Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty, episode
Speaker 1: five of Daily Guys Stay production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It's Friday, June tenth, National Movie Night,
Speaker 1: a National night Herbs and Spices Day, which I think
Speaker 1: is pretty important. Shout out to herbs and spices, the
Speaker 1: best you know out there doing the Yemen's work in
Speaker 1: the kitchen. Just to them. You've got a spice that
Speaker 1: you like. Salt. I'm a big fan of salt. Okay,
Speaker 1: outside of salt and pepper, is there anything you like?
Speaker 1: Hold's that's something I like that flavor? And I guess
Speaker 1: I guess I'll like rosemary quite a bit. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: real basic ship. How about your classical roasting herbs? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I love Rosemary stage like, I really do
Speaker 1: like those proper roasting herbs because the more I roast,
Speaker 1: I really you've got to have those all the time.
Speaker 1: Shout out stage stage the Gemini, the rapper, Shout out
Speaker 1: to Sage and Rosemary. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,
Speaker 1: a KM. I bought two tickets to more Bious, but
Speaker 1: there's no one here. What the hell is this? I
Speaker 1: bought two tickets to more Bous. Wait were the means?
Speaker 1: Just taking the piss that is courtesy a Christian Gucci Man,
Speaker 1: just keeping the pressure up on Morbous and that the
Speaker 1: more Bous story that they re released it and apparently
Speaker 1: nobody except for me of course, and in the universe,
Speaker 1: the fictional universe of this song, nobody but me went
Speaker 1: and I was surprised. I have a hard time. I
Speaker 1: think this is also a commentary on the fact that
Speaker 1: I have a hard time telling the difference between a
Speaker 1: meme that is a joke and reality, because on yesterday's episode,
Speaker 1: I thought a Christie Amagucci Man meme was real. I
Speaker 1: thought that I thought Netflix actually said we're no longer
Speaker 1: doing vanity projects, like like you'd be Halloween. Got Him,
Speaker 1: Got Me? Got Him? I did catch myself in the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were like, you think it's a meme? Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. I wanna be where the people are.
Speaker 1: I want to see them running for their lives trying
Speaker 1: to get away from me on those what do you
Speaker 1: call them? Feed being half frog DNA, you don't get
Speaker 1: too far. Streets are required for biting and eating. I
Speaker 1: just want to bite someone in how do you say,
Speaker 1: fucking in half where they walk up, where they run up,
Speaker 1: where they aren't safe from a believing wander free like
Speaker 1: a rex t in a Gurassic World. Okay, y'all, I'm
Speaker 1: about to go see that ship tonight. Because the bad
Speaker 1: reviews were so intense. I'm like, her majesty, put on
Speaker 1: your one day's best because we're about to go see
Speaker 1: Jurassic Oblivion or whatever. Oh yeah, I'm gonna see that
Speaker 1: ship and that that was from a an undersea dinosaur,
Speaker 1: which it seems like there's some of those happening, because
Speaker 1: the whole thing is about them being out of the park,
Speaker 1: out the park, you know what I mean, and being
Speaker 1: out there with the people, you know, being to bite
Speaker 1: them in fucking half or whatever. I'm sure we can see,
Speaker 1: so I will report back with my Jurassic World dominion
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called. That's exactly what it's called, dominion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to add casual like I'm like, like, as
Speaker 1: soon as I read the reviews, like I'm back in
Speaker 1: the park. That's so weird. I'll watch every Jurassic Park film.
Speaker 1: I'll watch every Terminator film the theater. Mhmm, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that is weird, but like that that kind of tracks
Speaker 1: for the like the biggest movies when you were very
Speaker 1: young in theaters. Park two and Jurassic Park were like
Speaker 1: those were religious experience. I got it in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I told you I have a pick with Edie Eddie
Speaker 1: Furlong from that era. I gotta dig that up because
Speaker 1: it was like it was like a show and tell
Speaker 1: thing I brought. No one gave a fund because their
Speaker 1: parents didn't allow them to see T two. They're like that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Eddie Furlong, y'all, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Who's that? Anyways, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat by an Upworthy staff writer who co
Speaker 1: hosts the podcast Upworthy Weekly with t d Z favorite
Speaker 1: Alison Rosen. It's Todd Perrey. Thank you, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: pleasure to be here. You got the you know, the
Speaker 1: less attractive of the Upworthy Weekly co host. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do my best here. Maybe more musical though. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got a song for you, got an a k
Speaker 1: A you can just belt out for his recal. I
Speaker 1: saw you had guitars back there, Todd. Oh let's see here. Um,
Speaker 1: what if Todd was one of us? I'll let you
Speaker 1: take it. That's great. I can take the pressure off.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to just be like, Hey, impromptu show
Speaker 1: and you're the star. You didn't realize that you thought
Speaker 1: it was the news show. Isn't every every person on
Speaker 1: a bus a stranger? Like did they have to say,
Speaker 1: like stranger on the bus? Is anybody ever riding the
Speaker 1: bus with friends? When I took the one out like
Speaker 1: from school and I would take the city bus, there
Speaker 1: were like two people who I would recognize who we
Speaker 1: are typically on the same bus, who were much we're
Speaker 1: not in high school, were like going to work or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I never spoke to them, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's that guy. And then the lady with
Speaker 1: the shopping cart. Yeah. The whole time on the ride,
Speaker 1: you're making up this entire story of their life life
Speaker 1: and why they're on the bus, and you know, and
Speaker 1: what went what went on so that they don't have
Speaker 1: car insurance or whatever is happening that is going on.
Speaker 1: The godly thing is to take the bus. I think
Speaker 1: just in terms of keeping the earth. That's right. Are
Speaker 1: you coming to us from Long Beach, California, oy LBC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you from Oh no, I'm originally Actually you guys
Speaker 1: were talking about Christi Amagucci earlier. Yeah, we're from the
Speaker 1: same hometown of Torrance, California. So also like the skating god,
Speaker 1: who was the skating god from there? Because my my
Speaker 1: neighbor was the guy from Jackass Women growing up and
Speaker 1: he was like a Torrance kid, which is always kind
Speaker 1: of funny growing up with with later, you know, we
Speaker 1: would we would read like the Anarchist Cookbook and everything
Speaker 1: and do wacky stuff that led to I mean not
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I had a part in it, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that kind of wacky stuff later
Speaker 1: be aim what the guy made a fortune on. So
Speaker 1: so you were there for Jason Weeman Akunya's formative years
Speaker 1: from what I understand. Okay, when we were reading the
Speaker 1: Anarchist Cookbook, that's cool that you like put the work
Speaker 1: in to be a juvenile to link with like my
Speaker 1: friends and I, we just unrolled a roll of toilet
Speaker 1: paper like in a big sort of concrete setting, kind
Speaker 1: of like the l a river, but much smaller, you know,
Speaker 1: like a concrete drainage ditch, and then lit it on fire.
