Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty nine,
Speaker 1: episode four of Dinies Like. It's a production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio, and this is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It is Friday,
Speaker 1: June third, which of course means that is National Donut Day.
Speaker 1: Oh I love a donut? Oh man the best? Oh
Speaker 1: Carl Tart. In the most recent episode of Mad Boost,
Speaker 1: He's reveal his biggest achilles heel as an athlete. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite donut? You've got a favorite donut aside from
Speaker 1: the Duncan sour cream that you put me onto in
Speaker 1: that faithful East Coast trip. I mean the Duncan sour
Speaker 1: cream is not the main sour cream. It would be
Speaker 1: Bill's Donuts or Bob's Donuts. I forget, Like we have
Speaker 1: a very similar one out here. That's Bills or Bob's
Speaker 1: in l A. But I think it's Bob's Donuts in Centerville, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Has the the O G really really dope sour cream
Speaker 1: don't that's basically just a cake doughnut with like real
Speaker 1: deeply embedded ingrained frosting goes all the way through. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like sweetness? How that a doughnut cannot be too
Speaker 1: sweet for me. Like that's the challenge. Like with me,
Speaker 1: there can never be too much garlic in the dish
Speaker 1: for me. There there is a there. It's impossible for
Speaker 1: you to encounter a doughnut too sweet for your per
Speaker 1: I want them to get physics involved, to try to
Speaker 1: cram as much sugar as possible onto and into the
Speaker 1: doughnut and then you know, put push the laws of
Speaker 1: physics to fully saturated even more with sweetness. That's just
Speaker 1: that's you want the scientists who are working on like
Speaker 1: climate change and cancer back means to be like no,
Speaker 1: not not not not not not try and make me
Speaker 1: a doughnut that will turn my mouth inside out with sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When people say something is too sweet, I I just
Speaker 1: have that part of my brain. Yeah, like the crispy cream.
Speaker 1: My favorite crispy cream is the frost it and then
Speaker 1: glazed or the glazed in them from which just double
Speaker 1: up daddy, okay, double daddy. Well, my name is Jack
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Speaker 1: the most impactful monsters from history. I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Grab. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's Miles Gray a K. I been kissed by rose
Speaker 1: in Portland. I've been kissed by a rose in Portland. Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to me. Shout out to the homie on
Speaker 1: the street of Portland who pulled up to me and
Speaker 1: I saw his brother in the street. He said, Miles,
Speaker 1: what's up? And I'm sorry that I said, do I
Speaker 1: know you? And You're like, I'm tight gang, and I
Speaker 1: was like, thank God, I love this town. I'm in
Speaker 1: Portland for a little bit. Shout out to everybody who's
Speaker 1: been giving me a little recommendations. Everybody has told me
Speaker 1: to go to the restaurant em which I will be
Speaker 1: going to which sounds delicious, but in general, you know,
Speaker 1: shout out to the Pacific Northwest. I realized, being a
Speaker 1: desert child, how refreshing it is to look at a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of trees. M And you've been kissed by
Speaker 1: some roses while you were there. Because it went to
Speaker 1: the Rose City. I went to that rose garden. You know.
Speaker 1: I tried to go to the Japanese Garden, but it
Speaker 1: was closed, so I couldn't make it before the recording.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's on my list. Well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: a very talented actor, producer, and activist. He originated the
Speaker 1: role of even the Poulter Prize winning and Tony nominator,
Speaker 1: played Disgraced. That's where I know him from, because I'm Coldy.
Speaker 1: But of course we also know him as Simon Drake
Speaker 1: on How to Get Away with Murder. I'm here on
Speaker 1: the shot from TV shows like The Good Place Chicago.
Speaker 1: P d ever heard of him. He's also a founding
Speaker 1: member of the Chicago Inclusion Project, which seeks to provide
Speaker 1: resources for underrepresented people in the art. It's Bezduble. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy to be back again. I love doing this podcast. Man,
Speaker 1: we love having you. Good seeing you man, good seeing
Speaker 1: you too. Where are you right now? I'm in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: But I want to chime in on the thing that
Speaker 1: like I wish NASA scientists would create more of and
Speaker 1: I could never have too much of. And for me,
Speaker 1: that is cilantro flavoring. Oh. I love when something has
Speaker 1: cilantro in it. I had a kicking curry the other
Speaker 1: day with cilantro and I was like, more cilantro. They're like,
Speaker 1: you just ate a mouthful of cilantro, sir, more cilantro.
Speaker 1: You want, Yeah, you want the molecular gastronomy where like
Speaker 1: they take you know, like seven thousand pounds of cilantro
Speaker 1: and then put into like one like tic tac shaped
Speaker 1: thing and you're like, your mouth may not recover from this.
Speaker 1: And you're like, please, there's a dish. I'm not sponsored
Speaker 1: by this restaurant, but there's a restaurant called Chinchin. It's
Speaker 1: like Chinese food. They have one in Beverly Hills, they
Speaker 1: have one in Studio City. Yeah, it's like a chain
Speaker 1: from the Yeah, so so they got the restaurant. So,
Speaker 1: you know, the other day I was like just hungry,
Speaker 1: ordered something and they have this thing called Anthony's Special
Speaker 1: Noodles Attention and I was like, well, what's special about Anthony?
Speaker 1: And like why is the special? But it really just
Speaker 1: they have they put a cilantro dressing on it. I
Speaker 1: was like, let me get that these noodles were delicious?
Speaker 1: Oh man, so and it had adequate cilant I mean,
Speaker 1: what's what do you what? What's how are their levels
Speaker 1: to it? I mean like most of time we see
Speaker 1: it as a garn It got garnished. I go, if
Speaker 1: you go to like a tacketia, like it's gonna be
Speaker 1: with onions chopped up, Like how do you want like
Speaker 1: in your mind in the ideal world, are you just
Speaker 1: saying handfuls of cilantro on top of stuff that doesn't
Speaker 1: that doesn't deter me? Like when you get when you
Speaker 1: get like a taco off a food truck and there's
Speaker 1: like almost like a whole like vine of cilantro. I
Speaker 1: love that I've got the good flavor. But you don't
Speaker 1: mind the stem, you you know, don't. I don't mind
Speaker 1: the stem at all. I don't mind the stem, but
Speaker 1: the stem kind of gives you a little crunch, but
Speaker 1: the Cilantro noodles, it was like more than just a garnish,
Speaker 1: Like there was Cilantro like flavor and the noodles, and
Speaker 1: I like that because you don't really get that flavor
Speaker 1: with like Asian dishes always. So that was that was
Speaker 1: pretty great. Anyway. That was just listening to you talk
Speaker 1: about Cilantro has convinced me that I have the soap thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the you know, the like some people taste
Speaker 1: Cilantro and they're like that tastes like like soap water.
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, oh, have you tried the
Speaker 1: Mountain Dew flavor soap water that's Cilantro based, But I
Speaker 1: didn't say that because I think they're just like when
Speaker 1: you look up like Cilantro flavor first article, why does
Speaker 1: cilantro taste like soap? And they treat it like it's
Speaker 1: a like it's a preference for those who appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Cilantro tastes like but I don't think it's appreciation because
Speaker 1: like when I've never had cilantro and tested, it tasted
Speaker 1: something that is citrusy, which is what I'm seeing people
Speaker 1: describe it as. It does not at all tastes like
Speaker 1: soap to me. But what does taste like toothpaste to
Speaker 1: me is root beer. And I think that's the thing too,
Speaker 1: Like root beer to me is just toothpaste. It tastes
Speaker 1: like crest. WHOA. I think you might be right. I
Speaker 1: think I think that might just be preference, and you
Speaker 1: putting that in people's heads might have just infected them
Speaker 1: and ruined root beer because I'm thinking about the taste
Speaker 1: of root beer and I'm like, damn, that is the
Speaker 1: problem with root beer. I do too, but like I
Speaker 1: never even thought about that ship. It does have like
Speaker 1: a minty crest flavor to it. Well, they said, if
Speaker 1: it depends, but likely the shared ingredient is winter green,
Speaker 1: which is like some like an extra winter beer of root. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just interesting what our brains like attached to because
Speaker 1: for me, like I take a sip root beer and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's when I brush my teeth, Like I
Speaker 1: brush my teeth with but yeah, it gets it gets
Speaker 1: you all funked up and you start brushing your teeth
Speaker 1: with a root beer because you're so confused. Your dentists
Speaker 1: like cavities based on what are you doing? Like I
Speaker 1: brush with root beer when it's a similar frothy foam
Speaker 1: that comes about when you're really getting down on some
Speaker 1: tooth brushing. And also just what what naturally happens on
Speaker 1: the type of root Here, I have gone from ever
Speaker 1: appreciating root beer to ginger beer. I like a ginger yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't drink I like ginger backer
Speaker 1: as my I like the bite. And you can't make
Speaker 1: it spicy enough. You can't. You can't do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can't give it to me. Tell me the spicy
Speaker 1: be I mean, I feel like in order of like
Speaker 1: spice factor, I feel like Reads is pretty good. I
Speaker 1: think Reads is the one that has the like version
Speaker 1: that is pretty commonly available, that says spicy on it.
