Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Which producers love life will
Speaker 1: they expose? Welcome to another episode of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal, sitty in for our host
Speaker 1: danenhanceas we're missing him today, but we are lucky to
Speaker 1: have a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler of course,
Speaker 1: and the electric Patchrick clay bonn Electric. Yes, let's get it.
Speaker 1: I'm all about energy. Sean was chining us for our energy.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm caffeinated, I'm ready to go right Um,
Speaker 1: Sean Kelly city in one more show here in the
Speaker 1: producer chair for for Graver. I guess if we're getting
Speaker 1: into a producer's love life, you're up next. So what's
Speaker 1: going on? There's nothing going on on that front that
Speaker 1: you can expose, so not with anyone. Curtly single ready
Speaker 1: to mingle. You know what's up? And um, you know,
Speaker 1: just living my life every day to time. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: we've hit the allotted Sean time for the day of
Speaker 1: the camera like went right to him. It's just yeah,
Speaker 1: uh there there will be a fun Easter egg though
Speaker 1: for the die hearts. At the end of the way,
Speaker 1: Sean Kelly really bringing the energy, getting us ready. We
Speaker 1: don't have to manufacture energy preseason week when we we don't.
Speaker 1: We keep it real here at the Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: like it's fun to have football back. There are things
Speaker 1: to take away. We're gonna do a segment things we
Speaker 1: actually believe in from the preseas, but we also don't
Speaker 1: need to make it more than what it is. Like
Speaker 1: we're veteran. Well, I you know, I will will the
Speaker 1: Easter egg will come. But I'll say it in a
Speaker 1: capsule that like it was like, hey, Mark, get your
Speaker 1: energy up. It's like I will be who I am
Speaker 1: when the light goes on. You're gonna get what you need.
Speaker 1: But I I don't need to raise my voice or
Speaker 1: you know, swing pom poms around the room in a
Speaker 1: false manner. I'm gonna be genuine. But but it's just
Speaker 1: you need to treat each person in But after a
Speaker 1: thousand plus shows, wherever we're at, uh, we know Mark
Speaker 1: delivers either they say at the preseason you want to
Speaker 1: see who transfers it from practice to the game. Who,
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers said, there's some players that actually only
Speaker 1: show up when the lights are on. That's Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: that that's exactly right. I think in practice, my practice
Speaker 1: is sometimes more internal and then the lights and then
Speaker 1: the then the show starts and I will speak to
Speaker 1: you bits like I'm not going to come in like
Speaker 1: you know, hey, check out my weekend. It's like I
Speaker 1: don't need to. I don't. I was like that as
Speaker 1: a tennis player, I couldn't. I couldn't practice. It just
Speaker 1: didn't look good. It wasn't it didn't bring it. But
Speaker 1: you know, the matches, that's ultimately what you're practice for, right.
Speaker 1: There are some coaches where you get there. I like
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen was talking about like a certain player on
Speaker 1: his team. Um, I believe it was Peyton Turner kind
Speaker 1: of having good practice and he was like, and the
Speaker 1: reporters are really going crazy with it. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's good, but like the games do matter, especially
Speaker 1: when because the games are important that the ultimately matters.
Speaker 1: You're not sure if everybody else is checking it down
Speaker 1: for practice as well. And then there's that one guy
Speaker 1: who's like banan as for practice hard. Yeah, uh, Claiborn
Speaker 1: is getting some practice in. He uh taped a Fantasy
Speaker 1: Live earlier today, so he's doing double duty. We appreciate
Speaker 1: him sitting in UM on multiple shows. Hopefully we'll be
Speaker 1: seeing Patrick claibonn and Fantasy Live throughout the season. I
Speaker 1: think we will. But in the meantime, when can we
Speaker 1: see that Fantasy Live show you just tape? It's got
Speaker 1: to be Actually, what is it, Jack Special? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a preseason actually our first time doing preseason stuff
Speaker 1: live on the network. That's gonna air live on the network.
Speaker 1: So we've got that tonight and we've also got Monday
Speaker 1: Night and UM. So yeah. In message to Cuddley executives
Speaker 1: in their little offices, like keep him on the show
Speaker 1: well and also keep pounding out this. Uh, preseason is
Speaker 1: Fantasy time. This is this is it this. I think
Speaker 1: if you listen to the show, you'll you'll get a
Speaker 1: lot of good Fantasy nuggets. We will have the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Spectacular coming up next week and we're working on a
Speaker 1: lot of great guests, so we're excited for that. But
Speaker 1: before we do that, let's do some news. Don't know more.
Speaker 1: Once they get in there, were optimistic, but he's not
Speaker 1: out of the woods until they get in there and
Speaker 1: make the decision. That was Robert Salah talking about his quarterback,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Uh. Fortunately for Zach Wilson, if you want
Speaker 1: to look at it this way, the worst fears don't
Speaker 1: appear to have happened with his knee injury that he
Speaker 1: suffered on Friday night. The initial estimates are are two
Speaker 1: to four weeks and a bone bruise. But just a
Speaker 1: little bit of caution. There is a surgery on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and there's some talk they're not really sure what the
Speaker 1: prognosis is gonna be until they get in the knee.
Speaker 1: We've we've kind of seen it's dangerous to be a
Speaker 1: Twitter doctor out in these streets. Don't be saying someone
Speaker 1: tours a c l early or with McKay beckt in
Speaker 1: the reverse, don't need to say that a guy is
Speaker 1: okay early. We won't know for sure until Tuesday. But thankfully, Mark,
Speaker 1: it was a relatively news free preseason week one, and
Speaker 1: that I was thinking about it this morning. There's actually
Speaker 1: not that much to hold on too. And that's good
Speaker 1: because almost all preseason news is bad news. It's injury news,
Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson was really the only major one from
Speaker 1: the weekend. Well, it's all it's a we were in
Speaker 1: a different world than five years ago. When you in
Speaker 1: this first preseason game, you get a bunch of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: out there, and more disaster would strike. I mean there
Speaker 1: was a dark period there for Jets fans where it
Speaker 1: looked like you lost McKay Beckton last week and now
Speaker 1: you've lost Zach Wilson. So the update where it was
Speaker 1: less uh, you know, severe, that is helpful. But it's
Speaker 1: one quarterback that whether or not he can appear in
Speaker 1: a game again, needs reps for his players, needs reps
Speaker 1: on the practice field. It's just not the There's there's
Speaker 1: more pressure on Zach Wilson than almost any other second
Speaker 1: year passer because it's like if the Jets are set
Speaker 1: up to really make a big leap, if Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: does X, Y or Z and we are, there is
Speaker 1: no real proof that he's going to do that on
Speaker 1: the field. I feel like there's a lot of propping
Speaker 1: him up because we want him to, but there's no
Speaker 1: proof that that's gonna happen. And this is he had
Speaker 1: a right knee injury, and Mark's just Dan would agree.
Speaker 1: I think that it's like we haven't seen it on
Speaker 1: the field at this point. It's it's a it's a projection,
Speaker 1: but the Jets have a weird energy around them. I
Speaker 1: don't love this for them at all. And it's it's
Speaker 1: a setback for Zack Wilson, but it wouldn't be. It
Speaker 1: does tell us there's a chance we're not gonna watching
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and regular season games, which is important to humanity. Yes,
Speaker 1: important to anybody who watches football and would like and
Speaker 1: would like to enjoy it. And honestly, you saw the
Speaker 1: reactions coming in because Wilson goes down, and I think
Speaker 1: the generational trauma of Jets fans was like, Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's it, it's done, it's over. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: dice his knee up, but it's better than the news
Speaker 1: of having to do a full knee reconstruction. But speaking
Speaker 1: on behalf of everybody who's had their minis guy operated
Speaker 1: on and or removed, it can't be tricky, And like
Speaker 1: Robert Sala said, they don't know what it's going to
Speaker 1: be like until they get in there with the arthroscope
Speaker 1: and decide how much they're going to take out, how
Speaker 1: how long the recovery is going to be. But at
Speaker 1: least at least they're not harvesting parts of his body
Speaker 1: and moving it to another part of his body. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we will get Zack Wilson back at some point. And
Speaker 1: as you said, he shout off to Joe Flacco. A
Speaker 1: great moment, great season, great championship in two. It's not
Speaker 1: something that we need. It's just not He has a
Speaker 1: decent chance though, to start Week one. I feel like
Speaker 1: Joe flac because Robert Sala likes Joe Flacco. He said
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, like people are sleeping on
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. He's a starter in this league. When right
Speaker 1: when he thought, when I thought maybe Zach Wilson is
Speaker 1: gonna miss the season, you kind of thought, Okay, they're
Speaker 1: gonna go get Jimmy Garoppolo. With it being two to
Speaker 1: four weeks, then you just keep Joe. Can I tell
Speaker 1: you what's spicy? Though? At least I don't want to
Speaker 1: see Joe Flacco for an extended period of time. But
Speaker 1: they open at home against the Baltimore Ravens. Well, it's
Speaker 1: spicy for Ravens fans I had. I don't hate that
Speaker 1: motivated Joe Flacco. Here's here's the thing, though, Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: was the best Jets quarterback. This year was about Mike
Speaker 1: White had a game. He had a game and then
Speaker 1: it went sour, right, But I am a little I'm
Speaker 1: worried about Zack Wilson. I actually think there was some
Speaker 1: real takeaways from this beyond Okay, he's just gonna miss
Speaker 1: two to fo. He needs to work, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: and in six dropbacks he had to disastrous plays and
Speaker 1: like that. I think you don't want to pile onto
Speaker 1: a guy who got hurt. But I think it's worth
Speaker 1: saying that his first throw throws it right to Kaiser White.
