Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of our
Speaker 1: ZiT P James Cohn instead of R I P. It's
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, but we did want to just open
Speaker 1: up then rest in peace to a real one. I
Speaker 1: am Jack and I'm thrilled to be joined by a
Speaker 1: very special guest co host, super producer Anna Hosnia. What's up?
Speaker 1: Oh nothing, I'm you know. Did you get a haircut?
Speaker 1: Your hair looks great? Thanks? Yes, they got a haircut,
Speaker 1: wonderful way, it looks great. Um and James Cohn, I
Speaker 1: do like a good celeb oh bit where you get
Speaker 1: to kind of look back learn some fun stories about
Speaker 1: their life. So let's let's just go through some details
Speaker 1: I pulled. I think you said you have some James
Speaker 1: conk Well, it's one thing I learned is that he
Speaker 1: maintained his strut and bravado off screen, earning a black
Speaker 1: belt in karate and pursuing hobbies such as power boat
Speaker 1: racing and roping steers what so off my off camera
Speaker 1: he was like a Will Ferrell character, like a Romberg,
Speaker 1: somebody who would hang with Ron Burgundy. I feel like,
Speaker 1: and yeah, so that's that's one thing, Like who Mark
Speaker 1: Wahlberg wishes he was right. Yeah. Yeah, Uh endured the
Speaker 1: tumult of cocaine addiction and four divorces they have to
Speaker 1: put in there. But you know, wrote it hard. I
Speaker 1: think um pointing out that like longstanding Hollywood actor with
Speaker 1: an illustrious career had a cocaine addiction is redundant. Right,
Speaker 1: You don't need to say that anymore. I think it
Speaker 1: goes without saying at this point. He was wildly famous
Speaker 1: for the entire like seventies and eighties, and he had
Speaker 1: a cocaine addiction. Uh. By the way, I feel like
Speaker 1: you get it pass for that, because during the seventies,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they thought cocaine was like healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you went to your meeting, you pitched a movie while
Speaker 1: aggressively kind of gripping someone's thigh. Yeah. Um. He ad
Speaker 1: libbed the phrase bata bing in the in The Godfather,
Speaker 1: So so much of The Godfather is like stuff they
Speaker 1: made up that. Then the mafia was like, that is
Speaker 1: way cooler than what we had. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: take that punch up. So at one point he is
Speaker 1: telling al Pacino like how to kill someone, and he says,
Speaker 1: you gotta get up close like this and botta bing,
Speaker 1: you blow their brains all over your nice ivy league suit. Uh.
Speaker 1: He improvised the bada bing and it became a mantra
Speaker 1: for mobsters and aspiring monsters like myself. Um, now he's
Speaker 1: not Italian, is he? No, he's doing so that is
Speaker 1: actually Italian American discrimination. What he was doing right there. Well,
Speaker 1: if if the Italian American community hadn't embraced it so fully,
Speaker 1: I could see we'll get to it. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that at streaming corner. But I would argue the Italian
Speaker 1: American community did not embrace it to begin with. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why later. Oh are we gonna get
Speaker 1: some the offer and the I hear it's very funny, alright.
Speaker 1: He almost didn't get the role. Uh so Paramount originally
Speaker 1: cast him as Michael with an end, Carmine Kardi as Sunny.
Speaker 1: But Coppola was like, now he should do it, and
Speaker 1: he said, James con said, what fucking transformation. Obviously I
Speaker 1: grew up in the neighborhood. I didn't have to work
Speaker 1: on an accent or anything. Um, they just called him Coppola. Coppola,
Speaker 1: it's Coppola. M M. Is that how you say it, Well,
Speaker 1: that's how everyone that's a I don't know es um.
Speaker 1: So this was big is He turned down leading parts
Speaker 1: in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Cramer Versus Kramer,
Speaker 1: by which he dismissed as middle class bourgeois, and Coppola
Speaker 1: Coppola's Apocalypse Now I'm just stick with Coppola kind of
Speaker 1: like it, and then he also turned down the role
Speaker 1: of Superman like that. Ultimately they went with Christopher reeves On.
Speaker 1: He like was very close to being the most famous
Speaker 1: human on the planet and was just like Marlon Brando
Speaker 1: was like, dude, why did you turn that down? And
Speaker 1: I I did it and got like those the easiest
Speaker 1: millions of dollars I ever made. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't have to wear the suit. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: What what were your quotes that you wanted to So
Speaker 1: I saw this on Twitter and it's basically Cohn's interview
Speaker 1: with Playboy Magazine and they're like they're asking him, like, well,
Speaker 1: we've heard you're like a macho fucking you know dude
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. You're a macho pig. You go
Speaker 1: around smacking people, humping women, in the gutter and all
Speaker 1: that ship um, and con is like, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: all these like trash fan magazines say about me and
Speaker 1: how I just like get loaded and go do all
Speaker 1: that crap. And I can't believe they come up with that.
