Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio, Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is they call me Ben.
Speaker 1: We were joined as always with our super producer Paul
Speaker 1: Mission controlled decade in spirit. Most importantly, you are you.
Speaker 1: You are here. That makes this the stuff they don't
Speaker 1: want you to know. Hold the phone. This is a
Speaker 1: very special episode for us. You guys, I am looking
Speaker 1: not at a computer screen of not looking at like
Speaker 1: a screaming pet somewhere in someone's zoom background. You're looking
Speaker 1: at our dead eyed stairs. Yeah, I'm looking at your
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunce dead. I staring and I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I would cast you an interview with a
Speaker 1: vampire Blues like. We're in person, you guys, We're in person,
Speaker 1: and we're going, uh in a totally different direction. We've
Speaker 1: been uh, we've had our heads down in the trenches,
Speaker 1: as they would say, working on a ton of other stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, we have that book coming out, all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to get back with our roots. We
Speaker 1: wanted to relax and just have an in person conversation.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds old to say that, it sounds
Speaker 1: pre pandemic, but just like sit down with each other
Speaker 1: as buddies. We just returned from Austin and we got
Speaker 1: to do this in person a little bit at weird
Speaker 1: places like the Museum of the Weird. Yeah, literally weird
Speaker 1: place and just hang and uh. We decided we're not
Speaker 1: going to do it alone though. This time we got
Speaker 1: somebody here with us. That's right. We received an email
Speaker 1: from a dear, dear friend of ours who said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, after the damaging time they had appearing on
Speaker 1: our show a few years ago, they've recovered fully and
Speaker 1: are returning again with us today. Fellow conspiracy realist, you
Speaker 1: know him, you love him, the man, the myth, the legend.
Speaker 1: Mr Lucky Yates, what's up, babies? Serious point? You just
Speaker 1: did that. We're going to get my reputation back, do
Speaker 1: you guys destroyed it last time? Dodo theory, So the
Speaker 1: Dodos are still alive out there. I like the Dodo cryptid.
Speaker 1: I still think about that. What about the Puffin? You know,
Speaker 1: the Puffin is sort of like the modern Dodo. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. The pigeon is the modern friend. The
Speaker 1: pigeon is the heart. Take another hot take your Dodo lore. Right,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about that? Cereal puffins? So
Speaker 1: you had it, it's pretty good, So puffin cereal, puffin cereal?
Speaker 1: But healthy Captain crunch? Thank you? You know what. It
Speaker 1: doesn't cut up the roof of your mouth with the
Speaker 1: same level of you know what satisfaction than Captain crunch.
Speaker 1: Yeahs are weak? How else does it delivers? Are strong? Wait?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let's talk about this. Was there a conspiracy
Speaker 1: to cut all of our mouths up with various serials
Speaker 1: when we were like, you know, a little bit younger
Speaker 1: in the eighties nineties. I always heard the conspiracy that
Speaker 1: MSG creates magical flavor by making tiny cuts in your mouth.
Speaker 1: Not true, Yeah, it's not true, but I definitely have
Speaker 1: heard that repeated, Like people repeat things like that with
Speaker 1: utter confidence and by thousand cuts. Okay, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what you're coming up with movie titles at this point.
Speaker 1: This is we and I love them. We've got to
Speaker 1: see this. This conversation is going to go in a
Speaker 1: lot of directions. Uh, Like, since we last spoke Lucky
Speaker 1: so much ship happened? Oh my god, UFOs are real.
Speaker 1: One cares. Yeah, things got bad enough in the world
Speaker 1: that world governments finally said, you know what, fine, get
Speaker 1: high you know. Yeah, yeah, there're a whole pandemic that
Speaker 1: a lot of people just didn't believe in. This isn't happening.
Speaker 1: It's not really happening. What did you do? Where have
Speaker 1: your adventures lead you? How did you survive the pandemic?
Speaker 1: Since we spoke, when did we When did we last
Speaker 1: get together? On my god, I don't know how. There's
Speaker 1: this T shirt that I'm wearing. It's older than three
Speaker 1: years old. I would like to point out, gentlemen, that
Speaker 1: this T shirt is been in constant rotation. It's never
Speaker 1: been taken out. It's I mean, it's been worn consistently proudly.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so Lucky Lucky has our. It's the first
Speaker 1: shirt that we ever produced. It's like the worst font,
Speaker 1: but it looks it's a very close driven design. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing but type. We had some white and red letters,
Speaker 1: and the red letters from more than three feet away.
Speaker 1: You do not know what they say? Okay, So what
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm hearing is we owe you another not
Speaker 1: at all, okay, sir, I mean I will take one.
Speaker 1: If you've been coming, they're coming baby. So uh so
Speaker 1: we what have I How did I survive the pandemic? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god? Where to we begin? Well? I started streaming
Speaker 1: as soon as as soon as everything shut down, I
Speaker 1: clicked on Instagram Live and every night for nine months
Speaker 1: I streamed something weird I started. I started a religion
Speaker 1: based on the Dodos that we talked about on my
Speaker 1: last episodes. Right, I created a whole mythology about the Dodos. Well,
Speaker 1: you can't call it a myth if it's a religion.
Speaker 1: We very much uh own up to the fact that
Speaker 1: it is a myth. I like the transparency of your cult.
Speaker 1: I also don't ask for money from anybody, so it's
Speaker 1: like a real deal. But if they happen to shower
Speaker 1: you with it, you know so, I mean, but it
Speaker 1: would never be asked for. I would not. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where they would put it because
Speaker 1: I'm not setting up any kind of venom on the plate. Man,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Okay, So, gladys, the Holy Dodo was
Speaker 1: the Savior is our is our savior figure? Do you
Speaker 1: want the mythology right now. I haven't had to do
Speaker 1: this speech since let's see October of nine. Okay, let's see,
Speaker 1: as you may or may not know, fellas, Dodos were
Speaker 1: a divine species here on the earth. Uh. The other
Speaker 1: divine species, of course were the unicorns, uh, and the
Speaker 1: wizards and the elves that you know what. The narwhals
Speaker 1: are always asked for. But there the jury is still
Speaker 1: out on them. We don't know enough about them yet.
Speaker 1: The t rex Is, of course, were though the t
Speaker 1: rexes were a divine species. Okay. So the Dodos were
Speaker 1: living in their little hidden island paradise of Mauritius, just
Speaker 1: love and life. They lived there with the unicorns before
Speaker 1: they left, and everybody was just a beautiful, beautiful place.
Speaker 1: And they would sit in their bubbling pools of sparkling
Speaker 1: water all night long, smoking bowls of the elven pipe
Speaker 1: weed and de gussing life in all of its majesty.
Speaker 1: And then one day a ship rolled up onto shore,
Speaker 1: and the Dodos were like, what the fund is that thing?
Speaker 1: And then all these men started climbing off of the ship,
Speaker 1: and they were like, what are those things? And then
Speaker 1: the men started just murdering everything on the island, and
Speaker 1: so the Dodos were like, well, fuck this, those guys
Speaker 1: are a bunch of assholes. We're going back to the
Speaker 1: Undying Lands with the wizards and the elves and the
Speaker 1: t rex is and the unicorns, and uh, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna piece out from this place because we don't like there,
Speaker 1: and if they found us here on our little hidden,
Speaker 1: sacred island, then they're all over this Globe's were out
Speaker 1: except for Gladys. Gladys said, you know what, fellow Dodo kind,
Speaker 1: I have faith that mankind can get it shipped together
Speaker 1: and stop being a bunch of assholes. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stick around see if I can guide them in the
Speaker 1: right to action. So they said good luck, they pushed
Speaker 1: off on their long boats. Off they went to the
Speaker 1: Undying Lands. Gladys stayed behind for one and twenty years
Speaker 1: trying to work with the men, and she saw no
Speaker 1: signs that they would ever get their ship together and
Speaker 1: stop being a bunch of assholes. So she pieced out,
Speaker 1: and as she was pushing off shore on her magical
Speaker 1: long boat, she turned back to man and she said, Okay, mankind,
Speaker 1: if you ever can get your ship together and stop
Speaker 1: being a bunch of assholes. I'll come back. Not only
Speaker 1: will I come back, I'll bring all the Dodos back
Speaker 1: with me. And you don't even know the cool ship
Speaker 1: we can do. You just started murdering and eating us.
