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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Knowledge. They called
Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer
Speaker 1: Paul Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. You
Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want
Speaker 1: you to know. Folks, we have a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: conversations off air, and not all of them make it
Speaker 1: on air. But we, like many other folks in the
Speaker 1: audience today, have been talking a lot about the effects
Speaker 1: of money. We did. We did an episode a few
Speaker 1: years back called being wealthy make You a Bad Person
Speaker 1: or something? And the science is surprisingly depressing and pretty solid. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I think our conclusion was it doesn't necessarily make
Speaker 1: you a bad person. It just makes it much easier
Speaker 1: for you to become a bad person or behave in
Speaker 1: uncool ways. But that's like an open secret. It's not
Speaker 1: even a secret that money can make you increasingly disconnected
Speaker 1: from the world around you. You get surrounded by opulent things. Uh,
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of syncophants and and yes, folks,
Speaker 1: and you're able to do whatever you want often without consequences,
Speaker 1: and that can make people jaded. The old Ivory Tower situation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's prety, it applies. I mean, it's literally like you
Speaker 1: have the resources to kind of wall yourself in, whether
Speaker 1: physically or socially or economically. And then like your old
Speaker 1: friends from you know, when you were poor, Uh, they
Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with you anymore because you've changed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, as many of our YouTube commenters I've
Speaker 1: noticed recently and said out loud, we have that McDonald's
Speaker 1: money now, so we get right, Oh, we've got the juice. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's also the only point I would expand on there
Speaker 1: is that Sadly, another open secret is that the ragster
Speaker 1: richest stories are much less common than the media would
Speaker 1: have us believe. So often, if you lose touch with
Speaker 1: your old friends, they're your old friends from Phillips Exeter
Speaker 1: or Harvard business and you're just out of touch. But
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, we do. We have that McDonald's
Speaker 1: money now, and we've you know, got like I got
Speaker 1: really into faberge eggs and monocles what weird things have
Speaker 1: you guys gotten into? Well, I don't know, but you guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm really enjoying my golden arches emblazoned Cadillac when
Speaker 1: I was gifted by the corporation as we refer to it.
Speaker 1: And h yeah, I've been getting mcdonne old pizzas delivered
Speaker 1: to me from or whenever it was. They're they're still good,
Speaker 1: by the way. Awesome. Yeah, that's what happened to them.
Speaker 1: If you want to check out more to learn this,
Speaker 1: check out the podcast that we just learned about today,
Speaker 1: whatever happened to pizza at McDonald's spoilers Other than that,
Speaker 1: there are hundred and seventy seven episodes, so get ready. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you're you're right. We as people look for new experiences,
Speaker 1: and when you have access to so many experiences so easily,
Speaker 1: you get a little jaded. You want new levels of exclusivity.
Speaker 1: I don't want to own a parrot anymore. What's the
Speaker 1: most endangered illegal bird? I want to own that and
Speaker 1: I want to teach it to dance with my tiger. Yes.
Speaker 1: And you know, another important thing is that wealth often
Speaker 1: comes over time and with age, and as you're getting older,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about a lot of things. One of the
Speaker 1: major topics on your mind is self preservation. Right, so,
Speaker 1: I I feel like another way to phrase that two
Speaker 1: is new escapes, and one of the big escapes is
Speaker 1: an escape from mortality. Uh. So, it's no surprise there's
Speaker 1: some very wealthy or very powerful people get into really weird,
Speaker 1: esoteric stuff, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's
Speaker 1: just stuff that's merely out of the reach for most
Speaker 1: of the public. Like you buy a dirigible, you're not
Speaker 1: hurting anybody. It's just most people can't buy an airship.
Speaker 1: But also likely, let's just say too, when we're talking
Speaker 1: about these types of you know, escapes from mortality, Uh,
Speaker 1: they could just be really expensive skincare products. They could
Speaker 1: just be you know, really really pricey spa vacations, things
Speaker 1: like that. Mud baths that the average person couldn't afford.
Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily mean, you know, drinking the blood of virgins
Speaker 1: or children. But today's story is about the dark side
Speaker 1: of elite hobbies. It's a tale about shadow we secretive acts,
Speaker 1: a new unholy combination, the bleeding edge of modern science
Speaker 1: and allegedly ancient rites. You see, folks, you may have
Speaker 1: heard recently that there's a hot new drug, or I
Speaker 1: should say a hot new drug making the rounds amid
Speaker 1: the uppists of the upper crust. It's called a dreen
Speaker 1: of chrome. Here are the facts a dreen of chrome.
Speaker 1: You may have this. This word might be ringing some bells.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a sect, but here is
Speaker 1: the official story. First things first, it is real. It
Speaker 1: is a chemical compound that's produced by the breakdown of
Speaker 1: naturally occurring epinefrin or adrenaline. It's created both synthetically um
Speaker 1: and in small amounts inside the human body and other
Speaker 1: mammals as well. The first synthesis lab creation of epinefrin
Speaker 1: was in nineteen o four, and synthetic epineffer and hit
Speaker 1: the market in nineteen o six. So to convert the
Speaker 1: up an effronto adrena chrome, all you have to do
Speaker 1: is allow it to oxidize you. You essentially um manufacture
Speaker 1: and oxidization reaction with another compound called silver oxide. So
Speaker 1: what what are the effects on humans? Well, there's there's
Speaker 1: been some testing, uh quite quite a quite a bit,
Speaker 1: but not as much as you may think on this substance.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into the reasons why testing on this
Speaker 1: substance isn't widespread. But you can use this stuff in
Speaker 1: labs for all kinds of varying research projects. Really, researchers
Speaker 1: have found that there are a few uses for it medically.
Speaker 1: But again, this isn't It's not like this stuff is
Speaker 1: being used all around the world to test for one
Speaker 1: specific thing. Yeah, yeah, this is is funny. It reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit of the story of cream of tartar,
Speaker 1: which some of us may have in our pantries today. Uh.
Speaker 1: Cream of tartar is like a byproduct of wine production.
Speaker 1: It's the gunk left over in the barrels of wine,
Speaker 1: and it's used for a couple of specific things. Uh.
Speaker 1: But but is it considered a staple? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I would I would argue no for many people. Uh,
Speaker 1: dren new chrome is kind of chemically it's kind of
Speaker 1: like that, like they know how it's made, they know
Speaker 1: the bodies produce it, they know it has maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of medical uses, but there's not like it's not
Speaker 1: like the silver bullet or miracle cure for something at
Speaker 1: this point officially, but wait, so there are also some dangers,
Speaker 1: possibly some downsides to humans being exposed to too much
Speaker 1: adrenal chrome. Uh. There were some small scale studies back
Speaker 1: in the through the fifties to about the seventies. Unlet
Speaker 1: I say small, we mean fewer than fifteen test subjects here,
Speaker 1: and these studies appeared to show this substance could trigger
Speaker 1: some psychotic reactions. They were phrased as like disassociation. There
Speaker 1: were two psychiatrists, Abram Hoffer and Humphrey Osmond, back in
Speaker 1: the fifties who claimed that adrenal chrome can form in
Speaker 1: the brain and may play a role in some specific
Speaker 1: mental illnesses. And through these studies they found that a
Speaker 1: few fairly common things could actually assist in curing schizophrenia
Speaker 1: by the two things vitamin C and niacin. Interesting, right,
Speaker 1: two things we've heard of before, Two things that exist
Speaker 1: in a lot of energy drinks and scientology treatments. Ye,
Speaker 1: it's also like a popular thing to take if you're
Speaker 1: trying to purge yourself for a drug test. I've heard
Speaker 1: like people take lots of niacin because it makes you
Speaker 1: like sweat out the impire. But it's also kind of
Speaker 1: questionable as to whether that actually works or not. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work anybody who's it doesn't work, find an excuse
Speaker 1: to put off the test, give yourself a couple of days.
