Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Needs a Trip to Hawaii
Speaker 1: from the Chris Wesley Podcast Studio. It's around the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Kansas. We're not going anywhere, no nowhere, but
Speaker 1: we are going somewhere London. We are Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: It is the long promised around the NFC and forty
Speaker 1: eight minutes show. How exciting is that for all the
Speaker 1: fans of the National Football Conference. I mean there are
Speaker 1: people out that they're just like die hard NFC fans,
Speaker 1: like you put one of those interconference They're they're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, Mark, this is your type of talk show.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. Hello, how are you? Um? I
Speaker 1: was just thinking about Hawaii. I would not I don't
Speaker 1: think the three of us go together. We would go.
Speaker 1: We would pick. We would take different islands. I take Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I think I think we would Sharon Island. I mean
Speaker 1: we're sharing a city. Different humans would would be. Um,
Speaker 1: this is funny moment. We did a live hit with
Speaker 1: mike yamic All on the Yammer on NFL Network and
Speaker 1: I was pumping up the Jets, as I'm known to
Speaker 1: do this time of year, and Greg wanted to really
Speaker 1: zing the old Zeusa at the end and he said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you're such a Jets home or look, you're even wearing
Speaker 1: a green shirt. I'm wearing a gray NFL Network Polo
Speaker 1: color blind guy blew it on live TV. You know, well, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was. It was such a bizarre comment because you're
Speaker 1: just an adult who got a color wrong to a
Speaker 1: striking degree. Where Mike Yam said nothing, I said nothing,
Speaker 1: Dan said nothing until after green gray, and I would
Speaker 1: throw like the blue grays in there. It definitely in
Speaker 1: my biggest weak spot area. So it hit me where
Speaker 1: it hurts. Um. But I think it's important. Um. I've
Speaker 1: talked on this show many times about the under rep
Speaker 1: presentation of the struggles of color blind the community out there,
Speaker 1: and this was just another example. So I think there's
Speaker 1: a little kid out there ten years old, maybe he
Speaker 1: doesn't even know there's something wrong with him, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is green, or he's like finally, like someone someone
Speaker 1: in a real position of success that's overcome his obstacle
Speaker 1: of position of success. Yeah, I like, I like that,
Speaker 1: isn't it? It is cool though, Mark, because we've gotten
Speaker 1: to know Greg quite well over the past ten years. Uh,
Speaker 1: that there's one thing in the world that Greg cannot
Speaker 1: have any takes on. You can't have any strong opinions.
Speaker 1: He can't talk color. He just can't do it. Even
Speaker 1: even in this hit, he did have a strong opinion
Speaker 1: about it, and I wasn't I had I had prefaced
Speaker 1: that with many different Jets Uh comments that Dan's a
Speaker 1: homer like soccer. He picked the Jets And I say this,
Speaker 1: I say this seriously to you. Yes, you have a
Speaker 1: you have a slight disability, and it's not right for
Speaker 1: Dan or Mark to poke fun at you about that.
Speaker 1: It is it is your body, and your body is
Speaker 1: functioning in your own way. Thank you. It's a failure
Speaker 1: of your body. That's much friendship. I think it's funny
Speaker 1: that you can't see colors. It's it's not true. I
Speaker 1: can see them. They're just the shades are like a
Speaker 1: big We're looking at the world. It's all black and white.
Speaker 1: It's times of change. Now you must respect people's I'm
Speaker 1: going to rein it in all right, we got a
Speaker 1: big shot with Grave Digger. By the way, we've got
Speaker 1: terrible news, right, you know, we we have our issues
Speaker 1: with with Titans fans, and they come at me. I
Speaker 1: know they've come at you guys at different times. Great,
Speaker 1: they could just learn that how Landry towards a c
Speaker 1: l and I could tell you're in a bad place.
Speaker 1: I've been there, bro, I've been there. I get I
Speaker 1: know where you're coming from. And I just want to say,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough day at the office, but
Speaker 1: we got your back. Thanks guys. I appreciate that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a crucial piece of the defense that the
Speaker 1: guy they can do everything. But hey, next man up,
Speaker 1: life goes on. Right you're dying. I mean he he
Speaker 1: was one of the highest paid um edge players in
Speaker 1: the Lakes. That's how much they believe in him. It
Speaker 1: is a position with a lot of questions right now.
Speaker 1: But the chuckle Monsters that was their name, right, tickle Monsters.
Speaker 1: They must forge on because that's what a tickle monster,
Speaker 1: and it's a fellow tickle monsters would do what choosed
Speaker 1: to do. Isn't that the great thing and the worst
Speaker 1: thing about being a true sports fan. You don't know
Speaker 1: Harold Landry, It doesn't really change your life one way
Speaker 1: or the other. Um about the Titans this season, how
Speaker 1: they do and yet it just crushes us when something
Speaker 1: like that happens. Yeah, well, you can feel empathy as
Speaker 1: a human, I think even if you don't know them personally.
Speaker 1: Upside Titans, Yes, they need some help of wide receiver
Speaker 1: signed Josh Gordon. They did sign Josh Gordon to the
Speaker 1: practice squad. They only have four receivers on the active
Speaker 1: He also was a model citizen in Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: by the way, what he ever only did wrong in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: essentially the entire country is allowed to do at this point,
Speaker 1: so maybe he can help it. I will not push
Speaker 1: back on that at all. I think Gordon deserved to
Speaker 1: play more than he did during that prime portion of
Speaker 1: his career. But I can't have any more Josh Gordon conversations.
Speaker 1: When's the last time he made like a play he
Speaker 1: caught a pass for Kansas City in the last two years,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, yeah, it's a good spot for him.
Speaker 1: He had his chance. But yes, I think in the
Speaker 1: last place before more faith still in the Titans defense
Speaker 1: and their defensive front. I think that's the strength of
Speaker 1: their team than I do with their wide receiver corps,
Speaker 1: with or without Josh Gordon. So yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to make a big difference. Are there any
Speaker 1: dressers from your top one still out there that the
Speaker 1: Titans could Look, I'm gonna go look. You know what.
Speaker 1: They just signed Trey Flowers in Miami, which I thought
Speaker 1: was a really nice move. He could still play the guitar,
Speaker 1: as Dan would say. Last year a lot of injuries,
Speaker 1: but I thought that was a nice move. But they
Speaker 1: did that last week. So I heard that left. I
Speaker 1: heard that Mark Gastineau is a staying in shape um
Speaker 1: former pass rusher of the Jets. But you know, my
Speaker 1: list only has five players left. It does not include
Speaker 1: any edge rushers. Odo Beckham number eleven on the list
Speaker 1: still out there Will Fuller. Of course, Eric Fisher is
Speaker 1: not with a team yet. That's interesting. Sheldon Richardson and
Speaker 1: Dominicans sue. Kevin King, the cornerback from the Packers, never
Speaker 1: got signed in Dante Hightower without a job. I gotta
Speaker 1: make a trade, ye make a move. Alright, let's now pivot.
Speaker 1: It's time someone gives to a contract. I know he
Speaker 1: was looking for eight or nine million, but he was
Speaker 1: still playing pretty well in the playoffs last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he seems like because he's friends with who's he friends
Speaker 1: with who was probably multiple people. I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: a notable billionaire that he's like tight with. He was
Speaker 1: a Warren Buffett. Warren Buffet guy, just gonna say, lee
Speaker 1: Iyah Coca was amazing Buffett. I get a feeling that
Speaker 1: sues like I'm not playing unless I get paid above
Speaker 1: market value. That all right, let's get to it. Around
Speaker 1: the a f C Monday. Now around the NFC begins now, Yes,
Speaker 1: NFC South Panthers, Okay, Carolina Panthers are a team that
Speaker 1: I think comes down to their offensive line. Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: and Sam Darneld played behind what I would say was
Speaker 1: the bottom three offensive line and aggregate the last two years.
Speaker 1: It is almost all new right now, but the coaching
Speaker 1: staff is still there. There thin at the skill position.
Speaker 1: Like their defense. We'll see do we trust Matt Rule
Speaker 1: to coach up a better offensive line? Were the moves enough?
Speaker 1: Ekon really struggled in the preseason. Was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a red flag game against the Patriots. He's their
Speaker 1: high pick. They have another pick, Christensen, who's now moving
Speaker 1: to left guard. They have a journeyman elf line at
Speaker 1: center that looks like a problem like and an O
Speaker 1: their journeyman at right guard. If that offensive line is bad,
Speaker 1: then any optimism I believe about the Panthers goes by
Speaker 1: the way said well, when Baker Mayfield in Cleveland was
Speaker 1: fortunate enough for for for most of that time to
Speaker 1: play behind the top two or three line in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There were moments though, when injuries mounted. I can think
Speaker 1: of that twenty nineteen season where he was when the
Speaker 1: heat was on. I mean he struggled mightily where the
Speaker 1: fact that changed everything you thought about Baker Mayfield. That's
Speaker 1: his his number one thing is he holds the ball
Speaker 1: to make a play and that works for Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and it worked for Baker Mayfield at various points. And
Speaker 1: you know, Baker obviously is also not a large man.
Speaker 1: He's not a big quarterback, so that a lot of
Speaker 1: vision issues sometimes when that the pass rushes collapsing in
Speaker 1: on him. So they yeah, they that is with so
Speaker 1: many teams, offensive line obviously is a big question mark.
Speaker 1: But they really they're due to have some some proficiency.
Speaker 1: And obviously if Christian McCaffrey is back as well, there
Speaker 1: is there is like a a squint where you could
Speaker 1: see this offense doing some things. Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: think Matt rule and it's partly based on the Teddy
Speaker 1: year where they moved the ball very well and just
Speaker 1: couldn't finish his offense. Makes sense to me. Now they're
Speaker 1: very thin. They have more Robbie Anderson McCaffrey. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: pretty good. And the most teams have more exciting players
Speaker 1: you could get, you know, d J Moore for what right?
Speaker 1: Dj Moore, Robby Anderson mcguy. But that's three guys. You
Speaker 1: need more guys. They traded for Lavisco Sanal this week.
