Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sinners podcast with your host. Now fun that with your
Speaker 1: low blasses, Malone. So look, but just jump right in
Speaker 1: the bullshit because it's been on my mind. Right. Would
Speaker 1: you consider yourself time a street nigga? No? Would you
Speaker 1: consider yourself a street nigga? No, they go have street
Speaker 1: smarts at a street nigga. I'm from the streets, but
Speaker 1: I'm not a street nigga. I'm definitely from the streets.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely from the motherfucker's conducting dollars and bullets, robbed
Speaker 1: all that other kind of ship. Lived in the hood,
Speaker 1: been homeless, lived in the project, from from the streets,
Speaker 1: from the streets, but I'm not you, Okay. It's a difference. So, Pete,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna say to you, because I'm
Speaker 1: not sure you quite understand the term because it's been misrepresented.
Speaker 1: A street nigga's somebody who lives by the laws of
Speaker 1: the streets. Right, Normally that's the person that's a criminal, alright,
Speaker 1: because at that point, crimes are the separation between regular
Speaker 1: civilians and people who live, you know, in the underworld.
Speaker 1: The streets is the urban underworld. Yeah, I was saying,
Speaker 1: it's a person who there's two types of people. There's
Speaker 1: people who pay attention to April and there's people who don't.
Speaker 1: My guy. Right, So a street nigga is a criminal, right,
Speaker 1: what's that the day that stuff happened in Washington? That's
Speaker 1: the tax stepline? Okay, Oh no, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I definitely that fast. I'm had to watch you. It
Speaker 1: might be some you didn't know, no what what this
Speaker 1: tax day? No, I didn't know that, that's what. I
Speaker 1: don't know that. I didn't know that that's what he
Speaker 1: was talking about. Though. That's how I know, y'all from
Speaker 1: the show. I thought he was talking about some street ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't see because because references a lot of streets ship,
Speaker 1: especially in l A on this podcasts. Even to me.
Speaker 1: Also not not the fifth because of a holiday in
Speaker 1: d C. That's also why I thought that we see
Speaker 1: you be knowing that? See I know, so, Pete. A
Speaker 1: street nigger is a criminal right individual person who lives
Speaker 1: by the laws of the streets, which includes crime. Right.
Speaker 1: A gangster right, A gang is a group of men,
Speaker 1: right who commit crimes to advance their agendas, right, who
Speaker 1: will commit crimes, So a gangster is a member of
Speaker 1: such organization. Both of them revolve around crime. Mhm. Both
Speaker 1: of them revolve around crime. Mhm. Okay, the reason Tim
Speaker 1: path I wanted you own this ship is what is
Speaker 1: it about someone who lives a square life? Now? A
Speaker 1: square is not somebody whom is a square doesn't mean punk.
Speaker 1: A square means a person who lives above legal standards, right,
Speaker 1: who who don't break laws, who live their life the
Speaker 1: way the law says they live their life. That don't
Speaker 1: mean they won't whoop your ass out in front of
Speaker 1: the store if you disrespect them. That's just not what
Speaker 1: a square means. Means You're not a criminal, live a
Speaker 1: square life style, all right, you're not breaking the law.
Speaker 1: What is going on in the urban community where squares
Speaker 1: feel like they need to be a real nigga? Like?
Speaker 1: What is going going to where out of all the
Speaker 1: haven Because you could be a real man, You could
Speaker 1: be a real father, you could be a really great
Speaker 1: employee at your job, you could be a great businessman,
Speaker 1: a real businessman, a real everything. Why what is the
Speaker 1: need to fit into this one percenter's group that they
Speaker 1: have created for their underachieving life, right, because the life
Speaker 1: that we live is a very underachieving life. Right, we
Speaker 1: have to create our own metrics of of respectable titles
Speaker 1: because at that point you have decided, right, you're going
Speaker 1: to live this type of life, So you create these
Speaker 1: terminologies real nigga, right, So a real nigga, and in
Speaker 1: it's real context, is somebody who still lives an honorable
Speaker 1: street life streets involved. To be a nigga, you gotta
Speaker 1: be a nigga. You gotta do some nigger ship to
Speaker 1: be a nigger, right, So, a real nigga is somebody
Speaker 1: who lives an honorable life within street line. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily agree with all giving you, but I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: agree with all of these definite I'm giving you because
Speaker 1: my culture created it. Yes, from the same from my brother,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, even in the streets of Chicago, this
Speaker 1: is the same thing. Yeah, but it's a lot of
Speaker 1: mother's that call themselves real and I'm sorry, real niggas,
Speaker 1: that's not committee crimes. That's the point. How then, would
Speaker 1: you call yourself a real to be a real man?
Speaker 1: Would you would? Usually? Why can't you just be a real?
Speaker 1: I would say, you'll be a real man. But I
Speaker 1: would It depends on the context though, because some people
Speaker 1: are using it as a colloquialism for as like man,
Speaker 1: they're not like like nobody, no black dude gonna like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a real dude. Like you can't just be a
Speaker 1: real man. I'm a real man. What if I don't
Speaker 1: want to say I'm a real man, but what if
Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm a real nime? Okay,
Speaker 1: people take terms. People take terms, and they're making me
Speaker 1: what they want to me. But the original context of
Speaker 1: being a real nigga did come from, like the streets.
Speaker 1: I would say, why people feel because because it looks cool,
Speaker 1: especially with the way games and publicized now, like like
Speaker 1: it looks cool, like people walk around never been to
Speaker 1: l A, don't know nothing about blood Coach, but would
Speaker 1: change best well well like well like sees the bees,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, I'm buling, like bro, you live in
Speaker 1: like fucking fucking the brand about why are you talking
Speaker 1: about you bulling? Or like all these all these things
Speaker 1: like that, or people would just take fucking k's and
Speaker 1: put seeds because it looks cool. I think people just
Speaker 1: think gang Coach. It looks cool, especially with the way
Speaker 1: that I mean, I hate to say publicized. Where's publicize?
Speaker 1: You can pick up your phone and see it. Shooting
Speaker 1: this ship looks cool until you in that situation and
Speaker 1: you've been shot at. Then that ship don't look as
Speaker 1: cool no more because your life is endangered. Give me
Speaker 1: a little bit more volume on your mike uh path,
Speaker 1: and a little bit more on your mic time, Just
Speaker 1: a little bit um but time. And this's the point
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you, Like, imagine if I walk through
Speaker 1: life right. Let's say, let's say I'm a drug dealer
Speaker 1: and I'm prescribing people crack in PCP. A right, they
Speaker 1: come to they come to fulfill the pharmaceutical orders of
Speaker 1: crack in PCP, and I'm like, yeah, real pharmacy, s
Speaker 1: my nigga, real pharmacist. I'm a pharmacist. Technically you are.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest with you because even I've heard
Speaker 1: you speak about certain interactions you've had um with people
Speaker 1: on PCP, and you say that they don't that they
Speaker 1: don't make a conscious decision to come back to get it. People.
Speaker 1: The same thing with opioid's. Like my mom has had
Speaker 1: back problems for years, and I remember when I finally
Speaker 1: gave her some CBD and she stopped taking opio or
Speaker 1: she didn't like she didn't like poop for like a
Speaker 1: whole week, like her body was in like full opioid
Speaker 1: mode at that point in time, and then that little
Speaker 1: bit of CBD, like she was like, yo, I haven't
Speaker 1: taken my pills in weeks because I haven't needed to
Speaker 1: because I put this cream on my back and now
Speaker 1: my back feels better. But when she was on opioids,
Speaker 1: she needed them, and I think it was built up
Speaker 1: on a dependency from the pharmaceutical industry. So I don't
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look at no drug dealer as
Speaker 1: differently as I look at the pharmaceutical industry. It's all
Speaker 1: the fucking same to me. Everybody want to get high, drunk,
Speaker 1: and debrid all today's state of reality. And if somebody
Speaker 1: out there got the means to fulfill that, then somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna come and place the order. And that's just really
Speaker 1: what it boils down to. It's it's unfortunate that our
Speaker 1: community has been systematically attacked with it, but let's just
Speaker 1: be real, Like people have been getting sucked up since
Speaker 1: the dawn of time, Like they think that we came
Speaker 1: here because uh, some lower form of a human noid
Speaker 1: eight a bunch of mushrooms or theories about that. So
Speaker 1: it's like we've been getting sucked up off ship forever.
Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't. I'm not blaming the drug
Speaker 1: dealer because they sell drills. Because also most things I
Speaker 1: know ain't fucking growing coke uh coco plants in their
Speaker 1: backyard in Chicago. Agreed, agreed, Um, come down on your
Speaker 1: mic a little bit, Pete, Come down on your mic
Speaker 1: just a little bit, Pete. I don't have control on it.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't. Yeah, I bypassed the zoom thing, remember, Okay? Yeah? Um?
Speaker 1: So Tom, like, do I think in theory pharmacists and
Speaker 1: the d boy does the same thing. Yes, in theory,
Speaker 1: but a pharmacist, right is a specific title related to school.
Speaker 1: It's not really just the act of handing out medicine, right.
Speaker 1: It's certain license and things right that you you know,
Speaker 1: uh preresquits, uh, certain tests, certain ideas. Motherfucker's hood chemists.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But that's why you put heat hoodibility.
Speaker 1: I only put I only put a hood on it
Speaker 1: because they ain't been in the lab. But you could
Speaker 1: probably put those same people in the lab and tell
Speaker 1: them to do the same thing, and they'd probably be
Speaker 1: still in that measuring ship out. I'm not disagreed with you,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you want a heroin addict
Speaker 1: to take your blood. I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: him to be it's not your im. Yes, we called
Speaker 1: what's it called? What's the person that takes blood? Not
Speaker 1: a heroin addict? But if a heroin? But if? But
Speaker 1: if I'm not there's a reason. It's a hierarchy. Heroin
Speaker 1: had to take my blood. But it's not like if
Speaker 1: a fucking if a motherfucker that was cooking meth. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, Yo, this motherfucker's the stupidest motherfucker when
Speaker 1: it comes to anything involving chemistry. Yeah, I gotta know
Speaker 1: some just not even a blow yourself the funk up
Speaker 1: doing that ship. But I think I'm not disagree that
Speaker 1: some of the ideas are the same. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if you would want, right a heroine's at it
Speaker 1: pre west quit right to becoming a forbotomist. Forbotomist, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want that to be years
Speaker 1: and years of shooting up heroine as a way to
Speaker 1: say he has enough experience with needles to be the
Speaker 1: person in the room to take your book. So back
Speaker 1: to the putting, putting in the blood, taking the blood out.