Speaker 1: But but the reason why vitamin C in in nice
Speaker 1: and we're important there, or at least the thinking here
Speaker 1: in this research was that they would reduce adrenal chrome
Speaker 1: levels in the subject. Yeah. They called this the adrenal
Speaker 1: chrome hypothesis, which, fun fact, it's also the name of
Speaker 1: the math rock album that we were working on in
Speaker 1: our spare time. The time signatures are crazy. It's it's
Speaker 1: just like three tracks. One is two minutes long, the
Speaker 1: other two or forty two minutes long. Honestly, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's more laborious than it is fun for me to
Speaker 1: try and get some of these time signatures in my drumming.
Speaker 1: Ben and I really, you know, I appreciate like what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do, right man. Yeah, Yeah. The track
Speaker 1: number three was forty two minute ones, which is just
Speaker 1: called time signatures. I think we should explore a different
Speaker 1: direction there, but at least reduce it by like twelve
Speaker 1: minutes or some thing. I don't whoa, hey, whoa, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in that. We workshop it. But
Speaker 1: there's one problem with with this study, even though it's
Speaker 1: it sounds pretty interesting right. Later studies tried to reproduce
Speaker 1: this megavitem and treatment as a way to address schizophrenia,
Speaker 1: and they were not able to confirm any significant benefits,
Speaker 1: any positive effects, making it at best maybe a placebo
Speaker 1: or implying that there was something off about the methodology
Speaker 1: of of the folks behind the hypothesis. Still, it didn't
Speaker 1: matter because at the same time, we have other things
Speaker 1: happening in Western culture, and this is hugely important. We
Speaker 1: have a long, like a long running kind of in
Speaker 1: joke in English literature where in multiple authors are using
Speaker 1: the phrase adrenal chrome to uh to describe some sort
Speaker 1: of some sort of enigmatic drug, like like think about
Speaker 1: how if you're familiar with The King and Yellow, the
Speaker 1: the entirety of the story of the King and Yellow,
Speaker 1: the original anthology is about this play that you can't
Speaker 1: read because it will drive you mad, and so adrenal
Speaker 1: chrome kind of plays that role here In a lot
Speaker 1: of literature, it's described as the the druggist of drugs,
Speaker 1: the most hallucinogenic of hallucinogens, right and all this. Huxley
Speaker 1: Um actually mentioned this in an essay that he wrote
Speaker 1: called The Doors of Perception, which you know, obviously the
Speaker 1: band The Doors took their name from, and he refers
Speaker 1: to it thusly says, then came the discovery that adrena chrome,
Speaker 1: which is a product of the decomposition of adrenaline, can
Speaker 1: produce many of the symptoms observed in mescaline intoxication. But
Speaker 1: adrena chrome probably occur spontaneously in the human body. In
Speaker 1: other words, each one of us may be capable of
Speaker 1: manufacturing a chemical minute doses of which are known to
Speaker 1: cause profound changes in consciousness. Um, does that? Does that
Speaker 1: sound like anything familiar to anyone that we just spoke
Speaker 1: about about the way d M T has described by
Speaker 1: by many folks. Um, and also noticed there may is
Speaker 1: used several times. And yeah, I remember this is Huxley speculating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's not forget I mean, like drugs are a
Speaker 1: huge part of Huxley's body of work in terms was
Speaker 1: it solma I believe in a brave new world that's
Speaker 1: sort of like made everybody was sort of the opposite
Speaker 1: of what a psychedelic does. Psychedelic supposed to open your
Speaker 1: mind and make you think about the greater world, whereas
Speaker 1: solma was literally like an anti psychedelic which sort of
Speaker 1: closed your mind in and made you falsely, you know, complacent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we also have to point out, as far as
Speaker 1: every researcher knows, uh, Altice Huxley himself never took a
Speaker 1: drain of chrome, which is part of why those maize
Speaker 1: are popping up in his essay. Uh. He also in
Speaker 1: this work doesn't explore how someone would obtain this substance.
Speaker 1: He just says, like from that quotation, it's spontaneously produced
Speaker 1: like d MT from the human body. And it just
Speaker 1: one last thing to remember here, Huxley is writing about
Speaker 1: something that is being tested. There is research going into
Speaker 1: this thing. He wrote Doors of Perception in fifty four,
Speaker 1: and it's a known quantity, so he's he's pulling from
Speaker 1: something that is just beginning to be understood, right, And
Speaker 1: then those studies we mentioned before are until the I
Speaker 1: think I think it's late fifties, sixties and seventies where
Speaker 1: those days occurring. So just remember that, like it's an author,
Speaker 1: a brilliant mind grabbing from a piece of science that
Speaker 1: is just beginning right with a lot of unanswered questions.
Speaker 1: And then we fast forward hunter s Thompson Gonzo journalists.
Speaker 1: I think he's a phenomenal writer. He also gives Adreyner
Speaker 1: chrome a little bit of a nod. For many people
Speaker 1: in the West, either the book Fear and Loathing Las
Speaker 1: Vegas or the film is going to be the first
Speaker 1: time they may have heard of this substance, unless they
Speaker 1: were an older person. It certainly was for me, and
Speaker 1: I would love it very much if we could just
Speaker 1: like steal a quick clip from the scene in question.
Speaker 1: That stuff makes pure mescal and seemed like ginger beer
Speaker 1: man A dream of chrome, A dream of chrome. In
Speaker 1: the book, the specific quote from the characters Dr Gonzo
Speaker 1: is there's only one source for this stuff, the adrenaline
Speaker 1: glands from a living human body. It's no good if
Speaker 1: you get it out of a corpse. And then there
Speaker 1: there are more mentions about this throughout literature, both nonfiction
Speaker 1: and fiction. Yep. And just remember there again, I hate
Speaker 1: to be the time bandit over here whatever I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not a time in it, the time master or
Speaker 1: whatever that that was written in n So just leaving
Speaker 1: that out there. We've jumped now towards the towards actually
Speaker 1: the end of those studies that were being done. We mentioned, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're jumping around. I have these like, we've got four examples,
Speaker 1: and I have them kind of jumping around in time
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. Part of it was. Part of
Speaker 1: it was based on how explicit the mentions were. Oh yeah, no, no, totally,
Speaker 1: and that's totally fine. What I'm saying is when we're
Speaker 1: thinking about how these authors are writing from where they're
Speaker 1: pulling it from, it's just interesting to have that in
Speaker 1: the back of your mind. Oh sure, yeah, like in
Speaker 1: uh in Doctor's Sleep. That will be another cultural touch
Speaker 1: point later on in the show. Uh. We know in
Speaker 1: a Clockwork Orange. I believe in the film adaptation as
Speaker 1: well as the novel. Uh, there's there's the popular milk
Speaker 1: based cocktail Molocco Plus, and it has a just like
Speaker 1: a smoothie bar. They've got a couple ladd ons he
Speaker 1: can put in, and one of those is called drenn
Speaker 1: Crome dream Crum. Uh. You pointed that up in and
Speaker 1: that it came flashing back. We got Velasette sent the
Speaker 1: Mesque and drend Crumb absolutely clearly a reference to what
Speaker 1: we're talking about today, and that that book, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever talked about it, but
Speaker 1: I think that's one. When it was originally published, they
Speaker 1: removed the last chapter of the story, which makes it
Speaker 1: completely changes the whole thing anyway anyway, And yeah, whether
Speaker 1: the redemptive the redemption arc essentially right, right. So another
Speaker 1: book from the seventies ninety three called Legal Highs. There's
Speaker 1: a guy named Adam Gottlie. This is nonfiction but very opinionated.