Speaker 1: That kind of shows they're a little desperate. They like
Speaker 1: your boy Hollywood Higgins. Maybe he helps out, but like
Speaker 1: that's it if they have one injury there and then
Speaker 1: it gets I do think they have a string of
Speaker 1: nice parts on defense too, and the defense last year
Speaker 1: really was a difference maker for a stretch and everything
Speaker 1: just sort of crumbled, I mean crumbled around bad quarterback play.
Speaker 1: I do think that Baker Mayfield is an upgrade. I
Speaker 1: I if you if he's protected and these weapons around
Speaker 1: and work, Baker Mayfield I think has been devalued because
Speaker 1: of what happened this offseason. People were forgetting some of
Speaker 1: the higher moments he can do he can do this.
Speaker 1: I do want to mention j C. Horne, their top
Speaker 1: pick a year ago, looked fantastic for three games, got
Speaker 1: hurt and then missed the entire season. But he could
Speaker 1: be a really big factor for them. Hey, they got
Speaker 1: Browns and Giants out of the gate. Of course, Browns
Speaker 1: without Deshaun Watson after that, Saints, Cards, Niners, Rams, Bucks,
Speaker 1: So they're in a lot of trouble if they don't
Speaker 1: win at least the Bucks mark. I want you to
Speaker 1: rank these three items in terms of concern level, peace
Speaker 1: scale level surrounding the Bucks right now. One Item one,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady stayed to mind and all this jazz about
Speaker 1: the drama behind the scenes in his personal life, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: And what it might mean to up plugged in Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Item too, the idea that's simply assuming Todd Bowles can
Speaker 1: be Bruce Arians is entirely unproven. H Item three, the
Speaker 1: loss of center Ryan Jensen and guard Aaron Stinney along
Speaker 1: the offensive line. When we saw what happened to Brady
Speaker 1: and sort of the offense in general, when there were
Speaker 1: line issues last end of last season. All right, I
Speaker 1: got the line number One, UM, so important. I got
Speaker 1: an old quarterback. I know he's very good on his feet,
Speaker 1: but he's not fast. If the line is bad, they're
Speaker 1: gonna struggle. Two was Bowls is he Arians? I don't
Speaker 1: think he needs to be arians. You have Byron Leftwich
Speaker 1: in the building he needs and he's running the offense.
Speaker 1: The Bruce Arians ran, So you just need Bowls to
Speaker 1: be competent and get the defense coached up. In my mind,
Speaker 1: Three nebulos the Tom Brady situation. Don't really know what
Speaker 1: this what's going on. There's some reports and gossip out
Speaker 1: there about his personal life. UM, but I can't get
Speaker 1: two pumped out of up about it right now because
Speaker 1: I just don't know enough. Are you glad that I
Speaker 1: didn't spend the entire segment on Tom Brady's misadventures whatever? That? First? No,
Speaker 1: I would I would rank I would rank offensive line first.
Speaker 1: I think that's how the offense functions. I think that
Speaker 1: Tom Brady things for me. Is Second, you sure you
Speaker 1: want to flip those? I don't, because you know when
Speaker 1: that press conference shook me. When it came to how
Speaker 1: I thought I saw a loss. It's interesting because I
Speaker 1: all ended dual. I went and watched that press conference,
Speaker 1: and I didn't have like a weird takeaway. My takeaway
Speaker 1: was just like, he really seems to be sad that
Speaker 1: he won't be playing football again a year from now,
Speaker 1: or at least he's in that mindset and he was
Speaker 1: like talking about like you, it felt like a retirement speech,
Speaker 1: which was which was a strange frame of mind. To
Speaker 1: be fair, you just said there, I agree with that
Speaker 1: last part. When I saw the press conference, the only
Speaker 1: thing that crossed my is why does he look like
Speaker 1: he's He looks so young, right, I'm like item one,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be less concerned about, not about him as
Speaker 1: a human, but more about his ability throughout the last
Speaker 1: twenty years to compartmentalize and if anything, seemingly draws strength
Speaker 1: from any drama that's going on and be better. The
Speaker 1: offensive line is to me, the concern I am curious
Speaker 1: on Week one though, like how does that defense look? Uh,
Speaker 1: let's just see no making light of anything in his
Speaker 1: personal life, but just to show that how strong he is.
Speaker 1: You remember the one year, I think it was the
Speaker 1: twenty eight three year his mother was very ill and
Speaker 1: that was hanging over him the entire season, and he
Speaker 1: came out and delivered one of the great playoff runs. Ever.
Speaker 1: He's just wired differently. It's sort of like us when
Speaker 1: the lights go on, no matter what happened before a matter,
Speaker 1: no matter what happened, pros that are bros. That's what
Speaker 1: Dan says, Mark sticking with you Saints. Oh we should
Speaker 1: say that Claibon was supposed to be on the show.
Speaker 1: We tease that couldn't make it. Personal issues, nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Giselle. Go ahead, Mark and I will handle
Speaker 1: the sat daycare coming up small in a big spot
Speaker 1: for clay Bonne. Hopefully they don't listen. I found this
Speaker 1: interesting daycare. She owns the daycare, but it wasn't specifically okay,
Speaker 1: sorry market children of forty three writers at the Athletic
Speaker 1: all forty three picked the Bucks to win the South.
Speaker 1: I found that interesting because not around these parts were
Speaker 1: the three of us free out of four yesterday, Steve Wise,
Speaker 1: Gregg and myself pick New Orleans to win the division.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has to do for
Speaker 1: me with a roster that's gnarly on defense, even without
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson. They're much better at wide receiver this year.
Speaker 1: But Also for me, it's what they did last nearly
Speaker 1: in a positive that kind of thing um. But also
Speaker 1: for me, I think what they did against the Bucks
Speaker 1: last year and that in the way that conflict between
Speaker 1: those two teams went down, and really what they've been
Speaker 1: for a long time. But are we massively overlooking two
Speaker 1: items a potential nuclear at winter esque fly in the
Speaker 1: ointment I'm talking about one. You've replaced Sean Payton with
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen tbd on that to a full season of
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston remains a question mark. So you've got a
Speaker 1: big question at head coach and at least a question
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Those are two big questions. And yet I
Speaker 1: still believe do you I do believe. I do think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of varia you believe. I do believe
Speaker 1: there's variants that it could go terribly Like if you
Speaker 1: tell me that they go six and eleven and it's messy,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's part of their potential outcomes. But
Speaker 1: I also think twelve and five and winning the division
Speaker 1: is So I'm not totally in. But the reasons you
Speaker 1: gave Mark actually aren't where I'm concerned. I think Pete
Speaker 1: Carmichael and the consistency on their offense is going to
Speaker 1: be just fine. And I think jamis in that offense
Speaker 1: is going to be good. And if he's not, I
Speaker 1: like that they have two pretty solid quarterbacks there with
Speaker 1: Dalton behind him. So that's not where my area of
Speaker 1: concern is. Yeah, I think on this podcast, I think
Speaker 1: something similar is happening with the Texans. We're talking about
Speaker 1: it the other day that I hate the Texans, it's
Speaker 1: more I don't and I think they could be improved.
Speaker 1: It's more when you two guys start guessing each other
Speaker 1: up for an entire summer about a team, I just
Speaker 1: feel naturally inclined to, like, let's tap the brakes a little.
Speaker 1: If you often play this role and sometimes West was
Speaker 1: part of the twosome that like the team, whoever it is,
Speaker 1: you like to pump the pump the brakes. Guy. It's
Speaker 1: more like the certainty in which we speak of the
Speaker 1: Saints on this show. And I just said they could
Speaker 1: all know. Now you're backing off a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying in general, the idea there are the things
Speaker 1: that you brought up, Mark are very vital pieces of
Speaker 1: this conversation. And yes, I call me crazy and I
Speaker 1: know in the small sample size that Winston did some
Speaker 1: things before he got hurt, but by the way, he
Speaker 1: also got hurt, and he's coming back from a tour
Speaker 1: n A c L. A lot of things have to
Speaker 1: go right for the Saints in key places to be
Speaker 1: beating out Tom Brady for the NFC South. That's why
Speaker 1: I didn't pick him. I picked the Bucks. But I
Speaker 1: also had the Saints as a playoff game playoff team,
Speaker 1: so I'm hedging my bed a little bit. You could
Speaker 1: say I think they'll be good, but you guys seem
Speaker 1: to talk about them like they're super and I'm not there.
Speaker 1: The one thing I would always say, you know, Sean
Speaker 1: Payton's gonna win you a couple of games a year
Speaker 1: because he's Sean Payton. I do think that. To go
Speaker 1: from that to Dennis Sound, I'm not some of the offense,
Speaker 1: but the overall management of the team. I don't think
Speaker 1: Shahn C. Gardner is is not. Is that another team
Speaker 1: right now? If Sean Payton is there, I just don't.
Speaker 1: I like that safety Marcus May arrested and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make use of my first time out in history of
Speaker 1: the show, just because I did want to mention Marcus
Speaker 1: May getting arrested, his diversity in terms of his skill set,
Speaker 1: along with Honey badroo Um. You know they were probably
Speaker 1: confident in and now he just gave away Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Oh,
Speaker 1: he didn't talk. He didn't talk to the coaches for
Speaker 1: two days. We have to give him away for nothing,
Speaker 1: just have to do it. But the reason I took
Speaker 1: a time out, I don't think they're gonna ship Marcus
Speaker 1: made of Alcatraz. By the way, he could potentially get
Speaker 1: suspended at some point. That's fair. I did just want
Speaker 1: to say. The reasons why I would be a little
Speaker 1: concern is combustible personalities, kind of like you mentioned with
Speaker 1: Dennis All and everything. It's more that defenses are traditionally inconsistent.
Speaker 1: They've been so good on defense, and I think if
Speaker 1: you look at their pass rush, their county on Marcus Davenport,
Speaker 1: who's had a shaky preseason to stay healthy, Payton Turner,
Speaker 1: their number one overall draft pick this year, they're using,
Speaker 1: you know, their concerned. They're some of the fans the
Speaker 1: B word, like he has not shown up. Cameron Jordan's
Speaker 1: is up there in years. Then you look at their
Speaker 1: defensive tackle very thin at behind on your mata. And yes,
Speaker 1: their secondary is deep, and Alan kind of believes he
Speaker 1: can coach up anyone. And there's a lot of good players,
Speaker 1: but Matthew and May are new guys, like they're replacing
Speaker 1: two great safeties and Gardner Johnson and Marcus Williams, and
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of turnover. So my concern is
Speaker 1: more that the defense won't be special, that there's at
Speaker 1: least a chance of that. And then things get you
Speaker 1: like what you said. I admire what you said, Greg.
