Speaker 1: Oh, hello Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty second,
Speaker 1: episode five of the Daily Night Cast up reduction of
Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. This is This is This is a
Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into america shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: It's Friday. It's sing Friday. Thank you satan uh May
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Speaker 1: too good. He can see better than better than better
Speaker 1: than you. Okay, shout out to who is that Melisson?
Speaker 1: And all so cal Maryan on the discord because yes,
Speaker 1: I got the lay sick. Yes my vision is ten. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing ship on the moon. That's just how it is.
Speaker 1: So thank you for you know, honoring that in the
Speaker 1: form of song. And today I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: by my guest co host, you know, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite homies to get on the Linke with you know
Speaker 1: somebody who's a hilarious comedian, a writer, actor, The iconic
Speaker 1: podcast pod Yourself a Gun. The Sopranos podcast is in
Speaker 1: its final season because it's a watching long show. It
Speaker 1: only there's only so many things you can talk to
Speaker 1: a finite amount exactly, the final season, the final countdown.
Speaker 1: Please welcome today's guest co host Matt Lee. Hey, don't stop,
Speaker 1: Matt Leeve and hold onto that madly feeling. And that's
Speaker 1: a shout out to both myself and the final episode
Speaker 1: of The Sopranos Switch for him recovery next movie. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. Well, that's the question, isn't it. It
Speaker 1: just it just goes black screen when you when you did,
Speaker 1: I hit my fucking TV and I called my cable provider. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole world did the same thing. They hit their
Speaker 1: TV and they were like, no fun. Fuck. And then
Speaker 1: they saw the credits come up and they're like, this
Speaker 1: is impossible. That David Chase and HBO would end the
Speaker 1: greatest series of all time with a prank is the
Speaker 1: most insane thing that you can possibly think of for
Speaker 1: an ending. But that's what they did. And you know what,
Speaker 1: God Bless them, God, bless them for doing that, because
Speaker 1: there's something about disdain for your fan base that I
Speaker 1: that speaks to me and my soul, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, you don't you don't let the fans
Speaker 1: control your art. You control your art, and you let
Speaker 1: the piggies lap it up. That's what I say. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, so good for good for David h ending
Speaker 1: the show with a prank the piggies lap it up.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what Remembrandt said, That's what remem brand Once said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was what Oscar Wilde one said. Uh, well, guess
Speaker 1: who we have got in our third seed who finally, finally, finally, finally,
Speaker 1: this person is coming to the stage, the metaphorical stage,
Speaker 1: somebody who I've known for a minute, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why you gonna need to come on Daily Sight guys?
Speaker 1: Well the planets so happened to a line, and today's
Speaker 1: guest is a wonderful human being who loves to share
Speaker 1: his infinite knowledge with the people and make things, maybe
Speaker 1: the most complex things, much easier to understand. Maybe take
Speaker 1: something you like it may have straight up ruined it
Speaker 1: for you. Who knows you may know him from the
Speaker 1: show Adam ruins everything I know I do. You may
Speaker 1: have known him from the College humor days, or maybe
Speaker 1: you turned on Netflix today and you saw what is
Speaker 1: this the G word with Adam Conover. Okay, I guess
Speaker 1: that is today's guest. Please welcome the brilliant Adam Conover. Hello. Hello,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so wonderful being it. What an introduction,
Speaker 1: my incredible straight off the dome? Straight off the dome?
Speaker 1: Would you expect? What do you expect? How are you? Man?
Speaker 1: I'll do it pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. The
Speaker 1: show just came out. I'm like, this podcast is a
Speaker 1: nice break from me name searching on Twitter to see
Speaker 1: what people are saying about the show was really searching
Speaker 1: your own name like that. Of course, I am who
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. There's literally there's not a person in
Speaker 1: the world who does not name search themselves, who have
Speaker 1: even the smallest public persona. I'll tell you this. I
Speaker 1: did it when I had a YouTube channel. I used
Speaker 1: to do it, and I couldn't. I got so in
Speaker 1: my own head reading other people's words about me. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this doesn't help me at all. So
Speaker 1: I actually I've I've like cauterized that part of my
Speaker 1: ego that it's terrible, terrible, and there are many there
Speaker 1: are many times that I have cut myself off from
Speaker 1: doing it and I have stopped doing it. But right
Speaker 1: now the show is coming out, and I'm also specifically
Speaker 1: honestly trying to build more on social I'm doing TikTok.
Speaker 1: I'm on a TikTok diet. I'm making myself make TikTok's
Speaker 1: every day because I'm good. I'm good on there. My
Speaker 1: ship works on TikTok. I'm like, fuck, now I have
Speaker 1: to invest time in TikTok because if I do, I
Speaker 1: will become miserably more famous. And so I like have
Speaker 1: to spend time on there, and so I'm just having
Speaker 1: to do it. At some point, I'm gonna have two detox.
Speaker 1: But you want to know the sickest thing I do,
Speaker 1: this is not even what I'm here to talk about. You.
Speaker 1: One of the sickest thing that I do. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: will search. You know how people when they want to
Speaker 1: talk about someone but they don't want that person or
Speaker 1: their fans to find it out, and they'll put stars
Speaker 1: in I name searched myself with the stars in to
Speaker 1: see if people are talking about me when trying to
Speaker 1: not find out that I am. And guess what fucking
Speaker 1: anime avatars you furries. It's it's people on the deep
Speaker 1: the deep deep part of Twitter us, and they're not
Speaker 1: saying any of this. People almost never have that strong
Speaker 1: of an opinion about me that they want to do.
Speaker 1: But um, yes, I'm a true name search sicko right now.
Speaker 1: Hopefully in a month I can take a break and
Speaker 1: stop doing it. Yeah, I say keep it going, to
Speaker 1: keep it going, Yeah, keep it going. It might as well.
Speaker 1: Just you gotta know what the piggies are saying about you.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, a comic, you know, a
Speaker 1: stand up comic, you you expose yourself to the audience's judgment,
Speaker 1: whether they laugh or not. So that's that's what got
Speaker 1: me into this in the first place. And so name
Speaker 1: searching on Twitter is the closest you get on social
Speaker 1: media to seeing if you gotta laugh. I put a
Speaker 1: Google alert of myself that I've had on for years now,
Speaker 1: and it was there's this other Matt Lead was like
Speaker 1: a really good high school athlete and he gets a
Speaker 1: lot of press, and I'm getting kind of tired of
Speaker 1: his as the famous Matt Lead play. I think he
Speaker 1: was playing baseball baseball name. Yeah, yeah, for sure, there's no.
Speaker 1: There's no Matt was just like number one draft pick
Speaker 1: of the NBA at lea yea, I have that too.
Speaker 1: There's a guy and Adam Conover and I think Iowa,
Speaker 1: who is like a champion pig raiser, Like he was
Speaker 1: a high school student who was winning competitions, blue ribbons
Speaker 1: for his pigs. And I followed his whole career because
Speaker 1: I would get alerts for him. And then eventually he
Speaker 1: joined like the Pork Board of Iowa or whatever. And
Speaker 1: now he's like, uh, you know, a big muckety mucky
Speaker 1: in the pork raising industry. Good for that, Adam Conover,
Speaker 1: I said, kind of. I really like that, Adam Conover.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I mean, just the raising pigs is
Speaker 1: he's raising them to kill them. This man has killed
Speaker 1: a lot of pigs. Well, sometimes you gotta kill the
Speaker 1: pigs man, you know. He says that boils down. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna get to know you better, Adam
Speaker 1: going to talk about the new show. We're gonna obviously
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, just some things you've been looking into.
Speaker 1: But first you gotta tell the listeners what we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about today on this Friday. First, I just
Speaker 1: want to you know, the continued disconnect between legislators and
Speaker 1: workers continues, but in this context talking about the pandemic
Speaker 1: and everyone insisting like, well, hospitalizations are well, that's fine,
Speaker 1: completely unaware or just ignorant of the fact. What is
Speaker 1: actually happening with healthcare workers? What is the last two years,
Speaker 1: What has that been like that for them? And maybe
Speaker 1: our system is already like past the point of being strained.
Speaker 1: But again, we use these interesting metrics to soothe ourselves.
Speaker 1: So we'll look a little bit past that and look
Speaker 1: at the I guess, the human reality of that. All. Well,
Speaker 1: also obviously got to talk about the Freudian slip of
Speaker 1: the fucking century from George Bush too. Uh my goodness, Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: I'm seventy five, hey man, war crimes are there, there's
Speaker 1: there's a statute of limitations if you're seventy five, slip up. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that and we'll also talk about a fucking new
Speaker 1: research study that's come out that I want to just
Speaker 1: used to dunk on my mom and all my teachers
Speaker 1: that who told me video games will rob my brain. Okay,
Speaker 1: study showing it actually can increase intelligence, and yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: what is and what that is it? But first we
Speaker 1: gotta ask you, Adam, what's something besides your name and
Speaker 1: all the permutations using asterisks? Have you been searching? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, here's the thing I was. That was what
Speaker 1: I was gonna use for the answer to this question.
Speaker 1: Was because I saw that they said, hey, you gotta
Speaker 1: be ready with a Google search. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: name search. And then I happened to just drop it
Speaker 1: too early and ruin my entire answer this question. I
Speaker 1: have once again ruined myself. How do I search? Here's
Speaker 1: my problem. I don't use Google. I use duck duck Go,
Speaker 1: and duck duck Go does not remember your search history.