Speaker 1: And that's the one that I've funk with the most.
Speaker 1: Cock and bull also has good has bite to it too.
Speaker 1: I haven't. Oh no, Reads is not the one Reads
Speaker 1: Reads extra that that's the one that I I have.
Speaker 1: It introduced me to ginger beer and has since I've Okay,
Speaker 1: so where do you want ginger beer? O? G what
Speaker 1: do you what do you? I gotta I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta find it. You gotta let me do some research here,
Speaker 1: Like what I do is I take a whole ginger,
Speaker 1: I stake it in a two leader or sprite for
Speaker 1: seven days. Jack says that there couldn't be that. He
Speaker 1: wants NASA scientists to inject all the ginger. Now, I
Speaker 1: have had like concentrated ginger juice or like whatever you
Speaker 1: get in the smoothie bar, and that is painful and
Speaker 1: mean that they even served that because they know people
Speaker 1: are coming and being like, oh, I've I've enjoyed ginger
Speaker 1: on sushi. I've enjoyed ginger beer, and that just tastes
Speaker 1: like concentrated pain. So maybe I just haven't had the
Speaker 1: right ginger beer that like like puts me in my place.
Speaker 1: I think the thing I'm thinking of this main root
Speaker 1: ginger beer, which has the that's available at like you know,
Speaker 1: Ralpes and whole foods and has a spicy variety. You
Speaker 1: might say, yes, my favorite word, today's bonus word. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, Basil, we're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
Speaker 1: We got another article that is scratching his head and
Speaker 1: wondering why can't Joe Biden catch a break. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the like what Amazon has set up at their warehouses.
Speaker 1: The it's wild like this, this isn't this isn't something
Speaker 1: they admitted. This was like it's black mirror. It's straight
Speaker 1: up black mirror. Yeah, I can't wait for this. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm very curious about this. I can't wait to put
Speaker 1: my application. Unfortunately, you saying you can't wait for this
Speaker 1: is actually taking me off task of trying to intro
Speaker 1: these stories for later, and that is time off task
Speaker 1: and that will actually get me fired. No longer interrupt.
Speaker 1: You are a top offender for your t ot for
Speaker 1: your top time off task over here. We'll have a
Speaker 1: chat later. We'll have a chat. We'll get to all
Speaker 1: that ship. But first base, I we like task our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? My latest search
Speaker 1: issue was from this morning. I woke up and searched
Speaker 1: how many snakes are there in the world, because because
Speaker 1: the actually a given time. But this is actually why
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble with it, because when you google it,
Speaker 1: they just keep all the answers tell you how many
Speaker 1: species but I want to know how many individual snakes
Speaker 1: are there in the world because I want to know,
Speaker 1: are there more snakes than humans? Yeah? This is that
Speaker 1: just reminded me that I had just I had promised
Speaker 1: to google how many fish are in the world for
Speaker 1: my kid and I never did it, But that was
Speaker 1: the that was there because of that question. Is like, wait,
Speaker 1: they're more fish than people. And the reason why I
Speaker 1: wanted to google it is because I'm terrified of snakes.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why I woke up, but I
Speaker 1: woke up with this like feeling that like there are
Speaker 1: more of them than us. So that's the little insight
Speaker 1: to my neuroses. I mean, yeah, it is really hard
Speaker 1: even if you search like snake population, you know, like snakes, snakes,
Speaker 1: global population. They say Brazil has the most species. If
Speaker 1: anyone's wondering about fish, it's three point five trillion. They
Speaker 1: have us outnumbered by a lot. They ever used to
Speaker 1: learn guns. The thing that scares me is like I go,
Speaker 1: I don't know years at a time without seeing a snake,
Speaker 1: So like, if there are more of them than us,
Speaker 1: then like are they all in one fucking place. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go near there, right, So you're
Speaker 1: afraid that you're gonna pull up to like inadvertently like
Speaker 1: stumble Upon like snake freak nick, and you're gonna be
Speaker 1: like what I did exactly. I thought it was sparsely populated,
Speaker 1: and you like, my brother lived in Australia, my my
Speaker 1: grandparents live in India, Like these are places where there
Speaker 1: are snakes. So like when I am on those twenty
Speaker 1: three hour flights to visit my family, believe me, like
Speaker 1: twelve of those hours, or like, am I going to
Speaker 1: see a snake? What am I gonna do if I
Speaker 1: see a snake? Like? How do I run from it? Do? I?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Right? So you know how
Speaker 1: like people give those uh statistics where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you're way more likely to die from being
Speaker 1: crushed by a cow than you are to die from
Speaker 1: being like eaten by a shark, like shark shark hacks
Speaker 1: are rare to the point of like being statistically an
Speaker 1: impossibility almost. So I was looking for that same statistic
Speaker 1: on snakes, and what I found instead was that globally,
Speaker 1: up to one thirty eight thousand people die due to
Speaker 1: snake bites every year with nearly two point seven million
Speaker 1: people suffering serious injuries. Oh my god, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of You're terrifying me. Like to man, you are correct.
Speaker 1: Your your snake phobia is correct. Snakes are terrifying. There's
Speaker 1: something like both spiders and snakes are like I I
Speaker 1: I know I came into this world with afraid of
Speaker 1: those two things like that. I did not have to
Speaker 1: learn that ship Like right, well, I guess that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I would. I'm ambivalent with snakes. I would
Speaker 1: say spiders A funk with spiders like you like yo, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like spiders. I think like so, like you're walking
Speaker 1: out there, you see a spider like in the corner,
Speaker 1: do you kill it? You just chill with it? You
Speaker 1: have I have like a whole I have like a
Speaker 1: whole thing up like analysis I go through of do
Speaker 1: I does this spider reserve to live or die? If
Speaker 1: it's tiny doing its thing, I'm like, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: bite me. You're not one of those spiders I gotta
Speaker 1: worry about. So I'm like, do your thing, man, just
Speaker 1: just chill. If they're big and they look like nasty.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I look on the phone just to kind of
Speaker 1: identify and make sure I'm not, you know, taking a
Speaker 1: needless spider life. And if it is something that bites,
Speaker 1: I smushed the ship out of it, and I leave
Speaker 1: it there as an example for the other motherfucker's You know,
Speaker 1: if this is your homie, you do not want to
Speaker 1: fucking be here. But if you're a chill spider, I
Speaker 1: got your back. I might even throw you an occasional fly.
Speaker 1: You put a little little torches next to the one
Speaker 1: that you smashed, just so there it. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: use a microscope and I do all kinds of very
Speaker 1: interesting art with the corpse. So yeah, Like I I
Speaker 1: think I have a penchant for being able to spot snakes.
Speaker 1: I've been on a hike with people before in rattlesnake
Speaker 1: country and I was like just spotting them, like just
Speaker 1: you know, they can with flash pretty good. And I
Speaker 1: was The people were like, how did you see that?