Speaker 1: Let's say, let's say a heroin addict is the person
Speaker 1: that gives TV test because he has experienced with veins
Speaker 1: and needles us years of experience. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that qualifies. I'm sure somewhere that I don't where somebody's
Speaker 1: clinic that exists. Here's my question. I'm just saying there,
Speaker 1: there's like a hierarchy of antibiotics, right, and that has
Speaker 1: to do with resistance, and it has to do and
Speaker 1: there's a prioritization of which ones you get in which
Speaker 1: phase of whatever it is that you need. So you
Speaker 1: don't see the exercise of deliberate market restraint with a
Speaker 1: drug dealer that you do at a pharmacy, because like,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to get how I got an infection, whatever,
Speaker 1: give me a Z pack. No, we don't. We're trying
Speaker 1: to not give out a resilience z packs because then
Speaker 1: everything has become resistant to zithermax and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: nothing beyond that but penicillin. So we're gonna give you
Speaker 1: this cheap garbage of moss of silling or whatever the hell,
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll feel better, maybe you won't go fund yourself. Okay,
Speaker 1: before agree with that, but before we get too far out.
Speaker 1: The point I'm making, right is these terminologies right that
Speaker 1: the culture created, right, this one percent of the culture
Speaker 1: created as they're achievable upper eche line right by how
Speaker 1: you proceed in life. I just don't understand why would
Speaker 1: somebody who has the opportunity to be a thousand things
Speaker 1: above the line, right, a thousand things above the line
Speaker 1: try to figure out what how to be something below
Speaker 1: the line, because that's the trick. The trick is the
Speaker 1: one percent right creates, you know, being a gangster Like
Speaker 1: I was on Instagram, right and it blew me away.
Speaker 1: I was talking to this dude. I got you, Peter.
Speaker 1: I was talking to this dude and he was somebody
Speaker 1: called a media outlet person a snitch, right, and it's
Speaker 1: a media outlet. It's literally on the media page called
Speaker 1: grind face. Shout out to the grind face, but grind face.
Speaker 1: And he was reporting on a story with his through
Speaker 1: his media outlet, and some dude got the comments and
Speaker 1: said snitchy asked nigga, and I literally responded, I said,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when squares use or been colloquialisms,
Speaker 1: like they're using street terms, right, yeah, right, And it's
Speaker 1: like and so next thing I know, I looked down
Speaker 1: at my phone in five minutes and all of these
Speaker 1: people were hitting me. And at that point you can
Speaker 1: see they were squares, right, people who lived legally, right,
Speaker 1: And it was like, what you you know, where I
Speaker 1: come from, square means you're a bitch ass nigga, and
Speaker 1: it's that's not what the squares. I'm sorry they used
Speaker 1: it incorrectly. Long story shure, we go through this whole
Speaker 1: thing where they feel like a square is a disrespectful
Speaker 1: thing to a black person, right, and it's not because
Speaker 1: there more black people are not are squares than are
Speaker 1: you know, streets or in the streets. Right. So the
Speaker 1: last thing that really irritated my soul is when this
Speaker 1: motherfucker told me I explained to do, I said, to
Speaker 1: be a gangster, you have to be in the game.
Speaker 1: He was like, that's some dumb ship. That's a dumb
Speaker 1: shitt ever heard. You don't got to be in a
Speaker 1: gang to be a gangster, and I was like to
Speaker 1: be to be on the road literally, but but I've
Speaker 1: noticed this over the years where you have people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's gangster to take care of your kids,
Speaker 1: that's being a father. You're man, oh, it's gangster to
Speaker 1: go to work and takes go to work. But I
Speaker 1: also think white people have done that, not niggas. So
Speaker 1: we have to yes, we have to do we have
Speaker 1: to we have we have to. Don't do that. It
Speaker 1: ain't no, it's irritating because like, right, you submerge yourself
Speaker 1: in this culture, right, this underworld culture of living below
Speaker 1: the legal line of life, right, because it's a risk
Speaker 1: in it, right, you risk going to prison, you risk dying,
Speaker 1: right in certain certain moments, you risk a lot of things,
Speaker 1: you know, to to reach the pinnacle that's still under
Speaker 1: the line. Right, because the ganger can't be the president.
Speaker 1: Gangs can't be you know, they don't go right, whatever
Speaker 1: the pinnacle is of regular square life. This is your line.
Speaker 1: You hit this line right here, it's still low. So
Speaker 1: I have submerge myself in this culture to the point
Speaker 1: where you know how many people I had to fight?
Speaker 1: I mean, IFO I even fought outside. I had to
Speaker 1: fight all of my homies, right, and it's not always
Speaker 1: like I can resolve things right in a very civil way. Right.
Speaker 1: I know how to talk and discuss, you know, my thoughts,
Speaker 1: but culturally where I come from, people don't really know
Speaker 1: how to use words. So you have to be able
Speaker 1: to communicate through you know, fisticuff. It's simple, like sometimes
Speaker 1: it needs to be don't question what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing. So you fight, you know,
Speaker 1: ten eleven of your homies. You got to win all
Speaker 1: the fights, right, then you got to fight everybody from
Speaker 1: these different neighbors. You got to fight them own the
Speaker 1: parts to carver parts, the pjs de Pominoes Largo. You
Speaker 1: got to fight because you got to win. Then you
Speaker 1: have to shoot guns and literally take somebody's life, like
Speaker 1: in a full attempt to to extinguish their life force. Right, Like,
Speaker 1: you have to go through this because you don't want
Speaker 1: to rematch because if you don't, and it was bad
Speaker 1: for me because I had to go out in my
Speaker 1: own car because they were literally targeting me. So you
Speaker 1: have to survive all this and then you have to
Speaker 1: deliver this punishment. Things that risk your life. You have
Speaker 1: to go to jail. I went to jail for my
Speaker 1: homie chocolate. Right. He had a scooter. He had an
Speaker 1: ounce of Sherman on the scooter. I wanted to ride
Speaker 1: his scooter to McDonald's to get some food. I was asking.
Speaker 1: He said, no, man, you can't ride. I kept asking
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, oh, you mean fun up, Let
Speaker 1: me ride your scooter. The reason he was telling me
Speaker 1: no is because he had an ounce of Sharon. But
Speaker 1: he forgot because he was in the middle of a
Speaker 1: dice game. So when I finally when he finallys like, here,
Speaker 1: man take it. So he forgot and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: So I ride the scooter as soon as I make
Speaker 1: a left off, you know, the neighborhood, and on the
Speaker 1: Whooler Brook. The police pulled me over. They had been
Speaker 1: watching us the whole time, sell Sharon. They knew who
Speaker 1: Scooter it was. They knew who Sharon it was. They
Speaker 1: wanted to arrest him, so they got me in the car.
Speaker 1: They said, little Glasses, Yeah, Mike, because at this point,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to be a real nigga, the police
Speaker 1: know who you are. You know you by name. Hey Glasses, look,
Speaker 1: you know that's not your scooter. Gonna drive back down
Speaker 1: to seven? Just point to who school is the windows tennant.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna even say nothing, but we'll let you out.
Speaker 1: You know I had to go to jail. These are
Speaker 1: the things I went through. These are the things I
Speaker 1: went through to be a real nigga. I agree, I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at it. But you said you had to
Speaker 1: do all these things. You didn't have to do all
Speaker 1: these things. You made conscious choices to do those things.
Speaker 1: That's different. I disagree with that because that's the question about.
Speaker 1: These are the reasons why they made choices to do
Speaker 1: other ship no, no time. Listen, listen. These are the
Speaker 1: conscious choices I made to be a real nigga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you could have made the same conscious I'm sorry
Speaker 1: just to be a square, but you asked why not
Speaker 1: just act like they're real niggas. That's not your because
Speaker 1: it sounds. And also you're a rapper. You helped glamorize
Speaker 1: this like thing. Time ald time, hold on, hold on, time,
Speaker 1: hold up. Just let me make my point. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the right or wrong thing. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you these are the things I went
Speaker 1: to to be referred to as a real nigga, right,
Speaker 1: because this is the life I was living. I'm not
Speaker 1: blaming nobody for choice their conscious choices. I made for purpose, right.
Speaker 1: I decided to do this and I ascended to the
Speaker 1: top of it to be a real nigga. This is
Speaker 1: what you have to go through all this silly ship.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how a nigga who feel like he
Speaker 1: don't have to go through this can literally like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one of those two. You're not one of these.
Speaker 1: It's not the same. You could be that person, could
Speaker 1: be a thousand things. I'm a real nigg because I
Speaker 1: take care of my kids. No, brother, you're a real father.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking awesome. It's pretty fucking respectable that the
Speaker 1: whole billions of people in the world. But that don't
Speaker 1: sounds cool. But even you call it people squares making,
Speaker 1: It's like you might as well call me a lame
Speaker 1: ninjy that's not a lame I'd rather just say, yoh,
Speaker 1: this is my home and he not a crimit. Also,
Speaker 1: why does lane have to be such a derogatory every time?
Speaker 1: Because that's what the funk the culture has made it.
Speaker 1: Why do we always gotta act like the culture didn't
Speaker 1: make this ship what it is? But where not niggas
Speaker 1: getting stuffed in lockers and all the other ship nigga's
Speaker 1: been peer pressured in the joining games and committing crimes
Speaker 1: for motherfucking decades, Like listen, let's not let's not act
Speaker 1: like that's not a fact. I also heard No, wait,
Speaker 1: I've also heard you and other street niggas be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: a lot of these niggas be getting tattoos and all
Speaker 1: this crazy ship on their face because they want to
Speaker 1: appear like they're hard and they're real, and they street
Speaker 1: niggas like you all have created this marketing to where
Speaker 1: like it's almost like fucking Jordan's shoes, where people look
Speaker 1: at this ship and they're like, Yo, this is cool
Speaker 1: being called a square versus being called a real nigga.
Speaker 1: Like you gotta ask yourself why these kids make the
Speaker 1: conscience choices they make. It's the it's the way that
Speaker 1: we ask people within the culture refer to other people.
Speaker 1: We had other and better names for ship, it would
Speaker 1: be cool. But once hip hop became cool and everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to become hip hop, and hip hop is the streets.
Speaker 1: As you say, it is these kids that haven't been
Speaker 1: in the streets look at this ship and be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this ship is cool. The marketing side of it is good,
Speaker 1: and like I could be a real nigga without doing
Speaker 1: all the other ship. You can't think the ship that's
Speaker 1: I agree with you, But that's not what they're thinking.
