Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty six,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirt Day. LEAs like production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Tuesday,
Speaker 1: May ten, which of course means it is National Lipid Day. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to that elements that is in our blood,
Speaker 1: like our lipids, like fat and cholesterol. But I think
Speaker 1: this one is about like raising awareness, so you know,
Speaker 1: making sure you got you know, make sure you get
Speaker 1: your lipids and check take a walk, you know, talk
Speaker 1: to your physics. Enough lipids, yeah, check it out, you
Speaker 1: got enough? Got too many, but get into it. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a day to just you know, house
Speaker 1: a bunch of bacon and egg yolks. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: trying to boost my lipids. Yeah, for the Lipid Day
Speaker 1: you take you you separate the whites from the yolks.
Speaker 1: You just put all the yolks in a blender, render
Speaker 1: all the fat from three packs of bacon into a
Speaker 1: cooking sheet, and dump that into the egg yolks. Oh,
Speaker 1: I told you my recipe. Yeah, ship, I thought that
Speaker 1: was okay. That's when when I told you I was
Speaker 1: doing peloton. You're like, oh, you're trying to get big,
Speaker 1: Oh you should use my method. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I was going for the same thing
Speaker 1: right now. I just kind of generally be bacon fat.
Speaker 1: That is the secret. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien ak.
Speaker 1: When the laws coda five, but the court says denied
Speaker 1: that suble ship. That is courtesy of at ruthless Fudge
Speaker 1: on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 1: buy my co host, Mr Miles Grad Miles Gray. But
Speaker 1: you already know that it was ten six twenty trees
Speaker 1: on time. Ten six twenty twenty trees on time. I'm
Speaker 1: all right, shout out to Ludwig von Drake for that one.
Speaker 1: You had a whole verse. I'm sorry I have to
Speaker 1: let people know you did write an entire verse eight
Speaker 1: seven five three o nine, but it was about Gin Thomas,
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas, his wife as it relates to the January
Speaker 1: six insurrection. I only had the energy and breath to
Speaker 1: do the chorus, but thank you for that contribution. Beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful work. Well, Miles Weird. Third to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat by a very talented writer stand up
Speaker 1: comedian podcast host of the beckdel Cast podcast, which takes
Speaker 1: down the patriarchy wan movie at a time. She also
Speaker 1: happens to have a master's degree in film and the
Speaker 1: most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending on
Speaker 1: whether you've been given her name on an assortment of
Speaker 1: scrabble tiles, you might know her as nine tip Dracula,
Speaker 1: Latin dancer u t I. But in our hearts she
Speaker 1: will always be Caitlin TOURNTO, Thank you so much, a
Speaker 1: K A K nine tail turd. Yes, those are the worst.
Speaker 1: Tail gets too fluffy, and then there's a little surprise
Speaker 1: waiting when you get good thing single berry. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: Latin dnswer u t I. That's not touching on anything
Speaker 1: ninety Dracula either, not to you know, cast dispersions on
Speaker 1: those fantastic names. But dog, wait was it canine tailed
Speaker 1: turtle turd I can entailed? The merchant is making itself.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful of Oh sorry, I just want to give
Speaker 1: credit where credit is due. That courtesy of Andy townshend
Speaker 1: ak flunk on the discard. I hope that information is
Speaker 1: still all correct because this was shared with me some
Speaker 1: some months ago. But okay, good, good, just sitting on
Speaker 1: I'm just yea like a dog with a canine tail turd.
Speaker 1: You were just sitting on candon tail Church time. Ready, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't work. She got that thing on her man,
Speaker 1: run up, get done up with a doctor, Caitlin. I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you. I didn't see the movie, but when
Speaker 1: I saw the trailer, I said, I have to know
Speaker 1: what Calin thinks of this, the unbearable weight of Was
Speaker 1: it massive talent? Yes? And you know, I'm asking why
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you because from the only
Speaker 1: thing I really gleaned from that film is there is
Speaker 1: an energetic debate over Paddington Too being the best film
Speaker 1: of all time. Correct, So the Pedro Pascal's character deems
Speaker 1: it his third favorite movie of all time, which he's
Speaker 1: in because it's should be number one. But they then
Speaker 1: and then Nicholas Cage is like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, And then they watch it together, and then
Speaker 1: they're both in tears and saying like Paddington two is incredible,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I told you. And then there's a
Speaker 1: call back toward it. There's a call back to it
Speaker 1: later on in the phone. So multiple Paddington two references
Speaker 1: obviously the best part of the entire movie. The movie
Speaker 1: itself is pretty fun, you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: fun romp. But the Paddington two references really elevated to
Speaker 1: to something great that they know what they're doing, that
Speaker 1: this is for the culture exactly, you know, absolutely, and
Speaker 1: they take it seriously. It's not like a joke where
Speaker 1: like he's he's dumb because he likes Paddington. It's like
Speaker 1: he actually knows we we respect these characters more because
Speaker 1: they acknowledge the greatness of Yeah, what the fuck, I'm
Speaker 1: in my mind it yet, Miles or Jack? Oh, that's
Speaker 1: the next one. I think I'm gonna go. I might
Speaker 1: see an it here. It's not streaming yet, right, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Paddington too. I don't give a shit about
Speaker 1: I want to. Yeah, I'm asking you, Miles, if you've
Speaker 1: seen Paddington two yet. I know, as the beginning of
Speaker 1: the week, But you gotta get your head straight, man,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Paddington two. Man, you're all you're upside
Speaker 1: down on all this ship man, trying to keep motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? No, I you promised you made
Speaker 1: a promise to me. I know, and you know, and
Speaker 1: it was a hard time. I was voting for Joe
Speaker 1: Biden around then. I was doing all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: I normally wouldn't do, going against a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I believe. I apologize. That is my failure that I
Speaker 1: will own and I will rectify it by the time.
Speaker 1: If you do not even on Mike, I will see
Speaker 1: it before I even record with you on Wednesday, right,
Speaker 1: because we are recording a back tocast episode. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to to So this is not that big of
Speaker 1: a promise. No, it's not on Paddington too, like im
Speaker 1: Then you show up and you're like a kind of
Speaker 1: bad again. Upright. I watched the Ultimatum for a third
Speaker 1: time in a row, all the way through. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's wrong with me. Oh man, goodness. If I
Speaker 1: had a Paddington to screening party, would you come? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just have Saddington to screening party. I suck
Speaker 1: it to make up for it. And can can I
Speaker 1: can I go to a MC and then out the
Speaker 1: theater have a private screening of Paddington two on their screen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Please do that. I feel like that's the only way
Speaker 1: I can make up for this. To be honest, I'm
Speaker 1: like acting like a like a step dad who forgot
Speaker 1: about their step kid's birthday, and now I'm going to
Speaker 1: go way overboard because I funked up materially so and
Speaker 1: make up for my lack of a most no contribute.
Speaker 1: When when you have an opinion that is like correct
Speaker 1: but lesser known, and then like people kind of start
Speaker 1: to come around on it, I feel like you can
Speaker 1: go a couple of different ways. How like when that
Speaker 1: was on screen in the movie, they were basically doing
Speaker 1: the same thing that you've been doing for for years.
