Speaker 1: Guess what. Everybody only forty seven days until the start
Speaker 1: of the new season, and guess what. It's officially NBA
Speaker 1: Defense Week, and we're celebrating some of the all time
Speaker 1: greatest defenders and some news and notes from around the
Speaker 1: league with former assistant coach with the Nets, former video
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Grizzlies, and current co host of the
Speaker 1: highly entertaining and informative Dunker Spot podcast Steve Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: Is in the building. I'm Miles Break and I'm Jack
Speaker 1: O'Brien and this is there. It is Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1: You were racing me that time, little stinker. Well, let's
Speaker 1: bring in our guests. Steve Jones Jr. May know him
Speaker 1: as an analyst on Basketball News Again, former assistant coach
Speaker 1: and Nets and video coordinator the Grizzlies, Steve Jones Junior.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How are you, ma? I'm doing
Speaker 1: good man, how y'all doing? Happy to be here? Fantastic
Speaker 1: And listen to that voice maybe radio and podcast, Holy
Speaker 1: cal you got a voice changer on there. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of dumins and water.
Speaker 1: How tall you six to on a good day? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: bad day? On a bad day, five three eleven on
Speaker 1: a bad day. So all right, I have this theory
Speaker 1: that I want to ask you about, straight up, right
Speaker 1: out the gate. That video coordinator is like sneaky good
Speaker 1: prep for being just like all around basketball galaxy brain
Speaker 1: because you imbibe more like NBA basketball than anyone else. Um, well,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that? As a former video coordinator,
Speaker 1: your theory is correct. Yeah, So no matter which pathway
Speaker 1: you go, if you go to coach and you go
Speaker 1: to the front office, you have been forced to watch
Speaker 1: the game in a different way, consistently, over and over
Speaker 1: and over again, night and night out. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: get the prep, you get the reps, your brain grows,
Speaker 1: you see the game, your spot on there unless you
Speaker 1: for some reason it doesn't stick. But yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're a video coordinator, you you're you got a
Speaker 1: different brain, a different mindset. Yeah, I did. Frank Vogel
Speaker 1: was a video coordinator. Spoh, Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins. If
Speaker 1: you want to see you know, if you if you
Speaker 1: want to use this information to invest in the future
Speaker 1: of a young coach who hasn't done anyet Taylor Jenkins.
Speaker 1: So I don't know Frank Vogel used to be the
Speaker 1: video coordinator for my dad when he was a coach
Speaker 1: with the Celtics, and I like was interning with them
Speaker 1: one year and he just like couldn't understand how I
Speaker 1: was so stupid. He was like trying to show me
Speaker 1: how he broke down the film and I was just
Speaker 1: like he's like, so right here, all right, freeze it.
Speaker 1: You know exactly what play it's going to be, right,
Speaker 1: And like the guy was like bringing the ball up
Speaker 1: and like one person had entered the paint and I
Speaker 1: was like, uh, the running motion. He was like, no, man, no,
Speaker 1: that's all right. He's that's really your dad. That's your dad. Really, yeah, man. Actually,
Speaker 1: like I think had I had the remember when he
Speaker 1: was talking about I forget what the editing software was,
Speaker 1: but it was like in the eighties, like right when
Speaker 1: it was coming out and in nineties when he was
Speaker 1: working with the University of Kentucky and he was like
Speaker 1: early on the editing machine under under Patino. So he
Speaker 1: he also got a lot of reps like cutting like tape,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Oh. If you hear the stories about the
Speaker 1: actual cutting and editing of like tape, it's see I
Speaker 1: was like, how did y'all do that? Like I'm not
Speaker 1: complaining about just trying to shuffle some things around here
Speaker 1: on a computer that really had to like yeah, have
Speaker 1: it is what he was like saying that he was
Speaker 1: talking about it before, like I had heard that, not
Speaker 1: now it's like everybody's worked on before. Yeah, well I mean,
Speaker 1: but that's yeah, that's like what people were like the
Speaker 1: only way you could edit television and film back then,
Speaker 1: where's like on an average system. And it wasn't like
Speaker 1: today where it's like, yeah, I can fire up my
Speaker 1: laptop and cut this video. It's like you had to
Speaker 1: go to what they called an avid bay just even
Speaker 1: operate that. Yeah, And now I feel I do feel
Speaker 1: like like speaking of what kids have access to today,
Speaker 1: like um we we talk on here the like it
Speaker 1: feels like basketball is progressive and like they each year
Speaker 1: like players are building on what people were doing the
Speaker 1: previous season and like getting better, just like showing new angles.
