Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to Behind the Bastards, the podcast where I
Speaker 1: brag about how much better the weather is right now
Speaker 1: where I am than where Jamie is. Somehow this podcast
Speaker 1: has gotten five episodes. Yeah, what an incredible What an
Speaker 1: incredible thing for a friend to do. You know, actually,
Speaker 1: I do think that all of my friends regularly do
Speaker 1: brag about the superiority of their climate, and I don't
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Well, everyone used to say that, brag about
Speaker 1: how nice it was in southern California, but then we
Speaker 1: killed the planet. Yeah, I I missed that era. I've
Speaker 1: only lived in the dystopia in June gloom all that
Speaker 1: was the time. Yeah, what is June gloom? Oh, that's
Speaker 1: when you would get like a little bit, like a
Speaker 1: week or two a cool weather in June. It would
Speaker 1: be like no, would be like almost the whole month
Speaker 1: of June. It would be gray and it would be
Speaker 1: like in the sixties. It was lovely. It was like
Speaker 1: my entire life until you know, the planet a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Yeah, when I when I moved to
Speaker 1: l A, it was in like June, and I had
Speaker 1: I left Texas where it was like hot. I drove
Speaker 1: through Phoenix where it was unlivable for human beings. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I get to Los Angeles and in Culver City,
Speaker 1: it was like the first three weeks I was there
Speaker 1: was like sixty eight at the height of every day
Speaker 1: and like partly cloudy, which is perfect. Um. But then
Speaker 1: we killed the planet. Um. And you know specifically who
Speaker 1: killed the planet, Jamie loftus were we gonna, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: We're gonna pit this on h blots full stock. Helena
Speaker 1: Blavatsky is responsible. Industry doesn't help blot. Yeah, she's not,
Speaker 1: but she is responsible for World War two. Um. And
Speaker 1: that's today's story. Um. So in she leaves New York
Speaker 1: for eventually Bombay, India. Right, they stopped in England along
Speaker 1: the way, they set up some some theosophical offices. Everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna yell at me about migrates from the US to
Speaker 1: the UK, But she's the only one that continues east
Speaker 1: from there, so I'm interested in what happens. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: she winds up in Bombay. Um, and she eventually moves
Speaker 1: on from from there a little bit. But yeah, Blovotsky
Speaker 1: and Ola Um bring basically like kind of frame it
Speaker 1: us like we are returning like traditional Hindu and Buddhist
Speaker 1: beliefs to India by like setting up the Theosophical Society
Speaker 1: here um. So eventually she yeah, they landed in Bombay
Speaker 1: and they partner with an organization, an organization called the
Speaker 1: Ardia Samaj Movement which had been founded a few years
Speaker 1: earlier by a guy named Swammy Saraswati, who was a
Speaker 1: Hindu holy man who was really angry about the Christianization
Speaker 1: of his country because the British bringing missionaries right who
Speaker 1: are trying to recruit people to be Christians. So there
Speaker 1: is a lot of there's actually a lot of folks
Speaker 1: in India who like what Blovotsky is saying and doing,
Speaker 1: even though like because one of the things I think
Speaker 1: that is worth understanding about Hinduism is that it is
Speaker 1: not it is not a religion with the kind of
Speaker 1: strict doctrine that you get in a lot of like
Speaker 1: Christian religions, where it's like no, this is like, I
Speaker 1: having spent a lot of time in India, one of
Speaker 1: the fun experiences you have there is when you like
Speaker 1: are eating with with Indian folks and like just asking
Speaker 1: them about like rama and see it and all these
Speaker 1: like different um um gods and goddesses and mythical stories
Speaker 1: and stuff. Every time you add, like if different groups
Speaker 1: of people are telling you the same story, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different every time, right, because there's all these
Speaker 1: different like variations. And that's one of the things that's
Speaker 1: like so neat about UM talking to people in that
Speaker 1: part of the world about religion, and so there's not
Speaker 1: there's not as much of a you would expect maybe
Speaker 1: kind of a backlash, but instead it's more people happy
Speaker 1: that like, oh, these Westerners actually like our religion and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're interpreting it in weird ways and I hadn't
Speaker 1: heard that or that, but like even interest, Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're coming here to engage with our religion rather than
Speaker 1: to vertus to theirs, which is like people like that, right,
Speaker 1: Like of course they like that, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: it's a perfectly understandable thing. Um. And this guy, Sara Swatty,
Speaker 1: he wants to push his people back to their like
Speaker 1: traditional spiritual beliefs and not the ship the British we're
Speaker 1: peddling and Blovotsky and old caught. They're basically trying to
Speaker 1: de Christianize the West and bring the vetas there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: this is actually pretty popular. Like it's not that like
Speaker 1: a lot of Indians don't become theosophus, but like there's
Speaker 1: there's people like in the country who are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a nice trend to see. Um, So the
Speaker 1: society does grow around the world. There's something like a
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty offices around the world by the time
Speaker 1: she dies. Um. Like it spreads and in a manner
Speaker 1: that's not why. Again, there's a lot of similarities between
Speaker 1: theosophy and scientology, not in terms of the belief system,
Speaker 1: because number one much less of a toxic thing, like
Speaker 1: and she is a less toxic person than l Ron Hubbard.
Speaker 1: I will give her credit for that. Yeah, that's incredibly hard. Second,
Speaker 1: but the theosophical theosophy in general is not like it
Speaker 1: is not like scientology. It is not based entirely around
Speaker 1: abuse and like secrets and violence. Um, but it does
Speaker 1: the way that it spreads it there's a lot of
Speaker 1: similarities between how science because because Hubbard is looking at
Speaker 1: Blovotsky and her example when he's setting up his secret
Speaker 1: society religion thing, it is kind of well to see
Speaker 1: that like ripple effect of like Blotski is essentially asking, like,
Speaker 1: can I do spiritualism but worse? And then l Ron
Speaker 1: Hubbard's like, can I do theosophy amongst other things but worse?
Speaker 1: And then you just spiral out from there. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so that's cool, uh, Blovotsky and launch a journal, The Theosophist,
Speaker 1: And she continues to orchestrate control over the movement by
Speaker 1: having her master's send letters to Olcott and others. Particularly
Speaker 1: there will be like high ranking Indian late in terms
Speaker 1: of like their their position in society, like Indian folks,
Speaker 1: people with money, and like high ranking British colonial administrators
Speaker 1: who will come by and like be interested in what
Speaker 1: she's talking out, and she'll have her master's reach out
Speaker 1: to them. Um. Sometimes when she's feeling lazy and in
Speaker 1: an argument with someone, she'll just claim that they've contacted
Speaker 1: her telepathically directly to like in an argument like no
Speaker 1: could whomy just like d mned me man, and like
Speaker 1: you're wrong. You've gotta stop saying this shows it's pretty funny, uh.
Speaker 1: Stawazinski continues quote. The masters soon began exchanging correspondence through Blovotsky,
Speaker 1: of course, with an Englishman living in Indian named Alfred
Speaker 1: Percy Sinnett. Sennett was a writer and editor in chief
Speaker 1: of The Pioneer, an English daily newspaper. Soon after Blovotski's
Speaker 1: arrival in India, he became an avid theosophist. In ten
Speaker 1: eighty two, he published a book consisting of his correspondence
Speaker 1: with Master kut Whomi. Soon after the books released, a
Speaker 1: gentleman named Richard Kittle publicly accused Master kut Whomie of plagiarism.
Speaker 1: Kittle insisted that the Great Mahatma for copied large parts
Speaker 1: of his book published a few years earlier. In response,
Speaker 1: Madame Blovotsky released a letter written by the Master, in
Speaker 1: which could whom he helped to explain the misunderstanding. It
Speaker 1: was not an act of deliberate plagiarism, wrote Mahatma, but
Speaker 1: a result of overlapping astral planes. One day, kut Whomie
Speaker 1: was reading the Chronicle of the Universe, which contains all
Speaker 1: of the information that ever existed. The Master came across
Speaker 1: Kittle's text there among billions of others, and failed to
Speaker 1: identify it. Now, this is the same argument Elon Musk
Speaker 1: makes when he steals people's names on Twitter. How so
Speaker 1: even we've been recording to this episode for five hours
Speaker 1: and you just really wanted to say that, didn't you did?