Speaker 1: He describes adrenal chrome as physically stimulating. He says it
Speaker 1: gives you a feeling of well being, and he implies
Speaker 1: there's some disassociation. He says there's a slight reduction in
Speaker 1: thought processes. We don't know if he ever took this
Speaker 1: substance or if it was just based on here say.
Speaker 1: We do want to mention that there are other things
Speaker 1: mentioned in that book, like cat nip. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you try catnip once, never do it again. Never again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it certainly does make the creatures of the feline persuasion
Speaker 1: go nuts. I heard a thing on in PR the
Speaker 1: other day about what it is. It's like almost like Heroin,
Speaker 1: like it affects their receptors in a in a similar way.
Speaker 1: To like opioids, and there's some study about I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I have to look it up after after we get off,
Speaker 1: but uh, there's some new information out there about how
Speaker 1: cat and it affects the brains of cats, and you know,
Speaker 1: like nothing else. Finally, right, people need to know. Now
Speaker 1: you may at this point be saying, Adriana Chrome, this
Speaker 1: sounds interesting. I love the authors you named. It's a
Speaker 1: shame that I'm not hip enough or enough of the
Speaker 1: literati or a scientist to buy it. Well, good news
Speaker 1: kind of. You can literally buy this stuff if you
Speaker 1: want some. You just hop online. I tried it. Unsuccess.
Speaker 1: You tried it to buy it? I tried to buy it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I always try when we do stuff like this, like
Speaker 1: when we did transcranial oh TCDs C S, yep tDCS. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is true. It's it's a chemical compound that is
Speaker 1: created in many bio labs. There's one specifically, I think
Speaker 1: this is the one. I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: when you tried. But there's a place called Santa Cruz Biotechnology.
Speaker 1: Is that is that the place you went to? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's one of the places. It was a bummer. Okay,
Speaker 1: so their prices. I went there because their prices are
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Just for just for fifty five bucks US,
Speaker 1: you can get twenty five milligrams of a dryno chrome. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: it appears they mainly sell to quote unquote labs quote
Speaker 1: unquote qualified medical researchers. I know. Well, it's funny though that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever heard anybody talk about like
Speaker 1: these like research chemicals, right, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: lab created analogs to psychedelics UM and methymphetamine and things
Speaker 1: like that that are legally obtainable if you have the
Speaker 1: right credentials, which you can do, you know, fudge, there
Speaker 1: are ways to get it. I've not say I've known
Speaker 1: any characters that fooled around and anything like that, but
Speaker 1: they are out there. UM and things like to ce
Speaker 1: I and two CEB that are these these you know,
Speaker 1: synthetic analogs to highly powerful psychedelics and not impossible to
Speaker 1: regulate because it's just so easy to make one little analogue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's legally different and not scheduled. Here's a fun fun
Speaker 1: thing that I found here, ben Uh. If you go
Speaker 1: to s CBT dot com, which is where the Santa
Speaker 1: Cruz Biotechnology, that's their site. Uh. And you you know
Speaker 1: you want to add something to your cart like adrenal
Speaker 1: chrome uh down below. That's the thing that says you
Speaker 1: may also like like like a recommendation of Facebook recommendation
Speaker 1: or something down here. You know you've got uh in
Speaker 1: in tacapone h toll capone. Uh you zero five to
Speaker 1: one that sounds interesting and O right six all kinds
Speaker 1: of chemical compounds that you can just add to your
Speaker 1: cart and purchase all the hits. Uh. If you have
Speaker 1: again a quote unquote lab and or quote well whatever,
Speaker 1: I just is standing in the way of progress, folks.
Speaker 1: I my penchant for self experimentation. Aside officially from what
Speaker 1: we understand, adrenal chrome is it has uses, like Matt
Speaker 1: said earlier, but it's not super useful. The main medical
Speaker 1: use you'll see is too slow blood loss. It does
Speaker 1: this by assisting with the synthesis of these fats that
Speaker 1: are called prostagland and that those are the black colliding parts.
Speaker 1: And then it can also help with the inhibition of
Speaker 1: c O MT. That's that's something that deactivates certain neurotransmitters.
Speaker 1: All pretty much like no, we'll say it's not hyperbolic
Speaker 1: all of the online sellers that we found noted that
Speaker 1: their stuff was synthetic. It's lap created. It's identical to
Speaker 1: the stuff that would occur in mammals. Like it's literally
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a hair off, it's literally
Speaker 1: the same stuff. What is there phrasing here? There's a
Speaker 1: there's a f a Q at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: at that scbt dot com and it says is this
Speaker 1: is this the naturally occurring type or synthetic? It says.
Speaker 1: The response is, thank you for your question. Adrenal chrome
Speaker 1: this version is chemically synthesized, meaning created in the lap
Speaker 1: by hues. So there's an other question though, this question
Speaker 1: hopefully everybody saw it coming. What if people are already
Speaker 1: secretly using adrenal chrome for something else. It's weird because, look,
Speaker 1: we had that relatively dry, important and factual explanation of
Speaker 1: adrena chrome. But when you look at literally the works
Speaker 1: of literature versus the works of science, it almost seems
Speaker 1: like they're talking about two altogether different substances. So is
Speaker 1: the stuff being sold online the same stuff mentioned in
Speaker 1: these works of fiction? A lot of people and I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people, guys, uh will tell you
Speaker 1: this is not the case. YouTuber Liz Croaken is someone
Speaker 1: that you can look up if you want to dive
Speaker 1: deeper into this. But the question is this, what if
Speaker 1: in opulent mansions, secret compounds, and hidden bunkers all across
Speaker 1: the planet, shadowy members of the business community, celebrities, politicians,
Speaker 1: decayed aristocrats more are all secretly partying with adrenal chrome
Speaker 1: And if so, where do they get it? Well, answer
Speaker 1: this question. After a word from our sponsors, here's where
Speaker 1: it gets pretty all right, everyone, this is a big
Speaker 1: one we're jumping into. We're this is a dive like
Speaker 1: swan swan like dive directly into this. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Good form, Matt, good form? Oh? Thanks? Okay. So here
Speaker 1: is the idea that you will find spread all across
Speaker 1: social media and from YouTube to TikTok to you know, Facebook,
Speaker 1: all over the place. This is the this is the
Speaker 1: tail uh that the world's upper class, the elite, that
Speaker 1: that point one percent of the point one percent uh,
Speaker 1: they are using adrenal chrome. This is the this is
Speaker 1: the story that's told instead of you know, this weird
Speaker 1: compound that can be used for a couple of things.