Speaker 1: And playboys like so you're not that person, and he's like,
Speaker 1: this is what he says. Anybody says I am, I'll
Speaker 1: kick the ship out of them, which is yeah, it
Speaker 1: says no. I mean, I was brought up to defend
Speaker 1: myself if I have to. But I've never started a
Speaker 1: fight in my life and I can't remember the last
Speaker 1: time somebody started one with me. When I take a drink,
Speaker 1: which isn't often mostly wine, I get happy and laughing
Speaker 1: a lot. And I've never fucked a woman in the gutter,
Speaker 1: not without putting a pillow under her first. Chivalry ain't
Speaker 1: completely dead, you know, damn. And then they talked about
Speaker 1: how he basically spends all his money and like has
Speaker 1: like big parties and stuff, and he got his parents
Speaker 1: a nice like Beverly Hills apartment to bring them out
Speaker 1: and he's like, I can afford it, and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: do you have any savings? And he says no, I've
Speaker 1: never saved any money. I don't think that's what it's for.
Speaker 1: I like to live well and I like to see
Speaker 1: my family and friends live well. That costs money. Fortunately
Speaker 1: I make a lot of it. Uh oh god, no
Speaker 1: wonder he had four wives. Um it was. It was
Speaker 1: a real Hollywood lady killer, if you will. All right,
Speaker 1: So that is James con Let's talk about scandal. So
Speaker 1: two countries to scandals kind of like. So in the UK,
Speaker 1: Boris Johnson did, in fact resign. I think I said,
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. I do believe
Speaker 1: it now because I saw it. He did resign because
Speaker 1: the scandal was too massive and it was seemingly like
Speaker 1: it was a number of things. And then meanwhile, we
Speaker 1: also have a story about how Lindsay Graham will not
Speaker 1: comply with subpoenas in Georgia. Uh in in like the
Speaker 1: Georgia election probe because they I don't know. He's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I'm not going to do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to like, I'll take it to the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, at which point, uh, you all can kiss
Speaker 1: my ass. So we have a scandal wherein the Republicans
Speaker 1: tried to overturn the election and are refusing to acknowledge
Speaker 1: that they did any of that. Ship and then um
Speaker 1: in the UK. So basically I just want to move
Speaker 1: to the UK, is my takeaway from this UM because
Speaker 1: it's it's bad here. I know it's not a competition,
Speaker 1: but it's interesting to watch what qualifies as a term
Speaker 1: ending scandal in the UK and then not even a
Speaker 1: story in the US, where like they're threatening the very
Speaker 1: foundation of like what our civilization supposed to function. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, the UK seems nice, but it's also
Speaker 1: like really racist and yeah, um it feels like nowhere
Speaker 1: is good just just because we had Forrest Johnson retire.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still don't feel good about anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that's fair. Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: come back. We'll talk Hunter Biden kind of, and we
Speaker 1: will get to some streaming corner and we're back, and
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is trending. In so far as Hunter Biden
Speaker 1: is always trending. I feel like when I see Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden and trending topics, it's less of an indication that
Speaker 1: like there's a news story there and more that like
Speaker 1: it might be a slow ish news day. The latest
Speaker 1: news story is that he was caught on camera smoking
Speaker 1: drugs and drinking in a sensory deprivation tank at a
Speaker 1: rehab that, according to some conservative outlets, his dad is
Speaker 1: paying for. So I don't know. The right is just
Speaker 1: obsessed and breathlessly documenting everything he does. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot. I mean the thing of like Hunter Biden,
Speaker 1: like he's just a guy who like is trying to survive.
Speaker 1: And to me, I'm like, what does that have to
Speaker 1: do with anything with politics? Like it doesn't change that
Speaker 1: Biden doesn't do anything. It doesn't change anything, Like they're
Speaker 1: all still politicians. He just has a grown man son
Speaker 1: who is struggling. But he also is still from the
Speaker 1: Biden family. So you always kind of know, like you
Speaker 1: don't be fine, and so like, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: like to the right, I'm like, this is not Ammo,
Speaker 1: that excuse me, don't we want to talk about Emma.
