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Speaker 1: welcome back to stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1: My name is Matt Frederick. Hey, Matt, I have a
Speaker 1: question for you. Oh hey, sorry, everybody, I'm Ben Bullet. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure everybody knows who you are, right,
Speaker 1: right right? Uh, that was where my manners. It's okay,
Speaker 1: jump right into a question with I'm just excited. I
Speaker 1: want to hear this answer from you. This is a
Speaker 1: question that we have been asked frequently, UM, and I
Speaker 1: owe a big thanks to our Twitter and Facebook friend,
Speaker 1: uh Juan Gutierres. I hope you're listening here. Uh handle
Speaker 1: one hit acquitter. I think it is with two tea s.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure anyway, So one has asked us this,
Speaker 1: UM and wanted to stay on us about this because
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever quite answer bit. Matt. Of
Speaker 1: the stuff that we have covered, do you believe that
Speaker 1: any of it is quote unquote a real conspiracy? Oh
Speaker 1: there's so many. Well, Ben, one of the things that
Speaker 1: I really believe in is the New World Order? What like? Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So because it's been mentioned and I'm thinking of it
Speaker 1: as more of a plan to globalize the world. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so more of a plan you're talking about the plan
Speaker 1: to maybe put all states, all nation states, under the
Speaker 1: control of one central authority. Yeah, one, and who knows
Speaker 1: how loosely it will be. Just because you know, I've
Speaker 1: heard George H. W. Bush use the phrase new world order,
Speaker 1: I've heard, uh, you know, tons of people use this phrase,
Speaker 1: the new World order, the idea just and it's not
Speaker 1: as nefarious as anyone would like to believe, I don't think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it. It depends on who's who's at the helm.
Speaker 1: But the problem in lies in getting the way that
Speaker 1: you get about to that new world order. I think
Speaker 1: there are a lot of nefarious things that happen in
Speaker 1: small pockets in order to further that goal. And I
Speaker 1: really do believe that that is an overarching goal for
Speaker 1: a lot of different groups. Uh do these groups? Would
Speaker 1: you say these you believe that these groups collude or
Speaker 1: that they compete. I think there are certainly a ton
Speaker 1: of competing groups that want to have control, right, That's
Speaker 1: the conquering idea of humanity. You want to be in
Speaker 1: control of your realm. And if you've decided that your
Speaker 1: realm is the entire earth or perhaps even further, then
Speaker 1: that's what you try and do. Right. And there are
Speaker 1: a lot of ambitious men and women out there, So okay,
Speaker 1: so you you believe that they're not only could be,
Speaker 1: but that there are multiple groups of people essentially vying
Speaker 1: for a global hegemony. I think there are certain groups
Speaker 1: that were are perhaps secretive groups. UM. Let's just use
Speaker 1: one example of Skull and Bones society, UM, that have
Speaker 1: a a certain membership that she has then filtered out
Speaker 1: into other large important groups. Say, yeah, okay, they're kind
Speaker 1: of a skull and bones, kind of a decayed aristocracy,
Speaker 1: fat club. I mean, I'm sure, I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. The qualifications are nepotism, not talent,
Speaker 1: and this is absolutely true. But with that nepotism you
Speaker 1: have some of those same some of those old goals
Speaker 1: of control are still there. I think, Um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: this is this is really what I believe, and I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be honest with you. Sure, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not too far out there. I think,
Speaker 1: um too respond to part of this question. I think
Speaker 1: that there's something very clever about using a label to
Speaker 1: call something a conspiracy theory. Um. People would hear a
Speaker 1: label like new World Order, and our brains UM. Our
Speaker 1: brains love labels, right, We love pattern into categories things
Speaker 1: like that. So if we hear a label, it gives
Speaker 1: our brain UM kind of a diversion or a shortcut
Speaker 1: that can stop us from doing the hard, uphill task
Speaker 1: of thinking critically about something. Now, of course, it is
Speaker 1: true that George H. W. Bush did say there was
Speaker 1: a new World order. He was referring specifically to the
Speaker 1: order of power in the region in the Middle East
Speaker 1: theater I think and Um, of course it's true that
Speaker 1: not only nation states, but religions and UH, corporations especially
Speaker 1: which I think is the future of governance, would probably
Speaker 1: be corporate. UH. These these groups all by for power.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not unusual, it's not new, it is
Speaker 1: it's true. The part that I would have a problem
Speaker 1: believing is I just don't think that many of these
Speaker 1: organizations are as um as effective as they would like
Speaker 1: to be, as powerful as some people might think they are,
Speaker 1: or near as UM unified. I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: think there's one group of people, a small group of
Speaker 1: people who meet up once once a year and pick
Speaker 1: keepsie or something to run the world. UM. I do
Speaker 1: think there are people who run huge chunks of the world,
Speaker 1: like the financial sector. But that's just that's a monopoly
Speaker 1: more so than a conspiracy. Like it's true you can
Speaker 1: look up the bankers. UM. That's why things like Man,
Speaker 1: it's just so it sounds so out there when I'm
Speaker 1: hearing myself think it, or when I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: the Bohemian grove or places where these people from different
Speaker 1: groups do get together and just hang out and and
Speaker 1: hanging out really is all that it requires, um in
Speaker 1: my head, just to share ideas, to maybe give a
Speaker 1: little information here and there. Um, do you think that
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that? It's it's tough for me
Speaker 1: that that's tough for me to answer. I it feels
Speaker 1: wrong to me, just because there's if you we we
Speaker 1: we believe especially in this country, in our democratic UM
Speaker 1: our democratic society where all of the people know all
Speaker 1: of the things and we make decisions together, right, that's
Speaker 1: the idea. UM. That doesn't happen when you have people
Speaker 1: at the top colluding like that. Okay, oh good, all right.