Speaker 1: They think that I can be this if I play
Speaker 1: the part. And it's not about playing the part. It's
Speaker 1: about making the conscious choices and doing the actions which
Speaker 1: you just describe that turns you from a square to
Speaker 1: a quote unquote real nigga. But I've also heard a
Speaker 1: lot of real niggas tell me that a lot of
Speaker 1: squares just wind up doing quote unquote real nigga ship
Speaker 1: because they wanted to be cool. So like, it ain't
Speaker 1: really no line, no more like the line has been
Speaker 1: blurred to me. You know, it's never been not the
Speaker 1: Internet took that ship away, and the Internet made it
Speaker 1: to where you actually can lie about who you are.
Speaker 1: That's the difference. See, at one time, right before before
Speaker 1: before the Internet, it was really hard to lie about
Speaker 1: who you were, right because you had to go out
Speaker 1: and prove it to other people. Into their face, like,
Speaker 1: that's that's the era I came from, right you You
Speaker 1: actually had to prove it to people's face. Now on
Speaker 1: the Internet you can literally take pictures, you could literally
Speaker 1: guide people and say this is my life, this is
Speaker 1: who I am. But this is the point I was
Speaker 1: making at This is my question, though, was ice Cuba square?
Speaker 1: I say this, and I say, that's not disrespectfully, right,
Speaker 1: So what kind of music was he making? The not
Speaker 1: say that's not disrespectfully to ice Cube because it's not
Speaker 1: diss it's not the most respect to say somebody else
Speaker 1: he was. But he was a square, So I'm confused.
Speaker 1: That's also part of my point. He ever say he
Speaker 1: was in a game, He didn't have to say it
Speaker 1: was a game. They was making gangster music. But but listen, listen,
Speaker 1: you could watch a Clint Eastwood film and not be
Speaker 1: a cowboy. Clint Eastwood never was a cowboy. It's difficult
Speaker 1: to be a cowboy in thee. But but but let's
Speaker 1: not act like you and being and like part taking
Speaker 1: in the life of a gangster. What you call him
Speaker 1: a square, like, it's no real he didn't. But there
Speaker 1: weren't a flood of Italian Americans trying to get made
Speaker 1: after the Godfather'll say that to me, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1: Ship they all got murdered and with the jail. That's
Speaker 1: that's another that's a subtlety of the art, and PIMPST
Speaker 1: talks about that extensively. But we'll leave that way it is.
Speaker 1: And this is my point, Like you don't see other
Speaker 1: Italians running around that live a law abiding life, and
Speaker 1: I and I and I resent what you're saying about squares.
Speaker 1: That's just not true. Like if you allow somebody to
Speaker 1: antagonize your way of life, Like the thing is a
Speaker 1: square and a street nigga can both be a bit
Speaker 1: a square and a gangster can both be a bitch
Speaker 1: ass nigga. So when you if you say somebody antagonizing
Speaker 1: you and trying to insult you by calling you a square,
Speaker 1: and you don't defend who you are, you're just a
Speaker 1: bitch as nigga and bitch as niggas. Anybody could be
Speaker 1: a bit ch as nig See, squares can never be snitches.
Speaker 1: You have to be in the underworld to be a snitch.
Speaker 1: That's the way. You just call me a civilian and
Speaker 1: called me a square to be honest, but a different
Speaker 1: made the term squares be negative. That's why, that's why
Speaker 1: these kids don't want to be called squares. You're missing
Speaker 1: my point, Like it's not I don't, but that's my
Speaker 1: that's my point. I'm just saying they don't want to
Speaker 1: be all that ship, so that that is the point
Speaker 1: of the podcast. I mean, yes, I agree, I agree
Speaker 1: with what you're saying, but I'm saying, like, you gotta
Speaker 1: look at these kids minds. They like they don't care
Speaker 1: about all of that ship because they only care about
Speaker 1: what they're being called. They're cared about. But that's my point.
Speaker 1: Exists the world where you're a fraud is worse than everything. See,
Speaker 1: a fraud is worse than everything. To to be a
Speaker 1: square and don't want to be called a square because
Speaker 1: you feel like that carries a negative connotation. You know
Speaker 1: what's even worse than that, a fraud. See, everybody can
Speaker 1: be a fraud. I would rather be called a square
Speaker 1: to be called a criminal. So because I'm not a criminal,
Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm fine. But this is my point.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it personally, Like I don't care call
Speaker 1: me a school. I don't even fuck been living my
Speaker 1: life legally doing what I'm supposed to do for years,
Speaker 1: but these kids look at it differently. And I'm the
Speaker 1: oldest brother four. I remember coming up, Me and my brothers,
Speaker 1: we grew up in the hood, but like my mom
Speaker 1: was a school teacher. We were never really in the
Speaker 1: streets like that. And then when my brother turned a teenager,
Speaker 1: he decided he wanted to go and be a quote
Speaker 1: unquote real nigga and become a street nigga. But like,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the environment that we came up in. He mean, well,
Speaker 1: I put this away. We came up in the environment,
Speaker 1: but like that's not how we were raised. So when
Speaker 1: we made a decision, it wasn't economically why he made
Speaker 1: that decision. He made that decision because he didn't quote
Speaker 1: unquote want to be looked at as a square. And
Speaker 1: even question I was telling him, like, yo, you got
Speaker 1: a decision of where your life can go, and you
Speaker 1: can choose that and you can make these decisions trying
Speaker 1: to be something you're not, or you can just be
Speaker 1: who you are and and things will work out better
Speaker 1: for you. He did what he as you question you
Speaker 1: and path, Tom, was it right outside your front door?
Speaker 1: What everything I say where you lived that when you
Speaker 1: grew at? Was it right outside your front door I
Speaker 1: lived most of my life? Yes, I can't because frost
Speaker 1: side your front door outside my front door. No, but
Speaker 1: you don't have to go far to find it. How
Speaker 1: many blocks would you have to go to find the
Speaker 1: couple blocks over the next block? Okay? How many blocks? Time?
Speaker 1: You live in anybody's territory? Oh yeah, I live in
Speaker 1: a stone territory outside I'll say this right, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: look look look check it up. I said this right
Speaker 1: all right? So growing up right when we was like
Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve, right, you would say, oh, like like
Speaker 1: anybody who lived in the area, because you was from
Speaker 1: a stone area, people will just tell you that like, okay,
Speaker 1: we stones. But then as you get older and you
Speaker 1: get more in the high school, the Niggers who were
Speaker 1: still on that was fourteen fifteen, sixteen years old. They
Speaker 1: was really still on that. But sometimes you get told
Speaker 1: that you are this because you're from a certain neighborhood.
Speaker 1: But then again, like I said, as you get older,
Speaker 1: you have an actual decision to make. But if you
Speaker 1: really want to partake in this, and I was like yeah.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing though, and I want to
Speaker 1: add to what you're saying. Culturally, you can be a stone, right.
Speaker 1: You may not be a part of the military, you know,
Speaker 1: the infantry itself, but you may not be a criminal,
Speaker 1: right culturally, like all Long Beach niggas culturally are crips.
Speaker 1: All Inglewood well say that, but all Long Beach niggas
Speaker 1: are culturally crips. A lot of my partners from Long Beach,
Speaker 1: they don't even have to actually be criminals, are from
Speaker 1: a game, they say, because they prefer blue because culturally, right,
Speaker 1: I don't have no no, But again it's it's it's unique,
Speaker 1: right because culturally you're available, but you also are not
Speaker 1: a criminal, right. So I'm not saying culturally you're not
Speaker 1: this like culturally if they're not gangsters. Culturally they grew
Speaker 1: up in the crib culture like we grew up in
Speaker 1: American culture, right, But I don't necessarily think we're proud Americans.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the g DBT culture. I agree,
Speaker 1: and I never I never really I did my family.
Speaker 1: I'm saying certain things right path even right now, or
Speaker 1: there were struggles for you to wear even out here
Speaker 1: where that doesn't even matter. It's certain things you won't
Speaker 1: do because culturally, right, this is your existence. These your friends,
Speaker 1: this is your family, certain people you knew your whole life,
Speaker 1: like y'all altogether, it's just how you go culturally. Again, Like,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets tricky, right with these terms. Um,
Speaker 1: but I do understand what you're saying. Time to the
Speaker 1: point where it's like hip hop is a simple thing
Speaker 1: that was created for people from the street, you know,
Speaker 1: that urban street world, to have representation to the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, right, because it wasn't none before that,
Speaker 1: Before hip hop, it really wasn't none. The closest you
Speaker 1: had was blacks playtation films, and that was a small
Speaker 1: little thing that really didn't focus on the cornerstone of it.
Speaker 1: Think about it. The first time you saw a movie
Speaker 1: about gangs, cripts and bloods was Colors and it's a
Speaker 1: police movie. And that movie is in n At that point,
Speaker 1: cripping and blood had been around twenty one years, so
Speaker 1: then you didn't see anything else Two Boys in the Hood, right,
Speaker 1: and then there's still very few movies about this super
Speaker 1: potent you know culture in Los Angeles. I mean, what
Speaker 1: is it South Central it's about six seven movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something that's for something that's such a transcended thing around
Speaker 1: the world as far as urban culture goes. Right, it's
Speaker 1: such a transcended like to where every state now has
Speaker 1: crips and bloods. Like I was gonna say that about Nebraska,
Speaker 1: like Tiger got shot at by the Who and all that. Braska.
Speaker 1: Gangbangers will do bad things to you. Oklahoma, Texas, it
Speaker 1: will do horrible things to you. Remember that, Remember that
Speaker 1: I got because again, for something that's been such a
Speaker 1: phenomenon right around the world, Right, there's still probably less
Speaker 1: than twenty films. Like right, gangbanging is probably more of
Speaker 1: a of an impact to the world than being a cowboy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably you know, a million cowboy flicks. Can I
Speaker 1: argue against that? Creatively and and and objectively? Yeah? Please.