Speaker 1: The Eagles linebacker telegraphs it. The camera goes to Robert
Speaker 1: Salah and you can see him mouthing on the sideline.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he threw that. That that's Wilson's first throw.
Speaker 1: The injury occurred on to play where it was third
Speaker 1: and long, and you saw this a lot. Was Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson last year held onto the ball forever, could have
Speaker 1: just ran out of bounds instead of running out of
Speaker 1: bounds on third and long, by the way, and he
Speaker 1: had no chance to pick up the first down. He
Speaker 1: didn't pick up the first down. He came up about
Speaker 1: seven yards short. He tries to joke a guy and
Speaker 1: that's how the injury happens. And that's absolutely a play
Speaker 1: that I think a veteran quarterback or a smarter young
Speaker 1: quarterback isn't gonna make. Like he's learning this lesson the
Speaker 1: hard way, but in a very short time like that,
Speaker 1: that preseason excitement that he's like making some progress like
Speaker 1: that was a rough start, and at some point you
Speaker 1: do have to protect yourself. And we saw Marcus Mariotto
Speaker 1: the first play of the game, for some reason, in
Speaker 1: a similar situation, instead of running back out of bounds,
Speaker 1: cuts it back inside and takes a hit, and it's like, guys,
Speaker 1: it's it's week one of the preseason. I know you
Speaker 1: would like to get a first down. I know you
Speaker 1: would like to to make plays, especially with Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: and all of this conversation about his long term viability
Speaker 1: and wanting to make a play, But you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to do it all on one play. I
Speaker 1: think because he made that interception, it was like my
Speaker 1: first drive went poorly, my second drive is about to
Speaker 1: go poorly. I'm gonna force it. It It reminded me a
Speaker 1: ton of Jimmy Garoppolo's play that he tore an a
Speaker 1: c l on back in teen um where he could
Speaker 1: have gone out of on two. Robert Salah I believe
Speaker 1: was on the sideline for the Michael from a pr angle.
Speaker 1: It might help to be out for three weeks versus
Speaker 1: having more poor performances that we're talking about this it's
Speaker 1: a disaster. You also don't want Joe Flacco and or
Speaker 1: Mike White out playing you again this year. But I'm
Speaker 1: glad for the Jets and for Zach Wilson that it
Speaker 1: really looks like he's going to be able to play
Speaker 1: this year. That's what the season is all about. Evaluate him. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were evaluating quarterbacks in Pittsburgh on what was that
Speaker 1: Friday night That was kind of the main preseason game
Speaker 1: to me, Steelers Seahawks. So we're we're gonna go through
Speaker 1: the things we believe in after and we can just
Speaker 1: jump around to any game. But this game I just
Speaker 1: wanted to hit quickly because it has the two genuine
Speaker 1: quarterback battles I think still going on. I don't quite
Speaker 1: count Caroline as a genuine battle. Just feels like it's
Speaker 1: Baker's team. They'll just announce it. But Pittsburgh and and Seattle,
Speaker 1: we're interesting. Kenny Pickett Patrick, who started preseason getting a
Speaker 1: lot of negative reports, helped to quiet those down with
Speaker 1: a nice performance that maybe gets him a little more
Speaker 1: look in the coming weeks. And I don't think just
Speaker 1: a a settling down type performance. Kenny Pickett comes in
Speaker 1: and gets a win in Pittsburgh this home fans are
Speaker 1: used to watching him in that very stadium. I think
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett made a good case. It's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: if he keeps playing like this to say to a
Speaker 1: fan base, yeah, we we appreciate you guys liking what
Speaker 1: we did in the preseason, but we're gonna get Mitch
Speaker 1: Drobisky out there and get him some more snaps. I
Speaker 1: think it's a hard sell to make. I know Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin's gonna make this decision based on who plays the best.
Speaker 1: He said, who performs the best in the pocket. I've
Speaker 1: seen improvement, and Kenny Pickett from what we saw from
Speaker 1: his college tape, I think it's I think it's Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1: I really do well. I think there's more. I have
Speaker 1: one problem for Mitch Drabinsky, who I think you know
Speaker 1: I've been down on Mitch Robinsky his entire career. I
Speaker 1: thought he looked pretty. He looked fine in that game.
Speaker 1: And and Mike Tomlin, going back to the heart of
Speaker 1: last season when he would talk about the future at
Speaker 1: the position, kept talking about mobility, and Mr Robinsky created that,
Speaker 1: and I thought he gave him. He helped the Steelers
Speaker 1: in that. And you haven't seen that obviously from like
Speaker 1: guy like Big Ben in a long time. He wasn't perfect,
Speaker 1: but Kenny Pickett is out there, and you've got the
Speaker 1: entire stadium yelling Kenny Ken like the dynamic is a problem.
Speaker 1: But Kenny was. Pickett was not perfect in that game either.
Speaker 1: I mean he was, he was fine. A lot of
Speaker 1: his completions were less than ten yards with yards after
Speaker 1: the catch. I mean, Mason Rudolph, I thought, made the
Speaker 1: throw of the game to George Pickens, who is a
Speaker 1: star already. Right, might have a little Pickens pop coming
Speaker 1: up later. You're right. All three quarterbacks had their moments
Speaker 1: and played pretty well on balance. Trabinsky, you got if
Speaker 1: you guys didn't watch the game, and I hope that
Speaker 1: most people listening weren't watching every single game. So that's
Speaker 1: what we're here for. We're gonna let you know. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch until this morning, real talk, but I didn't
Speaker 1: tell yeaheah, you're catching up. Uh. Trabinsky's offensive line was
Speaker 1: tear was just getting destroyed, which is a little worrisome,
Speaker 1: and so he did what he could. You're right, Rudolph
Speaker 1: made a nice play, also had like two really one
Speaker 1: rough play where he should have been picked off, but
Speaker 1: otherwise probably threw the ball the best of the three.
Speaker 1: And for what it's at the Athletics, Markboli thinks that
Speaker 1: Rudolph has actually been the best quarterback in camp, but
Speaker 1: that he's sometimes a player that's better in practice than games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he also said that with a caveat right, like,
Speaker 1: and it's one of those if the season started today,
Speaker 1: but if the season started to day be twenty four
Speaker 1: weeks long, like there's there's a whole lot of things
Speaker 1: that we have to analyze besides that. But we've seen
Speaker 1: so much of Mason Rudolph, Like at a certain point,
Speaker 1: we know what when the Steelers have two and they
Speaker 1: brought into biskite picket. But the ceiling is evident. And
Speaker 1: this is what I love doing shows in the studio
Speaker 1: versus when we were at home for a year plus.
Speaker 1: I saw just the distaste curdling into Claybon's face as
Speaker 1: I said something positive about Mason Rudolph, Like it was
Speaker 1: like he just drank sour milk or just like someone
Speaker 1: like ripped a far and I just had to shut
Speaker 1: up and listen to what he was going to say next.
Speaker 1: No ill will for Mason Rudolph. I just I would
Speaker 1: like to see we haven't seen Mitch in a while.
Speaker 1: He's at least like exciting. Yes, he's not going to
Speaker 1: be starting, uh, and it sounds like they want Rabinsky
Speaker 1: to start. But COOLi kind of pointed out, you know what,
Speaker 1: Trabinsky hasn't really played well in practice either, and pickets
Speaker 1: come on very strong. You're right, Mark, he wasn't like perfect.
Speaker 1: The one time he really held the ball um he
Speaker 1: did take a sack. I went and looked at the
Speaker 1: time to throw. We're looking at time to throw preseason,
Speaker 1: because it just felt like the ball was out of
Speaker 1: his hands so quick. And he was one of the
Speaker 1: lowest time to throws of any quarterbacks that played this weekend.
Speaker 1: But I look at that as a positive. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were scheming him up well, but he was getting rid
Speaker 1: of the ball very fast. He was accurate. He's good.
Speaker 1: He's good throwing on the run. I mean like he
Speaker 1: kind of can do some things that Mitch can do.
Speaker 1: He also he was fourth and one and he got
Speaker 1: dragged like yards. The game ended. He took a bad
Speaker 1: sack on fourth and one with under a minute left
Speaker 1: and opponent territory. He actually took the sack behind the
Speaker 1: fifty that should have ended the game, but then Drew
Speaker 1: Lock fumbled the ball right back and uh, and he
Speaker 1: got his moment. Pickt got his moment. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that stuff matters, the fact that the crowd
Speaker 1: is chanting Kenny Pickett and he would the first game.
Speaker 1: I think Mike Tomlin is like the ultimate football guy
Speaker 1: and like he I not that he's gonna say, okay,
Speaker 1: you're starting Week one, but I think he likes that
Speaker 1: his rookie showed up and had a moment. It puts
Speaker 1: a total ticking clock on Mitch Drabinski. And also it
Speaker 1: doesn't just matter from like a field standpoint. The people
Speaker 1: in Acqua Yes Stadium have seen a lot of Steelers
Speaker 1: football and they're excited for a reason. I think that
Speaker 1: the opportunity that Kenny Pickett has. I can't discount that feeling.
