Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty six,
Speaker 1: episode one of jo Daily production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: A lot of people were saying this one. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of buzz for two
Speaker 1: thirty five, two thirty six saying this is the one,
Speaker 1: this is this is it. I remember people were like, man,
Speaker 1: how are they going to best one we did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we answer that question. Anyways, this is a
Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into American's share consciousness.
Speaker 1: And it's Monday, May Night, which of course means is
Speaker 1: National Sleepover Day. Yeah, although the description is very gender
Speaker 1: though like and the like. When you read the description
Speaker 1: of National Sleepover Day, uh, it says it provides an
Speaker 1: opportunity once again for girls to confide in their friends
Speaker 1: in a way they can be inspiring, therapeutic and confidential.
Speaker 1: Fact like, we didn't do sleepovers to sleeping in our
Speaker 1: back skip ball shorts. We talked about the sleepovers we
Speaker 1: did before when we were talking about that Madison Cawthorne clip,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, exactly, the jackass, jackass jackasser. But anyways,
Speaker 1: shout out to sleepovers the best. That is where I
Speaker 1: got to see most of my favorite movies for the
Speaker 1: first time, like that's so true, die Hard Terminator, Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: age seven, Yeah, in the still of the night of
Speaker 1: a sleepover, that's when real real realizations are had. Exploration begins.
Speaker 1: Exposed to junk food. Got exposed to a friend who
Speaker 1: whose family had like just donuts for breakfast. I did
Speaker 1: not know donuts could be a just straight up the
Speaker 1: entirety the entire question to what ye answer to the
Speaker 1: question of like what are we going to do for
Speaker 1: I remember going to sleepover and then the parents are like, yo,
Speaker 1: y'all want that pizza from last night, and like yaya,
Speaker 1: And I'm like god, I'm like, no, wonder he's so
Speaker 1: had be a school His parents don't give a but yes,
Speaker 1: shot thought that and I get it too, even from
Speaker 1: their perspective, like I'm about the feed fucking five just
Speaker 1: sturdy little eleven year olds or eat that pizza from us?
Speaker 1: Back ahead anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.
Speaker 1: When we're reporting, we whisper stuff so you are not
Speaker 1: stressed out rich as a creasis. Our only thesis is
Speaker 1: it's not your fault and pig are like a whispered
Speaker 1: fire alarm and Piko are big plans. We know you've
Speaker 1: got none. That is courtesy if Rachel has the mic.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Rachel as the mic. Yeah yeah, coming
Speaker 1: on the scene with the thing about you know, we've
Speaker 1: been We've been speculating about where MPR is very strange
Speaker 1: tone comes from. We think it's a mixture of like opportunity,
Speaker 1: seizing the opportunity of being the first news network that is, like,
Speaker 1: you know, people seem to really like this SMR stuff
Speaker 1: and they also feel horrible about the state of the world. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. Miles Graykay smoke that weir smoke that
Speaker 1: we smoke that weird, weird. I just I just came
Speaker 1: up with that you are the same boy you used
Speaker 1: to be. It turns out, isn't that what that says?
Speaker 1: After that, I'm the same boy I used to be.
Speaker 1: That's on me. Yeah, oh, the same boy that used
Speaker 1: to be? Okay, yeah, yeah, good, Okay, that that all
Speaker 1: that all works now? I like that there we shout
Speaker 1: out was that Ray was the artist I think Steve
Speaker 1: Winwood I thought, am I am? I know there's okay
Speaker 1: that much. That's the original, got it. But there's like
Speaker 1: a hardcore like massive and dance anthem that has that
Speaker 1: just on a form the floor just anyway, that's how
Speaker 1: that goes. I'm just learning that it's Valerie, call on,
Speaker 1: Call on me, Valerie. Damn, come on, Steve. We just
Speaker 1: want to hear you say, come and see. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. Anyways, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined by
Speaker 1: a very funny and talented writer and podcaster who's the
Speaker 1: producer and writer of a show called This Can't Be
Speaker 1: Right Miles and Jack got mad Boosts. He's also the
Speaker 1: co host with a big Shot Bob Or of the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals File God, a lesser you know, podcast collaborator
Speaker 1: than those other people. Also one of the best follows
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Please welcome back to the show. Jabari y'alli David. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it is me aka shook nice. I tried to get
Speaker 1: a new one but nobody, but nobody bid general let
Speaker 1: and it matches your your voice now too, like you
Speaker 1: have the Actually I've never heard sugar night talk. I
Speaker 1: don't think remember. Oh yeah, but it is. It is
Speaker 1: his voice as deep as the parties as it is
Speaker 1: pretty deep. I actually have a sugar nice story, a
Speaker 1: sugar nice story for you if you wanted doing what happened?
Speaker 1: Man want more to say, No, let's just say one
Speaker 1: time I was I had some legal troubles. I was
Speaker 1: at the Vanna's Courthouse. I was, you know, walking along
Speaker 1: the corridor. You know, anybody is familiar with the Vanna's
Speaker 1: Courthouse courthouse, the backside corridor, and I looked to my
Speaker 1: left and all of a sudden, Sugar Knight is right
Speaker 1: next to me right now. Everybody jokingly calls and affectionately
Speaker 1: calls me, you know, sugar nice, but I can or
Speaker 1: sugar but I can tell you that is a large man, yeah,
Speaker 1: powering over me. But he looks at me and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna edit this, but he looks at me. He goes,
Speaker 1: what's up, little knit? And I said, I am twenty five,
Speaker 1: but thank you. That takes confidence to correct like, oh no, no, internally,
Speaker 1: I said, And I held the door for him. Did
Speaker 1: you sprint ahead to hold the door for him right
Speaker 1: this way? Sir? Oh man, Yeah, I mean I guess
Speaker 1: you do defer to somebody who's gigantic like that, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't and that in that period in my mid twenties,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, yeah, that should night, and
Speaker 1: I'll agree to whatever you're saying to me right now.
Speaker 1: Come to death row. Okay, I will. I'm not a rapper,
Speaker 1: They'll come to death row. Okay, I'm there, speaking of
Speaker 1: you being one of the best follows on Twitter. On Friday,
Speaker 1: you retweeted I guess it was the anniversary of the
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson sound bite meme sports sports media meme where
Speaker 1: he says practice and everyone's like, he doesn't care. Now
Speaker 1: we're we're sitting here, I'm supposed to be a franchise
Speaker 1: player and we're talking about practice, and you tweeted out
Speaker 1: the context that get that gets cut out of that,
Speaker 1: not just like you know, people don't tell the story
Speaker 1: of what was what was going on, They cut out
Speaker 1: like what he says immediately after that, and and well,
Speaker 1: what always bothered me about it? Actually I shouldn't say always,
Speaker 1: because I was guilty of falling write in line with
Speaker 1: the just making fun of it, making you laughing at
Speaker 1: the moment. But a couple of years down the road,
Speaker 1: I saw the full, you know, the full like conversation
Speaker 1: or or press conference, and he's basically saying guys, we
Speaker 1: just lost my best friend just died yesterday and we're
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about practice. But that's not you know,
Speaker 1: that wasn't how it was framed, and that certainly wasn't
Speaker 1: how it was you know, how it was reported. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know, his the conversation and the narrative surrounding him,
Speaker 1: you know, was very negative as a result of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it took it. It took a turn for him, you know,
Speaker 1: like and it's it's wild how much Yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: I it was like, yeah, man, we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: I'm you know, we we saw the remixes and ship,
Speaker 1: like I love it, like this is Alan is doing whatever.
Speaker 1: But then yeah, it wasn't until maybe three years ago
Speaker 1: I was like, oh his best friend died, then oh ship,
Speaker 1: And then you realize how much shit. I mean, this
Speaker 1: happened so often, like in the media, like it's just
Speaker 1: so easy to just lop off of sound bite and
Speaker 1: then we just take that into reality with no empathy
Speaker 1: or anything like wow, and that clip too, you see
Speaker 1: him like he's he's crying on the bench. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but for context, also, that was at any time where
Speaker 1: unfortunately we didn't honor or respect. When men showed vulnerability
Speaker 1: or actual promotion and things of that nature, you know,
Speaker 1: we would point the finger or make light of him.