Speaker 1: Every time every time we see a music video, we're
Speaker 1: watching the film like it's just I'm being honest, like
Speaker 1: like that's the that's your film right there. We didn't
Speaker 1: got a million music videos about gang banging in the
Speaker 1: streets and drug life, and and we've seen a million
Speaker 1: different perspectives of it. We've seen documentary style videos where
Speaker 1: you chief Keith, and you just in your Grandmama's house
Speaker 1: with your homies with some guns. We didn't seen the
Speaker 1: well produced videos from the Snoop Dolls and the doctors,
Speaker 1: like all of those are still films. Though that's making point,
Speaker 1: though that's my point. My point is that's the only, only,
Speaker 1: the only reason somebody like me right, not glasses, because
Speaker 1: I've been there and I've seen it, but the only
Speaker 1: way somebody in l A Would know what's going on
Speaker 1: in Chicago right with this whole like this gun epidemic, right,
Speaker 1: this drill epidemic, with kids are getting their hands on
Speaker 1: guns at unbelievably young ages eleven twelve guns that I
Speaker 1: didn't have until I was twenty. I've seen videos with
Speaker 1: Nikas holding K's and and Oozy at eleven twelve rockets
Speaker 1: in my life. My first gun I had was a
Speaker 1: twenty two that would take it was a thirty eight
Speaker 1: at sixties seventeen. I've seen videos with these dudes are
Speaker 1: carrying fully automatic weapons at twelve. So again, we're the
Speaker 1: only ones our community right, our culture, we're the only
Speaker 1: one broadcasting it to the world of what's going on
Speaker 1: our current state. So that's what made hip hop what
Speaker 1: it was. We were able and not just from you know,
Speaker 1: negative violence, but anything going on the street urban culture, right,
Speaker 1: our hip hop was responsible to display it to the
Speaker 1: world because Hollywood didn't tell the world. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you, Toime, That's why I'm saying, you're not
Speaker 1: making an argument against it. That's what we have to
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. I also think a large
Speaker 1: part of it is like it's like the cripping and
Speaker 1: blood and part of it is like it's so it's
Speaker 1: not universal, like like gang banging is everywhere, right, but
Speaker 1: cripping and blooding, or at least before kind of the
Speaker 1: explosion of hip hop culture becoming a predominant pop culture
Speaker 1: in America, like wasn't the main thing. So you get
Speaker 1: those early Boys in the Hood and all them films
Speaker 1: because like it isn't so culturally like a phenomenon and no,
Speaker 1: but like once gang banging is put on the world stage, right,
Speaker 1: then like the appeal for it, especially for like blood
Speaker 1: cript movies whatever, it's so like Mike, like like microscopic
Speaker 1: that it's hard for you to sell it to the public.
Speaker 1: Like even that guy, like the guy like slightly right,
Speaker 1: he tried to remake what I mean, what old Shakespeare
Speaker 1: play was that in Chicago Under the Guys. Yes, but
Speaker 1: also but it was a lot of money put behind it, right,
Speaker 1: but that story was so like it's not marketable to
Speaker 1: the rest of the world. And then you tell you
Speaker 1: why you're wrong. I'm trying to you why you're wrong. Completely.
Speaker 1: This is still rooted in the same racial issues, right
Speaker 1: or or oppression that created hip hop the genre itself.
Speaker 1: Right is, do you think there were more crypt and
Speaker 1: Bloods or more cowboys in America? Cry bloods? I mean,
Speaker 1: definitely more crypt and blood So then why is there
Speaker 1: one thousand cowboy films? Something that's literally been you know,
Speaker 1: this type of of right. I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: hard for us to say that though, because we're still
Speaker 1: in the moment, Like we gotta look at a lot
Speaker 1: of most lost. A lot of those cowboy films came
Speaker 1: a hundred years after the generation of like ow boys,
Speaker 1: or fifty years. Also, you gotta look at it. White
Speaker 1: people love promoting their creatures. White people love promoting their crimes,
Speaker 1: like bank robbing, train robbing was like the biggest things
Speaker 1: back in the early days of film. And what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how many do you think there's more monsters, right, or
Speaker 1: more crimes and bloods? It's it's it's less mobsters. But
Speaker 1: that's not my point. My point is like they have
Speaker 1: made it a point throughout the history of film. If
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at some of the
Speaker 1: first films, they were about white crimes, bank robbing, training robbing,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. White America is always like to glorify
Speaker 1: their crimes. We always get vilified for our crimes. So
Speaker 1: inherently it's just gonna be a different thing in terms
Speaker 1: of the marketplace. Like a white person is gonna go
Speaker 1: see Good Fellas before they go see Boys in the
Speaker 1: Hood because they rather see white crime than black crime.
Speaker 1: I don't see white people and but that that's not
Speaker 1: the point. I disagree with that, because even our crimes
Speaker 1: are looked at it's being petty crimes, like you know,
Speaker 1: this wrong way kind of you're kind of looking at
Speaker 1: the wrong way. I think people deal with stuff that's
Speaker 1: familiar with them. I think a lot of people not
Speaker 1: necessarily sleeping on our genres the films. I think they're
Speaker 1: just more familiar with the mafia films and the cowboy
Speaker 1: films and plus Cowboy films, they always like kind of
Speaker 1: a short shot, Um westrooms and the horror films typically
Speaker 1: do better than other films they I'm telling you and
Speaker 1: shout out to my my, my big brother Baddagers still
Speaker 1: just popped in. But that's my point, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you. So this goes against your argument in
Speaker 1: the first place. Right again, crime has always been, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the most popular stories taught in America, but
Speaker 1: not black crimes. That's why hip hop was an necessary
Speaker 1: uh a necessary thing. And still let me just figure
Speaker 1: you in. So the conversation we're having is about why
Speaker 1: do squares feel the need to use urban street term
Speaker 1: to define themselves when the terms themselves were created as
Speaker 1: an alternative to things that urban street people couldn't or
Speaker 1: felt they couldn't be. So they created these terms, right, um,
Speaker 1: real nigga right as a way to say so as
Speaker 1: a street nigga. Right, it's a it's a crime, right,
Speaker 1: a street nigga at somebody who lives under legal standards, Right,
Speaker 1: they'll do whatever they need to do in the crime world,
Speaker 1: right or whatever. They take justice into their own hands,
Speaker 1: whether they you know, economically or prospering but within the
Speaker 1: urban street culture, right, A real nigga, Right, it's somebody
Speaker 1: who's lived a street life honorably within the things that
Speaker 1: we find honor in. Right, you didn't tell you didn't
Speaker 1: betray your homies, right, all these things that matter within
Speaker 1: the realm. So why would somebody who could be a
Speaker 1: real father feel the need to say, well, I take
Speaker 1: care of my kids. That's real nigga ship versus hey,
Speaker 1: this is real father ship. And have made a good
Speaker 1: point about what sounds cool, right, but who does it
Speaker 1: sound cool too? Like that's my point. Like the reason
Speaker 1: hip hop is dope and I got you, Pete. The
Speaker 1: reasons open the first place, right, is because they didn't
Speaker 1: have Even though there's more crypts and bloods and g
Speaker 1: ds and beds than it ever would be mafia members
Speaker 1: or cowboys historically, they're still not twenty movies made about
Speaker 1: both coaches. Yeah, there's a hundred million cowboy flicks. There's
Speaker 1: a ton of mafia movies again because white, right, And
Speaker 1: it's it's not about just racial that's just that's like
Speaker 1: an under sales, not about negativity. It's just more white
Speaker 1: people in America, and they could relate to white characters.
Speaker 1: It's just a simple thought. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: hip hop provided that for us, Like you don't see
Speaker 1: white people who are doctors, like, yeah, I'm a monster.
Speaker 1: I'm a monster, real monster ship. I did seven surgeries today,
Speaker 1: real monsters. I also do want to say this though,
Speaker 1: I think that too many times underworld culture is to
Speaker 1: complaint it with like Black culture. And I think that
Speaker 1: Black culture was more than just underworld coature. But like
Speaker 1: some like for instance, right even when you go on Twitter, right,
Speaker 1: people are talking about, oh, like I just see things
Speaker 1: where it's like the only Black experience is like underworld poverty.
Speaker 1: And that's say in America, Like yo, that's a black
Speaker 1: experience that exists in the in the suburbs as well.
Speaker 1: But I think too many times it gets conflated as
Speaker 1: like that's the only Black experience. So I think many times,
Speaker 1: like when people when you say square peoplen't want to
Speaker 1: be referred as that because it seems like that's not
Speaker 1: in our culture. But but this this is the point,
Speaker 1: But the Black experience in America right is oppression and poverty.
Speaker 1: That's not the only one, though, bro Other than that,
Speaker 1: what would be black not to the majority of the
Speaker 1: black population, Like what would be back at that point? See,
Speaker 1: this is my argument that I was having when we
Speaker 1: was having this argument about j Cole, which I was
Speaker 1: tweaking during half of that because I listened back and
Speaker 1: was tweaking. But my argument is when you are you
Speaker 1: against his story and you say it's not hip hop,
Speaker 1: it's like his black experience is still his Black experience.
Speaker 1: Every experience, and this is coming from a person that
Speaker 1: comes to experience every urban experience is not black and streaked.
Speaker 1: Every urban experience is not streaked. Hip hop is streaked.
Speaker 1: That's the think it is streaked, Like and you can't
Speaker 1: it's hip hop. Everything black and hip hop. That's the
Speaker 1: first problem, Like we want to make everything in black
Speaker 1: hip hop. No nigga, just because you're black, that don't
Speaker 1: mean you this right. You could have, like Drake had
Speaker 1: a Jewish experience growing up. That's not to say he
Speaker 1: may have not felt any sense of oppression, So he
Speaker 1: could have had a black experience, but what he lacks
Speaker 1: is a streaked experience. Outside of that. We've seen that
Speaker 1: character in Hollywood a million times. We've seen that character.
Speaker 1: That character is well represented in mainstream America. The thing
Speaker 1: that makes hip hop in these urban colloquialisms that we're
Speaker 1: talking about right, these urban street colloquialisms, is they're underrepresented
Speaker 1: in mainstream That's what made hip hop that So I'm
Speaker 1: not arguing about j Coole being hip hop. I've always
Speaker 1: had a dilemma because it is his experience streaked. Sure,
Speaker 1: you can have a black experience. Listen, you can grow
Speaker 1: up in Beverly Hills and live just like the white folks, right,
Speaker 1: and you're still gonna feel some oppression. You might not
Speaker 1: see no sense of poverty. So you can have a
Speaker 1: black experience and Beverly Hills, but that's not a fucking
Speaker 1: hip hop experience. That's the difference. Like, you don't want
Speaker 1: to conflate necessarily. I don't think you can necessarily kick
Speaker 1: people off the hip hop community because they wasn't raised
Speaker 1: the hood, the food necessarily. It's not you don't have
Speaker 1: to get again respectives, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: think and this and this is what happened. This is
Speaker 1: why your generation sold out jazz and rock and roll
Speaker 1: y'all start doing this. No you can't, No, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can be black and be a jazz musician. Listen.
Speaker 1: You can be black, can be a rock and roll musician.
Speaker 1: You could be black and being R and B mrs.
Speaker 1: You don't have to just be hip hop because you
Speaker 1: like it. You don't have to. Just let me. Let
Speaker 1: me finish a point. I can love Hitler and I'm
Speaker 1: not a Nazi. Let me make my point. I can
Speaker 1: love Trump and not be a conservative. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I can love motherfucking e d I me and not
Speaker 1: be the lord of a country and I don't. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be that. You can just actually love
Speaker 1: the art. And that's the problem that I have with
Speaker 1: what you're doing and what people do with these urban
Speaker 1: street colloquialisms. Everybody's inflate them. Things together matter Listen. Just
Speaker 1: because you feel like they have these great impacts. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. Just because you black, don't mean you
Speaker 1: have to be hip hop. You don't have to be
Speaker 1: tell me you can't be a doctor, g can. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what my hip hop experience was. I'm older
Speaker 1: than all you guys. Um. We used to go to
Speaker 1: this thing called the pat Jam of Cleveland right when
Speaker 1: I was fifteen fourteen, and actually I was like a
Speaker 1: little probably twelve Onlines of twelve was an under eighteen club, right,
Speaker 1: um d J, Johnny O and the source of recruit.