Speaker 1: It is really funny papers. We'll talk a little more
Speaker 1: about them later. The Mahatma papers like a huge moment
Speaker 1: in theosophy where like these they it's it's basically kind
Speaker 1: of like the sill Marillion of theosophy, h boy, but
Speaker 1: it's a huge amount of it is plagiarized by Richard
Speaker 1: Kittle because she's a place like all she's doing is
Speaker 1: taking other people stuf and rewriting it, and she gets
Speaker 1: kind of lazy, and then when she gets called on,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is kut whom he's fault. He
Speaker 1: fucked up because he was just like all of the
Speaker 1: books that have ever existed or will leveler exists, are
Speaker 1: like word on the astral Plane, and he was just
Speaker 1: like reading it and like failed to he didn't see
Speaker 1: like the name on the side when he was like
Speaker 1: sending it to me. Um, it's pretty funny. It's pretty funny,
Speaker 1: fucking wild. Yeah, he did. He did. He did the
Speaker 1: occult equivalent of like copy pasting a Wikipedia page to
Speaker 1: like turn an essay in like the great Kudomi and
Speaker 1: uh and got away well, I mean I guess it
Speaker 1: was accused of planes that, yes, it does. We will
Speaker 1: talk about that about it. But initially the rapid growth
Speaker 1: of the faith and the constant flood of attention. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is these are like the big cracks that
Speaker 1: start to form, right, So it's as quickly as things
Speaker 1: go well for them, ship starts to go badly because
Speaker 1: she is I think she's fundamentally kind of lazy, right,
Speaker 1: Like this is a lazy fun up. I mean it
Speaker 1: does sound like it's funny. I do feel like this
Speaker 1: is like a very interesting personality type that has existed
Speaker 1: in various forms, but like someone who has andless energy
Speaker 1: to self promote but no energy for original thought, which
Speaker 1: is like why And it's it's interesting because we've talked
Speaker 1: about all of the tricks that she does. We're not
Speaker 1: going to get into now we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: how she did them. And it's also really lazy, um
Speaker 1: like we're it's it's it's much much like less effortful
Speaker 1: than you. And that's and and that's what like part
Speaker 1: of what I find fastinating like whatever, like societal ship
Speaker 1: aside about the like physical mediums is like the amount
Speaker 1: of effort people like the Katie King thing, like for
Speaker 1: for the it took a lot of work. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of work to make like that happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't something. But she was not putting in hours.
Speaker 1: No other people are though, so yeah. So in her
Speaker 1: two most again she's like basically in order to trick
Speaker 1: people with these you know, they're dropping the letter, they're
Speaker 1: doing all these other tricks, she has followers who are
Speaker 1: helping her carry them out. And in India, the two
Speaker 1: people who are doing this the most are a couple
Speaker 1: who we've talked about briefly, Emma and Alex Colombe like
Speaker 1: c O U l O m b um. They're married
Speaker 1: and coffee Yeah, like the coffee Um. She had met
Speaker 1: them back in Cairo in eighteen seventy one, if you remember,
Speaker 1: she had that like failed spiritual society back then. So
Speaker 1: she gets to know them then and they kind of
Speaker 1: stay in contact for years, and by the time she
Speaker 1: moves to India and sets up shop, they've gotten themselves
Speaker 1: stranded in Sri Lanka. Um and Blovotsky paid them to
Speaker 1: like paid to bring them to Bombay and she gives
Speaker 1: them jobs in the society. Um. And at first they're
Speaker 1: like kind of her indentured servants to like work off
Speaker 1: this debt. They're cooking and they're cleaning, um. And because
Speaker 1: they owe her and like don't really have many other options,
Speaker 1: she starts in listening them to help her carry out
Speaker 1: tricks on people, um, to raise more money for the society.
Speaker 1: A contemporary source literally like carnival tactics. Oh yes, yes, um.
Speaker 1: A contemporary source who like eventually gets this information because
Speaker 1: like the Colomb's break from her. We'll talk about that in
Speaker 1: in a bit, Reverend George Patterson writes. Quote. Readers of
Speaker 1: the Occult World, which is a popular magazine at the time,
Speaker 1: are familiar with phenomena in which Madame Blovotsky's cigarettes and
Speaker 1: cigarette papers play an important part in the presence of
Speaker 1: the inquiring company. A cigarette or a cigarette paper is
Speaker 1: peculiarly marked or torn across so as to be recognizable again.
Speaker 1: It is then dispatched by the agency of a cult
Speaker 1: forces to some distant place, and the inquirers are told
Speaker 1: will they will find it? Telegraphic communication renders the verification
Speaker 1: of the exploit easy, so she will like be sitting
Speaker 1: in a room full of people to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to prove to you this ship's real. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna telepathically send this cigarette to England. Right, so she'll
Speaker 1: market or something, and then she'll she'll like disappear it
Speaker 1: a little slight a hand thing, and then she'll telegraph like,
Speaker 1: whoever it is in England, who was like in on
Speaker 1: the mark with her, and be like, hey, did you
Speaker 1: what did you like? Look behind the look around, look
Speaker 1: behind the bust of this philosopher in your library, and
Speaker 1: they'll like, oh, I found a cigarette that's ripped in
Speaker 1: this way. And everyone will be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she teleported the cigarette, you know. Okay, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that that is not an effortless you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: not effortless. But it's also she is not the primary
Speaker 1: source of effort on that, right. There's a lot of delegating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is interesting though, that's I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of Yeah, she's making like all of the really successful
Speaker 1: occult gurus, she's making the most of like cutting edge
Speaker 1: technology at the time. Um. Now, thanks to letters later
Speaker 1: revealed between Bolovotsky and the Colomb's, we know exactly how
Speaker 1: this trick was achieved, and one letter she complains that
Speaker 1: a half cigarette that had been left behind to be
Speaker 1: found by a theosophist named Captain Maitland and India had
Speaker 1: been like cleaned up by a servant or something, and
Speaker 1: so when he was telegrammed to like when they telegram
Speaker 1: to tell him like where to find it, it wasn't
Speaker 1: there because one of his servants had cleaned it up
Speaker 1: um and Bolovotsky was enraged. She wrote back to the
Speaker 1: Colomb's quote, I am sorry for it for Captain Maitland
Speaker 1: as a theosophist and spent money over it. They want
Speaker 1: to tear the cigarette paper in two and keep one half,
Speaker 1: and I will choose the same pieces with the exception
Speaker 1: of the Prince's statue for our enemies. Watch and see
Speaker 1: the cigarette fall and destroy it and close an envelope
Speaker 1: with a cigarette paper in it. I will drop another
Speaker 1: half of a cigarette behind the Queen's head where I
Speaker 1: dropped my hair the same day or Saturday. And yes,
Speaker 1: she would also drop bits of her hair behind like
Speaker 1: things to be like look the hair was like it
Speaker 1: was teleported by by me or my master's to like
Speaker 1: show favor to you, so you can give us money.
Speaker 1: Those little physical confirmations that you're powerful spiritual being is
Speaker 1: always kind of like a freaky This is unrelated, but
Speaker 1: every time do you ever think about how resput And
Speaker 1: filled his walls with hair? What? No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: It's something I don't actually, I mean, it may not
Speaker 1: be true. It's a fact that I learned in high
Speaker 1: school in a class that I took that was that
Speaker 1: like a house that Rasputant had lived in at some point,
Speaker 1: it like the height of his power. After he had died,
Speaker 1: they were like demolishing the house and the walls were
Speaker 1: full of human hair. You mean Rasputin ra ra rasp,
Speaker 1: lover of the Russian MP that one. Yeah, okay, cats
Speaker 1: who really was gone? Who really liked filling his walls
Speaker 1: with hair? I have not heard that. I hope it's true. Though.
Speaker 1: I hope it's true too, because anytime someone said, well,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, anytime I hear uh, you know, any
Speaker 1: time I hear about a hair related occult thing, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: like the Rasputin's hair walls. Yeah, yeah, I mean, woms
Speaker 1: among us doesn't stuff human hair into our walls as
Speaker 1: a hobby. Well, me, for one but keeps me young,
Speaker 1: keeps me young. So yeah, exactly, it's like jogging. So
Speaker 1: another one of her cons was to have a letter
Speaker 1: materialized in the air above a mark and flower. Again,
Speaker 1: it will be like set up in like a ceiling
Speaker 1: fan or something, so it like falls from the sky.