Speaker 1: Think back, think back. Come on, this is a good exthotic. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: let me find let the last thing you duck duck go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up directly. I'm gonna find out
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. Uh. Okay, I'm working on the last,
Speaker 1: the literal last thing I searched for was. I'm working
Speaker 1: on a new pitch, a pitch for a new television show.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about what that is. But for the
Speaker 1: pitch document, I had to write in some funny trivia
Speaker 1: team names. It's a game show, is the idea. We're
Speaker 1: pitching a game show and where there's gonna be teams
Speaker 1: and they're gonna pick names for themselves. And so for
Speaker 1: the pitch document, I looked up I was like, give
Speaker 1: me a list of funny trivia team names, and I
Speaker 1: found like a whole just like s c O shit
Speaker 1: pile of like websites you would not believe would have
Speaker 1: trivia team name lists, Parade dot com, Scary Mommy dot com,
Speaker 1: and they're just full of shitty, really really terrible, offensive,
Speaker 1: racist like trivia team names for if you if you
Speaker 1: have for pub trivia, You're like, I I need to
Speaker 1: come with a funny name and there's all these fucking lists. Um,
Speaker 1: that was literally the last thing that I searched for.
Speaker 1: And you're trying to get inspired, Yes, I was trying
Speaker 1: to get inspired. I was trying to rip off the
Speaker 1: work of some unfunny people for my I love the
Speaker 1: idea that there's rate like people like, all right, the
Speaker 1: winner is the greedy juice. Again, I don't know why
Speaker 1: you guys insist on naming your team the greedy Juice,
Speaker 1: But they're really good at I know it's spelled juice.
Speaker 1: Like the previous thing guys are for. To give you
Speaker 1: one more was, I was trying to find the most
Speaker 1: effective climate charity and I was looking for websites that
Speaker 1: evaluate climate related you know, charities, because I was looking
Speaker 1: at my charitable giving and I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what climate group I wanted to donate to, and
Speaker 1: I was trying to find trying to find that. Did
Speaker 1: you find a good one? I found? I found some
Speaker 1: pretty good recommendations. The recommendations from a group called Giving
Speaker 1: Green dot Earth, which tries to use metrics to figure
Speaker 1: out which are the most effective. Their recommendations are, let
Speaker 1: me pull them up. There's one called Evergreen Collaborative. They
Speaker 1: used to recommend Sunrise Movement, and I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: sunrise movement, and so I was starting to dig into
Speaker 1: their criteria. Why are they no longer recommending sunrise movement
Speaker 1: where they recommending these other groups? And then I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I had actual work to do. I can research this later.
Speaker 1: And I closed right right, And that's what I did
Speaker 1: earlier today, I like that, are these good answers or
Speaker 1: is this extremely born? You've learned something about me exactly?
Speaker 1: We learned that you look. Guys, if you want to
Speaker 1: funk with Adam con Over, just start doing some bullshit
Speaker 1: tweets with this name some random ship and put all
Speaker 1: the astericks you want. He will find you. You will
Speaker 1: figure it out. You will try. Let's do an asterisk
Speaker 1: on the second a. Let's do an asterisk on the
Speaker 1: first day, right, every single permutation, like nine factorial exactly,
Speaker 1: Man that luckily got that legendary hairline at him, because
Speaker 1: they might start selling you Adam comb Over. WHOA. It's
Speaker 1: creeped up a little bit, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going any further. As I saw you in person, man,
Speaker 1: I was I was looking dead at your hairline the
Speaker 1: whole time. I was like, God, damn it, he's still
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, you do have like you have hair.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's my one features, the one thing you
Speaker 1: got going. I mean, aside from all the other great things.
Speaker 1: Don't play yet what some of you thing is overrated?
Speaker 1: At him? Oh my god, something I think is overrated
Speaker 1: the first Okay, it's so like cliche of me to
Speaker 1: say this, but I used to enjoy the Marvel movies.
Speaker 1: I used to like them, and I finally saw the
Speaker 1: Spider Man movie and I was like, this is what
Speaker 1: this is what people were excited about that that Dr
Speaker 1: Octopus from the previous movie showed up. I enjoyed seeing
Speaker 1: Dr Octopus, but then he had nothing to do in
Speaker 1: this movie. He's just stands around and goes, I'm mad
Speaker 1: to be in a cage, and that's about it. And
Speaker 1: then the other two Spider Man's show up. We got
Speaker 1: two other Spider Man's and they just stand around doing
Speaker 1: stick like they're just like they're just like doing fucking
Speaker 1: a duo comedy act and like that's it. And they
Speaker 1: do that for like forty five minutes. They just stand
Speaker 1: around in a living room and go like you're a
Speaker 1: Spider Man, hey by, and they just do like classed
Speaker 1: the whole forty five minutes. Clap whole time because that
Speaker 1: Spider Man from all Spider Man's remember, but you remember
Speaker 1: from Spider Man. There's the meme each other, each other.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like turning the turning the little bit
Speaker 1: of fans service that's fun into the whole movie. Like
Speaker 1: that's not a whole movie. The actual the movie itself
Speaker 1: had no story whatsoever. The story was Peter Parker is
Speaker 1: upset that his friends didn't get into the school of
Speaker 1: their choice, and so he went and bothered Dr Strange.
Speaker 1: He just was like being annoying at Doctor Strange and
Speaker 1: then caused a big tragedy. In a story, you want
Speaker 1: the problem to be caused by the character's fatal flaw, right, like,
Speaker 1: whatever their character, your problem is, and then that causes
Speaker 1: the story to start, and then they have to work
Speaker 1: through that flaw in order to solve the problem. In
Speaker 1: this case, the problem was caused by Peter Parker can't
Speaker 1: shut up for thirty seconds. Great, nice little bit of comedy,
Speaker 1: But that's what caused the whole thing. There's no story. Instead,
Speaker 1: they're just like, hey, look, look, look we got Andrew Garfield.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you've got Andrew Garfield. I'm so fucking impressed.
Speaker 1: He was self aware. He he knew that his Spider
Speaker 1: Man was worse Spider Man, so it was fun because
Speaker 1: he knew was it wasn't fun. I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: I was on like a ten hour flight and it
Speaker 1: ate up two and a half hours of the flight,
Speaker 1: and so I'm not mad at it for that reason,
Speaker 1: but in your mind you're like, what would you like
Speaker 1: to have seen if if you're directing it, you got
Speaker 1: three Spider Man's, three Spider Men's, you have endless Spider Man's.
Speaker 1: What would you make well fighting together? I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: made that. The New Spider Man movie they just fucking
Speaker 1: did that in into this Spider Verse. They just did it.
Speaker 1: They just did the multiverse and other Spider Man's show up.
Speaker 1: And now they're doing that again. And then the new
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange movie is again we're doing multiverse. Like these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's made the same movie three times? What is the
Speaker 1: what is going on? Like, you know, the Marvel movies
Speaker 1: at their best. What I'm impressed by is that was
Speaker 1: when they surprise you with what they're doing, Like the
Speaker 1: first Tycho Wait Thor movie, I'm like, oh wow, that
Speaker 1: felt original and fresh. I still have concerns about, you know,
Speaker 1: the overall consolidation and like media control of like creativity
Speaker 1: that like great people are exposed to Tycho Wa Titi
Speaker 1: not in his original work, but in his you know,
Speaker 1: in his use of Thor right. But hey, at the
Speaker 1: very least I was like, oh wow, this is a
Speaker 1: lot more character. This is interesting compared to all the
Speaker 1: other Thorn movies. Right, at least let him make a
Speaker 1: movie with his own artistic choices. Whereas that I don't
Speaker 1: think they've let a single director do that. Sense. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what they did was Ryan Johnson with The
Speaker 1: Last Jedi. Right, Like, I enjoyed that movie. It's someone
Speaker 1: else says they don't enjoy it. I have no problem
Speaker 1: with that. But at the very least, Ryan Johnson was
Speaker 1: empowered to make choices in the movie, right, and to
Speaker 1: like do some ship And then he made that movie
Speaker 1: and they were like, no, we don't want people to
Speaker 1: do that anymore. And they're like everything that he said
Speaker 1: didn't happen. It all was, um, they all some people,
Speaker 1: there was a wormhole and none of that happened. And um,
Speaker 1: Rose Tico, she doesn't exist. She was shot in the head.
Speaker 1: She doesn't exist anymore. And and now um, okay, and
Speaker 1: all your friends they all show up at the end
Speaker 1: and Chewbacca's there and everybody shows up to help at
Speaker 1: the end. Is that good? And nobody liked that either? Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing, is that that the problem is. And
Speaker 1: I've said this before, I'll say it again. Don't listen
Speaker 1: to the piggies. The piggies are there to eat the slop.
Speaker 1: They're not there to judge the slop there there, Exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of it, like people being like, oh no,
Speaker 1: the piggies are mad, we should make the slot more.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's like they're never all going to agree
Speaker 1: on the slop their pigs. They need to find at
Speaker 1: like their inner. Will Ferrell and that dog food sketch
Speaker 1: from SnO and he's like, oh, that's right, you're a
Speaker 1: dog exactly. That is the best take on this I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. That's the best take on this. I've ever
Speaker 1: running the slopouse and pigs are running the slot. Now,
Speaker 1: this is why I live by that. I'm so like,
Speaker 1: that's why I like the Sopranos. David Chase, he said,
Speaker 1: fuck you piggies, we're just gonna end with a prank. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's a bigger discussion about art right too.
Speaker 1: It's like there's some artists who clearly express their artistic
Speaker 1: vision and that's what they do. They said, here's my work,
Speaker 1: respond to it, react to it how you will. Others
Speaker 1: are clearly making art as a response to what they
Speaker 1: see and how an audience is going to take that in.
Speaker 1: And that's typically not the kind of art that is
Speaker 1: the most you know, uh impactful. You know, it's usually
Speaker 1: these true expressions of artistry that wow, people like everything
Speaker 1: everywhere all at once like that, and people are like, wow,
Speaker 1: look at that. I don't think the piggies are running.