Speaker 1: They would be up right, and we heard the early
Speaker 1: hip hop records. But at one time broke when hip
Speaker 1: hop was in this emphasy stage, when it wasn't on
Speaker 1: the poper level. You know, it was only like fifty
Speaker 1: six people in this club. Mind you, they would play
Speaker 1: these records, Dog, everybody being there breaking, But they just
Speaker 1: didn't play rap records. Dog. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: art of noise, a lot of stuff over from you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think bro when we
Speaker 1: talk about hip hop as a culture, Dog, it's a
Speaker 1: culture just doesn't encompass music. It doesn't just encompass um
Speaker 1: urban You feel what I'm saying, These urban till listen listen,
Speaker 1: It only encompasses Irby. That's the point. But now I've
Speaker 1: been seeing let me finish my point. And actually, if
Speaker 1: they were going to start making people make movies based
Speaker 1: on com on popularity, they make movies based on the
Speaker 1: subject that they think go be able to touch the masses.
Speaker 1: It's more Latin games in this country, Dog, anything else
Speaker 1: that's true. And the Yakuza like almost double sides of
Speaker 1: the crypt and bloods. Bro, No, they don't Yakus Japanese
Speaker 1: yakuza dogs like Japanese Jackkuls. The dog is more than
Speaker 1: them and they ships spanning back to centuries though, So
Speaker 1: it's rest and it's still ain't enough movies on them.
Speaker 1: But but that's what I'm saying, that a bunch of
Speaker 1: movies when you watch, when you watch on HBO right
Speaker 1: now about it? Yeah, because I grew up watching come
Speaker 1: food movies. Come food movies is real parts foods Chinese. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, no, Bro, just so fucking racist,
Speaker 1: And that's my point with you. This is maby karate
Speaker 1: movie I saw. They always had some factions. Don't have
Speaker 1: a zillion movies on the yakuza. That's just a lie.
Speaker 1: And he never even heard of y'all ever seen a
Speaker 1: rush hour? Have you ever seen rush hour? Yeah? One minute,
Speaker 1: that's the triad, that's the Chinese triad. But when racist,
Speaker 1: just racist, You can fight Chinese in Japanese. Didn't know
Speaker 1: that it was bad. But there has been a jillion
Speaker 1: movies on your You almost got killed by Yakusa member.
Speaker 1: If you see any Japanese films, Japanese related films. They
Speaker 1: have something to do with the yakuza Japan. And there
Speaker 1: was a girl smiling in still face. She thought he
Speaker 1: was so cute and still playing it cool, like he
Speaker 1: ain't given her too much attention. But she only she
Speaker 1: wanted to go where we one trying to follow us.
Speaker 1: She owned us. Man that man came out. We knew
Speaker 1: that dude had a sword. He's gonna kill us all.
Speaker 1: Side Too was definitely the yakuza. You know what he did? Dog?
Speaker 1: The first time me and I see went out there,
Speaker 1: a guy has a guy had lost twenty dollars dog
Speaker 1: when he you know, came to give you know how
Speaker 1: to give you the money and bick bump us like
Speaker 1: that one of his assistants had lost like twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: Was the quick the twenty dollars. So he played a
Speaker 1: cool man. And when we sold me and I see
Speaker 1: in the back of the van. Man in the back
Speaker 1: of the you know truck. We're going up these months
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the fun? This ain't the way
Speaker 1: to the hotel. He gets up to the mountain says,
Speaker 1: excuse me one minute. You know what? Side Too was
Speaker 1: real for life. Excuse me one minute, please, Mr Big Steele,
Speaker 1: excuse me one minute. He got the car pitched up
Speaker 1: with the dude, made him strip down, make it, shot
Speaker 1: him in both his kneecaps, dog and left him up
Speaker 1: there on the mone and we prove and he got
Speaker 1: in the car like it wasn't ship lit a cigarette
Speaker 1: and was he broke up? And a word he asked us.
Speaker 1: He was apologizing us over that twenty dollars um, apologize
Speaker 1: for the you know short shortly to the money. I'll
Speaker 1: make sure I get this to you youself, we said,
Speaker 1: don't worry about and this is right, and this is
Speaker 1: what happens when y'all do this right. And this is
Speaker 1: my issue. Even when we're doing what we're doing now,
Speaker 1: hip hop has to be street. Street is not only
Speaker 1: just prime. Being a street nigger could be a criminal,
Speaker 1: but street is a different life that you live in
Speaker 1: in that poverty, You living in that oppression together right
Speaker 1: amongst other people right that are poor. And it very
Speaker 1: much is a cultural thing, right, which I've always said
Speaker 1: to myself. J Cole lived that life. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: really careful with how I handle his legacy. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm careful. I don't just jump off that bridge and
Speaker 1: don't say it. I'm really careful cause I'm like that
Speaker 1: dude did grow up poor. If you know it's in
Speaker 1: a trailer park, that's poor as a motherfucking He's a nigga,
Speaker 1: so I know he got oppressed, and I know he
Speaker 1: had an urban street experience. But yes, you have to
Speaker 1: have an urban street experience. Bromes with you. To me,
Speaker 1: Southern California, don't even it is probably is nice over there.
Speaker 1: This is this is not beet. Being from the east
Speaker 1: side of Cleveland, when you go see niggas living with
Speaker 1: windows you have and you don't want to do, it's
Speaker 1: convinced me how poor the Midwest is and this everything
Speaker 1: is Beverly Hills compared to that ship is. Yes, I remember,
Speaker 1: I even remember the first time I went through cop
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nigga, this is comping. Y'all got grass, nigga,
Speaker 1: this is grass. But again because but also because our
Speaker 1: wealthy neighborhoods make your wealthy neighborhoods look like the slums. Facts,
Speaker 1: if you want to be are you won't see nothing
Speaker 1: like that in Chicago or Cleveland, Holly Park, Bell Air,
Speaker 1: is probably worth Cleveland altogether. Probably that's the neighborhood of
Speaker 1: bel Air. Again, so again again, So slum is all comparative, right,
Speaker 1: So yes, like I agree with you, all right. The
Speaker 1: Watts as a slum can't hold a candle to Chicago
Speaker 1: slums or Cleveland slums. But the reason it is the
Speaker 1: slums is because the slums of Chicago compared to like,
Speaker 1: like when I'm in Philadelphia, the slums in the wealthy
Speaker 1: areas don't look that much different. If you see Wats
Speaker 1: and then compared to bell Air, it looked like you
Speaker 1: live in hell, like like literally like Satan is rolling
Speaker 1: down with a pitchfork. It looks like hell. If you
Speaker 1: go where pets from or like over that area, you
Speaker 1: feel me Laguna Miguel Watts looked like deaf Nazee. If
Speaker 1: you take a dry out of State Street, bro by
Speaker 1: the time you get to it now, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different about how you get to by like thirty knife.
Speaker 1: It's a clear difference from sixty three to the South Loop.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I know because the slums there are fucked up.
Speaker 1: So any Compton make them slim. Compton looks like us,
Speaker 1: a wealthy neighborhood compared to Chicago slim, right, but again
Speaker 1: compared to bell Air. There's no bell Are and Icago.
Speaker 1: There's no bell Air in Cleveland. It's just that's ship
Speaker 1: right there. Looks like that's heaving walking. You can walk
Speaker 1: with your shoes on and you won't get your everything good.
Speaker 1: You're walking quick cleaving got some n serious, but it
Speaker 1: just looks they're not nice enough. The nice series cleaning
Speaker 1: nice ares look like Serrito's. That ship average right here,
Speaker 1: there's really another ghetto all here. Know, there is a ghetto.
Speaker 1: It's just not compared to the ghetto of Cleveland, right.
Speaker 1: But also your wealthy areas can't compare to our wealthy areas.
Speaker 1: That's the separation of oppression. You feel me when you
Speaker 1: look at wealth and you're looking at you feel me poverty.
Speaker 1: The separation how far it is like Watts as far
Speaker 1: as fun from bell Air, just like you're talking about
Speaker 1: Cleveland like Serrito's and Cleveland is probably like the best
Speaker 1: neighborhood y'all would have. No, I'm not really, it's pretty close.
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been is not nice. We there, That's
Speaker 1: just like you can say, are slums, ain't slums? You
Speaker 1: can also say, y'all, nice areas ain't nice, that ship
Speaker 1: ain't nice, that ship funked up. Well, rich people live
Speaker 1: fucked up. That she ain't write in Chicago, that rich
Speaker 1: people person tell a person from the l a slums like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you ain't really hip hop because you ain't from the
Speaker 1: real slums. I'm saying, from the slums of Cleveland, from
Speaker 1: the real slums, I'm not hip hop enough. When I
Speaker 1: first listening to bro, yes We're here, the dream Team
Speaker 1: is here. Yes We're here. That's the ship listened to
Speaker 1: in your era. Not that bullshit right there that I
Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of shiged hell gang. Oh that's
Speaker 1: the same tree. But dream l A dream Team is here,
Speaker 1: ain't sill? Generation produced the Message though, the greatest hip
Speaker 1: hop song, Yeah but y'all also produced sugar Hill Yeah,
Speaker 1: which was a sexual see bro, you have If it
Speaker 1: wasn't for sugar Hill, you might not have a glasses alone. Bro.
Speaker 1: So then don't don't talk about the l a dream
Speaker 1: Team because the dream Team is a descendant of sugar Hill,
Speaker 1: and gent your lover is descendant of sugar Hill. Same ship,
Speaker 1: just like we gave, just like gave you boys in
Speaker 1: the hood. I'm laying on something real quickly. Bro Egyptian
Speaker 1: Lover is actually more craft work and stuff like that
Speaker 1: is actually a Thans derivative. Dog dance is a dance.
Speaker 1: Is a part of hip hop culture. Dog So you know,
Speaker 1: really what we need to hip hop, We're needing another
Speaker 1: mc hammer. To be honest with you, I think we've
Speaker 1: got way too many gangs to wrapper mc hamp It's
Speaker 1: not just about Look, hip hop is not just gangs
Speaker 1: to wrap that ship is ridiculous to even say it.