Speaker 1: And I expected the flame to like race forward on
Speaker 1: the toilet paper into like a ball of flames, and
Speaker 1: that's not how that works, turns out. Yeah, very I
Speaker 1: was into the Anarchist Cookbook, and I remember the whole time,
Speaker 1: like we gotta get Saltpeter, like it was like the
Speaker 1: whole thing, the thing that came away with, Like if
Speaker 1: we find that, then we can make our own fireworks
Speaker 1: and rockets another one of my favorite spices. Fault. All right, Todd,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we can tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the President's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel actually like kind of
Speaker 1: a hard hitting interview for for him. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about what Fox News sounds like right now, and that
Speaker 1: viral AI art program Dolly yeah, Dolly Mini. Before we
Speaker 1: get to any of that bullshit, Todd, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search
Speaker 1: history where to get stoke coffee shots? Where coffee shots?
Speaker 1: He said, have you seen these? Like Okay, they used
Speaker 1: to have him for free at seven eleven, And it's
Speaker 1: like an espresso shot, like it's with the creamers and
Speaker 1: it has caffeine in it, so there's actually like you know,
Speaker 1: it's an it gives you, like your your coffee, like
Speaker 1: an extra boost. So like, you know, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: podcast and you want to get like a good buzz going,
Speaker 1: or if you're write for Upworthy and you have to
Speaker 1: write like six words a day, like you gotta be
Speaker 1: kind of gaped. So but now because of the supply chain,
Speaker 1: you can't find them anywhere. And the problem is that
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like addicted to them. Oh so I've
Speaker 1: just been like searching everywhere to try to find these,
Speaker 1: and it's been very difficult, Like people are selling them
Speaker 1: like with like hugely inflated prices on Amazon. So basically,
Speaker 1: anybody out there who's listening, and if you have some
Speaker 1: stoked coffee shots, if you could just you know, hit
Speaker 1: me up on Twitter at Todd a Perry Todd with
Speaker 1: one D and then we can make some kind of deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, how how high over invoice you want to go? Man,
Speaker 1: maybe about three times over? But wait, so what is that?
Speaker 1: Give me an example of like what if you were
Speaker 1: to buy it and there were no supply chain issues,
Speaker 1: what the amounts you would buy, what that cost is,
Speaker 1: and what you're looking at Now you you pay like
Speaker 1: eighteen bucks for a hundred oh okay, and you'll be like,
Speaker 1: I'll pay fifty four. Yeah, I'll pay fifty four. It
Speaker 1: just depends, like Willia didn't negotiate on all all levels.
Speaker 1: And when you were a peak stoke, were you just
Speaker 1: like taking those of the house where you were putting
Speaker 1: in putting them in your black coffee with like some creamer.
Speaker 1: What are we looking at here? Yeah? No, you just
Speaker 1: do a little dip into your you know, into a
Speaker 1: black coffee. Yeah, okay, turbo boosters. Damn. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know about this. I pride myself as a caffeine junkie.
Speaker 1: I was. I was not even aware that this was
Speaker 1: a thing that was available to me. You know, I'd say,
Speaker 1: don't go down the dark path because now, like I
Speaker 1: am constantly having this like massive caffeine withdrawal because I
Speaker 1: pushed myself too far. And then you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like if they killed the dopeman, it's like where
Speaker 1: am I gonna get it now? And now you're now
Speaker 1: you're at the will of these these price gougers on Amazon.
Speaker 1: M M. What is something you think is overrated? H
Speaker 1: the TV show Friends? M hm h I tell you
Speaker 1: I'm making any with that take, making any on this
Speaker 1: show with that take, buddy, No, I'm just joking. H No.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like I used to have a
Speaker 1: roommate back in the day that would watch it pretty
Speaker 1: much like you know, you could find it on at
Speaker 1: any hour of the day, so it's like always kind
Speaker 1: of going on in the background. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't get it, Like it's just not funny. Hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, I mean I might be getting my like
Speaker 1: my white card revoked, you know. But I gotta say, like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in trouble man, Like we heard what
Speaker 1: you said about Friends, Todd. I was always a bit
Speaker 1: of an edge lord, so I was more of a
Speaker 1: Seinfeld guy. Oh boy, the dark side dark as dark
Speaker 1: bad boy, wore a leather jacket, pretended to smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 1: But what you like bite them and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, so so hardcore. I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: go hard with the I didn't like Seinfeld edge Lord
Speaker 1: take no, no, no no, I'm just joking. I'm not an
Speaker 1: edge lord, but not an edge lord. Yeah, I'm from
Speaker 1: Wait do you like Do you like sitcoms in general? Though?
Speaker 1: Are you just or friends just because of like how
Speaker 1: big of a place it holds in pop culture? Like
Speaker 1: I don't, fucking no, I don't get I feel the
Speaker 1: same way I didn't in the nineties when it was
Speaker 1: like the biggest show. I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: not not really into it. Yeah, it's like I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's just so big, and watching it, I sit
Speaker 1: there and I go, okay, maybe you know, sometimes there's
Speaker 1: things that like you don't dig it, but you can
Speaker 1: get why other people dig it, you know. And then
Speaker 1: with this show, the only thing it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderson's kind of cute, Courtney Cox is like really cute,
Speaker 1: and then that's about it. Like, I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't find anybody interesting. There's no I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just said, there's everybody on the show is like objectively hot,
Speaker 1: so that I think that probably yeah, like and then yeah,
Speaker 1: the I I feel you though, Like I was, I
Speaker 1: was not into it and I did feel a little
Speaker 1: bit crazy just being around people who would make Friends
Speaker 1: references and not get Simpsons references, you know, Peoper reading
Speaker 1: from different scrolls. You know. How about something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? The Kinks, the rock band. Yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: always like you know, Beatles or Stones, and people talk
Speaker 1: about that era of music, and I would I would
Speaker 1: put my hat in the Rings saying, actually, the Kinks
Speaker 1: are better than the Rolling Stones if you just go
Speaker 1: like hit for hit, I feel like the best twenty
Speaker 1: Kinks songs versus the best twenty Stone songs. I think
Speaker 1: the Kinks probably are are a better band. I think
Speaker 1: if people go deep into the King's catalog like beyond,
Speaker 1: like the early like you Really Got Me, the Rere
Speaker 1: the kind of rock stuff. Ray Davies was like an
Speaker 1: incredible songwriter, And I don't know why more of the
Speaker 1: Kinks stuff isn't the kind of thing that you just
Speaker 1: hear like burnt out on you know, classic rock radio.
