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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noll. They call
Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer
Speaker 1: Alexis God named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you.
Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they
Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It is the top of
Speaker 1: the week. We are hurdling headlong into February, and we're
Speaker 1: encountering some things that we think need more attention because
Speaker 1: as as you know, a lot of stuff is slipping
Speaker 1: by the mainstream national or international reporting spheres simply because
Speaker 1: it's not because the journalists are trying to hide things
Speaker 1: all the time. It's because there's a ton of stuff happening.
Speaker 1: You know, we are offline. We've been keeping close eyes
Speaker 1: on Kazakhstan and Ukraine. Uh. We we know there's always
Speaker 1: something happening with the world of cryptocurrency and f t s.
Speaker 1: We're going to also talk about some crimes, some explosions
Speaker 1: that haven't made more news yet. In a very weird way.
Speaker 1: But first, maybe we could travel to the produce aisle,
Speaker 1: the just picture wherever you get produced. If you get
Speaker 1: it from a farmer's market, great for you. I don't
Speaker 1: have my life together to that point yet. But you know,
Speaker 1: we eat our veggies here on stuff they don't want
Speaker 1: you to know. And I realized I never asked you
Speaker 1: guys this, But Matt Noel, you remember when that kind
Speaker 1: of trope or meme about people our age being broke
Speaker 1: because they eat too many avocado sandwiches. You remember when
Speaker 1: that hit avocado toast specifically bent, which is I guess
Speaker 1: kind of an open face sandwich. But yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's the wave of the of the hipster millennial future apparently.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why it's expensive. You can if
Speaker 1: you just get an avocado and a piece of bread,
Speaker 1: you can make your own avocado toast. But if you
Speaker 1: buy it a fancy avocado toast TATORI, um, then that's
Speaker 1: that's a pricey item. I have a very fond memories
Speaker 1: when I first began drinking alcohol of going to my
Speaker 1: local store and buying limes all the lines because you
Speaker 1: could use them in everything. And we don't have to
Speaker 1: talk about all the different kinds. But oh, lines were
Speaker 1: the stuff. So wait, you were more excited about purchasing
Speaker 1: lines than you were about purchasing the alcohol itself. Yes,
Speaker 1: because the line really just it didn't matter what the
Speaker 1: alcohol was. That the lime he knew it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then maybe you were buying the lie times after
Speaker 1: you would had a few. So it's easy to get that,
Speaker 1: you know, slight buzz of excitement. You know, picture you
Speaker 1: with the cashier, because here's registered going. Maybe think if
Speaker 1: this guy likes lives, you would be correct, ma'am. Where
Speaker 1: shoplifted lots of lives. It was just you know, just
Speaker 1: to feel alive. You know. They called him, they called
Speaker 1: him the lime bandit legend in AUGUSTA. Well, I like that.
Speaker 1: We're segueing to crime here, because despite the ridiculous low
Speaker 1: level crime, despite the ridiculous absurd nature of of those
Speaker 1: bad faith claims that people our age and younger are
Speaker 1: experiencing wealth inequality because they're eating toast. Uh. I hope
Speaker 1: everybody can tell that is what Joe Biden would call malarkey. Uh.
Speaker 1: Despite those stories making news, there are other stories that
Speaker 1: relate to erectly to produce to avocados, two lives, and
Speaker 1: they're they're important, and they spell trouble in the future.
Speaker 1: Here's what's happening. A lot of these things are produced
Speaker 1: in Latin America, in Mexico, avocados and lives in particular.
Speaker 1: And Mexico is famous for many, many, many things. It's
Speaker 1: the home of ancient Mesoamerican cultures and so on. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: it is also infamous for the role of drug cartels.
Speaker 1: Even if you've never seen narcos, even if you've never
Speaker 1: been on the border or seen drug related gang related crime,
Speaker 1: you know that cartels in areas of Mexico are increasingly
Speaker 1: becoming like state level actors, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: to the point where law enforcement in the country will
Speaker 1: have some serious cost benefit analysis before they go into
Speaker 1: certain regions, and the cartels are in some cases buying
Speaker 1: off the police force. When you think of cartels, you're
Speaker 1: probably thinking, like, you know, cocaine, maybe marijuana trade, even
Speaker 1: though there's not so much money in that as it's
Speaker 1: becoming increasingly decriminalized here in the US, meth especially because
Speaker 1: it's so simple to make. But there's another hustle. The
Speaker 1: cartels have another hustle. There in the avocado game, there
Speaker 1: in the lime game, and this this is so odd.