Speaker 1: You have an evolutionary trait that would keep you alive?
Speaker 1: Whereas me, like the times I've been on like a
Speaker 1: nature walk or with with somebody who's nature saying like,
Speaker 1: oh you check out that snake over them, Like bro,
Speaker 1: I was just over there and I didn't even realize
Speaker 1: that ship. So okay, I mean there's there's advantages to
Speaker 1: this Jack mhmm maybe or maybe I'm just gonna get Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just don't don't go to the subreddit. What could go wrong? Uh?
Speaker 1: And the snake content because it's always bad? Oh man?
Speaker 1: What what is something you think is overrated? Beza overrated?
Speaker 1: You ready? Yeah? Celebrities And I don't mean and I
Speaker 1: don't mean celebrities like, oh, I'm a fan of someone.
Speaker 1: They inspire me. I know their story, their journey is inspiring.
Speaker 1: I love that. If someone says like, oh, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Denzel Washington because I followed his
Speaker 1: whole career or something like that, that's awesome. When I
Speaker 1: meet celebrities, I mean, what's happening is like, you know,
Speaker 1: last week I read that Gwyneth Paltrow, Kim Kardashian, and
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg all endorsed Rick Caruso. And I'm seeing, like
Speaker 1: that isn't overrated? Why does that matter? Like? Why does
Speaker 1: why does If Snoop Dogg endorsed a new young rapper,
Speaker 1: I would like to listen to that. If Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: is endorsing a reality show, or a skincare brand. Cool,
Speaker 1: But like when they're endorsing politicians, I'm like, why do
Speaker 1: we care? That's an overrated thing that matters. The Amber
Speaker 1: heard Johnny Depp trial is overrated for us to care about.
Speaker 1: It's all like to me, the sort of influence that
Speaker 1: celebrities have on things that are outside of the thing
Speaker 1: that made them celebrities is overrated. Yeah, well yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we live in a world where we just say, well,
Speaker 1: if this person is successful, they must have their ship together.
Speaker 1: And therefore, if they like this guy who is you know,
Speaker 1: his whole career is about like displacing people in the
Speaker 1: u in in the city of l A to make
Speaker 1: malls and ship you must they must have something, right.
Speaker 1: I mean with the Amber heard Johnny Depp thing, I
Speaker 1: think that's dangerous because it's so that verdict has basically
Speaker 1: it's given a lot of people on the right this
Speaker 1: idea that they're like you see in the Me Too
Speaker 1: movement was completely blown out of proportion, and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's not what this is about. And also, but that's
Speaker 1: why it's so fucked up, because we're look, people are
Speaker 1: looking at that ship so uncritically and they're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't wonder what happened there when it's like this
Speaker 1: is it. This has created a very a much more
Speaker 1: hostile environment for anyone who's been through any kind of
Speaker 1: domestic violence, because this is sort of the precedent that
Speaker 1: we're beginning to see is like, oh yeah, don't even
Speaker 1: don't even name the person who may have abused to
Speaker 1: and then all of this ship can go down. It
Speaker 1: harkens me back to a Chappell's skit when I was
Speaker 1: in college where jaw Rule had a political opinion and
Speaker 1: Shepell was like, I don't given what jaw Rule thinks
Speaker 1: about like my vote, like just us, you know, And
Speaker 1: I don't want to it's dangerous because I don't want
Speaker 1: to make it sound like I'm doing like the shut
Speaker 1: up and dribble thing, right. I'm not saying like Lebron
Speaker 1: James can't have an opinion, he should shut up and dribble.
Speaker 1: That's about human rights. Lebron's a human It makes sense.
Speaker 1: But like the celebrity endorsements matter a lot, and it's
Speaker 1: a it's a fine line because I'm not an advocate
Speaker 1: of the shut up and dribble stance, but I I
Speaker 1: don't know why I have that line, but I do.
Speaker 1: I just wish he hadn't chosen jar rule because jar
Speaker 1: rule is where I get most of my political opinions
Speaker 1: from and all my ideas on you know what, like
Speaker 1: parties to go to and stuff with that. And I
Speaker 1: feel like he he doesn't miss a lot. So you
Speaker 1: missed out on the whole g unit era because you
Speaker 1: were so mad about that. Yeah, you're like, he doesn't
Speaker 1: respect Ja rule. So I got to go to a
Speaker 1: pretty cool already with some pretty great cheese sandwiches. So
Speaker 1: who's whose last? Yeah, for people who aren't in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: Rick Caruso is you know, a pro police, anti choice
Speaker 1: Republican who is running as a Democrat for mayor of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And he's also a billionaire who made his
Speaker 1: money building malls and displacing people. I have a feeling,
Speaker 1: you know, there's that there's all for all the people
Speaker 1: listening at home to This is the primary and if
Speaker 1: he gets fifty point one percent of the primary vote,
Speaker 1: there will be no election. He will automatically win. And
Speaker 1: uh that is maybe looking likely or not likely, but possible. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: he he is like outspent his opponents, like you know,
Speaker 1: I I could wallpaper one of the rooms in my
Speaker 1: house with all of the mailers and ship that have
Speaker 1: like come into my you know, mail looks for for
Speaker 1: the Rick Crusoe campaign and just like shipping on anybody
Speaker 1: who happens to be running against him. It's like he
Speaker 1: bought my neighborhood. When I walk in the morning, like
Speaker 1: I have a little daily well, you know, he may
Speaker 1: have actually bought your neighborhood. It's like it's like there
Speaker 1: there are signs for this man on every long and
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, like, how is he tricked you? All?
Speaker 1: All right, let's take you a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about something that's under age, and we're back
Speaker 1: and Basil, we also like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Okay, I'm very excited
Speaker 1: for this. I don't even know the word for this,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to use the word like kitchen a
Speaker 1: coutra mons. Okay. So I have lived alone for fifteen years,
Speaker 1: you know, the majority of that time single, and for me,
Speaker 1: I had like you know, I have plates, I have
Speaker 1: smaller plates. I have bowls. I have slightly larger bowls
Speaker 1: for like cereal, and then I have like spoons forks
Speaker 1: and knives and that's it. Oh and then like glasses,
Speaker 1: like eight ounce glasses for water, like that's it. Recently,
Speaker 1: my girlfriend moved in with me, okay, and brought with
Speaker 1: her every style of bull spoon cup, uh, serving plate,
Speaker 1: this plate, a plate for this, a spoon for that,
Speaker 1: a little knife for this. And when we were unpacking,
Speaker 1: I said, what could you possibly need this tiny dish
Speaker 1: where She's like, oh, that's like what you would put
Speaker 1: like condiments in. Yeah, And I'm like, okay, well then
Speaker 1: this bowl is like what you would put like nuts in. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: this thing is like when you would put like this
Speaker 1: is like a serving bowl for like a salad. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a serving bowl for like a sup Well,
Speaker 1: this is a serving before I'm telling you there is
Speaker 1: a there is a thing for everything, and I was
Speaker 1: I was bashing it and I was making fun of her.
Speaker 1: But over the last couple of months, can I tell you,
Speaker 1: like it is amazing, Like there is a She has
Speaker 1: a small electric whisk to whisk a cappuccino with y yeah,
Speaker 1: a little are you you sound like you've been living
Speaker 1: in a van or something. She got this cup with
Speaker 1: a blade at the bottom. You put ice in it
Speaker 1: hit a button and it cried. I'll tell you, I've
Speaker 1: just lived with like plates, bowls, sporks, not like like
Speaker 1: she's got. There's like little spoons that are good for this.
Speaker 1: There's got like I mean, I'm telling you it's amazing.
