Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season too forty three,
Speaker 1: Episode four of US production of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, June thirtie. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a K. Hey, look at Google flights. WHOA.
Speaker 1: I'm tired and I got a lot of dread. But
Speaker 1: I had some mountain dew about an hour ago, and
Speaker 1: it's gone straight to my head. Wherever I'm a Rome
Speaker 1: bump bump code, red voltage or gold, you can always
Speaker 1: hear me singing a song about Hey, look at Google flights. Whoa.
Speaker 1: That is a pretty good impression of how my brain works.
Speaker 1: From Mr lugubrious on Twitter at Mr lugubrious. Just you know, tired,
Speaker 1: constantly distracted by new stuff like whoa, Google flights, Wow,
Speaker 1: mountain dew. Yeah, I am, you know, spiritually mentally exhausted,
Speaker 1: and this is how it has manifested. Anyways, I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined by a very special guest co host.
Speaker 1: You know him as the King of Staying, the Queen
Speaker 1: of mean. Many DJs are on the ones and twos,
Speaker 1: He's on the Ones and hey, fuck you it's Mr
Speaker 1: DJ Daniel good Man. I never heard the ones and
Speaker 1: fuck us before. That's very funny, that's very like, that's
Speaker 1: very like big Muscle DJ Energy. Yeah, I like that
Speaker 1: a lot. Hello, it's your boy DJ Daniel. A k
Speaker 1: A big cheese it, Daniel. We're gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: a little bit, very big cheese it. But is it
Speaker 1: a big cheese it or is it just a bunch
Speaker 1: of cheese that's stuck together? Like they just didn't break
Speaker 1: them up like they do with a normal sheet of
Speaker 1: cheese it before stick to one half, doesn't at the other.
Speaker 1: Something tells me that it really is just a bunch
Speaker 1: of big Jesus. But are we all not just a
Speaker 1: bunch of big cheese that stuck together? That's true in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things we know. We're thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third and fourth seats by two
Speaker 1: of the most brilliant people doing it in podcasting and
Speaker 1: the audio arts, among many other things. They're the hosts
Speaker 1: of the truly great, award winning podcast The Stoop. It's
Speaker 1: Lela Day and hang Up Baba. Hey y'all, how are
Speaker 1: you guys doing? We're doing great. We're excited now that
Speaker 1: we're talking about cheese. It's cheese. Its got me think
Speaker 1: about Cheetos too, all of it. Okay, I've noticed a
Speaker 1: conspicuous lack of like we wanted to get you onto
Speaker 1: hear your take of on cheese. It's we feel like that.
Speaker 1: You know, that was the one glaring hole from all
Speaker 1: the stuff you've covered on the stoop. It was like,
Speaker 1: come on, what's what are your thoughts on cheese? It's
Speaker 1: big ones. Anything with cheese is amazing to me. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love cheese. Its then it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're gonna like Taco Bell's new creation. This is not
Speaker 1: sponsored content, by the way, talk about would I think
Speaker 1: they would have a hard time sponsoring something where we
Speaker 1: kind of openly acknowledged that it is coming from a
Speaker 1: dark place our ob session with Taco Bell and but
Speaker 1: maybe they're just like um. Anyways, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that new Taco bellt creation. We're also gonna talk
Speaker 1: about a story I have titled Whelp. It is based
Speaker 1: on the testimony on the January sixth commission that was
Speaker 1: pretty I don't know, it seems to have changed the
Speaker 1: minds on the right. It didn't really change much, but
Speaker 1: it offered some texture I guess where we didn't have
Speaker 1: it before. On Trump's behavior on that day, people are
Speaker 1: also mad that he like throw a plate of French
Speaker 1: fries at the wall. But I feel like that's that's
Speaker 1: just straight toxic male. Every president so plays just tracks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first, Leila, and we
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, it is something from your
Speaker 1: search history, Lord. I mean, I've been all over the place,
Speaker 1: from cute Hejabi summer outfits to how to help your
Speaker 1: cat during the fireworks of the fourth July. But I
Speaker 1: think the biggest one has been around how to talk
Speaker 1: to your conservative parents about abortion. Yeah, we've been talking
Speaker 1: about this thing a lot. And you know a lot
Speaker 1: of us come from conservative families or like conservative immigrant families,
Speaker 1: and it's just like and my my, my parents were
Speaker 1: visiting recently, and so it was just like this three
Speaker 1: generational conversation about this stuff, right, like my parents and
Speaker 1: mine and my teenage daughters who are growing up in
Speaker 1: this very America America, right, and my grants and their
Speaker 1: grandparents who come from this other country. And all of
Speaker 1: this is new. It's been hard, folks, but it's unnecessary.
Speaker 1: A conversation and has been helping me a lot. Yeah. One,
Speaker 1: can you give us a tip, like one thing that
Speaker 1: you found worked well for you in that conversation. Be
Speaker 1: calm and be patient because these kinds of conversations can
Speaker 1: go left really fast and you want to keep with
Speaker 1: a respect, You want to keep the um just you know,
Speaker 1: don't break your family while having these conversations. That's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing, is like that, like the mental health sanity
Speaker 1: portion of this MHM has helped a lot. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. There there was these talking points from a
Speaker 1: doctor during the early stages of COVID where the doctor
Speaker 1: was basically talking about how to speak to people who
Speaker 1: are like vaccine skeptics about vaccines and the patients and
Speaker 1: not like unflappable nous. It wasn't like a handful of
Speaker 1: talking points. It was like thirty. It was like, here's
Speaker 1: how the conversation usually goes, and it was just unwavering
Speaker 1: kind of calmness and just sticking to the facts, which is, yes,
Speaker 1: we have the facts on our side, so it should
Speaker 1: be possible to stay calm for me. But the fact
Speaker 1: that we have the facts on our side and they
Speaker 1: don't see that with regards to any of this, including
Speaker 1: abortions and reproductive health, is very frustrating, and it's hard
Speaker 1: when it's people you love, right, And this is happening
Speaker 1: not just in my immigrant family, but in kind of red,
Speaker 1: you know, blue mixed purple families all over the country
Speaker 1: having these kinds of conversations. So just deep breaths and
Speaker 1: calmness and respect and patience. How about you, Leila. I
Speaker 1: think it's super interesting that Hannah is talking about this
Speaker 1: Google search being a very it's a very serious and
Speaker 1: important topic, and my search has been a little bit different. Um.
Speaker 1: I was just searching what it means when you have
Speaker 1: dreams that you're appearing in public and you're naked. Oh right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a comment. Like I feel like I've seen that
Speaker 1: so many times in movies. I don't know who I've
Speaker 1: ever ever never dreamt it. I might have. I don't
Speaker 1: think I was fully naked, but like just dressed inappropriately,
Speaker 1: maybe like in my underwear. Although I could be having
Speaker 1: that thing where like you've seen something so many times
Speaker 1: on TV that you think it happened to you, But yes,
Speaker 1: so so I have had this reoccurring dream and me
Speaker 1: and Hannah just an episode about it on The Stoop
Speaker 1: where we're talking about dreams, and I realized, I've had
Speaker 1: this dream constantly about showing up in public with no
Speaker 1: clothes on. Now I am terrified because I have no
Speaker 1: clothes on, but no one else notices that I have
Speaker 1: no clothes on but me. And so we actually talked
Speaker 1: to a dream therapist about this, and they said, like,
Speaker 1: it's a very common dream, and it means that you're
Speaker 1: afraid of being vulnerable, you're afraid of expressing yourself. But
Speaker 1: then other dream places, like other dream analysis folks in
Speaker 1: different parts of the world have totally different interpretations of it.