Speaker 1: So you may have heard about the avocado like cartels
Speaker 1: getting into avocados for an extra income stream, but in
Speaker 1: certain parts of Mexico, drug cartel wars are also affecting
Speaker 1: the price of limes. So the young Matt Fredericks and
Speaker 1: the audience ahead can get your lines now. Don't panic,
Speaker 1: and don't drive inebriated, but do go get your lives
Speaker 1: because these different cartels are taxing low lime producers there.
Speaker 1: They're essentially treating it like a war tax, and they're
Speaker 1: fixing prices. And this is exacerbated by the global supply
Speaker 1: chain problems and of course by climate change. Right current
Speaker 1: society is going to see a lot of arable land
Speaker 1: lost in your lifetime. But if you if you look
Speaker 1: at the price of lines, what you'll see is that
Speaker 1: lime prices have been on the rise for years, and
Speaker 1: they have some predictable spikes during the winter months. Right
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a little more pricey to get
Speaker 1: your lines. I want to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: Emily Green writing over a Vice World News. This is
Speaker 1: some of the best reporting i've seen of this. Uh
Speaker 1: in the US. A drug cartel war is making line
Speaker 1: prices skyrocket in Mexico. So in just December of last year,
Speaker 1: well last month, you know, as we record this, line
Speaker 1: prices had shot up sent over what they were in.
Speaker 1: Right now in Mexico City, lives are selling for the
Speaker 1: highest price they have ever sold, and the price is
Speaker 1: even higher in northern Mexico. And a lot of that
Speaker 1: is because the part of Mexico that grows the most
Speaker 1: winter time lives or supplies those during the winter months
Speaker 1: and to stay on the Pacific coast. And right now
Speaker 1: the Alisco New Generation Cartel or c J I n G,
Speaker 1: and another bunch of local near du Wells called the
Speaker 1: United Cartels are beefing and what organized crime is doing,
Speaker 1: there's not a thing on you Montreal before before you
Speaker 1: send the email, these cartels are doing something similar to
Speaker 1: what the Maple Syrup Consortium does in North America. They're
Speaker 1: limiting the amount of limes that people can harvest to
Speaker 1: manipulate eat the price. And then once they've driven up
Speaker 1: the price, they're doing a calculation and they're going back
Speaker 1: to the farmers and they're saying, hey, because of the
Speaker 1: because we limited production, the price of lines has gone
Speaker 1: up by x and because we did that successfully, just
Speaker 1: so everyone is safe, you should donate percentage why to
Speaker 1: our cause. And they've also like physically cut the number
Speaker 1: of days people can go on the farms and actually work,
Speaker 1: like not three days anymore, it's only two days a week.
Speaker 1: And the scary thing is if anybody bucks against these folks,
Speaker 1: cartels have no like, no hesitance, no compunction about just
Speaker 1: brutally murdering people. You know, they don't have an HR.
Speaker 1: So it's the cartels themselves going through who are who
Speaker 1: are drug cartels? Correct? These are these are drug cartels
Speaker 1: and they are controlling the market for lines. That's insane.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't expect it. It wasn't on the bingo card,
Speaker 1: as we used to say during the pandemic, right uh.
Speaker 1: And in some cases the cartels are also buying up
Speaker 1: the packing plants that's where that's where the limes would be,
Speaker 1: you know, a package that would be branded as whatever,
Speaker 1: and then they would be shipped off around the world.