Speaker 1: So if we're talking about collusion, let me answer a
Speaker 1: couple of conspiracy theories that I think are true. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: you and I have done this show for how many
Speaker 1: years now, It's been since two thousand end of two
Speaker 1: thousand eight. So the video we've done the video show.
Speaker 1: We're new to the audio stuff. Um. You guys, we
Speaker 1: we cover a lot of stuff, but we also run
Speaker 1: into so many things that we can't cover for one
Speaker 1: reason or another. And I've been chomping at the bit
Speaker 1: to talk about a few of these. One thing that
Speaker 1: we did talk about was the business plot that I
Speaker 1: believe that's a conspiracy theory that do believe the idea
Speaker 1: about the UM the automobile manufacturers getting together to kill
Speaker 1: the electric car quote unquote or demolish the train systems
Speaker 1: UM in the United States. I think that there's something
Speaker 1: to it. I think maybe they wanted to just own
Speaker 1: the train systems rather than demolish them. Uh, but I
Speaker 1: do think there was definitely something to it. They were
Speaker 1: found guilty and court of course, and as we point
Speaker 1: out in our show, they were fined one dollar, whole,
Speaker 1: one whole dollar loudly and slowly for justice. UM. I
Speaker 1: also believe that UM some of the well, I believe
Speaker 1: that some of the stuff that we've found that again
Speaker 1: is often labeled as a conspiracy theory, turns out just
Speaker 1: to be true, and that people who might think of
Speaker 1: themselves as skeptics, uh, forget that part of what being
Speaker 1: skeptical is is not just hearing a label and then
Speaker 1: throwing it in, you know, some easily easily categorized your
Speaker 1: umbrella style bucket in your mind. You know, you have
Speaker 1: to think critically about everything. So I'm rambling a little bit.
Speaker 1: But for example, HSBC caught, uh caught running with drug cartels,
Speaker 1: laundry money just a big picture of gigantic laundry map,
Speaker 1: but instead of clothing, it's millions of dollars of drug money.
Speaker 1: And uh would people would say that was a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory or something like that, and like, oh, you're vilifying
Speaker 1: bankers and so on, and it's just some guys that
Speaker 1: we're doing something that we consider wrong and they got caught. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not even I I don't think that it's important
Speaker 1: enough for my opinion to matter. It doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: consider it wrong legally, it's that's what we ask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's true. And uh, you know another thing that
Speaker 1: was haled to conspiracy theory that turned out to be
Speaker 1: absolutely true is the n s A spine on everybody
Speaker 1: right now in this room. There's probably a phone or
Speaker 1: an Internet connection with the mike oh man, I feel
Speaker 1: so sorry for Let me just apologize to whatever poor
Speaker 1: intern level government agent has been tasked to listen to
Speaker 1: our stuff. I mean, we're kidding, of course, because as
Speaker 1: we know, and if you know, if you checked out
Speaker 1: our show, you know that what the n s A
Speaker 1: has been collecting, or what even Brazil's intelligence agencies have
Speaker 1: been collecting, is essentially huge archive. They don't have human
Speaker 1: eyes and ears on everything, they have sorting algorithms. So
Speaker 1: the odds that a government agency might be spine on
Speaker 1: our show, however flattering that might be, frankly, are are
Speaker 1: very very slim. We are not the big fish in
Speaker 1: the pond, but one day we will be the big
Speaker 1: fish and you will have to listen to us. Sometimes
Speaker 1: we get emails, you guys, from people accusing us of
Speaker 1: being an intelligent A agency or asking what's the stuff
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know about the stuff. They
Speaker 1: don't want you to know, and we I don't want
Speaker 1: to spoil anything, but I'm planning a video, a special
Speaker 1: vlog where we are going to talk about this stuff