Speaker 1: That's loop out that they just did that ship and
Speaker 1: everyone's mind was blown. So yeah, you guys, see the
Speaker 1: New Matrix, the New Matrix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is
Speaker 1: the perfect counter example because the New Matrix is Lana
Speaker 1: Wachowski saying, here's what here is what the fucking movie
Speaker 1: was about. And I'm gonna tell you this is what
Speaker 1: I was trying to do, and I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: direct conversation with you the audience. Hey, remember you remember
Speaker 1: this movie I made? Remember this movie? Like? You love
Speaker 1: this movie, didn't you? I love making the movie. But hey,
Speaker 1: guess what, We're twenty years older now, right, things are
Speaker 1: looking a little bit different and a lot of people
Speaker 1: misunderstood the movie. But here's what it was actually about,
Speaker 1: and here are my thoughts on it now, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna share it, and here's my thoughts on the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm making this fucking movie at all. It's kind
Speaker 1: of bullshit that I'm even making this. But you know what,
Speaker 1: here's what I believe about the world. Here's what I
Speaker 1: believe about life, and this is my statement. And she
Speaker 1: said that so directly. I've never felt a director more.
Speaker 1: I remember felt more on the same page as the
Speaker 1: director where they were like, here's what I'm about, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I hear what you're about. I see it.
Speaker 1: Thank you for telling me about it. And you know what,
Speaker 1: that movie didn't do as well as it needed to
Speaker 1: for they gave her so much money to make that
Speaker 1: movie and it did not make the money back. And
Speaker 1: thank God, like, thank god that that's what happened, because
Speaker 1: that's how it should be. We want messy tours when people,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone now is reevaluating the Star Wars prequels
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, the George Lucas prequels were were better
Speaker 1: than we than what we're getting now. And the reason
Speaker 1: is George Lucas completely forgot how to make a movie
Speaker 1: when he was making those. He was like just like
Speaker 1: he just like, how do you make a fight scene?
Speaker 1: I don't know. He just forgot but at the very
Speaker 1: least it was just one weird dude and his weird ideas,
Speaker 1: you know, just like going going nuts, going like I
Speaker 1: want uh, you know, Jamaican parody character and I want
Speaker 1: to like all this horrible ship. But the very least
Speaker 1: it was unique, you know what I mean. It was lumpy,
Speaker 1: it was person it was an autour going nuts, And
Speaker 1: that's what we want. We don't want all this, you know,
Speaker 1: like over focused tested shit, you know, right. You want
Speaker 1: to be able to watch a film and almost be
Speaker 1: like from the feel of it, like oh, it's this director,
Speaker 1: you know, and we and now so many times you
Speaker 1: look at like I don't there's so many there's such
Speaker 1: a lack of like discerning traits in a lot of
Speaker 1: like mainstream cinema that you're like, I don't know, that's
Speaker 1: a two hour long thingm is like one of the
Speaker 1: worst movies ever made, And it's so wonderful to watch
Speaker 1: because you know it's coming direct from this guy's warped mind,
Speaker 1: and it's like, at least it's that it's not this
Speaker 1: like mass produced you know thing. There's no there's no
Speaker 1: he's not trying to make a general audience do anything.
Speaker 1: But like see his weird thoughts and they're bad and
Speaker 1: it's wonderful, and I think that's like, yeah, Demolition Man,
Speaker 1: I'll always point to that. Marco Branbia, the director of that,
Speaker 1: is an artist. He's a visual artist, and that was
Speaker 1: the one film he made. But because the studios were
Speaker 1: trying to like get butt in on everything, He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm an artist, What the funk are you doing in
Speaker 1: the movie I'm trying to make. And then they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, Demolition Man was pretty cool. You want
Speaker 1: to do another one. He's like, no, I never want
Speaker 1: to make a film with people again because I'm an artist.
Speaker 1: And now he does like amazing visual like video installations
Speaker 1: that are fucking breathtaking. Like if you're ever I alway
Speaker 1: talking about it, if you're at the Standard in New York,
Speaker 1: if you look in the in the elevators, you'll see
Speaker 1: like this animated thing of like stitch together film clips.
Speaker 1: As you go up or down the elevator, they're either
Speaker 1: ascending to heaven or descending into hell. That's a work
Speaker 1: of Marco Brambilla's, but it's usually done on a much
Speaker 1: larger scale like he's doing, like you know, thirty foot
Speaker 1: by sixteen foot high like video projections that are in
Speaker 1: three D that are absolutely ridiculous. So if you ever
Speaker 1: have the chance to encounter any of his work, absolutely
Speaker 1: check it out and be like, Yeah, that fucking guy
Speaker 1: made Demolition Man and called it quits. So moving on, underrated, Adam,
Speaker 1: what something is? Oh my god, you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: I probably should not go on at such great length
Speaker 1: about these things because it's you know, you have a
Speaker 1: lot of show to get to and I'm ranting a
Speaker 1: rate the show. We're talking, we're chatting. I want to
Speaker 1: hear from you. Thank God, what is underrated? Um that
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it, it's just because I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle of watching it right now. Better Call Saul is
Speaker 1: better than Breaking Bad. Better Call sauls and better show
Speaker 1: than Breaking Bad than it ever was. Um, it's subverting
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad in a really interesting way. The characters are
Speaker 1: much more interesting. It surprises you at every turn. They're
Speaker 1: really deep into it now, like a tenth as many
Speaker 1: people are watching it as watched Breaking Bad. But like
Speaker 1: the whole Walter White thing, let's be honest, kind of sucked.
Speaker 1: Not that interesting. It was all the other stuff that
Speaker 1: they were doing on the show that made it special,
Speaker 1: and they're doing it all on Breaking Bad. It makes
Speaker 1: like better call Saul makes like the worst asshole of America.
Speaker 1: Suburban like Arizona or no New Mexico. Excuse me, suburban
Speaker 1: New Mexico looks so interesting and I love it. Incredible productions, design,
Speaker 1: incredible performances. I would kill for Kim Wexler. The I'm
Speaker 1: only up to episode four, so if something bad happens
Speaker 1: to Kim Wexler, don't tell me, okay, and and don't
Speaker 1: write it in a review of the Netflix show either
Speaker 1: to try and yeah, don't spoil it, from which I
Speaker 1: will find out, do not put it in add start
Speaker 1: um see star over Adam, Kim wex Or dies, don't
Speaker 1: fucking tell me that. Don't say that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it was like I remember when it first came out.
Speaker 1: I was all in because I like Breaking Bad, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, damn, this has got like we're
Speaker 1: getting some real depth now behind everybody. Like before you're like, man,
Speaker 1: look at Oden Kirk. He's he's a hilarious scumbags Breaking Bad,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, fuck, okay, like really much darker. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the best episodes are just him doing lawyer stuff. Like
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of episodes where it's just like somebody's
Speaker 1: got a problem, and it's like, I would love to
Speaker 1: see the version of Better Call Soul. That's just a
Speaker 1: lawyer procedural show where it's just like a scummy defense
Speaker 1: attorney like gets people off and it's just law and
Speaker 1: order style, no arc, you know, because that's really entertaining
Speaker 1: to me is just seeing him like, you know, try
Speaker 1: to try to help people in a somewhat selfish way.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it. Yeah, good one. I like that one. So
Speaker 1: I haven't started the latest season yet, but because I
Speaker 1: I get like really impatient, and I've always waited for
Speaker 1: the season to end so that I can just fly
Speaker 1: right through it because that's that's I do the same
Speaker 1: thing I because I know I'm gonna binge and there's
Speaker 1: nothing worse than Yeah, you hit that wall and you're
Speaker 1: just like, what are you doing with my day? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Then you can't find the thing to do with your day,
Speaker 1: and severance is over. I'm like freaking out. I need
Speaker 1: more severance in my life. Whenever I've been to a
Speaker 1: live show, my luck is always the last episode. I
Speaker 1: watched is like the day after it aired, and I
Speaker 1: fully have like one week to wait until then. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: why this fucking Tim. He's like this, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to
Speaker 1: talk about these news things. Ye, and we're back. The
Speaker 1: continued disconnect between the people who make the laws and
Speaker 1: the humans who have to do the work continues because
Speaker 1: we're constantly here about how the you know, the pandemic
Speaker 1: actually isn't that bad anymore? Right now, then chill, you
Speaker 1: can take your mask off and planes, you can yell
Speaker 1: at people wearing masks. It's great, Yeah, exactly, do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. And you know, again, the message is
Speaker 1: sort of like, there's nothing to fear, nothing's going on. Sure,
Speaker 1: we don't know much about long covid or haven't really
Speaker 1: funded the pandemic response to this point, but it's all
Speaker 1: to the g y'all just trust we And the main
Speaker 1: thing that they point to is that, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: hospitalizations aren't going up. That's a good thing. Case numbers
Speaker 1: maybe going up. But the thing we're really looking at
Speaker 1: their hospitalization is because the last thing you want to
Speaker 1: do is overload the hospitals. And crippled health care system,
Speaker 1: and we don't on overwhelm the people that are working there. Well,
Speaker 1: even though that figure may hold in some places, they're
Speaker 1: also we're starting to see hot spots in the U
Speaker 1: s where hospitalizations are increasing. So as much as it's
Speaker 1: nice to remind ourselves of how low things may have
Speaker 1: been at a certain point previously, I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing that is being missed and Ed Young at the Atlantic,
Speaker 1: Who's you know, want of like a Pulitzer for his
Speaker 1: coverage on COVID pandemic really points to the fact is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure you're talking about that. He's like, for people who
Speaker 1: are really looking at this situation, you're completely missing the point,
Speaker 1: which is the healthcare workers and where morale is and
Speaker 1: what that looks like. The state of the health care
Speaker 1: system and the morale is absolutely's catastrophically low. Right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read from uh Ed Young's piece here
Speaker 1: quote even inquired or periods healthcare healthcare workers are scrambling
Speaker 1: to catch up with backlogs of work that went unaddressed