Speaker 1: Not only will I bring the Dodos back, I'll bring
Speaker 1: the unicorns. What about the t rex is though? Not
Speaker 1: only will I bring the nicorns mother rexes. So praise
Speaker 1: gladys mankind. Stop being a bunch of assholes so we
Speaker 1: can get the Dodos and the unicorns and the motherfucking
Speaker 1: t Rex. Dodos and unicorncing relatively docile, but like a
Speaker 1: bunch of t rex is rolling. I mean, that seems
Speaker 1: danger it seems like a recipe for disaster. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to questions. I think history, if history has proved anything,
Speaker 1: you give man six months and we'll be riding those
Speaker 1: t rex all over town like that Joe Dino writer.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be just like Chris Pratt Jurassic World movies.
Speaker 1: You know what's fascinating about this? First off, that's a
Speaker 1: wild ride, and thank you. But what's fascinating is you
Speaker 1: have great timing here to tell us the story. The
Speaker 1: synchronicity is fascinating to us because just this week we
Speaker 1: looked into something called de extinction. It's a real thing
Speaker 1: that's happening. Like the idea like, hey, let's just fun
Speaker 1: around and bring back man. Yeah, let's see what that happens.
Speaker 1: What's what happens or the thighla scene or whatever. And
Speaker 1: Dodos are actually really good candidate for this because they
Speaker 1: went extinct so recently. Yeah, and there's you know, the
Speaker 1: pigeons are like distant relatives of them, and so there's
Speaker 1: I think enough swimming around in there that you can
Speaker 1: really start kick starting at all. What did the term
Speaker 1: dodo become like a term of abuse. You know, you
Speaker 1: call somebody a dodo that means they're a dumb dumb
Speaker 1: because men thought they were stupid birds because they had
Speaker 1: no natural enemies, and they were just naturally trusting and
Speaker 1: they were kind of goofy. They were like a groundbird
Speaker 1: and big and they walked kind of goofy, uh, and
Speaker 1: they were just completely trusted men. They were to walk
Speaker 1: right up to them and then they would kill them
Speaker 1: and eat them. And people knew how bad people were
Speaker 1: like they were they were very well, you could say
Speaker 1: about humans in generals, they tend to be self aware
Speaker 1: as groups like nobody. Nobody is saying, I think that
Speaker 1: we're doing totally good things. So what what what makes
Speaker 1: what makes penguins a more successful species? In the dodo?
Speaker 1: They still similarly swimming fen they can dart around underwater.
Speaker 1: True Dodos couldn't do that ship No dondos. No, they
Speaker 1: had little, tiny wings. They were on the ground, big eggs, targets,
Speaker 1: big eggs for Yeah, the dogs and the pigs that
Speaker 1: mankind brought to the island, it just took care of that.
Speaker 1: Those ground nests flag eggs real quick. They went fast,
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah. The ones who died, now most of
Speaker 1: them got on the long boats and piece the hell out.
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna I was just wondering, like,
Speaker 1: I wonder what Gladys thinks about right now, as we're
Speaker 1: entering back into I don't know, perhaps of World War
Speaker 1: how she feel about mankind? Right? I think she realizes
Speaker 1: that one in twenty years slash two hundred and twenty years,
Speaker 1: it really makes no difference. Mankind cannot get it shipped
Speaker 1: together with just a bunch of murder apes. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it. We love killing so it
Speaker 1: feels like you've really, uh, you've really dug deep into
Speaker 1: this philosophy over the Over the pandemic, I had weekly
Speaker 1: every Sunday night, I did a service. There were regular
Speaker 1: worshippers that would show up every week. And at one
Speaker 1: point I thought, oh my God, is this legit? Like
Speaker 1: could I go tax free? I think I have it
Speaker 1: because I am a Universal Life Church minister. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not faking it. So I'm I I had a
Speaker 1: real ministry going on. Uh, And I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: there's still people that throw praise gladdys around as their
Speaker 1: bless you type thing. What's the barrier to entry though?
Speaker 1: For getting incorporated in that way and then being tax free?
Speaker 1: I know Scientology kind of had to fight for it
Speaker 1: a bit, you know, but what what's the true barrier
Speaker 1: to entry to prove that you are worthy? Universal Life
Speaker 1: Church has it all worked out, and I think you
Speaker 1: just have to have an ongoing service where there is
Speaker 1: a regular audience coming. I don't that because of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and that's what we I sort of stumbled on while
Speaker 1: I was doing it. I was like, wait, this is
Speaker 1: kind of where everything is headed anyway, and so many
Speaker 1: churches are have been on TV all along. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: am I creating a thing? Wait a minute? And then
Speaker 1: I but when I stopped, I stopped. My dog, My
Speaker 1: sixteen year old dog really started falling apart. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get old, Abe Jackson, and uh so I and I
Speaker 1: hit a wall man because I was doing something every
Speaker 1: night online and uh so I hit a while Abe
Speaker 1: went down. Then you died right before Christmas. And then
Speaker 1: I just like didn't go back to the thing. Uh
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I don't know. I don't I could
Speaker 1: kick start that thing anytime. I still know the myth clearly,
Speaker 1: YA can. Just that's pretty much as I said. I
Speaker 1: think it would be fascinating for us on this show
Speaker 1: to have to have a fly in the wall perspective
Speaker 1: of someone who has actually managed to like go tax
Speaker 1: free with a philosophy or religion that they discovered. The
Speaker 1: other cool thing is where I live. I am an
Speaker 1: old I live in an old warehouse that was converted
Speaker 1: to loss back in and when they set up all
Speaker 1: the by laws, there was nothing in the neighborhood in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Didn't realize it was going to be the Atlanta of
Speaker 1: right now, and I can run a business out of it.
Speaker 1: I can live in my place. I can run a
Speaker 1: business out of my place. I can live in it
Speaker 1: and run a business out of my place. I am
Speaker 1: allowed to do all that. So I could technically turn
Speaker 1: my place into a sanctuary or whatever. That's awesome, I
Speaker 1: should do it. Is it accessible to the belt Line
Speaker 1: though we're on the belt right above me and and
Speaker 1: Rafi you can go get your slice of pizza pot
Speaker 1: and while you can get a slice up at Glide,
Speaker 1: which is on premises. Okay, so it's a So we're
Speaker 1: looking at a sanctuary that is walkable that also has food, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: And I think would it would this be the first
Speaker 1: church on the belt Line. I don't know. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you might have a thing because if that's something, lean
Speaker 1: into that, you know, I'm totally I'm just gonna set
Speaker 1: up a little booth life advice. Well you like a
Speaker 1: banana stand kind of situation, and like, uh, speaking of
Speaker 1: confessions and questions, this is something we we thought would
Speaker 1: this interesting. Uh went on Twitter earlier just last night
Speaker 1: and then asked if there were any weird questions people
Speaker 1: wanted to ask. Lucky, So we've got a couple. Um first,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with with this. Uh this, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the hard hitting journalism. I can't wait
Speaker 1: strap the fucking so so. Stock X says, I want
Speaker 1: to ask him more about Archer, but quote, I remember
Speaker 1: he wasn't so thrilled about the show, which is not
Speaker 1: the sense I got. Yeah, that kind of blew me away,
Speaker 1: completely untrue. I don't know who said that, stock X.
