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Speaker 1: on stuff they don't want you to know? Ben, did
Speaker 1: you see this letter we got from DARPA, A letter
Speaker 1: from Dark Yet It says, where's the rest of the
Speaker 1: DARPA podcast? We paid you two million dollars? What's all
Speaker 1: that dramatic music playing? And welcome back to stuff they
Speaker 1: don't want you to know. This is part two of
Speaker 1: our DARPA episode. Uh, Matt, how are you feeling about this?
Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good. We've looked at a little bit
Speaker 1: of the history. We're gonna get a little deeper now
Speaker 1: in this section. I don't know. I think you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna like it. So let's hop right in. We
Speaker 1: have to admit, man, when we talked about DARPA, there's
Speaker 1: gotta be a lot of stuff that we honestly don't
Speaker 1: know about because because a technological edge, right, dark as
Speaker 1: Mandate requires the technological edge, and a technological edge requires
Speaker 1: secrecy during development, right, And so one theory that we
Speaker 1: hear often on our show is the theory of suppressed technology.
Speaker 1: And and basically the gist is that space age quote
Speaker 1: unquote technology of some sort exists, be it free energy,
Speaker 1: a more efficient aircraft, things like that, but they are
Speaker 1: withheld from the public um because they're useful in military applications. Right, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: as long as as long as only the military has
Speaker 1: access to this equipment. Now, a lot of people would
Speaker 1: just say that's bunk and throw it out entirely, dismiss
Speaker 1: it out of hand. But when we hear stories about
Speaker 1: ARPANET like you just caught us up on, it really
Speaker 1: makes me wonder what's cooking over at DARPA. And also
Speaker 1: how is DARPA related to that national security patent gag
Speaker 1: order thing? Remember that Here's how it works. Uh, it
Speaker 1: is possible for an inventor, Let's say that you met
Speaker 1: um invent something that is just amazing has never happened before.
Speaker 1: Let's say, for some reason, you invent a device that
Speaker 1: can automatically download all information from a computer just by
Speaker 1: walking by. So it has some sort of wireless method
Speaker 1: to just suck out all the information on any computer. Okay,
Speaker 1: highly unlikely that I could do that, but sure, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Hey, believe in yourself, man, and you know
Speaker 1: wishes or horses in this. So hypothetically, again, you file
Speaker 1: a patent for this information. Uh, this patent is denied
Speaker 1: and you are not able to tell anyone about it.
Speaker 1: There's a gag order on both the patent itself, the
Speaker 1: information contains, and any comments you might make about it
Speaker 1: due to national security. So it is actually legal for
Speaker 1: the United States government to suppress technology if they feel
Speaker 1: that this technology will somehow be a threat and the
Speaker 1: information about this is very, very vague, minimal. Well, here
Speaker 1: here's my question. Okay, can they then use that patent
Speaker 1: or the technology outlined in that patent. If they can
Speaker 1: extract they can figure out what that technology is, they
Speaker 1: can use it. Yep, that's fun in the interest of
Speaker 1: national security. Well again, it goes right back to their
Speaker 1: charter right to maintain United States technological superiority over everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh, we can't talk about DARPA unless we talk
Speaker 1: about one of the by far the most prevalent semi
Speaker 1: secret bases or activities in United States. Mad science, It's history.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking I'm talking about HARP. I
Speaker 1: am talking about heart oh Man, the high frequency active
Speaker 1: auroral research program. That name is thrown around just I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, what is it thrown around? Like it's
Speaker 1: it's thrown around like nickels at a nickel party. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yes, it's HARP thrown around like nickels at a
Speaker 1: Nickel party. This is the thing that's allegedly spurned from
Speaker 1: Tesla's research, and it works on the uh, the ion
Speaker 1: a sphere, and you know, they're all kinds of crazy
Speaker 1: alleged stories about what it can or cannot do and
Speaker 1: what it has been used to do. Like, let's say,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to cause an earthquake somewhere, or if
Speaker 1: the United States wanted to cause an earthquake somewhere, people
Speaker 1: will allege that HARP did and they may be caused
Speaker 1: a tsunami. Right, Yeah, we hear, we hear about HARP
Speaker 1: often when people are talking about Nicola Tesla, or when
Speaker 1: people are talking about weaponized weather. HARP is essentially from
Speaker 1: what we we being the public. No, HARP is essentially
Speaker 1: heating the ionosphere. Uh in kind of a let's see
Speaker 1: what happens way according to again the information. Now, anytime
Speaker 1: there's this level of secrecy, there's no end to proliferating rumors.