Speaker 1: during COVID surges, or patients who sat on health problems
Speaker 1: and are now much sicker. Those patients are more antagonistic
Speaker 1: verbal and physical assaults are commonplace now. Healthcare workers can
Speaker 1: also still catch COVID, keeping them from their jobs, while
Speaker 1: surges elsewhere in the world create supply chain issues that
Speaker 1: keep hospitals from running smoothly. All this on top of
Speaker 1: two years of devastating COVID surges, means that healthcare workers
Speaker 1: are so exhausted and burned out that those words have
Speaker 1: become euphemisms. That's the state of the people who like
Speaker 1: are you know. Remember in the beginning of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: there countless selfie videos of stressed out healthcare workers on
Speaker 1: the front line saying, y'all, please, this is not a
Speaker 1: fucking game. Yeah, Miles, care yourself, Miles. I went outside
Speaker 1: every single day with my pots and pants and I
Speaker 1: bang those motherfucker's all right. So I don't know why
Speaker 1: you're getting on my ass now because I did my
Speaker 1: part the pants. It's not the pan banging, sir. We
Speaker 1: we also said, as healthcare officials, please use social distancing,
Speaker 1: please wear masks, and I'm not doing all that ship no,
Speaker 1: but I will slap my hands together at seven every
Speaker 1: night for the healthcare workers or the lakers, depending on
Speaker 1: which is on first, depending what time of the years,
Speaker 1: and if it's the postseason, nope, never mind. So I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just stopping for the health care workers, and
Speaker 1: it it's just a very like you know, many of
Speaker 1: us are doing the thing. We look at line graphs
Speaker 1: and we're like, yay, line go down or like line flat,
Speaker 1: and you know, sure for right now, But many healthcare
Speaker 1: workers they're still dealing with this two year nightmare they've
Speaker 1: experienced of constantly traumatic experiences of counting or of zipping
Speaker 1: up countless body bags while screaming at the public and
Speaker 1: pleading with people. They're saying, you're not y'all are living
Speaker 1: your outside world life, but the inhospital world is a
Speaker 1: completely different one, and we're trying to get you to
Speaker 1: connect to the humanity of it all. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I like, he goes on in the article to talk
Speaker 1: about how disconnected a lot of healthcare workers feel from
Speaker 1: just the regular world, like like very similar to combat veterans,
Speaker 1: where they only feel that other people in health care
Speaker 1: actually understand the ordeal and how difficult it's been when
Speaker 1: they're saying, like, man, it's so easy, like and we're
Speaker 1: actually the ones that are going through that, like a
Speaker 1: really hard time having repeat this over and over again. No,
Speaker 1: it's really serious, But I have a like, I do
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a beef with how especially
Speaker 1: on social media, people have a conversation about the pandemic
Speaker 1: is over. No, it's not right because people who are going, oh,
Speaker 1: the pandemics over, everything's fine, right, That's not true. There
Speaker 1: are still really serious problems like right, right, But there
Speaker 1: are also people who are going who go, no, you're wrong,
Speaker 1: the pandemics not over. How dare you go outside? How
Speaker 1: dare you spend time with your friends? Or how dare
Speaker 1: you go back to work? Right? And they turn it
Speaker 1: back on individuals and they say, as individuals, you guys
Speaker 1: should be behaving differently. You should be social distancing like me,
Speaker 1: I still don't go to the park without wearing a mask, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that is the wrong thing to say,
Speaker 1: because the reality is, if you look at what public
Speaker 1: health experts, every public health expert said at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, social distancing and you know, staying away
Speaker 1: from other people. That was a way for us to
Speaker 1: buy time for the vaccines and for all the other
Speaker 1: treatments that we were developing. Right, And no, one thought
Speaker 1: that we could continue to you know, social distance indefinitely.
Speaker 1: It's impossible to do. It's impossible to It's not just
Speaker 1: like the fact that oh would shut the economy down.
Speaker 1: It's literally people just simply will not do it. If
Speaker 1: you look at the public, if you look at public health,
Speaker 1: you have to look at what people will agree to do,
Speaker 1: and like the public will not do it on a
Speaker 1: mass level. And so you know, saying to people like
Speaker 1: just individually, wagging your finger at people and saying you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be going to the mall anymore, you know, like
Speaker 1: you're you're you're having too much fun drinking with your friends, right,
Speaker 1: is really really unproductive. We should be yelling at the
Speaker 1: people who have you know, designed our health care system,
Speaker 1: the people in power who are letting these workers down.
Speaker 1: The fact that we have eviscerated, you know, our local
Speaker 1: public health departments, which is something we talked about on
Speaker 1: my new show The g Word out now on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Like most thank you, I'm good for the segue. We
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned the show in like twenty minutes, so I
Speaker 1: have to bring it up. We you know, we do
Speaker 1: a whole episode on what the U s Fucked up
Speaker 1: about the pandemic. And the big silent thing that we
Speaker 1: sucked up that most people don't know is that we
Speaker 1: spent the last thirty years cutting the budgets of our
Speaker 1: local public health departments. It could be providing support to
Speaker 1: all those healthcare workers you know we've been. We've broken
Speaker 1: the backs of the healthcare unions, of the nurses unions
Speaker 1: that would you know, uh, protect those workers and advocate
Speaker 1: for better conditions for them. All those sorts of things
Speaker 1: that you know Congress won't pass a COVID relief bill.
Speaker 1: Those are the issues. But we as we have become
Speaker 1: so focused on individual behavior that even the folks who
Speaker 1: are reading ed Young's articles, right, we are often taking
Speaker 1: the wrong lesson and yelling at everybody else about their
Speaker 1: individual behavior rather than yelling at those in power about
Speaker 1: saying you need to fix the systemic issues that are
Speaker 1: causing Right. That's that I'll get off my podium. But
Speaker 1: that's something about know, and that's absolutely correct, right, Because
Speaker 1: the way we talk about workers in this like abstract
Speaker 1: is the story is like man shout out to the
Speaker 1: front line, workers, shout out to the heroes and things
Speaker 1: like that. But meanwhile, like the attitude is almost like
Speaker 1: they want these people to have like near like mythical
Speaker 1: levels of grit where they're like shout out to you,
Speaker 1: We're gonna fucking grind you down the dust, like thank
Speaker 1: shout out to their their strength without saying this whole
Speaker 1: this whole situation is fundamentally fucked up. Like you're while
Speaker 1: you're while you insist on like thanking the healthcare workers
Speaker 1: like hold the line, you're actually doing nothing that acknowledges
Speaker 1: the humanity of those people and the fact that they
Speaker 1: aren't invincible, but they have limits. That people are leaving
Speaker 1: the profession, that veteran healthcare workers are leaving in higher
Speaker 1: numbers too because of just pandemic burnout, and that's creating
Speaker 1: a generational knowledge gap that other people who work in
Speaker 1: healthcare like it. Actually it's wild, and you don't have
Speaker 1: these veterans here. They can't pass that information on, and
Speaker 1: when they're replaced, it's usually with inexperienced people, and things
Speaker 1: aren't gonna run so smoothly because we'd have these like
Speaker 1: just these the nuances of the continuity of people having
Speaker 1: their careers is completely gone out the window in service
Speaker 1: of like well whatever, man, these reckless policies that we
Speaker 1: do to please the Chamber of Commerce is just gonna
Speaker 1: fall onto the healthcare workers. But they're okay. Shout out
Speaker 1: to their grid, Shout out to the to all the
Speaker 1: firefighters out there. As I'm lighting matches and throwing them
Speaker 1: in a dry brush, you're like, so brave. It's like,
Speaker 1: well hold on, He's like, look, I got a brand
Speaker 1: to deal with, Zippo. I gotta throw. So the thing
Speaker 1: that is interesting though, I was actually gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: very naturally pivot to your show at them, like in
Speaker 1: the g word. Watching the first two episodes, the thing
Speaker 1: that and I told you after watching it, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I really like that you're humanizing what what the you know,
Speaker 1: what the government is because we think about the government
Speaker 1: in this abstract and we just go, but that's those
Speaker 1: are two fucking people, you know. It's the it's the
Speaker 1: you know, when so many people are employed by the
Speaker 1: federal government and in you know. The series is based
Speaker 1: on the Michael Lewis book The Fifth Risk Undoing of Democracy,
Speaker 1: and in it what I what I think is really
Speaker 1: important is that people begin to understand that it's there
Speaker 1: are actual human beings doing all of this work day
Speaker 1: to day for a lot of the ship that we
Speaker 1: take for granted, and we get so caught up in
Speaker 1: this binary of like of Republican or Democrats sometimes that
Speaker 1: we also forget that, like they're just people who are
Speaker 1: going out every day doing the simplest things like checking
Speaker 1: that the meat that we eat isn't completely fucked up
Speaker 1: or knowing, you know, how to alert people to inclement weather. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm sure for you being inspired to
Speaker 1: do the show, you saw that there's a need for
Speaker 1: I guess getting people sort of in touch with sort
Speaker 1: of how this relationship works. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean the
Speaker 1: whole theme of the show, the whole purpose of the
Speaker 1: show is that we spend you know, years, uh like
Speaker 1: two years every four years arguing about who's going to
Speaker 1: run the government. Almost none of us know anything about
Speaker 1: what the government actually does or the people that make
Speaker 1: it up. And so, like you say, healthcare workers, like
Speaker 1: the people who are inspecting our meat. We go to
Speaker 1: a Cargill meat processing plant and meet the folks who
Speaker 1: are there every single day checking your meat from the U.
Speaker 1: S d A. They're mandated to be there in the plant.
Speaker 1: They're standing there on the line and they're checking every
Speaker 1: single piece of meat that you eat to make sure
Speaker 1: that it's safe. And like what are their lives actually like,
Speaker 1: you know, and what is it like to do that work.
Speaker 1: You know. U s d A workers like got COVID
Speaker 1: at a massive rate because the you know, the meat
Speaker 1: inspection workers were considered essential workers because we have to
Speaker 1: make sure the food supply keeps going. But they were
Speaker 1: in a very cold environment where you know, they're indoors.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect environment for, uh, for COVID to spread.