Speaker 1: This thing is some kind of drug that is like
Speaker 1: the one that's described by these other authors, but it's
Speaker 1: also got something else. Uh, there's there's something else to
Speaker 1: it that has to do with staying younger, being um like,
Speaker 1: there's a vitality giving aspect to it. The biggest thing
Speaker 1: here is that you can't get adrenal chrome, the true kind,
Speaker 1: from you know, some lab that's creating it synthetically. You
Speaker 1: have to get this stuff from a young person usually,
Speaker 1: or or a mammal that's close to humans, like a pig. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta get a fresh baked during Illuminati inspired and
Speaker 1: or Satanic rituals or you know for some people in
Speaker 1: that community that's a six and one hand half a
Speaker 1: dozen in the other. But during these rituals, alleged these
Speaker 1: adrenal chrome addicts uh subject a person or multiple people
Speaker 1: to uh severe levels of trauma and torture, and this
Speaker 1: is to force their adrenal glands to produce what will
Speaker 1: become the adrenal chrome we we should mention like it's
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a highly addictive psychedelic, which is
Speaker 1: weird because we don't know anywhere in scientific literature. Another
Speaker 1: example of a highly addictive psychedelic there aren't people out
Speaker 1: on the streets like slapping the inside of their elbow
Speaker 1: because they need their LSD injection, right. It just they
Speaker 1: don't work that way mechanically or chemically. I should say.
Speaker 1: It makes me think of like the idea of um
Speaker 1: drinking somebody's fear. I don't know if you remember the
Speaker 1: episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark with the
Speaker 1: creepy doctor character with the beard. I think his name
Speaker 1: was Zar do are Dough or something like that, and
Speaker 1: he has a little cafe on the woods and he
Speaker 1: has the best soup in town. And spoiler alert, Are
Speaker 1: You Afraid of the Dark? Turns out it's made by
Speaker 1: siphoning people's fear and and and and and creating a
Speaker 1: very potent liquor that he then like does a little
Speaker 1: drop of and everyone just loves the soup. And we
Speaker 1: can keep making references like this because I I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about Monsters, Inc. That I've recently watched, because I've got
Speaker 1: a five year old where where fear is the power
Speaker 1: the power source for an entire world or realm? I
Speaker 1: guess sure, yeah? And the and fear is the fear
Speaker 1: is the bread and butter of it were also known
Speaker 1: as Penny Wise and the Stephen King novel. I mean
Speaker 1: and in the military industrial complex. Okay, right, I think
Speaker 1: it's a common Um, it's a common trope because it's
Speaker 1: a great piece of a story. So the problem is
Speaker 1: the people they're torturing allegedly are children because according to
Speaker 1: the elites who are into this, uh, they're they're consider
Speaker 1: capable of producing more pure high potency adrena chrome. So
Speaker 1: for people who believe this theory, uh, this is an
Speaker 1: explanation for disappearances of children around the world, as well
Speaker 1: as sex trafficking rings. They're also not They're not just
Speaker 1: accused of harvesting adrenal glands or harvesting children for adrina chrome.
Speaker 1: They're also accused of taking their blood to uh to
Speaker 1: elongate their own lives and harvesting organs of course, But
Speaker 1: who are these elites. When we say elites, all people's
Speaker 1: elites are not the same, right, Like we can agree
Speaker 1: maybe the pope and uh some members of royalty, but
Speaker 1: not all are elites. But who else? Well, uh, many
Speaker 1: of the folks that you hear lumped in with a
Speaker 1: lot of these q and on kind of conspiracies. Um
Speaker 1: that are you know, allegedly eating babies and hearing their
Speaker 1: faces as masks and doing satanic rituals um involving cannibalism
Speaker 1: and pedophilia. Folks like Bill and Hillary Clinton. Uh podcast cohorts.
Speaker 1: Actually well yeah, well it's interesting. Right. Let's leave that
Speaker 1: there for a moment, because in a in a moment
Speaker 1: of full disclosure to everyone, as as Noel said, both
Speaker 1: Bill and Hillary have podcasts on our network that I
Speaker 1: believe have both been announced. I know Hillary's is live,
Speaker 1: but Bills went live yesterday. See, so we and we're
Speaker 1: doing this episode right now. I'll tell you about this
Speaker 1: stuff with these people who are considered the nefarious ones
Speaker 1: in this theory. Uh. And at the same time this show,
Speaker 1: the three of us have made episodes specifically on Bill
Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton before where we've talked about stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: So just you know, put that out there in case
Speaker 1: anybody wants to comment. On the one hand, it's full disclosure,
Speaker 1: but on the other hand, it's just it's fast. It's
Speaker 1: a fascinating place to find oneself. Yeah. I think the
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton Show is in season two. I want to say,
Speaker 1: is that correct? Heading that way? Yes, it's headed that ways.
Speaker 1: It's like I think the season one just wrapped. Ah,
Speaker 1: there is so this list of celebrities also includes people
Speaker 1: like Nicolas Cage, Johnny Depp, Jim Carrey, Ellen degenerous for
Speaker 1: some reason, uh, Barack Obama. When the only the only
Speaker 1: thing I noticed on this that seems that seems like
Speaker 1: a commonality other than wealth is that generally the politicians
Speaker 1: accused of doing this are going to be what we
Speaker 1: would call on the left side of politics. Right. Did
Speaker 1: you guys see any right wing folks excuse to this? No, generally,
Speaker 1: That's that's the way it is. Because again, this everything
Speaker 1: we're talking about here spawns almost directly from Pizza Gate
Speaker 1: and the Hillary Clinton email scandal and like connecting the
Speaker 1: several other things you know together, where the adrenal chrome
Speaker 1: conspiracy is kind of like a child of some of those,
Speaker 1: and I would argue that goes even further back than that.
Speaker 1: In this conspiracy lore, we see we see the echoes,
Speaker 1: the ripple effects of things like the old blood libel
Speaker 1: accusations that were used we'll talk about it later in
Speaker 1: the show, that we're used to oppress or justify the
Speaker 1: oppression uh, and violence against minorities, and you know, the
Speaker 1: the elite are a type of minority. They're just very
Speaker 1: privileged minority. But then also again, what's weird about this
Speaker 1: list is it feels so arbitrary. It feels like you
Speaker 1: could just be picking picking people at random who tend
Speaker 1: to be in the news pretty often, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Uh, the for people who believe this story,
Speaker 1: the one of the big things is that the adrenal
Speaker 1: chrome addict and will slow signs of aging. Saved four
Speaker 1: and I hadn't heard about this, so we started doing research.
Speaker 1: Save for apparently bruising that appears around the left eye,
Speaker 1: specifically after prolonged use, and you know where that comes from, right,
Speaker 1: injecting it into the eye. No, the there's another conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory about an initiation ritual dealing with bruising around generally
Speaker 1: the left eye that has occurred with many again elite
Speaker 1: left leaning politicians and public figures. What was going on
Speaker 1: with Mitch McConnell and all his bruising that kind of
Speaker 1: came and went for that little period. Well, the story
Speaker 1: is it's it's uh speculated to be a medical condition
Speaker 1: that it got over. But when he was asked about it,
Speaker 1: he said his health was just fine and declined to
Speaker 1: explain any photos show it his bruised hands. So not
Speaker 1: explaining it, which I totally understand because you're a politician
Speaker 1: in this situation. But not explaining it is just feeding treats,
Speaker 1: you know, to the conspiracy trick of treaters at this point.