Speaker 1: And it is a quick way to make money. Because
Speaker 1: it's this local price fixing in a place that has
Speaker 1: serious corruption issues is a lot safer than trying to
Speaker 1: run drugs and guns over the border. So if you
Speaker 1: look at it, this guy's the limit, the lines the
Speaker 1: limit man. Because the higher the price of limes is
Speaker 1: for everybody, the more money. Uh. These cartels will see
Speaker 1: very quickly, and there's a feedback loop being created, I
Speaker 1: would argue, because they're making quick money off lines the avocados,
Speaker 1: and then other cartels are getting in the aime and
Speaker 1: they're funneling that money into their wars with these other cartels,
Speaker 1: which means the other side is also going to start
Speaker 1: looking for even more funding, which means more lime producers
Speaker 1: are going to find themselves, um are going to find
Speaker 1: themselves tragic bystanders in a very violent conflict. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of that old proverb, what was it when elephants
Speaker 1: make war, it's the grass that suffers. These folks are
Speaker 1: are the grass here. It also makes me wonder what
Speaker 1: else is going on with other trades that occur, you
Speaker 1: know in Mexico. You I'm thinking about products like tequila
Speaker 1: and how much control is you know, put on on
Speaker 1: some of those like farmers who are actually like generating
Speaker 1: the plants that become tequila. And it also makes you
Speaker 1: wonder how much you know, if you imagine packing companies
Speaker 1: and shipping out massive amounts of lines and avocados. You
Speaker 1: you imagine, at least from my mind from the TV
Speaker 1: shows and movies that I've watched, where getting drugs across
Speaker 1: a border often occurs within a legitimate shipping business of
Speaker 1: a company shipping products like let's say lines or avocados,
Speaker 1: and then there's weapons somewhere within that shipment as well,
Speaker 1: or drugs. Um I imagine that could be very helpful
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, yeah, And this is uh Michoa, can
Speaker 1: is the is the Pacific state in Mexico that we're
Speaker 1: talking about. They were also the epicenter of the green
Speaker 1: Gold scandal, that's what the media was calling the deal
Speaker 1: with avocados and cartels. That state alone grows on average
Speaker 1: just under a million tons a million tons of avocados
Speaker 1: every year and eight hundred thousand tons of limes. And
Speaker 1: just just as you said, Matt, it's really difficult to
Speaker 1: figure out exactly how much money these groups are making
Speaker 1: off this. It's also difficult to figure out how much
Speaker 1: of that price spike that people see, you know, when
Speaker 1: you get to the grocery store. How much of that
Speaker 1: is a result of organized crime, How much of that
Speaker 1: is just you know, the eternal gamble that is agriculture,
Speaker 1: and how much of that is COVID related inflation and
Speaker 1: other shenanigans. It's it's weird because if you look at
Speaker 1: reports by the actual Mexican government, they do put organized
Speaker 1: crime down as a factor in these price spikes. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're also, by the way, if you don't play ball
Speaker 1: with them, they're destroying roads that line producers need, so
Speaker 1: they're stranding them. Uh, the roads just got reopened. In fact,
Speaker 1: actually the roads just got reopened this month, and no
Speaker 1: one knows how long that situation is going to continue.
Speaker 1: To sum this up, because I think this would be
Speaker 1: interesting for us to do a deep dive in a
Speaker 1: in an episode in the few to sum this up.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, Matt. There are other industries being affected.
Speaker 1: Limes and avocados get a lot of attention because Mexico
Speaker 1: produces so much of those agricultural products. But this is
Speaker 1: rent seeking from industries, and often it doesn't matter exactly
Speaker 1: what that industry is. You could have an electronics manufacturer
Speaker 1: that has to pay protection money. You could have a
Speaker 1: fart jar manufacturer that has to pay protection money. Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: So uh that's that's gonna be another, you know, another
Speaker 1: industry fast on the rise, as their fellow conspiracy realists
Speaker 1: have confirmed. Uh So with that, I want to pause
Speaker 1: and ask people to let us know if you have
Speaker 1: any personal experience with this industry lives, avocados, cartels, then
Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. We want to hear
Speaker 1: from the boots on the ground, So give us a
Speaker 1: call one eight three three st d w y t K,
Speaker 1: or drop us line conspiracy at i heeart radio dot com.