Speaker 1: How did that feel where you were you? Did you
Speaker 1: feel honored? Did you just feel like, Okay, there is
Speaker 1: some truth in the universe. Well, I already knew about
Speaker 1: the truth of the universe and not truth, being that
Speaker 1: Paddington two is the greatest film of all time. I
Speaker 1: did feel validated. It did feel like they were kind
Speaker 1: of is playing as me, So that kind of makes
Speaker 1: me sort of like a superhero, like because you caused
Speaker 1: play superhero. So I I really did feel like a
Speaker 1: like a like a hero. You're a soldier and has
Speaker 1: have The filmmakers commented on whether that was explicit subtext
Speaker 1: like them cost playing because I can take soul credit
Speaker 1: for the observation. I believe it's honestly in my heart,
Speaker 1: that's a I I am always curious because when I
Speaker 1: was younger and and like, somebody really liked a band,
Speaker 1: and then the people found out about the band, the
Speaker 1: people who originally liked it would be like, nah, funk
Speaker 1: that I don't like the band anymore. Now that everybody
Speaker 1: else likes the band, I feel like that has become
Speaker 1: less of a popular position that they would be like
Speaker 1: they sold out right, because that always baffledbe because you're
Speaker 1: basically operating under the same principle or ideology as like conformity,
Speaker 1: where you're letting other people to opinion influence how you
Speaker 1: feel about something. No, No, it's not like it's just
Speaker 1: that I'm not cool anymore for liking this obscure band,
Speaker 1: and now that they're now everyone's like, objectively they're a
Speaker 1: good band. I'm like, yeah, the obscurity was the thing
Speaker 1: apparently that they like. The personality was liking things people
Speaker 1: don't know about and rejecting things that are widely accepted,
Speaker 1: like major thing in fan culture with like people who
Speaker 1: are like, well, I was into like Marvel before there
Speaker 1: was m c U and everything you say about it
Speaker 1: is going to annoy me now, the like there are
Speaker 1: such things as casual fans. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a few people who like family friends who got me
Speaker 1: into comics or like I hear the way they talk
Speaker 1: about Marvel now, it's truly on something, bro, I was
Speaker 1: living that ship my page. Man fucking Jon Favreau came along.
Speaker 1: Have either of you seen Doctor Strange speaking of Marvel?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I've seen I think three m c you
Speaker 1: films in my whole all right, I forget this about you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm wildly inconsistent with I've not seen it. I was
Speaker 1: a little scared off by the title. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a lot of Doctor Strange in the in the multiverse
Speaker 1: of madness. Yeah, I don't like I don't like conflict.
Speaker 1: I don't like madness when people are mad at me
Speaker 1: or the universe. A strange doctor, Give me out of here.
Speaker 1: Oh my doctors to be not strange, straight down the
Speaker 1: middle and trustworthy. Yeah, where's duct doctor? Trusting eyes? Um?
Speaker 1: All I know is that there's no there are no
Speaker 1: Paddington to references in Doctor muse of madness. Oh it's
Speaker 1: not really a good movie, which is disappointing, I think
Speaker 1: to everyone exactly, all right, Caitlin, we're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
Speaker 1: talking about. We are gonna take a look at some
Speaker 1: like somebody did a report on just a couple of
Speaker 1: policy pieces in the b B B the Bill back
Speaker 1: Better and how they evolved and how Democrats responded. I
Speaker 1: think it's very illuminating look at how the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: works functionally. We're gonna look at the media continuing to
Speaker 1: not really know how to react to the leaked opinion
Speaker 1: that is going to overturn Roe vu Wade this summer.
Speaker 1: The you know, Miles, you pulled this opinion piece on
Speaker 1: pro choice, but I don't think pro lifers are bad people,
Speaker 1: is the headline, Thank you New York Times. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: also a front page story on the Sunday New York
Speaker 1: Times that is all about, like, you know, tracking this
Speaker 1: journey that anti choice people have been on from a
Speaker 1: yep they said it grassroots movement through to this being
Speaker 1: actually legislation. So we'll talk about all of that. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about a new study that has some pretty interesting
Speaker 1: things to say about whether dudes are fucking gross or not.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna You're not gonna believe this ship. Can't wait. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be the most shocking thing we're gonna
Speaker 1: say this episode, just so, just to prepare the listener
Speaker 1: all of that ship. But before we get to any
Speaker 1: of it, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Okay, here's what
Speaker 1: I looked up. I wanted to know when is Shrek
Speaker 1: five coming out? Okay, and I have no further information
Speaker 1: I found. Uh So, if you go on IMDb and
Speaker 1: you look at Shrek five, the result is Shrek five
Speaker 1: colin Donkey Face Killer. It came out in Freddy, so
Speaker 1: that's not it Shrek. There's a there's a thing called
Speaker 1: Hans Magazine, and um it says that it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be released in September. I cannot substantiate this information. There
Speaker 1: is something published on looper dot com about Shrek five
Speaker 1: that it was supposed to come out in one and basically,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if this damn thing is happening
Speaker 1: or not. But I'm pulling out hope. This was a
Speaker 1: thing that was promised to the people of Shrek fandom,
Speaker 1: and now it's just kind of one of the things, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what happened to that fucking movie you talked about years ago?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think it was. It was
Speaker 1: in the works, and and now it's not really in
Speaker 1: the works. The universe like with the with the yeah,
Speaker 1: like the I think the way that the world has
Speaker 1: evolved closer to the truth as we saw with you know,
Speaker 1: people waking up to Paddington too, right, you know, the
Speaker 1: universe has also evolved so that there is a Shrek
Speaker 1: five shaped hole where Shrek five should be, and we
Speaker 1: we we need to stay on this. We just stay
Speaker 1: on this story. I actually so there was Shrek one,
Speaker 1: of course, who can forget three? But are we counting
Speaker 1: like Puss in Boots and stuff like that as Shrek
Speaker 1: four or no, because there is a Shrek four in existence.
Speaker 1: There is. It's like when it's like, isn't it like
Speaker 1: a word, like a penny name, like fourever like four
Speaker 1: forever after right? Right? Right? Got it? Okay? Oh damn,
Speaker 1: it's been so yeah, the people are waiting. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: waiting patiently. I need and granted I haven't seen Shrek four,
Speaker 1: so I'm behind. But it's like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: might be terrible. I will take comfort in knowing that
Speaker 1: Shrek five exists in the world for people to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't yet, so I think we need to come
Speaker 1: at the guy that I just saw an article that
Speaker 1: one of the people who wrote Austin Powers potentially wrote
Speaker 1: the Shrek five script and said it was a reinvention
Speaker 1: of the series. But that was in Shrek. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. Yesh, Shrek get frozen and talks about
Speaker 1: condoms and not using them. What am I a sailor? Like, wait,
Speaker 1: what you're using all the jokes from Austin Powers? Why
Speaker 1: do I love gold? Yeah? All right? It it is
Speaker 1: interesting that Shrek has not been rebooted, and maybe they
Speaker 1: have a timer like somewhere next to the atomic clock
Speaker 1: that's like deep in the earth somewhere that is just
Speaker 1: like Nope, not yet, it's gonna It's gonna ring when
Speaker 1: it's time to bring bring a second. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: there's eighties movies that haven't really really been like the
Speaker 1: Jaws franchise hasn't been really mentioned for a reboot because
Speaker 1: it ended so poorly. But I'm just one of like we're, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're going to do all of these right, Like
Speaker 1: they're they're not going to learn their lesson. So Back
Speaker 1: to the Future is an interesting one because I think
Speaker 1: Zamakis and the writer like own all the rights and
Speaker 1: you basically can't do it back to the Future thing
Speaker 1: without them like agreeing to it. So it's like, from
Speaker 1: my cold dead hands type, that's the one that makes
Speaker 1: the most sense to for them to revive and do
Speaker 1: a terrible job with That was also a branding branded bonanza,
Speaker 1: like all of the ad like the fucking product placement,
Speaker 1: even in the futuristic version. I was like, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't even funk with Coke. I funk with pepsi from
Speaker 1: or whatever the brand. I was like, that's what I'm into.
Speaker 1: I was a pepsi household and I never really interrogated
Speaker 1: I am a household onto myself. You guys should know that.