Speaker 1: The same era where Shaq himself was saying I was depressed,
Speaker 1: but I did not have the vocabulary or the will
Speaker 1: to use words like that because it was just not
Speaker 1: the time for things like that, which is wild too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: unfortunately moved on from that, and now when a player
Speaker 1: cries after having a game winning shot put in their
Speaker 1: face like a Joe lm beat, everyone just respects his
Speaker 1: emotions and nobody replays that over and over again. Everybody's
Speaker 1: just happy for him when good things happened to who him?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, this plane is fine in a different direction,
Speaker 1: but I do like that. Is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things about the show we make together is that there
Speaker 1: is a lot in sports because people have one team
Speaker 1: and there are ninety something percent of the other of
Speaker 1: the NBA teams are the team you're not rooting for,
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like people just waiting there,
Speaker 1: like I hate that person because they've made me feel
Speaker 1: bad once and they're ready to jump on it. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of toxicity and sports fandom. But the
Speaker 1: NBA podcast that we do. Miles and Jack got Matt Boostise.
Speaker 1: We just we're trying to be for the joy, all right,
Speaker 1: this will not be an all NBA podcast. The this
Speaker 1: episode of Daily Say, guys, we I just wanted to
Speaker 1: shout out, you know, what a great job you do
Speaker 1: on Twitter and how good our our podcast is together.
Speaker 1: But moving on from that, we're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. We're gonna talk about what rights could
Speaker 1: be going down next with the row leak, the road
Speaker 1: decision come down in slow motion towards us. And then
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the you know, as details have
Speaker 1: emerged of the Chappelle attack and people who were there
Speaker 1: that night, and then you know, the media echoes. I
Speaker 1: just wanna want to talk about where we're at because
Speaker 1: it seems to be fitting in with a pattern where inequality,
Speaker 1: the problems that we talked about a lot on this
Speaker 1: show fuel some horrifying act of violence and then it
Speaker 1: gets metabolized by the media as like culture war anger.
Speaker 1: So I just want to talk about that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first a bar, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Well, honestly, most
Speaker 1: of what I've been researching lately with his footage and
Speaker 1: background for the Finals file. But truthfully, the very last
Speaker 1: thing that I searched was this morning. It was Steven
Speaker 1: Seagal running because he was pointed out on another podcast.
Speaker 1: And even though I've seen all of his eighties and
Speaker 1: nineties films, I you know, I'm pro sleep over by
Speaker 1: the way as well, even though I saw most of them,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it never stood out to me. But
Speaker 1: needless to say, um, you know, it absolutely did not
Speaker 1: disappoint and I encourage you guys to do it. And
Speaker 1: since he is a pretty reprehensible individual allegedly, I don't
Speaker 1: feel guilty about laughing at it. It basically looks like
Speaker 1: he runs with someone else's arms attached to his body.
Speaker 1: That's great, Yeah, that's exactly what it is. He's such
Speaker 1: a sleepover all star. He only wears pajamas now, like
Speaker 1: this dude just walks around and the most comfortable of clothing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he run like uh he like he runs
Speaker 1: like out the like brand new out the box terminator. Yes,
Speaker 1: or like a like a baby turn in my mind.
Speaker 1: That that makes me think of the T one thousand
Speaker 1: who runs in a very like yeah with his arms
Speaker 1: where seals arms, like don't really know what that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like he's new, he's new, He's like he
Speaker 1: hasn't fully been like no, I'm on my two one.
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that old nineties movie Body Parts
Speaker 1: where I think it was like Jeff Fay he was
Speaker 1: in it, and they like get into a car crash
Speaker 1: and then they put his body back together with other
Speaker 1: with with like the body parts of a murderer and
Speaker 1: they're not they're they're not. I remember poster for this
Speaker 1: film that was a bunch of limbs with cables coming
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, that's basically what he looks like running. Okay,
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. Yes, that's the premise of so
Speaker 1: many movies where it's like I gotta I have the
Speaker 1: the eyes in my head now of a murderer and
Speaker 1: I have never never all that successful. But that's a
Speaker 1: challenge to anyone. Was this like in an era where
Speaker 1: like transplant surgeries were like becoming more like survivabal and
Speaker 1: like useful, So then someone you know, some Coked Out
Speaker 1: writer and it's like, dude, what if like you got
Speaker 1: fucking murderer arm? Well, it comes from us, from the
Speaker 1: original Coked Out writer, Mary Shelley. Oh sure, with the
Speaker 1: frank and the original Franken style. For some reason, we're
Speaker 1: going to go back to the Bible out writer. God,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people stole the idea from
Speaker 1: that well known documentary Face off right exactly? How ship?
Speaker 1: What am I talking about? It hasn't been done well,
Speaker 1: but it's been done perfectly and I need But that's
Speaker 1: more like that's less of like does this foreign appendage
Speaker 1: or organ affect who you are? Yeah, it never takes
Speaker 1: over their body. In fact, the it was it's just
Speaker 1: them in a great disguise, but they are themselves other
Speaker 1: than some parts where Nick Cage as John Travolta is
Speaker 1: like looking in the mirror's like so like his his
Speaker 1: reflection is is messing him up. But idle hands there's
Speaker 1: that one with solid one of them, but that was
Speaker 1: more of like a possessed hand that he had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of kind of talking about is like the
Speaker 1: possessed hand, the possessed eyes, the possessed There was a
Speaker 1: VHS box. That made me think Steve Martin might have
Speaker 1: started in one, but maybe the man with two brains.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't actually know what that was about.
Speaker 1: But it's been a while. It's been a while. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? All right? Let's keep
Speaker 1: the tradition going because I usually make trash. Who takes
Speaker 1: on here most fast food chicken? Uh? And before this
Speaker 1: comes across as gatekeeper, I look, I I know, Miles,
Speaker 1: this might, this might, this might, this might you know,
Speaker 1: poke you a little bit, But I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: come across as a gatekeeper, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: yuck anybody's young. But basically, if you think that raising
Speaker 1: Kane is quality because you take you can slime unseasoned
Speaker 1: chicken with mac big Max sauce, I'm here for you
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. All I'm saying is those of us
Speaker 1: that grew up with, you know, homemade fried chicken and
Speaker 1: you know from southern family. Well maybe he didn't come
Speaker 1: from the South. My family became from the South. Those
Speaker 1: of us that you know that a real feel fried
Speaker 1: chicken and can actually make it, we kind of scoff at.
Speaker 1: I feel for all of you. What did you think
Speaker 1: of do you see polot pattins? Uh? Chicken? I did
Speaker 1: see it, and I you know, okay, so this is
Speaker 1: the thing. Oh wow, she sees us the oil, she
Speaker 1: puts the chicken in the in the flour, puts it
Speaker 1: in the oil and then pours the season and in
Speaker 1: the oil and then doesn't cook the chicken to it's
Speaker 1: you know, totality, it's about two thirds done. And then
Speaker 1: she even did did you see her follow up you
Speaker 1: know video after everybody was absolutely destroying her and I
Speaker 1: and I felt I actually felt for because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to add to this,
Speaker 1: but I kind of have to. But she basically said, hey,
Speaker 1: it's my mom's recipe. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: So I thought you'd be like, yeah, my best friend,
Speaker 1: this guy you know, absolutely trust mom on that one.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was criminal to watch. And the black
Speaker 1: TikTok reactions to that video were gave might give gave
Speaker 1: me life beyond the years I could imagine. But it
Speaker 1: was the kind of thing Jack, you saw, like there
Speaker 1: was no seasoning to to begin seasoning something when it's
Speaker 1: already in the frying oil. I have never heard or
Speaker 1: seen of that as a cooking technique, like I know
Speaker 1: you could maybe put some vegetables and stuff in your
Speaker 1: seasoning in the pan, but like proteins to season proteins
Speaker 1: in the what anyway? I do? But yes, I would
Speaker 1: say this. I like raising canes because it's the best
Speaker 1: of the fast food, but in no way I'm like
Speaker 1: this is peak chicken finger, because yeah, that's there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot better out there. I think it also bothers
Speaker 1: me that they don't have anything else, Like you go
Speaker 1: there and just like nope, we're this, this is so good.