Speaker 1: I do wonder is in the world at this time
Speaker 1: out scenario? Do you take a time out to continue
Speaker 1: the same topic we were just discussing and then I
Speaker 1: wanted to get that point in here. Yeah, I think Greg,
Speaker 1: little off base there with your time out. Well, this
Speaker 1: is maybe why no one's ever been allowed to take
Speaker 1: time outs in the history. And it was fun time
Speaker 1: out we've ever had. That's for sure. Fair alright time,
Speaker 1: But did the list there get smarter? I think they
Speaker 1: think absolutely. U. Let's hit the Falcons, the final team
Speaker 1: in the South. Uh, My spiky senses are tingling a
Speaker 1: little bit. That Marcus Mariotta, who's not getting a lot
Speaker 1: of talk this offseason is going to surprise some people
Speaker 1: this year. And I'm not like a huge Mariotta guy,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying not to put too much into that
Speaker 1: one game he had on Thursday Night football with the Raiders,
Speaker 1: but I kinda kinda do. And then I texted Wish
Speaker 1: this morning because I didn't want to ask, which because
Speaker 1: he's connected obviously the Falcons, about what he was seeing
Speaker 1: and hearing about Mariota, and he had some spicy stuff.
Speaker 1: First of all, he said he's a Jimmy g caliber
Speaker 1: human being. He says he's in a different headspace. Now
Speaker 1: that's the h He's in a different headspace than he
Speaker 1: was when he kind of got gifted the job as
Speaker 1: a number two overall pick with Tennessee. He's in a
Speaker 1: good place. He runs the offensive what offense well. He
Speaker 1: moves in the pocket, obviously much better than Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: He's been great with the kid Ritter in the quarterback room.
Speaker 1: So Mariotta at this point in his career feels like
Speaker 1: this would be a point with Arthur Smith where we
Speaker 1: could surprise some people have a nice year. I think
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith is gonna gotta stay healthy yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna FedEx some weirdness into the into the playbof I
Speaker 1: really think that the Falcons um. First of all, I
Speaker 1: think Arthur Smith doesn't really get the credit he should
Speaker 1: for what happened last year. They won more games than
Speaker 1: they would have with a different coaching staff with with
Speaker 1: zero parts. If Drake London works out, if Cordarrell Patterson
Speaker 1: can redo what he did last year and be used
Speaker 1: that way, Kyle Pitts, I don't hate this offense, and
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a lot of Mariotta on
Speaker 1: the ground. I think we're gonna see Desmond Ritter at
Speaker 1: some point too, because they love him as well. And
Speaker 1: so I just hope that the organization has patience because
Speaker 1: the defense still to me, is a mess in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. But the offense is going to be
Speaker 1: creative and fun to watch. They were last year. They were,
Speaker 1: and yet their offensive line was totally unaddressed. It was
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, like they brought in some competition, but
Speaker 1: the the guys that they brought in didn't win him.
Speaker 1: So Caleb McGarry, who has been a problem, is still
Speaker 1: the right tackle. Matt Hennessy is in a battle at center.
Speaker 1: They're starting a journeyman Elijah Wilkinson. It doesn't look good.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to use some time just
Speaker 1: because we never talked to the Falcons like this is
Speaker 1: the most unknown team in the NFL. Uh. Here just
Speaker 1: some players playing for the Falcons this year. Brian Edwards.
Speaker 1: Uh looks like he's gonna be splitting a starting job
Speaker 1: with Cadero Hodge, a man who is playing professional lacrosse.
Speaker 1: This is not a joke. Jared Bernhardt had never played
Speaker 1: wide receiver in his life until this summer, made the
Speaker 1: roster as a wide receiver. Um. They their edge rushers
Speaker 1: right now. They're starting addressers are Lorenzo Cartner and a
Speaker 1: rotation of rookie Arnold Abaketty and uh Oga Dona Jay
Speaker 1: is his last name. Those are their edge rushers. Kind
Speaker 1: of a nice looking secondary on paper with with A J. Turrell,
Speaker 1: but about his unknown a team as you guys, That's
Speaker 1: why I can't pound the table for the Falcons being
Speaker 1: a playoff team. But Drake Leonard, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure to put on a Q wide receiver. He's good
Speaker 1: art if he's good, if he hits the ground running
Speaker 1: with Pitts taking that next leap. Mariotte has got some
Speaker 1: pieces to work on Patterson there too. Alright enough, I
Speaker 1: get it you're upset about Landry stinks. I agree, but
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta stay professional. Let's take a break,
Speaker 1: be right back. All right. Here we go the NFC East.
Speaker 1: As we go around the NFC in forty eight minutes,
Speaker 1: exactly mark the Cowboys. I found another area where this
Speaker 1: show does not agree with the Athletic, which is an
Speaker 1: excellent site to I get all your football knowledge. So
Speaker 1: is NFL dot com, by the way. But um, they
Speaker 1: have a wind total model that has the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: ten point six victories that is tied for third highest
Speaker 1: in the league, above the Bucks, above a bunch of others,
Speaker 1: obviously a bunch Washington, New York. That feels real different
Speaker 1: to me than the vibe on this show, at least
Speaker 1: coming the way I feel. I am pretty down in
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think the offensive line is a growing mess. Um,
Speaker 1: they're potentially asking a forty year old Jason Peters to
Speaker 1: save the day. We'll see what happens there. You're left,
Speaker 1: You're essentially left crossing your fingers. You get the full
Speaker 1: version of Michael Gallup, although it does sound like his
Speaker 1: reapts going well along along with Ceedee Lamb. But then
Speaker 1: you're asking jail and Turbert t Tolbert's to successfully filled
Speaker 1: the void. After that, they're really thin and wide receiver.
Speaker 1: After Amari Cooper was traded away for like a my
Speaker 1: little pony, figuring it's an absurd trade. Now you've got
Speaker 1: the owner joined about the fact that we're gonna get
Speaker 1: more Ezekiel Elliott and anyone's asking for at this point
Speaker 1: and less Michael Pollard and I think it's during a
Speaker 1: very rocky offseason for Dallas, their arch enemy. The Eagles
Speaker 1: have turned into this NFC darling. So you tell me
Speaker 1: why none of this matters and they'll still win ten
Speaker 1: point six games. Wish on the show on Wednesday, when
Speaker 1: he started getting pumped about the defense and Parsons as
Speaker 1: a guy that's generational talent, I was like, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: getting a little sucked into the anti hype uh turbines
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys here this year, Like because they're gonna
Speaker 1: score points, I think maybe not as many points as
Speaker 1: they scored in past years. Right, that's the that's your answer.
Speaker 1: But if the if the is really good and they
Speaker 1: have Zack Martin, a future All of Famer, and they
Speaker 1: have and they have a great on paper defense. If
Speaker 1: they if their defense is really good, let's say it is,
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys offense doesn't have to carry the load.
Speaker 1: And if they're just proficient or a little better than average,
Speaker 1: yeah that is a ticket. Just don't love teams where
Speaker 1: that's what we're saying about them opening. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence though, if he's who we think he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Sam Williams a rookie. They kept all their guys in
Speaker 1: the secondary, and they're not big names behind Trevon Digs,
Speaker 1: but they are young and have a lot of continuity.
Speaker 1: Mali Cooker and j run Chris played well for them.
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised they didn't do more. They have all
Speaker 1: this cap space. We talked about the Cooper thing, but
Speaker 1: they haven't filled that offensive life like they didn't make
Speaker 1: a splashy move there. They didn't make another splashy move
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Well, they were hamstrung for a bunch
Speaker 1: of like the cap issues seemed to be the one
Speaker 1: team where the cap stuff affected Dallas to make a
Speaker 1: safe But they have a ton of cap space? Now
Speaker 1: what am I missing? So I'm just saying even now,
Speaker 1: like they seem like a team that would make a
Speaker 1: trade for an offensive line maybe they will in the season,
Speaker 1: or a receiver or another. Except Terry Jones always seems
Speaker 1: to see a super Bowl team no matter what is
Speaker 1: happening in reality. Are you? Are you frank like the
Speaker 1: trade of Cooper that they didn't take that salary cap
Speaker 1: space that that created and use it. I'm sitting on
Speaker 1: basically ultimately, yeah, And that's why that's why they made that.
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to keep things like that open. Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons extensions, I know, I know. I'm sorry Eagles, Greg Okay,
Speaker 1: I grave take her smiling back there about all the
Speaker 1: trigger happy gun show, I spoken enough? Why? Like I
Speaker 1: love the too deep on this roster, how tough they'll
Speaker 1: be to defend with. I think A. J. Brown's gonna
Speaker 1: have a monster season. I think they're running game is
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome with herds Um, But I am curious
Speaker 1: what they're gonna look like schematically on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball. They went from kind of like topical Nick
Speaker 1: sirianni Um like the way they looked in Indianapolis short
Speaker 1: passing game to so run heavy in the middle of
Speaker 1: last season. What does that look like this year? And
Speaker 1: then on defense they were as conservative and vanilla a defense,
Speaker 1: just keep the ball in front of you, don't do
Speaker 1: anything else, forced long drives and hope like our offense
Speaker 1: can win, kind of slow down the game. On defense,
Speaker 1: very conservative, almost boring. Now they have all this talent,
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious how the Eagles are gonna approach
Speaker 1: this schematically on both sides of the ball. That to
Speaker 1: me is a big question. I remember, like Fletcher Coxs
Speaker 1: sort of voicing annoyance with that that that tone on defense,
Speaker 1: that is the Jonathan Gannon way to some degree. And
Speaker 1: now they got some They got some fiery players here
Speaker 1: with with they got better players in the back end. Certainly.
Speaker 1: You know what I learned about Sirianni because a year ago,
Speaker 1: we're just like, this guy does not understand press conferences.