Speaker 1: And I do feel like the young players today grew
Speaker 1: up with like a closer approximation to what a video
Speaker 1: coordinator had like ten years ago than ever before, just
Speaker 1: because YouTube is like so just like loaded with so
Speaker 1: much film, like you could just watch film on any
Speaker 1: player you want, like all day. So, I don't know,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? No? I agree. I
Speaker 1: mean you could YouTube almost anyone across the world. I
Speaker 1: remember even when I was in the video room to
Speaker 1: do some of the overseas prospects, it was still like
Speaker 1: double triple top secret ways to get the DVD and
Speaker 1: then try and find it and then make sure it
Speaker 1: was the right team and all that good stuff, and
Speaker 1: then you got to look up the roster to make
Speaker 1: sure you got the right person, because that's the whole
Speaker 1: nightmare if you cut the wrong minutes up and it's
Speaker 1: like he's not on the court. But yeah, they got
Speaker 1: a whole lot more. They could see a whole lot more,
Speaker 1: They could do a whole lot more. And it's a
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful part because now you can kind of
Speaker 1: see more of the older players, and even I could have,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen them. You can look at a highlight compilation,
Speaker 1: you can get the where she bass was a problem
Speaker 1: at any time you want. You can look up at
Speaker 1: any player. Actually, accept me. I I actually had the
Speaker 1: NBA scrub every video of me trying to play basketball,
Speaker 1: just because I felt like it was going to, you know,
Speaker 1: throw the title of their show and me having that
Speaker 1: boost ease into you know, the clips that were out
Speaker 1: there just weren't very one sided, you know, more of
Speaker 1: a five ten day than a six two days you honestly,
Speaker 1: I like you were saying, I think they put that
Speaker 1: rim up at twelve feet Yeah, felt like that. I
Speaker 1: would try and kick it to get it up high enough,
Speaker 1: punting it from the three point line, Like what is
Speaker 1: this doing? But the two of you, I would say,
Speaker 1: have grown up around basketball, obviously your whole lives. You
Speaker 1: being the son of the late great Steve Snapper Jones
Speaker 1: and Jack, You and your dad and like grandfather like
Speaker 1: you come from. You know, you've lived and breathe around basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm curious, you know, Steve being around the game so much,
Speaker 1: like what like Jack always has these wild stories. I'm
Speaker 1: like what, like what how do you know these things?
Speaker 1: Or why are you experiencing those things? Like for you
Speaker 1: would have been some sort of like sort of standout moments,
Speaker 1: whether during your time playing or beyond or just being
Speaker 1: in and around the game that will make us the
Speaker 1: normal people jealous of your proximity to the King. The
Speaker 1: toughest part about that is Usually most of my stories
Speaker 1: come either a around beat people or be when something
Speaker 1: pops up, so like I like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: will be in a conversation so you mentioned someone, and
Speaker 1: I'll pop in a memory and actually drop something and
Speaker 1: they'll be like, what do you mean I'm like and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's not really a thing. Like
Speaker 1: I just like, how's that practice the other day? And
Speaker 1: you know, Zach Randolf was doing this and people would
Speaker 1: be like, what do you mean you talk to Zach Randolf.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yes, that's how that's how this works,
Speaker 1: or like it's it's more funny to kind of sometimes
Speaker 1: you forget I guess in talking that you have experienced
Speaker 1: some of these things that I was kind of just
Speaker 1: wild and then like I remember, it was just tough
Speaker 1: to relate. Like when I was working in the league
Speaker 1: as an assistant coach, no one wanted to hear about
Speaker 1: my problems, which I understood, totally got it, but it
Speaker 1: was like, I can't bring my work problems to you
Speaker 1: because you'd be like your job is dope, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: r right, You're like who can hands with who? And
Speaker 1: like never mind? Yeah, all the ones like immediately come
Speaker 1: to mind. When people are like, what's your best story?
Speaker 1: I feel like they're once the NBA would want want
Speaker 1: to leave on the cutting room floor for the most part.