Speaker 1: So that is underrated. Like if anyone out there is
Speaker 1: living the way I was living, go out and get
Speaker 1: yourself one of these things they call a girlfriend who
Speaker 1: can bring you some kitchen and coou tramas along to
Speaker 1: the house. Are you do you cook a lot? I
Speaker 1: mean I thought I did until she moved in. I
Speaker 1: have like a frying pan. Yeah, I had like a
Speaker 1: crock pod. Was a crock pod chef. I'm a crock
Speaker 1: pod chef. I can make some meals in the crock pot,
Speaker 1: and I'm really good at the fish. I can do
Speaker 1: the fish because I watched master fish, fish spatula. I
Speaker 1: do actually see. Okay, that's interesting. So you have these
Speaker 1: like very narrow moments. You're like, what because as a
Speaker 1: guy was like I got forks, knocks, plates, bowls, cups.
Speaker 1: And that's because that's because I, uh, I learned to
Speaker 1: cook by watching Masterclass, like all those chefs on that masterclass,
Speaker 1: and and like Gordon Ramsey was like you must have this. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Chef Ramsey puts you on to the Yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: but no, I mean I thought I could cook, but
Speaker 1: now I know I cannot cook. I'm I'm the inferior
Speaker 1: cook in the household by a magnitude of time. I
Speaker 1: have like the the inability to match, but like keep
Speaker 1: a matching set of bulls together, we just have so
Speaker 1: much mismatched ship. And like and I go to other
Speaker 1: people's kitchens and they have like one set of like
Speaker 1: cooking you know, utensils, and then like a set of
Speaker 1: bowls that I'll match each other, and I'm like, did
Speaker 1: you did you? Guys? Just like win this on the
Speaker 1: prices right like a kitchen set? How How does how
Speaker 1: does one live like this and have everything in its
Speaker 1: place and no extra things from like you know, twelve
Speaker 1: years ago that you haven't used since then, but still
Speaker 1: like kind of stick around. I think, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got kids, have your kids broken stuff? You probably
Speaker 1: to shift what you eat off of when you have
Speaker 1: some kids. I feel like me as a newlywed, my
Speaker 1: ship is looking like what you're talking about. Hmm. I'm like,
Speaker 1: my bowls matched, now, my plates match now? Because what's
Speaker 1: that Zola dot com told me how many plates I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to ask for for being married? Because I don't
Speaker 1: know what the fund is supposed to do. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely enjoy that consistency. But I'm also seeing, like
Speaker 1: I break ship too, and you know, six cups become five,
Speaker 1: become four, and then you augment that with two that
Speaker 1: don't match, and then total chaos. It's it's a it's madness.
Speaker 1: It's total chaos, total chaos down there, baby, Come on,
Speaker 1: this is total chaos. Hold on, this is creating barrel
Speaker 1: and this one CB two you don't match. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about why doesn't anyone like Biden? It's a
Speaker 1: it's a whole like, yeah, I think all of these
Speaker 1: pieces as the same thing over and over. What can
Speaker 1: what can Joe possibly do to get people to like him?
Speaker 1: Have bts visit the White House? What needs to harry
Speaker 1: styles we can get him? Well? That help tell us?
Speaker 1: And so this article in the newer Polist referencing like
Speaker 1: these two article is that have come out from the
Speaker 1: Washington Post and NBC that are just like kind of
Speaker 1: talking about the tension that exists in the White House
Speaker 1: where Joe Biden is like really confused, pissed, and like
Speaker 1: no one knows what to do. This one is from
Speaker 1: the NBC article. It says quote Biden is rattled by
Speaker 1: his sinking approval ratings and is looking to regain voters
Speaker 1: confidence that he can provide the sure handed leadership be
Speaker 1: promised during the campaign. People close to the president say rattled.
Speaker 1: He is, He's absolutely rattled. This other one this from
Speaker 1: the Washington Post. The White House launched a new push
Speaker 1: Tuesday to contain the political damage caused by inflation, after
Speaker 1: President Biden complained for weeks the Aids that his administration
Speaker 1: was not doing enough to publicly explain the fastest price
Speaker 1: increases in roughly for decades. It's not what that cat
Speaker 1: be me. What's their explanation. Well, it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a bit of a double edged sword because on one
Speaker 1: side you can say, well, there's inflation, there's also a
Speaker 1: lot of wacky price hikes going on from companies who
Speaker 1: have not who have just their lesson from the pandemic
Speaker 1: has been like, yeah, man, people gonna pay through the
Speaker 1: teeth for fucking anything. So let's just let's just keep
Speaker 1: turning the heat up. The other part is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's that that at one point, at one point nine
Speaker 1: trillion dollars stimulus. They love pointing at that one, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that's when Janet Yelling was like, I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I should have said that that was gonna
Speaker 1: suck everything up. Yeah, every mainstream media outlet, it feels
Speaker 1: like they've all kind of come together on that one,
Speaker 1: even though we have evidence that a lot of it
Speaker 1: is caused by just corporations being like, what if we
Speaker 1: had record profits though instead of just like a lot
Speaker 1: of profits, what if we have like the best profits ever?
Speaker 1: Uh during a pandemic when people said, is there less
Speaker 1: gas in the ground? No, no, no, that we got
Speaker 1: plenty of gas. Just that you know, there's there's a
Speaker 1: warrant ship and I can use all these explanations to
Speaker 1: just get get these ships to eight dollars a gallon.
Speaker 1: I forget who it was, one of those you know,
Speaker 1: one of those far right senator people. I think it's
Speaker 1: Madison Cawthorne or something like that, had posted on Twitter
Speaker 1: on Twitter that they had posted a sign of a
Speaker 1: gas station in France, and it was like, see how
Speaker 1: cheap gases And first there was the euro dollar equational
Speaker 1: they didn't make, but also that gas there is by
Speaker 1: the leader, and so when someone did the math, they
Speaker 1: were like, actually, equivalent would be like seven dollars and
Speaker 1: fifty cents, And so it was like it was like
Speaker 1: their way of you know, shipping on Biden's gas prices.
Speaker 1: But it was like, no, it's a global thing. My
Speaker 1: my my friends. Don't look at Exxon Mobile or Shell,
Speaker 1: don't don't ask them what's happening. It's it's easier for
Speaker 1: the right wing, like it's Joe Biden rather than our donors.
Speaker 1: It's smoking easy, like they say. And this whole article
Speaker 1: goes on like what's the secret to turning this around?
Speaker 1: Like they to go on to talk about is it
Speaker 1: the inflation, is it the COVID? Is it overpromising and underselling?
Speaker 1: You know? And they say underselling, underselling his own accomplishments.
Speaker 1: And it constantly references like how even if Biden is like,
Speaker 1: you know, confirming judges at a record pace and unemployment
Speaker 1: numbers are low, and the and the author of the
Speaker 1: piece realizes too, it makes no difference to most voters,
Speaker 1: because it's all about what they're feeling, what they're experiencing
Speaker 1: living in the United States, and right now it feels
Speaker 1: like utter chaos and nothing is being done about anything,
Speaker 1: and everything costs too much more than someone being like well,
Speaker 1: I mean, even Mitch McConnell helped confirm some judges like
Speaker 1: nobody gives a ship up, Like people really don't give
Speaker 1: a shit about that, so let that go. I think
Speaker 1: what would have been better if this article just kind
Speaker 1: of says, yeah, Joe Biden can't get out of this
Speaker 1: hole because he is what we call a president during
Speaker 1: late stage capitalism, you know, like it's for since the
Speaker 1: twenty one century, like every president has been basically underwater
Speaker 1: except for a few specific moments, whether that's like you know,
Speaker 1: Bush being like Iraq war is good or Obama's first
Speaker 1: a few months in office. Other than that, most presidents
Speaker 1: are not you know, they don't pull well. And I
Speaker 1: think because for decades, inequality has been growing but has
Speaker 1: been sort of this silent issue until like maybe the
Speaker 1: last ten years. And like our ethos as a people
Speaker 1: in America is to just never admit we're hurting, that
Speaker 1: we've just the problem gets worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 1: It's it's just unbearable now. And Biden finds himself at
Speaker 1: a point where nothing he says will actually change anything,
Speaker 1: because we are beyond the point of like empty gestures
Speaker 1: and like platitudes soothing people's like you know, fears around
Speaker 1: the future. Like people need action. That's really the only thing.