Speaker 1: The very last thing I want to say is that
Speaker 1: I had another great story about Corvid's that are being
Speaker 1: trained to pick up litter. It's amazing. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want to just always talk about crows, because this is
Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, not stuff they
Speaker 1: don't want you to crow. I yield my time. We're
Speaker 1: gonna pause for word from our sponsor, and we'll be
Speaker 1: back with more strange news. And we're back and then
Speaker 1: you can talk about Corvid's all you want, and should
Speaker 1: We don't even have to change the name of the
Speaker 1: show because I sort of made a habit of late
Speaker 1: on this Uh, segment of talking about the stupidest thing
Speaker 1: on the Internet and n f T s, I hope
Speaker 1: you aren't getting too tired of it. Um. I think
Speaker 1: I've plugged one of my favorite YouTube channels internet today
Speaker 1: quite a bit. UM. I quite often get turned onto
Speaker 1: interesting stories from those guys. And they even did a
Speaker 1: disclaimer when they did their most recent episode, uh that
Speaker 1: they were not becoming the n f T Show. There's
Speaker 1: just so many stupid and hilarious developments in the world
Speaker 1: of Don Fungible Token. So I uh off my hat
Speaker 1: to those guys, uh and also apologize. Maybe, but I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna think it's gonna be worth it. I
Speaker 1: think you guys are gonna be on board because a
Speaker 1: little better combination is there than combining a stupid Internet
Speaker 1: grift with a bunch of trying to stay hip to
Speaker 1: the time um celebrities kind of on their way out
Speaker 1: of of being relevant um. And the two of those
Speaker 1: celebrities in question today are none other than Ozzy Osbourne,
Speaker 1: the Prince of Darkness himself. One could argue the man
Speaker 1: doesn't need to stay relevant. He's he's done what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do. He bent the head off those that bat
Speaker 1: and bathe and doves blood on stage whatever. And he
Speaker 1: made some fine records as well. Let's just you know,
Speaker 1: give him credit where credit is due. Huh are you
Speaker 1: are we about to talk about crypto bats? Yeah? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, crypto bats. Okay, you know, maybe I let's
Speaker 1: save it the other the other celebrity, because this is
Speaker 1: sort of an example of two um of these celebrities
Speaker 1: kind of scrapping for Internet relevance. Uh, handling something completely different,
Speaker 1: handling this this some debacle. Uh, let's just call it
Speaker 1: what it is, completely differently, So they n f T
Speaker 1: bats because we know n f t s are collections
Speaker 1: limited collections of basically JPEG's most of the time, or
Speaker 1: it can be animated gifts, they can be little videos
Speaker 1: that can be really whatever you want. You can mint
Speaker 1: anything that is a digital asset as an n f T,
Speaker 1: and the minting process essentially creates a record on the
Speaker 1: blockchain that says this is my thingy and nobody else
Speaker 1: has this exact thing. But then you know, there's become
Speaker 1: this culture of people like right click saving the other
Speaker 1: people's n f t s and presenting them as their own.
Speaker 1: The people that actually bought the n f t s
Speaker 1: don't really like that, but there's not much they can
Speaker 1: do about it, so it's almost like a troll, you know,
Speaker 1: of these people that are like, ha ha, see I
Speaker 1: have it too. I just screenshot a like, no, you
Speaker 1: don't really have it. That's my crypto. Bat looks like
Speaker 1: skeleton lazy lion or was a board ape? Do you
Speaker 1: see that? Jimmy Fallon apparently bought a board ape for
Speaker 1: two and fifty thousand dollars and then showed it off
Speaker 1: on That's a Night Show. But she was kind of
Speaker 1: stuck on. Pete Davidson and Colin Josh and uh and
Speaker 1: their buddy buying the Staten Island ferry. Who is that
Speaker 1: guy we talked about like an n FT of the
Speaker 1: Staten Island fairy, you know, thebought the actual faery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can get behind that. Honestly, they probably they probably
Speaker 1: who knows, I don't know how much. You know how
Speaker 1: much they paid. H Yeah, it's around two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars, which seems, you know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of money, but when you're getting a ginormous fairy, that
Speaker 1: feels kind of reasonable, and it's already got a business
Speaker 1: purpose associated with it. It's the thing is gonna make money.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's just fairy people, right, presumably back and forth
Speaker 1: from a venue. Okay, so it's the instantly we've listed
Speaker 1: three use cases for for this purchase that makes it
Speaker 1: somewhat meaningful to somebody eventually somewhere. No, we have, and
Speaker 1: you're trying to get back a track, Noel, but I'm
Speaker 1: watching Ozark because the fourth season four point one or
Speaker 1: whatever just came out. That was the whole point of
Speaker 1: money laundering for them, was buying a boat upon say,
Speaker 1: it was the whole point. That was another another way
Speaker 1: to launder money. It wasn't like they were like gunning
Speaker 1: for the whole like you know game, you know, river focused.
Speaker 1: You know, they just became another grift along the way,
Speaker 1: which is what this whole n f T thing cartel
Speaker 1: should be in n f T s right, I had
Speaker 1: completely you know what it is all kind of a cartel.
Speaker 1: And now as he's in on it. So these crypto bats,
Speaker 1: these little guys um that are you know, there's I
Speaker 1: think nine very cleverly nine thousand, six hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six devil horns I'm making over here of these little guys.
Speaker 1: Some of them are like headless. They're all different, they're
Speaker 1: kind of they're cute, honestly, of all of a lot
Speaker 1: of the f T s I've seen, these are kind
Speaker 1: of cool because they have kind of an eight bit
Speaker 1: look to them, which I did, you know, I think
Speaker 1: we all can get behind that, like kind of a
Speaker 1: Nintendo you know, um side scroller, kind of Castlevania type vibe.