Speaker 1: The reason it is highlighted so much is because it
Speaker 1: is the urbanist street experience that makes hip hop the
Speaker 1: most exclusive than compared to every other genre. And it's
Speaker 1: easy just the fabric kid as well, because that's not rapper.
Speaker 1: This stop stop doing represent I had when I was
Speaker 1: that if you was a gang banker on the sun.
Speaker 1: God damn it. Everybody's making this story though they running around.
Speaker 1: It's not about the rapper though it's not. Hip hops
Speaker 1: ain't about the rapper. It's not about the specific rapper.
Speaker 1: The story is real. That's the difference. Still, like y'all
Speaker 1: spend too much time and people in today's time spent
Speaker 1: too much time trying to define if the rapper is
Speaker 1: telling his real story versus is it a real story. So, yes,
Speaker 1: summer vacation didn't have to be ice c I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. He's a perfect example and
Speaker 1: you make my point, and they don't have to be
Speaker 1: his story. He's telling the story of the ship that
Speaker 1: l A Niggas was going through. But but my, but,
Speaker 1: my question again with the ice Cube thing is if
Speaker 1: you call him a square, how can he be a
Speaker 1: square and be a gangster at the same time. He's
Speaker 1: not a he's not a criminal. He makes gangster rap music.
Speaker 1: Fucking uh, fucking up Martin Scorsese, guy, But what's that?
Speaker 1: But yeah, but but my question different. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not a racist white man who uses the N word obsessively.
Speaker 1: What the hell do you mean? This is entertainment still,
Speaker 1: So they're talking about street urban stories and that's what
Speaker 1: they're so does J Cole. But you're telling me that
Speaker 1: that don't necessarily tell you J Cole don't tell street
Speaker 1: urban stories. I disagree with that. He know he's talking
Speaker 1: about his Twitter. Listen to his album for it, The
Speaker 1: Whole Story Aboulbum, Street Stuff, exactly. No, not even on
Speaker 1: that one. I'm talking about the one that nobody really
Speaker 1: listened to, the one wire you're talking about folding the whole?
Speaker 1: Was that the one with neighbors? But the whole album?
Speaker 1: But the whole album is best friend who got locked up?
Speaker 1: That I don't. I think I've told you a thousand times.
Speaker 1: J Cole was always a hard one. But I do
Speaker 1: treat him as a hip hop artist. I do feel
Speaker 1: what he's doing, but I'm saying he has a lot
Speaker 1: of terms and weird things right at times that made
Speaker 1: me be like, why would you be arguing with some
Speaker 1: lady on Twitter? I agree, I agree, and making a
Speaker 1: rap about it. I also still think he's hip hop still,
Speaker 1: but I'm not. And we got all of the squares
Speaker 1: that made gangster music, I'm not again. Listen, anybody can
Speaker 1: make gangster music that don't make you a gangster? Does
Speaker 1: that make you a real nigga? If you make gangs
Speaker 1: of music? No, it makes you a fucking rapper. So
Speaker 1: can you still be a square and make gangs of music? Yeah, nigga?
Speaker 1: But do you think it's okay? But how but how
Speaker 1: can you make gangs of music when the whole premise
Speaker 1: of making Gangs of music is about being a real nigga.
Speaker 1: But that's not the that's not the premise. It's being
Speaker 1: a rapper right, as a storyteller telling stories about the
Speaker 1: urban community that you come from. The message don't have
Speaker 1: to be Mellie melling them's story. It could be the
Speaker 1: story of their next door neighbor. You don't. It's somebody
Speaker 1: expressing the stories of what's going on in our community.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not looking listen. I think a square
Speaker 1: looks for authenticity from a rapper, because as a gangster,
Speaker 1: I don't look from it from a rapper. I don't
Speaker 1: care Rick Ross actually didn't know Noriega personally fucking care
Speaker 1: his ship, Jam, I'm not sitting around. I think a
Speaker 1: square feels the need to to to to live vicariously
Speaker 1: through other human beings, right, especially when they feel like
Speaker 1: they're doing something that's not normal. But I'm not mad
Speaker 1: that Rick Ross is not Rick I know Rick Ross,
Speaker 1: so I know he's not Rick Ross. I know fucking
Speaker 1: Rick Ross. So what I'm saying is Rick Ross. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's his music. Good does it represence in
Speaker 1: Tales of Miami? Does it make me feel like the
Speaker 1: urban streets of Miami. He does that pretty good. Jay
Speaker 1: Z makes me do I think jay Z talking about
Speaker 1: selling Dope Dog like he was George Young? Is he
Speaker 1: George Young? No? Back and again, it don't matter to
Speaker 1: me whether he exaggerated said ninety two or it was
Speaker 1: nine point two. I get regardless. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the point of the story. Like the point of my
Speaker 1: point though, like many ship hop stories aren't authentic, but
Speaker 1: they represent quote unquote real nigga. Coach, know that. What
Speaker 1: do you mean? The stories are authentic. There are niggas
Speaker 1: from what the fund their stories though, that's not you
Speaker 1: don't have to be it's not authentic. It's not your story.
Speaker 1: Don't matter, that's not. Every history book is not an autobiography.
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be. But if you're telling
Speaker 1: me you're a real nigga and your music, I'm a
Speaker 1: real to be a real nigga. No, this is the point.
Speaker 1: And you get mad at the kids for like for
Speaker 1: like assimilating with this culture that isn't because you're not
Speaker 1: a rapper with the rappers doing it, So stop being
Speaker 1: a follower. What do you expect from hip hop culture.
Speaker 1: This is for people to be a follower. And if
Speaker 1: you think that's okay for people to be a follower,
Speaker 1: something is wrong with you. The reality of life that
Speaker 1: people are followers to inherit what he's what he's saying
Speaker 1: is it's okay to be a frauds okay to be
Speaker 1: That's what you asking me. This is the question asking
Speaker 1: as listen, you're asking me as Ice Cuba fraud. No,
Speaker 1: let me make my point. You asking me does he
Speaker 1: live the stories? And I'm telling you that's not his job.
Speaker 1: He's a rapper. His job is to tell the stories.
Speaker 1: Quick question. Sure there's a difference, or how do you
Speaker 1: perceive the difference rather between somebody who is attempting to
Speaker 1: speak in the first person versus somebody who is telling
Speaker 1: a story that is obviously not them, but it is
Speaker 1: speaking through the first person. As a listener, you gotta
Speaker 1: kind of be able to discern the one from the other,
Speaker 1: you know, listen. So as a society where we at,
Speaker 1: I think you obviously are correct. The world is for
Speaker 1: alls and literally followers. They don't they're intellectually lazy. They
Speaker 1: don't want to formulate their own opinion. They want to
Speaker 1: take the simplest opinion that you can get there fast,
Speaker 1: and that's what they're gonna rung with, right. But I
Speaker 1: think the thing that comes down to it is we
Speaker 1: need to stop paying attention, to stop worrying who the
Speaker 1: funk the messenger is, and get the message. I think
Speaker 1: that's your problem with the Bible in any other book.
Speaker 1: Read the book. Don't worry about what nobody else telling you,
Speaker 1: don't worry about what nobody else saying. Get the wisdom
Speaker 1: from the written words when you listen to ice Cube
Speaker 1: my summer vacation. And this is maybe because I have
Speaker 1: lived my own life of it, right, I've been out
Speaker 1: of town selling drums. I know what it's really like.
Speaker 1: So I'm not worried. If ice Q is telling his story,
Speaker 1: he telling my motherfucking story. And that's what he does. Great,
Speaker 1: that's his job as a fucking rapper, to tell urban
Speaker 1: street tales of Los Angeles, come ups or falls, that's
Speaker 1: his fucking job. If ice C was living these stories,
Speaker 1: ice Q wouldn't be a rapper. He'd be a d boy.
Speaker 1: When jay Z was doing that, he was a d boy.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a rapper. And guess what he transitioned and
Speaker 1: he became a rapper. I don't really know how you
Speaker 1: can say that when you just told me that that
Speaker 1: he that. When I asked you, was he a square
Speaker 1: before he was a rapper? You told me he was.
Speaker 1: How can you automatically assume he would turn into a
Speaker 1: d boy if he was a person that was going
Speaker 1: to college, looking out for himself, working towards his education.
Speaker 1: How can you automatically make that assumption. That's part of
Speaker 1: my Yes, that's part of he said if he But
Speaker 1: if you say if, But what I'm saying is at
Speaker 1: that point in time before, like right when he was
Speaker 1: getting ready, before the n w AT trajector, he was
Speaker 1: going to college. Am I writer wrong? No? He was sixteens. Huh,
Speaker 1: he was going to Arizona. He was going to I'm
Speaker 1: telling you was going to school. I just want to
Speaker 1: taft And then he went, I'm telling you. N w
Speaker 1: A started when Q was in high school. But that's
Speaker 1: not my point. My point is when they were reaching
Speaker 1: the group, he was in college. He was in college
Speaker 1: when they took off. That's not he's still in college.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. If he was a drug dealer,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been a rapper. He'd have been a
Speaker 1: drug dealer, but he wasn't. He was a rapper. He
Speaker 1: was a rapper. Yes, literally, he has been a rapper
Speaker 1: since high school. He was innocent successful group when it
Speaker 1: started to pop. He blew when he was in college
Speaker 1: when it blew up. He's a rapper. Culturally, he's a
Speaker 1: nigga from one eleven. He grew up in the one
Speaker 1: eleven community. He's gonna wear more blue than red. Culturally.
Speaker 1: It's not a claim. You don't make no claim. That's
Speaker 1: my point. He don't claim anything. He's making rap songs.
Speaker 1: You don't hear it when ice Cu talk. He's talking
Speaker 1: about politics and Trump. That's when he's talking. You don't
Speaker 1: hear him in any of you Like, Yeah'm a real nigga.
Speaker 1: I was out here, I did ten years in prison.
Speaker 1: He's not lying. He's making rap music and you're formulating
Speaker 1: your opinion based off the rap music he's making. It's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. I'm saying his stories are valid,
Speaker 1: whether they're his stories, they're not. There's someone else's stories.
Speaker 1: That's his job, and he does it better than of
Speaker 1: the people that's ever done this. It's like if jay
Speaker 1: Z told this, It's like if j Cole told the
Speaker 1: story right of a dope ass nigga, that was a
Speaker 1: hustler nigga from Carolina's right. He told that story. He's
Speaker 1: supposed to, that urban streets story. That's the point. That's
Speaker 1: what rappers used to do. If you've seen them the
Speaker 1: TV show Snowfall, right, if you see Snowfall, there's the
Speaker 1: rappers telling the story of the community. That's what rappers did.
