Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty five,
Speaker 1: episode three of Dirt Days Like Guys Day, production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: May fourth. I don't know what what what? Like today's four? Jack?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bro, I forgot happy Birthday four? Oh yeah
Speaker 1: you too, man and yeah his Mercy and Twitch his
Speaker 1: Mercy and Dearth Forever Kimy tales line really hitting different
Speaker 1: these days. My name's Jack O'Brien ak Potatoes O'Brien, and
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grass Miles Gray, the Lord of lancersham a
Speaker 1: k A H d O NoHo just uh you know,
Speaker 1: having a front row seat to this ship show. We
Speaker 1: call them poppy folks. We've got some talking to smooth well, Miles,
Speaker 1: You're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: a hilarious and brilliant comedy writer and podcast host who
Speaker 1: you know from his podcast Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, producing and
Speaker 1: hosting one hundred and fifty episodes of something called the
Speaker 1: Cracked podcast, creating the Bison emoji, and from being a
Speaker 1: four time Jeopardy champion. It's Alex motherfucking what's up. Its
Speaker 1: great to be back. Thank you guys man. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was great to have you. Good to see you. You know,
Speaker 1: we were telling our new producers back in Tricia before
Speaker 1: we started rolling, just like you know, you that like
Speaker 1: to avoid eye contact, you know, maybe turn off their
Speaker 1: zoom cameras, because yeah, Donnie Rickles coming through and he uh,
Speaker 1: he comes in hot and takes no prisoners. And then
Speaker 1: you came in. We were like, it's like, it's the
Speaker 1: nicest person I've ever met. When your camera turned on
Speaker 1: in the zoom cute you're you were already in the
Speaker 1: ear to ear grin and I was like, damn it
Speaker 1: a mystery, blew it man, what a big you it. Also,
Speaker 1: I was looking at my browser at just something funny,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know that when the zoom turned on,
Speaker 1: it would pop in front of my browser like you're
Speaker 1: just suddenly it's like diving off a high dive or something.
Speaker 1: You're just suddenly in the meeting. It's great. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And I started roasting people and you know, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: they're crying now, but like, you know, we warned them
Speaker 1: and I feel like it was good, good for everyone.
Speaker 1: How's how's north cac I've moved him in Brooklyn? Now Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: New York? Okay, New Yorkers in the building. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: how long you been in New York? Now, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell from my very Brooklyn aspect I had.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that here like seven months or so. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went and saw cherry blossoms and the botanic cart
Speaker 1: in this weekend. That's how it's goings o. So y'all
Speaker 1: living on the fucking edge. It sounds like, yes, I've
Speaker 1: got blossoms. He uh? Is that people have got blossoms
Speaker 1: over here? Yeah? Is that? Is that? How you like?
Speaker 1: There was just a Brooklyn guy there with cherry blossoms
Speaker 1: who was waiting over Yeah, or is a guy who
Speaker 1: manages a group of blossom impersonators alright? Also also a
Speaker 1: blossom thing. So everybody denim bucket hats with the front
Speaker 1: flipped up like that? What do you want? Kind of timeless?
Speaker 1: Her style was kind of timeless, really baggy. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's always like on the verge of coming back,
Speaker 1: and no matter when you watch it, even if it's
Speaker 1: at a point where it's not back, it's she still
Speaker 1: pulls it off. And I guarantee you you go to
Speaker 1: like a semi hit party and layer in New York,
Speaker 1: there will be one person dressed like Blossom. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just that's just part of the texture of of it.
Speaker 1: Like one of these parties is like, oh there's there. Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all lean into the nineties thing, but doing it authentically
Speaker 1: we see. Yeah, yeah, totally all the parties. I go to, Ye,
Speaker 1: that's true. The party, um the other Wednesday, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the people dressed. I noticed how people dressed and it
Speaker 1: was like that Jack these parties. I go to the
Speaker 1: guy everything Blossom impersonators six her best friend six six
Speaker 1: six six impersonators. Okay, this is this place has everything, uh,
Speaker 1: and a guy who kind of looks like Stefan or Kell.
Speaker 1: Also he's I was saying, you were doing a good
Speaker 1: Stefan impression. There isn't that the Bill Hitter character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's ye picked it up. Anyways, Alex, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about yeah, I mean this
Speaker 1: happened two nights ago. But the leaked road decision, we're
Speaker 1: gonna just be processing that. We are recording that's the
Speaker 1: day after it was leaked, and still processing it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it feels like it's, you know, as
Speaker 1: bad as we thought. I'm pretty piste off. And so
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. We'll talk about some mutual
Speaker 1: aid resources, and we'll ask the important question do Oscar
Speaker 1: winners really live longer than losers? Not just loser, but
Speaker 1: people who don't win a Uscar, which basically I think
Speaker 1: we can admit that, like all of us who have
Speaker 1: not won an Oscar are fucking losers just period. Right.
Speaker 1: I want a useless gold statue. That's that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything anymore. Yeah, Like we all have an empty space
Speaker 1: on a shelf. That's that times. Yeah, and we just
Speaker 1: look at it sadly. Have a question for you know,
Speaker 1: for you guys, did you ever in your mind think
Speaker 1: one day I might get an Oscar? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I might, I might be. I might funk around and
Speaker 1: be evolved with something that gets me an Oscar, still
Speaker 1: still leaving the door open miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think everyone needs to have that just in their in
Speaker 1: their heart. You know, I did. I did a high
Speaker 1: school theater, and I feel like that was just an
Speaker 1: immediate go to for adults talking to me, and it
Speaker 1: probably happens to everyone whoever does high school theater. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta part in one play one time. Next stop
Speaker 1: the oscars, and like they don't don't do that, adults,
Speaker 1: you don't get, like that's not really how it works.
Speaker 1: The next is probably fourteen years of soul crushing community
Speaker 1: black box theater. That's how That's what makes you stronger
Speaker 1: and ready for the big stage. But yeah, the I
Speaker 1: do I feel I don't know. I guess we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it. But I just feel like the whole mentality
Speaker 1: around Oscars being like, well, that's the whole to, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. You could either win an oscar or become president.
Speaker 1: Those are like the main things in America. It's probably unhealthy,
Speaker 1: especially given it's it's go to Harvard, get an oscar,
Speaker 1: or be the president. Yeah, I feel like those are
Speaker 1: the three things. Like, no matter you hear some version
Speaker 1: of that all three Obama oh ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Has he want an Oscar. I feel like,
Speaker 1: who gives a ship gives I've moved, I'm I'm in
Speaker 1: a different I'm in a different wave left me. But
Speaker 1: you know, trust in progress. I do like the idea
Speaker 1: of any American president trying to play a different character
Speaker 1: in a movie. It's just so distracting right right, Like
Speaker 1: they're they're so burned into your heads they can't no
Speaker 1: matter how. A reverse Reagan where somebody like wins the
Speaker 1: presidency and then it's like, I actually I'm launching a
Speaker 1: acting career, like what where I'll being beaten? Movie is
Speaker 1: opposite a chimp? And then you want to be one
Speaker 1: of the most powerful people on the planet to launch
Speaker 1: a fucking to leverage a paramount plus streaming show. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah yeah. Like if if you offer that
Speaker 1: to Trump right now, I bet he would take it.
Speaker 1: Like if you were just like, actually, we think you
Speaker 1: might be one of our great actors and entertainers. You
Speaker 1: don't have to put up with this presidency ship anymore,
Speaker 1: you don't have to pretend to like the people that
Speaker 1: voted for you. I think he would he would be
Speaker 1: in swap him out in that fucking Stallone thing about
Speaker 1: the you know, the mobster who's got to rebuild an empire,
Speaker 1: like this is perfect for you man. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: one of these really cool productions. We have these new
Speaker 1: cameras that are actually built into a lot of people's
Speaker 1: classes and eyeballs so that acting can be really natural.