Speaker 1: Like in South Africa they were saying, it means like
Speaker 1: someone's doing some like bad magic on you and you
Speaker 1: need to watch out and that sort of thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm like fascinated about all these like cultural interpretations of
Speaker 1: the same dream, which mine is this being butt naked
Speaker 1: in front of everybody and like like during a presentation
Speaker 1: or something, and you know, it's like you forget to
Speaker 1: put your you know, I don't know, you might forget
Speaker 1: to put your socks on one day and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I did, wait my socks today, don't know it's like
Speaker 1: you didn't put on anything. Yeah, yeah, that happens to me.
Speaker 1: But with what would like I go out and I
Speaker 1: forget my scarf, which you know kind of is the equivalent,
Speaker 1: not the equivalent of being naked. But like there's something
Speaker 1: there's an anxiety around look right, like there's something missing,
Speaker 1: there's something missing, what's going on? Oops? I don't have
Speaker 1: my shoes on. Oops, I don't have this on. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people get that dream, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but the naked one is a special one. Leela sounds
Speaker 1: out funds out summertime. Have you ever had it and
Speaker 1: just been like, yeah, this is right, this is how
Speaker 1: I should be dressed because it's appropriate to our rapidly
Speaker 1: heating earth. Well analysis. Yeah, I'm reading this book The
Speaker 1: Dawn of Everything. Our listeners will make fun of me
Speaker 1: because I've been reading it for like seven months, but
Speaker 1: they go back and talking exactly. We're just working through it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't have the internal fortitude to be reading
Speaker 1: DNSE nonfiction and have to like go back to sci
Speaker 1: fi or something like that. But they just had this section,
Speaker 1: or I just read the section where they talk about
Speaker 1: how the Hurons believed our souls have. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: read directly from the book. Our souls have other desires,
Speaker 1: which are as it were, in born and concealed. They
Speaker 1: believe that our soul makers. Our soul makes these natural
Speaker 1: desires known by means of dreams, which are its language. Accordingly,
Speaker 1: then these desires are accomplished. It is satisfied. But on
Speaker 1: the contrary, if it is not being granted what it desires,
Speaker 1: it becomes angry and not only does not give its
Speaker 1: body the good and the happiness that it wished to
Speaker 1: procure for it, but often it also revolts against the body,
Speaker 1: causing various diseases and even death. And the author David
Speaker 1: Graber and another person named David was like, this might
Speaker 1: just sound like somebody summarizing Freudian theory, but this was
Speaker 1: two and fifty years before Freud. And yeah, there's just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick in an underrated real quick here, like
Speaker 1: all of the you know, thinking and philosophy that listed
Speaker 1: in America before settlers and conquerors, like all the all
Speaker 1: the worst people came over from Europe and sucked everything up.
Speaker 1: Is pretty it is pretty cool and wildly underrated. And
Speaker 1: we talk about I mean, this is starting to sound
Speaker 1: like a promo of that episode about dreams. But we
Speaker 1: talk about that a lot in this episode. This idea
Speaker 1: that take Freud with a grain of salt. People we
Speaker 1: we as African people's and Black people's you know, have
Speaker 1: histories and a heritage of you know, psychoanalysis if we
Speaker 1: want to call it that. But like the dream interpretation,
Speaker 1: the traditional spiritual explanations of things that we live, then
Speaker 1: the Freud's of the world came right right, and and
Speaker 1: now you know, all the textbooks are about uh Freud's
Speaker 1: interpretation of dreams and psychoanalysis. So that's interesting. Yes, definitely
Speaker 1: over over I can't say Freud is over rated. My
Speaker 1: husband is a psychiatrist. I will hear about this, but
Speaker 1: I mean in the grand scheme of things, right, and
Speaker 1: the way they did the therapy was they would bring
Speaker 1: it in front of the entire community and talk about it,
Speaker 1: and everybody would decide, okay, this person needs like to
Speaker 1: follow this dream and it is pretty cool. It seems
Speaker 1: like a you know, rather than just like doing it
Speaker 1: in secret with a psycho analysts who are great and
Speaker 1: brilliant people. And I don't I don't want to cause
Speaker 1: any drum but yeah, I could see that, like totally
Speaker 1: benefiting from I've never done like a group therapy session
Speaker 1: sort of thing. I could totally see benefiting from not
Speaker 1: feeling like you're the only person going through that and
Speaker 1: hearing how other people would deal with it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we should do that. Maybe maybe we should do
Speaker 1: a group therapy session. Honestly, today I'm definitely thinking I
Speaker 1: needed because I have some recurring dreams as well, but
Speaker 1: they're more about me being tickled and I can't do
Speaker 1: anything about it, and then I just wake up being
Speaker 1: like do you like being tickled in real life? Are
Speaker 1: you laughing when you're getting tickled in this? He doesn't
Speaker 1: like that, man, It is an invasion of the personal space.
Speaker 1: I have a four year old in a six year old,
Speaker 1: and like they like to be tickled, but then they'll
Speaker 1: be like stop stop, And I'm always worried that I'm
Speaker 1: going that, like they are going to wake up and
Speaker 1: like have these dreams where like a big like me
Speaker 1: is like looming over them, like coupling them. So I
Speaker 1: don't know into good morning to protect you from that.
Speaker 1: It's usually some weird like mythical beast of my creation.
Speaker 1: It is not like my father or or something, or
Speaker 1: my principle from high school or is it go Before
Speaker 1: we started, you said you hadn't under overrated, that you
Speaker 1: were ready to let let loose. So what is something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated? I'm gonna get dragged for this.
Speaker 1: So years ago. So I'm a watcher of the Game
Speaker 1: Show Network. I love game show. My whole family loves
Speaker 1: game shows. We love them. You know, we've gone to
Speaker 1: the Will of Fortune Live, We've gone to a g
Speaker 1: T Live. We just love it. There was a show
Speaker 1: called Lingo. There was a game called Lingo, and Lingo
Speaker 1: was two teams trying to guess what a five letter
Speaker 1: word was if you know you know, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Got it. So my thing that's overrated right now and
Speaker 1: really gets to me. I'm sorry New York Times word
Speaker 1: word all totally stole Lingo's idea. I am standing by that.
Speaker 1: If you're a Lingo fan, you know that's that's my
Speaker 1: thing that I think is overrated. Well, is that really overrated?