Speaker 1: I love Archer. Yeah, huge fan of the show that
Speaker 1: I happened to be on. Yeah, I know, it's like
Speaker 1: you're such a huge fans double yeah. It's it's like
Speaker 1: the best of everything show and it's still amazing. Like
Speaker 1: we're recording I'm recording an episode on Monday, and this
Speaker 1: gripped is hilarious. Like the the writers we've got going
Speaker 1: now are clearly big fans of the show, and so
Speaker 1: everybody is just at their bunkers, most them, all the characters.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. That's got to be fun to
Speaker 1: have a show that's been long running like that and
Speaker 1: having new writers come in that kind of like came
Speaker 1: up watching the show come on and get energized everything
Speaker 1: right like it was. They were all written for nine
Speaker 1: and a half season by Adam Reid, and he was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I'm so like these people
Speaker 1: arguing in my head. I'm so tired of it. I
Speaker 1: just can't do it. And so you know it, dude,
Speaker 1: we can use them other writers. And he finally just
Speaker 1: had to say, Okay, take my baby and write and
Speaker 1: they were amazing. The scripts are amazing. That's wonderful, man,
Speaker 1: because like this is I know we I don't think
Speaker 1: we talked too much about it in the last the
Speaker 1: last time and came on air, uh and I was
Speaker 1: I was also surprised by that question because every time
Speaker 1: we've had the conversation you've said the same thing. You've
Speaker 1: been like, I love the show so much that I'm
Speaker 1: on it, you know what I mean, which is the
Speaker 1: ultimate fandom. So we've cleared that up well. And if
Speaker 1: I may address stock X directly with this horrible accusation,
Speaker 1: it's really not here's what I think is going to happen.
Speaker 1: And one of one of the things that uh, one
Speaker 1: of the I'm gonna say downside, even though it's not
Speaker 1: really it's easily handled, but uh my, when I was
Speaker 1: streaming every night for nine months, literally a little community
Speaker 1: formed around the regulars. They started their own little discord.
Speaker 1: Two of them are dating now. Like, it's crazy that
Speaker 1: the like little group of friends that grew out of
Speaker 1: this thing, right, But they also sort of became a
Speaker 1: little territorial when it came to the chat feed, right,
Speaker 1: and I was doing shows, right, it wasn't just me
Speaker 1: sitting in front of a camera like I. It was
Speaker 1: always a fully formed, not fully formed idea, just an
Speaker 1: idea that I was like locked into and it was
Speaker 1: like this hour is going to be this, and sometimes
Speaker 1: leaning into puppetry, and there are different themes for every night.
Speaker 1: But if anybody, you know, a lot of people would
Speaker 1: just drop in and just start throwing archer questions around,
Speaker 1: which you know is naturally a natural if you know,
Speaker 1: somebody on a show you like is doing a live
Speaker 1: in Instagram and you're gonna click over and you're just
Speaker 1: gonna start throwing your con questions. And I would always say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is I'm actually doing this thing. This isn't a
Speaker 1: con but you know, so I'm just not doing archer questions. Well,
Speaker 1: my wonderful, amazing, supportive little group really sort of took
Speaker 1: it on themselves to become the police of the crowd
Speaker 1: to stop them from tipping my cart or doing I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're you know, their their intentions were good.
Speaker 1: The execution not so much. You know, we we get that. Um.
Speaker 1: We actually had a so I'm not gonna name names,
Speaker 1: but a local curmudgeon le uh, comedic personality uh posts
Speaker 1: some hot takes on the Here's where it gets crazy
Speaker 1: Facebook group. Um, when Ben proudly announced them so that
Speaker 1: I want you to know book that's coming up, just
Speaker 1: kind of an assholy congratulations, huge accomplishment, very exciting, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was a very assholy dismissive take
Speaker 1: on conspiracy shows writ large, right, which is this obviously
Speaker 1: this is not what the show is. The show is.
Speaker 1: We always say a critical thinking approach to conspiracy as
Speaker 1: we look at all sides, we have conversations, we get
Speaker 1: where we get organically, we're not trying to tell anybody
Speaker 1: to believe of this dude that we had never listened
Speaker 1: to the show. And then our lovely group just kind
Speaker 1: of dog piled on the man um. And to be fair,
Speaker 1: I kind of think he had it coming because he
Speaker 1: was it was an ill informed thing to say he
Speaker 1: wasn't reading the room at all, and that's what you get.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and that's so like I'm sure stock X
Speaker 1: probably jumped on a thing, said something and I might
Speaker 1: have said, hey, that's not what this is, or the
Speaker 1: rest of the group just like raw and then he thought,
Speaker 1: look you two George for stock X now and and
Speaker 1: you know, uh, I think it's clear that Stoke is
Speaker 1: a huge fan of yours. Definitely listening to the show.
Speaker 1: But we told you, we warned you it was hard
Speaker 1: hitting journalism, and I take all questions. I'm I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of nothing. Oh man, there's so much more to talk
Speaker 1: about here with Lucky. We're gonna go to a quick
Speaker 1: sponsor break and then we back with more and we're back. Well,
Speaker 1: I actually have a question for at least a topic
Speaker 1: of conversation, and it's just something that I don't think
Speaker 1: we've spoken about at length. You mentioned a radio station
Speaker 1: that you had interactions with and I think worked with
Speaker 1: Georgia six. It was really uh well yeah, in the
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio slash I Heart Media family. Yes, formally
Speaker 1: what did they used to be Clear Channel, Yes, but
Speaker 1: ninety six Rock was the quintessential station for me. That
Speaker 1: one was a big part of my life too, But
Speaker 1: like Rock was huge world. I wonder what it was
Speaker 1: like working in a radio station at that time, like
Speaker 1: what what's our state ranges? It was turn of the century,
Speaker 1: early two thousands, early two thousands, because I was doing
Speaker 1: the Lucky Eight's talk show at Dad's garage, and uh,
Speaker 1: there was a piece written about me and it was
Speaker 1: like in the Sunday a j C. And then Larry
Speaker 1: Wax from the Regular Guys read it, and then they
Speaker 1: brought me in on that show and we had a
Speaker 1: really good time, and so they would just keep bringing
Speaker 1: me back, and then eventually I would just start going
Speaker 1: in in the mornings because I could get up and
Speaker 1: it was right the street, and so I just like
Speaker 1: hanging around because I could jump on air a lot.
Speaker 1: And then they just started letting me screen phone calls,
Speaker 1: and then then I was sort of working. I was
Speaker 1: always just gigging, right, Like I was the free money
Speaker 1: moron for ninety six Rock for a while. I dressed
Speaker 1: up in a superhero fit and I was supposed to
Speaker 1: run around and give people money. But then we realized
Speaker 1: just what a horrible idea that was, Like there's a
Speaker 1: man in tights with a lot of cash and here's
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be, and we're like, let's not do that.
Speaker 1: So I ran around with the corporate credit card and
Speaker 1: I would like run into Walmart or pizza joints or
Speaker 1: just wherever we would run in me and whoever my
Speaker 1: handler was, and I would just like, oh, pay for that, madam,
Speaker 1: I'm the free money more on from Rock and I
Speaker 1: would pay for their thing, you know, their cart full
Speaker 1: of groceries. It's amazing. In my hometown, it was rock
Speaker 1: related one less. I don't know. It was a golden
Speaker 1: time though, Like in the nineties and early odds without
Speaker 1: you know that, you would just you go to the
Speaker 1: radio station, win some contest and you'd get like a
Speaker 1: thousand notched CDs, you know, oh yeah, going into the
Speaker 1: prize room. I was always getting up the promo guy like,
Speaker 1: hey man, can I go in there? Like I had
Speaker 1: my first iPod from there. For anyone that has a
Speaker 1: notched CD s where like they literally had like a
Speaker 1: groove cut in the side with like a fucking like
Speaker 1: soaw blade or something. It was so you knew they
Speaker 1: were not for recently, guess you go to CD warehouse,
Speaker 1: what did you see? Tons of CD Warehouse didn't know
Speaker 1: about those notches. Wow, well, is there anything else just
Speaker 1: from that time or from radio or just anything that
Speaker 1: would would be that you might consider stuff they didn't
Speaker 1: want you to know at the time like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I imagine, not completely not not at a heart facility
Speaker 1: of course, it was like it was lazy sales people.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean it was still like they
Speaker 1: were running on the nineteen eighties program still right, uh.
