Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty two,
Speaker 1: Episode three of day production of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, August thirty one, two miles.
Speaker 1: What does it mean? What does it all means? Jack?
Speaker 1: You know, it's the last day of August, which means
Speaker 1: we only celebrate one thing. That's actually there's so much. First,
Speaker 1: it's National diet to Maceous Earth Day. If you've ever
Speaker 1: had problems like fleas or bugs, you've maybe bought this
Speaker 1: a remedy of like a pest problem dis earth. Also
Speaker 1: National Eat Outside Day, National Matchmaker Day, National South Carolina Day,
Speaker 1: National Trail Mix. Right, so the first to kind of
Speaker 1: go together. A lot of these go together. Trail Nix
Speaker 1: usually said something to keep the fleas and ticks away
Speaker 1: through the Palmetto State. Obviously, I'll tell it when I think,
Speaker 1: when I think South Carolina, I think trail Mix. Also,
Speaker 1: association might not be the right one, but I have. Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a kaya Jack Horseman, and
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. Weird. Ask Christians start that time had come.
Speaker 1: But they don't know that. Dare the only ones to
Speaker 1: say no game where they go with what they looking for.
Speaker 1: If Jesus saw y'all, he was saying no more with you.
Speaker 1: He's through because you picked fascism was your priceful rights?
Speaker 1: Even Christ like this saying right, just please buck off tonight.
Speaker 1: All right? That was in the shower this morning. I
Speaker 1: was just thinking a sister Christian and I turned into weird.
Speaker 1: Ask Christians and there we go in a k for
Speaker 1: it was political bro exactly. Man, Jesus would be like, what, well,
Speaker 1: Miles Weird thrilled speaking of political Weird thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined by the hosts of one of the funniest podcasts.
Speaker 1: It's not very political romance, but the act of listening
Speaker 1: and recording it is a political statement in many ways. Um,
Speaker 1: it's my favorite place. We are women. We are women,
Speaker 1: which means that our bodies are political property, thank you.
Speaker 1: Our bodies are political battle grounds. There it is, and
Speaker 1: we are actually the first women to have a podcast.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that on the Wikipedia book. Also, just
Speaker 1: a great place to get recap to the Bachelor and
Speaker 1: the Bachelortte. Even if you don't watch those shows. I
Speaker 1: do feel like I'm watching it with you guys when
Speaker 1: you recap the show. And just also it's not like
Speaker 1: a Bachelor podcast though it's there, there's plenty of other
Speaker 1: good ship. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Carolina Barlow
Speaker 1: and Devin Leary. Thank you so much for having us
Speaker 1: on you guys. It's so great, Like we needed that
Speaker 1: ego boost, And it isn't a crazy that women weren't
Speaker 1: allowed to have podcasts until or ego boosts or ego
Speaker 1: boost until very recently. Was actually twenty Uh that was
Speaker 1: I was trying to think about when our podcast started.
Speaker 1: And you guys are gonna go now now that you've
Speaker 1: got the ego boost. You said, you're just gonna out.
Speaker 1: We jumped, we put our and um, we really wanted
Speaker 1: to just, yeah, get that information out there because a
Speaker 1: lot of people think that that you know, women have
Speaker 1: had podcasts forever. No, not true. Not those are all men.
Speaker 1: And Devin said, when I you know, picture the idea
Speaker 1: of true romance. She said, do you think they'll love
Speaker 1: women have a podcast? And I said, I guess we're
Speaker 1: women women past, and we all we can do is
Speaker 1: shop so that is so true. We were shopping at
Speaker 1: the time. Okay, this is all making more sense. We're
Speaker 1: getting our nails hair is done and shopping at the
Speaker 1: same time. We're getting our hair is done, and we
Speaker 1: were thinking with our damn noggins for the first time
Speaker 1: in our goddamn lives. This is great. This is an
Speaker 1: amazing origin story that will no doubt be made into
Speaker 1: a film one day. Yeah, well, it's actually Nicole Kidman's attached. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kidman's attached to play me, I think me because you
Speaker 1: know what, she has a deviated septum, and so do I.
Speaker 1: I guess you guys have both lied about that. Great great,
Speaker 1: great great great No no no no no. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: while you're added, I guess we can do some stuff
Speaker 1: since I do have that DV. When Devon got her
Speaker 1: nose jobs, she told her dad to tell people she
Speaker 1: was in a car accident. I didn't, Yes you did.
Speaker 1: These are lies, These are lies I've opened about the
Speaker 1: plastic surgery. I'm not like a Kardashian. I know everybody's asking,
Speaker 1: everybody's wondering how she looks so perfect all the time.
Speaker 1: Guess what was actually my first question on this dock.
Speaker 1: You did say it was contouring. I said, it's makeup. No,
Speaker 1: it's not makeup. But it also wasn't a car accident.
Speaker 1: And tell your dad to tell his assistant that it
Speaker 1: was a car accident. At one point I told him
Speaker 1: to say some sort of accident. I didn't, first of all,
Speaker 1: and second of all, that septum was deviated even before then.
Speaker 1: I just don't want you to appropriate my culture. That's
Speaker 1: all I ask. What you haven't you think you've been
Speaker 1: through something, you've had, You've been sick, you've had an illness.
Speaker 1: Don't don't get even Devon started on her acid reflux
Speaker 1: because we don't have the time. We'll turn it into
Speaker 1: like a fundraising all right. I'm crossing off the first
Speaker 1: two questions because my first was how does she look
Speaker 1: so perfect? Second was talking about your asset reflux. So
Speaker 1: we're okay, we've got those knocked out. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know you guys a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're can get a little update from
Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Police Department. We're gonna get a little updated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it turns out we're gonna get an update from the magazine.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get an update on inflation, a lot of updates,
Speaker 1: a lot updates, folks, all that, plenty more. But first,
Speaker 1: Devin Carolina, we like to ask our guests, what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that is revealing about who
Speaker 1: you are? Well? I think Austummers on the podcast, or
Speaker 1: maybe the first time I was on this podcast, I
Speaker 1: did say that I google Ivanka regularly googled her this morning.
Speaker 1: I hate her. I think she's the band of my existence.
Speaker 1: She represents to me the how is she still the
Speaker 1: bank in though? Like, what's she doing now? I just
Speaker 1: want to see her come up and I want to
Speaker 1: see her and jaredd arrested in jail a deviated septim.
Speaker 1: She had a serious actually, i've heard from a source
Speaker 1: ak and makeup art. She can't breathe through her nose
Speaker 1: because she's had so many nose jobs. She has a
Speaker 1: completely different head than when I went to college with
Speaker 1: her and then when her Yeah, we we saw each
Speaker 1: other for a little bit. It was nothing serious, but
Speaker 1: there was more of a situation ship. I think that's
Speaker 1: what the kids were calling it. But a totally different
Speaker 1: head like everything. Yeah, it's very sure she really went
Speaker 1: through it. Um, she will be in court one day
Speaker 1: saying they took out her frontal cortex and that's why
Speaker 1: she made the decisions. She did my search history, so
Speaker 1: Ivanka's always in there. But I also I did the
Speaker 1: other day want to check in on the Bachelor in
Speaker 1: Paradise couples because I saw that Joe and Serena had
Speaker 1: an engagement party. I'm really happy for them. I do
Speaker 1: you think they're in love? And so I just want
Speaker 1: to check in on a few others. Grocery store, grocery store.