Speaker 1: What are like, what are songs that you feel don't
Speaker 1: get enough attention or and like or is there? I mean,
Speaker 1: I I like again, I know the Kings like very
Speaker 1: superficially like they're like the things I would hear on
Speaker 1: like kale O s or something growing up? But what
Speaker 1: what is it that you're saying people need to consider
Speaker 1: about the Kinks aside from like if you listen to it,
Speaker 1: it's really good. Are there like other dimensions that you're like,
Speaker 1: there's this whole other part of the Kinks that people
Speaker 1: don't appreciate or am I what am I missing? What
Speaker 1: are we missing? I think Ray Davies was the main
Speaker 1: songwriter in the group, was like the first I'd say,
Speaker 1: like neurotic songwriter, like the first like neurotic rock star
Speaker 1: that wrote songs about you know, his anxiety and not
Speaker 1: feeling like he fit into the world and uh feeling
Speaker 1: like I don't know, the the establishment and like the
Speaker 1: state was that against him. I think you know, later
Speaker 1: people you know, like Tom York from Radiohead or whatever
Speaker 1: wrote about these types of things, But Ray Davies was
Speaker 1: the first guy to not not trying to play up
Speaker 1: like you know he was some grand you know person
Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying, like it was a
Speaker 1: very fragile kind of songwriter, which was rare for that
Speaker 1: kind of rock era. Right, Okay, so like a good
Speaker 1: it's like getting the emo kids like Hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: you should listen to some of Ray Davies stuff. You
Speaker 1: know exactly, I'm gonna start passing out Kink's records over
Speaker 1: by the uh the high school, like the street. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't that wouldn't be suspicious or like put you
Speaker 1: on any lists people would? I think? Guys handing out
Speaker 1: squares that say Kinks on it, right, like these are squares,
Speaker 1: these are LPs. What talking to me about his Kink?
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We will be right back, and we're back. And Joe
Speaker 1: Biden was on Jimmy Kimmel two nights ago. And I
Speaker 1: do think this is one of the benefits of having
Speaker 1: a president who is so off the cuff by necessity,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't. I don't think whatever best
Speaker 1: laid plans, he's going into any appearance, any speech, any
Speaker 1: given sentence with it's gonna it's an adventure for him
Speaker 1: for the people who work with him. So at one
Speaker 1: point Jimmy Kimmel, you know, Jimmy Kimmel was asking fairly
Speaker 1: like hard hitting questions about the rip in the beginning
Speaker 1: when he's like, you're talking about Mitch McConnell, and he's like,
Speaker 1: the thing about him is like when he says something
Speaker 1: he means and he's like, yeah, like when he said,
Speaker 1: you can't confirm a Supreme Court justice with a year
Speaker 1: and a half left, and then you go ahead and
Speaker 1: do the other thing. And Joe Biden's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know about that, man, I don't know. You don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I don't know about all that. Jack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it was. It was. It was interesting work
Speaker 1: to watch him. You know, Jimmy kim will be kind
Speaker 1: of irritated with him too. Yeah. But so at one point,
Speaker 1: like kind of in response to all of that, and
Speaker 1: like Biden being sort of a hey glass half fool though,
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta understand we're doing the good work. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Kimmel was like, so, what makes you like so optimistic
Speaker 1: about America? I think a lot of people are worried. Uh,
Speaker 1: And he gave this answer that I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: play for and honestly should, but optimistic in my life.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you why, why are you so optimistic?
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. No, it's done. And look at
Speaker 1: the kids, look at the young thinking, best educated, least prejudice,
Speaker 1: most giving generation in American history. Turn on the television's
Speaker 1: turn on? How I saw that? There's something to that.
Speaker 1: I'm serious. You turn on the TV and look at
Speaker 1: the ads. When's the last time you saw biracial couples
Speaker 1: on TV? When's the last time you saw the way
Speaker 1: I mean people are selling products. They do adds to
Speaker 1: sell products, and they sell products when people, they appeal
Speaker 1: to people. This generation is gonna change everything. We just
Speaker 1: what turn on the TV. Man, was the last time
Speaker 1: you saw a black man and a white woman canoodling
Speaker 1: over doing laundry at their house? Like what I mean,
Speaker 1: in my most like cynical, hopeless moments, I might have
Speaker 1: thought that, like that's actually what was being like what
Speaker 1: their thought was, like, Well, we're winning the culture wars
Speaker 1: in terms of what the demographics that are appearing in
Speaker 1: TV as. Look who the company's got to sell to?
Speaker 1: That does seem to be the primary place where you
Speaker 1: see the progressive values is like in TV as like
Speaker 1: and it's first of all, like it's just it's there's
Speaker 1: a couple of problems. First of all, he so old
Speaker 1: that he thinks interracial couples and like, you know, mixed
Speaker 1: race families are a new taboo, Like that's like a breakthrough,
Speaker 1: Like that's like, yeah, he thinks like when was the
Speaker 1: last time I don't know? Man like always like that's
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be seen as a new thing. I know,
Speaker 1: like when you take the entirety of like the memories
Speaker 1: in his brain and like average them out, they like
Speaker 1: land somewhere before this was commonplace. But I mean there
Speaker 1: was also did you see the interview with Diane Feinstein
Speaker 1: and in New York Magazine that she's like back and
Speaker 1: forth between lucidity and you know, not not quite and
Speaker 1: but she's like holding onto these small victories from years
Speaker 1: ago as proof that things in the currently broken version
Speaker 1: of air Country can be salvaged. So that's one problem.