Speaker 1: He was telling off sting him, got this going on,
Speaker 1: and this person did this. That's what rapping is. That's
Speaker 1: what hip hop is. Is it a fair consideration to
Speaker 1: look at the time frame when I as Cube's career
Speaker 1: really became what it was and and hit critical masks
Speaker 1: that there wasn't really a lot of it wasn't I
Speaker 1: want to say it pret was that. Maybe it's too
Speaker 1: strong of a word, but it wasn't a you know,
Speaker 1: preponderate behavior for guys to come up and say, I
Speaker 1: don't know his life, but it seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: Jeez ain't really all the ship that Jeez rap about.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe his name is not whatever, but a
Speaker 1: guy like that experienced those things. See, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with your experiences, and there's nothing wrong with rapping about
Speaker 1: other people's experience. Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what most people do. Every every
Speaker 1: story I know, for THEMN, sure, every song I wrote,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna have this. I've talked about what I've seen.
Speaker 1: And the difference is I don't have to see I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that don't make my rap better to steals.
Speaker 1: It's who is displaying the story correctly and that the
Speaker 1: audience could grab. But like you see rappers where one
Speaker 1: guy and again it's not a perfect example, it's just
Speaker 1: a hypothetical example. I'm trying to draw a parallel to right,
Speaker 1: Let's say hypothetically that Jesus a way better rapper than Gucci,
Speaker 1: and Gucci wants to eat up Jesus market, you know
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's gonna say, oh, yeah, well I'm
Speaker 1: the real deal and he is not, so therefore I'm
Speaker 1: better and whatever. So you see a little bit of
Speaker 1: a conflict among rappers were one guy's not really with
Speaker 1: the ship and was rapping better than the guy who is,
Speaker 1: but they're trying to use that as a value comparison.
Speaker 1: To compensate for a talent comparison or whatever. Is the
Speaker 1: same happens with this real nigga square covering. But again
Speaker 1: again don't make it right, but that's what happens though.
Speaker 1: That's my whole points Again, somebody got to prove that
Speaker 1: they hard or you. Basically this is that. And this
Speaker 1: is my point where you making it the blame of
Speaker 1: somebody who literally is celebrating their culture, Like it's your
Speaker 1: fault because you celebrating your culture. It's not. It's your
Speaker 1: fault for not celebrating who you are, your fault as
Speaker 1: a human being. It's nothing wrong with people that come
Speaker 1: from our world. Listen celebrating. Hey, you know what, I
Speaker 1: did this the honorable way, as honorable as you could
Speaker 1: do this in the streets. I did it for me.
Speaker 1: This is the pinnacle of where I've came to as
Speaker 1: a man, and I celebrated, right. Gangster rap is not
Speaker 1: about killing people. Gangster rappers about doing what it takes
Speaker 1: to survive to like, the weirdest audience is satillar. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just about people dying. No, it's about I killed
Speaker 1: this nigga to live. There's no serial killers and gangster rap.
Speaker 1: They don't hear no nigga rapping about. That's a lie.
Speaker 1: That is a motherfu serial killing. Chicago history is serial
Speaker 1: killers out here with that, and they wrap what's rapper
Speaker 1: Chicago as a serial killer as a rapper. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that, but I know I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this is gonna be my problem
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have right now. It's not for me
Speaker 1: to say, don't reference gang shootings as mass shootings. That's
Speaker 1: not what the mass shooting is. I didn't say mas shooting.
Speaker 1: This is This is the point where I'm saying serial killer.
Speaker 1: Let me make my point. Nigga, hold up, I got you.
Speaker 1: I'm just breaking it down because right now what's happening
Speaker 1: is the same gentrification that's happening with niggas, with urban
Speaker 1: street colloquialisms, is happening with main stream American ideas where
Speaker 1: gang shootings are being called mass shootings, they're not mas shooting.
Speaker 1: It's different. A mass shooting is for no fucking reason.
Speaker 1: A serial killer kills for the thought of just killing.
Speaker 1: He don't kill enemies. It's just literally like Hitler is
Speaker 1: not a serial killer. He's not he literally is a
Speaker 1: a he doesn't. He's a mass murderer. It's a difference.
Speaker 1: A serial killer is different. Like you know who is
Speaker 1: in Chicaward. That was a serial killer, gay Cy. He
Speaker 1: just killed niggas because it was Thursday. It was no reason.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a g D killing the b D. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a g D killing the folk. It was serial killer.
Speaker 1: A person who only has to kill three people to
Speaker 1: be qualified. That's my point. I'm not with them qualifications.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of gang bangers. That's serial killing. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry they do it for Tom Tom a bunch of
Speaker 1: gamers not don't gentrify these words. It's really important that
Speaker 1: the words. I'm from the place I have people that
Speaker 1: have got killed and I'm not saying it. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you literally, I'm telling them they are not gang bangers. Tom.
Speaker 1: They thought in a mistake. They didn't just kill them
Speaker 1: because it was toolsday. They killed the nigga because the
Speaker 1: nigger was outside. That ain't got shipped to do with,
Speaker 1: because they really thought he was something. I think nigga
Speaker 1: was just outside and they're like that are talking about
Speaker 1: if you think that they're that there's what probably five
Speaker 1: hundred to a thousand individual committers of homicide in that
Speaker 1: space nationwide a year. If you think that there are
Speaker 1: none of them that are out there doing that for
Speaker 1: some other reason than dire self defense, you're lying to
Speaker 1: yourself out. That's not the problem. Not my point. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you the mass majority of them, right, I think
Speaker 1: it's for some sense of greater good or war. Right,
Speaker 1: it's literally wars between communities. I had a prime example.
Speaker 1: I had a homie who was a serial killer. Right now,
Speaker 1: I have other homies as killers, but they're not him.
Speaker 1: This nigga. This nigga did killed because that's just his thing.
Speaker 1: He killed people that had nothing to do with gang bagging.
Speaker 1: He didn't mistake him for game. He killed kids, older people,
Speaker 1: he didn't even know that. Nigga is a serial killer.
Speaker 1: A nigga who come through shooting in the opposite community
Speaker 1: thinking he's hitting enemies and ops. He could be stupid,
Speaker 1: But a serial killer is a different far cry. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying out of the five hundred a thousand,
Speaker 1: some of them are not just driven by the thought
Speaker 1: of killing anybody. But what we're not gonna do is
Speaker 1: keep gentrifying words to make everybody feel comfortable. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gentrifying it because I think killers in hip hop.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not real killers in hip hop,
Speaker 1: trial killers. I said there are serial killers. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you there probably would be none. I'm telling you there's
Speaker 1: no rapper. That rapper killing little kids and killing old ladies.
Speaker 1: They're killing motherfucker's at the highest level. There's no job,
Speaker 1: there's no gay c's and fucking hip hop. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: celebrate it, all right. We don't celebrate gay c all right,
Speaker 1: we don't celebrate gay right now, that's a black serial killer.
Speaker 1: He's the biggest serial killer in America. You niggas don't
Speaker 1: even know who he is. They're not gonna make no moan,
Speaker 1: no pass. We on your ass. Don't get caught up
Speaker 1: with your son because we're at war. Because we're at war,
Speaker 1: so at that point, anybody with you is a fucking victim.
Speaker 1: Like America when they bombed these whole towns and moss,
Speaker 1: it's on its own. It's different when I kill your son,
Speaker 1: and I don't have no problem what you are your son.
Speaker 1: I just need to kill a baby. There are there
Speaker 1: are no gazes in hip hop, and if you in
Speaker 1: a problem, there have there have been. There are no
Speaker 1: gazes in hip hop. There are no gay I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that there hasn't been idea, but there are no
Speaker 1: gazes in hip hop. They're just not. We don't celebrate it.
Speaker 1: Do y'all know who is the biggest serial killer? You
Speaker 1: know he's a black man, right, the Graham Sleeper. Y'all
Speaker 1: know about him. You know why we don't. Nigga came
Speaker 1: out rapping like, yeah, I'm just killing prostitutes. That's my thing.
Speaker 1: I'm wrapped about killing prostitute. He is not gonna be celebrated.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna see a thirteen records to us. We're
Speaker 1: not working with that. You know what we funck with
Speaker 1: with gagster rappers. We funk with niggas who brag about surviving.
Speaker 1: We bragg about niggas. We nigga who brag about doing
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to survive. Nigga, I will do this
Speaker 1: to this nigga, this thing and this to live. Not
Speaker 1: just because the Thursday you're killing niggas because it's Friday. No, nigga,
Speaker 1: we have war them communities in Chicago been that war
Speaker 1: for years, for years, for years. So now, nigga, when
Speaker 1: I go through your neighborhood and if I think somebody
Speaker 1: from the military, I'm popping them, that's not a serial killer.
Speaker 1: A serial killer is gaycy out of Chicago, a nigga
Speaker 1: who was working with the mayor killing everybody, fourteen year
Speaker 1: old kids for no reason. Fifteen like I'll kill you
Speaker 1: all because I just want to kill you after you
Speaker 1: rape you at the raping men. That's a serial fucking killer.
Speaker 1: That's no read, that's a serious stop jet And that's
Speaker 1: the point of the that damn podcast. You gentrifying words, gentrified,
Speaker 1: gentrifying words. Because just because just because you have war,
Speaker 1: don't mean you can't turn into a serial killer. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you can't, but I'm telling you, at war
Speaker 1: you can't turn to a serial killer. But serial killers
Speaker 1: don't got nothing to do with war, nothing to do
Speaker 1: with war. They are in a war against humanity. Killers
Speaker 1: We don't. I'll tell you a couple when we get
Speaker 1: off a bro you don't know, no goddamn serial killer.
Speaker 1: Still he would have killed your stupid ass. You know
Speaker 1: the reason I haven't got cues. I'm not stupid. I
Speaker 1: don't partake under that nig she's talking about what you
Speaker 1: mean you think you think them people that kill partake
Speaker 1: this something partaking question? Are you a real nigger? Are
Speaker 1: you a square me? Or what? First of all, I don't,
Speaker 1: you don't. I'm a black man, and I'm sure and
Speaker 1: proud of it. He's a he's a law of bloody citizens.
Speaker 1: I'm a low biden citizen and stand up of household
Speaker 1: and I'm the criminal had do all the crime for you,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to tell me because I know
Speaker 1: it needs to be done. I tell you this though.
Speaker 1: If somebody come in my house, I lay their ass down.
Speaker 1: That's within your legal rights. If somebody is um violating
Speaker 1: my space, my area, my wife, my children, Lady, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm proud of. If somebody is threatening me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take that threat serious and I'm going to do
Speaker 1: whatever it's necessary to eliminate that threat. But I don't
Speaker 1: water the courts trying. I'm not. I'm not. You've got
Speaker 1: some doping the cart. Only fight me from the run.
Speaker 1: If you've got some bullshit going on from involve me
Speaker 1: in because I'm gonna tell you I don't live that life.