Speaker 1: That's all he needs to do. And the only like
Speaker 1: you know, policies where people are giving money and people
Speaker 1: are giving direct health like the you know, the US
Speaker 1: immune system as I've called it, like the way the
Speaker 1: US protects itself is so allergic to anything like that.
Speaker 1: And the fact that like now there is a confirmed
Speaker 1: national narrative that giving people money during a national global
Speaker 1: pandemic is like causing all of our problems is just yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's what he needs to do more ship like that.
Speaker 1: But there's no way he's going to get that message
Speaker 1: because the media is just so trained and so like
Speaker 1: down to a cellular level up at like the level
Speaker 1: of the super ego of like this entire like you know,
Speaker 1: political civilizational body, like it is all about preserving like
Speaker 1: hyper capitalism and hyper capitalism protecting it. So this well,
Speaker 1: this article even mentions right like a big thing when
Speaker 1: there was like we had a guest awhile back who
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, what could Joe Biden have done differently?
Speaker 1: One of the things to talk about is the child
Speaker 1: tax credit. How massively important that was for people, And
Speaker 1: in this article, the way they talk about it completely
Speaker 1: undercuts like how a human being would experience this like
Speaker 1: just and you know, they said, for all its inflationary impact,
Speaker 1: the initial one point nine trillion dollars to stimulus has
Speaker 1: given kept the unemployment rate well under four percent, and
Speaker 1: it's now expired provision. Expanding the childcare tax credit cut
Speaker 1: the monthly child poverty rate by yeah, now expired provision.
Speaker 1: So you can probably say that the child poverty rate
Speaker 1: has increased because it's just gone. It just swung right
Speaker 1: back to being you know, gone up. But that's it's
Speaker 1: just easy to be like now expired. That's really fucked up.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. I've read countless articles and
Speaker 1: interviews of people talking about how that child tax credit
Speaker 1: came couldn't have come at a better time for them
Speaker 1: when they're trying to put food on the table and
Speaker 1: you know, wrestle with like terrible wages or unemployment and
Speaker 1: things like that. So, yeah, there's just a lot of
Speaker 1: this bizarre kind of like I mean, I guess it
Speaker 1: could have been that, but we're just really this. It's
Speaker 1: like so much of the stuff we complain about with
Speaker 1: like the modern reporting of like what America is right now,
Speaker 1: it's like we're just locked in this shitty cycle of
Speaker 1: looking at solutions but letting the ideas die over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. You know, it's like police violence.
Speaker 1: Oh well, activists come out other people who are working
Speaker 1: in the streets with community saying, actually, we need more
Speaker 1: community support, we need less like armed thus and then
Speaker 1: the first question is we're gonna all perish without the police.
Speaker 1: It's not even experimenting with that. It's just saying, if
Speaker 1: we don't, if we don't keep the status quo, we're
Speaker 1: all fucked. Yet we're seeing in real time how fucked
Speaker 1: up the status quo is. Yeah, and yeah, we we
Speaker 1: There's this weird thing that's happening is that we're blaming
Speaker 1: people getting a child TASH credit, which is people under
Speaker 1: a certain income threshold getting like twelve hundred dollars or something.
Speaker 1: When I we recently read we know now that more
Speaker 1: billionaires were created during the pandemic than any any point
Speaker 1: in history. Every thirty hour. A billionaire in America was
Speaker 1: created every thirty hours during the pandemic. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's insane. So we need to be focused on the
Speaker 1: on the on the on different things. We're always focused
Speaker 1: on down below and never focused on like up above,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really interesting. My my dad is an
Speaker 1: architect and he always said he's like I spent so
Speaker 1: much time building beautiful ceilings, and no one ever looks
Speaker 1: up when they enter my buildings. And that's like a
Speaker 1: metaphor for life right now, is like we need to
Speaker 1: look up. We're so focused on on yeah, yeah, the yeah.
Speaker 1: I I think the police, like we we should understand
Speaker 1: the wave of crime stories that are that were all
Speaker 1: about shoplifting and how shoplifting is out of control, that
Speaker 1: like weren't true. We're not actually a problem other than
Speaker 1: like you know, the standard problem of caused by inequality
Speaker 1: and poverty. But that is the American the US immune
Speaker 1: system responding to the push for like more progressive police
Speaker 1: policies and all of the inflation stories and the stories
Speaker 1: about you know, how inflation is out of control. And
Speaker 1: the explanation that has just been very very clearly like
Speaker 1: settled on by the mainstream media. That's the immune system
Speaker 1: responding to the money that the government gave people. A
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, we were driving home. We were
Speaker 1: passing it pretty busy intersection in the valley and there
Speaker 1: were I don't know, twelve or thirteen cop cars checkpoint created,
Speaker 1: including a big patty wagon, and there was the whole
Speaker 1: thing set up, and when we finally the traffic was
Speaker 1: stalled for a while. When we finally got to the front,
Speaker 1: the cop was like, we're just checking registrations on vehicles
Speaker 1: and I was like, there are like thirty six of
Speaker 1: you here at this intersection in multiple cards, stopping traffic
Speaker 1: to just get people, just to get you on to
Speaker 1: expire that even it was the checking a checkpoint, and
Speaker 1: I was just like that even legal, Like they give
Speaker 1: the auto equivalent of like stopping frisk though, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's yeah, just trying to shake some change out of
Speaker 1: people's pockets. Basically, you know, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not public safety. And then this idea
Speaker 1: that like, oh, well they keep us safe, us like well,
Speaker 1: there's thirty six people here making I don't know how
Speaker 1: much a day. Some someone do the math on how
Speaker 1: much taxpayer salary that was happening during that time period,
Speaker 1: to just like, is it even worth the money they're
Speaker 1: gonna get out of people? It's just it's it's brutal, No,
Speaker 1: because what the whole the way this whole system operates.
Speaker 1: It's like that m Night Shamalan movie The Village, where
Speaker 1: in America, we all live in the village and we're
Speaker 1: trusting these mother ful to be like oh no, oh no,
Speaker 1: no no. Outside the village is so fucking spooky. You
Speaker 1: don't want to learn anything about except what we got
Speaker 1: here because this ship the truth. And a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, man, I don't know, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I saw a plane fly above. They're like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't. That's bullshit. Because we have to keep reinforcing
Speaker 1: this idea that the status quo is the all, the be, all,
Speaker 1: end all, and if we deviate from that, it will
Speaker 1: only end with our demise. Right, So if the police
Speaker 1: start feeling like, well, people are starting to think we
Speaker 1: were not really good at what we what we do, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to see more stories that create the illusion
Speaker 1: of this like massive crime wave, so our existence is justified,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, let's we need that.
Speaker 1: So now the sentiment is, oh God, thank god, there's
Speaker 1: the police not preventing all these things that I'm seeing
Speaker 1: over and over again, or like even with cap capitalism,
Speaker 1: right people, people right now are experiencing, you know, the
Speaker 1: worst parts of American capitalism, you know fully, and people
Speaker 1: might wring their hands at the mere mention of socialism
Speaker 1: of socialism, but we are actually living in the worst
Speaker 1: test case for capitalism right now. You can't blame socialism
Speaker 1: for jobs leaving the US. You can't blame socialism for
Speaker 1: the levels of child poverty that we're experienced, and you
Speaker 1: can't blame socialism for the lack of protection for workers
Speaker 1: and consumers. That's squarely on on the doorstep of capitalism.