Speaker 1: Joe and Serena was the one from Canada, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they still they stuck together. They stuck together, they're living together,
Speaker 1: they're getting married. They had an engagement party and did
Speaker 1: a post about the color scheme for it, and that
Speaker 1: was news that I read. And then I said, let's
Speaker 1: check on on some other ones. Becca proposed to Tommy Thomas,
Speaker 1: who was a villain. He sucked. I just think he's
Speaker 1: a con artist. And um, when women are like I'm
Speaker 1: proposing to him, it's an act of something like I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you just want to get married. Yeah, do you think
Speaker 1: you're undercutting yourself by telling it too? Marriage? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It's brave and feminism. Devon. What is
Speaker 1: something from your search history? Okay, what I pulled for
Speaker 1: you guys, out of all the options is us search
Speaker 1: for Demilovado's hair hair in two thousand twelve. Um, Carolina,
Speaker 1: you've just fully scratched your speaker on your computer and
Speaker 1: deafened all of us. Oh, I'm sorry. That was definitely
Speaker 1: a passive aggressive So right right during my turn to
Speaker 1: speaks hairs and she's going to say it because I
Speaker 1: injured them. He's like, oh, no, how to get healthier?
Speaker 1: I had hearing because because I wasn't gonna go here,
Speaker 1: but I will. Sometimes when we have actual Sometimes when
Speaker 1: we have actual guests on our podcast Zoom, Carolina will
Speaker 1: try to pretend like she's playing paying attention, but she'll
Speaker 1: start typing and she doesn't realize that we can hear it,
Speaker 1: and so she's just loudly typing in a deafening tone
Speaker 1: and she's like, that sounds interesting and it couldn't history.
Speaker 1: That's happening right now, for history is hurting my soul.
Speaker 1: I once when a podcast was over a Great Bad
Speaker 1: Store a podcast. The podcast it ended, the interview had ended.
Speaker 1: I was responding to a text on my computer. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking even more recent time, and I think you
Speaker 1: actually lied and said that it was a work email,
Speaker 1: but you just blew your cover, so you know what,
Speaker 1: such a bit. I'm so our guests are listening right now,
Speaker 1: thinking that I even all over them. Yeah I do.
Speaker 1: I don't think they are. Yeah, they were famous. They're
Speaker 1: probably listening, so I know, yeah, we have the most
Speaker 1: famous listenership Michelle Obama. Please. It was famously when Michelle
Speaker 1: came on True Romance Maker Marcos also followed her. We're
Speaker 1: trying to arrange times at work on her end. You're
Speaker 1: texting back and forth. You like, you buy what Megan saying.
Speaker 1: We compete with one another to have the famous, the
Speaker 1: most famous listener base. So this is cool. This is
Speaker 1: like we're, you know, burying the hatchet a little bit
Speaker 1: because there is tension between the two shows. Oh definitely,
Speaker 1: all right, but I'm sorry, what was the I searched hair.
Speaker 1: It looked amazing then, but I was just trying to
Speaker 1: tell if it was extensions because her hair looks so
Speaker 1: bad now and I can say her, because she's back
Speaker 1: to shee her, but her hair looks her whole look
Speaker 1: right now is terrible. So I just wanted to go
Speaker 1: back to the old days. And it was two twelve
Speaker 1: was the peak. She had like huge extensions, dark like
Speaker 1: dark brown hair with like a maroon highlight. Beautiful. That
Speaker 1: cool for the summer. No, oh my god, it was
Speaker 1: it was it was unbrokenan mhmm, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: a Demilovado historian. War All right, Well, you guys can
Speaker 1: see the picture array behind me, but the listeners can't,
Speaker 1: so please just go with me on this. It's kind
Speaker 1: of embarrassing. Yeah, you you have like the name Demitria tattooed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's beautiful. A lot of people don't know. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a real name. Yes, skyscraper tattooed on his hand. What
Speaker 1: is what? Something you guys think is overreadd I Carolina
Speaker 1: looks stumped, so let me jump in. I think I
Speaker 1: think data privacy is is overrated. I completely agree with Devon,
Speaker 1: but I have my own because this is just like Caroline,
Speaker 1: and Carolina will famously go to a restaurant, wait for
Speaker 1: me to order, and then order the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: but and not even comment on it, just as if
Speaker 1: she also wanted that, like not saying I'll have the same,
Speaker 1: but like order it like you haven't just cas This
Speaker 1: may have happened once and the only reason Devon's mad
Speaker 1: is because she likes to eat everything and doesn't want
Speaker 1: dust to get the same meal so she can have
Speaker 1: a bite of whatever I'm happening. Okay, this is some
Speaker 1: early two thousand's era insults. Um, Devon's actually likes to
Speaker 1: eat everything. Said, I went to Devon out to dinner
Speaker 1: with Will Ferrell, and she whispered to me before dinner
Speaker 1: started that she was nervous because it was we're eating
Speaker 1: tapas style, and she was like, I can't share. So
Speaker 1: I had to announce at the table as if I
Speaker 1: were her mother, like by the way, Devon's going to
Speaker 1: get her own plate and she's going to eat it
Speaker 1: by herself, and Devon just nodded silently, And you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to look at exactly. And also tapas tapas are overrated,
Speaker 1: no offense to anyone, But I think I think data
Speaker 1: privacy is overrated because I think back to the days
Speaker 1: when you had to go to a store and human
Speaker 1: beings would come up to you. Disgusting human obnoxious human
Speaker 1: beings would come up to you and say, like, why
Speaker 1: don't you try this? Like what do you think of that?
Speaker 1: Like trying this on? This would look good? What are
Speaker 1: you looking for? What are you shopping for today? That
Speaker 1: is hell? And what our lack of data privacy has
Speaker 1: done has made it possible the Internet boom, when we
Speaker 1: didn't know that we were losing all our rights to privacy,
Speaker 1: made it possible for us to skip that step. Everything
Speaker 1: we want just gets shown to us, like the wedding
Speaker 1: singer when I don't know what to watch on a
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, And now people all just want to be
Speaker 1: like I want, they're gonna take Gary alexis listening to you.
Speaker 1: First of all, are you doing anything that anyone would
Speaker 1: even care about? If not, then you're just getting more convenience?
Speaker 1: And what's the problem? I like this, Like you sound
Speaker 1: like an ethicist who works at Amazon. It's like, what's
Speaker 1: the fucking deal? You get this? But so what we've
Speaker 1: mapped the interior of your home with a fucking room
Speaker 1: buck and better? I like that version, like pushing you
Speaker 1: around it? What you care about data privacy? Now, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna shop in the store. I don't think.
Speaker 1: So that's exactly how I feel. Say that about when
Speaker 1: you know how people cover their cameras on top of
Speaker 1: like piece of tape. They'll cover their cameras, cover there
Speaker 1: whatever microphone. I am always like if someone and literally
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg does it, like you, there's been a picture
Speaker 1: of him, so people, so a lot of normal people. Okay,
Speaker 1: sounds good example because it's so common that it's so
Speaker 1: well known that they're insecure, that even people who are
Speaker 1: super high tech do it. Yeah. Also, he has billions
Speaker 1: of dollars, so he has actually watch his cookies. I
Speaker 1: accept all cookies because I actually get more. Do you
Speaker 1: guys have an option for like extra cookies? You could
Speaker 1: put a gun to my head and say what are cookies?
Speaker 1: And I would say, just shoot me, get it over with,
Speaker 1: because you're a very interesting gunmen who's like what are cookies?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. Jokes
Speaker 1: on me, isn't it. I Also I'm like, if the
Speaker 1: n s A Wants to watch me watch Southern Charm
Speaker 1: on my computer while I'm spilling peanut butter on my
Speaker 1: chest and then eating it off my shirt. That's on them.