Speaker 1: We don't need anything else, you know, like, well why
Speaker 1: reinvented was like no, no, throw something else in the
Speaker 1: mixt weeks. But but we don't really have really any
Speaker 1: in southern California, or at least not like in l
Speaker 1: A l A. There's one in Burbank that's been teasing
Speaker 1: to be opened. I know Jackies has been keeping his
Speaker 1: eye on that place and counting down the days whether
Speaker 1: or not we're gonna have it. But yeah, I've never
Speaker 1: had I've never had raising right now, you haven't had
Speaker 1: raisin canes? Yeah, I mean it's I think the thing
Speaker 1: for people is like oh, you know, comeback sauce. They
Speaker 1: got their ownst their cane sauce and really like, look,
Speaker 1: we're just mixing catchup mustard or ketchup mayonnaise and some
Speaker 1: season salt and a few other things and you're good.
Speaker 1: It's all big back sauce. Yeah, And do they use
Speaker 1: like breast meat. I feel that that's my main complaint
Speaker 1: with fast food chicken is too often they're just like
Speaker 1: taking a big whack of a breast meat and you know,
Speaker 1: it's not there's so many good parts of the chicken.
Speaker 1: Is it takes absolutely that and and again your unseasoned,
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, kid, but look, I challenge
Speaker 1: anybody that likes to eat it without that salt. And see, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a whole genre of like cultural things that have
Speaker 1: come to us from drunk people at college because it
Speaker 1: wasn't wasn't raising canes like originally like a college thing,
Speaker 1: like a college town phenomenon, and then it like spread
Speaker 1: out from there. Like I just discovered that frisbees come
Speaker 1: to us from like drunk board students throwing pie tins around,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just like that is it's not
Speaker 1: always the highest of culture that that we get out
Speaker 1: of drunk board college students, although kind of also how
Speaker 1: basketball got him bended so right, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're college students, but it was basically like board kids,
Speaker 1: and he was like, all right, I'm gonna make up
Speaker 1: this game to keep you from jumping on each other
Speaker 1: and humping each other's heads or whatever. In general, though,
Speaker 1: like I've known in l A. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's like this around the country, but I feel like
Speaker 1: we have hit peak fried or Hot Chicken, Like we're
Speaker 1: the fucking cup is fully running over. We're like I
Speaker 1: feel like when I walk through the new business like, hey,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah Hot Chicken, I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 1: What does do y'all think this is? You're late already?
Speaker 1: And now everyone it's like when the cupcake Corps happened
Speaker 1: in l A. And they were like, there's just this
Speaker 1: proliferation of cupcake places and then it had to contract.
Speaker 1: And now I feel like every everybody in their family
Speaker 1: is starting a hot Chicken place or chicken finger place,
Speaker 1: and only a handful of them doing well. James Franco's
Speaker 1: Hot Chicken is my new favorite restaurant. Now I just
Speaker 1: made that up. I just trying to think of the
Speaker 1: most random, random person, most infuriating person one. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Even the tradition going,
Speaker 1: We're going to do a makeshift and as uh streaming
Speaker 1: corner Love Life too. Have you guys seen that Love
Speaker 1: Life too? Know HB video game, HBO Max, it's Real
Speaker 1: Max and starring William Harper Jackson. For anybody doesn't know
Speaker 1: who he is, it's it's cheaty, cheety from the good place.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about this, but honestly
Speaker 1: it's basically just relatable to any of us that dated
Speaker 1: in our thirties. It it hit on, it hit on
Speaker 1: every level. So underrated because you know get for example,
Speaker 1: neither of you guys have even heard of it. And
Speaker 1: every time I bring it up to somebody to go
Speaker 1: really love life, I'm like, yes, really, trust me, It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's the name is also little bit too close to
Speaker 1: thirty five reality shows for me to like to stay
Speaker 1: right same as do I know about this reality? And
Speaker 1: I got one more for you southside of you guys,
Speaker 1: you guys seen that all yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: well yeah then I don't have to explain it. I
Speaker 1: don't even have to go into it. But basically, if
Speaker 1: you don't take yourself too seriously and you can laugh
Speaker 1: at stuff and you not easily offended, it's after perfect.
Speaker 1: It's like such a good working class perspective comedy and
Speaker 1: I just love that, Like it's the problems are so
Speaker 1: real and it's not like you know, uh, you can
Speaker 1: just tell it's written from like like a grounded place
Speaker 1: rather than people are like, I don't know, what would
Speaker 1: this world be like. The writers have absolutely worked retail
Speaker 1: before any of us that have. Yeah, basically every single
Speaker 1: you know scenario that comes up, it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen that, right, I can see that taking place.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Okay, And we have already received a legal
Speaker 1: notification from super producer on the hosny Is lawyers because
Speaker 1: of the use of the name of her trade market segment,
Speaker 1: so we'll just have to steer clear of referencing it. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that is a great recommendation of a online content piece. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what the other thing though, to your point about
Speaker 1: like love life and how we don't know about it, Honestly,
Speaker 1: the because of the proliferation of streaming services so much.
Speaker 1: We are beyond at the pace at which things are
Speaker 1: coming out. I'm I've given up, like I'm meeting I'm
Speaker 1: like I've reached that place where like you get older
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I can't keep up with like
Speaker 1: the New the Young Ship anymore. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: the streaming shows. I'm like, yo, well i'll die here.
Speaker 1: I'll die in two thousand fifteen. That's fine. Netflix has
Speaker 1: already canceled another eight shows and and and released another
Speaker 1: fifteam during this conversation. So yeah, I feel like because
Speaker 1: it was it as recent as the beginning of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: when it felt like, man, there's not enough on we
Speaker 1: have Tiger King, and then like there's this Jordan documentary
Speaker 1: coming in like two months that we're already talking about
Speaker 1: does not even out yet. Like that feels like a
Speaker 1: different universe. To keep in mind, at that time, it
Speaker 1: was so bad they moved up the dock like it
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to come out until I think like July,
Speaker 1: and they had to. They had to push it up
Speaker 1: and they weren't even they weren't even done with it.
Speaker 1: They were completing it at you like as it was
Speaker 1: being you know, being there. So the fact that we
Speaker 1: were all collectively watching Tiger King and they had to
Speaker 1: you know, rust the Jordan's Duck probably tells you is recently,
Speaker 1: it's two years ago. Yeah, it was not this extreme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like they are now making content for that moment,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately it's like no, we're there's movies now and
Speaker 1: basketball and other things and our lives have started again.
Speaker 1: But they yeah, now now I almost feel like attacked
Speaker 1: by the amount of like interesting streaming that's coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the like in May, right, just thinking of
Speaker 1: the things that you can watch on you know, probably
Speaker 1: streaming or theaters. Right, You've got the Top Gun movie
Speaker 1: coming out, Bob's Burger's film coming out, Obi Wan Kenobi
Speaker 1: series coming to Disney, plus, Stranger Things season four, Chippendale
Speaker 1: Rescue Rangers coming to Disney Plus. That's a like John
Speaker 1: mulaney Lonely Island joint, right, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: I think we talked about the trailer on trends or
Speaker 1: just like a bunch of tropes about animation be going
Speaker 1: off of Jabari's confused faces. Why you were including that
Speaker 1: with like all these these but that's the thing that
Speaker 1: if I heard as an elder millennium like what chipping deal, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that at least I'm like that's being made.
Speaker 1: Like that's how my reaction to these things are. There's
Speaker 1: that there's an Angeline series on Peacock coming out. There's
Speaker 1: like Hacks season two. There's like Kids in the Hall,
Speaker 1: like entire catalog. I think it's coming to Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange just came out, the new Star Trek show.