Speaker 1: So how are you going to tell me what happens
Speaker 1: outside of that? If all I'm seeing is you proving
Speaker 1: every fucking time that this ship is not working right,
Speaker 1: you know? And I think that's and that's this like
Speaker 1: threshold that we're like waiting to cross, is to be
Speaker 1: able to like sort of shake off this like weird,
Speaker 1: you know, blind allegiance to like the business class of
Speaker 1: this country and start realizing we gotta do what's right
Speaker 1: for people, Like, look at what happens when you keep
Speaker 1: entrusting our policies in the direction of this country with
Speaker 1: the wealthy. All of it means every single policy is
Speaker 1: going to be aimed at protecting their own interests. And
Speaker 1: that's all we see. So that's why, Joe Biden, it's
Speaker 1: hard for you to get popular because the popular kids
Speaker 1: aren't fucking with capitalism right now, whether they know it
Speaker 1: or not, right, And that's and I think that's the
Speaker 1: and I think this is this whole dysfunction that our
Speaker 1: politicians and you know, like media class it just can't
Speaker 1: begin to voice and just finding every other way to say,
Speaker 1: like maybe it was like the Afghanistan thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the other that's the other one that they've like
Speaker 1: uniformly come together and been like he bungled the Afghanistan
Speaker 1: withdrawal and the inflations out of control. Is not like well,
Speaker 1: like we're about to lose the right or or like
Speaker 1: bodily autonomy around abortion. They still can't pass gun laws.
Speaker 1: He's still like dancing back and forth on forgiving student
Speaker 1: debt and that like those never get mentioned, those never
Speaker 1: get mentioned by I think, Yeah, I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing as because I've been thinking about this a lot,
Speaker 1: because we've I think so many of us have just
Speaker 1: felt so fucking powerless every fucking day is the news
Speaker 1: gets worse. But it's that like in general, we're not
Speaker 1: we need to normalize demanding better yeah, for ourselves from
Speaker 1: like our our fucking our system of governance. That it's
Speaker 1: not like it's the Democrats reports. We need to actually
Speaker 1: start saying this is what we all deserve and if
Speaker 1: you're not, if you're not able to deliver on that,
Speaker 1: that's the only the miss test or you know, rubric
Speaker 1: that we need to judge people on right now is
Speaker 1: that we need to be we need more people to
Speaker 1: understand that we need to deliver more tangible results for
Speaker 1: working people, for poor people. That's just it. And getting so,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, whatever this is and I think
Speaker 1: this is the ultimate. This is the constant back and
Speaker 1: forth in this country is like we're so caught up
Speaker 1: in this like binary of left and right Republican Democrat politics.
Speaker 1: Well that's like the majority of people are absolutely bearing
Speaker 1: the brunt of of all of it and not realizing like,
Speaker 1: you know, we've got our we've got our sights set
Speaker 1: on the wrong things, like Bezad saying like we need
Speaker 1: to be looking up. M hmmm, and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all got it. There's that quote or as a cartoon
Speaker 1: or something where you have like, you know, the sort
Speaker 1: of evil billionaire class elite above down making the middle
Speaker 1: class be afraid of the lower class like they've they've
Speaker 1: all convinced the middle class like, well, you need to
Speaker 1: be really afraid of this lower class with these immigrants,
Speaker 1: are these people over here or this minority or that
Speaker 1: disenfranchised group, instead of to keep them looking down, to
Speaker 1: to keep everybody distracted from looking up. So yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back. And yeah, so there's some new internal documents
Speaker 1: from the recently unionized Amazon warehouse in New York. They
Speaker 1: kind of show us what the working conditions are like
Speaker 1: at Amazon, and it like, as you said, mild, straight
Speaker 1: up black mirrorge. Yeah, this is so this all kind
Speaker 1: of comes out of a lawsuit regarding like a wrongful
Speaker 1: termination and they're saying like this like working there is
Speaker 1: like their process for even terminating someone is so inhumane
Speaker 1: and ridiculous. They do it by, first of all, like
Speaker 1: they measure everyone's productivity. And we've talked about that, like
Speaker 1: how people are like I gotta pean a bottle, or
Speaker 1: like I can barely go to the bathroom. We've heard
Speaker 1: about how like they're you know, really on top of
Speaker 1: like people's productivity. So we're finding out that they're using
Speaker 1: a lot of the people that work in these warehouse
Speaker 1: have like these radio frequency scanners that report or record
Speaker 1: their t o T or their time off task. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, even thirty minutes of not making Jeff
Speaker 1: Bezos is space mortgage payments can get you fucking terminated
Speaker 1: at an Amazon warehouse. So just like so you're saying,
Speaker 1: they have like a thing on them that like a
Speaker 1: tracting device on them because it helps them also figure
Speaker 1: like because if you're processing stuff, you might be scanning it.
Speaker 1: And please correct me if I'm wrong for people who
Speaker 1: actually work in an Amazon warehouse, but my idea is
Speaker 1: that that they interact with this piece of hardware that
Speaker 1: is able to sort of monitor all this stuff. Like
Speaker 1: it's a very like a smart device that's doing all
Speaker 1: kinds of ship and because of that, it's kicking up
Speaker 1: this information of when they're not quote unquote working. So
Speaker 1: the way this works is this is from this Vice
Speaker 1: article quote. Workers can receive a written warning for accumulating
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of time off task in a day one
Speaker 1: time in a rolling one year period. They can be
Speaker 1: fired if they accumulate a hundred twenty minutes of off
Speaker 1: time task or time off task in a single day,
Speaker 1: or if they have accumulated thirty minutes of time off
Speaker 1: task on three separate days in a one year period.
Speaker 1: And so three separate times that you take a thirty
Speaker 1: minute break in an entire year is grounds for fire.
Speaker 1: And it's not a thirty minute break, it's a cumulative
Speaker 1: thirty minutes in a day. You could take like sick
Speaker 1: five minute breaks and that's thirty You could text your
Speaker 1: sick parents two fifteen times for two minutes. Mm hm.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm really interested in I'm really interested
Speaker 1: in the people that don't work, the people that work
Speaker 1: at Amazon but not in the warehouse, the people that
Speaker 1: work in the offices in front of the computers that
Speaker 1: work at Amazon. How many times are they scrolling Facebook
Speaker 1: or reading, you know, articles about Johnny dep never heard
Speaker 1: and how many how many class works? How much T
Speaker 1: O T are they doing? I have heard that that
Speaker 1: that level is also a fucking waking nightmare. And you
Speaker 1: you get dinged if you don't respond to an email
Speaker 1: from a higher up within like five minutes at any
Speaker 1: time of the death. So, like when you look at
Speaker 1: sort of like these, the way they document the time
Speaker 1: off task, it looks like some fucking c I Black
Speaker 1: Site interrogation record or something. It's like date gap time
Speaker 1: from eighteen to eighteen thirty seven, A A went to
Speaker 1: floor one and was sent to floor to U like
Speaker 1: raw time off task fifteen minutes twenty thirty A was
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Then they adjusted it minus ten because
Speaker 1: they said, okay, okay, that's that's fair. You're in the
Speaker 1: bathroom or not. We're not total monsters here. Then they
Speaker 1: said twenty three oh four to A A does not
Speaker 1: remember to A being like the shorthand for this employee
Speaker 1: like does not remember. So the way this works is
Speaker 1: when they're monitoring all this time, they begin to then
Speaker 1: you know, look at who the person sort through the
Speaker 1: data to find the person who they have to find
Speaker 1: the term for this is a top offender. That's the quote.
Speaker 1: That's like the language they use an Amazon because it
Speaker 1: is a penal colony and they are basically supported like
Speaker 1: a manager supposed to give the top offender a talking
Speaker 1: to And I'll just read the process from this vice
Speaker 1: article about how this whole thing goes quote. After identifying
Speaker 1: the top of ender for every shift, the manager is
Speaker 1: then required to have a conversation with a worker to
Speaker 1: let them explain quote if there are any true barriers
Speaker 1: that would warrant the deduction of time from the total
Speaker 1: time off task tracked by the scanner. The manager makes
Speaker 1: any adjustments to the total time off task and provides
Speaker 1: feedback and disciplinary writeups when appropriate. This is where it
Speaker 1: gets fucking even weirder. If the top offender during a
Speaker 1: shift shift is found to have justified time off task,
Speaker 1: the managers then required to coach the worker with the
Speaker 1: second highest amount of time off task. A tool allows
Speaker 1: managers to sort through the top offenders on any shift.