Speaker 1: This is not like the attack you think it is. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: it's like it's not like the Trump kids who are
Speaker 1: literally out here committing fraud. You know, you're just like okay,
Speaker 1: like there's actual things you can go after about the
Speaker 1: drump children that can be held up in court versus
Speaker 1: like Hunter Biden who has like addiction issues, Like I
Speaker 1: don't really know what else he does, Like he just
Speaker 1: seems to be trying to like take care of himself
Speaker 1: after like struggling for a very long time. I think
Speaker 1: there's a narrative of like being enabling and like the
Speaker 1: nanny state that the right like wants to like draw,
Speaker 1: like be like, well, look, his dad's just like letting
Speaker 1: him continue to use drugs that like you know, a
Speaker 1: nice spa or something. And I don't think Biden is
Speaker 1: letting him do anything. He's a grown man. The thing
Speaker 1: that it always like comes back to is like they're like, ha,
Speaker 1: you have a son who has addiction problems that are
Speaker 1: like debilitating and he's like, yeah, man, I really love
Speaker 1: him and I'm very at about it. It's always like,
Speaker 1: well that kind of sucks your whole thing there, right,
Speaker 1: It's like there's not there's not much you can say
Speaker 1: to that, and but they're still sticking with it. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get too on a streaming corner. Um, what have
Speaker 1: you been watching? What has caught your eye? It's my
Speaker 1: streaming gonna streaming gona time, all right, I had to Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was a five minute Well we'll do a
Speaker 1: quick cutdown of that, um. But yeah, that that was
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. That was inspired by kind of like
Speaker 1: nineties sitcom television. So I have a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: going on for streaming corner um because I refused to
Speaker 1: look at my emails. So if you have emailed me,
Speaker 1: you're watch these recommendations because I'm in no mood to
Speaker 1: look at my email except for watching TV. Okay, First
Speaker 1: of all, this show has caused quite a stir on
Speaker 1: the Internet over its portrayal of Chicago. And that is
Speaker 1: the television show The Bear starring Jeremy Allen White I
Speaker 1: believe his name the Kid from Shameless. It's a show
Speaker 1: about people working in a kitchen and has a lot
Speaker 1: of great people in it, including ao At, a very
Speaker 1: hilarious comedian. It's about working in a kitchen. If you
Speaker 1: guys know anything about working in like a nice restaurant kitchen,
Speaker 1: um from I don't know, maybe you've read Kitchen Confidential
Speaker 1: or whatever, just had friends who worked in these kitchens.
Speaker 1: It's incredibly stressful, very stressful, and can cause literal PTSD.
Speaker 1: Because the way the chefs act and the energy in
Speaker 1: this in these kitchens can be so so intense, and um,
Speaker 1: I think this show captures it really well. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: highly recommend not working in a kitchen if you are
Speaker 1: the worst waiter of all time. That that was my experience,
Speaker 1: and they did not like me and they did not
Speaker 1: suffer me very well. No. Uh, it's in a very
Speaker 1: intense environment and it is um in my opinion, incredibly
Speaker 1: toxic and should really be looked at for a reform,
Speaker 1: if you will. But this show really captures that energy
Speaker 1: really well. I will say I did kind of get
Speaker 1: some PTSD from how much they were yelling, even though
Speaker 1: I wasn't even in the kitchen. I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: but um yeah, check it out if you want to
Speaker 1: see what that's like. And also see Jeremy Allen White
Speaker 1: in another Chicago setting show outside of Shameless, though I
Speaker 1: will say again you're from Chicago, you might have some
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, uh how this show represents Chicago. Check
Speaker 1: it that out. Check it that out. Check it that out. Also,
Speaker 1: another show I've been watching is Loot on Apple TV.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you can watch The Bear on Hulu. But
Speaker 1: the Loot, which is the new Maya Rudolph vehicle on
Speaker 1: Apple TV. Hilarious show. She plays the divorced wife of
Speaker 1: a billionaires. Now she's just like another billionaire allah, you know,
Speaker 1: like when Jeff Bezos wife divorced him, or like Melinda Gates.
Speaker 1: Like now you're like another really really one of the
Speaker 1: richest people in the world, and you're just trying to
Speaker 1: find your way because you've got a divorce and you
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden just find out you own
Speaker 1: all these companies you didn't know you realize you got it.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. But it's Maya Rudolph. So it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: And there is a really great scene where her character
Speaker 1: decides to try and do some good press for herself.
Speaker 1: So she h she goes on hot Ones, which happens,
Speaker 1: and it's this clip went viral because it's it's like
Speaker 1: Maya Rudolph doing what Maya Rudolph does best. Like she's
Speaker 1: so funny in this scene, and uh yeah, I really
Speaker 1: recommend it. And a few more special mentions. I want
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to killing it, like Craig Robinson.
Speaker 1: Really funny show takes place in Florida. Basically he becomes
Speaker 1: like a python hunter to make money so he can
Speaker 1: like open his dream business. So I would really recommend it.
Speaker 1: Claudia Doherty, isn't it just a really really funny fucking show.
Speaker 1: It's all that's that one's on Peacock, So check that
Speaker 1: out and then you know what, I also want to
Speaker 1: give another special shout out to Usher's Tiny Desk Concert.