Speaker 1: Um And of course these would be We've talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot, filled with instructions from kut Umie or
Speaker 1: Master Maria. In another letter she wrote to the Colomb's
Speaker 1: ahead of a visit with two wealthy theosophists, she told them, quote,
Speaker 1: my dear friends, and the name of Heaven, do not
Speaker 1: think that I have forgotten you. I have not even
Speaker 1: time to read. That is all. We are in the
Speaker 1: greatest crisis, and I must not lose my head. I
Speaker 1: cannot and dare not write anything to you. But you
Speaker 1: must understand that it is absolutely necessary that something should
Speaker 1: happen in Bombay while I am here. Uh these two,
Speaker 1: the two well like rich marks, must see one of
Speaker 1: the brothers and receive a visit from him, the brothers
Speaker 1: being her Master and kut Whomie, And if possible, the
Speaker 1: first must receive a letter which I shall send. But
Speaker 1: to see them the Brothers is still more necessary. The
Speaker 1: letter must fall on his head like the first, and
Speaker 1: I am begging kut Whomie to send it to him.
Speaker 1: We must strike while the iron is hot. Act independently
Speaker 1: of me, but in the habits and customs of the Brothers.
Speaker 1: If something should happen in Bombay, that would make all
Speaker 1: the world talk. It would be grand. But what the
Speaker 1: brothers are inexorable. Oh dear Mr Colombe, save the situation
Speaker 1: and do what they ask you. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty like clear what she's doing, right, Like Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean that's and it is. I mean it does
Speaker 1: sound like pretty duration all too. I think it's like
Speaker 1: part of what makes impressive. It is like the same
Speaker 1: fee are coming back and back and back, and you know,
Speaker 1: you've to keep them interested to keep the money going.
Speaker 1: You gotta every you gotta keep giving them these bits
Speaker 1: of personal connection with Master Maria and Kudahumie. That's what
Speaker 1: they want and that's what they're paying for. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: also I feel like it's what because like like this
Speaker 1: was like formed in like or at least with spirituals
Speaker 1: have formed in like out of a distaste for like
Speaker 1: the amount of like shame and rejection that comes with
Speaker 1: Christian religion, so that so much of this kind of
Speaker 1: ship is built around like confirmation and affirming things you
Speaker 1: already believe. But that but that creates this whole pressure
Speaker 1: of like, because I am claiming my religion is backed
Speaker 1: by science, I have to have things go and go
Speaker 1: and go in increasingly big and impressive ways in a
Speaker 1: way that is just like completely unsustainable. So that's that's
Speaker 1: that's fascinating to hear that she's using such elaborate tactics
Speaker 1: to kind of keep that up. It is also funny
Speaker 1: the first like line to line of that sound just
Speaker 1: like a Democratic Party fundraising letter. We are in the
Speaker 1: greatest crisis. I haven't had time to breathe. I must
Speaker 1: not lose my head myself. Please help an email. So
Speaker 1: other letters she sent during her travels in India make
Speaker 1: it clear exactly how these summonings were handled logistically. Everyone
Speaker 1: here is madly anxious to see something. I shall write
Speaker 1: you from Amratsar Lahore. My hair will do well in
Speaker 1: the old Tower of Zion. But you should put it
Speaker 1: in an envelope, a sachet of some peculiar kind, and
Speaker 1: hang it while you where you hide it, or even
Speaker 1: in Bombay, select a good spot and write to me
Speaker 1: at Amrothsar and then after the first month to Lahore.
Speaker 1: So she's like been saying, ahead of me, go set
Speaker 1: up tricks and tell me where they are, so I
Speaker 1: can go into some guy's house and be like you
Speaker 1: check behind the bureau. There's a thing for you from
Speaker 1: It's a lock of my own hair. You know, I
Speaker 1: teleported it to you. That's like, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: she's kind of doing her own thing at this point.
Speaker 1: She's definitely yeah, yeah, like that the hair stuff. This
Speaker 1: is not like this is her stuff from across the ocean,
Speaker 1: is not should I have encountered before. But she's doing
Speaker 1: I mean, this is closer to just like elaborate magic tricks. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: she is doing elaborate magic. Yes, yes, well, and again
Speaker 1: she is an occultist. She's not a spiritualist, right, like
Speaker 1: the spirituals didn't really do stuff like this, um so.
Speaker 1: One of Blovotsky's favorite tricks involved a shrine to kut
Speaker 1: Whomi in the Theosophical Society's headquarters. It had locking doors
Speaker 1: and it was like against a wall, so on a
Speaker 1: wet regular basis, they'd open the shrine, people could like
Speaker 1: pray to the Master burn and since give him their
Speaker 1: requests in the form of letters um, which would be
Speaker 1: like teleported to him into Bet. But the shrine had
Speaker 1: a secret back door built into it so that when
Speaker 1: it was locked, a society, remember, could like add things
Speaker 1: to the case. So periodically when they were guests, they
Speaker 1: would like have tea and someone would break a saucer
Speaker 1: or a teacup or even a kettle, right, and then
Speaker 1: they would take the pieces as a demonstration of whom
Speaker 1: he's power. They put them in the shrine and they'd
Speaker 1: lock it, and when they open it, a brand new
Speaker 1: one would be sitting magically right, Yeah, sent from Tibet. Yes, um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good use of That's that's like what I
Speaker 1: love about. What a good use of someone's energy and
Speaker 1: time to fix a plate, to make a to make
Speaker 1: a point again, they're never using these magical powers to
Speaker 1: like stop genocide and the congo that's going on in
Speaker 1: this period or like, yes, solve any of these mass
Speaker 1: like any problems. It's just like shipped teacup. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got that ship. Yeah, could think the civil war going
Speaker 1: on in China that's killing tens of millions of people,
Speaker 1: could whom he does not have that ship, but like
Speaker 1: could whom he's got this saucer he's gonna fix. But
Speaker 1: but one fictional character, that's right, solve that sort of
Speaker 1: systemic issue. So in one of her letters to the
Speaker 1: Cologn's planning this con the saucer con, Blovotsky made it
Speaker 1: clear what she thought I've been that, I mean, Jamie
Speaker 1: on a on a somewhat related note, we should we
Speaker 1: should do something in Roswell at some point, but um oh,
Speaker 1: there's a podcast there. There's just gonna be a day
Speaker 1: where you can text me meet me at Roswell and
Speaker 1: then I'll be like, all right, it's the day and
Speaker 1: everything is canceled and I'm getting on a bus. Yeah, yeah, Sophie,
Speaker 1: turn off the podcasts, Jamie and I gotta go to Roswell. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, all right, we'll make we'll make this happen.
Speaker 1: Um yeah. So in one of her letters to the columns,
Speaker 1: Blovotsky made it clear what she thought about these people
Speaker 1: who are again thought these are supposed to be her
Speaker 1: followers that she's inducting into the mysteries she wrote, try
Speaker 1: if you think that it is Try if you think
Speaker 1: that it is going to be a success to have
Speaker 1: a larger audience than our domestic imbeciles. Only it is
Speaker 1: well worth the trouble. She's literally talking about like this,
Speaker 1: this this saucer card, like if you if you're going
Speaker 1: to if you think that you can pull this off,
Speaker 1: try to get more people in there than just like
Speaker 1: the normal idiots that we have around. Like, I mean
Speaker 1: that is she does have a good way of laser
Speaker 1: focusing on, like how to make things appear more credible. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's she's like my followers, Uh, let's not talk about
Speaker 1: their intelligence level. It's low. Now obviously it was. This
Speaker 1: was a boring time, right, Like there's not much going
Speaker 1: on in the world. That's a big part of why
Speaker 1: spiritualism as a success and occultism is a success. People
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot to fill their days. They
Speaker 1: hadn't invented Twitter yet, unfortunately, tragically, I mean, they're I
Speaker 1: politely disagree. That's fine people, it's easier to impress people
Speaker 1: with ship, but even so, it all gets old after
Speaker 1: a while, right, you can only do these cons many
Speaker 1: times you're like, oh, another lock of your hair in
Speaker 1: my house hooray. So yeah, they've gott like she's gotta
Speaker 1: try new things on a pretty regular basis um. And
Speaker 1: the sheer volume of letters that her master sent out
Speaker 1: eventually made some folks ask can I can I like
Speaker 1: see kut Whomie? Can he like come over? Can I
Speaker 1: see master? More manifestation? This is what always always happens.