Speaker 1: And so it was it was just like the brower
Speaker 1: your brow year. They were the bigger brora, the higher
Speaker 1: up the ladder they were, uh. And it was just
Speaker 1: a lot of people scrambling to to be the new
Speaker 1: hot shot. But it was also the like prerecorded like
Speaker 1: there wasn't nobody was doing live radio except in the mornings.
Speaker 1: Like the Regular Guys Show was a live show. Uh.
Speaker 1: W all the A M stuff, W G, S T
Speaker 1: and all that that was live radio. But all the
Speaker 1: like cool music stations they were just like they would
Speaker 1: go in there and they would record their little intros
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff and do their whole show.
Speaker 1: It would take them like an hour to do a
Speaker 1: four hour show and then they would go and you know,
Speaker 1: off the rotation was all predetermined. They would I mean,
Speaker 1: they had the like, here's the songs you're introducing, here,
Speaker 1: the commercials you're doing, here's the thing, and they would
Speaker 1: just go in and record all their crap for the day,
Speaker 1: and then the computers would play it later on. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they're like, and that was spoon Man by Sound Garden.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back fifteen. Wait, we'll be right back here.
Speaker 1: You're on the bus. Yeah, yeah, And on the bus
Speaker 1: they all had weed names. I'm dank when my buddies
Speaker 1: was dank, and none of them smoked weed Eithermings. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's an ethical quandary. I know the FCC
Speaker 1: won't get at you about that, but I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you're running a show that is heavily implying that
Speaker 1: you were so into weed that your street name is dank,
Speaker 1: you should at least be doing in edible or something. Again,
Speaker 1: this is like two thousand, two thousand one didn't exist.
Speaker 1: There was though, yeah it's somebody your weird uncle was
Speaker 1: cooking brownies, you know, and it was just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. I now we'd take for granted, like how
Speaker 1: many flavors and potencies and exactly what type for what
Speaker 1: personality available. Let's talk a little bit about that because
Speaker 1: it's my favorite subject. Yeah, you've been a you know,
Speaker 1: you and I have known each other for a number
Speaker 1: of years, and now we all have known each other
Speaker 1: for a number of years. Um. Probably the only person
Speaker 1: at our company who's known you longer is the legendary
Speaker 1: infamous Jonathan Strickland. You mean, the quiz master. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got we got some questions actually from him. Yeah, lurks,
Speaker 1: he is a lurker. Lucky's first question actually before he
Speaker 1: started rolling, was is he going to be coming through?
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on with you guys.
Speaker 1: It will save that for later in the show. But
Speaker 1: or is there You're in the right place. So this is, um,
Speaker 1: this is a question. I established this background only to
Speaker 1: say that, Um, for the entire time that we've known
Speaker 1: each other, you have been a vocal proponent for Advocate. Yes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is a life changing plant for me. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it it puts me in the groove that I could
Speaker 1: never find my entire life, and it would always just
Speaker 1: cause you know, panic and anxiety and everything, and we
Speaker 1: just goes like here, you can you can be right
Speaker 1: here and this is the good place, and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: everything is completely manageable. It doesn't turn you instantly into
Speaker 1: a rapist and murderer. No, nor does it turn me
Speaker 1: into a lazy bones. I've never been more productive. Again,
Speaker 1: A strain for every mood, for every personality side, there's
Speaker 1: some that make you a little more like to do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get things done to make you up down
Speaker 1: on the couch we call in the in the couch, right,
Speaker 1: But now you can get like hybrid combinations of all
Speaker 1: of that stuff, you know. So this is where if
Speaker 1: only we're legal here in this state. Right, So this
Speaker 1: is one of the get there one of the questions
Speaker 1: I have for you. Yeah, we are in the US
Speaker 1: seeing kind of a paradigm shift, a sea change. But
Speaker 1: I know this is something you take really seriously. So
Speaker 1: in your opinion, what tipped the scale? Like for a
Speaker 1: long time, people like uh, groups like normal We're saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: listen to science is here. It's alcohol is way more.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about like nineties and two thousands, like during
Speaker 1: my the weed festivals like four tests and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We're tiny, little hilarious hippie you know, they would have
Speaker 1: a stage and there would be like, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a hundred people hanging around and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Just nothing. So yeah, are you asking me what tipped
Speaker 1: the scales towards towards the move on bread adoption. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like on a state level, to move towards first, I
Speaker 1: would say medicinal marijuana usage, and then decriminalization and then
Speaker 1: outright just legal mean, I suppose it's a bit of
Speaker 1: getting a half a century away from the Nixon ray,
Speaker 1: the Nixon message. He's the one that started the war
Speaker 1: on drugs uh and made weed I think a class
Speaker 1: one uh, and then it was backed up by the
Speaker 1: Reagans in the eighties. I think maybe just enough time
Speaker 1: away and a an odd uh phenomenon of it seems
Speaker 1: an entire generation of kids that have either or both
Speaker 1: anxiety and a d h D really weird. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Like I am an a d
Speaker 1: h D anxiety ritten kid, and I'm a gen xer.
Speaker 1: But man, you get into the like the generations after me,
Speaker 1: your millennials, youre gen z ears. It's nothing, but that's
Speaker 1: like it's the entire I think it's just, hey, man,
Speaker 1: we got to control this, and you know, adults like
Speaker 1: me or are like weed has always been great, and
Speaker 1: so now we're of age to be in charge of
Speaker 1: things and we're going to try to knock it finally
Speaker 1: knock it into the thing. And then I don't know
Speaker 1: what was the first state that that broke Colorado? Was
Speaker 1: it Colorado both medicinally and I think they were the
Speaker 1: first to go through go to decriminalization like they were
Speaker 1: the California too. I think when they made the medical
Speaker 1: cards so easy to get in California and it really
Speaker 1: was two hundred bucks and then you could go to
Speaker 1: a dispensary and just the proof is always in the
Speaker 1: pudding and in the banks where you like, look at
Speaker 1: all the money we're making. And also nobody is causing
Speaker 1: crimes because of this. But but they have much more
Speaker 1: of an appreciation for reggae. Those albums are solid like
Speaker 1: high hey man, all music is a one quick thing.
Speaker 1: There's an interesting law Ben and Matt and I were
Speaker 1: just talking about in New York. Um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: been decriminalized for a while, it's been outright legalized, and
Speaker 1: now the way is being paid for like brick and mortar,
Speaker 1: you know, shops, but I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: anywhere else in the country, but their law is kind
Speaker 1: of giving priority to folks with former marijuana convictions for
Speaker 1: being first in line to get the licenses to open,
Speaker 1: which is amazing. I think it's amazing. There's, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, people that are saying it's racist, you know,
Speaker 1: against white people, which is not a thing, but just stupid.
Speaker 1: It's very stupid, it's very shortsighted. It's just you know, again,
Speaker 1: wanted to create out of nothing. It's also a nation
Speaker 1: of selfish babies. A million person Yeah, but I just
Speaker 1: think it's a neat precedent to sets, you know, because
Speaker 1: so many people's lives were ruined by having a dimebag
Speaker 1: of We're gonna give you guys the first opportunity to
Speaker 1: turn this into a business. Sorry, we fucked you over
Speaker 1: so bad. You guys are first in line. If you
Speaker 1: want to make some money off of this new situation,
Speaker 1: then here is your license, which I think is um
Speaker 1: surprisingly inspiring. The least the system is literally the least,
Speaker 1: very least. So I've got to throw this in because
Speaker 1: we are going to get some emails. Let me help
Speaker 1: everybody out. If you are halfway through the email. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: you can put it in drafts. We've got the facts.
Speaker 1: California was the first state, like you said, to legalize
Speaker 1: medicinal cannabis, and that was in nineteen nineties six. Recreational
Speaker 1: cannabis comes from Colorado and Washington the same same time,
Speaker 1: and they made a ton of money in the schools, infrast,
Speaker 1: things that no one else will pay for. Gosh, sorry,
Speaker 1: I just had a thought here, guys. It was a
Speaker 1: very black mirror thought as you're describing that in New York,
Speaker 1: and I was just imagining a version of the future
Speaker 1: where murder homicide becomes illegal because they're just too many
Speaker 1: humans not enough resources. It's decriminalized. They make it, they
Speaker 1: make it a business. They give they give like serial
Speaker 1: killers and other mass murderers first choice for creating a business.