Speaker 1: And then the other problem that I think is very
Speaker 1: concerning is that the mainstream Democratic Party actually like takes
Speaker 1: these culture war like representation things as actual accomplishments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the met like the barometer for progress shouldn't be what
Speaker 1: a fucking ad agency teems like acceptable for their commercials,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's almost that's essentially what it distilled
Speaker 1: progress down to. Well, the people on Madison Fifth Avenue
Speaker 1: and Madison av they're they're fine with miscegenation. Now what
Speaker 1: Joe the right is currently like systemically just putting out
Speaker 1: a very like, steady, very consistent worldview that is racist, fascist,
Speaker 1: fully fleshed out out in the open, and it's fully
Speaker 1: based on like what people what like scared people and like,
Speaker 1: you know, hurting people who are hurting from like the
Speaker 1: things that our current system is failing to provide them,
Speaker 1: like based on what they would want to believe, and
Speaker 1: they're doing it constantly. It is sophisticated. And the fact
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is like sitting back and watching a
Speaker 1: Cheerios commercial and being like, we're we're gonna be all right,
Speaker 1: the kids are all right. He looks at that, He's like,
Speaker 1: it's very not gonna lie. I think they thought they
Speaker 1: had us in the fourth quarter there. They're concerning man, like,
Speaker 1: very concerning. Yeah. I think that a lot of you
Speaker 1: know the problem with the Democrats and liberals in general
Speaker 1: right now, again you're the the small cultural victory. They
Speaker 1: do a whole lap. But it's it's also like when
Speaker 1: they had the thing with the San Francisco Board of
Speaker 1: Education where I was sitting there like obsessing over the
Speaker 1: names of the schools versus actually just opening up the
Speaker 1: schools because of COVID or doing what they needed to
Speaker 1: do to get kids back in school. Uh, it was
Speaker 1: more they were much more interested in, like the cultural
Speaker 1: victory than the actual functional, you know, the bigger idea,
Speaker 1: which it is obviously helping kids. Also, I wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: if if Jimmy Kimmel was being really hard hitting there,
Speaker 1: I think he should have let Joe Biden know that
Speaker 1: we've actually had a black president and just see how
Speaker 1: like his mind would have been blown by that idea,
Speaker 1: or watch him be surprised by that that that would
Speaker 1: have been. That would have been tough to take, would
Speaker 1: have been tough to watch. Yeah, that I think just
Speaker 1: even with Jimmy Kimmel, you know, he he really was
Speaker 1: just like in the beginning, He's like, why hasn't anything happened?
Speaker 1: You know, like maybe you could do like some of
Speaker 1: those executive orders that Trump was so willing to just
Speaker 1: like launch at will, and like Joe Biden singals like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing is like you gotta do things
Speaker 1: the right way, and if we do them the wrong way,
Speaker 1: then we're just gonna We're just gonna backslide into total
Speaker 1: democratic collapse, and you're like, we're there, dude, Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: we're working there. What are you talking about now, that's
Speaker 1: not the time to be like, well, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: my like suit clean and my my whites it's their
Speaker 1: brightest white and not get in the muck and myer
Speaker 1: while the game is completely changed around you, Like you're
Speaker 1: not even you're not even dressed for what the situation
Speaker 1: is at the moment. And I think that's what kind
Speaker 1: of it's hard to watch at times when we're constantly
Speaker 1: being reminded of what the stakes are is like we're
Speaker 1: waiting for the other shooter drop as it relates to Row,
Speaker 1: and like just hey man, you gotta do things the
Speaker 1: right way. I'm I'm really into this old fucking document
Speaker 1: that it was written centuries ago that serves us absolutely
Speaker 1: no purpose at this point. But he kept like talking
Speaker 1: about it being square, like doing things on the square
Speaker 1: or something like that the whole time. I get it.
Speaker 1: You think I'm a square Jimmy, But you know that.
Speaker 1: I also get asked, Look, the Republicans don't play it square.
Speaker 1: Why do you play it square? Well, guess what if
Speaker 1: we do the same thing they do, our democracy would
Speaker 1: literally be in jeopardy. And that is not a joke, yo, mane.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's anybody in the Democratic Party that
Speaker 1: would play hardball the way Republicans do. I think it
Speaker 1: would probably someone who is so unencumbered by the like
Speaker 1: ebb and flow of like Capitol Hill politics and like
Speaker 1: the what you need to survive to really, because I
Speaker 1: mean the problem is every person has like these congressional
Speaker 1: instincts which are like their third rail topics. You don't
Speaker 1: really speak very forcefully about certain issues or call out,
Speaker 1: you know, certain industries, especially like with Democrats. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like anybody who is probably doesn't identify as like a
Speaker 1: big D Democrat is more willing to, I think, speak
Speaker 1: to what the real problems are. Because again, like we
Speaker 1: talked about on the show, how is somebody who is
Speaker 1: like in the pocket of like you know, the financial
Speaker 1: sector going to forcefully talk about like income inequality or
Speaker 1: taxing the rich people. They're not because the game there
Speaker 1: is you you receive your donations in order to you know,
Speaker 1: gesture towards problems, but never fully identify them in your
Speaker 1: capacity as a politician, because that's not what you're essentially
Speaker 1: there to do. So I think the biggest issue is
Speaker 1: until there's a way to take the influence away from
Speaker 1: the hyper wealthy out of the political process, Like there's
Speaker 1: not not much is going to change, and there can
Speaker 1: only be a bunch of like noisy people. Like you
Speaker 1: have certain Congress members who do speak truth to power,
Speaker 1: but they're in a minority and their their voices aren't
Speaker 1: like brought to the forefront constantly, like you do see
Speaker 1: people who you know, tow the line and sort of
Speaker 1: vouch for the status quo. Yeah, but you know, well
Speaker 1: if you look at a guy like say Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: who's probably the greatest diabolical practitioner of the dark arts
Speaker 1: in Congress and and and in American government, he's obviously
Speaker 1: somebody that is rewarded for playing dirty. You know, Obviously
Speaker 1: he keeps his power and he's basically an errand boy
Speaker 1: to to do the will of you know, the cultural
Speaker 1: forces that want you know, the you know, screwed up
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and and got it to where it
Speaker 1: is right now. So there is a benefit still for
Speaker 1: people who are of that mindset to play dirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the incentive structure is set up so that you know,
Speaker 1: he is rewarded by the extremely wealthy and that's the
Speaker 1: you know, or or corporations or with power, and then
Speaker 1: the democratic side it's just like not the things that
Speaker 1: you would need to and and it's not playing dirty really,
Speaker 1: it's just like there are two parties neither of which
Speaker 1: are like even approaching telling the truth about like how
Speaker 1: things are, how things actually work in the in our
Speaker 1: current political system, but there's no incentive structure for them.