Speaker 1: We are we are in Bombay, to beet's not that
Speaker 1: far compared to how far to bet normally is from
Speaker 1: our asses, right like? Can we not? And they can?
Speaker 1: They can teleport like they're supposedly teleporting around handing letters
Speaker 1: to people. Can I not like I've given you so
Speaker 1: much money? Can I like see these guys? Um? Pretty
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Speaker 1: that has been that has been wrenched open by the pride,
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Speaker 1: It heals the broken spaces and our souls. That's what
Speaker 1: these products do. And if you don't and if you
Speaker 1: don't like them, tweet at at I right okay on Twitter? Wow, wow, brave. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't check Twitter anymore. I won't, I won't. I
Speaker 1: won't see you. That's why I told that was the
Speaker 1: inside joke that you spoiled. Yeah, well spoil these ads
Speaker 1: and we're back. We're talking about how blovotsky um. You
Speaker 1: know people who started asking can we see these fucking
Speaker 1: masters that you're that are always giving us orders and stuff.
Speaker 1: This is a very typical trajectory. But but I think
Speaker 1: she really fucks herself over by implying that he's not
Speaker 1: local but not not far away but not all that
Speaker 1: far right right, I mean to bet is you know,
Speaker 1: far from Bombay but not usually spiritless will normally um
Speaker 1: play it, I think much smarter and say that their
Speaker 1: guides are dead. They cannot they cannot come through. That
Speaker 1: is definitely a downside to what she's doing. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: so in order to like trick people, Imma Colombe claims
Speaker 1: would later claim that Blovotsky had her construct a puppet quote. Later,
Speaker 1: in one of her good moods, Madame Blovotsky called me
Speaker 1: up and told me, see, if you can make a
Speaker 1: head of human size and place it on the divan,
Speaker 1: pointing to a sofa in her room, and merely put
Speaker 1: a sheet around it, it would have a magic effect
Speaker 1: by moonlight. What can this mean? I wondered, But knowing
Speaker 1: how disagreeable she could make herself if she was stroked
Speaker 1: on the wrong side, I complied with her wish. She
Speaker 1: cut a paper pattern of the face I was to make,
Speaker 1: which I still have on this I cut the precious
Speaker 1: lineaments of the beloved Master. But to my shame, I
Speaker 1: must say that after all my trouble of cutting, sewing
Speaker 1: and stuffing, Madam said that it looked like an old jew.
Speaker 1: I suppose she meant Shylock, which is like a racist
Speaker 1: caricature of Jewish people. Madam, with a graceful touch here
Speaker 1: and there of her painting brush, gave it a little
Speaker 1: better appearance. So they make this fake head to be
Speaker 1: Master kud homie um And yeah, I see that are
Speaker 1: my question? Are there photographs of this? Because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of fun pictures from the second wave of
Speaker 1: spiritualism of things like you're describing, like paper mache like,
Speaker 1: but if they're backlit and picked pitch dark, looks enough
Speaker 1: like a human silhouette that people would would really be
Speaker 1: convinced by them. But then you see a flash photograph
Speaker 1: taken of them, and you're like, oh, dear, that is
Speaker 1: a pile of still wet paper machee. Um, let's see,
Speaker 1: can we find there's definitely like portraits of him that
Speaker 1: some German guy did which he looks like Jesus um.
Speaker 1: And again he's he's he's supposed to be like a
Speaker 1: Tibetan ancient mystic, but also he's like but still looks
Speaker 1: like well, I think he's kind of supposed to be
Speaker 1: like a member of I'm not a cute hoomie expert,
Speaker 1: a coute homologist they called them. But I think he's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, um, you know, one of these
Speaker 1: master race type people. And so obviously he looks like
Speaker 1: a white dude. Um. But yeah, I have not found
Speaker 1: this head. But yeah, next she uh Emma explains like
Speaker 1: the purpose the doll played in their their little con quote.
Speaker 1: The doll plays the greatest part in these operations, and
Speaker 1: as I have already explained, it is carried on somebody's head,
Speaker 1: but at times it is placed on the top of
Speaker 1: a long bamboo and raised to show that it is
Speaker 1: an astral body. But when the doll has not been
Speaker 1: at hand, even a white cloth wrapped around the person
Speaker 1: who was to perform the Mahatma was at times used
Speaker 1: and answered the purpose and then would do this to
Speaker 1: like have him deposit letters and like he's like kind
Speaker 1: of wave basically at people, like you give you a
Speaker 1: second of like seeing kut Whomie before he disappears. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be much right. You do it
Speaker 1: at night, you do it from a distance, you know,
Speaker 1: he drops off a thing and he goes, and then
Speaker 1: someone's like, no, I saw kut Whomi. He like graced
Speaker 1: us with his his presence. He's real. Um. Now, obviously,
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm reading all of this to you, Jamie, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not inducted into the mysteries of Theosophy UM means
Speaker 1: that it got out, which means that the Cologne decided
Speaker 1: to tell everybody, which gets us to one of the
Speaker 1: more infamous moments in Theosophist history. Well, I'm very so
Speaker 1: wait sorry, what year are we in right now? This
Speaker 1: is like eighteen seventy eighteen eighty somewhere like around that period. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got a date in there a little later. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is so this this moment in Theosophus
Speaker 1: history is called the Colomba fair. The gist of it
Speaker 1: is that eventually the Colombs had a falling out with Blovotsky. Um.
Speaker 1: They threatened to blackmail her, and she had them kicked
Speaker 1: out of the religion and their positions, and in the
Speaker 1: drama that followed, they took all these letters that she'd
Speaker 1: been they've been sending back and forth that out laid
Speaker 1: out all of the cons they were pulling, um, and
Speaker 1: they gave them to some loot local Christians who had
Speaker 1: beef with Theosophy. So Theosopus will always be like, well,
Speaker 1: they were concluded, you can't trust the Cologns and like
Speaker 1: these these Christians had like a reason to want to
Speaker 1: damage the church. But it's like it also it all
Speaker 1: adds up, and they had a lot of letters that
Speaker 1: were definitely from Blovotsky and other people talk about variations
Speaker 1: of these cons like it's just it's very clear what happened, right, sure, man?
Speaker 1: That is that is always um, that's one of my
Speaker 1: that's always a fun source of dramatic tension when the
Speaker 1: when the assistant goes rogue. Yes, yes, and and and that.
Speaker 1: I mean it happens because she's mean, like she's shitty
Speaker 1: to work. That's the thing that's and that's always why
Speaker 1: it happens. It's because either you're not being compensated or
Speaker 1: treated well. So leader, I promise, when we're living on
Speaker 1: a cult compound fighting the f d A, I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna be rude to my followers. I may ask you
Speaker 1: to die for me and a holy wold against the
Speaker 1: Food and Drug Administration, but in a nice way, politely.
Speaker 1: But oh but in a like a friendly kind of way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like in that documentary Wild Wild Country, those people seem nice.
Speaker 1: I don't think they did an anything wrong. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I it's been a couple of years. I've only seen
Speaker 1: I've seen about five hundred cult documentaries since then. So
Speaker 1: I'll agree with your characterization of that. Why not it
Speaker 1: seemed fun. Yeah, let's just move right past, and everyone
Speaker 1: on Reddit will have no issue with what I've just said. Um,
Speaker 1: compromising positions. Look if okay, let who okay, show hands,
Speaker 1: who has not poisoned a bunch of people in Antelope, Oregon?
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, I don't. I don't see any not
Speaker 1: any hands in the air. That's right, we all do it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's like lying to you know, a raal
Speaker 1: going with this. I'm going to Antelope, Oregon to a right.
Speaker 1: How about you go back to your script. Calm down, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I just get gets me excited about this stuff. Fussy
Speaker 1: so fussy. On a Friday afternoon, there's this all of
Speaker 1: this info comes out and these Christians start writing a
Speaker 1: bunch of articles with like publishing the letters, and it's
Speaker 1: a big embarrassment, right, a big deal for the Theosophus community.
Speaker 1: Does a lot of damage to them, especially in India.