Speaker 1: And they all got COVID. And we're talking you know,
Speaker 1: April and May of like way pre vaccine. They were
Speaker 1: like serious outbreaks. A lot of people died. But that
Speaker 1: is like a fundamental government service that was put into place,
Speaker 1: you know at the beginning of the last century or
Speaker 1: like a hundred years ago, because people were dying left
Speaker 1: and right of poison meat all across America. And you know,
Speaker 1: the government, upon shout out to Upton Sinclair, incredible dude,
Speaker 1: you know, Teddy Roosevelt passed the Federal Meat Inspection Act.
Speaker 1: It mandated the U. S d A had to have
Speaker 1: representatives in every single meat processing facility and they check
Speaker 1: all the meat. They have a big button they can
Speaker 1: hit that stops the line whenever they see something that's wrong.
Speaker 1: And that's like a fundamental service the government provides that,
Speaker 1: like most people don't know that it's doing and people
Speaker 1: certainly don't know that like your fellow Americans are doing
Speaker 1: that work and they are in there so that you
Speaker 1: will be safe. Yeah, Like I had no idea that
Speaker 1: people who like volunteer to help like keep our weather
Speaker 1: reports accurate. Yeah, you know how we're privatizing weather reporting
Speaker 1: up way too. I mean the show is really dope
Speaker 1: because you really dive into these things and in the open,
Speaker 1: like for people don't know this is a co production
Speaker 1: with Higher Ground, which is the Obama's production company. And
Speaker 1: at first, like I'm not gonna lie at him, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what does that mean for what you talk about?
Speaker 1: You know, because you have the idea of ex president
Speaker 1: who is making content, and you're like, how critical is
Speaker 1: this going to be? How sober of an analysis will
Speaker 1: this actually be about the government? And there's I mean,
Speaker 1: people just people should watch the opening that just watch
Speaker 1: the show because you kind of address that up top
Speaker 1: that there's really nothing off the table. And I was
Speaker 1: even like, what about drone strikes? Talking drone strikes and
Speaker 1: this Obama produced a production and we do it. We
Speaker 1: do a segment on drone strikes in episode four and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look I knew. So here's how the show
Speaker 1: came about. Obama's company had optioned this Michael Lewis book,
Speaker 1: The Fifth Risk. I had read the book the previous
Speaker 1: year and I was like, this book's incredible, Like I
Speaker 1: I want to do stories about this, you know. I was,
Speaker 1: I could do this book as a TV show. And
Speaker 1: then like six months later, I get a phone call
Speaker 1: from my manager, Hey, President Obama optioned this book and
Speaker 1: they're looking for a comedian to adapt it. You want
Speaker 1: to go pitch what you would do, and it's like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I went and I pitched the angle. I
Speaker 1: want to do a comedy investigation of all the things
Speaker 1: the government does, both good and bad. Introduced them to
Speaker 1: the people who make it work, talk about systemic problems,
Speaker 1: and they said, great, let's do it. Netflix said let's
Speaker 1: do it, and I you know, but I had to
Speaker 1: say to them, hey, this is going to be a conflict.
Speaker 1: If people are going to know what's going on, the
Speaker 1: audience is smart. And they're gonna be worried that, like, hey,
Speaker 1: is this could just possibly be impartial when a former
Speaker 1: president's name is you know, executive produced by Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: And so I need editorial independence on the show. This
Speaker 1: needs to be my show, not Barack Obama show. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be saying what he wants me to say.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be saying where my investigation takes me. And
Speaker 1: they said, yes, that's you have that right, you can
Speaker 1: do that. Fantastic, But now I need to communicate that
Speaker 1: to the audience. Um. And so we wrote a whole
Speaker 1: scene at the beginning where I made that very clear
Speaker 1: and specifically. I then looked for topics I would do
Speaker 1: that I knew people would think we would not be
Speaker 1: able to do, right. Um, that's that's my approach of
Speaker 1: doing television. When I was on True TV, I did
Speaker 1: episodes that were about gigantic advertisers that people would say, hey,
Speaker 1: if advertisers are paying your salary, no way that you
Speaker 1: can you touch this on the show. And we went
Speaker 1: for those super hard. We also did entire episodes where
Speaker 1: we took apart the networks relationship with advertisers from how
Speaker 1: that affects the show, and you know, went really deep
Speaker 1: on it, and that, to me is the best I
Speaker 1: can do. Well. I I take the approach, you know,
Speaker 1: the cliche of you know, your first night in prison,
Speaker 1: go punch the biggest guy in the nose. That's what
Speaker 1: I do is I say, what is the biggest fight
Speaker 1: that I can pick that will enable me to do
Speaker 1: ship that people think I won't be able to do,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to go to the mattresses for it.
Speaker 1: So you chose Obama, which is that's pretty dope? I
Speaker 1: like it, or like, who am I gonna punch the nose? Program?
Speaker 1: So yeah, we did a we did a segment on
Speaker 1: drone strikes and how you know they went up ten
Speaker 1: times in the Obama administration. That was when it really
Speaker 1: that program really went nuts. And it is an incontrovertible
Speaker 1: fact that it led to the deaths of many, many,
Speaker 1: many more civilians that would have been killed otherwise. And
Speaker 1: the reason is that drone strikes present a moral hazard
Speaker 1: that it allows you know, the those in power, going
Speaker 1: all the way up to the president, to order strikes
Speaker 1: that they would not order otherwise because there's no risk
Speaker 1: to an American pilot because they're unmanned. Right. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: send a bomber, You wouldn't send a fighter jet because
Speaker 1: you don't want you know, Bobby from Ohio to crash
Speaker 1: land in uh, you know, Syria. But you would send
Speaker 1: an unmanned drone because you don't care as much. And
Speaker 1: so as a result, we end up using those weapons
Speaker 1: a lot more often, a lot more people die, and
Speaker 1: specifically a lot of civilians die. And you know, I
Speaker 1: do did not work with Obama directly on the show,
Speaker 1: apart from his appearances, but the people who worked for him,
Speaker 1: who I worked with, were like, oh, are you sure
Speaker 1: you want to do that? And I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: I do want to do that, and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty tough, and I was like, bring it.
Speaker 1: You know what I like, If you guys got a problem,
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me. And you know, but the thing is,
Speaker 1: everything that we talked about on the show is a
Speaker 1: completely mainstream analysis. We are using, you know, independently reported
Speaker 1: facts and figures you know, from like fucking people who
Speaker 1: research military technology and research civilian deaths. And so they
Speaker 1: didn't honestly have anything that they could argue with and uh.
Speaker 1: You know, it was made apparent to me that Barack
Speaker 1: Obama disagreed with our segment. But they they knew they
Speaker 1: couldn't come to me and say, well, you can't do it,
Speaker 1: because then it would undermine the entire premise of the show.
Speaker 1: They were they were smart enough to know that, hey,
Speaker 1: we granted this guy editorial independence, so he has it.
Speaker 1: And as a result, we did the segment as scripted.
Speaker 1: And it's to their credit that they gave us space
Speaker 1: to do that because they knew that. You know, this show,
Speaker 1: in order to be credible, needs that space to survive.
Speaker 1: So for that reason, I hope that people when they
Speaker 1: watch it, see that. And by the way, we're very
Speaker 1: transparent about all of this on the show. I hope
Speaker 1: that gives people confidence in it. You know, that's and
Speaker 1: that's the best we can do making content under capitalism.
Speaker 1: The best you can do is fight as hard as
Speaker 1: you can and be transparent about your process with your
Speaker 1: audience and try to do it with integrity. And at
Speaker 1: the end, the audience gets to tell you whether or
Speaker 1: not you did a good You did a good job.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, that's how I
Speaker 1: sleep at night, is by knowing I fought as hard
Speaker 1: as I could. Right, Well, I mean it comes out
Speaker 1: in the show. So thank you man. Anybody who's interested,
Speaker 1: and if you've liked any of Adam's past work, there's
Speaker 1: there's no way you wouldn't enjoy this one. Oh Government,
Speaker 1: that's the G word. Yeah, I thought it was God.
Speaker 1: I was waiting to Obama like Obama blah blah blah
Speaker 1: and God and God. It's a little bit. Look, the
Speaker 1: title is the G word. We don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. No one likes to talk about the government.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it. That's the title exactly. See,
Speaker 1: MAT's a little that's a little slowly. It takes me
Speaker 1: a little. I like when there's more how many Spider
Speaker 1: Man are in the show? Garfield's there and he but
Speaker 1: he's playing me from all the dimension and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh are you okay? I'm sorry, I'm noting at you
Speaker 1: guys look at the camera and wink at me. I
Speaker 1: hope you wink at me. By the way, how funny
Speaker 1: was it? Just like Andrew Garfield is just you know
Speaker 1: what he's doing is he's doing a Ben Schwartz impression.
Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. He's he's doing Ben Schwartz. I
Speaker 1: just realized that is what it is, super Ben Swartz.
Speaker 1: Tony McGuire is trying to keep up, and he's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was on, if he took
Speaker 1: a zan X or something. He's just sort of blissed
Speaker 1: out and like, hey guys, yeah, look man, I've been
Speaker 1: gambling all night. Man. Yeah, he's like me and Leo
Speaker 1: have just been having sex with models for the last
Speaker 1: ten years. I don't know. Yeah, I'll do your spider
Speaker 1: in joke, I've been I've been inhaling vape smoke seven
Speaker 1: years straight, like it was a fucking scuba tank. All right.