Speaker 1: It's not just a feeling. They know what they're talking
Speaker 1: about too. So here's what's gonna happen. He's most likely
Speaker 1: going to get more reps with starters coming up. And
Speaker 1: to me, even if he doesn't have much of a
Speaker 1: chance for a Week one starting, and maybe he does
Speaker 1: if he if he kept it going every preseason appearance,
Speaker 1: he's fighting against the Week two or three Rabinsky. That's
Speaker 1: struggling because because if he stacks a game or to
Speaker 1: pick it like this, then the hook is just gonna
Speaker 1: be that much quicker. Uh. And he that last throw,
Speaker 1: I know the receiver made a play to go win
Speaker 1: the game, but he good timing, good anticipation on that throw.
Speaker 1: He left, he let it go, pick it did before
Speaker 1: the guy made his cut. That's perfect. Drew Lock was
Speaker 1: the opposite, which is that he had some good moments
Speaker 1: before then. They moved the ball up and down the
Speaker 1: field kind of like pick it, mostly on short throws
Speaker 1: where guys made plays after the catch. Uh. But his
Speaker 1: game ended really poorly, And I think that's got a
Speaker 1: matter to Pete Carroll, who titled his book Win Forever
Speaker 1: and uh the only two bad rap reps that Lock
Speaker 1: really had the whole game to be really bad reps.
Speaker 1: Where his last two he had a third and long
Speaker 1: tie game uh where he had a wide open receiver
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field where he would set
Speaker 1: up for the go ahead score. He sails the receiver
Speaker 1: by ten yards then first down. All you gotta do
Speaker 1: is get about ten yards to go win the game.
Speaker 1: And I think Pete Carroll cares about winning the game
Speaker 1: and he takes a strip sack were Lock admitted he
Speaker 1: should have seen the free rusher. That was his responsibility.
Speaker 1: Strip sack loses the game. I actually think that was meaningful.
Speaker 1: And I thought lot Luck didn't have much of a
Speaker 1: chance to win the Week one job over Gino, and
Speaker 1: now I think he almost has no chance. The way
Speaker 1: that Pete carrolls, I think Gino Smith looks more at
Speaker 1: home in the offense, which makes sense. He you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's been in it. Uh, you know, he he
Speaker 1: is who he is, and I'm not like for me,
Speaker 1: I think they kind of want Geno Smith to win
Speaker 1: the job. He was plagued by a few drops in
Speaker 1: that game. If you take away those drops, like his
Speaker 1: numbers were really good, and I just think he you know,
Speaker 1: he's I've always thought his ceiling and sorry, Greg is
Speaker 1: very limited. And they they've signed up for these two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at this point, but Geno Smith looks like the
Speaker 1: better guy to me. If you're going to have an
Speaker 1: example of what you don't want from Drew Lock for
Speaker 1: the author of Win Forever, right, it would be to
Speaker 1: have a bad offensive line slide right on a strip
Speaker 1: sack to lose the game, and and then um Gino
Speaker 1: coming out and just being Gino right, just operating this
Speaker 1: just to be clear, but Gino is not gonna get
Speaker 1: you killed, right, You're gonna be in these games. It's
Speaker 1: like you you ask yourself, what's the more likely scenario.
Speaker 1: You start the season with Locke and then you eventually
Speaker 1: go to Gino or you just routed out with Gino throughout,
Speaker 1: And I guess there's this this cost idea where you
Speaker 1: have Lock and there's the potential there that could turn
Speaker 1: into something, But how much of that do you really believe?
Speaker 1: And it's Pete Carroll and John Snyder and they don't
Speaker 1: have anything to lose. It's not like they have to
Speaker 1: stake their career. I think they think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: games here this year. They can It's not gonna be
Speaker 1: the one thing I think with Gino Smith, and it's
Speaker 1: like we all get what he is. Like we watched
Speaker 1: every team play and there was good quarterback play from
Speaker 1: a variety spots where you see electricity, you see big plays,
Speaker 1: and I just don't see that from Gino Smith. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get you. He's a field goal guy. He did
Speaker 1: you feel goal? I agree in aggregate he didn't make
Speaker 1: two really nice throws in that game. But I think
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's favorite rep from Gino might have been a
Speaker 1: third and six in the red zone or third and
Speaker 1: twelve in the red zone where he had a lot
Speaker 1: of time but everyone was covered and then like Pete,
Speaker 1: and then Gino just dumps it down for a boring
Speaker 1: six yard game and they kick a field goal, like Pete.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll loves that stuff, and that is Gino, Like
Speaker 1: he's found his Pete Carroll's found his conservative king. Pete.
Speaker 1: Gino is a conservative quarterback ultimately, like he'll he'll go
Speaker 1: for checkdown to hold onto the ball a little too much.
Speaker 1: And then I find like the postgame pressers always and
Speaker 1: just all the quarterback questions to Pete Carroll generally this month.
Speaker 1: Uh funny because whenever the reporter tries to gas up
Speaker 1: Drew lock a little bit, Pete Carroll has like a retort.
Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks were efficient. Um, really, Gino could have been
Speaker 1: ten for ten. You know, we had two drops in
Speaker 1: them and no one's gotta standbounds on the ball in
Speaker 1: the sidelines and then he gets them all. Um, when
Speaker 1: we were we move the ball down pretty good with
Speaker 1: with Drew. Also you know that that yeah, like that
Speaker 1: was a question where someone actually was like looked like
Speaker 1: lock I was pretty good. Maybe made some ground here
Speaker 1: that that's how he answers. It had one throw to
Speaker 1: Noah Fund who's out of bounce, but that but but
Speaker 1: he when you say ten out of ten, a person
Speaker 1: is ten out of ten, you're thinking something. Geno's ten
Speaker 1: on a ten is not what I'm thinking when I
Speaker 1: think ten on a tend And also for Drew Locket,
Speaker 1: especially in that sound bite, for Pete Carroll, the way
Speaker 1: that he approaches the game, losing the game on that
Speaker 1: stript set, he's definitely not going to see the praises.
Speaker 1: Like no matter how you phrase the question afterwards. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he was stinging over right. The one play Gino
Speaker 1: mentioned too after the game that he was really happy
Speaker 1: was was reading, uh, pretty creative blitz by the Steelers
Speaker 1: to where he found the dump off for a first down.
Speaker 1: I think it was the running back and end up
Speaker 1: being a first down, and it was like, that's what
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll loves. That's why he wants Jo Smith. It
Speaker 1: might not be excited, but we're getting you know, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have freaking believe it and it's not exciting, Like
Speaker 1: I just I don't have to agree that it's light.
Speaker 1: This is you, this is your world, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: it's happening for you. But that after all these years,
Speaker 1: Geno Smith is really going to be a Week one
Speaker 1: starter in the NFL. You have a you have a
Speaker 1: hyperm for middling qbs. I don't get it. All it
Speaker 1: took was a franchise punting on their Hall of fame quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's all it took. That was the journey together. Uh,
Speaker 1: hopefully the Ravens will never punt on their franchise hall
Speaker 1: of fame quarterback. Lamar Jackson. That's our final bit of news.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson mentioned this weekend he's kind of set a deadline.
Speaker 1: It was phrased to him, is that a hard deadline?
Speaker 1: And he essentially said yes, answering the question. He didn't
Speaker 1: put it out there, but that was the question that
Speaker 1: was asked to him. In terms of a contract um
Speaker 1: discussion that if he gets two week one, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to talk contract anymore. He would uh enter a
Speaker 1: contract year next year the best way to do it,
Speaker 1: and that's Lamar has been consistent with this. We were
Speaker 1: in for the starter training camp and Scott Pioli, who
Speaker 1: was with the organization when they moved UH to Baltimore
Speaker 1: in the first place, reported that they were confident that
Speaker 1: they were going to get this done, and Lamar said
Speaker 1: that I missed that that he was confident. Uh, they
Speaker 1: were having discussions, which is always a good sign when
Speaker 1: you when you're still having having the chat. But if
Speaker 1: if the number is not what Lamarmot wants, he's perfectly content. Uh.
Speaker 1: Seeing what's happened, we saw Dak Prescott's leg in two
Speaker 1: pieces and he still got his contract. I think Lamar
Speaker 1: is confident that if the number is not right, he'll
Speaker 1: play this season and it's only gonna get bigger. The
Speaker 1: number is only gonna go up as the season goes on,
Speaker 1: so it's it's up to them to find the number
Speaker 1: that works. He's never panicked. He's been extremely kind of
Speaker 1: low key and chill about it, and I just think, like,
Speaker 1: it's not But there's no scenario here that they both
Speaker 1: like each other. We'll see if it happens on the ground.
Speaker 1: Reporting here from Claibon in Baltimore. How was it? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, you've you've you know, I don't think of
Speaker 1: you as like a guy who puts his emotions on
Speaker 1: his sleeves a lot with players or teams, but you're
Speaker 1: a pretty big Lamar Jackson And so you interviewed him
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Was that? How was that like as
Speaker 1: a fan to interview like someone like that? It was.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty nice moment because it was it
Speaker 1: was on Back Together Saturday and there was a fireworks
Speaker 1: show and kids are holding up jerseys for Lamartisson and
Speaker 1: he's coming through and doing everything. It was just one
Speaker 1: of those I Love my job type moments and also
Speaker 1: cool to dap up Lamar, who says he kind of
Speaker 1: downplayed his body changing, but he's up in the two
Speaker 1: twenties now says its rookie year. He was at two
Speaker 1: oh two. But do you think he knows you're a fan?