Speaker 1: It's overrated? Yes, it's overrated, as like an original creation,
Speaker 1: as like, yeah, it's totally it's stolen. M Now people
Speaker 1: are like word a word, a word or where where
Speaker 1: we're Where were you when Lingo was alive? That's right,
Speaker 1: you weren't on the Lingo train. I was ignorant because
Speaker 1: I'm a big word a head. I you know, I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't. I don't. I just do it
Speaker 1: as a guilty pleasure. My streaks at one, six to four,
Speaker 1: so pretty good. You're not doing it, okay, Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it philosophically. I just think it's
Speaker 1: like fun, like because because it's Lingo and I didn't
Speaker 1: even know. Now I have to go back and watch lingo.
Speaker 1: You have to watch lingo. Yeah, I chose a new
Speaker 1: convert to Lingo and seeing it after the fact after
Speaker 1: World was like another another you're seeing it now. It
Speaker 1: was It was one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: you you learned about World, said oh, what's this and
Speaker 1: you think it's so fresh and new, and then Lingo
Speaker 1: hive comes up and says, now you all see what
Speaker 1: we've been loving for generations, and it's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I got the same mechanism where you guess by letter
Speaker 1: and they tell you exactly there's letter firms green. That
Speaker 1: means it's letter in the right place. If it is yellow.
Speaker 1: It is a correct letter, but not in the right place. Wow,
Speaker 1: the colors and everything, how about Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: just super controversial and it's it's it's a big one.
Speaker 1: But I've been thinking about it a lot lately because
Speaker 1: people keep sending me, oh, they're damn TikTok's right, And
Speaker 1: I'm just realizing there was a point where I would
Speaker 1: go on, like very specifically to find someone's you know,
Speaker 1: take on something right, like maybe it was skincare, maybe
Speaker 1: it was you know, a nice ab routine, which I
Speaker 1: would never do, but like I would go on and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh cool. But now it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know how on Facebook people post, like you know,
Speaker 1: mostly older folks, they post like the memes and they're
Speaker 1: just like, this is what it looks like. When you're like,
Speaker 1: they don't really make sense and you're not really laughing
Speaker 1: and you're it's just posted. It just feels like I
Speaker 1: just feel like I'm getting inundated with like people sharing
Speaker 1: TikTok's with me that I just don't care about. And
Speaker 1: I just feel everyone's everyone's talking about TikTok right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling like what I'm not getting anything from
Speaker 1: it right now. Like I feel like there was a
Speaker 1: moment where I was really kind of digging it, and
Speaker 1: now I'm just like this, this thing is fading. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm feeling like it's fading. I'm not really
Speaker 1: feeling it anymore. And I just feel like everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of maybe it's I feel like younger people are kind
Speaker 1: of fading out of it too, like my nieces and stuff.
Speaker 1: They're kind of like TikTok's for old people, and like, really,
Speaker 1: I'm just getting I just started getting into it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just feel like maybe not on the discord. Yeah
Speaker 1: you need to do you need to chase them where
Speaker 1: they are. I have two teenage girls, I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's discord where every time we're on something off, they
Speaker 1: go off. I just say, I just ain't feeling it anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm not into it, you know. I think if if,
Speaker 1: if I may, I feel like we're in a place
Speaker 1: right now where every meme kind of just happens instantaneously,
Speaker 1: and like with so many people on TikTok, you just
Speaker 1: have this just deluge of content about literally everything, and
Speaker 1: since we've kind of decided on a one place that
Speaker 1: should exist which is TikTok. It's like everything just happens
Speaker 1: all at once. It's like every joke, every response to
Speaker 1: the joke, every skincare routine, every actually used this product instead,
Speaker 1: every version of that happens just instantaneously. And it's like
Speaker 1: the second you laugh at something, you're actually laughing at
Speaker 1: the old version of the thing now, And it's like,
Speaker 1: how do I possibly keep up? And which one is right?
Speaker 1: And which one is right? Yeah? Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you won't you won't get drag leada. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel that way. We're here with you.
Speaker 1: I'm also just hearing about TikTok. Is it is that
Speaker 1: what you're talking tickety talk talk that sounds narrow. I
Speaker 1: like stay off of it because for similar reasons that
Speaker 1: I've managed to for like tried to stay off of
Speaker 1: away from video games, because like the times when I
Speaker 1: have done it, I experience a strange existential thing where
Speaker 1: I look over in an hour has passed and I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know it felt like five minutes, and
Speaker 1: I just I feel like the seamlessness of TikTok, the
Speaker 1: like the I think the scariest part of social media
Speaker 1: is that it takes away our free will. Like it's
Speaker 1: just finding seamless kind of subtle ways to take away
Speaker 1: our free will and use suggestion to market to us
Speaker 1: and change our behavior and TikTok like seems like the
Speaker 1: the most seamless. Now, I don't think they've like fully
Speaker 1: given over to the marketers quite yet, or the marketer
Speaker 1: the marketing geniuses haven't quite like fully figured it out yet,
Speaker 1: but it's coming, and when it does, it will be
Speaker 1: the most dangerous. It feels like to like, you know,
Speaker 1: because you you are just in the tunnel having content
Speaker 1: poured into you. Yeah, the record clip. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about what's underrated, and we'll talk about the Cassidy Hutchinson testimony,
Speaker 1: and we are back, and last thing in the getting
Speaker 1: to know you section. We do like to ask our
Speaker 1: guests what is something you think is underrated? And I do,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to jinx this like somebody going
Speaker 1: up to a picture heading into the ninth inning of
Speaker 1: a perfect game and being like, hey man, good good
Speaker 1: pitching out there. Don't don't blow up, but you guys
Speaker 1: are nailing your history over it underted so far, So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know and then no pressure.
Speaker 1: But what is something you think is underrated? Peanuts? It's
Speaker 1: all about the well nut and the pecan and the cashew,
Speaker 1: and for me, peanuts are totally underrated. They're they're the
Speaker 1: best nut. They go into many things that it just
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because of where I'm from,
Speaker 1: but I think peanuts, you know, are just shunned a lot,
Speaker 1: and the poor peanut has become just disenfranchised and not appreciated.
Speaker 1: So I feel like peanuts. I had others, cucumbers and
Speaker 1: jack black but yeah, but peanuts to me are underappreciated
Speaker 1: and they need they need to make a comeback. Do
Speaker 1: you a favorite kind of peanut? Yeah, like like a
Speaker 1: like a honey roast, a salted, unsalted, very pure peanut,
Speaker 1: just your basic peanut, salted. I put it in back
Speaker 1: lava and it's just a totally different taste. Peanut butter.
Speaker 1: I love peanut butter. Don't give me the almond butter.
Speaker 1: Don't give me no almond butter, walnut butter or whatever
Speaker 1: other butter they have. Hey, have you ever wondered, like
Speaker 1: what peanut butter? Would be like if it was worse,
Speaker 1: or here's almond butter. I'd say, like of my calories
Speaker 1: over the course of the past three years have been
Speaker 1: peanut based, just because it's so easy. You just spread
Speaker 1: like it's it's a source of protein, it's a source
Speaker 1: of delicious nous. It's the underdog of peanuts, and it
Speaker 1: is the best tasting. Yeah. Also, have you ever had
Speaker 1: a peanut cucumber jack black salad? Okay, I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this. I think I think wrinkles are underrated. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, wouldn't it be nice if
Speaker 1: you would look at someone with some really nice smile
Speaker 1: lines and say that person, that person has lived a happy,
Speaker 1: enjoyous life, or someone with crow's feet, and you'd say,
Speaker 1: you know that dude, Yeah, he's he's really he's really
Speaker 1: an observer. I can see like the way the crow's
Speaker 1: feet form that he's been looking and that look at wrinkles.