Speaker 1: There's like the new Staircase series about the Staircase. Like,
Speaker 1: there's just so many things in May alone that used
Speaker 1: to feel like at least three months worth of ship
Speaker 1: easily usually. And for the record, that my reaction to
Speaker 1: Jim and Dale's just because I was a Chippendale's Rescue
Speaker 1: or Rangers fan. Montana Jack was my Rescue Rangers when
Speaker 1: this danger I'd say, half mournings that have the mornings
Speaker 1: I wake up. That is the song that's going through
Speaker 1: my head, like no, no explanation, Yeah, yeah, alright, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break, we'll come back and talk news.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and there are a handful of conversations
Speaker 1: I think everybody's having or you know, re research projects.
Speaker 1: People are are doing, like just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what the funk is going on with our country and
Speaker 1: what what the future could look like, because it almost
Speaker 1: like the future almost feels more unimaginable than it ever
Speaker 1: has at this point. And so what one question that
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have is like what
Speaker 1: rights could be next based on based on this opinion
Speaker 1: that was written Because yeah, like we were talking about
Speaker 1: last week, the logic that Justice Alito is essentially laying
Speaker 1: out is like, well, the Constitution doesn't mention women or
Speaker 1: the word abortion and so, which is terrifying when you
Speaker 1: consider how many of our current rights and laws are
Speaker 1: not in the Constitution verbatim. And many have said, you know,
Speaker 1: same sex marriage could be next. And I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how quickly they're gonna go for like a full scale,
Speaker 1: like just like rapid repeal of like all of these laws,
Speaker 1: because I know, at the same time, you can tell
Speaker 1: the Republicans are struggling with this or how they just
Speaker 1: cannot use the word abortion out loud right now. They're
Speaker 1: like the league or something. Uh So, now you gotta
Speaker 1: just kind of look at where a lot of this
Speaker 1: energy is swirling, and you can tell that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of homophobia in the tank with the GOP right now,
Speaker 1: and just recently last week there was a letter from
Speaker 1: just a few distinguished ship bag senators from Utah, Kansas,
Speaker 1: North Dakota, and Indiana. Uh, they are coming at the
Speaker 1: TV ratings people like you know when you put a
Speaker 1: TV show on this says PG or like y seven
Speaker 1: or whatever. M A coming at those people, meaning on them,
Speaker 1: saying hey, we need to have a meeting and we
Speaker 1: need to talk because I don't know if you've heard
Speaker 1: about all this lgbt Q stuff out there, but we
Speaker 1: were asking is maybe you need to create some kind
Speaker 1: of new rating or category that alerts homophobes to the
Speaker 1: presence of lgbt Q characters or themes. And this letter,
Speaker 1: I mean, it reveals a few things. It reveals how
Speaker 1: they what they you know, how they even view anyone
Speaker 1: who's not ciss het human, as well as just kind
Speaker 1: of that they're still like they're still simmering beef with
Speaker 1: Disney because they use Disney to kick off the outrage
Speaker 1: they said. Quote. Recently, a video emerged showing a prominent
Speaker 1: executive at children at a children's entertainment giant saying she
Speaker 1: supports having quote many many, many l g B, t
Speaker 1: q I A plus characters in our stories to the
Speaker 1: detriment of children. Gender dysphoria has become sensationalized in the
Speaker 1: popular media and television with radical activists and entertainment companies.
Speaker 1: The radical and sexual sensation not only harms children, but
Speaker 1: also destabilizes and damages parental rights. They talk about how
Speaker 1: they're going against that don't say gay bill, about the
Speaker 1: you know band's classroom instruction on sexual orientation our gender identity,
Speaker 1: and they go on to say, sexual orientation and gender
Speaker 1: identity instruction often entails a discussion concerning an individual's pattern
Speaker 1: of emotional, romantic and sexual attraction. Yeah, that's that just
Speaker 1: sounds like you're learning some facts. But let's not again
Speaker 1: forget that. Conservatives as it relates to anything dealing with
Speaker 1: gay rights, is that their mentality is like, well, if
Speaker 1: you even here that two men could kiss, that could
Speaker 1: instantly create a homosexual by the mere mention, by the
Speaker 1: mere viewing of it. That is how malleable our brains are.
Speaker 1: Don't don't think for a second. People who are People
Speaker 1: know innately who they are deep down on some level.
Speaker 1: It's this, It's the they that they heard about this
Speaker 1: that is going to present an issue. They go on
Speaker 1: to say a former creator of Disney children's content recently
Speaker 1: published an article acknowledging that every children's TV writer no
Speaker 1: to be careful about quote modeling behavior end quote, as
Speaker 1: children will often imitate what is projected through the TV scripts,
Speaker 1: especially preschoolers. Again, yeah, sure, what they mean is don't
Speaker 1: show a kid, don't maybe have your characters sticking forks
Speaker 1: into light sockets. Yeah, that part, but I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm not over here being like, yo, mom, can I
Speaker 1: get some paint so I can go paint a tunnel
Speaker 1: view on this wall and hopefully get some cars to
Speaker 1: drive through it. And the modeling behavior is, yeah, we
Speaker 1: we would like to create a world where people are
Speaker 1: feel free to be themselves, and so we don't want
Speaker 1: to model a world where like a certain type of
Speaker 1: person doesn't exist, or that type of person is like
Speaker 1: treated hostily as they have been in our culture like
Speaker 1: up until you know, a couple of years ago. Basically
Speaker 1: literally right, The thing of it is is like when
Speaker 1: we all know this, none of this is about modeling.
Speaker 1: It's all about supremacy. It's all about control, like like
Speaker 1: like I almost feel like I almost feel sad now
Speaker 1: when I see people like almost ironically sharing the you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be the America is gonna be the handmaids
Speaker 1: till like when we share those types of like memes
Speaker 1: and whatnot, because like that's the reality we are. We
Speaker 1: are all headed to like you footloose your style like
Speaker 1: like that, that that is the lifestyle of the that
Speaker 1: these legislators seem to you'll seem to want, and and
Speaker 1: and and I'll be honest with you, it's it's actually terrifying.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have children, but you know, you those
Speaker 1: of us that have kids, that's for me, that's a
Speaker 1: terrifying thought that that not only are we you know,
Speaker 1: are we rolling it back, but it's being forcibly rolled
Speaker 1: back and and and and to your kind of a
Speaker 1: point that you brought up Jack earlier, Jack or I
Speaker 1: think it was a miles. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: absolutely coming, Like they are absolutely going to come for
Speaker 1: all of this. Yeah, this is low hanging fruit. Right.
Speaker 1: So while you may not go and say we need
Speaker 1: to we need to repeal the same sex marriage, you say, well,
Speaker 1: let's turn up the heat in other places. Maybe we
Speaker 1: can disappear LGBTQ people from anything a child may see.
Speaker 1: And that's and they have a lot of energy to
Speaker 1: back that. This letter does go on to even use
Speaker 1: just like completely just inaccurate ship they say when they're
Speaker 1: again when they're talking about how the children's content, especially
Speaker 1: why seven things, and how dangerous that could be to
Speaker 1: have a to anybody who is not a straight person
Speaker 1: on there, uh, they said, this dialogue often involves the
Speaker 1: promotion of irreversible experimental treatments that involve surgical and otherwise
Speaker 1: invasive cosmetic procedures that are detrimental and life altering and
Speaker 1: do not evidence medical necessity. What fucking show is that
Speaker 1: that kids are watching? What are you? And this is
Speaker 1: again because everything is about blowing things out of completely
Speaker 1: out of proportion to get the energy, the panic, the frenzy,
Speaker 1: the fear mongk just at at the highest level. Well
Speaker 1: so you can direct that at will, you know, and
Speaker 1: honestly using the using the mindset of oh well it
Speaker 1: wasn't in the constitution. It's like, yeah, you know, first
Speaker 1: of all, let's give the founding fathers a break. They
Speaker 1: were more focused on being able to like own people
Speaker 1: in American imperialism and you know, things of that nature.