Speaker 1: And that's really good. Yeah, that's a cool twist on
Speaker 1: this idea. I like that. There is an amazing comic
Speaker 1: book series called Red Room Guy named Ed Piscor in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and it is Yeah, it's people who are like
Speaker 1: doing grizzly grizzly murders on the dark web for like bitcoin.
Speaker 1: It is it's you know, gruesome gruesome, deliciously gruesome comic book.
Speaker 1: And then of course there's that subplot in The Sandman
Speaker 1: with the serial killer convention, one of my favorites, and
Speaker 1: that's sort of like, Yeah, I like the idea of this,
Speaker 1: this demystifying or sort of making things like Grizzly Murder
Speaker 1: sort of boring and procedural. I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: that's interesting that we've gotta. Like. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're going to get to it, so I'm gonna push
Speaker 1: you into doing this. Word on the street, is you
Speaker 1: have I've made the move from comic and graphic novel
Speaker 1: fan to comic graphic novel creator's true Lester of the
Speaker 1: Lesser Gods is the name of my comic book myself. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Eric Powell, who is uh he runs Albatross Funny Books. Uh.
Speaker 1: He his work is The Goon if you're aware of
Speaker 1: the Eric and draws in that book. Uh. And he
Speaker 1: does hill Billy and he's got a whole big batch
Speaker 1: of titles. He just had an ed Geen graphic novel
Speaker 1: that came out last year, but it's called did you
Speaker 1: Hear what Eddie Gene Did? And as far as I
Speaker 1: am concerned the quintessential telling of that story. It is gorgeous. Um.
Speaker 1: And we snuck Lester out into the world that he
Speaker 1: was getting all this big buzz about the Eddie Gene
Speaker 1: book and we just snuck a little one off to
Speaker 1: it's Lester's origin story and then we're picking it back up.
Speaker 1: He's got an anthology book coming out called Albatross Funny
Speaker 1: Book and uh, it's going to be a running story
Speaker 1: in there. Wow, Wester. So where can I find it
Speaker 1: right now? At your local comic bookshop or go die.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Albatross Funny Books dot com. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't do the business part. That's all Eric's biz.
Speaker 1: Just google it. Uh Lesser Lesser Gods. So it's a
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic fantasy. Uh it's it takes place that Satan
Speaker 1: causes uh an immediate very Uh Thunder the Barbarian inspired.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that Thunder the Barbarian
Speaker 1: inspired where things just change immediately, like there's magic and
Speaker 1: there's all like's not the one with the blobby guy,
Speaker 1: those are that's the herculoid Barbarian. In the same it's
Speaker 1: Thunder a Princess Ariel and globe mock who is there Chewbacca,
Speaker 1: So that it's just so interesting to me because as
Speaker 1: a kid watching those, I was obsessed with the backstory
Speaker 1: and they never really bother to explain it. That's what
Speaker 1: the one off is his Lester story. It turns out
Speaker 1: that the apocalypse happens, and then Lester finds out that
Speaker 1: he's the bastard son of odin Uh and so he's
Speaker 1: a god. He's a demigod, and he can sort of
Speaker 1: claim the earth in the name of good and defeat evil.
Speaker 1: And if he does, if he defeats all evil, he'll
Speaker 1: get to live in the basement of Valhalla, which is
Speaker 1: what he is. And he's a thirty six year old
Speaker 1: like larp nerd the basement, so it's everything he's ever wanted.
Speaker 1: He's never really fit into the real world. But when
Speaker 1: the apocalypse happens, he finds out he's a god and
Speaker 1: he's ready to rock. But is it is it like
Speaker 1: a full in law suite or like what is the
Speaker 1: basement actually an unfinished Yeah, the wood paneling and you know,
Speaker 1: just an afghan on an already couch. Yeah, one of
Speaker 1: those what are those lazy boy recliners that seems timeless. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of like some duct tape catching up a rip.
Speaker 1: It's except it will be a Nordic beer or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that that's out now, I have that on my list.
Speaker 1: I wanted to check it out as well. I didn't
Speaker 1: know I should have brought some in. I didn't even think.
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I thought you was you were talking
Speaker 1: about a friend's comic book. I didn't know that you
Speaker 1: actually wrote it. Yeah, I'm writing it. Well, So the
Speaker 1: first issue. Eric, myself and a guy named Matt Cushing
Speaker 1: wrote the first one, and uh, we were once upon
Speaker 1: a very long time ago. It was. It was developed
Speaker 1: as a TV pitch because we had a development deal
Speaker 1: with Turner for just a couple of years, and then
Speaker 1: it just that once that delapsed, it became ours again.
Speaker 1: And then we decided to do it as a comic
Speaker 1: and it was Eric and My book from the get go.
Speaker 1: We brought in some others folks to get us going
Speaker 1: on the book, and then now it's just Eric and I. Again.
Speaker 1: That's cool, man, So I'm glad it's continuing. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great because I just sit around and write these
Speaker 1: goofy stories and then send them to Eric, You're involved
Speaker 1: with so much story makes in a comic book. I
Speaker 1: think it's time for a Jonathan question. This might be
Speaker 1: the last segment. Guys, this might be. It can't be,
Speaker 1: I think so, right, aren't we running on it's a podcast,
Speaker 1: Yeah we can do. What are you talking about? What
Speaker 1: do you have somewhere to be? Man? I didn't want
Speaker 1: to waste your time, waste my time? Do you know
Speaker 1: what I would be doing? Otherwise? I would be doing
Speaker 1: exactly this, except there wouldn't be three people around me.
Speaker 1: I would just be sitting here smoking and talking. Not
Speaker 1: that I'm smoking. So that's what I would be doing
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah, so here we ignore that smell. So
Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland, friend of the show, you know him? You
Speaker 1: know him? He says, yes, he has feel certain kinds
Speaker 1: of ways about him. Right, right, right, he says. Ask
Speaker 1: Lucky about the time he had Alton Brown and the
Speaker 1: chief Medical Examiner for the State of Georgia on stage
Speaker 1: at the same time parentheses. This was following the infamous
Speaker 1: tri State crematory case. Yeah, that was back in the
Speaker 1: Lucky Talk show. Uh Dr Chris Sperry. He was my
Speaker 1: most regular guest. The chief medical Examiner of the State
Speaker 1: of Georgia, and he would always bring in uh. After
Speaker 1: things went through the court system in the trial happened
Speaker 1: all the evidence, they would either destroy it, but sometimes
Speaker 1: Chris would grab some nuggets and say, I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep this and put it in my office. And so
Speaker 1: he brought in things like a bong made out of
Speaker 1: a humans go, a mummified hand and wrist, a skull
Speaker 1: with a big hole in it, ship like that. It
Speaker 1: was awesome, and so he Alton Brown. That was Alton's
Speaker 1: first time on the show. I'm pretty sure when he
Speaker 1: doubled up with Sperry and Uh. I just remember the
Speaker 1: two of them before the show, sitting backstage talking about
Speaker 1: where the best burger in town was, and it was like,
Speaker 1: here's a guy that handles nothing but dead people talking
Speaker 1: to the dead animal guy, and who cooks them? What
Speaker 1: was the consensus for the best And this was early Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was before a lot of like the boutique burger.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there, We've been overrun by good burgers since then.