Speaker 1: Like people people started talking about the abuse of police,
Speaker 1: like during the like George Floyd protests, but then the
Speaker 1: entire incentive structure was like kind of took over. And
Speaker 1: now the mainstream media and conservative media are just constantly
Speaker 1: cherry picking scary videos of crime and putting it everywhere
Speaker 1: because like as a backlash to that, it's like any
Speaker 1: moment of confidence or moment of bravery from a you know,
Speaker 1: left leaning or progressive politician immediately gets like swallowed up
Speaker 1: because the entire system is just tilted in this one
Speaker 1: very specific direction. And it's it's almost like you have
Speaker 1: you know, like the Koch Brothers type network of oligarchs
Speaker 1: who love to fund the GOP, who are fully focused
Speaker 1: on like just gutting the federal government, privatizing everything and
Speaker 1: allowing themselves to profit. And they see their their their
Speaker 1: goals are inequality. And the same thing. If you look
Speaker 1: at the financial sector, tech companies, or you know, anyone
Speaker 1: who's donating any party, everyone's aim is to make their
Speaker 1: business or industry grow. There's no one who's actively giving
Speaker 1: money to a politicians Like I'd like to make less money,
Speaker 1: I'd like more regulations or people are safer, and I'd
Speaker 1: love for all of my employees. I'd love for you
Speaker 1: to create laws where I have to actually begin, you know,
Speaker 1: sharing excessive profits with the workers. You know, like it's
Speaker 1: just that's just not what it is. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: paying you to to keep to use your capacity on this,
Speaker 1: you know, a committee or subcommittee to not do any
Speaker 1: analysis on my industry, to not look at what the
Speaker 1: outcomes are that I might advertise to consumers and what
Speaker 1: their lived reality is after interacting with my company. And
Speaker 1: I want you to turn in the other way. And
Speaker 1: in fact, I can also write this legislation that you
Speaker 1: can introduce that has these good things that you can
Speaker 1: tout as helping close loopholes while also making a very
Speaker 1: specific loophole for me, which I'm learning how to do
Speaker 1: my business smarter. If I just exploit this other loophole,
Speaker 1: we can close those other ones off and create the
Speaker 1: illusion of progress together. And that's that whole fucking dance
Speaker 1: that we're stuck in every time, because you know, you,
Speaker 1: you go against you know, the hands that feed they
Speaker 1: fucking primary you. They come out with all kinds of
Speaker 1: you know, they'll they'll find a reason to get you
Speaker 1: out of your seat and put someone in that is
Speaker 1: willing to do the job. And you have to be
Speaker 1: someone who's extremely fortunate to come from like a solidly
Speaker 1: progressive district where you're like, yeah, man, they can do
Speaker 1: like we funk, we funk with whatever they say to
Speaker 1: be able to have like longevity, because you do see
Speaker 1: a lot of people go in one term and go out, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just as quick because they came in talking
Speaker 1: too loud about this that or the other industry. And
Speaker 1: we've had progress of politicians run for offices and like
Speaker 1: do way better than they had any right doing. But
Speaker 1: the way it gets fun like that, that would be
Speaker 1: the thing that I think, at least I'm talking about
Speaker 1: is like playing the game like in a a way
Speaker 1: that is actually up to the task of countering Republicans
Speaker 1: and how they operate. But that gets like played, that
Speaker 1: gets retold and like put in the national memory and
Speaker 1: in the media as like, well that's a failure. That's
Speaker 1: when when they're being like outspent like fifty to one,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, that's a that's a failure. And that's
Speaker 1: why these people could never run for office with those ideas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think it's also a cultural thing where and
Speaker 1: people who are for the most part, who I think
Speaker 1: are more liberal minded, don't like seeing their guy not
Speaker 1: seem virtuous. I think there's something about that. It's like
Speaker 1: the reason and why like talk radio you don't have
Speaker 1: like hardcore left wing talk radio is because people who
Speaker 1: are more liberal don't like, you know, the people shouting
Speaker 1: at each other and the whole bit. I think in
Speaker 1: the same way, I think people who are conservative don't
Speaker 1: mind if their guy, their congressman, goes to Washington and
Speaker 1: acts like an a hole as long as he gets
Speaker 1: his thing done like they I think maybe they don't
Speaker 1: imbue these people with such moral fortitude. That's why when
Speaker 1: when Donald Trump came about, they didn't really mind. You know,
Speaker 1: once he broke that line of decency, you know, public decency,
Speaker 1: everybody was fine with it. And I don't think you
Speaker 1: could have that with a liberal. I don't. I just
Speaker 1: don't think it would work well. I think the hard
Speaker 1: part is like a liberal like there there's no left
Speaker 1: wing radio out there because that's too like it's it's
Speaker 1: antithetical to what a mainstream American culture is regardless, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's there's there's nothing on TV where you see
Speaker 1: anything that's beyond like what's like left of like Rachel Maddow,
Speaker 1: And for all intents and purposes, I wouldn't even say
Speaker 1: that she's like so extremely left that you would say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like left wing. It's more like on our
Speaker 1: current sort of spectrum of like political ideologies that we
Speaker 1: see in the media, sure it's the left, but like
Speaker 1: there's no one really advocating for like collective action against
Speaker 1: like corporations or like workers withholding their labor to try
Speaker 1: and get changed. I think like those kinds of things
Speaker 1: are not really uttered on anything that is like mass
Speaker 1: mass ly mass distributed aside from podcasts. I would say
Speaker 1: it's like the one place where those voices are able
Speaker 1: to actually kind of like be out there and people
Speaker 1: can find it. But I think at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you know, there's just both sides are really
Speaker 1: just there to protect the status quo, and they just
Speaker 1: do it in different versions. The Republican version is like
Speaker 1: totally charged up with racism, and that's one version, or
Speaker 1: the the sort of mainstream democrat versions like things aren't
Speaker 1: that bad, okay, and like they're gonna get better. And
Speaker 1: those are just two versions of telling someone in need
Speaker 1: that they don't like it doesn't matter what their needs are,
Speaker 1: but once like it doesn't matter because you're brown, or
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because Joe Biden is gonna fix it,
Speaker 1: just fucking wait for it. And those are those that's
Speaker 1: essentially this the messages that are coming out of there.