Speaker 1: They like women, What are you talking about now, I
Speaker 1: think one of the people who wrote the Constitution like
Speaker 1: kept their wife and like changed in a basement. Like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty sure that's accurate. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they kept many people changed somewhere, so wife or not.
Speaker 1: I can see the I can see the barbarism of
Speaker 1: it all. And then so you know, we don't. This
Speaker 1: is all just coming down to the fact that they
Speaker 1: have to they want to institutionalize even further. That's like
Speaker 1: a born homophobia, and so as they want to disappear
Speaker 1: these people in the name of protecting children. I think
Speaker 1: um Evan Hurst I want Cat actually pointed something very
Speaker 1: interesting out about like how these parents of like hyper
Speaker 1: conservative Christian parents are is that if anyone's grooming anyone,
Speaker 1: these parents are grooming their kids to be sis head,
Speaker 1: self loader, big hits, who do not actually who are
Speaker 1: not going to honor who they are. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the momentum, that's the environment that these these parents are creating.
Speaker 1: One environment is one that says, do not feel ashamed
Speaker 1: of who you are as a person. You can come
Speaker 1: as you are and you are worthy. The other version
Speaker 1: is where you hear that, don't look at that, don't
Speaker 1: see that. It might tell you this, and if that happens,
Speaker 1: then that means this. That is a that is a
Speaker 1: world filled with a lot of negative energy for a child.
Speaker 1: I can I'm pretty sure comparatively that's how that looks
Speaker 1: from my perspective. They're grooming current children to be like
Speaker 1: our grand our grandparents. And no disrespect to anybody's grandparents,
Speaker 1: but that time in life or anybody, so they had
Speaker 1: some things to work on. You know, my grandparents included
Speaker 1: you know, we all did. But and again, and I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, to use the word groom or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's whatever, But I think just interesting to look at
Speaker 1: what the energy is being into and if you're talking
Speaker 1: about you want to take a child to a certain
Speaker 1: conclusion about what the world is or what their life
Speaker 1: could be. And to add to that too, the conservatives
Speaker 1: are still going on with this like furry panic thing
Speaker 1: like we've I mean, we didn't really talk about it
Speaker 1: much because it was just so ridiculous that you had
Speaker 1: conservatives being like they're putting litter boxes in bathrooms because
Speaker 1: kids identify as animals now or their furries, or that
Speaker 1: they had to in some states of saying that they
Speaker 1: had to lower the lunch tables to accommodate the children
Speaker 1: who identified as animals, and so were they are continuing
Speaker 1: this whole fucking trend as well, because I think it's
Speaker 1: clearly doing something. It's getting the attention, even though most
Speaker 1: people don't understand it. But I think because we live
Speaker 1: in such a charged environment where like identity can now
Speaker 1: just being anything and it's not about a human being,
Speaker 1: they're just fully going into like, Okay, let's further to
Speaker 1: like other and dehumanize people who are different in any
Speaker 1: possible away. Oh man, the next election, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: fucking I feel like so many of these things are
Speaker 1: like reaching their their final form or just like yeah,
Speaker 1: and now it's all it's all about protecting the children. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I I just we've yet to hear a specific
Speaker 1: strategy that the Democrats are going to employ, Like what
Speaker 1: what that? That's where my feeling of inevitability comes from
Speaker 1: is that the Democratic Party doesn't have, like the Republicans
Speaker 1: have a clear agenda that they are driving at strategizing
Speaker 1: around and have been for the past four years, and
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party doesn't seem willing to do anything like yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I think the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: that when it comes to abortion, that was never really
Speaker 1: something that was truly part of the platform. It was
Speaker 1: it was you start to see what the things they
Speaker 1: get done. They can help take a a regulations, they
Speaker 1: can make things easier for the financial industry, they can
Speaker 1: do things like that. But as it relates to like
Speaker 1: codifying row, never really seemed to be much interest there.
Speaker 1: And it was when when they were sending us emails
Speaker 1: asking for donations. Oh yeah, I mean I got one
Speaker 1: this morning from Nancy Pelosi because she texts all of
Speaker 1: God's children with a checking account and says, it's speaker Pelosi.
Speaker 1: Hear me in some weird aspont you texted like some
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you even get that fun to
Speaker 1: show up in the text? And she was wearing that's
Speaker 1: how exactly she knew. She's like, hey, brother, turn that
Speaker 1: Kendrick down real quick. I got some I want to
Speaker 1: hip you to something. Uh and goes on to say,
Speaker 1: I'll be blunt. How we act in this harrowing moment
Speaker 1: will decide the future of our nation. We can either
Speaker 1: either let right wing forces pull us backwards, or we
Speaker 1: can rise up together and fight to protect women rights
Speaker 1: once and for all. The only way to protect reproductive
Speaker 1: rights is to build on our democratic majorities in the
Speaker 1: House and Senate and defeat every last anti choice Republican
Speaker 1: who made this happen. First of all, you are caping
Speaker 1: for Henry Henry quay are in Texas, who's a Democrat
Speaker 1: who is anti abortion right. So now square that ship
Speaker 1: because you're protecting people in the party that don't even
Speaker 1: believe this. Look, I'm a political idiot. One of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I was drawn to this show to begin
Speaker 1: with because I was like, look, these guys say, they're
Speaker 1: they're they're teaching me some stuff. I I really appreciate
Speaker 1: the way you guys phrase it. I appreciate you already
Speaker 1: got the gig bro no no, but I'm saying like
Speaker 1: this was literally like I'm talking about your years years back.
Speaker 1: That was the appeal. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I need someone to talk to me like I am
Speaker 1: a five year old and you guys, you guys do
Speaker 1: a great job of explaining things. And one thing I'll
Speaker 1: say is this to respond to something that you asked earlier, Jack,
Speaker 1: you heard that, you know that You earlier was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, what's the Democrats? You know plan? You know,
Speaker 1: what's their strategy? I mean from a political idiot, what
Speaker 1: it seems like it always has been is, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: not them, Hey we're better than them. Hey just just
Speaker 1: vote blue. Like that's all I've heard, at least over
Speaker 1: the last four years. And I'm not trying to dissuade anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to you know, like talk anybody you know,
Speaker 1: you know into your voting Republican or doing anything else.
Speaker 1: That's what it feels about. It just feels like they're
Speaker 1: they're good enough with simply a little bit better than
Speaker 1: the other side. Yeah, because that's where the funding is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's worked, wonders. Yeah. And like the text of the
Speaker 1: from Nancy Pelosi of now more than ever, this is it,
Speaker 1: Like this is the moment, Like you sent me this
Speaker 1: text six years ago and like probably three months ago,
Speaker 1: Like I feel I feel like they're constantly evoking this
Speaker 1: ship and then like now, Yeah, it's just it doesn't
Speaker 1: work because the messages are so fucked up and absurd
Speaker 1: when you read them, given what is happening right now,
Speaker 1: right people are fucking there are people right now who
Speaker 1: are wondering, how the funk am I gonna do right
Speaker 1: by my own body right now? How do I do that?
Speaker 1: And this text goes on to say we're looking at
Speaker 1: this an existence. Well, I mean, we face existence ris constantly,
Speaker 1: but this was very specific and it's very very important.
Speaker 1: You go on to tweet in this same or in
Speaker 1: the tweet in the same text asking for money quote
Speaker 1: quote I need a once in a lifetime response ten
Speaker 1: thousand gifts in the next twelve hours to put us
Speaker 1: in a position to win this fight and protect our
Speaker 1: fundamental rights. If we don't meet our goal, Republicans think
Speaker 1: they can get away with anything. So you've rhetorically tied
Speaker 1: the idea that if we do not give you our money,
Speaker 1: then our rights are fucking gone. That's how you're motivating people.
Speaker 1: I'll I ask is for one Democrat to come out
Speaker 1: and describe, like, what, what is what has prevented you
Speaker 1: from protecting women's rights? Why? Why has that? So it's
Speaker 1: not enough to be like Mansion, Why so why is
Speaker 1: Mansion like beholden to the forces that he's bholden too?