Speaker 1: And I think Back to the Future I had a
Speaker 1: big part of that that in Michael Jackson, it just
Speaker 1: looked cool, the pepsied bottled thing coming up and yeah
Speaker 1: there they must be sad, why don't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like they're so it's like crass or just so
Speaker 1: brazen that they probably just do something very similar. They're
Speaker 1: like Time Boy and Friend and Old Man Friend. But
Speaker 1: that's the point is that like you could even you
Speaker 1: couldn't pitch that. You could pitch a warmed over shitty
Speaker 1: version of Back to the Future, but you couldn't pitch
Speaker 1: like a I don't like the breakfast something brilliant like
Speaker 1: Time Boy and Friend. Yeah, where's the breakfast? I feel
Speaker 1: like the breakfast club they would have they would have
Speaker 1: completely just ran rough shot. I am as they haven't
Speaker 1: done anything with like John Hughes properties he must also
Speaker 1: got Yeah, it must be that, like they're those estates
Speaker 1: are like nah, clinging on, Yeah, I mean, come up
Speaker 1: with your own I don't, well I do, I do
Speaker 1: want to see Timeboy and Friend. But I mean a
Speaker 1: reboot makes sense if the first version like is was
Speaker 1: very bad or just like good premise but poorly executed,
Speaker 1: or they didn't have the special effects that they needed
Speaker 1: to like really like, I mean, well, there's some funked
Speaker 1: upsht about Back to the Future, but like it's also flawless.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'd say that's one that it's
Speaker 1: a very good thing. It hasn't been remade. They're they're
Speaker 1: making the right decision by holding off. They just need
Speaker 1: to green light time Boy and old future Man or
Speaker 1: whatever Timey and old Man call it. I mean we're
Speaker 1: we're we're work shopping here. So it's a it feels
Speaker 1: a living text. I feel like that's the daniels next film,
Speaker 1: Pine Boy, an old man friend but total absurdist view
Speaker 1: of like what it means to be able to have
Speaker 1: control of your life, like you could super producer justin
Speaker 1: point out like that is the premise of Rick and Morty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a Rick and Morty movie would essentially be trust me.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're already like, okay, how do we do that?
Speaker 1: That's right, that's a sea grab, a cash grab, ready
Speaker 1: to go. What else I'm trying to think of? If there,
Speaker 1: if they're new, they're new, back to the what would
Speaker 1: replace the DeLorean? Like a pt cruiser, Like what's that
Speaker 1: car that you oh but that she didn't even but
Speaker 1: at least you could have bought a DeLorean, like I
Speaker 1: don't even know if you know you can't anyway. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it doc would be played by Elon Musk as as
Speaker 1: and yeah, in our modern world, I feel like Time Boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Time Boy, an old man friend. It's about Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: time traveling by himself. It's just gonna be him and Musk,
Speaker 1: Ye young old Musk. Yeah, all right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come back. We're over the break. We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep kind of beating this one out and uh,
Speaker 1: well we'll come back with a fully fleshed out outline
Speaker 1: for Time Boy and Friends starring Elon Musk and Elon
Speaker 1: Musk as Elon Musk, and we're back. That that was
Speaker 1: a real dead end, didn't didn't go the way we thought.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fighting. It's got a big
Speaker 1: old argument. We're not friends anyway. Yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: little awkward. Not gonna lie to your listeners. They got
Speaker 1: really contentious. When I said there would be like hoverboard
Speaker 1: razor scooters and a bridge too far for kid, I said, hell, no,
Speaker 1: that's that is where, Kitlin? Where what is? What is
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Caitlin, I think all hogends
Speaker 1: ice cream is so over Finally someone says it. We
Speaker 1: couldn't say that we're not brave enough. And I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna say I agree with you because of, you know,
Speaker 1: my lack of spine. But that is a very interesting take.
Speaker 1: I think it all tastes like water that they put
Speaker 1: a little bit of milk into and then too much sugar,
Speaker 1: and all the flavors are bad, and even the flavors
Speaker 1: that like would be hard to mess up. I think
Speaker 1: tastes like poopoo. I think it's bad ice cream. Oh man,
Speaker 1: all right, we might have to edit that out, Caitlin.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I'm laughing over thinking about the
Speaker 1: sensors and what they're the what they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do with that. You know, Old Stephen legally he's sweating
Speaker 1: over this episode. I'm not saying that Hogands is made
Speaker 1: of poopoo, So hog And does. When I was growing up,
Speaker 1: was treated by my mom as like the holy Grail
Speaker 1: of substances. It was really yeah, yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 1: She really like coffee ice cream, She really like their
Speaker 1: coffee ice cream, and like it just got a it
Speaker 1: just was like stuck into my brain as the Rolls
Speaker 1: Royce of things that aren't cars. Basically, Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it had this thing. At least my idea
Speaker 1: of Hogg and Does was that it was so fucking elevated,
Speaker 1: like in the eighties, like you thought that was like
Speaker 1: the BMW of ice creams, because it was the ship
Speaker 1: was spelled with like woumb loots and ship. You're like,
Speaker 1: hogging do this ain't no, this ain't no Kroger Neopolitan
Speaker 1: mixt tub. Yeah, this is how good house and yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel like that ship is fancy. And I remember
Speaker 1: like all like my mom was the same way because
Speaker 1: she know, She's like I've I've lived in Europe and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this ship is from the Bronx. Mom, Like,
Speaker 1: if you a condition is not from Germany, it's like
Speaker 1: a Polish dude started in the Bronx. But she loved it.
Speaker 1: Like I saw everyone around me being like this is
Speaker 1: the best. As a kid, I was like, dude, this
Speaker 1: has no fun shit in it. It looks boring. And
Speaker 1: to your point, Caitlin, it's not really rich. It feels
Speaker 1: like you made ice cream with like two percent milk, yeah,
Speaker 1: or skim Look well, we're also a skim milk. I
Speaker 1: was a skim milk cowsehold as well. So that's probably
Speaker 1: lowered my threshold. So you just don't have good taste
Speaker 1: and dairy. Well, I say, I have not had hogdag
Speaker 1: since then, and I don't. I don't really have any
Speaker 1: interest in it because I don't have like particularly strong memories,
Speaker 1: and the best ice cream, the best ice creams I've
Speaker 1: had are never from there, like as as an adult,
Speaker 1: so exactly I do. I do like a lot of
Speaker 1: sugar though, so I don't mind a real sugar bomb
Speaker 1: of an ice cream. But oh my gosh, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm reading the Wikipedia page. When they first were coming
Speaker 1: out with it, they wanted the guy who started at
Speaker 1: this guy Ruben Mattis, wanted something that sounded daint like
Speaker 1: it was Danish, because he was a Polish Jew himself
Speaker 1: and he was really was touched by the exemplary treatment
Speaker 1: of Denmark, of Denmark's exemplary treatment of Jewish people during
Speaker 1: the war, and so he wanted to he wanted something
Speaker 1: Danish sounding. And then even there was an outline of
Speaker 1: Denmark on some of the early labels because and again
Speaker 1: to even to this guy's sort of logic was that
Speaker 1: it was known for dairy products and had a positive
Speaker 1: image in the United States. There you go. H wow,
Speaker 1: all back. I mean not to say that look ice
Speaker 1: cream objectively, I'm sorry, I will I will go to
Speaker 1: the stuff that has the has the most lipids in it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Give me, yeah the what what's
Speaker 1: the other? I think it was Godiva Chocolates that I've
Speaker 1: talked about before that I feel like that. I feel
Speaker 1: like that operates in a similar space to Hagandaza is
Speaker 1: like still coasting off of like eighties and nineties branding
Speaker 1: where people were just like, oh, hell yeah, this is
Speaker 1: like the Creme de la creme. It's Michael Douglas in
Speaker 1: a skin suit. Yeah exactly. I've had I like, I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I like chocolate, and I've had bad. I
Speaker 1: haven't had too much chocolate that I was like, the
Speaker 1: fuck Gadiva has crossed that bridge once or twice. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: let us know where's who is the most unhealthy ice cream?
Speaker 1: That's really what it's about. Like, if I'm gonna treat
Speaker 1: myself to a combination of like life altering fat and sugar, Like,
Speaker 1: let's alter my life. Yeah, let's do it. Same. Also,
Speaker 1: it can't be like heart attack ice cream. Or relationship.
Speaker 1: That's like design to do that. Which is which is
Speaker 1: your milkshake? You were talking about just adding sugar and
Speaker 1: freezing it. We'll see. That's that's where you're wrong though,
Speaker 1: because my milkshake is actually tip build protein and your
Speaker 1: body needs fat. The actually use eggs and ice cream.