Speaker 1: Probably not. You know, It's not like like trying not
Speaker 1: to bother people, like if I see somebody in the airport,
Speaker 1: I think the last time I asked for an autograph
Speaker 1: with Stone Colt Steve Austin in the terminal acceptable. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, I just trying to
Speaker 1: you know, hey, hey, appreciate you, thanks for thanks for
Speaker 1: stopping by. That's that's my attitude. As Dan would say,
Speaker 1: pro pros who are pro you don't vibe fanboy, that's
Speaker 1: gonna lose his Head's not just saying if there was
Speaker 1: one play, are what happened? That would have been it.
Speaker 1: So over five thousand people on Twitter because of you.
Speaker 1: That's how, that's how. That is amazing. And that is
Speaker 1: it for the news. Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the preseason games. We've already started to
Speaker 1: hit on it, but we're um now gonna talk about
Speaker 1: some things over the weekend, and we're taping this after
Speaker 1: all sixteen games. Because we didn't talk about that Patriots
Speaker 1: Giants game in the two games that were on Thursday.
Speaker 1: So I'm opening the floor to you two and I'll
Speaker 1: throw some out there. It's hard to kind of separate
Speaker 1: the wheat from the chaff in the preseason. That's an
Speaker 1: old phrase. I don't really understand you separate what matters
Speaker 1: what doesn't. We actually believe in more more of a
Speaker 1: very guy. Farming used to be very important to the world, bigger,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still is quite important. It was a
Speaker 1: bigger percentage of the economy back in the day. Workers
Speaker 1: and I think like farming nomenclature and you know, parables
Speaker 1: worked probably better back then than now. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: making you're making fun of me. But how many farms
Speaker 1: have you ever worked at in your life? I worked
Speaker 1: on a farm in Australia. Actually, what about you? International farm?
Speaker 1: I'm zero for zero, tied at one each family farms.
Speaker 1: It would be probably better for us to all know
Speaker 1: a little bit more about agriculture. And it was good,
Speaker 1: it was a good experience. Unfortunately you learned about yeah,
Speaker 1: like that these farms largely rely on illegal immigration and
Speaker 1: there's the problems. That's what That's what I mean. Let's
Speaker 1: throw out what we believe on let's believe and let's
Speaker 1: let's start with Mark. Why not. It's it's so easy.
Speaker 1: I just put these in order. I I you know,
Speaker 1: I like you Gregors. You know your weekends going up
Speaker 1: and down. I watched some of these games, a lot
Speaker 1: of them yesterday and I caught, you know, a bit
Speaker 1: of the live action of the Niners versus the Packers
Speaker 1: and could tell it was one of the better preseason
Speaker 1: games around. But Trey Lance, because we spent months and
Speaker 1: months and months wondering whether he can play or not,
Speaker 1: whether Kyle Shanahan didn't actually want him, but maybe the
Speaker 1: front office it did John Lynch. And then you watch
Speaker 1: what happened in that game and his arm and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is why Jimmy g is a persona on Garratta
Speaker 1: in San Francisco at this point. The seventies six yard
Speaker 1: laser bolt to Danny Gray, who was also a fascinating
Speaker 1: young wide receiver, extremely fast, four three speed, was incredible
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, it's like their large amount of
Speaker 1: moments in the preseason that just make you feel something
Speaker 1: within and that did because suddenly the Niners feel completely
Speaker 1: different to me. And then the thirty nine yard touchdown
Speaker 1: to Raby Rabbi mcleoud. I mean, he can just do
Speaker 1: it and I are both these go routes where it's
Speaker 1: like it changes what the Niners offense can be. And
Speaker 1: I think if you're Kyle Shanahan, you are freaking out
Speaker 1: inside after what you saw, because they've seen it in practice.
Speaker 1: I mean even last summer you talked about how much
Speaker 1: more aggressive he was on certain plays than Jimmy g
Speaker 1: And I think he had that finger injury at the
Speaker 1: end of last season that limited his performances in general,
Speaker 1: and you kind of went into the off season wondering,
Speaker 1: who is Trey Lance at this point? What with what
Speaker 1: I saw. I look at the Niners and think their
Speaker 1: stock is totally up if this is what he is.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's you know, there have been practiced reports
Speaker 1: that have been a little little up and down too.
Speaker 1: But maybe you get to the games and he can
Speaker 1: do this because they've got someone like Danny Gray, Brandon I,
Speaker 1: Daebo Samuel. You've got weapons that can beat secondaries and
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback that confine them. It changes everything
Speaker 1: for San Francisco. And it's not even with the full
Speaker 1: running game on display, because Trey is not gonna have
Speaker 1: too many keepers in the preseason, and it's honestly, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be Trey Sermon back there. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: more speed in the backfield. It's just gonna look totally different.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be catered to Trey and unfortunately for the
Speaker 1: Jimmy g era. The thing we're gonna remember is the
Speaker 1: past to Manny Sanders that wasn't and we're gonna think
Speaker 1: about the missed opportunities deep and Trey steps in and
Speaker 1: you feel better about it. You think the offense is
Speaker 1: going to be better on the short end. And also
Speaker 1: you know the Jimmy had problems in the intermediate right,
Speaker 1: not seeing linebackers. Sometimes I think the sky the limit.
Speaker 1: I'm with you right there, Mark. I believe you were excited.
Speaker 1: I know you were. You were watching that one live, Yes,
Speaker 1: little Tray Lance action. That was about as good as
Speaker 1: the preseason is gonna get it. To be fair, you
Speaker 1: can see one thing that's annoying about the preseason where
Speaker 1: you have to I watched it yesterday. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to tweet something about Trey Lance and got
Speaker 1: like three legs because it's like, bro, that game was
Speaker 1: days ago. Like you gotta make Yeah, you gotta make
Speaker 1: it's tricky. You just gotta not do it. And you
Speaker 1: gotta find a time where everybody's watching the same game.
Speaker 1: You gotta make it spice. If it's the next day,
Speaker 1: then it's got to be more of like a tree
Speaker 1: lance for the season. Take Well, it was also a
Speaker 1: very milk toast tweets I said, I'm like just catching
Speaker 1: up now or something. It's like, all right, loser, like,
Speaker 1: why are you bothering us with this? So it was
Speaker 1: it was unnecessary. You know, learned a lesson. I think
Speaker 1: that is a lesson. You don't want to do the
Speaker 1: just catching up now? You just I Also I hate
Speaker 1: when people do tweets like hey guys, I'm watching film
Speaker 1: right now. It's like, hey listen, nerds, don't care, We'll
Speaker 1: just get to the real part. We know you're watching.
Speaker 1: That's what the tweet tells you. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: if you're hosting a podcast US and if there's any
Speaker 1: listeners out there and I still make this mistake, don't
Speaker 1: you don't need to like say, as I tweeted, this
Speaker 1: is not what you just did actually because you made
Speaker 1: it into a story, or as I said in like
Speaker 1: the chat or as I you know, just say it,
Speaker 1: just say it, go right to the go right to that.
Speaker 1: Danny Danny Gray was has been a guy that has
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of like fire from Kyle Shanahan. He
Speaker 1: tends because he played receiver. I think he's like hard
Speaker 1: on the receivers. That's that's at least the rep He
Speaker 1: was like that with a Yuk. He's been like that
Speaker 1: with Debo very early on, and he's like that with
Speaker 1: Danny Grays. They really that to me is actually a
Speaker 1: good sign for Danny Gray. They want Danny Gray to
Speaker 1: really be a bigger part because he's been the star
Speaker 1: of the camp. And if you have and if you're
Speaker 1: making a scenario of how you wanted Trey Lance's first
Speaker 1: uh fifteen months as a forty Niner to go, if
Speaker 1: you had said beforehand, we make the NFC Championship with
Speaker 1: Jimmy g we have what looks like on paper to
Speaker 1: be a top five defense going into two and a
Speaker 1: great running game. So there, you know, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: have to do as much. And we've got Deebo. Samuel
Speaker 1: is like an m v P candidate, and a Yuka
Speaker 1: is you know, peaking. Well, that sounds a boat ideal.
Speaker 1: It actually sounds like exactly how you would want to develop. Uh,
Speaker 1: this young quarterback. What what's something you believe in after
Speaker 1: watching one week of the preseason and getting a chance
Speaker 1: to see them in practice. I believe in the Jags defense. Uh.
Speaker 1: People wonder about you have back to back number one
Speaker 1: overall picks. You take treyvon Walker and it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's got the polish. It's it's there.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker is solid against the run, the power. People
Speaker 1: wondered if that would show up at the next level.
Speaker 1: It's there. I think this this defense because Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: in the offense are gonna be a whole lot of attention.