Speaker 1: Well also too, I feel like you you're a anecdotes
Speaker 1: probably to your point to Steve or like the kind
Speaker 1: of thing where off handedly just triggers a memory and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, wait, I have something to say about
Speaker 1: this that you've never heard. Pretty much like I just
Speaker 1: I got to the point where I just remember that
Speaker 1: Tim Legler found me at the NBA Jam session in
Speaker 1: the All Star weekend in San Antonio. I wasn't lying,
Speaker 1: I told you, they just pop up. Wait, what do
Speaker 1: you mean he found you? He found lost? I was lost.
Speaker 1: I was doing something. I was wandering around. I went
Speaker 1: to go to one booth and I couldn't find my
Speaker 1: mom and then tim Legler found me. Wow, probably back
Speaker 1: to my mom. So yeah, that's what. Wait, was this
Speaker 1: like when he was like in a three point contest
Speaker 1: or something that all start? This was this was Washington
Speaker 1: tim Legler? Heater? Yeah, I got everything for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a looking after How old were you at the time? E?
Speaker 1: Eight or nine? Eight or nine? I was young. I
Speaker 1: was young enough for it to make sense. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: right right, It was like two you know, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just really missed my mom. And are you a
Speaker 1: Blazers fan now? Is that your squad? I was a
Speaker 1: full time Blazer fan. I will always love the Blazers,
Speaker 1: But as far as the fan, that was my team,
Speaker 1: that was my squad, that was my go to. It
Speaker 1: ended probably right around the end of the Odin era
Speaker 1: was where the fan the fan hat came off. And
Speaker 1: then I started working in the league. But through college, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a massive Blazers fan, massively disappointed for the
Speaker 1: majority of my life. Yeah, we sure made the playoffs
Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, man, So do you like root
Speaker 1: for scenario as you root for players? Like what what
Speaker 1: do you what? What are you hoping for this season?
Speaker 1: In general? Yeah, I like a good story. I like
Speaker 1: to see teams grow. I like to see teams perform. Well,
Speaker 1: I like redemption arcs. You know, so if Kauhi were
Speaker 1: to come back and do something crazy, I'd be fun.
Speaker 1: If Lebron hits another peak of job rate takes another leap,
Speaker 1: Like it's fun to watch young players developed from one
Speaker 1: thing to the next, and then they really start to
Speaker 1: get it and starts to click, and then you see
Speaker 1: that success in the playoffs. It's also fun to see
Speaker 1: like the greats just be great. Like what step Grade
Speaker 1: did last year was great. It was fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And so for me, just feed me all of the
Speaker 1: good basketball you can and I'll parse that what I
Speaker 1: want as opposed to know I need this to happen.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of a bummer way to
Speaker 1: watch the game sometimes, right, Yeah, man, I like how
Speaker 1: you're almost talking like like Doctor Manhattan and The Watchman
Speaker 1: where it's like, I don't engage with your sport on
Speaker 1: a level so tortured, But do you wan? I know,
Speaker 1: you know the Watchman. Better know the Watchman Man, Doctor Manhattan,
Speaker 1: the big blue naked man who is so wise. But like,
Speaker 1: do you find yourself like ever regressing to having that
Speaker 1: instinct as a fan? I know, because you watch so
Speaker 1: much basketball and you engage with it in it's like
Speaker 1: a slightly different way, but just part of you still
Speaker 1: kind of have that like a little bit of heart flutter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely so. Like I remember a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, Carmelo Anthony du dunk out of nowhere. I
Speaker 1: lost my mine, but you can still get me like,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, bow tie do any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: It takes a little bit to give me your kind
Speaker 1: of stick in my bubble a little bit. Maybe I
Speaker 1: should loosen up, right, Um, I don't know, there's there's
Speaker 1: so many hot takes. I just kind of just stay
Speaker 1: in the corner with some mild sauce like I'm fine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I root against the hitters. That's the only real rooting
Speaker 1: interest I have other than the seventies sixers, which uh
Speaker 1: is my own crust to bear. That's called self hatred.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, hey, live your truth. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: should we take a quick break, come back, talk about defense.