Speaker 1: What are you doing like what what can you do? What?
Speaker 1: What are what is that stake in your mind? What
Speaker 1: is it stake beyond like you know you are next election?
Speaker 1: What is it stake? What? What is the thing that
Speaker 1: motivates you? Is it like the people who are going
Speaker 1: to suffer from this because you don't really seem to
Speaker 1: like reach out to them or talk about them. It's
Speaker 1: all about, you know, reaching out and asking for a
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime a bunch of money. This is
Speaker 1: the thing. Like Gavin Newsom, he I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't know, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know how sincere he is. But he was really like,
Speaker 1: where the hell is my party? Right? He's like, where
Speaker 1: why aren't we standing up more firmly, more resolutely? But
Speaker 1: he's also saying this at a rally, And it's much
Speaker 1: easier to be like, as a governor, be like what
Speaker 1: are they doing over there? Because the governors love to
Speaker 1: do that. That helps them seem like a little bit
Speaker 1: disconnected from like the larger you know, national party politics
Speaker 1: of it all. But that was the most forceful thing
Speaker 1: I read in the headline, was Gavin Newsom being like, dude,
Speaker 1: where's my party? Mhm? But I don't know's there's gonna
Speaker 1: be like a bunch of Democratic strategists who are reaching
Speaker 1: out to AOC being like this is your moment, like
Speaker 1: come in run for the presidency next, like like the
Speaker 1: things are too too bad for to like for Biden
Speaker 1: to win again. I think all that's true. The problem
Speaker 1: is the people who are reaching out are Democratic strategists,
Speaker 1: like you know it would it would need to. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you unfucked the whole DMC of
Speaker 1: it all. We'll see, I mean, because right now they're
Speaker 1: still they're sending text messages like I need gifts. You
Speaker 1: need gifts, motherfucker people asking for right gifts is exactly
Speaker 1: like our need My god, that's so horrible, which just
Speaker 1: happened to you. I need presents from you now more
Speaker 1: than ever actually, and then making you feel guilty if
Speaker 1: you if you aren't able to were willing to do it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what was wild When I go
Speaker 1: through my text, like at the end of last week,
Speaker 1: right right before all this ship dropped, got another text,
Speaker 1: and the energy on that one was like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: ship's bad. Yeah, Republicans are might be leading by a
Speaker 1: point and you're like, here, yeah, that's to motivate people,
Speaker 1: because imagine this, right, It's like when when we watch
Speaker 1: funked up ads and we're like, how the fund did
Speaker 1: that company let them make that there was nobody in
Speaker 1: the room was because everybody in the room was looking
Speaker 1: at it the same way. Yeah, they didn't have any
Speaker 1: consideration how that looks outside the room because they don't
Speaker 1: even have the wherewith all to know that there isn't
Speaker 1: outside the room, or if there is, they see it
Speaker 1: as outside the room is beholden to what we set
Speaker 1: in this room. So I don't give a funk what's
Speaker 1: happening outside the room. I'm almost like morbidly curious to
Speaker 1: like go listen to one of those like pod save
Speaker 1: podcasts just to hear, like what what they're what they're
Speaker 1: saying at this I mean, you know they're talking about
Speaker 1: like attorneys general and like those moves and things that
Speaker 1: are happening in that sense. But you're not gonna get like,
Speaker 1: I don't I can't imagine you're gonna hear the frustrations
Speaker 1: of the about what the party boil over um, And
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. And again I think that's
Speaker 1: what's really interesting is you can only keep doing stuff
Speaker 1: like this till these things without anyone, without any prompting,
Speaker 1: that these sort of takes and texts and things look
Speaker 1: so hollow, and you start you start realizing, like what
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like we're talking about people's right, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting hit up for money. It's like the first
Speaker 1: the first version of that is like when you graduate college,
Speaker 1: and then like the first fall after graduating, like hey man,
Speaker 1: what's up man? Thinking about donating? And you're like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? That's like most people's reactions right when they
Speaker 1: graduate that first mid piece of mail or whatever, high school, whatever,
Speaker 1: you like, what the funk are you talking about? And
Speaker 1: that's how these texts are starting to sound too. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, but I think I think
Speaker 1: you kind of hit it on the head. And not
Speaker 1: to belabor it, I'll make you quick. If you don't like,
Speaker 1: if you don't see people as people, if you don't
Speaker 1: ever interact with actual, real people, you're not going to care,
Speaker 1: and the and and and that's how we end up
Speaker 1: in this situation like let's be real, when's it last time?
Speaker 1: And I don't want to pick on you know, speak
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick on your Nancy Pelosi, but
Speaker 1: once the last time you think she's had a real
Speaker 1: conversation with, you know, someone like you were I, she
Speaker 1: would say, I met with constituents last week that my
Speaker 1: press team vetted before I was interacting with them, so
Speaker 1: they could say three very specific sentences to me about
Speaker 1: a topic that I of my choosing, and it was
Speaker 1: wonderful and they were actually disadvantaged. Uh that's like quote
Speaker 1: unquote colored. But yes, yeah, well you know she had
Speaker 1: her she had her food bulan for that meeting. And
Speaker 1: everybody's inside of broken system. So I mean it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but persons, right, it's got men non uterus havevers telling
Speaker 1: Beauterus havevers how to run their ship, and you got
Speaker 1: you got people who wouldn't know what the fuck anything costs,
Speaker 1: or how stretched and strapped people are for cash or
Speaker 1: some sense of stability. People who are living then the
Speaker 1: total antithesis of suffering, indulgence over the top everything they're
Speaker 1: setting all the policy that determines how those people live,
Speaker 1: and it's just there's the it's that's not representative in
Speaker 1: any way. And I think that's you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think many people are probably for the first time
Speaker 1: having a reckoning of like being like, what the funk
Speaker 1: I thought those are like rights and that they matter
Speaker 1: enough that you would knuckle the funk up to protect them.
Speaker 1: And then they go away, and now you're hearing crickets
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden being like, hey, get out vote, and
Speaker 1: Chancy Pelosi asking for gifts. Yeah. I mean, we are
Speaker 1: recording this a little bit ahead of Monday, so maybe
Speaker 1: you know, over the weekend the Democrats are going to
Speaker 1: just drop a very detailed roadmap for how they're going
Speaker 1: to do everything. And I would love to see would
Speaker 1: love for them to be outdated by the time y'all
Speaker 1: hear it. But I mean, and that's just one mess
Speaker 1: y'all got to clean up, right. I don't think many
Speaker 1: people have forgot. You don't think people who thought who
Speaker 1: were talking about immigration have forgotten what's going on with
Speaker 1: that or what people who are interested in voting rights
Speaker 1: or criminal justice like re tangible reforms and not a
Speaker 1: little winks and nods that ship, but like really changing ship, um,
Speaker 1: because if you're not fit for it, that's just starting
Speaker 1: to I'm you know, I'm not I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: the data that's out there. That's all party. We really
Speaker 1: fucking a third party at this point. I mean, and
Speaker 1: there are plenty, right, you know, there are plenty other
Speaker 1: political part but like, where is the organization coming from? Etcetera.
Speaker 1: And I don't and I'm sure they will do everything
Speaker 1: to kill a third party, and it's the second it happens,
Speaker 1: because that is the that is the biggest threat to them.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, if they split off and get these
Speaker 1: other votes, than like we're gonna have to start doing
Speaker 1: our own jerrymandering to cut out the independence shipped from voting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has always felt like that was the game. Though,
Speaker 1: like like they recognized they're not really competing with one another.
Speaker 1: They're just keeping each other in business. Absolutely, Look one says,
Speaker 1: we're I mean, like as much as the Democrats are,
Speaker 1: like we think people should have access to abortion. Okay,
Speaker 1: now prove it, right, that's all. That's really it. That's
Speaker 1: really it, and that that may that may help you
Speaker 1: get a little bump in the polls, but like if you,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the most in a cool version of
Speaker 1: this is that like the d n C wanted this
Speaker 1: to get out to try and like get the voters
Speaker 1: to realize what's at stake if they don't vote for us. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: had that fun ready to go, and she was just waiting.