Speaker 1: Is it's something that we need to get rid of,
Speaker 1: that we need to hide, that we need to incheck
Speaker 1: with some botox, but something that we say, like that person,
Speaker 1: you could read their life story and their and their
Speaker 1: wrinkles and like celebrate them because I'm watching like all
Speaker 1: this I'm watching. I was watching some TikTok's on plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, Wow, people go to the limits
Speaker 1: of trying to trying to erase life from their from
Speaker 1: their face, And wouldn't be nice if, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a whole another conversation about like agism, Yeah,
Speaker 1: agism and how we treat older people or whatever. But like,
Speaker 1: instead of like discarding people, what if we like celebrated
Speaker 1: them and if we started celebrating them by like celebrating
Speaker 1: what we can visually see is like signs of aging.
Speaker 1: So our question is those tic taks did you end
Speaker 1: up like looking at the botox TikTok. Oh, there's there's
Speaker 1: some great little regimes and a little something here, a
Speaker 1: little something there, and they're going, it's a struggle. It's
Speaker 1: like a clash. Yeah, fill my face, make it look
Speaker 1: seamless like a Kendall. I just won't yo everywhere. No,
Speaker 1: I fully agree. We The way it came up for
Speaker 1: me recently was the new Top Gun movie has a
Speaker 1: moment very strange where they opened before the movie starts,
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise just addresses the camera and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm Tom Cruise. This is a movie I'm in. It's
Speaker 1: it's weird, but like there's just like people like Tom Cruise,
Speaker 1: let's let's you know, frontload that. But the movie was
Speaker 1: made three years ago, like it was made before the
Speaker 1: like two years ago, was made before the pandemic basically,
Speaker 1: and he has aged since then, and he has let
Speaker 1: himself like he has he has like Robert Redford early
Speaker 1: Robert Redford face. And I was like, yeah, like yes,
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise like that. That is not what I would
Speaker 1: have expected from Tom Cruise. And I do there are
Speaker 1: many things I don't appreciate about Tom Cruise. This is
Speaker 1: one of them because it feels like, you know, embracing
Speaker 1: of one's humanity in a way that I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a lot of from him. But I'm stuck on the
Speaker 1: fact that there's an opening of Top Gun where he says, hey,
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, and I'm in this movie. Why why what's
Speaker 1: that about? He's like, and we flew real planes, you know,
Speaker 1: you know how his whole thing is like I did
Speaker 1: the real stunts and like that should matter to you. Well,
Speaker 1: he was. It's such a it's so important to him
Speaker 1: that he is now starting his movies off, being like
Speaker 1: I flew a real plane. It was sick really up there.
Speaker 1: He's just not popular in my household. Again, why my
Speaker 1: husband is a psychiatrist. That would be one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I think he's scent work in our household either.
Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, although someone who has gone the opposite direction,
Speaker 1: I do feel like he's TikTok TikTok. And also somebody
Speaker 1: who now is before every one of our movies addressing
Speaker 1: us and being like, movies are good, right, we like movies.
Speaker 1: I don't see that. The Nicole Kidman we we had
Speaker 1: a recent screening with like the l A I Heart
Speaker 1: podcast team, and we had the theater to ourselves. It
Speaker 1: was very fun and the one kind of group chant
Speaker 1: that started was when before the Nicole Kidman had when
Speaker 1: you first see her high heel'll step into that puddle.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like Nicole Nile. Really, I think the world can
Speaker 1: all agree, Yes, that gets human, Yes that it's so
Speaker 1: funny that the movies are creed to Jurassic World, like
Speaker 1: you know, the class the cinematic classics, the classics. But
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's talk about wealth. So it the
Speaker 1: January six hearing hearings have been. You know, we cover
Speaker 1: the news. We were recording, as January said, was unfolding,
Speaker 1: recording every weekday thereafter, and we've been pretty on top
Speaker 1: of what, you know, what actually happened that day, and
Speaker 1: so a lot of what we had heard to this
Speaker 1: point felt like stuff that we knew about. This one
Speaker 1: felt different. People like Fox News didn't really seem to
Speaker 1: know what to do with themselves. There was a moment
Speaker 1: where they like they started out there like, well, what
Speaker 1: where's Jim Jordan's why are why aren't there more people
Speaker 1: like they're pushing back and then I guess they remember,
Speaker 1: oh that he refused to be a part of this,
Speaker 1: and then but then there's he's like, but yeah, this
Speaker 1: was really bad for the president. And there's three Fox
Speaker 1: News anchors up on camera and there's just dead air
Speaker 1: for like five seconds because they like don't know what
Speaker 1: to say, and then they're like, yeah, so any any
Speaker 1: thoughts and then the other person like yeah, yeah, no, um,
Speaker 1: we just like do what do we really know? There's
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of conservative outlets that are now mad,
Speaker 1: like the Washington Examiner. This is going to be the
Speaker 1: first time we do a Washington Examiner quote on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but they had, yeah, they had an editorial that was
Speaker 1: like this person is no longer fit to ever hold
Speaker 1: public office. And I don't know what what was you
Speaker 1: guys experience of of this hearing Does it does it
Speaker 1: change anything for you? Does it feel like it changed
Speaker 1: things for others? We don't watch Fox News, but this
Speaker 1: was a time when me and my husband really wanted
Speaker 1: to watch it to see what's going on. Then you know,
Speaker 1: we have our popcorn in our hands. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's it's the one time we wanted to watch it,
Speaker 1: and we we saw this moment as it happened, and so,
Speaker 1: you know, it felt it felt it felt real and surreal.
Speaker 1: It felt just they don't know what the hell they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're being caught, they're flailing, and then we turned the channel.
Speaker 1: Like that was enough for us to just to understand
Speaker 1: that this is this is shaking them up, This is
Speaker 1: shaking up Conservative America, this is shaking up the Republican
Speaker 1: Party right now, it's shaking up Trump and his family.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, just like that's that's something
Speaker 1: that a lot of us have been wanting for a
Speaker 1: long for a long time. My you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's been interesting watching these hearings too, because we lived.
Speaker 1: You know, people go back and remember that day, January six,
Speaker 1: and it was it was like out of this world.
Speaker 1: It was like a film, like a movie, like is
Speaker 1: this really happening? Especially you know in our I don't know,
Speaker 1: I can't talk for everybody, but like in my family,
Speaker 1: we were sitting there like watching just incredulously and and
Speaker 1: really wondering if anything is going to happen to these people,
Speaker 1: Like will these people that were watching on our screen
Speaker 1: right now storm the Capitol building? Will anything really happened
Speaker 1: to them? Will they really be held accountable? Will they
Speaker 1: hold accountable the people who stormed the the capital but
Speaker 1: not the folks who pushed them to do it or
Speaker 1: wink wink, hint hint made them do it, you know,
Speaker 1: just like all of these doubts about the American justice system,
Speaker 1: about just justice overall. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: our thoughts were, probably nothing's going to happen to these people,
Speaker 1: or they'll find a way out for someone will find them,
Speaker 1: you know, an excuse. And what if these were black
Speaker 1: and brown people, what would have happened to them? Almost
Speaker 1: immediately after this, So, you know, I follow these hearings
Speaker 1: halfheartedly with a grain of salt, not really hoping for
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know, yeah, not expecting a lot
Speaker 1: from the I mean I kind of I kind of
Speaker 1: feel similarly. I actually do watch other news outlets, like
Speaker 1: I watched Fox, Fox News. I watched other outlets because
Speaker 1: just to see how they're covering these sorts of things.