Speaker 1: So don't please, don't, you know, be dissuaded by the
Speaker 1: lack of production infrastructure. This is a TV show. Now
Speaker 1: go say your lines in this dark room. I think
Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting outside of the box solution to
Speaker 1: the fact that he could probably has over fifty chance
Speaker 1: of being the next president again is just launch a
Speaker 1: movie career and put him in movies that are all
Speaker 1: like scheduled to come out that year. So he's like,
Speaker 1: I just have a really busy promotion campaign and then
Speaker 1: he doesn't run, and then we all just don't go
Speaker 1: see his movies, and Hollywood has done something good for
Speaker 1: once perfect Perfect. Yeah, to talk about everything to them,
Speaker 1: I think we're good. Everything intersects with that idea, so
Speaker 1: we don't need to talk about anything. If we do that,
Speaker 1: then everything else is solved. Okay, al right, before we
Speaker 1: get to any of that ship, Alex, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guess, what is something from your search history.
Speaker 1: So I and I cheated a little bit because by
Speaker 1: first several are all related to this Supreme Court case
Speaker 1: and and abortion everything else. But like the first one
Speaker 1: before that is the name fairly set because I was like,
Speaker 1: I learned about this to make my pack guts. But
Speaker 1: it's the only cat that has ever been sent to space.
Speaker 1: It was sent by the French space program in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three. They sent a cat into space for like
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and her name was Felicet. France is true
Speaker 1: to the brand. They are like, what can we do?
Speaker 1: What can we do with this? When did they sunder
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three day? And it was it was when
Speaker 1: like it was right after the Russians sent a dog
Speaker 1: in the US was sending primates and so we were
Speaker 1: still figuring out like how mammals react to space, and
Speaker 1: so the French sent rats and then they sent a cat.
Speaker 1: M rats then cats, okay, and did they did the cat?
Speaker 1: Did we find out? How how it did? Did it
Speaker 1: come back? Was it a celebrity? It's like it's good
Speaker 1: and bad. It's the cat came back successfully. And then
Speaker 1: they did like surgery on the cat to study and
Speaker 1: then the cat died of the surgery. Oh sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: that's a bummer, but it's fun that like a cute
Speaker 1: tuxedo cat went to space. Hey, early history is all
Speaker 1: about just being like, I don't know, open it up
Speaker 1: and see what's inside. Yeah, all right, I guess that's
Speaker 1: the information you had back then, so you is part
Speaker 1: of adding to that data set. They kept ashing inside
Speaker 1: the cat because the surgeons were smoking the whole time, presumably,
Speaker 1: and that that didn't help with the scientific process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it died of an infection caused by stray. Bret felt
Speaker 1: that fell into the operating wound. Right. A team of
Speaker 1: surgeons and one accordion player worked round the clock to
Speaker 1: try to save it around the clock. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated? I it's I know this has
Speaker 1: come up, but the idea that COVID is over it's overrated.
Speaker 1: I got it. I got it a little over a
Speaker 1: month ago, and it was not fun and a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of times I would tell people close to
Speaker 1: me like, hey, I have COVID and they would be
Speaker 1: like me too, Like it's just going on. You don't
Speaker 1: say shit, it's so so just everybody be careful, I know,
Speaker 1: that's like dark news. But be careful, you know, it's not.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's important that people don't
Speaker 1: can I acknowledge that there it very much still is
Speaker 1: the possibility of getting infected with COVID that that has
Speaker 1: not changed at all. It's are The only thing is
Speaker 1: like the sort of politician and like media informed attitudes
Speaker 1: that we're seeing. That's like, yeah, man, look now that
Speaker 1: everything's over, like for fucking who, like her majesty had
Speaker 1: it a couple of weeks ago. I know so many
Speaker 1: people too that I'm like, I'm I'm not like, my
Speaker 1: anecdotal data sets of knowing with infections are up or
Speaker 1: down or not changing. So I think that's for sure,
Speaker 1: it's pretty spot on. Yeah, but it's not on the
Speaker 1: news anymore. It's not Yeah, it's just on social media
Speaker 1: we find out, I think because to really this is
Speaker 1: the thing to talk about it, you have to acknowledge
Speaker 1: the humanity of the pandemic. And if you do that,
Speaker 1: then you're in everly going to start talking about inequality
Speaker 1: again and wages and who was able to whether not
Speaker 1: working or lockdowns happening, or who works in a place
Speaker 1: where the fucking rules are so lax that it's just
Speaker 1: a you know, an infection vector from hell. They and
Speaker 1: they don't want to do that because look what happened,
Speaker 1: like it it We we got the thing where people
Speaker 1: were leaving Jones, like all the wages are going up
Speaker 1: and that's all we've got inflation. We're like, no, asshole,
Speaker 1: we're getting your breedy, greedy faced version of what you
Speaker 1: think is going on. Mm hmm. Yeah. Doesn't the fact
Speaker 1: that the corporations that drove a lot of the inflation
Speaker 1: head record profits that the nothing nothing to see there,
Speaker 1: just it was natural invisible handship. And don't pay attention
Speaker 1: to the invisible hand because it's invisible. You can't see it,
Speaker 1: and it works perfectly every time. So just trust it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean, think of how much we've we've buy again,
Speaker 1: when you don't have a pandemic, Now, nobody's a hero, right.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing too. You don't have to acknowledge
Speaker 1: anyone's sacrifice if there's not a pandemic. So it's very
Speaker 1: convenient to completely just take all that ship out of
Speaker 1: the discourse because that's not what we're talking about anymore.
Speaker 1: We're talking about that it's over and if people get it,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, you should have wore a
Speaker 1: mask or whatever. Everyone's gonna get it, Like who cares?
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, maybe we're still learning about long COVID.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But also we don't have money for
Speaker 1: the pandemic response. Like all of it looks not great. Still,
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned yesterday, I do bribe the doctors
Speaker 1: when I take a COVID tests to just make sure
Speaker 1: that it comes back negative. So I still haven't had it.
Speaker 1: But you know, like that's that's just what It's just
Speaker 1: my strategy. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, when you show it,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I just got my COVID tests and
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? It says negative? Plus
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's how negative. I was negative.
Speaker 1: Newstry Service. We've never seen some ship like this. I'm like, Jack,
Speaker 1: I don't know how this helps here. I'm extra negative.
Speaker 1: All right, what is something you think is underrated? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This this one is just cool. Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson
Speaker 1: is doing great. Yeah, he turned eighty nine last week
Speaker 1: and he put out a new album on his birthday
Speaker 1: and it's great. It's called a Beautiful Life. It's very
Speaker 1: good and he's just generally always been on the right
Speaker 1: side of most things. As far as I know. He's great,
Speaker 1: really into it. He is one of the like musicians
Speaker 1: that my parents listened to all the time that still
Speaker 1: holds up for me. And there, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot that probably the fact that my parents listened to
Speaker 1: them all the time make me associate with like being
Speaker 1: nerds like Billy Joel. Maybe that's not fair. And you know,
Speaker 1: Anita Baker at the time, I did not give him
Speaker 1: a fair shake because I was just like, come on,
Speaker 1: and this is so slow. Put on Axl Rose, he
Speaker 1: will be cool forever, And that wasn't the case. But
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson, I always liked his voice even back then,
Speaker 1: and he stays stays cool. What a what a voice?
Speaker 1: Guy stays cool? Huh. And he's to joint in the
Speaker 1: White House. He did Yeah with Jimmy Carter's son. It's great.