Speaker 1: It's not like there's nothing particularly like revolutionary or like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, that's different because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: because of the nature of our system, there there aren't
Speaker 1: people there that are incentivized to do what is right
Speaker 1: for their constituents. It's it's merely about how to make
Speaker 1: it as easy as possible to stay in Congress, and
Speaker 1: that's through you know, taking them taking whatever money is
Speaker 1: brought to you because that's just less work for you
Speaker 1: to do raising your own funds or you know, trying
Speaker 1: to do it without the help of corporations, and because
Speaker 1: the game is like how much air time can you
Speaker 1: afford in an election? It's like why Rick Caruso did
Speaker 1: so well. He spent forty million dollars in l A
Speaker 1: And most people they're up there, their brains were fried
Speaker 1: because of it, like just being inundated with all this
Speaker 1: pro Caruso stuff to like I think it's okay, right,
Speaker 1: and we we have like this, like I think really bad.
Speaker 1: Most Americans have a really bad habit of sort of
Speaker 1: saying like, well, if this message comes out constantly, must
Speaker 1: be right. It's just like how the Johnny Depp amber
Speaker 1: heard things like you you just flood the zone with
Speaker 1: something and that immediately people will default to that to
Speaker 1: say like, oh, this is the this is this is
Speaker 1: exactly what the story is. I'm not really there's no
Speaker 1: nuance to it. That's just what I'm hearing. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back, and we're
Speaker 1: back and there there's a new kind of AI art
Speaker 1: program that has gone viral. Miles we're messing around with
Speaker 1: it a little bit yesterday off Mike. But basically the
Speaker 1: idea is that you type in a search phrase or
Speaker 1: like a thing you want to see, essentially Thanos taking
Speaker 1: a bathroom mirror selfie is one of the examples that
Speaker 1: has been being passed around, and it will generate that
Speaker 1: image just based based on AI magic and like AI
Speaker 1: photoshop skills. Another one that went viral gender Reveal nine eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's wild that one's pretty Gender Reveal nine eleven
Speaker 1: as rendered by AI, I think just sums up everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's everything and nothing. It's just wild to
Speaker 1: see like those images were merely the computers, just like
Speaker 1: and I will take the nine eleven smoke and make
Speaker 1: some blue and some pink yea, and they really nailed it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a a comforting nihilism looking at it,
Speaker 1: you know, like when when you're you're just on the
Speaker 1: other side of everything being so supremely fucked that you're
Speaker 1: just kind of smiling in the ash, you know, totally yeah,
Speaker 1: just like whoa we tend to reveal nine eleven. It
Speaker 1: is a bit like fans looking off at the sunset
Speaker 1: after he's made half of humanity disappear. It's just like, yes, wait,
Speaker 1: what what if doing? Oh ship? Sorry? Was that a spoiler? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I realized, Oh man, my bad? Is that what the
Speaker 1: snap is? No? No, no, no no, no, The snap is
Speaker 1: just he has like a funky rhythm in his heart
Speaker 1: and he's just trying to get it out. He's an
Speaker 1: amusing the music. He's in a street gang from a music.
Speaker 1: He's part of a doop group singing around a trash
Speaker 1: can fire. Okay, good, all right, I'll take that later.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that can run it. Yeah, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's a good description. Is that it's kind of a
Speaker 1: comforting nihilism, which seems to be kind of what we
Speaker 1: have to work with a lot of the times these days.
Speaker 1: But this is, of course, like the second we started
Speaker 1: messing around with it, I was like, oh, there has
Speaker 1: to be like some something, some weird backstory to this.
Speaker 1: It is a simplified version of a more sophisticated program
Speaker 1: created by open Ai, the company co founded by Elon
Speaker 1: Musk and currently funded by Microsoft. The name is a
Speaker 1: nod to Salvador Dolly and the Pixar movie Wally Okay
Speaker 1: and so pretty on, pretty on the nose. Yeah, an
Speaker 1: AI company has named their product after a movie in
Speaker 1: which humanity's laziness and dependence on automation drives them to
Speaker 1: near extinction. It's a strong, a strong choice. I just
Speaker 1: love that one. That seems to be the thing that
Speaker 1: was just steer into the curve, you know, steer into
Speaker 1: the tailspin. Right, It's d A L. L. Dash E.
Speaker 1: Mini is the name of and you've gotta check this out. Guys,
Speaker 1: go check this ship out. It's wild. So but this
Speaker 1: is like Mini and there's a big there's big Dolly
Speaker 1: coming to Yeah, Like that's a more like supposed to
Speaker 1: be the super refined version. Yeah, the full version of
Speaker 1: Dolly isn't available the public and can create practically photo
Speaker 1: realistic images based on random bullshit, like somebody typed she
Speaker 1: Bow into wearing a beret and black turtleneck and that's
Speaker 1: that is the result. That is exactly what you got
Speaker 1: the thing that So just if you go to the
Speaker 1: current Mini publicly available version, you're going to type something
Speaker 1: in and it's going to tell you that it's too busy,
Speaker 1: too many searches. Yeah, like when I try to get
Speaker 1: Katy Perry licking boot or snoop dog licking boot it
Speaker 1: and that it came up after numerous tries, but it's
Speaker 1: definitely it looks like everyone's face is melting in the
Speaker 1: shape of a boot. So I'm they maybe they still
Speaker 1: got a little bit of ways to go, Dolly, yeah,
Speaker 1: feed like you know, you know you can respond back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that just looks like like a face melting into a boot.
Speaker 1: Can I have Katie Perry's tongue bottom of boot exactly
Speaker 1: on the soul of it? I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And I tried different, like chewing on a timberland like
Speaker 1: maybe because it would be like, oh, that means the
Speaker 1: boot is in the mouth, using these like operative phrases,
Speaker 1: but they weren't the best. The one I kind of uh,
Speaker 1: they couldn't even was the other one for Kendall Roy
Speaker 1: going super saying and that that that didn't quite work
Speaker 1: out either, So that just seemed to have melted the
Speaker 1: computer with the value. It was just like smears of color.
Speaker 1: They're like, you don't know, what what can you get?
Speaker 1: Can you get balloons into this stuff, like like Katie
Speaker 1: Perry boot balloon. Yeah almost popped the like not quite
Speaker 1: but like it looks like it's bad right up there.
Speaker 1: It's just like bursting, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: all of those words. You know what I'm saying. Man Ah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fucking sick, so hot, so hot.
