's not your
Speaker 1: real name either. No Kimball, Hi, Kimball. It's a pleasure
Speaker 1: to make your acquaintance. We all really loved your voicemail.
Speaker 1: When I'm just sitting there listening to shit a baby
Speaker 1: and it was me, I said, just that get good.
Speaker 1: But hey, I have a question for you. Go for it.
Speaker 1: Your second voicemail, you said, I'm gonna go home and
Speaker 1: quit the rock and roll business and spend some time
Speaker 1: with my daughter. What's that all about. Well, I've been
Speaker 1: on the road all these years. When you're gone two
Speaker 1: hundred days a year, you're gone, and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you missed some things. So like the first formative years
Speaker 1: seven years of her life, I was there, and then
Speaker 1: her mother and I just split up, and then I've
Speaker 1: just been on the road ever since. My daughter's a senior,
Speaker 1: and so I said fuck it and came straight home
Speaker 1: and I'm at home. No shit, no shit. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to presume that that's because you listen to our podcast.
Speaker 1: Well you sort of, because you know, as a driver,
Speaker 1: you know I'm up all night, you know, self medicated,
Speaker 1: you know how it goes and all that shit. So
Speaker 1: I just got really emotional listening to y'all thing. That's it.
Speaker 1: Damn you found Amanda. And when you found Amanda, you
Speaker 1: know you just think it just look at the life
Speaker 1: that she had to live. You know, it's crazy, and
Speaker 1: you know life's too fucking short to just let it
Speaker 1: just fly on by you, you know. Yeah, And I've
Speaker 1: got a farm and all the things that you want
Speaker 1: on a life except happiness, oh that little thing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it did influence me to just say fuck it,
Speaker 1: and I did. That's amazing, Cables, what's your what's your
Speaker 1: daughter like? She is a sack of hell. She's just
Speaker 1: the best kid, She's honest. I don't know how that's possible. Well,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with her? Now that you're home?
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just hang out with her. Um, take
Speaker 1: my daughter to the beach for grad week, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna do dinner tonight and hopefully you can get your
Speaker 1: ash from here tomorrow. Help me with this garden. We
Speaker 1: got stuff to do. But you know how seventeen year
Speaker 1: old girls are. Oh, you're in for it, man, Kimball.
Speaker 1: It's been a real pleasure speaking to you. Thank you
Speaker 1: for picking up and and thank you for calling us
Speaker 1: in the first place. And I'm really proud of you. Man.
Speaker 1: If I'm allowed to be, I'll tell you what. Keep
Speaker 1: up the good work kids, all right, take care. If
Speaker 1: you guys drink moonshine, I'll send you some great man
Speaker 1: all right. Don appreciate the call. It means so much, Jimmy, Hello,
Speaker 1: ky Balls here, I'm just laying in bed here. I've
Speaker 1: been at the fucking beach with bunch of senior girls
Speaker 1: that have graduated. Oh God gives on the un party anymore?
Speaker 1: Kate Balls, k Balls, wherever you are. Party on Crimetown
Speaker 1: is Zach Stewart Pontier and Mark Smirling. The Ballad of
Speaker 1: Billy Balls is hosted by me Io till It Write
Speaker 1: and made in partnership with Kaden's thirteen. You can find
Speaker 1: me on the Internet and Io loves you on everything.
Speaker 1: I love it when you say hello. And if you
Speaker 1: want to know more about my story, you can pick
Speaker 1: up my memoir Darling Days. It's inaudible too. If you'd
Speaker 1: like to leave us your own voicemail, please do you
Speaker 1: never know when we'll be done, give us a call
Speaker 1: at five to seven zero three nine two nine six
Speaker 1: six zero. This episode was produced by me, Kevin Shepard,
Speaker 1: and Ryan Swikert. Our senior producer is Austin Mitchell, editing
Speaker 1: by Zach Stewart Pontier and Mark Smerling. This episode was
Speaker 1: mixed by Sam Baer, music by Kenny Quciak. Our title
Speaker 1: track is Dark Allies by Light Asylum. Special thanks to
Speaker 1: David Williams at Melrose Music and Palm Springs for all
Speaker 1: your help this season. Thanks to Daniella Ariah Rachel, Lee Wright,
Speaker 1: Emily Wiedemann, Green Card Pictures, Alessandro Santoro, Bill Clegg, Cassie Evashevsky,
Speaker 1: Ben Davis, Orn Rosenbaum, and the team at Caden's thirteen,
Speaker 1: And of course, as always, my Mom, without whom none
Speaker 1: of this would be possible and fe