Speaker 1: So that's fun. I and I missed country music completely
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Like I've only started getting
Speaker 1: into it in the last couple of years, so I
Speaker 1: have no associations with it. Really, I'm just like fresh
Speaker 1: and it feels great. He's very cool. He has like
Speaker 1: the way he sings. He'll do interesting phrasing, kind of
Speaker 1: like Sinatra. If that helps people on board. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's great, Yeah, yeah, really good. I used to as
Speaker 1: a kid, I used to think him and George Carlmon
Speaker 1: were the same person. Oh that's Carl yeah, because I
Speaker 1: was like, these are white guys with long hair, yeah,
Speaker 1: and like white beards and like yeah, And I was again,
Speaker 1: this was me not even hearing a single. Like my
Speaker 1: visual thing was like, oh he's wearing a headman today.
Speaker 1: Oh he's not right. And then I'm like, as I
Speaker 1: got older, I'm like, they are not saper so bad
Speaker 1: fuck at all. But I remember that very early on.
Speaker 1: I was confused when I saw the two with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have kind of the same head shape, like kind
Speaker 1: of a square head to me, and the same facial hair.
Speaker 1: And I think it's just a little bit of gleaming
Speaker 1: long hair in the back. That was enough to say
Speaker 1: as a four year old be like, and that is
Speaker 1: the same person. And I know everything about popular culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Willie Nelson's hair I always associate with like
Speaker 1: being in the pigtail braids. The fact that he was
Speaker 1: able to pull that off and still just be a
Speaker 1: complete icon. Is is pretty cool. He got Texas on
Speaker 1: board with that, the state of Texas, you know fast,
Speaker 1: but they did for him. Yeah, but like I guess
Speaker 1: we're doing this now. Yeah, like with yeah reminds of
Speaker 1: like this is a very specific reference. But Jack Peterson
Speaker 1: on the Braves was wearing like pearls like when he
Speaker 1: played baseball, and I was like, look at all these
Speaker 1: brave spans and men coming out with their pearls, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, the power of sports. It's okay because
Speaker 1: he does it. Yeah, him straight, him hit home run.
Speaker 1: I'm now where pearl also, man, he should he should
Speaker 1: push it like this year when he's in the postseason,
Speaker 1: he should just like have more accessories, just keep accessorizing
Speaker 1: until the breaking point right to like every man in
Speaker 1: George is weighed down by an insurmountable amount of jewelry.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about the Carter White House.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it a little bit on
Speaker 1: yesterday's episode, which I have mostly blacked out, but the um,
Speaker 1: we can't go back, we can't go back. The like
Speaker 1: the fact that The New York Times is addressing, you know,
Speaker 1: centrist democrat in power as being like, Wow, there's just
Speaker 1: a mood issue that nobody can white pinpoint. And the
Speaker 1: fact that that was followed by like just twelve years
Speaker 1: of like hardcore republicanism in the mainstream worries me a
Speaker 1: little bit that we're like back back at that point
Speaker 1: where they're like, I don't know, we're we're out of
Speaker 1: answers here, folks. I guess we turned it over to them.
Speaker 1: Hot potato. There you go, fun that up there, take it.
Speaker 1: And and I feel like that whole thing is sort
Speaker 1: of like the response to inflation going up or something else,
Speaker 1: like people are like, Oh, I guess this is just
Speaker 1: how people feel. And I don't know, look at the context, man,
Speaker 1: like he's exclusively been president during a global pandemic like
Speaker 1: that will impact people's mood a little. That's not his
Speaker 1: fault necessarily, Yeah, And I think the other part just
Speaker 1: sort of like what could it be. Do we we
Speaker 1: point at the little breadcrumbs that fell out of his
Speaker 1: jacket pocket that were legislative winds and hope that's enough,
Speaker 1: or do we dangle a bunch of exist untual threats
Speaker 1: in front of them to get them to fucking vote
Speaker 1: and it looks like the ladder right now. Yeah, so well,
Speaker 1: I guess what we'll be talking about that in a moment.
Speaker 1: So let's take a break, gird yourself, and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back. And on Monday night, Two
Speaker 1: Nights Go, Politico published a leaked road decision that suggests
Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court is about to overturn Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade and the opinion it really lays the foundation for
Speaker 1: like a white Christian theocracy where like abortion, contraception, con
Speaker 1: sexual sex acts are all able to be policed at
Speaker 1: a national level and like banned at a national level.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's kind of it's as bad as we thought.
Speaker 1: I think, is kind of and and it's infuriating that
Speaker 1: we're at this place and people are losing the right
Speaker 1: to have autonomy over their own own body. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: reading like just parts of that opinion from Alito, like
Speaker 1: he's referencing this guy, Sir Matthew Hale, that a lot
Speaker 1: of people have pointed out is an English jurist from
Speaker 1: the seventeenth century whose fucking musings like laid the foundation
Speaker 1: for people to normalize things like marital rape, and like
Speaker 1: he was regularly like, oh, these people, these women are
Speaker 1: witches and need to be burned. He's taking that guy's
Speaker 1: ideology and sort of using that too underline or bolster
Speaker 1: his you know, his argument in terms of overturning row.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's true all of this. It's not just
Speaker 1: abortion that's at stake. This is this like, there are
Speaker 1: many things they've articulated that they want to go after.
Speaker 1: And of course this all goes hand in hand with
Speaker 1: your privacy because now again the government will be if
Speaker 1: you know, if at the momentum it's going if we're
Speaker 1: cutting off contraception, they're knowing when you're having sex and
Speaker 1: how you're having sex with who you're having sex. That's
Speaker 1: now part of what the government needs to look out
Speaker 1: for and respond to. And it's it's so fucking frightening
Speaker 1: to look at things we thought were rights and in
Speaker 1: the you know, in the middle of the night, a
Speaker 1: political leak and then they're saying, oh, hey, we're in
Speaker 1: the dark ages again, right the Yeah, And like my
Speaker 1: head spends in so many ways because I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: the respect. I think that's the thing that I'm like
Speaker 1: really bracing myself for. It is like, what is the
Speaker 1: terrible completely unaware, can't read the room. Response going to
Speaker 1: be from Democrats like in terms of what they think
Speaker 1: how they either they're either going to leverage this as
Speaker 1: a way to motivate people to vote without actually looking
Speaker 1: at the violence that is in front of people and
Speaker 1: say like, this is why you gotta We're already hearing
Speaker 1: that this is why you gotta vote. I think that's
Speaker 1: first statement. This is this is on the voters to
Speaker 1: elect more then what the funk do y'all do? Right?
Speaker 1: What do y'all do if this if the if if
Speaker 1: the fucking reproductive rights are stripped away, and you say, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all got to do something about that, then what the
Speaker 1: why do we need you? Then this goes back to
Speaker 1: the fact that this the government is completely incapable of
Speaker 1: protecting people, absolutely incapable and unwilling. That's how this system
Speaker 1: is built. It's not built to protect anybody except for
Speaker 1: the wealthiest people. And so I don't know how many
Speaker 1: times we have to go through this example of like, oh, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you got the right to vote. Man, I don't know
Speaker 1: fun it. Maybe you don't. Hey man, we need to
Speaker 1: do something about you know, police violence, nam not Oh
Speaker 1: we gotta do something about all these transphobic bills. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I figure it out on your own.