Speaker 1: If these police pull us over, and you've got some
Speaker 1: ship in the correctly ain't talking about. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you five minutes to correct this ship. And I'm gonna say, officer,
Speaker 1: this ship is not mine. Ride with this nigga. I
Speaker 1: can get off the car right now. I'm going about
Speaker 1: my way. You're supposed to, that's your fucking that's what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. And I love being it because
Speaker 1: you know what, man being black in America. And I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm from the hood. I'm from the crime. Yes,
Speaker 1: I grew up fighting and stabbing niggas and all that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. We've been indoctrinated, man, to
Speaker 1: this bullshit doctrine that we have to behave in a
Speaker 1: certain way. I don't subscribe a guy here. You go,
Speaker 1: always always signed some way, hate on other niggas. That's
Speaker 1: what I can't stand. You are not in got Your
Speaker 1: daddy would not to stop you. Gotta stop being a
Speaker 1: follower and don't blame people because they tell you you
Speaker 1: have been indoctornated to be a fucking cowboy. You're gonna
Speaker 1: watch the thus of Cowboy movie. Never got you know,
Speaker 1: fucking horse, You was in doctor need to be a cowboy,
Speaker 1: but you ain't on a fucking horse. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you listen to hip hop, you gotta be what they is? Well,
Speaker 1: why you ain't everything else you watch? Why you ain't
Speaker 1: Eddie Wis? Why ain't cow boy? Why are you not
Speaker 1: Philip Hustable? You was in doctorated with that? Because I'm
Speaker 1: go to school? Watch you watch more episodes? Are married
Speaker 1: with you? Why you ain't married with children? Because you ain't?
Speaker 1: No Bundy? Because it ain't cool? You know why? It
Speaker 1: ain't cool too? It ain't cool to us. That's the
Speaker 1: point cool. I'm fine with that. But guess what a
Speaker 1: lot of them cool as motherfucker's the king of me.
Speaker 1: And that's my point. So that's the point. The point
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, don't blame niggas from my culture. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's your all for. No, it's your following ask for
Speaker 1: because you ain't that. You said no, no, you have it,
Speaker 1: No we have have you got a game? N No.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, what's the validator's fault? And
Speaker 1: we all know who it is. We have so much
Speaker 1: you got I'm gonna tell you this. You got that,
Speaker 1: don't gang bang and see I participated in crimes low
Speaker 1: yet low, the lowest of kids. It's their fault. Yes,
Speaker 1: let me let me land on something real quick, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. You have guys that aren't gangsters.
Speaker 1: They don't have nothing to do with the world of crime.
Speaker 1: If somebody punch their mom and the mouth, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it. Ain't saying nothing. Police come and say that
Speaker 1: this man hit your mom and the mouth and shoot
Speaker 1: your mama. No, I ain't singing nothing. I ain't snitching. Man.
Speaker 1: He put the tell that motherfucker because this same motherfucker,
Speaker 1: the same dumb mass nigger, he gona retaliate against this
Speaker 1: guy and do something to him. Police gonna come back
Speaker 1: to him. And I thought you said you didn't know
Speaker 1: who it was. Now this is my point still, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. We're gonna get off this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you everybody go. And That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you. Tom. Look, Peter, may I think Peter
Speaker 1: wanted to say something of people say it every time
Speaker 1: he's about to say something to put them off, because
Speaker 1: I know for sure who blame. He blaming the women
Speaker 1: it's science. I'm giving you a science that I'll give
Speaker 1: you some scientific fact that it's demonstrable by by laboratory.
Speaker 1: You know. Ship Listen, I'm saying, listen, I understand the
Speaker 1: pressures right of other people that come up in urban
Speaker 1: street territories, right to to to see it, right people
Speaker 1: who are squares to feel that these are the celebrated
Speaker 1: terms within our community, right, because that's what it is
Speaker 1: in our community, whether you're square or not, if you
Speaker 1: grow up the way we grow up, one of the
Speaker 1: achievable and honorable things to be as a real nigger
Speaker 1: right even where you're from, even though you're not criminals
Speaker 1: or don't believe in the in the law, you know,
Speaker 1: in the in the world of crime, that's not your thing,
Speaker 1: But being a real nigga is the same thing in
Speaker 1: our community, in your community, right because we pour that's
Speaker 1: still only one percent of the population. So if you
Speaker 1: feel like somewhere time where you're like, I need to
Speaker 1: be a real nigga, you know what, I'd be okay
Speaker 1: with that, because you know what, you came up the
Speaker 1: way I came up with, and I wouldn't look at
Speaker 1: you funny if somehow you made your situation better in
Speaker 1: your life, right with your family, because you came for
Speaker 1: where I came from, so you can use that time
Speaker 1: be a real nigga man, whether you did a crime
Speaker 1: or not. N you being the streets, I would say that.
Speaker 1: You didn't say that earlier. Now I'm bringing clarity because
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about people that grew up that's still
Speaker 1: only one. You know how a few ghettos it is
Speaker 1: in America, It's a very few. It's not people that
Speaker 1: come from where we come from. That's not I'm not
Speaker 1: talking to Patty for Patty saying I actually wrapping Pavy
Speaker 1: a real nigga. I would say that, and I know
Speaker 1: Patty don't commit crimes because Patty came up the way
Speaker 1: we came up and changed to his life and didn't
Speaker 1: get in right and figure out a way to stay
Speaker 1: that from our community. That's still only one percent of
Speaker 1: the population. It ain't enough ghettos for all these niggas
Speaker 1: to be lying about them trying to be real niggas.
Speaker 1: Most of them didn't come up in our and still
Speaker 1: said he's a real I tell people, and still a
Speaker 1: real niggas still ain't committing no goddamn crimes because that
Speaker 1: nigga came from the slums of Cleveland and got his
Speaker 1: son to the NFL draft. Up to this point, I
Speaker 1: respect that from our community, right, So yes, he's from
Speaker 1: our little, small little thing, our small little thing. But
Speaker 1: that don't mean every motherfucker on Instagram who didn't come
Speaker 1: up this way gotta feel like they need to beat
Speaker 1: this because they listen to rap records. I don't care
Speaker 1: how many fucking cowboy movies I watch. I don't want
Speaker 1: to ride a horse and be a cowboy. I don't
Speaker 1: care how many motherfucking movies I watched. All these other niggas.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that, even the karate ship
Speaker 1: that's celebrated in our community, everything, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be that. Now you give them this context, though, Bro,
Speaker 1: what you're saying now makes a lot of sense. No problem,
Speaker 1: it's not context. Now you're feeling now, you feel included.
Speaker 1: So you're like, it's cool, I'm included. That's because I
Speaker 1: told you earlier. I don't care about being included in that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking to. Don't mean. I'm talking still specific.
Speaker 1: And the fact is our issue of black people is
Speaker 1: the concept of inclusion. We feel like everybody need to
Speaker 1: be included. I need to be involved. No, you don't
Speaker 1: walked this way. If that ain't your path, walked this way,
Speaker 1: you don't need and hold up and you don't got
Speaker 1: to include everybody. You don't got to include everybody. Still
Speaker 1: I do. Everybody black got to be this. Everybody black
Speaker 1: ain't live in Beverly Hills. Everybody black can't. Everybody black
Speaker 1: can't do a thousand things. But it's everybody black can't do.
Speaker 1: But niggas get this urban urban streets. Not even niggas
Speaker 1: the urban streets get this one little thing. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing they got, the only thing they got outside
Speaker 1: of they got prison in death, the only thing they got.
Speaker 1: Or I could be a part of it too, even
Speaker 1: though I'm black and such. No you can't. You could
Speaker 1: just be a fucking rapper, and that's fucking good enough.
Speaker 1: I will issue I will issue rapped this warning now
Speaker 1: if we not careful with our ship, the same thing
Speaker 1: that happened to Rock and roll. No, it's not my
Speaker 1: fault because you're trying to make everybody a fucking serial killer.
Speaker 1: Everybody not a fucking serial killer. Everybody's serial killer. Niggas.
Speaker 1: Everybody niggas is killing niggas for no purpose, and now
Speaker 1: they're serial killers too. Niggas in the middle of a war,
Speaker 1: fucked up on doping, poor and they're killing each other
Speaker 1: because literally they have war. And you're comparing that to
Speaker 1: gay Cy, who killed niggas just because they are alive.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a rape you would kill you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tie you up on, gonna fuck you in the
Speaker 1: clown suit. That is not the same comparing them to
Speaker 1: gay Cy. I never said serial kill. No, now you're
Speaker 1: generalizing terms. I didn't say that. I said there are
Speaker 1: serial killers that are rappers, or that you're saying that
Speaker 1: the nigga come through the community right with another warring community.
Speaker 1: I sho want to happen. If you if you shoot
Speaker 1: up a house full of people, what the fund is
Speaker 1: your goal? Is it a house full of niggas that's
Speaker 1: from somewhere. I don't want to hear that. If you
Speaker 1: shoot up a house full of people, you don't know
Speaker 1: who's in that motherfucker? What the fund is your goal?
Speaker 1: Is it a house full of niggas? That's weef. That's
Speaker 1: not what I asked you shoot? What are you talking
Speaker 1: about I didn't been in houses that the mid shot
Speaker 1: up before, and I ain't had ship to do with it.
Speaker 1: If you are in the house, you have somebody else
Speaker 1: house and ask them to do with it. It don't matter.
Speaker 1: It matters. You don't get your ass out. The mix
Speaker 1: already over here with us right now. If you go
Speaker 1: party and Ukrane, you take your stupid ass, you crane,
Speaker 1: youll me I can't go to And they got a
Speaker 1: club in Ukraine and they're in the water Russia, you
Speaker 1: might get your stupid as killed. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear that. Oh, I bet you don't want to here.
Speaker 1: I bet you want to take your ask you crane.
Speaker 1: I don't you got a hood, ain't always I would
Speaker 1: keep it all the way. If you know what they're bullshit,
Speaker 1: I'm not linking mass I don't you know. I'm not
Speaker 1: a niggah family been on bulls. You never know when
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to take you asked, had plenty of
Speaker 1: cars that I knew I was shouldn't have been in
Speaker 1: the like y'all. If you take your aster Ukraine while
Speaker 1: they're in the middleval War Russia and you see them
Speaker 1: putting their work you see these draw bis, you take
Speaker 1: your after part of me agoing. We don't know what
Speaker 1: Dick is tripping. Bro oh A matter of fact, I'm tripping.
Speaker 1: Hold up, No Sailors. Last is Malone, my Nika, Peter
Speaker 1: boss I gotta go to got the hoops and Bruis
Speaker 1: in the spot, my big brother Big Still and fuck
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