Speaker 1: I do feel that there was nothing that made me think, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the moment where there's going to be a
Speaker 1: big reveal, because I feel like there's been so many
Speaker 1: moments throughout his presidency where so many things were revealed
Speaker 1: and people turned a blind eye to it that I
Speaker 1: don't really see this information as very explicit and and
Speaker 1: very detailed as it was about you know, his reactions
Speaker 1: and some of the things he said. I don't see
Speaker 1: people actually using this as as as any sort of
Speaker 1: deterrent to like not support him or to even you know,
Speaker 1: go go go against him. Like I just feel like
Speaker 1: we've seen this time and time again that people would
Speaker 1: express erratic behavior, they would express uh, being fearful of
Speaker 1: speaking with him or engaging with him, and still there
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of movement. I was reading this morning
Speaker 1: that you know, there was the test the testimony that
Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson said that, you know, he tried to grab
Speaker 1: the wheel, you know why they were going to the
Speaker 1: capital at the Secret Service agents are now reportedly about
Speaker 1: to testify that he didn't actually try to grab the
Speaker 1: wheel and and and guide the car back to the capital.
Speaker 1: So it's just like this, this can go on and
Speaker 1: on the back and forth about it, and I just
Speaker 1: feel like people that truly support Donald Trump will continue
Speaker 1: to truly support him regardless of this testimony. So that's
Speaker 1: and there might be these little you know, these little
Speaker 1: bursts of oh they got him, oh this thing, oh
Speaker 1: that thing, But like now we know not to get
Speaker 1: too excited, yeah, about what this will mean in the
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. Yeah, And I struggle with like
Speaker 1: whether that means that we are just like the people
Speaker 1: have talked a lot during the early days of his
Speaker 1: presidency about the Overton window, like that idea that you know,
Speaker 1: the more outrageous his behavior, the more it like sort
Speaker 1: of normalized it, and therefore we're and I don't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any like my outrage is
Speaker 1: not changing how his followers feel about him. So it
Speaker 1: really is about like us getting together and organizing at
Speaker 1: some level, as difficult as that is in America. But
Speaker 1: I think so. The The thing that is like kind
Speaker 1: of like sticking out to me is that the rage thing,
Speaker 1: him throwing his lunch against the wall is feels like
Speaker 1: it's getting lumped in, like the the headline on Drudge,
Speaker 1: which is the main like sort of right wing media
Speaker 1: thing that I kind of check because I feel like
Speaker 1: Fox News and all those places, well, first of all,
Speaker 1: it's just like a huge amount of people go there.
Speaker 1: It's just one page with like various links and headlines,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people go there. And like the
Speaker 1: headline on Drudge was like the Don's rage, broken dishes,
Speaker 1: flipped table cloths, And it's like that that feels like
Speaker 1: the least noteworthy like revelation from yesterday, the revelations seemed,
Speaker 1: or from two days ago, the revelations seemed to be
Speaker 1: that he wanted And yes, they're going they're going to
Speaker 1: trend say that he never like reached for the steering wheel.
Speaker 1: I don't know how credible that is. I I do
Speaker 1: know that she, as you mentioned, was like detailed seemed incredible.
Speaker 1: Was like got to the position she was in in
Speaker 1: all these rooms because she was a conservative Trumpist, true believer,
Speaker 1: to quote the Washington Examiner. So like that's they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like kind of indisputable on this. But the so
Speaker 1: the detail of him being like I want to go,
Speaker 1: the detail of him saying like take the weapons scanners away,
Speaker 1: like he trying to get them to let the people
Speaker 1: who are coming to his speech and about to raid
Speaker 1: the capital have weapons, feels like there there are a
Speaker 1: couple of moments that she covered that feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: so this is a new detail where he was actively
Speaker 1: trying to make it so that more people would die
Speaker 1: and like more people like that they would have a
Speaker 1: more credible chance of having like a armed insurrection. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was the let my people in, they can
Speaker 1: march to the capital from here, let the people in.
Speaker 1: Take the mags away, the mag being the weapon scanners.
Speaker 1: I don't care that they have weapons. They're not here
Speaker 1: to hurt me. That's one that's that feels big to me,
Speaker 1: like just from I guess more history books than what
Speaker 1: his his followers are going to think. The president reached
Speaker 1: up toward the front of the vehicle to grab the
Speaker 1: steering wheel. Mr Angle from the Secret Service grabbed his arm.
Speaker 1: Mr Trump thing used his free hand to lunge towards
Speaker 1: body Angle and apparently for his neck. Like that feels
Speaker 1: like a big one. He was trying to go and
Speaker 1: be with the crowd as they were storming. And then
Speaker 1: the part like after the fact him like and this
Speaker 1: one feels almost like too. It feels like bad exposition
Speaker 1: in a movie. Because so Meadows and Siboloni met with
Speaker 1: the President and then they come out and Siboloni is like, well,
Speaker 1: we should do more to get this attack on the capitol,
Speaker 1: like scaled back or like to stop the attack on
Speaker 1: the capitol, and Meadows said, you heard him, pet he
Speaker 1: thinks Mike deserves it, which like that that is bad
Speaker 1: him fisted like exposition. But it I mean again, people
Speaker 1: are like, but she was there and she she knew.
Speaker 1: So like those three details of him like having it's
Speaker 1: not just like him being angry and rateful and unprofessional.
Speaker 1: It's him being part of a professional attempt to overthrow
Speaker 1: the government with weapons. Is the things that like, I
Speaker 1: feel like are our new details that will be in
Speaker 1: history books. I just don't know if they're going to
Speaker 1: matter or like get him arrested, right will they will? They?
Speaker 1: Who who's going to be writing the history books right now?
Speaker 1: With all that's going on with textbooks and the history books.
Speaker 1: That's another that's another episode. Yeah, that that's a that's
Speaker 1: a very good point. They will be in his history
Speaker 1: books from other in other country trees for sure, maybe
Speaker 1: not in the United States. Yeah, it just seems like
Speaker 1: there's there there is a lot of evidence right now
Speaker 1: that we're hearing that seems very damning, right and could
Speaker 1: shift how, you know, the outcome of him trying to
Speaker 1: run for president again or whatever you know, his motives are. Again.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I know some avid Trump supporters,
Speaker 1: and these details just don't even phase them. It's just
Speaker 1: fascinating like that that doesn't even face them, It doesn't
Speaker 1: It doesn't make them see him in any different light.