Speaker 1: So we're left in a position like your house is
Speaker 1: on fire, you call the fucking firefighters, and then when
Speaker 1: they show up, they're like, yeah, man, we got some
Speaker 1: ship in the truck. You can handle that, man, because
Speaker 1: that's not what we do. Huh. That's the feeling I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people have right now. Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I see them say it's tough, like be sure
Speaker 1: to vote, and I'm like, okay, Like what is do
Speaker 1: you do? You have a job you do because like,
Speaker 1: if this is my job, can you edit my podcast
Speaker 1: and pick up my groceries and like sweep and like
Speaker 1: the things I have to do here, Like please lean
Speaker 1: on Joe Mansion for you if you need that, because
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk y'all are doing and
Speaker 1: be like hey Joe, no you're not feeling it all right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see you later. Like where's the leadership where that's
Speaker 1: where you hear all Like with all these other presidents,
Speaker 1: you hear about these monumental moments and all the fucking
Speaker 1: ship that had to happen behind the scenes. To like
Speaker 1: get some semblance civil rights or whatever. I feel like
Speaker 1: none of that ship is happening. The fact that Biden
Speaker 1: felt comfortable coming out and saying we need to vote
Speaker 1: like an elect officials like it is so like, I
Speaker 1: I can't believe that that is not a point that
Speaker 1: people are making. More to the point that he feels
Speaker 1: like ashamed to say some ship like that, because the
Speaker 1: really insidious thing is that this is their model, is
Speaker 1: having the Republicans do ship that like threatens our ability
Speaker 1: to live in a free society and then you scare
Speaker 1: people into voting. Because if their model was to actually
Speaker 1: look out for the people as opposed to, you know,
Speaker 1: the corporate interests that kind of get them elected, they
Speaker 1: would be doing more proactive things. But it's like it
Speaker 1: makes sense from a purely like cynical and power dynamics
Speaker 1: perspective for them to sit back, let them do some
Speaker 1: ship that like is fun to mentally like turning America
Speaker 1: into an authoritarian like society and then just be the
Speaker 1: only alternative like that that seems to be their model
Speaker 1: at this point is like being the other guy while
Speaker 1: the country yo yo is back and forth between a
Speaker 1: straight up authoritarian hate group that comes to power over
Speaker 1: half the time, and then the ineffectual Democrats who can
Speaker 1: whose continued existence is based on like selling itself as
Speaker 1: the other guys without doing anything. It's just like we
Speaker 1: have to the psychotically bat alternative and the bat alternative
Speaker 1: and like that's the battle alternative obviously benefits from that.
Speaker 1: And like how are we in a position where they
Speaker 1: feel like what he said in his statement is basically
Speaker 1: so you better vote like that so our systems, yea,
Speaker 1: our system, our plan is working. This is our strategy
Speaker 1: to scare you into voting for us, even though we
Speaker 1: don't do ship. We just don't put your safety and
Speaker 1: freedom at risk. Yeah, and the and and also that
Speaker 1: Politico stuff, like they have the whole first draft or
Speaker 1: whatever drafted is of what Alito wrote in you know
Speaker 1: where every race these things, and there was really shocking
Speaker 1: stuff in it if you look at it, like I
Speaker 1: hope Democrats really go after everything in it. Like at
Speaker 1: one point he compares he uses language that compares the
Speaker 1: road decision to plus e versus Ferguson that upheld segregation,
Speaker 1: and he compares it to Kamatsu that upheld in turning
Speaker 1: Japanese Americans in World War Two, like like there's no
Speaker 1: they went all the way, there's no like thing to
Speaker 1: wait for that they're going to do next. That's awful
Speaker 1: other than tearing down more things like Democrats can go ahead,
Speaker 1: they have the green light to fight, like go for it.
Speaker 1: But they're and they're not you. That's the funked up
Speaker 1: part because we've seen every we've seen them, yet we've
Speaker 1: seen I mean, this is the thing I'm wondering when
Speaker 1: the plurality of American people actually understand that these people
Speaker 1: are not going to do ship. They're going to fuck in.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a fucking text in like six hours
Speaker 1: with Nancy Pelosi's face on it being like I need
Speaker 1: four teen bucks. Where the funk you at abortion rights
Speaker 1: are at risk? Where fuck you come out your fucking
Speaker 1: pockets and do something. You're not doing shit. All you
Speaker 1: do is posture, and then you keep presenting this party
Speaker 1: merely as a pause button on fascism. You're not you're
Speaker 1: not rewinding ship, you're not taking us forward. You just
Speaker 1: hit pause. That's all you fucking do. Republicans, they're like
Speaker 1: fashions of fascists of let's fucking go autocracy. We on this.
Speaker 1: Then the Democrats coming like, don't you want to hit
Speaker 1: pause on this? We're here and we're here to hit
Speaker 1: pause on it. Don't expect us to right the wrongs
Speaker 1: or any fucking anything to do with that, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they're still there a branch
Speaker 1: off the same fucking tree as Republicans. They just grow
Speaker 1: on the left side of the fucking tree, and that
Speaker 1: tree drinks water directly from corporations and moneyed interests. Who
Speaker 1: are the people that these these politicians are beholding too.
Speaker 1: They're not beholden to the voters. If they were, when
Speaker 1: we're out there in the streets being like, man, funck this,
Speaker 1: they would be like, oh ship, these these people. These
Speaker 1: people vote me in or out rather than no, there's
Speaker 1: actually these very wealthy people who vote me in or
Speaker 1: out based on the number of put fucking at media
Speaker 1: advis they do the fucking oppo research they might do
Speaker 1: on me, or maybe on a someone who's trying to
Speaker 1: primary me or someone who's an opponent. There's so many
Speaker 1: other dynamics there that it's these people don't go into
Speaker 1: fucking service thinking how am I going to help my constituents?
Speaker 1: Now there are people who are you know a little
Speaker 1: bit more have their ship together, but that's they're in
Speaker 1: such a minority that we're all, we're only going to
Speaker 1: see these people capitulate over and over to the like
Speaker 1: not the people. And I don't know how many times
Speaker 1: have to keep seeing that to say, if it's not them,
Speaker 1: then who is it going to be? Because I think
Speaker 1: it's good. I think it's us, because it's damn sure
Speaker 1: not them that's helping us out right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: and Jack have been the article about this. They were like,
Speaker 1: even if a massive popular uprising on this issue allows
Speaker 1: Democrats to hold onto the Senate unless they abolish the
Speaker 1: filibuster rule, a law protecting abortion access has no chance.
Speaker 1: What can they promise us tomorrow that they can't deliver today?
Speaker 1: What that's what can they What are they dangling they're
Speaker 1: in power, like well, yeah, we're we're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: so somehow mansion is gonna be cool and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be like ten ten more votes. Like it's it's not
Speaker 1: a feasible solution at this point. And with these like
Speaker 1: mainly mainstream Democrats, because there are people like Justice Democrats
Speaker 1: and other ones who are doing well, but with the
Speaker 1: main street dumb mainstream Democrats mainly saying, hey, make sure
Speaker 1: to vote, like we Obama ran non codifying row as
Speaker 1: law and we elected him twice, and Biden in the
Speaker 1: primary study would codify rows law, and we elected him
Speaker 1: by seven million votes. Like they're pointing to the one
Speaker 1: thing that is kind of going okay, like the voting
Speaker 1: that humans are doing against that being repressed, and in
Speaker 1: spite of other things, is like one of the few
Speaker 1: parts that we're doing a good job of. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's very weird to be like that's the solution when
Speaker 1: it's all the other structural things that need fixing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I and I think a lot of people who begrudgling
Speaker 1: you vote for Democrats really are trying to We're at
Speaker 1: a crossroads, like we can't keep getting played like this
Speaker 1: because people die all the time because of them, with
Speaker 1: their fucking duplicity, and this is a it's it. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what it's going to take, but it's hard
Speaker 1: to believe that the Democrats could deliver a thing. I
Speaker 1: know they all got together outside the steps of the
Speaker 1: capital and their leaf. Oh you this is Chuck Schumers
Speaker 1: like you you awoke in the giant the fun's been
Speaker 1: doing with what? Because kristin cinem already said she's she
Speaker 1: wants to respect the filibuster. So there there that goes,
Speaker 1: So now what and stop dangling bullshit in front of people,
Speaker 1: because this is I think this is the really I
Speaker 1: It's like every crisis we have ship gets realer for
Speaker 1: different segments of America. And this is a very broad one.
Speaker 1: Now some people will know what fucking time it is.