Speaker 1: The documents also indicate that Amazon uses surveillance footage to
Speaker 1: corroborate employees claims about their whereabouts, and describes an instance
Speaker 1: in which a worker's alibi was later disproven using food
Speaker 1: video footage. So it's everything, it's surveillance capitalism. You got
Speaker 1: it all in one go. In You're in One Place,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the times off task summaries
Speaker 1: from eleven thirteen to eleven twenty three, the employee was
Speaker 1: talking to another employee with no barriers identified. And that
Speaker 1: is that is ten minutes off off task and there's
Speaker 1: no excuse for that, Like those are that is being
Speaker 1: a human being like that, that is what that is
Speaker 1: there You you are not allowed to talk to your
Speaker 1: fellow employee an event, to them about how fucking you
Speaker 1: are currently existing in a black mirror episode. That that
Speaker 1: is the reality that you were both in. You you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to do that, And like how do they
Speaker 1: expect people to they don't have mental health problems, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying they, like that's what's so clear about these documents,
Speaker 1: Like you we talked about all the time. These are
Speaker 1: these people are on a spreadsheet. They're not fucking people.
Speaker 1: They're like this drone was pooping for too long and
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta yell at them because it's not
Speaker 1: functioning correctly for our Like you know, massive hyper profit aims.
Speaker 1: The way they defended is like or internally, it's like
Speaker 1: to make us the most customer centric company on earth.
Speaker 1: The employee went to floor one and was sent to
Speaker 1: floor too, so that presumably by by a higher up,
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes time off task not not adjusted. So that's
Speaker 1: just like, well you should have been quicker. Essentially, well
Speaker 1: you should have known you were on the wrong floor,
Speaker 1: but I was sent by someone else to go. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll have to look into that. Anyway goes into the
Speaker 1: time off task. But it's it's it's this is not
Speaker 1: how human beings work. And and I think, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how someone who is not human works, someone who does
Speaker 1: not have the rights to exist as a living human.
Speaker 1: And you were of like a cog that is just
Speaker 1: made of blood and guts. Yeah, and it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of like we want to hire robot, but if we
Speaker 1: hire all robots, we'll get a lot of pushback. So
Speaker 1: let's just treat our human workforce as robots as close
Speaker 1: as we can. Like you said, it's like they're a
Speaker 1: cog in the machine. They're treating them like a like
Speaker 1: a like a drone. And if the robots were good enough,
Speaker 1: they would have hired them already. The robots aren't there yet.
Speaker 1: That's that's the reason that they have people. Well, they'll
Speaker 1: fire everybody the second that they can replace them with robots.
Speaker 1: Have you all seen I'm all of us are in
Speaker 1: l A. Have you all seen the like those little
Speaker 1: like delivery things that drive with a flag up there,
Speaker 1: like they're like little ice boxes. I've seen them. I've
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to follow one one day, if I'm
Speaker 1: not busy, I'll follow one. I just want to see
Speaker 1: what happened. We know what's in there, Like I do
Speaker 1: feel like I think I almost duty humanity kick those over, right?
Speaker 1: I wonder, like and if it's food, Like, what would
Speaker 1: happen if I like did kick it over and like
Speaker 1: eat of food? It's sure they have it like on
Speaker 1: a lock where it like only releases the product like
Speaker 1: wants it's at the at the What if I like bugs?
Speaker 1: What if I bugs bunny like pulled out a sledgehammer
Speaker 1: from my pocket. Just walk you just tiptoe behind one
Speaker 1: of those with the sledgehammer. The big mallet's going, yeah,
Speaker 1: giant balot, big wooden mallet that expands out of your
Speaker 1: pocket when the robot turns around, I like pull over
Speaker 1: a bush, right, yeah, and your eyeballs are just coming
Speaker 1: through the thing blinking. But then the robots, everybody, everybody
Speaker 1: at home, just trust us. We are hilarious. In the
Speaker 1: zoom video, they've seen it. Two of us haven't fantasized
Speaker 1: about doing a knocking off a robo food delivery robot?
Speaker 1: All right? Is that gang? Let us know if I'm curious, like,
Speaker 1: have you seen one of those? Have you kicked it over?
Speaker 1: Where are you currently incarcerated for doing that? Because the like,
Speaker 1: that's what I've seen more videos of people helping them
Speaker 1: to be honest, like on stupid like robot gives off
Speaker 1: the impression of a child, like it it's like watching
Speaker 1: the show with the children who are going on because
Speaker 1: it looks helpless, it's moving very enough, doesn't have eyes,
Speaker 1: just looks like a hopeless piece of ship, and you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to help this little guy along,
Speaker 1: but like that thing represents just purely like grinding the
Speaker 1: humanity out of like late stage capitalism, which is where
Speaker 1: they want to head. As this spreadsheet just never occurred
Speaker 1: to me to kick one of those things over, And
Speaker 1: I've in fact before been like, it's weird that people
Speaker 1: like like Boston Dynamics had that cross country robot that
Speaker 1: was like going across the country and it just kept
Speaker 1: getting the ship kicked out of it. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's funny and also like kind of perplexing that humans
Speaker 1: are just like robots kick it as. But now that
Speaker 1: I've seen how much they want to treat us like
Speaker 1: robots from this Amazon spreadsheet, I'm like, oh, the people
Speaker 1: who were kicking that Boston Dynamics cross country robots as,
Speaker 1: we're just like a step ahead of me. The pop
Speaker 1: pop culture has showed us in every movie since I
Speaker 1: was a child with robots that like they take over
Speaker 1: and and annihilate us. That is, I mean every movie
Speaker 1: that happens except Wally, but I guess and Wally, they're
Speaker 1: they're in another they're advanced, they're they're even they're they're
Speaker 1: more advanced than us. So it's always there, which and
Speaker 1: humans have destroyed themselves exactly, which, yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: more like the Will the thing is pretty accurate in
Speaker 1: the sense that we're going to destroy ourselves, just we're
Speaker 1: going to create robots that are extra good at helping
Speaker 1: us do that and do it and be comfortable whole
Speaker 1: we do it. But also the idea that like robot,
Speaker 1: the robots aren't that. I guess there's that Boston Dynamics
Speaker 1: dog robot. The is scary, but like for the most part,
Speaker 1: like the way their first appearing in our lives, they
Speaker 1: look kind of helpless and dumb, and well, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I think it's like a boiling the frog boiling thing
Speaker 1: where it's like the robots look dumb now and then
Speaker 1: like we slowly get used to it and we're like, ah,
Speaker 1: this one can't even like one arm shoot like a
Speaker 1: like an M sixty machine gun. It's not stable enough.
Speaker 1: And they're like wait what, oh my god, no, wait
Speaker 1: did Jack to answer your question, here's a report from
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee. Two students arrested for victimizing food
Speaker 1: delivery robot. Yeah. Back in March, two students nineteen and
Speaker 1: twenty quote both attempted to shove the antent of the
Speaker 1: robot inside the top compartment after receiving their food order.
Speaker 1: Oh so they got their order and then got it
Speaker 1: grow with it. Then Callahan picked up the robot and
Speaker 1: slammed it into the ground. To replace one of these robots.
Speaker 1: It will cost around But this is the question, like,
Speaker 1: do you know when you're ordering food from an establishment,
Speaker 1: if it's going to show up be a robot or human.
Speaker 1: I mean, you might order food from wherever and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's like it's here. I had
Speaker 1: to be able to handle it. You're back in there.
Speaker 1: You poison me, You poison me? Oh man. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's they'll make it like that. There will be a
Speaker 1: point where it's you know, as as bad as like
Speaker 1: assaulting a human, because that's like corporations. Yeah, corporations have
Speaker 1: more rights than people do. Like it effectively, you know,
Speaker 1: not necessarily by law, but like effectively, that's the only
Speaker 1: thing that gets protected in this country. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing that doesn't have money to spend on lawyers to
Speaker 1: actually like back that shut up in court. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a cop. Could go into your house and shoot
Speaker 1: you dead while you're asleep and do maybe lose a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks pay if you fucking funked up a
Speaker 1: cop car man, they will puts you underneath the jail
Speaker 1: and but the go fund me that the people will
Speaker 1: make for you to recover that will probably end being
Speaker 1: a million dollars for hours, right exactly, when they're like,
Speaker 1: we need to protect our enforcers of private property and
Speaker 1: white supremacy. Damn the you know, it's it's always something new.