Speaker 1: Vortex still in the top I would say, in the
Speaker 1: top three for sure. I mean when when they had
Speaker 1: those zucchini chip things like that, was that was peak
Speaker 1: Vortex for me. I think they took them away, maybe
Speaker 1: they brought them back. Also, still think they've they've done
Speaker 1: a good job of cultivating the sense of mystery by
Speaker 1: like not letting under twenty one people in at all,
Speaker 1: under twenty one people, you know, children. But it's a restaurant.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, a bar, but every other
Speaker 1: restaurant in town also is a bar. What makes them
Speaker 1: special because they do, Yeah, they want the bar to
Speaker 1: be more important than the restaurant, and yet it's it's
Speaker 1: and it's you know, they got you know, girls with
Speaker 1: their titties hanging out all over there, you know, hanging
Speaker 1: on the walls, and you know, they got like centerfolds
Speaker 1: from old man back in the day, they used to
Speaker 1: have in the afternoon shift, they used to have the
Speaker 1: titty races and yeah, back you know, in between sort
Speaker 1: of lunch and dinner when it was just dead. But
Speaker 1: they were just the bar flies, the wait staff, somebody
Speaker 1: behind the bar column and the wait staff would rip
Speaker 1: off their shirts run around the restaurant. Wow, was a
Speaker 1: golden time old Atlanta. Yeah, if anyone does at the
Speaker 1: Vortex like it's it's a fixture in little five points
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, the Laughing Skull, the Laughing Skull logo. You
Speaker 1: would absolutely relations one one on Peach Street and they've
Speaker 1: got a great little comedy club on next there. Used
Speaker 1: to do shows at the Yeah, I did my talk
Speaker 1: show in the Laughing Skull Lounge, and I used to
Speaker 1: em see the Dames of Flame burlesque show in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. Oh guys, hold on, let's pump our brakes,
Speaker 1: take a quick ad break, and then come back for
Speaker 1: more of this. Okay, we got back. We all went
Speaker 1: through a lot during the ad break, but we're still friends,
Speaker 1: so let's get back into it. So we've talked about
Speaker 1: a couple of things. We've gone a couple of different directions.
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you what was going on with
Speaker 1: Matt all in myself during the pandemic. We kept the
Speaker 1: show going. We were on. We were in each other's
Speaker 1: uh we're in each other's zoom calls. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: got in each other's business because we were the people
Speaker 1: we talked to the most for like two years and
Speaker 1: uh we uh it was funny because I I don't
Speaker 1: know about you guys, but I had to turn a
Speaker 1: room in my place away from being a bedroom and
Speaker 1: into being kind of a studio. And so I have
Speaker 1: a giant fricking plastic skeleton that lives there now, which
Speaker 1: I've I've grown accustomed to, but one of those big
Speaker 1: home depot twelve foot ones. Not yet, not yet because
Speaker 1: of because of the it's the ceiling is stopping meant ones.
Speaker 1: This is like a medical uh you know, yeah, it's Skully,
Speaker 1: it's a bas Scot. But um, so we all we
Speaker 1: all had these changes and we ended up going on
Speaker 1: a couple of adventures too. Man. We went to Nashville, right,
Speaker 1: went to Nashville, We went to We just got back
Speaker 1: from Austin south By Southwest have you ever been. I
Speaker 1: think we had a good time, but I think a lot. Sure,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It seems like it's too much. Well,
Speaker 1: we weren't even involved in the actual, you know, official events,
Speaker 1: but our company rented this gorgeous boutique hotel called the
Speaker 1: Saint Cecilia, which is like kind of storied and it's
Speaker 1: sort of off the beaten path, and it was all
Speaker 1: just populated by like CEOs and cmos and CFOs all
Speaker 1: the those and um it was a closed event, so
Speaker 1: it was like you know a lot of people that
Speaker 1: were actually staying there, and it felt like this kind
Speaker 1: of weird respite from all the craziness of like the drag,
Speaker 1: the main drag, but we got to schmooze it up
Speaker 1: with some very powerful human beings by a lot of them.
Speaker 1: And uh performance by the band A j R. They
Speaker 1: were quite good. Did you guys know the food fighters
Speaker 1: recorded it did the whole thing in that where we
Speaker 1: were hanging. It's called the St. Cecilia EP and they
Speaker 1: recorded in like the bar area and the back. I
Speaker 1: believe yeah, well, I um so, I have an old
Speaker 1: tior motive bringing this up. It wasn't just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to tell you about our adventures. I don't
Speaker 1: believe you. You know, you to take your rut to brag. Okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't checked with you guys on this,
Speaker 1: but we get yeah, as we get some uh, as
Speaker 1: we are traveling more, which all three of us love
Speaker 1: to do. We love to be on the road. What's
Speaker 1: the what are the odds of us getting you to
Speaker 1: do something live with us? I mean yes, one to one. Okay.
Speaker 1: We're not going to give you any details, by the way,
Speaker 1: about what this would be because we haven't checked. Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got some little stuff coming, but I
Speaker 1: mean it'd be so funny. I travel, I have a truck,
Speaker 1: don't know how to drive, Okada, are you like big
Speaker 1: timing notes? Now, no, we can all drive. We know
Speaker 1: how to drive. My driver on the second attempt, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. So a parallel parking that gets too But
Speaker 1: now I'm an expert at you gotta pull directly alongside
Speaker 1: the car in front of you and cut the wheel,
Speaker 1: get back in there and then straighten it out. I
Speaker 1: wish this was on video so you guys could see
Speaker 1: knows and like three point kids, learn about it, memorize it,
Speaker 1: learn it, live it. Live in a big city where
Speaker 1: you're driving, you're gonna need to utilize that uilize. So
Speaker 1: that would be awesome because we do have we have
Speaker 1: big things ahead, and it always seems like these conversations
Speaker 1: are things that we would we would want to keep
Speaker 1: going with. We want to go hang out, like honestly, folks,
Speaker 1: after we close the show, we might go get something
Speaker 1: to eat. I don't know where it's gonna I'm out food.
Speaker 1: Never mind what I just said about being a bit
Speaker 1: to eat after shows, that's that's sorry. To have a line,
Speaker 1: man's got to have a code. I respect that. I
Speaker 1: do think we would be remiss if we didn't end
Speaker 1: on at least a couple more questions. Let's do it alright,
Speaker 1: So only Matt has somewhere important. Yeah, it's at the
Speaker 1: Ramen shop after we wrap. So any s says, I
Speaker 1: don't any Nintendo Entertainment system. Maybe that's who it is.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, says Lions how many wins this year? Now
Speaker 1: you're a big Detroit Lions fans, Detroit Lions fans. Is
Speaker 1: she quizzing him for stats? I guess just saying, what
Speaker 1: do you think? Seven wins? Okay, I'm gonna seven wins?
Speaker 1: That a lot? It is for the Lions. Not that
Speaker 1: good historically the worst. Yeah, they're kind of towards the bottom.
Speaker 1: You were ever were forever rebuilding. That's very I just
Speaker 1: got back. Yeah, I've never been. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: amazing that. I'm serious. I don't know either. Grid iron
Speaker 1: football Okay, okay, there's about a grid iron just like
Speaker 1: to differentiate it from real football, which is what we
Speaker 1: call soccer. Way, just the gridiron has become Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's because the grid once upon a time. However, the
Speaker 1: thing was laid out. I don't know where the iron
Speaker 1: part comes. Yeah, I do not. Well, we'll find out.
Speaker 1: Someone will write to us. But before we'll just lightning,
Speaker 1: quick lightning. Okay, if we get a sound effect, perfect, Oh,
Speaker 1: even better. Okay, So you're doing fully work. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: So going to a high school called Bishop Fully So,
Speaker 1: I'm very Oh you were in the ap fully program.
Speaker 1: I was all right. A man made it almost to
Speaker 1: the top of Catholicism just doing fully work. It was
Speaker 1: between you and the guys, the pope out. Okay, so
Speaker 1: Val says, does he put his uh? Does he put
Speaker 1: both socks on before his shoes or one sock of
Speaker 1: one shoe before moving to the other foot. I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't really pay attention to know what sort of
Speaker 1: a fuge steak? I guess do you lucky? Do you
Speaker 1: have any pets anymore? He died? Jackson, good old abe
Speaker 1: Jackson R. You should see a shrine. It's glorious. Well,
Speaker 1: I've got a long haired white dog that is like
Speaker 1: one of those. It's like a gold laware yes, and
Speaker 1: it's finally allowed to wear all black. That's exactly. I
Speaker 1: went all black after Abe died, and it's not because
Speaker 1: I'm mourning. It's because I couldn't really wear black clothes
Speaker 1: for sixteen years because I was covered in Abe. Gosh,
Speaker 1: that's okay. So for me, it's socks. If I don't vacuum,
Speaker 1: Like a minute before I put my socks and shoes on,
Speaker 1: they're covered in hair. And then my shoes are covered
Speaker 1: in hair, so I have to put one. I take
Speaker 1: my socks over to where my shoes are, put one
Speaker 1: sock on while I stand on one foot, put that
Speaker 1: shoe on, and then do the other one because otherwise
Speaker 1: the whole, my whole being is in inundated. Here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to not have to vacuum every single day again.