Speaker 1: Other people can continue to live in to live in
Speaker 1: their comfort, because let's be real, this is really gonna
Speaker 1: affect poor, poor people, especially poor women of color. And
Speaker 1: if this was anything about being pro life or whatever,
Speaker 1: you'd actually talk about the mortality of people giving birth
Speaker 1: and how you should what happens there that people are
Speaker 1: more likely to die in childbirth than someone who's getting
Speaker 1: an abortion, like if you're just putting it side by
Speaker 1: side and other demographic factors weren't. But again, because that's
Speaker 1: not what this is about. It's just all about creating
Speaker 1: the most amount of cruelty to bring in this fucking
Speaker 1: eth Christian ethno state that they love and we're meant
Speaker 1: to be like, okay, well what do we do and
Speaker 1: a part of me is looking at I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're already living in a country where the Conservatives controlled everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what's the fucking difference, right, honestly that the speakers
Speaker 1: different and then you're not doing ship just so and
Speaker 1: go to the Senate and fucking die and not we're
Speaker 1: not passing anything. They really have a problem here that
Speaker 1: they have to be able to articulate to say this
Speaker 1: is how it's going to be different. But I don't
Speaker 1: think they can because this is all structurally just part
Speaker 1: of how politics work in the United States. There's there
Speaker 1: there has to be so much substantive change, like especially
Speaker 1: around money and politics before you can even begin to
Speaker 1: have some kind of philosophical shift on how policies made
Speaker 1: that y's for me, I'm like, you know what, I'd
Speaker 1: rather not put all my energy into being angry at
Speaker 1: these fucking clowns who do the same ship every time,
Speaker 1: and I'm what the funk the clowns clound it up again,
Speaker 1: and I'd rather put my energy and like, you know what,
Speaker 1: how the funk do we figure this out for each other?
Speaker 1: Because I'm tired of leaning on them. I'm I'm much
Speaker 1: more interested in how as communities we can look out
Speaker 1: for each other because at least those people, I feel
Speaker 1: more beholden to my neighbor or someone in my community
Speaker 1: than some abstraction in a suit talking to me with
Speaker 1: a D next to their name in parentheses on a
Speaker 1: TV screen. Yeah right, the sentiment that, like people, I've
Speaker 1: heard people you know, obviously this is like truly horrifying,
Speaker 1: and I don't begrudge anyone being outrage and surprised by this,
Speaker 1: But like the the idea that, like the the idea
Speaker 1: that a bunch of old religious extremists can like take
Speaker 1: away the rights of a majority of people to bodily autonomy,
Speaker 1: Like we live in a society with six times the
Speaker 1: imprisonment rate of black people than prohibition to Arara, South Africa.
Speaker 1: Like we are living in an unjust society that abuses
Speaker 1: the rights and bodies and destroys the lives of the
Speaker 1: poor in order to conserve like very weird, very white supremacist,
Speaker 1: very like religious extremist values, Like this is not new,
Speaker 1: and like that's that is what we that is our society,
Speaker 1: and so like we I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 1: that that is not that can't that can't be surprising
Speaker 1: to us anymore, Like this is a police state that
Speaker 1: governs at the whims of a very few, very wealthy people. Basically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially with the Supreme Court as a institution, it needs
Speaker 1: to either be like fully reformed or abolished or something else,
Speaker 1: like we we kind of have nine pops or kings
Speaker 1: or something. You can just redo the whole government and
Speaker 1: the whole legal system anytime they want to, and they
Speaker 1: in particular people want history out. There's a great book
Speaker 1: by Ian Millheiser. It's called Injustices and the the basic
Speaker 1: argument is that the Supreme Court has only done anything
Speaker 1: for people for like twenty five years, the warrant courts
Speaker 1: and the Briger courts in the sixties and seventies, which
Speaker 1: and one of the things they did was the road decision.
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's mostly made life worse for
Speaker 1: humans in the country and better for corporations and government power.
Speaker 1: But that's pretty much all it's done across its whole history.
Speaker 1: And then like there's a blip where they did Brown
Speaker 1: versus Board, and they did Row and they did the
Speaker 1: things were excited about. But that's a real outlier historically. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like we we don't need a
Speaker 1: separate governmental wing to do things for corporations. They already
Speaker 1: got all the power. I think we're think we're covered there.
Speaker 1: It's like Marvel movies enough, you know, plenty we've seen it. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just feel like more, you know, we have to
Speaker 1: be real about what Congress and a president can deliver
Speaker 1: when their interests have nothing to do with what normal
Speaker 1: working people, nonwealthy people like, when it's completely disconnected from
Speaker 1: that reality because they what we're like, what we experience
Speaker 1: is like fuck it, like as if Congress is trying
Speaker 1: to do remote surgery like on the planet from three
Speaker 1: planets away, like on one person, Like that's how many
Speaker 1: layers removed they are from the thing they're working on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it shows more and more in the absurdity of
Speaker 1: it only becomes clear and clear, and I think, and
Speaker 1: I get why people feel so anstrad and why the
Speaker 1: vibes are bad, because we're in a situation where we're like,
Speaker 1: how the funk up? Like that what this this? This
Speaker 1: this isn't doing shit at all, and we're and I
Speaker 1: think we're just not at a point where more like
Speaker 1: it's normal to articulate this is fucking broken and it
Speaker 1: and it's not where as it is. It's not going
Speaker 1: to work without a dramatic shift. And because it requires
Speaker 1: such a dramatic shift, the powers that be are not
Speaker 1: able to articulate that they're too entrenced in it to
Speaker 1: be able to say we're the fucking problem. So it's
Speaker 1: really incumbent again on us to figure out what the
Speaker 1: funk we need to do as communities, as people collectively
Speaker 1: to be able to ensure the kinds of safeties and
Speaker 1: outcomes that we believe we are we are owed as people,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, there is a lot that the federal
Speaker 1: government can do, but on a certain level, we have
Speaker 1: to begin to find a way where we can say, look,
Speaker 1: no matter what's happening there, like, we can find a
Speaker 1: way to make this work for each other. And I'm
Speaker 1: much more interested in those kinds of solutions than me
Speaker 1: being like, you know, let's go to Steve Karnaki at
Speaker 1: the fucking electoral map and see whether the vote counts
Speaker 1: come in. Right, that's all spectacle, and it's and and
Speaker 1: every time we get all caught up in that ship,
Speaker 1: people are losing their lives to the police, to bigoted,
Speaker 1: homophobic people two having to find some other alternative to
Speaker 1: reproductive care. And yeah, it's it's it's it's just it's demoralizing,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just to say, like, this is the
Speaker 1: country that we live in, demoralizing by by design, I think. Yea. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: speaking of like alternatives, producers back in Tricia put together
Speaker 1: a list of various you know, mutual aids organizations that
Speaker 1: we're gonna put in the footnotes. There's also a point
Speaker 1: I'm saying made a lot of places that's also when
Speaker 1: the research is just the medical improvements of basically medication
Speaker 1: abortions by mail for people who aren't able to travel
Speaker 1: or take off work, you know, home abortions are now
Speaker 1: very safe and also safe people who need abortions from
Speaker 1: going to a clinic facing protesters. So there are organizations
Speaker 1: like plans see hey Jane, Abortion on Demand that can
Speaker 1: offer more information about that, and we'll link off to
Speaker 1: that as well. And then there's a list of funds
Speaker 1: in each of the twenty states that are most likely
Speaker 1: to enact to ban on abortion. There's mutual aid funds
Speaker 1: and states where access to abortion is most at risk,
Speaker 1: and then figure out where there are protests near you.