Speaker 1: So this isn't actually that strange. My milkshake brings all
Speaker 1: the boys. I don't know. Yeah, famously my milkshake. That
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be debated anymore. Thatn my milkshake. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? I think, uh, continuing
Speaker 1: to wear masks indoors especially is underrated. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of people are doing it. Not a lot of people
Speaker 1: are participating. Uh, and a lot of people are getting
Speaker 1: COVID still, So I'm all about that life of you
Speaker 1: go to the movies, go to the grocery store, you
Speaker 1: go to any kind of store, any you just place indoors,
Speaker 1: keep your mask on. Yeah, that's just my controversial indoors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm like, I'm like, I'm always messed
Speaker 1: up going indoors right at that point, Also, like I
Speaker 1: found it's like my face hoodie. I feel naked about it.
Speaker 1: But like I would say even so, like a lot
Speaker 1: of the mask mandates have been lifted, I think probably
Speaker 1: all over the country by now, I'm only really paying
Speaker 1: attention to what's happening in like l A County, but
Speaker 1: ninety or more pergent of people going around with their
Speaker 1: masks off. So yeah, yeah, and it's still I know,
Speaker 1: it's still very uh, like I always hear anecdotes are
Speaker 1: just like write ups where people were talking about how
Speaker 1: like sometimes people beginning like diarrhea, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: a symptom of COVID. But some people have just focused
Speaker 1: on that and like I have food poisoning I think,
Speaker 1: and then a cough later and they're like, go get tested.
Speaker 1: We've been testing the sewer water because you guys are
Speaker 1: so dumb at knowing what your body is doing and
Speaker 1: you all have COVID. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's wild. The energy is very much like it's over
Speaker 1: and everyone's like COVID is over. And I every week
Speaker 1: some person, at least one person I know who I'm
Speaker 1: like close to it's like, yeah, I have COVID, and like,
Speaker 1: of course you do, because everyone's just going on willy nilly.
Speaker 1: So anyway, keep wearing your masks. That's what I would recommend,
Speaker 1: and like at the very least have have some sense
Speaker 1: of reciprocity, like you don't do things like well I
Speaker 1: don't need it, I'm not sick. Try and think about
Speaker 1: you're trying to also create an environment for people who
Speaker 1: don't have an immune system that is as strong as
Speaker 1: yours to not have it be a mortal risk when
Speaker 1: they just want to get some haugendaus right exactly, or
Speaker 1: go see Shrek five in the theater, right, yeah, that
Speaker 1: shouldn't go right to ice, right, yeah, I am. I
Speaker 1: also want somebody to interview the people who don't wear
Speaker 1: masks and indoors well other people are wearing masks and
Speaker 1: just do the like people people with their face diapers,
Speaker 1: and just get them talking, because I just want to
Speaker 1: know what the inside of there. Wasn't that bad. I've
Speaker 1: had it and it wasn't that bad. I was with
Speaker 1: a group of people who are like, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get it. We're gonna get it, and
Speaker 1: we can. A part of me understands like to not
Speaker 1: completely like you know, retreat from life. But the people
Speaker 1: I know who normally were wearing masks was like, now
Speaker 1: I got that ship two weeks ago, so um, you
Speaker 1: know we're good. We're good right now. I'm just doing
Speaker 1: that move. And I feel like that's a lot of
Speaker 1: the people I see two are just recently or like
Speaker 1: they're within their ninety days of being sick, and they
Speaker 1: think they're you know, I feel like there's a patronizing
Speaker 1: smile that goes with the people who don't have the
Speaker 1: mask on and see you wearing a mask, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's just me being hyper like, you know,
Speaker 1: self conscious and being I'm like, what do you stupid?
Speaker 1: What it's because the mask is is so symbolic, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's hard to not map onto someone wearing or
Speaker 1: not wearing, like I believe these things to be true
Speaker 1: about this person. But it's like I was, I was there,
Speaker 1: I was where you are mere weeks ago. So what changed?
Speaker 1: What change? I decided I wasn't gonna be afraid anymore
Speaker 1: and I started to be free. I just want to
Speaker 1: live my normal life. And it's just like I want
Speaker 1: to live my normal life of not socializing with people
Speaker 1: like it was before. All right, let's dig into fun stuff.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party baby, Matt and pretty much all yeah,
Speaker 1: policy making this point. Yeah, so Matt Brunnig, who is
Speaker 1: writing in Jacobin, but I think he wade through a
Speaker 1: bunch of places, was like, since the Billback Better initiatives
Speaker 1: are past, and like they were, they were, you know,
Speaker 1: putting the bills out where people could read them. He
Speaker 1: was noticing contradictions between what they said and then what
Speaker 1: would end up after a couple of revisions in the bill,
Speaker 1: and he would point it out in articles and there
Speaker 1: would be this like massive pushback from sort of mainstream
Speaker 1: media outlets and supposedly like progressive think tanks where they
Speaker 1: would just say he was lying, and he he was like,
Speaker 1: huh no, it's like right there, and the like you
Speaker 1: can just read the thing. It's right there. It says
Speaker 1: it there. And he would have like, eventually, it's been
Speaker 1: you know, a while since they first introduced Bill back Better,
Speaker 1: like the he's been able to get people to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we always knew that was a problem, but like we
Speaker 1: didn't we were trying to control the messaging. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, it just it suggests like the way he
Speaker 1: put it really well, rather than work towards creating the
Speaker 1: best possible policies we can through public debate, critique, and reform.
Speaker 1: The name of the game is messaging and information control,
Speaker 1: including within Congress. Like at one point, so he was
Speaker 1: pointing out that like they were really like massively rolling
Speaker 1: back benefits around the pre K and childcare proposals, and
Speaker 1: a member of Congress like reached out to him. I
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, where do you Where do you see that?
Speaker 1: Because I like nobody in the media is pointing that out,
Speaker 1: Like where where'd you come up with this stuff? And
Speaker 1: he's like, I just fucking read it. What do you read? Oh, shoult,
Speaker 1: I don't go and read it. I should have looked
Speaker 1: at motherfucker space. I t it. Yeah, and I it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty upsetting because it feels like you have one
Speaker 1: party that if the bills are this complexly worded, imagine
Speaker 1: trying to like get the benefits that are actually inside
Speaker 1: that they're supposed to be delivering to everyday people. It's
Speaker 1: a like labyrinthine nightmare to get anything from the U. S.
Speaker 1: Government because since you know, the seventies and eighties onward,
Speaker 1: they've like means tested everything and just made it so
Speaker 1: that if you want government benefits, you have to do
Speaker 1: all the work, like you have to do a full
Speaker 1: time jobs worth of work. We've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: but like that has been the strategy. Like you allocate
Speaker 1: the things that people think they need, but then you
Speaker 1: make it very difficult and time consuming to actually get them.
Speaker 1: And that way nobody's mad at you because you put
Speaker 1: the money aside. But also it like doesn't actually functionally
Speaker 1: help anybody, So corporations and Republicans don't get mad at you.
Speaker 1: But the so you have on the one side Republicans
Speaker 1: who like sneak steal, cheat to get every last word
Speaker 1: they can in that like benefits their constituency, which is
Speaker 1: like billionaires basically, and uh, you know, evil conservatives and
Speaker 1: white supremacists. And then you have Democrats who like do
Speaker 1: use the complexity of the bill to just like hide
Speaker 1: that they're not helping the people they claim to be helping.
Speaker 1: So nobody is helping people like they're just helping corporations,
Speaker 1: you know, because lobbyists, right, so much of the like
Speaker 1: our legislation, you know, that's such a huge part. And
Speaker 1: people when you have staffers used to have people with
Speaker 1: like full on policy brain, like walked out people on
Speaker 1: your staff to right bills, and over time that shifted
Speaker 1: a lot of staffers are much younger and can do
Speaker 1: like a variety of things because it's not just about
Speaker 1: like speaking to the press, like do you have any
Speaker 1: acumen on social media? Do you can you? Are you bilingual?