Speaker 1: That's their problem. I don't need I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1: Watch me do whatever. What I think is overrated is
Speaker 1: any kind of food that you have to wait in
Speaker 1: line for. So once in a while you'll be driving
Speaker 1: through restaurants anywhere and you'll see a line outside of
Speaker 1: a restaurant or a food truck, and your thought is
Speaker 1: that must be really good. My media thought is what
Speaker 1: suckers because you can walk down the street and you're
Speaker 1: waiting in line and you're thus your experience already sucks
Speaker 1: for whatever you're doing. So Stumptown Coffee in New York
Speaker 1: ten years ago, because you know, like I'm a wise
Speaker 1: old lady. Ten ten yeah, ten, twelve years ago in
Speaker 1: New York, this was considered like incredible, rare coffee. Peep.
Speaker 1: We would wait down the street from the Ace Hotel
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not going to wait in
Speaker 1: line for coffee? What is that? This is my time matters.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to wait in line for I remember
Speaker 1: my friends once made me wait in line for um,
Speaker 1: what's the burger place that's everywhere? Now? Devon shake, what's
Speaker 1: your problem? Shake check. I remember when there was a
Speaker 1: line through Union Square and I waited on it for hours,
Speaker 1: and it's now it's ridiculous. So there's no such food
Speaker 1: that that is that good that I will wait for it.
Speaker 1: The croissant donuts that were in New York that was
Speaker 1: a line people would wake up like five am to
Speaker 1: get them. I enjoy good things. I like food. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to wait in line for anything. Right for you,
Speaker 1: it sounds for both of you, sounds like immediate gratification
Speaker 1: is definitely like number one, sure, do not delay, And yes,
Speaker 1: I don't funk with delays, even if they cost me
Speaker 1: my fucking privacy. I actually think about it a lot
Speaker 1: when I'm getting lifts, because you know, a faster car
Speaker 1: sometimes costs more money, and I think I have to
Speaker 1: think about it, like, Okay, would I rather wait twenty
Speaker 1: minutes or when I rather pay ten dollars more and
Speaker 1: be out of here right now? Just get away from
Speaker 1: this awkward conversation at this Yeah, I get away from
Speaker 1: my plastic surgeon's office. So yeah, yeah, all right, what's
Speaker 1: what's something you guys think is underrated? Okay? I was
Speaker 1: just reminded of something that I think is really underrated,
Speaker 1: which is me on uber dot com because my my
Speaker 1: rating on Uber has been horrible for years and just okay,
Speaker 1: listen listeners. Just when you think that's a red flag,
Speaker 1: it's not. Because I have a five point of rating
Speaker 1: on Lift, meaning I'm a good person. But I actually
Speaker 1: took an Uber and the guy said, wow, you're rating
Speaker 1: so low, but you actually seem like a good person.
Speaker 1: I was like, I am a good actually, like I
Speaker 1: have a good person. What do you mean? But I
Speaker 1: don't know where this comes from, but I think it's
Speaker 1: actually I think it's actually the patriarchy because I think
Speaker 1: one save, I think one person gave me a bad rating.
Speaker 1: I think this happened in Cleveland, Ohio when I was
Speaker 1: there because I was there for the r NC. The
Speaker 1: ubers just just just to attend, by the way, no
Speaker 1: I was working there. She was working at on my
Speaker 1: cockety assistants know she was there to cover for the
Speaker 1: Daily Show. I feel like adding more context, because that's
Speaker 1: good that context. Definitely, I mean not to attend to
Speaker 1: work there hand out paphlets on what their abortion was
Speaker 1: gonna our Christian nation and the Christian I wanted to
Speaker 1: show them that they're one uh, one second old fetus
Speaker 1: already learned how to read right and that therefore there
Speaker 1: one second fetus was smarter than me. Drum roll please,
Speaker 1: okay No. So I was there and the ubers were
Speaker 1: so talkative, like the people were so talkative that I
Speaker 1: just had to start being rude because I was like,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to talk to this person about
Speaker 1: like what are you in pound for? What do you
Speaker 1: all doing here? Like I just couldn't do it. And
Speaker 1: then also like I kept canceling them because they would
Speaker 1: take so long because it was Ohio, I think so
Speaker 1: like I would be trying to get to work and
Speaker 1: they would be like circling the block. It was ten
Speaker 1: minutes away. I just had to cancel. So I think
Speaker 1: my my rating went down there. Okay, then I start
Speaker 1: then I come back to my life in New York.
Speaker 1: I start getting in the ubers and what are these
Speaker 1: ubers driven by men? And what do they see? Low rating?
Speaker 1: And then what do they see? Also a woman? And
Speaker 1: they think, oh, she must be what's that for a
Speaker 1: letter word? A bit? That's what they thought I was
Speaker 1: was gonna say another one, and they exactly so they thought,
Speaker 1: oh self, fulfilling prophecy. You know what, she's a bit.
Speaker 1: She probably doesn't even like be nice to men. She's
Speaker 1: probably rejects me, just like Sarah Swankins in middle school did.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give her a three star reading and it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I do. I'm so nice. I like
Speaker 1: try to make conversation. You smoke in their cars with
Speaker 1: the way, and I and I eat onions. But aside
Speaker 1: from that, I'm I'm really pilly cheese steaks at nine am,
Speaker 1: spilling it all over. I don't know what. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do about this, but it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a like lowish rating. I don't know when
Speaker 1: we were first working together, Miles, do you remember this.
Speaker 1: I we would like the drivers say like, yo, your
Speaker 1: rating is low. I think so, And also like we
Speaker 1: kept like I kept getting dropped, like they would just
Speaker 1: cancel on repeatedly, and so I finally like checked my
Speaker 1: score and it was like in the it wasn't that low.
Speaker 1: But then from that point forward, I've been like pressing,
Speaker 1: like just stressed out by every interaction with an uber
Speaker 1: driver and like being too friendly, which I think also
Speaker 1: isn't good. I'm like yeah, so yeah, I'm tilting on Uber.
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad for me. What about you? I
Speaker 1: actually have a perfect lift rating. The one of the
Speaker 1: driver said he had never seen one like mine. He laughed.
Speaker 1: He was like, you have you must have the app
Speaker 1: he and I said, oh, really do I? I think
Speaker 1: I'm just a polite person, I said, but you will
Speaker 1: not believe what my friend does in these cars. I'm
Speaker 1: at four point eight eight on Uber now, by the way,
Speaker 1: so all the hard work paid off. What okay, it
Speaker 1: must be nice and I won't be sharing mine on
Speaker 1: here because I have a reputation to protect. So true, fair, fair, Carolina,
Speaker 1: Do you have an underrated or my underrated is never
Speaker 1: have I ever? On Netflix? Friend, I am not underrated.
Speaker 1: It's like number three on the trendy doesn't destroys my life.
Speaker 1: Just talk about reputation. You are first of the first
Speaker 1: one to share mind comes in. She comes in with
Speaker 1: another scratch on the speakers. She's like, Netflix, I don't
Speaker 1: know what scratches you're talking about. I know you're the
Speaker 1: one who can't hear it. You're the only one who's
Speaker 1: not wincing when it's actually bad. But okay, go ahead, okay,
Speaker 1: start going to recommend friends. You're gonna recommend friends on
Speaker 1: com about a bunch of friends, I talk about tension life.
Speaker 1: You think you know nderrated? Me and a friendship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: me as a friend, Me as a podcast, yes, me
Speaker 1: as a technological person. Who did you like between? Who
Speaker 1: did you like between Ben and Paxton? Ben? You like Ben?
Speaker 1: Paxiston looks like he's a hundred years old old. The
Speaker 1: men that are cast on this show need to go
Speaker 1: to see Dr Jessica Wou and Beverly Hills who gives them.
Speaker 1: But you need to not be cast in high school ship.
Speaker 1: It's like when you look at like that guy Darren Bartnett.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm like this motherfucker thirty one, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: he looks like a guy who is like cruising a
Speaker 1: high school for exactly exactly oh Man show. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: some people don't know it. Devon. I'm when I say underrated,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get a little bit
Speaker 1: into this because I feel like someone attacks my character.