Speaker 1: And and the good stuff too, not that not that
Speaker 1: orange and black waxy taffy crap? What is that? Are
Speaker 1: you talking? Oh, God, like candy corn or the little
Speaker 1: weird pumpkins that just tastes like sugary plastic. Yeah, B
Speaker 1: level Halloween candy, not notre ago? What a what a
Speaker 1: specific insult you, sir? The B level Halloween candy of
Speaker 1: our friendship Halloween bag. So uh so you're right, Um,
Speaker 1: we we've seen this. One thing I think is important
Speaker 1: for us to note here is that a lot of
Speaker 1: times when you hear things like this described, you'll see
Speaker 1: this in YouTube videos about people being in hip hop
Speaker 1: and the illuminati. What what you're seeing the evidence presented
Speaker 1: is someone's interpretation of an image, right, like Jeez, he
Speaker 1: holds his hand in a specific way in a music video.
Speaker 1: This is a dog whistled to the illuminati, says the
Speaker 1: true believer, and and I would argue, there's there's something
Speaker 1: similar going on here. But the weird thing is this addiction,
Speaker 1: if it's an addictive substance, is said to be crippling.
Speaker 1: Like the withdrawal symptoms, according to the believers, are way
Speaker 1: more intense than things like meth amphetamine or crack cocaine. Like,
Speaker 1: it seems like it would be tough to hold down
Speaker 1: a functional job if you were an adrenda chroma addict, right,
Speaker 1: doesn't It seem like that would be the case unless
Speaker 1: you had just a steady supply and you were like
Speaker 1: the william S Burrows of adrenna chrome and could just
Speaker 1: you know, get your fix readily until you you know,
Speaker 1: wither away just from like old age, like he seemed
Speaker 1: to have done. Um. It's fascinating that, you know. It
Speaker 1: makes me think of like the best fictional trope I
Speaker 1: think for drug addicts is the vampire, because the vampire
Speaker 1: needs that ready supply of blood. If they don't have it,
Speaker 1: they start to waste away and get all pale and fatigued,
Speaker 1: and they can't, you know, Like, I think that's the
Speaker 1: best stand in for any kind of addiction. And again,
Speaker 1: blood libel explanation coming up very very shortly here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely. This is the kind of thing that if
Speaker 1: you were to write it as a fictional story, this
Speaker 1: would be a great reason for anyone who needs a
Speaker 1: g adrenal chrome to go to any length, great lengths
Speaker 1: to get another hit, right, because maybe in this narrative,
Speaker 1: it maybe that the withdrawal symptoms for the substance are fatal,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's something that can really happen with
Speaker 1: some substances. Uh, this this is a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: but it goes further. How far well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsor, We're b okay. So,
Speaker 1: as we said earlier, this does tie into things like
Speaker 1: the q and On dis info campaign as well as
Speaker 1: the the wide panopoly of COVID slash Bill Gates theories.
Speaker 1: According to one line of thought, and I was scouting
Speaker 1: for like the most out there ones. One line of
Speaker 1: thought says, okay, COVID was created by Bill Gates and
Speaker 1: the rest of the illuminati as either what a way
Speaker 1: to implant people with microchips, which is pretty easy disapproved,
Speaker 1: or as a way to create a false flag to
Speaker 1: lock down the country, to do raids, black bag people, uh,
Speaker 1: execute military operations and have it all passed under the
Speaker 1: radar um. And then White Hats, you know, like the
Speaker 1: hacker White Hats uh of Death con fame, who are
Speaker 1: somehow embedded inside of this system but working against it,
Speaker 1: managed to throw a banner into the machinery. They managed
Speaker 1: to throw some monkey wrenches in a really weird like
Speaker 1: it would be a good movie, That's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: It would be an interesting dystopian sci fi movie. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's the YouTuber that we mentioned earlier, Corkin. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a quote from her ready. Uh, they tainted
Speaker 1: the elite's adrenal chrome supply with the coronavirus, and that's
Speaker 1: why so many members of the elite are getting the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: So their supply like they have a communal supply, like
Speaker 1: a giant trough of the stuff for a water tower, secretly,
Speaker 1: you know, secreted away in some underground cave or bunker.
Speaker 1: And how long does it keep? I thought you had
Speaker 1: to create harvester and then harvest it, right. I thought
Speaker 1: it had a very short shelf life. But but still,
Speaker 1: what's the cannon been? What's the canon? A? What's the cannon? Right?
Speaker 1: Is nothing sacred. Uh. So this some people have just
Speaker 1: heard about this, maybe in twenty nineteen or twenty or something,
Speaker 1: but as we've established, this has been around for a while. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you may have seen if you if you're a
Speaker 1: c Span addict instead of an Adrenna chromaddict, you may
Speaker 1: have seen one of the most high high profile examples
Speaker 1: of this stuff getting mentioned. CEO of Google was talking
Speaker 1: with the House Judiciary Committee in US House Judiciary Committee,
Speaker 1: and so when there asked him about a conspiracy called
Speaker 1: frazzled Drip, which I had I had not heard of.
Speaker 1: Fun fun to say, but when you kind of describe
Speaker 1: what it is, it makes you throw up in your
Speaker 1: mouth a little bit. The word takes on a whole
Speaker 1: new meaning. It reminds me of something like you might,
Speaker 1: like refer to a really gross Internet phenomenon by a
Speaker 1: seemingly innocuous word, but then when you look it up,
Speaker 1: it gives you way more than you signed up for,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like goatsy, do not look
Speaker 1: that up? Do not look that up? Did you guys
Speaker 1: actually look at the Google trending for this, like the
Speaker 1: actual graph. I pulled it up and in program thing
Speaker 1: where it like shows the prevalence of searches. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And it's it's weird because they're not giving you actual
Speaker 1: data here. They're not telling you how many thousand or
Speaker 1: million times a term was searched, but they are showing
Speaker 1: you a score of zero to one hundred as far
Speaker 1: as it's popularity as a term. And right there in
Speaker 1: March of twenty note February, right, yeah, March it has
Speaker 1: a score of two. So that's from March one to
Speaker 1: March seven. Then you jump over to March through the
Speaker 1: twenty one it has a score of one hundred, as in,
Speaker 1: like this thing is hot fire to be searched for. Well, also,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people digging into these kind
Speaker 1: of beliefs because they were restricted at home, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They were there are normal routines were
Speaker 1: knocked as you but uh frazzledrip. Yeah, it's it describes
Speaker 1: a graphic, a gross thing. The idea is that somewhere
Speaker 1: hidden away on Anthony Weiner's laptop, there is a top
Speaker 1: secret video that depicts that depicts Hillary Clinton, former Secretary
Speaker 1: of State, Hillary Clinton, and an aid performing a quote
Speaker 1: satanic sacrifice in which they slurp a child's blood while
Speaker 1: wearing mask carved from the skin of the child's face.
Speaker 1: This is this was two people believe this. This was
Speaker 1: going to be smoking gun proof of an adrenal chrome harvest.
Speaker 1: I just want to note, at the time of this recording,
Speaker 1: no tape like that has material, and it is really
Speaker 1: quickly to uh. The aid in question was Huma Aberdeen,
Speaker 1: who was the wife of Anthony Weiner and he and
Speaker 1: who he cheated on, uh with you know his whoever
Speaker 1: he did when he said all the you know Weener picks. Um.
Speaker 1: So that was a big thing in the news at
Speaker 1: the time that he had this compromise this you know,
Speaker 1: this laptop with all of those types of images on it,
Speaker 1: but also with theoretically or allegedly compromise on other folks. Uh.
Speaker 1: So he's like blackmail essentially. The story. Come on, if
Speaker 1: this tape existed, I just we we would have a
Speaker 1: screen grab. We would It doesn't exist. There's no there's
Speaker 1: not not a chance. There are many alleged screen grabs
Speaker 1: of that moment of that thing that you can find online.