Speaker 1: Do you know this area? Well, there's like so many
Speaker 1: other things now that just become very easy for policy.
Speaker 1: When lot of you show up, they're like, we got
Speaker 1: an idea for a law that would be really interesting,
Speaker 1: and you can introduce it so you can get the credit.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna how about just take a look at
Speaker 1: that real quick and introduce that and it's going to
Speaker 1: help our industry. It's because we're we come from this,
Speaker 1: like we're representing this industry of benefits and a lot
Speaker 1: of that policymaking. It just becomes so normalized that yeah,
Speaker 1: like even that, like how confused that one person is, like, hey,
Speaker 1: how do you know that? Because they don't even have
Speaker 1: time to read the bills right? Right? And it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be that way like that. The two options
Speaker 1: shouldn't be party that is good at lying to hurt
Speaker 1: people and party that lies to you know, hide the
Speaker 1: fact that they're not helping people like those should not
Speaker 1: be the two options, but it it currently is, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like it's a thing that people really
Speaker 1: talked about. But I also think that you know it is,
Speaker 1: you will naturally see just like incrementally our rights being
Speaker 1: taken away as individuals, and especially people who are poor,
Speaker 1: people who are women, people who are minorities, Like that's
Speaker 1: who the Republicans are going after. And if they're only
Speaker 1: opposition is a party that is just like doing their
Speaker 1: best to see make sure you don't see what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's pretty inevitable. It feels like, yay, hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk about how the media is dealing with this,
Speaker 1: because they're nailing it at least we you know, democracy
Speaker 1: dies in the darkness, and democracy dies in the New
Speaker 1: York Times op ed pieces. Yeah, what the fuck? So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been hard to find like a scathing
Speaker 1: piece of journalism or opinion piece that's like in like
Speaker 1: the your New York Times, l A Times type of
Speaker 1: like CNNs like that aren't just like if there is,
Speaker 1: it's not just thrown to the side, like really saying,
Speaker 1: front page, this is the state of things. We need
Speaker 1: to be alarmed and upset and angry for this myriad
Speaker 1: of reasons. There are light things like that, but nothing
Speaker 1: that quite arises to that. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: belabor this point because I feel like I've just been
Speaker 1: talking about it NonStop. But the way this like anger
Speaker 1: is being deflected is just so fucked up. You know,
Speaker 1: people are losing their rights, they're fucking rights to body autonomy.
Speaker 1: And we have some op ed in the New York
Speaker 1: Time that's titled I'm pro choice, but I don't think
Speaker 1: pro lifers are bad people. Now, on one hand, I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you trying to do this to say we shouldn't
Speaker 1: be rightfully upset at the people who believe that we
Speaker 1: have no rights to our own, like to make decisions
Speaker 1: over our bodies, like we're supposed to be cool with that?
Speaker 1: Is that the thrust? Now, this is what is in
Speaker 1: this op ed is like just trying to human like, look,
Speaker 1: there are people too going This is from this op
Speaker 1: ed quote. However, I'm also aware that opposition to abortion
Speaker 1: is often founded on a basic ide you that that
Speaker 1: it constitutes the taking of a human life, with many
Speaker 1: seeing a fetus at even its earliest stages as a
Speaker 1: person to be that morally forbids us to kill. I
Speaker 1: know people of this view of all racist classes and
Speaker 1: levels of education. For them, all the negative effects of
Speaker 1: doing away with rome may fade in importance. To them,
Speaker 1: those things are a lesser priority than preserving life. Goes
Speaker 1: on to say, for many, including me, the priority is
Speaker 1: what a woman does with her own body. As such,
Speaker 1: many supposed that to be against abortion is to be
Speaker 1: anti feminist. But for pro lifers, are rumors right even
Speaker 1: to controlling her own body stops at what they see
Speaker 1: is killing an unborn child. To many of them, being
Speaker 1: anti abortion is quite compatible with feminism. So it feels
Speaker 1: like their strategy here is to be like, well, now
Speaker 1: that anti abortion people are have power and are doing
Speaker 1: this thing, we might as well get to know them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might as well open up to lick that boot too.
Speaker 1: Hey there are people too, you know, these are your
Speaker 1: new neighbors. And and meanwhile, there are pieces saying mccon
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell just made a grave error by saying that
Speaker 1: this decision could potentially lead to a federal law that
Speaker 1: makes abortion illegal. I mean, yeah, that is fucked up.
Speaker 1: That's you don't you never you want to hear somebody
Speaker 1: articulate that thought. But he did, and he's saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: potentially we could legislate on that at a federal level.
Speaker 1: And they took the prospect of curtailing rights and immediately
Speaker 1: spun it into electoral sports nonsense. And this other piece
Speaker 1: it says, I think it's something like Mitch McConnell just
Speaker 1: like handed the Democrats gold or something. This this one
Speaker 1: paragraph goes down after describing like how much how unpopular
Speaker 1: being anti abortion is, uh is, they go on to
Speaker 1: say this quote, this should be electoral gold. Is that
Speaker 1: sentence alone? Chang? That was that was my first thought.
Speaker 1: Run I read the opinion this should be electoral gold.
Speaker 1: We're you've completely abstracted and made turn into a complete, nebulous,
Speaker 1: non human like form the idea of someone not having
Speaker 1: body out time like that's that, that doesn't matter. They
Speaker 1: just got gold. Who the fucking people who want to
Speaker 1: uphold the status quo? And he goes on to say,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine a swing state or swing house district
Speaker 1: in the country where a majority of voters would support
Speaker 1: a federal band, even a partial one. Then this this
Speaker 1: piece also goes on to say I've been hearing anecdotally
Speaker 1: from friends and seeing on Twitter that women around the
Speaker 1: country were outraged by the Elito decision. They're looking, they're
Speaker 1: looking to do something. Well, they should do this. Once
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's decision in the Mississippi case is officially
Speaker 1: handed down, assuming it's close to what Elito wrote, women's
Speaker 1: groups and other political groups around the country should take
Speaker 1: McConnell's quote and hanging around the neck of every Republican
Speaker 1: candidate in the country day after day after day. Is
Speaker 1: this written by someone who will never need to have
Speaker 1: an abortion or knows not anything of what threats that
Speaker 1: loom are to the to any to any human being.
Speaker 1: It's also just like pure like political consultants speak of
Speaker 1: like hanging around their neck and like that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything that we're already talking about the legal qual like
Speaker 1: there's so many like legal scholars like, dude, if this
Speaker 1: ship happens, there's gonna be like cross border, like cross
Speaker 1: crossing state lines. Lawsuits were like Mississippi is like, how
Speaker 1: dare California allow someone from our state to do something
Speaker 1: like this? And that's they said, wait for that ship
Speaker 1: to start up, let alone the human toll on people.
Speaker 1: The war between the states would be electoral gold miles
Speaker 1: fucking jackpot, baby, I'm sorry, where do you live? Oh?
Speaker 1: I live in a I live in a brownstone that's
Speaker 1: paid for and I kind of just like passively collect
Speaker 1: income from this, like first apartment I had actually in Dumbo,
Speaker 1: which was great. I bought it for like a laugh
Speaker 1: in the eighties. But yeah, and now I'm like selling
Speaker 1: it and I'm like thinking for like seven grand a month,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. And then I write these pieces about
Speaker 1: people's dwindling rights and why it's like don't worry, Like
Speaker 1: McConnell just handed an l to himself and we're all
Speaker 1: just people. Let's all just hold hands and get along again.