Speaker 1: Defense it's as I like to call it, and then
Speaker 1: clapped twice after let's do it and we're back. And
Speaker 1: so we're getting into prediction season. It feels like a
Speaker 1: lot of people starting to make their calls, at least
Speaker 1: on like the NBA read it, and I was just
Speaker 1: like looking back at the predictions heading into last season,
Speaker 1: and the thing that it feels like people rarely take
Speaker 1: into account because it's really hard to predict, is like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this team is going to take a huge step up
Speaker 1: because of how like great they are on defense, Like
Speaker 1: the Celtics became unstoppable once they like locked in and
Speaker 1: became like one of the best defensive teams of all time.
Speaker 1: You know, the Warriors stayed good on defense, but like
Speaker 1: you know, the Grizzlies, I feel like some teams that
Speaker 1: figured it out defensively, we're unexpectedly good. And then the
Speaker 1: Nix and Lakers got worse on d and like everybody
Speaker 1: was pretty disappointed by how they performed. So true, I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's all just preamble too. It is
Speaker 1: NBA defense. We and it's hard to predict and it's
Speaker 1: hard to predict who's going to be good. But I
Speaker 1: do feel good about Tible, Like we we were just
Speaker 1: kind of looking back at all time great defensive performances
Speaker 1: and some highlight films, and Bible was like one of
Speaker 1: the most fun defensive highlight reels because he just comes
Speaker 1: out of like comes at the ball in such weird
Speaker 1: angles and it's like blocking you from behind and just
Speaker 1: like tapping the ball in places that, like you you
Speaker 1: haven't really seen people do that often. Um On the
Speaker 1: prediction front, like the t Wolves obviously are the one
Speaker 1: team that like demonstrably got better on defense in a
Speaker 1: way that like really seems to like shore up some
Speaker 1: of the some of the issues they had in the past.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. Do you want to look
Speaker 1: at some of our favorite defensive moments perhaps, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'd hate to do this first, but speaking
Speaker 1: of the Trailblazers, Roy, Yeah, this is a this is
Speaker 1: a Lebron highlight that I hadn't seen before because it's
Speaker 1: I think they call it goaltending, right, Yeah, there was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's some debate about that. I think it may
Speaker 1: have been on the way. I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but this was definitely considered the block of the night
Speaker 1: then and now is the first time since come on,
Speaker 1: that's coming down. I think it's it's a at its peak,
Speaker 1: it's a floater. So it's hard to tell. Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what they called it, so, which is why it's
Speaker 1: not ranked as like the greatest defensive play. But Lebron
Speaker 1: comes across the lane and block it's a floater. At
Speaker 1: the peak of it, the heart um, and his head
Speaker 1: is like above the rim. It's it's pretty cool, is there? Like,
Speaker 1: how did they ever measure who can actually like get
Speaker 1: their arm at the highest point in the league. Sure
Speaker 1: they helped combined with their vertical but like I would
Speaker 1: also watch that as like an All Star event. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like who's like like when you're a kid walking through
Speaker 1: a parking structure and you're trying to touch one of
Speaker 1: the overhanging concrete pill right, all right, we got Hakim
Speaker 1: blocking Kemp like five times. Kim was you hear about
Speaker 1: the dream shake? But yeah, this is probably one of
Speaker 1: my favorite displays because this right here twice in a
Speaker 1: row Sean camp, he really went he got rejected once,
Speaker 1: he went straight back with the comments like maybe that
Speaker 1: guy who just bucked me is not there anymore. He's
Speaker 1: still there, Sean, and he would waiting for you said okay,
Speaker 1: I'll eat that too, somebody, and then the I think
Speaker 1: what that was the on his way to the fifth
Speaker 1: on them? Yeah, yeah, I mean Kemp's used to coming
Speaker 1: down and just yoking, but this was one. I mean
Speaker 1: he had he had that like kind of sneaky subtle
Speaker 1: block on count on starts in the in the finals
Speaker 1: that year. But this is rude. These are not subtle.
Speaker 1: These are yeah, those are allowed and mean uh not
Speaker 1: not nice. This is me playing with like small kids
Speaker 1: and not caring if people are crying because I'm a
Speaker 1: pathetic adult who's like, you know what, good that out too? Yeah,
Speaker 1: working some stuff out here in this driveway. It's not pathetic,
Speaker 1: it's just mentally healthy. You You just like to, you know,
Speaker 1: get get yourself into a good headspace before we record
Speaker 1: our NBA podcast. Look, the parents on my block are like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta go easy on my kids. Man, Like, you
Speaker 1: don't have to dunk on my three year old. He's
Speaker 1: really getting out there. Um. But I'm curious for you, Steve,
Speaker 1: Like you know, we're looking at these and kind of laugh.