Speaker 1: I see one here that looks like a magua. There's
Speaker 1: one that's like skeletor, like I said, there's one that's
Speaker 1: wearing a little suit. They're all the same exact shape,
Speaker 1: and they all have different color schemes and color you know,
Speaker 1: and looks and all that stuff. I think right now
Speaker 1: they're going for around fifty or sixty bucks apiece. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the whole point is this Ozzie announced it, you know,
Speaker 1: on his Twitter and on his social media, and I
Speaker 1: think with Sharon, you know, along by his side, and um,
Speaker 1: a lot of these n f T launches, these drops,
Speaker 1: they are tracked and kind of the communities that that
Speaker 1: that you know, kind of jump up around them, uh
Speaker 1: use discord to kind of talk about it. So there's
Speaker 1: all these discord channels not really quite understand what's so
Speaker 1: special about Discord, but I I've used it, and I
Speaker 1: get white people kind of like it's clean like interface
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I don't quite get what's so special
Speaker 1: about it. But I think maybe it's just become the
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, NERD communication platform of choice UM,
Speaker 1: and that's what people are using for this. So what
Speaker 1: happens with Discord is you know, you have like a
Speaker 1: unique U r L that you can you know, promote
Speaker 1: to uh your followers or whatever, and you can have
Speaker 1: like a Discord server. We could have we should have
Speaker 1: a Discord server for like people listening to the show
Speaker 1: and do like live streams and things like that. So
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of us of people obvious sason to
Speaker 1: play video games together as well. But they're also used
Speaker 1: to track these these crypto and ft drops. And what
Speaker 1: happened was apparently I don't know exactly why, but the
Speaker 1: pre sale, which is called a white list, the pre
Speaker 1: sale for the crypto bats and f T s um
Speaker 1: open on December and all this information was via Discord. UH.
Speaker 1: People who were there to sign up get guaranteed a
Speaker 1: crypto bat um. They get them forty eight hours before
Speaker 1: the public minting process, which goes live in February, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Yea, We're still talking about the presale
Speaker 1: um via that crypto bats website, so this is kind
Speaker 1: of like a getting on the action before everybody else. Um.
Speaker 1: So apparently for some reason they like changed the u
Speaker 1: r L um after launching the discord they at some
Speaker 1: points they changed the u r L slightly and really quickly.
Speaker 1: Some Internet scammers got wise to this and posted the
Speaker 1: incorrect or actually what happened. So think about this. If
Speaker 1: someone changes their Twitter handle or like an Instagram handle,
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it takes, but somebody else
Speaker 1: can use it that that becomes available again. So I
Speaker 1: believe what happened was they co opted the u r
Speaker 1: L for the discord server that was changed, and then
Speaker 1: posted all kinds of fake information there literally like a
Speaker 1: dummy site to all these crypto things that use Web
Speaker 1: three point oh, which allows you through the browser extensions
Speaker 1: to connect your crypto wallet directly to whatever your sing with,
Speaker 1: like whatever, you know, there's a little button on all
Speaker 1: these sites to say connect wallet, and this site did
Speaker 1: something like that, but it was like a dummy Uh,
Speaker 1: site or like a fishing kind of thing. I think
Speaker 1: about like an Internet equivalent of one of those devices
Speaker 1: you can put in like a a t M or
Speaker 1: a gas pump too, like captures people's credit card information. Essentially,
Speaker 1: this is like a little more elaborate version than that.
Speaker 1: And essentially they had it where it was like it
Speaker 1: seemed legit. It's like, hey, before you enter into this
Speaker 1: amazing once in a lifetime opportunity, we verify the crypto
Speaker 1: that's in your wallet, So go ahead and hook it
Speaker 1: up for us real quick, and we'll just take a
Speaker 1: look and make sure that you've got the funds that
Speaker 1: you say you do. Um. You know. The thing it's
Speaker 1: weird about this is anybody that's experience of this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff would know that that's really not right. But
Speaker 1: the guy's Internet today made this point as well, and
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Uh. The problem is that all of
Speaker 1: these celebrities getting into this NFC space are bringing in
Speaker 1: new people that are not seasoned crypto people, you know,
Speaker 1: and there are people that are like figuring this stuff out,
Speaker 1: and it's not uncomplicated, like if you're someone who's this
Speaker 1: is new to you. There are many many points along
Speaker 1: the way where you could either mess up and like
Speaker 1: accidentally lose some funds or get scammed because you're not
Speaker 1: really quite used to what you're looking for these red flags.