Speaker 1: Did you have to have like a bespoke kind of
Speaker 1: like pet centric vacuum? Uh? You try, you know, I
Speaker 1: never really pulled the big trigger. And when uh what's
Speaker 1: named Dyson shark shark they're they're cheap and they're so good.
Speaker 1: I don't want a battery powered vacuum. They last for
Speaker 1: five minutes. I have accorded stick vacuum from sharks. Same
Speaker 1: fucking rules. You've got a landline vacuum you guys. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I don't mind whipping that cord around. I know how
Speaker 1: to work it. Very very last question I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: into this, I probably socks first. I'm gonna say I
Speaker 1: probably most likely both socks, because you know, I don't know, really,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't make shoe decisions until I'm about
Speaker 1: to put them on. You can see where my head
Speaker 1: is and you might want to be sucked while hanging
Speaker 1: around the house there so you can get that tom
Speaker 1: cruise going to the slides. I have learned, uh the magic.
Speaker 1: This is only recently in my life. Slippy slip shoes.
Speaker 1: I recently got some kinch your outdoors. I have just
Speaker 1: a pair of crocs, a simple pair of Camo crocs,
Speaker 1: which by the way, I got into last year, and
Speaker 1: they are so great. You're a croc master now I am. Now.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I ever would be, but fifty four
Speaker 1: year old Stoner Lucky Eight's loves and crocks. They're big
Speaker 1: with the kids man fishing crocs now with little giblets
Speaker 1: or whatever they called something like that. Gimblets, you know
Speaker 1: that they're little things you stick in the little charms
Speaker 1: and a lot of buttons and charms and they're called
Speaker 1: like giblets. It giblets. All right, well, okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: I put my socks on first, alight that uh and
Speaker 1: any s was the Lions stock X was the seven
Speaker 1: seven wins? Seven wins? Okay, very last questions. I am apologized. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not apologizing. I love I love Archer. Yes, we
Speaker 1: do too. Actually, U, it's weird because we don't often
Speaker 1: talk about it with you. That was the first time
Speaker 1: we really did. Last question, last question the show. Are
Speaker 1: you sure I believe? So? Alright, what if I have
Speaker 1: a question? Yeah, last question from us for the show
Speaker 1: for me and then hasn't asked a single question. That's
Speaker 1: not true. That's not true. But but okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to listen. Yeah, yeah, there, So I gotta
Speaker 1: get that chat feedwork since we haven't talked in years
Speaker 1: on air. Is there any conspiracy or conspiracy theory that
Speaker 1: you've been thinking about you never got back to? UFOs
Speaker 1: are real? We never Yeah, We're all like like, UFOs
Speaker 1: are goddamn here. Yes, they're back. They're checking us out.
Speaker 1: We don't know what they're doing. People from the Navy
Speaker 1: or like you know there's it's a UFO. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. It can't move like that if
Speaker 1: it's from this planet. It can't dive into water and
Speaker 1: keep up the same rate of speed asiness out come
Speaker 1: on man. And everybody's like, I don't like the other person,
Speaker 1: because I mean when people think about disclosure, I think
Speaker 1: they're expecting like an alien envoy to land and shake hands,
Speaker 1: the spectacles. This is underwhelming to those people, I think.
Speaker 1: But absolutely it's nothing that we haven't already all been
Speaker 1: pretty confident about whether these are extraterrestrial or that's just
Speaker 1: like secret military experiments that we're not being made aware of. Whatever.
Speaker 1: There's absolutely stuff that we don't know about. Technology wise,
Speaker 1: it exists. I have theories. Have you gone through this already,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you have. In the document there was one point,
Speaker 1: then a couple. There's one in particular that was like,
Speaker 1: that's a weird one to just drop in there so
Speaker 1: the public. There are two versions of this document, one
Speaker 1: for Congress, which has a lot more detail than when
Speaker 1: the public can see, which is literally like two three pages,
Speaker 1: and most of it is we need more money because
Speaker 1: it's a government document. But there is that one point
Speaker 1: where they're breaking down all the stuff they think it
Speaker 1: could be. It's the usual stuff from Project Bluebook. And
Speaker 1: at the end they say there's a bunch that we
Speaker 1: don't know about, or it has technology that we do
Speaker 1: not understand. So like this science is beyond observers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and for everybody who was like, well,
Speaker 1: we don't know it could be some Russian thing that there.
Speaker 1: Look at how it's going in the Ukraine. Russia, they
Speaker 1: do not technology to do this thing. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what we Russia for being. Russia is known for the
Speaker 1: savvy with technology, but also sloppy and they rush things.
Speaker 1: There's a whole community around like weird Russian synthesizers from
Speaker 1: the eighties that are like, you know, collectible but also
Speaker 1: weird and some are kind of shitty but in a
Speaker 1: fun way and the same we've talked about like the
Speaker 1: payloads potentially, and like the nuclear arsenal they have, who
Speaker 1: knows what state of repair they're in, how old they are,
Speaker 1: if they'll even fucking fire, you know. So no, I
Speaker 1: don't I mean, again, no shade on any Russian people
Speaker 1: out there. I mean the people are I'm fine with
Speaker 1: the people it's the leadership. I have a beef leadership,
Speaker 1: but hired militia. Absolutely. But I'm just saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: they are known for being a little bit quick and
Speaker 1: loose with their tech. Yeah, they can't pull this off though, man,
Speaker 1: not without us going like oh yeah, sure, that's a
Speaker 1: bling blank blom. You know. So then why would why
Speaker 1: if indeed there are things piloted by non human intelligence
Speaker 1: ismensional yeah, right, that's one possible dimensional cross Is it
Speaker 1: a time? Yeah? Why are they? Why? What's the what's
Speaker 1: the end game? What do you think? Why would they
Speaker 1: be here? Well, it's just such are They're so quick
Speaker 1: and like they zip around and then disappear that it
Speaker 1: seems that it's either joy ride teenager, it's an alien
Speaker 1: or it's just an experimental Oh look what we can
Speaker 1: we can dip in here, zoom around. Look what I
Speaker 1: got this? Like, I don't know, I really have no idea.
Speaker 1: Maybe recon of some kind that would be great. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's like those drive through Safari preservations. Yeah, there's something
Speaker 1: like some alien hillbilly charging. This is just some car
Speaker 1: that gets to drive through the path of the the
Speaker 1: Ape run planet. There's a bunch of that run this planet?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go there? It's weird. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of pretty stuff and then the murder rapes and
Speaker 1: then they're like, uh, they're rating it on alien yelp,
Speaker 1: and they're like, I didn't see a single murder. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we'll go back, though, because the gift shop
Speaker 1: is dope three out of five stars. Uh went into
Speaker 1: the Do you know this place is mostly water? They
Speaker 1: didn't say that in the brochure. We have water at home,
Speaker 1: so zip around between the water and I mean it
Speaker 1: might be since there, you know, I mean, what's the
Speaker 1: deal with being able to dip into the ocean and
Speaker 1: then come back out at the same rate? Like, that's
Speaker 1: just bananas. It is really crazy unless it's some sort
Speaker 1: of Yes, Matt, I was literally doing the thing where
Speaker 1: he takes his finger and points it right at his
Speaker 1: temple to indicate an idea. I've been playing way too
Speaker 1: many science fiction video games lately and consuming way too
Speaker 1: much of this stuff. I'm imagining this guy's what if
Speaker 1: there is a they're independent or independently um evolved civilizations,
Speaker 1: they get far advanced, right, that could potentially make it
Speaker 1: sho thing Like well, then you know, there was a
Speaker 1: technologically advanced civilization here before and then it all went away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Disney documentary film Atlantis. And also there's that weird computer
Speaker 1: thing that they don't know how they did back then.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. But but okay, so that that occurs right
Speaker 1: in various places throughout our galaxy, and when they get
Speaker 1: to us, this is really just the game mass effect.