Speaker 1: This is the thing. More and more, this like emphasis on,
Speaker 1: like we'll just get engaged that one day a week
Speaker 1: when we beg for your vote, and then ignore everything
Speaker 1: every you know, for three years at a time. There's
Speaker 1: something that's just so offensive and absurd, and I think
Speaker 1: most people aren't able to quite articulate it yet. But
Speaker 1: it's this idea that people who are able to do
Speaker 1: something about it are sitting on their hands and acting
Speaker 1: like this is on you, right, And that's just I
Speaker 1: don't think they don't even realize how that's polling. I
Speaker 1: mean the kind of subconscious level with people. They just
Speaker 1: need to hang this around their head. Um the New
Speaker 1: York Times. I still get the Sunday Times because I'm
Speaker 1: al and the this one right here at the very
Speaker 1: top left corner, abortions ponder a world after row falls.
Speaker 1: So they're abortion foes. It's all just friends and shoe
Speaker 1: and yeah, movement sees goals beyond legislation. The sprawling anti
Speaker 1: abortion grassroots campaign, which as we talked about, is like
Speaker 1: funded by a handful of like very very wealthy people.
Speaker 1: Obviously there are anti choice people, but like the way
Speaker 1: that it has become this big is not grassroots. It's
Speaker 1: by taking massive the Judicial Crisis Network spending ten million
Speaker 1: dollars per nominee in messaging and ships. Sprawling anti abortion
Speaker 1: grassroots campaign is rapidly approaching an entirely new era, one
Speaker 1: in which abortion would no longer be a nationally protected
Speaker 1: right to overcome, but a decision to be legislated by
Speaker 1: individual states. So it's just telling they're like, WHOA, what
Speaker 1: if we told this story from the perspective of the
Speaker 1: anti abortion fascists like that would be kind of cool,
Speaker 1: right to, Like, I mean, people haven't thought about it,
Speaker 1: that would they Like I saw this Kendrick video and
Speaker 1: like I was like, it's all about perspective, and so
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what if I told the story? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, this is this is what happens like
Speaker 1: neo liberalism, just like being confused in the face of fascions.
Speaker 1: We see this in history a bunch like a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, just sitting on your hands when people are
Speaker 1: telling you out loud, yeah, we might ban abortion federally,
Speaker 1: so fucking nobody can can has any sort of right
Speaker 1: to bodily autonomy. And then we'll take away contraception and
Speaker 1: you'll have no choice but to create more people to
Speaker 1: you know, work under whatever Coke Brothers fuel Nightmary of it.
Speaker 1: This is why I got my tubes tied when I
Speaker 1: did like one of the reasons. Seriously, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not confident that I that this country,
Speaker 1: I will have easy and safe access to legal like
Speaker 1: access to safe legal abortions. Move forward, And how much
Speaker 1: of a fucking ordeal was it for you to even
Speaker 1: get to the point where you could extremely difficult it
Speaker 1: was so many hurdles to guess the bodily autonomy things
Speaker 1: all over again. Sure, you want to do this, you
Speaker 1: want to do this. It was. I had people tell
Speaker 1: me doctors and such say like, you won't you like,
Speaker 1: no surgeon will even do this until you're thirty five,
Speaker 1: especially if you don't already have children. You know, just
Speaker 1: all these people saying like, oh, if you're not married,
Speaker 1: no one will do if you're just like a single person.
Speaker 1: That sounds like one of those doctors that's part of
Speaker 1: those like evangelical doctors groups where they're like, I'm on
Speaker 1: the front line of convincing people from doing such radical things.
Speaker 1: It was. And then I finally found someone who's just
Speaker 1: like and it was also kind of dismissive to where
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I was told I had to
Speaker 1: wait until I was thirty five, and I should have
Speaker 1: just advocated for myself harder. But also that's such a
Speaker 1: burden to take on, and that's what ah. But uh,
Speaker 1: I found someone and I was like, hey, um, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get my tubes tied. I'm thirty five, so I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to do it now, question Mark, And he's like,
Speaker 1: you could have gone it done earlier, and I was like,
Speaker 1: could I have though, like I tried. Yeah, He's like, sorry,
Speaker 1: you probably yeah, He's like, I would have done it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There are some weird doctors out there who are gonna
Speaker 1: want to get in your head and make you question
Speaker 1: a decision you you didn't. It's like you saw some
Speaker 1: fucking commercial and we're like, yeah, this sounds cool, like
Speaker 1: as if you're not a person who's taking their own
Speaker 1: life into account and coming to this decision on their own,
Speaker 1: but rather than being patronizing and tweeting, treating like some
Speaker 1: confused person off the street, right. It was. And then
Speaker 1: every every nurse in that office was also like, wait,
Speaker 1: so how many kids do you have? And I was
Speaker 1: like zero? And they're like, so you just don't want
Speaker 1: to have kids? And I was like, uh huh, like
Speaker 1: no one could wrap their heads. Every uh, like every
Speaker 1: person who like the antithesiologist when I was having the surgery,
Speaker 1: all nurses when I was having the surgery, they're just like, okay,
Speaker 1: so how many kids do you have? And like you're
Speaker 1: like you're done having kids? And I was like, uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have zero and I'm done. And they're like what
Speaker 1: And it's just it's a baffling. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: we're talking about something different than abortion right now, but
Speaker 1: like it's all it's all under this. It's like a
Speaker 1: part of this umbrella of the same ideology of like
Speaker 1: people with uteruses are seeing there, like the means of production,
Speaker 1: and and uh, we want to be able to control that,
Speaker 1: and it's horrifying. No, that's uh, that's uterine communism. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna see the means of production. It's gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna the capitalists will dictate to you that the manner
Speaker 1: in which life is produced. It's yeah, it's yeah. But
Speaker 1: like you know, this is all part of a larger
Speaker 1: culture that we're in that is already even in situations
Speaker 1: where it should be something as simple as high I
Speaker 1: would like this procedure that is safe and it's not
Speaker 1: like it's immoral and I'm entitled to leakally as long
Speaker 1: as I'm eighteen or did you think about this, dude? No,
Speaker 1: you're sucking up right there. The conversation ends when I
Speaker 1: say this is what I want to need and I'm
Speaker 1: not break the law. Don't fucking you're not trying to.
Speaker 1: You don't need to save me, I've made a decision. Yep.
Speaker 1: So many parts of our society and important parts, they're
Speaker 1: just so much more conservative and like retrograde. And that
Speaker 1: then Americans realized, and Americans don't realize it because they
Speaker 1: aren't interested in other countries, so like they don't know
Speaker 1: what what other countries are like. So they're just like,
Speaker 1: this is the best there is. All right, that's what
Speaker 1: I've been told America number one. Alright, let's say a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk about dudes and
Speaker 1: they're chet washing habits, and we're back, and Miles, this
Speaker 1: is yours. This is a story that you're bringing to us.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe it, dude, but all right, man,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I read it and I was like just
Speaker 1: reading through this whole article, and I was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm once was one of these people. So here's something
Speaker 1: that doesn't really need a survey to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of it. But about how many young single men
Speaker 1: do you think change their sheets regularly? Now regularly? Already
Speaker 1: up Now you're thinking, like a gross dude, just generally
Speaker 1: from your I'm just positing that what is it what
Speaker 1: you and you can create your own timeline. You can
Speaker 1: you can say I believe x percent only do it
Speaker 1: X times a year or every once every x years
Speaker 1: or whatever you think. I mean, if it's angually, that's
Speaker 1: still a disgusting like health hazard to everybody, um even
Speaker 1: sits on your bed. But if that is included and
Speaker 1: the I don't know, I'd say fifty percent of people
Speaker 1: do it regularly, including like including an annual change. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is okay, and this is also just you know,
Speaker 1: this is a group of young men in the UK
Speaker 1: about around people, Caitlin, what about you? Okay, I think
Speaker 1: that only five of men change slash wash their sheets
Speaker 1: as frequently as once a month. I would say it's
Speaker 1: maybe something like twenty percent wash and change their sheets
Speaker 1: as frequently as like once every three months, and it
Speaker 1: just it keeps. I would say, like, what is that?
Speaker 1: What these reactions? Jack? I would say, um, fifty of
Speaker 1: men No, I would say, like, only four forty do
Speaker 1: it more frequently than once every six months. That's okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me let me get you with some answers.