Speaker 1: We all have our like they're all things that draw
Speaker 1: us to defensive play. But for you, what's your what
Speaker 1: are you looking for? And who do you put on
Speaker 1: your all time? Let's say let's go first, let's zoom
Speaker 1: out and say all times, like you know, retired players,
Speaker 1: who do you have there? In terms of the people
Speaker 1: you really uh, you really admire? I have five perimeter defenders,
Speaker 1: have five big defenders. How about that? Wow? I came
Speaker 1: half prepared. Yeah, and it is more prepared than us.
Speaker 1: So please, now you're carrying the show. Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for joining us on. As far as my perimeter defenders,
Speaker 1: I had Gary Payton, I had Sydney Montcreef, had Scottie Pippen,
Speaker 1: I had Michael Jordan's had Tony Out. Okay, those are
Speaker 1: my five best primeter defenders, most of those, most of them,
Speaker 1: two of them at least. But I just I always
Speaker 1: value the guys who get after them like I love effort,
Speaker 1: I love right ball, pressure, activity. I could do multiple
Speaker 1: things you can't score on me, and if you do,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. So those are the people I
Speaker 1: used to gravitate too. Is the big though. You had
Speaker 1: to go Bill Russell team obviously k g uh, Tim Duncan,
Speaker 1: and I went Draymond Green. Wow, yeah, Draymond. Raymond's hands
Speaker 1: are uh. I'd say it's sight to behold, but like
Speaker 1: you never see him coming and you know it's just
Speaker 1: the ball is loose all of a sudden sneaking in there.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons I enjoy like nerd ing
Speaker 1: out is that I can hopefully show more people what
Speaker 1: Draymond Green does defensively because this a lot because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people like, well, he doesn't really
Speaker 1: get up vertically or whatever, and they look at these
Speaker 1: like very myopic things, like but yeah, he's all over
Speaker 1: the place and he is talking about reading the matrix.
Speaker 1: It is a little frustrating sometimes I'm like, this guy
Speaker 1: is again like already has like, well, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of three things right now, and I'm ready to
Speaker 1: react to any of them. And then it's off, and
Speaker 1: I think that's yet. It is pretty breathtaking to watch
Speaker 1: can be got through a brain and Roy block out
Speaker 1: in front of my face. You know, I just had
Speaker 1: to see if you were a fan still. We were
Speaker 1: kind of we were priming that. We're like, he said,
Speaker 1: he's not a fan anymore. Let's see if again. If
Speaker 1: the heart flutters, I'm sorry we had to do that.
Speaker 1: That was a look. I my heart goes out to
Speaker 1: you because I was very excited for that team too. Uh.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's all right. You learned, you learned
Speaker 1: how to handle the triggers inside. It's right, it's all
Speaker 1: growth here, it's all growth. Jack. You got five of each?
Speaker 1: Or did you have? I know, I know he's got
Speaker 1: some current pointers. He's got some current pointerers. I got
Speaker 1: some Yeah, young guys, who get me get me worked up?
Speaker 1: Her jones. We've talked about on the show a number
Speaker 1: of times, but I was looking at his highlights and
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, so this is third third year
Speaker 1: in the league, Like how did but he blocked so
Speaker 1: many threes? Like it's he's he's all over the place.
Speaker 1: I mean it helps that his arms are you know,
Speaker 1: the length of most humans full length bodies. Um, but
Speaker 1: he yeah, he he's a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I love watching a three pointer get blocked. There's just
Speaker 1: something so unexpected about it happening. And he he blocks
Speaker 1: them convincingly a lot of the times, and sometimes he
Speaker 1: just like grabs them and he's like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: taking the ball now. That was That was cute that
Speaker 1: Drew Holiday also really enjoying. I mean, I just I
Speaker 1: like the defenders to who are like hungry. But also
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like there's any wasted movement. You know
Speaker 1: that they're they're not like having to shuffle their feet.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, I know where each foot is gonna go.
Speaker 1: I know if I have to leap with this foot
Speaker 1: or this foot or this arm or this arm, that
Speaker 1: there's something I don't know, like you're saying, yeah, smooth
Speaker 1: or just very calculated that they're truly like reading the
Speaker 1: game or watching getting these like watching these passing lanes
Speaker 1: just get cut like milliseconds before. And you know that's
Speaker 1: also that makes my list of modern people for sure.