Speaker 1: Because what Leela, like, I'm trying to understand, like the
Speaker 1: ever since grab him grab them by the p you know,
Speaker 1: it's been thing after thing after thing after thing. What
Speaker 1: do people who support him say, like it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: or all he's just kidding All boys will be boys.
Speaker 1: Olive The above I still don't get it, and I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm ever going to get it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they do say all of the above. They say
Speaker 1: that the media has has misrepresented him, twisted media, fake media.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's just a lot of conversation around. Uh,
Speaker 1: you can present all the facts, you can present all
Speaker 1: this information, and the end it's just it's like having
Speaker 1: a discussion, that is, it doesn't even go anywhere In
Speaker 1: many cases which I've found, I think, I look at this,
Speaker 1: I feel like very like personal about it because I
Speaker 1: have had so many family members, not so many, but
Speaker 1: I do know quite a few people. I'm from Las Vegas, Nevada.
Speaker 1: I have some high school friends and people that I
Speaker 1: grew up with that we've had some pretty heated discussions
Speaker 1: about it, and there's just there seems to be no solution.
Speaker 1: There seems to be no understanding of each other, and
Speaker 1: we just agree to disagree and move on. So that
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. I'm from Sudan in East Africa, and
Speaker 1: we have a dictator, and a lot of people love
Speaker 1: the dictator right like like the they there's like this
Speaker 1: idea of the strong man who's gonna take care of
Speaker 1: all of us. It doesn't matter what he does, but
Speaker 1: he's you know, there's the respect, and he has this
Speaker 1: military uniform. So therefore part of it is fear of
Speaker 1: what can happen if this person does not when like
Speaker 1: what kind of chaos will be unleashed on us? But
Speaker 1: there's definitely Yeah, there's definitely I've heard this before somewhere,
Speaker 1: but just not in the US. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of like immigrant people, immigrant families are
Speaker 1: just like shocked by, Like we come from these countries
Speaker 1: where this is this is the norm, and we've never
Speaker 1: imagined this would this would be the case here in
Speaker 1: the US, that there would be somebody like a Trump
Speaker 1: and that end that the worst thing, that people will
Speaker 1: actually vote for this man and support him and defend him.
Speaker 1: It just sounds so it's just I don't know, we
Speaker 1: didn't believe this would happen here, and it's shocking. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people for whom
Speaker 1: like these details make them like happy and make them
Speaker 1: feel like he is doing what we hoped he would
Speaker 1: do in this situation. You know, a lot of Trump supporters,
Speaker 1: I I do just wonder about the any Republicans like
Speaker 1: mainstream Republicans who are still left on his side. If
Speaker 1: this like it seems like it did for this Cassidy
Speaker 1: Hutchinson person like who went in as a loyal Trumpist
Speaker 1: and then saw this behavior and was like you, like
Speaker 1: you know it in terms of his electoral fortunes and
Speaker 1: in terms of like the future of the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: like anything that can be done to make that worse,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm happy for. And I do feel like
Speaker 1: in some ways this has to have been bad for
Speaker 1: any future plans they had, because I think in one case,
Speaker 1: like it's going to be hard for them to make
Speaker 1: a legitimate claim that like he's still he's still all
Speaker 1: right in our book. And on the other hand, there's
Speaker 1: absolutely no way he's not going to run just because
Speaker 1: people told him not to, And so maybe you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to Republican candidates not running. I mean, that's we
Speaker 1: will see, I could. I think honestly, it also feels
Speaker 1: like a just an overall kind of American dreadful lack
Speaker 1: of awareness of history and world history for that matter,
Speaker 1: whether it's like an education problem or a head in
Speaker 1: the sand problem, Like I really think Republicans do count
Speaker 1: on or I mean most candidates, both sides counting on
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody is so living in the moment
Speaker 1: and kind of, you know, in the interest of moving forward,
Speaker 1: that we never ever look back at anything that has
Speaker 1: happened before and pay attention to default or previous encounters
Speaker 1: of any president we've had. It's like there's no kind
Speaker 1: of picking up the the the the pieces of history
Speaker 1: that have led to where we are now and saying
Speaker 1: let's not make these mistakes again. And I think the
Speaker 1: GOP kind of counts on that and says we could
Speaker 1: just keep running it because they're not paying attention and
Speaker 1: it's just going to keep happening. And whether that's a
Speaker 1: conscious decision or just like a facet of the same
Speaker 1: kind of problem of just a lack of awareness of history,
Speaker 1: I guess kind of remains to be seen. But it
Speaker 1: just feels so strongly like there's no learning moving forward.
Speaker 1: There's just kind of repeating the same thing over and over,
Speaker 1: and those repeated phrases getting more and more extreme. Hence
Speaker 1: the battle over textbooks that don't want A lot of
Speaker 1: them don't want you to know, you know, the truth
Speaker 1: of how history actually want well, because I don't have
Speaker 1: a great way to transition from that to the words
Speaker 1: big cheese at toast on. We're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break and then we will be right back. I
Speaker 1: mean big it big yeah, alright, okay, yeah, see this
Speaker 1: is why I shouldn't be the host of this show.
Speaker 1: And word back and Dan, I'm just gonna throw it
Speaker 1: over to you because you you put this on my radar. Indeed,
Speaker 1: I'm ashamed to say I wasn't up on this. This
Speaker 1: is one of those things where I like to text
Speaker 1: the group chap beforehand and say, did you guys already
Speaker 1: talked about this? And when Jack says no, my eyes
Speaker 1: just light up. So as a little bit of context
Speaker 1: for mean imagine most of the listeners know, but for
Speaker 1: our wonderful guests today, we are just woefully obsessed with
Speaker 1: fast food and all of the many facets and it's
Speaker 1: and it's moves in terms of offering just completely off
Speaker 1: the wall dishes to the people of the world. And
Speaker 1: anytime one of these pops up, we all hit each
Speaker 1: other and say, Okay, who's eating it first? And this
Speaker 1: was another one for words too hyphen it did big
Speaker 1: cheese it tostada. I saw that and I went, oh, baby,
Speaker 1: we're lighting up the group chat today. So yes, that's right,
Speaker 1: gang Taco Bell is going off once again with this
Speaker 1: enormous cheese that's stuffed into a cruntrap Supreme, the only
Speaker 1: supreme thing anything as far as I'm concerned, and at
Speaker 1: the base of a tostada, and it's the next thing
Speaker 1: I'm trying this weekend when I'm making bad decisions, and
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. So you are you? Are
Speaker 1: you scream pizza or Supreme? Uh pizza? You know I
Speaker 1: don't like scream pizza too many peppers, but again exactly so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it has the Supreme Court ruined the word
Speaker 1: supreme for yes we can. Yeah, we need to supreme
Speaker 1: change his name. They okay, So the crunch wrap Supreme,
Speaker 1: for people who don't know, is the It looks like
Speaker 1: a disc with a soft tortilla wrapped around it. Inside
Speaker 1: is all of the ingredients that Taco Bell offers. I
Speaker 1: think the beef set the season, beef, lettuce, tomatoes, one
Speaker 1: of the dressings, cheese, and then a crispy tortilla in
Speaker 1: the middle. Traditionally crispy tortilla, but replaced replaced with this
Speaker 1: delicious enormous cheesy monstrosity that is the big cheese it. Mhm,
Speaker 1: So it's a whole cheese it's it's a cheese it
Speaker 1: but but it but it covers the whole sandwich or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. The yeah kind of like yeah, you know, no,
Speaker 1: you're good. It's just like a big circular wrap. And
Speaker 1: then in the middle kind of step breading the meat
Speaker 1: from the cold ingredients, which I'm that's just a revelation
Speaker 1: in general, like you know, you're not mixed. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about like the meat making
Speaker 1: the lemon or the the lettuce and the tomato too wilty.