Speaker 1: We saw how they performed against Carson Wentz. There's the
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz caveat was Carson Wentz in the last week
Speaker 1: of the season. But I believe, and of course the
Speaker 1: cloud of Urban Meyer is gone. They don't have to
Speaker 1: deal with that. They can kind of get treated like adults,
Speaker 1: which Josh Allen said, I'm ready. I'm ready for the
Speaker 1: Jags defense. When you talk like we talk about the
Speaker 1: bad teams last year that have a chance to get
Speaker 1: a bunch more wins. I think the Jaguars are right
Speaker 1: in that conversation, and I know everyone was picking the
Speaker 1: Jets is that they could be too. But the Jaguars
Speaker 1: with good coaching versus what the apocalyptic scenario that happened
Speaker 1: a year ago. Literally players needed like psychological recovery from that.
Speaker 1: The way they talked about it, there's stability there. I
Speaker 1: thought Trevor Lawrence looked a lot better in that offense
Speaker 1: in this game, in the short moment that we saw him.
Speaker 1: But you're right, two weeks in a row of the
Speaker 1: defense has been pretty fiery. Yeah, Trayvon Walker, he helped
Speaker 1: force a fumble where he just like exploded. I mean
Speaker 1: you could just you can just see it with some
Speaker 1: guys there, even though he looked like he's more athletic
Speaker 1: than the other guys in the SEC. Still looks like
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. And Tyson Campbell is another defensive
Speaker 1: player that they seem to be really excited about that's
Speaker 1: been flashing. I'm gonna go h with a rookie as well.
Speaker 1: The rookies are ultimately the most in interesting I would
Speaker 1: say part of the preseason, and you met to George
Speaker 1: Pickens before, and I'm gonna be that guy when you
Speaker 1: have a take in the off season. Uh, you only
Speaker 1: have to wait one preseason game to have it confirmed.
Speaker 1: My priors are confirmed. George Pickens is awesome. Uh. I
Speaker 1: just when you watched his college sape, he seemed like
Speaker 1: he might be the best receiver in this class just
Speaker 1: based off of his tape. But he was coming off
Speaker 1: of a torn e c L and there was some
Speaker 1: off field you know stuff. Okay, Mike Tomlin is exactly
Speaker 1: the team and the coach that you want a player
Speaker 1: to land in at some point. All these receivers that
Speaker 1: they draft in the middle rounds that usually fall for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, people give all the credit to Kevin colber
Speaker 1: And and then he should get a lot of it.
Speaker 1: He he spots talent, He picks the right guys. But
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they all seemed to work out
Speaker 1: because they're on Mike Tomlin's team. Like he creates a
Speaker 1: structure and a system and it's and you can change
Speaker 1: to the offensive coordinators. Sometimes it's a baller like Bruce Arians. Uh,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not, you know, whatever it is, the receivers
Speaker 1: tend to work out because I think Mike Tomlin has
Speaker 1: a way to reach players, to create a structure where
Speaker 1: these players thrive. And George Pickens to go off on another.
Speaker 1: Mark Caboli in the Athletic Sentence said that before this game,
Speaker 1: he's literally never seen a rookie been better this fast,
Speaker 1: that that this early in camp. That they're this good
Speaker 1: every single day as George Pickens, and unlike Jamison Williams,
Speaker 1: who got taken first. And I was debating between Williams
Speaker 1: and Pickens as my top two in my rankings, I
Speaker 1: went Williams first, Pickens second. You got to worry about
Speaker 1: that a c L sir, you know, recovery while he
Speaker 1: was still in college. Now he's good. He he returns
Speaker 1: for the very end of the Georgia season and so
Speaker 1: now he actually has some time away from it. And
Speaker 1: he made that catch on the Mason rudolph Um throw
Speaker 1: that you mentioned. That was just like a really high
Speaker 1: level touchdown catch. I know it's one play, but he
Speaker 1: also made a really contested catch on the sidelines. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a guy from from the get go.
Speaker 1: He's so complete and it's like I I was getting
Speaker 1: on like year two or three. Josh Gordon vibes from him.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I mean as a blocker, if you
Speaker 1: go watch when other like runners are coming around it,
Speaker 1: he just is looking for someone to blow up. And
Speaker 1: there's that one Twitter clip that went vibral where he
Speaker 1: just went up and jacked a Seahawks cornerback to the
Speaker 1: ground and he went like three. He just didn't because
Speaker 1: he's like out there to create disaster. And I mean
Speaker 1: he's just so complete. To me, looks like a year
Speaker 1: seven pro um. He can make the sideline catches, it
Speaker 1: was the touchdown catch. He sort of does it all
Speaker 1: and it's like he's the new DK Metcalf where it's
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be kept talked about all the guys
Speaker 1: that went before him, and he somehow the Steelers have
Speaker 1: found another one of these people. I know, their quarterback
Speaker 1: plays up going to be up and down, but they've
Speaker 1: got weapons. And here's the thing, because Greg mentioned it right,
Speaker 1: if not for the a c L injury towards the
Speaker 1: end of his career at Georgia, there's no way George
Speaker 1: Pickens is going uh burst onto the also birming him
Speaker 1: al about was George he was the m v P
Speaker 1: of his ballgame as a as a freshman, and the talent.
Speaker 1: The talent is there at the size of the physicality
Speaker 1: is there, and people were just wondering about his recovery
Speaker 1: from the knee, but it's there, Like George Pickens is back,
Speaker 1: He's at all of this tomb to recover and now
Speaker 1: it's just we're dealing with the Steelers having another receiver
Speaker 1: that everybody else was like, uh nit picking on and
Speaker 1: taking other guys. But the talent is undenied, like pick
Speaker 1: it to Pickens, like, is that could be like the
Speaker 1: next fifteen years of our life? I uh? And in
Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson is now around for the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: They love friar muth uh. To use a fantasy term,
Speaker 1: I'd be fading Chase Claypool stocks slightly just because I
Speaker 1: think ultimately they're kind of similar players, and Pickens will
Speaker 1: cut into if you're hoping for a Claypool renaissance, He's
Speaker 1: got to cut into it. Not that Claypool is gonna
Speaker 1: have a bad season or not, but you know, I
Speaker 1: just don't know how many Yeah, there's only so many targets.
Speaker 1: This would come out of either Kinney, Pickett or Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph or Mitchell trabisk There's only so many balls to
Speaker 1: go around because Nazi Harris is gonna occupy most of
Speaker 1: the touches on this offense anyway, Right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. Good, good, gonna be a host work. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm a little late on this, Sean Kelly,
Speaker 1: and now you're just gonna have to figure out how
Speaker 1: the breaks work. Let's do it, all right, we are
Speaker 1: back mark, what do you got? Fourth round pick out
Speaker 1: of Florida going to a team we almost never talked
Speaker 1: about unless we're making fun of them, The Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce running back, automatically their lead running back. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think he was the most enjoyable runner
Speaker 1: I watched of any of the games. It's one of
Speaker 1: those running backs where he blasts through the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage and suddenly, even though there's like four defenders in
Speaker 1: his face, he's seven yards ahead. He every game was
Speaker 1: seven yards eight yards now year had a great twenty
Speaker 1: yard game. There was one place, great late, incredible low
Speaker 1: center of gravity where he got knocked down and he
Speaker 1: just used his hand to spring back up and bang,
Speaker 1: He's twelve yards down the field. He I think gives
Speaker 1: the text and something they can really anchor around. And
Speaker 1: I know that's easy just to forget about the Texans,
Speaker 1: but we talked about them in our over under episode
Speaker 1: and I took them clearly for the our favorite among
Speaker 1: our favorite overs because I think it was five point five.
Speaker 1: It's not hard to win. They won four games a
Speaker 1: year ago. They have a good running back. I think
Speaker 1: they have a quarterback they can work with. They've got
Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers, but Damian Pierce, I know
Speaker 1: they have Marlon Mack. Marlon Mack is automatically the second
Speaker 1: option right there. I mean, he just to me was poetic,
Speaker 1: has the speed, the first just enjoyable to watch. If you,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people here we've watched the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans game in the last year. Go dial up
Speaker 1: his reps and you will see in this game that
Speaker 1: he's the real deal. I'm excited to watch the Texans now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like and it was five and you're right.
Speaker 1: And I know we also say like, don't totally get
Speaker 1: you know, don't overreact to the preseason, but we we
Speaker 1: mentioned how West and I think this is true with
Speaker 1: running backs a you're earning a role and then be
Speaker 1: it's not that hard to see his cutting on a dime.
Speaker 1: He just like stops and arts and then the burst
Speaker 1: is just there and he's not afraid to run people over.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he's been getting crazy hype
Speaker 1: and he was the first name that Lovey Smith said
Speaker 1: when they asked for a player after they love that
Speaker 1: that impressed you. And he just he looks like one
Speaker 1: of those guys that can see the field, like in
Speaker 1: in two or three of his runs when he made
Speaker 1: his cut, he found exactly the right hole, and he's
Speaker 1: just like, you can't really teach that you're a half
Speaker 1: second ahead of the defense. He had that, And so yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good weekend for random rookie running backs.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a little bit of a tandem.
Speaker 1: Pierce might be like a straight up starter and a
Speaker 1: totally under what's his average draft position. At this point,
Speaker 1: it's like gonna be it's almost too after listening to Mark,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna go up. And honestly, as people
Speaker 1: are watching these games and going through you're gonna see
Speaker 1: the shifts in the a DP, especially for these because
Speaker 1: he might because it's it's a value position, and when
Speaker 1: you can have a running back in an offense, it's
Speaker 1: gonna that people are kind of staying away from. It's
Speaker 1: you're just looking for touches at a certain point, right,
Speaker 1: there's a there's just gonna take him off the field, right.