Speaker 1: I would say I've gone through many of them personally,
Speaker 1: and there's no identify there's no way to identify the
Speaker 1: people that are in these alleged images, and they also
Speaker 1: appear to be doctored images of something completely innocuous that
Speaker 1: you can also find online. I would also say there
Speaker 1: are many depictions of these images that you can make
Speaker 1: at home, which is what a ton of people did.
Speaker 1: So the shout out the photoshop is all I'm saying there. Um,
Speaker 1: So these claims, that's a lot. The idea here is
Speaker 1: interesting because there's a bit of double thing involved if
Speaker 1: we walk through it. The idea that adrenna chrome is
Speaker 1: both a debilitating addictive drug and a miraculous life extending
Speaker 1: serum that it can it can kill you through the
Speaker 1: you know, the sheer force of the withdrawal symptoms, but
Speaker 1: then it can also keep you alive longer than the
Speaker 1: average bear. Uh. And then the idea that it only
Speaker 1: really does the trick when it's harvested from human bodies.
Speaker 1: You can't call it adrenna chrome unless it's withdrawn from
Speaker 1: the adrenna chrome region of the human Otherwise it's just
Speaker 1: sparkling fear or whatever. You know. Uh. This this book
Speaker 1: um by Hunter S. Thompson Fear Loathing in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Because of that line and that's pretty small line about
Speaker 1: the panel glands. People were convinced that's where this stuff
Speaker 1: was produced. But the ant there's like way less cool
Speaker 1: and third eye oriented. Uh, adrenal chrome is generated by
Speaker 1: your adrenal gland that sets on top of the renal glands.
Speaker 1: You might recognize the renal glands by their street name,
Speaker 1: the kidneys. Yeah, that's that's that's down here. That's low.
Speaker 1: That's low, very low in the body, different place. Um,
Speaker 1: it's really it's really interesting just that a fiction writer
Speaker 1: can you know, plant a concept of something in our
Speaker 1: heads or or their readers, I guess, or and just
Speaker 1: anyone who consumes their material, no matter what medium it
Speaker 1: finds itself in, they can convince them of a complete untruth.
Speaker 1: Especially and it's the worst when it's when it's like
Speaker 1: actual science or actual science, and we talked about on
Speaker 1: the show all the time. That's where there's almost always
Speaker 1: that grain of sand or around which the pearl is formed.
Speaker 1: So it's just I don't know, it seems dangerous. Way
Speaker 1: tell the truth, but tell its slant, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So okay, but let's dig into this. So
Speaker 1: let's let's do some if thens. So all of the
Speaker 1: official science so far argues that lab synthesized and naturally
Speaker 1: produced adrenal chrome uh, those versions are kind of indistinguishable
Speaker 1: in terms of their effects. They do the same things.
Speaker 1: It's chemically the same stuff. But let's say it's it
Speaker 1: wasn't Let's say it's somehow different that you know, it
Speaker 1: somehow matters if you get it from a live human being,
Speaker 1: and then you will experience a different effect. Let's think
Speaker 1: of it like, let's say it's the way that a
Speaker 1: the diet of a bee hive will influence the taste
Speaker 1: of honey, or the kind of uh plant matter of
Speaker 1: cow eats will influence the taste of the milk. Let's say,
Speaker 1: for some reasons like that, how would you get the
Speaker 1: adrenna chrome out? We found a really interesting answer from
Speaker 1: an expert, by the way, and um, because I was curious.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, is it Is it something
Speaker 1: where there's like a little metal straw you stick in
Speaker 1: someone's neck, or do you have like a pump or
Speaker 1: what what do you do? Well? According to Dr Steve Middleman,
Speaker 1: who is a u c l A expert in pediatric
Speaker 1: indo chronology, UM, he says he's never seen evidence of
Speaker 1: this practice. But if it were to occur, in the
Speaker 1: practice being extracting you know this this substance, if it
Speaker 1: were to occur, he would kind of be the expert
Speaker 1: in how to do it correctly. Uh. And according to him,
Speaker 1: it would take a lot of doing. First, you'd have
Speaker 1: to do surgery. Like you can't just suck it out,
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, Ben, like with a straw.
Speaker 1: Remember those orange juice commercials when they stick the straw
Speaker 1: straight into the orange. I always thought that seemed really satisfying,
Speaker 1: but wouldn't work. You just get you get a straw
Speaker 1: full of pulp and no juice. Um. So that would
Speaker 1: be kind of the equivalent here on a really rudimentary
Speaker 1: level um surgery. A second, you would have to run
Speaker 1: through a series of really complex purification steps to actually
Speaker 1: separate out the adrena chrome from all the other juice. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then even if you had all that and all
Speaker 1: the time in the world and the equipment and the expertise, UM,
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't get any more than like half a
Speaker 1: milligram per child. So I think we would have a
Speaker 1: serious spike in missing children uh cases if this were
Speaker 1: actually happening a lot of milk carton kids would be
Speaker 1: popping up. UM, don't know that I've seen that in
Speaker 1: the news. Well, hey, do you wanna you wanna talk
Speaker 1: about that really quickly? We got some stats here from
Speaker 1: the FBI twenty nineteen n C I see missing person
Speaker 1: in Unidentified Persons statistics. We've talked about this on many shows,
Speaker 1: but this I think it's fascinting. I'm gonna hit you
Speaker 1: with a bunch of stats just so you get an
Speaker 1: understanding of this really quickly. So here we go of
Speaker 1: the six hundred and nine thousand, two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: five records entered in uh, let's see this thing called
Speaker 1: the missing Person's Circumstances field within. You know, a report
Speaker 1: that's generated was utilized two hundred and ninety four thousand times,
Speaker 1: which is about forty percent when it was utilized. UM,
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty thousand of those were coded as runaways,
Speaker 1: two thousand, four hundred as abducted by non custodial parents,
Speaker 1: and three hundred twenty two as abducted by stranger. Okay,
Speaker 1: so how many metograms are we talking about here, Matt? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that that wouldn't be many right, rebel, Who
Speaker 1: knows because that's just the official Well, yeah you would,
Speaker 1: but that's the official reporting. And who knows how many
Speaker 1: of those abducted by strangers would have anything to do
Speaker 1: with that? You couldn't, you know, how could you ever
Speaker 1: quantify that? Um? Also, yeah, how many of those runaways
Speaker 1: then would fit in there? Uh, these stats aren't really helpful.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to show that there were around three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand missing persons in well that we know that
Speaker 1: we and again I'm not trying to be a jerk here,
Speaker 1: but like, how many milligrams of this stuff would it
Speaker 1: take theoretically to you know, to experience the effects? Uncertain?
Speaker 1: There hasn't been. Ah, the people believe that this is happening.
Speaker 1: I haven't had specificity in that regard. Um we do.
Speaker 1: I do. I did find records of people who said
Speaker 1: that they took adrenal chrome and the people who said,
Speaker 1: you know, I did it. I have firsthand experience with it.