Speaker 1: And one of the upsides of this whole weird affair
Speaker 1: is that Blovotsky's room at the headquarters is inspected by
Speaker 1: other Theosophists and they find hidden doors and passages built
Speaker 1: into her room to allow her to like sneak around
Speaker 1: and leave ship and like do her spirit stuff. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. So that's like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: the room has been specifically like rigged for this sort
Speaker 1: of thing that is always so interesting to hear about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that rocks, that's fun that's funny to me. I was
Speaker 1: interested in like whether I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's all these cases of like even when the big
Speaker 1: public figure is exposed, like with scientology or with spiritualism
Speaker 1: at different times, that there are so many believers at
Speaker 1: this point that no one even cares and they're like,
Speaker 1: there's an excuse. But people take it seriously here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do. And you know what I take seriously Jamie
Speaker 1: just reading this next paragraph. Right, So, the reveal of
Speaker 1: her private letters led to a precipitous decline in the
Speaker 1: fortunes of the Theosophical Society. But what finally forced Bolotsky
Speaker 1: out of India was a controversy over the release of
Speaker 1: the Mahatma letters. And these are those the series of
Speaker 1: letters of kut Humi and Maria that they sent to
Speaker 1: this English author ap sentate that turned out to be
Speaker 1: totally plagiarized by another dude. Right, um, yeah, and they
Speaker 1: were not only were their plagary but like these are
Speaker 1: again these are like mystical supposed to be mystical revelations
Speaker 1: of the cosmos by undying gurus and the she controls
Speaker 1: seek control Vida, and the parts that aren't ripped off
Speaker 1: are just like the specifically like throwing shade at specific
Speaker 1: people in the real world that Bolotski disliked. Like it's
Speaker 1: this like mixing and airing of personal I have an
Speaker 1: argument with like the spirit this guy. To be fair,
Speaker 1: how many best selling books could you describe as essentially
Speaker 1: a mix of plagiarism and airing personal says I would
Speaker 1: do what have I said about coming on here and
Speaker 1: slandering Michael Crichton like the man's debt. Let's have some respect.
Speaker 1: Michael got a lot of damage on the way out,
Speaker 1: didn't you. Um. So this all blew up enough that
Speaker 1: a British organization, the Society for Psychical Research. And again
Speaker 1: this is not this is not like a crackpot. Nowadays
Speaker 1: anything with that name would be kind of crack. But
Speaker 1: but again this is like people are trying to see
Speaker 1: if this is real science, and it is like legitimately, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would want to like study this to some extent um.
Speaker 1: So this is like, yeah, you would want to like
Speaker 1: try to see can we prove whether or not this
Speaker 1: stuff is real. So they send a fucking dude to
Speaker 1: India to analyze the letters, and this investigator, Richard Hodson,
Speaker 1: writes a huge report which concludes that Bovotsky is quote
Speaker 1: one of the most accomplished, ingenious, and interesting impostors in history.
Speaker 1: Um now, Theosophics you can read if you want to
Speaker 1: spend days reading Theosophists. Tearing this report apart for its
Speaker 1: supposed shortcomings and stuff, there's a lot. It's a ton
Speaker 1: of it, Jamie, Oh, I know. That's why I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not covering this. I'm going to bed. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It is not worth You don't need to. Nobody needs to.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a theosophus listening who's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: but you're not doing the proper like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's fine if you want to be a theosopus, a theosophist,
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think there's anything particularly toxic about it.
Speaker 1: In two but like, chill out man, she was a
Speaker 1: conn woman. I do. I do all kind of I
Speaker 1: do kind of like those kind of quotes where it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, this person was objectively full
Speaker 1: of ship. But you kind of got a handed to
Speaker 1: her right, like, yeah, she was. She was pretty good,
Speaker 1: full of sh right. Yeah, well's that's how we feel
Speaker 1: about l r H. You know, by the way, so
Speaker 1: I'll run Hubbard. Everyone calls l r H. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: look at you on a little cutie cutie nickname. Uh, basically,
Speaker 1: it's what scientologists actually do call them. It's like the
Speaker 1: thing that you like, they'll talk about like l r H.
Speaker 1: Tech and stuff is like a big way they'll refer to,
Speaker 1: like scientology like uh, you know, teachings and ship um.
Speaker 1: But I kind of think that was also Hubbard ripping
Speaker 1: off Glovotsky because everyone calls her HPP and in all
Speaker 1: like Theosophy's literature and she's always called HPP. It's very
Speaker 1: I tried to watch I did watch with a couple
Speaker 1: of friends at the compound, a documentary about her, and
Speaker 1: they kept calling her HPP and it sounds like HPV
Speaker 1: when you have like a bunch of people saying it quickly, No,
Speaker 1: that's my department and I don't have it anymore. Okay,
Speaker 1: good for you, thank you. I didn't know that you
Speaker 1: could do. Sometimes it just goes away kind of good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like HPP eventually went away. Um by toxic. I
Speaker 1: had a very toxic thought when you said that. Do
Speaker 1: you remember how there used to be those god awful
Speaker 1: shirts and so the notorious RBG Oh god, yes, do
Speaker 1: you think that Theosophy had shirts like now around her?
Speaker 1: They are that kind of Jamie. I think we figured
Speaker 1: out how you and I are going to make a
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, where she's like got a blunt in
Speaker 1: her hand because some people think she smoked a lot
Speaker 1: of weed, although Lackman says that that's a dirty lie.
Speaker 1: But Lackman, we got doubles, got it. We've got to
Speaker 1: move products. She smoked weed, she smoked hella herb. I
Speaker 1: really don't like that. I had that thought. But now
Speaker 1: it's it's gone. I've released it. Thank you, you released
Speaker 1: it into the universe, back to the cashic library. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a gigantic volume of sitting at the records cod
Speaker 1: What a what a nightmare concept? What a hoot. So
Speaker 1: the fact that the report like happens a lot of
Speaker 1: the folks who were, like again the people who make
Speaker 1: Theosophy profitable, which are people who are kind of into it,
Speaker 1: but not like I haven't lost their minds. They maybe
Speaker 1: they just want something neat right, like it's boring being
Speaker 1: a British person in India all the time or whatever,
Speaker 1: or in being a British person in Britain or whatever.
Speaker 1: And so maybe a lot of them were just folks
Speaker 1: who wanted a little bit of spice. And when this
Speaker 1: letter comes out like a lot of like that, that
Speaker 1: kind of support, which is where a lot of the
Speaker 1: money comes from, starts to evapp rate and and again,
Speaker 1: the same way she had in New York, whenever people
Speaker 1: start like getting wise to her, like any good conner.
Speaker 1: As she moves on and Bovotsky leaves India, she returns
Speaker 1: to Europe in March of eighteen eighty five. She left
Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy, so she's an India about seventy years
Speaker 1: something like that. Um she lands in Naples, she travels
Speaker 1: around a bit, and she spends most of the next
Speaker 1: three years living off of a society pension, which I
Speaker 1: think was quite comfortable, and working on her last book,
Speaker 1: her very last book, The Secret Doctrine, and that Jamie
Speaker 1: Loftus Sophie Lichtman brings us all the way back around
Speaker 1: to our old friend from episode one, Jean Salvain Bailey,
Speaker 1: the astronomer who crafted the theory of a Hyperborean Atlantis.
Speaker 1: Now Bailey effectively orientalized Atlantis right um, taking the mythical
Speaker 1: super civilization of European lore that had been like a
Speaker 1: focus of occultists and stuff from millennia and shifting it
Speaker 1: to Asia. Um. When we talked about this earlier, I
Speaker 1: quoted from Dan Edelstein's Hyperborean Atlantis. Here's him explaining what
Speaker 1: Blovotsky actually wrote out in her last book, A series
Speaker 1: of lengthy glosses and commentaries of an alleged ancient book
Speaker 1: consulted by clairvoyance no less the Stanzas of disneyan Um
Speaker 1: I know d z y a n. Blovotsky's text is
Speaker 1: an anti Darwinian descentive man that tells the rise and
Speaker 1: fall of seven root races. We are currently on number five,
Speaker 1: going on six. Each root race is divided into seven
Speaker 1: sub races and is associated with a different continent, although
Speaker 1: with continental drift and the disappearance of certain continents, these
Speaker 1: do not correspond with the ones we know. Unsurprisingly, one
Speaker 1: of these lost continents is Atlantis. Although writing shortly after
Speaker 1: ignacious Donnelly, who's Atlantis the Antediluvian World launched the Atlantis craze.