Speaker 1: There's one being organized at the Supreme Court. There's also
Speaker 1: fully Square in Manhattan, the Texas Capital US Courthouse in
Speaker 1: l A, and many other towns and cities. So look
Speaker 1: up what's happening near you. And in addition to being
Speaker 1: able to like show up and show your support physically,
Speaker 1: you know, you might meet people who are also trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what the funk we do from here.
Speaker 1: But we'll we'll have more of that in the footnotes
Speaker 1: and also in trending episodes. But yeah, I think public
Speaker 1: outcry is the only the one thing we have right now.
Speaker 1: This is a draft. I don't know, maybe someone one
Speaker 1: justice decides to do go the other way, but I'm
Speaker 1: not counting. I don't know. I mean, I'm I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very pessimistic at the moment, just because I'm
Speaker 1: so fucking tired of the duplicity and nonsense that we're
Speaker 1: having to deal with when every single person is just
Speaker 1: trying to fucking live. But you know this, They're they're
Speaker 1: not don't this. I think this decision is probably a
Speaker 1: month away from actually becoming public. So yeah, I recently
Speaker 1: heard someone talk about how hope is underrated and an
Speaker 1: important thing. I think it can also be a dangerous
Speaker 1: thing if it's fueled by just being disconnected from the
Speaker 1: realities of what people are living through around you and
Speaker 1: what your day to day life is actually you know,
Speaker 1: being funded at the expense of If you're not in
Speaker 1: touch reality, then hope is actually bullshit and very dangerous.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, when we're and when we're taping this,
Speaker 1: I think there's no information about how the draft got
Speaker 1: out or who leaked it, And there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: claims about it being one side or the other side
Speaker 1: trying to do something, but either way, like it just
Speaker 1: mainly seems designed to mess with all of us, Like
Speaker 1: it's trying to put some kind of German people's heads,
Speaker 1: like if you do the right post or sign, you'll
Speaker 1: you'll change Amy Coney Barrett's heart, and like no, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not part of your purview. Just like take
Speaker 1: care of yourself and and do what Miles was describing,
Speaker 1: especially with like you know, finding people around you who
Speaker 1: are working on the right thing, right, connect to other
Speaker 1: people who give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, and be amazed
Speaker 1: at what can happen when you find a bunch of
Speaker 1: people who have a you know, a good spirit and
Speaker 1: want to look like want to do something good. I
Speaker 1: think that's the most hopeful thing is to identify those
Speaker 1: people be there for people because this is a very
Speaker 1: difficult moment to be there for people and just you know,
Speaker 1: support each other in the moment, because yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is this is a really grim moment. And to
Speaker 1: your point, like I don't know who leaked it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a the d n c S
Speaker 1: type thing where they're like, oh man, they fuck it,
Speaker 1: they need to this is gonna help. They need to
Speaker 1: know about this, you know type ship, which feels very cynical,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know. The way they're talking
Speaker 1: about it feels like they knew this, how was gonna happen,
Speaker 1: Like maybe this will fucking help out the prol numbers,
Speaker 1: which is so fucked up or whatever. And then on that,
Speaker 1: which is really interesting, I do want to touch on
Speaker 1: how the conservative media was touching on it. They were
Speaker 1: so fucking enraged that it was leasal yeah, who knew,
Speaker 1: who knew? Because their little fascist gender revealed didn't happen
Speaker 1: the way they wanted it to. Because I'm sure they
Speaker 1: wanted that pins and needles moment with people on the
Speaker 1: steps of the Capitol, and then they bring the ball
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, we fucking rolled back time, right.
Speaker 1: But on Fox of people like Ari Fleischer, who was
Speaker 1: saying ship like this is I'm just gonna I I honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play these words because this I think
Speaker 1: this is a little bit instructive into how Fox News
Speaker 1: and conservative media is also trying to get their viewers
Speaker 1: in line with what's happened. Because let's keep in mind
Speaker 1: only thirty percent of Americans that said they wanted Row overturned. Um,
Speaker 1: what really troubles me not about the ruling itself. If
Speaker 1: that's the ruling itself, I accept in respect that ruling.
Speaker 1: But the lad has a man. Make no mistaken, this
Speaker 1: is an insurrection against the Supreme Court. I've already seen
Speaker 1: people on the left celebrating this leaker, calling him brave,
Speaker 1: trying to throw a hail Mary to stop the ruling
Speaker 1: from being issued. Who at the Supreme Court will trust
Speaker 1: each other now if they know that their drafts are
Speaker 1: going to be leaked just like everything else in Washington.
Speaker 1: Who think who gives couldn't stop himself from cragging a
Speaker 1: smile wing. If that's the ruling, I respect, and this
Speaker 1: is Mike Hook could be also going along with the
Speaker 1: same trope one step further. This is an insurrection not
Speaker 1: by some guy from some state who got hot under
Speaker 1: the collar and went to d C and got overheated
Speaker 1: at a rally. This is insurrection by a person who
Speaker 1: is paid for but the taxpayers, and who has a
Speaker 1: duty under his particular job and employment to keep his
Speaker 1: mouth shut. And Okay, so you know, the outrage machine
Speaker 1: is fired up because if you no one's talking about
Speaker 1: the substance of the decision, well, the decision I accepted, well, right,
Speaker 1: because to go there, I don't think they don't want
Speaker 1: their viewers to begin a thought experiment about what their
Speaker 1: own views are on abortion, because they're like, you're you here,
Speaker 1: you're on the same team. Now. The way to think
Speaker 1: about this is not all the reproductive rights that are
Speaker 1: being rolled back and eventually people who just want to have,
Speaker 1: you know, or any form of birth control. It's about
Speaker 1: they did an insurrection to the Supreme Court, and that
Speaker 1: ship is so fucking weak. I'm like, I'm just like, bro,
Speaker 1: this is I'll swinging that's some bullshit over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's there. They were just waiting for the right
Speaker 1: moment to do the mirroring thing they do where they
Speaker 1: take the words that is being used to describe what
Speaker 1: they're actually doing and apply it to something that is
Speaker 1: actually like a good thing to just kind of make
Speaker 1: us you know, it's the Yeah, but at the nuances
Speaker 1: too much for the Fox viewer. I know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but like it's not like it's easy to be like
Speaker 1: there's a freaking invasion of immigrants and then show people
Speaker 1: at the board that's someone document there's no law, like
Speaker 1: even if the you know, uh, Chief Justice Roberts, like
Speaker 1: there's gonna be investigation. They said, unless there's real hacking
Speaker 1: or criminal activity there, you can't arrest anybody. But it's
Speaker 1: way worse that this person has a job and did
Speaker 1: bad job than somebody got a little hot under collar
Speaker 1: and tried to overthrow the government with guns. Yeah, beat
Speaker 1: the ship. I have a Capitol police officer with a
Speaker 1: flag pole. I don't know, but that's like the thing
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I am dismissive of Fox News
Speaker 1: and like Fox News viewers as you know that this
Speaker 1: is dumb that, like they're doubling their mirroring, Like that
Speaker 1: ship is very effective, like them just being like this
Speaker 1: now we say insurrection, and like they are learning, like
Speaker 1: they pull the ship from Putin it is how to
Speaker 1: lie on the internet, and they are good at it.
Speaker 1: And it's like there's not a counterpoint on the side
Speaker 1: of good and they're just beating the ship out of
Speaker 1: the truth constantly on a day to day basis, and
Speaker 1: they're very good at it. And like I feel like
Speaker 1: the talking point of like look at these idiots is
Speaker 1: probably dangerous at this point because they're winning. They're winning,
Speaker 1: and they're they're very good. Well, I think because the
Speaker 1: reason they're winning is by its very nature are capitalistic.