Speaker 1: The reports are kind of hilarious in like it's funny
Speaker 1: because you're okay kind of way, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: They're like, I felt like crap, these terrible headaches I
Speaker 1: it and hallucinate anything unless I was hallucinating the headaches,
Speaker 1: which I was not. They seemed very unimpressed with their
Speaker 1: dreader chrome experience. But look, if you're not getting enough,
Speaker 1: if you're not getting your milligrams for whatever dose you
Speaker 1: need from humans, then why would you not get something
Speaker 1: like the adrenal glands of a cow available at your
Speaker 1: local butcher's store? You know what I mean? Even a
Speaker 1: grocery store can probably order them for you if you
Speaker 1: ask in advance. Man, that's just way less evil, wouldn't
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have the same ummmy of of of the
Speaker 1: avoid you know. Yeah, it's just sparkling wine, not champagne, right,
Speaker 1: fish row not caviare uh? Can I? Um no? Maybe not.
Speaker 1: I was going to read something from one of these
Speaker 1: websites where we found this, you know, conspiracy theory to
Speaker 1: be out there. I don't want to go to political
Speaker 1: with it, but I just I want to read the
Speaker 1: note that's at the very bottom. This is a website
Speaker 1: that is describing what we've told you here about the
Speaker 1: theory around adrenal chrome and the elites and taking it
Speaker 1: from children. This is the disclaimer at the end says,
Speaker 1: please note the author of this article would like to
Speaker 1: remain anonymous for she escaped one of these rituals many
Speaker 1: years ago. But after thorough investigating, we find these statements
Speaker 1: to be very much true in all caps. Um. I
Speaker 1: just want to put that out there before we talk
Speaker 1: about the next thing. I think that's the one I sent.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a fun one. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so really quickly, and I'm sorry I'm hung up on this,
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to point out that LSD and
Speaker 1: highly potent psychedelics are usually measured in micrograms, not milligrams.
Speaker 1: So one microgram is point o one milligrams, So presumably
Speaker 1: a milligram of this stuff, if it's as potent as
Speaker 1: LSD or some of these other substances, would pack quite
Speaker 1: a Whileop. There we go. Yeah, well, let's let's look
Speaker 1: at proof. If proof exists. Uh, it's possible that there's
Speaker 1: a cultural exchange that took place, which I think is
Speaker 1: really interesting. Uh. Adrenna chrome's current conspiratorial status could have
Speaker 1: come from hippies and beat nicks. I mean, it's an
Speaker 1: objectively cool sounding word. It also has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the element chromium, by the way. Uh, people may
Speaker 1: have just been using that as like a cool code
Speaker 1: word for LSD, and then the actual real adrenna chrome
Speaker 1: got wrapped up in the narrative. I mean, Hunry s. Thompson,
Speaker 1: even publicly multiple times, is like, look, I made up
Speaker 1: the effects of that adrenda chrome drug. I just really
Speaker 1: needed a drug that was beyond the pale. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was writing fiction and in the film and the book,
Speaker 1: I mean, the effects are really just like a super
Speaker 1: super potent dose of LSD. Yeah, and I would pause it.
Speaker 1: It sounds more like d m T, like the actual
Speaker 1: thing of d MT that Hunters Thompson was writing about.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, if you're writing fiction, you're always
Speaker 1: looking for cool words literally, you know. Uh So there's
Speaker 1: a bigger picture here. There may there may be, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think we can trace it back
Speaker 1: to just one thing. But we see multiple threads converging,
Speaker 1: and we see this story kind of weaving in and
Speaker 1: out of them. This is not a new story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes back to pizza Gate. It's a repackaged version
Speaker 1: of these older accusations in the past. As we said,
Speaker 1: we're used to rile up communities to take action against
Speaker 1: persecuted minorities. One thing that's different in this case is
Speaker 1: that the subjects of the of the conspiracy theory are
Speaker 1: some of the world's most powerful people. They're the opposite
Speaker 1: of persecuted. But the tropes and the folklore are largely
Speaker 1: familiar and unchanged. One thing has change age, though it's
Speaker 1: a very important thing. The technology at play. Well. As
Speaker 1: we said, money plus age equals putting money that you
Speaker 1: have into your research into figuring out how to not
Speaker 1: die or make life a little better in your seventies
Speaker 1: or sixties or however old and wealthy you are. Because
Speaker 1: there are researchers all around the world that are getting
Speaker 1: money startups that are you know, coming through adventure capital
Speaker 1: money to find ways to extend the human lifespan and
Speaker 1: to make it just a better experience to be older. Um.
Speaker 1: We we talked about this in an older episode about months.
Speaker 1: I think we called it modern vampiresm or something around that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we talked about this very real thing that got
Speaker 1: pretty popular in twenty in a few years around that span,
Speaker 1: where people were talking about specifically taking young blood from
Speaker 1: a subjective years old and doing transfusions with an older
Speaker 1: person and then somehow that older person getting all kinds
Speaker 1: of benefits, like a fountain of youth kind of situation
Speaker 1: through sharing blood with a younger person. And this is
Speaker 1: a thing called parabiosis. It's fascinating. The concept has been
Speaker 1: around since the eighteen hundreds, this technique where you take
Speaker 1: an old subject a young subject and then connect the
Speaker 1: two circulatory systems together. Um, yeah, it's real, it's real, right,
Speaker 1: mat you said since the eighteen hundreds, Yes, would they
Speaker 1: have known about blood type in those days? Ha ha, Well,
Speaker 1: this is a really important thing. In many of these studies.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with inbred subjects, subjects that are ridiculously close genetically.
Speaker 1: Um so, then sharing blood for those two subjects wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a big deal. However, if you tried it with
Speaker 1: just some random twenty year old and whoever you are,
Speaker 1: the odds it's not gonna work out so great. We'd
Speaker 1: have to there's there's a purification process. You need the
Speaker 1: plasma right now, just the straight up blood. Also, we
Speaker 1: know the the FDA originally said to two of the
Speaker 1: startups who are selling this kind of this idea, we
Speaker 1: also called longer life through younger blood. Uh. The FDA
Speaker 1: was quick to say they had not found any efficacy
Speaker 1: to these claims. But you can't depending it's all about
Speaker 1: what they say this is doing, because ultimately, if two
Speaker 1: people can sensually decide they're gonna give each other they're
Speaker 1: gonna give each other blood, then there's not a law
Speaker 1: that can really stop them. It's still your blood, which
Speaker 1: is one of the weirdest things I've said on air.
Speaker 1: But but there's ongoing research into this. You know, just
Speaker 1: last year, University of California, Berkeley uh decided this practice
Speaker 1: was decided this practice was led it enough in mice
Speaker 1: that there it's worth finalizing clinical trials for humans. So
Speaker 1: they're going to be doing this study on this. It's
Speaker 1: not quite all the same stuff. They're diluting blood as well.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty interesting. We'll see, we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1: I do want to point something out here really quickly,
Speaker 1: and there were successful parabiosis studies in mice in gosh,
Speaker 1: I want to say, twenty two five maybe by this
Speaker 1: this couple at u C. Berkeley, and one of the
Speaker 1: main takeaways from their studies was that, yes, the older
Speaker 1: mouse who is sharing that circulatory system with the younger
Speaker 1: mouse does improve in a lot of ways, the health
Speaker 1: of the older mouse gets a lot better, and that
Speaker 1: was kind of paraded around on the news as oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is a thing, this could be a thing.