Speaker 1: Blovotsky did not place Atlantis in between Europe and America,
Speaker 1: as Donnelly had, but rather in the far north, near
Speaker 1: the North Pole. Indeed, in Blovotsky, Bailey had finally found
Speaker 1: a supporter. She quotes his works extensively, no less than
Speaker 1: twenty two times, and credits him with having discovered the truth,
Speaker 1: or at least part of it, about Atlantis. So the
Speaker 1: entire cosmology of Blovotsky's last book is based in large
Speaker 1: part on a mix of Bailey's work and that novel
Speaker 1: The Coming Race by Edward bulwer Lytton. Now, while Keyed
Speaker 1: envisioned this underground master Race as being like potential conquerors,
Speaker 1: she saw sees them as benevolent spirit guides. Again, kut
Speaker 1: Umi and Master Maria. They're living underground, right, there's this
Speaker 1: network of tunnels. They're super race underground. And she saw
Speaker 1: bulwer Lytton's concept of real as basically being again kind
Speaker 1: of a cult electricity. And as she always did, Blovotsky
Speaker 1: just rewrote a couple of other people and like mashed
Speaker 1: it together with half understood Eastern religion, and like that's
Speaker 1: the associates confirm what she's been trying to write down. Yes,
Speaker 1: most of her life. That's wild. Now, unfortunately for everybody
Speaker 1: on earth. One thing that Helena chose to focus on
Speaker 1: heavily when she was taking it from Bulward Letton or
Speaker 1: Litton Bulwar Litton was the whole race science aspect of
Speaker 1: his book. Now, this had always been a part of
Speaker 1: diffusionists thinking. There's always been some weird, like uncomfortable race
Speaker 1: ship with diffusionism, because if you're claiming there's a single
Speaker 1: source of all invention and creativity and people day are
Speaker 1: degenerate imitations of past splendor, well, some people are going
Speaker 1: to be more degenerate than others, right, some people are
Speaker 1: gonna be closer to the master race than others. So
Speaker 1: there's obviously this has always been a problematic additive. You
Speaker 1: see where that's headed. Yeah, yeah, Edelstein continues quote. Blovotsky
Speaker 1: also develops to its fullest the racial germ present in
Speaker 1: Bailey's thesis. Hyperborean Atlantis was home to the Atlanteans, but
Speaker 1: also saw the emergence of another race, the Arians. From Bolotsky,
Speaker 1: the Aryan race was born and developed in the far North,
Speaker 1: though after the sinking of the continent of Atlantis, its
Speaker 1: tribes immigrated further south into Asia. For a long time,
Speaker 1: remaining Atlanteans and the Arians lived together. They brought civilization
Speaker 1: to India, Egypt, Greece, and Rome, and are the ancestors
Speaker 1: of the current Europeans. The Atlanteans transmitted to the Arians
Speaker 1: all the known sciences and even highly sophisticated technologies such
Speaker 1: as aeronautics knowledge of flying in air vehicles, as Blovotsky
Speaker 1: put it, but over time the Aryan root race also subdivided.
Speaker 1: One of the more unfortunate results of this division of
Speaker 1: Blovotsky rites was the creation of the Semitic sub race
Speaker 1: and artificial Aryan race. The Semites were but one of
Speaker 1: the Aryan sub races, but she draws strong distinctions between
Speaker 1: them and the others. Quote with the ancient Arians the
Speaker 1: hidden The hidden meaning was grandiose, sublime, and poetical. However,
Speaker 1: much the external appearance of their symbol may now militate
Speaker 1: against the claim with the Semite that stooping man meant
Speaker 1: the fall of spirit into matter and the fall and
Speaker 1: degregation were degradation were apothesized by him, with the result
Speaker 1: of dragging deity down to the level of man. So
Speaker 1: the Semites destroyed godliness in Europe. That's why Europeans aren't
Speaker 1: magic anymore. Basically was was was the Jews. Um Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is stuff that like I I have
Speaker 1: not I've I've read the the gist of what she's saying,
Speaker 1: but never like a direct quote, and it's yeah, and
Speaker 1: Holy Defenders and Bootsky will say, like, well, no, she
Speaker 1: was anti racist because she's she claimed like one of
Speaker 1: the things she's arguing is that Europeans white people have
Speaker 1: lost the ability to like do magic, and which is
Speaker 1: a thing that like Indians have never lost, right and
Speaker 1: like people into bed, like there's all these the parts
Speaker 1: of the world and Indigenous Americans people are still connected
Speaker 1: to magic and white people are not, and that makes
Speaker 1: them better than white people in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: But also so I would say, she's not a white supremacist,
Speaker 1: but it is very racist thinking and especially anti Semitic thinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, the fact that she's not just saying that
Speaker 1: white people are the master race doesn't mean that it's
Speaker 1: not very racist thinking. Um right, But no, it's extremely
Speaker 1: and it's also like that it's classically racist to attribute
Speaker 1: magical powers to not white people like that. It's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's racist and many it's very like the arguments people
Speaker 1: make to try to make her seem like an anti
Speaker 1: racist icon are extremely funny. That's really seventh graders know that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going to bat for the Semites destroyed magic lady, Like,
Speaker 1: that's where you're that's where you're taking the swing. Huh interesting,
Speaker 1: take full you know who did destroy magic? Jamie? Who
Speaker 1: besides my amazing friends. Drawing of Alfred Molina. Yes, magic
Speaker 1: has returned to the world. That's the new Great Awakening.
Speaker 1: It's it starts with this. This is my Jesus and
Speaker 1: the toast. Yeah, so go engage with the returning spiritual
Speaker 1: occult powers in our new sixth world by purchasing whatever
Speaker 1: product comes on next. It will give you powers or not.
Speaker 1: We're back and I hope you all used your better
Speaker 1: help or promo codes and now have the ability to
Speaker 1: summon your own erotic drawings of Alfred Molina suckling different
Speaker 1: furry creatures at his More. You're getting therapy for the
Speaker 1: effect that it is, therapy for what it did do you? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: just remember that the alphred billina, as with the suckling kittens,
Speaker 1: is not real and cannot hurt you. It can't hurt you,
Speaker 1: It can only bring you spiritual peace. So Blovotsky winds
Speaker 1: up concluding that there is quote an immense chasm between
Speaker 1: Aryan and Semitic religious thought. They belong to quote two
Speaker 1: opposite polls, sincerity, sincerity and concealment. Who can ever fathom
Speaker 1: the paradoxical depths of the Semitic mind? Right? This is
Speaker 1: again she gets white washed all out. This is really racist.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is it doesn't racist. This is
Speaker 1: funny because it's like even even critical um interpretations of
Speaker 1: her work still make it sound like, well, a lot
Speaker 1: of what she said was taken out of context, and
Speaker 1: but this sounds pretty in the text. Yes, tell me
Speaker 1: what context makes Who can ever fathom the paradoxical depths
Speaker 1: of the Semitic mind not racist? What context could make
Speaker 1: that not racist? Um? She further degrades Judaism by describing
Speaker 1: it as a sex obsessed and selfish cult. Judaism, built
Speaker 1: solely on phallic worship, has become one of the latest
Speaker 1: creeds in Asia. And theologically a religion of hate and
Speaker 1: malice towards everyone and everything outside themselves. Meanwhile, she writes,
Speaker 1: true Arians are the most metaphysical and spiritual people on earth.
Speaker 1: And now, obviously I feel like I don't need to
Speaker 1: belabor how this is adjacent to Nazi thinking, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we could talk about it for hours.
Speaker 1: But again it's like, I don't think that there's really
Speaker 1: anything to tease apart here. It's just like overtly racist.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And obviously, like you know, she's growing
Speaker 1: up in Russia during a period in which, like a
Speaker 1: lot the state is incredibly anti Semitic. There are like
Speaker 1: programs when she's a kid that are celebrated and stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: she's not by being anti semitic, She's not out of
Speaker 1: the norm, but the way she's anti semitic is completely new.
Speaker 1: She is inventing new kinds of anti semitism, cooking that
Speaker 1: anti semitism into like religious texts, Yeah, into religious texts
Speaker 1: that she's trying to spread as like pop philosophy. And
Speaker 1: in the Sacred Doctrine, she places Jewish people as the
Speaker 1: opponents of the preordained progress of the races. Quote this area,
Speaker 1: non area and specifically Semitic opposition would become the great
Speaker 1: historical paradigm of the racist right, replacing the Marxist historiography
Speaker 1: of historiographic law of class struggle. Blobotsky also raised the
Speaker 1: spectr a new race to be chosen from among the
Speaker 1: most select members of the Aryan root race. This next
Speaker 1: race would have even greater powers than the present one
Speaker 1: and would truly produce produce the uber mention of the future. Now.