Speaker 1: But once they get to a sufficient level, of my
Speaker 1: good friends, but when they get to a certain level,
Speaker 1: they are there's like a federation of some sort where
Speaker 1: everybody kind of agrees if we're going to, you know,
Speaker 1: make use of technology at this level, we're gonna cooperate
Speaker 1: or you know, face consequences. The way of NATO currently
Speaker 1: is in our in this planet, in this reality, North
Speaker 1: Atlantic Treaty Organization. Yes, so these things that we're observing
Speaker 1: that we can't understand, that we can see are like
Speaker 1: the c i A of these various species and civilizations
Speaker 1: coming down and doing a little like rerecon and wet
Speaker 1: work and like little things that they have to do.
Speaker 1: And so they can't outwardly, uh, interact with us and
Speaker 1: change the course of history. And I bet somebody got
Speaker 1: fired for that much. They made the news for that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just get into people's butts, mess with some cattle,
Speaker 1: and then they're out. Do you think we're getting like
Speaker 1: the Gomer Piles, That's what I'm saying. I don't know
Speaker 1: we're getting the A List. Yeah. Yeah, but there's like
Speaker 1: a Herbert Hoover up there, you know, scoring mercilessly in
Speaker 1: people's faces. I would like that because it would make
Speaker 1: this understandable to me. The biggest, the biggest missing pieces
Speaker 1: the why, right, And you'll see people say that it's
Speaker 1: to prevent nuclear war or something like that, and there's
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. There was that one thing where
Speaker 1: maybe they disabled a nuclear power plant or something that
Speaker 1: that's the idea. That's the baby, and I've found some
Speaker 1: interesting stuff about it. But other than that, you know,
Speaker 1: I would love it if it turned out there were
Speaker 1: some intergalactic or interdimensional bumblers who were like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they crashed Land and instead of saying take me to
Speaker 1: your leader, they're like, hey, we got a hot out
Speaker 1: real quick Space Invaders. It was a small, very dumb,
Speaker 1: minor nineties creature type movie. It was a comedy about
Speaker 1: these stoner aliens that crash Land on Earth and then
Speaker 1: just drink a bunch of beer and like, look at
Speaker 1: boobs and stuff. I saw in the theaters. I distinctly
Speaker 1: remembers seeing it, and I was the only one in
Speaker 1: the theater. Sounds like something that's probably on Amazon props.
Speaker 1: You gotta look spaced with an E. D. Judy Dench,
Speaker 1: Cap Blanchet. They're all unrecognizable as the leaden. They shot
Speaker 1: it on the Excalibur set in a spare weekend. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I want it all, I know, give me all of it.
Speaker 1: But here's here. I have a theory that uh mankind
Speaker 1: is that Earth is a prison planet, much like Australia,
Speaker 1: where we are the worst of the worst from some
Speaker 1: planet they just got. They dumped people you know whoever
Speaker 1: here because they're like, we gotta get rid of that.
Speaker 1: They thought, yeah, these are terrible, terrible whatever we are,
Speaker 1: so put them on that little, nice little planet that'll
Speaker 1: be able to lift SETI Alpha five City Alpha six.
Speaker 1: Do you see sit the seats. That's a little wrath
Speaker 1: of con And we think, you know, there's all this
Speaker 1: like you know, purple mountains, majesty and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But compared to like the other planet, is this is
Speaker 1: all garbage because we don't know where the cognitive leap
Speaker 1: came from. We don't know. We're all the you know,
Speaker 1: how did we make this leap from little forest creature
Speaker 1: to this weird hairless ape. We are now what if?
Speaker 1: And these are maybe just some guards like, hey, we
Speaker 1: should good check on that prison planet. See what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they figured out nukes. They're not as
Speaker 1: dumb as we thought, but yet dumber we thought, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: or like oh yeah, that's going exactly as we plan.
Speaker 1: That could also be it. They just have to come
Speaker 1: by and go like, oh yeah, they're on track. They'll
Speaker 1: destroy each other in another four years. Guys, don't sweat.
Speaker 1: That's brilliant because we we really wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: hurt anything else outside of the you know, very short
Speaker 1: range of our place, and that they might start showing
Speaker 1: up again now because we are starting to come up
Speaker 1: with plans to colonize other planets. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, you're not allowed to get off. That
Speaker 1: one that put you on space exploration is huge. It
Speaker 1: gives us a lot of new science for people on
Speaker 1: Earth as well, Like it is a net benefit. But
Speaker 1: maybe we should fit I don't know. It's also a
Speaker 1: very human idea of imprisonment, right like, but we did
Speaker 1: it with Australia, and we do it with buildings, you know,
Speaker 1: like just lock them they are So who's to say
Speaker 1: we're not some inter intergalactic criminal species, or at the
Speaker 1: very least in time out to think about what we've done.
Speaker 1: I think we thought about it a lot, and we
Speaker 1: just keep doing it, just kept doing or even thinking
Speaker 1: about it since the ancient Greeks. Yes, lucky, we're we're
Speaker 1: a viral life form that was discovered and they isolated
Speaker 1: us here to keep us under observation. Or it's a
Speaker 1: simulation and we're all I love that because I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. I'll tell you what if we're a simulation,
Speaker 1: or if we're all being run, if I'm just an
Speaker 1: avatar for some whatever. Because when you sit there and
Speaker 1: think you're like, well, who is it, that's thinking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh my dude's pretty awesome guy. He puts me in
Speaker 1: trouble sometime, but he always gets me out of it.
Speaker 1: I like, I like my controller. That's awesome. I got
Speaker 1: no problems with that one. And we are going to
Speaker 1: haul it a day for our avatars for your avatars
Speaker 1: A like fellow conspiracy realists, think us always so much
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Speaker 1: any time. Honestly, we haven't done an in person episode.
Speaker 1: We've done ridiculous history together at the time, but I
Speaker 1: don't think the three of us have done this since
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Speaker 1: that up. Oh really, it's like I have to go
Speaker 1: every day and you know, dig up some fossils. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's you. I don't want to start. I
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Speaker 1: on for an hour about animal crossing. So you were
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Speaker 1: lester of the gods. Remember that six year old larp
Speaker 1: Nerd finds out he's the son of Odin? And is
Speaker 1: there a new season of Archer on the way or
Speaker 1: were in the middle of recording it? So I have
Speaker 1: no idea when it airs season thirteen probably the fall.
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume the falls, and I think were
Speaker 1: going to be the last season or is that? And
Speaker 1: that's always people that people. I mean, ever since we
Speaker 1: finished the you know, we had a three year contract
Speaker 1: and then they we've just gone back to like yearly
Speaker 1: renewals since then, and so everybody Jessica Walter died, right,
Speaker 1: and so everybody just sort of assumed, well, that's going
Speaker 1: to be it. But I mean where the show is
Speaker 1: still Riotus is sleep funny as as long as you
Speaker 1: and you all enjoy doing I just love putting it on.
Speaker 1: You kind of do a voice on the show. It's
Speaker 1: sort of really yeah, it's just exactly but like I
Speaker 1: love how h John Benjamin just never has to not
Speaker 1: be h John Benjaman no matter what characters playing. And
Speaker 1: he's got the starring cartoon rolls. He's got that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the home movies? Yeah, yeah, but it's him with
Speaker 1: like a a stuffed up nose. Does he do a
Speaker 1: different voice coaches? Yeah, he does. One of the kids
Speaker 1: just stuffed it's just John with stuffed up what he's
Speaker 1: that guy? What are the what are the weird voices?
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