Speaker 1: We can fix Bolzheimer's and getting old. What the reporting
Speaker 1: didn't look at is that the younger mouse in that scenario,
Speaker 1: the health deteriorated very quickly, rapidly and terribly. And that's
Speaker 1: that's in the case where they're so together, not where
Speaker 1: there's just a one way donation route. And you know,
Speaker 1: we're again so many of these things tie into like
Speaker 1: vampirism and pop culture and you know, the some sort
Speaker 1: of malevolent sorcerer sucking the life force out of you know,
Speaker 1: some unsuspecting hero of the story. And what always happened
Speaker 1: in those situations, the person who's having their life force
Speaker 1: sucked out withers away and becomes old and starts to
Speaker 1: like atrophy before your very eyes. You know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: stuff when you see you know, some of these like
Speaker 1: fantasy kind of tropes actually play out in real life experiments.
Speaker 1: And there's no at this point, there's no confirmed cases
Speaker 1: of human experimentation ongoing like with modern technology in this field. Uh,
Speaker 1: just to let you know, because I know a lot
Speaker 1: of us might have been thinking about human sent up
Speaker 1: no judgment, but just hasn't to our knowledge, happened currently.
Speaker 1: Did somebody did somebody go matt scientists or serial killer
Speaker 1: and so people together in the past. Yeah, definitely, there
Speaker 1: are billions of people who have lived and died. Someone
Speaker 1: got weird with it, certainly, but in terms of an
Speaker 1: actual medical study doing this at this point, uh, it's
Speaker 1: not happening. There are other things. There are other anti
Speaker 1: aging things that are very real and they're on the horizon.
Speaker 1: Substances like nico tenamide rabbicide, which is the active ingredient
Speaker 1: in a pill made by an outfit called Elysium, and
Speaker 1: then another thing called nicotinamide mon nucleotide. This is also
Speaker 1: an m N They've been shown to improve the ability
Speaker 1: of cells in mice to repair DNA damage caused by
Speaker 1: radiation exposure and wait for old age. So this is
Speaker 1: this is a like a pill you could take, a
Speaker 1: treatment you could apply that could not only help you
Speaker 1: extend the healthy part of your life span, but it
Speaker 1: could also repair damage that had been done to you
Speaker 1: a k a. A new astronaut pill. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking that seems like the immediate application. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: that would be great. And there's also I think it's gosh,
Speaker 1: six years ago maybe, but there was a TED talk
Speaker 1: given by this guy named Tony oh lord, what was
Speaker 1: his name, Tony Weiss Kay where he was performing clinical
Speaker 1: studies on humans at with with patients who had mild
Speaker 1: to moderate Alzheimer's disease or effects of of that disease,
Speaker 1: and they were just taking I think it was twenty
Speaker 1: year old donors who are volunteers, taking their blood and
Speaker 1: then uh, you know, doing I guess low level transfused
Speaker 1: with them. Um, you can watch that Ted talk to
Speaker 1: get full info there. It's a good it's a good watch.
Speaker 1: And I just can't we can't talk about parabiosis without
Speaker 1: this image of Monty Burns jumping into my head and
Speaker 1: he's like steepling his fingers and he's going like, yes,
Speaker 1: the blood, that's the last thing those children have or something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it seems very culture
Speaker 1: clash Boomer v Millennial or gen z. Now, the blood
Speaker 1: the last thing those wretched millennials have stolen through me
Speaker 1: from me by possessing it will work on the script.
Speaker 1: But there you have it, folks. The story of adrenal
Speaker 1: chrome is the story of a real substance given a
Speaker 1: very first a badass and then a very sinister rep
Speaker 1: by various works of fiction and works of conjecture, and
Speaker 1: then those were later mistaken for fat whereas Rudgard Kipling
Speaker 1: would say in his famous poem, if twisted knaves to
Speaker 1: make a trap for fools. But more importantly, that does
Speaker 1: not mean elite anti aging treatments don't exist. That does
Speaker 1: not mean they are not on the way. They very
Speaker 1: much are. Uh. The first person who is functionally immortal
Speaker 1: may have already been born. But it's a question what
Speaker 1: do you think would happen if a pill or some
Speaker 1: ongoing life extending technology or treatment existed. Do you think
Speaker 1: the average person would have access to it? Do you
Speaker 1: think they know about it? Well, it's it's the same
Speaker 1: question of this COVID vaccine, you know, and like who
Speaker 1: gets that first? It's all about scarcity. Obviously most people
Speaker 1: would want that, right is it going to be too
Speaker 1: expensive for the average of The COVID vaccine is free,
Speaker 1: but we know there are elites that are getting access
Speaker 1: to it through their secret clinics, and they're you know,
Speaker 1: high end healthcare plans, probably isn't following the rules, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's that guy who faked uh an identity? Who's quite
Speaker 1: well off? You faked any to fly to Canada to
Speaker 1: to take vaccines to try to get vaccinated at a
Speaker 1: place that was primarily catering to elderly and immunocompromised residents
Speaker 1: of the First Nations. Like that's that's the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that happens. That's an excellent example. No, all, I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if that's instructive for this. But why,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, why not why not just
Speaker 1: up end the apple cart of society and may and
Speaker 1: and pull like a pull like a Louis pasteur uh
Speaker 1: or a Jenner with the smallpox vaccine and just give
Speaker 1: it to everybody before before anyone can put up gates
Speaker 1: or barriers to access. And then see what the world's
Speaker 1: like in two hundred years, We'll we'll all be tired
Speaker 1: of you, That's what I'm saying, Ben. And let's not forget.
Speaker 1: I mean, do we even have the resources or the
Speaker 1: infrastructure to support enough people living that many people living forever?
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have a support structure it like
Speaker 1: for everyone right now? Yeah, that's it's It's not good, guys.
Speaker 1: We have the potential for that support structure. We just
Speaker 1: have a lot of people arguing about about whether or
Speaker 1: not we like, there is enough food for everybody right now,
Speaker 1: there's enough water. We just have people arguing about whether
Speaker 1: or not people everybody should have or everybody should have food.
Speaker 1: Uh so we're still on some very basic day one questions.
Speaker 1: But I don't know it or not right now. But
Speaker 1: you're making the most serious cringe face. Okay, that was
Speaker 1: just you cringing. It looked like because I'm I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about all kinds of things, especially like what soil is
Speaker 1: actually going to be able to be used, and you know,
Speaker 1: the phosphates. It's all good, We're fine, everything's cool. Everything's
Speaker 1: what about what about this? What if the deal is
Speaker 1: you can get the life extending treatment. Let's say it's
Speaker 1: not immortality. Let's say it gives you five years. You
Speaker 1: can get the life extending treatment, but you also have
Speaker 1: to get sterilized. Oh so like that's the trade off?
Speaker 1: Would that be fair? I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: would do that. I think a lot of people would
Speaker 1: have kids first, and then go get stereo atmatically to
Speaker 1: be some loophole. Does that work out? I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: not over time you have to live. It have to
Speaker 1: be shorter than five years for the man. But but
Speaker 1: let's not forget you could still die in an accident.
Speaker 1: I mean, this wouldn't like, you know, give you a
Speaker 1: complete like pass against death. You just wouldn't die from
Speaker 1: natural causes. Still get hit by a bus. You know.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't make you invisible. I think it comes with
Speaker 1: a safe point. I mean, at that price point, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're going to need at least one safe point
Speaker 1: so you can restore respawn situation. Yeah. That would be
Speaker 1: in the form of a backup of your personality, of
Speaker 1: brain map that exists, a brain brain protein map that
Speaker 1: exists in the cloud or on some probably on some database,
Speaker 1: and a safe somewhere, uh spaceship in the sky called Elysium.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the name of the company that you were
Speaker 1: just talking about, Ben Okay, hand of film. I know
Speaker 1: I know about the films. What I'm saying. Uh Yeah,
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