Speaker 1: Marlon mackasn't looked the same since his achilles. I think
Speaker 1: Burkeet is still on that team, Like, uh, he has
Speaker 1: a chance to have two fifty touches. So to me,
Speaker 1: whatever his a DP is, it's not high enough right
Speaker 1: now because there's a legit chance he has two touches.
Speaker 1: I kind of grew him with Isaiah Pacheco, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say his life. Is that
Speaker 1: how you say his last name? Uh? So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just throw him out too. I don't think Pacheco has
Speaker 1: a chance to have as many touches, but where these
Speaker 1: players are used is absolutely instructive. And he had snaps
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes and the first team. It's like, so
Speaker 1: long Ronald Jones. I don't know if Ronald Jones is
Speaker 1: gonna make the team or not. I think there's a
Speaker 1: pretty decent chance he doesn't at this point if everyone
Speaker 1: stays healthy, like finished the game. But the fact Potchecko's
Speaker 1: out there, um and you can see it with him too.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna have as many touches because
Speaker 1: you know, Clyde Edwards Hilaire is there and Jerick McKinnon's
Speaker 1: probably gonna make that team and they'll they'll mix a match.
Speaker 1: But the fact they're already using him with Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and this is the seventh round pick, that tells me
Speaker 1: a lot. And he just like looks cool. He just
Speaker 1: has a cool running style, a little like Fred Taylor Ish.
Speaker 1: I like him, and he's got the number advantage. Does
Speaker 1: have a thing because we associate the number with Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: and so you see a person in number ten and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and that's when he's the returner. So he's
Speaker 1: active on game days and he looks like a baller
Speaker 1: returner too. So maybe he's not your you know nothing,
Speaker 1: but upside if you're if you're choosing right, if we're
Speaker 1: talking fantasy and you're looking at a running back, the
Speaker 1: upsides higher with Pacheco than it is with Rojoe. I
Speaker 1: think that's it. I do feel like you, I say
Speaker 1: at this point, do not draft Ronald Jones. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna make that too. I feel like we
Speaker 1: were two years from three years removed from like overhyping
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaria to the Skies, and then it was
Speaker 1: it didn't well, all right, you didn't, but I mean
Speaker 1: it happened like system and it came out of the
Speaker 1: blocks game busters. Okay, that's true. That's right. That week
Speaker 1: one game too, where did you notice how like? And
Speaker 1: Nate Tice tweeted about this too, that they were they
Speaker 1: just I formation over and over with Michael Burton lined
Speaker 1: up at full back and then running back, filling the
Speaker 1: blank behind him, pounding away, and it just like they
Speaker 1: looked like a different air offensive line. That's what on
Speaker 1: paper they do well. Creed Humphrey Um the other rookie
Speaker 1: last year, I'm blanking Smith, Tray Smith, uh, Orlando Brown,
Speaker 1: Like those guys are maelers and they look good last year.
Speaker 1: They should be able to run in pass well, Claybon,
Speaker 1: what do you got? I don't ding me for it.
Speaker 1: I was watching the game. I believe that the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions are an exciting and fun just maybe it's the
Speaker 1: hard year, and and I see DeAndre Swift getting getting
Speaker 1: all these carries in the opportunity. I see Jared looking
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's hard, you know, fool me a million times.
Speaker 1: I'm still getting fooled, but I am. I had fun
Speaker 1: watching the Detroit Lions, and I will continue to watch
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Guilty Well you know what's I mean.
Speaker 1: But offensive line play creates a lot of things for them,
Speaker 1: and like they and and and I think golf. There
Speaker 1: was an incredible rollout played at Amandross St. Brown, which
Speaker 1: was set up because they were pounding away at the
Speaker 1: Falcons with their run game, with their offensive line. I
Speaker 1: just think it's a good environment for a mid tier quarterback.
Speaker 1: And they're they're a team that like they are. They
Speaker 1: were interesting a year ago, but they kind of went
Speaker 1: and when they can remind me of the Eagles a
Speaker 1: little bit, not with their skill position player, but it's
Speaker 1: like build up your lines and dominate from there. And
Speaker 1: like Aidan Hutchinson someone else, we can talk about two,
Speaker 1: but I mean the way that their offense is set
Speaker 1: up there they marched right down the field and scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And I don't think that's false. I think
Speaker 1: there's something to look at there and say this can
Speaker 1: carry into the regular season. They have a great coaching staff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm curious how they use their guys in the season.
Speaker 1: Some teams like the Eagles and this is and I
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs might be another. We'll see though. Andy
Speaker 1: Reid likes to play starters. Some might use their guys
Speaker 1: in week one and then not again because they have
Speaker 1: these joint practices coming up and then they use They
Speaker 1: think that's kind of the game. I know it sounds
Speaker 1: like the Eagles, for instance, play their starters a little
Speaker 1: bit this weekend and then they're not gonna play again.
Speaker 1: So each team of coroaches it differently. I'm curious. I'm
Speaker 1: with you though that for a three win team, if
Speaker 1: you just watch the Lions each and every week, they
Speaker 1: had entertaining games. Their offense was fairly entertaining considering and
Speaker 1: they were always like in these games and they were
Speaker 1: they were fun games to watch. What do you what else?
Speaker 1: You got? Mark? And we can if you really want
Speaker 1: to get negative, you could like spin this somehow. I
Speaker 1: think there's things I believe in. I believe that this
Speaker 1: thing isn't gonna work, you know, could but mostly it
Speaker 1: was twenty more weeks, more weeks to get negative. I'd
Speaker 1: like to stay positive here in August. Um. This is
Speaker 1: not a player that is going to see the field
Speaker 1: the season, I don't think unless utter disaster takes place.
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed watching Trace McSorley. I talked about
Speaker 1: before neative because I'll just say, I'll just say I'll
Speaker 1: say this, just go watch Trace McSorley, but I will
Speaker 1: spin off to this. I will stop talk about Agan Hunton.
Speaker 1: Hu Hutchinson, like to me, was dumb in his first performance.
Speaker 1: There's a one point where he just Jake Matthews, the
Speaker 1: Falcons left tackle, does the thing where he tries to
Speaker 1: you know, get get like taking care of him, like
Speaker 1: Hutchins just like vanishes through him, like throw a portal
Speaker 1: into the backfield, takes out the running back. There's another
Speaker 1: play where he's he's burning across the field to chase Mariota,
Speaker 1: who suddenly on a bootleg, is going the other way.
Speaker 1: He just spins around with superhuman speed, runs to the
Speaker 1: other sideline and bumps Meriota out of bounds. And I
Speaker 1: just thought Aidan Hutchinson could not have showed more to
Speaker 1: say he is exactly what they wanted. Somebody such does
Speaker 1: not work. You get you draft that pass rusher first overall,
Speaker 1: second overall, and it does not It does not happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, we love him on hard knocks, but on
Speaker 1: the field he delivered masterclass. I'm so glad you said
Speaker 1: superhuman speed mark because there's so many times and I
Speaker 1: know it's a Detroit and it's the motor city, but
Speaker 1: the motor thing always happens. And it's like Aidan Hudginson
Speaker 1: does a spin move, jumps over a guy and then
Speaker 1: uses incredible speed to get a quarterback, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at this guy's motor It's no, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say that it's extremely it's not that he's trying
Speaker 1: harder than everybody. He's incredible and it was another again,
Speaker 1: I hate to go back, but it's like this is fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun. I believe like that they're making good picks.
Speaker 1: I like what the staff has done. Hurt me, go
Speaker 1: ahead and hurt me. I'm sorry for stepping on your
Speaker 1: We can have quick points. You would say, to be honest,
Speaker 1: he's on the Cardinals something, you know what he but
Speaker 1: he is a better backup for their offense because he
Speaker 1: does Kyler Murray type things. And he just threw like
Speaker 1: a couple of moments where he just would disappear into
Speaker 1: a scrum of enemy defenders and then bang circles back
Speaker 1: around and made a play. And he's running all over
Speaker 1: the place like he's just enjoyable. We may not see
Speaker 1: him again. What if they give an entire quarterback room
Speaker 1: of small quarterbacks, Like what if that's that's not the
Speaker 1: worst idea. That is what they've done. You if you
Speaker 1: had if you were having another child, I know you
Speaker 1: have some twenty year olds just floating around the area.
Speaker 1: I'm not having another child. If he did, maybe just
Speaker 1: like you, cult is your youngest son. Yes, they're in
Speaker 1: the same room. He feels like a similar vibe. Hey,
Speaker 1: look the Ravens developed quarterbacks. I mean, look at right now.