Speaker 1: The problem is that, like erotica is such a specific thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like the difference between something being sexy and
Speaker 1: not sexy. It's like, really it's a game of centimeters,
Speaker 1: the game millimeters exactly. You know that that hey, I
Speaker 1: can get to that point, then we've really gone over
Speaker 1: the rainbow. Well here's the thing right. It's like it's
Speaker 1: because right now it's just drawing from available images right
Speaker 1: to give us that and like like anything, we're just
Speaker 1: sort of at the will of what's out there on
Speaker 1: the Internet and what this thing can scraped together it does.
Speaker 1: That was my first thought is like how do they
Speaker 1: know that the one the results that just gave me suck,
Speaker 1: you know, like as opposed to the ones. So we're
Speaker 1: our writer JM put this story together and you know,
Speaker 1: is giving us the results for Thanos taking a back
Speaker 1: bathroom mirror selfie, gender vealmut eleven, the Spina one, the
Speaker 1: a couple more down below that we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: and they're all like pretty solid, and but like, does
Speaker 1: is there a machine learning aspect where it knows that, okay,
Speaker 1: those are like the five search terms that actually work
Speaker 1: and everything everything else is very bad. Like it, it
Speaker 1: does seem like it should give you a chance to
Speaker 1: like click on the best one or something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm over here work shopping this for them, But it
Speaker 1: does feel like it's not not all the way. There
Speaker 1: um other problem a I ultimately uses like raw material
Speaker 1: like you guys were saying that it is provided by humanity,
Speaker 1: and when it leans racist and misogynist, yes, so like
Speaker 1: so the neural network is pulling from enormous pools of
Speaker 1: online text, images and other data that show bias, of course,
Speaker 1: like if you ask for a nurse, that will produce women.
Speaker 1: Lawyers are all men, weddings are all heterosexual, CEO will
Speaker 1: give you a picture of a white man. And then
Speaker 1: there's also you know, we were talking about erotica. Dolly
Speaker 1: will quote merrily produce explicit content depicting nudity or violence.
Speaker 1: He said merrily the designer. I think it's a I
Speaker 1: think it's from the vice right up of like alright,
Speaker 1: I will merrily produce these images for you, but you know,
Speaker 1: the like, for instance, the way people use egg plant
Speaker 1: emoji in a sexual context, the prompt a person eating
Speaker 1: eggplant for dinner ended up generating like very fhallic imagery.
Speaker 1: Oh no, just like the AI I'll excuse pervert. It's like,
Speaker 1: you don't know what a fucking egg plan is? Like sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah, Like I can't imagine something that crawls
Speaker 1: the Internet and doesn't come back completely, you know, demented
Speaker 1: and evil, right, you know, yeah, it's it's just kind
Speaker 1: of like spitting us back to us, right sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not saying that that that's necessarily
Speaker 1: a positive thing, but no, I mean I think it is,
Speaker 1: because it's merely saying, okay, train me, this is based
Speaker 1: on what your humanity has depicted as these things. Alright,
Speaker 1: let her rip. This is what you wanted to see, CEO.
Speaker 1: Is this dinosaur guy? Yeah, Danny DeVito and stand class
Speaker 1: though your time. It's fantastic. Yeah, I want that on velvet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because poster version yeah, or yeah, or the texture itself,
Speaker 1: it does seem like fabric e it doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the the images does they do look like stained glass.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, that would be a wonderful tapestry, like
Speaker 1: a fabric tapestry for your wall. It gives you like
Speaker 1: a good starting place to then touch it up. But like,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the face always looks like somebody like
Speaker 1: you know, a person who has had a face transplant
Speaker 1: or something like. It's kind of all over the place.
Speaker 1: There are some wild ones in that subreddit right now
Speaker 1: where people are just putting their weird Dolly submissions. One
Speaker 1: is Osama bin Laden Funko pop Doll. It looks like
Speaker 1: they nail it Jars R. Banks at the Nuremberg trial.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Oh my god, so Margaret that you you're
Speaker 1: meeting Satan. I think a lot of people are having
Speaker 1: fun with this. So yeah, I'm glad we don't have
Speaker 1: the full blown version of Dolly yet where they're like,
Speaker 1: this looks like full blown, like misinfluence. This actually happened
Speaker 1: right now. It's like a a beginner level of photoshop
Speaker 1: expertise working in like or so it seems to be
Speaker 1: what we're working generous. Yeah, it makes me wonder because
Speaker 1: I know we will eventually hit the point where like
Speaker 1: nobody believes reality anymore. And nobody accepts reality and everybody's
Speaker 1: reality is completely incorrect because of you know, obviously right
Speaker 1: now because of misinformation online, we're seeing that and how
Speaker 1: it plays out in kind of an ugly way. But
Speaker 1: once this ai and you know, people start doing the
Speaker 1: things so like such a woman start doing the things
Speaker 1: with the faces, you know, I mean, at what point
Speaker 1: it's got to be within six seven years that everything
Speaker 1: is five times worse than it is now because you
Speaker 1: you can't believe anything, because everything can just be you know,
Speaker 1: created on computer and you can make it look like
Speaker 1: Joe Biden saying something completely terrible and it's completely believable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: six seven years before that, just I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like the people who are behind it, they've already
Speaker 1: got it figured out. It just probably takes massive amounts
Speaker 1: of like computing power. But you know, because they talk
Speaker 1: about all the time, like we've seen already really disturbingly
Speaker 1: accurate like deep fake videos, and so it's clearly like
Speaker 1: the capability is there. But like I think, yeah, like
Speaker 1: when it gets to the point when it's like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: just sucking deep fake some ship on your phone, that's
Speaker 1: and I think that's maybe, yeah, that that probably is
Speaker 1: not too far off. But I think that's why there's
Speaker 1: like also like this counter campaign of people to try
Speaker 1: and develop the kinds of tools to like help be
Speaker 1: like we can we can identify deep fake video like
Speaker 1: nine percent accuracy like every time, because that is like
Speaker 1: the other half of it that, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be normalized in this like back
Speaker 1: and forth of like completely realistic images and then the
Speaker 1: next part, which is people like you're saying to me, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I like to believe that that deep
Speaker 1: bake is true, so fuck it, it's true for me. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like fact checking. You know, you put the Politofact
Speaker 1: thing up there, and then someone goes, politic fact is
Speaker 1: actually secretly owned by George Soros, and you're like, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there a any like trend surprising thing that is
Speaker 1: like cropped up and like on upworthy as a thing
Speaker 1: that like people are using to kind of get through
Speaker 1: these dark times that that like you've noticed or that