Speaker 1: I wish all time. I will always say Ben Wallace
Speaker 1: as a Laker fan always frustrated me. And I was
Speaker 1: always like, this man is from some other dimension. He
Speaker 1: is so like he just looked like he's like, man,
Speaker 1: this is this is it. This is Ben Wallace. I
Speaker 1: was always joking like it seems like a phase of
Speaker 1: evolution that we got to this point was like we
Speaker 1: we got there was the Ben Wallace phase of like
Speaker 1: physical humanity, uh that we don't see so much anymore.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm always looking down for him. Oh Jabari
Speaker 1: is asking where does prime run our test fact to
Speaker 1: be a good estimate, he was very good, very physical.
Speaker 1: He's very good. And this is a problem with these lists.
Speaker 1: You're going to disrespect somebody look that and we're not
Speaker 1: here to do that. We like, from your perspective, this
Speaker 1: isn't the safe because I said it. Everything else doesn't.
Speaker 1: You know, it's of thank you. That was like I
Speaker 1: was concerned for a second the league was going to
Speaker 1: have to publish what we said and rave it on
Speaker 1: outside every arena, so we'll be all right. Kobe has
Speaker 1: to be mentioned. There's this highlight that I think the
Speaker 1: Sports center guy Scott's his face glasses, Scott vamp held
Speaker 1: uh did did like an anniversary look at this second
Speaker 1: half in the finals when a I put up sixteen
Speaker 1: in the first half, was just on his way to
Speaker 1: his like thirty two um and then Kobe took him
Speaker 1: for the second half, and the highlight package is wild,
Speaker 1: like he's blocking and deflecting everything. He's like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: just like not getting a clean look at all, and
Speaker 1: it really like, you know that that was the thing
Speaker 1: that people were saying about Kobe right away, is like
Speaker 1: he's young, but he's also like such a lockdown defender
Speaker 1: and just like cares so much. Shrink rap, shrink wrap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Holiday Caruso is a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Miss him. I know, I didn't want to. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it to you. I mean, look, I yeah,
Speaker 1: I love watching him. I miss his his heart. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, before this, I was joking I'll call him
Speaker 1: you know Samara from the Ring because my man goes
Speaker 1: through screens. Thank you a shout out to anybody who's
Speaker 1: seen the Ring or just call him wingstop, Lemon pepper,
Speaker 1: because it's there. It is all right, Thank you. And
Speaker 1: this has been branding with I wasn't a missing one
Speaker 1: thing because y'all kind of mentioned modern players. Do you
Speaker 1: guys have an appreciation for what Jose Alvarado did his
Speaker 1: little sneaky move last year, So ighting in the back court? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just just they'll take a little nap in the in
Speaker 1: the backcourt, run right to the corner, let you embed it,
Speaker 1: then peek right behind you and poked the ball the way.
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite things ever last year.
Speaker 1: It's like one step above getting down on the court
Speaker 1: and bargaining like a dog. Did distract people so that
Speaker 1: you're larry your teammate. That's an open look, but it's
Speaker 1: also like a very important step above that. Like it,
Speaker 1: it's much more respectable. I I appreciate it. The fact
Speaker 1: that you did against Chris Paul, somebody who is always
Speaker 1: you know, shaving an edge like I I appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why not let's do another quick break and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back and it's time for rapid fire question
Speaker 1: I hope you are in an athletic stance. I hope
Speaker 1: you've like done a little bit of a warm up
Speaker 1: because you're going to need to be at one when
Speaker 1: we start this scenario. And we're back and it's time
Speaker 1: to kick it, kick it up full to Uh. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not having a stroke. I know some people at
Speaker 1: home we're worried. It was just my words were distracted
Speaker 1: or my words were leaving me because my children are
Speaker 1: It sounds like having a fist fight in the other
Speaker 1: room and there four on six, so that's never good. Um,
Speaker 1: but let's let's do it. Let's do rapid fire. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: it's time for the rapid fire round of questioning. Now, Steve,
Speaker 1: I know you've listened to every single episode of this podcast,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to tell you about the rapid
Speaker 1: fire round of questioning. But let's presume that maybe you haven't,
Speaker 1: or maybe this listener is listening for the first time.