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know, doesn't want you to know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, all right, well, no spoilers. Everybody
Speaker 1: acts surprised. So Ben, I don't I hate to ask
Speaker 1: you another question to make you talk about, but tell
Speaker 1: me what's the most out there conspiracy that you believe
Speaker 1: at least fifty fifty two, let's say, in the fifty
Speaker 1: to seventy the the absolute most out there just just
Speaker 1: shoot shot out there. Um, you know, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to go kind of a kind of high level. For me,
Speaker 1: it's the assassinations or the questionable suicides, you know, I
Speaker 1: think JFK or talking okay, well, well just in general
Speaker 1: as a maybe as a genre, because I can't recall
Speaker 1: the details of some effic once. I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about them too much if I don't know. But
Speaker 1: for me, um, you know, when someone commits suicide by
Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the back of the head twice and
Speaker 1: then tying their arms together or something, or you know,
Speaker 1: when someone kills themselves by zipping themselves up into a
Speaker 1: Duffel bag after being shot. Uh, those are those are
Speaker 1: always questionable to me. And assassinations often come with a M. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a huge or of conspiracy, but there's also more
Speaker 1: of an opportunity often to prove or disprove the claims. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever public figure dies, whether we're talking Kurt
Speaker 1: Cobain or the Pope, people want to have some sort
Speaker 1: of more to the story thing. You know, I can't
Speaker 1: end here. Yeah, even though even though that's the human condition,
Speaker 1: people just die. Um, But we always are finding we
Speaker 1: being humans, not you and I are always finding more
Speaker 1: information about things that maybe once seemed like they were
Speaker 1: put to rest. You've you've probably said recently about Ara
Speaker 1: Fat and the polonium traces found on the body, which
Speaker 1: means that uh Yasser Arafat was most likely poisoned, and
Speaker 1: polonium was also used on the Russian journalist Alexander Litvenko. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: polonium is in the Levenko thing. People pointed the finger
Speaker 1: Russia and they said, well, Russia, which means putin essentially
Speaker 1: is uh is killing him in retaliation or assassinating him
Speaker 1: to stop him from spreading secrets about the oligarchs. But
Speaker 1: in this case with yosa Era Fat, people are pointing
Speaker 1: the finger at Massa, which is Israel's equivalent of the
Speaker 1: CIA or the KGB. And um, we don't you know,
Speaker 1: we don't know really who did this. We just know
Speaker 1: that people don't usually have polonium in their bodies occurring.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. Um, can I I know I'm
Speaker 1: talking so much, man, but can I tell you one
Speaker 1: of the ones that I've always wanted to cover? All right,
Speaker 1: So this is something that will never cover on our
Speaker 1: video series because it concerns a very very disturbing topic.
Speaker 1: Oh no, is it child pornography? Yeah, it's the pedophilia rings.
Speaker 1: So this Uh so this came to our attention a
Speaker 1: couple of times. We've heard, you know, when people believe
Speaker 1: that there's some um dark religious organization or satanic cult
Speaker 1: uh involved in kidnappings or disappearances or murders. Uh, the
Speaker 1: idea of child abuse of this sort always comes up.
Speaker 1: But um, we ran into a story that might be
Speaker 1: familiar to some people in Belgium about a pedophilia ring. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't have the notes with me. But a guy
Speaker 1: gets arrested, uh, and they find out that he had
Speaker 1: three h three kids in his basement and then he
Speaker 1: does he's like an itinerant worker. He has a handyman,
Speaker 1: ers a carpenter or something. He's not making a lot
Speaker 1: of money, but he owns three houses, it turns out.