Speaker 1: So they didn't ultimately steal that much money. I think
Speaker 1: it was in the neighborhood of like thirty thousand dollars total.
Speaker 1: But the problem was that Ozzy and like people associated
Speaker 1: with his camp, they retweeted the bad link several times
Speaker 1: and it wasn't until I think, like the Verge or
Speaker 1: something reached out to them that they realized what they
Speaker 1: had done and changed it. And they actually didn't even
Speaker 1: take responsibility for it. The site that the Crypto bats, um,
Speaker 1: you know partners, I guess you know, this is obviously
Speaker 1: Auzzy partnering with the company. It's not like he said
Speaker 1: at home, you know, uh, punching in all of this
Speaker 1: stuff on his own computer. Um. So the statement to
Speaker 1: The Verge from the company's Sutter Systems developed the Crypto Bats.
Speaker 1: They said, although we feel very sorry for the people
Speaker 1: that have fallen prey to these scams, we cannot take
Speaker 1: responsibility for the actions of scammers exploding discord a platform
Speaker 1: that we have absolutely no control over. Uh. The co
Speaker 1: founder of Setter Systems. His name is j Peggy J
Speaker 1: j peg j E p e g g I. Um.
Speaker 1: Surely that's his Christian name. Um. In our opinion, the
Speaker 1: situation and hundreds of others that have taken place across
Speaker 1: other projects in the n f T space could have
Speaker 1: easily been prevented if Discord has just had a better
Speaker 1: response support fraud team in place to help big projects
Speaker 1: like ours. Uh So that's that's coming to just go
Speaker 1: back to my whole point. It's like, why Discord, And
Speaker 1: if you know enough about these weaknesses to make this
Speaker 1: statement so quickly, why not do something about it on
Speaker 1: the front end to protect your you know, users and
Speaker 1: customer base or whatever. So I don't know, um, pretty silly.
Speaker 1: So in the end, it was the Discord link that
Speaker 1: caused the problems, right yeah. But also like they switched
Speaker 1: the links mid stream for whatever reason. It initially used
Speaker 1: the oral discord dot gg dot crypto bats with a
Speaker 1: z n f t um and then it was changed
Speaker 1: to Discord dot g g slash crypto bats with no
Speaker 1: n f T at the end. So it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're full for changing in mid stream.
Speaker 1: The developers and like if you were looking at both
Speaker 1: of those like, I wouldn't have really clocked that they
Speaker 1: were that different. So it it's the fact that they
Speaker 1: had those bad links just like circulating for like a while.
Speaker 1: I would I think it's kind of sale ridiculous that
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take responsibility for it. I think I remember
Speaker 1: hearing that even Ozzy Osbourne had on his Twitter feed
Speaker 1: or some other social feed the bad your right for
Speaker 1: quite a while. That's right. Um, So that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, not a great look. Um, I will say,
Speaker 1: do you think these little cryptobauts their like you know,
Speaker 1: the stupid lazy lions and um, you know board apes
Speaker 1: of the world. Um, I've got one other one that
Speaker 1: to me is kind of a quick, you know, positive
Speaker 1: story about this. Do you guys know who Richard carn is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know him. Remember I don't think he's the Home
Speaker 1: Improvement he's the sidekick or the actor who plays the
Speaker 1: sidekick on Home Improvement. I believe you mentioned him on
Speaker 1: a on a recent Strange News or Listener male segment.
Speaker 1: I remember his name, Yeah, yeah, Richard karn uh he yes,
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Speaker 1: Let's let's take a beat to consider our place in
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Speaker 1: of strange news. All right, we're back and we are
Speaker 1: heading to Sacramento, California for our next story. This comes
Speaker 1: to us via the local ABC, Fox, and NBC affiliates there,
Speaker 1: as well as the Facebook page of the Sacramento Police Department.
Speaker 1: It's a story that's been developing for over a week
Speaker 1: now at this point. Uh first heard about it. I
Speaker 1: want to say last week around the twenty three of January,
Speaker 1: that is when there was a strange story that came out,
Speaker 1: just very very localized, came out of Sacramento that stated
Speaker 1: possible vehicle explosion in in an unoccupied vehicle that was
Speaker 1: parked in the neighborhood in Sacramento, California, and it was
Speaker 1: just strange. It was weird as a little blip on
Speaker 1: the radar right where we look for these strange news
Speaker 1: segments every week and we see all kinds of weird
Speaker 1: little stuff and it just pops on our radar, and
Speaker 1: that's what this was. In this case, it was very strange.