Speaker 1: We didn't know much about them. But they will adjust.
Speaker 1: I think they got the people the people to do it.
Speaker 1: But like when they made that shift to run heavy,
Speaker 1: I love teams that do That's like, whatever we're doing
Speaker 1: is not working, Let's just change everything. I expected to
Speaker 1: be especially with a J. Brown in this in the fold,
Speaker 1: a much more balanced team. They didn't they were able
Speaker 1: to get rid of Jalen Reagor because they've got wide
Speaker 1: out strength. Now they've got good, good situation at tight end,
Speaker 1: and I think Jalen Hurts is gonna be asked to
Speaker 1: do more than just run as much as he did
Speaker 1: a year ago. Yeah. I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: big questions I have because I understand it's justified that
Speaker 1: people that are excited about the Eagles this year because
Speaker 1: they did make the playoffs and then they got the
Speaker 1: roster better and it's another year for the quarterback in
Speaker 1: the system and his maturity and he has a lot
Speaker 1: of upside. But is he somebody that could take advantage
Speaker 1: of a guy like a J. Brown. Is he have
Speaker 1: that in him as a pastor to take the next step,
Speaker 1: because if he does, if Hurts takes that next step, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is another c powerhouse potentially. I love the pass
Speaker 1: rush like I love the Jordan Davis I think would
Speaker 1: be talked about if he was on some other team
Speaker 1: a lot more like Javon Hargrave is coming off a
Speaker 1: monster season. I think Kaisier White it's a linebacker that
Speaker 1: position they've struggled that they really love. Maybe Rookie and
Speaker 1: Kobe didn't like Hassan. I just maybe it's a little
Speaker 1: to a dream team. Is this is the perfect moment
Speaker 1: for Eagles. Homer's like me, I think it's I mean
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to say, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like it all you can get worse. The two
Speaker 1: like the depth chart looks so pristine and dream team
Speaker 1: actually just looked good because it was a bum rush
Speaker 1: of free agent editions. There's like, this is the best
Speaker 1: offensive line in football. Also, we should good in the
Speaker 1: trenches text there because there are a lot of listeners.
Speaker 1: We've been doing this long enough that don't even know
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I'm the awesome when free agency
Speaker 1: happened like midsummer after the lockout ended, and it and
Speaker 1: it just created this insane like tornado of signings for
Speaker 1: the Eagles. But the parts were not actually that special
Speaker 1: if you looked at them. Nice summation, Bro, that was
Speaker 1: dead on. What would you correct from it? Nothing? Legimer,
Speaker 1: They're a complete mystery to me as we opened the season,
Speaker 1: because I look at an offensive line that's probably improved
Speaker 1: a toolsy I'll still give it to him, A toolsy
Speaker 1: young QB with vastly improved coaching, solid collection of playmakers
Speaker 1: surrounding that young tools a QB. And then I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: this could be one of the most improved offenses in
Speaker 1: football this season. And by the way, that's relative, because
Speaker 1: they were at the floor last year by the time
Speaker 1: Joe Judges running of town. Then I look at the
Speaker 1: offense five another angle and think, Daniel Jones can't play,
Speaker 1: se Kwan is washed. The receivers are overpaid, unproven, or
Speaker 1: injury prone, some all three at once, and a major
Speaker 1: overhaul is a head next spring. So if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, I'd say I'm slightly more confident that they'll
Speaker 1: surprise some people this year. But this one is a
Speaker 1: riddle wrapped in a mystery inside and enigma sitting on
Speaker 1: the corner of conundrum and ambingcuity. That put that one
Speaker 1: in a little I put that one in a little
Speaker 1: dress with a bow on time. Hope. What me the
Speaker 1: middle mystery wrapped inside a riddle inside an enigma. I
Speaker 1: don't know what is it? JFK Is it really alright?
Speaker 1: It's not a take, It is a fact they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not that big of a mystery and maybe I'll
Speaker 1: be wrong, so you know, but Football Outsiders, for instance,
Speaker 1: has been projected as the worst team Outsider. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that's the worst overall team. So that's I think
Speaker 1: they have that potential. Here's a quote UM talking about
Speaker 1: the expo, a quote from their general manager this week,
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, about the expectations, and he said, well, it's
Speaker 1: the hand that we were dealt. This feels like a
Speaker 1: transition year. I don't know if we're overrating the preseason.
Speaker 1: But in offense, UM starring like three slot guys, two
Speaker 1: of which are hurt. You know, I like cod Aius
Speaker 1: Tony but he's always hurt, Shepherd who's always hurt, and
Speaker 1: then the rookie Wandell Robinson and then another guy, Kenny
Speaker 1: Golladay who what was the quote so Jordan Nan ESPN
Speaker 1: said that Kenny Gollady and quote has been running routes
Speaker 1: this summer with the stiffness of a mannequin, which if
Speaker 1: you're new to football, that's not a positive. So that
Speaker 1: that makes me worried for Daniel Jones that like it's
Speaker 1: not quite there around him. What if I just what
Speaker 1: if when the Giants are top ten offense in November,
Speaker 1: I knock on the door of the headquarters of Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders and I just go, you just keep screaming that sec.
Speaker 1: I think that would be like Aaron shots house. To
Speaker 1: be fair to them, I think part of it is
Speaker 1: that they have him as the worst defense in the league.
Speaker 1: I think the offense was projected to be slightly more.
Speaker 1: Do not read into me saying the worst defense. This
Speaker 1: is not an offensive maybe makes up for and Don
Speaker 1: Martindale loves to leave his cornerbacks on an island and
Speaker 1: blitz like crazy. And you look at this team and
Speaker 1: you're like, which team? The Giants team. You're like, do
Speaker 1: they have the personnel for that? I don't think so
Speaker 1: at cornerback. All right, the commanders, We're ready to take
Speaker 1: command on this for the next three minutes, uh sir.
Speaker 1: Some first round picks get less buzz than others. I
Speaker 1: think Johan Dotson, selected sixteenth overall, falls in that category.
Speaker 1: We heard good things about him, that he's a polished
Speaker 1: route runner. That and when you were that you can
Speaker 1: hit the ground running in the NFL, then you factor
Speaker 1: in a healthy Curtis Samuel right, who's another playmaker who
Speaker 1: was laying in the weeds a little bit after a
Speaker 1: year lost injury. And then you have the centerpiece here,
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, who I think is like a top twenty
Speaker 1: receiver number true, number one, throwing a little frisky tight
Speaker 1: end in Logan Thomas. I know he's coming back from
Speaker 1: injury as well. Uh. And I'll just put it this way.
Speaker 1: You don't have to love the quarterback in Washington, but
Speaker 1: his cast of playmakers comes with some legit upside, a
Speaker 1: lot of commanders in Washington, d C. And the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: It was partially true last year too. I mean, so
Speaker 1: you you for me, I I don't disagree with your
Speaker 1: point at all. Emmuel though was kind of Samuel was
Speaker 1: out of the picture and we didn't have Dot, But
Speaker 1: I mean Antonio Gibson was a big part of it.
Speaker 1: For me, it's the defense. I think that Ron Rivera's
Speaker 1: calling card is I'm gonna come in and dominate teams
Speaker 1: and we're gonna win games fourteen to ten. And the
Speaker 1: defense last year was the worst third down defense in
Speaker 1: the league by various metrics, and in the preseason they
Speaker 1: were the worst third down defense in the league and
Speaker 1: gave up the highest conversion rate Chase Young for at
Speaker 1: least four Right, you're missing guys, and you know there
Speaker 1: is talent on the on upfront on that defense, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But they just um the year
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. Go look at the quarterbacks they
Speaker 1: faced last year when they was more adjusted to normalized
Speaker 1: they won seven games. I just I'm struggling to see
Speaker 1: the direction of this team, and the commanders should have directions,
Speaker 1: got to take command and have direction to do so.
Speaker 1: I think this time last year, as we all know,
Speaker 1: decided to really go ahead and start to take command.
Speaker 1: You gotta say it with authority, Carson, Let's take what
Speaker 1: do one more? Take that's all on the social and
Speaker 1: take seven? Take seven? Uh yeah, I remember this time
Speaker 1: last year. They were the buzzy team too, as like
Speaker 1: laying in the weeds because of their defense. They don't
Speaker 1: hear that this year, no, they It's kind of Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera's last stand potentially like as a head coach, but
Speaker 1: at least for me, as like a guy who you
Speaker 1: really trust can create a defense that's greater than the
Speaker 1: some of their parts. And I do think they're they
Speaker 1: still have Montes Sweat. Even before Chase Young returns Jonathan Allen,
Speaker 1: they still have some good veterans I think in the
Speaker 1: in the secondary, Kendall Fuller played well for them. They
Speaker 1: have William Jaxon. I don't think they're talent poor, but
Speaker 1: he's got to improve their defense right away. They I
Speaker 1: don't know, because they went from a great defense in
Speaker 1: twenty under him to a terrible defense in one. And
Speaker 1: if Rivera has given you a bad defense again this year,
Speaker 1: then kind of what are you getting out of him?
Speaker 1: I'm really i gotta say, we're about to three minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm really proud that we went this entire Washington segment
Speaker 1: without just do windmiddle dunks on Carson. Well that we've
Speaker 1: done that all offseason, two handed thunder dunks. It's like
Speaker 1: Rock and Jack with the trampline. Time out. Let me
Speaker 1: show Greg's outs done. It calls time out to talk
Speaker 1: more about what was it? I had points I wanted
Speaker 1: to make up. I wrote them and everything a huge hit.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Steve Weish theme songs. UM really happy
Speaker 1: with how that turned out. Now, if you remember, we
Speaker 1: asked the listeners also to come up with the new
Speaker 1: commander's fight song and I had graver check in. Oh
Speaker 1: I was going to let those sit in the inbox
Speaker 1: for eighteen months? Is that not the plan this time?