Speaker 1: As they say on the show Bachelorette, she attacks my character.
Speaker 1: And when I say underrated, I mean that the show
Speaker 1: Ships Creek was rated very well, and it was rated
Speaker 1: just as I mean, it got awards awards, and I
Speaker 1: think that never have I ever should be up there.
Speaker 1: I think it's a classic right now. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of the younger generation, the jen zeers, when I
Speaker 1: think it should be a millennial even boomers I believe
Speaker 1: will like this show. So you okay, I actually had
Speaker 1: lumped it in. This is helpful underrated for me. I
Speaker 1: had lumped it and was like shows that I'm too
Speaker 1: old to watch and care about, and like that it
Speaker 1: would be weird for me to watch. Never have I
Speaker 1: ever seen this is a beneficial experience. I feel like
Speaker 1: I am saying that is to you know, quit the
Speaker 1: tension that's developing between me and this is actually really
Speaker 1: good for me. Exactly, I think we should just exactly
Speaker 1: if I can get the green square for one more second,
Speaker 1: just to say one last thing. I didn't know, and
Speaker 1: I'm taking note of the fact that the definition of
Speaker 1: underrated is actually as compared to Ship's Creek. I wasn't aware.
Speaker 1: I thought she was going to say something, and then
Speaker 1: she turns up. She's the same devon. Don't expect me
Speaker 1: to change. I've already tried um. All right, Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna let you just marrinate on that one.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna take a break. I guess that's around
Speaker 1: line from a woman who made it's like a Lisa
Speaker 1: Barlow like whoever, whichoever? The Housewives almost gets arrested for
Speaker 1: fraud been arrested. All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back to talk about the news. And
Speaker 1: we're back and we have an update from the Minneapolis
Speaker 1: Police Department. And just like generally, the police have been
Speaker 1: really good at dealing with criticism and historically, yes, historically
Speaker 1: have you did you guys watch We Own This City?
Speaker 1: I watched the pilot and then I was like, this
Speaker 1: is so heavy, classic classic white privilege thing to say.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so heavy. I have to
Speaker 1: put this aside for later. I learned about this later.
Speaker 1: It's based on it's a lot of same like people
Speaker 1: being bad cops repeatedly, which is a criticism I heard,
Speaker 1: I've heard. I find it pretty entertaining. But like one
Speaker 1: of the big plot points is that after the Freddie
Speaker 1: Gray protests, the police just like stopped policing and stopped
Speaker 1: even leaving their squad cars like when they came to
Speaker 1: a crime. So that's that's one example. The NYPD went
Speaker 1: on strike and crime went down. You're kidding the irony,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean like in Minneapolis specifically. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of attention on the Minneapolis Police Department
Speaker 1: because there's a lack a lot of calls and like
Speaker 1: defunding the police there, and people were like, yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of momentum to that, but the biggest
Speaker 1: bite that was actually sort of taken out of their
Speaker 1: policing budget was like about eight million dollars despite what
Speaker 1: cop humpers across the political spectrum we're saying, and the
Speaker 1: city also like eventually voted to like not reform the
Speaker 1: police department as like a department for public safety. So
Speaker 1: the blue line you know, survived in that instance. But
Speaker 1: by this year now like in their budgets are actually
Speaker 1: higher than they were pre George Floyd. So all's, well,
Speaker 1: that ends well for them, but there's like there's there's
Speaker 1: there's mounting crisis with the city because the police are
Speaker 1: basically just draining the fucking city budget with all their ships.
Speaker 1: So to start off, there's been an exodus of police
Speaker 1: officers who have left because their feelings were just hurt
Speaker 1: by the protests nearly three hundred officers. This is from
Speaker 1: this piece of Mother Jones saying that nearly three hundred
Speaker 1: officers left the department since Floyd's murder. That's a third
Speaker 1: of the force, and two hundred of them have left
Speaker 1: with workers comp settlement checks and lucrative disability pensions based
Speaker 1: on their claims that the policing at the protests of
Speaker 1: gave them PTSD the feelings, and so now they are
Speaker 1: getting huge checks to not even fucking work anymore. And
Speaker 1: the city has estimated to pay about thirty five million
Speaker 1: in these disability claims and these like workers can settlements
Speaker 1: like since left, yeah, and and like, and these are
Speaker 1: cops that have, like some of these cops have like
Speaker 1: extensive records of misconduct, like leading to killings and just
Speaker 1: all kinds of just shitty behavior. So this is slowly
Speaker 1: creating this like fiscal omni crisis. And that's just sort
Speaker 1: of one dimension of it. Because here's the other huge number.
Speaker 1: The city has paid out eleven one hundred eleven million
Speaker 1: dollars in settlements to people that were fucking brutalized by
Speaker 1: the Minneapolis police in the first fifteen days after George
Speaker 1: Floyd's murder. They're saying all the misconduct from the first
Speaker 1: fifteenth day in response to that murder has turned into
Speaker 1: one eleven million dollars in settlements. So city officials are
Speaker 1: not like kind of in a buying because on one hand,
Speaker 1: they're like, well, this is fucking too much, Like they're
Speaker 1: just taking off with all this money for reasons like
Speaker 1: we're not totally aligned with but also if they go
Speaker 1: to court and try and fight it, they could end
Speaker 1: up paying even more. So you know, they're in a
Speaker 1: bit of a buying just being like, so you raise
Speaker 1: taxes and then cut back other programs to offset the
Speaker 1: cost of just having to deal with the police in
Speaker 1: our city. It's just a very it's a very fucked
Speaker 1: up situation as you look at it, because even if
Speaker 1: you you know, as they even ideated around, it turns
Speaker 1: out it's they like the cops basically played like a
Speaker 1: un no reverse card on the city. Right. I would
Speaker 1: love to read a quick quote by Miriam Kabba. She's
Speaker 1: an amazing abolitionist, and I think it goes into what
Speaker 1: you guys said, But she said, if we say anything
Speaker 1: about the impunity with which they harm people, this is
Speaker 1: going to hurt their feelings, and hurt feelings equals massive crime.
Speaker 1: It sounds ridiculous if you actually think about it, but
Speaker 1: it is convincing to vast swaths of the country. What
Speaker 1: other profession do we say that because they have low morale,
Speaker 1: we have to suffer violence as a result. So it's
Speaker 1: this idea that like, we need to fucking get Blue
Speaker 1: Lives Matter tattooed on our bodies to show police their
Speaker 1: support or else someone's gonna murder us. It's the crazy
Speaker 1: idea and it's completely mythical, and I think it's also
Speaker 1: much more influenced. Hate to say it, because I was
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the show and it got me
Speaker 1: through college Dick Wolf's Law and Order. I think it's
Speaker 1: plagues the nation more than we even know, and it's
Speaker 1: given us this collective story that they are here, they
Speaker 1: work all the time to solve crime, when really they're
Speaker 1: just writing parking tickets, yeah, or killing people over a
Speaker 1: disputed twenty dollar bill, or you know, like recently happened
Speaker 1: um pulling over a pregnant black mother with her children
Speaker 1: in the car and pulling their gun on her. Her
Speaker 1: entire pop culture like of you know, my favorite pop
Speaker 1: culture was like eighties movies where like die Hard was
Speaker 1: my favorite movie most of my life, and like that's
Speaker 1: just like a no nonsense cop who like is just
Speaker 1: there and using violence like at his own discretion. And like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the whole the whole thing is like built
Speaker 1: on that, and like that, I feel like that is
Speaker 1: a large part of Like it's not necessarily even the
Speaker 1: bureaucratic stuff as much as it's just like how deeply
Speaker 1: ingrained culturally so much of this ship is that like
Speaker 1: our ideas around safety, right, This is something we talked
Speaker 1: about with our guests yesterday, seth about like being able
Speaker 1: to break out of just like this sort of reflective
Speaker 1: thinking where people here most people say they hear defund
Speaker 1: the police. That means no police. That means violent dystopia.