Speaker 1: you guys have like seen seen become a trend. I
Speaker 1: mean obviously like pets and adorable children and like you know,
Speaker 1: but I think those are the ones that immediately spring
Speaker 1: to mind. But have you noticed anything besides really hot
Speaker 1: balloon action that has popped out to you. Ah, Well,
Speaker 1: when it comes to Upworthy, we've kind of pivoted over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years from something that was a
Speaker 1: little we were it was more political. We're kind of
Speaker 1: progressively political, and we've kind of ran from that a
Speaker 1: bit into actually creating a space it's kind of a
Speaker 1: political and I think people really love that. So it's
Speaker 1: almost like the whole platform in and of itself has
Speaker 1: has become the thing people are going to. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: at least it's it's our audience, which is pretty large
Speaker 1: because they just don't want you know, the politics and
Speaker 1: stuff in their face understandable, so you know, there's a
Speaker 1: big need for it. And and the the cool thing
Speaker 1: is that actually we're able to do very well as
Speaker 1: a publisher creating stories that are that are you know,
Speaker 1: our counter programming to what's going on normally in people's
Speaker 1: Facebook feeds. And not everybody has been successful at doing
Speaker 1: that because, uh, usually good news and things like that
Speaker 1: is my virtue. It's not what people are looking for
Speaker 1: because people have a negative ativity bias because they naturally
Speaker 1: seek out what they you know are afraid of you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if it bleeds, it leads, right. So the
Speaker 1: fact that we've been able to create stories that are
Speaker 1: still compelling and positive, I think it's a testament to
Speaker 1: you know, the the quality of like writers we have
Speaker 1: that we're able to do do well with that. So right,
Speaker 1: got it? All right? Man? Well, thank you Todd for
Speaker 1: joining us. It's been a pleasure having you on. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Well,
Speaker 1: every week every Saturday, we have Upworthy Weekly, which is
Speaker 1: a podcast with myself and Alison Rosen that's been on
Speaker 1: this show. Uh, you know from Alison Rosen and your
Speaker 1: your best friend and she was on the autom Corolla
Speaker 1: Show and she's just wonderful. And we do a show
Speaker 1: we kind of break down almost like your show, but
Speaker 1: we we do more like kind of upward these things.
Speaker 1: It's it's things coming from the upworthy news bubble, which
Speaker 1: is like positive, good vibe, feel good stuff. So we
Speaker 1: do that show every Saturday, and I think it's a hoot. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you can follow me on Twitter at Todd
Speaker 1: with one D a middle initial Perry at Todd a
Speaker 1: Perry And um, I thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: having me on. I had a really good time of
Speaker 1: recent I've been more in the upworthy news bubble. So
Speaker 1: seeing two guys that are really informed, uh and being
Speaker 1: able to hang out with you guys today it was
Speaker 1: really cool. So, oh thanks man, I've past five years
Speaker 1: I've been you know, I'm actually twenty three years old,
Speaker 1: and this is what I look like. I look like shit,
Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, look like fucking ship and Todd, is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Actually, you know what, when I
Speaker 1: saw this and it was sent to me, it was
Speaker 1: like your recommendation, So I went totally like off the
Speaker 1: board and didn't do anything that was on social media unfortunately,
Speaker 1: So recommendations of all sorts and probably now more than
Speaker 1: every king is recommendations that have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: social media. But you know, there are some great balloon
Speaker 1: sights on Instagram, uh, for for anybody anybody into that kid.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, Yeah, thank you. Miles. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me? Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray g R A y also find us on
Speaker 1: Miles and Jack got mad Boost These and NBA podcast
Speaker 1: were talking about the NBA Finals. What a game Game three? This,
Speaker 1: I think the Celtics might win six. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: feeling that. I'm just I can't deny it. I love
Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum. I hate to say it. I love him.
Speaker 1: He looks just like my cousins. Shout out Austin. Let's
Speaker 1: see what else. Also the other podcast for twenty Day
Speaker 1: Fiance with Sophia Alexandro where we talk ninety day Fiance
Speaker 1: a tweet that I like, let me just pull this
Speaker 1: thing up. Uh, okay, So this is from look I
Speaker 1: love I think you should leave memes that I think
Speaker 1: you should leave memes account, which is at I t
Speaker 1: y s l Underscore Memes. It said not feeding the
Speaker 1: guests that my I think you should leave themed wedding
Speaker 1: because I spent the catering budget on Bart Harley Jarvis
Speaker 1: and Carl Havoc impersonated. Uh and I just love That's
Speaker 1: the specificity of that one. And then also this is
Speaker 1: from Chase Mitchell at Chase mitt has a screen screen
Speaker 1: cap of the first Jurassic Park film where the t
Speaker 1: Rex t Rex first blows through the electrical fence with
Speaker 1: all the trapped Ford Explorers right there, and I tweeted,
Speaker 1: I firmly believe that as long as we live, CG
Speaker 1: will never look better or more convincing than it does
Speaker 1: in this scene. We peaked early, and I when I
Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly believe that. I still to this day, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that ship looks so good. I'm what happened? Like where
Speaker 1: is it? Because it's most of it? Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good stan Winston stuff. But like
Speaker 1: even when it's out walking, like those looked really good too. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that was just a dude in a rubber suit man.
Speaker 1: That was just a guy with gigantism. And as tweet
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying at NIF, Muhammed tweeted, I'm back to
Speaker 1: getting up fifty to seventy five jump shots in the
Speaker 1: evenings when I can. And today someone saw me on
Speaker 1: the court and watched me make a few in a
Speaker 1: row and yelled, hey man, there's a tornado warning. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was some kind of compliment on my shooting,
Speaker 1: so I yelled back, I know that's right. You can
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as that song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh man,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a track from the group Arrow
Speaker 1: Whack R A R A W A K. And it's
Speaker 1: called kad A Harlem A C C A D D
Speaker 1: E then A then Harley like Harley Harlom New York.
Speaker 1: And this is a track it's just it's it's like, um,
Speaker 1: what's the dude? Jethro Tull? Right, Like if Jethro Toll
Speaker 1: was like a character from Shaft. This like if that
Speaker 1: like because it's like a funky flute track that has
Speaker 1: like some darkness to some grit to it, Like it's
Speaker 1: really a flute that bring the flute key flute that
Speaker 1: there it is, you know what I mean, Get on
Speaker 1: that one leg like you're hitting that flute solo for
Speaker 1: Jethro Tull and check this one out a cod a
Speaker 1: Harlem by Errow whack. Alright, well, we're gonna link off
Speaker 1: to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a
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