Speaker 1: Speaking in the Presidents, gotta gotta touch in really quick
Speaker 1: with George Bush the two uh my man, who that
Speaker 1: brought hundreds of thousands of lives? Uh basically killed because
Speaker 1: the invasion killed hundreds of thousands of people. Man, he's
Speaker 1: a goat. Huh. I told death and destruction to an
Speaker 1: entire region. I mean, he knows a bad invasion when
Speaker 1: he sees one. And when he was speaking recently at
Speaker 1: his own foundation, he really just he just wanted to
Speaker 1: let people know he's he wasn't born yesterday. He sees
Speaker 1: what's going on, So let's just hear the president way
Speaker 1: in on what's happening around the world. In contrast, Russian
Speaker 1: elections are rigged. Political opponents are imprisoned or otherwise eliminated
Speaker 1: from participating in the electoral process. That's gonna happen in
Speaker 1: the UN. The result is an absence of checks and
Speaker 1: balances in Russia and the decision of one man to
Speaker 1: launch a holy, unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq, I
Speaker 1: mean of Ukraine. Alright, anyway, hundreds of thousands of fucking
Speaker 1: people died. But that's rough. That's the that's the biggest
Speaker 1: punch line of all all the dead. Iraqis like, that's
Speaker 1: a wild I don't know, I mean, like, what was
Speaker 1: that weird line? He grumbled after I think you said
Speaker 1: Iraq too anyway? Alright, anyway, Oh he said Iraq to
Speaker 1: Iraq too, yes, which that leads me to believe that
Speaker 1: he's actually very self aware that everyone the person he
Speaker 1: was describing as like, you know, the decision of one man,
Speaker 1: so you and our laterally, you know, invade a country. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like he knows that's hands him. You know,
Speaker 1: he's very aware, and it very well may haunt his dreams,
Speaker 1: which makes me feel better about the about That was
Speaker 1: what I got from this. My question to the panel. Now,
Speaker 1: is he haunted because I, in my mind I thought
Speaker 1: he he was buying aquifers up and ship like it
Speaker 1: was nobody's business, doing watercolors, like he didn't absolutely funk
Speaker 1: up the whole part of the earth. I think that
Speaker 1: he does, you know, watercolors and paintings and ship. I
Speaker 1: think it's because he is. I think he is haunted
Speaker 1: by it. Because if there's one thing about George W.
Speaker 1: Bush that I you know, in all fairness remember, rather
Speaker 1: than just like, yes, he's a war criminal. Yes he
Speaker 1: is legitimately the worst president of our lifetime. But he
Speaker 1: also was someone who didn't seem like necessarily associate path
Speaker 1: but someone who seemed like he just desperately wanted to
Speaker 1: please the people around him. Yeah, and I completely agree
Speaker 1: with that. The guy called uncle yes, yeah, people who
Speaker 1: grew up with who just he just wanted to impress them.
Speaker 1: You know, people literally ran all the gears of government,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think when he was in office,
Speaker 1: he was just like people around me are saying, we
Speaker 1: gotta go after wreck, let's do it. Colin Powells. Here,
Speaker 1: here's Dick. You know, they're all say, okay, guys, I
Speaker 1: mean if you were in that situation, maybe you would
Speaker 1: have said the same thing if you had been born
Speaker 1: into where he you know, if you put yourself through
Speaker 1: all that. Not to not to defray his responsibility at all,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, he's like you know, sometimes when I
Speaker 1: watched him, I'm like, he's just kind of a sweet dumbass.
Speaker 1: You know. That's that's like why people when they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's painting now, because you sort of see a little
Speaker 1: glimmer of a personality that he doesn't that power. Yeah. Yeah, However,
Speaker 1: it doesn't change the fact that he's like he is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is a war criminal and he is you know,
Speaker 1: like for all the bad that Trump has done, it's
Speaker 1: like the Trump never did a unilateral invasion of of
Speaker 1: a country where he was president. Not that he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have loved to do it if if there had been
Speaker 1: political will to do it. Um, he just happened to
Speaker 1: be you know, uh, the president at a time when
Speaker 1: people were so sick of going to war for no reason.
Speaker 1: I mean, the invasion of Russia's invasion of Ukraine is
Speaker 1: there is practically no difference to find between the United
Speaker 1: States invasion of Iraq apart from the fact that the
Speaker 1: United States was not trying to literally like annex the
Speaker 1: country and make it a state. But apart from that,
Speaker 1: like you know, I guess we just didn't finish the job,
Speaker 1: like we didn't make it a full colony. Was like,
Speaker 1: all right, now we're gonna leave, and you guys do
Speaker 1: whatever the right Everybody get their infrastructure contracts and pump
Speaker 1: their gas. Yeah exactly, But like, yes, it was a
Speaker 1: unilateral invasion of a country almost no international partners, right,
Speaker 1: a couple Tony Blair, bring them along. But apart from that,
Speaker 1: you know, and it didn't cause as much of an
Speaker 1: outcriest Russia because we're more powerful, or we were more
Speaker 1: powerful at the time than Russia is now. And that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the only white supremacy was working in favor of
Speaker 1: that too, because because the victims are looking European, that's
Speaker 1: suddenly they were like yeah, yeah, you know, it happened
Speaker 1: to white people like you. No proper person could come
Speaker 1: back like sixteen seconds and find some cool stuff too
Speaker 1: that you get outraged. But but but George W. Bush,
Speaker 1: I find his post presidency interesting because I agree with you.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's seems not traumatized, but just sort
Speaker 1: of like I can't, I can't do it, Like he
Speaker 1: doesn't like he seems like a like a broken man.
Speaker 1: He has this childlike demeanor where versus Okay, let me
Speaker 1: tell you about Obama a little bit, because I shot
Speaker 1: with Obama right and to shoot with him, it's like,
Speaker 1: you've got we had one hour in his schedule and
Speaker 1: he and it was in his office in d C.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, the middle floor of this
Speaker 1: anonymous office building, and you know, it's like we had
Speaker 1: our crew of like eight people, ten people, um who
Speaker 1: are who we were shooting with. And it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna his people are Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: wait here in the lobby and then at exactly lutenant one,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the elevator upstairs. When you go upstairs,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go down the hall. You're gonna go in
Speaker 1: the room and the left and you're gonna stay in there,
Speaker 1: make no noise because he's on the floor. Okay, then
Speaker 1: he is going to he is in the presidential office.
Speaker 1: He he is going to walk down the hallway and Adam,
Speaker 1: you will be standing in the hallway here. You will
Speaker 1: shake hands with him when it comes and then you
Speaker 1: will enter the set where you will shoot um. And
Speaker 1: it was like it was like his his movements are
Speaker 1: being scripted around. Like they were like, we don't want
Speaker 1: the crew. He's doing something else in the other room,
Speaker 1: and we don't want him to like the crew to
Speaker 1: like walk by him, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: very much like to the point where like one of
Speaker 1: our pas, this hilarious dude, Evens wonderful dude, one of
Speaker 1: our pas accidentally was in the hallway when President Obama
Speaker 1: walked in, and it was so impressed upon him that
Speaker 1: that should not happen. That Evens goes, oh ship runs away,
Speaker 1: like makes side contact with him, and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: ship and runs. But like so he's living his life
Speaker 1: as though he's still the president, you know, like he's
Speaker 1: got in addition to having Secret Service detail. It's just
Speaker 1: his movements are so scripted, right, George W. Bush is
Speaker 1: not living this way, you know, is just like chilling
Speaker 1: out on a porch somewhere, and like people are wandering
Speaker 1: in and out. I'm sure, Like, in fact, what do
Speaker 1: you mind talking to him when he comes into the hallway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just trying to get people off the street. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys know I had an institute I have. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make a library too. It's gonna be great. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's fine. See he's like, you know, Obama literally
Speaker 1: left office, and he's like, how can I continue using
Speaker 1: the power of what I'm I am doing to do
Speaker 1: the things I want to do in the world. You know,
Speaker 1: he's like, really, he's got his communication strategy, he's got
Speaker 1: his policy strategy. He's thinking about it in such a
Speaker 1: focused way. George W. Bush lapt office and he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm not doing anything. It'll do the library.
Speaker 1: But like, I'm gone, I'm taking a back. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, wait, you're not gonna direct anymore movies,
Speaker 1: Like I only did it because my dad's Michael Ovits,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it anymore. Like it's
Speaker 1: like that same like where nepotism is like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got me in the door, and I don't even really
Speaker 1: know if I wanted to do this. That's why you
Speaker 1: don't really see me engaging with it after the fact.
Speaker 1: Plus I'm haunted by all the dark shit I had
Speaker 1: to do and maybe that's my karma. I don't know. Hey, Allen,
Speaker 1: check out my watch? Is this cool? Yeah? What a life?
Speaker 1: And does Jenna Bush still called Dad? I don't know.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine in college pointed out to me,
Speaker 1: this is during the George W. Bush administration. But they
Speaker 1: were like, at one point George W. Bush was like
Speaker 1: part owner of the Texas Rangers, if you remember that.
Speaker 1: And my friend was like, you know, George W. Bush
Speaker 1: is an alternate universe where he just becomes the commissioner
Speaker 1: of baseball, and he would be such a good commissioner
Speaker 1: of baseball. He would get to make jokes, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, go to baseball games. Don't we all
Speaker 1: want to live in that universe? Like, oh, that'd be
Speaker 1: something he would be good at. We wouldn't be responsible.
Speaker 1: There's the thousands of people, right and Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: just a bitcoin broh, Like I love that universe. That
Speaker 1: would have been the fucking perfect one. Apin drink this
Speaker 1: lyurrip juice and yeah, some people pointed out, maybe it's
Speaker 1: neo Nazi semia semiotics who knows. I mean, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: be real. Let's be real. I'm not dumb. You know
Speaker 1: what time it is. I'm trying to mainstream white supremacy. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 1: to talk about the strength of video games, and we're back.
Speaker 1: Video games have been very important for me throughout my
Speaker 1: life outam. I know they're a huge part for you, Matt,
Speaker 1: are you were you a big child of the game.
Speaker 1: I played video games, um, when I I played PC
Speaker 1: games when I was in high school and college. Uh,
Speaker 1: and now I play uh PSPs four. There you go.
Speaker 1: So I love I love video games. I love them. There.