Speaker 1: She needed somebody to create the story for her to
Speaker 1: use it on, texting me like you some tumbler refugee,
Speaker 1: which your stylized texts ship. The fun was that you
Speaker 1: want fucking gifts. The gifts I just can't get over.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm sure plenty of people have you
Speaker 1: ever given or your registered Democrat or whatever. You're probably
Speaker 1: getting these absurd texts and I'm sure all you can
Speaker 1: do is look at that and be like this, it
Speaker 1: looks you sound so stupid. M All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a break and we'll come back. And we're back. And
Speaker 1: the Chappelle Netflix as a joke stand up show that
Speaker 1: happened last week that made a lot of news because
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle was attacked during the show. So like more
Speaker 1: details have come out. Chappelle's done a another comedy show
Speaker 1: where he talked about his experience, and I don't know
Speaker 1: just overall that, there's also a lot of headlines about
Speaker 1: the person was first being charged with a felony and
Speaker 1: now it's being turned into a misdemeanor, and there's also
Speaker 1: headlines of people, you know, famous people being like that
Speaker 1: we need to protect them like this at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end, and like kind of kind of making
Speaker 1: it seem like it's a large scale war on comedians,
Speaker 1: which usually means they think it's like a war on
Speaker 1: free speech and their ability to offend. So first I
Speaker 1: just want to the description of the show, like even
Speaker 1: before the attack happened was pretty interesting. There there was
Speaker 1: a Vanity Fair reporter there and so it opens up
Speaker 1: with British comedian Jimmy Carr his special his Dark Material
Speaker 1: is like you know, always on on Netflix, and instead
Speaker 1: of doing the normal conventions, the stand up read a
Speaker 1: series of offensive, of offensive and quote cancellable jokes, mostly
Speaker 1: pertaining to the trans community. Their jokes, he said repeatedly
Speaker 1: and between punch lines to the roar of the crowd. Um,
Speaker 1: it just it sounds like the crowd was like really
Speaker 1: like there for the toxicity. Oh, I mean yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the gauntlet was laid thrown down, you know when
Speaker 1: when Dave Chappelle started going in that direction. And now,
Speaker 1: because if you're if you're going there, and you are
Speaker 1: if if you don't you find trains phobia, homophobia like
Speaker 1: just despicable. You're not gonna be like, yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to check that out for my enjoyment. You
Speaker 1: might go because you're curious, But I feel like the
Speaker 1: people who are there, who like bought their tickets, they're full,
Speaker 1: like they're on board, or at least not offended enough
Speaker 1: to the drew you were there like, I can't, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not interested in this at all. The reporter
Speaker 1: says that like John Stewart went up and like other
Speaker 1: comedic news people I've heard of, namely myself, there there
Speaker 1: were times last week after the news where I wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling very funny, so he had like some more off
Speaker 1: the cuff, not fully formed material about how fucked we
Speaker 1: all are, and you know, the pro Chapelle audience was
Speaker 1: was not responsive. But then you know, the person says
Speaker 1: that Stewart got a huge laugh when he used the
Speaker 1: F word in a joke about other rights that the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court might take away. Chris Rock came out and
Speaker 1: talked about how America was almost over and joked about
Speaker 1: America's selective outrage, which I think is is an important detail.
Speaker 1: I want to come back to And then Chappelle came
Speaker 1: on and the reporter says quickly dug into his new material,
Speaker 1: which perhaps unsurprisingly is as polarizing, if not more so,
Speaker 1: than that of his last Netflix special, The Closer. Backed
Speaker 1: by a bright red background, Chappelle said that he truly
Speaker 1: believed The Closer was a masterpiece and that he hoped
Speaker 1: the trans community watched till the end. Shortly before he
Speaker 1: was attacked, Chappelle also mentioned that he had to hire
Speaker 1: more security after the response to The Closer, and then
Speaker 1: after he was attacked, he joked again in quotes that
Speaker 1: it was a transman who attacked him. It was not.
Speaker 1: It was a unhoused man who grew up in the
Speaker 1: foster care system, struggles with mental health issues, was trying
Speaker 1: to draw attention to inequality in an extremely misguided way.
Speaker 1: Chappelle took to the comedy store stage like a couple
Speaker 1: of nights later and mentioned that he convinced the lap
Speaker 1: D to let him speak with the man who attacked him,
Speaker 1: and the man told Chappelle the attack was meant to
Speaker 1: draw attention to gentrification and his great a mother was
Speaker 1: recently ousted from her Brooklyn neighborhood for the outlet. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a mental health crisis, economic inequality crisis in
Speaker 1: the country that is causing a lot of violence and
Speaker 1: definitely scary, untenable circumstances, And all of those problems are
Speaker 1: caused by economic inequality, a police force that is merciless,
Speaker 1: and a society that empowers them and like feels good
Speaker 1: about caging humans and better about caging humans than like
Speaker 1: taking care of people who don't have anything looking out
Speaker 1: for them. Exactly zero percent of it is caused by
Speaker 1: cancel culture. But I feel like the version that you
Speaker 1: got of the attack is Chappelle attacked, says like had
Speaker 1: previously said that he needed extra security to protect him
Speaker 1: against like critics of his anti transmit here real and
Speaker 1: then joked that it was a transpan after the fact,
Speaker 1: and then everybody's like coming out and being like America's
Speaker 1: too sensitive after that, And it just feels like we
Speaker 1: have a lot of anger in this country for good reasons,
Speaker 1: but they're not the reasons that get mentioned anywhere in
Speaker 1: the country for the most part, and it is now
Speaker 1: being channeled and like digested into this like really toxic
Speaker 1: mixture of like punching down and like being mad at
Speaker 1: people who don't have rights. And it just feels again
Speaker 1: like we're headed at scary direction. Honestly, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a huge comedy fan, and one of the things that
Speaker 1: makes me, I mean this is selfishly speaking, but I'm
Speaker 1: sad that a guy like, you know, a person like
Speaker 1: George Carlin is not around, you know. And and you
Speaker 1: just made me think of it when you said punching down,
Speaker 1: because there's a there's a famous quota fe Is I
Speaker 1: think he was on with Larry King and he says,
Speaker 1: you know, the great thing about comedy is that, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, we speak out, you know, you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of like the voice of the voice list uh,
Speaker 1: you know, speaking out against the oppression or or whatever
Speaker 1: the case, maybe whatever the issue of the time may be.
Speaker 1: But he specifically in that in that interview said, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't punch down, you know, you like, the communities
Speaker 1: that are subjugated, the communities that are you know, most oppressed,
Speaker 1: are the ones that we definitely are usually in favor of.
Speaker 1: And it just feels like now that's completely gone or
Speaker 1: and and maybe and maybe that's hyperbolic, but I at
Speaker 1: least don't see that you know that mindset you know,
Speaker 1: or that you know that being the case with most
Speaker 1: of our comedians. Now, look, Day Chappelle, at one point
Speaker 1: in my life, I absolutely said he was one of
Speaker 1: the funniest people ever. And I'm not gonna take anything
Speaker 1: away from you know, any of his past comedy. But
Speaker 1: right now Dave has Dave has absolutely turned into like
Speaker 1: our uncle on Facebook and and and and I and
Speaker 1: for the life of me, I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1: It's not like he needs it to be famous. It's
Speaker 1: not like he needs it, you know, he needs it
Speaker 1: to make money or anything. He would be popular without
Speaker 1: doing this, So I think, yeah, it's just like he
Speaker 1: found a formula though, and especially and I think with
Speaker 1: the way he feels now, like it's he's like a
Speaker 1: like a Pokemon who's like leveling up. He's like I
Speaker 1: got through that ship now meaning stronger, watch me continue
Speaker 1: down this path. And it's yeah, I I there's there's
Speaker 1: just like this issue like generally right in the country
Speaker 1: where culturally we don't speak about problems in the US,
Speaker 1: like it's it's all about just kind of just putting
Speaker 1: shipped down, and we have all these problems that we
Speaker 1: are not confronting head on, and they're just rotting this
Speaker 1: place from the inside out. And it's just like watching
Speaker 1: this still continue, continue, continue, it's very it's yeah, it's alarming,
Speaker 1: but also like you know, Jimmy Carr, like in between,
Speaker 1: like their jokes like, Okay, do some black jokes in
Speaker 1: the hood, and let me let me see, let me see,
Speaker 1: let me see if you're if you're philosophically, let me
Speaker 1: see some other jokes. Let's do some jokes about Jewish people.