Speaker 1: And the scariest thing about HARP is that we we
Speaker 1: legitimately do not know what it is doing or the
Speaker 1: extent of what it's doing. Actually, we know exactly what
Speaker 1: it's doing. What is it? At least since May this year,
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. It's been shut down. I'm glad you got
Speaker 1: to it, at least for the interim. It's been shut
Speaker 1: down until they're awaiting another group to come in and
Speaker 1: possibly run it that is not the United States government
Speaker 1: or at least not government funded. Okay, so that is interesting, Hunts.
Speaker 1: It's shut down for a little while and that and
Speaker 1: that's according to HARP Spurium manager dark Dr James Keeney,
Speaker 1: and HARP itself has uh. It might sound unusual that
Speaker 1: such an expensive thing should be suspended for a little
Speaker 1: bit of time, but this brings us back to to circle,
Speaker 1: back to DARPA. This brings us back to one of
Speaker 1: DARPA's primary advantages, what they see as an advantage, which
Speaker 1: is that DARPER Research has the freedom to fail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this in a way gives the researchers and the
Speaker 1: contractors enormous latitude to just try things out. This could
Speaker 1: be seen in examples of the exoskeleton that you know,
Speaker 1: the exo skeleton is one of those things that is
Speaker 1: famously always five years away. Right in five years they
Speaker 1: were saying, uh, in two thousand twelve will have a
Speaker 1: superb exoskeleton, it will be used by senior citizens, will
Speaker 1: be used by soldiers and people who have special needs
Speaker 1: are disabled. Um, and then five years before that it
Speaker 1: was going to be coming out in twelve, and then
Speaker 1: five years before that. Right, this this goes on. But
Speaker 1: despite all of these failures, Um, this is sort of
Speaker 1: a spaghetti at the wall approach. Right, we throw at
Speaker 1: the spaghetti at the wall, we see what sticks. And UM,
Speaker 1: I know that's an overused comparison at times, but it
Speaker 1: really does apply here. And Matt, we've kind of caught
Speaker 1: people up right on what DARPA is. I think, so
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a couple of questions, if
Speaker 1: that's okay. I don't want to put you on the spot.
Speaker 1: I'm on the spot. I don't want to put you
Speaker 1: on the spot, he says, as he does. But the
Speaker 1: question I wanted to ask you is what do you
Speaker 1: think is next for dart Pa. Well, I've been on
Speaker 1: their website, rummaging around looking at things, looking at projects
Speaker 1: and programs, and I guess that's what they're onto now.
Speaker 1: And some of the things are onto now. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna list off a couple of things just so I
Speaker 1: can kind of tell you where I think they're going.
Speaker 1: So one of the things they're looking at is called QUEST.
Speaker 1: It's a program there quantum entanglement Science and Technology. That's
Speaker 1: an actual thing that they're researching. And you know, when
Speaker 1: you hear about quantum entanglement, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: internet videos futurist people talking about it, scientists that want
Speaker 1: to get excited about it because it isn't an incredible
Speaker 1: thing that if we can make it into a usable technology,
Speaker 1: it will speed up all of our processes and quantum
Speaker 1: computers quantum computing exactly. And inside this, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: read this because this is kind of crazy. Fundamental discoveries
Speaker 1: and quantum information science have potential for dramatic impact on
Speaker 1: technologies related to modern military platforms. Okay, so already right there,
Speaker 1: that's a little creepy. Well, no, I cannot decode that,
Speaker 1: m But what the way you can start to decode
Speaker 1: it is if you look at the other programs, Because
Speaker 1: the way I like to think about DARPA is um
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, but like an octopus. Right, the
Speaker 1: DARPA Center, the director, and let's say the actual staff
Speaker 1: of DARPA is kind of the like you said, the
Speaker 1: it's the information head and then it's got all these
Speaker 1: arms of researchers with contracts researching certain topics. So let's
Speaker 1: say quantum entanglement is one arm right on the other
Speaker 1: arm over here, you've got mesodynamic architecture. This is another program. Now,
Speaker 1: this is really interesting to me. All this one is
Speaker 1: looking at spatial and short temporal scales, including new states
Speaker 1: of matter. This is these are the things we're looking
Speaker 1: at and untapped forces. So this is next level stuff here.
Speaker 1: This is states of matter that I guess we don't
Speaker 1: know yet, theoretical theoretical states of matter that currently we
Speaker 1: don't know that exists, and or untapped forces and that
Speaker 1: just untapped forces is so vague, but it's also so
Speaker 1: cool and at the same time, Yeah, it's somewhere between
Speaker 1: a horror movie and a science fiction film, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love that. So so when you
Speaker 1: put those together, talking about quantum entangling, meso dynamic architectures.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just a channel untapped force. So yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it talks about all kinds of things like it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's going to make communication easier, sensing and computation easier.