Speaker 1: And that's the only that's the only conclusion from that term,
Speaker 1: from that phrase, rather than can we sit down and
Speaker 1: actually understand what the root causes of crime was crime?
Speaker 1: Are you wonder why people who are wealthy typically aren't
Speaker 1: the ones shoplifting or stealing cars because they have the
Speaker 1: means to these, aren't they don't commit survival crime? A
Speaker 1: lot of time we're just being like this is how
Speaker 1: people are surviving because they're excluded from the traditional economy.
Speaker 1: So that's what this looks like. Rather than yo, man,
Speaker 1: they need fucking you know, fucking aatling guns and ship
Speaker 1: and you know, bigger trucks and all this other ship
Speaker 1: and we kind of fall in this absurd problem solving
Speaker 1: mode when really it seems like the thing is public safety.
Speaker 1: How do we keep the public safe? And who does that?
Speaker 1: And there's probably there's so there's so much nuance to
Speaker 1: it that not everything has to be responded to with
Speaker 1: agro person that's armed to the fucking hill. Well, think
Speaker 1: about when you call the police. You don't call the
Speaker 1: police before violence has occurred. You don't call the police
Speaker 1: before property theft. You call the police after. How can
Speaker 1: we say then they prevent anything like that. It's just
Speaker 1: this weird backwards way of thinking about life in terms
Speaker 1: of punishment rather than a social network that gives people
Speaker 1: more options than two resort to petty theft or which is,
Speaker 1: you know, most of what the police are doing right now.
Speaker 1: For instance, there was something so it would be funny
Speaker 1: if it wasn't so fucking tragic. There is a picture
Speaker 1: of a black woman from a seven eleven camera and
Speaker 1: the police released it saying she's wanted for stealing a
Speaker 1: slim gem. Mhm. The resources alone going into that are
Speaker 1: fucking ridiculous. When a woman is stealing food, it makes
Speaker 1: me insane. It makes me really sad, And I think
Speaker 1: it's like the biggest just mold on our country. I
Speaker 1: think that's like the thing that when you feel that
Speaker 1: frustration is like really having to encourage people around you
Speaker 1: that to be like the option is in a dystopia,
Speaker 1: just so you know, because we're already there, the idea
Speaker 1: that you are exactly police even more in giving them
Speaker 1: more weapons. That's the fucking dystopia, not the version where
Speaker 1: cops are like solving certain kinds of crime while also
Speaker 1: like supporting human beings to try and elevate them out
Speaker 1: of situations that cause them to do what you know,
Speaker 1: the police called extra legal activity or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: just thin kind of white children. If white children of
Speaker 1: white people were being affected this way, if a white
Speaker 1: fifteen year old foster child had been tasted or shot,
Speaker 1: this conversation would not be radical at all. And the
Speaker 1: fact that it's radical just speaks directly to race. And
Speaker 1: I think you know when people were every you know,
Speaker 1: anyone with a working brain and heart was so horrified.
Speaker 1: But what was going on in the summer of even
Speaker 1: though it's what goes on all the time, but the
Speaker 1: fact that when you mentioned abolition people are defunding the police,
Speaker 1: people were acting like that was a radical reaction meant
Speaker 1: that they we're not looking at these people like their own.
Speaker 1: They were looking at these people like not my problem.
Speaker 1: It's already a dystopia for someone, you know, very dystopia
Speaker 1: for someone. It's a normal reaction to someone saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't a safe world. You know, this isn't a
Speaker 1: protection to me at all. Yeah, Miriam Kabba talks about
Speaker 1: abolition is not is about building something rather than removing something.
Speaker 1: It's about building social networks, not about just removing one
Speaker 1: part of the country, Yeah, which is our militarized police.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Alec Carrick Gtsands. I think another like
Speaker 1: kind of huge part of the edifice of like the
Speaker 1: pro police, like can't can't possibly imagine a reality without
Speaker 1: police is the way that the like local local media
Speaker 1: especially but I mean definitely the New York Times and
Speaker 1: you know national media as well, just use the police
Speaker 1: as an unquestioning the only source on like most most things,
Speaker 1: it's pretty fun and crazy. So go follow Eric Alec
Speaker 1: Karrick Gitsanus. He spends all his time and energy just
Speaker 1: going one news story after another, just be like all right,
Speaker 1: so here's here's another one. Yeah. Yeah. And he's also
Speaker 1: like runs a huge fund that helps fight human caging.
Speaker 1: So there there's another story that I think kind of
Speaker 1: of reminded me of this problem that so it's completely different,
Speaker 1: but it's another one of these institutions that is unquestionably
Speaker 1: just given carte blanche to like do whatever the funk
Speaker 1: at once. And that's like corporations, and just like corporations
Speaker 1: acting within a market. That there's this article from over
Speaker 1: the weekend where the Wall Street Journal like published thing
Speaker 1: Disney's new pricing magic more profit from fewer park visitors,
Speaker 1: and they're just like amazed. They're they're like speaking approvingly
Speaker 1: in economic terms about how the company has raised some
Speaker 1: prices and eliminated or started charging for other services and
Speaker 1: features that used to be free and calling it like
Speaker 1: pricing magic and the like The New York Times Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse was the one came up with a genius And
Speaker 1: The New York Times another thing that was like, well
Speaker 1: with Biden for giving student debt, like colleges are just
Speaker 1: going to charge more because now they can just like
Speaker 1: bacon that ten tho dollars into the price and that
Speaker 1: money goes to them and they don't have to like worry,
Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about it basically, and like
Speaker 1: that's just how they're like in both cases, it's companies
Speaker 1: doing what is objectively like if you know, just like
Speaker 1: bad bad ship, like taking advantage of the of the
Speaker 1: pandemic to like discriminated against Yeah, like using the magic
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. I'm sorry to discriminate against like the
Speaker 1: lower earning part of your consumer base. And then on
Speaker 1: the college front, it's like exacerbating a problem that we're
Speaker 1: already acknowledging as like a huge, massive problem in the country.
Speaker 1: But in both cases it's not treated as like a
Speaker 1: normative thing. It's like objective. They just treated as like
Speaker 1: an objective fact that this is corporations do. This is
Speaker 1: like smart business, and it's I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: very frustrating, and again it feels like the sort of
Speaker 1: thing that we've just lost the ability to imagine or
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not like these damn people like
Speaker 1: we've lost our imagination. It's that we've never been given
Speaker 1: an opportunity to imagine anything other than a world that
Speaker 1: is ruled by corporations and you know, market forces. No,
Speaker 1: they're definitely there in charge of the narrative. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're talking about Disney, which is a storyteller. You know,
Speaker 1: like it sounds paranoid, but it's or you know, like
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. But no, these are people who literally
Speaker 1: build the stories. That reminds me of Ivanka Trump saying
Speaker 1: that she knew more about working people than AOC and
Speaker 1: that she thought that that she knew that Americans want
Speaker 1: to work for their money, right, And I was wild,
Speaker 1: was like, that is the craziest thing I've ever fucking heard.
Speaker 1: As if like, the problem is like I want to
Speaker 1: work more like a woman, you know, a mother of
Speaker 1: five who works at the Walmart cash register, Like, actually
Speaker 1: her problem is that she hates tax cuts because she
Speaker 1: loves working there. Well, Ivanka is I actually have a
Speaker 1: bunch of Vanka quotes that I was gonna pull, but
Speaker 1: it sounds like yeah, no, no, no, Actually Caroline is here. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll actually do it after they leave. That's problem. I know.