Speaker 1: Hunley might be my favorite backup in the league. Kind
Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere. It looked good in their
Speaker 1: preseason game. Trace McSorley comes from there. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's learned some things. You're right, Get an organization that
Speaker 1: treats people right and gives people opportunities and like lo
Speaker 1: and behold Tyrod. People forget like people slag on Tyrode.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, this is a sixth round pick who
Speaker 1: once made a Pro Bowl and his like cast multiple
Speaker 1: good long term contracts. He's had an incredible career. Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I just got on that front.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, um a take that I believe in. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And you have to be careful with the Titans fans
Speaker 1: these days, and we don't have Graver here. But I
Speaker 1: just think it's August fifteen, and I think this is
Speaker 1: a true statement. And if you had said this statement
Speaker 1: in June, he would have been like, what what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Kyle Phillips their rookie receiver, slot receiver
Speaker 1: at this moment, I believe has a more secure Week
Speaker 1: one role than Traylon Burks, which is which is odd
Speaker 1: you you wouldn't have expected that. Now, depending on who
Speaker 1: you listen to. I don't want to get into the
Speaker 1: Traylon Burks is having a good camp or not um discussion.
Speaker 1: It's like some people say he's looked find some people
Speaker 1: say he doesn't. The reality is he he was playing
Speaker 1: with the backups deep into the fourth quarter and that's unusual.
Speaker 1: He was the only one of the first and second
Speaker 1: round picks at receiver to be doing that, and that
Speaker 1: that might just be what Mike Vrabel wants to do.
Speaker 1: He just wants to get him out there. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't say much about tray Lion Burks. And it's also
Speaker 1: a totally normal part of Brooks's development, But just in
Speaker 1: terms of where he was slotted, he was sort of
Speaker 1: slotted six, seventh receiver and he's out there. Kyle Phillips,
Speaker 1: also a rookie, UH, played three snaps or six snaps
Speaker 1: something like that, had as many targets, by the way,
Speaker 1: as Burke's in that game each had one. It looks
Speaker 1: like by all the reporting that Phillips is going to
Speaker 1: have a Week one role as kind of that smaller
Speaker 1: slot guy. Uh, Phillips rather is going to have that
Speaker 1: role Week one slot guy, whereas Burks is battling and
Speaker 1: right now, like Robert Woods, Nick Westbrook Aquina sat out
Speaker 1: that game kind of looked like the starters, and at
Speaker 1: at the very least, Burke's is sort of splitting reps
Speaker 1: and battling with Westbrook Aquina and might not come out
Speaker 1: of the gates getting that full complement of snaps. I
Speaker 1: think that's a fair interpretation of what we're seeing so far,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that by week five, because this
Speaker 1: is how it happens with rookies often that Burke's isn't
Speaker 1: getting all those snaps. I think that's what the Titans
Speaker 1: are hoping, and I think that's why they're playing him
Speaker 1: this much in the preseason, because they're trying to build
Speaker 1: them to that point. But the reason he's playing all
Speaker 1: those snaps, I believe is because they think that he
Speaker 1: needs him. Can I have a take off your take?
Speaker 1: I think because of the presence of Grave Digger and
Speaker 1: I understand what happened with that report around Trailon Burke's,
Speaker 1: you're almost being to your acquesty into them too much,
Speaker 1: because I think you're exactly right. If they're in love
Speaker 1: with him, if they prize him, if he's had a
Speaker 1: great camp, if all things are going wonderfully, he's not playing,
Speaker 1: he's not finishing the game. That's highly unusual usage of
Speaker 1: a first round pick. It's all we need to see
Speaker 1: someone somehow, Nathan jan Kie john Kie at PFF, I
Speaker 1: probably pusher that he somehow had that stats that d J.
Speaker 1: Moore was the only other first round pick to play
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter of his first I think the
Speaker 1: Titans are trying to send a message to hands like
Speaker 1: it's what's good company. It's a good company. It's tough
Speaker 1: to take too much away from because obviously the reason
Speaker 1: that we're talking about it is because variable in company
Speaker 1: or approaching it in in this certain way. But because
Speaker 1: Traylon is not beating out in w I at this point,
Speaker 1: it might not be exceedingly negative for Traylon. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just Nick Westbrook Kine is having a solid step into
Speaker 1: the fold. He was good in parts. He had a
Speaker 1: big role on a team that you know, I had
Speaker 1: the one seed. It's not like Westbrook a Keene is
Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere. But he was playing behind like
Speaker 1: Racey McMath in these games who he had a couple
Speaker 1: of big plays in that game. That's a little more concerning.
Speaker 1: But he might be the four. Kyle Phillips was actually
Speaker 1: the guy I wanted to put out there because I
Speaker 1: had no idea until I was like researching for this column,
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Speaker 1: fifty nine takeaways from preseason week. Well. Be careful though,
Speaker 1: because last time one got wiped off the board due
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Speaker 1: It was fifty one last week. I've stepped it up.
Speaker 1: It's fifty nine. It's everything in one place. The public
Speaker 1: has a Pavlovian reaction to seeing Greg Rosenthal and then
Speaker 1: on number like whatever the number is, it's like, oh, this,
Speaker 1: this is it. I got I got a key in,
Speaker 1: so whether you know where it comes from. I m
Speaker 1: used to be the editor of the fantasy magazine at
Speaker 1: Road to World, which Beckett would produce. But it was
Speaker 1: the Road to World fantasy magazine presented by Beckett, and
Speaker 1: they told me go with the weird numbers. Don't go
Speaker 1: fifty on the front for make it like sixty seven.
Speaker 1: They said it sells better at the back in the
Speaker 1: And that's not really why I'm doing that. I just
Speaker 1: am writing as many things as I think are interested
Speaker 1: and then stopping. But that's that was what their take
Speaker 1: was back in the day. Claibn, what do you got?
Speaker 1: I Okay, So coming into the season, I know I've
Speaker 1: been negative about backup quarterbacks at times, um and it's
Speaker 1: not to be negative about the starting quarterback for the
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders right now. But Sam how it looked really good.
Speaker 1: Sam how it looked good. And it's not this is
Speaker 1: not a Carson So I support you. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: not noise that you have to tune out. You had
Speaker 1: an m v P caliber campaign a few years ago,
Speaker 1: You've you've got a Super Bowl ring. Um. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: Sam Howell looked really good for the for the Washington Commanders,
Speaker 1: and he made plays inside and outside of the pocket.
Speaker 1: He operated the offense well. I think Sam how could
Speaker 1: get some run here, and that's a team that could
Speaker 1: vive for the first overall pick. I mean, or they
Speaker 1: just there's not a lot of spice around the Commanders
Speaker 1: right now. And and if Carson struggles and they get
Speaker 1: into a position where they're out of the race, he
Speaker 1: could just start the last five or six games of
Speaker 1: the year and it could be the third decided to
Speaker 1: really go ahead and start to take command. And he
Speaker 1: did take command in that game was pretty good. He
Speaker 1: also numbers taking command. Maybe didn't he look just like
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. And I'm not trying to be negative. It's like, listen,
Speaker 1: he I don't know what they're asking to do in
Speaker 1: that game, but like it was fine numbers, but Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz but he did not. He did not like Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz just sort of looked like win to me, not
Speaker 1: broken down that I am curious to watch, how though,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to if you know some lower
Speaker 1: tier rookies, if you guys are just curious out there.
Speaker 1: Matt Corral really struggled. The Panthers had the most bizarre
Speaker 1: game winning drive ever that was all penalties, but I
Speaker 1: think he was one for nine. And how kind of
Speaker 1: was the other guy like Corral that fell further? I
Speaker 1: guess Malik Willis to let's throw him in there, who
Speaker 1: I would say had some really flashy plays and then
Speaker 1: also held the ball a lot and and upset Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel for that, but also showed some really fun good plays.
Speaker 1: Um and I guess you're saying how who I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten a chance to watch. It was a little spicy, interesting.
Speaker 1: I like it. This is a guy who who a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Yeah, people saw their arm talent.
Speaker 1: This guy could go number one overall and it didn't
Speaker 1: work out that way. But now he's got another opportunity. Well,
Speaker 1: he's another guy to a lesser degree than pick It
Speaker 1: and and I would even throw Corral in this mix
Speaker 1: if he had a better preseason, but he's off to
Speaker 1: a really bad start um, which is, if how does
Speaker 1: have three good weeks, we're gonna see him in December.
Speaker 1: And and if Corral has three good weeks, which it
Speaker 1: looks like he's not going to have now, he won't
Speaker 1: then if he has three weeks like this where he struggles,
Speaker 1: we won't see him. Yeah. I think for Corral though,
Speaker 1: there's there's a huge hurdle in a quarterback battle going
Speaker 1: on in front of you, and those guys occupying so
Speaker 1: many reps that probably he's he's he's playing with it
Speaker 1: with his crappy hand for what it's worth. You know,
Speaker 1: Baker and Donald both didn't play that long and both
Speaker 1: looked fine. There wasn't any huge take aways while we're
Speaker 1: on Washington, just quickly. I did have a takeaway from
Speaker 1: that game, which was, I I do sense the backfield
Speaker 1: is going to be a committee there. Uh So. I
Speaker 1: I love Antonio Gibson as a player, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be fading him. But I just have a feeling that
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson is Ron Rivera's type of running back. Runs aggressively,
Speaker 1: He's like a downhill runner. They also have j D
Speaker 1: McKissick there, uh and Gibson fumbled in that game, and
Speaker 1: it just feels like they're all gonna get run. Bryan
Speaker 1: Robinson is gonna get run because that's Ron Rivera's dude.