Speaker 1: Helena dies in eight ninety one, but her ideas continue
Speaker 1: to spread. Just as she had first tweaked and updated
Speaker 1: the work of others. Occultists came along to add to
Speaker 1: her ideas. The first was fascist Austrian occultist Yard Lanz
Speaker 1: von Liebenfels, who gave the birthplace of the Arians as
Speaker 1: a lost Arctic Hyperborea her Moan Earth. A German ethnologist followed.
Speaker 1: He named the mystical Aryan homeland tula or it's it's
Speaker 1: spelled ful and it's usually said fuel. I think it's
Speaker 1: actually supposed to be pronounced tula um. But like this
Speaker 1: is also the name of like a popular brand of
Speaker 1: like top racks that people put on their subarus. Um,
Speaker 1: it's the word had other meetings before. Yes, it's also
Speaker 1: the name of my dad's best friend. She's from Greece.
Speaker 1: It's a Greek name. Is it spelled t h u Eli. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's others. There's like Tulian stuff like yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's there's a number of other kind of similar names.
Speaker 1: This is t h u l E. I'll call it
Speaker 1: fuls just because that's usually in a hell boy they
Speaker 1: say ful. So that's what we're gonna go with here.
Speaker 1: Mike mcnola was never wrong. Yeah. In July of nineteen eighteen,
Speaker 1: is Germany reeled from starvation and disaster on the Western Front,
Speaker 1: the ful myth would be adopted by German theosophist baron
Speaker 1: Rudolph von Sabotendorf. He founded a Bavarian right wing nationalist
Speaker 1: club and called it the Ful Society. This name set
Speaker 1: it apart from other more militant far right organizations, and
Speaker 1: its cover as an antiquary and historical society discussing the
Speaker 1: myths built by Bolovotsky helped Sabotendorf and his followers avoid
Speaker 1: police scrutiny. Quote During the rapid succession of socialist and
Speaker 1: Soviet revolutionary governments. In post World War One Munich, the
Speaker 1: Ful Society was at the center of the white or
Speaker 1: reactionary counter offensive. It's antiquary and cover may have facilitated
Speaker 1: this role while authorities cracked down on more visible nationalist groups.
Speaker 1: The Ful Society's headquarters at the Fancy I'm not going
Speaker 1: to try and pronounce the name of this hotel became
Speaker 1: a haven for the resistance throughout the turbulent period between
Speaker 1: ninteen eighteen and nineteen twenty. Yeah, the Holiday and the
Speaker 1: Society of Us. Yeah. Yeah, So it's it's an umbrella
Speaker 1: group for a bunch of different far right paramilitary organizations
Speaker 1: known as the Free Corps uh Corps. Right like these
Speaker 1: are like using the Thule Society is cover. Now. One
Speaker 1: of the far right groups that came under the sway
Speaker 1: of the Thule Society was the German Workers Party or
Speaker 1: d a P, soon to become the n S d
Speaker 1: a P under the leadership of Adolf Hitler. Now, the
Speaker 1: precise connections between the d a P and the Fule
Speaker 1: Society are debated somewhat. This is often vastly over kind
Speaker 1: of emphasized as like the Nazis started as this occult
Speaker 1: organ and it's like, no, it's just more that a
Speaker 1: lot of early Nazis had occult leadings and this was
Speaker 1: a good cover for being a fascist in a period
Speaker 1: when that was more dangerous. And so of course, like
Speaker 1: they have, they're related to one another, right, Um. Sabatandorff
Speaker 1: would always affirm that the Nazi Party was created by
Speaker 1: Fule Society members. Reginald Phelps's class dat doubt on these claims. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's worth noting though that, like you, again, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of debate about like to what a degree
Speaker 1: was this like an administrative thing? Was it planned? Um?
Speaker 1: But what's actually true, and Ian Kershaw notes this is
Speaker 1: that the Thule Society had a shipload of like members
Speaker 1: who later became massively influential Nazis. Um. One of these
Speaker 1: guys was Alfred Rosenberg. Now Rosenberg would want to be
Speaker 1: the Nazi parties, Yeah, he's he sucks, Um. No, not
Speaker 1: Alfred Molina. Um. Rosenberg is like basically kind of like
Speaker 1: the chief idealogue of the Nazi Party next to Hitler. Um,
Speaker 1: like the guy making up the most kind of Nazi
Speaker 1: cannon next to Hitler. Another Thule Society member was Hans Frank,
Speaker 1: who became future governor of Poland and would be executed.
Speaker 1: I believe he's one of the guys executed in Nuremberg.
Speaker 1: A lot of war crimes, Hans right, he's running Poland
Speaker 1: for the Nazis, right, that's the kind of war crimes
Speaker 1: Hans Frank winds up committing um. Another Thule Society member
Speaker 1: was Anton Drexler. Drexler is the actual founder of the
Speaker 1: Nazi Party. Hitler doesn't found it, right, Hitler's like comes
Speaker 1: in kind of a little bit later and and so
Speaker 1: eventually does take over. But Drexler is the guy who
Speaker 1: founds it, and before he founds the Nazi Party, and
Speaker 1: while he's starting the Nazi Party, he's a regular attendee
Speaker 1: at the Thule Society meetings. Hitler was never a member
Speaker 1: and he was definitely not a theosophist. But Rudolf Hess,
Speaker 1: his one time best friend and the guy who actually
Speaker 1: wrote mine comp with him, like when they're in prison.
Speaker 1: Hess is the guy who's like taking dictation from Hitler.
Speaker 1: He later kind of loses his mind and flies a
Speaker 1: plane to England at the start of the war to
Speaker 1: try to get the king to ally with Hitler. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Um he dies in prison. Um. Um. He
Speaker 1: was also a Thule Society member. Um. And Hess is
Speaker 1: super influential to Hitler. Hess is early on because once
Speaker 1: they start to get power, Hess kind of gets marginalized
Speaker 1: because he's he's very into the occult. He's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a crackpot, but he is like he is
Speaker 1: like Hitler's emotional support animal. Like when Hitler's like in
Speaker 1: the early days of the Nazi Party, Hitler probably kills
Speaker 1: himself without Hess there Um very important guy. Now. Blovotsky
Speaker 1: herself obviously was not a Nazi. She could she dies
Speaker 1: in e nine one, right, she's there's no way she
Speaker 1: even could have been. Yeah, but her ideas run through
Speaker 1: Nazi history. Alfred Rosenberg's book book The Myth of the
Speaker 1: Twentieth Century, which he publishes in nineteen thirty, is the
Speaker 1: second best selling book in Nazi Germany under Mine comp Right,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean when I say this guy's like
Speaker 1: the number two ideal logue of the Nazis, and his
Speaker 1: whole book is a plagiarism of the secret doctrine. Like
Speaker 1: he's basically taken the secret doctrine and doing what Blovotsky
Speaker 1: did with the Coming Race. He opens the book by
Speaker 1: restating the myth of a Hyperborean Atlantis and assisting that
Speaker 1: the existence of a quote prehistoric Nordic cultural center was
Speaker 1: the basis of all Nazi race science. Edelstein calls this
Speaker 1: belief in an Aryan Atlantis the quote foundational myth of Nazism.
Speaker 1: Blovotsky's ideas about the inevitable progression of races also played
Speaker 1: into Nazi theory. This gets forgotten a lot amongst all
Speaker 1: the horror, but genocide was only like part of the
Speaker 1: Nazi quest to secure a future for the Aryan race.
Speaker 1: They were not just trying obviously. One part of this
Speaker 1: is we want to kill a whole shipload of people
Speaker 1: to stop them from breeding with Arians and you know,
Speaker 1: watering down their blood. But like they didn't believe German
Speaker 1: people were good enough either, right, They didn't believe that
Speaker 1: there were like Arians in the way that there needed
Speaker 1: to be. Another huge part of Nazism is creating a
Speaker 1: master race through science and breeding, right, um, which is like,
Speaker 1: again it's tightened with Bolovotsky's ideas of like we're on
Speaker 1: the fifth race, but we're becoming the sixth race and like,
Speaker 1: you know, we can we are creating this like new
Speaker 1: race that can be like a new kind of master race.