Speaker 1: So after this survey, almost half of single men said
Speaker 1: they don't wash their bed sheets for up to four
Speaker 1: months at a time. With twelve percent admitting they wash
Speaker 1: them when they remember, which could be even long. What
Speaker 1: is that? It looks like yeah, and you know this
Speaker 1: is uh? They go on to like what is CAUSI now?
Speaker 1: I I can speak for myself. When I was living,
Speaker 1: like when I was in college and I was not
Speaker 1: sharing a bed with a person, it was like my
Speaker 1: like depression chamber of like being crushed by life. Like
Speaker 1: I didn't know who I was, a non fully formed person.
Speaker 1: I was like doing a lot of drugs and drinking
Speaker 1: a ton and just like I just didn't give a funk.
Speaker 1: I was like who cares, dude, Like I just get
Speaker 1: in here. It's my fucking problem. Like I'm not asking anybody.
Speaker 1: And I would do the panick thing like if company
Speaker 1: was coming over, I would never I would. I would
Speaker 1: put on the air that I was a sheet changer,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And how would you do that?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like I would I would just yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like I knew. I was like, no, I
Speaker 1: can't have people look like because I knew. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this pillow case is starting to smell like my gym
Speaker 1: shirt from junior, Like and I and I just didn't.
Speaker 1: I just didn't. It just wasn't processing that way. But
Speaker 1: they're also kind of pointing to this other thing, like,
Speaker 1: you know, men do it like sort of like weaponized
Speaker 1: incompetence to like if they're living with a partner, they
Speaker 1: may do that just to be like I can't do it,
Speaker 1: so like I'm probably gonna it up. Maybe you can
Speaker 1: do it, you know, like they shoulders up. And but
Speaker 1: I think also, you know, I think there's also women
Speaker 1: who also responded to this survey. Are women identifying Respondents
Speaker 1: to the survey said every two weeks. I'm on that now.
Speaker 1: I'm every I'm an every two week person. I'm glad
Speaker 1: to hear that that's the most I go. It's two weeks. Yeah, weekly,
Speaker 1: But definitely identify with um the collegiate. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't remember what my routine was, but I also don't
Speaker 1: remember and much of college. So and that has to
Speaker 1: do with the alcohol and drug intakes that you were
Speaker 1: referencing before, my inability to uh function as a as
Speaker 1: a fully formed adults human. Yeah, there were some dudes
Speaker 1: who are like, I shower at night, so I don't
Speaker 1: do it. So that's why I don't do it. Don't
Speaker 1: get dirty. Yeah, but over time that may be the case,
Speaker 1: but like you still need to probably change your sheets.
Speaker 1: Another thing was just sort of about obviously because of
Speaker 1: you know, patriarchy, misogyny, there's just no pressure on men
Speaker 1: societally to to not be good hygiene generally exactly, and
Speaker 1: that that's another huge part of it. And some other
Speaker 1: people think like it could also just be a fact
Speaker 1: of like how little especially like I think probably men
Speaker 1: in the Western hemisphere communicate their needs or emotions or
Speaker 1: like anything out that so you're just turned into an
Speaker 1: inward like gross bed person. I don't know. They were
Speaker 1: like many different sort of perspectives and like what could
Speaker 1: be driving it Just the way that like some men
Speaker 1: are not can like conditioned, are brought up in a
Speaker 1: way that they generally have to do any household domestic
Speaker 1: chores that is like, no, that's what a woman does.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do laundry. You're a man, you know.
Speaker 1: One of my first serious girlfriends saw how I was
Speaker 1: like lick living and they're like, you just think a
Speaker 1: woman is gonna do all this, huh? And I was like, no, No,
Speaker 1: I just don't need any of it. I was like
Speaker 1: I just don't look I'm good without a woman and
Speaker 1: it's not getting done. Then you're like wait, and then
Speaker 1: I had to really think. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm gross. And I've completely like I truly without even
Speaker 1: realizing how like patriarchy brained I was. I was like
Speaker 1: fuck yeah, because in my mind, like the rhythm of
Speaker 1: my life going into high school was my mother could
Speaker 1: help me do something. And then like when you take
Speaker 1: that out, like it just turned into like a runaway
Speaker 1: gross train and I had to get called on it.
Speaker 1: To even begin trying to like become a less gross
Speaker 1: person took about seven years. Yep, good and yeah um
Speaker 1: and then but ever since, you know, I've been with her, majesty,
Speaker 1: I've been fully She worked with me to be a
Speaker 1: fully formed person, very clean. Now. In fact, I have
Speaker 1: white sheets now that's I usually go with like off colors,
Speaker 1: because I was like, man, you can't tell if that's
Speaker 1: it's dirty, and that's that's that's dangerous, especially if you've
Speaker 1: got like a dog maybe with some canine tail turt
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I don't know. I think they're
Speaker 1: called canine tail turts, the official medical term veterinary, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that we're again. It was it was interesting to see
Speaker 1: how like nailed on this kind of like over like
Speaker 1: half for like four months. Horrible, horrifying. Anyways, some people
Speaker 1: say it should be once a week. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: once a week. That just feels like a lot of water.
Speaker 1: Though that that's that does feel excessive to me, especially
Speaker 1: if I don't so I don't have laundry in my unit,
Speaker 1: I have to go elsewhere to do laundry. And it's
Speaker 1: so it always feels like so much more of a chore.
Speaker 1: So I have to be very strategic about like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what am I washing? What can I brain? What can
Speaker 1: I carry you to this other place? But yeah, things
Speaker 1: like you know, sheets, towels, underwears, you know, let's wash.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the towel. I mean that was what I
Speaker 1: had to do. I remember reading an article that was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to wash your towel, right brod
Speaker 1: clean when I use it? Why would I need to what?
Speaker 1: I'm wiping off the cleanest water, dude on my butt
Speaker 1: hole to clean this water, and then who knows after
Speaker 1: when I washed my face the next day, I'm drying
Speaker 1: my face off with the asshole towel, but it was
Speaker 1: the cleanest version of my asshole. It could have touched
Speaker 1: like that's the logic. I'm sorry. Fuck growth. Yeah, it's important.
Speaker 1: It's important. And be easy on yourself, you know, if
Speaker 1: this is you, okay. Something I think about a lot
Speaker 1: is how let's look at the bird kingdom, the birds
Speaker 1: of the animal kingdom, shall we? And how this is
Speaker 1: going somewhere? I promise the males in many, if not
Speaker 1: most birds species. I'm not a bird expert. My master's
Speaker 1: degree is not in bird sciences. It is been writing,
Speaker 1: and I would never bring that up. But I've watched enough,
Speaker 1: you know, like Life of Birds Specials. But anyway, male
Speaker 1: birds they are the sexier birds. They are the ones
Speaker 1: doing all the dancing and the mating calls and the
Speaker 1: flipping flapping of their wings to attract the females. And
Speaker 1: I think that we as a human society, and this,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is me speaking in a very kind
Speaker 1: of sis heteronormative space here, and I realized, but I
Speaker 1: would like to see a complete inversion of how things
Speaker 1: are where men are just they're doing all the long,
Speaker 1: they're cleaning everything, they're They're hygiene is amazing they're putting
Speaker 1: on the best clothes, they're doing all the dances, they're flipping,
Speaker 1: they're flapping their wings, so to speak. And and I
Speaker 1: can just be a lazy, disgusting sitting in my own
Speaker 1: filth all the time, slob. They're like right talking on
Speaker 1: your phone with the other husband friends. Like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it, bro Jenny again, because she wants she want.
Speaker 1: She doesn't throw away her dirty underwear. She wears it
Speaker 1: every day to work. And I'm just like, you gotta
Speaker 1: get rid of it. Just disgusting. She stinks when she
Speaker 1: gets home. It's like women are so gross, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the society that I think we should move.