Speaker 1: And then he says he's going to get away with
Speaker 1: it because he works for powerful people. And uh, he
Speaker 1: does get locked up and his wife gets in trouble
Speaker 1: as well. There were people claiming that this was a
Speaker 1: bigger ring. Someone who was assigned to be a judge
Speaker 1: in the case burst into tears, and the news witnesses
Speaker 1: would be were disappearing, you know, like the beds were
Speaker 1: set on fire with them and them and stuff. And
Speaker 1: there was a march of thirty people to protest the
Speaker 1: lack of action on this ring. Um, we haven't reported
Speaker 1: it because we don't have we're not making a video
Speaker 1: about that. I would protest if you asked me to
Speaker 1: do that. I wouldn't. I would protest if you asked
Speaker 1: me to do the same thing. But that's something for instance,
Speaker 1: that's something I think is um, it has to have
Speaker 1: some truth to it. Maybe we can cover it in
Speaker 1: depth with an audio episode someday. Yeah, maybe we can.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna toss the question you what is the craziest,
Speaker 1: most out there thing that you think could be let's say,
Speaker 1: have a grain of truth. Okay, So this is a
Speaker 1: little caveat here. I'm I'm not gonna I'm choosing not
Speaker 1: to answer that question. I'm gonna be a politician, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna reward the question slightly. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe in this, However, I think it is
Speaker 1: the best conspiracy theory, most interesting that I have ever heard,
Speaker 1: and I I I wish I knew more information about it,
Speaker 1: and I wish it was true because it's so fascinating
Speaker 1: to me, the Project Blue Beam. I am fascinated by this. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, so do the gist. Yeah, okay. So this
Speaker 1: is this is the one where holographic technology would be
Speaker 1: used by some government, probably the US government, to make
Speaker 1: people in different regions of the world, to believe that
Speaker 1: the Messiah, their Messiah, whoever it is that they believe
Speaker 1: in that region, would come down to Earth and tell
Speaker 1: them that there's an alien attack coming. The religions that
Speaker 1: you're following are not the true religions. Push everyone towards
Speaker 1: a humanitarian strained, humanitarian religion of sorts. Then they would
Speaker 1: stage an alien invasion with the same technology, and everyone
Speaker 1: would come together and solidify the human people's the human species.
Speaker 1: What's great about that plan is like, you know how
Speaker 1: straightforward it is. It's so it's so blue sky, like,
Speaker 1: of course it's blue sky. You need it for the holograms,
Speaker 1: but the weather, Yeah, exactly. I don't know that. That
Speaker 1: to me is so fascinating and so Bondvillian and Villion,
Speaker 1: and I like that. I like Bondvillian Villian. Bondvillian is
Speaker 1: a great one. Oh I uh, I think that is
Speaker 1: in scene. I could I could actually see that kind
Speaker 1: of operation being applied in a very local area. You know,
Speaker 1: I could work for cargo cults um in the Pacific,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know if we could do
Speaker 1: it on a global scale. There's another one. There's one
Speaker 1: last one that I want to talk about. I want
Speaker 1: to get your opinion. We mentioned this off air, cryptozoology,
Speaker 1: all right now, I'm not yeah, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: I believe in, uh, the of some pleasyas were descendant
Speaker 1: in Scotland, because I don't and I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: I think that sasquatches some sort of extra dimensional time
Speaker 1: traveling uh entity, which some people do believe. Um, I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen proof for it. I'm still crossing my
Speaker 1: fingers that that's the truth about. It'd be cool, man.
Speaker 1: He could be here right now and he's just blurry
Speaker 1: like that old Miss head Burg joke. But the the
Speaker 1: thing that got me is when we looked at our
Speaker 1: episode on whether or not they're living dinosaurs and if so,
Speaker 1: where they would be. UM, looking at some of this stuff,
Speaker 1: what I found was that it's possible that there are large, larger,
Speaker 1: undiscovered animals. We don't even know how many species of
Speaker 1: animals are there are. I'm not saying that there would
Speaker 1: be some fantastic creatures from fiction, like a griffin or
Speaker 1: basilisk or minotaur or something, or even a dinosaur. I
Speaker 1: think that is kind of it's very difficult to think
Speaker 1: that that kind of thing could be alive and undiscovered.
Speaker 1: But it's almost certain that there are undiscovered animals out
Speaker 1: there somewhere. They probably they probably are just not as
Speaker 1: fantastic and cool in Hollywood as we would want to
Speaker 1: think they are. It's true, and it is less likely
Speaker 1: that they're really large the ones that we haven't discovered, right,
Speaker 1: just because of the amount of food they need, the space,
Speaker 1: they need, a lot of factors. But I'll, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll stay there with you and hold out hope there's
Speaker 1: some large undiscovered, say reptilian and or dinosaur. Let's do it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a sort of small dinosaur. Well, you know, the
Speaker 1: old joke is always that, uh, dinosaurs never died out
Speaker 1: there around us all the time. They just have feathers now.
Speaker 1: So it's true though. Yeah, they evolved, man, yeah everywhere.
Speaker 1: And birds are birds are still jerks. So uh, one
Speaker 1: and everybody who has written to us about this, I
Speaker 1: hope that we have answered your questions here. It turns
Speaker 1: out that, uh, Matt, you said you do believe in
Speaker 1: a variety of New World order. I do believe that
Speaker 1: the business plot happened. I think there was something to
Speaker 1: electric cars. I am certain that there was some sort
Speaker 1: of legal chicanery going on with child abuse in Belgium.
Speaker 1: And uh. Some of these things are things that we
Speaker 1: have covered on our show. Some we have yet to cover.
Speaker 1: Some we will cover on our audio podcast, Matt I'm
Speaker 1: running off of the mouth. Where can people find us? Guys,
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