Speaker 1: Society is built to just enrich the very few at
Speaker 1: the cost of the many, and because the Republicans endgame
Speaker 1: is actually more in line with that, that's why they're
Speaker 1: doing a better job, is because they're not fighting the
Speaker 1: current of capitalism, like and the problem is Democrats pretend to,
Speaker 1: so they don't get anything done and there, but even
Speaker 1: though they're there, we're still playing in the same sandbox though,
Speaker 1: where being a dick head wins and where again I
Speaker 1: think it's just they're going to win if this is
Speaker 1: always going to be the venue for trying to legislate
Speaker 1: or adjudicate anything that is, you know, has a tangible
Speaker 1: effect on people's quality of life, it's just not going
Speaker 1: to work because the Democrat where they suddenly be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we've become socialists, right, Nope, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: ain't happening. That's not happening. So so how I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, I can't there's no way I
Speaker 1: can expect them to do anything that's corrective. And I
Speaker 1: can't expect Republican Republicans will keep doing because they're we're
Speaker 1: they're operating a system that actually that's it's built to
Speaker 1: do that. So yeah, that's when they're winning, because that's
Speaker 1: what the whole thing is. Yeah, yeah, this is like
Speaker 1: a the current analogy is so right on, Like this
Speaker 1: is a fifty year current that Republicans have been fomented
Speaker 1: and swimming with, especially specifically on abortion, Like they've been
Speaker 1: holding a March for Life in Washington, d C. Every year.
Speaker 1: They've been like trying to make this happen, and they
Speaker 1: like today and then eventually when this draft becomes a thing,
Speaker 1: like they got everything they've wanted for fifty years, and
Speaker 1: they're using a leaker to say we are the victims today.
Speaker 1: We we have been oppressed by this devious person who
Speaker 1: we're just going to decide is on the left, even
Speaker 1: though there's absolutely no evidence of that. Like we we
Speaker 1: have been struck a cruel blow along the lines of
Speaker 1: what's that word interaction. Let's go with that there saying great,
Speaker 1: you ruined the surprise that I took the ice cream
Speaker 1: cake out of the fridge. I can't put it back.
Speaker 1: It doesn't get right. And you put it back, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Also, they have a good beard consultant whoever
Speaker 1: is doing the beard work for them, because my cuck
Speaker 1: would be looks better with with a beard. So that's another.
Speaker 1: He looks like a dude who would lie that he's
Speaker 1: a Jedi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm a Jedi. I'm like, bro, get the
Speaker 1: funk away from me. Reached cruise is beard guy. It's powerful.
Speaker 1: Everybody telling Mike, may the Fourth be with you, throw
Speaker 1: one of those to him. That's that's today. That's right,
Speaker 1: Fourth be with you as well. Brother. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break we'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And there was a recent study published by the University
Speaker 1: of Toronto claiming that Oscar winners are more likely to
Speaker 1: live longer than their unnominated co stars. So they're unnominated. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a little more specially unnominated. And also so it's
Speaker 1: it's a little confusing because there's also there's also a
Speaker 1: version of the number set that includes people who are
Speaker 1: nominated but didn't win, and when you combine all of
Speaker 1: them together, the Oscar winners outlived them by four years.
Speaker 1: Presumably Meryl Streep will outlive my grandchildren and then should
Speaker 1: already be dead, right exactly. She watched it moves like
Speaker 1: eight times, so around five years longer than those who
Speaker 1: missed out. The study found no official reason for this,
Speaker 1: except that winners may quote follow the ideals of a
Speaker 1: prudent lifestyle or maybe game confidence that allows them to
Speaker 1: avoid some stress. I this is some amateur, fortunately, real
Speaker 1: amateur bullshit. I believe that there's no official reason. But
Speaker 1: my belief is that they follow some ideal of a
Speaker 1: prudent life and have abilities to have less stress. Okay, yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: A happy person. I So I have a theory. I
Speaker 1: think the real reason is is interesting and not They
Speaker 1: might just be happier and happiness good, you know, and
Speaker 1: they probably avoid some stresses, so I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: first of all, winning is not a product of merit
Speaker 1: or effort or skill because like one of the theories
Speaker 1: is also like the by having better like stres management techniques,
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a position to like also be
Speaker 1: an Oscar winner. Motherfucker, what studio put the film out?
Speaker 1: What's their market, that's their awards budget, that's the The
Speaker 1: win is the result of an industry conspiring to work
Speaker 1: with you to wage your money on your career and
Speaker 1: wager and then, like an Oscar win is good for
Speaker 1: your career, and when you win, you become more profitable.
Speaker 1: Like once money is wagered on your career and you win,
Speaker 1: than you are more profitable to an entire like galaxy
Speaker 1: of very successful and shrewd people who are in the
Speaker 1: business of investing in people's careers. Like each celebrity is
Speaker 1: not a like autonomous individual like the rest of us.
Speaker 1: They are the forward facing mascot of an entire small
Speaker 1: company worth of people working to try to make money
Speaker 1: off of their career. And you can squeeze more money
Speaker 1: out of a company that has won the big game
Speaker 1: at a word season. Basically, Hey, why is that one
Speaker 1: racehorse all healthy that keeps winning all the races? Because
Speaker 1: it keeps winning all the races, and they put more
Speaker 1: investing more money in that racehorse, so keep winning, breathing,
Speaker 1: and that's why the shitty horses we don't talk about anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I all this this study is extra funny on the
Speaker 1: context of most Oscar campaigns in the press, which is
Speaker 1: how much strife the actor went through, right, Like, no,
Speaker 1: it's just working out really good for them. Like I
Speaker 1: don't care that Leodoto Ardo DiCaprio was like in the
Speaker 1: woods for a month or mat a bear or something.
Speaker 1: That's that he didn't really go through that much and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fun It's okay, right, Oh wow. I
Speaker 1: mean now now I really have to think about what
Speaker 1: what's the true cost of the oscars if people are
Speaker 1: dying there only if they're living four years less? Right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's that's the other thing is like
Speaker 1: it's also terrible. You know actors who were not nominated,
Speaker 1: so presumably are they pulling from like all actors like
Speaker 1: people who are in B movies as extras, because then
Speaker 1: I fully believe the numbers that and like, that's the
Speaker 1: least surprising thing in the world that the person who
Speaker 1: was like in the spotlight of the entire industry would
Speaker 1: have have a longer lifespan. It's I just like petty
Speaker 1: pseudo science like this, you know where it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you die sooner if you lost at the Oscars. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a real investigation. But I like
Speaker 1: this idea. I like the concept or like to ruminate
Speaker 1: on it. But Dr Don htel Meyer is who the
Speaker 1: study comes from. You actually may know his work. He
Speaker 1: was the first to study the correlation between cell phone
Speaker 1: use and car crashes back in when only stockbrokers and
Speaker 1: Alicia Silverstone characters at cell phones, and he was the
Speaker 1: first to discover a huge increase in fatalities on Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday, which actually informed like public safety policies and campaigns.
Speaker 1: So part of me doesn't think that one is as special. Man.