Speaker 1: Again exploiting mesoscale characteristics. I don't know what the heck
Speaker 1: that means. I'm not intelligent enough to comprehend even what
Speaker 1: that means. I want to go back to the octopus comparison.
Speaker 1: I think that's really good. One of the other primary
Speaker 1: tentacles would be the use of information. How do DARPA
Speaker 1: is very concerned with how we organize, compile, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, position data. Uh, in order to make predictive things,
Speaker 1: I've got to I've got an interesting little tangent and
Speaker 1: you want to hear him absolutely, alright. So one of
Speaker 1: my professors Georgia Tech, where I studied international affairs, he
Speaker 1: worked with he's mad genius Matt and he worked with statistics.
Speaker 1: Now you've heard this story before. He was contracted to
Speaker 1: build a simulation of Afghanistan and it was the idea
Speaker 1: was a real life matrix, just like we were talking
Speaker 1: about with Dick Cheney and desert storm. Uh. The idea
Speaker 1: was to build a model, a virtual model of Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: where all of the variables were so realistic that a
Speaker 1: change in a variable in the computer would create the
Speaker 1: same changes um on the model that would happen in
Speaker 1: the real world. So this, this fidelity um was such that,
Speaker 1: for instance, you could say, well, what if the price
Speaker 1: of gas for the US forces supply lines goes up
Speaker 1: or down two dollars, let's plug that in. And then
Speaker 1: apparently the idea deal was that it would be able
Speaker 1: to predict this stuff. So ultimately we're building a real
Speaker 1: life crystal ball, a real life magic cap ball or
Speaker 1: something like that. And um, I don't know how successful
Speaker 1: or unsuccessful that's been, but it is strange when we
Speaker 1: think that in this country there really are people who
Speaker 1: are pursuing what again you called the closest thing we
Speaker 1: have to a real life fringe division. And it's no
Speaker 1: wonder that it gets used or bandied about in a
Speaker 1: lot of theories or a lot of rumors. The fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is that DARPA is into a lot
Speaker 1: of exotic, new pioneering technological research and oh we frankly,
Speaker 1: we don't know and we won't know everything that's going
Speaker 1: on there, from eliminating sleep for soldiers from one of
Speaker 1: the one of the things that recently popped in the
Speaker 1: news today as you and I are doing this podcast,
Speaker 1: is that DARPA is building an underwater drone base, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: I just look at that kind of stuff and uh,
Speaker 1: it bridges the gap in my head of the little
Speaker 1: kid that wants to understand the unknown or the the
Speaker 1: not understandable, grasping at those big questions, and it really
Speaker 1: is on the front lines doing that. But secretly, it's
Speaker 1: just it reminds me of of so many strange things.
Speaker 1: Just for fans of the TV show Lost, the proposed
Speaker 1: undersea drone carrier that DARPA wants to build is code named,
Speaker 1: wait for it, the Hydra. Huh. I know, not to
Speaker 1: be too lighthearted, but uh, there it is. That's our
Speaker 1: DARPA one oh one. Right, Yeah, anything to add there,
Speaker 1: matt um there. I just want to add. If you
Speaker 1: go to the DARPA website and you're interested in any
Speaker 1: of these programs, maybe I don't know, you just want
Speaker 1: to know more information. You can email a lot of
Speaker 1: these the directors of these programs. They have email addresses
Speaker 1: that you can send them an email and say, hey,
Speaker 1: tell me a little more about this. Yeah, they are
Speaker 1: they are human beings. And uh we have an email
Speaker 1: them yet, but that might be interesting to do so
Speaker 1: huh yeah, absolutely, I really want to call the quantument
Speaker 1: quantum entanglement guys. H and uh if you do send
Speaker 1: an email to the good folks at DARPA, please let
Speaker 1: us know how it goes, so we get keep tabs
Speaker 1: on you. Make sure you don't disappear please. Uh, We're kidding,
Speaker 1: but that that is it. We would like to hear
Speaker 1: what you think now about DARPA. What do you think
Speaker 1: are some of their most interesting projects? What do you
Speaker 1: think of the most interesting rumors about DARPA. Is it
Speaker 1: all alarmism or is it true? Are they suppressing technology?
Speaker 1: And if so what? Uh? We are very interested in
Speaker 1: these questions. We have really stuck to the facts on this,
Speaker 1: just the stuff that's known and established about DARPA. We
Speaker 1: are always ready to get a little weird with it
Speaker 1: and maybe we can return when we hear more about
Speaker 1: our projects or when we want to drill down into
Speaker 1: something really specific. Man. Absolutely, and if you want to
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