Speaker 1: This is the round of questioning where we are just
Speaker 1: going to hit you with the question and you have
Speaker 1: to reflexively respond. Don't think about it, just react, Do
Speaker 1: not waste our time, because this is the rapid This
Speaker 1: is the round of questions. Believe it at that notion?
Speaker 1: Is that round of questioning? Guess that one that you've
Speaker 1: been hearing about. The questions are happening. Parents, hid your children?
Speaker 1: Put him to bed because we're starting the clock. Do
Speaker 1: you want to go first? Or should I go first? Um? Support? Okay?
Speaker 1: All right, all right? Shoot you saw mine before? Paper scissors? Shoot, oh,
Speaker 1: we're doing this again. Rock papers, shot, rock papers, shoot,
Speaker 1: rock papers, scissors Shoot again. That was fast to see.
Speaker 1: We think about y'all, the listener. That wasn't a waste
Speaker 1: of time. Because we like to do things equitably on
Speaker 1: this shows, we should probably say what we're doing, uh
Speaker 1: like what like narrate the rock paper scissors. So the
Speaker 1: first one, the first one we did. First of all,
Speaker 1: we built the rock rock. Then we both did scissors, scissors, paper,
Speaker 1: We both didn't paper again a lot of paper, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then paper on my paper before scissors. Your visitor, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you lost to a rock I have through rocking. You
Speaker 1: throw scissors. That's how Yeah, that's what we got to
Speaker 1: make sure see and that's why we like to recap
Speaker 1: what happened in that for the list, you know how
Speaker 1: like they're the chess masters who can just look at
Speaker 1: a chessboard and immediately just have photographic recalled every where,
Speaker 1: every piece of That's how Miles is with rock paper.
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty impressive. I don't know why I keep
Speaker 1: doing this. Let you know, I should just be like
Speaker 1: you take the first one, man, whatever it's so important
Speaker 1: to you. Just get real passive aggressive. Remember the first
Speaker 1: time you you got good at rock papers? Oh well, see,
Speaker 1: now I'm getting all distracted. Start to clock again for
Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questions, Steve Jones Jr. Do
Speaker 1: not waste our time starting off with this one. Now,
Speaker 1: let us know what is a more likely scenario for
Speaker 1: the following teams planes situation comfortably in the playoffs or
Speaker 1: looking for lottery love and all the wrong places. Starting
Speaker 1: with the Lakers play m hmm. Is that depending on
Speaker 1: who you think comes in an off season or you're
Speaker 1: just thinking no matter what, you're still thinking the off
Speaker 1: season trade it's gonna save you. I think it's more
Speaker 1: of a salute to the West. Salute the West. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mr West, Uh, Mr West, that's kind of hard to hear. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's move on. The Timberwolves playing Okay, wow, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Pelicans comfortably in yes, Okay, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch them, very excited to watch them,
Speaker 1: very excited to watch them the nets comfortably in. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is controversial. Take. I'm hearing a lot of people
Speaker 1: who aren't believers, and I'm excited for them to the
Speaker 1: Pelicans and the nets are my like the teams that
Speaker 1: I'm pulling forward to see them like put it together.
Speaker 1: And now that Utah is on the nets too, I'm
Speaker 1: a pull for them too, because shout out my Japanese brethren. Okay,
Speaker 1: what about the Blazers? Finally, I know the Vegas people
Speaker 1: think that they seem to be they might be doing
Speaker 1: a big leap. But how about you where the most
Speaker 1: likely right? Lottery? Lottery? WHOA, I wouldn't be surprised by playing,
Speaker 1: but you said most likely, so I'm gonna take it literally. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, but Dame's gotta like be playing most of
Speaker 1: the games this year. I feel like they're they're not
Speaker 1: gonna be in a lottery of Dames playing the majority
Speaker 1: of the games, right, They're gonna be a lot better.