Speaker 1: You have this nice barrier in between, so you get
Speaker 1: that bite and everything stays fresh. Amazing. And they just
Speaker 1: replaced that genius barrier with a giant cheese it. And
Speaker 1: I can hear people's stomachs just sing in an angel's chorus.
Speaker 1: It is it is a gift unto us that has
Speaker 1: been bestowed by this enormous conglomeration that isn't giving all
Speaker 1: of this problems. Where is the cheese melted cheese underneath
Speaker 1: and under the cheese it under the cheese it with
Speaker 1: the meat. It appears that there is melty melty melt cheese.
Speaker 1: I think that you are you are, you are absolutely
Speaker 1: right about that. Yes, you have those little little bits
Speaker 1: of cheese just sneaking through the meat. There. Of course,
Speaker 1: every wonderful good thing comes with an unfortunate catch, and
Speaker 1: that is the fact that this will kill you. Well,
Speaker 1: that that is catch number A. But catch letter B
Speaker 1: is the fact that for all of our friends outside
Speaker 1: the the state of California, this delicious treat is only
Speaker 1: available at one single Taco Bell location near the headquarters
Speaker 1: in Irvine, California. Now, for some people, they're turning off
Speaker 1: the podcast and say, how could you tease me with
Speaker 1: such delicious information? But I know at least three or
Speaker 1: four friend groups that are planning their pilgrimages as we speak, saying,
Speaker 1: get the minivan, we're getting in the car this weekend
Speaker 1: and we're going to Irvine. That's such an l a
Speaker 1: adventure completely, just like when Raising Canes opened in Burbank
Speaker 1: and all of us who were too lazy to go
Speaker 1: down to Englewood or we're not even close enough to
Speaker 1: the one in Alhambra, decided to finally get a taste
Speaker 1: of that delicious chicken over in Burbank. I have a
Speaker 1: daughter in college and she is at you see, Irvine.
Speaker 1: We will do going down and moving her in and
Speaker 1: visiting every weekend. Now just to try. I did not
Speaker 1: know the Taco Bell headquarters was an Irvine. Now you know.
Speaker 1: Now you know, Now you know. I haven't gotten the
Speaker 1: Taco Bell in such a long time. But cheese. It
Speaker 1: will make me go, you know, just take take that opportunity,
Speaker 1: take that opportunity to say, you know what, they're doing
Speaker 1: something fun and difference. I'm going to give it another shot.
Speaker 1: I love the great They're amazing. Okay, real quick, in
Speaker 1: your personal opinion, did extra toasty cheese? It's is that
Speaker 1: over you? Not your bag? Okay? Just the playing old
Speaker 1: maybe the white cheddar one. Maybe the white cheddar They're
Speaker 1: so good. Now, Extra toasty is for people who aren't familiar.
Speaker 1: Is like burnt cheese. They were like people like these
Speaker 1: burnt cheeses. This is the first time that I've thought
Speaker 1: that maybe you might need a burnt cheese it because
Speaker 1: my one concern with this is that it gets a
Speaker 1: little soggy, like the way that the way that a
Speaker 1: cracker reacts to soup like sometimes, which I still't like
Speaker 1: I I prefer a crouton because it it retains a
Speaker 1: crunch a little bit. Where's a cracker, like if I
Speaker 1: throw a cheese it. Although I think I have thrown cheese.
Speaker 1: It's in soup and they hold up pretty well, so
Speaker 1: we might be okay. I might have just talked my
Speaker 1: way out of that one. I think you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they would have done this to us. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, like that nice buttery cheese. It it can
Speaker 1: find a way to kind of crumble in your hands
Speaker 1: or melt in your mouth as it does. It's so delicious.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a thickness quotient here that talk
Speaker 1: about has taken into account. But considering it for the
Speaker 1: for the structural backbone of one of their most popular items,
Speaker 1: do you know why it's just at that one restaurant?
Speaker 1: Like are they testing it out to see if they're
Speaker 1: going to mass produces? You know, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Something tells me that it being near the HQ is
Speaker 1: like the testing grounds. The test kitchen is at the headquarters.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you from personal experience, you cannot
Speaker 1: simply just go to the headquarters and asked to see
Speaker 1: the test kitchen. Uh, they will kick you out of
Speaker 1: the building. And better security than the Capitol building significantly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the person at the front was not having it. Uh No,
Speaker 1: but I think it must be. It has to be
Speaker 1: a a radius to the headquarters thing where they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: thrown out there. And honestly it's succeeding. They're getting the clicks,
Speaker 1: they're getting the talks right now from fools like me
Speaker 1: who are going to see this and be like, gang,
Speaker 1: guess what the coolest thing ever just happened? Because I
Speaker 1: constantly starved of good news these days, and I take
Speaker 1: it where I can get it, exactly Jesus. It's being
Speaker 1: described as an abundantly cheesy and nostalgic yet magically modern
Speaker 1: dining experience. How is the nostalgic? If it's just if
Speaker 1: it's new, I think she's like for people who grew
Speaker 1: up on cheese, it's like that. That might be, But
Speaker 1: I was going to ask how it's modern because Taco
Speaker 1: Bell is not is not breaking any new ground here there.