Speaker 1: But it's going to take you know, in her mind
Speaker 1: it was more like a thing of spiritual kind of progression.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, I mean it doesn't matter whether
Speaker 1: Hitler was at the host office or not. Like, there's
Speaker 1: no just from the handful of paragraphs you've read, it's
Speaker 1: extremely obvious why it would be an influential text for Nazis,
Speaker 1: because it's just confirms stuff that they already believe. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean it also more than that, it like the
Speaker 1: things they believe, right, like because this has not been
Speaker 1: people have been racist and had been anti Semitic and stuff,
Speaker 1: but like this specific stuff, the Aryan ship that was
Speaker 1: not in the fucking in anybody's radar until hello blovotsky Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote again. This is about like how she
Speaker 1: influences their quest to build a master race. Indeed, the
Speaker 1: horrors of the Holocaust may lead us to overlook the
Speaker 1: fact that the extermination of the Jews was part of
Speaker 1: a vaster racial project whose ultimate goal was the creation
Speaker 1: of a new superior race. The other half of the
Speaker 1: Nazi racial fantasy expressed itself with particular cruelty and the
Speaker 1: eugenic experiments performed in s S laboratories, but was also
Speaker 1: elevant and the highest evidence than the highest level of
Speaker 1: the Nazi party. Certain s S officers apparently mutilated themselves
Speaker 1: in order to achieve biological transfiguration, which is cool. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you for adding that at the end, because I
Speaker 1: was it's it's good. Yeah, it's it's yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: you're yeah, when you've when you hear that someone has
Speaker 1: written down we are on the fifth of seven races. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's headed towards you genics. There's just simply
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Um and phrenology and you know
Speaker 1: God does what else? Yep um? Now, well, nightmare okay today.
Speaker 1: Of course, Blovotsky's rants about the progression of races, the
Speaker 1: conflict between Aryan and Semitic people's and real are primarily
Speaker 1: the purview of the weirdest chunks of the right wing.
Speaker 1: Fascism has by enlarged moved beyond this stuff. Right. There
Speaker 1: are some weird rill Nazis out there. One of them
Speaker 1: has a I think it's on YouTube. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He has he dresses like a robot. It's weird, um
Speaker 1: one of but her influence is still deeply felt in
Speaker 1: the New Age and occult communities, and as a result,
Speaker 1: aspects of her theology are still making it into new
Speaker 1: fascist movements today. The Akashak Records are supposedly in a
Speaker 1: theoric library that contains records of everything that ever has
Speaker 1: and ever will happen. Right library, it's space Wikipedia that
Speaker 1: could whom he uses to do plagiarism. Now that she
Speaker 1: gets Blovotsky gets the name the Akashak Records because she
Speaker 1: doesn't speak Sanskrit well, and in Sanskrit, the word akasha
Speaker 1: means space facilitating sound kind of right. There's not a
Speaker 1: direct translation, but that's basically what it means. Blovotsky doesn't
Speaker 1: speak good Sanskrit and mistakenly believed it meant life principle,
Speaker 1: so she described the Akashak record as quote, indestructible tablets
Speaker 1: of astral life or of astral light, a cosmic like
Speaker 1: wax stamps. Basically, yeah, affinity library. It's it's okay. First
Speaker 1: of all, my just wiped out so hard um excellent.
Speaker 1: There was a medium I spoke with in Canzadega who
Speaker 1: brought up the akash records like as a term, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? I've never heard
Speaker 1: of that, and um, they could not tell me. So
Speaker 1: it's interesting, Like it's like still a term that floats around,
Speaker 1: but it's more used to describe like theory and philosophy.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, yeah, all theory. It's just like a
Speaker 1: theory or philosophy. And with diffusionism, right, because for one thing,
Speaker 1: what you say with the Akashak records is there's a
Speaker 1: single source of truth, right. But the other thing it
Speaker 1: does if you're a con person or just like you
Speaker 1: don't like being questioned too much and your beliefs, you
Speaker 1: can say that like, well I know this is true
Speaker 1: because I channeled this from the Akashak records and it's
Speaker 1: like written in some space encyclopedia or whatever. Um right, right,
Speaker 1: which is like it's yeah, definitely a concept that has
Speaker 1: been increasingly vague ified. That's why she invents it because
Speaker 1: it makes it easier to con people. But over the
Speaker 1: it's been more than a century now, the idea has
Speaker 1: mutated consistently. This segment from an article by Matthew Rinsky
Speaker 1: of conspirituality. Uh does a good job of summarizing where
Speaker 1: we are now. The amount of information now stored with
Speaker 1: in computer memory and crossing the Internet highway daily is
Speaker 1: literally unfathomable, rights Kevin Tadeshi and Edgar Case on the
Speaker 1: Akashak records, and yet this vast complex of computer systems
Speaker 1: and collective databases cannot begin to come close to the power,
Speaker 1: the memory or the omniscient recording capacity of the Akashak records.
Speaker 1: Hindu's nationalist spiritual influencer Seguru agrees equating the records to
Speaker 1: the Internet. It's all there, he told a gathering in
Speaker 1: two thousand ten. Whatever you want, you can access it.
Speaker 1: It is all their right. And ow Goop's resident Akashak
Speaker 1: reader is Ashley Wood, who dubs the intuitive process a
Speaker 1: Google search for the soul and teaches a line activation
Speaker 1: meditation that promises to illuminate the fiber optic connection between
Speaker 1: the body and the pleiades, where she says the Acoshak
Speaker 1: records are stored. From there, the believer can learn to
Speaker 1: access the records through a simple banal incantation called the
Speaker 1: Pathway prayer. No special training required in anti vax COVID
Speaker 1: denialism circles. The Akashak records are now being consulted for
Speaker 1: a advice on how to dispel mental programming and negative
Speaker 1: agendas promoting the gene therapy of the COVID vaccine. This
Speaker 1: life coach and medical hypnotherapist suggests in the following sermon
Speaker 1: that connecting with the profound truths of the Acoshak records
Speaker 1: can provide a soothing long view perspective on the medical
Speaker 1: apartheid of public health COVID protections. She says the records
Speaker 1: have put her in touch with angels Jesus and Mother Mary,
Speaker 1: and she can teach you how to connect this way
Speaker 1: as well. Well. Isn't that so? I mean, based on that, it,
Speaker 1: like the Acoshatrick records truly is whatever un eat it
Speaker 1: to mean to reinforce your ideology. So it can be
Speaker 1: something as simple as like, I'm a girl boss that
Speaker 1: wants you to pay me three hundred dollars to spew
Speaker 1: some random shit at you to this is why we're
Speaker 1: anti vax and Jesus agrees, yeah, exactly, And it's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, for as much of a selfish
Speaker 1: person issue was the solid that Blovotsky does for the
Speaker 1: rest of the occult movement is like, oh, here's this
Speaker 1: thing everyone can use forever to justify whatever bullshit you're
Speaker 1: trying to cash in on, right, I mean, because you
Speaker 1: can be coming from I mean it sounds like you
Speaker 1: can be coming from literally any advantage point politically, and
Speaker 1: you leverage this to your advantage because well, then that's
Speaker 1: like what happens all the time. It's like, oh, I've
Speaker 1: I'm channeling this spirit like the the way that my
Speaker 1: favorite way that this was like leveraged at like the
Speaker 1: height of eight spiritualism would be like the Fox sisters
Speaker 1: would channel um like dead senators who ad voted to
Speaker 1: uphold slavery and would channel them and say I changed
Speaker 1: my mind. I was wrong. I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1: And so it can be like this theology could be
Speaker 1: used it like all these different ways, but some of
Speaker 1: them are like so ah, that's disturbing, but also it's
Speaker 1: not surprising. It's too vague concept to to not be
Speaker 1: used for evil. And also you know, well, Robert, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like this is how every well
Speaker 1: I'm upset. Good, I'm glad you're upset. That's all. That's
Speaker 1: all I ever want is to make you upset. That's
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Speaker 1: just talking about Minions over there right now, because I
Speaker 1: need to find my inner piece who's got a whole
Speaker 1: fucking room in the Akashic Records. The Minions and you
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Speaker 1: tattooed on your face any man, any minion the one
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Speaker 1: general vibe of the face? Um, I would recommend going
Speaker 1: with Kevin. I feel like I have the face shape
Speaker 1: for Kevin, but that's just me. If you need guidance
Speaker 1: on like what minion full face tattoo is best for
Speaker 1: your face shape, I'm happy to consult. Yeah, Jamie will
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Speaker 1: but we'll change the lyrics. But look, yeah, and it's
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