Speaker 1: Let me just read to you from the Sacramento Police
Speaker 1: Department's Facebook page what they said about it. Quote on Sunday,
Speaker 1: January three and approximately pm, Sacramento Police Department patrol officers
Speaker 1: responded uh in this area regarding a possible explosion. The
Speaker 1: officers located an unoccupied vehicle with significant damage consistent with
Speaker 1: an explosion occurring inside the vehicle. What that's weird? An
Speaker 1: unoccupied vehicle that exploded from the inside. Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: bit puzzling just at the start, right, unless there was
Speaker 1: like a window open or something that an explosive could
Speaker 1: be dropped in you went on an occupied vehicle, or
Speaker 1: unless the person who you know owned the vehicle set
Speaker 1: off an explosive inside of it. Or there could also
Speaker 1: be a scenario where it was, you know, someone opened
Speaker 1: the door through force or something and then placed an explosive.
Speaker 1: Just very strange. But police department looked into that and
Speaker 1: nothing really happened until on January another unoccupied vehicle exploded
Speaker 1: and they were called out. And they say it on
Speaker 1: their their Facebook post here as well. Just very strange.
Speaker 1: They conducted an extensive investigation and they were able to
Speaker 1: determine there were no injuries, and they believe it was
Speaker 1: a homemade explosive device that was used to detonate both
Speaker 1: of those vehicles in Sacramento. So guys, when you when
Speaker 1: you're just in your neighborhood or hanging out in your
Speaker 1: wherever you live, and you hear a little pop or
Speaker 1: a fairly large explosion, would ever think that it could
Speaker 1: be a vehicle exploding? Um? Yeah, only because I've seen
Speaker 1: it happen you have, like from malfunction overheating or something
Speaker 1: like that. Or yeah, yeah, from poor vehicle maintenance. Uh
Speaker 1: nothing like no like grand theft, auto RPG launch or anything. Um.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, so not not due to criminal activities,
Speaker 1: but definitely I just kind of assume everybody's seen an
Speaker 1: explosion like that, like even the remnants when you're in
Speaker 1: traffic or something. No, wow, maybe I need to move
Speaker 1: to you. No, no, No, there's there's gang activity all
Speaker 1: over on that side, and then an airport on that side. Uh,
Speaker 1: It's it's terrible. There's there's loud pops all the time,
Speaker 1: and and airplanes, um, I don't know, don't appear. Okay,
Speaker 1: we should also point out the this has got to
Speaker 1: be common in other cities. But there's the famous unofficial
Speaker 1: ongoing game in Atlanta called fireworks or gunshots. Right, that's
Speaker 1: just a related thing when you're asking. But but for
Speaker 1: many people, the thing is, you don't have to be
Speaker 1: a ballistics expert or a fireworks expert to understand the
Speaker 1: difference between the sound of gunshot and the sound of
Speaker 1: an explosion. Explosions sound very different, right, So what what
Speaker 1: was the do we know like the magnitude of these explosions.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've got officially the magnitude there
Speaker 1: were enough to explode the vehicle where when the police
Speaker 1: officers arrived on the scene, they could tell that both
Speaker 1: vehicles had had an interior explosion where their pieces of
Speaker 1: the vehicle, you know, all over on the ground, and
Speaker 1: there were witnesses who heard or experienced the explosion. Quote,
Speaker 1: both cars were severely damaged. And the crazy thing at
Speaker 1: the time, in that particular neighborhood and Sacramento where this occurred,
Speaker 1: both explosions were less than point four miles away, so
Speaker 1: this was a localized thing. So if you're living in
Speaker 1: that neighborhood, you're thinking Oh lord, either our vehicles are
Speaker 1: just deciding to self explode or somebody is doing this.
Speaker 1: And it turns out only a few days later, somebody
Speaker 1: was doing this at least according to the Sacramento Police
Speaker 1: Department and their findings. And this is the Oak Park
Speaker 1: area of Sacramento. They recently, as of today that we're
Speaker 1: recording this, on January one, they arrested a twenty three
Speaker 1: year old man on felony charges linked to both of
Speaker 1: these explosions. Uh. This this man, I'm gonna name him.