Speaker 1: And Ron Rivera's trying to bring it back to smash
Speaker 1: and dash. Danen D'Angelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart maybe the best
Speaker 1: backfield dual backfield in my history of covering the NFL.
Speaker 1: The one I would put in front of him would
Speaker 1: be uh, Fred Taylor and mj D. But that would
Speaker 1: might be my one to punch. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Gibson had a terrible fumble in that game too, which
Speaker 1: I know Ron Rivera would not like get six fumbles
Speaker 1: last year to spend a lingering issue. I I love
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera trying to go back and do what worked
Speaker 1: in like two thousand and four. I mean that's very
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera. Well, to be fair, those might be the too.
Speaker 1: You know, they have pretty good skill talent, they have
Speaker 1: good running backs, they have pretty good receivers. If John
Speaker 1: they did last year to right, like, I don't mind that.
Speaker 1: I like Antonio Gibson but I do think it's effective
Speaker 1: to use all your good running backs. Why not? All right,
Speaker 1: let's go around one more time, speed round and say goodbye.
Speaker 1: Love Romeo Dubbs. I know Christian Wilkinson out of the
Speaker 1: lineup right now, and it's it's like Romeo Dobbs. Um.
Speaker 1: I thought he looked fantastic against the Niners. And you
Speaker 1: know Jordan's love Converstlee. I I just afew Jordan's love
Speaker 1: as a backup forever. I do not see it with him,
Speaker 1: and he had he had there were three interceptions. Two
Speaker 1: of them were not on him, but one of them was.
Speaker 1: But I just I see Jordan's love with constant overthrows.
Speaker 1: I'm just not I just don't find it with him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch him closely the next couple of weeks too.
Speaker 1: I want to see more. He's always intriguing to me.
Speaker 1: He the thing I think about it, And this was
Speaker 1: this game. In a nutshell, he led PFF last year
Speaker 1: in um big time throws per snap, and granted it
Speaker 1: was a limited sample size in the prese, I believe
Speaker 1: in the preseason and the regular season, and he led
Speaker 1: PF in turnover where the plays for snap so it's
Speaker 1: like you're getting it all with Jordan's love. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: see that, I think, but at least at least there's
Speaker 1: the high side. He had had one great touchdown throwing
Speaker 1: this too, so I'm not what I mean both there,
Speaker 1: but like there's some guys you never see the high side,
Speaker 1: and they get taken in the first round, you know.
Speaker 1: And so he does not guess the first round pick
Speaker 1: for me. But Romeo Dabs though, I mean, and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers been talking about him all camp, and I think
Speaker 1: he's got a media playing time. It's impossible to keep
Speaker 1: him off the field. And suddenly that why receiver room
Speaker 1: looks a little bit better than we were, you know,
Speaker 1: panicking over a couple of months ago. Yeah, we saw
Speaker 1: him in the slot. We saw him out wide, actually crowded.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like if someone strange, I don't think
Speaker 1: anyone weird is gonna get cut. But they actually have
Speaker 1: five or six guys, like if Dobbs is starting, and
Speaker 1: I did learn over the last week it's Dobbs, not Dubbs.
Speaker 1: And you guys have been saying it right. Apparently I
Speaker 1: was saying it wrong. It's too bad. Romeo Dubbs, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's like an all time receiver name. I'd be saving
Speaker 1: Romeo Dubs for the next his name is Romeo. I
Speaker 1: mean that's great too. He's still like an eight point
Speaker 1: five out of ten, but Romeo Dubbs is an all timer.
Speaker 1: Well he could change it. All these players are changing
Speaker 1: their their names left and right. But but at this point, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going to have a week run role, maybe as
Speaker 1: a starter. What you know, Watkins is the guy who
Speaker 1: was like, are we sure Watkins and Cobb are going
Speaker 1: to make the team? I guess I don't know. You
Speaker 1: have to think right, because then Mario Rodgers, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna trust Smari Rodgers like as their slack eyed. Dubbs
Speaker 1: has been playing more on the outside, but he could
Speaker 1: play a little inside too. Just saying, uh, my last
Speaker 1: one quickly and we'll give you one more claibon is
Speaker 1: um as a cogniscente. Um. We just we assumed too
Speaker 1: much out of these rookies in May. Now some of
Speaker 1: these late round guys are stepping up quick that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected. We talked about the running backs talk
Speaker 1: to us, and then there's other guys people were just
Speaker 1: slotting in. Um Louis Scene to my the Minnesota backfield
Speaker 1: right away they were um slotting and elam two into Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now we've added these first two UH picks and they're
Speaker 1: gonna start for for the Vikings. Andrew Booth is who
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of and Louis Scene rather and both of
Speaker 1: them right now are behind guys that have been there,
Speaker 1: Cam buying them at free safety and Cameron Danceler Uh
Speaker 1: at cornerback. Both of those guys who've been around kind
Speaker 1: of been up, you know, the answer has been up
Speaker 1: and down. Now he's had a good camp and it
Speaker 1: just right now those two guys look like their backups
Speaker 1: going into the here again like Burke's that's fine, but
Speaker 1: it's like we slot these guys in. Oh, Trevor Penning,
Speaker 1: first round pick, gonna slot him in as the rookies
Speaker 1: starting left haut guy, he's strug in and it looks
Speaker 1: to me like he's probably not gonna start Week one.
Speaker 1: They're gonna start a veteran by the name of James Hurst.
Speaker 1: And it's just like you just gotta see, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to know who's gonna be good right away who's not.
Speaker 1: And and that's fine, Like the Vikings have a deep secondary.
Speaker 1: I think these two guys probably would be starting on
Speaker 1: other teams. They have a nice secondary. It's like a
Speaker 1: good problem to have. But their first two picks are
Speaker 1: probably coming off the bench. To me, is interesting. You're
Speaker 1: not closing the book on somebody's career. No, No, they're
Speaker 1: gonna and they'll probably even be playing like they're gonna.
Speaker 1: They're just not starting right away. And it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that when I did the projected starters back
Speaker 1: in April, and everyone's making their what a great Okay,
Speaker 1: they're building secondary first, Like, Okay, they're not starting right away.
Speaker 1: That's fine. That's it. That's my last one. I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe in Darnell Mooney. Um. I think is gonna
Speaker 1: get a ton of targets. I think they could be
Speaker 1: a fun team to watch seeing the way that they're
Speaker 1: handling the Roquan situation. I don't necessarily know how great
Speaker 1: the season is going to go, but I think Justin
Speaker 1: Fields and Darnell Mooney are healthy're gonna put up huge numbers.
Speaker 1: In My concern is based off of what we saw
Speaker 1: at least in this one game, and I know not
Speaker 1: everyone's on the field, but their offensive line is the disaster.
Speaker 1: I mean Chiefs had five sacks and trade or Justin
Speaker 1: Fields was running for his life all over the place,
Speaker 1: right they karl Offtis looks like he's going to canon
Speaker 1: according to this game against the Bear, right the the Bears.
Speaker 1: Like the the upside was Justin Fields made a bunch
Speaker 1: of really good plays. Uh, the downside was like every
Speaker 1: play he had to make was incredibly low percentage, like
Speaker 1: including one of the catches um By who is it
Speaker 1: taj A Sharp Who's like their number two receiver right now?
Speaker 1: It's just there's a lot going on. But I'm with
Speaker 1: you on Darnel Mooney. Two lane grad Bears are really
Speaker 1: two lane central right now with with Moon Mooney and
Speaker 1: kicker Cairo Santas. I guess that's good getting done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's great. Uh you know what's not great?
Speaker 1: Sean Kelly didn't get a lot of pop on this episode.
Speaker 1: But like I said, we might have our enthusiasm. I
Speaker 1: would just like to say the enthusiasm was absolutely off
Speaker 1: the charge once we talk football that I'll get us going.
Speaker 1: When we have to talk to each other, it should
Speaker 1: be because Sean's I just noticed you have on the
Speaker 1: Rob low like NFL hat. That's the one, and he's
Speaker 1: double here. I'm a company man. He's double lettering with
Speaker 1: the around the NFL T shirt. Not available in story,
Speaker 1: exclusive to us, not available anywhere. All right, that was fun.
Speaker 1: Dan'll be back on Wednesday. We've got a big week
Speaker 1: of shows planned. Check out Colleen and Dan. They'll have
Speaker 1: the Hard Knecks recap on Tuesday night. We're giving you
Speaker 1: guys lots of content and at this time of year,
Speaker 1: and you, guys, I hope you love it eating it up. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you, Clay, thank you for pleasure. Um. And that's it.
Speaker 1: Hit the music, Sean, hit the thing. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess in theory, I could just assume you would hit it,
Speaker 1: and that would be like more professional about to hit it.
Speaker 1: You know, at some point it's like hit it already,
Speaker 1: hit it already, and then hit the call. Right you
Speaker 1: guys ready? Yeah, Paul, Yeah, where's the energy yet? I
Speaker 1: don't respond to that? Yeah, I don't. I don't. That's
Speaker 1: not how good head coach needs to understand house players players.
Speaker 1: That's all right. Well we'll talk privately, okay, you ready,
Speaker 1: we'll not talk privately. I want that little segment um
Speaker 1: as the Easter Egg. I'm not kidding that if you
Speaker 1: were recording that little fifties we have, it is happy, good,
Speaker 1: all right now. I wanted to cut it before all that, though,