Speaker 1: They're still around her recome has no idea. She doesn't
Speaker 1: do the junk like I do. Good for you, it's
Speaker 1: going to be like a French fast food restaurant. I
Speaker 1: can get free drive through, we can get a little
Speaker 1: bit of okay, bougie, Yeah, how a little bougie. I'm
Speaker 1: a little bougie. Yeah no, but we used to do
Speaker 1: like the Taco Bell used to have, like the sorry
Speaker 1: fifty nine cent tacos, remember that back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you would get like six of them. Yeah, get
Speaker 1: the box a little thing, bring it to a party
Speaker 1: or nobody's nobody's mad at that. Why is it sounding
Speaker 1: like a Fergie song? Doesn't Fergie has a have a
Speaker 1: song where she starts off like I was at the
Speaker 1: Taco Bell when I was little. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: horrible and know I swear there is a Fergie song
Speaker 1: where she starts off slide and then that's the life
Speaker 1: in the first line, thank you justin Glamorous, Glamorous by Fergie,
Speaker 1: I still going to talk about drive through. Raw's hell,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm still real no matter how many
Speaker 1: records I sell. Yeah, people, that was Jack Harlow. He
Speaker 1: sampled Glamorous for his song I don't yea to the rescue,
Speaker 1: the rescue, thank you, thank you, Justin. It's also go
Speaker 1: to the Taco Bell drive through raw as hell ye
Speaker 1: and shout out to it t easy regular Christie, I'm
Speaker 1: a Gucci man for iterating the same kind of idea
Speaker 1: with their now extremely viral tweet about you gol go
Speaker 1: to Taco Bell at midnight and still find a like
Speaker 1: Mercedes you know, Cel thirty five am g right in
Speaker 1: front of four people piled on top of a Vespa,
Speaker 1: right in front of like a broken down car with
Speaker 1: somebody in it. Everybody's eating Taco Bell. If you haven't
Speaker 1: tried to go through a Taco Bell drive through on
Speaker 1: foot and then turned away, then I don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell you. For the record, to them on a
Speaker 1: bike is the same as on foot, even though I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm in a vehicle, like, no, you're not. Oh, they
Speaker 1: won't let you. I only tried it walking because I
Speaker 1: didn't have a bike. I was way too drunk it
Speaker 1: through in the morning. Before bikes were like before city
Speaker 1: before yeah, before before these bicycles, these newfangled bicycles. I
Speaker 1: was on a penny farthing and I was too drunk
Speaker 1: to stay up top about your podcast that we stayed
Speaker 1: on this longer than the January six hearings. Uh says
Speaker 1: that we have a good show that we cover all
Speaker 1: the different angles of our societal decline. I think both
Speaker 1: the saw cultural and the political. Well good, Leila, you
Speaker 1: know it's been truly a pleasure having you on t
Speaker 1: d Z. Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You can hear us on all podcasts platforms,
Speaker 1: the Stup Podcast stories about the black diaspora, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going into our eighth season. You can also Uh
Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at the Stup Podcast and on
Speaker 1: Instagram the same handle. It's so good. Everybody needs to
Speaker 1: go listen. Is there a tweet or some work of
Speaker 1: social media that you've been enjoying. I I've been enjoying these.
Speaker 1: Mark Lamont Hill is a black journalist and I love
Speaker 1: his his his speed because it gives you a mix
Speaker 1: of news and nonsense and we need both right at
Speaker 1: the same time. So there's this thread that I've been
Speaker 1: following on Instagram though not on Twitter, and it's Black
Speaker 1: Music Month, so he's been posting these like what's the
Speaker 1: song everybody else loves that you hate? Or like what's
Speaker 1: the song that you can't get out of your head?
Speaker 1: Like that? And then people would reply, so this is
Speaker 1: the one I love from day eleven of Black Music Month.
Speaker 1: A song everybody else hates. I'm sorry, A song everybody
Speaker 1: else loves that you hate. And it's hilarious because you know,
Speaker 1: people would put a song up like this is how
Speaker 1: We Do It by Montel Jordan's and then like they'd
Speaker 1: get a hundred and ten likes and like replies they're
Speaker 1: just like, you know, how can you not like that song?
Speaker 1: But it's it's just therapeutic because I found a couple
Speaker 1: of the songs on here, like Return of the mac
Speaker 1: m everybody everybody loves it, I don't like it too much,
Speaker 1: and that this is the thread where you can just
Speaker 1: let it go and not be judged. Wow. I like that.
Speaker 1: That's good. We need that. Yeah, I like that. I
Speaker 1: gotta tweet Evan sent into some peeps because it's kind
Speaker 1: of resonating with me right now. And it's from I
Speaker 1: don't know who this is that she calls herself divine
Speaker 1: and she just says, stop being the one who makes
Speaker 1: all the effort, sit back and let the ship sink.
Speaker 1: And I know, I know, but I thought about this
Speaker 1: because I have so many people in my life when
Speaker 1: something goes wrong, they're just always trying to fix it.
Speaker 1: Something goes wrong at work, They're like, I have the solution,
Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. I can save
Speaker 1: this I can save this project. And sometimes you're the
Speaker 1: only person doing that and no everyone else has just
Speaker 1: kind of got their heads down doing their thing. And
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot, because we do
Speaker 1: stories about the black diasper, and I've been thinking about
Speaker 1: as black people, how it's kind of ingrained in us
Speaker 1: to fix things, whether it's our parents saying like we
Speaker 1: need equal you know, you know, to stand up for yourself.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's ingrained in my by my parents
Speaker 1: about like civil rights and just uh, sticking up for
Speaker 1: the underdog. And I always done that, but I think
Speaker 1: that sometimes we tend to carry that over into circumstances.
Speaker 1: But we don't always need to be that person and
Speaker 1: carry that weight. And sometimes other people need to carry
Speaker 1: the weight for you, and you can let them know
Speaker 1: that I've cared, I've carried enough, and maybe it's your
Speaker 1: time to step up. So I've been sharing that with
Speaker 1: a few people that I know have always been stepping
Speaker 1: up and always put the weight on their backs. That
Speaker 1: sometimes it's okay to step back. M that's a great message, Daniel.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you? Is there a
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying? You can find
Speaker 1: me on all the social media is and whatnot? Said
Speaker 1: DJ Underscore Daniel. You can find me on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't post. I don't post frequent
Speaker 1: frequently enough for my TikTok to be popping or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But if you want to watch the old
Speaker 1: video game clips, oh they're there. Um, and my work
Speaker 1: of social media is, as you can imagine, big cheese.
Speaker 1: It related. So CNN posted about the Big Cheese that
Speaker 1: and then someone replied, looks really gross. What we call
Speaker 1: food in America? Geez. And the response to that was
Speaker 1: it's called culinary expert pardon me, it's called culinary experimentation
Speaker 1: and it's the mark of strong culture. And I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree with that more. Thank you. That was from at
Speaker 1: Joe Clever at jo Underscore Clever Underscore, K. That's very funny,
Speaker 1: good job. But yeah, that's my piece of social media
Speaker 1: that I'm liking, and I'm sticking to it, all right.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying shirts that Go Hard. The Twitter twitter
Speaker 1: handle called shirts that go Hard. They're the one they
Speaker 1: have pinned is a shirt that says more Bous and
Speaker 1: it has a drawing of more bus with like a
Speaker 1: crystal ball in front of him and then orb is
Speaker 1: like in a different color in his name. There's one
Speaker 1: that says I'm not a player, I'm a gamer. Players
Speaker 1: get chicks. I get bullied at school and they're they're
Speaker 1: just like great old shirts that they dug up somewhere
Speaker 1: and I enjoy it. You can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page and website Daily zeit geis
Speaker 1: dot com. We post our episodes on our foot notes
Speaker 1: or link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Dani'll hit us with the music
Speaker 1: recommendation I got you from a artist who I discovered
Speaker 1: during the pandemic that an awesome live set, who actually
Speaker 1: recommended that live step before. Swarty just released a new
Speaker 1: album called Compact Objects with a animation that goes with it.
Speaker 1: But the song is called cold Man by Swarty. You
Speaker 1: can listen to it on Spotify Amazing tune. The whole album,
Speaker 1: Compact Objects, is just really enjoyable, happy music, and um,
Speaker 1: I recommend it to literally everyone. It isn't it isn't
Speaker 1: They like, you've got to be a fan of x
Speaker 1: y Z. Sure everybody can enjoy this, So I recommend
Speaker 1: cold Man by Sword. All right, we'll go check that
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