Speaker 1: She's one of my favorite American philosophers. Yeah, it's just incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's throw there's um Ivanka, there's a kushion Ere. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Carolina Devon. Truly a pleasure having both of you on
Speaker 1: the daily. Like I said, know, you have to bounce
Speaker 1: a little bit early. Where can people find you? Follow you?
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Speaker 1: didn't blame it. We didn't blame him up top monster, cruel,
Speaker 1: cruel person, a cruel person, just kidding. He's a truly
Speaker 1: an angel on earth. Yeah, unbelievable. He wore a T
Speaker 1: shirt during the pandemic that said pay teachers more because
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Speaker 1: One of the first people we pitched it too was
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, your co host, who kicked us out of
Speaker 1: the room and he said, that's disgusting. No one's gonna
Speaker 1: want to hear about your failures and romance. So who's
Speaker 1: it going to be hosted by? Though, that's what I understand.
Speaker 1: Whether who are the two fellas you're going to bring
Speaker 1: into you know, I remember that too, when you're my
Speaker 1: life is actually stranger than if I even wrote it
Speaker 1: as fiction. And that, Yeah, that was enough. I think
Speaker 1: the cast still were Yeah, we do have so let
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Speaker 1: so happy that we got to jump on with you
Speaker 1: guys on We're huge fans of t DZ and um
Speaker 1: A cab. There you go, there you go. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, we'll be right back, just
Speaker 1: Miles and I just the just the dudes, and we're back.
Speaker 1: People are gonna think that, like guests fucking are stopped
Speaker 1: fucking with the show part way through. This might be
Speaker 1: our new format. This is two days in a row
Speaker 1: where our guests have had a heart out and we
Speaker 1: are are doing acts three just the boys, or it
Speaker 1: feels kind of like the boys are back in town.
Speaker 1: You energize. It feels like or like podcasts that do
Speaker 1: like an interview package and then like they have rats
Speaker 1: on either side they come back like that was a
Speaker 1: great interview. Huh. That was interesting. And one thing that
Speaker 1: Caroline said to me that I thought was so interesting
Speaker 1: before we started recording, that's like the NPR like format
Speaker 1: of how they I thought it was fascinating that their
Speaker 1: dynamic felt that they were actually in conflict, but that
Speaker 1: was it was just malful banter the whole time. I
Speaker 1: think that the rest is just us analyzing the part
Speaker 1: that just happened is so in the are that that
Speaker 1: is a great show though, Like it's like listening to
Speaker 1: them talk about their dating lives is like yegher than
Speaker 1: any round comma I've seen in a number of years.
Speaker 1: It's hard to compare to it has ah this very
Speaker 1: unique quality to it. We're like, they're not lying, and
Speaker 1: it's like Jesus and Marrow almost was like, this is
Speaker 1: not bullshit, and I love hearing it. It's um It's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite podcasts. Even though it's on our network.
Speaker 1: It feels like I'm lying, even it was really good. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk about where where Maga is at? Where is
Speaker 1: the Maga freakouts continue? They will continue. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of Look, the latest thing was Donald Trump got a
Speaker 1: new lawyer who used to be like the like the
Speaker 1: former solicitor of General in the state of Florida if
Speaker 1: you followed anything, He filed this motion to have a
Speaker 1: like a special the funk is it a special hold
Speaker 1: on motion? A special master. That's why I forgot it,
Speaker 1: because funk that word. He was looking for a special
Speaker 1: master to oversee the Mara logo documents search review, basically
Speaker 1: trying to like sort things out that might be privileged
Speaker 1: information that isn't relevant. They filed this like over two
Speaker 1: weeks after the raid ha happened. The deal She's like,
Speaker 1: We've already been through everything, so go ahead, and so
Speaker 1: they're like like nothing, here, We're fucking two weeks behind
Speaker 1: on sucking everything. And then on top of it, the
Speaker 1: RNC is still like, we are not paying your fucking
Speaker 1: legal bills. That's on you. This has been the situation
Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can't fucking you're not
Speaker 1: gonna bleed us dry with your fucking money. Also, they're
Speaker 1: also kind of concerned Trump might just suck off with
Speaker 1: all the money he's raised, like the Republicans, and then
Speaker 1: they'll be like that was for the fucking elections. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. So look, things are chaotic
Speaker 1: as usual. But first up, I just want to check
Speaker 1: in with some of the people in his orbit. The
Speaker 1: first is Bianca Garcia. Maybe you've heard of her, maybe
Speaker 1: you've seen her before. She is the head of Latinos
Speaker 1: for Trump. She is fucking pissed no longer for Trump, dude.
Speaker 1: She's like this guy turned his back on christ Um
Speaker 1: and she's coming at it as like a whole thing
Speaker 1: of like look at the chaos season, more of like
Speaker 1: trying to be like you see what happens when you
Speaker 1: funk with God kind of thing of like he stopped
Speaker 1: talking to us, He stopped trying to like I've stopped
Speaker 1: seeing evangelicals go visit him, so that's probably what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I just want to just want to play her
Speaker 1: clip because she's now basically saying like, it's a mess
Speaker 1: over there and it's a rap for me, And we're
Speaker 1: going to a clip where she's being interviewed by Don Johnson.
Speaker 1: This is her basically being like, man, what Trump needs
Speaker 1: to do is get God back in his life. So,
Speaker 1: because that's the X factor for all of this maga stuff,
Speaker 1: the g was for God. Obviously I'm doing something wrong.
Speaker 1: I need my spiritual leaders back in here. Spiritual leaders
Speaker 1: need to come back in here. We need to figure
Speaker 1: this out. We need to pray, We need strategy. I
Speaker 1: don't know what else to do. You need to go
Speaker 1: in your prayer closet, because let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: you don't want to put me in French Trump. The
Speaker 1: first thing I'd say to him is, sir, first of all,
Speaker 1: you I ain't even gonna talk to you because you
Speaker 1: need go on to pray. Close you and you find
Speaker 1: a close you better go get underneath and you better
Speaker 1: pray and repent for whatever it is, because you've offended
Speaker 1: the Lord you were chosen to lead this country, and
Speaker 1: you've offended him in some big way and that's why
Speaker 1: you're not in the White House right now. Okay, it
Speaker 1: is interesting. She does seem to be like there's a
Speaker 1: guy on like it's a split screen with her and
Speaker 1: somebody interviewing her, and he appears to be a fantasy
Speaker 1: football expert, but she just doesn't. He just not couldn't
Speaker 1: look less like he belongs in this thing, like a
Speaker 1: fantasy football expert on his way out to the club
Speaker 1: for the night. Wait, what makes him? I mean, I
Speaker 1: just like that as a slur in general, just to
Speaker 1: be like fantasy football expert. I don't know. But he
Speaker 1: got a pin striped pin striped jacket, like down hair
Speaker 1: makes me think fantasy football, and his like unshaven nous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pushed back hair, not back quite, but definitely pushed back.
Speaker 1: But but you know, she's she's been sort of I think,
Speaker 1: really trying to connect this thing of like he's he's
Speaker 1: turned his back on evangelicals, Like we're feeling some type
Speaker 1: of way this this is why he's he's not in office.
Speaker 1: So this is like the kind of stuff that's there's
Speaker 1: like a lot of debate as to why is Trump
Speaker 1: experiencing this negative streak right now. I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of what people wrapping their heads around. Then there's Trump himself.
Speaker 1: He's having a fucking real normal one on payless Twitter
Speaker 1: ak a truth social On Tuesday morning, he was shipp
Speaker 1: post ship posted like sixty times of all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: We're talking Q and on drops the fucking election theft memes,
Speaker 1: fucking four memes where like, ironically it's like, bro, in
Speaker 1: this meme, you are the fascist overlord based on like
Speaker 1: this George orwell quote. I don't know if you're connecting,
Speaker 1: but I guess you're listener or followers don't know about
Speaker 1: that either. Then even throwing out theories about January six
Speaker 1: that it was Antifa and the FBI who stormed the Capitol.