Speaker 1: But the look, it's one of those where itst like
Speaker 1: that train is never late. Those and those comedians already
Speaker 1: out there. And I think what's also interesting though, too,
Speaker 1: is how many other comedians are like, man, has anyone
Speaker 1: actually been to like a smaller comedy show. I think
Speaker 1: Roy Wood Jr. Was saying, like, I've seen so many
Speaker 1: dudes fight mid show. This isn't anything new. This is
Speaker 1: just happening to more famous comedians. That's the difference right now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it it does seem like they're all of
Speaker 1: this energy. We're not able to like you're saying, Jack,
Speaker 1: just say we have a mental health crisis, we have
Speaker 1: an inequality crisis. This guy didn't show up because he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, some stalker who was being like
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, like when had you done to me? Clearly
Speaker 1: distraught about many other things, but a lot of it,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, had to do with his grandmother being displaced, right,
Speaker 1: and think I mean, I'm not saying what he's doing
Speaker 1: is right, but imagine not. And again I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you need to attack somebody to make your point, But
Speaker 1: what have you ever done to help somebody you deeply
Speaker 1: cared about? You probably do a lot. And when you
Speaker 1: have people increasingly like more people with that level of
Speaker 1: desperation and a lack of resources and support, that's definitely
Speaker 1: not a good formula for any place. And I think
Speaker 1: it's when, yeah, we just don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: the thing though, to really articulate that we have a
Speaker 1: lot of societal failings happening and we're just it's easier
Speaker 1: to just be like, man, the fucking social justice wars tripping, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they don't want to hear. They don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that things need to be better. That's really all
Speaker 1: it is. It's well to me, like the idea I
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I don't know what Chris Rock said was about,
Speaker 1: but the fact that it was about selective outrage, well,
Speaker 1: he's like headlining with somebody who is at ray aged
Speaker 1: at the trans community, like for criticizing his comedy. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it was after the Row opinion had been
Speaker 1: published on Politico, Like that's you know, people's rights are
Speaker 1: being taken away and I don't know, it's just wild,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I I don't know what specifically he
Speaker 1: was he was talking about. And then Chappelle ended his
Speaker 1: second like his comedy Store set, by saying I hate
Speaker 1: this city, which I think is yeah, like it's that
Speaker 1: that feels appropriate to me, that you're just like I
Speaker 1: hate this place, but not going any deeper than that,
Speaker 1: Like what what is what is causing the condition that
Speaker 1: makes you hate hate this city? That's a little too
Speaker 1: much introspection. The people that yell the loudest about cancel
Speaker 1: culture and call the most people snowflakes are the biggest snowflakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's the lane that these folks are in there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh and obviously and the jokes just get worse.
Speaker 1: And I think to your point to this in bold
Speaker 1: into people because the punching down George Carlin fantastic comedian.
Speaker 1: And it's difficult to be a good comedian because the
Speaker 1: easy way to get laughs is to just make fun
Speaker 1: of people, is to just tease people, is to just
Speaker 1: demean people. That's the easiest way. Is The first way
Speaker 1: I learned that I was funny was because I was
Speaker 1: a little bit smarter, and I would use that to
Speaker 1: say really fucking wild ship that normally the other kids
Speaker 1: weren't saying. And people are like, whoa yo, he really
Speaker 1: said that about something Dad's dick, you know whatever. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm on this ship. I'm here. Motherfucker's watched me.
Speaker 1: And then you get older, you got you have some empathy.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, this these are fucking jokes. Like my
Speaker 1: whole I remember when I started doing improv, Teacher at
Speaker 1: the Groundlings was like, your whole style is just being mean.
Speaker 1: Like every character you do in a scene you get
Speaker 1: laughs by just being me, You're not actually helping the
Speaker 1: scene go forward and to somebody else's dad's dick coming
Speaker 1: back to Okay, fine, look well what about the last
Speaker 1: thing in the bakery. I wasn't mean you came, you
Speaker 1: said when when you're seeing. Partner asked what you're baking?
Speaker 1: You said, but I just pulled out your dad's dick.
Speaker 1: It wasn't funny, man, it didn't make sense. It was
Speaker 1: like what then do you know working comedian who ended
Speaker 1: up becoming the Progressive Auto insurance lady. Yeah, Stephanie Courtney,
Speaker 1: Stephanie Courtney who plays Flow called me on that ship,
Speaker 1: and it took me a second to really think, like, fuck,
Speaker 1: the only way I know how to be funny was
Speaker 1: just to be nasty. Yeah, And that really took. That
Speaker 1: really was a gut check of like, man, that's that's
Speaker 1: actually like, not not even from an empathy stample, just
Speaker 1: from as a like an art I took a second.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have do I have it wrong?
Speaker 1: And can I even make funnier ideas up? If this
Speaker 1: is my only thing and it's easy. Now we're seeing
Speaker 1: a proliferation of people who they're going with the easiest ship,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, the artistry is not there,
Speaker 1: and we're rewarding people like we're saying to just regress you. Well,
Speaker 1: at least you know, if you if things go south
Speaker 1: with Zygeist or boost Ease or wherever there's a lane
Speaker 1: for your comedy. Oh yeah, you can bring it right back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I have the perfect career arc
Speaker 1: too angry podcast or turns just rabid hate comedian. I
Speaker 1: do feel like I don't know that when Chappelle left
Speaker 1: Chappelle's Show and like in the middle of making season three,
Speaker 1: I thought that was like one of the most underrated,
Speaker 1: like brave things celebrity has done. To just be like, yo,
Speaker 1: fame is will destroy me. I'm going to remove myself
Speaker 1: from it. And also like I don't like what this
Speaker 1: show means to people, and I don't like the effect
Speaker 1: I see it having on audiences. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he was just sensitive to what was coming,
Speaker 1: like what what he was capable of, or maybe maybe
Speaker 1: he is capable of introspection, and you know, we'll we'll
Speaker 1: see him evolve out loud. Don't need to count on
Speaker 1: it though, but I'm not counting on it. Do you
Speaker 1: remember that Lipton interview? Yeah, like, like I want that,
Speaker 1: and I know that it's sound it's self to say,
Speaker 1: but I want that Chappelle introspective, that honest introspective, just
Speaker 1: true to self. You know, you know, you know individual
Speaker 1: clearly going through stuff with processing. Right, it feels like
Speaker 1: that's not you know, that's about Martin Lawrence, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: a that Hollywood makes people lose their yeah, exactly, And
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, it's you don't know what happened when
Speaker 1: turns occurred, But I don't know. I'm not even really
Speaker 1: interested in knowing that. At the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Like again, just be careful with the things you consume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you take in, it's not just your food and stuff,
Speaker 1: it's it's really like the content you're looking at. There's
Speaker 1: a again, a plenty of things you can look at
Speaker 1: and get fucking angry about, but like try and put
Speaker 1: some ship in that is like joyful too, because just
Speaker 1: getting out in the world, you're going to see a
Speaker 1: ton of ship that you get outraged about. And we
Speaker 1: don't need to the the lines are clear in history
Speaker 1: and who's on the right side and who's on the wrong.
Speaker 1: But right now, it's clearly profitable to be on the wrong.
Speaker 1: And when you have the backing of a company night
Speaker 1: like Netflix, it's only going to reinforce that perception that
Speaker 1: you know, yes, Netflix is a joke, what that that
Speaker 1: ship just fucking infuriates me for some reason that that
Speaker 1: catchphrase is just like I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is about it, But Jabari is such a
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