Speaker 1: I just want to be gross. And I have so
Speaker 1: much about primping. Men should be putting on makeup and
Speaker 1: and and learning dances. They're learning to all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do bird stuff, creating finally ornamented uh nests
Speaker 1: with different pieces of garbage that you've picked up, that
Speaker 1: are garbage that I've left behind, sucking throw I made
Speaker 1: you this small cove. Those metallic those metallic rice Crispy
Speaker 1: treats rappers, the blue ones. Yeah, those are like that's
Speaker 1: like like the most high level decor. You can have
Speaker 1: our birds next. Yeah, and you know you go, fellas
Speaker 1: start collecting them. Um this fellas just put all your
Speaker 1: trash on your bed and say they get this beautiful
Speaker 1: nest I've built for us. Yeah, We're yeah that that
Speaker 1: is the goal. And on the other hand, I feel
Speaker 1: like the SNL sketch with Pete Davidson be like, okay,
Speaker 1: is the reality is probably the best depiction of modern
Speaker 1: American men that I've seen. Okay, okay, we've just turned
Speaker 1: to gross birds in our bed nests filled with trash,
Speaker 1: can't wait sitting on an egg of our own emotions
Speaker 1: were unwilling to examine. Caitlin, such a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: as always People find you, follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlyn Durante.
Speaker 1: The more followers I have, the more validated I feel
Speaker 1: as a person. So please, straight up, I'd like to
Speaker 1: plug a stand up or it's a it's a kind
Speaker 1: of variety show, but Jamie Loftus and I are doing
Speaker 1: stand up comedy uh in Los Angeles on MA as
Speaker 1: a fundraiser for this organization called water Drop l A
Speaker 1: which does a lot of mutual aid for our unhealthed neighbors.
Speaker 1: So if anyone in l A wants to watch me
Speaker 1: do comedy, watch Jamie Loftus do comedy, We'll be there together.
Speaker 1: The show is mat If you go to Like my Twitter,
Speaker 1: it's it's pinned the like ticket link and stuff is
Speaker 1: pinned to the top, so check that out. That would
Speaker 1: be wonderful. We're trying to help raise money for this
Speaker 1: great organization. You can listen to the Beck Dold Cast
Speaker 1: that that person Jamie Loftus and I co host together.
Speaker 1: We talk about movies. We examine movies through an intersectional
Speaker 1: feminist lens. We says about it. I think that that'll do.
Speaker 1: Just sit That's amazing. And is there a tweet or
Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Apologies of this has been brought up, but you know me,
Speaker 1: and you know how I love to book end something.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about Paddington at the top of
Speaker 1: the show. I'd love to end the show talking about
Speaker 1: Paddington some more. At j the Chow Photo shops Paddington
Speaker 1: into a work of film or television every single day,
Speaker 1: so he just takes a still image of a famous
Speaker 1: movie or TV show he photoshops Paddington into it. He's
Speaker 1: been doing this for over a year now, and it's
Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever seen. And I did tweet
Speaker 1: at Jay asking if they wanted to be my best friend?
Speaker 1: No response, what the fuck? I know? But I still
Speaker 1: appreciate the work that Jay is doing. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a good friend to have, you know. That's also
Speaker 1: just an amazing like testament to you know the fact
Speaker 1: that you're really in it for the Paddington too, that
Speaker 1: you went through with the plug even though they haven't
Speaker 1: gotten back to you, which, yeah, exactly. M hmm. Just
Speaker 1: winning the Bird Case. Wait what I think this is
Speaker 1: the one? You are the one that oh someone tagged
Speaker 1: you into, the one where Paddington is sitting on a
Speaker 1: bench but next to Nathan Lane and Robin Williams from
Speaker 1: the Bird Case. Huh speaking of bird Kate, it's all
Speaker 1: coming Yeah, look at us, Look at us. Miles. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: If you like basketball, check out Miles and Jack Got
Speaker 1: Mad Boost. These are basketball podcast and if you like
Speaker 1: weed in reality TV, check out four Fiance uh, where
Speaker 1: I talk about some tweets that I like. Man, there's
Speaker 1: something about societal dysfunction that brings out the best of Twitter.
Speaker 1: At times, Um New York Times pitch bot at Doug J.
Speaker 1: Balloon tweeted, this is like two real. We wanted to
Speaker 1: understand how the row reversal will affect treatment for things
Speaker 1: like a topic pregnancies, So we talked to four unvaccinated
Speaker 1: firemen at a sparrow in Staten Island. And that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that that that might actually be a thing. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to know. Doug. Uh and then uh
Speaker 1: at Nick Gosling at Nick Underscore Calico tweeted me drunkenly
Speaker 1: throwing my arm around Yoda's net. You know what, you're
Speaker 1: fucking cool my book? Yeah, your little green bass start
Speaker 1: Yoda spilling voodoo Ranger all over himself. Good to drive?
Speaker 1: I am, oh man, the drunk friend who insists they're
Speaker 1: good to drive? What a time? It's Yoda? Come on, Yoda,
Speaker 1: you should be wise enough to know your limits. Man.
Speaker 1: That was a good Yoda impression that Myles. I'm impressed, right,
Speaker 1: you know It's funny. I was having a he didn't
Speaker 1: he had a discussion about frank Cos yesterday with somebody
Speaker 1: he would Yoda and Kermit. Wait did they disagree with that? No?
Speaker 1: I was talking about like Hermit Hermit voices over the years,
Speaker 1: and I had mentioned frank Oz off handily and they
Speaker 1: were dismissive of it. And I said, did you hear
Speaker 1: me say frank Oz? And they're like, sure, I guess.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not even fucking with the voices like that.
Speaker 1: If you don't give it up to frank Oz. See
Speaker 1: your weekend. You're having an actual conversations with people. And
Speaker 1: I would be having the argument with like my six
Speaker 1: year old or four year old where they just disagreed
Speaker 1: and said, no, he's not He's not that voice. I mean,
Speaker 1: full disclosure. I was having this argument at a Disney
Speaker 1: store at the mall with a kid and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: did you hear me? No, I'm just walking with my mom, sir,
Speaker 1: Hey did you? So? Now I gotta go. This kid
Speaker 1: is disrespecting one of the greatest points I've been this place,
Speaker 1: and I'm out. Like it's been a rough time. It's
Speaker 1: been a rough couple of months. Yeah, you took the
Speaker 1: closing of the Disney stores hard and to the point
Speaker 1: that you're still hanging around where they used to be
Speaker 1: in and now they're just it's a It turns out
Speaker 1: this one was an Express so just I got an
Speaker 1: argument with a teenager trying to get ready for their prom.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Undersquirrel. Brian
Speaker 1: John Feminella tweeted optimist the glasses half full, lill pessimist
Speaker 1: the glasses half empty. Excel the glasses January second just
Speaker 1: a real straightforward Excel joke. I don't it's over my head.
Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to put a one one half
Speaker 1: into Excel? They automatically converted to the date anytime you
Speaker 1: put one slash to January second. I get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So I like ones that you kind of
Speaker 1: have to see in front of you to get kind
Speaker 1: of like to read them out loud and then be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't get it. You're fine. You can find me
Speaker 1: doing fun stuff like that on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: we post our episodes. On our footnotes, we're link off
Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's do a track that passed the Jack O'Brien, what's
Speaker 1: what is that test? Last week when we were looking
Speaker 1: at some TikTok videos, but there was this one track
Speaker 1: that was actually pretty good by the artist oh No,
Speaker 1: who if you like beats, is the brother of mad Lib,
Speaker 1: the fucking legend, And this track is called The Whole,
Speaker 1: and it's just a very like gritty kind of like
Speaker 1: spy guitar, spy backbeat feels very spy like. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you I don't know, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: you listen to music in different situations to make this
Speaker 1: time more interesting, do this when you're up to some ship.
Speaker 1: So this is the Whole by oh No. I was
Speaker 1: thinking a spy movie, but you were like, for your
Speaker 1: spying needs, this is this is a good one to have.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I was going back to a time
Speaker 1: when I was like doing illegal things and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: this is not who I am and I don't know
Speaker 1: why I was progressing crappy be microes. All right, well
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