Speaker 1: So it's like the pace of it, the stuff that
Speaker 1: he was like real truth thing wherever the is called,
Speaker 1: it was just all copium. Like it was the kind
Speaker 1: of ship that he's like, yeah, see this person is
Speaker 1: saying this whacked out ship that that also helps me
Speaker 1: feel like I am not in the wrong. And the
Speaker 1: sort of pace it which he was doing it, it
Speaker 1: honestly felt like he really believed that if he reposts
Speaker 1: this bullshit enough, it will somehow get him out of trouble,
Speaker 1: like by amplifying like being like you see this person
Speaker 1: even thinks it's Orwellian incorrectly. I mean this, so like
Speaker 1: he he only really seems to be comfortable when he
Speaker 1: is in conflict. This is as much conflict as he's
Speaker 1: ever been in. And it feels like because like not
Speaker 1: to I don't give a final psycho analyze them like
Speaker 1: that's that's fine, He's analyze yeahs. Yeah, and he's pretty easy,
Speaker 1: Like he is a pathological narcissist who has always like
Speaker 1: felt inadequate, won't let that inadequacy rise to the level
Speaker 1: of conscious thought, and so he is just desperately filling
Speaker 1: that sucking hole where you know, self esteem usually goes
Speaker 1: for other people with accomplishments and conflict and words. And
Speaker 1: this just feels like, I don't know, it's what he's
Speaker 1: always been, like, this is how he's always lived his life,
Speaker 1: is just constantly arguing with people that he's the ship,
Speaker 1: even though he you know, is outwardly and evidently a
Speaker 1: con artist. And so it's like this is not going
Speaker 1: to stop until he's gone so like the like the
Speaker 1: worst it gets, the more in his element, he's going
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, and I think, but this is why
Speaker 1: it's it's just started getting out of control though now
Speaker 1: because the Republican like Fox News wasn't they didn't say
Speaker 1: shit about his claim. It's like that they really need
Speaker 1: to redo the election and proclaim him God King, like
Speaker 1: they didn't even touch that ship because they're like this,
Speaker 1: like it's bad. Ben Shapiro was even like they to
Speaker 1: get rid of him. The RNC cannot do this with Trump,
Speaker 1: like the Democrats want him on the ballot, and and
Speaker 1: and Independence are splitting four Democrats at a four to
Speaker 1: one rate. Because Trump is on the ballot, they have
Speaker 1: to get rid of him. He's even being like logical
Speaker 1: about it now, which is like you can't even like
Speaker 1: the elector the electoral politics, like it doesn't work. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll he'll come right back because I'm sure
Speaker 1: a plurality of magga people will be screaming at him.
Speaker 1: But just to go on along with all that Trump
Speaker 1: was calling for, like these uprisings to continue, like I
Speaker 1: don't we kind of touched on it on the Trending episode,
Speaker 1: but he's telling the FBI to fucking rise up now
Speaker 1: against the Department of Justice. He said on truth Social
Speaker 1: quote one of the great agents and others in the
Speaker 1: FBI going to say, we aren't gonna take it anymore
Speaker 1: as much as they did. When James Comey read off
Speaker 1: a list of all cricket Hillary Clinton's crimes only to
Speaker 1: say that no reasonable prosecute, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute,
Speaker 1: the wonderful people of the FBI went absolutely nuts. So
Speaker 1: Comey had to backtrack and do a fake investor gage
Speaker 1: in order to keep them at bay. So I don't
Speaker 1: remember this really there to lead up to the investigation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: was like Comy first was like, man, there's nothing to
Speaker 1: see here. Then there was like the Anthony Weener laptop thing.
Speaker 1: Eleven days before the election, he said they reopened the investor.
Speaker 1: That was the time they reopened the investigation. I don't
Speaker 1: remember the narrative that it was actually FBI rank and
Speaker 1: file who like caused that was that this is just
Speaker 1: maybe like what he's hearing, or is that like a
Speaker 1: story that's been told anything. It was more like there
Speaker 1: were there was more to say that, like people who
Speaker 1: were sympathetic to Rudy Giuliani were pushing for the reopening
Speaker 1: of the investigation to make it seem like there was
Speaker 1: something there. When ultimately Comy came back, it was like
Speaker 1: after like, look, if there was a crime, we could
Speaker 1: tell you what it was. But it was just it's
Speaker 1: just more of like sloppiness versus like wilfully taking sensitive
Speaker 1: documents away. It's like she shouldn't have had a fucking
Speaker 1: email server, etcetera, etcetera. Like we're having trouble finding a
Speaker 1: cry I'm that aligns with that. Were like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: need to enforce this, which is sort of why that
Speaker 1: fizzled out, And I think that's why now incorrectly, a
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans are saying, well, this was a thing
Speaker 1: about mishandling documents and she wasn't prosecuted, so therefore the
Speaker 1: precedent is that you don't prosecute these like mishandled documents cases.
Speaker 1: But they're not even comparable when you look at the
Speaker 1: statutes that are involved. So whatever that's that's just sort
Speaker 1: of like because also when you ask them, plenty of
Speaker 1: people will, you know, hypothesize what Trump may be doing
Speaker 1: with these documents, right, I've heard it we're like, we've
Speaker 1: remember there was in twenty seventeen a c I A
Speaker 1: asset had to be like fucking extracted very quickly because
Speaker 1: the Kremlin was like looking for them. The numbers are
Speaker 1: way up on CIA assets like getting got yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: So there's that they're like he could it could be this,
Speaker 1: it could be nuclear stuff. With Hillary, all they kept
Speaker 1: saying was she has these emails, like they nobody has
Speaker 1: a specific go a step further, what's the can cry like,
Speaker 1: what is it? And I think that's another thing that
Speaker 1: sort of shows the sort of difference in it is
Speaker 1: that they can only take their argument as close to well,
Speaker 1: she had these emails and and again I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to say like I'm sighting with anyone, but I'm like
Speaker 1: they're just on as an argument. This doesn't look right.
Speaker 1: So and if it wasn't getting worse for Trump, he's
Speaker 1: also telling people that he might sue Rhonda Santis for
Speaker 1: like fucking ripping off his whole style, which is true.
Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis. It's interesting, like it it's you're watching how
Speaker 1: like one influential person can like influence unspoken like just
Speaker 1: weird things that like everybody is now doing a Trump
Speaker 1: impression in very in small little ways like that make
Speaker 1: them feel powerful. Like we saw we saw Ted Cruise
Speaker 1: trying to bite his like devil make hair, like I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck attitude, where he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm Ted Cruise, and my pronouns or kiss my ass
Speaker 1: and the like. He had his like body language ready
Speaker 1: to go, and it just felt like it was just
Speaker 1: like yo, I thought he's about to be let's go
Speaker 1: right after that punchline, let's go. But yeah, he's From
Speaker 1: this ling Stone article quote when Trump has seen video
Speaker 1: clips of de Santis speaking of public events over the
Speaker 1: past year and a half, the former president has scornfully
Speaker 1: mocked the ascendant Florida Republican for appearing to imitate Trump's
Speaker 1: body language movements and even at times speaking rhythm. One
Speaker 1: of the other sources recalled Trump joking at a dinner
Speaker 1: that he had to sue him for copyright infringement. Okay,
Speaker 1: I used to think that DeSantis was a real threat
Speaker 1: to Trump. I do not think that anymore. I actually
Speaker 1: think that if Trump runs, which the only thing is
Speaker 1: going to stop him is death, He's going to kick DeSantis.