Speaker 1: I feel like people get fucked up. You might want
Speaker 1: to be careful out there every time people get sucked
Speaker 1: up on this day, but it's hard to those are
Speaker 1: I mean the cell phone thing. Okay, so he's got
Speaker 1: he's got a got a little bit of a CD
Speaker 1: to Leo, like, yeah, I'm starting to think this guy
Speaker 1: just likes entertainment like that. I like ment, all right,
Speaker 1: is it? Like yeah? Like and how I wonder if,
Speaker 1: like how many like were him experiencing it, like he
Speaker 1: was on a cell phone and like almost crashed. Oh fuck,
Speaker 1: oh man, I can't be the but he has like
Speaker 1: this that wherewth aught to be like, I can't be
Speaker 1: the only person who just almost did that. We probably
Speaker 1: need to look at that cut to you know what
Speaker 1: cell phones might be dangerous. Another time, he got get
Speaker 1: faced at a Super Bowl party, embarrassed himself trying to
Speaker 1: go home and crashed his car into like a fucking tree,
Speaker 1: like on a fucking you know, like an abandoned road,
Speaker 1: and then came to that decision too. I think these
Speaker 1: are like these are carbon offsets for his like own
Speaker 1: life where he's just like constantly like driving through parks
Speaker 1: and like taking out people and being like huh, all right,
Speaker 1: well I gotta educate people about this. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a method researcher. I tried to embody the terrible thing
Speaker 1: that I think could happen like that at all, um
Speaker 1: strengthening my theory that it's just because the whole industry
Speaker 1: wants oscar winners to live longer so they can continue
Speaker 1: to make money off of them. While actors who want
Speaker 1: oscars live longer, writers who want oscars ended up dying
Speaker 1: sooner by about three point six years. And that that
Speaker 1: tracks because nobody gives your ship about writers and how
Speaker 1: and writers are torture, like so many tortured souls like
Speaker 1: that are like really great writers to That's yeah, I
Speaker 1: can see that. I hope it's also because the non
Speaker 1: winning screenplays, the writer was lazy, so they conserved a
Speaker 1: bunch of energy, saved a bunch of health. You know,
Speaker 1: they got eight hour sleep every night. It's great. I
Speaker 1: just like though that his whole this theory even came
Speaker 1: that he said he watched the Oscars and he said
Speaker 1: the celebrities look quote much more vivacious that the Awards
Speaker 1: shows the regular people. They weren't cocaine. Man. I just
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to this guy. I'm like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: let's come up with a study right now. Man. Hold On,
Speaker 1: He's like they're vivacious. Hold On, hold on, do you
Speaker 1: die sooner if you lose an Oscar? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's just a guy who hasn't learned that it's cool
Speaker 1: to be famous. Like, how is all this joy reaching them?
Speaker 1: How is this happening? It looks so happy. That's like
Speaker 1: a parent text that you said, Like, you know, a
Speaker 1: celebrity's mom is like, hey, great job on the red carpet.
Speaker 1: You look so happy. You look so happy. It makes
Speaker 1: me happy. It feeds my heart. And that's all I wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, I told you that I just want you
Speaker 1: to be happy. Honey. M hm. So you brought that
Speaker 1: what's her name with you? I wasn't doing anything, but
Speaker 1: she looked happy too, So that's a little to do that. Mom,
Speaker 1: her name's Meryl, Meryl Street. Hapen over this pretty often.
Speaker 1: You told me you like the Iron Lady a lot
Speaker 1: to like you really liked it. She is the mother
Speaker 1: of your grandchildren. Mom, Jesus, I guess I still haven't
Speaker 1: seen a attorney test. All right, alex As always truly
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you. Um, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: To follow you? All that good stuff? Not that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you guys as always for having me and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Alex s Medy on Twitter and Alex Medy dot com.
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Speaker 1: Thank you and thanks for being on it, both of
Speaker 1: you so much. What are you talking about? Refrigeration? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did refrigeration. Yeah, that's why anyway, if you that's
Speaker 1: what's great about your show is it starts on the
Speaker 1: topic like that, and even at then I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of this ship that we're just
Speaker 1: talking about about refrigeration. Thank you so much. And then
Speaker 1: suddenly just refrigeration facts start being sprinkled into daily Zeitgeist
Speaker 1: over the next week. Yeah, exactly this. Yeah, alright, I
Speaker 1: was complete, You know how, I spent like a lot
Speaker 1: of time talking about how the US sewage system is
Speaker 1: a great metaphor for the electoral politics. About a year ago,
Speaker 1: I did a sewage system secretly incredibly fascinating and it
Speaker 1: was very fascinating fat bergs. I was not ready for
Speaker 1: the fat bergs of icebergs. God, that's gross. I do.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of me being a puppet master
Speaker 1: some of the time. That's really fun. Like just once
Speaker 1: in a while, is there a tweet or some of
Speaker 1: the work of social media you've been enjoying, yea saw.
Speaker 1: This is from It's at Chris Trauma is the name.
Speaker 1: It's a funny account, Chris Trauma. The tweet was imagine
Speaker 1: getting fitted for a tucks and the guy makes measurements
Speaker 1: with a fruit by the foot and neither of you
Speaker 1: say a word about it the whole time. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting married later this year. They had like my
Speaker 1: first tailor experiences, and yeah, I want that to be
Speaker 1: what happened to me. You're still shopping around for tailors
Speaker 1: until you find one who's gonna do it right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of them tried to use gushers. They're not really
Speaker 1: good as a unit of measurement. Yeah, to find a
Speaker 1: bunch of fruit roll ups. Yeah, I just liked It's like,
Speaker 1: uh huh, and he's like an Obviously, I'm a professional,
Speaker 1: so I do leave the paper on so it doesn't
Speaker 1: damage your current garments. When I'm doing I measuing which
Speaker 1: my free by the food and fruit by the foot.
Speaker 1: Take Miles, where can people find you with a tweet?
Speaker 1: You've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray. If
Speaker 1: you like four twenty Day Fiance, then check that out.
Speaker 1: That's not a good way to promote that, but check
Speaker 1: out that other podcast I do call also the Basketball
Speaker 1: Show as usual Miles and Jack got Mad Boost. These
Speaker 1: are NBA show where it's just great. We're in the
Speaker 1: middle of the playoffs. We're talking that talk talking to
Speaker 1: maybe tune in and know a lot of Milwaukee Bucks
Speaker 1: fans like, when's the honest love it's coming. Okay, it
Speaker 1: is imminent. Yes, we have to take a breath in.
Speaker 1: We talk about our beloved basketball players. Some tweets that
Speaker 1: I like. First one is from Sam Sanders that Sam
Speaker 1: Sanders tweeted one thing I'll say about political They don't
Speaker 1: hold vital reporting hostage until a book release, which yeah,
Speaker 1: for good or bad that is true, and then says
Speaker 1: la at cessy Cuba kh I b A tweeted not
Speaker 1: my mom telling me she talked she still talked to
Speaker 1: my ex because I still talked to her ex man
Speaker 1: my dad ship. Wow, I hope that's like that. In fact,
Speaker 1: that's such a terribly unhealthy relationship with your mother. Like,
Speaker 1: oh parts, If that is true, I'm like, but hey,
Speaker 1: we love a joke. I feel like I just watched
Speaker 1: like a ten part talking about her eight and my
Speaker 1: friend is catching up. What did he do? Um, let's
Speaker 1: see tweets I've been enjoying. I liked just a lot
Speaker 1: of the tweets about about about the experience of being
Speaker 1: on Twitter while the met Gala was happening and the
Speaker 1: overturning of Row was being announced. I like Jamie Love
Speaker 1: just says, tweet what if we kissed? While Elon Musk
Speaker 1: monetized our viral tweets about Row being overturned, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I like oh the logan Trent Crack writer tweeted, y'all
Speaker 1: let them scapegoat Muslims with that Sharia law bullshit while
Speaker 1: they stockpiled as much Christian fascism as they could fill
Speaker 1: their cards. With just good, good perspective. Um. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can
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Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to
Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
Speaker 1: well as a song that we think it might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what something do we think people might enjoy? You? Oh man?
Speaker 1: This is a track from like a seventies sixties Brazilian
Speaker 1: artist named blunder Leia who was like a TV presenter
Speaker 1: but also like a musician. And this track Lindo is
Speaker 1: just it's fun, it's sexy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's like got this like old like seventies like
Speaker 1: sort of poppy soul vibe, like on the brink of disco.
Speaker 1: But it's just I just love the instrumentation on it,
Speaker 1: and it's real instruments. I find myself like every now
Speaker 1: and then, like I want to hear people play that
Speaker 1: on their instruments and make music rather than sampling and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So this is a great track. So
Speaker 1: this is Lindo by under Lea. Al Right, well, The
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