Speaker 1: He was named in ABC News department, yes, yeah, as
Speaker 1: well as the Fox website and other places that I
Speaker 1: looked at. They're naming him as Cody Wiggs. And he
Speaker 1: was being held at least as as of this recording,
Speaker 1: is being held without bail in Sacramento County Jail. And
Speaker 1: it's just very strange. I don't know, this guy was
Speaker 1: just setting off pipe bombs. They were pipe bombs that
Speaker 1: he generated, that he created. It was setting them off
Speaker 1: in unoccupied vehicles. And it doesn't appear that there's any
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason, at least not based on the what
Speaker 1: the writing that I've seen on the investigation, unless there's
Speaker 1: you know, something that they haven't mentioned yet in the
Speaker 1: news as of this moment. Yeah, so this sounds like
Speaker 1: it could be an episode of Law and Order. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I feel like I've seen an
Speaker 1: episode of Law and Order about people bombing these vehicles.
Speaker 1: But it's so much trouble to go through to make
Speaker 1: a pipe bomb, to stay off the radar, to not
Speaker 1: get caught planting them, to get away with two. Uh.
Speaker 1: It seems like the police know that the guy was
Speaker 1: planning to do more. Right, it was still building pipe
Speaker 1: bombs actively, but because it's so much trouble, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's an impulsive thing, right, There is usually some sort
Speaker 1: of rhyme or reason, unless the person is one of
Speaker 1: those arsonists who is just like fundamentally psychologically bound to
Speaker 1: create explosions on some primal cognitive level. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: know much about this Coney Wiggs person. We do know
Speaker 1: that he was carrying a concealed dirk or dagger and
Speaker 1: faces misdemeanor charges. There's a dirk in a dagger matters
Speaker 1: as a fantasy fiction Dragon Dungeon enthusiasts. Can you explain
Speaker 1: this to us? Well, now, this is this is tough
Speaker 1: for me. I'm not going to give you the you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can look up. Dirk, in my mind
Speaker 1: is very much a stabby thing is to be stabbed.
Speaker 1: It's a dagger, I would It's a kind of dagger, right,
Speaker 1: like a maze is a kind of puzzle. A dirk
Speaker 1: is a dirt, sounds like for some reason. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people think of like a spear or
Speaker 1: something like that. But a dirk is like originally from Scotland,
Speaker 1: so it's a kind of dagger from there. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: appears to be a dr Internet tells me that it
Speaker 1: appears to uh involve a sheath most of the time
Speaker 1: and has a guard on it, you know, so it
Speaker 1: is almost like a miniature sword, whereas a dagger can
Speaker 1: be more utilitarian probably, although I always think of dagger
Speaker 1: as stabby as well, but it can also be slicy. Again, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like think of the dag. A dagger is a term,
Speaker 1: just like puzzle is a term, and amazed is a
Speaker 1: sort of puzzle, just the same way that a dirk
Speaker 1: is a type of deck. That's so great, See, it's
Speaker 1: so funny. In my mind, it goes back to ultimon
Speaker 1: online and an ultimonline. There are two different I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say this because that's what my mind is doing,
Speaker 1: and I apologize to everyone listening. But there are two
Speaker 1: different skills that you can learn. One is piercing, where
Speaker 1: it's like stabby things, and the other is slashing, which
Speaker 1: is like swordy things. And that's what I imagine Dirk
Speaker 1: is more stabby dagger. You know. I've found something interesting
Speaker 1: about Cody Wiggs. It looks like he was arrested in
Speaker 1: as well when he was he was just eighteen, along
Speaker 1: with a guy named a Zeus Enrique. They found a
Speaker 1: loaded firearm and drugs meth in Wiggs is possession, and
Speaker 1: then his pal and Riquez also had some sort of narcotics.
Speaker 1: So this guy is familiar with the law enforcement system,
Speaker 1: or I should say they're familiar with him. This is
Speaker 1: not his first first time out, you know. Yeah, And now, Matt, honestly,
Speaker 1: I have to have to maybe reassess my initial take
Speaker 1: when I said this is a lot of planning. People
Speaker 1: usually have motivations and play, whether they're you know, like
Speaker 1: ideological or financial, what have you. But when meth enters
Speaker 1: this scenario, we don't know those we don't know what
Speaker 1: those motivations could be, because meth does such crazy things
Speaker 1: to the mind. Yeah, it just depends on if their
Speaker 1: users or if they're trying to traffic it in some
Speaker 1: way or both. Um. Anyway, this is just a weird story,
Speaker 1: and I feel terrible for anybody living in that neighborhood
Speaker 1: that had to go through to seemingly random vehicle explosions.
Speaker 1: That's not a fun thing to go through. I hope
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen again. If you hear anything more about
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