Speaker 1: The only threat that he poses that he's probably not
Speaker 1: bound for any kind of legal trouble, and that by
Speaker 1: virtue of that may just leave him at top of
Speaker 1: the pile. Yeah, last man standing because his numbers were
Speaker 1: going up. But the second the Mara Lago thing happened,
Speaker 1: everybody fell right back. They're like, yeah, actually, I'm sucking
Speaker 1: with Trump again. I'm with Trump again. Forgot about that.
Speaker 1: We're victims, were victims. Forgot about that. God. So I
Speaker 1: know it sounds like everything like hooray, everything's going well,
Speaker 1: but it isn't because news Max is doing their best
Speaker 1: to keep the fucking voter base motivated, because that's been
Speaker 1: another huge thing is like we're we're gonna get fucking
Speaker 1: rinched in the mid terms, is what Republicans are saying
Speaker 1: to each other on fucking news Max. The anchor there
Speaker 1: created like a mnemonic device to try and like keep
Speaker 1: viewers engaged and to like actually ignore all the Mara
Speaker 1: Lago stuff, like trying to find a way to reconnect
Speaker 1: News Max viewers and the Republican base like with their
Speaker 1: outrage to motivate them to vote. And I just want
Speaker 1: to play this because it's like fascist sesame Street and
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play this. This guy throws up a
Speaker 1: whole phrase and it breaks down like as a fucking
Speaker 1: on it device focus on, especially as the mid terms approach. Okay,
Speaker 1: wag Joe kass Biden. Alright, let's start. WAG stands for
Speaker 1: wag woke stuff, Afghanistan and gas prices. Okay, let's not
Speaker 1: forget those things. We're not going to but remember these
Speaker 1: are the issues, not moral lago. Next, not wag Joe
Speaker 1: kaos Biden got that, folks, wag woke Afghanistan, gas talking
Speaker 1: to like this seems like a speech for like Republican
Speaker 1: interns or something. This is just like soldiers. This is
Speaker 1: so revealing that this is the way in which they're
Speaker 1: trying to do it too. Let's go Jack. We only
Speaker 1: got to one part of Let's go to Joe. What
Speaker 1: does that stand for? Uh? Justice Department oppresses enemies. Thanks,
Speaker 1: long before moral Lago, people like Paul Manaford, the tow
Speaker 1: people who just got busted for I guess reading Ashley
Speaker 1: Biden's diary, are you serious? Moment is doing so? Uh
Speaker 1: Justice suppress his enemies? Next chaos? What does the chaos
Speaker 1: stand for? Let's try crime hunter, Yeah, hunter, Shenatigans, the
Speaker 1: approval rating. Yeah, it's terrible obscenity and the supply chain
Speaker 1: we know about. What is obscenity. Obscenity for me is
Speaker 1: thrusting upon children, talk about gender, transgender, all this hyper
Speaker 1: sexualization of children that should not be happening. And Joe
Speaker 1: in large part is responsible. He's doing nothing to push back.
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he Let's get to Biden, because we've
Speaker 1: got chaos. Is Biden borders, we have non inflation, of course, disunity.
Speaker 1: Our energy is gone, and no one respects us around
Speaker 1: the world. Everybody has like the So this is like
Speaker 1: a type of like for for whatever reason, and like,
Speaker 1: I've struggled with mental illness, and I've been around a
Speaker 1: lot of people who struggle with mental illness, and like,
Speaker 1: this is a thing that people who are struggling love
Speaker 1: to do, is the acronyms and be like energy good,
Speaker 1: orderly energy direction and just like and like it doesn't
Speaker 1: totally make sense. And sometimes they will claim that that's
Speaker 1: actually where the word comes from, but it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so desperate that you've now in whatever news room said
Speaker 1: clearly right, if you do this, you can reverse engineer
Speaker 1: the discussion that has happened because his whole the thrust
Speaker 1: of this was we have to connect the fucking base
Speaker 1: to why they don't like Joe Biden, because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of them are actually really worried about the
Speaker 1: student loan debt forgiveness, like that affects people that aren't
Speaker 1: just voting Democrat and they're talking points as they go
Speaker 1: on TV or being like these lazy fucking baristas with
Speaker 1: their basket weaving degrees and people like, hey, asshole, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm I got a degree for whatever I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't fault like this is made up.
Speaker 1: I got a degree to better myself and now you're
Speaker 1: telling me I'm a degenerate. That isn't working well. So
Speaker 1: they they're like, we need something that is going to
Speaker 1: make them realize Biden bad. We don't like Byron So
Speaker 1: now it's fucking wag woke Afghanistan gas prices as like
Speaker 1: as much as MSNBC, like CNN like plays like that
Speaker 1: have been in the bag for the mainstream like Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: Like you can't possibly imagine them doing a infomercial like
Speaker 1: here are your talking points like training video like what
Speaker 1: that was? That's wild Jesus. Yeah, so they're having a
Speaker 1: normal one, and I think it's just like they're still
Speaker 1: figuring out what to do. Like everyone's pulling in many
Speaker 1: different directions. Some Republicans are silent, others are going pedal
Speaker 1: to the metal defending him Lindsey Graham Yeah, and others
Speaker 1: are merely just coming up with good acronyms. M alright, well,
Speaker 1: Miles as always such a pleasure working with you. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? And what is the tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Oh man, you can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray also checked me out
Speaker 1: on Miles and Jack got mad Boostie's yeah not just
Speaker 1: a clever name and also four twenty day fiance. Some
Speaker 1: tweets that I like. Oh man, there's some good ones.
Speaker 1: Uh first one, well, well, well this is from at
Speaker 1: Hex and Brenner to H three x E N B
Speaker 1: R E N N E R two treated well, well,
Speaker 1: well look who's come crawling back? If it isn't my
Speaker 1: one year old son I accidentally left at the park.
Speaker 1: Uh Brow at Brow tweeting tweeted, boss, you have to
Speaker 1: take a drug test. Me knows all the drugs, No problem,
Speaker 1: and then Brandon Dale at a weary tweeted me before
Speaker 1: having kids, I'm never going to lie to my children,
Speaker 1: me to day, to my toddler, they don't have hot
Speaker 1: dogs in Colorado. That really resonated with me. I've told
Speaker 1: many crazy lives. I mean, it's is that why the
Speaker 1: fucking Odin Kirk? I think you should leave ice cream?
Speaker 1: Got doubles of everything. Sketch resonates so hard because you
Speaker 1: tell you like a lie that seems harmless, but then
Speaker 1: like the guy just like doubles triples down, and like
Speaker 1: kids actually do that ship sometimes too, where they'll just
Speaker 1: like follow the logic train on your ask and you're
Speaker 1: just like, oh god, damn it. All right, never mind,
Speaker 1: Let's see some tweets I've been enjoying. Is Sarah Lebou
Speaker 1: tweeted medicine is such a beautiful name for a square garden.
Speaker 1: I just appreciated. And human Eron tweeted wire self checkouts
Speaker 1: ever closed in my own break and then I have
Speaker 1: the Colorado one. Yeah. Uh. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on
Speaker 1: Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at d Daily Zeitgeist on
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Speaker 1: foot note where we link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song
Speaker 1: do we think people might enjoy? Oh? I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy this track weight and I just lost it.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, this is gonna be. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: out on more Pokemon. I love pot Kemon p A
Speaker 1: c h y M n uh. He's an artist who
Speaker 1: plays like really dope reggae tracks, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: they are like he's been rummaging through vinyl, but that's
Speaker 1: him recording everything to tape, playing all the instruments. It's
Speaker 1: really good. This is in another track called Towards the Mountain,
Speaker 1: which I just like the title of that because remind
Speaker 1: me at podcast, just keep the mountain in front of
Speaker 1: you and if you walk towards it, you'll get there eventually.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, Pachima towards the Mountain alright. Well. The
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