Speaker 1: I play everything, man, I play all the time. And
Speaker 1: I'm still working through Elden Ring, which is enormously long. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I follow video games more closely
Speaker 1: than I follow anything else. I listened to probably spent
Speaker 1: more time listening to podcast about video games than I
Speaker 1: do playing them. But you know, I've started collecting retro
Speaker 1: video games. I gotta fucking cr team monitor in here
Speaker 1: and I both Okay, I didn't know they made the
Speaker 1: critical race they monitor. Yeah, turn it on and it's
Speaker 1: like and it's like whiteness is false. White does not exist.
Speaker 1: It doesn't display white at all. Shades of grid. Um. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I definitely heard this growing up
Speaker 1: in the you know, being a growing being born in
Speaker 1: the eighties and in the early nineties of always from
Speaker 1: my mom and like grandparents were like, don't look at
Speaker 1: the TV. It's gonna rot your brain. You're playing video
Speaker 1: games all the time. I's gonna rot your brain. Why
Speaker 1: are you playing Super Ninten Why are you playing Mario Paint?
Speaker 1: I'm like, because this ship is dope, okay, and it
Speaker 1: came with a mouse that I plug into my Super
Speaker 1: Nintendo funk with me. Oh yeah, Mario taught me typing
Speaker 1: thank you? Do you guys have heard at school dud
Speaker 1: Mario teaches type? I had that on my Mac when
Speaker 1: I in like three. Yeah, okay, not Theendo release, so
Speaker 1: I kind of object to it. But yeah, okay, got
Speaker 1: you funk licensing deal. Um. But yeah, I think we've
Speaker 1: for a while. I think that was like sort of
Speaker 1: like the accepted thing that parents would be get really
Speaker 1: sort of nervous about it too much. Video games is
Speaker 1: gonna is actually bad for you. Well, guess what the
Speaker 1: Carolinska instituted in Sweden has conducted a pretty lengthy study
Speaker 1: on thousands of kids in the US to see how
Speaker 1: playing video games affected their intelligence. In this case, they're
Speaker 1: just their general cognitive abilities, not like did their vocabulary
Speaker 1: expand or whatever, just testing their general cognitive abilities. So
Speaker 1: they looked at nine thousand kids aged nine in ten
Speaker 1: and had them do a battery of tests just to
Speaker 1: sort of set a baseline. Then they followed up with
Speaker 1: about five thousand of these kids about two years later
Speaker 1: to run the tests again and to see if there
Speaker 1: were any differences that they could find. And here's something
Speaker 1: they found. Quote, on average, the children spent two and
Speaker 1: a half hours a day watching TV, half an hour
Speaker 1: on social media, and one hour playing video games. The
Speaker 1: results showed that those who played more games than the
Speaker 1: average increase their intelligence between the two measurements by approximately
Speaker 1: two point five i q points more than the average.
Speaker 1: No significant effect was observed positive or negative of TV
Speaker 1: watching or social media. So they said, okay, that, but
Speaker 1: maybe that tracks me because TV social media seems pretty passive. Now,
Speaker 1: not to say, who knows the toll that takes on
Speaker 1: someone's emotional well being? Because they do say. Look, we
Speaker 1: were we were not checking for the effects of things
Speaker 1: like on things like physical activity, sleep well being, or
Speaker 1: school performance, very narrowly on their cognitive ability. But the
Speaker 1: results seem to be in line or are in line
Speaker 1: with other studies that claim that screen time doesn't impair
Speaker 1: children's cognitive abilities, and in fact, gaming can help him
Speaker 1: boost things. I have a theory about this study, yes,
Speaker 1: but first of all, it comports with my own experience
Speaker 1: because one thing that I read years and years ago
Speaker 1: is that the may thing video games help you do
Speaker 1: is that they teach you how to navigate human design
Speaker 1: software systems. Right, So when you you when you play
Speaker 1: a video game, right, you used to playing a video game,
Speaker 1: You don't generally need to read an instruction manual. Right.
Speaker 1: You can turn the game on if you played them
Speaker 1: a lot, and you're like, Okay, what are the verbs
Speaker 1: that the game designer gave me? How can I use them?
Speaker 1: And then you know you're in a level and you're like,
Speaker 1: the game seems like it wants me to go this way? Right,
Speaker 1: Like you start to you start to understand, this is
Speaker 1: a whole playground that someone is created for my benefit.
Speaker 1: Here's the goal and so I can poke around and
Speaker 1: figure out how I'm supposed to achieve the goal. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: there's two paths. One of them probably leads to a
Speaker 1: treasure chest. The other one probably takes me towards the
Speaker 1: final boss. And that's the critical path you used to
Speaker 1: understand things like that, right, And so the theory that
Speaker 1: I read years ago was that that makes children less
Speaker 1: intimidated by technology generally, right, And I experienced that myself,
Speaker 1: like when I The reason I'm working in comedy today
Speaker 1: is because when I was in college, I taught myself photoshop,
Speaker 1: and I taught myself video edit ing on Final Cut Pro.
Speaker 1: And I was in a college sketch group and I
Speaker 1: became the post production guy, you know, who did all
Speaker 1: the video editing. And I just taught myself video editing
Speaker 1: by like, all right, let me pop open the final
Speaker 1: cut and like start rooting around those menus. What does
Speaker 1: this menu do? What does that? What does that control
Speaker 1: panel do? Like, I'm I'm not scared of it. I
Speaker 1: don't need someone to teach me how to do it.
Speaker 1: I can just sort of figure it out. I read
Speaker 1: the manual too, but you know, so it gives you
Speaker 1: that sort of fluency, and that's something that like comes
Speaker 1: in really handy in America nowadays, and especially I bet
Speaker 1: that helps you do better on an i Q test. Now,
Speaker 1: i Q tests are bullshit. I did a whole segment
Speaker 1: about them on Adam Ruins everything. They don't measure, you know,
Speaker 1: any sort of like that. You shouldn't take them as
Speaker 1: an objective measure of intelligence. They're they're measuring how well
Speaker 1: you do on that particular test, but they're not measuring
Speaker 1: like anything inherent about you. However, I have taken one recently,
Speaker 1: and it's a whole lot of like how quickly can
Speaker 1: you fit the you know, can you like what are
Speaker 1: they called tan grams or tesselations or something where you
Speaker 1: fit like the little polygon pieces is like into a
Speaker 1: square and stuff like that. How well can you remember
Speaker 1: numbers backwards? Things like that, and like if you've played
Speaker 1: a lot of video games, it's very video gaming stuff.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, okay, this is what it's trying to
Speaker 1: get me to do. This is the challenging part. I
Speaker 1: can if I focus on this, I should be able to,
Speaker 1: you know, do better on it. But I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: doing the i Q test for the same reason I
Speaker 1: like playing video games, and so I feel like this
Speaker 1: is I feel like it's not making you more intelligent,
Speaker 1: but I bet it does make you. If you play
Speaker 1: a lot of video games, I bet you do better
Speaker 1: on an i Q test. I think it's more like
Speaker 1: in line with playing an instrument. Right, that you grew
Speaker 1: up playing an instrument, You're you're gonna be. You're just
Speaker 1: developing different skills than if you weren't like music. There's
Speaker 1: timing your hand eye coordination to read music, to know
Speaker 1: music theory and like the relationships between notes and things
Speaker 1: like that help a lot. And I even just even subtly, right,
Speaker 1: I just noticed for me, like you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm also Japanese. So growing up in the in the US,
Speaker 1: the my or my Japanese education mostly came from my
Speaker 1: mom speaking to me and mostly only speaking to me
Speaker 1: in Japanese to build my ability to speak two languages.
Speaker 1: Reading was a little bit different because that when I
Speaker 1: turned the TV on, it's always English, and like I would,
Speaker 1: I would have to seek out Japanese material to begin reading.
Speaker 1: When game Boy came around, they were like and I
Speaker 1: was playing Japanese game Boy games. So many you know
Speaker 1: because back in those those days, like there was no
Speaker 1: spoken audio dialogue that played out of the TV. It
Speaker 1: was all text. You had to read and hit a
Speaker 1: to continue the fucking dialogue. And that very quickly got
Speaker 1: me to begin reading Japanese at a much quicker pace
Speaker 1: than I did if I was like using a book
Speaker 1: or whatever, because I was so inherently rather being like
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know what this says
Speaker 1: or whatever, I was like fuck it. Through the repetition
Speaker 1: of trying to read this over and over. It gave
Speaker 1: me those skills. So there's these little things that you
Speaker 1: do pick up, and I don't know if that's necessarily
Speaker 1: the secret to you know, having uh, you know, having
Speaker 1: super brain, but it's like, I like, we're all saying,
Speaker 1: like we can all connect these little dots to little
Speaker 1: things that we picked up or kill as we picked up.
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous of you for having that childhood experience
Speaker 1: with Japanese because I mean, obviously I grew up like
Speaker 1: so many American kids did with Japanese imported culture being
Speaker 1: you know, just like video games were like the entry
Speaker 1: point and then also you know, anime and everything else.
Speaker 1: But like God to have had the ability to play
Speaker 1: Japanese video games growing up, like oh, it also had
Speaker 1: to me an insufferable prick because I was like, y'all
Speaker 1: are late to Pokemon, y'all are late to Power Rangers,
Speaker 1: y'all are late to this, And I'm like, I'm onto
Speaker 1: the next ship. Y'all are late to n Tie. Y'all
Speaker 1: are late, y'all are late to Yeah, so many been
Speaker 1: watching women have sex with octopuses exactly. Also, y'all are
Speaker 1: late for old Enough too. That ship as old as fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: them kids doing them tours decades ago. Kids are from
Speaker 1: forty now, funk out of here. But yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is like an interesting thing that video games also
Speaker 1: were like mo like a motivating force for me because
Speaker 1: because my mom insisted or my parents are like, you
Speaker 1: gotta focus on and study. I'm like, I'm doing fine
Speaker 1: in school. If I can do fine in school, let
Speaker 1: me play video games. And that's all I want. Like
Speaker 1: my you know, my parents weren't would never buy me
Speaker 1: video games, like and they were only they only came
Speaker 1: around every report card if I did if I had
Speaker 1: straight a's, then they're like fuck it, fine, you could
Speaker 1: have one game. You could rent, you could go rent
Speaker 1: a game, and that sort of feedback loop was sort
Speaker 1: of my way of being like, oh, I'm getting this
Speaker 1: fucking game. The die Hard Trilogy just came out on PlayStation.