Speaker 1: Really a streaming corner, but to me it was did
Speaker 1: that just happen or did people just discover it because
Speaker 1: of the watch this video? Okay, I think that's why
Speaker 1: I watched this popped off because it just happened. Everyone
Speaker 1: just started, meaning like the watch this clip from the
Speaker 1: Tiny Desk Concert is like one of the most compelling
Speaker 1: pieces of video and like one of the most compelling
Speaker 1: performances I've seen in a long time. Like I couldn't
Speaker 1: stop watching that five seconds. Yeah I know which you know,
Speaker 1: he actually says that in the Confessions song, So I'm
Speaker 1: glad that he did it at the Tiny Desk Um.
Speaker 1: The finger movements were very hilarious, and then I think
Speaker 1: out of context. If you just see that video, it
Speaker 1: feels like Usher's really taking himself seriously when he said,
Speaker 1: watched this, but if you watch a full video, he
Speaker 1: starts cracking up right after he does that because he
Speaker 1: just knows, like it's yeah, it portrayed. It could either
Speaker 1: be like being silly or like unhinged levels of like confidence, um,
Speaker 1: but either way, it's I can't stop watching it. Actually,
Speaker 1: a great moment of prestige casting is Usher being cast
Speaker 1: as Usher in the movie Hustlers, which Galopez. That's prestigious
Speaker 1: casting to cast him as himself genius. Wow, I did
Speaker 1: I did not know that that happened in that movie.
Speaker 1: And then, uh, let's talk about the Offer. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. I haven't seen it because I haven't seen
Speaker 1: anything besides Blue Um, which is a kid's show. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the Offer. So the Offer is a television
Speaker 1: show about the making of The god Father, like how
Speaker 1: it got done? And uh, it's on Paramount Plus and
Speaker 1: it's absolutely batshit. So it stars Miles Teller as Ruddy.
Speaker 1: I think his name is Alan Ruddy, who is the
Speaker 1: producer who basically makes The Godfather happened. We have in
Speaker 1: a incredible performance as Robert Evans, producer, famous producer or whatever,
Speaker 1: famous problematic weirdo. Matthew Good playing Robert Evans and literally
Speaker 1: acting his goddamn ass off like Ronny like his everyone
Speaker 1: is doing accent work like you've never heard or seen before.
Speaker 1: We have Giovanni Roubisi playing mafia Boss Colombo, Joe Colombo
Speaker 1: being a daughter Barker. But you know, it's like all
Speaker 1: this weird ship went on here, like every person is
Speaker 1: really hamming it up, except for Miles Teller, who talks
Speaker 1: in kind of a very mon He says everything in
Speaker 1: the same way, we got to get a movie made.
Speaker 1: This movie's gotta get made. We're going to do that,
Speaker 1: like it's the strangest choice he's ever I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's how already spoke. It sounds like they asked
Speaker 1: everybody to make the biggest choice that they could with
Speaker 1: the with all of their roles and them we're just like, okay,
Speaker 1: and we are not giving ourselves the ability to give
Speaker 1: any feedback on the no. And then we got Dan
Speaker 1: Fogler playing Francis Ford Coppola as he's doing he's doing
Speaker 1: something anyway, so everyone is everyone is really going for
Speaker 1: it in this show, and including the guy who plays
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra. Oh my god Nutty. Um, all right, there
Speaker 1: would be such a hit. Also interesting fact they did not.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to cast Marlon Brondo except for uh, alright,
Speaker 1: So you've been giving me about my pronunciations, and you
Speaker 1: just said Mara Lynn Brondo, Marlon bron Is it Brandon Brando? No,
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. Is it Brando Brondo Brando?
Speaker 1: I can't tell if you're doing a bit. If you are,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what I said, Mara Lynn, Marlon Brondo,
Speaker 1: mar long I thought you added an extra syllable, Mara Lynn,
Speaker 1: Marry Lynn Brondo, marl long Ago Brongo. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: Super producer, an A Hosnia? Where can people find you?
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Speaker 1: on the internet. What about the will you accept this Rose?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you're right, God, damn it. Cut all that out.
Speaker 1: Cut out the goddamn it. Oh my god. Actually the
Speaker 1: whole episode off dial alone. Yes, and guys, the Bachelorette's starts.
Speaker 1: I say that because there's two Bacherettes this season. It
Speaker 1: starts on Monday, She'll lie eleventh. That is correct. We
Speaker 1: are having Gabby and Rachel b Bachelorettes at the same
Speaker 1: time on the same show. It's going to be legendary,
Speaker 1: as they say, legendary. I really recommend you watch it
Speaker 1: with us if you're into reality TV because who knows
Speaker 1: how how the Bachelor producers are gonna sunk this up.
Speaker 1: Probably great, great funk up coming. Um. So, my podcast
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Speaker 1: another day? All right, Well, that is going to do
Speaker 1: it for us on this Thursday, July seven. We are
Speaker 1: back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
Speaker 1: get the vaccine, get a booster, don't do nothing about
Speaker 1: white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Fights