Speaker 1: But again, the West is disgusting. So yeah, really good
Speaker 1: this year. Um, keep it going, keep it going. Here
Speaker 1: we go. And this is just me talking conversationally. I
Speaker 1: am in no way reading this. I use these words
Speaker 1: all the time, such as per Vegas Insider dot com
Speaker 1: Vegas currently has Luca as the favorite to win the
Speaker 1: m v P next season, followed by I'm beating your
Speaker 1: honest give us your dark horse candidate. Folks aren't currently
Speaker 1: discussing uh, and sentence of me speaking just off the
Speaker 1: dome there it is dark horse? Yes, okay, oh man,
Speaker 1: this is just getting me excited for the season, which
Speaker 1: even back all the time. Anybody do you any other
Speaker 1: candidates are do you? Do you agree with those top
Speaker 1: three candidates? I don't know. I don't know where the
Speaker 1: winner of the last two is. Like Yoka just seems
Speaker 1: like he's missing. But for Yok's not be up, there's weird,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be tough for him to win another one.
Speaker 1: MB probably should be mentioned. Um, it probably feels like
Speaker 1: Lucas if Dallas win is enough game got it? Got it? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let's move on. I don't know the giantess that I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar with that name, but I bet he's good too,
Speaker 1: um little and you go. I will with chat Home Grins.
Speaker 1: Unfortunate foot injury at the crossover a couple of weeks back,
Speaker 1: and the news that he's expected to miss the whole season.
Speaker 1: Is there a chance we could be living in a
Speaker 1: world where Okay, see winds up with the top pick
Speaker 1: and could conceivably put Victor wembon Yama next to chat
Speaker 1: Home Grin on the same court as six eight Josh
Speaker 1: Giddy one day? Is that real? Is that a fever dream?
Speaker 1: Or is this possibility that's there? One two, three, six eight,
Speaker 1: seven foot and seven five possibly, definitely, possibly, Okay, Not
Speaker 1: your immediate action is there's no cold body. You're like, Nope,
Speaker 1: I can see it. That one clip wemban Yama just
Speaker 1: like hitting without hesitation, just so smooth from the logo
Speaker 1: is terrifying. Yeah, I'm very excited. Yeah, now that you
Speaker 1: mentioned it, I kind of want to just see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to see that that crew, Yeah, of daddy long
Speaker 1: legs and starting at shooting guard seven foot at Home
Speaker 1: Grant and at three seven five Victor. It's hypothetical, but
Speaker 1: if they did it, you kind of have to lean
Speaker 1: in and now just find all seven butters. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Who do you have a four and five? That being
Speaker 1: your back court? Um? Alright, and uh final question, Miles
Speaker 1: or Jack? Miles? God? Every time? No, last time was
Speaker 1: a draw. Last time was a draw. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. Maybe times ago it was a draw.
Speaker 1: But oh I thought the valley was being real. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But then immediately was like when I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, I never mind compressing, but I did
Speaker 1: want to be nice because you seemed like you had
Speaker 1: a lot riding on it. Um. No, that's understandable, it's understandable.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your honesty. Let's next time, Jack will do this.
Speaker 1: We'll reword it and your name comes first, and we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. How about hey, man, Hey, come on,
Speaker 1: chin up, man, chin up. That's fine man, he said
Speaker 1: in bed might be in the running for m VP.
Speaker 1: That was great. I was thinking of a Miles Turner.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, poor Jared Jack. That was that was
Speaker 1: literally hit the cum barrisson. I had my head. Miles Turner,
Speaker 1: Jared Jack, it's the last names. I got a better league. Yeah, man, Well,
Speaker 1: Steve Jones Jr. Thanks so much for joining us today
Speaker 1: on Miley Jack Got Mad Boost thees Man, who is
Speaker 1: really fantastic having you on. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: A follow you, engage with your work and all that
Speaker 1: can listen to the Dunker Spot pot on all podcasts
Speaker 1: and find me on Twitter at Steve Jones twenty. I'm
Speaker 1: so good at plugging myself. There is fish beautiful work.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the dunker Spot, how do we feel about
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons on the nets? Ben Simmons hopefully not just
Speaker 1: the dunker Spot. Yes, hopefully he's not just standing at
Speaker 1: the dunker Spot or also be a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna have a good year. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a good year. Don't to let's
Speaker 1: do it, but remember remember he did pick me though.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, thanks so much for listening. I need
Speaker 1: you to stop with the condescending, see Jack, because you
Speaker 1: look a look at that. You said that guy don't
Speaker 1: mean to play for y'all. He might be all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little head pet, a little sport. All right, y'all,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening. We'll see you next week
Speaker 1: when we come back with Miles and Jack Got Mad
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