Speaker 1: No comment, Um, I would like to hear just one,
Speaker 1: just pick one. I know there was some they were good,
Speaker 1: some I'm not so hot. Let's just hear one. And
Speaker 1: if you if people aren't aware because of the team
Speaker 1: name change, they they're changing the lyrics. They're keeping the
Speaker 1: bed music, which is some type of march, marching band
Speaker 1: type vibe. I think let's hear from a listener. Who
Speaker 1: is it, Greg Gamato? Hope, I'm saying that right? Well,
Speaker 1: all right over here, all right, here we go. Here
Speaker 1: we are. It's time to start to take command. There's
Speaker 1: no question we won't, sir. Here we are. We always
Speaker 1: have the upper hand without jepherdizing our stand dirds all
Speaker 1: hands are people that you cannot stand. We say we're
Speaker 1: from GC, but we're from the room and oh here
Speaker 1: we are. Here we are where the Washington commanders. There
Speaker 1: are forty four more seconds. It's time we get the
Speaker 1: picture that sounds like I hurt Washington fan on some level,
Speaker 1: digs in there. None of us are from that area.
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a lot of DC Maryland.
Speaker 1: They do play in Landover. Yeah, that makes sense. Uh,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I think the Washington football team over
Speaker 1: the years has it maybe not taken criticism from the media,
Speaker 1: especially with a lot of grace. So I feel like
Speaker 1: putting it in their own theme song would be a
Speaker 1: big step for them. But yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: need to hear the second verse of the song. But
Speaker 1: I would have gotten some stuff in about the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: I would have. Ye, you gotta get that. I think
Speaker 1: it had captured the spirit of what we were looking to.
Speaker 1: It was Mark, it's a five sided fortress, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's essentially it's I think you should be
Speaker 1: genuine thing at the altar of the military headquarters. A
Speaker 1: lot of people respect the Pentagon. I do understand that
Speaker 1: that's the concept of the country. Someone on Twitter got
Speaker 1: really bad at me. They were like, it's like, I
Speaker 1: really like greg and in the show, but it's like
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's like Mark
Speaker 1: has got this covered on the Pentagon. It's like like
Speaker 1: when he's trying to get into politics and really believing
Speaker 1: the Pentagon wake up sheeple. I really enjoyed that guy.
Speaker 1: I think it's time to give the Pentagon the respect
Speaker 1: it deserves. But either way, I'm on the inside on
Speaker 1: this one. Five sided fortress is what it is, a
Speaker 1: fortress of purity. It's a temple to defense all right.
Speaker 1: Time in Let's move to the NFC North greg the Bears.
Speaker 1: So it's been a lot of negativity, including from me
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Bears. So I do want
Speaker 1: to make the case for the Bears, um offensively, especially
Speaker 1: uh in general, making the case for the Bears, because
Speaker 1: I think every team has a chance. I truly do.
Speaker 1: And the case here is that it's a different offense.
Speaker 1: It's Luke Getsy who sprinkles some of that Packers system dust.
Speaker 1: And that what you saw in the third preseason game,
Speaker 1: which we haven't spoken about, Justin Fields baled out showed
Speaker 1: off his skills that Phil Wesselena and Ohio State fan
Speaker 1: who are very close next week when we make our
Speaker 1: locks of the week, good call, and we'll be hearing
Speaker 1: from him if Fields balls out that Like, look, Justin
Speaker 1: Fields is good enough that he can carry a somewhat
Speaker 1: competent offense into being watchable and exciting, and you do
Speaker 1: have two weapons to throw to in Darnell Mooney and
Speaker 1: Cole Commet that I think are really good NFL players,
Speaker 1: and you could have a good running game in Montgomery
Speaker 1: and Herbert and that if Fields is that dude in
Speaker 1: this new system where that makes the line look better,
Speaker 1: that he shows enough that you're just like excited, because
Speaker 1: that's all the Bears have ever wanted is a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And he can still if you are truly that guy,
Speaker 1: I think he could rise above um some of the
Speaker 1: deficient I think a lot of the critique is the
Speaker 1: fact that you did this in reverse order. You get
Speaker 1: your young quarterback, then you have in roster tear down
Speaker 1: and which a lot of that was on the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball. But I think you're right because
Speaker 1: he looked to me much more comfortable this preseason and
Speaker 1: especially in that third game, and Cole Commet and he
Speaker 1: had had really good chemistry, and so Cole Commet develops
Speaker 1: into a real weapon, I don't. I think there's just
Speaker 1: a lack of depth at at wide receiver and you
Speaker 1: just can't march into an NFL season with one guy
Speaker 1: and then maybe hoping the other guys project into something more,
Speaker 1: But it's that they could be in a much better
Speaker 1: place a year from now to rosterwise, if Equon st
Speaker 1: Brown can step up but he didn't with Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: at Byron Pringle. If he gets in the mix, but
Speaker 1: like he didn't with Patrick Mahomes, it just feels like
Speaker 1: they're missing right. And I guess I was going to
Speaker 1: continue to make the case it would kind of be
Speaker 1: like Field shows enough and he's good enough as a
Speaker 1: second year quarterback to help elevate and that look at
Speaker 1: a defensive coach who did draft for defense, and the
Speaker 1: defense helps them stay in games and at least you
Speaker 1: feel like it's headed in the right direction, that's all
Speaker 1: that matter. Like if we leave this season saying like
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is a starting quarterback in the NFL, I
Speaker 1: think everyone's gonna be and they have like four billion
Speaker 1: dollars worth of cap space next off season, right, he
Speaker 1: needs a long runway for an evaluation. I just hope
Speaker 1: that he we're not talking about next summer, when is
Speaker 1: he going to get a real chance to show whether
Speaker 1: you can play or not. I worry, but the line
Speaker 1: looks terrible or on paper, and so you're just hoping
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be coaching that makes them better. That happens sometimes,
Speaker 1: and we don't know this coaching stuff, but it does.
Speaker 1: Like the number two wide receiver is Equan Brown right now?
Speaker 1: Quite amnious. Um, but he has been hurt. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: are there two in their probably Pringle if he's healthy.
Speaker 1: The lines, If we are buying into the idea of
Speaker 1: the lines making a year two leap, are we I
Speaker 1: thought that would be more of a thing, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sensing it really. Um. But if we are, then
Speaker 1: we are believing that the quarterback is going to have
Speaker 1: some measure of success. I want to talk a little
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Um, he's having a great camp. If you
Speaker 1: don't believe me, listen to Liev Schreiber. If anyone needs
Speaker 1: the a C, it's Jared Goff. He's been hot all camp.
Speaker 1: Uh again he that was from hard Knocks. Uh. He
Speaker 1: looks good. He has a good command of the offense.
Speaker 1: He's got some decent players around him. Um. Absolutely nobody
Speaker 1: and I mean nobody looking over his shoulder in that
Speaker 1: QB room. Um. Would I be stunned if golf puts
Speaker 1: up nice numbers this year? No, I would not be stunned.
Speaker 1: He's got to stay healthy and but I think he can,
Speaker 1: and if he does, it would be interesting to see
Speaker 1: if that comes up the Lions thought process come next
Speaker 1: spring when it's time to take the quarterback we all expect.
Speaker 1: I think this that's how it ends. I think Jared
Speaker 1: Goff from the very beginning has been a bridge. Uh
Speaker 1: but what if he balls out? Do you start to
Speaker 1: think about golf? Is more of a long term answer.
Speaker 1: It's meant to be a good draft for quarterbacks number one.
Speaker 1: So I think if the Lions, they've got to be
Speaker 1: cut throat, and it could get Jared Goff is starting
Speaker 1: jobs somewhere else. But what I like the offense he's
Speaker 1: in in Detroit right now, and it's probably the kind
Speaker 1: of offense where he's gonna thrive because I would say
Speaker 1: you've got a top three offensive line. They're built that way.
Speaker 1: Alman Ross st Brown turned into a star in year one.
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams when he emerges, that's another weapon right there.
Speaker 1: T J. Hawkinson, DeAndre Swift. I think he's super version
Speaker 1: of Austin Ekeler. So it's like you got the parts
Speaker 1: on offense there almost I would almost say there isn't
Speaker 1: really an excuse for Jared Goff to have a bad
Speaker 1: season or one of his lower seasons. I think he
Speaker 1: could have a really good season. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that move him off the quarterback market, but I think
Speaker 1: they can win enough games that it makes it trickier.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about the lines last year,
Speaker 1: and I am in on them being frisky. I think
Speaker 1: it's mostly on offense, was that Dan Campbell embraced that
Speaker 1: they were kind of an offense first team at some
Speaker 1: point last year. Remember there was that. It started with
Speaker 1: that Rams game where golf played pretty well in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: There was a Haven't win over the Vikings that was
Speaker 1: their first one. They had a thirty to twelve win
Speaker 1: over the Cardinals. There was a fifty one twenty nine
Speaker 1: loss to the Seahawks, but I remember he was back
Speaker 1: and forth. There's a thirty seven thirty like win over
Speaker 1: the Packers. Backups at the end like they I think
Speaker 1: they could be a fun offensive team, and I think
Speaker 1: Campbell will embrace whatever it takes to win, and that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna take I think for this team. Offense first,
Speaker 1: I am buying in a little bit. I just want
Speaker 1: you know what I think they're one. They they changed
Speaker 1: my feelings about Hard Knocks. They certainly changed my feelings
Speaker 1: about who they are. From a coaching staff angle, I
Speaker 1: think it's one of the more creative. They're young coaching
Speaker 1: staffs in the league, and that matters. They're deep, defensively
Speaker 1: upfront to like they're not even gonna have their second
Speaker 1: round pick Pascal uh and Oguara at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season. Rodrigo is a great Hard Knocks underdog story.
Speaker 1: He's a sixth round pick that I could start. Think
Speaker 1: he's starting the Green Bay Packers. They're on talk about
Speaker 1: time out? Good thing Greg is talking about him. Why
Speaker 1: are they on tugboat time out? You don't know about
Speaker 1: tugboat time out? You just know you don't You don't
Speaker 1: believe in them or something. Are you gonna say anything
Speaker 1: during that? Yeah? I don't need you know what. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say anything because they're on tugboat, which
Speaker 1: makes even tougher on Mark and I. For some reason,
Speaker 1: they haven't started the clock. I don't think that's how
Speaker 1: the tug about branded a tugbot time out. Sessy stop
Speaker 1: too late. I already already took them. You have to
Speaker 1: you have to do a sessy stop for a different team.