Speaker 1: Watched me mark my fucking tests, and so you know,
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a that's the game you
Speaker 1: wanted to play die Hard Trilogy. It was so bad,
Speaker 1: oh man. It was like a three part game that
Speaker 1: was like a multi genre game where the first level
Speaker 1: is like a shooter, and then I think the first
Speaker 1: two levels are like like shooter games, like sort of
Speaker 1: like Area fifty one style shooters, and then the die
Speaker 1: Hard with a Vengeance like node within the trilogy game
Speaker 1: was like a crazy taxi kind of thing where you
Speaker 1: were like driving around New York exactly and like like
Speaker 1: the worst Sam Jackson voice actor like actors, like you know,
Speaker 1: saying all kinds of wild ship. But I remember at
Speaker 1: the time I love die Hard with a Vengeance. I
Speaker 1: was like, sure, I need this game, need this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was terrible. That's how I know who Chester A.
Speaker 1: Arthur was and what President twenty first President of United
Speaker 1: States exactly learned that from die Hard movies. Let me
Speaker 1: let me offer a cautionary tale for any parents or
Speaker 1: future parents out there who are like, video games are bad.
Speaker 1: TV is bad. It's uh, it's all gonna rob my
Speaker 1: kids brain. My parents took out our TVs when I
Speaker 1: was in fifth grade because my brother started getting bad
Speaker 1: grades and on our my grades also, and my sister's
Speaker 1: grades were starting to suffer a little bit. We had
Speaker 1: no TV from like from fifth grade until eleventh grade
Speaker 1: until nine eleven. Nine eleven was the day we got
Speaker 1: our TVs back because nine eleven happened and my parents
Speaker 1: wanted to watch it. So sad day for America, good
Speaker 1: day for the lead family. But I, uh, in that
Speaker 1: intervening time, I didn't get to play video games. I
Speaker 1: didn't get to watch it. I had to go to
Speaker 1: other friends houses to like fucking watch you know, TV
Speaker 1: and ship. I came to everything late, and uh, I
Speaker 1: will say, what instead happened is I just discovered drugs
Speaker 1: and started Uh in like sixth grade, I started smoking weed. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I started doing hardest stuff. A little bit
Speaker 1: later after the TV was gone. TV was gone, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, because so what what do I
Speaker 1: what what's left to do? And I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: just hang out with you know, friends, and um, a
Speaker 1: lot of times those friends had weeds, so we started
Speaker 1: smoking it. And I'm just saying, I think that more
Speaker 1: harm was done to me by not having TV and
Speaker 1: video games in my life then when we actually you know,
Speaker 1: you know, then yeah. So I'm just saying, Uh, the
Speaker 1: TV made me, I think, you know, not as dumb
Speaker 1: as the drugs made me. So get that in mind, everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks also, look, you knew who the
Speaker 1: twenty one president was not because of school, exactly because
Speaker 1: of that actor who played that trucker in die Hard
Speaker 1: with a Vengeance. That's right, Arthur is cousin TV. Keep
Speaker 1: what about the little Gallant jug challenge that Simon had
Speaker 1: him do in Central Park with They'll filling up the
Speaker 1: water jugs? I was even I was playing along with them,
Speaker 1: being like, how do they get that? And I learned
Speaker 1: all sorts of ship. We also say the most popular
Speaker 1: games for kids right now, right, let's go through what
Speaker 1: they are. Minecraft incredibly wholesome, the biggest video game of
Speaker 1: all time. Minecraft incredibly wholesome. It's fucking legos. It's like
Speaker 1: the best thing ever. It is it and you play
Speaker 1: it with your friends, you build a world together. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Minecraft Fortnite another game about building full of secrets, right
Speaker 1: that Fortnite has so many secrets basically designed for you
Speaker 1: to talk about with your friends, and kids play it
Speaker 1: with each other. It's a social game, right. And then
Speaker 1: among Us was another huge game with kids intensely intensely social, right,
Speaker 1: all learning how to like figure out which one is
Speaker 1: the alien, which is something I think we all need
Speaker 1: to be able to do. Yeah, you need to find
Speaker 1: the liars in your life. That all of the liars
Speaker 1: and snakes, right exactly. So when I get fundraising text
Speaker 1: from Nancy Pelosia, I'm like, this is sucks. Sucks. And
Speaker 1: the way, how does fourteen dollars help you codify a rope?
Speaker 1: Please help me understand that? And even if you played
Speaker 1: video games, You're like, I don't understand. If I pay
Speaker 1: the fourteen dollars, do I get the codified rope power up?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You get a banana suit? Yeah, good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's some poster board and also don't forget and here's
Speaker 1: a mail in ballot. Don't forget us in November. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well Adam, thanks so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show Man. Pleasure speaking with you, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: you were finally able to stop by because you know,
Speaker 1: we see each other in real life constants. So this
Speaker 1: is a this is a great, great moment to bring
Speaker 1: it all together. It was wonderful to be here. The show.
Speaker 1: The news show is called The G Word. Can I
Speaker 1: just give a proper plug? Well, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: right now. I said, where do people find you? Follow you?
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Speaker 1: there it is, there it is. Wait, do you have
Speaker 1: any like works of Twitter that you liked recently? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, my own or other people's anyone? I want
Speaker 1: to talk about my own? Is that? Okay? I had
Speaker 1: the most viral thread I ever did on Twitter recently. Um,
Speaker 1: and it was about Rick Caruso running for mayor of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Gallery or what does he do in the grove?
Speaker 1: He gave us that and he's Mr Private Property over everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this guy is a real quick This guy's a
Speaker 1: bill an Air real estate developer. He's running for the
Speaker 1: mayor of Los Angeles. He's flooding the town with ads.
Speaker 1: You can't watch a Dodgers game or any other you
Speaker 1: can't watch Jeopardy without seeing like tons of these ads.
Speaker 1: He looks so kindly in the ads, but he is
Speaker 1: a fucking right wing Republican and he's going like, I'm
Speaker 1: ri Cruso, I love l A and I want to
Speaker 1: clean up l A. Now that sounds really good if
Speaker 1: you don't know much, but if you know the history
Speaker 1: of of right wing politics in California, you should be
Speaker 1: pretty scared of the phrase clean up l A. Uh.
Speaker 1: This guy's anti abortion. He's donated like hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars to make McConnell and ship. And his homelessness
Speaker 1: strategy is building like gigantic warehouses to like force all
Speaker 1: the homeless people into rather than building like permanent housing
Speaker 1: um and like working with people one by one. He
Speaker 1: wants to like he's like literally literally his homelessness plan
Speaker 1: is building. You can look at on his website, that's
Speaker 1: what it says. He wants to build a gigantic shelter
Speaker 1: out in palm Dale and like fucking forced people like
Speaker 1: a way out in the middle of the desert. Or
Speaker 1: rible dude. He spent thirty million dollars so far on ads,
Speaker 1: And what people don't realize is he could win the
Speaker 1: election in June because if he wins, because of l
Speaker 1: a's weird rules, if he wins over in the primary,
Speaker 1: he goes straight to the office that he skips the general.
Speaker 1: So it's really important people vote for anybody, but Caruso,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know you don't. I don't even do
Speaker 1: political ship like this that often, but this guy is
Speaker 1: what you do in l A. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: you and your your vote. I mean, if you're in
Speaker 1: if you're in l A politics, we know you're pretty
Speaker 1: vocal about l A policy. So yeah, I am. I am.
Speaker 1: And and that's, by the way, part of what we
Speaker 1: talked about on the G word. Local politics. You're can
Speaker 1: have so much more impact than on national politics. I
Speaker 1: just ignored Nancy Pelosi and I focus local. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I did a tweet threat about this guy, most viral
Speaker 1: tweet that I've ever done. And so that's my favorite
Speaker 1: tweet lately, is me trying to get the word out
Speaker 1: about this motherfucker who we gotta stop. Yeah, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: you know, like, don't forget. Like many of the land
Speaker 1: developers in the in the city of Los Angeles, they
Speaker 1: usually end up becoming the you know, the commissioner of
Speaker 1: the l A Police Commission. Yeah, this guy, this guy
Speaker 1: is the MEAs police department. But by the way, also,
Speaker 1: why do we have homelessness the housing crisis? Why do
Speaker 1: we have a housing crisis? Housing has gotten so expensive.
Speaker 1: This guy's a luxury real estate developer. Why would we
Speaker 1: elect the dude who caused the problem to solve the problem.
Speaker 1: He makes malls with choot your train. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: malls with choot your train. Turn l A to mall within.
Speaker 1: I want katsu Ya near me. Now look, I go
Speaker 1: to the Americana and I go there to see movies
Speaker 1: at the AMC. Shitty function, fucking projection. The movies look
Speaker 1: terrible at that movie theater. The food sucks. That's Rick
Speaker 1: Carusoe's fault, al right, So don't get If you want
Speaker 1: to send a bun, you can go give him money
Speaker 1: if you like, but don't, for the love of God,
Speaker 1: don't vote for him for mayor. Please don't know, Please don't.
Speaker 1: Matt What about you man? Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you and check you out? Well? You can follow
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Speaker 1: of laugh about it, and uh like, gleeful random acts
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Speaker 1: so yeah, huh uh. Let's see a tweet that I
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