Speaker 1: It's so it's all headed in the same direction, but
Speaker 1: to annihilition. Yeah, I did not think that the way
Speaker 1: Amazon treats its workers would lead me down the path
Speaker 1: of we got to take down our robot overlords. But
Speaker 1: it's how quick till those robots right, Like we're people
Speaker 1: who are hungry see that as something that has food
Speaker 1: inside and try to open it so they can survive
Speaker 1: what I was saying, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then they're gonna outfit these ships with like electrocuting fucking
Speaker 1: prose or some ship like anti theft thing because people
Speaker 1: are starting It's that's what I mean, Like the technology
Speaker 1: is going to be more into being like and don't worry,
Speaker 1: destitute people have no way of getting your howling raise
Speaker 1: hot chicken sandwich. That's exactly. I was just thinking that.
Speaker 1: I was like, if it, if it, if it, you know,
Speaker 1: goes by an encampment or something like that, it's just
Speaker 1: like a bucket of chicken. Then there it's like you're
Speaker 1: you're asking people together it well, we also, yeah, we
Speaker 1: just live in a world where like survival crimes are
Speaker 1: only going to increase as inequality increases. Then again like
Speaker 1: the like, and then we're gonna spend more fucking time
Speaker 1: making the robots hungry people proof than solving the problem
Speaker 1: of hungry people. Yeah, and funding the police because you
Speaker 1: know they'll because the crime wave of the crime wave
Speaker 1: of like people robbing robot delivery bo and then yeah,
Speaker 1: that just ramp it up, and then Merrick Garland will
Speaker 1: announce that anti anti robot hate crime bill. Right in
Speaker 1: preparation for the Olympics, we need to put five thousand
Speaker 1: more cops than to make sure the robots don't get
Speaker 1: attacked in preparation for the Olympics. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: A bummer, Like how much the people who were the
Speaker 1: most paranoid and like the eighties and nineties have just
Speaker 1: turned out to be exactly right, like exactly like exactly right,
Speaker 1: Like the Running Man is about the Running Man, the RoboCop,
Speaker 1: like all those uh the like of Radiohead, like when
Speaker 1: they were like putting out an American flag with Nazi
Speaker 1: symbols instead of stars, and like ship like that that
Speaker 1: like at the time, you know, I was like just
Speaker 1: being based it in popular culture. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I was living on talant, but they were all exactly
Speaker 1: fucking right. I like this, Okay, hold, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we gotta go maybe cool it a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're listening to like Evil Empire by Raids for the
Speaker 1: first time, You're like, oh, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Zack really have to go there? Yeah? Man, yeah he does.
Speaker 1: He does. He absolutely because it's there and we're there.
Speaker 1: We don't have to go there. We're here. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a truly a pleasure having you as always. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you? All that good stuff
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter? I am at beza dabu. That's
Speaker 1: b e h z a d d a b u
Speaker 1: N Is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. I'm going to do
Speaker 1: this from my friend Jaquis Neil, who has been on
Speaker 1: the pod. Jaquis Neil was permanently banned from Twitter for
Speaker 1: saying something like I hope you trip or something like that,
Speaker 1: I hope you stub your toe to somebody who read
Speaker 1: tweeted some really hateful ship. So he's been permanently banned.
Speaker 1: And you know, for those of you at home thinking
Speaker 1: and what's the big deal on Twitter? You know, Jackies
Speaker 1: is a comedian, he's a he's a producer. He does
Speaker 1: a lot of work on podcasts. Twitter is kind of
Speaker 1: a vehicle for a lot of voice for good and
Speaker 1: a voice for good, you know, and and and jack Keys.
Speaker 1: Twitter can be a huge part of your career. And
Speaker 1: to be permanently banned off that it's really hard. It's
Speaker 1: been impossible for him to get ahold of somebody. So
Speaker 1: I'm using this this platform here of like is there
Speaker 1: a tweeter constant I'm following is like it it's jack Keies.
Speaker 1: So let's if anyone out there has a way to
Speaker 1: help get him back on Twitter, that'll be great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been asking through people I know who
Speaker 1: like used to work in Instagram and like other things.
Speaker 1: It's fucking it's so absurd, Like the how many times
Speaker 1: he's been like suspended, even for twenty four hours over
Speaker 1: the most like tame ship that uh, you know, that
Speaker 1: just kind of underlines the bizarre standards that exist. And
Speaker 1: I feel like you know, maybe people are like mass
Speaker 1: reporting anyway, all that to say, if you work at Twitter,
Speaker 1: somebody who does, yeah, just let us know. Well we'll
Speaker 1: hit him up, but just let us know, let us
Speaker 1: get in there. And it is because it was a
Speaker 1: blue check mark that he was, you know, saying he
Speaker 1: hooked mildly uncomfortable things happened to them. Oh he said
Speaker 1: that to a blue check Yeah. Maddie Glaciers fucking like
Speaker 1: the dude who's like everybody's favorite, like supposedly progressive but
Speaker 1: actual centrist. Yeah, bullshit, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1: He like co founded box I think, or like one
Speaker 1: of those shitty like what if The New York Times
Speaker 1: had a shorter name and was mainly a website. Anyways,
Speaker 1: funk that guy, and please help get Jackies his Twitter
Speaker 1: account back? Miles, Where can people find you? What's a
Speaker 1: tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: If you like basketball, mad boostis is the basketball show
Speaker 1: and we're getting into the NBA Finals, Invite me onto that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll have you on soon enough. That's my jam.
Speaker 1: Oh we know, I mean I feel like half the
Speaker 1: time before we ever record we're always about basketball. Uh
Speaker 1: and also check out and then this week we had
Speaker 1: Carl tart On. Uh. So for those of you who
Speaker 1: do you've heard of Carl, check out Carl tart On
Speaker 1: mad Boost. He's also check out for a twenty day
Speaker 1: fiance A tweet that I like, man, there's been some
Speaker 1: good ones here we go making Gaily at Megan Gaily
Speaker 1: tweeted unscientific poll the anti vax people from my high
Speaker 1: school support Johnny Depp Oh no, that tracks Tomato Frog
Speaker 1: at Violin b o One tweeted do you think my
Speaker 1: therapist is ever like? Man? I hope it's a gossip
Speaker 1: day to day and not a trauma day that kill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a part of me is like because part of me
Speaker 1: really did it has thought about that where sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: just talking shit to my therapist, uh and other times
Speaker 1: I'm trying to store through some stuff. But yeah, let
Speaker 1: us know a therapist if you if you ever think
Speaker 1: about that, you can find me on Twitter at Jack
Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Brian Bahi Uh,
Speaker 1: former guest one of the Greats tweeted, Pride month taught
Speaker 1: me it was okay? To be a corporation, and and
Speaker 1: then keeper At Danny Veggito tweeted, Yeah, top gun is propaganda.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a propaganda at Jennifer Connolly. Propaganda propaganda more
Speaker 1: like top a Ganda. That was our killer title this week.
Speaker 1: It's still my favorite title we've ever done. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you you. You know I've said it
Speaker 1: enough times like I don't need to say it again,
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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy, Miles song we think people might enjoy. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a track that was I just
Speaker 1: I just started listening to some tracks by this Indian
Speaker 1: artist who came I started kind of like started a
Speaker 1: new career in the US Asha Putley in the seventies.
Speaker 1: And this track is called let Me in Your Life
Speaker 1: and it's guy of like those like disco Mini Ripperton vibes.
Speaker 1: So if you like that kind of you know, very
Speaker 1: wonderful voice and disco e production. You're gonna like this
Speaker 1: and a lot of the other work from Asha Putlie
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