Speaker 1: Greg by himself is not a dream. I look at
Speaker 1: this team defensively and think you can make a case
Speaker 1: time out. You can make a case that they're among
Speaker 1: the best defensive teams personnel wise in the in the NFL,
Speaker 1: like a top three to five defense. They just didn't
Speaker 1: produce like that last year. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's depth, but just that's Dan making a lot of noise,
Speaker 1: taking off his headset. Just for the audio listeners. You
Speaker 1: can check us out on YouTube too and see it. Uh,
Speaker 1: every single position is potentially filled by an above average starter.
Speaker 1: The secondaries dynamite with Gyre Alexander Back and their safeties.
Speaker 1: They love Eric Stokes. They gave Razul Douglas that money.
Speaker 1: Quay Walker's their rookie who's playing linebacker, improving kind of
Speaker 1: a weak spot, and they love what he's done in camp.
Speaker 1: They're really deep around Kenny Clark now in terms of
Speaker 1: their pass rush like one to eleven Mark, there's a
Speaker 1: lot to love on defense. Can Joe Berry kind of
Speaker 1: deliver that? And that gives Aaron Rodgers a little time
Speaker 1: to kind of get up to speed with with the rest.
Speaker 1: I think so, I'm looking at it from A to Z,
Speaker 1: and there isn't really a weak spot here. Maybe defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: but even then, like Geron Reid, who's a solid veteran,
Speaker 1: and DeVante White, who was a first round pick, Like
Speaker 1: I think, just to be another year into Joe Berry's
Speaker 1: system helps, They're gonna probably have to win games a
Speaker 1: little bit Differently. They were a good defense last year
Speaker 1: for stretches. They certainly weren't the pass packers where it's
Speaker 1: like they're going to be the reason they're fine. They
Speaker 1: were like average, Yeah, there weren't. They weren't the liability
Speaker 1: that of years past to me and to me, I
Speaker 1: think my bigger questions are just on offense. It's like
Speaker 1: I want to see down the stretch if these wide
Speaker 1: receivers actually equal DeAndre Hopkins. To me, I'm suspicious of this.
Speaker 1: We're saying that about two or three teams this offseason.
Speaker 1: It's just like we will see. I'm remembering now that
Speaker 1: the day time out was kind of about like you
Speaker 1: have to prove it to me, I've been through this
Speaker 1: before with you, but like they can't do anything until January.
Speaker 1: So are you at a time out for every episode,
Speaker 1: every like a lot of contents. It would be a
Speaker 1: strong bit to be honest and hey, look we can
Speaker 1: fill that time. I don't know, uh. Offensive line going
Speaker 1: into the year, though, is their biggest quay. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, that's a bigger question. When you're a great quarterback,
Speaker 1: you can make your receivers better. You can't make your
Speaker 1: offensive line that much better. If Elton Jenkins in bok
Speaker 1: tr aren't healthy in the interior, are just kind of
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are just guys. That's a
Speaker 1: That's that's my bigger concern. If Jenkins in bok tr
Speaker 1: are healthy, super Bowl possibility certainly talk for seventeen more seconds.
Speaker 1: You've got no I just I want to see you
Speaker 1: just stretch. I mean, Alan Lazard, you guys were like
Speaker 1: giving him a lot of grief last episode, a lot
Speaker 1: of physical or maybe an old tugboat time out. I
Speaker 1: don't think I mentioned al zarnths the Minnesota Vikings. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: all right, it's early January. What are we saying about
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. Is it closer to Wow? This Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: tree is a beautiful thing of nature, producing endless juicy fruit.
Speaker 1: The latest example being O'Connell's ability to transform this Vikings
Speaker 1: offense into rams North and helping Kirk Cousins to his
Speaker 1: mightiest season yet, turning Justin Jefferson into the offensive player
Speaker 1: of the year, taking it to Green Bay in a
Speaker 1: huge week seventeen tilt at Lambeau. Wow, this was a
Speaker 1: great higher and we dig the front office too or man,
Speaker 1: it seems like the same old team to me, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: While I have them as a playoff team, well they've
Speaker 1: been there before, um, so I do think they will
Speaker 1: be very competitive. Uh, I think they could be on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. But I do like, here's
Speaker 1: the thing I think you said an outstand what was
Speaker 1: the way you described Kirk cousins potential season might I
Speaker 1: don't think that's exists, I think, and I think that's
Speaker 1: part of Kirk Cousins's charm. I think we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the same Cousins that we always get about thirty to
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns past rating about one oh one or so. Um,
Speaker 1: he'll move the ball, he'll go into funks, he'll be
Speaker 1: unconscious for stretches. I think one big thing about their
Speaker 1: offense that they missed last year and explained their tailspin
Speaker 1: was Adam Feeland getting hurt. I think he's such a
Speaker 1: great number two. He's a perfect robin to the Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson batman. And if you have those three, that big three,
Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook healthy and Cousins ability to just put
Speaker 1: it on the money, they're a top ten offense. Now, Greg,
Speaker 1: I think you would like that Vikings fence because their defense.
Speaker 1: Can they do enough to get them to ten winds.
Speaker 1: I'm not that excited about the defense. There's a case
Speaker 1: that they have a high upside, a high ceiling. The
Speaker 1: front said Aius Smith and Danio Hunter have been healthy
Speaker 1: this preseason, and if they're healthy and at their peaks,
Speaker 1: that's as good a duo as there is. And then
Speaker 1: inside you've got Harrison Phillips and Dalvin Tomlinson who are
Speaker 1: like really good run stoppers and suddenly got a little
Speaker 1: like Williams Wall Vikings, you know in the Randy Moss
Speaker 1: era defensive line throwback situation going on, and you figure
Speaker 1: you can coach up the rest of it. Their defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators is Ed Dontel, who's sort of it's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that's been passed around and like it is
Speaker 1: in the system that Kevin, like Kevin O'Connell and Donnitel
Speaker 1: both seemed to me like they're sort of at the
Speaker 1: end of their coaching trees. It's like no one's even
Speaker 1: mentioned Kevin O'Connell. He's a young, strapping man um from
Speaker 1: the McVeigh coaching tree, and yet like they both seemed
Speaker 1: like they were like kind of the forgotten pickups from
Speaker 1: those coaching I mean, he had been a bunch of
Speaker 1: places before the McVeigh thing too, and not shined as
Speaker 1: an offensive play car can think of a couple of stops.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's this was the team of
Speaker 1: any team in the league outside of Jacksonville that most
Speaker 1: needed to make a coaching switch, because when Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: went out the door, all you heard was about the
Speaker 1: heaviness in the building, that it had just gotten too
Speaker 1: negative and too rough around the edges, like veterans were saying,
Speaker 1: I think that the offense and Kirk Cousins are He's
Speaker 1: a huge beneficiary of having someone that's going to come
Speaker 1: in the building and like care about Kirk Cousins because
Speaker 1: we have spent all last offseason talking about the near
Speaker 1: malays between Zimmer and Cousins and the whole I know
Speaker 1: the COVID thing was part of it too. I ended
Speaker 1: that exactly on top of what Let's take a break
Speaker 1: and then hit the NFC West. All right, let's close
Speaker 1: it out with starting with the defending champion Rams. This
Speaker 1: could be a good time for your SSI stop the
Speaker 1: Rams the topic now, mark no, because I would like
Speaker 1: you to know everyone that this whole means disliking the
Speaker 1: RAMS thing is is a fabrication at this point, like
Speaker 1: me hating the Texans, right, I was fighting. I fight
Speaker 1: against this narrative because it's it's now not true. A
Speaker 1: go ahead, then, Okay, do you think that this RAMS
Speaker 1: team could come out of the gates just on fight
Speaker 1: like they struck us? And they seem publicly as about
Speaker 1: as confident as like you could possibly be. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of continuity, they have a lot of star power,
Speaker 1: and there's this idea that it's hard to defend your title. Yes,
Speaker 1: to finish the deal. Okay, but how about how those
Speaker 1: teams recently have started the next season. Patriots, I would say,
Speaker 1: one of the worst recent champions just says like overall
Speaker 1: talent actually started the next year like seven and O
Speaker 1: nine and O House on Fire when the Chiefs were
Speaker 1: defending their title. They're scoring like forty points a game
Speaker 1: in September. The Bucks last season, to start the season,
Speaker 1: we're scoring thirty to forty points a games. Started fantastic.
Speaker 1: I think you get a certain sort of confidence, and
Speaker 1: you have a continuity where you're a step ahead of
Speaker 1: these other teams. It wouldn't surprise me at all for
Speaker 1: them to come into the season and look fantastic as
Speaker 1: one of the teams in the end. I like I
Speaker 1: like this a lot because I think if you read
Speaker 1: that feature that came out on Sean McVeigh a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, it I mean, this is an obsessive individual,
Speaker 1: and I think the weight of that other Super Bowl
Speaker 1: loss and the seasons after affected him in ways that
Speaker 1: it wouldn't maybe a different type of coach and a
Speaker 1: different type of human being. And I kind of get
Speaker 1: I know I've made this comparison before. If it all clicks,
Speaker 1: it's such a star heavy roster. You kind of get
Speaker 1: that eighty eight Niners team wherein eighty nine they came
Speaker 1: out and just blue doors off left and right, and
Speaker 1: if they can knock off the Bills in the opener
Speaker 1: a week from tonight, you get the Falcons, doable Cardinals,
Speaker 1: doable Niners, Okay, tough Cowboys. We'll see Panthers by week,
Speaker 1: niners again, and then the Bucks you could you're talking
Speaker 1: five and one, six and one, potentially seven and O
Speaker 1: type start if they're as good as we think they're. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course I do now need to see now
Speaker 1: that they can't hide it anymore. How Matthew Stafford's gonna
Speaker 1: look physically, because if he's not right, the whole thing's over.
Speaker 1: And that's part of like my overall feeling about the
Speaker 1: Rams is that, yes, it's all there, everything's in place
Speaker 1: for them to make another deep playoff run and even
Speaker 1: win the whole thing. But there's a reason nobody repeats
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it hasn't happened in almost twenty years,
Speaker 1: is that everything kind of has to fall into place.
Speaker 1: And I think that's how it worked for Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and then they overcame some injury issues late in the season.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald's gotta stay healthy. These guys are now
Speaker 1: getting start to get a little bit older, um, and
Speaker 1: we gotta see his Cooper Cup gonna have the same
Speaker 1: season as he did last year. I like Gallen Robinson
Speaker 1: a lot. Is that going to work out the way
Speaker 1: they wanted? Everything worked out last year for them to
Speaker 1: win each one of those games close? But they were
Speaker 1: a good team that they were streaky team, and I
Speaker 1: think they could be streaky and and I think it
Speaker 1: would be a positive streak to start. Who's the running
Speaker 1: back by the way, who's like they're guy crossing your fingers.
Speaker 1: They don't stay health. I'm gonna make the case this
Speaker 1: team is fun to watch. People don't seem to be
Speaker 1: looking for and it's not even gonna use the G word. Okay,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett are still on this team,
Speaker 1: by the way, one of the best duos in the league.
Speaker 1: You got Rashid Penny and Kenneth Walker, I think, a
Speaker 1: really fun running back duo. And then more than anything,
Speaker 1: you got Pete Carroll in like uh post Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: post Russell Wilson, Uh, you know, silver Fox. I don't
Speaker 1: give what mode. They didn't like each other, or at
Speaker 1: least they didn't like how the credit was a portion
Speaker 1: him and Russell Wilson. It's a little bit of like
Speaker 1: a Jimmy Johnson Jerry Jones situation, but more polite about it.
Speaker 1: And what Pete Carroll did great Ones was take some
Speaker 1: interesting talent on defense and make it all work in
Speaker 1: a fun, sort of ugly way. I think he's got
Speaker 1: some players to do that with Jamal Adams, hopefully he's healthy,
Speaker 1: Tariq will In, this freaky rookie who's probably gonna start
Speaker 1: for them. They've got a lot upfront. Puna affords a
Speaker 1: fun like I think, actually the Pete Carroll revenge season
Speaker 1: could be a lot of fun. No A fan, how
Speaker 1: about that? A lot of fun? No Ah fan, how
Speaker 1: about that? A lot of fun. I'm just saying, these
Speaker 1: are athletic players. I think they draft really athletic players,
Speaker 1: and so to me, that's fun. A lot of athletic
Speaker 1: players in our league. I have an alive branch, especially
Speaker 1: athletic like freaky sort of combine time types and all
Speaker 1: of branch for you. Because I I am exhausted with
Speaker 1: my exhaustion towards Geno Smith and so what I because
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into the season with any
Speaker 1: of that business. I want to just start fresh. So
Speaker 1: I am starting over about four weeks until Drew Lock. Well,
Speaker 1: if he, if he, if they, if either of them
Speaker 1: annoy me want come the regular season. That's different. But
Speaker 1: he actually, I don't think he is getting quite the
Speaker 1: credit that he should for how he played in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, he was killed with drops, but he had
Speaker 1: the most big play throws of any quarterback in the preseason.
Speaker 1: I know he played a lot too, but I I'm
Speaker 1: it's a one year patch and that can cannot be
Speaker 1: their long term plan. But Gino Smith, along with everything
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you could see them not being a disaster.
Speaker 1: They can win games. They could win nine games eight.
Speaker 1: The absolute ceiling is nine games with Gino Smith and
Speaker 1: Drew Lock behind center. It's the it's the atypical non
Speaker 1: not based around a quarterback team. I'm raising it to ten.
Speaker 1: I just uh, I like this Pete Carroll. You didn't
Speaker 1: mention he's athletic. He's athletic, He's a he's a mover.
Speaker 1: Who's the movie star that your your mom is into?
Speaker 1: Is it Richard Gear? I believe she's into Carol, so
Speaker 1: I thought she had a big Richard gear fascination. I
Speaker 1: just night like Snyder Snyder Revival Schneider has been struggling lately.
Speaker 1: Old John Schneider, you know the shirt off in the
Speaker 1: locker room. These this rookie class, on paper, could have
Speaker 1: a bigger impact than any rookie class in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They've got depth and they've got time. Rank among your
Speaker 1: twelve favorite teams that you have, You've adopted twelve teams
Speaker 1: at this point. You got one second fourth quick time
Speaker 1: out here. Drew locks on this team because Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: was traded. Nice return on that deal. Get Drew Lock
Speaker 1: in your building. Can't even beat out Geno Smith. Okay,
Speaker 1: but good news for they set the first round draffic
Speaker 1: I don't think the center piece of the d they
Speaker 1: probably like accepted to take true luck, I know, but
Speaker 1: like they probably like, oh, well, he could be our
Speaker 1: bridge guy and not Gino. Gino's our backup. And then
Speaker 1: they got to camp and they're like, no, here we go. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the dever Broncos agreed to a five
Speaker 1: year extension worth two five million, including one sixty five
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. So the Broncos, who have handled this beautifully
Speaker 1: every step of the way, they pulled the trigger on
Speaker 1: a blockbuster to get a Hall of Fame CALIBERT quarterback
Speaker 1: with years of his prime left, and now they quickly
Speaker 1: take care of business. Baltimore Ravens, are you paying attention
Speaker 1: and lock your franchise start up? Focus on football? Everybody wins.
Speaker 1: I can't argue with that. The i'd liked. I want
Speaker 1: to see the details of the hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. I know that it's said that sometimes
Speaker 1: you find out more after the fact. That's interesting to
Speaker 1: me because that that is the second most guarantee, you know,
Speaker 1: highest amount of guaranteed money in the in the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL by quite a bit, Like Watson is
Speaker 1: number one by quite a bit. And now Wilson was
Speaker 1: almost sort of meeting the Watson deal Kyler Murray's point,
Speaker 1: but that was like a lot of fuzzy stuff in
Speaker 1: there too, Like it's that's yeah, like the Kyler wasn't
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. So I I don't know, I'm interested in that,
Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do? You have to go
Speaker 1: all in. I just want to commend um Kevin Patrick
Speaker 1: for the lead in the article on dot Com quote
Speaker 1: Broncos Country, let's sign Oh well, Pat Russell Wilson problem.
Speaker 1: Patro is a pro uh. That is it's so smooth,
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five million guaranteed. Russell Wilson an established
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl quarterback, a Super Bowl champion, and Watson got
Speaker 1: two thirty that deals that was actually, you know, to
Speaker 1: that point, it has not been the thing that the
Speaker 1: owners were afraid of. To this point, it's not. That's
Speaker 1: an interesting where it's not everyone has to sign, you know,
Speaker 1: these top guys because even Russell Wilson. Look, I think
Speaker 1: that I think I think the Cleveland's owners are persona
Speaker 1: on Grotta among the other owners because of that contract.
Speaker 1: And I actually it's the best possible result that you're
Speaker 1: not seeing any copycat scenarios contract wise to that one.
Speaker 1: Well for the other owners, right, although not for the
Speaker 1: owner in Baltimore. So if there's if you want to
Speaker 1: find one positive thing about the transaction um that caused
Speaker 1: you to divorce the Browns forever, I guess it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be positive, but for Browns fans it would be positive.
Speaker 1: That I think it's preventing Lamar Jackson from signing in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: That's the reporting is that he wants that fully guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: that the Ravens won't do it, and that that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happened before the season because of it. We'll see.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this all happened in part because
Speaker 1: the Broncos, who had unsettled ownership issues, sold to uh
Speaker 1: Walmart Walmart Air, Rob Walton and his group four point
Speaker 1: six five billion. He has the money. That's he's thirty three.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that the even guys like Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan being thirty eight, is he now thirty nine playing
Speaker 1: at like his love I think it's okay to change
Speaker 1: the timeline of quarterbacks. You are expecting Russell Wilson to
Speaker 1: be there for five years. I feel like it used
Speaker 1: to be like aged thirty four. Maybe this is obviously
Speaker 1: just throwing numbers out there, but now I feel like
Speaker 1: age thirty eight. Those guys were drinking like twelve packs
Speaker 1: of beer in the off season. Every Rivers did it,
Speaker 1: Breeze did it. It's not like it's not rare all
Speaker 1: right time in Cardinals me Kyler coming off a tumatuous
Speaker 1: offseason that ended with a massive pay day and a
Speaker 1: since um exercised contract stipulation that essentially told the football
Speaker 1: world this team doesn't believe it works hard enough. That happened.
Speaker 1: That was like the craziest story of our summer. I think.
Speaker 1: Um Anyway, I look at the Cardinals as presently constituted
Speaker 1: on offense, can't help but see a remarkable amount of
Speaker 1: pressure and responsibility on Kyler Murray two make a Honda
Speaker 1: Civic move like a Ferrari put it that way. Hollywood Brown?
Speaker 1: You like Hollywood Brown? Do you love Hollywood Brown? James Conner?
Speaker 1: I know he had a lot of touchdowns last year?
Speaker 1: You love James Conner? Are you a Rondel Moore Truther? Okay,
Speaker 1: he's a He's a good, uh second year player, Zach.
Speaker 1: It's with ninety thousand miles on the odometer. How about
Speaker 1: a j Green thousand on the odometer. I know new
Speaker 1: Copkins is coming back, but he's coming back from a
Speaker 1: p D suspension on the wrong side of thirty. Just
Speaker 1: feels like Kyler. I'm not saying he's been put in
Speaker 1: his position to fail, but this is gonna be hard
Speaker 1: work in this division especially, and this is a team
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know if it's a Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury thing. Obviously they've come out hot seasons in a
Speaker 1: row and then faded without DeAndre Hopkins at it for
Speaker 1: six games. I don't like that five of your four
Speaker 1: of your first five games include tilts against the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Rams, and the Eagles. That that's that's
Speaker 1: a playoff run right there. And I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on someone like ron dial Moore to
Speaker 1: have a much bigger role than he did last year
Speaker 1: to be used if they say they're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's an injury to James Conner, there's
Speaker 1: not much behind him at running back and you're hoping
Speaker 1: the offensive line works out. I just I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I picked him as a playoff team because I do
Speaker 1: think that if they can make an adjustment to the
Speaker 1: way the end of these seasons seemed to happen under
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, they're one of those teams that have Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: If you get what you got from him for the
Speaker 1: first twelve thirteen weeks last season, was one of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. And I think that it's
Speaker 1: forgotten a mince the dramas. I like what you did
Speaker 1: when you said their first four or five games, there's
Speaker 1: there's you know, three tilts, like he didn't reuse the
Speaker 1: word games very right early, Like that's how you're speaking
Speaker 1: as you would write your Kyler point about how he
Speaker 1: started last season where he was kind of an m
Speaker 1: VP candidate. You know, if if you can start the
Speaker 1: race in the first is well made because this is
Speaker 1: year four in the same system for a guy with
Speaker 1: all the talent in the world and a coach that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be an offensive coach, like like, this is
Speaker 1: a guy that in the money is is what it
Speaker 1: is too, that should be able to be at that
Speaker 1: m v P level if he's as good as we system.
Speaker 1: Is it a good system? Like is it proven that
Speaker 1: the doubts it's not a it's not a disaster. I
Speaker 1: just I think they've got to find a way when
Speaker 1: everyone has tape on them come October, extremely thin on
Speaker 1: defense at multiple positions. They traded for trayvon Mullen from
Speaker 1: the Raiders this week because they don't have any cornerbacks tape. Well,
Speaker 1: that would help maybe turn the xbox off for five minutes.
Speaker 1: I'll lured you into that jugular shot you threw me,
Speaker 1: all right, one more the San Francisco forty mark. All right,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, as I mentioned yesterday, has thrown three eighty
Speaker 1: nine live passes since high school. That's less than if
Speaker 1: you were like playing football three times a week as
Speaker 1: a bro with your friends on the weekends. That's not
Speaker 1: he has probably done that in practice. Okay, well, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, actually, that's not true. Greg, He's never thrown
Speaker 1: more than that number. He has played in twenty five
Speaker 1: games since hide school. Okay, talk about like not watching film.
Speaker 1: He's not even throwing. It's IM a gamer. Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: he has played five. Trevor Lawrence has played fifty three,
Speaker 1: Justin Fields forty six, Matt Jones forty seven, Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: forty three. Did you do this yourself? No, I readed
Speaker 1: its research. Some someone else did the mass. I think
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan, I don't know the answer to that,
Speaker 1: and we are we are not. There's going to be
Speaker 1: no response period for you if you do not stop
Speaker 1: interrupting me. Okay, um, I just wonder Kyle Shanahan has
Speaker 1: seen him practice for over a year, seen him in
Speaker 1: limited game action. I have pre season started off real hot,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I thinking we've turned the corner with
Speaker 1: Tray Lance, and it did not finish that way. It
Speaker 1: was real up and down. Can you I'm literally going
Speaker 1: to talk for the rest of the entire thing. Do
Speaker 1: you worry that you're over emphasizing like arcs of a
Speaker 1: preseason when it amounts to like fifteen snaps per games. Well,
Speaker 1: that's your opinion. I am not worried. I'm not worried.
Speaker 1: I think the word people were over worrying that Jimmy
Speaker 1: g did not have a playbook, and Kyle Shanahan just
Speaker 1: laughed that off. I'm just asking, do you think that
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, who said a lot of nice things about
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, actually believes in them? And what would be
Speaker 1: the scenario? How bad would they need to start for
Speaker 1: the trade Lance experiment just simply to end, because that
Speaker 1: feels like a constant drumbeat scenario if he if he falters,
Speaker 1: I'm not done talking. I just think, yeah, three straight,
Speaker 1: if he's really struggling in their two or three games
Speaker 1: under five hundred, that's it. Like it could be as
Speaker 1: early as October. I just I don't think that's he
Speaker 1: Isn't that an organizational nightmare to bench the guy you gave.
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. But I'm saying, like if
Speaker 1: the goal, as it always is ultimately is to win
Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trovia this year, like we talked about, this
Speaker 1: is great news for the Niners. They have a fallback
Speaker 1: plan now and it's a guy they know can get
Speaker 1: them where they need to go potentially depending on how
Speaker 1: you feel about Jimmy g But before that it was
Speaker 1: this loaded team and a completely unproven guy. Now you
Speaker 1: have a backup now is a bad look for the
Speaker 1: entire organization if he bombs out, it would be a
Speaker 1: terrible look. Absolutely, But I love that they now have
Speaker 1: somebody they can turn to in case that happened. But
Speaker 1: there their roster is so loaded. Their defense it might
Speaker 1: be my pick as the best defense in the league
Speaker 1: going into the season. And I think their offensive to
Speaker 1: their offensive line is a concern and Trey Lands was
Speaker 1: missing open receivers in the preseason. But it's a great roster.
Speaker 1: They could help the quarterback and that's why their season
Speaker 1: was over. If Trey Lands camp play and doesn't develop
Speaker 1: this year, and now it's not. Now they have do
Speaker 1: we have a time out still left over? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: taken just talk now. Yeah, But don't don't don't tell him. Well,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners third round pick from just a year ago,
Speaker 1: Trey Sermon, who was getting drafted awfully high in fantasy
Speaker 1: leagues a year ago, uh is now remember the Eagles
Speaker 1: they had talked trade at one point, but he actually
Speaker 1: got released quietly. That's the most of hand thing to
Speaker 1: release Sermon in year two after he said a lot
Speaker 1: of nice things about trade. Sermon also literally a week
Speaker 1: ago he said, like, Trey is amazing, Trey is going
Speaker 1: to be a huge part of our team. And then
Speaker 1: they I mean, I guess if you're trying to trade him,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But the third round picks are tricky
Speaker 1: because if it's the first or a second round pick,
Speaker 1: in most cases, unless you're Alex Leatherwood, they're gonna give
Speaker 1: you some rope. But once you get to that third
Speaker 1: round pick, you see a lot of whiffs and quick
Speaker 1: hooks on those. To be fair, they drafted Elijah Mitchell
Speaker 1: in the exact same draft in the sixth round and
Speaker 1: he's their starter. And it's a real meritocracy San Francisco.
Speaker 1: All right. That was around the NFC in forty eight minutes.
Speaker 1: Now we turn our attention to next week. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be wild. It's gonna wait, it's it's caught. Hang on,
Speaker 1: there we go. It's gonna be wild because next week
Speaker 1: is the beginning of the y Sular season. So you'll
Speaker 1: hear from us next on Tuesday. Here here's this is crazy. Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have um the Around the NFL podcast. Tuesday,
Speaker 1: We're going to have the finale of the Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: podcast with me and Connie. Tuesday, we might even have
Speaker 1: the debut of another new podcast connected to the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL family that I'm gonna hold on telling you
Speaker 1: more about at this time. We also have Tuesday's Sound
Speaker 1: Tough for You, and a regular Tuesday show Thursday. We're
Speaker 1: going to have Sandwich Props on Tuesday. By the way,
Speaker 1: Sandwich Props on Tuesday. Thursday is gonna be our week
Speaker 1: one preview show. Thursday night is gonna be our TNF
Speaker 1: recap of what game rams bills we're going maybe, and
Speaker 1: then Sunday the return excuse me, Friday, Oh, Friday Friday.
Speaker 1: We have a Friday fun show every Friday this year,
Speaker 1: uh me, Greg Mark, maybe some special guests will have
Speaker 1: a fun little show that gets us into the weekend,
Speaker 1: you get that more content, am I right? Okay? And
Speaker 1: then Sunday it is the return of the flagship show
Speaker 1: Week one recap. That's a lot it is, but we're
Speaker 1: happy to content. We're testing your love and we believe
Speaker 1: listeners that you love the show and want more content.
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to listen to each and everyone,
Speaker 1: that's up to you. But there will be some that
Speaker 1: will love it, and that Friday show will be like
Speaker 1: a little smaller shorter than the other shows. I think
Speaker 1: everyone who loves the show is gonna love it. Digger
Speaker 1: has something you didn't even mention the newest show, the
Speaker 1: other new show, Monday Night recap coming the day after that.
Speaker 1: Do we have too many shows? And Thursday Night? Yeah
Speaker 1: said Thursday Night six shows per week around the NFL.
Speaker 1: The TV show is back on NFL Network on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be kind of a look back on
Speaker 1: the week that was on the podcast side of things.
Speaker 1: So a little bit of a different show than you
Speaker 1: had last year, but still a good way to see,
Speaker 1: you know, the show from a different perspective. That's a
Speaker 1: lot it is. I am slightly concerned. What is it?
Speaker 1: Pigs get fat hogs get slaughtered and all the video
Speaker 1: shows can be viewed on the NFL Fast Channel as
Speaker 1: well as listened to in audio. So do both. I've
Speaker 1: yet to get to the point where I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: really sick of hearing myself talk. I haven't gotten to
Speaker 1: that point where we're gonna test it this year. So
Speaker 1: that's what this season is all about. We're gonna test it. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, Power Rankings is back next week and
Speaker 1: every week after that until January or February. And Mark,
Speaker 1: you're taking on QB indexes that rollout next week. I
Speaker 1: believe it's the week. I mean it's gonna respond to
Speaker 1: the games after now you I think you do. So
Speaker 1: I've been a great start, not until a big one
Speaker 1: like set the table off into the season. They asked
Speaker 1: the question of our editor if that's actually put it
Speaker 1: this way, and put it this way, it's always been
Speaker 1: on the schedule before. And if I have to file
Speaker 1: a Power Rankings on Monday morning for games that haven't
Speaker 1: been played yet, you should have to file the X
Speaker 1: before because we have already been done with it. Knowing
Speaker 1: Mark he is, he is a preparer and he gets
Speaker 1: things done ahead of type and if he had known
Speaker 1: that that was hanging, he would have worked on it
Speaker 1: this week. Gotten it maybe out of the way. That
Speaker 1: is the only tactical issue. But maybe talk with our
Speaker 1: features that are Ali Banpuri about your assignments heading into
Speaker 1: the new season. I mean I have in the past.
Speaker 1: This this wasn't mentioned, So just check that email whatever
Speaker 1: he sent. All right, there you go, Sunday morning. Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening, Thanks for the support. Thank you
Speaker 1: to why this week, Cynthia Freeland, thank you very much. Cynthia,
Speaker 1: You're the best. Until next week, he the call